3147: The Ma Ma Matrix

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Uh.

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Thank you, Yes, I like to live in reality, I
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Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, And I appreciate that because I know it's a
particular hang up and stickler for me. It's definitely a thing.
I'm sure when I'm a guest on other shows sometimes
when people are guessed on here, even when Karen's talking it,
can you know? To me in my own head, I'm like,
this might be annoying, but I have to make sure
that we're grounded on things that are actually happening, and

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when we are alluding to things that may or may
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at least notify No, yeah, we at least note that
in our commentary. It's not that we're human. We all
speculate on information we don't have agreed and we all
have conspiracies and things we believe. But I just think
it's so important right now to be acknowledging that because

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it seems like to me, the world part of the
big reason the world is the way it is and
it's so messed up, is that people have just been
told that it's okay to have like your alternative facts
and have like alternative reality, and if you can find
enough people that agree with with you, that's fine, and

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to me, I'm like, I demand a higher standard than
just that. And it's okay for us to feel that way.
We all have things like that, But I just would
like for us to needs acknowledge that that's what's happening,
rather than to just be like, well, that's what happened.
That's how I feel. Who gives an f if it's
true or not. All right, let's get into the comments

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on the episodes. Thank you for the five star reviews.
Everybody uh three one, four, three, learn, laugh, Love. We
got nine comments on this episode. It was Appia who's
started us off. I admit Roder superior to me with
tolerating notifications with me. When an app asked me if

(07:45):
they can send me notification, I ask, are you an
email or WhatsApp? No? Nice? Try stay silent forever. Yeah,
you know, some people could take it, some people can't.
You know, it's all good. My therapist found this is
a good idea and was even impressed you can do it. Wow.
So maybe it's me who is impressive. But I would
never claim such thing. I don't think it's that impressive.
I think a lot of people turn off notification for apps.

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I mean that's nothing to people.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
But something to give me summaries where it's not like
peeing me consistently.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, Like I mean unless your unless your therapist was
impressed by the fact that you know how to turn
off the notifications, which you know that maybe therapist is
not that technologically, uh, you know whatever, Like maybe she's like, wow,
you can turn off app notifications. I'm just supporting what
other educated professionals are saying. In fairness, one, that's your pain.

(08:33):
That your pain. Of course, we have in Germany our
right wing party, the a f D party, the party
Elon campaign for and said was our only hope if
the goal is to back to Nazi's time, for sure. Yeah, man,
it's crazy. Like I think a lot of times I
look at Germany as like a case of a country
that tried to do things well I guess was forced to,

(08:56):
but whatever, Like they did things right on the rebuild,
which is we're anti this Nazi bullshit, we're not letting
it creep back. And then you know, in the long
form view of history, it's crazy because those people never
truly go away, right, so they're.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Just not as vocal. They don't disappear, and they don't die.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
So you have a political party that you know everyone
was scared would take power. But I don't know that
that was. I don't know how realistic that was because
I don't live there, so I don't know how much
of a threat y'all truly felt you were under and
what percentage of the vote they got and all that
type of stuff. But just the fact that the mere
existence of people that are like, no, the white the right,
the Nazi shit was right is crazy, you know, you

(09:39):
just and if you look at our history books and
you look at the stories we tell about our countries
and the narratives, you would think that would be impossible,
almost like like if you just look at the stories
of what we like, no, And then same way with
racism in America, and then we had the Civil Rights Acting,
then we elected Barack Obama. We were kicking racist ass

(10:00):
old time. It's like, well, then why is Trump back? Right?
It's like, well, clearly this is not true. We just
tell ourselves a story to make ourselves feel better. But
it's if we're not constantly fighting against this shit, it
will rise again. I'm just says that I'm now in
peace with my body. Isn't because the society gave me
so much confidence. It told me that I'm great. In
my young formative years, there was always the message that

(10:21):
I'm not thin enough. In the nineties, everybody bigger than
Kate Mossel was more or less considered too fat. Now
suffered from Bolivia for some years now. Therapy, self acceptance,
yoga and getting older gave me lots of peace, no doubt.
You know, everybody finds that path on their own. You know,
I think a lot of us are seeking that type
of path. When I brought up the privilege thought, I

(10:41):
wasn't saying it was easy. I was saying, think about
how difficult it is for you. Because we were talking
about asses, and you know, what ass do people think
is the best and all this shit, And I'm like, well,
white women's asses have this like backing because a year
century beauty standards that people acknowledge throughout the world that

(11:03):
whatever version of body negativity you're experiencing, it's still a
level of privilege compared to some black women out there
who they've decided that her body is, you know, because
of a whole bunch of different reasons why her body's
fucked up or wrong. Not to mention racism, hier ability, desirability, marriage,
all this shit. So I'm saying, even in this case,

(11:24):
you've had it hard, and that's not even the hardest
level of hard, like the hardest level of the game. Yeah,
just like I'm a man, I'm a black man, but
like I'm still a man. I still get a lot
of male privilege. I embody a lot of stuff. I
present straight, meaning like I am straight, but like no
one's questioning if I'm straight, so I don't have to

(11:44):
deal with a lot of homophobia stuff. I'm playing this
game and it's difficult, but there are people that got
it even harder than me, right, And I feel like
that's kind of where we all are. So it's almost
like if it if you were dealing with those struggles
that whole time, I know other people was going through it. No,

(12:06):
nobody's getting out clean because the lot that they tell
us is, you know, a person like Afia, you're supposed
to have it the easiest. You're supposed to be going
through life feeling all the privilege and all the benefits
of you know, what it is to be a woman
in white in the world, in the world, And it's
not true. It's all fucking line, Like everybody's going through something,

(12:27):
everybody's dealing with some shit internally, and nobody gets off
easy in this whole thing, right, B Star eighty eight says,
So that listener that says and Samira pretty much harasses
employees that don't have her size is so false. She
has never pointed a camera and the employees face and
berated them. So Samira is the woman that it's so

(12:49):
ironic because this whole exchange is about to prove my point.
But Samira is the woman who called out Cardi B.
Because Cardi B was making jokes about her fans buying
up all the three XL shirts. Something. She was like,
y'all fat, ha ha is just an inside joke with
me and my fans. Cardi B, who is not fat,
is like, I'm laughing at y'all being fat. But it's

(13:09):
cool because we're all friends and fans here. And I
can see how Cardi B would think that. I think
she's hyper online and always and she's always been quote
unquote politically incorrect and got pats on the back for
any time that she was saying something positive. So like,
but and I've always had an issue with that cause
I think a lot of that comes from lowered expectations

(13:31):
of people like Cardi B Like, I always thought it
was weird when people would be and you know, she
knows something about politics. I'm like, I don't understand, what
is it because her actually you don't think she's smart.
People know stuff about politics. It's not like it's not
like she's exhibiting some level of like political wonkiness where
we're like, holy shit, I you know, I looked up

(13:52):
she was on CNN doing it like she just was
like not ignorant about politics, and people Oh my god.
See you didn't think people from the Bronx could or whatever.
So okay, cool. So I always thought that was a
little overstated, because of course, whenever she does eventually say
something that people do disagree with politically, it comes down
into like a bunch of stereotypes about how we shouldn't

(14:15):
be listening in the first place. She's not that smart
no more. She just a celebrity. She's just chasing clout Like,
so like, maybe don't put all the stock in on
the way up, then you don't have to tear her
down on the way out, right. I never put the
stock in on the way up. So I don't feel
like I need to tear her down because she said
some shit that I didn't agree with. It's like, whatever,
that's her opinion, Okay, all right, So all that to say,

(14:37):
CARTI also, you know, has spoken out against like colorism
sometimes and this, that and the other. She's apologized when
she's fucked up, blah blah blah. So you would think
maybe a person calling her out for like, yo, what
you said was hurt for the fat people might be
a thing that would make her go, Okay, you know what,
I hear you. I've had people say shit about my
body and stuff and I don't like it. And uh,

(14:58):
I appreciate you pulling on to that. I'm not gonna
do it again, and I apologize. But instead she kind
of doubled down and was like, bitch, you need to
get over it. It's just a joke or whatever. You know,
I'm not apologizing. Okay, her choice. Y'all decide if you
support her or not. Right, But I remember saying when
this woman was calling her out and then being like
I need to take my own internet break and all

(15:18):
this shit. I was like, I don't even know anything
about this woman, but I guarantee you as people who
don't like her too, And because anybody who gives their opinion,
including me and Karen, on all kinds of events, there's
a motherfucker out there that don't think you got it
right that just don't agree with you. That thein't whatever
you're saying, Like, whatever you're doing, you're not doing it

(15:40):
the right way. I don't know what the right way is,
but it ain't. It ain't what I'm doing right.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
It ain't whatever I'm doing, even though they're not willing
to do it themselves, I'm not doing it right. Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
But I didn't say anything negative about the woman, of course,
other than just that's probably there's probably a bunch of
people that don't like her too. And it's just it's
a never ending cycle on the internet. People are always
mad about somebody else. Us is shit. This just is
what it is, any reed, So Eve right saying it
goes yeah, I don't like the way she be doing
her shit, and I'm like, okay, you know I didn't

(16:10):
go check it out myself. I just like, if you
say so, I don't. My point I was making wasn't
specifically about this woman.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
It was just the general, the genuine gist of if
you put the opinions out there, if you say things,
if you're well known, somebody is not going to like
what you say or what you do.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, that's the economy of the internet, you know. And
then also like there's also this other thing that happened,
specially with these influencers that blow up off these causes,
there's always somebody that's not blowing up, who's mad that
they're blowing up. But then they couch it in like
activist speak, to be like, no, see what she did.
What she didn't understand this thing? It's like, Okay, I
just happen to know neither here nor there. You have

(16:49):
way less followers than her, and you talk about the
same shit. So are you mad that people aren't watching
your shit or not? That's just it's part of the
question that I have. It doesn't mean it's the whole question,
but but sometimes it be like that they do anyway,
I've been following her for a while now and never
seeing her do that. Now she does ask them to
come their ads in the store, say plus size, but

(17:11):
the size top at a certain size, ask if they
carry plus size on their website, or ask the managers
why the plus sizes are tucked away in the back
versus the rest of the clothes that are displayed in
the front. I think that listener just doesn't like Samra
want inclusion and feel like fat people should just be
happy with what they got, just like the people in

(17:31):
some Mirra comments harassing her to lose weight, find another
make your own clothes that just simply want her to
shut up because she always complaining. The comments are disgusted.
These are a couple links to her videos of what
her content actually looks like, so you guys can see
what it's about stead of going off for what someone
else said. Thank you, I'm not clicking on it. Once again,
the point of what I was saying was not specifically
about this woman. If that is the content that you

(17:54):
want to consume, find, if that's who you support, find
This is not about that here. I didn't know this
is gonna turn to a jury try for sa mirror
Eve said, Hi, I'm that listener, So Eve responded, I
used to follow Samira too, and stop following because of
the tactics which I described in my previous comment. I
haven't followed her in a very long time, nor seen
any of video since is it possible my recollection isn't accurate.

(18:17):
That's possible. It's also possible she has since the leaded
some of those videos. That's also possible. So yeah, we'll
never know if maybe that happened a long time ago
and then she deleted it, maybe it never happened and
ev missing remembered it. But how you inferred that. I
want fat people to just shut up and be happy
with that with what they get is a stretch, that's
your own projection. That is so. So that is key

(18:41):
because this is one of the reasons I don't really
follow influencers like this in general. And it's not that
I think they're bad people are doing the wrong thing.
I just truly think it is a technique that isn't working.
I think we've had fifteen years or so of social
media with people doing this. I don't think we're seeing progress.

