3143: Learn, Laugh, Love

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me too, love that. I love their banter, and there
are a couple goals. Please get that relationship advice show
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have to be to enjoy hours of amazing, world class content.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Thank you, thank you, sweetie.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I'm still very hesitant to do relationship advice, mostly just
because I recognize how different Karen and our relationship is
to most people, and I don't know that my advice
would really apply to a lot of people. And I
think once you get into the advice game, it's kind
of like weird slippery slopes because people write you about stuff,

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but then it's like, are you even getting.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
The full picture? Yes, pieces of it is missing, you know,
they're only telling you their version.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
And then like ultimately, I mean it's something we obviously
could think about doing or whatever, but like ultimately with
a lot of this stuff, it's like, uh, the it's
really just more about the person telling you the decisions
they're comfortable with in their life. Because I'm not an

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expert on dating or dating people, that aren't.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Caring, so like that aren't rod And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Like just what it's different stuff people put up with
that is very normalized and I feel like a weirdo sometimes.
I was watching the video of Shaikhari Uh physically assaulting
her boyfriend in the airport. Yeah, and then the police
came and she said that she told like three different

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stories in like a couple of minutes. It was I
don't know what's true. I don't know what's not. I'm
not like, that's not my point. But in there she's
talking about like, well he uh, first of all, he
saw me, and they're like, no, we have tape, and well,
why'd you call the police on You didn't need to
do that. He's like, I didn't call the police, and
they're like, no, I had to call the police. You

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were seen in public physically assulting is man. And you
can see on the tape he wasn't swinging in her back.
He does everything to dsklate, tries to walk away. She
just kept pushing them, hitting them and then he she
then goes, well, I can show you my phone where
he hit me or something like that, and he you know,

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and at no point was he like, you know, like
acting violatle or whatever. And I'm not saying she's lying.
I'm just saying, like the fact that it's normalized enough
that they put hands on each other. Like the best
case scenario, Okay, best case scenario, I guess, quote unquote
is she's telling the truth and they both be putting
hands on each other.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
The worst case scenario is that she's abusive and then
she lied to the police to try to get this
dude fucked up at the or whatever. For whatever reason,
she lied to the police and she's the abuser. There's
no good scenario in there. But I saw people like
commenting on it back and forth and stuff, and just
kept thinking, how it's very normalized for people to have
this fights and this physicality sometimes or escalation, and sometimes

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like people think that's very normal, And so when it
comes to like relationship if ice stuff, I think we
would just sound out of touch because like we don't
and I'm not just talking about physical violence, but we
don't raise our voice in each other, we don't put
hands on each other obviously, we don't cuss each other out,
we don't disrespect each other out, we don't get angry,

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and then it's like I get to call caring a
bitch because I'm mad at her, which is something that
people do all the time. Is very common. It's not
even like a deal breaker. It's like, oh, I'm sorry
I was upset earlier, and then you're supposed to like
understand and forgive them. And so anyway, all that stuff
to say, I don't know that I'm in touch enough
with how most people think relationships should work to be

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necessarily putting my foot into the waters.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, and also what I realized, particularly as I got
I getting older. When you talk to older people, a
lot of them dealt with it when they were younger,
and you know, kind of as they got older. For
some people they grut of it. Some people didn't. But
for a lot of people they think that those things
are normal for various different reasons. And you know, like

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I said, we would definitely sign out of touch because
I'm like, I love you, you love me. You are my
safe space, like my relationships should be a safe space
for me personally, And so people deal and put up
with various different things because people's personalities and all types

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of things. So, yeah, when I talk to people, sometimes
I sound like I'm we sound like we're crazy. Like
anytime people are introduced for us for the first time
and they realize my husband and wife, they realize we
do podcasts. The very first thing that comes up to
that myel I can't do one with my husband or
my wife, or my spouse or my other person, you know.
And there's nothing wrong with that, but you know, that's
a common thing, you know, And a lot of people

(09:01):
are shocked and surprised when we tell people we don't fuss,
we don't scream, we don't yell. I am another adult.
My ears work perfectly fine. I can hear you, and
you can hear me, you know, type of thing I
don't have to. I don't have to raise my voice
to prove my point to you, you know. And if
I have to, I'm I personally am not gonna be

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with you. If I ever get to the point where
I feel like I need to be I need to
be physically violence, we will no longer be together. But
that's just me, because you know, I'm at a point
now in my life where I do have standards. I'd
rather be alone and by myself than to be in
a miserable fucking relationship with somebody that abuses me and

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or I abuse them. I rather be alone.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, Like I said, I just you know, and I
think it just comes off harsh and judgmental to people
that's going through shit. The It's just my standards, it's
just my preference, and honestly, it shouldn't really govern anything.
Ain't by you. I think people look at other people
and go, I'll just copy that blueprint. But a lot
of times it's bigger than just you know, copy and paste.

(10:08):
It's temperament. It's a bunch of other stuff that you
have to deal with, And honestly, to be fair, I
truly don't know what's gonna work for anybody. There's so
many relationships I see where I'm like, oh okay, Like
if they found a way to be happy with that,
then they find a way to be happy with that.
So all you're really gonna learn is my hang ups
and piccadillos. And I don't feel like telling the world

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that shit, you know, because people go to write in
with like how you deal with a threesome? You know,
so you know, how do you, uh, what do you
do when when she been cheating on you with your
brother's like, I don't know these answers, and I don't
even really want to think about those, right all right,
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Speaker 3 (12:02):
That was fun.

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I had so much time. I love I mean so
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that episode. That wanted to hear more of the content. Yeah,
if you want to hear us get relationship advice. We
gave some of the Dear Prudy podcast.

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That was fun, that was really fun.

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Yeah, you know, we got to do the fun and
serious and all that stuff. So I started listening to
the black Out Tests. This podcast is so good. Their
political commentary is thoughtful, nuance and accessible to our audiences.
But the main reason I love this podcast because Roder
Carron are incredibly good at comedy.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Thank you, yes, thank you. And it took me a
while and I am completely embracing it. No matter what
my comedian mind says, I am funny. In fact, I
am very funny, hilarious. But sometimes I get in my
mind because I compare myself to to like professional comedians.

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I was like, well, I don't stand on stage and
tell jokes. But it's not that. It's it's just the
fact that if you're funny, you're funny, regardless of if
you're on stage or not.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
They are both just as good, if not better than
professional stand up comments. They are quick with it, they
have great comedic timing. They play off each other's band
to very well. That humor keeps the show flowing. I
come for the thoughtful political commentary and I stay for
the jokes. That's slay. Guess the race is my favorite segment,
followed by politics till we get mad. I'm so greatful
I found this show and will absolutely continue being a

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dedicated listener. Thanks for making this content. Thank you. Damn
see just why I'll be talking about the five star
reviews and I'll be like, man, please go ahead, because
what a great way to start a podcast. Now we're
about to get into all the comments. It's like you've
forgot to crowns the team. You didn't put a comment
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Like we were about to get into all that, but
this is like such a fun way to start to flow.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yes you know, so thank you baby for talking about
the guests, the race and things like that, because I
think people had wrote in about Roger like modify, I
ain't getting things like that, and Roger was like, nope,
I'm just gonna read with the words is on here.
Whatever happens happened. So you know, you one person who
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that wrote in that enjoys the Foreman as as it is,
no notes, and it's actually fun because like Rogers saying,
you can read it ass is and it's a twist
and I be just as wrong wrong as to come
because I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Episode thirty one thirty eight, the Conspiracy Slippery Slot was
a feedback episode classic R and B Lover beats everyone
to the punch What Hi, Ron and Caren. Here's my
addition to the politics until You Get Mad segment. I
went to find out, well, it's politics till we get mad.
I don't know if y'all, y'all might be mad from
the start, y'all might have a better tolerance this till

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we get fed up. I went to find out where
the next COVID booster will be available. I did do
this around the time each year. Because I'm mid fifties
age teacher with a presisting condition, I imagine my surprise
when my pharmacists confirmed that a booster is scheduled to come.
Then that okay? When when that a booster is scheduled
to come?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Then don't know when because it's a release date has
yet to be provided. I was then informed the dude
to the changes made by this administration of racist classes nightmares,
people under sixty five will no longer qualify to receive
the COVID booster. I then asked about pre existing conditions. Naturally,
these overriding qualifiers have yet to be revealed. I then

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questioned how much the booster would cost if I chose
to get out of pocket, and again was a form
that they have asked, but the information has not been
released to doctors and pharmacists. I guess the decision has
been made that if we are not young and strong
enough to be enslaved, we can just be killed off.
That's gonna be extremely interesting because I just went to
the doctor like yesterday, and my boosters are like, I'm

(15:53):
all caught up. I think you know we took we
got one like a few months back or whatever earlier
this year for sure, and she was and they logged that,
so she was like, oh, you already got your booster
and she was like, I wouldn't get another one until
like October when they released the update or whatever.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, blah, you like do right for the start of
the hornet season.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
And she was saying, how like recently she's gotten a
few people that got COVID, but she hadn't had many
at all this summer. And she was like, and normally
you get a boot a surge in the summer, and
they're not really seeing a huge surge, at least anecdotally
in her practice, right. But she was like, you know,
older people are have to be concerned obviously, people that

(16:35):
have you know, immune issues and stuff immune systems. But
she was like, you know, the antibodies from being vaccinated,
the antibodies from catching it is actually doing a good
job in society of fighting this disease and like keeping
COVID from like you know what it was. I mean,
I think even if you're disagreeing about the how much

(16:56):
serious people should be taking it, you have to unless
you're just living in a completely different world, you have
to admit that it's not the problem. It was when
we literally could not go outside and shit are and
the hospitals were full of people that were like sick
and dying, and people were burning loved ones every day
all the time and all that stuff, and famous people
were dying all the time. So it's not that doesn't

(17:18):
mean it's over. We always knew we'd have to live
with COVID yep. But what I guess, what I'm trying
to say is what annoys me, what bothers me, is
that someone like RFK Jr. Who can say, let's get
rid of the vaccines, let's let's stop funding them, let's
the companies are the bad guys, or whatever, the people

(17:40):
just need to walk and drink water or whatever fuck
he believes. You know, you're walking on the back of
the people that did the hard work during the pandemic
to make sure that we all got these antibodies in
us from these mRNA vaccines. So like, this is what
bothers me about the anti vaxx type people, even those
hippie versions of them, liberal versions. It doesn't matter whether

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the Republican version or the liberal version. So many of
them are just a microcosm of our society where they're
in the safety of the work that others did and
they're using that safety to be like, I don't think
we need this at all. It's the same reason they

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cut down the Voting Rights Act, where they're just like,
I mean, it looks like black people can vote in
the South, so why are we even enforcing these laws?
And then the second they take them out, all of
a sudden, here comes some new laws to make black
people make it harder for us to vote, right, same
thing with the vaccines, Like the people we had eradicated
essentially many of these diseases down to like numbers, where

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like it was not a problem for our society, and
now anti vaccine is causing the shit to come back,
and they'll take no responsibility for it. And if anything,
they keep stripping more and more away and under this administration,
it might not be the next thing, might not be
a COVID, it might not be a a virus. But

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but if there's nothing about this administration that feels like
they be prepared for any crisis that we have.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
But they fed out those people right exactly, So yeah,
they fight aull those people, and the thing that's the
most frustrating thing to mean, this is why I say
white supremacy and uh that it has a hold on people.
It's irrational, it's illogical, and it doesn't even care about itself.
You don't even care about your kids because a lot

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of people that make these decisions. You've been vaccinated from
some of these things, mumps and musing, all this shit,
like like like of your age, you've been vaccinated, You've
got your shingle shots, whatever the fuck you are vaccinated.
It is your children that are going to be getting polio,
mumps and measles and shit that we have literally eradicated.
It's gonna be rummaging through the school, not you adult

(19:55):
who has fully been vaccinated. And that's the thing. You
are protected your children or not. And so this is
why I say, you don't even care about your own children.
All you care is about the whiteness and that and
that superseds every rational.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
But it's not just white people, man, it's just like
a current of anti vaccine, anti expertise, anti science shit
all over the fucking place. It's like it's beyond just
just whiteness, like it's it's something worse, Like I don't
even know what the how you anyway, it's very frustrated,

(20:32):
and yeah, I feel you. I feel you because like
the other thing is, it's the absence of a plan.
It's not like RFK JR. Does these things and then
comes out with like, here's the new, here's here's what
the new. The CDC is now saying will be the
new vaccine. But it's like the Farmers is like, we
don't know. We're hoping we get an update, right, we
might get to October, and people just are like, we
still don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Right, we don't know what the calls, we don't know nothing.
We don't even know if we're gonna get them in.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
And these motherfuckers this turn to politics. Give you mad,
but I'll move on. But I'll just say this, this
is the type of administration that I think they're going
to wait for the worst type of things to happen
and then they will go back and be like, oh, yeah,
we're gonna start up some vaccines for this or whatever.

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Like they're not. They don't prevent problems. They prefer to
strip all the prevention out of the system because they're like,
why would we even ever pay for that? And then
once the shit happens. Then they try to pop up
with some half assed answers afterwards. It's just like the
flood in Texas.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
And shit like damage has already been done.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, people have died, and then they go back they
don't try to help. But a lot of this is
like the American people's fault, including liberal and progressive people
that we're sitting up there going, why do we even
trust the CDC? It's all bullshit. Okay, this is what
happens as you just undermine expertise and experience, pertease. Everyone's
been doing it. Everyone thinks they know so much fucking

(22:03):
better than the people that dedicated their lives to this shit, right,
people who on their resume have literally saved millions of lives,
and yet we still go, man, fuck doctor Fauchi or whatever.
Just CDC some bullshit. And a lot of that is
because you allowed Donald Trump and them to make you
question them, because you know that Donald Trump can have

(22:24):
undue influence and he is untrustworthy. So then you go, well,
that makes everybody untrustworthy, and now here we are even
he said, speaking of conspiracy theories, what happened to q ornin?
Why does it an't even mention anymore. Was it just
to get dumping office the first time? Because I haven't
heard a thing from them in years. I remember a
Documentarybody being run by some man and AG and his son.
Did they die? Ia says, yes, Q killed them. You

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heard her here first.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah. I watched that doc too, and uh yeah, man
I it is so crazy how I just went away
that shit used to be and for reware, but also
like when you let the people who benefit it from
those conspiracies be in charge, and is everything a conspiracy
and nothing's of conspiracy? Now? Obviously the experience in Germany

(23:08):
with too much data is Nazi Germany was they knew
exactly who the Jewish people were. Two Jewish people had
one they knew exactly who the Jewish people were. Two
Jewish people had to wear a yellow star on their clothing.
Three they were easily to identify, deported in the concentration
camps and killed. That's probably the reason for being extremely
suspicious about that. That makes sense. And you know what
would make me be a complete asshole is if me

(23:31):
having no experience living in Nazi Germany was like, you
need to just fill out the senses I don't know
what the fuck you talking about, right, That's what I'm saying.
I don't. I am saying I don't recognize I recognize
what I don't know about your country, and I'm taking
your word for it, because why the fuck would I not.
It's no, this is not a theoretical debate to me

(23:52):
that I feel like I need to win with a
person in Germany that has a lived experience that is
informed by the traumas of their past. Right, I'm telling
you about the traumas of the American past, which I
definitely know more about than you. I've lived it. And
so when I'm telling you, like, here's why black people
who are not fucking stupid are filling out the census, right,

(24:12):
and what it has been used to help and aid,
and how we've actually gotten a lot of progress in
our lifetimes because of data, I'm not gonna defer to
I hear what you're saying, but I'm not gonna defer
and be like, yeah, man, we shouldn't have been feeling
that shit out, Like No, the goal is to not
have evil people in charge. And I'm sure that if

(24:34):
I google some shit that I get some like Germany.
He has the best census in the world because Germany
always has the best. Everything in the world is Germany
is the most accurate of all the censuses, and I'd
be like, yeah, that makes sense, and I don't know,
like so, yeah, I don't know what happens in Germany
with too much data because I don't live there. But
I know in America the census thing is very serious

(24:57):
because it's been used to allocate resources.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Right, so we'll see, right, And the lack of data
is the problem. And the thing is when you tell
people things based off of what you know, they'll go
fuck it, like like we were forced to get the
statistics in order to prove the inequity, like you know,
other than that they we would not be where we
are now. Yep, because people don't take your word for it.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, uh, Apia says the experience in Germany and oh yeah,
run In rod Fiel says, I just want my good
brother Dre to know that I'm a big fan of
his messages and look forward to any time he calls
a Barabi. Koran got to find a special to blackout
tills Worthy Award for his brother. Conspiracy theories are another
reason why I believe the society is cook. I'm just
glad I got this podcast because oh my, oh my,

(25:43):
I'm gonna go play Parabi Koran music because Rob won't
play my music. All right, enjoy yourself. By the way,
one of my favorite things I enjoy outside of podcast,
movie shows, anime, etcetera, is watching Wired Tech Support on YouTube,
where different professionals tackle questions for mostly people on Twitter
about subjects and that fit rangers from questions you and
I might have. The folks trying to sneak in conspiracies

(26:04):
and their questions. I bring this up to say one
of my favorite episodes just dropped The Biomedical Scientists tackling
how Much Damage to Conspiracies led by RFK Junior, Joe
Rogan and more. While based on BS you can see
how they twisted into the truth. She didn't shy away
from naming them. By the way, I was a black
marine biologist that it was a black marine biologist that
got me into a series when he was talking about sharks.

