3138: The Conspiracy Slippery Slope

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regular schedule program. Thirty one thirty five The Idiots Folder
was the first episode in the feedback episode, we got comments.
Apia says, now I'm thinking about my new rebellious rule
breaking raps names. Doing math for fun on Sunday early

(03:10):
to bed is my jam, and yoga every day will
blow your mind. I'm a really dangerous woman who lives
on the edges. You can see, yes, yes, I can
see it, she says about personal data data. Let me
take an example from my white European life. After I
had children, I decided never to miss them on my CV.
I don't know what CV is because what's more likely

(03:31):
in the world that it would help me. Look at
that Apia working killing it at work and being a mother.
Let's give her more money or hurt me. That Apia
has children now, so she will call in sit NonStop
and the job isn't her priority anymore. Definitely the second
so I didn't never talk about it during my job interview,
and so didn't the potential employer has never been an issue.

(03:53):
Given more data when necessary, it is trusting the other
side to do the morally right thing. Yeah, I think
that's totally. My question to her was does your government
have a record that you have children? Because I'm pretty
sure they do, right, that's the government and whatever information
they use that for for good or bad is just him,
depending on who's at top. But like there's a birth certificate,

(04:16):
there's records of kids being in school, shit like that.
Like you're not living off the grid, she says, of course,
and it makes sense. Children need health and sharing school
their ideas right, and so do black children, which is
why we report we have kids on the census. Like
it's I I like, I'm not trying to turn it

(04:36):
into a debate mostly, but or I shouldn't say that.
I'm not trying to turn this into an insult, is
what I'm saying. I'm from America, I'm black. I just
you just have to take my word on it. I
know better than you on this, And I mean you
can disagree, of course, you can feel however you want

(04:56):
to feel. But even the idea of this, like not
doing the census, living off the grid is very white informed.
Like it's not informed by what we go through here.
It's not informed by literally hundreds of years of having
to collect the data to prove our point, to get

(05:17):
the things that we have gotten in a country where
we have.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
To go by number because they're not gonna go by
anything else.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, in a country where we started out as slaves.
Black people like Ida b Wells did the dangerous work
of collecting the exact data of people being lynched, why
they were lynched, where it was happening, risking her life
to do so. In order for us to finally pass
anti lynching legislation, it had to be data informed. They

(05:44):
would not go by vibes and they would not believe
us based on our own testimony because we are black,
and they just decided not to the real issue is
who gets to be in charge in America? And when
we let people who are nefarious being they would use
all the government resources for nefarious purposes, regardless of what

(06:05):
data you give them or don't give them. The data
to them is not justification as much as it is
just another tool that can will So the discussion that
we're really having is more about who's in charge and
less about the idea of data is always bad. Don't
ever tell people anything that's just That's not how it

(06:28):
has worked for progress in America. For black people, data
has been the thing that supports our truth and gives
us evidence. It has been the lack of data that
leads to stereotypes, that leads to anecdotal bullshit like black
people are on welfare and their welfare queens and they

(06:48):
don't have fathers in their home. These are all things
that are considered to be the truth in absence of data.
It is us coming up with the actual numbers to
be like that is not truth that pushes back on
that and gives us some actual real assistance in ways
that the government can help our community. So I like,
while you might see this as more of a like

(07:08):
theoretical debate or some ideological difference, I'm telling you that
it is my lived experience, and to me, I'm not
going to be swayed on this, and not of some
stubborn like I'm always right, but on some literal like
it would be like me telling you, like, no, what
Germany needs to do. I don't fucking know anything about Germany.
I don't I don't know enough to tell you and

(07:29):
your lived experience of every day of like this is
what Germans should do with their government, and this is
how Polish people should act in Germany. I don't fucking know.
And so I'm not gonna assume we will not get
punished somehow because we have kids. But I don't want
to argue about this is you. I just see that
in a different in the current political climate, there would
be no help for communities and need, there would be
more attempts to make their vote count lesson. I really

(07:50):
don't like this. Yeah, and that was what was gonna
happen when they took office, no matter what the data said.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Do that period agree And that's where a lot of
my sadness and anger and shit came from. But in
the chat, they were saying, CV is a resume.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay, cool, thank you. Yeah, I don't think you know.
I don't even know you could put kids on a
resume that's different.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
For the job.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah. I guess maybe people put mom as a job
or something. That's interesting. I didn't know people were even
doing that on resumes. But I definitely understand and agree
that people will use stuff like that against women in
the workplace. So don't think I'm telling you that, Oh no,
that's not real. Like no, it's absolutely real. And I
respect your experience as a woman, one that I don't have,

(08:33):
and I see how you could arrive to that conclusion.
It's not for me to tell you, like, well, I
disagree you should tell everyone you have kids, Like, no,
what do I know about how work goes In Germany,
uh Sean says that is a door as store. There's
a door as short. It can be used to target
vulnerable population for good or ill. The lack of racial

(08:53):
data in France and Germany has led to an inability
to track and address systemic racism. That being said, having
that alone is not enough. The systemic sidelining and the
rature of a Knew a riaku yuku culture language in
Japan continues to happen with that available to see it.
This also goes back to something you talked about earlier.
Making English the official language. It still is not legally

(09:16):
the official language of the United States. To clarify, because
Japan is the official Japanese is the official language in Japan.
I Knew mainly Hakkaido and the Northern Islands and Ryaq
mainly Okinawa and the Southern Islands. Languages could not be
used in schools. While it is now legal to speak

(09:36):
those languages and teach them as secondary subject matter, they
are now in the verge of extinction. Sorry to bring
it down, Runner Raphael says the Idiot's photers is a
splendid idea for the parabo Karan and he loves it.
I sure wrote that down. Thanks for sharing. As for
the society being cooked, you damn right. Did you not
see a trainer of Ninja's in Japan take a break
from dropping mad data info to stab the artists formally

(09:59):
known as Ronan in the back. No honor, no rules.
We back to the wild West, my brother play. I
want to know what love is. I won't be playing that.
I also don't understand what you mean. I'm guessing, Sean,
disagree with you.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
It's now you feel portrayed.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, we are definitely cooked as a society, says I
still have a little hope, but it's the size of
a nat. Let's see what YouTube comments. We got six comments?
All right, let's see what we got here. Dark nam
just says Charles Atlas. Comic book, advertising and fitness program
from the nineteen fifties, The advertiser depicted the skinny young

(10:36):
man being bullied on the beach and then transforming himself
into a muscular, confident individual who stands up to the bully.
This transformation was achieved through Atlas's dynamic tension method, a
form of exercise that uses the body's own resistance. Yes,
I remember that a good and deep feedback podcast episode.
Thanks No Problem, Leonardo says, everything is hyper individualized. Now, yes,

(10:58):
that's a great way to put it. So much of
our I said, I keep saying, but so much our
reality is just not shared with each other. It's not
this is not like I talk. And I don't mean
because I'm in a totally different world than everybody. I
just mean, like even people I'm close to, they'll come
to you with like something that has like this very
urgent to them, like oh are you seeing all of this?

(11:21):
And it's like no, And in my mind I have
a different urgent thing that I'm seeing and they're like,
what when did that happen? We cooked JJ smile, says Rod.
I really appreciate what you're saying about us being cooked
as a society. I remember when people started saying this
is my truth and me being like, well, what is
the truth. I have a friend who voted for the

(11:42):
Orange Man, and anytime I tried to discuss the harm
he was planning to do, she would cut me off
and move the gold post. So I stopped arguing and
just met her where I could. And that's for the
next Q Andon. I really think that's the FBA people,
the foundational Black Africans, the people that are very much
like black people brought in America, different than Black people
throughout the diaspora. We need specific ask and specific programs

(12:07):
that are geared towards us. But in a lot of
practice online it to me doesn't come off as what
I just said. It comes off as like this weird
diaspora warshit, and y'all know I don't play about that.
It's just not That's a non starter for me. Is
Black people hating each other because of where we're from,

(12:28):
something we cannot control. And yeah, and something that white
supremacy has taught us about each.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Other, yes on both sides.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
And I don't like the discussion because every time you
start to have this discussion, everyone talks about their slights
first and foremost, and then they get defensive when you
talk about the slights that we have impacted on each other.
And that's such a fruitless point and fruitless conversation from me.
And for example, in practice, it would be something like,

(12:58):
you know, man, these African people, well, they come to
this country and they look down on us. They think
we don't have culture and stuff, and they they they
and they think, you know, they're better than us because
they come from other countries and they're standing on the
backs of the progress that we've made and the civil
rights that we fought for, and they're benefiting from it,
and yet they still don't want to be part of
our community. And I'm not saying that's not true. I
think there's many cases where that is true.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
But if I were to also be like, yeah, I
hear you, and black people in America have been taught
that black that Africans are uncivilized and poor in the
third World, yes, and backwards and culturally, you know whatever,
it's like that shit is like no, no, no, that's different, Like,
come on, we not like we've ostracized African people in America.

(13:41):
We've ostracized Jamaican people. Sometimes not all of us, many
of our Much of our culture is very inclusive and blended.
But when we had these conversations, those blends aren't what
we talk about. We only want to talk about the
blending to offset the pointed barbs at the other side,
Like no, no, no, you know we I love some of
my favorite people Jamaican. Right after you just kind of

(14:04):
like said that Jamaicans hate us or whatever like. So
it's not that the animosity doesn't exist. It's not that
it's not true. It's not, but it's but it is
not a conversation that is going that is seeking to
be solved or seeking to be held within community. The
FBA conversation very much centers on black people who are

(14:28):
descendants of slavery, born and bred in America. They us first,
and then maybe them other black people maybe, But it
all I'm seeing is it reducing the size of blackness
smaller and smaller until the coalition is no longer a coalition.
And so leading with that question is such a disingenuous

(14:50):
thing because it's not a good catch all some people.
It absolutely is. You look at them and you go
that person is saying that because they are not American black,
and they do not a identify with American black struggle,
and they don't know enough of our history, and so
they have some stereotypes they plucked from white supremacy and shit.
And that's why, like when you see like Emanual Acho
doing conversations with a black man and it's very conservative,

(15:13):
almost republican talking points, very conciliatory towards racism. There's something
in me that goes, Yeah, that's because he's not really
identifying with black Americans. No black American is sitting there
and standing for this shit. And yet at the same
time that that, while that conflict is real, I don't

(15:34):
want to say emanual Acho is all black people from Africa,
all black people not from America, because I don't think
that's fair. So, yeah, and I think it is prime
for that QAnon shit because it's a very online movement.
You say FBA out in the general public, it's not
really that mean people. It's gonna be like, oh, y'all
know what you mean. Like it's very online the whole

(15:55):
like Tarita the sheet doctor Umar like that I'm not saying,
and it doesn't have an impact, but like I don't
walk in rooms of black people, I don't go play basketball.
And then we're on the sideline being like, well, you know, FBA.
So it feels kind of cue and nonage and that
it is very hyperbolic online but not necessarily translating to
all of our general experience.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Also it's one of those things it still seeps in
white supremacy, like like like the results are the same
the actions are the same, The conduct is the same.
You're eliminating and pushing out and saying you're not part
of almost like you're going pure blood type of thing,
and but you cloaking it in blackness. But it's but

(16:37):
the actions is this because this is the exact same
thing that white people do to us.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
White people.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Uh uh. The Jews were weren't always included. Italians weren't
always included like they did that. If you were not
you know, quote unquote pure white blood, whatever the fuck
that actually means, because we all mixed with something whatever
that means, you were excluded from the group. It's dumb.
It doesn't make sense. And like I'm like, you's we

(17:05):
can't have a conversation. We can't we Like you bring
that up, I'm leaving the room. The fuck are you
talking about? Sound dumb?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, I'm not spending all day arguing with other black
people about shit that is not it's coming from above
us and we're not finding a solution by pointing out
who who's from where? That right? Maybe if I felt
that there was something, some sort of learning education, some
sort of like commonality being reached, maybe i'd feel differently.
But I don't see that work being done. I see