(19:01):
I think we're seeing a lot of people's mental health
get fucked with by being in the center of the
cyclone of internet rage of people people coming at you
about your body and fucking you up mentally and talking
about you, and people that support you as well. But
then you just become like an avatar for the fight
that's happening, and it's not necessarily about you anymore.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Right, it's whatever the calls is for today.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
And while everyone can claim that they're built for the
struggle and it's fine, I watch all these people go
through a bunch of mental health shit. Just they got
to get off the internet, they got to delete their account,
they got to take a break. They're crying, they got
you know, their online And it's okay for other people
to absorb that if they want to. I personally, as
an impath, I do not like absorbing constant content of

(19:47):
people that are either under fire or firing up everybody else.
And for those that can and do like that, I
have no problem with that. I think everyone has to
pick their own ala carte, like what they can handle.
You know, I can handle notifications on my phone ipia can't.
You know, it's all built different.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
We are so all of that to say.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
When you are in it, which it kind of feels
like that first commenter is kind of like in the fray,
Like you're seeing the comment section, you're seeing her content,
you're seeing what she's pushing back on. It does kind
of get to a point where anybody that says, yeah,
I don't really like the way this person gets down,
it becomes oh, so you must think.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Because they've been arguing with me right now.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Eve's written up here many times about many different things.
I don't think there's a I don't think and I
could be wrong. I don't think there's a reason to
take that one comment and go into oh so you
just won't fat people to shut up? Right, But that,
to me becomes the environment of this specific type of
influencer who's always in like the struggle or fighting for

(20:53):
the struggle. Because there's so many bad faith actors and
so many people that say solation fucked up stuff about
them they do. It's almost like you have to skip
the shortcut of good faith, right, you have to skip
like you have to skip past like someone saying like, yeah,
I don't even like the way they get down. It's
not that I'm against her calls. Blahlah blah nah, you

(21:13):
against her calls. You really just hate fat people like
it just kind of happens, and I'm trying to avoid
that in my own life. So I just haven't been
I try not to be up on folks like this,
you know, because I know that part of their job
making content. And it's unfortunate, but it's true, and it
doesn't mean these things don't exist. But part of it
is that they always have to be finding something wrong. Now,

(21:36):
there's always something wrong somewhere. That doesn't mean that these
things don't exist, but like, your part of your job
is to find what is wrong, exacerbate what is wrong,
point the spotlight on what is wrong and it and
to me, I just I personally don't get down like that.
And it's not just about you know, I'm a fat person,

(21:57):
but it's not just about way. It's almost anything. Like
I'm not even really I don't follow the pages that
are just constantly telling me, look what racist thing happened today. Nope,
you know, I don't like, I don't follow the pages
look at this fight like it's just for me. It's
just not a healthy thing. And so that's why I
mostly avoid it. But but yeah, back to your comment. Sorry, uh,

(22:18):
she Eve goes to say, but how you inferred that
I want fat people to shut up and be happy?
That's a stretch. That's your own projection. I also said
her cause was righteous, but at the end of the day,
she's a content creator. Have some armies that would make
you feel better. They have the means. Now you do
have to realize that a person that constantly constantly pushes
Rby's it's probably not body positive. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'm just kidding, Eavy, that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I started following Samara around be star replies. I started
following started following Samar around the end of last year.
From what I've seen her go in the store, she's
never shown the employee's face, but always hers when she's
not showing the close she always came off sweet and enjoyable.
I don't know how long ago you were following her,
but maybe she was doing that when you was following her.
I say that about my projection because I've seen a
lot of hate comes towards her, just from the experience

(23:06):
how hard it is to find clothes people who are overweight.
Even just by her explaining the difference between double triple
excel versus two Excel, three X, t et cetera, a
different cuts, she was getting harassed seeing bigger women, especially
black women at a fact, get so much hate online
for making content, even if it's not about body image.
You see in the comments, it's about their way because
fat phobia is so ingrained in society that people don't
take it as a big deal. So yeah, I figured,

(23:28):
since you said she goes into stores harassing employees and
filming them, when I myself never seen that, I figured
you was one of the ones that just didn't want
to hear what she had to say about how this
world doesn't appreciate bigger people or their voices. I was
in the shower when I was hearing this, though. That's
not excuse but my fault, and I'll keep I'll let
you keep the RVs, so you know, not fucking with
rv C. That was a peace offering, but I respect

(23:51):
the integrity B Star. I also would not have accepted
that peace offer. But yeah, I mean, I think that's
interesting too in that even into the behavior that you described,
I personally think that that's kind of weird to go
into a store and be like, I'm not gonna put
your face on camera, but I'm gonna ask the person

(24:12):
behind the desk, even the manager of the store, about
the closed placeman and all that stuff. I personally, as
a fat person, as a person that gotta go look
for the three X and all that type of shit.
I personally feel like that's a weird thing to do,
and and it's good. I guess it's good content. And

(24:32):
maybe you're hoping that it embarrasses or puts on notice
the bigger higher ups. But even just that's so intrusive
to me in my opinion, just for me, that's so
intrusive to me to pull out my phone and start
recording in a store, like, yo, person behind the register,
what's going on with these clothes?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Because I just know those people don't make the decision
of how the power, and there's nothing they're gonna be
able to say that's gonna offset this there, not even
the person I should be talking.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
To, because they're not the decision makers.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, like, and I'm more than likely they're just they're
gonna say something inarticulate or stupid or something I've heard
a million times before, but they're not gonna have the answers.
The same way that elf when I worked at McDonald's
as a teenager, if someone with a busting there with
a camera phone to be like, how come you guys
don't have gluten free such as solf? Okay, I don't

(25:25):
know you know, I guess you're right, you know, like,
what do we what do you want me to do?
I'm making seven fifty or whatever. So I can see
how that, Once again I haven't watched the content, but
I can see how people would take that kind of
content as like, well, this is not necessarily helping anything,
but there's gonna be other people that will say it's
helping everything. I don't, you know, I don't have the answers.

(25:46):
I just know that over the last fifteen years of
people making this kind of content, I haven't seen this progress.
I haven't seen these brands embracing anything. And also, I
think this is my personal dogma, looking for these capitalistic
enterprises to have some sort of inclusive, you know, attitude

(26:06):
is just it's not gonna happen for the most part,
because their values are just mostly based off of greed,
and so they will include fat people when they think
it is profitable or good pr yes, and then they're
gonna go right back. And if they do that, they
do the same thing with every other cause, gay people,
black people, it's.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
All fused in and out. It's never consistent.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, these companies aren't people. The people that work at
them do not have personal values and stock and stake
in them. They're not their names on the front, right,
and they never really cared about any of us. And
then they know that there's whether it's their personal hang
ups or even just their marketing and brand wise, they

(26:48):
know the images they want to protect and promote. And
I don't think it's a coincidence. And so maybe in
that way, I've actually given up on this fight of like,
I don't think there's gonna be progressed. I don't think
it's capable progress. I think we're just gonna be mad
every single time we walk in the American Eagle. So
I just stopped walking in there. Evie says, it's all good.

(27:09):
I agree that fat phobia is indeed prevalent in this society.
I've been fat most of my life, and I noticed
the difference in how I was treated when I was
fat versus when I lost weight. Everyone deserves to be
treated with dignity, just like everyone deserves to enjoy delicious
cheddar and roast beef sandwich from Arby's. I was getting
too much too much promotion today, Eve said, when you
were talking about the cart competition in Germany, I think

(27:30):
you were trying to quote the bowler who said, who
do you think you are?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I am.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
That's one of my favorite quotes. Thank you, Yeah, I
like that white dude.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
He did that fist pump.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
That's the one, Sean says. Dislocating my arm. When teaching preschool,
is involved in active learning activity where students were learning
verbs by moving their bodies while I demonstrated, I said
good night. Everyone jumps on the ground as quick as
they can to sleep, and there was a clear plastic
folder on the floor that another instructor had left. My
left hand landed right on the folder, slid out in
my armschip my shoulder dislocated. I finished the activity, excuse myself,

(28:04):
reset my shoulder in the hallway, and finished class. Okay,
fucking murtog or Rigs or whatever the fuck. Don't hit
my students unless I'm teaching martial arts. But sometimes they
hit each other. The fastest way to teach a feisty
rambunctionus class how to say mosquito is to tell them, hey,
don't hit each other. If you do, just say mosquito
and then explain what a mosquito is. Instantaneous learning. I

(28:26):
don't know what that means because I don't teach kids,
but I mean soon, You're right. Sean says, the way
that people interact with the Internet has changed so much
in the last three decades. In the nineties, you will
go to the university computer lab and they had the
fast Internet and start downloading one image, write a ten
page paper on the importance of Coonian Parrot, Counian paradigm, ships,
and modern signs in the Internet age. Go get a coffee,

(28:46):
Wait another five minutes and you could finally see the
image you started downloading or so long ago. Right now,
if you want a two second buffer while streaming a
movie at four K is assigned that the Internet isn't
working properly. That's true. If you do get that, you're like, damn,
why is this shit taking too long? Yes?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, that buffer be killing me. I am I am huh,
I'm like the fuck is this? What is this a DVD?
I get mad.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
My students were all born after y two K. I
have no idea how fragile the systems were. In addition,
they were gone from We've gone from using no internet
citations and research papers to having an earl required for
research article citations. AOL showed us that Internet could be horrendous.
Sesspool bringing out the worst man intil Elon's Twitter show.

(29:31):
That could get so much worse. All right, let's check
the comments on YouTube. We have nine comments there as well.
Let's see what we got. Provocative AF says, what up, family,
Thanks for another great show. As a matter of fact,
thanks for the extra episodes this week. I really didn't
do us today. When I got the alert about the shops.
Happy AF, I poured a couple of shots, puffed my

(29:51):
chocolate Todd vape and watch y'all like Saint Louis Cardinals game,
Love y'all. Thanks, I fuck with y'all. Salute, Thanks buddy,
Thank you, Lee said, as y'all never disappoint Thank you.
David says, cute to music. Rob was right. Rob was right.
I appreciate your viewpoint on Gavin and somewhere outside of
California's not a bad governor. I appreciate his redistricted moves,

(30:13):
but he's given in way too much when it comes
to utility companies. And let's not forget Supreme Court case
that made homelessness illegal. Yeah, and like, look, man, I
ain't gonna I'm not pissing on nobody party, have a
good time. And if I'm right, which I don't want
to be, but if I'm right, we can come back

(30:35):
to this in a second. Because I'm not saying this.
I'm saying this is a very fragile fraud alliance, and
that the amount of time that Gavin Newsom needs to
capture the attention and the attitude and the imagination of
the American progressive, liberal, middle of the road non MAGA

(31:01):
all these groups is it is August twenty third, twenty
twenty five. What we are saying is he need to
keep this up until November twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Eight, which is a long time.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, I know y'all feel good today, right, But I've
been through this with so many people part of my
cynicism or realism. But I'm going to hold off and
just hope that y'all keep the same energy I have
been over here already. Gavin Newsom's joining me, Gavin Newsom's

(31:41):
joining Karen, Gavin News's joining the people that listen to
this podcast. We've been on this shit? Do we been
on Team Patty go to Hell? All that type of shit.
My reticence for that type of rhetoric is not about
if it's right or wrong. I think it's absolutely right.
My veterans is two fo my reticins is twofold. One.

(32:02):
Will the people who like this continue to support him
when he misses a few times? Right, We're talking about
four years, guys. He is going to have some tweets
that don't go. He gonna have some moments that don't work.
He gonna do some things that's incongruent with Team Patty.
He's gonna have to do some machinations within this state,
will have to govern. It's gonna things just happen. And

(32:24):
we have always held these things against Democrats. I don't
think it's fair that we do it, but we have
always the second they have to do anything that compromised. Second,
they have to actually go govern for people that aren't
just the most progressive left lean the motherfuckers we start
bringing up the old or what about that now? And
we haven't seen anybody truly able to survive that and

(32:44):
not shed voters and goodwill. So I hope that's number one.
Number two. Gavin Newsom himself is not the most consistent person.
This is a new thing. He is trying for the
last month or so. This because he was just on
podcasts supremacist, So we can ignore that if you want to.
And maybe that makes me, like I said, I like

(33:05):
to stay ground in reality. Y'all know this don't make
me the best person at parties. And I get the
rah rah, but I don't want to be man. I
think Gavenuewson really figured this thing out. And then two
months from now, it's like, oh, Steve Banning is back
on my show. We're gonna talk about what's really holding
America back, right, you know, Hey, We're gonna talk about
how people don't we don't we need to get rid

(33:25):
of all this trans shit, this transhit is holding us back.
Then we're gonna be right back to fuck Gavenue some
fuck is or not even fuck him. It's gonna be
a lot of people arguing about it. I think he
can withstand a lot of this stuff because he is
a straight, handsome white man, and y'all are racist because
the last thing I'm saying, I'm passing to you care.

