3097: Looking For a Ginni Thomas

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We did get some new ones.

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Scissa and Sinners. I'm going to see Centers for a
third time this coming week in the seventy millimeter and

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I'm so excited to watch it after hearing all the commentary.
Thanks for all the last and insight throughout the year
and a half of me listening.

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Thank you, ah, thank you.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
I'm glad and a lot of people going to see
it three and four times. I'm jealous of the people
to get to see him. I'm like them big old
screens is like in New Yorker, LA. I would love
to see that version of it, you know what I'm saying,
cause we do get like the IMAX, but it's I
don't think it's the same as that because it's like
a big, huge screen. I like from the pictures I
see online.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I mean, I understand that there's only a handful of
those theaters in the United States period, Okay, And I
don't think that we have that option close to us, Okay,
So I don't, you know, I don't know if it's
something we can do like locally. I'm not even sure
where the closest one to us would be. So yeah,

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I think I'm just typing in seventy milimeter Imax and
near me and I don't even there's thirty thirty in
the world that I equiped to play seventy milimeter format.

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Oh, so I don't think.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
I don't think Chan is one of the locations.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, I don't think so for US, I don't know
if there's a how many there are. There's a big
ass screen in IMAX for Discovery Place, but that's not the.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Same in my opinion, No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
So yeah, yeah, only eight US theaters showing IMAX centers
in seventy millimeter form. Wow, I'm looking for the eight
that locations. So maybe y'all can go because we can't.
Let's see, we got Arizona Harkins, Arizona Mills eighteen and
Imax California Rego Irvine Spectrum, Universal Cinema amc IS City

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Walk in Hollywood and AMC Metron sixteen in front San Francisco.
So that's Irvine, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Indianapolis, Indiana,
New York City, and Texas. So yeah, okay, all right,
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Damn crying emoji right, we had to reset the number.

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Speaker 2 (10:11):
Thirty ninety four, y'all had something to say, y'all did
eight comments. Appia says, I liked what Karen said about feminism.
I'm a feminist and define it as seeing women as
humans who have all the same rights and choices as men.
If someone asked me if I'm a feminist, I would
say yes, but maybe try to soften it, like I'm
a sensible and realistic feminist, you know, so obviously I

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also have some issues.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
To commit to it completely. It's interesting to think about it.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
You either embrace it in this totality or you don't
and people don't want to see it. That couldn't dry.
I feel the same way about that, and I feel
the same way about being a democrat. You either embrace
it wholeheartedly for good, bad or indifferent or you don't like.
It's to the point where you can't straddle that line.
And a lot of people like to straddle that line
for to make themselves feel good and to make them

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feel special and unique. Like I'm not picking a side
beaches on the two sides.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Left right.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
About the Neurology Congress, I think you would find it
interesting at least some parts, stuff like why migrains are
more common in women, and what the minstrel cycle had
to do with it, if my grains maybe prevent dementia,
how mayasthenia gravis is associated with the thigh meusk gland tumors,
and why this could be how the future treatment of

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mispatient could look like?

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Does this sound boring? Maybe I don't know anymore, but
I enjoyed it. Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's really what you enjoyed it too.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Ron and Raphael says, first of all, I love to
give a shout out to the best podcasts in the world.
Of course, of the blackout tips for the newbies in
the house, a shout out to Dre for this fire
voicemail after karen solid breakdown, Look what popped into my
news feed a story about a group of former GOP
and Libertarians, including Trump posters, trying to create a new
third party that will target Michigan in mainly purple districts

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in twenty twenty six to ensure that no party is
able to win two hundred and twenty two seats to
have a ruly majority in the House, you will have
to negotiate with them despite holding the smaller number of
seats if successful.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
I was trying to post an.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Article from my being news feed here, but it wasn't
work for some reason. It was originally from the Washington Post.
On paper, the group sounds good, targeting only independence and
young people. But the more I read, I saw red
flags and thought about Drew Yang's four Party from four
to five years ago. One thing they all do attack
Democrats as if they were the same as the.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
GOLP Right, and you're wasting time.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Eve, he says.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
So I finally saw Centers this past weekend and it
was brilliant. I was surprised that on the fourth week
it's been out in the theaters and the theater is
still fully fairly full. It was a mostly white crowd,
but then again, I live in the mostly white area.
One couple walked out when it got to the gory stuff.
Maybe no one told them it was a horror movie.
I love seeing although that beautiful blackness, and Michael B.

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Jordan was acting his ass off. My favorite part was
when those clans members got lit up. I cackled like
while most of the audience remain silent. I don't give
a fuck. Jason Whitlock has to be a coon supreme
to think the purpose of this movie was to make
white people look bad, Like seriously, if that's what he
got from it, then I just know he lets some

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little white girl call him nigga in bed and probably
out of it too. I don't think any I don't
think anyone's sleeping with Jason Whitlock right now. I think
that's the problem. He kind of hates himself and that
kind of energy doesn't bode well for the latest. And
I don't think and like, especially when your demo is
like selling racism to races.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
What self respecting white I mean self respecting.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
But what white lady is gonna It's like, I agree
with everything you say about the blacks, but also I
love you.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
That doesn't make sense, but maybe you.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Know I'm tripping. There's a Jenny Thomas out there for everyone.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Okay, if you go on only Coons dot Com, you
two can find love. Okay, there's a needle in a
haystay out there for you. I also think if this
movie doesn't get an Oscar, all the Oscar nominations it deserves,
it will be because it came out so early in
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
People have short term memories. We don't tell BOSSI that.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Okay, it's gonna be a conspiracy to destroy the Black Man.
Y'all take that up with her.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Shoe Boody says.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
The discourse on room temperature, water and ice mirrored a
thing that happened to me just this week. I went
out for a ladies brunch to celebrate my friend getting married.
Was a boogie place that was byob They only had
some of the wires from a local wanterery. As I
sat down and they poured water from me with no ice,
I'd ask for some ice if the champagne bucket next
to the table so I could chill the rose I brought,

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and they said, we don't have ice right now. The
ice machine broke. I couldn't even hold back to comment,
and that came out. Y'all might want to stop at
wild Wah or something, because no one wants warm water,
let alone warm bubbly.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Right.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, at least the ice machine was broke though.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Right, which which is more valid?

Speaker 5 (15:02):
These people the ice machine working, they just don't, you know,
bring it out because and the thing is, I know
there's some purists that like, I like my you know,
my water to be you know, this woman's there, great,
but the average person does not want that warm ass shit.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I just don't like when they try to gaslight me
when I'm like, no, I would like some ice, and
they look at me like, wow, what a crazy request.
I'm like, nigga, it is ninety degrees right if you
don't bring the ice and stop acting like I'm tripping.
Shannon says, Hey, Rod and Karen, I'm perpetually behind. So
I'm listening to your center's episode. I have a couple
of things I want to bring up. One I don't
know if you've seen that Sterling k Brown Ma anymore.

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Chris Sullivan from This is Us have a new podcast,
rewatching the show. I listen every week and it's been
really interesting to listen to their insight. Their feedback section
is also really touching. I'm not rewatching the show, but
sometimes we visit certain scenes they discuss. Uh, yeah, that's cool.
I still never finish that show. I need to go
back one day and remember where I stopped, because I

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can't remember where I stopped. But you know, I did
enjoy recapping it with BOSSI two. Regarding the depiction of
black Agent Solidarity and Senator Sentaers, I have listened to
the whole feedback show. I haven't listened to the whole
feedback show, so skip if I'm redundant. But I just
want to say that Ryan Coogler has specific specifically said
he did not intend for that scene to be interpreted

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in some sort of commentary on black slash non black POC,
and that he was disappointed people had that interpretation.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Also, the actress asked.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Him to put the flashback to her daughter to make
that clear, and people still took the most negative stance
on this. I have a lot of centers, feels, and thoughts,
but I will not innundate you with them because I
have my own podcasts. Love you both and Allegra and
I got our posters. Thank you Shanna, I'm glad you
got them. And here's what I'll say, Man, I think

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a lot of real life stuff is impacting people's interpretation
of art. I think that's just part of life. It's
out of the creators control at some point. I know
a lot of people will say this sentiment, and I
don't necessarily agree with it, but they'll say something to
the effect of, like, you know, once you come out
with the art, like it's not like it's whatever people

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think it is, is what the right answer is.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I don't agree with that.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I think there can be there can be a discussion
about unintended consequences of art and all that stuff, but
I don't think every interpretation of art is as valid
as what picking up the pieces that are creator laid down.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Now, maybe the creator laid them down sloply, maybe it
didn't work right.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
We can have that discussion, but intent does matter when
it comes to art, and so no just having your
own opinion or your own opinions that are informed by
something else and you're working backwards. I don't think it's valid.
And I think a lot of people, especially right now,
especially in the wake of like Kendrick Lamar in the
wake of Trump, they have been dealing with trying to

