3131: Clarification Vs Correction

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We got seven comments. Okay, Ip, you're rote the first two. Uh,
I do have to.

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I mean, I wonder how this works for y'all, but
like sometimes some of y'all leave two three comments in
a row?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Y'all don't finish this in the episode. You just send
it and then you think about something later. I just
wonder how that works, because you know, you would think
that there would just be one comment, but they're like
literally in a row, like seventeen minutes apart.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, because sometimes I think people listen in like real
time and then type something. And we've had comments before with.

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People and they don't like save it for one document,
so they just submit two three comment.

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Yeah, and then some people come back and be like, oh,
you are you touching what I said?

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Well? Not they're not replies.

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I'm saying when a person leads to in a row
for themselves and there's not a like anything, nothing happened between.

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Them, right right, Like there's nothing between Yeah, because we've
had people leave a comment and then leave another comment
and be like, oh, I listened some more, you actually
respond to what I said.

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I see what you mean.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
So sometimes when people listen, they actually listen, like in
real time, so they kind of commenting on my post
in real time.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Here says I thought a lot about what the right
amount of news consumption is that what's morally right?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, like a true rule breaker. Here you go, being
a wild card.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
As a child, I thought someone who sits at breakfast
and reads multiple newspaper was an intellectual, informed person, and
I wanted to be this way. Maybe it was better
without the internet. Here no social media debas on politics, But.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
This is not my point.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
The act to consume less news felt in the beginning
as if I portrayed the version of smart me. Now
over it, because I know the reading news non stopping
being on social media is directly linked to my mood
dropping extremely in my anxiety rising, and I really don't
want that, especially seeing there isn't really.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Anything for me to do in conflicts.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
The media reports will never get a resolution even if
a situation improves.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
They don't want to admit it.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
They say it's unsure if newfound resolution will remain because
of X Y. While I'm still thinking about a catastrophe
from two weeks ago, my brain gets stuck on things.
It's her favorite catastrophes. Everyone seems to have moved on
to new awful things. This approach doesn't work for my brain. Now,
don't consume news. Go always to vote in an election
and have downloaded the brilliant app and app it teaches

(05:45):
math science, computer science and data analysis. My brain can
get stuck on that and it does great side effect.
I learned things to get smarter. I must comment again
about antidepressence and suicidal thoughts.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
This is how it works.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Your motivation under the SSRII it was before your mood,
so before you have been too depressed to do anything.
But in the first two weeks of taking them you
get your drive back. Unfortunately, the outlook on life can
still be very dark. It will get better in the
next two weeks. It's important to know it before you
started them to understand your thoughts. I know some people

(06:17):
personally very well a friend who experienced this, so, oh,
that sounds like a very bad combination or scary combination.
Is your motivation improves, but your depression stays the same
for the first couple of weeks, and your mood hasn't changed.
So it's like, I can see how maybe that will
make you feel almost more determined to end it, because
now you have this newfound motivation to act on these

(06:39):
thoughts that haven't fully.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Transitioned into something more positive.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Right, Even he says to piggyback on what you said
right about people used to listening to low information shows.
It referenced to this person writing then to tell you
to stop correct and caring nothing against them. But I
also think people are so caught up in real life
gender wars that when they see couples asking for clarification,
they say it as toxic. They're not used to seeing
a healthy discourse between a man and a woman who
actively listen and respect each other when they're having a conversation.

(07:06):
I've been listening to shows for years now, and I've
heard Karen correct or ask for clarification from you as well,
and that's why the show is so good, and neither
of you gets defensive if that happens, even when listeners
right in to clarify, you're always open to that as well.
The only thing Roy continues to be wrong about is
the misinformation spreads about Arby's. They have the meats, well, honestly, now,

(07:26):
what's honestly interesting about that? Because so many of y'all
will say stuff like that, y'all are misinterpreted me. I've
never said that Arby's was nasty or the food don't
taste good. That's not That's not what I'll be talking about.
I just think it's you know, drug laundering, the operation,
that's all. No one's ever in there, and you know

(07:48):
it's true, so you can enjoy them. What are they
selling now, Burnt rib tips? You know, something from rib nuggets?
So I don't know what they do. It doesn't matter
what they sell because he's I've never met anyone who's
tried that shit.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
But they continue to stand business.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
They are buying other businesses that they have more people
in them. So I don't know what kind of gus
frame bullshit is happening in there, but like that's not
my business Okay, just y'all enjoy your Harvey's just stop
writing in and acting like it's not.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
What it is, a criminal organization.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Rner Ralphael says, I second everything you said on clarifying
preach cys. Now, if Rby's PayPal me that meat money,
I'll stay with you one hundred percent until then.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I can't support a money launder in business.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Roning Rafael said, shout out to the best podcast and
best podcast in the world. I'm back in New York City. Goddamn,
it's hot in American streets. I lost weight trying to
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Speaker 3 (08:42):
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Speaker 2 (08:44):
Office and invest in the natural cooling of our streets.
Fresh off of the plain idea. Oh, on my last
night in Dutchland, I was treated to drinks at the harbor,
and I kept thinking about how great a TV show,
what a show would have crimes happening at.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
A beautiful harbor. Y'all inspire me.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Shoe Boody says emotional support podcast the Politics to It
Get Mad segment works so much because you really do
not normalize a very abnormal client bent we are in.
You're not making the rise of fascism, business as usual
like CNM and other political outlets and podcasting to be
doing you have the outrage one would expect.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, it's kind of scary too.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
How I mean, I guess, you know, we didn't live
through all these times, so I couldn't have known. But
it's kind of scary how normal some of this shit
gets treated, where like it's complete political corruption, and like
it's reported on our news without the like there's no outrage,

(09:42):
there's no shock. It's just kind of like just like
it's and especially not your opinion news, Like I don't like,
I'm sure mattaw is still you know, doing her thing,
but I mean, like if you watch it for me,
local Charlotte news, sometimes they have to cover things, you know,
that the government did period, you know, and it's the
local news. I don't expect them to give me an opinion.

(10:04):
They just cover it. But the things that they're covering
have grown more and more like alarming, and so they'll
be like, uh, you know, the Trump administration has started
ice rays in our city and they are not cooperating
with the police, and they have not been informed, and
it's just like that's just a thing that happened on Wednesday. Yeah,

(10:27):
and it's not you know that they go out, they
interview a couple people, you know, some lawyers in the
city or something. But it's not like it's not the
alarming thing you would think. I think it really brings home,
how you know, I've always thought about and heard people,
you know kind of I think with a level of

(10:48):
privilege be like, oh, if this happened in my country,
I just do blank, you know, we do this. No,
I don't know how this can ever happen in a country.
And I'm like, I'm living in a country where I
feel like fascism is happening every single day, worse and worse.
And we're still talking sports, and we're still talking, uh,
you know, just reporting the news, and we're covering it

(11:11):
like you know, uh, the presidents and the Epstein foules,
and that's just like kind of another story that to
be covered is not like a why hasn't he been
impeached today type of thing. No one's even saying the
words impeachment, like it's so very very interesting time.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
And the thing is, the tactics are the same and everybody,
I continue to say this, everybody thinks their exceptions to
these rules. When it comes to certain things, they're not.
And the thing is, if it happened before, it can
happen again, if the populace is uneducated and don't really
know how these things happen. This is a lot of

(11:48):
times why historians and people who like covered these things
and like they went through school got all types of
fucking degrees. I like, hey, y'all, boxes are being checked.
And the thing is the normalization of this. We've seen
it normalized. We have takes, we have histories, can burn
the uncover it. The shit was normalized, and it didn't
get normalized overnight. It was a slow burning process. It

(12:12):
was making people feel like this shit was okay, making
people feel like this shit was normal, making people look
at somebody else that you can step on so that
you think this shit will never impact you. It's a
trick bag. And as long as the populace in mass
thinks that they are an exception to the rule, fascism

(12:33):
will come and rise. Before you know, nobody has any powers,
nobody has any rights. Democracy is gone, and everybody that
had all these things to say will be looking at
me and was like, damn, where the rights go? And
people like me are gonna be furious because I was like, well,
I seen them slipping away and you were doing everything
else but paying fucking attention to the goddamn boat sinking.

(12:56):
That's how this shit happens.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, I think also there's a element of it that
I think people are almost in denial, and also they
just really did not understand the warning of like, no,
when this, when this evil takes office, it will be normalized.
It won't be what you're talking about with all the

(13:20):
outrage and the marches and the uh, there.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Won't be a liberal revolution.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
No one's gonna go split slit the throat, the throats
of all the riches people and uh attack, you know,
run up on all the politics. They're not gonna do that.
They're not, and the tenor of our society won't be
that way. It'll be this is normal, this is natural,
This is just how things are supposed to go because
that's who's in charge.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yes, and also particularly with our country all the side,
we're very we're very overall civil country, you know, and
people don't want admit that most of us follow the rules.
Majority of us follow the rules. We pay taxes, da
da da, So when the policy of top change. Whoever
the top change, we continue to follow the rules. When

(14:06):
you have somebody that goes I don't care about your rules.
I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. Guess what, the
populace does continue to follow the rules. So whatever fucked
up rules that they do, they will follow the rules.
In other parts of the world, this is how you
have rebellions. Shout out star wars. This is how you
have people fighting back. This is how you have you know,
people quote unquote taking over the government. I don't want
to live somewhere where whoever takes it over will dictate

(14:30):
how this country runs. I want this country to run
like it's supposed to run by and for the people,
not according to who has the most guns and who
can go and just fucking take over the government, like
I don't want to live anywhere like I personally don't
want to live anywhere like that.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, and the people with the guns are not the
people whose politics aligned with our side anyway. So right,
it's always been a stupid, to me, stupid fantasy, and
it's just escapism. It's just it's it's wishing for another's
that isn't us all taking the personal responsibility of voting

(15:05):
and being involved in politics and being involved in our government.
It's always looking for a skate that is not that
it's got to be some other magical answer. But there's
no Star Wars revolution happening. There's you know, there's no
the violence would not come from our side. You're not
willing to kill somebody for this shit, right, Like why
are we kidding ourselves behind podcast mics? We're you know,

(15:28):
we're paying our taxes, Like just I just hated it
just seems like such a bullshit way to get out of.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Talking about what is boring. But but what works right.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
And it's also the thing is, particularly once you get
down to a lot of this ship, a lot of
the spotlight on me shit dissipates, and the populace is
addicted to social media and they're addicted to turning the
cameras on themselves, myself included, like you and nobody's stance
to this room. We're all addicted to it. And when
you start kind of being like, hey, I gotta take

(16:01):
personal responsibility, all of a sudden, the spotlight ain't on me.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Some opinions, some opinions aren't sexy as others our opinions
that we're given right now, these are not sexy opinions.
We can't we put this out on the internet. It's
not gonna go viral. It's I mean, if anything, maybe
some people will be more like fuck them, but it
won't be like some Yes, this is what I'm talking about.
Why can't we get behind this message? But if we were,
here's like eat the rich, kill out the landlords, that

(16:27):
would have a bigger chance of going viral. Because it
is as unrealistic and ridiculous as it is. It's the
thing that is more bombastic, and people want the bombastic,
like dopamine hit from saying those things and getting that attention.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
But they don't.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
But they don't want the unsexy like do you go
to your local community municipal meetings?