(33:48):
I remember twenty fifteen ish, I remember a person everybody
was excited about because they kept that same energy and
they were petty, and they put people's feet to the fire.
And when they went low. The other this person they

(34:09):
went to hell. Everybody loved it. They said, why the
fuck won't that person run for president? Because goddamn, I
don't nobody's given us energy like this. This is what
we wanted, This is what we wanted from Obama, and
he couldn't give us this level of energy. You know
that person was Kamala Harris all those Senate hearings.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yes, because I'm not trying funded. Prior to that, I
did not know who that woman was because I'm not
from California. So, like you said, periodically they'll do things
and all of a sudden they kind of get national names,
and it happens Barack Obama, you know, like it happens
like you go, who is that person? Because it's fifty
fucking states, you don't know everybody, and so all of

(34:56):
a sudden she came on to see and I remember
them hearings was going a like wildfire. They were spreading
everybody's like, who is this black woman? Why is she
chewing them out? I like her and I remember that.
I remember that crudely, but I liked that, and I
appreciate her right.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Also from California, and at the time, I remember she
ran and she lost, you know in the primaries. Fine,
no problem, Trump Trump won. Okay, she runs again, she
runs again, but Biden wins and she doesn't. She doesn't.
I don't even think she came in second, like you know,

(35:32):
she dropped out. And the amount of things, many of
them untrue, many of them biased, much of it propaganda.
The amount of things that were leveled at her that
eroded her goodwill as a California progressive who suddenly was
a cop and uh at best she was, you know,

(35:57):
supposed to be like this, this like conservative democrat, which
I don't think was ever true. We've gone into examples
on this show of exactly through our history and in
detail and why I never bought it. But my point being,
what happened to Kamala Harris time time happened? These are

(36:18):
a bunch of wishy, washy nim komput voters. These motherfuckers
don't have a spine or a backbone. They don't have
staying power right now, The people I'm talking to that
are most turned on in Jazz by Gavin Newsom are
people that already felt this way and been waiting for
somebody to say, why don't we give this a shot.

(36:39):
Let's talk that shit. And so they're like, oh cool,
Gavin Newsom's doing it, let's go. And so of course
they're willfully ignoring any misgivings about him right now because
they are desperate for somebody to take the mantle I
think of being a straight white man might allow him
to survive the slings and arrows of the typical propaganda

(36:59):
that has eroded candidates on the left that aren't straight
white man, you know, like how Joe Biden was able
to survive. I hope that that cynical calculus is correct,
and that four years from now, Gavin Newsom has gone
through the fire and everyone is still on his side
and no one's taking the breaks off, and no one's
forgotten about Trump and the mouthfeasans and all this shit,

(37:22):
and that he's good and we can ride this back.
But pardon me if I'm gonna hold out a little bit.
It's not I'm not against him. I'm not rooting against them.
I saying thing bad. I'm like, I'm waiting for you
guys to show me that. I don't know, can we
even say December of this year, y'all gonna stay on
the same Gavin Newsom for president thing. I just need

(37:43):
y'all to do it. It's not about me, right, I'll
support this man if he's one degree better than Trump.
So it's definitely not me that needs convincing. It's all
of these motherfuckers that's out here that normally don't be
for nothing. Oh you know I heard she locked up
black men. Well you know that's not really true, right,
did you look into it further than that cop?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Again?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
She just a cop cop maler. Okay, she was your
fave a year ago. Now she's the worst. That's how
it happens over here on the left. So yeah, I
hope that Gavin Newsom is able to survive. And it's
not me calling him out personally or nothing like that.
I will if they had an election tonight, I vote

(38:23):
for him, saying if he was the guy, that's it.
It ain't nothing to me. So I don't feel this
need to like go in and go back and forth
about it. It's just, you know, I hope these other
motherfuckers that do give into the need to go back
and forth until they talk themselves out of a good candidate.
I hope they can avoid it. A real Ron's says,

(38:46):
good evening. Gods, there's no surprise that the job statistics
had to be updated. Dulge crew recklessly fired thousands of
workers then had to rehire many of them. That doesn't
even take into account the other regular job losses. Oh yeah,
that's a good point too. Yeah, those numbers are fucked.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yes, because the numbers probably an accurate from the beginning
because the people that probably had that information, that knew
the most accurate information, no longer had those jobs.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
But also, like, how do you count that right? Because no,
I'm saying, how do you count that a month ago
they said we fired these people three weeks later, or
actually we went and rehired the ones we could get
back that would come back, It would come and.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
What are so?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, those numbers would have to be updated because those
numbers the first time were over Yeah that makes sense,
Damien says, honestly, can we petition some although although honestly,
now I think about it, the numbers had to be updated.
But it is interesting that numbers went down because you
would think the original numbers would have all the firings
and then the rehirings would make the numbers go like, oh,

(39:45):
unemployment is back down, but instead she was like, unemployment
is actually higher. I don't know. I mean, but y'all said,
this routine, and I'm not here to push a conspiracy theory,
like I told y'all how I felt about it, and
I'll never be able to dis prove it, and I'll
never be able to prove it. It's out of my mind.
It's a routine thing. I just hope that people I

(40:08):
see what this administration is doing to the people that
whose job it is to tell the truth and have
accountability to the public and transparency. I do not trust
this administration, and yes, I feel bad for these people
losing their jobs, but I also wonder what tremendous pressure
they are to essentially lie to us or else they're

(40:29):
going to be out of a job. And so I
think it's brave when they come out and just lose
their jobs because they're telling the truth. But we'll never
be able to trust these numbers again with the way
Trump hires loyalists and puts them in the office over everything.
Damion says, honestly, can we pretend to petition someone to
get jail to do the White House correspondence dinner when

(40:50):
Trump's out of office, of course, man, I wish.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Right, they've never had that again while Trump's in office.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Well, I mean he said, when Trump's out of office, Okay,
I don't think. Listen, we'll be lucky if if Jail's
not like a full of judge and at that point,
Jail might have his own practice. At that point, when
Trump gets out of office, he'll he'll he's just gonna
get further and further into a straight job, as further

(41:19):
fight away from comedy as a life proceeds.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Right, he gonna go over to Canada and that's gonna
be it.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, you have to get him to come from Canada
to do the correspondence dinner. Yes, reactionary, not precautionary, says
dark Namja. My landlord had all his World War three
World War two German member Billy on his wall to
include pictures of him as fellow soldiers at his medals.
This is nineteen seventy seven. I was living in the FRG.

(41:45):
He excuse me, another good feedback show. Thanks five stars,
Thanks buddy, Thank you. Who was the poe? The poe was?
Do you still have an Aol email account? Yes? Or no?

Speaker 2 (41:56):
No? I could if I don't even remember it. I
can't did it in for Elver I that motherfucker's lost
in the wind.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Nine percent of our audience does have still AOL email accounts,
and I don't.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Put that on your resume. Them people is gonna turn
AI's a I kick you out there to do black names,
and ninety.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
One percent of you guys do not have it anymore.
All right, let's get into a break here for the
first time, and uh, we'll come right back do the
next episode.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
If it plays it decides to be friendly. Oh, it
ain't being friendly at all.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Going on here. It's like I had to play, but
it's like no music for you. We do what we
want to do over here. Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
You ain't ever been escaed, tim I don't know, and
y'all definitely don't want us singing.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, let me hit this control see if I can.
There's my whole computer freezing. Oh, this is commercial.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
This song hilarious.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
This is just a question that called that. That song
is called Uh give me a break and it's a boy.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
I like that one.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Just a commercial break. Yep. Twenty six seconds we get
the exact commercial break and we're back.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yes, I know, Uh, Corey was looking at Uh at
the phone, going, y'all don't need to sing because Corey
can sing. We can't sing from a Living Color. Oh yeah,
I know. He was like, please don't sing.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I know. Sorry, not all of us are gifted enough.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
To all of us have that beautiful voice of yours.
I'm sorry to disappointed you.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Can't all do. Oh shut out to vern By the way,
it was his birthday yesterday, Verne read what happy been
aty birthday?

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Baby?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah? Man, what a what a blessing to know them
and the you know another day listened to the show
and all that cool shit. That's that's like super dope.
And you know, I told y'all, I don't know if
I said on the pregame or regular show, but man,
if you haven't seen The Living Color, Tiny Desk, go
go watch it. It is excellently fucking amazing. I was
driving around just listening to it like it was a

(44:27):
fucking like a CD in the car.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Were have an a ball?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Thirty four of the White Man's foh six comments says,
I'm predicting only a visit from the great beautiful and
wives aliens. You see, I'm already preparing and trying to
get on their good side will be the big event
that changes everything. People will be afraid of them, not me.
I'm hoping for a job in a new shining wide
worldwide administration as some kind of network manager and unite

(44:53):
because the differences on the new thread threat will be
bigger than the human differences. You heard it here first.
I was just saying it just reminds me of It
reminds me of Rick and Morty. When Jerry started working
for the Alien Overlords when they came and took over
the Earth. He was working for the Intergalactic Federation, Yes,

(45:15):
and didn't even know what his fucking job was.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I had no idea, was just getting promotions and didn't
know what the hell he was doing.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Sean says with the Drake lawsuit, I don't see it
going anywhere but a lucky break for or Drake just
being annoying enough that it could go to settlement, dismiss
or however it's most likely scenario. Brandon Collins is great, smart,
funny and creative. I always a joy to hear him
on the pod. Yeah, this episode had Brandon on. It
was so fun.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I enjoyed Brandon.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Shoe Booty says, I bet Will Smith didn't do the
Matrix because there was no opportunity for a fun little
song for him to do. The movie Wild Wild West sucked,
but the song was a bop.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
The song was a bop. I ain't gonna lie. I
had that motherfucker on repeat at the World War Wis.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I just says, I'm just making up a matrix wrapping
my head Will Smith's style, the Mama Matrix.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Oh man, that's funny too, because if you listen to
the pregame that we just did, we went in a
rabbit hole a little bit, and I was playing like
rappers doing freestyles that were old, like older rappers like
L cool J. Black thought Will Smith to show Justin
how the Will Smith freestyle wasn't that good. But Justin

(46:25):
doesn't have good musical taste. He does and doesn't really
follow a lot of music, so he was actually on
like the Will Smith freestyle wasn't bad, and I was like,
oh god, let me just move on topics. But man,
that will Smith freestyle, God, I did not like it.
I wanted to. I wanted to because you know, I'm
team like old school rappers that are still showing these

(46:46):
young bucks what they got.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I like it, but it was better than that bet cipher,
but still was it the cipher of the ones with it.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Was the freshman list for Double EXL and we never
listened to the whole thing. We heard like one line
from every rapper, and it was those lines were mostly terrible. Okay,
let's see even He says, I also love it when
Brandon is on the show. He's so funny. I hope
to one day see a drunk Black History show live.
I hate that. You believe videos as well. I had
to block them because they were just rage bait. I

(47:15):
think the last one I saw was one leftist versus
twenty maga. It was a mess. Yeah, I don't. I'm
not a fan of them. I'm never going to be
a fan. I've accepted that they're a big part of society,
that people keep sharing them, and they think that they're
proving something.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I think what they mostly serve is serve as is one,
of course, confirmation bias. Right, it's not like no one's
minds being changed, and those conservatives mostly go back and
increase their platform. So number one confirmation bias. But the
second thing, it represents. Is what I think is this
sort of smoothing of these personalities, so like people you

(47:58):
normally would not fuck with or wouldn't want to see
in this type of arena. That's a place where that's
very much about charisma and likability and photo being photogenic,
and it's being able to shine, and so coming in
there and dressing you know, to the knives or even
like a weirdo. To be honest, some of those people
dress like pickup artists, but they know what they're doing