(26:26):
Where here's the Biological Scientists video dismantling lots of health
conspiracies for the audience. I wasn't expecting it to be
played during the show. For Parabo Karana's understanding supporter. Have
I told you this is the best podcasts in the world.
Thank you, Ramsey says back to the question about the
whites and how they addressed their art or uncle growing
up on military basis overseas and in US, I have

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never heard them refer to anyone as auntie or uncle.
They seem to have nicknames or children used their first
name instead of miss Bunny or mister Chuck. Classic R
and B Lover says, I just finished listening to episode
thy one thirty seven Little Boosy Columns where you discussed
the patroon of rsss link they provide for your subscribers.
I used the Patreon rssess link for my subscriptions to

(27:08):
project fandom and t with Queen and Jay. The links
work perfectly. I listened through the Apple podcast app, and
once you add the link, the instructions provided are spot
on all on the other podcasts and announcements appearing the
feed for the show. It is seamless process, so your
Patreon subscribers have no problem accessing your content that way.
Awesome today, thank you. Because I don't necessarily get to

(27:30):
see it from that angle, I can try by there's
like little things you can do to put it in
your own feed as the podcast creator, but getting y'all's reviews,
and I'm assuming it's working because i mean, we got
people signing up, but we don't have anyone saying like, hey,
this thing was missing or this doesn't work. So I'm
assuming it's been easy for people over there, and we
appreciate it. We do. Sean says, thank you for your

(27:53):
masterclass on epistemology the study of knowledge lesson one using
the allegory of FBA addressed the need to acknowledge and
understand live experience in order to interact with people while
also seeking to share truth. Listen to use an allegory
adulte you address the need to acknowledge expertise. Not everyone's
opinion is equal, and experience it's not everything. A civil

(28:15):
servant who trained for and worked in a government agency
for two years is always going to have a more
valuable opinion than a stuge hire based on loyalty. If
I want an expert opinion on the Constitution, I will
ask Justice Kantaji Brown Jackson if I need expertise on
destroying constitutional rights while talking out of one's ass to
defend them certain decisions. I'll talk to John Roberts lesson
three using the allegory of Twitter, demis you showed that

(28:38):
the importance of academy is not in his language, which
has been abducted along with psychology speak by Twitter. But
then it's focus on data and rigorous rutiny of analysis.
I think that this actually goes back further, most notably
Cornell West will often speak outside of his expertise without support,
but it has been accelerated, no doubt. Yeah, I guess

(28:58):
that's true. I guess true when you think about like
this kind of started probably with TV, and maybe you
could argue radio, but I don't know enough about radio
to speak on like how that happened. But TV definitely
was like a.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Start them.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, TV because yeah, the allure of fame and mm hm.
But also it's the ability for people to be good
at TV is different than the ability to be an
expert in the field, meaning that there are many people
who are very smart and knowledgeable, but they are not
good at TV right And because they're not good at

(29:38):
all the physical presentation of TV, they could subsequently get
a TV show. But a person that's a Charlatan like
doctor Phil will always work circles around them and pass
them in ratings and stuff by leaps and bounds because
he's good at TV, even if you're good at being

(29:58):
a doctor. Right, And that's something that definitely, you know,
started a long time ago. And yeah, you had people
like Cornell West that is, you know, in Matrix movies
and talking and putting out rap albums and shit. Because
it's like at that point, it's not about his expertise,
it's about Cornell West.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Finally, you gave us a case study, breakdown and share knowledge.
Based on the doctor's consultation, the doctor should have learned
lesson one and framed their bedside man or better. The
patient needs to focus on lesson to their friends. Medical
opinion means Jack and the friend needs to learn lesson three.
Data and rig are more important than feelings when dealers
with knowledge. Yeah, that shout out there. I made a story,
you man. That's my favorite episode. And I saw she's

(30:40):
got a new show coming out soon too for her.
Thank you for your lecture. I look forward to your
future master class on ontology. John Baby. John says, greetings
from Brian College Station, Texas Home with Julaane Maxwell and
Texas A and M University. I'm late to the Auntie
NK discussion, but was an early adopter title. I accepted

(31:01):
it after taking a job as a professor in twenty
twelve and realizing at the age of forty two that
I was old enough to be the father of my
undergraduate students and uncle of the most of my masters
and doctoral students. So now I'm fifty five with a
mostly gray beard. That got me fed up recently. If
someone offered me a senior discound at a thrift store,
should have took that discause I would. After I pulled

(31:22):
myself together, I said, yes, I know it's sound.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Please give me waiting to get my senior discount.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, y'all are Matt. I'll turn into that granty from
tweety bird. Yes, I will take the discount.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Try to pay full price.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Oh, this gallant is killing me today. Can you carry
it out? Tell me my call? It's long story. Short
Ouf decided it's time for me to add some cool
old black dude to my uncle vib. I already have
a bunch of botares. And then on YouTube we got
seven comments. Damien says, damn good show. Guys as always

(31:58):
dark Nander says, a curriculum Vitie and the resume are
both documents used to showcase professional experience, but they different length,
scope and purpose. Okay, DJ's something else says or DJ
is something Else says. We got Little Boosy Collins and
Toby maguire showed me the money in one week. God

(32:20):
damn man, no one could tell me there's a better
podcast out here. Y'all legitimately the Brona Podcasts and keep
this thing going forever. Thank you, doc and Ander says,
another bang of feedback show. Thanks. The girl on the
other side of the Road says, I want to give
y'all a five star review, but I'm kind of an
Android user who wants nothing to do with Apple. It

(32:40):
also always shocks me that there are ads on here,
Like I remember when I started watching it. I found
music between segments very odd. Then I had to remember
that I have YouTube Premium and that the poors have
to wait between every segment. I feel sorry for them.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Well, you can. You don't have to have an Apple
device to actually sign up. You can actually go to
Apple dot Concrete in account. You can leave us five
stars from there. Yes, you can, so you don't even
have to really a quote unquote associate with Apple.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Five stars says Ramsey pH done. The music producers sends
you out some dope music. They talented us as fuck,
says Kim Dot. They are, I agree.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Shout out to our music people.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
The poll was do you return your grocery card to
the correct designated spaces after shopping? Ninety six percent of
our audience said yes. Four percent did not say yes.
But wow, I am very impressed. That is an amazing number.
I think you tell a lot about people if they
return their shopping card or not. You know, I think

(33:42):
that's It's one of those those like test in life.
I actually saw a clip speaking of Apia in Germany.
I actually saw a clip from a TV show, a
German TV show where they were returning shopping cards. I
just realized, I think they guys won't be able to
hear the sound ship All right, give me a second,

(34:04):
because you guys know how this works. I hate this
whole Chrome won't play the sound bullshit. Put it in
firefox and show you guys that way.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
But yeah, they would they could hear something, Oh y'all
could hear it?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Oh all right, Well, if y'all can hear it, then
I'll play. Yeah, this is some type of show where
these German women have shopping cards and then like twenty
thirty feet away or whatever, they have to push the
shopping cart where they have to stay behind the line

(34:41):
push the shopping cart into the shopping cart space. Okay,
so I'm riveted. Of course you can see Carmen Carmen. Yeah,
Carmen is miss, two makes, miss and a mate. So
she got three makes and they got three three pushes left.

(35:03):
Claudia is two misses, two makes and one miss, so
she is she down three to two right now. Claudia
to Karmen.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
They're serious about this ship.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Oh she talk of that ship. I don't know what
she said. She talk of that ship. Take that bitch right,
that's how you put a fucking card in their bitch.
Right your turn? Yeah, we income swaggen parking. Yeah, we're
doing them. So Claudia done tied it up. It's three three.

(35:36):
Carmen got one more turn than Claudia, so it's krmen
turned your next. She was like, don't get nervous, bitch,
don't get try not to hit the side. Complete concentration,

(35:58):
I love her for him. Look two hands getting cross
the line. All let's go, Carmen. I ain't for I
don't know if that's he.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
That must be a judge or something.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
He looked. He looked nervous. Put you put money on
the ship that got replaced?

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Is to replace?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Oh damn tire game, I think, come on, calm, let's go, baby,
let's go, Miss Malmos. We don't train for this. Our
whole life at the Aldie, right, Okay, I know about

(36:45):
the court.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I ain't following my kids, not an hour for nothing.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
We know about that quarter sist shoots. Look at the form.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
God looked, Who's number one?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
That bitch she put that stuff?

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Carry on that ass.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
She should have turned around to look the other.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Way, should have flipped her hair.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Who's the best? I am? You are? No, I forget
what that do.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I'm the car princess.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
All right, y'all, let's play play some music and then
we'll come right back. They don't put that shit on

(38:06):
the Olympics. Man, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
I don't know. If I'm watching I would be in
for that one.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, I don't know. If I'm watching that, I might
start training. I'll be returning in my cards my whole life.
I like and I like shooting for far away.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Right, what do they win the opus? Oh no gift
card to all this, Let's go right.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Apias is the first person you get all your quarters back.
Apia is the first person to respond. On the thirty
one thirty nine episode Uh thirty one thirty nine twenty
one Jack salute, Appia says, I don't see change in
the districts. The other way working because when you know
the people of color tend to vote Democrat, you can
target them. When it comes to white people, they vote

(38:47):
skin go either way. And there are seventy percent of population,
so in the mostly white area, you don't really know
how intervention would change the status quo. Ry has notifications
on this news app. If I had them all my
anxiety would be sky high. Yeah, that's just because you're
not built like this. Okay, some of y'all got y'all
ain't got the iron trap of a brain like your
boy got, with the boundaries done, courting everything all coordinated.

(39:11):
I got this.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
I don't need the baby. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
It's nothing to me. Okay, I get them alerts. Let
me look at what's what's alerting here?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Around times Roger be telling me shipping the shop, I'll
be like, oh they died, He'd be like, what hell
you being?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I got attention my title artist? Well Tyler to created
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You can get tickets now, see you Caring win the known.
She don't got no learn.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Get them tickets, I bitch, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
New Dad twenty nine. He was told he had tonsa
lightis he was dead The next day, shout out to people.
They let me know that. Hollywood reporter said, how will
the American jeans controversy effect Sidney swing his career? New
brand deals? I don't know, KKK Rose coming back? Oh no,
gotta sell jeans style ye old Navy finish watching pick

(40:26):
up where your left off, See what happens next on
and or nigga. I finished that already. How what Okay,
Disney plus y'all gotta get y'all shit. Yeah, stop worrying
about buying Hulu and update your stuff. Right. The world's
best receiver isn't in the NFL. She's a flag football
phenomena Apple News. So yeah, I can handle it. I
guess you just some people just not built the same,

(40:46):
you know what I'm saying, Opia, and uh, you know,
maybe step your therapy game up and you'll be all right.
You handle a little notification.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
That's definitely stay on top of that demon slid because
I'm being that bitch. First thing, smoking.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Run around Forel says, I was sweating at the beginning's episode.
I just brought my ticket on the way to see Weapons,
thanks thanks to Chris Lambeth and Tim Hall talking me
into seeing it, as I'd never seen the trailer. I
agree on the movie. Take fun fact about the redistrict
thing blue in the NYS New York state. It was
already done prior to twenty twenty four elections in a
smart way, I may add, in the highest course in

(41:20):
the States said it was too unfair in favor of
Democrats despite already being in an election window, a redoo
took place that ended up with the current map that
gave some games to the GOP. I bring this up
to say why you're not wrong about white voters one
hundred percent on that. If there's one thing that I
know about the GOP is that they utilize the rules
in blue states to enact their destruction, and the goddamn
voters let them get away with it. So New York, Illinois, Washington, California, etc.

(41:43):
Can retaliate and draw their maps to a blue advantage.
The state GOP already waiting at the court door to
foul and whiteness gonna white eat. This is why I
feel we are cooked. Shout out to Mark Mayor and
the Hunter Biden always word yeah, man, Like I said,
I don't know enough to know for sure it won't work.
Like I'm not saying that, I'm saying the people that

(42:04):
are making these threats that we're gonna rig our states
so that it's all blue. Ay do it? B I
hope you're right. I just hope it's just you have
to be right on this because if it don't work,
it's really like gives the right carte blanche to do
this with no true opposition, Like even the Supreme Court

(42:26):
will be like, yeah, well, I mean California did it
and it didn't work, but they did it and gained
a couple of seats when they thought they were going
to turn the whole state blue. But with white voters
and white people being the majority of voters and voter
suppression in these southern states, I bet it's easier to

(42:47):
turn the state almost completely red than it is blue.
That would be my guess.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
But good luck either way.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, good luck to you all. And it's not that simple,
because if if it was that simple, y'all would have
been did this shit. It's trust, it's checks and balances,
it's something, it's some rule of something y'all gotta follow.
Put something in like. It ain't like you can come
in and swing yo Dick and be like we go
do this tomorrow. You can't. That's why you're just saying it.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
As Rafael said, New York are and this happens all
the time. By the way, it's not a I'm not anomaly.
States try this, and then the courts are supposed to
be like, no, go back, get the maps, so that
this representative of other people in the state. What happens
is Republicans stuff the courts with such bias that now

(43:31):
in certain states it's like, yeah, you can do it.
If it's going to strip people that are democrats of
their power, you can do it, and we'll just keep
pushing it to the Supreme Court, where we think ultimately
the outside with us yep ray from the A to
O FO says Hey, Rod and Karen. I remember back
during Obama's presidency hearing a former Bureau of Labor and
Statistics employee describe the process of creating the jobs report

(43:53):
every month. It's a very controlled process, and they do
a lot to limit people on the outside from knowing
what's going on or having any input. Of course, I
expect that'll change a lot now that Trump is installed
a puppet to run that department. I just wanted to
add because the news media doesn't always do a good
job of giving the context. It's a very normal for
the previous month's data to be corrected when a new
report comes out. It happens all the time. Well I

(44:14):
guess happened, because who knows how this is going to
work going forward. Just wanted to add that because I
don't know if the person he hi he fired was
trying to play Kate Trump or not. I know you
hate working off assumptionious Pece shaw Ray. As I said
during the episode, I've made it very clear I was
completely spitballing. I had no factual basis to back up

(44:36):
what I was saying, and I want that because and
I want that to be heard and understood, Like I
was not saying this is definitely what happened, like I'm
I was saying at the time, because I remember making
like a couple of disclaimers like hey, I don't know
that this is what happened. I hope it's not. And
all I'm saying is I'm sure these things do get corrected.