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find a way to quartering off black art into this
space where it is at once consumed only by black people,
understood only by black people, and affecting only black people.
And that is an impossibility that life has never existed

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that way. But online you can kind of get into
these hyper like cordinged off areas of arguing with people,
and a lot of content is about that. It's like
black people arguing with age people, aging people arguing with
Latino people. You know, I saw Latin Like, I don't
know how many people this was. I just saw one
video of one Latino guy going this ripped off of

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dust till dawn or something like that, and where was
the Latino representation? And that person may have been the
only person that made that point, They may have been
the first person that made that point.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
I don't know. The point is they were getting an an.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Outside portion of the conversation thrown their way, and that
is something we can't separate. Like the online amount of
attention people are being awarded for some of these takes
and some of these discussions is making it seem like
these discussions are bigger than they are I would gather
that the vast majority of people that saw that movie

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did not see grace in the light of this is
a commentary of Asian people trying to join whiteness. But
if that's what they took for it from it, and
Ryan Coogler is like, I did not intend that, and
that was not a commentary. And this is like he
has been so forthright in his interviews. He's been not
afraid of any questions. I don't think he's the type

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to put the art in there and then lie to
the audience and lie to the interviewer.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
And be like, Ahaha, I got one over.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
So people just and so this is the last thing
I'll say and then carry you got it. People are
really in a bad way with not wanting to accept
new information that goes against what they have decided. And
I am so scared for us as a world because

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of that, Because conspiracy and obtuseness and being very like
rigid is a real big gateway for misinformation, and so
many people are being used to spread misinformation. So many

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people are looking for misinformation because it aligns with their biases,
and art is up for interpretation. I get that, But
when the guy is telling you that's not what I made,
that's not what I intended, that's not what the commentary is.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
And you're like, fuck that.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I've been arguing with Asian people online, or I've been
arguing with what you know. That's something that is scary
about that, because you would think if you truly appreciated
and loved and respected black art and the people that
made it, you go, okay, okay, so that's what you meant.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I had thought it might have been something else, but
I see what you're saying. That should be easy to do,
and people won't do it. They're like, no, my interpretation
is the only real truth. And if you don't share
this truth, then you're somehow not in on it even
if you made it.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
That's scary.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
And so for me, it's one of those things where,
like you say, when you ask the artists and the
artist is truthful and the artist gives you their answer,
there's no law that says you got to agree with them.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
There's no law that says that what they said.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Made you feel a certain way and you either accept
it that you don't like. I get that part, but
my thing is if the artist says it, you have
to believe them.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
You can still feel however you want to feel.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
But my problem is when you dismissed what the artist said,
like the artist didn't.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Say it, like you created it and it came from you,
and it didn't.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
And it's almost like my opinions and how I feel
and my facts are greater than the art itself, the
art that I did not create. I didn't spay any
time or effort of anything in it. I'm just a
consumer of this. And also I realized, and maybe this
is just me on the outside looking in, most people
that are not creatives have these very strong feelings like
that because they're not creative, so they really don't understand

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what really goes on with it.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I don't think it's they're not creatives. I think a
lot of creatives do it too, because what they are
creating is.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Their own content. We're all creating content.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Now from that perspective, yes, when I'm doing a podcast,
you're creating content. When you're like when you're doing TikTok,
you're creating content. And so I don't think it's a
they're not creatives. I think many of them are, some
of them being creatives that are even trying to get

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into the same lane as these guys, right, and they're like, no,
let me tell you what it really means, because this
is you know, maybe that's how you would have did it,
but that they're telling you, like, that's not what I did.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
And I understand that.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
I think when I mean creatives, they're not like in
the industry, you know what I'm saying, Like like in
the industry itself, I do understand what you're saying. Creative
creates something people create something off this creative for their
own content.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
You know what I'm saying. Like Boss is a poet.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
She was of the idea that you know, the Asian
character it meant something about whiteness. And so no, she
is a creative. She is she's written you know, books,
she's TV shows.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
You know what I'm saying, So like, go ahead, no,
gohad and I and I guess I'm thinking for like
the average person online. But yes, those feelings can impact
a lot of people across the board, and they and
a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Of people, which I get it. They feel like if I.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Didn't create it, And you do have the right to
feel however you want to feel about something that the
artists created.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
But I do agree with you.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
If the artist says that's not my intent, I want
to take that as a fact.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I don't want to dismiss the artist.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, I just I just think once people kind of
get into the we're just in a bad way, that's all.
Like people are in a bad way now because it
has we are not at a place where we're trustful
of the intent of anyone, and we're not at a
place and we're at a place where when it's inconvenient,
we will supersede reality with what we decided it is right.

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And so a lot of that is affected by the
discussions that we see take place online.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Meaning if I watch.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Twenty seven white people dance and do TikTok dances to
that part of Kendrick where it says forty acres and
a mule, they and knowing they don't know what the
fuck he's talking about, that they that that's a very
inappropriate thing for them to be dancing to. If I
watch that on because my TikTok algorithm has served me

(24:58):
that twenty seven times, I'm I'm going to walk out
of that thinking this is what white people are doing.
They don't understand Kendrick they don't understand his art. We
must protect the art. We must get our opinions out
there and let them know this is wrong and we
need to shut that down. That is a real experience
someone is having, and they're creating tiktoks.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
And going back and forth for that right. Yes, so.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Me another person on TikTok who doesn't get into that cycle,
who never sees that stuff, I have a completely different
reality in that person. They are walking around like, we
must stop the consuming and the misunderstanding of black art,
where I'm like, I don't really see how much of

(25:43):
that is happening. But also I don't care how much
of that is happening because I've made a conscientious decision
to try to decolonize my mind from worrying about whiteness
and their interpretation and their you know, like when we
did our Centers thing, it wasn't to just explain it
to white people, you know, like we just had a

(26:06):
conversation with our friends and you know, fellow podcasters. I
love that kind of shit, you know, I don't.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I don't know what we do.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
But anyway, my point being, like I think the Asian
model minority and slash racism between Asian and Black people.
I think that affected how people looked at that character,
regardless of what Ryan Coogler intended. Agree, because they can't

(26:38):
separate it from life. They're not going to walk into
the art with a vacuum. They're walking with it and intending,
you know, with their own lives, and some places that
helps the art, and in some places it may hurt
the art. And so to hear you know, Shanna say,
Ryan Coogler addressed this and said, this is not what
I meant, which is what I was feeling when I

(26:59):
was on the show.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
I feel bad for Ryan Coogler.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I know people will think they're protecting him, but I
actually feel bad for him because I'm like, fuck, man,
Like life fucked up your art. Your art was fine,
you made a statement. It was what you intended. Not
no one, but enough people aren't. Some people are gonna
walk out like, I don't give a fuck what you say.
It was this she went to join whiteness or whatever,
you know. Ms Barr says, hello, I'm gonna think, oh, wait,

(27:26):
do we do this?

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
No, no, no, I'm on a third rewatch of centers
and have no hesitation to pay.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Good money to see it the fourth time.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Every time that I seid, there's something new that I noticed,
as the movie has easter eggs like a Marvel movie.
When I went to the theater on Sunday, it was
only like five or six folks there, mainly because it
was Mother's Day and I went early at eleven am.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Love in early Maryland showing, early morning showing.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
But I did have the older black couple who felt
the need to provide commentary on everything. I love us,
but I can't stand us at times. If it was
their first time watching the movie, I'll allow it AnyWho.
I will give it a couple of weeks and then
see it again in the theater. Ryko will get my
hard earned moneies. Neb says, I caved and bought a
ticket to see Buddy God. My dad convinced me. It's
more expensive than most tiny shows I like, but much

(28:10):
cheaper than Beyonce Kendricks. I'll figure why not. He's been
actively touring in small theaters for decades. A lot of
old white men like my dad love him because all
the classic rock musicians cite Buddy God's a major influence
and collaborator, and he tours extremely impressively consistently. I'm a
big music fan, and though I don't know blues well yet,
I find it extremely impressed impressive that he's kept it

(28:31):
up so well for so long.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Few artists have done the same.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Blues was a huge influence on metal too, which I'm
a big fan of.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
So I'm hyped to see what started it all.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
As my dad says, By the way, I was finally
able to convince my dad to see Sinners and it
made him cry too.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Shout out to you Nebs and your dad, and.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, I love when movies have this effect where like
it's making people do stuff like delve into the blues.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
That's that's that's how you know you have a cultural impact. Uh,
let's see YouTube, y'all had something to say three comments
Every show is great, says seventy six, and or for
every show is great, but woo the close of this
show talking about feminism and the Democratic Party. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

(29:17):
all of it. Yes, Ramsey Pah done says, playing catch
up with the episodes, I enjoy listening to feedback show
five stars at Mark one fifty one to one fifty seven.
Karen B knowing I'm not sure which what we were
saying at that time. Oh it must have been a
feminism thing, right, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, all right, thank you.