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Like what hey, when's the last time you checked out
your town hall? Who's on your school board? Like that
is not sexy.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
But saying like I can't wait for the people to
get in the streets and run up on them, Okay,
sure which people?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah? Are you?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Not you? When people say that, they always imagine it
being somebody else. And also the the the the delusion
when you talk about the distraction. A lot of that
eat the rich and all that stuff, A lot of
that delusion is a distraction because it makes you look
at people who have more than you and say they're
the problem, and look at the people who have less
than you and say they're the problem. And never at
once and no pity of time do you look and

(17:28):
you say, how do I contribute to the problem? Is
everybody else is the problem for me.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Even when it's like we're gonna people are gonna get
in the streets, and like you said, they thinking it's
somebody else not themselves, right, because you can go get a.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Gun permit, you can get in the streets. You're not
you're not going to, Yes you can.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
But even when it's somebody else, they imagine that somebody
else has their exact politics, are but as willing to
do violence. They never imagine that to somebody else is
one of those guys from the fucking you know that
that ranch that they had like years ago where they
were like, we ain't paying government taxes and put out
some guns something like that, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Bundy Rams, Like, they don't imagine.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
They don't imagine that guy because they know that guy's politics.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Don't line up with theirs. But that's who got the
guns and want to fight the government the guns January sixth,
that's who got the guns. I want to fight the government.
It's not y'all. I'm with Karen.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm never going to be not be mad that they
forced Biden out of the race. I keep getting text
messages to donate to the Dems. I'm a liberal Democrat
through and through. But nah, fuck all the way off
with that. Go ask for the rich, your rich puppet
masters like Cloney for that money because I ain't got it.
Go ask Cloney for that coin. Since his little comments
can make a break of candidate apparently, get the fuck
out of here begging me for my heart earned dollars

(18:43):
already when you're not. But you're just gonna do whatever
you want and not act in a way that's truly
that what the constituency has in mind.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think what has been interesting and I and I'm
really surprised more. I just think that we've seen that
money can't buy an election, really, and nobody wants to
admit it.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Even with the Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Let it allow corporations to give as much money as
they want as if they're individuals. That's not why you
win or lose election. You win or lose based on
people going to vote. And we like to say an
advertisement or not advertisement is why someone wins an election.
But I feel like, once again that's another one of

(19:36):
those working backwards from the results situations. People will say
stuff like Donald Trump had a great ad with transphobia
in it, and what a great ad. I listen, I can't.
I don't agree with it, but a great ad. Show
me the person whose mind was changed. Where's the numbers.
We're not keeping track of this, we have no way

(19:57):
to know. We just say is it worked, because we.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Just we we're.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Making a connection of people are transphobic to this transphobic
ad works, to which I would say people are transphobic
full stop. We're giving credit to an ad. And it's
just the way that political punditry, political advertising, people, consultants,

(20:24):
it's how they justify their job.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
They're not going to ever say it didn't work.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I've seen great ads on both sides, but no one
ever when no one stopped and said, you know what,
so and so lost an election, but their ad game
was fucking pretty tight. No one ever says that we
work backwards. Whoever one must have had the best ads.
So if the ads was just a picture of the

(20:48):
other candidate with shit coming out of their ass and
onto their face, we're like, that must have been a
great ad. But I don't know that the ads, I
don't know that the money donations, I mean, I'm not
saying don't do it. I'm not saying they don't help
in some ways that like just grease the wills of like, hey,
we want we need to pay for travel, we need
to pay our volunteers. But this, you know, this idea

(21:11):
that it's just like, spend this much money win the election.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I think that idea should die. I don't think it's true.
You know mal Donnie and what he's doing in New
York right now. I just I think the people always speak. Now,
if the people don't feel inspired, it is an emotional thing.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
There is something there.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
But I don't know that an ad does it now,
especially now when we are so siloed that we're not
necessarily even having the same experience. Yeah, you watch your
local news and you see some ads, but a lot
of people don't even watch their local news. Nope, you've
streamed something on Hulu and you see some political ads
in your area, but in another area of the country
they're not seeing those ads at all, or they're seeing

(21:54):
the other candidates ads, or they pay the extra three
dollars and they don't see ads.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
I won't see no hands, right, so I.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Don't I don't actually know that what what are those
things really work? But yeah, she.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Also says I'm gonna start checking out those animes. I'm
never watched anime, girl, but I'm interested based on the
comments here. Not sure if you saw this, but my
daughter just got into K pop Demon Hunters on Netflix,
and I gotta admit it, slaps. I'm rocking out to
soda pop now. This was my gateway in the K pop.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I guess I started that one. It's actually it actually
looks really really fun. It's bright, it's colorful. If you
love K pop, you would actually really enjoy this. Like
I said, I haven't got that deep into it, but
it was like no one of them two on Netflix.
I turn on, I mean on, I won't say yeah
it was Netflix if I'm not mistaken, And it was
just like everywhere, and I kept saying, oh, let me

(22:44):
check this out. So that right there is good the
thing about anime. Whatever you like in like real life,
it's anime on it. So just kind of you're not
just funny. If you want to get introduced, just be
like Mystery Crimes anime, they'll come up like whatever you like,
it's the animation on it.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
All right.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
And then we got YouTube comments, which I didn't read
any of yet, so I'm just sawing that somebody had
or comment that got three replies. I'm like, oh damn
dark namda emojis. Then another excellent feedback show. Thanks, thank you, buddy, Joseph,
says Rod. I can certainly say that it was gender
sensitivity and ego for me. Also, so Joseph must have
been the person that wrote in about like, why are

(23:25):
you correcting, Karen.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I'm a fairly new listener.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I can admit that I did see you all through
the lens of my own trauma and distrust.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
At first.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
The person who recommended y'all to me reassured me, and
I continue to watch, so I now know that you
both love and like each other and yourselves enough to
never diminish anyone, nor allow anyone to diminish you. I
also think people sometimes attach our value of being right,
because that is how we earn various rewards throughout life.
So when we perceive someone's points being questioned or challenge,
sometimes we think the challenger is coming for their value.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Shit, that's deep, that's deep, and that is true.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yes, yes, yeah, like and and the thing is it's
human nature to get want those rewards, a good girl,
good boy type of thing. To feel like you're fighting
on somebody else behalf, you know, because some people they're fighters.
Like this is what I do. If I see something
that I think this is wrong, I feel like I

(24:18):
need to fight for this person, kind of regardless if
they ask for me to fall on their behalf or not.
So baby like, I get that. And also shout out
to you, I appreciate you for writing back in because
a lot of times people leave comments like this and
we don't ever hear from them again. So I appreciate
you writing back in and kind of you know, explaining
yourself because you know, we've been doing this for a
long time, and everybody's human beings, so we understand that.

(24:41):
You know, our relationship is very different, and you know
we are very we're very loving couple and things like that.
And you know a lot of people when they see
certain things, particularly between men and women and interactions, like
you say, people's past traumas, be it their family members,
be it something they personally went through or whatever. You know,
these things can jump up out of you. So I bet, baby,

(25:02):
I get it. It it It's a natural response.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
And also, like, I love what you said about the
the value system of it because I I think about
this a lot, how especially in America, but probably it's
probably everywhere. But intelligence is treated with the scarcity mindset,
meaning like there they can't we we have to have
a hierarchy and an order of intelligence, meaning I can't

(25:29):
have a conversation with you where we both walk away
and go, well, they made good points. I made good points,
but we just arrived at different inclusion.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
No, I have to beat you.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, I gotta have to win.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, I have to win.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
You have to Someone has to acknowledge they lost this
exchange somehow. There can't be more than one type of
intelligence in the conversation. So if you're speaking from a
quote unquote logical place of intelligence and someone else is
speaking from an emotional place of intelligence, both those can't
exist in the same conversations like no, no, no, no, one.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Of these has to have a hierarchy over the other.
That kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
And you know, I always think about this thing I
wrote for Game Theory when I was applying for that job,
and I wrote about you know, it was about Kyrie Irvan,
but the.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Rich.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
The final point of it was sometimes we're like, this
person is the smartest person in the classroom because they
got the highest grade on the SAT or whatever, and
we go that person is smart, and we all agree
they're smart. But then there's like some shit where like
everybody's kind of smart. So like when you cross the street,

(26:38):
you should look both ways before crossing, Yes, you should.
Now that's not a only the smartest person will do that.
Everyone should do that, and it is smart. The few
people who don't do it we're looking at like, damn,
that's dangerous, that was risky, that was dumb.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
So what I'm saying is like, if you.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Don't approach uh intelligence with a scarcity mindset, there's no
need to like beat people. We all hope we all
look both ways before across the street when we get
on these microphones, we're all hoping that we're making good
points that are intelligent that we will be able to
convey to an audience that isn't necessarily here with us.
So we're trying to be explaining and uh, you know,

(27:22):
and concise, but also like thorough and so yeah, sometimes
it helps when you have a co host who can.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Stand in for the audience and be like, hey, what
do you mean?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Because if I'm confused, Karen's confused, If Karen's confused, I'm confused,
like it's the audience is confused, like it's we don't
not everything.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Because there's a lot of conversations we.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Could have just never tip y'all in on, and it
would just sound like me and Karen having a husband
wife conversation. Y'all be like, I don't even know what
the fuck they were talking about. But you know that's
not the show. We have to convey some things to
the audience.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, And also it's one of those things where we
live in a society where truth be so particularly with
social media and a lot of these I get it, y'all,
but a lot of these I'm never wrong, I never forgive.
I'm petty type of people that shit has rolled over
into other genres. And so when you have two people

(28:17):
that are talking to each other. I know, I don't
know everything. I know, I'm not the smartest person in
the room. I will admit that I'm wrong. But a
lot of people in those groups those things that are
opposite of what those things stand for. And so when
people look at us, they're bringing a lot of this
trauma and drama and shit to us. Enable us to
reflect those values back out, and then I think that

(28:39):
there's something wrong with us when we don't.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, And one thing I've learned is how to put
up boundaries around that. You know, I'm not responsible for
the trauma that other people have gone through. I'm not
responsible to navigate my world based on your trauma. I
don't even know what yours is. I don't know what
the impact has been in your life, right, I'm just
here to try to be respectful in the community, okase
as clearly as possible. If you can't take it, that's fine,

(29:02):
go find something else. You know that, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah. And also I think, particularly with me and the
thing is because like you say, men and women, husbands,
why people hear certain things? I interrupt you way more
and truthfully, if people listen to the show, not I
interrupt you way more than you interrupted me. I ask
you to explain shit way more than you ask me
to explain shit, because a lot of times you're talking,

(29:28):
and I'm not trying to be funny. You use big
words sometimes and sometimes I don't really understand, So I'll
be like, Hey, what does that word mean? So I
can get the context of what you're explaining, because I
know if I'm asking, somebody else would like to know
it too, because sometimes they're just maybe maybe they just
might be words foreign to me because we have all
have had life experiences and all have had different things,

(29:49):
and so you know, I am the type of person
be kind of back to child because the way I
grew up, I want you to explain to me. So
if something happened, we turn these mics off, I want
to be able to re urgitated again and be able
to have and be able to know that I truly
understood what you meant, versus like a lot of people
uh huh uh huh uh huh uh uh huh uh
huh and then don't know what the fuck you told them?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, And then like and there's nothing that can be
done about it, really, because like you know, there's times
when you're explaining stuff and people are on YouTube looking
at my face and and and like projecting onto me
like oh, he wants her to shut up, he hates
when she talks. I'm like that, that's something in you
missing because it's not me and listening. Yeah, this isn't like,

(30:32):
this isn't a TV show. We haven't been coached by actors.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
It's not a multi camera.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Set up where no training. I'm sorry, y'all.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, what y'all are seeing is me listening. You know,
I'm supposed to be looking at the camera like yes, interesting, wow, yes,
having the coaching class. And meanwhile I'm producing the show
as well. We don't have a producer. So I'm reading
the next comment, I'm looking at the next segment, I'm
looking at the time, I'm checking the recording.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Like a lot is happening.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
So Kim Doc says, reply to this breaking with you
breathing Oh, because they said everybody breathe with me.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Lol.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I appreciate you, Joseph. Like Karen said, it was very
nice of you to write back in.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Most people.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Either don't write back in at all, or you know,
some of them A lot of times, well not a
lot of times, but some of them even get offended
and shit, and it's like, yeah, especially if I didn't
say or do anything to offend you. In my opinion,
Kim Doc says, breathing with you, Rod and Karen, I
actually love when they get to explain the flesh out
things when I also have questions in my mind listening

(31:31):
to listening to them for all these years, I don't
have to wonder about the heart and passion they have.
It's a shared and Kendred bond that I think the
Blackout audience and family share. And that's even when we
might disagree. Yeah, because it's not disagreeing. Isn't the problem
just to be disrespected?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Really?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
And of course, you know, listening is important because and
the reason I think listen is important is because a
lot of times it's not even when people disagree, it's
that they misunderstood. And you know, and you know what
helps people not misunderstand clarification. Yes, And so if you
don't see clarification as an attack, it actually saves time.