(44:58):
I'm not saying I didn't even say this is unprecedented
to be corrected. What I'm what I'm more looking at
is the idea of the corrections being less flattering for
Trump in multiple months and a guy who we saw
fire people, yes see, for doing their jobs. I'm not

(45:19):
saying he has to come into your office and tell
you inflate the numbers. I'm just wondering if there's a
pressure on you as a person to know, like, well, shit,
if I just you know, if I if I report,
let's just give the most optimistic version of this report,
and then a couple months later we could take it
down once again. I completely speculate. This is not to

(45:42):
even say any like, I get it. I'm not trying
to start a conspiracy. I'm saying you, when you have
this type of mauthfeass at the top, I don't know
what kind of person can't wonder like, did the like
is there an undue pressure on people who typically used
to have unbiased, nonpartisan jobs to be partisan, And then

(46:04):
once he does install his own people and they do
stuff like stop reporting job numbers, or only report favorable
job numbers, or just make the numbers up. I think
we'll look back at this moment and be like, I
wonder what kind of pressure that other person was on there,
because clearly this is what the administration wants, and they're

(46:24):
not quiet about just that they will rig the book.
So that's what I mean. But I really do appreciate
the background information and the perspective because I don't know
all that stuff, and I thank you.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yeah, And I know for me, I hear I've heard
people talk about this in the past, and I've heard
people say, well, it's a correction to last month job
numbers to hire a lower blah blah blah, and then
they'll adjust and we'll just move forward. So I knew
that the corrections, like publicly announcing corrections was not abnormal

(46:56):
or different, but with this administration is like, he only wants,
like said, favorable numbers. So if the truth is, well,
we thought this, but by maybe I cut off date
with something or whatever the case may be, the numbers
are lower, He's pissed because the numbers are lower then
quote unquote what he thought they should be, and so

(47:17):
he wants you to basically put false numbers out there,
seeing the numbers are great every month, but that's not
true statement, but people losing their jobs. So people going
to figure out it's a disconnection between what you're saying
and the reality that they're living.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
I think also firing the person to me is why
I go to a place of like where they under
pressure to forge numbers because I think when we go, well,
it's normal that you adjust the numbers, like yeah, but
it's not normally you get fired for adjusting the numbers.
So I'm not pointing out the abnormality of adjustments. I'm

(47:51):
pointing out the abnormality of the pressure that you must
be under compared to other administrations.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Shoe Boody says, Jimmy Folling has been persona nine grid
up for me since he first normalized their orange dictator
back in the twenty sixteen race. He expressed regret previously,
but now let's on people like Gutfield. Even if he's
not the book or the show. How does it get
to this level? He just rolls with it? Is he
so afraid of being canceled both literally and figuratively by
his employers or audiences? I think about how rich he

(48:20):
has to be by now, when is enough enough? If
I have millions of dollars and was threatened with being
fired or the audacity to have more afforded Tom, I'm
gladly walk away from all of them. My takeley attact.
Fuck Jimmy Fallon's not even that funny. I don't even
think it's pressure from like they. My guess. I don't
know him, but my guess is number one, he has

(48:41):
final say on his guest. He does like he's Jimmy Fallon.
He's been doing the job for a long time.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
That's nothing. He could have said.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
No, if he doesn't want someone on the show, they
won't be on the show. That's what I'm imagining. But also,
I don't think Jimmy Fallon is necessarily the guy that
probably vetos a lot of people being on his show.
Jimmy Fallon's entire vibe is I'm a happy puppy and
I'm just here to have fun and go along to
get along. The out of character moment was not having

(49:07):
gut filed on this show. The out of character moment
was showing up for Stephen Colbert as if he was
siding against the big companies in the government.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
When he really wasn't.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
But that's not what he does. He's not a brave man.
He's not an outspoken man. And so Jimmy Fallon, you know,
having gut feled on is probably my guess. This is
complete speculation and projection. It's probably his conscience for being like,
oh god, it looks like I picked a side when

(49:36):
I was with Colbert. It looks like I'm saying conservatives
are bad and Donald Trump is bad and Paramount CBS
is bad. Oh god, Well, how do I make it
seem like? No, I'm just here. I'm just Jimmy Fallon.
I had fun with anybody. Let's get gut feled on
the show. Let's rub in his hair, and then we'll
just all go. See Jimmy Fallon he likes everybody.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah, I see, I agree. Just don't go on this
man show then, like like you know Colbert, yes, yeah,
just just be the oddball at this out the loop.
This this just being like I'm going to keep away.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
He says, I've been side eye on Jimmy Fallaci is
he played in Dump's hair the first time that Terry ran.
He's the weakest link of links. And I will celebrate
when the show is eventually canceled. It if trick Daddy
has nothing else, it's plenty of audacity. Looks aside. Whenever
a man is a says older women's standards are too high.
They really mean they want someone who allowed them to
treat them any kind of way, right. They want someone

(50:31):
with those standards of self esteem. So sad. That's why
so many older men end up alone and miserable. They
live in delusion. I just says that he isn't a
shame to say older women have two high standards. And
I don't want to evolve or get better in any way.
I want to date someone who thinks what I'm offering
is good enough. Sean says, in regards to comedy's role
in resistance, there's a reason why dictators begin by attacking
comedy and free speech. When I tie a course on

(50:53):
political humor, I began with the newspaper excerpt related to
this topic. The reason why comedy is important is because
it dictator me is the veil of legitimacy to be effective.
By delegitimizing the leader, you can make it impossible for
them to lead. Just like comedians and punders were able
to delegitimize Biden, who was not a dictator, they can
do the same to Teryrans. I agree with that. That's
a great point, because they definitely use comedy to be

(51:16):
like this, daughter and old man is gonna die and
I don't know. It's August of twenty twenty five. He
seems fine, he seems fine, and whenever he shows up,
he seems like he got his wits about him. And
maybe it's because we're not hyper focused on trying to
tear him down because we're so fucked now that people
are like shit you know, as opposed to the whole
like oh he stuttered over a word, Like every time

(51:39):
he shows up now he looks sharp, he's on point,
and then he moves and he's not having to be
on camera every fucking day. And we're also not pressuring
him to be like where is he what's he doing?
Like we're just like, well, he's not in charge.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
He's able to rest, get a whole eight hours to sleep.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
And I once again, it happened with Obama and it's
gonna happen with Biden. Let it. This man and his people,
Trump be in charge is going to elevate their legacies.
It's only going to elevate it. And it's going to
elevate it with people like me who already thought they
did a great job. But great, it's an unimpeachable job

(52:14):
compared to what Trump has done. So and I don't
live in this world of I expect perfection from Democrats
and nothing from Republicans. You can fit living in that world,
but we don't occupy the same lane when it comes
to discussions. So for me, I'm going to be like, yeah,
I hear what you're saying. Every time you bring up
something negative about these two, and I'm feel like, and

(52:37):
then we followed it up with Trump because we didn't
want better, right, So I don't like. I don't know
what country you think we're living in, but this is
not a country motivated by how do we do even
better than before? There's a country that didn't even like
the progress they got under those two and hit us
with a white lash immediately. In other words, we need
to treat the situation as a real threat while using

(52:57):
rhetoric to delegitimize entire right wing The craft totalitarian movement
by all means start with Trump, But given his parlor
parlor bruising and coordination issues, he seems to be suffering
from living and kidney failure, it may not be around
too long. Man. I don't know. I feel like that's
wish for thinking because I feel like they said the

(53:18):
same thing about Kim johnk h I think, and then
they say the same thing about Pootin every time he
shows up. People have been waiting on these motherfuckers to secretly.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Pass away for too long, kicking it.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
They got some shit in that White House that just
you know, keep you alive. And apparently no one really
cares about Trump's health. At least they don't. They don't
upsets over it the way they did Body Man. It's crazy,
and that man is not much younger than body, and
yet you just do not hear any There's no speculation,
there's no matter what he says or does, there's no
assumption of deterioration or diminishment. There's no scuttle But there's

(53:54):
no rumors. No one's writing a book, no one's interviewing
anybody off the record. It's right, right, So it's important
to take on the entire movement, especially the supremes. Classic
arn below says hi Rod and Caroen regarding the threat
to Jerry Mander in the retaliation for Texas as a
New Yorker one per promise that Kathy Hockel will not

(54:15):
will do absolutely nothing. She has an Upstate Democrat, which
is New York means Republican light. She got picked by
Croomo because she could speak the language of the upstate
magazine a way that would make them okay with voting
for a Democrat. Hockel does not think the wealthy should
be taxed or take some of the way off of
the backs everyone else. Hockle held a press conference well
she discussed how black kids in the Bronx are so

(54:37):
deprived that they do not know how to operate computers.
When challenged on her comment, infamous Trump fuck boy mayor
Eric kon Adams defended the Alabaster Angel basically said missy
Ann didn't need no harm. She's just trying to help
us pour black dummies. You forgot to say, Officer Mayor
Eric coon animals. But we all y'all dropped the ball

(54:58):
once in a while. As an I'm saying whatever. I
can also affirm the likelihood of Gavin Newsom doing absolutely
anything is Neil as well. He is looking to run
for higher office and was among the many who quickly
jumped on the Kambla has failed to connect with the poor,
misunderstood white voter. She and the Democrats would have been
better served by not focusing on transgender people in identity politics.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Hey, look, I'm going to vote for whoever the Democrats
put up. Let me just say that because I think
too much is I will never I will never be
guilty of the bullshit that these fucking progressors pull. Where
if they don't get that perfect candidate, fuck all of
us and we all go back to slavery. So I'll
just preface it with that. And I don't want to

(55:42):
nitpick each person in the next four years that may
or may not try to be a candidate, because it's
just not three years out. We're barely we need to
survive this first, right, But Gavin Newsom and his spicy
social media is not fooling me. Dog Like I'm We're
not gonna tweet our way out of this. And I

(56:03):
think the obsession with liking someone because their Twitter account
is spicy is a huge failing on the parts of
people who are supposed to be politically active this whole
like I like them now. I was on Karen Hunter
Show and I brought up Jamie Harrison, who I know
is persona not Grada with care. But my point I
was trying to make and I didn't get to make

(56:25):
it was this environment of resistance is powerful because the
people are fed up, and politicians mimic the people. They
don't lead the people, they mimic the people. That's what
representation is. Some of it is closer to the core

(56:46):
of who those people are, right, So, like Jasmine Crockett
is a fighter, and you feel representation when you see
her fighting. But Gavin Newsom, who is a fighter too,
you don't get me wrong, but he ain't a spicy
TWI like, that's a person he hired to do a
social media and people share it because it's like, oh,
he talking shit to Trump, And I'm like, cause he's

(57:07):
trying to run at some point elevate his platform via
Twitter spicy tweets, but his real life don't really knock
with the tweets. The tweets are very like, fuck all
these motherfuckers, and then his his policies, his platforms are
very much like, let's sit down with these people, let's

(57:28):
sit down with Steve Bennon's let's stop with all this
trans shit. That's enough, Let's worry about the issues that
affect the white voters. That's what he's on. So to
me is incongruent, and I can't get too excited about
his level of resistance. I hope he's petty and he's
able to make that blue map shit, but I don't
know if he's even being honest about the blue map

(57:49):
thing or he's just like this will look good because
you know who else started off like this and people
love him, but everybody got fucking lady boners for him
and man boners. I guess fucking chromo. I remember when
he was mister fuck Trump and everybody was like, oh,
some a my dak womo, and then he turns out
to be a weirdo and a fucking like sex pest

(58:10):
and all this shit, and now it's like, oh yeah, yeah,
fuck that guy too. So I don't know that I'm
turned on by the shit talking. I'm turned on by
the actions, the policies, stuff like that. I'm turned on
by you not sitting down with the architects of much
of this white supremacy we're experiencing. But some people just

(58:31):
like spicy tweets and that's why he's gaining popularity online, right.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
And I'm a person I want results. I don't care
about any of that shit. I want results in the
same I will vote for whoever the democratic person is.
But I also can vote for your ass and got them,
complain and tell you about your shortcomings and tell you, okay,
bitch you in there, but you represent me too. You

(58:56):
know I can put that demand on you. I have
the right to because I participated in the system. I
know that you are not perfect, But I also know
that you're not going to do the bullship that Trump
is doing. But I also can hold you accountable. I
don't not know about holding people the accountable. People don't understand.

(59:18):
You'd rather hold a fucking celebrity and accountable who don't
got no god damn vote, then a person who actually
has power over the things that happen your everyday life.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
All I have to say is those illusion o read
mostly white, these non white seeking proximity to whiteness, are
getting ready to get a rude awaken. As Karen always explains,
they just just because you ain't fighting for your life
every hour of the day doesn't mean you ain't in
the fight, right. Ms Marr says, thank you for addressing
the weirdness of observations that I had. There was an
adult performer by the name of Jake Adams who died
in the motorcycle accident back in either to twenty twenty

(59:51):
or twenty twenty one. When I scrolled and saw his
movies and paused, I wonder if I could enjoy knowing
that he died. And then you and Karen put it
in context that we are not going to stop watching
movies or listen to music for those who have died,
So why do we do this? Why should we do
the same when it's porn. Thanks for the banter, no problem. Yeah,
it's interesting that we draw that distinction. I'm sure it's

(01:00:12):
attached to shame and puritanical shit that we learned as
kids and all this stuff, but it is, you know,
Prince dies and it's like you can't stop listening to
his music or something you know, or yeah, or so
and so dies in a movie, and it's like, you know,
you don't, you don't come up, you don't feel ashamed
that you watch Chadwick Boseman, uh, you know, be a

(01:00:34):
supporting actor in the Blues movie like you like you
go man. This is an homage to his work. But
with porn, it's like never again, she's gonna be able
to look down look up for me? At hell? Well,
she is the devil is watching? All right? We got
fifteen comments on YouTube? All right, double t four or five?

(01:01:00):
Nine says hey, y'all, I'm so behind, but this video
came across my YouTube recommended, so I wanted to shout
y'all out, Karen is aging backward? What the helly? And
the slimmer Rod gets the more he looks like his mom. Okay,
let me go catch up. Thanks double T. Damien says,
I miss the days of fat facts of a feelings.
But when mainstream media is complicit and validating people's feelings

(01:01:22):
for ratings, is anyone surprised that we're here where we are? Nope,
you're right, Damion, none in your biz, says twenty one
jack salute laughing emojis y'all crazy? So is the salute
twenty one beats on my pud or is it twenty
one nuts? I got to make sure I do it
right so I can respectfully more in the next born Star.
Thanks for the etiquette tip. Kim Doc says, whoa the

(01:01:45):
way they drag tricked that is soup for my soul. Wowsers.
I was literally thinking, but you look like shit? What's
going on here? This that club shay shay school of thought.
Rod tricked all of us with the guest, the race,
that thief and the grateful dead ath leisure was diabolic, deceptive.
I don't like it. Where's the complaint jar complaint to
the criminal? He probably stole the complaint jar and the

(01:02:07):
tips that was in Italy? Can y'all sing the y'all
original Double the Points and guest the Race one day,
Double Points, Double the Race. That was my Jimmy jam. Yeah,
I think so. The main reason we stopped was because
it was actually licensed music from like a game show.
And when we went to Spotify especially, and YouTube does
this too. They demonetize your shit when you play license stuff,

(01:02:30):
depending on if they want to or not. Maybe us
singing over it would be enough to stop it, but
I'm not one hundred cent sure so. And Spotify, for
in particular when we were working with them, but did
not want to us violating those copyright things. So that's
why we never used it that way. So I don't know.
Maybe I'll think about it, but I don't know. Provocative

(01:02:52):
AF says what up, folks from Saint Louis to North
Carolina throw it up with roder Caaren, from Ferguson to DC.
The revolution will be televised. Dark Nander says, Yes, it
was a good time. Thanks five stars. Christoph says same.
I thought I was going crazy. So many active shooter
alerts had me paranoid about going to work. Yeah, them
active shooter alerts be happening a lot, man like every day.

(01:03:13):
Christoph says, I don't think I've ever witnessed everyone getting
guessed the race wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
It has a collective wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
It's rare, but it does have.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
It goes against all your senses, Like it literally goes
against like everything said white like, oh my gosh, what's
happening here?