(29:37):
Simla O two says yes to everything said about mister Morale.
I had to do my own self reflection when I
first heard it hit me in a way that's too
long to type here, but I'm glad to hear.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Others heard what I heard and appreciated it. Yeah. Man,
I love that album. It's just such a great album.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
And I you know, people don't get it, Dow don't
get it. That's fine, but you know, I still remember
getting to the end of the Day album and it
literally made me cry the first time I heard it,
because I was just like, oh my God. And I
maybe in my own ways in life, I have been
feeling certain something like, certain similar issues and certain similar feelings.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
And that's the power of art.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
The way that he was able to articulate that, but
also just not really about me, but about him as
an artist. It felt good to watch someone let go
of their like persecution and guilt complex and the responsibility
that they felt for the culture that no one person
can take on for everybody, and the guilt and the

(30:38):
survivors guilt that he felt from where he came from
the industry. He's in the people that didn't make it.
I mean, that brother has been through a lot. He's
lost a lot of people. And when you put yourself
up there on that cross and choose to take on
the sins of the world metaphorically, that's a lot to

(31:00):
try to take on for everybody, and to be like
I'm the one who's gonna guide us out of this
is a lot. And it felt like he stopped trying
to be that and he but he was okay with it,
like he wasn't quitting, like I give up on y'all.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Y'all are terrible people.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
It was more like a I can let this go
because it was never meant for me to be there.
And I'm sorry if you're a person that did feel
like my savior complex and everything was like prophecy and
I was the God that's gonna change everything for everybody,
I'm sorry if that's how you feel. I have to
choose me and my family and my health and what

(31:38):
makes me mentally stable.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I need to do those things.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Not just sit around trying to scold everybody else into
doing what I think they should do. And I thought
that was really fucking dope. But yeah, I love that.
What a great album. The poe do you have something
to say? Yes or no?

Speaker 1 (31:57):
I do always got something to say?

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Fifty four of meer centing the people have something to say,
forty six percent of people did not have something to say.
I guess we got to the bottom of that one
for once and for all.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
We love to see it.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Let's play a beat and then we'll come right back
with some more of these feedbacks.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
That was beyond by Infrared Crypto buying.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Door Dash on Credit Episode thirty ninety five was the
title of this one. My mom was on here for
Mother's Day or annual tradition. We enjoyed it as always.
Ronald Rafael says, always great to hear Roj's mama, also
giving a shout out to all the moms who listened
to are part of the Black Altips nation.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Y'all the best mama's out there.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
As for door Dash on Credit, I gotta remember to
download the app first.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
They might get me.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
If I see an Ethiopian sene of Galese port hardcourt
or Ghanaian fried fish or snail, not that fancy es cargo.
If you know, you know amongst others there, but this
og two used to paying on delivery, so I'm the
wrong target. Sh I could sell credit to door dash.
Let me consult my inner baby. Billy Sean says, have

(33:35):
you ever tried Chinese sea snails? There are a couple
of different versions, but I think this is the most common,
is delished. Someone gotta tell those French that the Lebert
butter is not seasoning. Uh now I have to search
out a restaurant to sell that sells Ghanaian Ghanaian Fried Snell,

(33:58):
while waiting for Japan to release center Opire, says, I
noticed that keeping a house for long is seen as
something negative in the US. Can someone explain, Yeah, I
can explain, it's actually not seen as negative in the US.
It's actually like super dope. If people can own a house,
Like if they can buy have a house long enough

(34:18):
to own it, that's actually like a.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Goal of a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
It's a gold star to own some property in America.
It's like a big deal and it's very hard to deal.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I don't know where you're getting that information from. Maybe
it's just like some really super rich, fancy people or something,
but just normal people holding on a house for as
long as you can is like that. That's a badge,
vin her if you can pull that bitch off. These
mortgages be like forty to fifty years sometimes yep.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
And then on top of that, once you quote unquote
own it. What causes people to lose their homes as
the property taxes that you have to pay, because if
you don't pay it, you actually still lose the home.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
The German dream is to buy a house paid off
and living in rent free as long as you live. Yeah,
that's the that's the American dream too, that's literally the
American dream.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
I'm living this dream. We bought it. Oh so this
was always a humble brag, got it.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
We bought a house in two thousand and nine, paid
it off and do not intend to sell it ever,
especially because the house is on the street almost tripled
in prices at that time.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, this is this is the same in America. We're
doing renovations and changes to it. The location is ideal.
It's not very big, but okay, three bathrooms, two bathrooms.
We paid no mortgage of property taxes are very low
compared to America, like two thousand a year normal for Germany.
Property taxes are similarly low everywhere. To clear it up,
if we ever considered to buy another house, it would
be on the same street. We love the location. All right, Well,

(35:33):
that feels random. I don't know what we said to
sparked that, but congratulations on having.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
A nice house.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Sean says in terms of those vulture capitalists, they should
be charged with theft for rating pension funds. If the
law was appropriately applied in some high profile vulture capitalists
like maybe Romney was prosecuted for the criminal theft of
millions of dollars is sent to gimpot for their slimy
criminal behavior, then you may see an end to this
violent criminal activity that accounts for the second largest percentage

(36:02):
of theft in the US behind Wage's depth. The problem
is that the right like to defund law enforcing and
the irs just to know so that they won't go after
the white collar criminals. Also, I was wondering when was
the last time Republican president had been put in the
White House and the US hasn't ended up in a recession.
Makes you wonder if there are next to their name
stands for recession, repression, or simply reprehensible pieces of sheet.

(36:23):
I'm not, but I'm agnostic on the issue. Apologies before
my other comments, I should have mentioned that it was
lovely hearing your mother and I hope she had the
best Mother's Day ever.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Thank you and you should appreciate it. You know she
listened to the show.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Ibba says the Poe. I haven't used Klana or door
Dash ever. Separately, John Baby John says a few years back,
I held an appointment as a vice president at a
major public university in Texas. At the time, Tony Busby
was a member of the board of regions for that university.
One day I bumped into a colleague at the university
who was friends with Tony and have recently attended a

(36:56):
costume party Tony hosted at his mansion in Houston. Tony Buzzby,
he is the lawyer that was suing Jay Z. He's
the lawyer that went after Deshaun Watson successfully.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
He's a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I think that's representing the accuser of Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
So that's Tony Buzzy.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I should note the theme of the party was eighties
hip hop, and my colleague was a well.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Meaning white dude in his late fifties.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Anyway, in addition to telling me about the party, my
colleague was eager to show pictures of what he and
his wife were.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
At the party.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
After seeing photos, I'll just say it was a classic
effing with black people experience for me.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
But here's a kicker.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
The guy Tony paid the performer the party was a
dog father himself. Calvin bradis junior that Snoop Dogg. So
when I heard Snoop was performing for Trump, I was
not surprised. Evie, he says, it's always nice when Mom
Morrow's on the show. I'm not sure if there's a
punishment suitable enough for Diddy. That man deserves to be
locked up for a thousand lifetimes. I think he's probably
responsible for a lot more than he's on trial for.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Comments on YouTube, treaty well says, or treated well says
I didn't know what these folks are talking about. That
intro is fire reminds me of the intro to the
Spider Verse. And Happy Mother's Day, Mamamorrow, Thank you treated well,
Fire stars for everyone. Mama Morrow in the building, says
Ramsey pH Done. Lennard brother says, happy Blooded Mother's Day,

(38:18):
the Mama Prime and all the moms in the Black
Houtis family. Jason Jasper says, man, if Diddy survives this,
Russell Simmons will be the only human being on the
planet he could kick it with. I mean at the
OJ died, I'll be sure needs to change the name
of that book that I'll be back.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
I'm ready for the light skinned again.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
He said, y'all, don't call me the educated brother from
the bank too many times.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
That's the other guy.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
He's about to take down Sean Nino Cones and I
have my popcorn ready.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
He was like, y'all was talking shit.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Told me to sit my five dollar ass down before
I make change, But these changes about to be dollar
bills now.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I then waiting for someone to take AI and swap
the faces in that courtroom scene with Diddy as Nino
Brown and I'll be sure as Christopher Williams Miss Howkin.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah, I'm waiting on that.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Jason also says, oh, and your mom's saying mustard and
gordo sounded like salad dress. It took me out. Happy
belated Mother's Day. Yeah, that was very funny.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
The poule was have you ever used clarner for door Dash.
Ninety one percent have not, but eight percent.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Half I didn't even know it was an option.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Well, I said it on the show.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
That's the thing, and I use door Dash, so I
have seen it as an option. I've seen it as
an option on my credit card statement everything like do
you want to clarner this YMCA membership?