(32:10):
I would say the majority of time when people ask
about some sort of clarification or something in the show.
I'll even say it in real time where I'm like,
I want this clarified so we don't get somebody misunderstanding later.
I may even understand it right now, but I'm like,
I know a motherfucker later because we've always had it.
People are listening on their phones, they're driving their work,

(32:32):
and they're barely paying attention. Then they write in going
off and it's like that didn't happen. Bella Bell Q
five T responded, I get that you like the show,
but I don't get how you all don't see that
Rod goes off on everyone who writes in that shares
any critique of him or this show, even if it's

(32:52):
fair to dedicate a weekly show to feedback just to.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Call people motherfuckers or yell for however long.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Really see prime example, prime example, prime example.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Shit it does not happen. Shit that did not happen.
Right hoping to.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Get me to go off or get some type of
emotional response, then maybe pick through feedback and only share
those that favor like he does the reviews. Once again,
I've read every comment, including this comment. Now that being said,
I do not mind being like, oh the high this
user from channel don't read this review because I'm not

(33:28):
gonna I'm this is not the whipping post. Nope, I
will never be on here like getting disrespected and creating
all content. All replies the same. Some replies are literally
just low quality.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yes they are.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
They just want to get a response.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
This person right here making up shit of you know,
people that don't even listen to this show, racist people,
people that disrespect caring to hope to get a rise
out of me. Yes, that kind of stuff. We've been
doing this sixteen years, homie. That kind of stuff happens
over the years, and so we've adjusted our feedback.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Now.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
What people aren't used to is that y'all listen to
mostly low quality shows who are just happy to have
some response, some something to go off on. We don't
actually need anybody to say anything negative for us to.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Have a good show.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Agreed.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
We make a living off of this and we're gonna
be just fine.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
So if the critique is fair, if it is like
as you implied, that, it could be fine. But if
it's just lying and like everyone who has a critique
Roders called the motherfucker, then I know that you're not
a righteous person and that you're just like a person
that want to be hidden from the channel. So you
get to continue to say stuff. No one's gonna ever
see it again. But like, congrats and shout out to

(34:44):
Joseph who did reply to this. We can agree to
disagree because you're right. I don't see that he goes
off on everyone who has a critique. I also don't
see that he picks through the comments. Seem like he
reads all of them. Thank you, Joseph, you do.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
And also something that I realized and people, it's hard
people to understand just like you're human and you're hearing
what we say. When you guys write in, we're reading shit.
And I don't know why people do not expect us
to have feelings and have comments on the things that

(35:19):
you write into us. It's almost like they're surprised that
we say something and it's not loving and glowing just
because you walked your ass.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Students honestly don't caring.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I think I think that's given them too much credit
because a person like that unless they are not a
smart person, right, And I would say that kind of
person is typically not a good faith person. And I
would say most of the time, if there's ever a
comment that where it's like, man, they went off on

(35:51):
that comment, I would say it's because we sensed it's
not good faith, not because it was disagreeing, because it's
not good right, saying every week disagreeing about shit.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Everyone who writes in has.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Put out disagreements, just they have some and many sean
uh who we joke back and forth, you know, like
it's like it's not just you have to write in
and agree, but it's when you're like, they expect a
nice response. I don't think they do. I think even
that person that just wrote that was hoping to.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Prove their point. Yes with me being like.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
You motherfucker, Oh how can you write in? But then
write the fuck you bitch or whatever? Like something they need,
there's a that's something in it. I found this in
my lifetime. I'm not a mean person, but I also
will stand my ground on people, and I won't like
mince my words, right, and I'm pretty accurate and concise

(36:48):
with my language in a way that it is cutting
to people, if not necessarily that the goal is to
cut you. But but I'm saying if the goal is
to cut you, I'm gonna to cut you if it's
gonna make some people feel bad, because I'm not backing
down I'm not pulling my punches, and I know in
general a lot of people, I'd say most people kind

(37:10):
of do, especially those who want to be like more
progressive liberal people they pride themselves on, like.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Well, listen, all criticism is valid. If that's how you feel,
then that you know, then your feelings are valid. And
I'm a person's like, no, that's not and what you
said didn't happen, And people will really have their feelings hurt.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
I used to go back and forth with people back
in the day, write emails and stuff. But that's when
I used to think there was like a convincing of people.
But I realize over time, like, no, some people are
just this way. They like negative attention if they can't
get any other attention.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Agreed, But you know me, you know my motto.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
I want to make my mom a proud. You guys
are not doing anything with your life. You may not
see it, but I'm trying to do I'm trying to
accomplish something. You guys are preventing me from that. All
y'all haters, Like I'm trying to accomplish my dreams. If
you don't like me, just block me.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
I didn't do anything to you. It's that simple shout
out to that white girl Lovely Land ninety six.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
That is excellent podcast. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
The Girl on the Other Side of the Road said,
when Rod didn't ask Karen to clarify about the hot
dog toppings, and when Rod asked Karen to clarify her answer,
so it's like and the emojis are like fighting emojis.
So it's like when Rod doesn't didn't ask Karen to
clarify about a hot dog topics, everybody was ready to
fight me. And then when when I did ask her, like, well,

(38:39):
can you what did you mean by that? It's dad
they ready to fight me again. It's like, like, how
can I always be a fighting.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Oh baby? Oh? To go back to what you were
saying before too, about you know, people in their personalities
and things like that, and and and when you were
saying how you're very plain and and kind of I
personally call it flat footed, you know, maybe because I'm
old with with how you feel, like this is how
I feel blah blah blah blah blah. I'm I am

(39:09):
to the point where I like for people to tell
me how they feel about things. And we live in
a society where everybody wants everything sugar coated everything, won't everything,
bubble wrapped everything, won't everything to make them motherfucking feel good.
I rather you tell me you don't like me, so
we both know where we stand. I rather you like
like like like, like, let's cut through the muck and

(39:31):
the mire and the bullshit. Most people are used to
people who they like the back and forth, they like
the jousting, and you're like, no, we're not doing this.
This is how I feel, and that's it. And a
lot of times people aren't used to telling people really
how they feel, because when most people have conversations with people,
they're not actually telling the truth a lot of times.
And so when you're like, this is how I feel,

(39:53):
these are the opinions that I have, they're taking aback
because they're used to have, like you say, having those debates,
having that back and forth, to quote unquote have the conversation.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, with all the platitudes that to coming walk West.
I think also like we've been doing this a long time,
Yes we have. Like I lean on my sixteen years
of experience over any one comment, like I know when
somebody's being a fucker and when they're not like it,
and I don't know what to tell you, Like, very
rarely has it been like a damn man, I think

(40:25):
I went too far. I what I will do for
my years of experience is cut people off down the
road where I'm like, I don't need to drive the
whole knowledge with you to know you were trying to
be a jerk. Right, I'm honestly not that bad compared
to I think many many other people. I think, what
and I'm not that vulgar and cutting people out? What

(40:46):
if you really pay attention. I rarely name Paul, Right,
it's very rare that I name call people motherfuckers and
pieces of shit all that. That's not even to me,
that's not if I was trying to hurt your feelings.
Those aren't the hurtful things I said. I know that
they conveyed disrespect, but I think what's hurtful is being accurate.
Like accuracy is way more hurtful than your bitch or whatever.

(41:09):
Like I'm sure we all do it, we get mad
their stuff, but like when something, at least in my life,
the things that stuck with me is insults are all
things where I'm like, shit, that was true and so
that's what I would aim to do if I was
aiming to insult you. What I think is funny is
I did not name call that person. The chat room
was named calling this person immediately, you know, So like,

(41:31):
I feel like i'd be pretty reasonable about this shit.
But once again I don't. I think you just now
are still giving these people too much credit the whole,
like they expect everyone to be nice.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
I don't think they do.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I really think a lot of times they anticipate getting
cussed out. Some people like the attention of getting cussed out.
They don't right now. They're not stupid enough to write
end in a way that will make me immediately dismiss
some or you immediately dismissed like they you know, they
wrote in, Hey I hate Rod and Karen is a bitch,

(42:08):
Rod is gay, blah blah blah. We're not even gonna
read that comment. It would never make it through to
the show. But if you write in and go and
just lie, every time somebody says something about the show,
they go off and Rod calls them motherfuckers, and they
always aiming at me. Rod calls them motherfuckers and all
this shit. Meanwhile, Karen conveys things with much more passion
and ferocity, and we'll call you a motherfucker bitch all

(42:29):
the time, and no one ever writes in about that.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Zero times in sixteen years has someone written in.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
They there's some sort of issue with me particularly, And
so I, you know, I just accept that this we
put our shit out here in the public, and that
people are allowed to comment, but but we just don't.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
I don't play the game.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
We don't play the game of all comments are equal,
all comments are welcome, all comments are fair. No, not
every listener is valuable, not every comment.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Trying to get every not.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Every critique is valuable or valid.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
And once you do away with that brainwash bullshit that
they tell people who are creatives, the world opens up
because you see yourself and you see the footsteps that
you want to take in front of you and the
path that you're on, and you can walk with clarity
instead of just trying to you know, do this.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Happy to be here bullshit?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
To me, the worst type of people that podcasts are
the long as we get in comments, long as we
getting clicks, long as we get reviews, I don't care
if they hate me.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
To me, that's how you become a breakfast club.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Whereas like, long as people watch it, it doesn't matter
if they hate it, doesn't matter if they love it.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
They watch it, watch it.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
And yes, they are rich and they are powerful and
they are gonna be bigger and better than us in
many many ways that matter to capitalism and society. But
I'll sleep soundly tonight and never think about this comment
again because I know it's not true, and I know
I walk with clarity, and I think that's the difference.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
So I'm so up before we go on, what's really I.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Just want to know I was ready to move on now.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
The person that wrote this comment is gonna be like
they always go off and they keep talking. I just
want y'all know I'm ready go on, caring the one
coming back on, y'all.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Okay, she's not.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Letting it go now, y'all gonna right in next week
can be like Rod went off, Rod did not go off.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Rod did not go We did?

Speaker 3 (44:23):
This did turn into a ten minute tangent. And it's
because Karen's like, and before we move on, one more.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Thing, because she has a lot to say because it
bothers her too.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, y'all, can blame me. This is my fault.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
I was gonna say, it's not a blame thing.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I'm just pointing out what's happening in real time so
that when the next asshole right saying what Rod calls
everybody the motherfucker, and he goes off and he won't
move on while you got.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
A feedback show.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
If you can't take criticism, just know that I've tried
to move on two to three times now. Karen keeps
going back and one more time because it bothers her
as well.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
And also the thing about it too is I think
because you're the man in this relationship or you know,
have the male energy in this relationship, people always assume
that men are angrier kind of than women. But truth
be told a lot of times. Like I said, I'm

(45:22):
very passionate and I have very strong emotions about a
lot of things. And the thing is I am, actually,
I don't want to say meaner than Rod, but you
know the way mine angerish is released is very different
than Rod, you know, And so you know, between the
both of us, I rather not try funny, y'allol, Rather

(45:44):
him be mad than me me mad? You don't want
me mad? I that's just I just know my personality.
So you know a lot of the times people target
like try to hit me the target rod, But I
just let that happen because I understand for a lot
of people, I an afterthought. Now, unless you're a real
fan of the show and you appreciate me and what
I bring to the show, you completely understand. But like

(46:07):
right said, we've been doing this for a very long time,
so we just about any tactic that you can use.
Underneath the Sun we have seen it.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Lovely listens, excellent podcast. Thank you. Oh wait, no, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Meeks seventy six says I guess I'm one of the
ones that because I never had a pawn something but
shout out to the inflation in Trump's tariffs, I may
be just end in my street. It's also a shame,
but very indicative of the time that we can't just
see clarifications or corrections for what it actually is. Trump
and his ilk have gotten to us to a place
where disagreement or point of clarification is seen as aggressive

(46:41):
or dismissive. As you pointed out, this is an unscripted conversation,
so it's not going to be perfect. Hence they need
to clarify. Also, if everyone listens all the way to
the end, you both end with I love you. That
is intentional anyone. Thanks anyhow, thanks again for making the
time to do this podcast.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
M I agree with both Rod and Karen that there
was no correction, just a request for colaborication, which was achieved.
It's so crazy that the person who wrote in originally
is the one who wrote back like, oh yeah, I
see what y'all saying, and it made me do some
introspection and uh, yeah I have I may have this
is because of other things that and then there's someone like, no,

(47:20):
it is not.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
That all right, Kim Doc says, that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Uh this.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I have to say that when having a conversation with
my girlfriend, I think I'm being clear and I'm cooking,
and she'll ask me to drill down on something I've
just thrown against the wall, and I go into a shell.
What you're talking about is truly helpful to me. I'm
always like, well, damn, why can't you let that point cook?

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Why you got to ask questions? Lol? Completely ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
But I'm also not used to people thinking asking deeper
questions and interrogating why I and I think that cut
off for some reason. Normals it's like Ali, but it's not.
But then she did right back. I forgot to say,
my girlfriend hit me with a web. Well, you want
to just have super surface conversations, let me know. I
was upset, but I took a step back and we

(48:06):
had a better understanding of the topic and where we
both were coming from. The conversation was about black people resting.
I kept saying, when the hell are we ever going
to get off of the mat though?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Damn lol.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I'm still conflicted about about it, but I think the
election and the way it appears certain groups voted with
such a betrayal. Also know it gets violent as fuck
when we do step up and come to the front.
But let's be real. These white leg protests, ain't it man? Man,
I don't know. I'm out of the pro protest stuff.
Ain't my business, it really ain't. I wasn't out there

(48:37):
for none of the.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Protests, so it's not.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
However, y'all want to direct them, fine, maybe they'll listen
to the white folks.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
I don't know. I walked through the park the other
day and I've seen some white.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
People older, well, some older people, mostly women and mostly white,
but they weren't all white, they weren't all older, and
they weren't all women. So it was all kinds of groups,
but mostly an older white women crowd. And it was
like the women legal voters for Charlotte, and they were
organizing one of those like go protests, like going inside
the street with your signs, you know, no kings type thing,

(49:08):
and honestly, man, it made me smile. I was proud
of them. I was thankful for them. I really think
it's important that we walk around with that, because that's
what's gonna take is this backseat criticizing and taking away
the momentum people that actually are put in there. They're

(49:29):
putting their freedom on the line. I think I'm not joking.
I don't think I'm being hyperbolic. And with this administration,
I don't care what race.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
You are, what gender you are.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
I think when you go out there on the front
lines of a protest, you are actually putting your freedom
at risk. I don't think this is not an administration
that plays.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
By the rules.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
They've already imprisoned people who've protested in the United States
and done it illegally. Like done it without any justification,
lied about it, so I won't down play their courage
and strategy, and honestly, I hope it works. And most
of these people probably voted the right way and did

(50:06):
all the right things. So I don't have anything to
ask of these people that they haven't already done.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
So congrats to them.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
And I don't know about the black people stuff, Honestly,
I really don't know. I haven't looked into it enough
to have any real concrete proof that black people are like,
straight up, there's nothing we would protest right now, or
that black people are like.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
No longer care whatever.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Everything I see with that is from the internet, and
so I have to be careful with social media because
social media escalates and.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
The descent and.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Divide sometimes in a way that isn't necessarily proportionate to
real life. So like I'll see a video on a
protest and it'll be a black person recording from their
card doing I ain't going out there something, and then
it'll be shared millions of times, and I'm like, was
that every black person in LA or was that one

(51:06):
black person that got shared a million times? Once again,
I'm not giving any conclusive I just don't know how
to feel. I'm like, maybe that is how it is
out there right now. It's just gonna be like this
and it sucks. Or maybe like there's black people in
those protests and it's just not black lead.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Agreed by the way, carrying the liquid death water is
just it's just water. But there's something about water from
aluminum can that I really like, can't explain it.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
It's the seven dollars price tag.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I guess, oh, okay. I remember the first time because
it was the people talking about liquid depth. I was like,
that don't and then I was like, it's water because
I used to see the cans when they first started
coming here and I was like, the fuck is this
is this alcohol? Yeah, dreaking this.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
It bothered me because I went to get water at
a comedy venue and from the bar and they did
not They did not have water like bottled water.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
They would not give me bottled water. They wouldn't give me.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Even a cup of water. And I'm like, but I
would like water. That was like, we got liquid death
and they didn't explain it was water. I was like,
they just put a candle liquid death on the counter
for like seven dollarss, like what I don't want alcohol?
I want then there's like it is water and that's
how I found out.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Okay, see, I'm glad I'm not the only one that
this sounds like alcohol. I was like, the fuck is that?