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yeah, the girl from the Other side of the Road says, oh,
Kneelei Leek's show is so crazy, shed be saying whatever,
Like this is the same people she was telling She
was telling him that she was disgusted by his cooking,
and in another episode she told ts Madison that she'll
never be with a man that finds her attractive. The
clip is nothing to what she be saying on there.
She definitely look once we let being able to get attention.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Be a talent, Yeah, be a talent.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
You cannot be surprised that certain people will do anything
and say anything. So like, I'm not shocked that a
reality star show is like, here's let's just do an
hour of problematic shit. Now. I don't watch your show,
so maybe you're overstating it, but I'm just saying in general,
it's like, Okay, me saying something fucked up to their

(01:04:23):
face might give us a little more viral virality on
social media than we get if we had a nice, healthy,
nuanced conversation. Damien says, I'm sorry, but no one from
this and men should be even trying to extend condolences.
After all, after all, unless the person fits their mold,
do you believe a word of their lip service? I

(01:04:43):
don't even remember what that what we was talking about,
but no, right, yeah I do not. Aj AJ shows upset.
Speaking about white voters is so depressing. I feel like
we're living in a nightmare, and I keep waiting for
someone to wake us up. When I was in grade school,
I used to not understand how the holocomus happened. How
did they get away with such a massive atrocity. I

(01:05:03):
now know and understand. We're living in a country where
the reality is something like that happening. Here is becoming
more and more and more like something that could happen
in reality. Not just that, Aj, Not just that dog.
America is a holocaust from the inception of the white

(01:05:24):
version of America. It starts on a genocide, then it
switches into slavery, right then it switches into two hundred
years of like Jim Crow type, you know, bullshit like
Jim Crow and lynching and all this shit all the
way to like the civil rights movement. It's always been

(01:05:45):
a struggle to get this country to be better, and
it never It pats itself on the back for the
smallest of games and then immediately pushes back. And I
think what happens is that even good people have been

(01:06:05):
taken in by the propaganda of this country and they
don't understand it. So they say stuff like America's not
living up to its ideals, and I'm like, that's if
you think those are the ideals. As they were writing
those ideals, they were raping people. They were beating people,
they were killing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
People serving them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
They were selling people's children to different places where they
couldn't be together. They were denying humanity. They were not
allowing women to vote or have money at all, have
banking accounts. This country is full of shit and has
one hundred percent always been. This is the legacy of
this country. We're living it, and it's up to us

(01:06:46):
to accept that. We are in a constant fight to
make anything positive of this situation. And what happens, I
think a lot of time is liberal people they feel
like the progress of yesterday, yesterday. It don't be like
a million years ago, be yesterday. They feel like it's
a given and we're not moving back, and that we

(01:07:08):
just want perfection or nothing else. They don't see it
as a tug of war where it's like, fuck, they're pulling,
They're pulling the other way all the time, and we're
over here fussing at each other. Right so uh but yeah,
you know, I hate to say it that plane, but honestly,
that's why I love this show is that we can say,
at that plane, I don't have to worry about going to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Commercial right right up, cutting short or whatever. And I
one hundred percent agreed, because I am like they pulling,
we pulling, And I am the type person look back
at you to fuck you fussing about like big pool,
like nobody cares about whatever, YadA YadA, YadA you talking about.
It's like if you don't pull, we're both going to lose.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Yeah, the Holocaust never stopped happening in America, Jason says
Man the firing of a woman who reported the job
numbers might be the worst thing Trump has done the
second term, at least structurally. In theory, some things can
be reversed once a new person is in office, but
no one will ever trust the job report us again. Yeah,
that's kind of why I went to CDC, and he
wasn't able to like get those people out of in charge,

(01:08:10):
but he put enough pressure on them that sometimes they
say shit because they were instructed to say shit. And
then we people who should know better, use that against
the CDC to be like, the CDC just be saying anything,
Like we don't know why they just be saying anything,
and so now we don't trust the CDC the same
way he criticized COVID, politicized COVID. The economic data is meaningless.

(01:08:32):
Moving forward to the citizens, I was somewhat happy when
you read the story about the dude who was committing
crimes in the same clothes. Since this world is getting
more batmany every day, I was looking forward to a
real life riddler and shout out to the brother that
was collecting white women like he was opening the yoga studio.
He might be the first person charged with serial credit
ruining the poets. Do you think comedians have had any

(01:08:54):
role in helping Trump back the power? Ninety five percent
people say yes, four percent say no. Yeah, I think
I think. I think it's almost impossible to think they haven't.
I mean, I don't feel like arguing with nobody about it.
But like when you have the biggest podcast in the
world and you invite Donald Trump, Elon Musk and JD
vance on, Yes, you had you had a hand in

(01:09:16):
it because you and it made sure not to invite
Kam Larrison or to just have a scheduling conflict like
you had a hand in it, yeah, or Tim Wallas
you didn't have him on either. Yeah, you you picked
us Oude and now you wanted to act like you're
surprised how bad this has got? Right thirty one forty
what happened to the Platinum Plan? We got's see a

(01:09:39):
great question? Non comments? All right, let's see what we got.
Oppia says that someone who lives with children, I could
tell you random cuts or so are not from getting old,
because the children have little a little some little something.
Always they are young by definition. What's this? I asked them,
and I get my favorite answer, always no idea, she said,
seconding this with happy nine. Even some of my random

(01:10:00):
leg bruises off from kids climbing on me to cuddle.
The other ten percenting are just white mystery. I'm pale
and bruise if you look at me too hard. Well,
I think you two are making two different points. I've
just saying, even when people are young children, they don't
know how they get cut or remember. So that's what
she's saying that we're older saying, I guess I'm getting old.
I don't know how I got cut on my leg.

(01:10:21):
She's like nobody ever knew when how they got cut
on their legs, even babies.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
It's always been the thing nobody knows.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
And shoe boody, I think interpreted as saying, my random
cuts come from my children who be running around doing
shit and I got cut by them, and they be
wanting to cuddle, and I don't be remembering how the
fuck they fucked me up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
It's crashy with a fingernail or some shit and not
even know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Ill says Riot is telling the truth again. When you
talked about talk to old German people. Everyone was against
the Nazis and suffered from them. There were no supporters
in the Nazi seem to be a small, very effective gang. Right.
It's crazy people do not Yeah, it's crazy, justin says Man.
And meanwhile Meanwhile, I'm sure Germany has some version of like, uh,

(01:11:07):
ultra white, ultra right conservative, neo Nazi something popping somewhere.
I'm not saying it's like the majority, but there's people
who are still on that bullshit somewhere in the country.
And it's like, yeah, so this still exists, It's still
a problem. It's like no, no, no, no, it was
it was no big deal then, okay, all right. Justin

(01:11:31):
says man. I've seen people talking about Little Tay. I
had no clue who she is, but to find out
it's that little girl is crazy, right, Yeah, that white
girl avatar phase of rap was crazy, and I hope
it's over. I don't think there's been any new ones lately,
but god, that was that was just ridiculous. Yes, running around,
Fel says, I just want to say thank you for
this episode. There's always another awesome, tastic work. Sean says,

(01:11:53):
already posted too many long posters. We just wanted to
say good episode. He says. I'm at an age where
I can get injured sneezing. I remember sneeze so iry
to put a muscle in my stomach exercise regularly, but
if I get too intense. I don't recover like I
used to, so I feel your pain. Yeah, And I
think it's just because I had to do all that cardio.
Because I went back to the gym and I did
the exercise routine I did the week before, and I

(01:12:16):
was able to put to do our four sets. It
took me a little longer than normal, but it wasn't
like anything to stand like. I wasn't like fatigued at
the end in any way. That was where I couldn't
finish the set. So I think it's just that when
we did the latest one, I was doing four sets
of row bike ski machine in a row with just

(01:12:40):
a minute rest or two between sets. And like, so
you do three in the u ress? Do you do three?

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Then you do?

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
And yeah, I think that's what it was. She says
the white people news was white people in this episode.
These are relaxing white people's stories. I like to hear
they struggling to it all cooked this fuck right? Sean said,
I once dislocated my shoulder teaching preschool. Looks oh yeah,
but like how was it from punching them in their face?

(01:13:09):
I don't not how did you do it? Like you?
Just like you say, you dislocated, but you're teaching them
some respect. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Ms Mars says, with your good PIMPI in.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
The all time champion of sleep injuries has reported for duty.
I really don't know what the hell I do. Sometimes
when I just went to bed and woke up to
hip pain, leg pain, sore mouth or pain. The list
goes on. Sometimes I wonder from fighting demons in my sleeping.
That's the case, I need the sword, But I digress.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Let's see YouTube. This was what happened to the Platinum Plan.
Let's see how many comments? Nineteen? Wow? Okay, all right,
here we go. Karen B Knowing says, Hugh agreed. Yay uh.
Nick the Scientist says, I don't think ice Cube is pivoting,
but he claimed ignorance and now surprised at who Trump is.

(01:13:58):
I think famous people like you just looking out for
their own self interest. What do you think I mean
by pivoting? You described exactly what pivoting is. You're like,
I don't think he's pivoting. I just think he is,
you know, fake surprise because he put surprise in quotes
and claiming ignorance, and just because he's looking out for

(01:14:20):
his self interest. That's exactly what a pivot is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
We actually agree, that's exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
What I'm saying. So you do think ice Cube is
pivoting Cat b from DC says, I started feeling sympathy
for bad Bobby, Bad Bobby or baby Maybe I forget
how you said bad Baby after learning she went to
that abusive camp Doctor Phil Center too. Yeah, I remember
that documentary. The Netflix documentary of the program shed light

(01:14:45):
on what she endured there was truly disturbing. She came
across as surprisingly genuine, even a bit fragile. I really changed.
I'll see her, so I said, also knowing that her
boyfriend is abusive as well, with her being so young,
so you just hope she comes out on the other side. Okay,
one hundred percent here, y'all. I feel what y'all saying.
I think, honestly, I think a lot of what's happened

(01:15:07):
for her is about her mom basically being a weird
show mom who let her would do anything for a
daughter to be famous, because the whole Doctor Phil thing
is a set up anyway, like you take them on
their own. So my child is so terrible anyway. By
her album Catch Me outside. How about that, you know,
like and then she like encouraged her and promoted her

(01:15:30):
because I think the undercurrent of it isn't necessarily about
her being a good or bad person, because I think
that is subjective and can change based on what circumstance
you're looking at. I know, you know what bad things
happen to people, and then people a lot of times go, well,

(01:15:50):
then that's why it's okay for you to be bad.
I think what bothers me the most is that this
is not a sympathetic world, meaning the social media world
that will defend her is the same one that will
take her down. Like there's the same people that say
horrible things about them. And the idea of using this

(01:16:11):
connection to black masculinity is this taboo thing has always
bothered me, and black culture is this taboo thing. It
bothers me because it's not like she's saying I come
from this. It's like, how do I show society that
I'm you know, rock and roll and a rebel and

(01:16:34):
bad and you know, dangerous. I just pretend to be
a black girl, because that's what she did, Like she
don't grow up and be with black people, don't anyway,
I feel y'all. I hear what y'all saying. I don't
think there's anything wrong with having empathy and safety for
that girl, because I really think she was a child,
and she was a child, and now she's an adult,

(01:16:56):
and my guess is she will do and say some
horrible shit it sooner or later. And a lot of
y'all that have been like, I have a lot of
empathy for her are gonna have to struggle with that
because that's what a lot of people weaponize this, this
kind of idea of like, well, we want to be empathetic,
but sometimes people just keep crossing the line to there's

(01:17:18):
not much left to say, you know, and uh Kanye
Iggy Azell Yah Zelia bangs Amber rows like a lot
of these people, it's just like whatever happened to them
has warped them in such a way that there's just
nothing you can do about it. But yeah, I feel y'all.

(01:17:38):
Brees says ice Cube, what you are all for? Trump
Dark Namer says the Utah rape case could have been
in the guest the race segment. Yeah, I've been trying
to do my best to stay away from stuff that's
too dark going and guess the race. It's just we're
trying to have fun to make light and uh, you know,
I think sometimes the stories can get too dark. They

(01:17:59):
are like sometimes there are dark things that happen. I'm
not but like something like that. I wouldn't put in
that just because I you know, it's just it's just yuck.
Damien says, Bride. You know them payments ain't going to
the golf slash treasury. That ship going to a special
bank account set up by Trump and the Heritage Foundation.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Yeah, no way, no way, that's going to US direct
depositive that you US dot gooz ain't getting shipped.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
I was. It was somewhat serious for a moment, but
overall good show. Thanks dark Namja. Uh let's see, Damien
says is ice Cube on the Candic's orange redemption towards sir,
get the fuck out of here? Did your platinum plan?
Did your platinum turn into ten four or something? I
definitely wouldn't be surprised if Clarence Thomas dealing the death

(01:18:47):
blow the second sex marriage and interracial marriage, Jenny b
damn not really what works uh me ain't available for oh,
because what works for me ain't available for THEE. I
see what you're saying, right, vander Biden said it best
fuck George Clooney. Karen is right and that we gotta
stop listening to Celes because they are disconnected from reality.
The other average person says c JP. Yeah, rod Olivia

(01:19:12):
Rodrigo isn't white, She's Filipino. You don't got to be
white to be in White people knows, but I appreciate
the correction.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
White people just be talking about. That's not black people
being white people news.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
It's not really about your race. It's one of the
white people talking about ms. Rowe says, regarding the Cube,
I'm seventy five percent fuck with because Americans in general,
people who would listen to CUE for political advice are
as smart as a box of rocks. And then for
Q to endorse dumps Platinum Plant and turn around and say,
this is crazy, how do we forget? How do we
get here? Is bullshit and put a battery in their

(01:19:44):
back to vote for Trump twenty twenty four. That's why
we're here, que exactly. TKG one says, Damn Rod punch
Caaren in the lip might need to change the name
of the show to the Black to the Black eye
who tips laughing about animate princess. I haven't had a
chance to catch you guys in a wild great episode.

(01:20:05):
My problem with Cuban the podcast bro is that there
are people of means and resource resources, yet they choose
to be misinformed and ignorant, and at least at them
they do, and then they also choose to broadcast it
to us.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Yeah, we didn't have to know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
You could be ignorant in private enough.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
That I can guarantee you. In my lifetime, I was
part of around a lot of dumbests and just didn't
know because the dumbest didn't say nothing. Because back in
the day you say dumb shit, people be like that
shit is dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
None of them was curious enough to question anything because
it was all about the big QC and being QC
with the potential president and direspecting the woman candidate. In
my opinion, Yeah, the other thing I think about that
too is these motherfuckers believed in every conspiracy theory except
to Project twenty twenty five. That's crazy, that's crazy. They

(01:20:53):
questioned everything, vaccines, taxes, Epstein files, everything, every conspiracy Q
or not. They was on all of it. You say,
twenty twenty five, They're like, what's that man, bro, I
don't know. Andrew Schouws comes across my feet and all
this excuse Mason is making this incoherent. That's why I

(01:21:14):
believe you see people like Bill Burn Mark Marin speaking
up against these guys more forcuately, because these white wing
comedians are political now while lying and saying that they
are not agree.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Once you step into that, once you step into the realm,
you should be held account now. That's me. And because
this is go back to me and write your conversation. Yeah,
you didn't have to do this. Once you put a
voice out there, once you kind of put your put
your tip, tap your toe in, you cannot go back.
So I can't sit here and watch you do this

(01:21:47):
shit and then look me in my face and be like,
that's not what I voted for, bitch, Yes it is.
That's all you voted for. You were here, you this is,
this is the things you told me. Just because you
didn't quote unquote full throat it, come out with your
chest and say I'm gonna vote for this nigga. You
did you did, you did it. It's like it walked
like a cat, It acts like a cat. It's a cat,

(01:22:08):
and you gonna tell me it's a gotamn dog. No, bits,
this is a cat. Hit me out at me, bitch,
and so you can't look me in my eye and
tell me it's a got damn dog and gas like
me and make me think I'm crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Cuzaell says, I love the look on Karen's face when
ice Cube was talking my sentiments exactly. Yes, she was
all of us the poul. Have you ever gotten injured
but didn't remember how you got injured? Eighty one percent
half nineteen percent have not, So shout out to the
nineteen percent that can all the cuts and scars. We'll
see if you, guys, if I did it again next year,

(01:22:40):
I feel like the numbers should be a little higher. Yep,
everybody get a year older. It's like, shit, got me.
I remember the first time I sneezed and hurt my back.
I was like, I didn't know you could do that
me either. How people was making a weird joke, but
that is not a joke. It hurts. It's no joke.
All right, Let's go to the next one and not fun.
But first ILL play a song, the Gospel of Doctor Umar.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
Fraudulent Activity on a bank account is a federal offense.
Fraudulent activity on a bank account is federal offense. Fraudulent
activity on a bank accounts the Federals.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Doctor?