Speaker 4 (39:39):
I'm like, no, no, I just want to pay it.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I'd rather not break it into five interest laden payments.
I'd just rather pay pay the fee down.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Oh oh, I know what that is. More more I
think about it.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
Yes, every time I go even on Amazon, anytime you
go buy something now, it'll asks you, hey, do you
want to break this down? And I'm like, I want
to pay full price? No, I don't want to break
because in my mind I was like, no, on, I
don't want to break it down plus interest, just paying
all in full?

Speaker 1 (40:06):
What is this?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, they for even for our blackout Tips PayPal subscription,
It's like, do you want to allow people to clarner this?
And I don't think I said yes. I can't remember
what I feel like. I didn't click yes because I
didn't understand what they meant. But yeah, even for that,
I could technically be like, you can corner this or whatever.
So all right, let's get to the final episode of

(40:30):
the week thirty ninety six. Maybe Tory Lanez fell on
fourteen pieces of glass with five comments on the old
website there, Iba says Donald Trump absolutely behaves like a
dictator would, and I predict the documentary in the future
called American Dictator. He is doing so much messed up
stuff that no one is surprised or outrage anymore. You
can't keep up up with the griff and he did

(40:52):
already so much of it. When I think about how
much more compliance and ethics rules I'm bowed towards an
employee of a pharmaceutical company, not exactly the guys in
the odds of many, I get it. There was a
lots of corruptions in the past that the American president
than the American president.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
We are, for example, not allowed to have medical conventions
and hotels that are too fancy or too leisure oriented
so that the physicians don't get visit the event for
the wrong reasons. And he can just accept planes as gifts. Wow, yep,
right in front of our face. Man, It just it
feels like not enough is being done about it. Not
enough outrage is happening.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
And everybody else is supposed to be ethically right, like
post follow the rules and regulations and shit, nigga, but
why should we do it? For some people? This is
why they start doing shit. They was like, the fuck
am I fault on the rules for? And this nigga's
at at the top and doing whatever he wants to.
But you're gonna be head accountable he's not.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
And I just think that a lot of it is
also like like, right now, Jack Jake Tapper is promoting
a book about how Democrats should have stopped President Joe
Biden from running for president.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
And again, it's twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Five, y'all not taking this act.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
I don't know what to tell y'all.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Even if one hundred of everything you wrote it's true
from even though it's anonymous sources all the let's say
it's true. Let's say he was a bumbling, stumbling, fucking idiot.
Let's say he was a drooling mess. What can that
do for us?

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Now? What can it do for any of us? At
this point? What can it do for us? Now?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
It's just gonna give another round of fuck Joe Biden, which, okay,
fuck the Democrats. Okay, how are we getting out of
this then, y'all because this motherfucker's accepting four hundred million
dollar planes and flying around in Air Force whatever they're
gonna call this shit and then planning on keeping it
after this presidency is over.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
And y'all are talking about whether or.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Not this man Biden was having mental delay a year ago.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
It's over. It don't whether he was or wasn't. He
stepped down, he did, it's over.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
We can quibble over when he should have stepped down,
but bitch, that's been that's been done. What would it
matter if everyone says you're right today?

Speaker 4 (43:17):
What will it matter? What will it matter? Right?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
But that's America. We we we argue about that bullshit.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
While Trump is just what you gonna do today? What
is what you gonna do tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (43:31):
This guy, this guy's just fishing.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
He's pitching all over, He's fishing on you.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
What's it tastes like?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
She cause you know what, it tastes like piss to me.
But yeah, go ahead, go up selling the book.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Shoe Boody says, you might say this Sports talk isn't
for everyone, but it's not like you go on and
all you have balls the sports, which isn't for me.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
But I learned sports things from this.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Sometimes I'll be listening catch on to some sports news
mention it to out loud to my husband.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
He says, how do you know that?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Like when I said, hold up, Deon Sanders is his
son's agent. That don't sound good for him. Thanks to
Tomorrow's for teaching me these things. You're welcome, Yeah, yeah, nah.
I mean sometimes we can get into weezersports stuff and
nerd stuff whatever, and I know we normally say those
things far behind the paywall stuff, but you know, we
know what we're talking about, And in my head, I'm

(44:23):
always like, ugh, I hope this is interesting. I hope
people aren't just skipping all over the fucking show. But
you know, honestly, if.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
They do, that's their lossit we knowing what we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Yeah. And also it's one of those things to where
we talk about a lot of different variety of stuff too.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
And the thing is, these things impact.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
The zeitgeist, and sometimes we will talk about it on
like the regular show because there are people who are
not behind the paywall that actually kind of want to
hear what we got to say about certain topics that
we a lot of times put behind the paywall, and
so that kind of gives you a taste of what
you're gonna get if you start paying, you know, because
a lot of times we'll go into more d details,
particularly with Justin and you know, deep dive and you know,

(45:04):
tell how we feel, you know about certain things, like
a lot of times things happen and we don't cover them.
There's a percentage of people that could give a fuck,
but there are people that really want to hear about
what we got to say.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
So I don't mind those things.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Like we said, we don't make it the bulk of
the show, but we do touch on those.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Topics because a I feel like there's a.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Large percentage of people that want to hear it and
be there are percentage of people that don't know what
the fuck we're talking about, but if somebody else mentioned
it to him or because it's some things are so big,
people that hear about it, even if they don't really
understand what it is, and to an extent, we can
educate them so that they kind of can have an
idea about what's happening and what's going on.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yep, one thing about you. You're gonna keep your money
on your mind and your mind on your money. Sean
says Mar was never a liberal. He's always been a
libertarian with uninformed views, and not the left on social issues,
right on economic issues that libertarians usually say they are.
He's the ignore institutional bias and let the corporations run
everything as they see fit with no regulations including discrimination protections.

(46:01):
Type of libertarian basically anti government rather than actually libertarian.
After nine to eleven he started to lean hard into Islamophobia,
which has opened the door to his current open hostility
and bigotry towards trans people. His other bigotries sometimes come out,
but he does try to hide them more than his
open bigotry. He was interesting to watch during the Politically
and Correct year. It's not great, just interesting. But every

(46:23):
year since two thousand and two he's proven that Comedy
Central made the smart move and cutting his punk ass.
The ironic thing is like Politically and Correct ended, I
believe because he said that the terrorists for nine to
eleven had to have courage to do what they did,
and people got so mad at him for saying that

(46:43):
I don't want to quibble over Bill Maher, So if
that's your interpretation of him, that's fine with me. I
never felt he was necessarily a liberal role, but I
definitely knew he had he was liberal on some issues,
and not just like like.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
He was liberal, like he's a Peter motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I forget everything, Like there were things that he was
and I think, you know what, no, actually it matters.
It matters for the fucking truth, and the show is
about the truth here. So there were things that he
was considered a leftyon and Republicans used to hate this man.
Republicans used to not want to go on his show,
and it matters. We have to be honest, and we

(47:27):
can say, like he was never liberal, but liberal changed
his definition over our lifespans. So he was liberal for
the time. And now people call Obama a centrist. So
that like the things Obama passed would have been considered
very liberal things ten years before Obama did him, and

(47:48):
now ten years after was like this motherfucker, he might
as well be a conservative. So Bill Maher has existed,
and you know, I.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Think, what when is this shell start for politically correct?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
It had to be the nineties or something so like
nineties Yeah, so like dude, dude, yeah, ninety three to
ninety seven, Comedy Central, politically correct.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
I would not say he was a like.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
He wasn't.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
His thing wasn't.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I'm a card carrying liberal progressive. He's very much a libertarian.
But the point is he had some views that were
considered to be socially progressive and all this stuff. He
has changed, and we must make note of that change.
It needs to be studied because my point that I'm
making on the show, and I know Sean isn't necessarily

(48:41):
trying to refute this point, but it's important to and
Jermaine to.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
The point I've been making.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
It is a slippery slope gateway this right wing bullshit.
Bill Martin not start like he is right now. It
got worse, and I watched it get worse. I watched
this people stop doing it. And it wasn't just the Islamophobia.
It was a lot of shit. It's just he and
now he's just so he's basically a right wing person

(49:09):
at this point. I'm sure he would say he's not.
But come on, we see you when you're paldling around
with Trump and Republicans now can't wait to go on
your show and glad hand you.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
This is one a change, you know. So, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Don't think any of us believed he was like some
super hippie. We just knew he smoked weed and shit.
But yeah, he's changed, and I think it's important to
note that change. I don't think it hurts the It
doesn't make me feel any less. Uh, it doesn't lessen
my intensity of dislike for that man just because uh

(49:50):
he was, you know, to also point out that, yeah,
he wasn't always this bad.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
He's this is the worst he's.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Ever been in five years from now will probably be
worse than this. So anyway, Rome rom says, do I
believe Tory Lanes was stabbed?