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah, I mean it's promoted that way and everything. I
think that's part of the point. But yeah, shout out
to you your girlfriend. I think I think it's so
interesting because obviously we all walk around with our own trauma,
but when someone asked you to explain to clarify, that's
not supposed to be an attack, especially from coming from
a person that loves you and.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Is acting in good faith.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I think there's nothing that shows more love then I
actually care what you think about this on a level
that's deeper than just what you said.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I would like you to drill down on it because
I want to.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I want to like incorporate it into my thoughts and
my being and my feelings about you. Is I'm not
just saying I think one of the most funny funny
things is how people will politely dismiss and not pay
attention to folks, but because it's happened in a polite way,

(53:16):
they think it's caring where to me, I'm like, oh,
that person didn't even hear what that person said.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
They don't give a fuck what they just said.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yeah, you know, And so it's you know, hopefully they're
listening and actively listening in a way that would make them,
you know, you want to like explain it because they
do want to know.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Right And I also, I think when I realized this,
when most people are having a conversation, even with people
that they love, for most people, they're not actually listening.
They're just waiting for you to stop so that they
can feel in their comments like you know, but when
you're actually listening listening, it slows shit down, and people

(53:54):
do not like that part of like like that part
of having a real conversation. Like you said, we understand
and bad faith that there's YadA YadA, YadA, but we're
talking about somebody asks you to clarify this, actually not.
Their purpose is not to fucking attack you. Their purpose
is not I got you like. Their purpose is I
want to understand you better as a human being. You know,

(54:15):
I want to get closer to you because I love
you and I care about your thought process and I
want to know how did you come to this conclusion.
What were the things that contributed to it? Like, like
like fundamentally who you are? Because you know, when people
come up with these ideas and these thoughts, they don't
come out of the blue. They have things attached to them.

(54:36):
So a lot of time people ask for clarification. Sometimes
they want to know the things that are attached, the
deeper meaning behind the words that are coming out of
your mouth. I think some people are used to talking
and not explaining, and then when they explain, they going
to panic mode. And I this is what I realized.
If you say something and you are flat footed on
it and it's foundational to you and it's truthful to you,

(54:59):
you will be able to explain yourself. If you say
something and it's based off of the Internet, or it's
based off other people's opinions and it's not based off
of who you fundamentally are, you will not be able
to explain yourself.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Also, like I think another thing people aren't used to,
Especially for me, I do very little thinking it through
live on the podcast. When I do, I try to
make note of it. Like, guys, I'm thinking this through.
I'm not really sure that I have a point yet.
Like I'm working on this as I'm talking, but vast

(55:33):
majority of time, because I'm an overthinker, I've already come
to my conclusion. So I think sometimes people are like
they see an opinion, and especially when they don't agree
with it's like, how.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Do I challenge it?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
And I've thought of the challenges, and so I think
that throws people off too, to be like, how can
he be so you know, how can he be so
sure of his opinions? Like, Oh, it's not I'm only
telling y'all for the first time. This is your first
time hearing it. You're probably not gonna come up with
a point where I'm like, damn, didn't even think about that,
like more times or not. I did think about it.

(56:04):
I might not have arrived to the conclusion you wanted
me to, but I did consider it.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
I just don't want to do it the way you want, right.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
And also, like I said, I think for me because
we have a trust with each other, and you know,
when we ask these things, like you say, it's not
coming from a malicious place or anything like that. That's
why I'm very open with it. And if I don't know,
but I don't know, you know, And not knowing is okay?
Is okay?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Not the end of the world, right, you know, especially
when it's emotional stuff, right, Sometimes it's not.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
It's not a good there's no good answer.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Sometimes Eric says, good to see you with the other,
with our other Karen. First time watching YouTube, I usually
just listen to the pod. I like how Karen, my
wife has become the other Karen to the Karen Hunter fans.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
I don't mind being the other Karen.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Do you have an emotional support podcast? You listening to?
You listen to?

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Eighty one percent said yes, not ten percent say no.
All right, let's play some commercials. Has been long enough.
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Where my money at you?

Speaker 7 (57:10):
What you talking about it?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Last?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
The next episode is thirty one Coplay, Canodle and Cheating
CEO canceled.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Man.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
I've just said the thirteen party system version of both
sides are the same. Is all politicians lie anyway? And
I'm not voting because in Germany they got thirteen parties,
So yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Knew there was.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
There's a type of person that is going to always
say it's all bullshit, whether they're lazy, uninformed, ignorant, whatever,
and they're gonna always make it everyone else's fault. I
truly do think, and I, of course, in this time
it feels weird to say, but I truly do think
the two party system in America leaves no fucking excuses.

(58:17):
You're just a bad person. You don't care, and you're
a bad person.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Like who could look at these two choices and think
they're equal weight or don't matter and won't to affect
people's lives.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
You just don't care about the people who lives are
the fact, and you're a bad person.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
There you go, Karen, I, as a teenager, Apia could
be panicking about old technology, just fine, looking at a
phone that didn't even that didn't ring, even if the
guy said he would call me and refuse to lead
the room in case it could ring. Exactly at the
time is a clear memory, but maybe just me. I
guess that was because we were talking about.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
The old song.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah, the songs with the old technology.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
I think that was the point of the.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Segment though, because we talked about genuine man genuine had
all that old technology.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
He was in the house mad.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
She ain't call him, so I ain't chances by the
name of the song.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
They won't gonna meet to eleven thirty, and he was
pissed off.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
At ten ten he was paiging where you been?

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah, Mary says right. I also prefer cardio with then
waits in that order. I've tried it the other way,
but it's much harder for some reason. Oh my god,
it's so harder. It's so much harder. I've done the like,
Like my trainer one time suggested, like, you know, if
you want to, you could like lift waights and then
go shoot around for like fifteen minutes. And I would

(59:38):
lift waights and then go in the gym to shoot around.
I couldn't even make it fifteen minutes, like because after
I had my legs on that sled and my arms
on the bench, and I was like, I was like,
this is impossible.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Who the fuck got fifteen minutes of this left?

Speaker 1 (59:51):
F on?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
You got ten five minutes and I'm ready to go.
But the other way, if I went in there and
shot around fifteen twenty thirty minutes even and then with
the lyft weights, it doesn't bother me lifting weights later.
But I feel like maybe the cardio gets you loose anyway,
maybe because there's no break when the cardio, but will wait.
You can take longer rest period if you need to.
That's true too. Anyway, I'm so inspired by you and

(01:00:13):
I'm cheering you on fro another coast. Thank you, Mary,
and you are inspirational as well. I always see her
out here running. Yes, you know, participating in these like
these caves, you know them fives from ten's and whatever,
all them k's so you know we're all doing it together.
Man shoe Boody says, ride. Don't tell your hydrate Amazon
scam out loud. Don't get gotten by big water, not

(01:00:37):
liquid death.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
They don't come get me, don't get you to take
you down.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I was waiting to hear Karen how that Karen inexplicably
got mac and cheese added to her Chinese fish.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I don't think they had it on them in you
at this time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Man Dovin knows, Daddy, said Nikki, taking a page from
the other famous narcissist, A fanatical hope that should be
called Mamra making Onika Minaj great again. Wait wouldn't that
be Margra Oh relevant? Oh they changed it the relevant again. Okay,
there you go, Mamra, I get it. Yeah, that's pretty funny.

(01:01:15):
Even he says, this episode came just in time. I
was just thinking about how some songs are so outdated.
I was listening to High Fives Quality time. There's a
line that goes, when my page goes off, I'll ignore, baby,
because I really want to be with you. No one
has a pager anywhere, except the con you get at
restaurants when you wait at tables. Even now, restaurants are

(01:01:35):
moving away from that because you can just give them
their phone number.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
They'll text you. Kids today will never know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Some doctors still happen. Other than that, most people do
not carry pages.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Nicki Minaj said, I mean Nicki Minaj is going outside, says,
but there's something I find interesting about our situation. When
people were coming at Aubrey and Wayne, she defended them
and has been very vocal by her supported them. But
whenever she gets into any kind of beef, I don't
hear from any of her crew. Sounds to me that
maybe she should stop being so pressed over Rock Nation
says and any other female rapper she hates and start

(01:02:06):
looking at her own camp. I think she's surrounded by
ops and that's probably why she's a paranoid.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Man. I don't know what's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Happening to that woman, But man, that's it's sad. I
was thinking about this the other day. Lil Wayne, Drake
and Nikki all that young money Triumvirent was like the
shit they were running rap.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
For a minute, Yes they were.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
And to see all of them kind of like slide
into the paranoid, hyper internet obsessed type of people and
all have their weird sort of like feedback loop with
the Internet, it's sad. Man Like Drake is obviously super

(01:02:49):
tapped it. He's streaming, he's doing He's a fucking streamer
at this point, like there's nothing more on the Internet.
Then you're doing streams instead of like releasing albums and
singles and you're stopping your tour and you're posting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
You forget that. He stopped his too and just never
came back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Passive regressive social media post blah blah blah. Meanwhile, you
know the guy that took him down, Kendrick is one
of the most let me keep my phone off ass
motherfuckers in the world who doesn't do any of this
stream like he's not he he destroyed Drake Drake's Internet
presence while not truly being an Internet presence. I still
think it's funny to go look at his Twitter account

(01:03:28):
and see, like the last year and a half is
just nothing but post of drop, this release that, here's
this album, here's this song, here's a YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
It's none of this, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I'm hanging out with y'all trying to convince y'all that
I'm the greatest.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
And don't have to I shouldn't have to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
So Drake, clearly he hangs out with and tries to
convince us he's the greatest. He really had wants to
have a strong presence with social media streamers like academics.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
And shit like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
It's very weird how tapped in he is. And I
get I get it because that's what won him the
battle against Meek Mill, but it's also what kind of
lost in the battle against pusha t Like the Internet
was like, nah, nigga, you can't run from this one.
So anyway, and then of course Lil Wayne the super
Bowl thing, well, he turned himself into a victim for

(01:04:17):
something that was never on the table.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Never on the table.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
No one was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Asking him or Young Money to represent the Super Bowl
in New Orleans. It's not a thing that happens where
like we always recognize the city that it's in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
It fummas all over the place for the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
And he let the internet drive that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
He let social media commentators drive him into a victim
mentality of like, I can't believe they did me like this,
And I was like, damn, that's some really sad loser shit.
He was making videos about it, sounding all Lil Wayne
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
You know, no, no har me to do. I'm like no.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
And then of course Nikki like the barbs have I mean,
at this point, who's driving that car? Heard the barbs?
Feel like the barbs drive Nikki, not the other way around.
And so many of them not even being black women.
It's like super weird and scary.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
But yeah, who would have saw that coming? That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
And I wonder how much of that is related to
that era of music in rap being extremely correlated with
cells and chart numbers in a way that a sort of, uh,
sort of took away the artistic quality and merit of