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
You went from cat American the plan had the lab
preaching from the pole pit.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
The doc got a plast sacking knowledge. I had in the.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
Pyramid seat upon the chest my sharper than the dagger,
but had the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Thus make the hated sagger. I receiat slugger than the
nowns flow. You know the schools planing seeds where the
mons grow. He the prince a playing that break the
mental change of prince for the culture running through his veins? Doctor,
where's the school going? Beat down? When he started? My
son was troveled out. He's thirty one? Where's the money
did you taking?

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
For money?

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
On the hand, you want to make a donation to
the fire every bird of Good Dade? Wow, it's a
whole song song, all right, dad? Episode is thirty one
forty one to Epstein off remp got five comments. Ipa says,
Azelia made me think about asses again. You discussed the
topic in a former show. What exactly is a good ass?

(01:24:11):
In your opinion? And the opinion of the listeners. I
might also not know. I looked at my ass in
the mirror. The good thing about it is it is
visibly there, and the round part is directed upwards when
you look from the side. I wouldn't need any paths
to push us. But of course it's not as impressive
as the ones who got some help from the plastic surgery.
Great that we could talk about the real important topics here.

(01:24:32):
I don't really have much to say, man about the
ass thing. I think me and JL talked a little
bit more about it the next day, but I'm really
serious about it. I everybody's body is different, yep. Everybody
has their own preferences and stuff. I think what was
funnier is the distinction in race for how ass is

(01:24:54):
completely different and meaning to different people.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
That's the only point. I'm pointing out, what are your
like or don't or what's good or bad about it?
I think what should be taken from that discussion is
his ass for everybody. Yeah, it is, because there's somebody
out there that I'm like, you think that's a big ass,
and and they're and they're like yes, and it's perfect,
and I'm like Okay, okay, good somebody for everybody cool like,

(01:25:22):
so there you go. But yeah, it's definitely cultural because
you know, and I don't want to be on the
show judging y'all's asses. That is fucking weird. Not that
y'all don't have nice buzzings, but it's just weird for
me on the show to be like sending pictures of
your butts let me see. Okay, that's a six.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Like I would vetold that idea, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
It's a weird fucking thing to do. But good luck. Also,
don't you already have a perfect husband and family and shit,
you you don't need nobody to be on that ass
you good. Ernest said, sorry for commenting before I finished
listening to the show, But regarding beach Blanket Becky, let's
make up names anyway, but I'll start a net non
fun of Sello, No fun of Sello. That's funny, he says.

(01:26:05):
I think by the time you get around to fuck
with Black People segment, everything gets at your cars before
you even read a story, because I'm already mad from
the politics till we get mad segment. But we have
been doing fucking with Black people less because we're doing
politics till we get mad. I think Cardi, like Nikki,
needs to take a break from the Internet because clearly
it's not good for her mental health. People talk about
parasocial relationships and how it makes fans feel entied to

(01:26:25):
the celebrity's life, but it works both ways. Some of
these celebrities feed off of the feedback they get from
net fans, and it's probably why Cardi felt comfortable making
those statements about fat people. Yeah, I mean, I mean,
technically our feedback show is a feedback show about feedback
or whatever. But I'll tell you what the difference is,
I think is it's not an active, designated space that

(01:26:50):
She's like, I'm having this coordinated discussion with my fans.
It's just anyone can say anything, and then I feel
like I can say anything, and then it's just it
is bound to hurt your feelings because not these people
are not all rooting for you. Some people just want
to watch something burn.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, And you know the internet can
give you, like I say, and they of that group,
like I say, who came the rides came up through
the Internet, and so you know, it's hard for those
people to separate the two but you know, and it's

(01:27:32):
a cycle because they praise you, they love you, they
tell you the best you do something they don't like.
You're not shit, you're not worthy, you're unough, young girl,
a bitch, whatever it is, and then they love you again.
It's a cycle, and that's not healthy for anybody, because
you a whole ass human being that grows and evolves

(01:27:56):
and changes and things like that. And I like, everything
is not meant to be for the internet. Cry in private,
you know, fuss do It's certain things that I want
to do and they say, yeah, like I said, that's
just me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
It's yeah, it's just a lot. I don't know it.
I think our brains are not wired for the Internet
for real, because our brains are still animal brains. Like
and so it's like your brain the dopa meaning it
is like I'm talking to my friends, but these are

(01:28:35):
not your friends. This is just an audience of people
who may or may not like you, right, But there's
no like, it is not the same as talking to
people that root for you. It's not even necessarily talking
to your fans. Once you're going you're that famous, right,
and so some of the shit gets through and yeah,
I don't know if it's take a break, find a
different way to relate or whatever, or just they've accepted

(01:28:58):
that this part of the cycle for them. They're gonna
get called out, They're gonna be unapologetic, people are gonna
not like them. They're gonna constantly be hurt that people
don't like them. Because it's greedy. There's a greed there.
I think the main thing for me that I like
about it, and maybe it's petty or selfish or whatever.
I don't know what I would describe it as. But

(01:29:18):
I like Dojah Cat, Cardi, b Lizo, Beyonce. I like
when they do stuff where they're not perfect, and yet people,
especially black women in the age of the Internet social media,
find themselves kind of either making excuses or justifying it

(01:29:41):
or siding with them or appreciating their defiance. And it's
not because I think they're right. I think it's probably
a wrong. It's wrong to back someone who is being
actively wrong when you know better. You should be like, yeah,
that's fucked up, Cardi, you should apologize, and she's fucked
up for that. But what I like about it is
because it's an honesty to the fact that people are

(01:30:04):
like wait, I like this person, and I don't want
to give him up, right, because on the internet anyway,
everyone tries to make every other group give up their
quote unquote bad person and bad I don't necessarily mean
like evil criminal. I just mean like, yeah, they've said
something problematic, they've done something that you don't appreciate, whatever

(01:30:26):
stuff that. We used to be like, yeah that person
did that, that was fucked up, and then we'd be like,
that was just one thing they did, and like that
we move on from the rest. Right. It's been nice
to see that everyone has that same impulse because I
see it all as a straight black dude. I see
it all the fucking time, and I try to avoid
it myself to where it's like, I'm just defending this

(01:30:46):
guy because he reminds me of other straight black men.
It's like, if you do something wrong, you did something wrong.
I don't see any harm in the many they did
something wrong. I also don't think every time somebody says
or does something wrong that it's get rid of them
time either, I think. And the point is, I think
what I'm saying is very normal, meaning I think most
people think what I'm saying is normal. The vast majority

(01:31:07):
of people know exactly what the fuck I mean when
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't think. For example, uh,
when Chance the Rapper used to defend Kanye West, I'll
be like, shut the fuck up, Chance, But I wasn't
like fuck Chance the Rapper. Forever it's on site, it
was like, shut the fuck up. But what happens is

(01:31:29):
on the internet other people. So now you got black women.
It's like, if a black woman would have said that,
y'all would have got rid of her. It's like, one,
I don't know that that's true, but okay, if that
you think we're just defending Chances as a black man, Okay.
It's been nice to see people just defend CARDI just
defend uh doja Cat because I'm like, at least you

(01:31:52):
have some humanity where you couldn't admit damn me too.
Sometimes I struggle with this too. I'm not as black
and white as I pretend to be. It is much
easier to be black and white with other people's faiths
and groups. And because it was really never about that
for me, it was just like I don't fuck with
them anyway. That was an easy one. It's not a

(01:32:13):
layup to get rid of Doja Cat, especially in the
world where you see how disposable people like that are.
You're like, shit, yes she did fuck up, but like,
if that was blank star, if that was because that
was another thing. A friend of mine was like, you know,
Cardi and Lizzo and some of these people that's so
on the internet and that her identification with this was like,

(01:32:37):
you know, I think part of me feels defensive of
them because they're black women and they get it harder
than other people. And I was like, yes, but can
we take it one step further. White women that are
stars like this don't be on their ig live like that.

(01:32:57):
So the question is, and it's not a cultural thing.
I don't think. I'm saying they feel protected and established
enough from the industry that they don't think they gotta
reach directly out to fans every day through Twitter, spaces
or whatever the fuck else some of these black women
have to do because they like, man, my shit is precarious.

(01:33:18):
I have to I can't depend on the record label
and all this shit. I need to go talk to
these people every day when I'm doing my makeup or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Because if something happens, I might have to go to
them to death, to directly.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
I need them to feel a connection to me that
I don't think I can safely get from just popping
up and being like I got an album, Okay, see
you guys in a couple of years, Like, no, I
think I need to always be on. And so I
think that's where race actually does affect. It is that
feeling of like precariousness that you can never just chill
because we all say, like, why don't these black women

(01:33:52):
just get off the end of the I'm like, they probably
don't think they can. They probably do not think I
can disappear from the internet and still be popping up
year from now, two years from now when I'm like, guys,
I'm back with a new single. Beyonce can do it,
but a lot of black women probably will never feel
that level of comfort, right. And the reason I wanted
to point out is because Chapeleron Chapelerone used to be

(01:34:14):
on TikTok, Instagram, twitch all this shit all the fucking time, yep,
And it drove her fucking crazy. It drove her. People
was on her ass because she could not be perfect
and consistent all the time. And so that to me
is why I say the bigger point is not necessarily
the racial point. It's the point of the internet, social media.

(01:34:34):
This is the currency of the Internet. This rage, this
call out, this controversy, this, this clickbait, this out of context,
that is the bigger picture to me. And so whether
Carti or Lizzo or Chaperone or whoever, it's always gonna
end up right here where we're like, Yo, Cardi said

(01:34:56):
a thing and people got mad, and then she got mad,
and then everybody was mad because the mad is the
is the currency for real.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Yeah, the mad is the currency.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
That's what we're selling. I saw the original video when
she made the joke, and being someone who had struggled
with wait most of my life, I personally didn't take offense.
But it's not up to me to decide what should
and shouldn't offend other people. Yeah, that's basically how I
live too. It's like like people be saying shit and
I'd be like, a different person would have been upset
by this. I might not be upset by it, but
you know, I do pick up on it and I

(01:35:27):
can't recognize it, and it's just it happens a lot
like fat phobia is so fucking serious. In our society,
it happens a lot. It's just not it's just built
into it. And I think, you know, in my opinion, look,
you could take up the manto and go, I'm gonna
fight all these people for the rest of my life.
I personally, for the most part, just kind of try

(01:35:48):
to go, Okay, this exists. How am I going to
navigate my day anyway? And how do I try not
to let that shit into my my soul because it
hasn't been helpful for me. It hasn't made me motivated
to change my life through shame and guilt and pain
and anger and all that stuff. I know that's what
motivates some people. That's not for me. And I think

(01:36:09):
if that was a motivating factor, they would have got
you already, right, if it was like I've struggled with
my weight. But thank god, Cardi B said, I ain't
making no three X shirts, your fat bitch. That's what
got my life together. If then then your life would
have been got together the twenty seven other times somebody
said some bullshit like that. But ultimately, people exist in
privilege and they don't gotta think about that shit, you know,

(01:36:32):
And I'm sure we all exist in some levels of
privileged and communicate in such a way that there's people
who are hurt by those intersections when we don't see
ourselves walking through them or jaywalking across them. So our
hurt will hurt others, and we will be hurt by others.
And that's just part of life. Life is pain, and

(01:36:54):
we're gonna have to live with it sometimes and decide
when you're gonna fight on that battle for that. She's
so famous that she said that. And then a woman
who is a content creator for fighting against fat phobias, like, ooh,
content content, Now, who knows? I feel like if I
look into her, I'm gonna find some people that go

(01:37:15):
I don't like her. And she said, some things aren't perfect.
It's kind of just the currency of the Internet. I
also think that lady Samia likes to create problems for
content in the name of activism for fat people. So
there you go. And like I said, I don't know
her work like that, you seem to know it, and
you're saying, as a bigger person yourself, you think she'd
be doing too much, got it? For example, she films

(01:37:36):
herself going into stores that claim to be sides inclusive,
but when she can't find her side, she harasses the
store clerks with cameras pointing in their faces and that's
why they don't have her size. Yeah, that does seem
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Understand how they ain't got nothing to do with that.
They just work there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Yeah, they're not making decisions at the top of the chain, right,
I don't understand how that tactic is. Okay, wouldn't be
better to contact the COPRA office or the owners of
the stores instead of harassing the person who has no
control over what gets stocked in the stores. I think
her calls for fat inclusive inclusivity is a righteous woman.
But at the end of the day, since I was
a content creator seeking clicks, Yeah, the content creation part

(01:38:11):
of all this shit and the clicks it undermines all
of us. It just is it is, and you do
more and more outlanded ship for the clicks, and whether
it's helping people or not, it kind of becomes secondary.
Most important thing is that the camera's pointed at you,
and you're the one causing whatever the commotion is and

(01:38:34):
so and it's and it's a competition. There's somebody else
out there that's like looking at her clicks, going fuck
she got six million off that shit? What can I do?
You know? Yep? Shewoody says. The way I can't differentiate
Bill Pullman and Bill Paxon by name, it's the same
way I can't get Iggy Azela and Azeia Bank straight.

(01:38:55):
Two names, two different problematic people. Yeah, mine is Jack
nichol Son and Jack Nicholas. I don't know which one
play golf. Which got to see their faces? Ms Barr says,
shout out to my older and younger sister. We're still
having their AOL email addresses. When you played the dial

(01:39:16):
up sound and core memory was unlocked, and memories of
the monitor with my fat ass back, the tower that
with the fat ass back. Okay, the monitor had a
fat back, Yes, the tower that dope. I was like,
why did you say what? Okay? I get it?

Speaker 5 (01:39:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
The tower that doubled as shell a shelf and.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
They did this shit was was thick and wide.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
A night spent on Adult friend Finder came rushing back.
Rest in peace. AOL dial up. You were the realist
MVP back in the early two thousands.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
I know if somebody get a resume now with the AOL.
They treated like you said, like it's a black person's name.
Look at AOL.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
Right, all right, let's get to YouTube. We got sixteen
comments over here. Dark No, I'm Joe. Left a bunch,
she says. I was wondering why the distinction was made.
I thought everyone knew. I think he's talking about me,
saying Karen's my wife. It's just funny to me to
see and there's nothing to happen. There's no reason I'm
saying it. I just think it's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
And every now and then we get somebody to go.
I didn't know y'all was married.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
I think it's funny that every once in a while
we're blowing somebody's mind with that because somebody was just
like what They just cool as hell and got a
podcast together. The teams still represent one point four million
working men and women at virtually every occupation throughout the
United States and Canada, including mini in the construction industry.
Two thirds of the teams TO members worked in one
of five divisions warehouse, partial freight, public employees, and industrial trades.

(01:40:36):
Thank you, Ramsey replied. Members are blue collar and white
collar workers in both sectors public and private. Now just
says absolutely, Banks mailing new credit cards is way too obvious.
Oh yeah, for that thief. Fifty six thousand a year
and benefits is a nice little piece. Depending on where
you live, she gave it all up for that thug life.
Thanks for another good show. Five stars for the humor,

(01:40:58):
love and enjoy. You both radiate despite the world falling apart,
says Ramsey. pH done, thank you, Thank you. Kim Doc says,
I still remember that Iggy azel your freestyle on Sway
in the Morning about the worst thing I've ever heard. God,
it was so bad. Please go listen to that. If
you can't have it, it's astounding. Always thought she was
an industry plant that failed. Yeah, that was wild, wild times.