(48:21):
at this point, and everyone that comes in the room knows.
You'd almost be better off with some sort of ambush
where no one knew what they were showing up for,
and then you then a debate broke out that might
give you some more real, real standards or something. But
instead the conservatives come there and their point is to
be like not broken, Like no matter what new information

(48:42):
I hear, I'm going to just disagree, and no matter
how stupid you think I look, I'm gonna be able
to take this same video go back to my people
and be like, see, I didn't even fold. I didn't
flinch at all, no matter what they told me. I
was like, Ah, gay people not people, and that's gonna
be a badge of honor and then for the liberal person,
and they're gonna show it to a person like me

(49:02):
who already agrees with them, and I'm supposed to be
like yeah, But like I said, the subconscious, subliminal part
is not that I agree with you. It's that I
now need to kind of like you.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I like you.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
You stood there and you went toe to toe with
a bunch of assholes, and of the people, I like
you more than those people. So even when I don't
fuck with you as a person, I don't think the
way you get down is cool. I think you You
donet lied on people, you don't been antagging this. I'm
supposed to walk out of there and be like, you
know what, that person's not that bad. And honestly, that

(49:37):
was the thing I saw my most coming out of
Amanda Sells thing people that typically because no one wants
to dislike Amanda Sells, right, but people who've kind of
had to accept, like, yeah, she got some ways about
her that kind of make like her morals and her
shit kind of tend to go at a whim based
on who she mad at today or who she fucked with,

(49:58):
who she don't want to fuck with today, how she
could make this about herself today, And so people had
kind of been forced to be quote unquote off of
team Amanda, not saying that they don't want her to win,
blah blah. But people have had to accept like, well, no,
that the situation you describe with Ray was not what
you said it was. And Ray was right to be like, no,

(50:20):
you can't just go to your job and call people
niggas that don't want to be called niggas and then
go to HR and expect me, the fucking person that
stars in the show and as a showrunner, to like
stop what I'm doing and go to HR and tell
them you better let her call you a nigga. And
you the exact kind of person that don't play about
shit like that. So like, if someone would the shoe

(50:41):
was on the other foot, So I wanted to call
you something, you would have been Yeah, I would be
the fucking most evilest person in the world, agreed. So
stuff like that, you know, people had to kind of
be like, yeah, man, it might be tripping on this,
But now I've seen multiple articles from the Route and
other places that are like, Aye, we are being too
hard on the Mando Sills and I said, and that's

(51:03):
why you go on jubili yes, because y'all the same
people that wrote about the fuck ups and wrote about
when she was wrong and wrote about why But na
I saw shit being like, why do we treat doctor
Umar different from Amanda Sells? And I was like, I
don't who are the people that treat them different? Because
I think a lot of us kind of put them
in the same, like I mean a broken clock. I

(51:25):
like when they be right about shit, love it, but
when they be wrong, I'll be like, oh, this sucks
because they're just as adamantly wrong as they are adamantly
right about things, you know. So I don't know, it's
just but all I'm seeing is that that's probably the
benefit of going on there is that it puts you
in a better light and it works for everyone involved,

(51:46):
Like the conservatives get a better light, but it's just
a different group of people as do the liberals. At
this point, singer to Mia and Deborah Cox and Atlantis
Moore said, are going to all have to put out
albums to restore Canadas because good between Aubrey Grammatry Lames,
that music scene ain't looking too good. I have an
honest question rider, Karen, and I am only a casual

(52:09):
hip hop listener, so I know mostly mainstream stuff and
mainstream beef. You two would know better than me. But
has anyone in the history taken hip hop taken a
bigger l to Aubrey in your opinion? So when someone
over losing the rap beef seems like a pretty big
one to Meuse.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
People have taken Al's and people have you know, lost beefs,
some of them very personal over like over the years.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I honest to god, I honestly I think this is
the worst one because and I'm saying, there are rappers
who got killed, yes, but we think of them so
much more fondly than a guy who's suing, who's asking
a record company to produce paternity documents on a rapper's

(52:59):
son and daughter.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
But somebody turns around and said, you not like us,
because ain't nobody else doing this in the rap game,
nobody but you like you are an outlier.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
And it's just crazy because I think the guys uh
Mark Phillips and those guys are called artc World. The
guys a arty see world. They do live streams and
stuff and I think Mark said it the best when
he was like, Drake's problem has not been that he lost,
It's been that he has not known how to take

(53:31):
his loss. That's the big deal. It's like, I've we've
all seen rappers lose beefs. Someone loses every beat. Yeah,
but we've never seen a person crash out where they would.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Not accept that they just took an l would not
accept that.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Or just accept. Public opinion was I lost, moving on
and still won't move on.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Right, And there are a lot of rappers that are
have been around for decades now. Everybody got careers, you know,
some people still rapping, some people not.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
But Cannabis would disagree, but I'm just kidding that, right right.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
And but you know what they didn't do. They didn't sue,
they didn't take it to court. They like, hey, we're
putting this on Wax and the public wood his side,
and that's kind of an end. There are rappers who
kill people over beef, Yes they will.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
And and that's like a horrible way to handle losing
a beef. There are rabbits who kill people, and even
those rappers did not go out as bad as Drake.
That's crazy. They took a life. Sometimes lives go to prison,
and we still don't think of them as bad as
we think of what Rbury's doing right now, at least

(54:42):
to me, I think right thinking people. I'm sure there's
people that are in his camp that agree with him,
that are super huge fans that have bought the lot
that they have to believe that someone's taking Drake down
because he was such a threat to the game or
some stupid shit like that, Right, But that's all just
sounds like coke, Like that's just kope them. So no,
I think this is the worst I've ever seen. Nick

(55:06):
Red leaves a comment on our YouTube video. There's a
theory that Jubilee is a side. Obviously I don't know
if it's true, but at this point I don't doubt it. Yo. Listen, who,
like I said, I tried out to do conspiracies, but nigga,
we found out motherfucker Russia was funding these motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I'd be like, Yo, that makes sense. Ratter, Get damn
get the young.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Turks, like it's a bunch of motherfuckers that boy they
find out the rt uh anyway, right, Ramsey says five
stars for the replay. Tippers ms roll says, now, wait
a minute, I thought that we the blacks all thought
Putty Tang was hilarious. Girl, I thought so too until
I started talking to people.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yes, me and Roger was in the movie theater, and
I don't know, I don't know if it might have
been just me and him when we went to can
So I think we when we were to go see
Pooty Tang. We watched that ship and we laughed a
whole goddamn movie from beginning to end, Me and Roger
at the time of our life. We laughed going out
in the car come back home like that is one

(56:09):
of my favorite movies of all time. Side I tay, yeah,
tippy pal.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah, like that's my shit. Like in the theater, I
knew people didn't like it. So I know this, and
I went to a black theater. This is in fairbel
and uh. People was walking out in the theater and
I was crying, laughing. I didn't give a fuck about them,
and I know them. I know all the blacks aren't
on board, but you know whatever, I enjoyed it. Darth

(56:39):
Vakra says, funny thing about the Drake Kendrick Beef is
that I'm the opposite where I can no longer really
listen to and enjoy Kendrick's music because a lot of
Bandwagon fans just ruined it for me. I'm pissed as
fuck that Kendrick has white people feeling empowered to tell
my black ass that I'm not like us whenever they
feel slighted, like what y'all, What y'all ain't us at all?

(56:59):
I have friends who went through struggles like this with
the Kendrick blowing up thing, and so I don't want
to be disrespectful to them, but I do not understand
for the life of me, why y'all would let white

(57:20):
people occupy that much space in your brain. I'm sorry
they don't get to take Kendrick because they just got
onto it.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Right.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I've been here from day two. I'm a Day two
Kendrick fan, Section eighty. I'm not giving up the lyrics,
I've memorized, the music, I love, the understanding I've gained,
the amount of love I have for this artist because
some white people also bought tickets to the concert, a
goal that he was hopeful to one day achieved by
the way, right, like he's selling music not to small

(57:55):
boutique rooms he would like to fill up a stadium,
and it's a dream come true when he's been able
to do it. He deserves it all, as he said,
And I'm gonna be here riding, you know, riding today
to the wheels fall off. So if anything, if white
people are what who y'all think they are, right, they'll

(58:16):
fall off. I'm not They're not gonna date with him,
Like I'm gonna be here the whole time. I'm not
waiting for them to leave the concert for me to
start attending. I was here already, so that's me. And
I also worry about this as a black person that
creates content as well. What the fuck y'all gonna do
if our podcast does blow up? I hate y'all gonna.
I used to like when they was talking and shit,
but now white people are hearing it. Well, okay, so

(58:38):
you're giving white people all the power over with my
black art. That's crazy. So yeah, I guess you cannot.
And then also, listening to music is an individual thing,
so like I can't imagine I'm listening to Kendrick on
my Spotify thinking about man, but white people be hearing
this sometimes. And I at Jail Covin could tell attest
to this. I hate the white people using the Kendrick memes.

(59:02):
I hate. I hate those memes, meaning like when I
see like the the law Cavin Republicans or whatever, the Lincoln,
I forget what they called. No it's not the lawd
Cap Repulicans, but whatever the people are that like hate Trump,
but they still Republican. They be tweeting out memes like
hey Trump, I hear you like I'm young, and.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
That's that's actually hilarious.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
I'm not gonna lie, and jail will send them to
me knowing that I'm like, oh, roll my eyes, but
I'm roll my eyes not. I will never listen to
this song again. No, that's also giving white people too
much powers.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
You is never gonna I will never give up Kendrick Lamar.
He did. Amen.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah, as long as he did, As long as his
art isn't catering to them, right then, I don't give
a fuck. Black people are cool and our shit is
the best, and that's why everybody wants to be it,
and everybody wants to be imitated and be down with it.
So no, there's no in my head for white people
deciding they like a thing that I have already thought

(01:00:05):
was cool as.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Fuck, right, and why I have to give it up
because they entered the room.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, they just late to the party, right, But yeah, anyway,
that's interesting that you allowed that much space to go
to them. I would think about that if I was you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, because it's you know, it's a lot of artists
you would have to give up then, like a whole
bunch of artists that have crossed over.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Beyonce, you having mad white people have concert, yeah, she does.
That was not no black only space. And also the
artists aren't trying to make it a black only space,
so it's just kind of a weird. I don't know.
I don't know, But I also think the internet is
driving us fucking crazy. You should not be seeing this
many white people's reactions to the ship in real life.
Back in the day before social media, you would just
be like, I like this artist, I'm gonna go to

(01:00:46):
that concert you in a stadium, and that's your first
time being like, oh, I guess white people like this
shit too, and then you go right back to your life.
But now I guess you got motherfucker's doing the like,
you know, dances from the Super Bowl memes and shit.
So maybe it's fucking people's heads up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I think so too, And also I may be projecting,
but this sounds like a person spends a lot, let
you say a lot of time online because a lot
of times people didn't have them very strong opinions like that,
they spend a lot of time online kind of seeing
this thing, and it gives you a false reality that
all white people are doing this thing, and most of
them are not. They the fuck with Kendrick or they don't,

(01:01:23):
and if they knew, that's fine. And there's some white
people that been fucking with Kendred six the beginning. So
it's one of those things where you can't control art
ones out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I just wonder where, you know, actually I don't wander where.
I actually don't want to see it, So strike my
comment from the record. I was gonna say where they
be seeing people that are black telling black tell that
aren't black, telling black people they not like us. But honestly,
I don't care where that's happening, And wherever it's happening,

(01:01:52):
I bet more than likely it's gonna be some shit
I agree with, like some white people telling Byron Donald's
they not like us. And I'm gonna be like, I
just see Godzilla fighting Manthra, so let them fight. I'm
not fit to come to his fucking honor. So good
luck to everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Good luck to you all. Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Damien says Karen and Brandon were suffering from guests the
race PTSD.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
All the way to the end of the damn show.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Drake fall has been epic, and I seriously doubt anyone
could have predicted he would totally unraval filing that garbage lawsuit.
TKG says, not gonna lie that guess. The Race for
the Black DJ from Floyda got me questioning my race
radar right and my own Jason says love when Brandon's
on the show. He's always has great energy. It's so dope,
all of the moves he's making. I gotta give Will

(01:02:39):
Smith a break. I remember in nineteen ninety nine, if
your agent comes to you with a movie about the
Old West, John Spiders and Sell Mahayak, I feel like
the only thing I would heard was sel Mahayak, When
do we do to shoot?