(01:05:36):
that art because what people would argue about was not
how good or bad a song was, how artistic or
interpolated or lyricism whatever. It just feels like, well, Drake
got seven number one hits this year.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
He's the best. You know, so and so Niki did this,
she's the best.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
And I wonder if because that is a quantitative and
a quantitative argument that leads to online almost like the
sports suffocation of arguments, whereas like Jordan won six championships,
Kobe won five, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
That kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I wonder if that created this navel gazing in those artists.
And they have to spiral out because no artist stays
on top forever. So when that next artist comes, or
when you have that lull or that period where you're
starting to fall off.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
You can't gracefully fall off. You can't just bow that
back and be like, all right, I guess I'm out
for a while. You you have never experience. You've always
been able to quantify your way out of things. Yes,
and you can't do that anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Push your t destroys you throughout the culture, but you
were able to quantify your way out, Like look at
these number one hits. Though well he does have no
one hits. I guess he's still a thing. And now
you don't have that argument because the hits ain't number one.
No more, people can pull up the Kendrick numbers, and
now it's looking worse for you, uh not to mention
with Nikki. I mean, so many women at this point

(01:07:05):
are on when she's not on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Yeah, man, I wonder.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
If they are just another victim of the Internet age,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
So it's one of them things too, where you know,
he's dropping things and people are People don't even talk
about him anymore, own me, no harm, not like they
used to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Yeah, I mean, even if they talk about it, that's
my point, right, that's my point though, even if they
are talking about it, we actually don't know that they're
not talking about it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
I'm saying, what used to matter was the number I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
See somebody yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, like the stream.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
It would being fair.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Drake used to drop shit all the time that my
people in my circle weren't talking about you know what
I'm saying. But would you go look at them numbers
and you're like, well, clearly somebody motherfucking.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Talking about it. It's number one. Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Now that they don't just have the BAM, I dropped
number one, everyone's afraid to put music out when I'm
putting music out Now that they don't have that, man,
they it's like they spiraled out into something like who
am I? How do I have to constantly attack people to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Prove who I am?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
They don't seem comfortable just being that. And the artists
that are that came up in an era before them,
that are a little bit older, that are starting to
make comebacks now, they do not seem to be this obsessed.
Meaning the clips got a number one album released last week,
but they're not.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
They don't seem pressed to be like, we're number one.
Look at our albumselves, look at our streams.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Obviously, nas jay Z has literally been like I'm good,
and I know people try to like dis some them
for that, but I think one a lot of those
people are like nas apologists as weirdos, which is I
won't even start on that we're so old, what is
wrong with you?

Speaker 7 (01:08:50):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
But but the thing that I'm like, no, I appreciate
him being like, I don't really have a thing to
say right now, and that's okay. My kids, I'm living life.
I'm being a dad, like I can always have this skill.
I'm sure I will rap again. Maybe at some point.
He didn't do an official I'm retiring thing like he

(01:09:11):
used to do all the time back in the day.
This might be the last one. He just he dropped
four forty four and just every once in a while
he'll do a feature or something, but he just played
the back and I'm like, right, because that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Happens when you're not that obsessed with the chart number.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
And Jay was a guy who I thought would spiral
out like that because he used to run the charts.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
It used to be this many summers in a row.
I was running the something like he.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Used to be like that, But he wasn't saying it
wasn't always this many summers I had the number one album.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
It was this many summers. I felt like I.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Ran the culture, which is a totally different argument than
I have the number one album.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I sold the most records. Is not that it's not related.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Like he does talk about sales, he does talk about charts,
but he wasn't just a it's because my album dominated
the chart.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
That's why I'm the man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
It was I'm the man, and because I'm the man,
the album dominated the charts. It's a slight, slight difference,
but it makes all the difference, and it's why a
guy like that can go I don't need to make
an album out the four forty four right away, Like
I can take five six, I can take however long
I want to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
I'll be fine when I come back.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Yeah, you will if I choose to come back right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
And meanwhile, I think Nikki, Wayne and Drake are three
prime examples of people that never felt they could take
tom off. They always felt like they That's why Lil
Wayne had thirty million mixed tastes. It's why you know,
like they Drake obviously like they can't. They they couldn't
stop swimming because like the illusion of I run the
game was that fragile, and look at him, they spiraled out.

(01:10:47):
Those are my hip hop thoughts. I keep experimenting with
this idea doing a hip hop podcast, probably like a
solo thing or something, but honestly, they just hold me up,
Like I keep trying to come up with the name,
and I'm like, not yet, that's not a good enough name.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
But I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it for
those that are interested in that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Sean says, in regard to the old technology, and Larric's
one of my students, put together a simple lesson what
he used Bruno Mars's Lazy song for a translate and
discuss activity to translation for don't feel like picking up
my phone, so leave a message at the tone were wild?

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
That song was from twenty ten.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Damn wow, Yeah, I guess technology has advanced that fast.
It's the hass YouTube ramsey pH Dunes has five stars.
I look forward to both of the bad term politics
till we get mad segments. The Girl on the Other
Side of the Road says, gay men love Nikki, like
if you ever met a gay man, there's a high
chance there Nikki fan is not only white guys, but
all gays. Many of them aren't teenagers too, Like there

(01:11:49):
are barbs over thirty and we now, and we now
because at the time of Megan versus Nikki, when the
bars were docksing people, some people docked them back and
found these were grown men, and some of them when
we're using their jobs to docs people.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Yeah and oh, she means we know, but yes, I agree.
But my okay, my point isn't that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Her fans aren't like gay men, they aren't black or whatever,
because I think we both agree that. I'm saying, who
are the harassers? I wonder because and look online, I
don't have any proof to back this up.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
This is completely.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
A anecdotal, evidence based feeling, meaning I just see shit
sometimes and be like, look at this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
That's but it feels in a weird way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Like no one that cared about her as a black
woman in our culture would lead her down this road
or destruction. And it feels very white to me. It
feels transactional. It feels like she's not that's not real
that they love her, you know what I'm saying that,
But that's just me I feel, and that's how I've

(01:13:02):
that's how I've experienced blackness, and that when black people
care about somebody in their art, they're not trying to
get them to destroy themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
No, that's the last thing they want.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
And this feels like they want her to destroy herself
and they enjoy the spiral outs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
They enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
And I don't know, that feels very white to me,
like art, Like that's the kind of feeling you have
when this ain't your culture, Like there's no consequence to me,
I'm going back to being white after this woman does
whatever she does, and so she's Maggan. Now I'm gonna
support that. And maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there's a bunch
of black gay maga dudes too. But I feel like

(01:13:40):
the maga shit for a lot of black people, whether
they gay, whether they like divas or not, it would
be enough for them to be like, uh uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Yeah, I don't support that, right, I do not anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
She also said whoever stole Beyonce's unreleased songs should definitely
not put it on YouTube and tag me. Uh so
it said, all thirteen sides of the same started laughing.
Dark Damn just said escape rooms. TKG says CEO, no shuffle,
the CEO, no shuffle, and Rod said, Jason Rod, you

(01:14:14):
are so right about how they would have they would
treat the third political party if it ever happened. If
you're not bright enough to be able to pick between
Trump and Kamala, the last thing you need is more options.
Try reason the game, trop break beating the game on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Easy first right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Also, I love to know the plain the platform of
this mystical third party. We believe in climate change, hate trades,
people believe black lives matter, but not on the weekends
right now, explained like, and I've never seen anyone successfully
be able to tell me what a third party platform
that would get all of us to the table is

(01:14:49):
not once, not once, because once once you have to
start doing actual work that's beyond your work, actual work,
that is beyond saying we're all angry at the system.
You and you have this, okay, so what's the solution.
That's when you start losing people. It's right there, like,
it's why Bernie concentrates so much.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
On the rich people. The rich people to rich people
that won't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Present the billionaires because we can all agree like, yeah,
that's terrible. But then the second we get even a
one level below that, we're like, so, what we're gonna
do about racism?

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Well, that's our identity politics? WHOA what? WHOA?

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Come on man, that's affecting my economy right. Well, you know,
if someone wants to do have abortions and not like
them legal in their state, that's okay, as long as
there before against the billionaires, like what you're gonna lose
people with that now because you had to make a choice,
and that's what the other parties have had to do

(01:15:45):
and no one wants to cop to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Well that's the reason there they.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Can't be uh the most popular and well liked this
because they had to make choices. You either have to
choose we're protecting trans people and trans girls and all
this stuff, or you say we're not.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
That's those are the choices.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Those are the there's no third option.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
And you once you say that, you start losing people.
Uh and Karen, I love when you and relate to
your second degree empathy. Anybody can be out here feeling
for the victims of actual car accident.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
Queen Karen goes a step further.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
She empathizes not only with them, but also the people
who are affected by the traffic.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
I like how you said, not only with them, she skipped.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Past it and thank you something I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Trying to reframe it. She didn't care about them people.
She didn't even sco oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Okay, Then the people who are short handed on their
jobs because those people were stuck at traffic.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
It's like derivative empathy. Empathy. Queen Karen is doing the
calculus empathy night never change you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
I'm glad you get me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Okay, all right, all right, the Poe was shit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Concert sporting events stopped the kiss cav seventeen percent say yes,
eighty three percent say no. I went to eighty three percent.
Keep the kiss cam going. Not my fault, y'all cheating right,
keep it going? If anything, now that we know some
people getting caught cheating, turn that bitch up.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Let's get an extra minute of kiss cam. We might.
I want to be at one of these.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Games, right, we might. We might catch one that we
might catch on at the Honeys game.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
I want to see somebody get exposed.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
You know they doing at the Honeys game in Roger
been there before that night. Random to put the camera
on your all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Don't give me no kiss cam behind the kids cam
where I can.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Control who gets them on the screen. I'm causing chaos.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
There's nothing but two men to just put all men
together on the kiss camn let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Who who are here?

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Gay?

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Who just friendsh Let's find out? All right, y'all, let's.

Speaker 8 (01:17:36):
Uh, we're gonna get into the third episode, but I'm
gonna play music for a second and get something to drink,

(01:18:14):
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
The last episode was thirty one thirty hundred Talking that
talk rode around for us, says Hunter Biden could sit
next to me at the cookout.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
He was me and I was him in that interview.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Get this man a shot of alcohol free hennessy, he.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Is welcome to the cookout. Him and his daddy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Don't charge him, you know, some Hennessy rate So Sean says, Wait,
I thought it was Rod's job to hand out the past
to the cookout all willy nilly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
I'm just I'm just officially acknowledging they gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
I guess they're gonna be there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Classic RB lover says when Karen said very black, she's
very black. During that Guess the race segment, I nearly
choked on the cherry I was eating, my thought being
what the hell does that mean? I low key think
that might be the most racist comment I've ever heard
during the segment, and that includes the comments from the
people in the chat.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
I agree. I was disgusted.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
I am disgusted. FYI.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
I wanted to make sure you know I meant this
as a joke. The laughing moojis did not populate when
my comment was saved. Yeah, for some reason, I couldn't
do laughing emojis, but we knew it was a joke.
Come on, Shoe Booty says point three blood alcohol. That's
the drunkest I've ever heard of. She is not okay,
Sean says originally from Wisconsin, so no stranger to the

(01:19:33):
point three one squash that drunk himbo take fifteen minutes
trying to get his Birken stop back on before walking off.
A minute later he was driving buying a car. Apparently
driving a car is less complex to the drunk than
mine to the drunk line than driving. I hope he
didn't kill anyone. For reference, blood alcohol point three to
point four generally renders non Wisconsin nights unconscious. Point four

(01:19:58):
higher can result in death. The high I've heard of
his point six five who well they are superhero called
alcohol man.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
How the fuck are you living with point sixty five?

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Your blood is straight alcohol? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
That niggas blood was like forty proof.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
He was cutting himself and continue to be drunk, and
it's just proof. He tapped his finger like it was
like when you do a blood test and he just
will sip on it as he was driving, like gotta
keep staying drunk. IBB just says nothing says, nothing to
see here better than sending Congress home for summer. Right,
even he says with aut the shenanigans going on in

(01:20:37):
the world, especially involving politics, even the white people. News
hasn't been hitting like it has in the past. That's
not saying I'm not enjoying it. I just think that
white people seem to be going through it as lately
as well. All these white celebs dropping dead, Ben Affleck
trying to get that old thing back with the other
Jennifer and they're saying enough himself a Jennifer Oni, and
they're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Superman is two old. Phil Collins is in hospice, and
they say King is sick. What do white people have
to believe anymore? Praying for them? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Yeah, I didn't even know about the almost be the
risk oft Yeah, I didn't know about the feel Collins thing.
I feel bad for all the people that were stuck
in traffic.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Sean says. The idea about a survey of people who
personally know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Members there what I'm just saying, people probably stuck in traffic.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
When you know they were.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
I feel so sorry for them. Isn't that what we
were on?