(01:41:20):
As Carter says, why did I think for the most
part of most of the story you were talking about
Ezela Banks instead of Iggy Azalea. I totally forgot about
that little lost girl. Both are so forgettable, Damien says.
So it's really wild for your union to sell you
out to the boss. Those hard earned union dudes definitely
gotta put be put to good use. Not h you

(01:41:43):
mean identity politics voting Republican voting for whiteness. So when
Jeffrey was in jail the first time, he had the
same kind of culsh she deal when he got to
come and go almost as he pleased. Basically weekend lock
up Jeffrey Epstein, I'm asumming Cardi B said the girl
on the other side the road. Cardi B better turn
it down because when her album drops and doesn't top

(01:42:03):
Nicki Minaj, she'll become the joke and they start clown
to her. She better not show up crying. That is
a good point. I did not think about that, Yeah,
because that's the there's a lot of pressure on her
with that album because if it's any level of a flop,
these same people that you know, quote unquote root for

(01:42:24):
her will absolutely go in on her because they know
it gets to hear and they really be wanting that attention. Yes,
bis Drone says, a great discussion. A lot of crazy happening,
but I'm more than ready. Alan Alander or isn't isn't
Urs says, I just got here. Thank you for explaining.
Y'all are married. See that was fun. Jason says, Yo.

(01:42:50):
When Trump is done with the Smithsonian, the founding fathers
will be Washington, Jefferson and Ronald McDonald. I love the
teams to discussion. I love how people say in the
DEM's abandoned unions when you is basically defected right after
black people in the South got the right to vote,
those southern white Democrats couldn't handle black people being included
and voted for Reagan, who destroyed the unions. Fifty years

(01:43:10):
later and people are still telling that Dems abandoned the
working class. Lie. Finally, the funny thing about how some
of the pod bros Are turning on Trump is that
I don't think it's about Trump being unpopular now. I
think this true. They've lost some of that audience since
Trump has been in office, But I think the partly
because he's now competition for them instead of a collaborator.
If you wanted a biggot it conspira, if you want

(01:43:31):
to biggoty conspiracy theories, why would you listen to Rogan
or Schultz when you got that pure uncut in the
White House? Ah, I disagree. I don't think. I don't
think it's because they think Trump is competition. I don't.
I think all those people can't wait to be in
a room with him again. I think they're going to
be at UFC with him. I think they're lying even
about being like hurt by him. I think this strictly

(01:43:53):
that these motherfuckers care so much about their own egos
and platforms, that that loss of popularity, that law standing
within their podcast and comedian social circles. I think it
hurts them, and I think it's the only thing they
care about. I don't even think they care about his
policies or the people hurt bound. Yeah, and I don't

(01:44:14):
even think Trump has given you enough conspiracy theories from
the White House. He actually he's he's no longer truly
like giving you like man this this Q and nine right,
Like it's like I won like if anything. Can y'all
stop stop talking about Epstein? That's enough, right, Here's a
non here's a non conspiraency. Can't y'all care about this

(01:44:35):
the one y'all don't care about, Like, I don't think
it's competition at all. But that's just my opinion the poe.
Have you ever had your credit card stolen? Yes, fifty
eight percent. I don't think that's a high percentage. I
don't think I have. I don't think I've had mind stolen.
But that is a high percentage went out of almost

(01:44:56):
every two of us had a credit card stolen. Shit
all right, last thing or last episode for these comments
thirty one forty two straight. Al Covan got ten comments
on this one. And I watched this special Trump versus Canada.
It's on YouTube. It's free, hilarious. It's so good. It's

(01:45:16):
so fucking good. I won't spoil anything for you, but Jail,
it's so over the top. The water. When y'all get
to the water, y'all, y'all will know tag me hit
me on Twitter. That was the funniest I if I
was drinking water, I would have spit it out. That's
how funny. It Just only one dude can do that,
Like I hear. I'm like, I'm not the stickler on

(01:45:40):
Trump impressions the way JL is, because obviously JL does
it the most and the best, so he's able to
like evaluate, like why someone's doesn't work, why okay he
got this element, but not that being on stage for
our fifteen minutes as Trump extemporaneously and then the audience

(01:46:03):
lobbying the questions at you, and then you're turning that
into stand up.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
That's one of those like, yeah, okay, like you get
to be the guy that does this because not every
these other people. I won't go so as far as
to call them like hacks or anything disrespectful, but like
these other people are not playing the same game, you
know what I mean. It's like some people are doing
like I want to do a home run derby. Some
people are you know, running forties. Jail is just completely

(01:46:35):
becoming that dude but still making it funny on that stage.
And yeah, the quality was great. The drone shot whatever
that thing was was cool, and he was on fire.
The audience was eating it up, and the artist is
even doing that thing where like, you know, they're not
supposed to eat all of it up. It is Trump.

(01:46:55):
So like sometimes he'll say something and it's funny, but
part of the funny is that the audience would be
like this fucking guy, why did he say that? You know,
like like the audience for a second forgets like this
is Trump, Like this is not jail Covin, this is Trump.
And then and then he says something so discussing they
forget that it's jail for a second. I'm like, fuck you,

(01:47:16):
Oh wait, no, that was funny. I forgot you were
that is, he is a piece of shit. Who would
think that was okay? Anyway? I loved it so highly
recommend and it's free, go go check it out. Ronan
Raphael says, Jail Coven is the gold. My goodness, I
knew I had to be indorsed by the Burnthal impression
them then Jefferys and Billy Bob Thornton had me on

(01:47:36):
the floor. I didn't even know you really could do
Billy Bob that good. That was good, Billy Bob. I
saw a commercial with Billy Bob that night and I
was just thinking to Jail, I was like, damn, he
nailed that shit. Headed to the special right after this episode,
all the Booty and butt top bring back memories when
a brother about the complete twenty years in the Navy
educated my then rookie ass into both Navy and America

(01:47:58):
on the language of Kuk and Dick as a black person.
Cook and Dick as a black person.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
Do you mean cock?

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
He must have been cock? Yes, okay, okay, yes, yes,
cook is some completely different thing. Yes, it's really not
about black people at all. Great episode, and Jail was
one hundred about the orange skank moving as a rapist.
I voted yes because if that food feels it'll distract
from Epstein, he'll go at the matchron who has insulted
him before. A great episode Again, Dexter says loved hearing

(01:48:30):
Jail on the show. Huge respect for his charity work.
I don't use you right here, but I would be
remiss if I didn't say the joke that came into
my head while Jail was raking booties the ranking below
cupcake could have been pancakes. Yes, sorry, I'll see myself
about No, that's perfect. I talk about that all the
time in my personal life. Apia says, thanks for the
scientific more scientific, but discussion. Now understand it more. I'm

(01:48:52):
perfectly happy with what I'm sitting on. My interest is
to understand this subject more. Yeah. Sure, I assume that
you would be perfectly happy with your butt that you know,
you seem to give off perfectly happy vibes about yourself,
and so if anything, I tried and I don't want
the show to be delve into, you know, making people
feel bad about their bodies and shit, especially with a

(01:49:15):
lot of shit people just can't help. Yeah. Control Also,
like everybody's not entitled to be into everybody else and
vice versa. You know, like we got to get that
out of our head, decolonize that. And lastly, somebody into
everything dog, Yes they are, you know, And if you're
a traditional eurocentric white lady, you don't need the blackout

(01:49:39):
tips to boost your confidence. The world is doing enough
to boost it and everything is taken from it is
taking even more from other people. So it's just we
just got to live through this shitty world.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
Everybody making each other feel bad about their bodies all
the goddamn time for no reason. Classic R and B
Lover says, this is not an episode specific. As I
get to the p over the weekend, Rod, I'm listening
on Karen Hunter right now, and not to tell you
what to do, but to tell you what to do.
You and Karen should definitely have Move Indy Mafia on
the podcast. The more people who know, the more help

(01:50:10):
they might be able to receive for this phenomenal cause.
The program not only supports and validated students, but this
is how we as a community show them that people care.
You can listen to replay Serious ExM. It may also
come up on Karen Hunter's YouTube channel, but I'm not
sure but we talked to TJ from the move Indy Mafia.
These people, this is an organization that takes kids who

(01:50:34):
would not have like necessarily a family support unit or
whatever to help them move into college dorms. And they
move them in and they furnish their dorms and they
give them like monthly boxes and stuff so that they
can have supplies and all this stuff. You can sponsor, kids,
you can mentor kids you can pay for, you know,

(01:50:56):
to donate so they can help people with the moving expense. Says,
it's a really cool program. And yeah, I learned about
it from Karen Hunter and it was cool and TJ
has such great energy.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
They were doing that work.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
Yeah, and they stay busy. This they busiest time right now.
Shoe Boody says, the cake scale goes in reverse too.
Below cupcakes, we have a little Debbie, then a pancake
me sadly, then a crate. I don't know what's below crap.
I'm afraid to find out. I just says, I might
need to explanation here. Trey says cakes echo another name
for butts, types of cakes. He with butt sizes. Hopefully

(01:51:31):
that helps. He's pretty obsessive she's given. She's given the
lady who do protests too much. She's very into these
butt measurements. That's the scientists coming out a great episode,
great special, says Sean. Evey says. There are a few
reasons why j Lo isn't selling tickets and one Vegas

(01:51:52):
is having a tourism issue, and she has a large
Latino fan base. The way Ice has been on the loose,
I doubt many people want to risk being out in
public on necessary trips too. The economy is tanking. Three,
she's not a great live singer. Well, three doesn't count.
Three doesn't count because she's that's been true the whole time,
and she was fucking selling out all kinds of places.

(01:52:13):
We knew she wasn't a great live singer, so three
you can't. That's fucked up. You just wanted to shit
on her not being a great live singer, but we
knew that, So the times have changed them. First two
is a good point in first to have Alex. She
need that studio enhance it to make her sound good.
Kelly Clarkson's ex was a horrible human being, but not
only did he cheat on her with her assistance, he

(01:52:35):
stole two million dollars of her funds when he was
acting in capacity of her manager. When they got divorced,
he got a million of alimony in fifty k a
month and child support even though she won full custody.
What goddamn he sucked. As the saying goes, I'm not
gonna say he deserve to die. For god time, it
is always right. Ms. Barnes says, it's always a good
time with Jail's on the show. Also a warmer heart

(01:52:57):
to see Coondess in distress. She really looked stressed out,
look more uneven, wonder wondering if she's getting to get
back up, if she's going to get back up. That
she does not deserve and she will not in a
world where I shake my head looking at the news.
That warms my heart to see coon to suffering at
her own hands. Y'all love to see it. Agree. I agree.

(01:53:21):
I don't be feeling this like whenever if somebody get
they just desserts and they've just been fucking like fucking
around like this. I don't be feeling whatever it is
that makes people be like, man, it's so sad. I'll
be like, no, come up, is this good time? I've
been waiting. I've been looking at the clock, like, come on, Carmel,
let's go. Ghost of Zuel says, always great when Jael

(01:53:41):
is in the house. Must see TV dark now, just
says second show on the road. If someone questioned your relationship, no,
it's just funny. Funny to me. Every time I don't
know why you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
And see somebody rolle in, it was like I didn't
know y'all was married, So it's always a surprise somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
Endless five stars anytime our cousin Jail is on the podcast.
Kim Doc says, even as a Giants fan, I've never
liked sa Quan crazy, talented and congrats on the super Bowl,
but now the post win decision making him make it
has been cringey and telling this turn he's taken is
satisfying to me that I can't respect the office is

(01:54:22):
losing so many support. Christoph says, as an Eagles fan,
I would like to say thank you for your turn
teen's front office, but I agree all seasons Shenan against
have been very distasteful. Yep. Damien says, sometimes it's so
hard to listen to Jail. His trumpet pressures are just
too good. Great show is always Yeah, he is really good.

(01:54:44):
So I always struggle whenever I put the Trump impression
intro to our podcast on an episode, because it's so
good that it's like hearing Trump say, like I listen
to the Black auteps, but because he did it so good.
But I still like, y'all need to get this work.
JL is definitely the most mentioned person out here, says
Leondard Brothers. Meryl Street Kim doc says MARYL. Streep, is

(01:55:07):
falling down the steps, is just giving Jason Derulo, Matt
gal a stare tumble that we can never confirm is
real or not. It pops up every single year. If
JL is ever in your city, go check him out.
To me, he's funnier than his mainstreamers and his leagues
and miles. And he did impressions for like ten minutes straight. Yeah,
And the thing is like he's not dependent upon impressions,

(01:55:31):
which I would not have I personally, and maybe this
is just I have less integrity or whatever the fuck,
or just less self sabotaged in jail. I would one
hundred percent be like I'll get up here for an
hour and do impressions. He don't do that, Like he
doesn't here as they are germane to the bit. But
it's not just let me get up here and do like, oh,

(01:55:55):
here's my so and so impression. Here's me you know,
let me find a way to do john burn thought,
let me find a way to do this. I like
when he's on the show as a guest, because like
he's also a very willing guess and that if something
we're talking about sparks his imagination and it's like an
impression he can do, he'll try it. And when it

(01:56:18):
when it's when it clicks like that, that that's like magic.
That's like watching a magic trick for the first time.
Like the John Burn Thought thing will always be a
personal favorite because I don't think he knew he could
do it. And then we were talking, and as we
were talking, he started doing it. And then it was
so fucking good and it's only gotten you know, better
over time. And it's like, man, we got to be

(01:56:39):
a part of magic, you know, we got to get
on stage and get solid in half and our toes
are still moving, Like how are you not fucking impressed
by this? But yeah, like I said, I he's so
worth seeing it, and you know, it's everybody went to
our live show, you know, everybody with their lives.

Speaker 3 (01:57:01):
Your dad was a treat.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
Yeah, shout out to the cupcakes and cake girlies. Little
booties matter, says ms Ross. They do matter. It's not
all just the booties. Okay, something out there for everybody.
We got stuck on booties. I do love butts. Don't
get me wrong, but like.

Speaker 3 (01:57:16):
I like big butts line.

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
Jayl also talked about calves. You know it's something somebody
into everything. Yeah they are. Okay, here's somebody right now
jacking off the feet.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
It's just yeah, they are. It's a whole jummer porn.

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
Yeah, get in where you fit in? Man, I don't know,
you know, we get way too caught up on like
what people don't got uh the girl on the other
side of the road. I love Jail. I started watching
him since your live show. He really does the best
Trump impression. He always says that he's mixed. However, I
wondered with what doesn't he know that this is a
prank from life. The money he moves to Canada, no

(01:57:51):
one will show up. It's like Life sees him happy
and be like not on my watch.

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
Well, I know he's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
I know he's I believe he's Haitian and Irish, which
he talks about on his uh premium show Jail Max
pus Prime on Patreon, But he also talks it comes
up all the time in his work and stuff. But no, yeah, yeah,
so uh, you know, as Karen Hunter pointed out, it's
so funny that the person that does the best Trump

(01:58:22):
impression as a black man and nobody would necessarily know
it off of just looking. But it is such an irony,
you know, I'm sure Trump would not like that. Sidney says,
He's like, I'm not a fan of the white half
some people. Some people say they like, you know, they

(01:58:45):
I like the I thinks the white half is what's
doing funny.

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
Can we deport the quarter black of him?

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
All right, Sidney? Sidney says, I always love when Ja
l is on. Jason says, now between us Jail is
a comedic genius. So I'm making sure not to tell
him that because like marriage, I think he's at his
best chronically unhappy. I'm a bit well, no, you should
tell him, because that's what makes him even more unhappy
is to be like, you're a genius, and it's just
not working out for you then, because then it's like,

(01:59:12):
goddamn it, why not. I'm a bit frightened that he's
out here succeeding. As we know, jail jenksworthfokes ways. So
if he gets out of here getting all the things
he's worked hard and sacrificed to get, he can pretty
much we can pretty much count on another pandemic or
global recession. Oh no, well we'll see, man. I mean,

(01:59:34):
you're saying he's thriving and he's doing but he's he's
got a job, job now, a real job. He's going
into the office and helping the community. Jail got a
real job.

Speaker 4 (01:59:44):
What is so?

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
I don't know if I think that we're safe.

Speaker 3 (01:59:50):
Ain't No Yuck Yuck's trying to help them kids.

Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
Yeah, I think we're safe right now.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
If he's somehow I don't know, gets involved in like
the big I guess lawsuit against New York City cover
up for abuse of some shit, now we gotta worry.
It's like, yes, you turn on TV and he's in
front of city Hall. You know we didn't land on
Plymouth Rock or some shit, Then then we gotta be

(02:00:15):
like to be concerned. The nuke is already armed. If
he mess around and gets on Netflix, we should all
go just go blow our retirement money. We ain't making it.
I will say, I don't think jay l catches strays
on the show. Those are shots up here pretty fair well, A, yeah,
it is. Uh, they're just rubber bullets. I do empathize

(02:00:39):
with Mayor Bowser. It's always different when you're the one
in charge. It's easy for congressman and senator to talk
that talk because they're not Yeah, they're not executives. I
honestly had no issue with her taking down the Black
Lives Matter a plaza because of we're being real. That
was always just a heat check. I can't believe that
was ever up to begin with. And somehow they keep

(02:00:59):
telling us how crime is at thirty year low, all
without giving her any credit for that tough gig. That
part is very interesting. That part, you know what, that
is a fair that's a really good point. Jason, and
I tried to do my best to stay away from
the Palons because I just think the Palons reward harshness

(02:01:21):
and unfairness, and I try not to live in that
space because I don't like to go there. I like
to at least feel like I'm being fair. So even
when I truly truly dislike someone, I feel like I've
given I've been fair about this assessment. I actually don't
be knowing what's going on in DC like that. Nope,
And so I can't speak to it. Her constituents can

(02:01:43):
speak to it. But I know in general it's very
tough for black mayors to be beloved for long. It's
not that it's impossible. I think almost everybody loves a
new black mayor. Shit, when mar everybody was I got
the job. I remember people going up for but it
just and they didn't like the woman before with the
book sells or some weird shit Like, I just know
that there seems to be an expiration date on a

(02:02:07):
lot of this stuff, and with it not be in
my city, it ain't my problem. So if people want
to get her out of here and get somebody that
they think could be better, and they should do that,
and then we'll see if the next person makes them
feel better. I know Keisha Lance Bottoms, same thing our
mayor currently Violiles, who had the GOP convention here, Yes,

(02:02:28):
he did same thing. I like, I don't know what
the right answers are and I'm not even saying people
are wrong to dislike people. I just know when I
don't have enough information to stay the fuck out of it.
It's the reason that our podcast doesn't talk about Mom
Donnie in New York City a lot. I don't know.
I hope he's on the up and up. I hope

(02:02:48):
people that think he's gonna fix everything go out and
vote for him and he wins and he does everything
he says. But at the same time, if we're two
years away from y'all doing the same shit that happened
with Bill Ablasio, he was seen as the dude, and
then all of a sudden two years in he was like,
fuck Bill Deblasio. Okay, I don't live there, y'all gotta
live with the policies. I'm worried about viol ows and

(02:03:10):
what the fuck we're gonna do here in our upcoming
primaries for our city council, and shit, I'm not so
I can't get into the minutia DC politics. I just
know it is definitely a tough job, and anyone who
thinks is not it's probably just a hater that probably
don't like her and want us to be like it's
an easy job. Whyle she fuck it up. It's probably
a tough job, and especially under this fucking administration, it

(02:03:32):
can't have made it any easier that this motherfucker's in charge.
So good luck to the residents, because that's who really
gonna suffer under all of this shit. Whether she capitulates
or fights, the people are gonna be made to suffer
more than any mayor can. And I've already seen the
Twitter is kind of galvanized against her because like she

(02:03:56):
did she had to go get her kid from Martha
Vineyard for something like she cut vacation early to go
get her kid. But they didn't report it in that context.
They reported it as as the city is under national guard,
she goes to Martha's vineyard, making it sound like she
was going on vacation in the middle of the things.

(02:04:17):
So like I so anyway, it's telling because most people
are just gonna read the headline and go this bitch.
And it wasn't even attacked, if I'm not mistaken. It
wasn't even attached to a link to a story. It
was just a tweet. I was like, damn, And then
of course, thank god I follow some more nuanced and

(02:04:38):
educated people because they were like, no, that's not the
exact framing. Here's what's actually happening. And I was like,
oh shit, man, they but it. Lets you know they
really got it out for her when they started being like, hey,
this is gonna make her look bad. Printed don't put
the context in there, because normally with black people and
black women on Twitter, especially in the circles I run in,

(02:04:58):
they normally do more more then they're gonna make sure
you get your fair shot. Once they stopped doing that,
it's like they don't fuck with you when they start
putting out the hit pieces that hope that you get
fucked up. So anyway, the Paul will Trump come to
kandas Alma's rescues, yes yes, yes or no no no

(02:05:20):
five percent yes And I think that's rape, Ronin Raphael
says because something about I forget what his reasoning was,
but yeah, I don't think so. All right, let's get
to the voicemails. But let's play a song first. Let's
see how about this? Uh what was here?

Speaker 4 (02:05:43):
We go?

Speaker 1 (02:06:17):
All right, got two voicemails here, Let's see the first.

Speaker 5 (02:06:22):
Man, Hey, Roddy Karen, this is Brandon aka black Bear Travelers. Yeah,
sometimes listener first time callers always wanted to say that,
but uh, differ only one Jack Salute episode. Then, to
give you some information about like jobs report that the
numbers that have been released throughout the year and anything

(02:06:48):
I think, but then there are often updated.

Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
This is so crazy, man, This is that thing I
was talking about where you played before. Yeah. I think
it's because I can't share this screen because it would
give you guys his phone number. Give me a second,
let me just open in a different browser. Shit. Yeah,
that makes sense though, because I can't share the screen.
I think if I share the screen, you guys can
hear it, but if not, you can't. All right, so

(02:07:12):
start over again.

Speaker 5 (02:07:14):
Hey, Rod and Karen, this is Brandon aka black Bear Travelers. Yeah,
some time listener first time caller always wanted to say that,
but uh just lit into the twenty one Jack Salute
episode and to give you some information about like jobs
report that the numbers that actually release throughout the year,

(02:07:36):
and they'll give you the rough estillus as they come,
but then there are often updates that come like two
to three months later to get like things that took
longer to actually populate and maticulate just through the system,
so they always readjust the numbers within like a two

(02:07:58):
to three month period have to be original report come out.
So that's why you kind of hear that the variance
from back in June July, uh and may to now.

Speaker 1 (02:08:12):
All right, episode, appreciate it, Thank you. Like I said, y'all,
keep me, you know, keep me on point here. I'm
not trying to start or spread no conspiracy theories. So
but you know, I'm not gonna lie everything I said earlier.

Speaker 3 (02:08:27):
I'm still thinking like not that only because of who's
in charge, right, Like, is.

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
There pressure to make them higher under this administration. I
just can't imagine that there's no pressure. And I hope
people don't cave to it, you know, I don't want
to impugne that person's you know, personal sensibilities. And I hope,
I hope, I hope that the feeling I'm having is
completely not based in anything. I agree. I hope that

(02:08:52):
they're just like, this is the job and they fired
me for doing a good job. But yeah, all right,
last voicemail.

Speaker 2 (02:08:59):
I can high rod as Nil in Chicago, and I
just wanted to call in. I thought about not calling in,
but I did want to call in. That's because I
wanted to hear the Karen Be knowing music as someone
from the Deep South who grew up listening to way

(02:09:23):
too much Sucy. I just wanted to let you know
that Boocy's nickname was given to him by his parents
or grandparents. I don't remember, but the reason that he's
called Boosey is because his parents or grandparents were big
fans of Bootsy Collins. So Karen inadvertently was right once again.

(02:09:47):
He was not confused who knew the whole time?

Speaker 3 (02:09:50):
Who knew?

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
But yeah, I mean, obviously he's taking a different path
in life, so then I expected and I'm not defending
any of his but I just thought it would be
funny to hear the Karen Be knowing music because he was,
in fact right. He was named after Glocie Collins. Okay,
love you guys, Bye.

Speaker 3 (02:10:29):
I was right about something.

Speaker 1 (02:10:31):
It was right, all right. Last thing. It's hilarious the emails.
But I would play one more beat just because I
decided to put a commercials here or not because I
don't remember.

Speaker 3 (02:10:43):
Okay, uh, here we go, true.

Speaker 1 (02:11:18):
All right? That was DJ Jaffa and it was wait,
why is it that's weird. I thought I had just
uh oh, okay, all right, forget the title. What was
the title? Oh love can't be true? There we go,
all right? Comments Florida Man with all the Wives. This

(02:11:38):
is from anonymous high riding Karen. I just wanted to
comment on the Florida Man polygamous guest straight story. I'm
going to remain anonymous because we grew up in the
same small town. I happened to know him and his family. Oh,
nothing to add to the story, but I will clarify
that his eyes are absolutely real. He and his entire
family had the same green hazel eyes and lovely brown skin.

(02:12:00):
I had the biggest crush on him growing up, and
he always smelled good, which says a lot for a
high schooler. Thanks for all the wonderful shows, Anonymous. Oh
so you I guess he was out here weaponizing them eyes.

Speaker 3 (02:12:13):
It was not contacting these.

Speaker 1 (02:12:14):
White women's as straight. Yayus Jay Sizzel Wright's saying weapons,
Good morning, sir, my finest regards to the missus. So
this was for me, hey baby, to keep it brief.
I think your review of weapons was coming from a
disingenuous place. Oh shit, the premise of your argument seen
to stem from the backlashy witness on the White Man's

(02:12:35):
Twitter and not from the actual experience seeing the movie. Obviously,
I'm a bit boased because I loved the movie as
a black who loves a good scare. This has been
a great movie year anyway, So much for brief. We
can still be friends even when we disagree. Have a
great day, Julani.

Speaker 3 (02:12:52):
Have you you haven't even seen it, have you?

Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (02:12:56):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:12:57):
And the thing is, baby, he was talking about. He
was about other people, other movie critics were arguing online
about this movie, which caused him to say he didn't
want to watch it. So the opinions actually were not his.
The opinions were these other people. Some said that they
loved it. Some said that it didn't have a plot,

(02:13:17):
it didn't have a point. They also said, you know
that it just was all over the place roder literally,
because I was like, I don't think Roger watched this movie.
He hadn't watched the movie yet, Baby, just so you
know that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
And another thing I said was that people were watching
it so they could go argue about it. Yes, not
to discuss it, but the fight on the internet, and uh,
what exactly is this email?

Speaker 2 (02:13:43):
Hm?

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
Oh, it's I rest my case, Yoanna, I said, I
would like to thank you for confirming my point. I
never reviewed Weapons, and I never said it was good
or bad. I said, I witnessed people who watched the
movie preferring to go online and argue about the movie
more than praise the movie, which is exactly what you
just dead. I'm not arguing about the movie at all.
Haven't seen it and we'll probably not seeing it until
December now because of stuff like what you just wrote,

(02:14:05):
leaving a huge distaste for the discussion about the movie
in the first place. He replied, First of all, you're right.

Speaker 3 (02:14:16):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (02:14:17):
That is correct, and I am right, and I am
going to play the song as well, because why would
I not play my jam if we're gonna say, uh
that I'm right about something? Uh oh wait, it's Rod
was right? Rod is right?

Speaker 3 (02:14:34):
Yep, yep, pray yeahs pray.

Speaker 1 (02:14:40):
What was that, agatto?

Speaker 3 (02:14:41):
Yeah? It was right?

Speaker 1 (02:14:46):
You know, big pet people, Mine is people saying ship
that I didn't say. So you know, I've learned to
temper my defensiveness and triggered responses. No one needs to
get that first dose of just hot rage that isn't
called for. But as I was just like, is he
fucking with me? Like, what is the point of this?
This is definitely not what I said anyway, Goes, I

(02:15:08):
was actually coming back here to apologize. Once I listen
to the rest of the segment, it was more so
a critique on the discourse. I'll stand down. You should
still stay off that white man's Twitter, though, piece.

Speaker 3 (02:15:19):
I think I'm out last that white man. I'm gonna
tell you right now, I'm not going well.

Speaker 1 (02:15:23):
Your argument against me staying off the white man's Twitter
would work if you hadn't sent me an email that
that was just as toxic as Twitter. Like, so it
sounds like that is the platform. The problem is it
the people.

Speaker 3 (02:15:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:15:39):
No one talked to me crazy like this on Twitter
when I brought up this point. Uh, Glasses Glasses Slash
would be grateful for your advice, Hey, rid as long
time glass as where I think you will relate to
the story as I very much value your opinion, I
would be curious what you would do in this situation.
I know you hate reading long email, so I apologize
in advances is a bit worthy, Uh, but yeah, if

(02:16:00):
you have time, Okay, all right, it's a five and
a half week long sagger. So Linz Crafters ruined a
perfectly good pair of glasses during the routine adjustment, as
first at first denied responsibility and then promises a restitution
that were not forthcoming, and the interim I had to
buy an inferior backup pair of glasses to get me
through until Linz Crafters got that shit together. I won't

(02:16:21):
bore you with all the details except to say that
a lot more happened over the next four weeks, and
I was very, very displeased with the response. I was kidding.
That's when I went stalker and tracked down multiple regional
and corporate exec corporate execs, which resulted in the executive
VP of the company and the regional VP getting back
to me soon after I made contact. Oh okay, okay, cool,

(02:16:42):
that's the way that sentate started. I was like, and
then you went stalker and track what do you live?
Do you about to be? Luigi?

Speaker 3 (02:16:49):
No, you actually had to find you because a lot
of times that's.

Speaker 1 (02:16:53):
I know what they mean. Yeah, I'm saying the way
the Senate started, that's when I went stalker and tracked
down multiple regional what just said. Yeah, however, the sentence
ends do not implicate my black ass in a crime,
because I will absolutely send this to the FED.

Speaker 3 (02:17:09):
This would be evidence evidence number one.

Speaker 1 (02:17:12):
Let's just say, after several children showed up missing, I got.

Speaker 3 (02:17:15):
My glasses.

Speaker 1 (02:17:18):
After several ransom notes, but they got back to me
soon after I made contact. Mysteriously that my new glasses
arrived with their forty eight hours of this contact after
four weeks or nothing. Could be a coincidence, or it
could be these glass exactly. It's not that busy, because
I'm like, you need a VP of the glasses company.
How busy are you?

Speaker 3 (02:17:38):
You?

Speaker 1 (02:17:38):
Probably all you do is probably get emails from people
like y'all fucked up my glasses? Like, all right, I
get on it. Uh So, my last weekend, when I
went to pick up my new glasses, the first thing
I noticed was a giant scratch in the middle of
one of the lenses, and while I didn't freak out,
immediately went into an inner rage. I reached back out
to the regional VP by text to let her know
what happened. She assured me that it would be made right.

(02:17:58):
I was furious again sparing you a lot of the
minutia of the transaction, and end result is this. I
got my glass fully reimbursed seven hundred dollars back from Luxodica.
I got my backup glasses paid for by lens Craft
through three hundred dollars. They ordered and comp yet another
pair of glasses for me, with the best progressive transition lenses.
They sell, a substantial upgrade over the glasses I had.

(02:18:20):
I got those today overnighted right to my house. It
took less than a week for them to turn them around.
Funny that anyway, these glasses with insurance would be almost
a grand and they and as a fifty plus year
glasses where I'm fifty six started wearing glass on six.
I can tell you the difference between the really expensive
lenses which I had and these even more expensive lenses

(02:18:42):
is significant and immediately noticeable. Wow. It was a pain
in the ass, and I'm still agitated from having to
drive back and forth to Portland twice in the last
month to deal with it. I lived three hours south
of Portland now, so six hours total both ways. Jesus.
In the end, I'm two thousand dollars ahead of the game,
and the scratch on the second pair of glasses isn't
so bad that they're not functional. The original glasses are

(02:19:04):
trash and I can't even donate them because the lens
are so distorted from the damage that was done. So
I guess it's nothing else. I have an extra pair
of gray band frames. I shouldn't have come. It shouldn't
have come to all that. And between now and the
next time I have to get glasses, I have to
do some serious thinking about whether my forty plus year
relationship with lens Cractice is over or if they deserve

(02:19:25):
another chance after making me whole. Right now, I'm on
the fence, leaning towards moving on. What's the advice that
you need? I feel like you you did everything you got,
You got two thousand dollars worth of shit, they made
a hole, you emailed the regional people. I feel like
this is just a flex that you was able to
get a bunch of nice free glasses. My complaining come.