(17:33):
a lot more like you shouldn't be able to talk
about this type of shit. Sometimes I look into comments
on Instagram, I realize there are so many more comments
from these crazy people than it used to be. I
also ride a love Storm shirt you were wearing. Hopefully
you're reading the new Storm series by Morella Yoda La.
He's really good and has some other comics he's created
to I have saved all those books. I haven't started

(17:56):
reading them yet, but I have. Actually Little Key literally
coincidentally just put all those on Karen's tablet in case
she wanted to read Storm. Yeah, but I saw I
got to eleven issues, like I let Storm books pile
up because too many times they start a Storm comic
and then they canceled that shit like four issues in,
and that pisss me off.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yes, I think that happened.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
It's been years since I read a Storm book, but
it was one and everybody raved about it.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Now win, I was like the fuck, and it's like,
no more.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
The art wasn't good. They switched artists too soon. Yes,
but uh yeah, I'm totally in for the Storm thing
and we'll see where it goes uh. Let's see com
the poll. The poe was, are we cooked as a society?
Ninety eight percent.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Shout out to that one person that said na though.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Shout out to you having faith.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
You are real. You're a real g for that. All right,
let's see. Let's go to the next episode, Wreckful Driving
thirty one thirty six. We got five comments on this one.
Opia says one more wrap idea driving at a reasonable
speed makes me super hot in a sexy way, not

(19:03):
the hot flashes way. All right, well, good luck. You know,
maybe that sounds different in German minnepause rap, Maybe that wraps.
Maybe that rhyme's in German. I think it needs a
little work.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
In English, that we would bring the heat. Everything would be.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Hot, Sean says, erasing one two hundred and thirty four
word message about the etymology of wreck being from the
Old English word for care scanning the room. See if
anyone noticed, I almost typed the punch down of the
weak type post nothing to see here solidly homers into
the bushes.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
That's hilarious, thanks or not?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Right now? Runner Raphael says, being someone who has who
has officially addressed as uncle since the age of twelve
of my family. I can't even pretend to be to
fake outrage when a y n caused me up because
I've been in the game before I knew the game.
I just acknowledge and laugh inside. Maybe if a wigga
addressed me as unk, it might change and I'll be like,
time to pay up, white nephew. I don't know too

(19:57):
much work for me, Oppia, says I. Poland and Poland
not related people are called and uncle's a sign of
respect by younger people. It seems to be pretty much
the same concept. Yeah, I think so, you know, I,
like I said, I don't know if it's a white
Americans don't really have it here, at least from my experienced,

(20:17):
Like they don't even say uncle, like for a stranger
to be like, hey uncle, let me get They just
they don't have it. And black people have uncle and Annie,
and yeah, I don't know. I don't know why we
don't have a white equivalent. And when people try to
give me examples of white equivalents, they're not the same
as you know, hass bass, old man, geezer, these are

(20:42):
not the same as you're part of my family. And
if anything, I think some white people might rightfully get
offended by you being called a stranger, being like, hey, geezer,
how much is gas at this gas station? Like nah?
But if you saw me coming out the gas station
was like hey, unc, let me ask you something, I
wouldn't be like fuck. Like I'd be like, oh, yeah,
what's up man?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
But I also am a little more comfortable I think
with the idea of aging, like it's just a thing.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
That happens and you can't control it.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I'm not in love with it. Like cam Aaron
where she likes being old and calling people old and
acting old. It's not that, but it's just I feel like,
you know, recognition that I've been here for a certain
amount of time. That's that's life, you know. Evie says,
I don't mind being called auntie by younger people. I'm
a middle aged woman and have no delusions about that.

(21:34):
I live up north now, but I'm from the South,
and it was always jarring to me little kids called
adults by their first names. I have always taught my
kid to add a miss or mister in front of
someone's name who is significantly older than them, because that's
a sign of respect. Y'all. I grew up that way too.
I am someone's Auntie, So if some kid or young
person called me Auntie, I don't mind. But I also
think it's a community thing as well. I don't mind

(21:56):
if other black people refer to me as Auntie. Non blacks,
it kind of feels different because they're not of the community.
I've never had a non black person refer to me
as aunt I. You're right, I wouldn't know how to
take that. Not that I'd be offended, but it would
be off It'd be off put into me to be
like what, So yeah, maybe, yeah, it definitely feel like

(22:17):
a like a cultural thing. Although now that I think
about it, I wonder what would happened if it was
like I was hanging out with an Indian family who
does say Auntie and stuff like that, and then they
called somebody Auntie. I wonder if that would feel different
where it's like, no, that's still that culturally, like that
similarity between right, you know, like if you like Kamala

(22:39):
Harris being referred to as Auntie from her black or
Indian side, I feel like there's no need for her,
and of course they are family. But I'm saying, like
that wouldn't rub me wrong, that said, I see that
as a term of endearment coming from both sides of that,
but uh yeah, interesting. And then YouTube man and we

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had a nineteen.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Comments the hell were talking about.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
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So not yet. September the second is one. It is
Sean says, nah, we do ride instead of we went

(23:48):
straight to Grandpa and it was complete disrespect. Well, at
least in Australia, we do Happy anniversary guys. Oh so
did y'all white people in Australia go straight to grandpot.
That is, you said this complete disrespect. Yeah, I can't
see it as a positive.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
No, not gramps.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, calling the stranger grams kJ tip to tip a
Ton says Chef Curry, ain't got nothing on Karen's range
from crowd work, dear brother Rod, roasting Karen, traffic talk
Tom Karen, honey baby, sweetest Southern Andy Karen. It's a
ani man cozy game of fishing Nadokaren, and of course
that she showed her response to the Treasury Department story,

(24:25):
No bitch, suck my dick, tiny cauldron of rage, thug
life Karen, and Yo. I'm here for all of it.
I'm here for all of them, although not too much
on our brother Rod. The new glass is a sharp player.
I got your back, homie. But like way back when
thug Lifecaren is on the block, I don't want them problems.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I feel you you ain't gonna have them problems. I
just ain't messing with my baby.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Nasty Nack says with a what are we going to
do with these people? Signed?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Come on? United? United? Until says someone calling me only
bothers me When it's someone my age or older calling
me That another experience I haven't had. Maybe I'll have
to have it before I feel that way, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Normally somebody younger.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I don't know why they would do that, Like what
scenario with someone my age or older refer to me
as unk? Maybe as a joke. I don't know. I'm
sure it happens. I just can't imagine. Dark namb just says,
good show. Thanks. Douglas says that Battle of the Sexes
really was a great pick right after the politics. We
all needed that.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, that was a funny one.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
When it was his kids and her birthday, that was beautiful.
Shout out to that family. That was hilarious. Damon says bro,
I rode around super dirty on multiple occasions. I forgot
to pay my tax for almost two years. Don't ask
me how that happened, because it wasn't intentional. And I
rode around my tags and my glove box intentionally for
at least a year. A few years before on another vehicle,

(25:51):
you was playing with fire, bro, I think, what's crazy
is I remember one time the DMV had my old
address and updated to my new address, and so I
had a couple of months when my tag was oh no,
I had my tag expired. And then because my apartment
complex drives around and checks the car tags at night

(26:12):
or whatever and make sure, you know whatever, people not
stealing cars or some shit. But they put a sticker
to be like, hey, your tags expired, and so it
was because of them. I literally that next morning I
saw that, cutting all my plans off, went to the DMV,
got my tag updated because I don't. I don't play man,
I just don't. And we live on the black side
of town, so cops is constantly just riding around here

(26:33):
and just doing that auto check your tag in the backshit.
And I don't ever want to get a police excuse
to pull me over for some shit that you know
they could have been avoided. You just never know. I
don't trust it.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
If I ain't got the five, that's different. But I
got the five.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah. Provocative as fuck says or provocative af what's cracking
Cuz shout out to my favorite mister and missus blackout
Tipshall conversations always on point. I got nothing belove for y'all. Karen,
you are a true powerhouse. That was politics. Now we
mad at the lol y'all the greatest. I appreciate the
content like you said a few shows ago, Rod, this

(27:07):
isn't the type of content anywhere. There isn't this type
of content anywhere. I totally agree. Thanks for viving such
a wonderful community. Be easy, y'all. Eric, the gender war
was fired to me, it was funny. Dogs, I'm dying.
We sull needed that lab Yeah, we did, and thank
you man.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
It is.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Perplexing that are the type of show we do, which
I don't see being done other places. It is perplexing
that we haven't caught on in some ways or being bigger,
but in other ways, I'm very thankful because I don't
necessarily want to deal with what comes with that, that

(27:46):
bigger stage where you've.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Seen other people go through it, it's something else.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, you see the scrutiny, and you see the inviting
opinions and that you didn't really invite that are judging
your every move and judging your every look and your
body and your clothes, and it's just you know, I've
we've dealt with that a little bit where I've read
like a form or something that just is very superficially

(28:10):
negative comment on a show and us as people, and
you know, it's like, well, I guess we should just
stay the side we are because I don't want to
be I can't even look at feedback to my own show,
you know what I mean without feeling terrible like I
don't want to go through that. JJ smile says the
segment about Rod's glasses was hilarious. I even zoomed in

(28:30):
to get a closer look. Also, Rod couldn't wait to
point out Karen was meaning him about the glasses. Yeah,
because y'all always try to make it seem like she's
sucking fucking seard. She's very she's very mean and very
rude when she wants to be funny. Really okay whatever,
And y'all, yo'all can't believe you let Karen order a

(28:52):
hot dog like she's an adult. Oh you mean you
mean a man should have stepped in, and so the
delated will have nothing but cheese and fries. Like, no,
she's an a doat and you guys treat her like
a kid. And then when she's beating me up, I
ain't got nothing to say. I love to show you guys,

(29:14):
love listening every week. Please keep it up. The Girl
on the other side of the Road says, the thing
is dse jeans are not even good. It made her
body so boxy, you know, man, I don't I try
not to comment on people's bodies too much. So this
is not a general Sydney Sweeney situation. So you know,

(29:35):
I recognize, I understand she's an attractive woman, like that's
not but also I'll die and I will never understand.
I'll never be able to know what is it that
makes white centric people like, what is it that they
think makes a butt look good?