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
If?

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
If you're checking her Instagram, ain't nothing changed. I can't
stand that Jubilee stuff, just like I can't stand any
of those panel shows on cable news. Here's the thing,
though about the Will Smith Summer High thing, because she
is she is, she as bad as hell. But he's
Will Smith in this nineteen ninety nine, not Jason Jasper,

(01:03:12):
who wrote the comment Will Smith can get with Selma Hyak.
He don't need to do a shitty movie to get
with her. Like that's not some crazy stretch down. He's
Will fucking Smith. He's like, man, the only way to
get is Selma Heiight. This movie is the dude, the
worst movie I've ever read the script of in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Shit, he might not have read it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Let me get Cisco and make a song without her
in the video. At this point, Americas talked too much.
I'm too tired of the conversation. The conversations also a
slur to me. Now, whereever someone says we need that
have a conversation, I'm just like call him Nick. Just
call them Nick.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Agree the Poe.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Will Drake win his lawsuit against UMG yes or no,
or he will win some sort of financial settlement, but
it won't go to court or the sue dismissed without
him gaining any money out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I think the suit's gonna be dismissed because like the like,
every time you turn around, the requirements getting more and
more outrageous, more and more shit that you go, yeah,
nobody would be willing to do that. And or is
something that's public knowledge that you can literally go find
yourself and that sass says a letter that that white
man wrote. He basically in white Man Lane's going bitch,

(01:04:24):
I ain't give you a goddamn dime. You need the gone,
get get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Shout out to the chat room Lincoln Project. That's that's
what that's that's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Who they are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
I was like log Cabin, I was doing log Cabin Republicans,
Lincoln was secretly gay, and the Lincoln Project together in
my head to be like, is it the log Cabin
Republicans that don't like Trump but love some Republican bullshit?
And which ones is my tank? Anyway? The poll forty
think the suit will be dismissed without him gaining any

(01:04:54):
money off of it, which is essentially him losing money
right because they're not to pay them. Twenty one percent
think he'll get some sort of financial step settlement, but
it won't go to court, just so they don't have
to go through discovery. Thirty three percent Peo will think, No,
he's gonna just flat out lose that loss. It's gonna
go to trial. He's gonna lose.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Zero percent think he will actually win this lawsuit. That's crazy,
that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, and you know what, I think what I said
is gonna happen. But I can also because Drake is
the type of person who will will not give up.
I could see him taking it all the way to
TRAI out losing. It's still happened to pay them anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Yeah, I get all that stuff is possible. Everything's possible
except him winning that lowsuit. In my finial, he ain't. Uh.
Let's see episode thirty one forty five the mull, Holland
and Hunter Show. You had seven comments. I just says
I like that Rod also thinks ahead when it comes
to aliens. Good thinking. I add one more free tip.
If aliens ever kidnap, you observe them and try to

(01:05:51):
imitate them with sounds and moves, make them think you
are similar to them. They might find you entertaining and
too valuable to be food. Always here for the great suggestion.
With the great suggestions, Apia I like how she's She
ends her own email with her own review of her
own comment. I'm always great and I'm always right. It's

(01:06:12):
your friend, you know, I don't miss in the house. Yes,
and that's hilarious. Here with the best comments that have
ever been commented.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
This is your girl, all through that confidence, just letting
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Ramsey Chka says the way I hollered when I saw
the post about the AI generated Blackoutists five stars. I
used Microsoft co palatt and this came up co Palette.
The Blackoutists are long running free comedy talk show host
hosted by Roddy Karen and married a black couple from
the South. The podcast model is nothing wrong. It's funny.
It blends humor with insightful commentary and pop culture politics,
current events, social issues. Well, I guess co palat was close.

(01:06:50):
I mean it was right. Rona Raphield says, I have
met a Rod Maul Holland he was a star of
Spider Man, Don't Get Home. I also tried to sell
me land in Uganda. He also doesn't thought he had
me by saying he loves middle names. Toob Man twelve says,
like Rod said, I hope this redistricting gamble pays off

(01:07:12):
for Newsome that what isn't being talked about much online
is that during the Obama years, we in California voted
to change our constitution to put a non partisan independent
panel and charge of redistrict things. So for this plan
to work, Newsom needs the state legislature to approve a
ballot measure temporarily suspended independent panel. Then it would need
to be approved by voters, and all of this will
have to be done in time for next year's elections. Yeah,

(01:07:34):
how work. I hope it happens. I just do at
this point, in for a penny, in for a pound.
You can't come up halfway with this. You can't be
like we tried. And in March of next year, guys,
it's not gonna happen. We're not gonna get those seats.
These are these people who are his newest fans, are

(01:07:58):
not designed to deal with any level of disappointment from Democrats. Specifically,
they don't want to deal with any realism from Democrats either.
They don't want to be told like, hey, this is
a lot harder than what I said it was on Twitter.
He'll pay a cost, a hefty cost in support if
he cannot deliver on these seats. So I hope he can,

(01:08:20):
and I hope all these other Democratic states do the
same if they If they could do it in California,
they need to start thinking about it everywhere because Republicans
aren't gonna start with Texas. They're gonna continue down all
the southern states that they have to control of, and
they're gonna try to get more seats with these horrible
redistricting plans. They're gonna try to do it everywhere they can.

(01:08:41):
So I think the game is afoot and we just
gotta we gotta do it. So please deliver, Gavin Newsom. Please.
I'm not rooting against this. I'm not being cynical. I'm
not trying to be a not believer. I would like
to be able to believe that this is possible and
that this is at least a plan, And I think
you would get a lot a lot of political will power,

(01:09:05):
influence and hope if you could do this. If he
can do this, I think you'll see a lot of
people that were holding out, that were being well, what
about this the thing he did this year, what about
the homelessness. There'll be a lot of people like man,
fuck it, let's go. This is what everybody get like
Gavin will be what everyone's saying. So I hope that's right, doctor,

(01:09:26):
dear mister Maulholland and missus Hunter and mss Hunter, says
Brooklyn shoe Back. I love your podcast. Thank you for
taking the bullets for us by following reporting all the
political news you do. I get so mad and stress
just from your segment, so I can't imagine what you
got through to just collect the stories. You are appreciated
collecting the story. It's not that hard, Like I just

(01:09:46):
save them. Sometimes I will, I won't lie. Sometimes I
have to save them to read the details on the air,
because you're right, I don't want to read the whole
fucking story and then come to air and through hot right. So,
and also I think it helps when we start the
segment not that man and then get mad. So I

(01:10:09):
don't want to start this segment like these motherfuckers today.
I want to start it with like, all right, let's
see what they did today. Okay, that's bad. That's bad.
That's bad, bad. Fuck them, you know, I hang up
the phone, right. I kind of like fifty Steens Restaurants
because I feel like burgers and fries taste better in them.
That heightened adrenaline from the possibility that counting racism makes

(01:10:29):
the food taste here. I mean that was the secret
to Palladine's kitchen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I wouldn't it do.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
She was like, listen, uh, you work here now, okay,
you're not a customer, no more. Get back that boy,
I will say. The place we ate the food was
not banging like that now it was to me. It
wasn't terrible, but it was like what you would expect
from Wendy's or something. But and it cost about the
same so it's like no harm, no foul. But it

(01:10:57):
wasn't like blow your mind shit. It was just like
Burger and from VARs you know, Greedy's, Mister Moholland and
miss Hunter love your stuff, says Ede. I think being
a mayor of any major city is a thankless job,
but it seems harder, especially for black mayors, because I
think when there are cities with a large black population,
they expect the mayor to cater only to their needs

(01:11:17):
instead of serving the entire city. I think that's why
there are so many people who don't think Obama did
enough for black people. I'm in the Philly area and
sure to hate the mayor in Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Some of the criticisms deserve, but some not. But I
don't think she's any worse than the last person. Yeah,
I like I said, there's very few places that typically
go up for their mayor, especially a black mayor in
black cities, unless that mayor's under fire from like Republicans
and racists and shit, and then we'll support that mayor.

(01:11:47):
Like Wes Holland's doing that. Now, we're like he's going
through enough that people are like we got his back
in every single way. Because I remember, like maybe a
couple months ago, he had said something about how he
didn't want to fund another one of these like reparation studies,
because he was like, we fucking know the problem. Either
we're gonna give people reparations.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Or not studies waste.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
People did not care what his reasoning was. It was
like this coon is against reparations, and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I was like, what right?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
I thought y'all loved Maybe I'm thinking of Wesley Lotry,
but either way, it was like I thought y'all loved him.
I thought y'all I was fucking with him. Man nah man,
I don't trust's what's his problem? And so you gotta
go into the details and fight through it. And all
the blogs that are just screen capping the title and
being like home thoughts, what do we you gotta go
throughout that? But then white people started attacking him, The

(01:12:39):
GOP started attacking the city Trump's attack, and then all
of a sudden it becomes like, oh no, no, we're
gonna put our arms around him and say leave him alone.
But in general, unless a mayor is going specifically through that,
Keisha les Bottom. Same thing with Trump and with the
fucking governor of Georgia whose name I can't camp camp

(01:13:02):
Brian Kemp, like when Brian Kemp was focused on Atlanta,
when Trump's administration was trying to focus on Atlanta and
this enfranchise those voters we have. Keisha Lance bottoms back.
But the second she has to start governing and doing
stuff in her city, like dealing with crime, dealing with
the police, dealing with budgets, deal dealing with racial issues

(01:13:25):
that pop up, all of a sudden, it's like, I
don't know if I fuck with this person. And that's
kind of just to me the way I've always seen
it with black mayors. They it's kind of a thankless
job that maybe you can like graduate out of. I don't.
I think a lot of black mayors just the reason
they're always trying to climb up a ladder and get
the fuck out because stay here, high risk, very little

(01:13:48):
reward being a mayor, and anything that happens on your watch,
it's like, you did it. So cops killed a black person.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
You did that shit right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
You know, you didn't go down there and fucking kill
the cop yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
They did it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Your ass was with the cops. You know, all the
apparatuses that the cops had to put on you. With
their power that they've been granted from budgets in the state,
they can make you look bad, they can erode the
good will, they can turn you into a public enemy,
and you got to navigate that. Stuff like that just
kind of sucks. So anyway, that's just my very mild

(01:14:23):
high observation. And you know, individually, I'm sure everyone has
a case against their mayor and why they don't fuck
with them. But at the same time, I just think
it's a very difficult position for a black person to
be in for a black city that gender war was
elite it's so rare that they almost make me forget
it's a skit. But I do think they ever played
their handle bit when she mentioned him paying out a bill.

(01:14:43):
Still a good one. That was one of the best
ones I've ever seen. YouTube The mo Holland and Hunter
Show ten comments on this one. Dark Namda left like
five comments seven what's in the box? So you got
that references? She is probably a government assistance. I don't

(01:15:04):
forget what was talking about. Fun show. Thanks five stars
Lennard Brothers. Cyber trucks looked like Elon's Torso, yeah, I've
seen that video. I mean that picture before, Damien says.
Brendan Scott's respond to that voicemail was appropriate and far
more elegant than anything I would have. I would say,
I'm ready to turn that verbal violence physical defending yourself.

(01:15:27):
Of course, I wouldn't go out on my way to
start shit with a low vibration idiot like this. Alicia said,
speaking of the other Karen, when you're gonna invite her
on the show, She's been invited. I've sent her emails
before she asked to be invited, and I sent her
email immediately that weekend. But she's also extremely fucking busy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Is she busy? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
I feel like she was making a plan for a
person that's not nearly as busy as she is. But
maybe I'll re up that email to her, because it's
been months, literally since I sent that email. Because she
was like, when you're gonna have me on the show?
I was like, tomorrow, when you want to come on? Like,
it's not a she always the door is legitimately always open.