Speaker 3 (02:19:50):
On through caring, live up, live up to your name, Yeah,
because that's what I would have did.

Speaker 1 (02:19:55):
Is the is the advice on whether you should go back?

Speaker 3 (02:19:58):
Like? That might be the question?

Speaker 1 (02:20:00):
I mean, Nigga you know better than me. You the
one that just got the free glasses, like, teach me
your way. Since say, I don't know how to do
any of this, I would have just been home with
some scratch glasses. Like damn, I guess they messed my
glasses up this year. We'll get them in two years
when they pay for frames again on my insurance. That's it.
So congrats, I guess I don't I don't know. I

(02:20:21):
don't know. I feel like if they did what they
could to make your whole, maybe you go back. But
I don't know. You lived three hours away. You ain't
got a closer glass shop man. I got more questions
than answers. You look, you look.

Speaker 3 (02:20:33):
I'm glad you enjoyed them good glasses.

Speaker 1 (02:20:35):
Ms Mart says, Hey Karen, Hey, Rod Jails, John burnhal
impressure made me remember a night in twenty nineteen. Well,
he may or may not have sponsored an evening for
me and my friend. Good thing. My cloud photose videos
back to two thousand and five, So y'all can help
settle this. What do y'all think? JB live and in
the flesh or memorys you can show the chat the
picts two I included the story of how we went

(02:20:57):
from across the bar to Homie for the evening, and
which is readable on the off shol So. I think
she said she saw this dude and he looked like
John burn thought of her, and she thought maybe John
Bernhal had paid for they drinks and ship for one night,
and she took pictures of them.

Speaker 3 (02:21:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:21:22):
Here here's the pictures. That's him from the side and
that's him from the front. I don't think that looked
like John Burnhal, not to me. Uh, They're just like
a regular white person. I feel like John got a
different look, so, but I don't know. Maybe it look
different without makeup. I would have to hear him talk.

(02:21:43):
Did he order the drinks? Like? Here's what's he doing?
You think you want some? Marks said like that long
story short. He was across the bar, occasionally looking over it,
then longer than a glance. I thought I might know him,
and did ahead emotion for him to come to our side.

(02:22:05):
He did, and the bartend to mood all the stuff.
But before all of this, when I told my friend
miss A, he looked like John, we checked online for
Rizy being towed to found nothing. We were an eye
collection him me and my white mid the later age
friend swapping stories, interest, et cetera. He's a good time,
but didn't give John as his name, and we didn't
ask his professional because that's rude. Playing guitar, living out

(02:22:25):
west and visiting local family where he was raised wasn't
definitive either way. He paid the bill with cash atm
fresh hundred dollar bills, uh, something common for folks around here.
We all left together, exchanging goodbyes, and he disappeared. I
don't think it's John bernth All, but I don't know.
You never know. I'm famous. I famously do not know
these white well mostly white women. I can't tell a

(02:22:46):
part that are famous white women. But that's more like
Hollywood's fault, not mine. Anyway. I don't have anything to
add this other than that to me, he don't look
like John Birthall. What a week. So let's say it's
hoigh ride and care before going to any politics to
get mad. I've random question for your parents and their garden.

(02:23:06):
Have they encounter new issues that they think are related
to climate change? The patterns being different. I'm in the
NORTHWESTEDPA and do raised beds in my backyard, and things
are definitely different. I wonder if people who are more
master gardeners like it sounds like your parents are adjusting
and how to get and spread that knowledge. It feels
like good community building experience. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:23:26):
Yeah, I don't know. They don't do well. Some of
that stuff is raped, most of this stuff is in
the ground.

Speaker 1 (02:23:31):
I mean, I'm sure there's effects, but I'm just saying
I don't know. They have to answer that.

Speaker 3 (02:23:35):
Yeah, they would have to answer.

Speaker 1 (02:23:36):
That episode thirty one forty? Boy, did I agree with
what you're saying about accountability for the missing disinformation that
not just entertainers, but anyone in the position of authority.
One thing I think the black community has to take
it to account is for us to do better. How
we do How do we interpersonally let people know that
their hot taste cause harm. Their disengagement is directly correlated
to not voting or voting for that evil man. It's

(02:23:58):
not just the left and white people have a hard
time admitting they were wrong. The only black man I've
seen do it well recently is DL Hughley, and I
appreciate it. His apology was as loud as the public
as his foolishness, even recently I saw him publicly apologize
the harm he did to ask himself why he did that.
I know, last summer I went outside of my comfort
zone and really tried to talk to people both privately

(02:24:19):
and volunteering for the campaign, to really try to dispel
the misinformation and frankly, the made up reasons they would
tell you when I could see the text bubble above
their heads that said, oh, she's black and a woman
is the real reason the DC situation's both scary and
not knew. One thing I have not seen mentioned much
is that states have always a mass police, swat military

(02:24:39):
to address what they feel like out of pocket black people,
even in the modern era after Mike Brown, Freddy Gray, etc.
So it's interesting that why see is black people are
pissed but not surprised and navigating as we have done
had to before, why it's gotten to this point and
why white people aren't bringing the revolutionists?

Speaker 5 (02:24:59):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:25:00):
That's funny is they collectively have a reaction to seeing
the state punished and limit black people as normal, and
they justify it must be a reason. Yeah, but even
if it was white people, they're not gonna bring the revolution.
Let me tell you, all right, Now, if you're waiting
on these white folks to live up to their promise
of the liberal weaponized revolution where they fight back against
the authoritarian, you're gonna just die holding your breath because

(02:25:22):
these motherfuckers are not coming. They're not who they think
they are, right, This is what they say to justify
not being politically involved and doing this easiest fucking thing
on the earth, which is going to fucking vote, especially
for them who aren't having their vote suppressed. They aren't
having their voter ID checked and all this type of shit.
They're not having the rules changing their local districts to

(02:25:44):
where they have to stand in hours long lines to vote,
and shit, they have it. The mode is on fucking
rookie mode for them, and they're the ones like, no,
we gonna go get guns and run up on these tanks.
That's what will happen if they keep coming cracking down.
It's like they're not It wouldn't matter if they cracked
down on the whitest white town in America. These motherfuckers

(02:26:05):
are not gonna get off their couches, right. It's likely
the text bubblah bu of their heads also reads these
people couldn't be mean, so here we are as they
are going to expand Yeah, I just don't think. I mean, look,
maybe there's some black people that's expect the white folks
to be moved by this DC crackdown thing. I don't think.

(02:26:27):
I can't imagine who them black folks are that think
white folks is like, this isn't even at gotcha to me.
I'm like, yeah, the white folks would never come to
save the DC from the military. It's likely my city
is on the list with a black woman mayor and
our governor is underwhelming, but we would have to deal
with it when it happens here. Yeah, what's interesting about

(02:26:48):
the military thing is it's so obvious. It's such an obvious, uh,
psychological attack, because like we had a person get shot
by police here and then there was like an uprising

(02:27:12):
or the conflict with the police on North Charlotte, and uh,
suddenly they brought in like National Guard for a week
or two or something. I forget how long they were here,
but I remember driving down town and you just see
like a fucking soldier on the corner, two soldiers just
standing around doing shit like and they're not there's no

(02:27:34):
reason for them to do anything. They they didn't sign
up for the National Guard so they could police America.
They don't. They're not cops. They don't want to kill
a US citizen more than likely, right, And so it's
it was more psychological to be like, damn, they got
a tank on fucking Fourth Street. That's what it was.

(02:27:56):
It wasn't the I never felt truly in danger, like
they're gonna start running up in people's cribs and doing
stuff to us. It was more like a it was
a statement from the Trump administration or whoever was in
charge the city or the government. It was like a
statement like you know, like, hey, this is our shit

(02:28:17):
that you don't really own this shit. We tell you
what to do, don't don't fuck around. You're gonna find out.
So I don't know if we're truly at an inflection
point where it's like I forget what what college that was,
but during Vietnam where they shot up some kids on
campus that were protesters, we might get there. We might

(02:28:38):
get there. I don't know if this is it yet though,
But either way, it's just the psychological part of it.
It's just fucking unrelenting because it's just thinking about this
as a black person, and then they want you thinking
about this, even if it doesn't really affect your day
to day, meaning you should be able to still go
to work like normal people that live there. Will probably

(02:29:03):
not truly have a life changing interaction in any way
with these people. But it's something that's going on the
subway in New York and it's fucking guys with long guns,
and you're just like, I don't know, it's something, right,
it's something am I am. I gonna not take the subway,
not only take the subway. I don't expect the guy

(02:29:23):
to just fucking shoot me for taking the subway. But
there's an implication there, and there's a threat there that
doesn't need, that's not needed. There's some sort of implication
of like, we will impose order upon you anyway. I'm sorry,
I'm glad that for what Governor Dinner Party is doing.

(02:29:45):
I'm annoyed at all the people online that have been
demanding a response and then doing what they did to
commonin Biden. Damn it with fate praise. This is good, good,
this is good. Be he's horrible. As soon as he
messes up, we're dropping him, et cetera. Yeah, they're gonna
do that to Gayven Newson at some point. I'm not
getting excited about it either way. Like I said, I

(02:30:05):
think the most important thing I can say about him
and everybody whoever the Democratic Party puts forward, I will
vote for for president because I definitely understand that the
Republican Party is not even trying at this point. And yeah,
and there's no misgiving on the left that I can

(02:30:25):
have that I truly could not get over to avoid
more of what we're going through right now.

Speaker 3 (02:30:32):
So I agreed.

Speaker 1 (02:30:34):
So I don't want to and hopefully I can keep
up this mentality because I don't want to spend the
next four years nitpicking and banging on these candidates. I
truly don't.

Speaker 3 (02:30:42):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:30:43):
I would like to be the example that I'm talking
about when I'm like, yo, we gotta like stop fucking
nit picking these fucking candidates to death, fucking up all
their good will, and then being like why did they lose?
I mean, we only spent four years saying how they're
not perfect, how.

Speaker 3 (02:31:01):
Did they lose?

Speaker 1 (02:31:02):
Wow, that's crazy. I don't want to be part of
the problem. So and look, you guys are gonna have
your grites with each one of these people. You feel
free to write up here if you want to defend
them or go in and I guess that's fine, but
I just I don't want to be this person unless
that's just somebody so egregious or something, or we get
to the prime. I think in the primaries, you can

(02:31:23):
be a little picky if you want to. That's a
Primaries up for it. But we're not. We're so far
away from that, right, Like, I just hope Buddy can
do the stuff he's saying he doing because I just
and it's not for me. I feel like if it's
more for him that I'm saying, I hope he can
deliver him and Hawkul or whatever. Like, you gonna need

(02:31:44):
to deliver on these problems because people aren't. They're looking
at y'all for hope and you're giving them hope. And
if you come back and go guys, actually, we looked
at it and the redistricting thing, it wouldn't work. We
wouldn't get enough seats. These people are going to be weird,
not even weirdly, they're gonna be very intensely pissed. Right,
It's like, what the fuck you said? Now? Texas did

(02:32:06):
what they did and then y'all didn't do shit. That's
what they're gonna say. So I just hope they're not
tweeting and talking for Twitter. I hope they're actually gonna
do it. If they're gonna do it, I.

Speaker 3 (02:32:14):
One hundred agreed and agree, and I think for me,
I dismissed a lot of the complainers. Uh. The biggest
reason why I dismissed it is because when Joe Biden
ran uh to get elected, there was every candidate underneath

(02:32:40):
the rainbow, every fucking thing that y'all claimed y'all wanted.
There was the black woman, there was the gays, like
like everything that y'all wanted underneath the goddamn son ran.
You talked yourself out of everything and ended up getting
an old white man, ended up getting pissed, and then
talk about why is it they're any diversity. The time

(02:33:01):
for the diversity was when you had all these open candidates.
You can't look me in my eye and tell me
there's something wrong with the gays, but we're going to
gay president. There's something wrong with the black women, but
we're going to black woman president. There's something wrong with this,
there's something wrong with that, But you fucking nick picked
every goddamn body. You y'all did this, not me, y'alldmasses,

(02:33:23):
because if it Because the thing is, you're lying to
me because a lot of y'all didn't vote. Because if
you voted, because if the end, let you let the
internet tell me Joe Biden shouldn't have won. That's what
the internet told me. Roger's mom and daddy said it's
gonna be goddamn Joe Biden. So y'all, niggas don't know
what y'all are talking about. These are facts, so so
and so my opinion when it comes to this, just

(02:33:45):
get me to the point where a place where it's
time to fucking vote. Everything else prior to that, you're
wasting my time. You're arguing for argument sakes. I think
a lot of people this is fucking sports to them.
This is they jam. They love the political time of
the year. They love the put like they pump palms.
They left the tweet on line, they left like a
lot of people. Really and I've realized this, I don't care,

(02:34:05):
but a lot of people. They got to have the charades,
they got to have the party, they got to have
a fan fear. They they like like that is they
motherfucking gym and I fucking get it. I don't care.
What matters to me is when it's time to vote.
That's what matters to me. Everything else before that is
wasting my mother fucking time. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (02:34:27):
Like everyone, get a fucking grip. Eyes on the larger goal,
we are trying to stop this cancer from growing and
hopefully one day shrink. It's so small it's hardly noticeable.
At least try to re establish or restabilize when it's
when it was smaller. Those cancer cells have been there
since the beginning. We never had it exists without them,
and never will have future where they don't exist. Either
trying to ignore it and being denow or only let

(02:34:50):
it explode and trying to reason what it doesn't work.
You have to treat it anyway. Take care. Here's a
picture from one of my garden beds.

Speaker 2 (02:34:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:34:59):
The what I'll say to that is, I'm I would
not even participate in going back and forth about Gavin
Newsom with anybody right now. I just don't think it's
worth it. He may or may not even be an
issue in a two. He has three years to go
to even be whatever he thinks he wants to be.

(02:35:22):
And if we've seen anything in this political landscape, it
is fraught with twisting turns and we really do not
know who or what is going to pop up. So
I just wouldn't really, like, I'm not gonna spend time
arguing with people that love him or hate him, like
good luck to him and see him in four years
if he's able to do it. If more, you know,

(02:35:45):
like there's no guarantee. So that's what I would do. Man,
I would not like I That's the way I put
it this way. That's where I'm at in my life
right now. None of this shit is bothering me. You know,
people because because they do shit like beg Obama to
speak and then Obama says something, they get mad at
how he said it, what he said, why he said it.

(02:36:06):
Some of the stuff. You just gotta be like, yeah,
y'all are unhappy, and uh, you know, good luck with that. Look,
I hope you figure it out when it's time, by
the time it's time to vote, because you know, and
there's gonna be midterms, is gonna be off cycle relations.
There's a bunch of shit happening right now. I gotta
we got a local primary stuff coming up now, Like
I'm yeah. The people that still think it's like the

(02:36:30):
national part is like what Karen said, it's like sports
for them or something, because to me, the national who's
the next Democratic presidential candidate thing is so far in
the future. I can't imagine going back and forth about
that ship right now. That's that's to me crazy, And
so I can't get mad about it because it's like whatever,
if you vote for him, find if you don't, who cares?

Speaker 3 (02:36:52):
Right, and and and the thing is, you know, with
all that vote, vote, like you know, people talk, but vote,
and the votes is the thing that that matters to me.
And if your candidate don't get enough votes, that's the end.
Like not trying funny. I don't want to hear none
of this, Brandon Sanders, they stoke, no bitch, nobody stole shit.
You're fucking lost, and that it was time to support

(02:37:12):
whoever the other candidate is. But also the people who
support a candidate, their candidate don't win all of a sudden,
they want to defect from the fucking team. I have
a problem with that too, Bitch. You're part of the
problem too. It don't matter. We're all on the same team.
That's the point. I'm having the openness so that we
can narrow it down, all.

Speaker 1 (02:37:29):
Right, y'all. With that note, that's it. We'll be back tomorrow.
Brandon Collins will be the Guessie starting a new show
called What the Film. Will be talking to him about that.
Yeah and yeah, until next time, I love you, I
love you too, Fly

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