Speaker 4 (29:56):
I'll never know because what we think is letely different.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I was like, oh, oh, we don't mean the same thing.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Because trust me, I thought the same thing. When I
saw the jeans. I was like, huh, that's not doing
her a lot of favors. And I but honest to God,
I know that, you know, Jail Covin probably got harder
than a you know, a box of rocks, like I
don't like, certain people are gonna be like, yes, that's it,
that's the butt. I'm just joking, Jail, I know you

(30:25):
like the thick Latin woman at your Catholic church. I'm
not I'm just joking.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
That was just joking.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
I wasn't really trying to slam to you for real.
But I'm just saying like there's certain people that my
whole life has been like that. I used to know
a dude that when I had white friends, he used
to be like, oh, man, butt, I'm in the butt,
So I'm in the I'm a butt man. I was like,
finally somebody with some taste around here. And then he
was seeing pictures of women or put or point out
like this celebrity or did you see this ad or whatever,

(30:54):
and every time I'd be like, I mean, sure, you
know what I mean, look at those buns. I'm like,
they're not bunned up right. I mean that's I mean,
I don't want I mean, look you like it? I
love it? You like it?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I love it? Baby.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, that is not what I was thinking of when
I closed my eyes and thought about cheeks. I wasn't
thinking of those tight buns. No, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
You know.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, and jeans are cut like different types of ways
and things like that is one of them things was
similar to you.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I looked like, I was like, okay, you know, they
they're jeans.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah. If it was uh, you know, I don't know,
like I like. And then when I would be like, oh,
but did you see like this person's cheeks. He'd be like, whoa,
that's just too much.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'm like, yeah, we're not on the same page.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Just stop talking to me then, fake poser. Anyway, thank
you for blessing us with the sports has christof a.
You know, we try to give the free listeners a
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(32:06):
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(33:28):
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Speaker 2 (33:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh and then technical show note. I initially uploaded the
audio of the nerd Off without the guest on it,
so it sounds like just me and Karen, and when
other people are talking, it's just sound like silence. I
fixed it and I have uploaded that instead, so it

(34:07):
should be everywhere Patreon, it should be in your RSS fees,
it should be on the website as well. I deleted
the old posts, so whatever posts you see there for
the latest the nerd off is the correct audio. All right,
let's see Christoph says Mike Rod. I also agree that

(34:29):
Sidney Swingy has a flat butt. I wasn't that wasn't
the point of that segment, but it is. I you know, hey,
if that's y'all like I find, you know, I don't
think people should have to feel bad about, you know,
not having a big butt. Okay, there's plenty of people
that don't have big butts, and that's okay. Okay, she
got them big old titties, and she's making a living
off of slowing them in people's faces. She know what

(34:51):
she's doing. Congratulations to her. White people don't really care
that much about butts. I still never forgive them for
what they made j low, do you know?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Right?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I also hadn't seen that ad and was wondering why
people were all right. As someone who studied propaganda techniques
at an old conservative college, this ad is conveying a
very distinct message that right, white is right. Yeah man,
And like her brother posted something about the military and
something about it being in his jeans, and I'm like,
it is giving. Look, you can feel how you feel.

(35:23):
And I definitely think there's an outside level of like
outrage and then the outside level of defense of Sidney Sweeney.
That's not about that ad at all. That's something that's
very political. It's about other shit. But the people who
are picking up on that dog whistle are white supremacists,

(35:45):
and I can't ignore that. I'm sorry if you're telling
me something's subliminally charged, and I go, I don't know,
maybe it is, maybe it isn't. The jury stops being
out when the people that would pick up on the
dog whistle are like, yep, that dog is whistling and
I'm picking it up and I and I'm defending this ad.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I started looking around going, oh, y'all, but then this
is wrong, like like that that that that's the thing
that immediately made me make like make a decision and
get out of the neutral zone.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, I also had oh yeah, so on. And there's
also another ad going around with a graffiti state in
Sydney soon he has great jeans g E N E
s and when the word jeans is crossed out and
replaced with j e A yeah. Okay, so yes, pretty blatant, uh,
Joseph says Karen stopped criticizing Roy's glasses. How dare you
call him an old whack ass geezer in front of everybody?

(36:39):
Where did the love go from?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Where?

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Did it is still here?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
From? Where did this missandry come? What about his rights
as a men's Yeah? What about my men's rights?

Speaker 2 (36:51):
What about your men's right?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Did you forget that men's eat steak and women eat salad?
I expect better from you, Karen. I got your back, Rod,
thank you? Okay, because men do eat steak and women
do eat salad. That's true. And Karen just hating on me.
Make my MoMA proud.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
You guys are not doing anything with your life. You
may not see it, but I'm trying to do I'm
trying to accomplish something, and you guys are preventing me
from that. All y'all haters, Like, I'm trying to accomplish
my dreams. If you don't like me, just block me.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I didn't do anything to you.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Uh. Cornela says some people don't like bums that make
their dis look small. I honestly think that's true. I
think that is a big thing for a lot of people,
because that's what the dude at the thing told me.
Because I was like, yeah, she got like I was
man one of the women with Serena Williams in the catsu.
I'm like Serena Wadams on my face and he was like,

(37:50):
you like all that? And I was like, who don't
like all that?

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Doesn't matter? What are we talking about here?

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Right? What are you talking? She first of all me
and the woman was gonna get the fucks Williams. So
let's just go ahead. And I don't even know why
the practicality of it matters, you know, it's not really
about that at this point. Just she fine that can
can we appreciate all that? Ass? Or? No? Is that
a problem? What a side?

Speaker 6 (38:17):
Karen?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
And Okay, Jason says Yo the murder made him take
a place at Wendy's on a weekly basis is crazy.
It's getting to be almost as dangerous as the docks,
ain't it though, Windy's in the docks meet? No, No,
let's go to the doc let.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
The docs is safer.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
I have no idea why everyone gets such a frosty reception.
There won't be food again. Two things can be true
at once. I love Rise glasses and the next ones
might look like that. But they do also give Teddy
prindergrass vibe to them.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
That's hilarious. Teddy P.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
First of all, Teddy P was one of the ones.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Okay, it didn't matter what that man had on.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Throw that Teddy p on around your mama. See what happened.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Boy, she ain't getting up about them glasses.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Okay, I'm glad that I said. I take it as
a compliment. If I'm Teddy P. Glasses ain't got the truth.
They are my latest and greatest inspirations. I think y'all
are right about uh. I think y'all are right that
you won't see white people calling each other unk. It's
the same way they don't call each other brother or sis. Well, okay,
they do do brother. I don't know if they do sis.

(39:25):
They definitely do brother, they just change it. The bro
you know likes yeah and then and of course rest
in peace. But the brother with the hart are mm hmmm,
Hulk Hogan. You know they do that brother listen brother,
like I like, like, it's really funny because it's like
two types of white people that say brother. There's the

(39:45):
Hulk Hogan like racist brother, where you like, I feel
like this man is saying brother because if he says
what he actually thinks about me, I'll have to punch
him in the face. But then there's like the John
Bernthal brother that feels like he really mean that shit.
It was like, listen, brother, you got to listen this.
You gotta focus, you gotta work out, you gotta think
about your family. You got like I believe his brother

(40:06):
way more than I BELIEVELK. Hogan's brother, but.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
His was more all inclusive.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, they do some brothers. They do some brothers, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Uh and uh.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Maybe it's because I'm from down South too, because they'll
even do brother your first name like brother, Rod.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Let me tell you something, m h you hang.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Around black people or something. It's familiar for us. I'm
rarely called uncle, but I remember the first time I
was legitimately called sir by someone who wasn't trying to
get money from me. I held the elevator for what
was probably a sixteen year old black boy. He rewarded
me with thank you, sir. It started to ruin my day.
But I had been waiting to kill all people young
fellas since Uncle would call me that as a child.

(40:45):
Now was my time. Yeah, I think that's the next
stage for me is I'm gonna start adapting some of
those things for the young people that if I'm uncle
aged then they're definitely young blood age. Now I feel
like I can see how rolls off the tongue, see
if I can make that one work. You know, young fella,
young man, I haven't done. Young young man feels like

(41:06):
what you say when you're dressing someone down or giving advice.
So I don't know if I go young man. Really
I'm not that formal. But uh, you know, maybe I
get a young blood in there, you know, uh whoop
a snapper. Maybe maybe that that's too old.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I got im about to say, yeah, you need yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Like seventy before I can hit your whipper snap on.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, you had to be of a certain age.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Say that young whipper snappers running around here smelling like
similect Alicia says Uncle Rod Quick, complaining, you know who
the start of the show is. Someone should do a
candy Man sketch skit. But instead of saying candy Man,
say Steven A. Smith, he pops up talking nonsense. That's
what he did to Michelle Obama. I feel you listen

(41:52):
wherever anyone is talking about him, he's gonna show up
to promote. That's just that's how he gets down. All right,
let me go to the next musical break.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
For some reason Psycho music saying a video version instead
of a m P three version for this one.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
That was probably by era.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, why is watch all right?

Speaker 3 (42:15):
We go so smooth steps UK groups the word I said, you.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Echo, you repeat, But my styles of fight you can't
come the eyes of my crown. Didn't you dream to
where che in the middle and know what? Keeping my
name like a block in the street, but you ain't
at the butt just to yapping beat.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
You're so jealous to me, that's up my life, Like
I'm the South and there can't keep my name.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I can't let me be everything.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
You can never.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
You mimic my moods. But you, oh man, that's dope.
It's called Jealousy Vibes, and the artwork for it is
Obama pointing at Trump's because it says keep my name
out of your mouth. I forgot to do the poll.
Do you get offended at being referred to as uncle
or auntie? Yes? Six percent, fifty nine percent no, and

(43:08):
then thirty five percent. No one's referred to them as
unc or auntie yet, so.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Jack jaxaid that depends on your agent where you are.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yes, So I put it in there just in case.
Last episode of the week was thirty one thirty seven
Little Boosy Collins Wipe Man Down Baby apparently, so shout
out to Uncle vob he made.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
That that is It's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I put it on our Instagram and stuff legally. Feisy
says the laugh I let out at work when I
realized Karen thought Boozy Collins was Little Boozy. Karen is
Barbara Howarding like she never Barbara Howarded before. Ronan Raphael
says a Karen defense, My mom was also on Little
Boosy too. Now, I'm sure that seeing the episode title
first before playing the clip didn't help. When you got

(43:55):
to that story, So we're not caring. As Michael Jackson
was said, you are not alone, by the way, about
the firing and rehiring by the genius in chief. One
of my military sources in California has revealed how w
indulged came to their top secret facility. They tried to
get rid of people in the twenty to forty plus
years experience, most of whom had top secret clearances. Some

(44:16):
said find them out, others thought this was over three
months ago. They replaced the fire folks with nineteen to
twenty year old kids. Way cheaper, right. The only problem
is that there's usually a handover person living shows you
the ins and outs of the system you're taking over.
For nineteen year old could be I guess, nineteen year
old could be a genius, forty year old experience in

(44:37):
a government forty year experience in the government system that
knows that shit can set traps everywhere and waste that
nineteen year old time equals money wasted. They started reaching
out the firefolks in time, but like Karen pointed out,
while return back when you have now have leverage and
cert Toby Maguire showed me the money. Toby McGuire, Show
me the money, Jerry McGuire showing that's a good one.

(45:01):
Toby maguire was fighter man, that's a good one. That's
funny how you started off talking about little Boosy and
Toby maguire showed me the money. That's good.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I'm featuring him in that venom suit dancing out, show
me the money. Uh entering negotiations cause those dummies in uh,
because those dummies uh in trying to make a noise.
Who alerted world intelligence agencies? And everyone has been throwing
money at fired Americans and switch teams. The call is
going to be astronomical. When we add three hundred k
black women, damage research, stop programs, and a lot more

(45:37):
including fire to rehire federal workers.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
And two kinds of Roger's points, you're all going to
have some people just gonna have to come back no
matter what. But it's going to be a small percentage
of people going no, if I come back, it's going
to be a consultation free if you're not willing to
pay that, don't waste my fucking time.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
And I also just wonder what happens with I wonder
what happens with people like, there's gotta be people who
have been waiting for folks with that much inside information
on the government to be available elsewhere, whether in private functions,

(46:14):
where the other countries, other governments. It's just like it's
got to be a big security risk too.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Yeah, And it's also one of them things because Trump
don't give a fuck about American security, y'all. I don't
think people understand. People don't understand a lot of the
shit he's doing is putting America at risk, just in
general and mass just period. You know, shit that people
have been trying to get for years. He just basically
let it out, loose, let it in the while it's

(46:41):
facale like he actually does not care about the fundamental things,
you know, to this country. And so, like Rogerick said,
I feel like a just like in other countries, when
this shit started happening, people leave these countries and they
go to other places. You know a lot of people
I lived Germany, and when did they come They came

(47:02):
to America. A lot of these people, A percentage, not
a lot, percentage of these people are going to start
leaving and they're going to go to other countries and
they gonna take a lot of their resources, knowledge and
wisdoms and start implementing these things and the countries it's
bound to happen.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Now.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Oh, by the way, it's thanks to y'all that I
got on Patriot to support others. I didn't pay attention
back in the beginning when I first joined the Blackout
Tells Nation. Then after you had three guys on this guest,
I decided the once and for all support all in
one moments. Spit hours searching for the Blackout Tills on
Patroon and was wondering why I couldn't find it after
finding all the podcasts that you guys introduced me to. Later,

(47:39):
as I was written as it's written in the Wise books,
I shined my eyes and was like oops and went
premium the right way. It worked out, so thanks to
introducing me to Patroon years ago. Sean says, I had
two comments in my head for this show after getting
home from my midnight walk. But then I saw that
the Japanese superman Dean Kane, whose grandparents are in concentration
camps in the US during World War two of those

(48:03):
internment camps, yup, is joining the Brown Shirts aka ICE.
I guess only in America. Can people survive a concentration
camp only to see their grandson put other innocent people
into a concentration camp? Or worse, it's the American dream.
He also did leave to more comments. Comment on the show,
one doge claims to have one hundred and eighty billion dollars.
They have actual receipts for about a quarter of that,

(48:25):
but based on my back of the envelope calculation, those
savings will likely cost America up to one point eight
quadrillion dollars in damages, depths, economic decline, and weakening of
our international diplomatic position. I may be slightly off, but
I can guarantee my numbers are more accurate than dogs.
Comment on the show too, this is the third comment.
You can't trick me by not counting that first one.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
How long?