(01:16:05):
We probably would do more of an interview to at
least the first time she's on the show and just
talked to her about life and how you know her,
her story and how she got this far and all
the stuff she's been accomplishing, because I think she's so
smart and I would love to pick her brain for
all that story.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Very smart woman.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
But yeah, the invite being sent out. If anything, thanks
for the reminder to remind her that, hey, the door
is still open and that happens sometimes and that look,
maybe it's my personal hand us. Maybe that's why you
need pr people.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
And shit, But yep, that's a consistent yeah, but that is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
One of my personal things too, because like Bomii Jones,
friend of the show, friend in real life blah blah blah.
There are times where I like ask, like, yo, come
on the show or whatever, and somehow to drop Bog
is dropped. Never on my end, but Bog gets dropped.
I don't I didn't get in my head. I'm like,
am I being annoying if I ask again and be like, hey,
so remember a month ago, actually come on the show

(01:17:01):
and you kind of didn't respond, Like maybe they didn't
respond because they didn't want to go on the show,
And now I'm making it fucking awkward that they got
to absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Tell me no.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
So I don't know, guys, I'm a human being and
I'm not a pusher. I'm not that kind of person.
And also I'm cool with the idea of like, sometimes
people just need to do their own thing. I have
people like that in my life where they got their
own things. But I wouldn't hop on it necessarily because
we're not doing the same shit and there's lines of

(01:17:31):
like we need to stay in this lane and all
that stuff. So I you know, it's nothing personal, but
you asked, so that's your answer. She says, there was
a lot of seriously crazy mofos on this episode. Lord,
it was Jason says, I'm not positive, but I think
you have. If you had the cyber truck, Elon had
long turn the corner, you knew what you were supporting

(01:17:51):
that line of demarcation, that sort of his Jesus King
moment that gender wars was incredible, but it really was
heavily slanted for the dude. Only way it would have
been more or one size. That she was talking about
his dead mother right right, like who was gonna be
on her side? That's a very important thing when you
make the gender work content.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
People skip over that. But the hardest thing is finding
the balance to where people can kind of agree with
both yards right, especially if it's along gender lines. That's
what really makes it go off is when people are like, no,
I'm a woman and that woman is right. No, I'm
a man, that man is right now, we're cooking with grease.

(01:18:28):
Maybe if he's if her mom was sick, they could
have brought some balance. That's a good one. That story
about the woman who prayed over those bullets was wild.
I guess she was like Jesus, take the steal.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
And then he said, que the CSI music, which I
have to find it here go buddy h Thanks Jason.
All right, let's go to another break with another new submission.
This one's called tvg w T jam by Psycho Music.

(01:19:03):
Psycho Music.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
We go, Man Camra got.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
To my kid hand every second. Next fire, you can't stand,
just hold in like the party can wait. Last over
the truth gets the race take a wild swing. Politics
to be mad.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
It's the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
It's the black Nights stolen carry keep the joke so quick,
the thing, the peels heal fuck last sister.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Really still.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
I don't know why, but that makes me feel like
I should be yelling at people with these notes. You
wait a laugh, motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Right, you better turn up.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Episode three one four six, Open Marriage, closed casket. We
had a seven comments, all right, I just says the
husband in the sword story has fallen into the sword
fifty times. What an unlucky guy, right, very unlucky. Who
would have thought? Rona Raphael says, I just wanted to
point out that the GOP and California already launched a
lawsuit against Newsance Plans exactly what I said last week.

(01:20:16):
I was looking at my garden when you read the
first guest the race story. I was like it can't
be before the true reason for the murder dropped. Then
the other stories came along, and I thought to myself,
this could be the next sequel to the Parabo Kuran
latest action romance novels. Thank you, Rod, preorder your copy now.
They'll be ready before George R. R. Martin's fifth Game
of Thrones book. Will everything will be ready before that.

(01:20:40):
Tanya W. Forty two says, the last time I was
called for jerry duty, I went in ready to jury
nullify someone out of a bogus drug charge. Instead I
ended up on a sex trafficking case and the defending
was so guilty damn. But it did really change my
perspective on jerry duty. I don't feel that it's a
drag anymore. I'm willing to do my civic duty. Also,
when you covered the Jamie Lee Curtis boob story, I

(01:21:01):
remember back in the when the NC seventeen rating was
first rolled out, there was a satirical article somewhere proposing
additional ratings, and one of them was the j LC dash,
in which stuff for Jamie Lee Curtis appears naked. That's hilarious,
Shoe Boody says, wrapping recipes is a thing, and I
followed the rapping chef on TikTok okay. I figured somebody

(01:21:22):
already beat me too, Juwan said. But the thing is
it does the rapping chef do a bunch of like
pre ambles were like, you know, this is a recipe
my mother used to make on them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
It's just straight the recipes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Yeah, I need to know. This has been in my
ancestry for thirty generations and when we came over from
the Mesopotamia. Yeah, Dwan says. While I've never been in
a building, been in a building the cars crashed into
while I was in it, I've had the misfortune of
being on a bus while a car ran into it.
Happened to be on the phone that morning with my

(01:21:59):
girlfriend at the time. It was a typical morning rush
hour traffic here in Pittsburgh. The bus had the light
but was in the middle of the intersection. I had.
I could see this car not slowing down. I had
a president's mind to say, alloud, I gotta go. This
car is going to run into this bus, so that's
all ill, so that all of us could brace for
the impact. The driver was fine, the car was total
and I had to walk the rest of the way
to work, so now it's late. Damn right. Yeah, at

(01:22:22):
least you were able to see it before it happened, though,
Oh shit, I didn't do the pole for the last episode.
Restaurants based on the nineteen fifties in America, yes or no,
fifty three percent say no, forty seven percent say yes. Okay.
Sean says, that's hilarious. I have not been in a
restaurant when a car hit it, but I was in
a restaurant that was hit by two tornadoes within a

(01:22:43):
half hour of me leaving. You left just in time, even,
he says, I keep seeing that video to influencers who
were eating when the car crashes to the restaurant. I
wonder if they still got a bill for their food. Yeah,
I do wonder how that works. You gotta go to
the hospital. They're like, okay, but the check, that's just
a matter of the check.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Sir. Yeah, we know you could up with class, but
we still need this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
I'm on a stretcher. Yeah, I hear that, but I
can't stretch these profits.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
So that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
I need you to you too. Dark Namer says federal
congress members can earn a significantly higher salary than most
state legislators. Members of US Congress, including representations and senators,
earned a base pay of one hundred and seventy four
thousand dollars per year. The Speaker of the House and
party leaders in both the houses Senate earned higher salaries,
and contrast, state legislative salaries very widely, with some earning

(01:23:33):
a full time salaries and others being paid on a
per DM basis or receiving no salary at all. According
to the Fiscal Note and Quorum, I think that was
about me saying that a lot of the congress people
State congress people who left taxes are not These are
not rich people that are making like a lot of
them aren't making a lot of money off of that.

(01:23:55):
So I'm not sure if that I'm not sure if
that information was qualifying that or not, because but I
appreciate the background for mate, but I think these at
least I read that these dates congress people are not
making that much. Dark nand just has fun shell thanks,

(01:24:15):
Damien says Chris Pratt could have done us all a
favor with his continued silence. None of the r k
Junrmer family members I supported him, including Pras's wife.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Oh I didn't even know that part. Yeah, that's even weirder.
If Prass wife isn't supporting r K Jr. Then I
think that is weird because that was the only excuse
I thought was possible. I saw people saying that online, like, well,
you know, I mean he's married to like the r
K Jr's like niece or some shit, So maybe he

(01:24:46):
just feels like, you know, I don't want to smoke
at home. But if she's like, man, I'm not supporting
that dude, then I gotta say he's he's a weirdo
for going on Bill Maher supporting that bullshit. That's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
This is one thing where I feel like you literally
could have said nothing, literally could have said nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Most importantly though, the double standard, because like especially for
Bill Maher, but i'd say most conservatives and most whatever
the middle of the road is considered these days moderates.
They are extremely critical of Democrats in power. It's extremely critical.
If they get anything wrong, it's because they didn't want

(01:25:25):
to get it right. It's never just like they had
great intentions but it didn't work out. It's they didn't
do whatever was supposed to happen to get it done.
We don't get medicare for all. That's because Obama fucked up.
It's not because Obama has some unfortunate situation with the
Blue Dog dem He didn't want it bad enough. He
could have got it if he wanted it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
R k JR.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
This motherfucker is in charge of funding for vaccines and
he's cutting the hall off. He's firing scientists, which I
thought Bill Marr was a fan of science as a
fucking atheist, but apparently he's more of a fan of
being friend as an rfk JR. Because when it comes
to rfk JR. Suddenly it's bless your heart, oh bless
his herd. He's trying. You know what, I really admires

(01:26:08):
that he'll never change his mind no matter how much
new information is presented with him. That's what you admire,
you stupid motherfucker, you coward, that's what you admire. You
admire that a motherfucker is wrong and just gonna be
wrong until the wheels fall off because your buddies, because
y'all smoke the bowl together or some bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
That is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
You would never say that when Michelle Obama wanted these
little kids to be a little healthier and to take
some of this babs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
I'll say, motherfucking minds, didn't they they she.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Didn't do it the right way. This man is giving
you a much worse, ghetto, haphazard, non scientific ass plan
based on some shit he read off the Daily Mail.
And you guys are like, well, his heart's in the
right place, you know, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
I mean. It's a good guy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
If you've ever sat in the room with him. Fuck you, Uh,
just tanny says. Karen starts to the epic rant, where
she basically says people need take responsibility for their actions
and the things they said. Wasting time arguing online with
people you are accountable, not voting, you are accountable. It
reminds me of a tweet I saw that made me
think of you. Both far right will vote for a
candidate if they like one position. Far like far left

(01:27:15):
will only vote for a candidate if they agree with
all that positions, which is why we all now live
in Republican hellskate from j Rabbit Music. Yeah, thanks y'all
for always helping us Democrats hold ourselves accountable for what
we say by focusing on the bigger picture so that
we can stop self sabotaging our own people. Thank you. Yep, yeah,
that's real, that's real. Alicia says, that's actually a good idea.

(01:27:38):
Rod they go viral, especially for old people that like
to cook like us, as long as they're really spitting
thor a rap version of cooking with Kayo or whatever
her name is. You know, we need some old school rappers.
Although I, like I said, I think if I did it,
I would make it the recipe five minutes long. Four
minutes is me rapping about nothing else to do with

(01:27:59):
the recipe, and then the last one minute, the last
minute is the beat plan and then that's me telling
you just actually the recipe, like okay, you want to
go to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
The other say you the background to the recipe?