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Sean says, the idea of calculus empathy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
The idea about the survey of people who personally know
members of the LGBTQ community is interesting, but it reminded
me of a discussion I had with a friend of
university asked me if I know any LGBTQ people personally,
because he's never met one. Meanwhile, two days prior, we
had hung out with a group of friends, among who
were there were two gay guys in a relationship, a
lesbian and trans woman. It's a little different now, but
back in the nineties and the odds coming out was

(01:21:58):
very selective at that time. If you didn't have gay friends,
it was actually more likely that you didn't know you
had gay friends, because you are not seen as safe
to tell.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
I agree, and it's still today.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
It's not still not a simple or easy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Thing, right, right, But I think what he's saying is
right though, that it has become more uh acceptable to
be openly gay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Okay, yes, yes, okay, And even now there's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Gonna be people that I think do not know LGBTQ people.
I agree, And especially once you get to the T
the T of the alphabet. Once you get to the T,
I feel like you're gonna know a lot. A lot
of people are like, they don't think they know a
trans person. Now they may know one that somehow has
passed in their mind or whatever, but a lot of them,

(01:22:42):
I think don't know. And this is why it's so
easy to have no empathy and to dismiss.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
To see a political talking Yah, I see what you're
coming now, Yes, yes, yes, like you said. And you
know what allows that lowells and lawmakers and people you
know honest feel like they have to run away.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
I honestly, truly do think.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
One of the main reasons I haven't been able to
listen to a lot of political podcasts after the election,
it's not just my upsetness about the losing the election
and stuff, but it's the proposed remedies for the solutions
to how to fix this party and to fix the
system and to win. I'd say, I think I'm being

(01:23:25):
generous seventy five percent, like I'm saying I'm being low
I think it's probably higher than that. But I say,
like seventy five percent of political podcasts that would call
themselves left leaning definitely floated out some version of we
just need to let these trans people let.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
This shit go. And I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
I get why people think there's no like I'm just
being logical.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
I'm just saying some people don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Maybe we should let this go, and it's not just
your little like offshoot private podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Some of these people are you know, you know, Roma.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Manuel and Gavin Newsome and you know, like names like
people that are elected, and they're they're already floating the
idea like we should let this slide. In my mind,
I can never separate it from imagine if after the
pushback against Black Lives Matter, if I had to listen
to a bunch of podcasts go, well, maybe we should

(01:24:26):
just let this black lives matter shit go.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Trump won in twenty sixteen. A lot of that's because
of Black Lives matter. Fucking let the cops kill them.
We just want to win, and you can't be mad
at us. We're just trying to win.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Where else you're gonna go vote right, and then I'm
supposed to sit there and not be offended.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Right and sumotions and the way I think of it,
When you do that, I know I'm on the agenda next.
And then not only that, I know I was thought about,
but because particularly on the Democratic Party, we play such
a large role, you knew that will be career suicide.
So then you go to another selective group of people

(01:25:05):
side like, oh, I know that. When you were looking
you was like well, what can we do who can
we blame? Well, we can't bring the blacks and were
making people puts off the blacks. We're gonna be in trouble.
Well then what out of all the people in our group,
who is that? Who is the group of the people
who we think that most people don't care about the
most And that's how they came up with this group
of people. But the thing is that group of people matters,

(01:25:27):
and how you treat them well determine how you treat
the rest of us. And people don't look at it
like that. How you treat the people that are forgotten,
the people that are the poorest, the people that don't
have when you start erasing social nets, how you treat
those people who actually dictates and determines how you treat
the rest of your populace. Because the thing is, like

(01:25:48):
I said, a trick bag is everybody thinks that they
are above being poor. Everybody thinks that they are above
being homeless. Everybody thinks that they are above these things.
You are not. You got you one medical bill from you,
one a medical bill from your child, one parent going
into a nursing home. That's all you need to lose

(01:26:10):
everything you got. Americans are under the delusion that we
actually have more than we have. Like I said before,
studies have shown most Americans, if you ask most Americans
to scribe up five hundred dollars a thousand, two thousand
dollars right now, they don't have it. Most Americans don't
have savings account. Most Americans are in credit card debt.

(01:26:30):
So when you look at that, these people that are
already on the borderline anyway have the nerves and the
audacity to look at people that they feel that are
less than them. When you are one situation, you lose
your job, you are one situation from living out of
your car. And so I feel as though when you

(01:26:51):
look at this, a lot of the people that people
claim to care about following that group, because when you
talk about trans trans people, a lot of homelessness, you know,
mental illness, a lot of homelessness, vets, a lot of homelessness,
you know when you look at it. So it's like, no,
I pay attention to how you treat these groups because
I know I am not an exception to the rules,

(01:27:13):
and I know if I lose my job now, I
don't have any social nets. You know what I'm saying,
if I happen to be come in a situation where
I don't have I need food, or I need help,
they are purposely taking these things away, and people are
under the illusion that they never need these services until
they do.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
And I think it's it's interesting because our party is
the party of the people who think they're the fucking heroes. Yes,
but you don't get to be a hero and a coward.
You either stand for this shit or you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Like that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
It is what it is, and especially when you're biggest
critique of the party in general is that it's not
brave enough. And then the second that they lose, you're like, Okay,
fucking throw the trans people in the trash, get them
the fuck out of here, like you know, but but
we're heroes, were inclusive. We're not like those Republicans, those racist,
bullshit calculating motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
We're not like that at all. Anyway. Yeah, trans people,
can you shut the fuck up and get out of here? Anyway?
Let's see was that the last comment?

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Yeah, that was the last one for the for the
website oka right now to YouTube emoji's emojis, Damien says,
hell yeah, Karen Hunter. Biden got it all the way in.
He needs way more white people with that same and
we need way more white people with that same energy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
We're planning to turn this shit around. And yes, Rod's right,
thanks damn you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Yeah, all the side. You need more people, more white people,
just like fuck them white people. We don't have enough
white people. They will look another white person in their
eye and say, fuck you, you're wrong. Too many of them,
and I understand it because the relationship to loved ones
that don't want to lose connections, and whatever the reason
may be, they always talk themselves out. If more of
them was like, fuck you, yes, you're white, I'm white too.

(01:29:03):
You got white privileges. I got white privilege too with him, bitch,
let's tussle it out. If more people, more white people,
really had the energy, we would not be going through
the bullshit we were going through.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Yeah, the social pressure shouldn't just flow one way right
into making good people be silent, like it should also
make bad people shut the fuck up.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
And it can if the good side wins. That's kind
of what normally happens.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Like it's not that the racism goes away, but it's
like I don't know there were less nasy marches under Biden.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
They're just just just facts.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
There's you know anyway, I won't get into it hate
crimes like anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Dark Nwander says.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Bill Clinton supposedly in those files too, Hence the Republicans
want to release the files. Trump wants the dj to
redact his name from the files for their release.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Damien says, they're.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Gonna need a lot of sharpies, don't They give him
two separate designations, John Doe number something and it just ended.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Yeah, I will say this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Let me just put desire because I think I don't
think there's a controversial opinion at all.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
But if Bill Clinton is in them files, I don't
even fuck like then he should be castigated too.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Like I think I saw a tweet that said this,
but it was something to the effect of, like, oh, no,
Bill Clinton is in the Epstein files. I'm gonna have
to get rid of my Bill Clinton hat, Bill Clinton shoes,
Bill Clinton NFTs, Bill Clinton bumper sticker, Like no, Like,
politicians aren't my identity in that way. They are not

(01:30:31):
like the He's not a mascot that I'm rooting for.
I thought Bill Clinton's policies were better than whatever Republican
necessarily would have done in his place. But there's no
like brand loyalty of like well that didn't let the
people get away with sexual assaulting kids.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
No ramsy pH Dune says Robert Hunter Biden energy for
the rest of the our motherfucking days. Lovely Day says, yes,
please cut. I think it's to kt j A A
I mean j t k t j a jj.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Okay, Hunter tell us why you really mad?

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Don't know if he is currently on anything, but he
got stuff to say.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
I love how everybody's like he might be on the crack.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
I don't is good crack talken and another another great one,
Thank you Hugh Gordon's Thank you t KG. Hugh Gordon says,
now we know why last year when hunter Byden testified
in front of Congress, the Republicans force it to happen
behind closed doors, that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
That niggas ain't never spending the truth going on. They
were like, no, we can't have his aird on on
live national television.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
That way they could edit and shape his words for
their performative partisan proclivities. Imagine that kind of enjury for
six hours.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Uh, yeah, but be federalized. They came out to him personally,
went after him like he he feels a certain way,
like he don't have the luxury of some of these
other people that didn't have a federal government on their asses.
So he's like, no, fuck them. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
Kim Dock says, Uh. The booze for yes, the race
always sound like an angry white mob. Where's that sound from?
I can tell you it's on the Spotify.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
List called Crowd Booing and Hissing from Pro Sound Effects
Library on the outset on the album called one hundred
Human Sounds, Sneeze the Screens, snores and more.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Jason Jasper says, for some reason, that story about Trump
still in the team's trophy got me extra heated, just
the fact that he brought himself on stage during their
moment to get some residual applause.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
It's shameless.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Look, clearly, he's beloved at UFC, so he wants to
go there fine, But anywhere else he's just ruining people's time.
Shout out to Hunter b Hunter was hunting. He sounded like, Biggie,
This goes.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Out to you and you and you and you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
I literally thought of caring the first time I heard
him caring and Hunter as Joe's PR squad could have
changed the course of.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
History, and it wasn't in the clip you played.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
But he was also very complimentary of kamalas so he
stuck the landing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
I didn't want to play the whole five minutes, but yeah,
I did see it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
And yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
One of the things that I find fascinating is how
little we really seem to actually know, and we're just
taking a lot of unofficial word for what must happen
behind the scenes, and everyone's biases are playing out because
I think you can use context clues and kind of
see like some of the way things played out and

(01:33:26):
been like, well, that probably wasn't true. But I can't
get people to people can't see past how they already feel.
So like there are people that are like Obama stabbed
Joe in the back and he didn't want Kamala. It's like, well,
that seemed just from the way he campaigned for her,
the way the call they released where he called her

(01:33:46):
almost immediately after Joe named her, doesn't really seem like
that's what happened. But if you already hate the Obama's
or think they are phoni like, of course you're gonna
say that, yeah, And then all the Jake Tapper shit
is so anonymous, and I don't know how you really
report on that people with inside knowledge like Hunter, and

(01:34:10):
I'm sure other people in that Biden family for the
most part, are going to be too classy to come
out and say much.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
Again, a lot of shit we probably never know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
And we want to believe the most negative version, so
like people really want to believe he was like in
there stumbling and bumbling and slobbry and shit. So I
don't know, I'm and I don't think we'll ever really
truly know. It's just how how do you feel versus
what you think must have happened?

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
And that's it. How finally, I'm starting to think maybe to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Take out the guards means something different than McDonald's language,
because clearly that phase has.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Sparked that phrase. It sparked a lot of drama in
those arches. It has.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
The poem was, was Hunter Byden spitting to you? Yes,
ninety percent of the audience says he was spitting.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
To them, and even talking about language that means n
percent of y'all did not think he was spitting, which,
all right, I hope you'll, I hope you'll feel like
he should have went hard or something. I hope I
don't think he should have backed up, because if not,
we're gonna have problems.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
He should have been like Roight calling the motherfuckers. All right, y'all,
let's get into the voicemails. And then we got one email. Uh,
let me play a beat so I might put commercials here.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Why did you Why did you kill that dog?

Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
They're eating the eating this eating dog, they're eating the eating, this,
eating that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
I don't even remember this beat.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Trump killed my dog is what it's called. I don't
know who is by someone said it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
All right, let's get we made that comment.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
So these voicemail oh, I'm sure they send it win,
but I just don't remember who and why.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
But anyway, here's the voicemails.

Speaker 5 (01:36:08):
Y'all.

Speaker 7 (01:36:08):
It's Marissa. I'm calling in because I was listening to
the episode today which also about Country Bride stuff, which
I live, and I'm just so curious, like, Okay, do
y'all really think that the Epstein files, like the files themselves,
actually exists, because I kind of feel like they don't.
I kind of go back and forth, and I'm trying

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to understand why the Republicans and.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
His supporters they can't hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
My bad, guys, I forgot ship. Okay, give me a second. Sorry,
I forgot. I'm in a different browser and don't.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
Let y'all hear by default, which is ridiculous. But give
me a second. It's Marissa, and it's only a short voicemail,
so it shouldn't be long that hard to restart it
ahead and let me know if y'all can hear it now.

Speaker 7 (01:37:02):
Hey, y'all, it's Marissa. I'm calling in because I was
listening to the episode today which also was about Punch
of Bride stuff, which I live.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
Okay, could y'all hear that?

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:37:13):
And I'm just so curious, like, Okay, do y'all really
think that the Epstein files, like the files themselves actually exist,
because I kind of feel like they don't. I kind
of go back and forth, and I'm trying to understand
why the Republicans and his supporters are all like up
in arms about all of this shit when literally every

(01:37:33):
new piece of like damning evidence is coming out is
like shit that we've been known like the last three
times this motherfucker ran for president, And so I'm like,
do the shit even exist or was it just a
skin from the beginning? And now Trump is second to lie?
But then why do his people give a fuck when

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they never gave a fuck before? Are they just upset
about the economy and all the other shit? But the
kind of like get out all of that energy on
this Epsteine shit. It don't make no sense to me.
It makes no sense to me. And I also feel
like during the last election, if there were these like
Ebsteine files or whatever that had incriminated.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Shit about Trump, I feel like the ship.

Speaker 7 (01:38:15):
Would have bleeped. I don't know, but anyways, I was
just calling because I wanted to know, like, do y'all
think these ships really exists? And who? Why do you
think his supporters give a fuck now when they've never
cared before? Anyways, So love y'all, love a show.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
I'll be listening in.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
Uh. Yeah, I mean I think they exist.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
I think it's kind of obvious they must exist, because
who the fuck fights this hard against some ship that
don't exist?