Speaker 1 (48:47):
How long until the verb to doge has a broadening
of meaning from unlawful firing to simply simply fucking up?
He really doged that lay up there. If you had
any questions, don't ask Johnson. He's a real doge. I
think his uncle is on the board or something. That's funny.
Sofa King says, regarding the pole question, not only no,
but hell no, I don't like when random people talk

(49:07):
to me period. The pole question was do you like
when random people talk to you about the clothing you're wearing? Ie? Sports, teens, movies, anime.
We'll get to those results later. Ms. Barr says, I
consider my graphic t shirts as great conversation starters. Everyone
knows I love Attack on Titan way too much, so
conversation is spark when other nerves see my anime sci
fi transformer pop culture fit. I love wearing out the

(49:28):
blackouts Bob's Burger shirt, and folks do ask what's up
with the black Bobs Burger's characters? I simply mentioned as
a podcast I love listening to and they should too.
Thank you. That's why we do it eve, He says,
as a little more to that, Nicki Minaj's challenge, because
I knew it would be a matter of time before
someone got hurt. Not only are the people balancing their
tire weight on the ball of one foot, they're balancing
on ridiculously tiny areas, like on top of tiny boxes.

(49:51):
Someone did it on top of a soda can. Someone
did it on the street sign. I saw a ballerina
do it on point so that Russian influencer was a
new Not only was she trying to balance the top
of her kitchen calendar, she was trying to balance on
top of a baby formula. Can Oh, of course she
was bound to bust her ass. That's just crazy, Because
Nikki did her challenge on solid ground. You could tell

(50:11):
me that Aby Graham didn't cancel his tour because he
wasn't selling out venues. I don't think his ego would
have taken the extra humiliation. I mean, you can't tell me. Okay,
I'm sure he's now in his feelings because Kendrick's super
Bowl performance hasn't now been nominated for in mey, this
may be the biggest l in music history. I says
I can do the challenge on solid ground thanks to yoga,

(50:31):
but wouldn't try it somewhere dangerous because I enjoy staying alive. Well,
that didn't sound like a rule breaker of me. If
you're not gonna do it on a stack of milk
crakes oup here, then you ain't really a rule breaker, Obvia,
says Karen. I'm also over forty and an aspiring rapper.
You have heard about my future killer tracks, but I'm
not putting all my eggs into the rap basket and

(50:53):
keep my job, please do. I guess you don't believe
in yourself. All right, let's check what this said. Oh
my god, nineteen comments on YouTube. What the fuck boy?
Y'all are on it? Man? I won't do the emoji ones.
Ray Gunn says that BRA was epic. Yeah, and what's
funny is that's the episode of the blackout tips that

(51:15):
they took off of YouTube, saying we were in sight,
we were encouraging violence, which is which is crazy, which
is ridiculous, And the biggest thing about that they had
the whole fucking brawl on there with no problems. You
can look at the BRA on YouTube, but.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
You couldn't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
But I could. You couldn't look at me talking about it, laughing,
not going, yeah, y'all know this show, this is not
the show for man. We really love violence. Go beat
them people up. That is not what we do here,
right YouTube Provocative AF says, what up? Fam Ao, Karen?
You cracked me up the one twenty nine Mark classic

(51:50):
that was fucking fucking Jordan's Game six. This show is
super funny and real. Rob My guy, you're the most
interesting nigga in the world. Hella, hilarious, love y'all, great show.
Damn on gress the race Deborah Mason in America would
be black woman, would be black woman, loll moving a
ton of ya yo and calling herself queen be Yeah. Damn,
Now that's a connect. Yeah. I guess it's different over there.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
And though it's different, they.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Got all kind of grand ma'ams moving that motherfucking don't
do that weight dark Namber says, we called that corporate knowledge.
Good episode thanks to shit, just says Wonderbread White don't
even know which Yes that was for. Jay Full says
Karen's little boozy tank has to be on the Mount
Rushmore tanks. That was Kobe dropping eighty one on Jalen

(52:36):
Rose level of greatness. I laughed on my side in
my cheeks hurt. I'm envious a Rod though, because he
didn't see that tank coming.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I don't think nobody's seen it coming. Yeah, neither did I.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
The show title gave me a hint, right, Well, maybe
Rod did see it coming, but you know what I mean, No,
I didn't I know what she was talking about. I
was genuinely confused, But I think that's what makes it good.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Right, Like you'd be telling me, I don't know what
he's going on in that brain.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I really needed that laugh. Thank you, Karen. I am
Talisha says I stopped hearing anything y'all talked about after
seeing that nasty cop and that young dude doing their
own version of Nicki Minaj's challenge on that bike.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Oh my god. H you just think about having your
legs spread ass up with the cops just nestled warmly
all up against you. Just think about what they when
they go over bumps or take off from the red light.
You know that copy is being Joss that pushed all
up against that purp. I hope he sues. How humiliating.
I literally have my face scrunched up and discussions I
write this, why do you do that to your audience? Right,

(53:41):
I'm about to get me a shot at tequila or three.
Finished watching this episo, by the way, love y'all, damn,
I can't unsee that.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
And the thing for me, I mean, you know, obviously
it was funny, but to me, that is why I
shared it.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
But the thing that's.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
So interesting to me is like my first reaction was
like to check myself. Was like, wait, am I'm being
homophovid because it's two dudes and I thought of it.
I was like, no, it really wouldn't matter who was
on the front or the back of that bike.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Would not that matter.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
That's an insane thing for that cop to do. Just wait,
just wait, wait, is it an emergency?

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I need to go to jail.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
I think we can wait. I'm gonna still be in
custom to here.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
He can wait fit him to come three blocks over
to put me in the back of a car.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
You can't ride me down my own street like that.
I can't never live here no more. None of your bid,
says talking about DOGE layoffs. So I'm gonna retired. Ohio
County it support government worker. The costume miss management has
always overlooked. The majority of elect officials and their chief
deputies have no office management experience when they assume office.
It is common to see people with ten plus years
experience get chased out of the office when a new

(54:46):
person is elected. It took them three months to hire
my replacement, and I've seen some key positions not replaced
it until the next fiscal year. Watching the ineptitude unfold
is really spectacular, and the general republic has no idea
what goes on, nor do they see the financial or
administrative missteps resulting from the new people having to learn
on their own. There is very little to zero cross

(55:06):
training of job positions. The incompetence is amazing, but they
have the authority because they were elected or appointed by
an elected officer. You can't make this ish up. And
I could entertain you for days about my twenty three
years of serving government literally pissing money away. Seriously, by
the way, politics until you Get Mad has replaced guests.
The race is my favorite segment. Y'all get five stars
every episode from me. Wow, thank you back. I really honestly,

(55:30):
it really does mean a lot that y'all like that
segment because that's a tough that's a tough one to do,
and it's what I want to do all the time.
But I feel like we have a responsibility to do it,
and it matters to me that it is coming through
to y'all in a way that you still can be
entertained and informed and fill some level of some level

(55:51):
of like kinship to us.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Yeah, And it's also one of those things that these
things have to be talked about because we would not
be too to ourselves if we ran away from these things, right,
you know, because so many people have literally talked everything
was about politics. Now they don't talk about politics at all,
like they just literally just left the realm for whatever reasons.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Not funny, and.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
I get that, But because of what we do and
how strongly we feel about this country, about democracy, about
voting and things like that, it would be an injustice
to our audience not to continue to talk about these things.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Yeah, I also just feel like I want people to
not feel alone how they feel about stuff, because I
know for me, a lot of times, you know, if
I consume or watch anything political, I feel that angerizing,
that what the predicament we put ourselves in, And a

(56:53):
lot of times that's not okay. On the plat forms
where people are talking these things, it's still very much
like sports to them, where you know, not even sports,
it's just very much like a theory to them, it's entertainment.
A lot of a lot of what is valued in

(57:18):
that space is this idea of not being too emotional.
And it doesn't matter if they're experts, that they're just
some asshole giving a pinion it's just we're talking about
it like this, you know what I mean? Or oh,
isn't this a pithy point? Or hmm, this is sarcastic
as opposed to being like no, this is kind of infuriating.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Yes, yeah, And it's also having you guys write in.
It's confirmation that we're going to continue to do it.
But it's also one of those things where like rogers say,
things happen and you see things. And I love the
platform of the podcast, like because it's long form. I
love the fact that you can get a whole thought
out without being interrupted.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I'm just keeping it real.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
You can flesh your anger out and your frustration out
and to and explain why you know, without like, like
I said, the consistent rebuttal and interruption and things like that,
because a lot of times that shit makes you think
you're crazy when you talk to people and you're like, hey,
I know what I'm saying is valid, I know what

(58:21):
I'm saying is true, and people come at you like
you're the lunatic because they don't want to talk about it,
they don't want to discuss it, or they want to
run away from the truth. I don't want an audience.
To be ignorant, you have to know what's happening. Yes,
you you know, taking in bits and pieces however you
want to. But you can't just be oblivious to the
things that happened around you.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Yo, the newspaper couldn't spell out the honky and honky kong.
I didn't know that word got the hard r treatment.
They want one so bad, don't they so crazy? It's
so funny when they try to censor stuff like that.
You're like, come on, y'all know it's not the same.
It's not the same, says Yo Man. I was watching

(59:01):
Don Limmit earlier. He was talking about politics, and he
got mad as fuck. I thought about the two of
you doing politics till he get mad. After you said
Maggo was stupid as fuck, he said, I'm done. I
said politics still, Don Lemic is mad. You look at
him stealing the show, then you get mad. Give us
our credit, Kim Doc said, shout out to Jeff Duncan.
He has been on the side of upholding this thing
for a long time. It takes courage to do what

(59:22):
he's doing. The cop on the motorcycle with the suspect
man that looks like two to three deaths just waiting
to happen. Balancing on the bike could be disrupted by
any random thing, unreal and foolish in practice, right, and
like why did the cop upload that? That's crazy because
they were the ones that uploaded it. Like sometimes when
you don't get the van or the police squad car,

(59:44):
you gotta do it yourself. Was like, and then you
showed the world, right. Kim Doc says a lot of
the Nicki Minaj's challengers showed it behind the scenes and
someone's literally helping them onto the elevated service surface, holding
their hand until they set, and then filming quickly as
they circle around them. Then they ca ask them before
they fall. These women are wabbling an unsteady entire time
of the videos. Or Petter show them stealing nothing bother

(01:00:05):
that wouldn't recommend it. Little bootsye caring is my favorite.
I'm crying right now. Yes, uh, I was like, I.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Ain't no way that man seventy years old and that's
why I was so confused.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Yep, I'm just picturing Bootsy Collins saying all the little
boozy stuff. You don't know, people shouldn't be gay. Baby.
I don't know if he said. That's probably not what
little Boosy says exactly, but you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I'm gonna help my son get some pussy. He's only ten.