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Yeah, And then the last minute is like, all right,
so you want to put your pain on medium? How
it's gonna sound like ad libs, but it's gonna actually
be the recipe like medium high. All your paying uh? Jason, right,
Jason says, man, when you read that story about the
dude who killed his wife for stealing his vegetables and
pots and pans, my first thought was, damn these terrorists
are reaking. Have it a slightly different, A slightly different

(01:28:35):
on the Gaven News situation. I don't think there's any
risk in all at all for him or any Democrats
at this point. The greater risk is if he didn't
try to retaliate with his own Jerry Man during best case,
they get seats and he's a hero. Worst case they
don't get to seats. He goes back to being the
dude who had Bandon on his pot, just like three
weeks ago. I yeah, we do this again. I think

(01:28:58):
I think you estimate the floor. There's a floor beneath.
You had Bannon on your podcast three weeks ago, and
motherfuckers don't want to believe the fat me greasy till
they fucking with it. There is sad because it shouldn't
be this way. I think me and you are reasonable.
To me, he would just go back to that, and

(01:29:20):
I'd be like, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
He tried. If people were reasonable, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
I'm fine. I don't find these people that we're talking
about who are like getting boners for him. I don't
find those people to be reasonable. I find them to
be so emotionally governed that they actually like that they're
getting too high on him now so that when they
get low on him later it'll be like fuck him
instead of a like general like I should. I wasn't

(01:29:45):
in high on him, and I wasn't that low on him.
And if he can somehow make it through the gambit
and the gamut and become the presidential candidate, I will
vote for him. That's where I am, and that's where
I always stay. But I think there's a pen that
Democrats unfortunately pay for trying and not being able to succeed.
It's just what I said about Obamacare. Is it fair

(01:30:08):
that we got Obamacare, which is amazing, which is amazing
for this country, And there are still many people on
the left who are like, fuck Obama. He didn't want
it hard enough. We should have gotten medicaid for all.
Bernie Samers would have gotten medicaid for all, even with
them same numbers. Somehow he just would have wanted it

(01:30:28):
better and it would have happened.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
And they hold that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
It has been a seventeen years and they still talking
about this man about this. So yeah, Democrats pay a
higher cost for putting a goal out there, trying to
achieve it and failing it than never try it at all,
and it's fucking sad. It shouldn't be that way.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Yeah, And the thing is, I do agree that Democrats
always pay the ultimate penalty, not from the people that
are are kind of like me and Roger, you know,
like Democrats for life, like you know, and and the
thing is for us, we're like, if it's a Democrat,
I'm gonna vote for it, because there's no way I'm
voting for the other side. But you have a swath

(01:31:13):
of people, and the people underestimate, just swathed the people
that are out there, particularly online, who are just all
over the place. Your candidate gotta be perfect. They better
do it right. If they make a promise, they better
come through with it. I'm going to fall out, like
those people are quote unquote real. And those people some vote,
but a lot of them don't vote. But doorit of

(01:31:35):
them don't vote. And so let's frustrate the mean And
the same thing happened to a Kamala. When Kamala had
that condensed period of time, she was out here on
the trail saying what she was gonna do, doing things,
you know, Joe Biden saying, ain't doing things, doing the
best they could. But whatever they did. It was never enough.

(01:31:57):
It was you, you had to It was all a
but and I think I'm to the point when my
patience has ran out one hundred percent with those people.
I like, I don't have time. You want a perfect candidate,
bitch ain't gonna get one, you know, like like like
so my patients and mind dealing and talking with those people.
I don't have any faith in those people because, like

(01:32:19):
Roger said, those people will prop you up and the
second you don't accomplish it, that let you down. Talk
to AOC AOC seeing the thing. Same thing. When she
first came on the scene, she was online. Everybody loved
to and praise her, talking about how she was the
best and greatest, same thing, gap and b I had
fucking sassy online and shit like that. And the second
she had the goddamn governing and the second she had
to tell them people, hey, y'all, I'm trying to do

(01:32:41):
my job, they fucking turned on her.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
YEP, I agree, And I don't think like I said,
I don't think uh like I said, I wish. I
don't want it to be this way. So it's not
just not like a brag or like a you don't
know what you're talking about, Jason. I would like a
world where it's like what you said. But I think
when I think, the penalty of going back is much
harsher for people. Now, maybe he's straight white dude, maybe

(01:33:07):
it won't be that bad, but I just think a
lot of these people will turn it. I mean, because
we thought the same thing about bet Or Roarck and
then they just fucking got him up out of here,
Like he failed at delivering Texas. He will never be
a presidential candidate again. And he was mister the young
talk shit, curse enthusiastic white guy who could speak Spanish

(01:33:29):
from Taxas. He was going to deliver US taxes for
the first time, and the failure of what he did
sticks to him today. It's like, this is not a
fair game, he says, Game seven and the Dems are
down by like twenty. We gotta put Shack or Dwhite
on the free throw line the whole second half. Who
cares what? The left? The internet says, Oh, and no disagreement.

(01:33:50):
Who cares that the left the internet says Gavin Newsom,
Who do you think he's tweeted for? It's not for me? Yeah, everything,
So this is his strategy on these people being real.
He is banking on these people who he is placating
Internet to a point where he is banking on these
people showing up or changing minds or being galvanized to

(01:34:11):
go to the post. That is what his that is,
that is what you're watching. That's his strategy. So he cares. Oh,
and no disagreement on Jamie Lee Curtis part. I don't
know what ratings the movie is getting, but there ain't
nothing written about those tomatoes hilarious at all. Maybe La
poul have you has a car of a crashed to
a building where you were inside? Five percent? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
And five percent I was the one driving the car.
Oh no, okay, maybe that five percent. Councils, maybe just
say they met each other. All right, let's go into
another one, another big break, and we'll come right back,

(01:35:23):
all right. Union fo Linda says, Hi, right, an episode
I just listened to you were talking about exactly what
the teamsters are, and I thought i'd chime in with
some union facts tom because I'm a union organizer. There
are several different international union organizations that traditionally were each
focused on a specific trade or profession, but like, but
some like the Teamsters, eventually started to take on different

(01:35:45):
additional professions. They started out as truckers but have also
unionized other professions. But they're far from the only one,
just one of the larger ones. United Autoworkers is also
another large union that started with automatic automative factories, but
now has been and expanding the other industries like grocery, retail,
and academic workers. As more and more industries are unionized

(01:36:05):
and many new local unions choose to join and existing
International Teamsters uaw IATSC sack after I am often regardless
of the original scope and function focus of the union.
I'm a member of a local union which represents aerospace engineers,
and we are part of the larger International Union IFPTE,
which originally had was for shipyard engineers and draftsmen. Sorry

(01:36:29):
for the acronym suit, but thought i'd give some context
about the labor movement. You're totally right though, that many unions,
like many most institutions, are currently headed by white men,
which often results in some choices that aren't always aligned
with the actual union membership. There is a push to
make many unions more democratically representative of membership, but that's
going to take some time. Linda. Thank you, Linda.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
One agree and thank you, thank you for educating everybody
on that, because those are some things that I did
not know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Real says Hey Karin and raj Rog. First of all,
AI is the ghetto. Who the fuck is Rod Moore Holland?
And when did you and Karen Hunter get married? Does
our Karen know about the marriage. Secondly, the voicemail left
for the mayor Brandon just made me cry. That's all
I got. I feel you. It's a lot, It's a lot,

(01:37:17):
mister Span, says Karen, my friend, My hairline has been
an unfortunate circumstance since nineteen eighty Oh no on behalf
of our receiving a half moon hairline holders. We resent
the implication that our hairlines lead to murder. I'm a
Paul perplexed, vexed and reclemped by your generalization. And I'm

(01:37:39):
missus Span, president of the Unfortunate Hairline of Lions call
on Karen Marl the Blackout Tips organization, the issue full
apology to all three of us. Thank you for your
attention on this matter. Seceirely, missus Span, Unfortunate hairline of
Lions Detroit chapter is the only chapter. But we're growing.
I mean, you do own a lot of guns. Person

(01:38:00):
that say they don't do murders. I don't know, so
with out the guns? Uh, Karen, do you want to apologize?

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
No, Okay, Karen just decided not to apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
I'm so sorry, mister span I'm sorry for the loss
of your hair. Like you know, it might be genetics,
like you know, I have nothing to do with that,
but you know, statistically what I'm seeing effects.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
You can't go and get facts. No, fellow legal ego
just Annie says, I think I pronounced it right. This
is a long way here we go, Hi, Roding. Karen
just wanted to share a few seemingly disjointed but loosely
related thoughts from a long time listener, but first time email.

(01:38:50):
The first major condolences Rod on the Jerry Duty fake out.
I know that stung. As a fellow true crime and
legal show addict, getting that Summers is like getting a
golden ticket only for Willy Walker. Say, actually, never mind
the tours full? Agreed, not the Tours full. I could
have been deciding somebody's fate. I could have been the
only means of justice for somebody, And look at me

(01:39:10):
home eating pecakes. You're out there ready to nerd out
legally speaking and drop some civically minded justice inspired by
all these courtroom shows, and then bam saying home as
if you are a palot on crack, they're lost. Your
story got me thinking about my own descendant to legal madness.
I'm pretty sure I was pating zero for Trumpet adjacent

(01:39:30):
trial de arrangement syndrome. It all started when I decided
to prep for Trump's Georgia Rico case by watching the
only other huge Fulton County Rico trial to young thrug trial.
I know I know what through slime and Rico charge
I have to do at forty seven, I thought they'd
never asked. I figured watching young thug cases like a
sneak peek at the DA's playbook. I was looking for
a well or machine, but instead I got a preview

(01:39:52):
of how not to run a case. Picture of this
is late spring twenty twenty four. Trump has just been
convicted in New York on those hush money charges, and
I'm thinking, Okay, the real fireworks are coming in Georgia
with that election in the feris Rico case. Let's just
say I got utterly obsess to the Young Thug trial
down in Fullton County because the same DA's office was
handling the Trump mess. Right. I know you didn't follow

(01:40:12):
closely followed the Young Thug trial. Smart choice. Honestly, it
was an addicting, never any parade of the most unintentionally
funny characters saying and doing the damnedest things on the
witness stand. Yeah. I chose not to because it felt
it was such a content gold mine and a lot
of the blogs that were following it and were talking
about it, or blogs I don't respect that often present

(01:40:34):
a lot of misinformation out there, and I can see that, right, Yeah,
And honestly, it didn't give me a lot of hope
for the for the Trump trial, not because I thought
Fanny was gonna fuck it up or whatever. I know
people disagree and think she fucked up, but whatever, that's
not I don't think the Fanny Willers thing was. I didn't.
I wasn't watching it because I was like, Man, Fanny

(01:40:56):
Willis is gonna fuck this trial up. I was just
watching because I was like every place I'm seeing information
about it is like content. It's not legal analysis. They're
not treating it seriously, and it's too funny for them
to treat seriously. So I just stayed away from it.
But I understood that people were getting a lot of
entertainment from it, and they did lose the case. It
scenes against at least Young Thug to some degree, So

(01:41:19):
you know, maybe that was the Canarian the colemar posibility.
I will stand on this point to the day I died.
This marathon of misery that was masquerading its justice might
have just been the most bonkers yet most consequential trial
in modern history. For me, it was a sneak piggy
to the DA's tainted playbook that ended up taking Trump's
Rico trial see Fanny Willis to Fulton County. DA had
the gust to go out the big fish and decide

(01:41:40):
to swing for the fences with the Rico chargers on
not one, not too, but at least three sets of
high profile to finish Young Thug and his crew, Trump
and his election medalers, plus other rappers in the count
county within the same year. She cast such a wide
net that it started to look like an overreach. Well,
what's interesting, I think Fanny Willis would say this too, because,
like I said, I haven't followed the case closely, but
a lot of these more for went to jail.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
They did a lot of them. Did they plead it
and everything?

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Yes? Yeah, And even with like young Thug, I believe
he pleaded and is currently on like super strict, super
double secret probation.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
I think it's because they didn't get a guilty conviction
and him going to prison and blah blah, like they
had to reach some level of compromise. Maybe that's why
people see it as a failure. Because I listened to
some audio of her defending you know, her herself and
her office, and I found it to be compelling. I

(01:42:35):
think it's only really like social media and content stakes
that turn it into like all or nothing. And if
you and I don't know that this was similar in
the Trump trial because she essentially got put on trial
because that dude that she was fucking It wasn't because
of the evidence being fucked up or not strong. And

(01:42:57):
then that you know, they basically dropped it when Trump
got elected. It was like, well, there's no need now
that we know this motherfucker's feldn to be president. It's
no need to keep this up. There's no punishment apparatus.
So that's what I thought happened. But maybe I've just
got bad information on that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
But that's what it appeared to be to me, because Yeah,
the second Trump got an office, it was like, the
fuck we're doing this for?