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Do I care Tony Tory Lanes will stab Hell no,
romy Rong. Did you see him get stabbed? How you
know he was stabbed? So you just believe anything? Have
y'all asked the person that's accused of stab.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Of him if they did it. They might say no,
they didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Maybe a security guard overheard him getting stabbed and heard
another person say he stabbed him, and then realized that
no one actually got stabbed.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
He just was hearing it.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
He didn't see it, so how can we know any
of that is true? I disagree, ROI rong. He says,
I don't believe Tory Lanes was stabbed because too many
conflict the stories. Plus I think he's using as excuse
to reduce the sentence. But by the off chance he did,
I hope it hurt exactly.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Uh, let's see YouTube. We got six comments. Omar says
what Tory Slipton fell landed on fourteen shifts. Will Willie says,
fell all fourteen pieces of glass talk about bad luck.
I recalled Bill Maher from years ago before. It's politically incorrect.
He hasn't ever been funny to me. He had to

(51:02):
have a good sponsor pushing his career over the years. Yeah,
I'm listen. Bill Maher to me is the ultimate example
of what Jail Covid calls clapter. Now it's ironic because
Jail Covin and his mom are like mar fans, and
they're like, I don't know how much they are now fans,

(51:23):
because obviously Bill Maher's really made some changes over over
these last few years, but you know, to the point
where you go see him live and stuff.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
And you know as staunches as.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
JL is about, he's a stickler for like comedy and
stand up and like you gotta do it the right way.
And there's so many popular comedians that I think are
pretty good or at least put out funny stand up
that Jail will be like, nah, they kind of like
they kind of did this move or they did that move.
You know, he's like studying the game basically to say like, hey,
this motherfucker right here is they're doing a little bit

(51:58):
of tricks.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
You know, they're painder into the art. It's a little
bit or whatever.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
And so he has this thing called clapter where it's
not really like applause and at the same time it's
not really laughter. It's clapter meaning I'm clapping because I
agree with the point of your joke, not because I
found it funny.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
So you know Bill Maher, you know, he has a
lot of atheist jokes. He has a lot of atheists fans.
He comes and says some atheists shit, and people clap
because I'm an atheist and I agree religion is crazy,
not because what you said was like the funniest observation
about religion. And that's his delivery style, and he's been
doing that for years and it isn't funny to me.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
I don't He's he.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Was one of the first comedians that I'd be like,
even if I agree with the premise and the setup
and the joke, I can be I can sit up
there and be like, I didn't find that.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Funny, right, And he's one of the comedians over the years.
I'm like, I would never see you live, Like in
my mind, I was like, it would be boring as
shit to me to see you live if this is
what I'm going to receive.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, like I watched his specials and stuff before, you know,
I just you know, it's clapped her and look, there's
a lot of money and shit to be made.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
All.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I mean, the motherfucker is rich, the guy he been
around forever doing clapter.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Like I, I don't I see the uppeal. Okay, yes,
Like I don't.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Necessarily need to have motherfuckers doubled up crying if I'm
motherfucking walking away rich about to go smoke me some
weed and have sex with a black prostitute every night,
Like if that's what his dream is, that's his dream.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
But yeah, it is wild.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Uh, Sadly, David Hogg is gone for a white man,
says as Carter Thomas, because the Republicans are still hypocritical,
judgmental assholes. But also young people I once was one,
have always had to worry about money and politics as
well as enjoying life he's talking about. He's talking from
a privileged perspective, white male, possibly rich or well off.
We are we we are and will continue to fight

(53:55):
for our rights, and we will love live our lives
as we see fit because Republicans will continue to try
to rule over everyone to take away said rights.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
The fight only stops when we give up.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
And I hate identity politics in quotes because your politics
always align with your identity or you're voting against your
best interests. It just happens that most black people's politics
encompass rights for more than just us. Yep, snack Pack says,
I noticed in your feedback shows that the most frustrating
comments you get are often on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
So here's a positive one for you. Thank you, snack Pack.
But love Butterfly says love your intro. Yeah, Blue Butterfly,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Jason says, Yeah, that Gender Wars was awful. The moment
I saw in Baku in the front of the class.
I knew this was quite fake. That joint should have
had opening credits, right. I disagree slightly with Ride about
David Hagg, the David Hagg thing. I agree one hundred
percent that after all that tough talk, he's basically pushing

(54:53):
the same centrist agenda. He literally said the exact same
thing Andrew Schultz said. Honestly, even alc and Burnie are
being centrist with they're speaking when they're speaking on tour.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Where I disagree is I.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Am highly offended that he's what he said about Jim Clyburn.
I am certainly okay with primaries and suggesting that new
blood could be good, but you don't tell that man
to get over himself. I think they get confused that
since they talk to their parents and grandparents crazy.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
They can do that to ours.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
I'll put it this way, the same flowery, inoffensive understanding
tone and language that he and Bernie and all of
them used when discussing the poor white Trump supporter, you
better at minimum find that flowery, inoffensive understanding tone and
language for that eighty old black man who didn't vote
for Donald Trump. I promise if he said that to
mister clyburn I was present, Me and young Dave would

(55:42):
have had our own caucus.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
Ha haa Hey, Jason, I agree with you on that.
That's a good point. I listen.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
The reason I say I don't get offended by that
type of shit is mostly about you have a public
elected office.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
No one is entitled to be nice to you. That's it.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Like, no matter what I think of Jim Clydburne, positive
or negative, what I do know about holding public office
in America is that motherfuckers are gonna take shots at you.
They're gonna be disrespectful, they gonna they gonna infight, they
gonna outfight. I don't like any of it necessarily. I
don't think it's germane too much, but I can tolerate

(56:27):
that within the auspices of like that's politics in America.
So like if he says he needs to get over himself,
I'm not highly offended, mostly because I don't want to
give David Hogg that power over me, that he can
say something and I go, what the fuck, okay, whatever,
because someone's gonna tell him to suck a dick or
shut the fuck up one day, and I'm not gonna
get you like what like it is what it is,

(56:50):
But I totally understand and empathize with you, because it's
really more of a mental shield I put up for
myself less so than a this is an offensive. It's
more like this whole thing of politics in America can
easily get offensive, and I just don't want to be
hair triggered every single time that somebody pops off. So

(57:11):
to me, I'm like, okay, whatever, what is the substance
of what you have to say, David ha fuck?

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Fuck? Yes?

Speaker 2 (57:17):
You told Jim Clyburn the ship shut the fuck up
or whatever, and everyone clapped for you because that's what
white people really want, is these black people in the
South to go away and have no voting power.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
But okay, now, what is your plan?

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
My plan is to get Trump supporters to come back
to Democrats that are young white men.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Okay, fuck you and fuck your plan? How about that?

Speaker 3 (57:37):
You know?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
And also, because I will talk shit about some of
these politicians, I can't be like, well, not the ones
I like. Nah, I like Jim Clyburn. I wouldn't talk
shit about him necessarily. I think you have to respect
his work. And if you want to go beat him.
You should primary him and go beat them. And if
you can't do that, then you're just bitching, right And

(57:59):
if you're just bitching, then I don't trust you can
defeat the Republicans.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
That's the part that no one ever gets to, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I saw god I can't remember his last name, Sam
something activists and he was tweeting about like how old
Democrats just need to like retire and step down. And
I say this with h Well, it's gonna sound disrespectful,
so it just is. But hey, man, if you have

(58:29):
to politely ask, slash beg or impolitely imply to incumbent
Democrats who won their seats because they were elected by
the people in their constituency, not they weren't appointed. They
didn't steal the election. They put their feet on the ground,

(58:50):
they made end rows in the community, and then they
were dueifully, legally, lawfully elected. They didn't jerry mander it.
They got elected by the people in their fucking district. Okay,
if you are saying, hey, you're old, please please quit.

(59:12):
I don't believe you are the people that can actually
stop Republicans, right cause you're telling me these democrats too
solve and what is your plan?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Please?

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Please, sir, please quick? Can you go home and stop
trying to help the people in your district and just
let me do it? Can you let us do it.
We're gonna just be progressive. We just gonna say it.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Okay, So when you do, let's say that happens, they
just give you the seat. You don't gotta fight for
it or nothing, don't gotta earn a single vote. They
just you think in your mind, they just step down
and you step up.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Okay. So what you're gonna do to stop Trump? Please, sir?

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Can you please?

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Republican Margie Taylor Greed, don't do that? Can you please quit?

Speaker 6 (59:52):
So that?