Speaker 6 (01:00:36):
No funky like that, No funky groover's in your heart?
Hell roun with you show us pants, chest shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
This It says, I'm not an anime guy, but I
have to a grip of eighties and ninety shirts that
I wear that definitely spark random convos. My homie Decline
shirt has caused many a middle aged white man to
approach me part of me, which is that within the
tiny desk rather than with tiny desk, rather than move it.
People need to fill the full consequence of losing public broadcasting,

(01:01:12):
people stepping in and softening the blows. What made people
think Trump one point oh didn't suck as much as
it did. The biggest victim in all of this Sydney
swinging controversy has got to be Britney Mahomes replaced. Yeah, yeah,
that's true. She the new Maga Mama. The only thing
lazier than Charlemagne's political opinions are the people who keep
booking him to talk about politics. I still don't get

(01:01:32):
how he's the one, despite this current Trump beef. In
the end, he will always try to the fence. Yeah,
it's just coming Like, I don't even celebrate these moments
because they're empty to me. I saw Jimmy Kimmel had
Greg Gutfield on his late night show and did a
softball interview with him, Greg gutt Field as a host
of a late night conservative talk show on like Fox

(01:01:55):
News Fox, and I was about to ask you who, Yeah,
this is a piece of shit. And I remember people
were like all over themselves when the other white guys,
the other Jimmy's showed up to support Stephen Colbert by
going on this podcast. And it's like, look at this,
the white guys, Jon Stewart, Jimmy Camel, Jimmy Jimmy Fallon

(01:02:18):
and and and uh, and they're supporting Steve to show
like this Trump administration shit is some bullshit. And then
here comes Jimmy Kimmel with fucking Gutfeld on the show,
and you're like, why did they ever praise this? Were
you there? Because you were like, we're standing up against fascism,
we're standing for freedom of speech. We're standing up against

(01:02:41):
a government and a company that would appease that government
that is unfairly persecuting the man. No, you did it
because you feel we are all entitled to having a
late night show, no matter how much fucking money it's losing.
We are America, and in this case, you can't just
tessel a white god show, even if it's losing twenty

(01:03:01):
forty million dollars a year. And that's essentially not the
right thing to support. So you're not gonna actually go
on your platform and be like, man, fuck Trump, fuck
these conservatives. Fuck. You know. You're not gonna get Greg
Gutfeld on your show and say, hey, man, you're a
free speech warrior. What do you think about Stephen Cobert
losing this show? You know, where's Joe Rogan on this?

(01:03:25):
Where's Steve o Vaughn on this? Shit? Yeah? Fuck y'all.
Anyway to oh finally, oh wait, he says, they give
him the reputation of being unafraid to tell the truth.
But there's no greater coward than the media landscape, I
guess talking about Charlot Magne. Finally, Karen following up the

(01:03:49):
Jeff Bridges tie Bridges incident with the little boozy boosy
Collins incident. In this podcast magic. I know y'all don't
rock with drake, but she went back to back back.
It's a good song.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I like, I like that song.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Yeah, that's fine, all right, that's everybody for YouTube the Poe.
Do you like when random people talk to you about
the clothing you're wearing? II? Sports, teens, movies and anime?
Fifty forty don't, which is still kind of high, but
I think I count myself in the fifty nine percent. Man.
I like if I'm wearing something that is personal to

(01:04:24):
me in a way of like I am a fan
of this, and you decide like, oh man, I like
that too, or did you see this? That's to me
that's a great conversation starter compared to you know, just
not like I said, not knocking this, but compared to
just lovely weather we're having, or right about that draft
is most specific? Yeah, I prefer like, oh man, have

(01:04:44):
you watched the Entertainment District Arc of Swords, Slayer of Demons? Slayer? Yes,
let's talk about that. All right. That's it for that segment.
Let's get to these voicemails. Play another one of these
new beats from uh from Psycho Music.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
She paints his worlds with counterfeit gold, Every promise.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Breaks, every soul he sold.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
The mirror cracks but he won't see a metal masks,
not reality clouds, wild cheer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
But they don't know what's Perry. He needs to show
you loyalty, all right? I think that's about Trump too,
can you corruption? All right? We got three voicemails in
it all from dre Okay, let's see what he had

(01:05:38):
to say.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Hey, what's up, Harry. It's Drake. I got two voicemails.
You know what I'm saying. It's been a while. I
got to I'm gonna try.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
And be quick.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
The first thing in the feedback episode when y'all were
talking about how people loved these conspiracy so much and
how they sold plied the bank and he's fucking suspirit,
I gotta. I really do have a theory on that
shit and it and what made me come to it
is just seeing how much people enjoy conspiracy theory, like

(01:06:11):
you'll even like I even heard people in real life
like talking to each other like, oh you like conspiracy theories.
I love conspiracy theories too, And it made me realize
that the conspiracy theory thing is a fucking game. At
this point, like it's not actually a serious thing, but
it has serious implications, right, you know what I'm saying,

(01:06:32):
It's really just people, Like I don't really know any
other way to put it, Like it is people just
making it up. It's people seeing something and instead of
like doing the research to figure out how it is
that that happened or why it is that that happened,
instead of doing that, they just they jump into the
conspiracy game and they like to play it with other people,

(01:06:53):
and they like to play it in front of people.
So like, the whole point is for me to come
up with this this alter reality, alternate reality where this
thing occurred, and you are just not smart enough to
see that, or you just believe too much in the
status quo to understand what it is that we see.

(01:07:13):
It's an extension of the shit that we always say,
which is just that like makeing shit up, make a
dumb motherfucker feel smart. And conspiracy is where the playing
field is equal for everyone. If we're all just talking
about let's make some shit up together, feel like your
made up cheat is just as valuable as my made
up hit, and you can't qualify your shit with fact.
And I can't qualify. It's just a game that motherfucker's play,

(01:07:37):
a dangerous ass game that has just led us all
fucked up. And that's really it. I don't think the
conspiracy is people trying to make sense of shit. I
don't think that's people searching for truth. I literally think
it's this motherfucker's playing around with information because they think
the shit is cute.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
It's just yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Yeah, I told you. I was at the optometrists and
one of the people the assistants, said, I listen to podcasts. Okay,
what kind of podcast you listen to? And she goes
conspiracies and I was like, okay, like name which one?
What podcasts? She couldn't even name one. I was like, okay,
like I have nothing to add to this conversation. And

(01:08:16):
I truly do think it's dangerous. And I think part
of what makes the conspiracy thing dangerous is everyone thinks
you can play around with it just a little bit.
Everyone thinks you can do just a little bit. And
I get it. We all think, you know, yeah, it's harmless,
just a little bit. But I just think when you
look at the bigger picture of what is affecting so

(01:08:39):
many people who seem to have just completely lost their way.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
And lost track reality.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Yeah, you realize like, oh no, it's there is no
just a little bit for this shit. It's kind of
like the slippery slope. And next thing you know, you're
like birds aren't real or some shit, or you're or
what I think is even more important, you allow the
other people who believe very dangerous conspiracies to not feel

(01:09:06):
like they're they're out to lunch, you know. So when
they believe Pizzagate, they're not out to lunch because you're
you're saying, well, I also believe in some bullshit too,
and we're just having fun, you know, so it is
dangerous to me. He left two more voicemails.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
All right, great again, that's his number two. So, oh,
while back ride, you said something that I don't think
what's supposed to be the funniest thing I ever heard
of my life, But for whatever reason, it just stuckn't.
And he was talking about Church's chicken, and he was
saying that they slogan it should really be good. Well,

(01:09:48):
when I tell you that shit lives rent free in
my mind and faces that it should not, I have
the proof. So the other day I'm sitting minding my
own business. Paul, All my family is gone. I say,
you know what, fuck it, I'm about to watch me
a little adult entertainment, you know what I'm saying. So
I'm getting my scroll on, you know what I'm saying,

(01:10:09):
And I'm thinking to myself, if that with my VPN
actors because I'm in Texas, you know what I'm saying.
We can't even watch no titties in Texas. But anyway,
so I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling and I see a name
of a of an adult film pactress that I've seen before,
but I've never seen any of her any of her video.

(01:10:30):
So I say, fuck, let's check this girl out. So
I click on it. Watching a video beginning of a video,
she got on clothes, as that happens in the beginning
of a video sometimes. Then she comes off the first
layer of clothes, the shirt she still got on the ball,
and I'm like, oh, damn, that's the big titties because
the titties didn't look big in the shirt. You know
what I'm saying. He didn't look big in the shirt.
So I'm still watching. And then she takes the bra

(01:10:52):
off and the titties come out, and I'm like, God, damn,
those titties are real. Tho those be and real? And
then what my mind does next is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yeah, nah, I really did think I discovered something with that.
And this is the thing where like, uh, in my mind,
it's so funny. But then, you know, when we do
the show and I'm presenting these ideas to Karen and
the audience, I don't know if they'll find it as
funny as I do. I always help somebody get out
there finds it as funny as I did, say with me,

(01:11:36):
and yeah, of course, yeah, I'm just speaking for myself.
But because you just never know, it's a live show
and we're not practicing and running this by each other.
We're not doing bits, and sometimes even when I'm trying
to do a bit, you know, Karen will interject and
take it in the angle she wants to take it.
Sometimes she shuts jokes down to be like, oh no,
don't you know, Like I wanted to do a whole

(01:11:57):
thing about people dancing and chicken commercials, and then you
just shut it down so I couldn't get to any
of the jokes. No, this is just I've done it
to you. It just happens. My point is, I think
the control freak producer part of the mind is like, oh,
you gotta go back, you gotta do those jokes, you
gotta start over, you gotta all that segment was ruined.

(01:12:20):
It's not gonna work. And I think over the years,
I've just learned like, no, somebody got it, despite how
I might feel like I didn't really go over well
or we didn't get in the rift or a jag
about it in the way that I would have liked
to get into it in my brain when I was
writing this down a lot. You never know what lives
on in people. And I think all the time that Chicken,

(01:12:40):
Big and Good is such a like if churches stole that,
I wouldn't even be mad because it's because like that
is what they are. Yep, it don't cost that much
and them chickens is fucking huge. Yeah, that should be.
If they stole that, they that could be they love
that chicken that Popaey's, they could be that chicken and

(01:13:01):
I'd be like, yup, all right. Last one from Drag Again.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Aaron three voicemails in one week. It's crazy work. I understand,
we'll never make this a happy When y'all were talking
about the government employees getting fired and then rehired, y'all
were talking about how much money it cost and all that.
But the one thing that I remember when y'all said

(01:13:28):
that is that this shit was a part of Project
twenty twenty five, firing off all these people and then
replacing the people in those supervisory roles with other conservative
leaning people, and then tasking them with attempting to filter

(01:13:49):
out those more progressive people so that all the people
who are within but like, because that's what was stopping
the Trump administration the first time around.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Yes, sir, he might put.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
A dickhead in charge. It's a dickhead in charge of
people who have been abiding by the rule of law
for the entirety, like their public service. They're not gonna
They'll do whatever the fuck shit is if it's within
the bounds of the rules and the law. So like
most of them, like like you always say, are rule followers,
because most of us are rule followers. Yes, I think

(01:14:24):
that what we're seeing in that is a purge of
those rule followers to replace them with people who believe
in ideology, not the rule of law. But whenever they
want to do fuck shit, there's less people who the
people who were really the saviors when we thought it
was gonna be one or two Republicans and senators and

(01:14:44):
some shits to actually.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Do the right things.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
The people who really saving us from that on that
first time around were the regular ass people who just
work their government job and was like, nah, we can't
do that. Weren't willing to go through with some of
the shit that they would be willing to do. And
I think they trying to get rid of those motherfuckers
and bring in some assholes like them, and that was

(01:15:06):
the plan.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
All last Yeah, sick.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Yeah, the rules and I called back for weeks that
plenty black guys who kids.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Yeah, it's all good, right. The rules that they follow
are based on loyalty, not the law, and so they
are rule followers as well, but just they have a
different code as you said. But yeah, most of the
people that are rule followers are not prepared for the revolution.
They're not fit to do shit. They're not taking back
the government offices. They're not going to be shooting at
the agents the way that the MAGA people were last

(01:15:37):
a couple of years ago. Like it's a very sick
world we're living in, and uh yeah, a lot of
people are the last and only hope for them fighting
is going to be in the voting booth because they're
not built for nothing else. And I personally am almost
at this point offended when people try to pretend that

(01:15:59):
we're going to have a liberal revolution, like like, like,
it's such a it's such a deviation from every fucking
thing we know about history in America that it's like,
I feel like it basically helps people that are authoritarians.
It helps Trump to be like, no, we'll just wait

(01:16:20):
for the liberal revolution to kick off. We're gonna be
like friends, No, we're not. So now what are we
gonna do now that we know that that's not happening?
What what are we gonna do? Because we're not gonna
save ourselves because you're gonna go get guns and do shit.
You're not gonna do that. So can we come up
with some actual shit that you might want to do?
Cause I know some easy ones that you may lose

(01:16:42):
the right to do if you keep fucking around. You
know might already be too late.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
So let's not kid ourselves.

Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
Right, for me when people say that I ain't trying
to be funny. I almost have to calm myself down
when people say that statement, because I don't say.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Motherfucker you do you got a gun?

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Do you own a gun? Are you willing to go
out in the street. Are you willing to shoot somebody?
Are you willing to kill somebody? If not, what are
the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Your lie ying?

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
The simple thing to do, the easiest thing to do,
the thing that takes the least amount of effort, was
getting your black ass in the voting pole and motherfucking
vote and you can do that ship for god.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Damn free and you refuse to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
So what makes me think.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
You're gonna cup up, You're gonna pay for something when
you wouldn't run to do the free ship?

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
All right, let's go to the emails. We'll play a
song between those that one's called lover Girl. That's so good.

(01:18:14):
All right, finally emails, last segment, our girls see it
right saying nigga non feedback show the concept that you're
still talking through about black people or leftists also have
this conspiratorial alternative reality where every little thing is out
to get them. It's definitely real. As someone who is
diagnosed heavy on the diagnosed by a professional neurodivergent person,

(01:18:37):
I recognize a lot of patterns within media and pop
culture that remind me of World War two, Civil war propaganda,
or even just white supremacist playbook. I think the difference
is not that is not catastrophic every time I see it,
and I recognize that it's not always intentional on the
part of the advertising agency, or to be real, Levis
should have thought about that ship first. Beyonce was already

(01:18:58):
saying it on Cowboy Car. I think the significance is
that a nigganon thinks everyone else is too stupid and
uneducated and not exceptionally black enough to recognize it, and
that it's their duty to shout it from the rooftops,
and b that it requires constant dissection and conversation. Listen,
everything you're writing right now is bars. Those are the

(01:19:19):
bars to the bars. That last part because that constant
dissection and conversation is also means that your constant feeling
of creating content is your revolution. Like you're you're fighting
through getting tiktoks. Now, if the tiktoks also happen to

(01:19:42):
give you a big dopamine rush if you're getting paid
off this content, if you're you know, if now you
feel like everyone's like give treating you like a hero
and an activist that you always meant to be hard
to separate that between the two yourself from that, let's
get your ego out of it. Just because the camera's

(01:20:05):
always pointed at us on social media, So it's no,
there's it's it's almost yeah, it's almost like the pattern
is predetermined to eventually be My head is now the
size of fucking you know, Mars, because I'm I'm the
most important person on the earth. How else is anyone
going to say black people if it's not for me
and the conspiracies that I'm seeing and and I think

(01:20:27):
that's what I was reacting to with the Sydney swinging
thing was not that it was impossible for it to
be offensive. I'm more I'm less inclined to believe that
it was purposely like offensive, even like like where they
just went, fuck our gene campaign, fuck American egle. We
want to be known as the brand that you know

(01:20:49):
got canceled over this bullshit because I don't. Because the
problem the reason I say I don't believe it is
because the racist people don't support shit. So while you
might say we're a race and we would like racist
people to also nowhere racist them. Racist people ain't running
out the buy American ego just because Sydney Sweeney was
in that ad, because they just don't support it. They

(01:21:11):
destroy shit. The way they support shit is bonding and
destroying it. They support more liberal shit by buying the
beers to be transphobic than to be like, I'm buying
the beer cause straight white Americans to drink this beer.
It's so fucking anyway. Sorry, all that to say like, yes,
I think it wants and then once you're in for
a penny on making this, I'm seeing the real world.

(01:21:35):
This is how it really is. No one's gonna tell
you the truth. Once you're doing that type of content,
you have to keep going yes and everything has to
be ten. So there is no Yeah, I saw the
American ego and it was weird, like there's nothing. You
can't be like that because now you're out of the
fucking the black Nigganon people group. You gotta be like

(01:21:58):
I saw it and it is out to destroy black
children or whatever, like so I do think that that
is definitely a big part of it. And yeah, and
then when you don't agree or you just go, I
don't know if I feel like this one is as
important or this one is as intentional, you lose some
standing like, oh, so you're too stupid to see it.

(01:22:20):
Oh you're not black, you're not pro black enough to
see it. And you're right. It's that community. That social
standing is still important to people, whether the it's digital
or human or in person. People want to feel and
held in high esteem. And so why would you come
out and be like, guys, not this one. No, you
got to come out and be like, yes, this one too.

(01:22:40):
It's all fucked up. I've watched a lot of my
peers fall into this trap, believing the whole world should
be viewed through an academic leans all the goddamn time.
And I just think it's it's it isn't. I don't
think it's a sustainable way to live.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Yes, it's not. Yeah that man, we'll cooked bro. Once,
once academics got a hold of what it's like to
be seen as socially important on social media, it did change,
like even Twitter and Facebook, because like when you started out.

(01:23:15):
It was like Facebook was for your college friends, MySpace
for your people you know in real life. But my
Space wasn't like let's go write a long blog, let
me show you know, that kind of thing. I really
think it was like around Twitter, where like writing was
super important, and also the academia people really was like

(01:23:36):
this my time to shine. I'd say Tumblr, maybe a
little bit before that was even more important. Tumblr is
the most slept on app of all of them because
Tumblr was the place where it was four pictures, but
they weren't necessarily for pictures of yourself, so it was
like I'm gonna write a blog post here, so another
person gonna write, you know, breakdown of Rick and Morty episodes.

(01:23:58):
Another's gonna do this. And that's where I think the
competition to really be the most like how can I
apply academic ideas outside of an academic setting to pop culture?
And we have never recovered from that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
No, we haven't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
And there's nothing wrong with them blending, don't get me wrong,
but there is a time that they are separate for
a reason because there are times, particularly and academia, when
you're based in facts, which means it's not about who's popular.
It's not about who's flowery, you know, it's about these
are the things based off my research, based off my studies.
You know, this has been peer to pre review, whatever,

(01:24:34):
whatever the whatever you need to do to get the
shit published. Like like, once you get to a certain
level that's completely different than the general public to just
be spewing bullshit based on how they feel.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Yeah, and those apparatuses are not even on social media, right,
so it maybe not the first time, but eventually it's
like pure review for what you know, I feel this
way and I am right this thing, and does it
need one hundred percent proof? Not really, And I feel
like that was probably the first time I saw stuff

(01:25:08):
like that was on Tumblr for me anecdotally. But now
I'd say the majority of a lot of our pop
culture content feels like some form of academic academia talking
styles and points applied to things without the rigor or
the like you said, all the apparatus is around academia.

(01:25:30):
So now you got people just writing shit on huffing
it post with no editor and people can tag that
article and be like, see somebody else said it, so
it must be true anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
And also when it comes to academia, you know, and
other genres. All that stuff lost its professionalism once you
started moving it over because you know that there was certain,
like I said, laws and billows and all this shit
that you have to do in these areas of expertise
that you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Don't have to do in the masses.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
And a lot of times what they're taking, they're taking
these facts and number of statistics, whatever these things is,
and they're feenix to the general public because these things
have gone through whatever rigorous thing that they need to
go through. So, yeah, the publican argue and deciphering all
that shit. But what they can't do is go against
your work, because your work would stand the test of time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Yeah, I still remember. A big inflection point was when
Bell Hooks wrote about or did a pend on. She
talked about how she wasn't banging with Beyonce's version of
feminism and she didn't find it to be revolutionary at all.
And I'm not It's not to me about right and
wrong necessarily, it's about that's Bell Hooks. I'm pretty sure

(01:26:43):
Belle hook is entitled to her opinion. You can't cite
her as this amazing feminist, womanist and revolutionary thought maker
and also be like, but fuck that, you don't be
talking about the beehive, I'll fuck you up, you know.
And people are very dismissive of her because people love Beyonce,
which you know, I get, but they weren't treating her

(01:27:04):
as an academic giving her academic opinion that was in
line with pretty much all her other academic opinions. She
became a hate nas bitch that didn't like Beyonce because
Beyonce pretty or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Like, so my point being, social media wasn't really the
place for this and that pressure. She didn't folte under
that pressure because she's Bill Hook. She's like, Okay, y'all
don't like me. I think I'll be okay. My whole
life been like that, right, But imagine so many other
people who have a different set of a different set

(01:27:40):
of motivations who are like, no, on my scale, being
liked by people is way up here. So my academic
points and shit gonna lead to like, how do I
get the most people to like me as opposed to
how do I you know, how do I feed my
ego less than how do I tell the real truth?
And I think that that's a part of it. And

(01:28:01):
then also when you're sowing that feedback loop, even when
people do decide to give a controversial opinion, a lot
of times it's still like trying to feel some following
out of it. It's not just like, hey man, look,
I have to say what I have to say, whether
it's popular or not. This is how it feel. It's like, no, no, no,
I'm engaging with this. Let's argue about it. Let's go
back and forth, get on a panel, let's like this

(01:28:23):
is content.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
Yet you're right, and in academia, something's published and it's out,
and then you go on to your next project, something
published and possibly you know, depending on what the situation is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
But like you say, you don't have all all the
things that you have to deal with when you deal
with like social media. Not that you don't have pressures
and things like that, but it's just used.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
I just think it used to be a little bit
more separate. Yes, and now academics are as affected by
the same pressures we all are affected by on social
media as anyone else. There's no reason to except to
believe they would be exempt, right, But you know, anyway,
I'm starting to believe that people were their psychosist as

(01:29:07):
a badger of honor. I even felt myself in that nut,
that rut or feel or feeling like I'm the only
one who can feel water was boiling, feeling like fascism
was on our heel, and seeing all the microcops and
that sort out our feed sort of feed into this
larger picture. So I've reached out to my therapist and
I got my man's adjusted. Yeah, no one thinks about that.
People really be robb dog in life. But you gotta

(01:29:28):
get off that damn train. Who the fuck is trying
to live like that? Agreed? Yeah, And like that's another thing,
like the therapy thing. We've talked about a bunch on
the show. But like the way social media sees therapy
as like one of your little girlfriends is so fucking
dangerous to me. Yes, I don't talk about it. I

(01:29:49):
don't discuss therapy shit with people on social media.