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
A whole less woman in jail right now because of
this ship.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
Yeah, we've seen like excerpts and pictures and ship and
like there's this's documented our investigation. They already released released
that one that one.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Letter Trump wrote him with the that that he drew
like a woman's outline with pubic hair on and ship like, So, no,
it exists. I'm more surprised people care, right, you know,
because it just didn't seem like I don't know what
mag of people care about.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
What they don't, right, And it's all over the place.
And the biggest reason why a lot of this ship
is not fully coming out is because the Republicans. The
Republicans are very obstruction It's like not the mask.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
But why would they be obstructing something if it didn't exist, right,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
And also I think they would say it don't exist.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
I think they would preferred if it did not exist
and they could make it go away. They would prefer
to be like, you guys are tripping over nothing. This
ship doesn't even exist. I don't even know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
It exists because they are. They are trying to hook
a just so he.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
Was on trial, he was gonna go on trial. He
killed himself. Jili Max Jillie Gi.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Yeah, Maxwell is in jail now, it's not in there
because there wasn't enough evidence. So yeah, I think it exists.
I'm more perplexed as to why they give a fuck.
Why has this man has been convicted in a court
of sexual harassment and sexual improprieties, but.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
He's in many pictures with Epstein.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
It's now this is this is the deal breaking for
y'all or maybe this m I guess my conspiracy not conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
My leaning is.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
Maybe they see how bad his policies are being received
by so many people, and now this is the chance
to jump ship, like you didn't know, Like this is
the convenient off ramp of like well there's Epstein.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
I mean I could. I can't go that far.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
It's like, okay, so this is your way of being
like get out of jail free. Like oh yeah, when
it was the immigrants and when it was this and
when it was that, that's different. But this is Epstein. Shit, man,
Like I'm not with any of it now, right we
all agree?

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Anyway?

Speaker 5 (01:41:04):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
In Mon left the last voicemail, Hey.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Rod, Hey Karen, this is Inmon. I was calling because
I just want to thank y'aut for I'm still listening
to the feedback episodes, but for I just had to
stop in calling about the part where you said that
direction is not an attack. And I think that's so important,
especially in this same time where so many people are

(01:41:33):
just like living online. And of course I can't understand
people's tone and voice, but at least in text, when
they're correcting you or asking you a question, they also
questioning someone's point of view or there or how they're
thinking about something isn't necessarily also an attack or or

(01:42:00):
I said us, or anything, especially between two loving people
or between a family. And this is something I've been
trying to to really chuse to try to have my
daughter who's now fourteen, understand if I correct her or
remind her or about anything, I'm like, I'm not attacking you,

(01:42:26):
I'm not chastising you. I love you, like Dad reminds
me of stuff. It's like we correct each other about things.
If I ask her where she got information from, it's
because I'm just trying to understand where where where your
mindset is. And and then it does, like you said,

(01:42:46):
it helps the audience because we might be thinking about
something that y'all are talking about in the way Karen
is thinking about it, like you're having to tell her, no,
I'm thinking about.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
It this way.

Speaker 5 (01:42:59):
So I just really appreciate you to listen to that.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
So we'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:43:10):
Uh. But yeah, thank you for that. I think it
was really important. I love y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
Thank you you do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Yeah, I think it is important, and I think, especially
now in this climate, because critical thinking and being a
little bit more inquisitive is it needs to be modeled
to people and it needs to become a bigger part
of our focus as people that pass on information each other.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
I do this all the time with my friends.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
Like, sometimes I worry about my friendships, not because I
think I'm a bad friend, but because like, uh, I
can only be friends with a certain type of person.
Like if my like and my friends know this, and
they I'm sure sometimes it's inconvenience, sometimes it's welcome. But
I'm the guy who's like, all right, explain this further

(01:44:04):
than just you saw TikTok video or you know, like
the other day, my one of my friends was like,
I have a conspiracy about what's happening to hip hop
and with Drake and blah blah blah. And then as
she started talking it out. She because I said conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
Y'all know me. I ain't a conspiracy guy. Really. I
like conspiracies A lot of people think are fun.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
I think conspiracies have become one of the most dangerous
damaging things in society in the advent and the Internet.
I think it literally, uh, Pizzagate, the coronavirus, vaccine, Januard
six Q or not. I really think it's dangerous. I

(01:44:47):
have a trigger of Uh. It definitely bothers me to
hear people that I respect truck in conspiracy like and
I know it probably makes me feel like an asshole
to them that they're like, look at this guy, he's
been a jerk. I don't allow people to play around
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
Like, I need you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
We need to be having a conversation that is based
in reality.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
In real reality.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Yes, if it's.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Gonna be conspiratorial, I'm probably gonna opt out of the
conversation because I think it's a very slippery slope and
it don't take long. It doesn't take long. It doesn't
mean there's no conspiracy. It doesn't mean there's nothing to consider.
It doesn't but like, let's let's not just throw everything
in there, you know, I've never was a Illuminati guy.
I was never that guy. And I don't find it

(01:45:34):
fun in the way that people think it's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
I don't. I think it's actually very dangerous anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
So she starts explaining it, and then she's like, oh, actually,
because I listened to what she explained, I said, Oh,
I don't think what you're describing as a conspiracy, but
it does feel like a conflagration of events that led
to these circumstances, led to a certain outcome, and I
do agree with that. I feel like that's what happened,
and it was it was essentially like all these old
rappers are coming back because as a vacuum left and

(01:46:01):
hip hop by the absence of Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
And she's like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Now that I think about it, I don't. I didn't
even mean to use the word conspiracy. It's what you're saying,
like it was not, because conspiracy implies like the powers
that be decided to get Drake, and that's what Drake's
some of his more ardent bot fan online people they've
tried to be like Kendrick Lamar was used in a

(01:46:25):
conspiracy to.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
Destroy Drake because what why?

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
And so she and I'm like, we have to be
careful because I don't even want to entertain that because
once you start framing it that way, it makes them
seem valid, and they're not valid.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
In my opinion, that's not what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Uh, there was not the powers that be taking Drake out,
And we need to stop talking like that when that's
not what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
But yeah, so my.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
Point being like, that's a clarification, that's a challenge, that's
a disagreement.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
Some people. People can't even be friends with someone that
did what I just did.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
That was like, Hey, I'm like, I would not call
it this as a conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
I would say this. They would they like, fuck Rod,
he fuck him, he don't get me. Whatever. But I
have to have that in my friendships and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
If my friend, if I were to talk that way,
my friend would be like, Rod, that's not a conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (01:47:23):
You showed up at the DMV late, that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
I'm like, thank you for checking me. Appreciate you. You're right,
I was spiraling out.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
For a second.

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
Yeah, it's nothing. Yeah, it's not the end of the world.
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Emails, we got one, John says, morning Rod and Karen Hunter,
Biden is slinging some big dick energy with those no
fucks left to give, and I'm here for it. There's
another clip, I'm guessing in the five minute when Rod
mentioned where Hunter breaks down which segment of our coalition
still with his dad and which one threw him under
the bus. He explains how after the debate, Joe Clear
numerous hurdles, did multiple appearances, speeches, and interviews and looked fine,

(01:47:56):
just fine, getting a standing ovation from the NAACP, a
foe throwed endorsement from the CBC, but white progressive pundits
celebrity assholes were like, nope, too late and just continued
to double down or pushing out the most effective president
of my lifetime because they never liked them.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
It really is that easy to me.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
And I know there's well meaning white people that will
think that's not what happened to me. I think that
is what happened to you. And there's never gonna be
any we don't even need to discuss it, because there's
never gonna be a thing you can say that would
change my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
And the reason why they never wanted him is because
when it was time, when it was time, to pick
everything underneath the moon ran when Joe Bidy ran people,
because that's the thing. The people determined this. People rejected
them all. They couldn't get enough votes, they didn't have
enough money, whatever, so they all started dropping off. And

(01:48:45):
people never liked Joe from the beginning. And when black people,
particularly down South, endorsed him and he won, instead of
them just accepting what had happened, they turned around and
they called black people stupid, dumb, and un educated. How
dare you picked this white man because they never wanted
him in the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Yeah. I just think.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
One of the things that is very interesting, and it's
it's why it's kind of difficult to have white friends,
because like it's hard to have real talk with them
that isn't about making them feel bad, but it is
the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
As you see it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
And they they don't understand the amount of privilege they
live within the world, because I mean, come on, they're
not reading books about it, they're not watching TV shows.
They're like they're and why would they if it's gonna
make them feel bad?

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
Right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
There's like always a bit of a barrier because shit
that I can say with other people, I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
I don't want to start World War three. So I
was just like, stop. But they're well meaning white people.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
I'm not calling them evil, bad, not call them racist
any loaded terms. It's not that's I would sect what
this conversation is about. But they benefit from a certain
level of privilege to where if I like a black
TV show and they don't in their minds, I like
it because it's black, and I'm defending a show that

(01:50:17):
I know is bad because I'm black, and I don't
want people to not like the black show. You see
what I'm saying. They can't their mind can't compute. Maybe
you don't like it because it's black. Maybe it's not
of your culture or not for you. Maybe you just
don't understand it. Maybe it turned you off just because

(01:50:38):
it was different from everything that is catered to you
in every other way. It could be that. Now it
could be a bad show too.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
Let's not rule that out.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
But if you typically respect my opinion, you typically understand
my logic and stuff, Suddenly when we disagree, it becomes oh,
because you're black. Right now, that's not an invalid thing
to think or say, because sometimes that is true.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
Like there are things I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
That I'm more defensive of because I'm a black person
and I feel some type of society pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
But where would that societal pressure come from?

Speaker 5 (01:51:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Why am I feeling that society pressure. I'm not living
in an equal society where everything is being treated fairly,
so even that pressure that defense.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
Oh okay, all right, well let me pause this.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
All right, So we just had technical difficulties and I
may have lost a little bit of track where I was.
But my point is whiteness does not consider normally the
amount of privilege they navigate the world with, so they
don't necessarily they think bias exists on one side basically only,
and that when bias exists in white people, it's just

(01:51:47):
like the racist, like virulent type of bias, and not
just the like I'm cross the street when I saw
a group of black guys, or I uh, I.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
Just don't like movies.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
Like it's when people that review movies somehow just don't
see any of the black movies. But they go, I
see all the movies, but you didn't see the black movies,
so you don't see all the movies. It's I'm not
calling you a racist. I'm not saying you're doing it
on purpose. These are just biases. These are blind spots.
When I have them, we make it, we make fun
of it. When I'm like, I didn't see that movie
it's too white, it's because it's not. There's not the

(01:52:21):
negative connotation society societally with I didn't see a movie
because it was directed by Wes Anderson and it's too
white for me.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
No, no one's gonna like come at me for that.
But if a white.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Person were to say, I didn't see this black Spike
Lee movie it's too black for me, we would be
like you, piece of racist shit. So there's this undercurrent
they can't ever admit to. Politically that also happens. Yes,
that's my point. So they don't think aligning against Biden
was ever about anything racial. Like they don't see it

(01:52:54):
as like, like you said, black people pick this candidate.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
I preferred all these other people.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
You know, Bernie was my guy, and he doesn't really
talk about race. But to me, that's not why I'm
voting for him, because they don't know subconsciously his message
is crafted to not talk about race. So you just
get angry about rich people, yep. And then and then
we don't have to discuss anything further than that, and
we having to live in this.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
World, we have to see it. That's how we survived.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
Yep, that's how we survived.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
So I think that is why like someone like Hunter
Biden like calling that shit out and like not running
away from like, hey, it was black people that picked him,
and black people that still beside him.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
They can't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
They just think and all those black people were wrong,
and they thought we were. They just and they didn't
even understand that our reticence for moving Biden was never
about any other candidate. Like it wasn't like because we
hate Kamala. We were like, if your goal is to
make Kamla president, which is fine with us, yes you
should still vote for Biden.

Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
Because if you're.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
Saying he's infirmed and he's not going to be able
to live out the presidency, guess who's the president after that?

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
Com last?

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
So like like we I don't see the downside you're
talking about. It's only it's only the fact that y'all
think there's this other better version, because I think, truly,
Joe Biden is probably the Captain America of white politicians.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
And I don't say that in jest.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
I think that he's a good, honorable man who genuinely
believed in and stood for all this shit, who stood
after he made mistakes, stood around, didn't run away, didn't
blame the black people, didn't stop, stopped communicating with us,
came back to our communities, stood in our face and said, yeah,

(01:54:58):
I fucked that one up.

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
I won't do that again. Help me, help you, how
can I make it better? And I think.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
White people will never truly understand that relationship he had
with black voters.

Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
And now that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
It's July twenty twenty five and he's still alive, still
doing interviews, still out here, this whole like he's a bumbling,
stumbling elder abuse victim. It has not come to fruition yet,
And none of these motherfuckers will ever go, we.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
Got that one wrong, guys. And I think that's what
will bother a lot of us till the day we die,
is that with me.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
And the reason I don't think it's about them holding
out on us.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
I truly think.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
They lack the capacity to say we called this wrong.
They just think, no, he had a bad debate, and
it's because he was a senile or something like. They
don't have anything. They can't they can't accept maybe we
called this one wrong, like not that that he didn't

(01:56:07):
have a bad debate, he died. They can't. They can't
understand that the reason you really lose is you blank.
Meaning if Donald Trump, Donald Trump had nothing but bad debates, right,
no one's ever going to not support him, right, And
that's why that's how you win.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
It's not the other way around.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
He doesn't say the way that people believe in politics
is opposite. They think it's a singular figure at the
top puts a certain type of demand on society and
we all get behind it, and it's the opposite society
demands up meaning I'm so racist, I don't care that
you're a fucking pedophile.

Speaker 3 (01:56:46):
I'm voting for you.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
That's how it works.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
We don't have that saying wherewithal on the other side,
where it's like I am so pro whatever the thought,
cause I am, I don't care that you're uh you
lost a debate.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
It just does not matter to me.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
It didn't me.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
Yeah, and so I know, I know, yeah, I get it.
Uh So, I you know, I think that's why a
lot of us resonated with Hunter, and a lot of
I think white people are gonna either brush it off,
pretend it doesn't exist at call them a crackhead whatever,
but they're not gonna be like, nah, man, that's the
right energy, and he's right.

Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
We owe Biden in apology.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
And also it's one of those things where I think
because of that, a lot of white people were very
confused by a lot of the black people's backlash when
Biden stepped down, and a lot of their backlash even
more when coming to lost like like like like, I

(01:57:47):
think for them, they had a lot of confusion, like
they they didn't they didn't understand why black people are
so angry, so mad, so upset, and a lot of
them was very distraught, you know, because guess what they
had to be around all these angry and upset and
and and and and and and and bitter black people
like like like and all like. They had to continue
to work with them, and they're still all working with them,
and they're still confused as to why a lot of

(01:58:10):
them feel certain ways and like people, you know, their
people were working through through through these emotions and they're
not as intense as they were when uh uh after
the election. But it doesn't mean that anger is it
won't always be there, and they don't understand for some
of why some of their friendships and relationships with some
of these black people changed and or ended because of this,

(01:58:33):
you know, because a lot of them are very adamant
about Joe Biden stepping down. They're very adamant about anybody
but common and all this stuff. And so you know,
once you get the results, people feel justified. Like you say,
results equal justification. People feel justified in their anger and
and and and and and they was like, oh, okay,
I see what's happening. Obviously, even if they're not part
of the problem, you become part of the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
Yeah, I think a lot of us said, and I
mean I know, I said, ad nauseam, I don't have
a problem. Moving on to Kamala Harris. I think y'all
do like, I'm gonna do the right thing. I don't
trust white people to come through and be like, Okay,
it's no longer a white man that's running, I'm gonna
go ahead and vote for it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
And they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
And to me, that's the fundamental problem, and it's gonna
always be the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
And the fact.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
That I knew that and you didn't and yet there's
no acknowledgment of that feels like it's just gonna continue
to be repeated.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
Yeah, and I'm gonna talk to what Greg said, and
when I said that, I'm talking about people that are
actually in the U say what he said, it says,
I don't think they were considering black people's reactions. I'm
talking about people that were in political circles, right, like
that actually have to interact with us, that actually have
to have conversations with us, that we have meetings with.
I'm talking about that particular group, people that were deep

(01:59:51):
in these polls, like like like those people, people that
were running for office, like those people yes and mass No,
they don't consider us, but people that have to actually
interaction because if you that's your funny, if you are
a Democrat, you're gonna have to interact with black and
brown and others. You're gonna have to because because we
run this bitch, regardless of how they feel, we just
run it. And so particularly when it comes to voting

(02:00:12):
and political things. So I think they have to consider
what we think back like it's not an option, And
a lot of them are confused by some of the
reactions and how we're responding and how we're cutting off
or whatever whatever we mean, because a lot of people
are very very angry. That's a group of people I'm
talking about. I do understand what you're saying. You know,
in mass is no but in them political circles they
have to interact with that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
I think, And I think it's like two things happening
at once. Right, they disregarded us, and at the same time,
like you said, they can't. I know that they care
because you do see that sentiment around of like, wow,
notice that the black people aren't really doing as much
as they were. What are black people gonna do politically now?
And all this shit and it's like, hmm, it seemed

(02:00:51):
like y'all really were used to that black support and
it's not just popping right back up like you thought
it would. It's not inspired off of this law. Yeah,
and it's especially black women.

Speaker 1 (02:01:02):
Yeah, it's not the same, you know, because we've lost.
We've lost before, and before people kind of dust themselves
off and shake off and be like, hey, let's go.
And now people are coming back, but it ain't at
the same pace and it's not at the same rate,
and people are like, I need a break and they're like, uh,
ain't it business as usual? And people gonna know this

(02:01:23):
time it ain't business as usual.

Speaker 2 (02:01:25):
Because he has a study, it couldn't magically circumvent Congress
and Scots the past magic legislation, especially because he would
Bernie's ass in twenty twenty and still with black people anyways,
I would never stop being mad about that shit, especially
from people who were all listening to black people during
the George Floyd but refuse to do so when it
actually mattered. So I'm glad Hunter is correcting the record.
I was thinking last night that one of the big
problems in politics that so many people on our side

(02:01:48):
don't actually respect the work of our politicians. Them's getting
no credit for the good stuff they accomplish, the harms
that they mitigate. See guys, where Biden's pressure actually staved
off the open policies of ethnic cleansing from Israel hard
right that are now going forward because Trump doesn't care
fuck the uncommitted assholes to eternity or even just the
amount of character it takes to be a public servant,

(02:02:10):
only to be constantly shipped on.

Speaker 3 (02:02:11):
See all the libelous smears Hillary.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
Obama and Biden Kamala have had thrown at them for decades. Anyway,
piss me off that so many people in our own
coalition don't really believe in the good governess they claim
to want. Sorry for the long run, I haven't had
much time to time and recently do the busy work
in life and in general.

Speaker 3 (02:02:27):
But I'm still listening when I can. Love y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
John, Thanks John, appreciate you, and yeah, man, you know
I get it. Like I said, I I don't think
there's anything that can be furthered by even having conversation
about it. I don't think this is a divide that
can be bridged because I don't think it's a divide

(02:02:50):
that many people recognizing themselves.

Speaker 3 (02:02:53):
I think it would just take moral and.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
Philosophical wanting to be better people from white people who
are already like good, you.

Speaker 3 (02:03:10):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:03:10):
Like people keep trying to turn this into an argument
about turning some racist assholes to the left or something.

Speaker 3 (02:03:17):
I don't know that that's feasible.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
But I think even harder than that is getting a
white person who's like, hey, I'm typically not a racist person.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
I want good things. I vote Democrat.

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
I think you know, like getting that person to go
that's not good enough, I need to be better is
much more difficult, I think in many ways, because how
do you do it without one their feelings taken over
and being like I feel bad. I don't like being
talked to like this. How do you do it in
a way where they would stop and recognize, like, shit,
that is me, you know what I mean, Like like,

(02:03:53):
oh damn, I was one of them people that just thought.
And the main thing that we would be trying to
convince them of is probably one of the most inconvenient things,
which is not that they're necessarily a bad person. Many
of them did the right thing, they voted the right way,
but telling them, like dog, you can't believe in your
fellow white people in the way that you do. You
might talk about this later on in the week, but

(02:04:17):
everyone's been really happy about the South Park episode about Trump,
and I watched it, and it's like the most white
boy humor way of talking about Trump, like it's his
dick is small, he's fat, you know that type of thing.
I didn't think it was bad, by the way, I
know a lot I know a few people that hate it,
and all this shit I don't. I thought it was

(02:04:38):
it was a south Park episode. I thought it was
what they do. They were in their bag for south Park.
I'm not a south Park hater, but it's not my
favorite show whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
But the undercurrent of south Park, I guess I'll just
talk about it here. Yeah, fuck it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
The undercurrent of south Park is this, they are libertarian.
Both sides are bad, that kind of white guys, and
it comes out in their work and they're kind of
on the we make fun of everybody thing, which is
never really true, but you know whatever, close enough, they're

(02:05:11):
irreverent to all sides, right, and they make fun of
trans people, they make fun of black people, they make
fun of even Black Lives Matter and stuff. Nothing is
off limits for them to make fun. And in this episode,
it's kind of like the world they wish existed, especially

(02:05:33):
in this post Cobert losing his gig thing right, This
world that they wish existed, the world they tell themselves exists.

Speaker 3 (02:05:41):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
There aren't really any bad white people. There's no bad
white men. They're just people who got tricked by Trump. Like,
it's not a bad impulse to want to say the
R word and the F word. That's not the problem.
Those people are still good people. They just they just
they got a little confused.

Speaker 7 (02:06:03):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
The Liberals took away their toys of offensiveness, and so
they voted for Trump. And in this episode, they're all
getting their Andrew Schultz on.

Speaker 3 (02:06:13):
They're now like, what, he's really a piece of shit?

Speaker 2 (02:06:16):
I'm mad and I'm mad at Trump now and we're
all gonna go get them, man, We're gonna get him
out of here together.

Speaker 3 (02:06:22):
And everyone's coming back together.

Speaker 2 (02:06:25):
And I think that is emblematic of something that holds
us back as a society, which is like the Andrew Schultzes,
your Bill Maher's, your Joe Rogan's, They're good guys who
just got a little bit taken by a snake, all
salesman and not. We don't stop to go why were

(02:06:47):
they taken?

Speaker 1 (02:06:48):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
And what does that say about them? That getting to
say slurs is is an exploit that can be exploited
all the way to I'm gonna vote you into the
White House, don't. We don't stop and just and question
their morality. We can all now just point at Trump
and go, what an evil piece of shit? Right now,
we're all on the same page. We don't like him,
and now everything's happy and we're together and we're all

(02:07:12):
down with Trump, and it's not necessarily reflective or indicative
of what is happening in our society. A lot of
people still going along with this shit. A lot of people,
even the ones who are like I don't like what
he's doing with if you if you listen to their
full clips, their full conversations in those same conversations, like now,
I still ain't voting for common right, I still like that,

(02:07:36):
Like it's.

Speaker 3 (02:07:36):
Not a I would vote for They would vote.

Speaker 2 (02:07:39):
For him again. But they also don't want to be
seen as bad people. That's not good enough.

Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
They don't want to be seen as bad people. I'm sorry,
I don't want to hear it. If you voted for him,
you are a bad person.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
So even with the South Park thing, it didn't necessarily
land in any place to me. I mean, I get
it that it's white boy humor.

Speaker 3 (02:07:56):
They like seeing. You know, always got a little dick,
he's fat.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
Uh oh, he's getting sucked by Satan. It's gonna hurt
his feelings, you know. Paramount. The funniest stuff in there
is about Paramount to me is the idea that Paramounts
settled this lawsuit and then they signed this big ass
one point five billion dollars deal with South Park and
the South Palk creators immediately made jokes about the network
being Trump's bitch, Like I love that, don't get me wrong,

(02:08:21):
but but it all feels facutless to me. Jokes aren't
enough to stop Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:08:26):
No, it is not.

Speaker 2 (02:08:27):
And it makes people feel powerful, you know, but it's
not strong enough.

Speaker 3 (02:08:31):
And also, comedians can't have it both ways.

Speaker 2 (02:08:35):
You can't be mister power speak truth to power and
satires the the real weapon of the people.

Speaker 3 (02:08:42):
We're gonna tear down the kings.

Speaker 2 (02:08:44):
And at the same time, whenever we call you out
on some shit, you go, we're just comedians, you know.
John Stewart gets offended on Colbert's behalf. And at the
same time John Stewart Clinton defended Tony Hinchcliffe, like to
me that you're just a useful idiot. Then like you,
who cares that you upset? What does that matter to me?

(02:09:05):
Are you defending the morality of it? You're just defending
another comedian. I don't like this is just comedians, just
your thin blue line like the cops, like it means
nothing to me, but uh yeah, your anger is not
righteous either anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
That's my feelings on it. Okay, that's it for everything today.
We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (02:09:25):
So and asked in an email, like you guys, don't
read the Spotify comments.

Speaker 3 (02:09:29):
I was like, the episodes are over two hours already.
I don't want to be here four or five hours.
I like to go to you in the workout, like
I feel like we're giving you enough.

Speaker 2 (02:09:40):
It can't be that much being said on Spotify. That
would change what we're saying. And if it's really important,
go to the blackout tills dot com, leave a comment
on the website.

Speaker 3 (02:09:48):
Go to our YouTube. That's what we're reading. Emails.

Speaker 2 (02:09:51):
We still do those ad voicemails. There's enough ways to
reach out guys. Is if you not discouraging you, if
you want to leave comments on Spotify, I ain't gonna
stop you. But I don't see them all in I
don't respond to them all all right, y'all until next time,
I love you.

Speaker 1 (02:10:04):
I love you too,

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