Speaker 2 (59:53):
No, you have to be a fighter, And the first
fight is getting a fucking seat.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
The first fight is the primary.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
This is not fighting, This winding online to people that
ain't even in them district.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
So who gives a fucking You got a million retweets
and views.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
If none of them come from a certain portion of
South Carolina, then Jim Climer is just going right back
to his job. So who cares what David hagg has
to say on Bill Maher's show. Bill Maher's people are
in They not voting in this fucking primary. Take your
ass down there and convince them black people that you're
not just anti black and trying to get rid of
the black Southern vote. Convince them that you got some

(01:00:30):
candidates and some people that have better ideas and better
plans that will help them out more. And you'll find
something interesting about black people in the South. It's something
you'll find about most black people everywhere. It's something you'll
find about most voters everywhere. They will vote for you
if you can convince them.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
You have good policies.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, it's really that simple. It's really that simple. We're
no different than anybody fucking else. But if you just
want to scold us, or look down on us, or
try to come up with some way that you serve
our authority downs, then you're gonna end up in a
position you're in now, which is a bunch of people
going fuck you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Then you, but this is my thing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
You give us no other choice because this is my thing,
and and and and it's very very frustrating, and I
will forever feel like this. I don't give a fuck
about your complaining. I don't even care about you threatening
about primary my thing, particularly when a lot. And this
is something that really and I was young too, but
I've never done this, and I've said it last week.

(01:01:33):
I'm tired of young people acting like once you hear
a certain age, you're supposed to go go somewhere and
fucking die and everybody's supposed to give everything to you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
It doesn't work like that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Do not come around here telling these people, like Roger said,
who did the goddamn work, who have to meet with
these people, have time hall meetings, that they're they're in
these communities. Bitch, you don't live here. A lot of times,
you don't stay here. You have no connections to these areas.
And yet you're gonna come and tell these people how
they should vote, and tell these people what's important to them.

(01:02:07):
And then you're gonna tell somebody who's had the seats
for decades to just give it up. Bitch, you take it,
and I will forever say that if you won't it,
take it, if you can't take and a lot of
times they whine because they know they can't take it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
With it, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
If you can't bring your ass down here and talk
to the people and convince the people to vote for you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
What are we doing. You're wasting time?

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
And you know, like I said, I try not to
get too charged up about it, but at this point
I do get a little bit charged up, because.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
What do you how do you think Jim Clyburn got
to see how do you think he got to seat y'all?

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Like what do you think he had to face to
become a congress person in South fucking Carolina?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Eat South Carolina?

Speaker 6 (01:03:07):
Dog?

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Like this man came up in nineteen sixty nine during
a hospital strike in Charleston, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
This man's a fighter.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
And this whole like just quit your old shit sounds
cool to you as a young person, But what this
first test is is are you gonna quit? Because I've
seen a lot of young people come and go, and
especially in this last ten fifteen years, in the era
of online social media activism, a lot of y'all have

(01:03:47):
come and gone. Yeah, a lot of y'all it was
too hard, and y'all just gave up. And y'all now
y'all back doing young people shit. You're toring, you're having kids,
your families, you're in college, you're doing whatever the fuck else.
You got jobs you fucking did, and these old folks
it's still with the cause, right, and you can't just
corrupt that by throwing bullshit out there. Look, hey man,

(01:04:10):
hey they just corrupt. Okay, well then go go beat them,
show me the corruption. And when y'all don't do it,
when y'all y'all do is bitch and complain and you
don't actually go put someone in the race to win,
or when you do put someone in the race and
y'all lose. Right, y'all starts sounding like Trump and Burnie
with the rigged election bullshit, instead of saying we lost

(01:04:33):
fair and square, we thought we had an in rows here.
We actually have a lot more work to do, and
we need to stay committed to this area of the
country and to these voters and understand this is a
multi year uphill climb till we get a percentage of
the population that is high enough for us to win
one of these seats. That's the commitment that we're asking for.

(01:04:57):
And instead people are taking into getting offended like black
people don't give a fuck about their these these policies.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Right, No, you just got to do the work and
the reason.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
And I've said this on the show before, and I'm
so glad Jason brought it up in his comment. If
we were white, you wouldn't be talking like this, right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
White people can be straight.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Up racist, they can vote for a racist, they can
say horrible, bigoted things, and you will tell me why
it is important to understand them, not judge them, to
have empathy for them, and to invite them to the conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Black people, we just get scolded.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
And if I didn't like the shit when Obama did it,
I definitely don't like it when fucking David Hogg does it.
And just because you progressive doesn't give you any motherfucking
right more than those people talk to me like you
won't my vote right, and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
Then we can have a discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
But just so like I'm gonna just yell at y'all
and act like y'all stupid, Well, then okay, then we're
at the mpass because I am willing to be just
as obstinate about this shit as y'all are. So, now,
what are we gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
What are we gonna do?

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
You're gonna keep complaining and I'm gonna keep not voting
for you and and and and my thing. Like I said,
particularly being down here from the South, we do not
have the luxury that the rest of you niggas have
in other parts of the country. We just don't so,
and my opinion is very frustrating, and it's very insulting
to the black people down here when a lot of

(01:06:28):
white people love to come down here and tell us
what to do. Bernie Sanders is a prime example of this.
Love to come down here, tell us what to do,
tell us how to vote, and we were like, bitch,
we don't know you and who are you who? And
then you want to act like we're the problem. And
that consistently happens to white people. They want to just
come down here and just act like these bumbling, fumbling

(01:06:49):
black folks. We can just easily come down here and
manipulate them and tell them what to do, and they're
just gonna vote for us, and when we don't, we're
the problem versus you doing the motherfucking work.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
But thank you for that comment. And the pole was
do you think Tory Lanez was really stabbed?

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Yes or no?

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Kind of surprised by the results fifty four forty p Yes.
I thought yes would be a lot lower. I definitely
don't think he got stabbed. I think he made it
all up. And all right, let's get into voicemails. But
first another beat so we can get some commercials in here.
Let's see psycho music, gunsmo, psycho. All right, we got

(01:08:04):
a couple of voicemails from Dre, so let's see what
you had to say.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
Okay, all right, so this is draggon not not to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Make every feed back voicemail segment turned into politicians till
we get mad, because that's what I did last time.
I recognized that I did that, and I apologized because
this might do it again. But I was listening to
you and Karen's response to that voicemail about the Democratic
Party and all that shit, and all I could think

(01:08:37):
to myself was when when Karen was rattling off all
the different things that the Democrats try and do to
protect people, I really started thinking, in truth, no matter
what you want to happen in this country, there is
a Democrat no sound.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Yeah, they saying they don't have any sound. They can't
hit the voicemail.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
What oh man? Okay, uh, that's not good. Let's see
I have the all right, let me try switching to.

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Yeah, we're going to be sure y'all hear it Okay,
let me try refreshing, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
I'll see if that works. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
M hm.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Hmmm mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Okay, Uh, y'all were able to hear those beats and
stuff I played earlier?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Yeah, I think it was just the voicemail.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Just so, only the voicemail. Okay, all right, I'll try
playing it now.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Let's see.

Speaker 6 (01:09:43):
All right, So it is drag not not to make
every feedback voicemail segment.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Are y'all hearing that now? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
I thought it was just I can hear it. I
can hear it now, we hear me now? Okay, Nope,
they can't. So they can't he hear this voicemail?

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Hm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Yeah, it's just a voicemail specifically, so it might be
a setting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Yeah, it just doesn't make sense because it before and.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Yeah, last week they heard it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Let me say about opening a different browser maybe that, guys.
We're all working on the fly here, ye, So all right,
I'm gonna hit play in this browser.

Speaker 6 (01:10:30):
All right, So it is direct.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Not not to make every feedback voicemail segment turned into
politician too?

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Okay, could y'all hear that one? We can hear, so
it just can't be in cromped Okay, whatever, all right,
here we go. I'll finish playing it now. But that
that's very fucking weird.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
You get back because that's what I did last time.
I recognized that I did that, and I apologize because
I'm this might do it again. But I was listening
to you and Karen's response to that voicemail about the
Democratic Party and all that shit, and all I could
think to myself was when when Karen was rattling off

(01:11:14):
all the different things that the Democrats try and do
to protect people, I really started thinking, in truth, no
matter what you want to happen in this country, there's
a Democrat who supports that vision.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
And when I say, no matter.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
What, if the only the only qualifier for being in
the Democratic Party is that your policies are not overtly.

Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
Driven by cruelty.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
You can be a Democrat and not believe in abortion.
You can be a Democrat and believe in letting the
oil companies run wild. You can be a Democrat. There
are Democrats who believe everything under the sun. The only
difference is they do not package it in. And by

(01:12:06):
the way, we'll rich children from their families. Oh and
by the way, we'll make sure all the blacks don't
get any By the way, we'll send all the brown
people back home. The only reason to be voting for
the Republican Party right now is to express that cruelty
to another group of people. There's no policy decision even behind,

(01:12:27):
you know, is what I'm saying. Like, that's not even
a part of the calculation at this point, and it
can't be. There's no way that it can be because
it's just not so that's it. I feel like if
out of way, I could have formulated that better. But
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
I feel like, okay, real fast, I can see how
I'm I don't want it to seem like The point
I'm trying to make is that like it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
I just want to make my point a little more incisefully.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
What my point is is, if what you want is
to have a true and earnest debate about how policy
should be enacted in this country, and what direction the
country should go in fiscal policy, all of these different things,
if that's really what you care about, the only place
that conversation is actually being had is.