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
I I.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Really, really really think that fucked a lot of people up, because, like,
first of all, coming out of therapy to report your
therapist's findings to us is weird because it's that's really
an intimate space about you, your brain, your life, and
your therapist and I also I still remember that first
time I seen like a therapist talking about their patients

(01:30:18):
on social media, and I was like, don't that feels
like a very nebulous gray area that there's no way
the people that came up with the academic standards of
therapy and the professional therapy standards, there's no way they
anticipated this shit where y'all were gonna be on TikTok
talking about people business. There's just no way. Listen. Now,

(01:30:38):
maybe they've had to have come up with something in
the last few years to addressed some type of standards,
But at the time that the people were first popping out,
I was like, I don't know. If I see my
therapist's face and they're saying some shit that maybe somebody
can identify me through. It's not that hard. When motherfuckers
can take a picture of somebody and tell you shit
like where they work, where they live, It isn't that

(01:31:00):
hard to think a therapist could slip up and put
someone's personal information out there. But yeah, anyway, my point being,
I think when people started being like, I'm gonna tell
you about my therapist as if they're my friend, and
if my therapist tells me anything, that I don't like,
I'm gonna tell y'all that too, and then y'all are

(01:31:22):
gonna hop on my side because you know me through
social media. You don't know about therapists, so you don't
know what the fuck I said before or after. You
just know my version of events. And the thing about psychosis,
the thing about mental health stuff, it's feeding you live
sometimes like my anxiety is a liar. It is not
what is going to happen. It's not my anxiety is

(01:31:44):
this shit is gonna go wrong all the time. Don't
do that, Rod, stay in, Just stay in the house.
You know, that's my anxiety. I don't want a therapist
who is like, the anxiety is right. Just you ain't
doing nothing wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Everybody else is crazy? That's That's like that Twitter speed
and I see that all the time where somebody is
like my therapist said I need to talk to my mom,
and I said, well, I need a new therapist. I'm
not talking to you anymore. And I'm like, I see
all the people replying like hell, yeah, no contact, cut

(01:32:20):
your parents off, And I'm like, is the therapist a
crazy person? Or did the therapist you had a whole
bunch of treatments and talks and work and all this shit,
and y'all arrived at something and they challenged you to
do something that maybe it's uncomfortable, that's a roadblock for you.
Am I on here supporting your roadblock? Is that what

(01:32:43):
I'm doing? Or am I actually like affirming you? I
actually don't know, because I don't be in them sessions.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
That's your business, right, And I think over the years,
particularly with social media and like you said, the professionalism
and the academia and all these lines being blurred, a
lot of the professionalism is gone. A lot of the
client patient confidentiality is gone, you know, and shit like that,

(01:33:09):
and people that like it ain't no big thing, Bitch
it is. It is because I went to them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
But confidentiality, and like therapy is also social media is
also throwing us that, like the therapists aren't always you know,
well grounded. Like sometimes you hear people that are therapists
and you're like, oh, you shouldn't be telling me all this.
So yeah, like I said, it's it's an interesting thing
because it's such a feedback loop and maybe people are

(01:33:34):
starting to question it now, I hope, so, but yeah,
I know so many people that think a therapist's job
is to tell them that their coping mechanisms and their
things that their mental health is making them do. They
think the therapist's job is just to validate that and
be like, you are right to not want to leave

(01:33:56):
your house. You are right to do whatever. It's like
if I went and got a physical trainer and was like,
some of my goals is the game muscle, lose weight,
become more active. I want to get these I want
to get these health measurements in a certain range. And
when I go to a doctor, I want them to
test me and be like this and this is all good.
And then for her to be like, well, you know what,

(01:34:19):
ain't nothing wrong with how you are and if you
want to stay this way that, I'm like, I wouldn't
even fucking came to you. If what I was doing
was working for me, why would we be talking? Obviously,
I like, I'm not telling you to force me in
anything I don't want to do, but I'm telling you
I have goals. Can you help me accomplish those goals.
Therapy is kind of like that to me, where it's like,
I have goals. My goal is not to be a

(01:34:41):
fucking person that's having panic attacks from looking at Twitter.
That's not my goal. My goal is to never do
that again. My goal is to find ways to cope
with a world that's hostile. Sometimes. I don't want to
be a person that doesn't leave my house because I
can't deal with hostility. I want to be a person
that's able to say the world's hostile. But I want
to live my fucking life the fullest. That's it. That

(01:35:02):
shit takes work. That's who you are for me, it
takes You're not You're not the homie. I'm not. I
don't need you to necessarily make me feel good. I
don't need you to make me feel bad. But the
job is the job, and you're here to be a
support system for me, and we just kind of lost
that with the way we talk about so many things.
So I feel you on that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Yeah, and but two more things for we won't move on.
Do you said the biggest thing, you're not the homie.
I don't know what about that. People don't understand. A
therapist's whole job is you can come to them and
talk about shit and buy law. They abound, you know,
certain things they have to report don't get me wrong,
but by law they are bound to sit and listen

(01:35:43):
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
You are paying them to do their.

Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
Job, which means you can be as open as you
want to be. You can actually get to the room,
whatever it takes. And their job is not to coddle you.
Their job is not to make you feel great. Their
job is to help you adjust to the world because
the world is going to be. Whatever the world is,
you're in it and you have to adjust to the world.

(01:36:07):
And so that's their job to give you whatever coping
mechanism and tools, whatever. And the thing about it, all
therapists ain't the same. Therapists don't fit you, whatever the
case may be. Find the one that's right for you.
And I appreciate you from doing the right thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
You know you.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
The person that wrote in you know you and you
was like, hey, something's wrong, let me go get this
checked out. Because also, it is your personal responsibility for
your mental health, and online tells you the complete opposite.
It is your responsibility. I shouldn't have to deal with
the things that are happening in your life. You ought
to take some personal responsibility and fix the shit. But

(01:36:40):
social media tells you that you're all right even though
you're spiraling out of control.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
Yeah. Yeah. My favorite episode I May Destroy You is
the one where she goes to the doctor and her
friend dresses down the doctor is that the doctor's fucking
like not a doctor, and says the doctor is racist
for bringing up that people of African descent have have
high blood pressure as a risk issue and for early

(01:37:06):
strokes and stuff like that, and he and obviously the
main character she is like stressed out and all this stuff.
And the friend who's gone to the doctor with the
main character, she's like cussing the doctor out, basically be like,
you raised his piece of shit. And I said, oh
my god, this is some of the most beautiful writing
I've ever seen, because that is a thing we're experiencing

(01:37:26):
right now, is fuck your expertise if I don't like it,
as opposed to being like, okay, thank you for doing
your job. Now I have to decide what I'm gonna
do about this. Yes, it's not that they can't make
me eat less salty food hit your choice, but it's
my But you've given me the right information, which is
all your job is. And if it's a risk factor,
that's part of your job to tell me that. So anyway, great,

(01:37:50):
anyway back to this. While on the level, yes, I
do think that on my ancestors wildest dreams. On another,
I think they fought for their free will and stole
that what joy and peace they could when they could
instead of listing out every single infraction unless we're talking,
I to be because that, let's be real, Sis invented
to think piece listen, and nobody liked their ass because
of it. It's crazy sort amonglines. I cannot recommend that book.

(01:38:14):
Hoghy enough one of our most impressive fascinating Americans ever.
Like uh and when you see that she literally would
have died well, no, she literally did die in obscurity
where they tried to erase her out of history because
none of the other blacks liked her. She had pissed
off everybody just down the list NAACP try to erase

(01:38:40):
her from history and shit pissed off book of t
like she boy Mary church Terrell like everybody was like
fuck I to b Wells And she pretty much died unknown.
And she was the person that was most responsible for
tracking lynching in America at a dangerous time as a
black woman traveling places alone to document in these hostile

(01:39:02):
towns that had just killed some black people. Why those
black people got killed? Oh my goodness, Frederick Douglass like
she fell out with everybody. Great book died the way
because they got the letters from them falling out, and
you can read the back and forth. It was spicy.
I was like, I noticed this white woman is not
coming at her like this, But yeah, she said, it's
a six cycle. You're absolutely on the south the PS.

(01:39:23):
I'm so embarrassed. This is already long as fuck. But
on the Q and I note, I think that a
lot of well meaning white people got pulled down the
rabbit hole out of genuine care for children. Child sex
trafficking became a huge typeic of conversation in their circles.
And it's not a real It's not not a reality.
They took a piece of reality and distorted it. When
you think about Warren Jeffs and other devious religious leaders,
the baby farm can currently still operate in at Liberty

(01:39:45):
University and especially Epstein and friends, those are very real,
extreme abuses of power. I can see how they could
take something that was real and all of a sudden
everything seems plausible. The same way some black people do
when they reference to Castegee experiments. I completely agree with that.
And the last thing I'll say about that too, it's
if it weren't for the racism, they might could have

(01:40:06):
did something with that, because that's one that I think
everyone agree with, right, don't we all think no child
sex slavery ship not not not a lot of people
on that, not a lot of people on that, like,
not a lot of people on that on that ship
of the let's keep that going. So it's kind of

(01:40:29):
interesting that we that if it were not for racism,
they might have been able to, like just keep Trump
out of the White House. That q Andon ship should
have never been part of, Like and Trump is secretly
with us. It should have been and he's part of
the people that need to go down. But he was
saying that racism and it's racism is the biggest fucking

(01:40:52):
exploit in American history because the way that that ship
warped people into being like, I will make it work.
Like it doesn't make sense, my brain will make it
make sense because I at the end of the day,
I don't like them others.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Yep. Well, whoever them others is yep. Others.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Five Star from Road from VA, Good Day, Rod and Karen.
Love y'all so much like my cousins on my daddy's side.
I know I'll be listening for five years or more.
Thank you all for the love and laughing through audio.
Keep going. Five stars. Also, it seems as though every
time I wear this shirt, it's like, y'all screaming I
want to taste that. I feel like this could be
lip smacking good t shirt idea and let me show

(01:41:35):
show you guys this shirt. And she said it because
the shirt has listen, I do the same thing. I
don't even wear white. I don't even try to wear
white colors because it's like salts to be like, oh,
it's a party for one on this shirt because had
a party from one. She got stains on the shirt
from food falling on it. Listen, story, Okay, I know

(01:42:05):
that story. I live. That story is the worst. Oh man.
So and then everyone's like, once about every year or so,
I'd be like, you know what, I'm gonna make this
light colored shirt work. I'm going out and eating in
this and uh yeah, it works. It's gonna work out.
Let's see. Mss Smart says sword related America has a problem,

(01:42:26):
Karen ROI have y'all seen this? This man threatened to
kill thirty thousand black people. This is after he was
already partially to capitate the song with a sword. Oh,
that part wasn't even in the story. But we did
talk about him because I said he was very ambitious, right,
so he had already did that. Wow. Personally, I'm adding
sowreds to my list of tools American racist, love news,
Fox News, swords, burning crosses, German shepherds, and water hoses.

(01:42:51):
Those are fraternal twins.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
Agree.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Keep your head on the swim and attached to your body. Cheers,
Miss Smart, Thank you. She put africans used machetes her.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Come on, we love a good mashity, don't we.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
That's her signature. Last one, Celeste hi Rod and Karen
hope all was well with you. The whole glasses discussion
was so funny to me. Over the years, my family
has had similar reactions to some of the different styles
that I choose to that I choose too. But it's funny.
It only takes a few weeks and they become so
much a part of my daily routine. I didn't even
I don't even notice them anymore. The discussion about whether

(01:43:24):
or not auntie or uncle is something to be accepted
or rejected feels so odd to me. I don't know
if the discussion feels like gender wars, but for age,
if people really feel that way, it feels so off
to me. Yeah, And you know, I respect how people
feel where they come down on things. I personally am
a big believer, and I mean, as long as it's
not disrespectful, yep, I'm not going to I'll call you

(01:43:48):
and address you however you want to be addressed, because
it's just easy and it's a sign of respect. It's
one of the reasons I really, really really will never
understand that that level of transphobia where it's like, no, Yo,
Daddy named you John, I'm a dead name you, Because
I'm like, when do we do that with anything?