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
Within the Democratic Party.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Republicans are not having policy conversations. They are having conversations
about social issues and other bullshit that they would like
other people to think that that's all the Democratic Party
is about, But.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
They are not interested in governing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
And if you have any interest in determining how the
country is governed, then the only place that conversation happens
is within the Democratic Party at this point, and how
progressive you are or how conservative you are is not
really a defining feature of whether or not you cannot
engage with this party's politics.

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
And that's really my point.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
And so for all of those people who do choose
to vote Republicans, I can't waste my time in stay
speaking to them or with them, because you've already shown
me you're not interested in the conversation, right, You're just
interested in seeing someone else hurt and you need to
go to therapy for that shit or whatever. All right now,
I'm really that love.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Totally, Jerry, I think and I don't think it's my fault.
Republicans just have not left room for anything other than
the cruelty being the point right. Shout to Adam Sirer.
But yeah, it's it's literally all they have left. If
it was you know, and what I think the fundamental
issue that I think people are missing about the Democratic

(01:14:38):
Party versus the conservative parties in America is that the
Democratic Party is representative of all of America. It's actually
not representative of left and just progressive and just It's
not the more progressive you are, the better off that
you are in the party, because Republicans have decided to

(01:14:58):
just relinquish themse from having to govern and to just
steal elections in gerrymander districts and stuff like that stop
people from voting. Once they became an anti democratic party.
It forces everyone who believes in democracy for good or bad,
meaning like whether you're pro abortion or anti abortion, it
does not matter what or I guess that's not the

(01:15:22):
term I meant, but whatever, pro choice or anti choice, whatever,
it doesn't matter, you're then you're gonna end up in
this vote. If you believe in people having the right
to represent themselves in the democracy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
So now we have to we approach the party like
why can't you just ideologically be one way? It's like,
because we can't. We this party is made up of
a bunch of fucking circles that only have a small
VN diagram overlapping right. We believe that those who vote
should be represented. That is what this party is now,

(01:15:56):
and people haven't recognized it, so they still think it's like, no,
you just changed this policy, or we just approach it
like that, get rid of the old people.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
It's like no, every single group.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
That's over here needs each other because we're the only
people that believe that this country should be run at
It should still be run as a country, and the
government should still be a government and not just a
private business where everyone is grifting. But we've let that
happen on our watch, so we're gonna pay the consequence.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Yes we are.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Lastly, we have emails, a couple of them. I'll just
go ahead and read them.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
The first one is from j Sizzle, who says new
subscriber Jeelani aka Bonifid aka J Sizzle aka j Cez.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
All Right, hey, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
First and foremost, I like to say thank you for
all your work, and that's just out the strength of
the freebe episodes. My partner Emily and I love listening
to your show together and cackling. The show is so
well rounded and there's a topic for anyone to relate
with all that aside, I've been abstained from the show
for damn near a week now because I didn't want
to hear any spoilers of the Sissy and Kendrick Show.
We had tickets to last night's show outside of Boston,

(01:17:07):
and holy Moses, was that amazing The length of the show,
song selection, straight up gorgeous visual effects phenomeno. It's not
that I didn't trust your opinions and insights, but I'm
a dweeb and I didn't want anything spoiled before the experience.
I look forward to going back and catching up to
the foolish as I've missed the past few days. I
also delighted to hear all the other great insights from
your other programs. Long story short, Emily, and I cannot

(01:17:27):
wait to hear more. Mister and missus, Karen Morrow Ps,
me and my and some homies used to do a
rap pod called.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Hip Hop Heads Podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
We've been on a bit of a it is, but
we love to pick your brain on these days and
talk to some rapid and raps. Have an amazing day,
please Yeah, Well, if y'all get that started back up,
shoot me an email and Uh, you know, I'll see
if we can schedule something. H Elis says, Hey, Hey,
Ryd and Karen, I just listened to maybe Tory Lanez

(01:17:56):
fail episode. When you first started talking about David Harb
wanted to vote our career politicians, I thought, oh lord,
cause for the most part I like that kid and
didn't want to hear anything whack about him. I knew
there was some talk around his primary and people specifically
Jim Clyburn, but I'm still on the news died, so
I didn't go down the rabbit hole. But when I
heard the clip you played, bruh, Disappointed isn't even a word.

(01:18:17):
Get laid and have fun? Really, that's what fuck? That's
that fuck boyshit. Wonder how his other Parkling classmates feel
about him paying into the very young people are to
the very young people are against gun control and probably
many other issues they have stood for.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
Right, And so.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
This is the fatal flaw of America, And this is
the one weakness in even our white allies.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
There is nothing a white person can do to make
people just give up on them, right, And I shouldn't
say a person that's not fair, but there's nothing white
people in mass can do a large group of white people.
There's nothing they can do in America that would make
people go that's just wrong. There is no coming back

(01:19:07):
from that, and we need to excite them. That is
not what happens. It is always some sort of like, well, emotionally,
how did they get here? Then we start lying to
ourselves it must have been the economy that made the
clue klubs Klan kill those black people. Maybe those black
people really are bad people, and they don't you know,
like it's everything except this. This is a bad person

(01:19:28):
that we can't negotiate with involving anything. We can't save them,
we can't convince them. They're never coming back, right, These
David Hog included, these democrats like David Hogg, these progressives
would rather lose the black vote in the South forever

(01:19:48):
if they to chase the white vote in the Midwest.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
That is never coming.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
No, they're not coming to white vote in the South.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
That is never coming.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
They would rather chase just bad money after good right,
just throw money at it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
We're gonna go down there. We're gonna convince these people.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
You know, Bernie tried it first with the I'm gonna
talk to Iowa and I'm gonna talk to and it
sounds great.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Well if you can.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
If you can't bring up anything about race when you're
talking to these people, then all I'm hearing is you're talking.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
To racist people.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Why are you afraid to talk about it? You know why? Well,
they agree on the economy. You know who else would
agree with you on the economy?

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Black people? You should be able to bring that up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
You should be like, yeah, and while things are fucked
up here in the Midwest, it's also fucked up for
black people, and that's why we have to come together
and unite in this fight. And instead it's like I
better and I bring up this black shit. People gonna
get scared. It's weird, man, it's bad. But uh yeah,
anyway that shit is, Uh, it's fucking us. Have to say,
I appreciate the riffs you do ride on certain folks

(01:20:50):
and subjects.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
You were spot on about Hawg. He's like the gen
Z version of Ezra Klein. Facts.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Uh, the base of the Democratic Party is Black people,
particularly black women. But we're ignored and taking for granted
while these folks paying it to these people who ain't
coming back. I have no interest in coming back to
the Democratic tent. So I note, I really appreciate politics
until we get mad. That segments my spirit animal. I'm
glad we're able to package that into something that people
could appreciate, because I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
I don't look forward to that segment.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
I'll be mad from the beginning truth be told.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
Yeah, but I'm glad it still matters to people me too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
And there was something else she said, Oh yeah, And
the thing that's crazy to me is the thinking when
it comes to black voters. And I look, I yeah, anyway,
there are people I respect that will say shit like this,
but it's like where.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
Else they gonna go?

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Okay, keep thinking that, right, Keep thinking that, because I
think people are finding out right the fuck now in
twenty twenty five, it is five months in, like three
four months in the Trump's presidency. And I don't mean
to be a dick about this. And now I'm not
saying this is gloating. I'm just saying, have you notice

(01:22:08):
how little black people seem to give a fuck about
all this? Like we're fitting to go march, were about
to protest, were about to do this, We're gonna raise
money for this thing. We care about us we care
about ourselves, we care about our community.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
And what is happening to us?

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
All this labor that was happening because we were just
the backbone of the Democratic Party, and hey.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
We're not free to we all get free.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
That shit is a luxury that happens when you're not
so concerned with your own all consuming self preservation that
you can you can do a little something for everybody.
But right now, motherfuckers need they need to find what
how they gonna eat. And that's the sadness because everybody

(01:23:01):
we said this will happened. This wasn't hard to predict.
It was like, Okay, y'all, let this shit slip back
to Trump this whole week. But black women will say no,
they won't. Well, we're gonna march for home when we're not.
You're gonna be out there yourself withholding your signs, and
I hope you keep that same energy. I hope maybe
enough of y'all will be able to change it. But

(01:23:23):
this whole like black people out to get in line. Okay,
if you believe that, sure give it a shot. But
I'm gonna tell you right now, Doc David Hall can
complain to Bill maher All.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
He want.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
He need to go say that shit to a black
town hall in South Carolina if you want to change
how people vote in South Carolina, because if not, he's
just another white man mad about black people and how
we vote on TV.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
And honestly, they ain't never moved me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
I ain't never went to the post because I felt
guilty because some white man that never been to my
city think I should do something different. Come out here
and pander to me the way you panted to them.
White folks that's unions that still vote against your dumb
ass do that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
Panted to me the way you vote.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
You panted to these Joe Rogan listening, white boys that
love guns that shot up your school.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
Panted to me like that, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Panted to me the way you panted to Bill Marvel
shook hands with Donald Trump, sucked this dick and came
back with the come.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
On his face tap. Panted to me like that, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Sorry, they got a little graphic like politics to you
get mad, I'm sorry, no no problem.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
Also to uh, to kind of add to that, I
think that uh a lot of people, uh, and I'm
gonna keep it a lot of liberals, even a lot
of Democrats in all these people that are all across
the board. When black people was telling them, if Kamala
don't win, y'all, this ain't gonna be the same, like

(01:24:50):
so many people kind of forewarned them, and a lot
of black women say, I'm not doing shit.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
I will vote Democrat. Y'all not getting my label.