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
I got friends I've been calling like little TJ and
June Bug and fucking Flip and shit deuce twin. I
don't know these niggas real names, and it don't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
I don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
The respectful thing is that's what they want to be called.
And if it's not like like, it's not like they
making me call them daddy or some shit. Right, you know,
they're not making me call them anything that would make
me feel like a bitch. So yeah, I got you, Like,
why is this a problem for somebody? You don't gotta
be like, it's not. Academics don't got even enter into this.

(01:44:43):
Like pronouns in the bio don't even have to enter
into this. I never need a pronouns in the bio
to go play ball at the court and everybody got
a fucking nickname and I'm calling them whatever the fuck
they want to be called. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
It's just it's that simple.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
I play ball with so many like mask lesbian like
women that it was, you know, like it, and they
got ways they like to be referred to, and it's
not the same way you were like necessarily treat just
a woman you met on the street or a film
more filmed up woman. It was when I tell y'all

(01:45:17):
zero issues at the court, zero my whole life, and
then you get on Twitter and it's like, I refuse, Okay,
weird though, right, No, none of us were tracking this before,
at least in my experience. Maybe there's a place where
people really really really gave a fuck. But I zero
times care right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:37):
And it's also I understand everybody has different experiences and
things like this, and just like a lot of things,
I think people overblow things online sometimes when in reality
it would be a completely different situation you would adapt
or addressed, or even if you said the same thing,
you would say you would you wouldn't be screaming it

(01:45:57):
and yelling at and being confrontational with people.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
Even want aunt and auntie. If you say you don't
want to be called that, I won't call you that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Like agreed.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
Once again, I didn't even think it was a big
deal when Oprah and them said they didn't want to
go about that cool, I won't call you that, And
they had their own reasons, and their reasons are tied
up in a bunch of shit that we all have
to deal with, so we under So to me, it's
not even like some I can't even understand how you
got there. No, for Oprah and Gail, it seemed to

(01:46:25):
be on some like level of like this is what
we do to women that we have court in a
way out of sexuality and power and and all this
stuff in their minds like these now when you call
me auntie, you might as well be calling me grandmama
or something. And they are older women, aging women that
are like that may feel like nah, I still like

(01:46:45):
the power of my sexuality and and and allure and
all that and charm, and I feel like Auntie don't
get enough of that. Okay, cool, No you Auntie, Nah,
It's okay, cool.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
I just never never really found the why.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
Am I gonna'll give it you better? I just never
don't make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
I never found a point of debating it. Also, the
politicis to we get mad segment is always on point.
I was so glad, Bobble both so both glad and
sad to see VP Harris more recently on The Cobert Show. Uh,
to me, there were layers to what she was saying
and not saying. I would have loved for her to
be gover California, as I would have and still would
appreciate her leadership if she chose to run in twenty

(01:47:26):
twenty eight for president. But a large part of me
feels like this is just fit. This is just such
a setup. You can see it online. The people, especially
the class of liberal progressive Democrats or whatever, still making
it about criticizing her, Biden and the Dems, TM or
whatever except for themselves. Yeah, it's a setup for sure.
The pettiest part of me wants her to run again

(01:47:49):
if we if that's a thing, The pettiest part of
me wants to run again because I am at this
point such a angry asshole about it that I'm like,
it's like how you have a kid that don't appreciate

(01:48:09):
the hard work you put in the cooking dinner for
this motherfucker every night and you bring them that spaghetti
and after you done slaved all day the white for
the white man, then slaved over the hot stove for
the ass and then you make them the spaghetti and
they go, Mama, I don't want spaghetti. Let's order pizza.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
And like.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
You go, so you just gonna go to bed without eating.
You're gonna eat spaghetti. And they be like, I'll go
to bed without eating. You go, okay, I'll call you bluff.
Go to bed without eating. And then they go get
into bed and they be laying there hungry. And then
they come back down later and they be sitting at
the table and you be like, oh, what's wrong. You're
hungry and they're like yes, and you're like, what's what's

(01:48:56):
what's up? Then they go, I'm hungry for pizza. I'm
gonna put the play the spaghetti in front of you.
That's what I feel like doing. Now, that's probably not smart,
Like all the choices, I'm that angry that I'm like,
do it again, motherfuckers, do it again. Let's just keep
doing this. Let's see how long we're gonna take till
y'all be like, you know what, looking at a third

(01:49:19):
run of Trump, I think a black woman would be
just fine. I think she'd be just fucking fine. You know,
the most qualified candidate we ever had. I think I
think I'm feeling her now. That's what I want to do,
because I'm so fucking sick of these white folks who
keep holding up their nose like spaghetti, nigga. We worked

(01:49:40):
hard on this goddamn spaghetti. Yes we did. You ain't
never had no spaghetti like this. They don't got this
spaghetti at motherfucking olive guard. Nigga. This is better, Okay,
it's some love and put into this spaghetti, this professional
quality of spaghetti. Your mama's a chef, and you sitt
up to talking about some piece of hut nigga. Then
let's okay, let's see you go to bed hungry again.

(01:50:02):
Now that's wrong because if I don't want to go
to bed hungry again when the kid don't eat. In
this scenario, we all don't get to eat.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
We all don't eat.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
But god damn boy, I'm so pissed that I'm just
like but in tell a no again. And even twenty
thirty two, let's see what y'all feel in how far
we gotta go into this motherfucking great depression before y'all
be like, well shit, then, now that I don't have any.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Rights right now, I ain't gonna to stay.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
I'm not surprised because they never saw the light with
their I can't vote for Hillary BS, so why would
this be any different? Yeah, and too many people let
them cook with that. You know, y'all know me, man,
I don't have these conversations often because I'm a bad
person to having these conversations because I don't like to
let any of it slide, and I definitely can't be
talking to people. It's like, yeah, but Hilly was kind

(01:50:51):
of fuck you right now.

Speaker 4 (01:50:53):
I'm the bad guy, yep, So let's not even have
a conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
Right, Hilly wasn't perfect? Was she better than Trump? Because
I thought that's what the choices were. I thought me too, Well,
you know she didn't. I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
I I don't know who these people are.

Speaker 1 (01:51:09):
I don't know any of the people too stupid to
know she was better. I don't know the people, and
I'm not interested in discussing anything with those people. And
I'm not giving them any slack or any cut for that.
That's how common little loses too is because we give
people a little slack. Well, they didn't have a primary.
Did you need a primary to know she was better

(01:51:29):
than Trump? Why are we kidding ourselves?

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
But yeah, I never meant they got caught up in
disinformation and misinformation that well, I guess I'll vote for her.
But they are evil or the same. They're not pushing
back on family and friends, never acknowledging they actually did
prove about the twenty sixteen of foreign interference and social
media to influence voters, and they got caught up in it. Yeah,
and now Trump's talking about targeting Obama for investigating the

(01:51:54):
Russian interference into the election. I feel a bit like
I did in twenty twenty. I supported her run then,
but understood the pragmatic choice of an old white man body.
And I feel no proof just reading a bit between
the lines of what VP Harris and the black woman
press secretary said, they saw how certain people went after
the old white man and her. After all they did
to help people actually listen, even to their critics, I

(01:52:17):
know it would be a million times worse for her again.
Is it even worth it for a black person to
run again? I don't know, because they want to transform
the Obama person, and honestly, I don't even know that
that will work because they've turned on Obama. So I
just don't think there is a type of black person
this country will vote for. This country is truly showing

(01:52:37):
what they have always been and why it takes so
much work to make incremental process The majority, which is
why who make up approximately sixty to seventy percent of
the electorate generally don't want better if any other group
of people have a chance to get that too. And
to Kara's point that she always raises, I don't even
know when they suffer that they will change. They are
so set up to deflect accountability. I don't know if

(01:52:58):
they can change their minds behavior.

Speaker 4 (01:53:00):
The reason why I said the suffering, because that's how
we got Obama. When people fail to realize the economy
was on the verge of collapsing. That, honestly, that's when
we change. When people are frightened, when people are scared,
when people are uncertainty. That's when when their pockets start hurting,
when their money goes down, and their tax their their
their their their, which your stocks start tanking?

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
When when when, when people.

Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
Are scared, like I said, it can happen. I've seen
them get scared enough, because not at any other time
when Obama ever would have got elected. Let me tell
you that right now, I never would have got elected,
and if the economy had would have been somewhat better.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
And historically this is the truth. So I once again,
I don't think I'm a cynic. I don't think I'm
an optimist. I think I'm a realist. The only consistent
through line in American history when it comes to our
elections is Republicans or Conservatives or second Service, because I

(01:53:58):
know the party switched at one point. Conservatives and their
policies typically lead to ruin nation. And while white people
do not catch that first right, black people catch a
catch a fluid. They catch the code, right, the white people,
But it does get to them eventually, It does get
to them. This Trump shit is actually the Republican stuff

(01:54:22):
on fast forward. So I think it's actually going to
hit them faster than they think. Yes, sir, But what
will happen I think is that there will be enough
suffering that a Democrat will be elected again in America
at some point for president. I don't know if they'll
have all the resources. I don't know if they'll have
Congress and the Senate. I don't know how that will.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
Work, right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
I don't think it's I don't think it's beyond reason
to think a Democrat will win again with all the
suffering that's about to happen. The problem for me is
that people will work backwards from the result and then
go look at that white people have change. These are
the best white people of all time. They understand racism

(01:55:04):
is wrong, and they understand that Trump and white supremacy
is wrong. So they voted against that. This was us
throwing off the shackles of white supremacy and becoming a
liberal utopia. And that is the part YEAH reject because
it's not that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
It's not that it is suffering.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
Yes, it's not the truth, because that's the bullshit that
said about Obama and people like Nigga racism is still real.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
Fuck y'all talking.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
About for Obama twice then Trump twice the three times
like yeah, because you're a racist, right, Like it didn't
the one done offset the other, If the whole, If
the fact you're even bringing that up is cover for
you to go back to being racist, then you already
lost them right anyway. But I do acknowledge that there
are some elected leaders doing everything they can, largely black people,

(01:55:45):
with some others the Texas Dems, the governor of New
York and Illinois, the governor Dinner Party knew some he's problematic,
but hopefully we'll come through. We aren't perfect and don't
get to choose perfect people. But if they are doing
the right day repas of progress and push it back
on byes, then good. Yeah, of course. And also, you know,
no matter how I feel about these people, I vote
for all of these people over Trump, and it's not

(01:56:07):
and I wouldn't be conflicted. Just for the record, I
vote for Bernie Sanders over Trump so quick. It's not
like I don't have the hang ups that other people,
like white liberals get to have these weird hang ups
where they get to be like, then I guess the
country should burn where I'm like, as a black person.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
No, I don't want the country to burn.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
Yeah never so yeah, I knew Biden and Clinton worked
on the crime bill. Okay, right, and the other person
was a guy who was gonna keep the crime bill
going in twenty twenty five. Like, what are we arguing
with you?

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Anyway, I have a good book recommendation for Karen. It
would be a great on audiobook too. The Black Girls
Got to Breathing by Jasmine Marie. I really enjoyed it.
She has a website and community called Sunday Bomb. It costs,
but there are some free meditations for the sample. Take care, Celesti.
Thank you all right, Thank you, Celesti, and thank you
everybody for your feedback. That was cool, That was fun.

(01:56:59):
We'll be back out the week. We don't have any
guests currently this week, but I know coming up soon
Next Sunday, Brandon Collins from Drunk Black History and Medium
Popcorn will be the gas. And I want to say
a couple of tuesdays from now Kevin Frederick's aka Kevin
on stage will be the gas which imagine the chat

(01:57:20):
room will before.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
Get ready to pay that fee.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that and uh yeah,
well and I know a couple other people I got
to reach out to you to get on the show too.
But yeah, we'll be back with more of this throughout
the week. Until next time, I love you.

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