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
I'm not doing no phone banks, I'm not raising no funds,
I'm not getting with my girlfriends like like you know,
or if I'm am on shit, I'm doing the bare
minimum like like you like you're like, y'all not gonna
get this superstar that y'all had before because literally American
public did not realize them. Vote for Kamala House was

(01:25:20):
a smack in the face to the black community, particularly
to the black women who overwhelmingly supported and vote for her,
who also the backbone or the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
So y'all did it?

Speaker 5 (01:25:29):
Y'all thought we were bullshitting because things, you know, things
like this kind of happened before, and you know, some
time passes and and and then it's time to go
polling or it's it's time to hit the streets. And
you know, you calling Sheila, you're calling Sondra, you're calling there, bruh.
You know you're you're doing your normal thang and you're

(01:25:50):
either going to voicemail not picking up or they're telling
you no. And so now you're doing these rallies and
all of a sudden we look on a TV and
it's a sea of white. You know, they still killing us,
they still having these rulings against us. But you know
what's not happening people. You don't have all this outrage.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
You don't have.

Speaker 5 (01:26:11):
People being angry, and people are angry. Mat don't lie,
don't get me wrong, but not to the degree that
it was before.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
You know what we're doing.

Speaker 5 (01:26:17):
We're going to see Beyonce, were gonna see Kendrick, We're
going to see Todd the Creator.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Where we're doing things within the community.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
Well like that's the ship we're doing and the and
the thing that's, in my opinion, the thing that's the
most insulting part. We told y'all y'all thought we were lying,
and now you act like, well, you were telling the truth.
Bit yes, So now you hear a lot of other
people that say stupid shit like where are y'all at? No,
why you didn't appreciate me when I was there, You

(01:26:47):
act like me being there was not a big issue,
and that I will always be there where we're gonna go,
my black as at home, where we're gonna go. No
more watching in protests, and that's what we're gonna do.
We're still gonna vote Democrat. But but like you, like
Roger's saying, that labor and put like this, like like
like women at the house who cook and clean, that

(01:27:07):
invisible labor that a lot of these white libels and
white democrats take for granted. Knocking on doors in the
black community places. Y'all bitches would never take your white
asses into to reach these people because you're fucking afraid
of us, like like like like that, taking people to
the poles and and going down to all parts of

(01:27:29):
the building of nowhere where black people are.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
They're not gonna do that invisible labor work. You just
assume that shit got done.

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
And so it's gonna be interesting to see what's gonna
happen within the next few years as time goes on
and it gets worse and we are still not going
to be moved.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Yeah, come do the work, Come convince people that you
would be a better alternative. Everything else is just theatrics
at this point, sir, And it's been like, at least
for me, it's been ten twelve years of y'all saying
but not doing shit. At some point, I'll just believe
y'all just like talking. You've had time to make the
in rows. Green Party has had time to make the

(01:28:08):
row Progressives have had time to make the in rolls.
If ALC thinks that it's easy to win as a
Democrat in one of these middle of America constituencies where
you just show up and say I'm more liberal than
the other person, then send some people down there and
do it. Go do it. Don't threaten me with a
good time. You know, if you think you would be better,
I'm not averse to voting for you. I have no

(01:28:30):
loyalty to the idea of hey, this person is black,
that's why I'm voting for them.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
And you know who else thinks like that every single black.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Voter in the South, And if it wasn't true, then
Tim Scott would just be a motherfucker that we all
voted for for president. But we're not stupid and not
just voting because these people are black. We're voting because
they made in rolls into the community to have relationships.
They go back decades that they put money and time
and resources into the community. So you want to go
beat them, You need to find a way to do

(01:28:58):
the same thing, and you need to do it but
with a little bit of more of a respect. And
don't just talk crazy to us and talk down to
us and talk bad about our representatives like we're all
fucking sheep and somehow this guy just keeps getting elected
because we're all fucking stupid. Just talk to us the
way you talk to the white people that just happen
to keep electing Republicans, like not even Democrats that y'all

(01:29:18):
don't like, they vote Republican. Why aren't y'all primary Joe Manchin,
Why don't y'all primary people like that? Like?

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Because why because they voted this as white? So you
gotta talk to them nice? Fuck out of my face?

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
All right, back to this, I think there was a
little bit more to go on this email. Oh yeah,
going a little further back yard once talked about podcast
numbers and mentioned left leaning ones all freely criticized the
powder on the Democrats. I had to wipe a lot
of podcasts off my list particularly Trevor Noah. I got

(01:29:54):
tired of him and his crew constantly Monday Morning quarterback
in the Dems, while also talking, always talking about how
brilliant the Orange Went is. AnyWho, I can't take hawks
seriously anymore, and he gets no respect.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
I thought he was plunk rock.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
I don't listen to Trevor Noah's podcast like that. I like,
I literally tap in like once every few months to
hear it consistently.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Yeah, I do listen, but not consistently.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Yeah, so I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
I don't know what that political commentary is, but I
mean Trevor Noah And you know, like I said on
Bigger Bubbles, if you guys want to go listen to
that which you alluded to, I think I summarized it all,
like I don't expect these people to really be honest,
and I don't know how much of it is them

(01:30:39):
being honest, and how much of it is it's all
a game to them, and how much of it is honestly.
You can't get to be Trevor Noah if you're the
kind of nigga that's like, no, Donald Trump is bad.
There's nothing good to we shouldn't be applying him in
any way.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
There's nothing funny about.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
This motherfucker Liken you just then you become a person
that is not allowed to have a platform like that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
Lastly, I finally.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Made it to see Centers Say your podcast about it
with your two guests, Mike and BOSSI from the idea
of podcasts to listen to after I saw what a
great conversation. You know how pimping ain't easy, Well, neither
was staying away from spoilers means gifts, posing postings and
think pieces about sinners. I'm proud of the Jedi mind
trick I had to do to be fresh for it
to be fresh for me.

Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
And boy was it listening to your episode the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
The day after, I was surprised to hear about the
pounding the character Grace was taking online.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
My outlook for her was similar to both of yours.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
My only critique was rid you kept saying the movie
took place in the twenties, where actually it was the thirties.
Because of the day of the day of the stories
started October sixteen, nineteen thirty two, because that was my
uncle Anderson's birthday.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
It stuck out to me. Yeah, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Did that on purpose because I don't like your uncle Anderson.

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
I didn't want you to find out. I did not
want you to find out this way.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
It's very awkward because now we were just vibing and
we're talking about politics and everything was going good. Do
you believe that nigga know what he did? Uncle Anderson.
I'll never forget it. As far as I'm concerned that the
thirties did not happen in America, it goes straight from
the twenties to the forties.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Anything's happened in the thirties is the twenties to mount.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
As always, thank you both for all that you do
keep us in foreign engage and laughing. Oh yeah, I
heard about the last day of COVID sale in the
May fifteenth.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
At midnight on May sixteenth, God damn h that's all folks,
Ley from Brooklyn. Thank you, Lely Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
I appreciate you listening. And uh, you know, I was
just joking about your uncle Anderson. Okay, I made a mistake.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
It happens, you know, players fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
All right, y'all, that's it for the day. Thanks for listening.
We'll be back throughout the week. I know next week.

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
The first week of June.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
We're heavy with that, but uh, you know, this next
couple of weeks, I think we don't have anything book
right now, So we'll talk to you guys throughout the
week as episodes come up. I enjoy the w NBA returning,
enjoy Game seven of the NBA Conference round to the Knicks,
shout out to go New York, Go New York, Go

(01:33:20):
you go, New York.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
Gol Okay, Knicks, Pacers. Everything old is new again, ain't it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
DM. I'm excited about that. I don't know who's gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Chat.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
I see that going to Game seven.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Tyre's Halliburn gonna do the choking thing like like Reggie,
let's go, what's gonna happen? I am here for it
all right, y'all. We'll talk to y'all next time. Until then,
I love you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
I love you too, La,

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