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
Yeah, And like you know, I guess in the ways
of knowing that the Trump people will constantly be looking
for a distraction because their client is guilty, I guess
you can say she should have expected that they would
even find out that she used to fuck this dude.
But to me, I'm like, I I actually don't find
that to be the big joker that people think it.
I bet that kind of shit happens all the time,

(01:43:38):
and it's just not a problem. No one's thought about it,
Like no one's got the lawyers to put that kind
of shit on as part of the trial or even
think that people would care. And ultimately I believe she
was like reprimanded for it, but not thrown out the
case or had the case dismissed for it, like it
was dismissed for other shit. But I could be wrong.
I didn't follow that that close. But DA's officers han't

(01:43:59):
explained while they were going so hard against Rapper while
having little evidence to use against them other than their
own First Amendment protect the lyrics. I mean, what's a
little drive by band to amost rival gang members? I digress.
They should have laser focused on Trump the smoking gun evidence,
and this his election interfairance case was undeniable. Those motherfuckers
fumble being able to present the court infamous phone call

(01:44:19):
with forty fives bagging gas Secretary of State to find
eleven seven hundred and eight votes. That's not subtle. That's
like robbing a bank while yelling your full name, of
social security number and the security camera. But nope, they
got bogged down Judge ugly all the cases and spread
their resource too thing to be effected. Yeah, if you
say so, I didn't follow that close, so I'll just
take your word for it. But I also do remember

(01:44:42):
a big part of her her thing was turning these
people underneath Trump into you know, people that would testify
against Trump, and it seemed like that was working.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Yeah, a lot of them went to jail, and still
in jail.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
It feels like a two mean Monday morning quarterback. And
like once this shit became about her fucking that Dale
dude and all that stuff. It just felt like people
turned on the whole thing. People thought she was the shit,
and then the second that she didn't get the stellar
results of one hundred percent convictions or everyone going to prison,
it was like, she don't know what she's doing. And

(01:45:16):
maybe that's true, but I just didn't get that vibe.
They did too much. Folks start whispering at their overreaching
with Young Thub. Maybe they're doing the same with Trump.
It turns the whole thing to a circus, not the
fun kind of clowns. Speaking of clowns, that's where the
hilarity kicked in with the Young Thug trial. I didn't
watch the whole slot, just turned in faithfully from June
post n Y conviction into Halloween, when that's a long time.

(01:45:37):
When Thug finally pled out, we're talking witnesses snitching in
the rids, lawyers fumbling like they're in the bad in
prou class, and the one dude on the stand literally
rapping his testimony. It was the funniest and the same
time satus court room saga ever considered the outcome. Every
time Trump shows us rump, I think myself if Fanny
Willis had just stepped aside with the style tactics, hit

(01:45:58):
resigned with humility the Neellen indictment, she could have about
out a hero and maybe we'd've seen Trump face real
heat in Georgia. Well, I think there's another thing you're
missing here. What about the people that did get convictions
against them, that are having them thrown out right now?
Letitia James got them convicted. The civil penalty was just
thrown out. I don't think I think you guys are

(01:46:21):
underestimating how big this Trump shit is. As far as
him being immune to the penalties. He was on trial
in several places by several different people. He was stalling
in each of them. But he was convicted in a
couple who was convicted in the civil lawsuit with the
sexual assault stuff or sexual rask and I forget the

(01:46:41):
exact time. Yeah, And then the justice system decided he
was above that. The companies, companies with resources like CBS
are paid him off and said, fuck it, we'll just
take the l won't. We will not. We will not
go to trial and defend our First Amendment for our
people that work here. I think it's just much much

(01:47:03):
bigger than Fanny Willis, and I just think that's the
place we've obsessed with turning it into like she fucked
this up, as opposed to like this man got off
in every single capacity that there's ability to get off,
and Fanny Willis's conviction or lack thereof. I don't think
change is a single thing. I would have liked to
live in a world where it would, but I don't

(01:47:24):
think her stepping down. I don't think any of this
changing shit. Because if I think if they had a
case like that and it was they were going to
hold him accountable, I don't think her being the person
is the thing that stops it. I really don't. I
think then she steps down, another person takes it up,
and then we go, okay, yeah, so he got convicted
because he did it, but that's not what happened. They went, Nah,

(01:47:46):
we don't need to look into this anymore. It's fine.
He's president now. But that's my you know, maybe I'm
being cynical. Let's see for context. The DA's office was
put on the defensive when Dan Willis had to playing
why such a prosecutor had saved her, had her saved
in his phone? As Gorilla Grip I remember that q's
Karen's Oh no, yeah, that Gorilla grip was hilarious. Munsel

(01:48:11):
wasted with her trying to defend her personal life. She
ended up for getting the real defend on trial was
democracy itself. I guess you can say that. I don't
know that I would apply that to her. I think
she stayed on point. I mean, it was a waste
of time and that was the point of making defend herself.
But I don't think she ever stopped focusing on Trump.
I don't think she ever even when she was there
on the trial, she was like, this is not about me,

(01:48:33):
this is about Trump. It's just we have decided that
it was not any longer.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Yeahs, Trump's Trump's defense whole thing, and it worked. They
just throwing shit at the wall to see what stick.
He did everybody right, and this just happened to stick.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
And I mean he did the same shit with Jack Smith,
Like I don't I don't know what to tell people,
man like this, the way he's playing at these c's
with these judges, the way that he okay.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
No, you make me think. I don't remember which case
it was, but one of them bitches. They ended up
saying Hey, bitch, you're not doing your job. This is illegal,
and she kept delaying to land.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
The land by Jacksmith the document's.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Trial, right, and so it's like, what can you do
against that? It don't matter what you do, what you say.
If the judge is determined that you can't do shit,
what can you do?

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
Yeah, I just think that the assumption is that justice
would win prevail. There's a way to get him. And
I'm saying we have at least four to five examples
and all had different results, but enough for us to
know that justice was not on the table. Meaning the
eging Caroline, he's convicted, he's convicted civilly. I can't remember

(01:49:42):
civil criminal. I think maybe civilly convicted. Okay, if a
news organization does a report and says he's convicted, he
sues them. The news organization goes, you're right, here's ten
million dollars, please leave us alone. We apologize. That's not justice.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
You know, that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
The fraud case the Leticia James won against him. She
won that case, y'all. Okay, he's a thirty fourth count convicted.
Felt she won the case. Judgment just the amount of
the penalty just got thrown out. Okay, didn't stop him
from being president either, Okay, Jack Smith, the lay tactics,

(01:50:28):
delay tactics, stars, delay tactics. No conviction there. And the
only thing we got for that is why didn't Marrit
Garland started even faster?

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Okay, There's always an excuse, there's always a reason that
no one's gonna step back and look at the big
tapestry and go, this man was simply beyond justice because
our system decided he was beyond justice, whether he's convicted
or not. And then of course Fanny Willson, she just
went over. That's how I'm looking at it from a
one thousand feet away, not in the minutia each case,

(01:50:58):
but it just I think this man was above justice
the entire time once he became president the first time.
I think the amount of judges he installed and stuff
and gummed up the legal works and a matter of ars,
and the amount of understanding that he has now about
how the system works, I just think he's beyond justice
and he can basically do whatever the fuck he wants
to do. And this was proof of it, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
And the Populist allowed it. They allowed it by by
ving it back.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
In anyway, And I think by concentrating on shit like this,
you know, like, oh, it's not it's Jack Smith's fault.
I don't know, man, motherfucker went two for four in
these trials and to face basically zero real penalties, probably
Richard than he's ever been in his life. I don't know, man.
Maybe I'm too cynical, but the hindsight is twenty twenty.

(01:51:50):
But man does his thing. We'll forget an epic rant.
I'm totally t a t d S and all over again.
Just typing this all that to say, rider, get your
jury envy nothing beasts front row seat to justice. Hey
caring his Rod's better half and the voice of reason
on SEW. I'm curious, do you dig legal drama too?
Or have you ever gotten hooked on a wild trial before?

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Not in a very very long time, Like it's literally
been years since I've actually sat down and watched a
lot of those trials. Maybe it's just me. I'm like,
let the legal system go through this process and I'm
here for the verdict most of the time.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
Yeah, if that type of thing interests you both, maybe
y'all could do a recurrence segment courtroom comedy Gold covid
caused a bunch of courts to embrace put in their
trials on YouTube. The trials are gold myn of zoom fails, accidental, unmused,
and witnesses spilling secrets at mid cat filter with materials
like the Young Thug saga. You have listeners cracking up
for days, keep tipping strong you too, just Annie, Thank

(01:52:49):
you Annie. I don't think I want to get into
it just because I'm not a legal eagle, like I
don't know enough stuff like that. And then also, like
I said, I don't want to get bogged into this
thing because I think part of what started, part of
the fallacy of these trials is that we buy into
the system of like, guilty people be guilty, innocent people
be innocent, and that's not just how people play the case.

(01:53:13):
So yeah, I don't know. I don't think I would
do that. But occasionally we do have videos that go
viral or something where we talk about like, oh, did
you see this dude who couldn't get the cat filter
off or whatever. But I don't think I would make
a whole segment out of it. All right, last thing,
no voicemails, but we did get something in the physical
mail this week. Yeah, I got the notification like you

(01:53:36):
got a package. Our mailing address, of course, is the
blackoutis dot com slash about. You can just go in
there and check, you know, check the mail or you know,
mail and stuff and whatnot. We also have an Amazon
wish list. We get stuff in the mail from that.
This one's from miss Barnes, I believe. Let me see.
She takes a letter to it inlop. Open up this.

(01:54:02):
I think it's a card. Open up this thing real,
quinn Ooh my hero academia. What's going on with this?
So my hero Academia card? Outside it says thank you
Ms Barnes. Inside has a type letter shout out to
saying I'm not gonna let it be in big as

(01:54:24):
a cursor. We appreciate you. Good morning riding, Karen. I'll
let you decide if you want to say this for
feedback short the nerd. I hope I was well in
the ride, Mulholland Careen Hunter Universe. I figured that I
would give you a break for my homemade cursive writing
and type out this letter. I was too excited that
you and Karen finally saw Predator killer killers and gave
your review not spoil anything, but that Duccen had a

(01:54:44):
recent new ending at it and I really was not
ready for it. I cannot wait for Predator bad Lands
when it comes out later this year, agreed. Since I
had saw Killers or Killers, I decided I was going
to go down the rabbit hole of Predator franchise and
discovered that these graphic novels have been out since the
late eighties. I was discovered that in addition to the
individual titles by Dark Horse Comics, there have been a

(01:55:06):
lot of crossovers such as Batman, Superman, Spider Man, Terminator,
even Archie. Yes, the Predator kicked it in Riverdale. So
while I'm on the hunt for these collections and crossovers,
I was at Galaxy Con and freaked out when I
saw the following crossover, and I'm gifting you and Karen
with it. I know it's not the usual format you're
used to, but I'm the biggest believer in always having
a number one. Thanks for allowing our Nerve Freak flag

(01:55:28):
to fly freely. Take care of miss Bars, thank you,
thank you. Let me see what's in this bag, then
try not to pull out my letter opening so I
don't know cut through or ripped some pages or some shit, right, Okay,
I think that got it. Okay, and there's some more

(01:55:53):
tape here. Okay, they won't be sure that thing was
it's cool little toe bag.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
Ooh.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
I like that bag, and inside is Predator versus Black Panther.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Whoa, I didn't know that was a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
I didn't know they did this. And it's a number
one too, oh, thank you shit number one. Now here's
the only problem with this. I read my comic books,
so I will be taking this ship out the plastic
to read it, so the hell out of it, you know.
And I've always been that way, like I've never been

(01:56:35):
a collector. Collector. Now, I don't put it back in
the plastic and put it on my shelf when I'm
done reading it. But I'm going to physically read this,
which I hope doesn't ruin the value too mad, too badly,
But yeah, I can't. I can't help it. I read
my books, you know. I shout out to my nerves
that got the discipline to buy two copies or not

(01:56:57):
read it at all or whatever the fuck. But that's
not why I got in this game. Okay, the boy
got in the game the detactile with it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
Okay, he did boxes and boxes of comics and his
parents attic.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
All right, y'all, that's it. Thanks for listening. We'll be back,
I know Tuesday. We have Kevin on stage for what
that should be fun. Yeah, yeah, Kevin on stage is coming.
And like I said throughout the week, you know, we
do shows as we as we can get to them
with with our schedules. So all right, y'all, thanks for listening,
and thank you mss Barnes for this comic book. This

(01:57:31):
is very nice, what a dope gift. So yeah, until
next time, I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
I love you too. W

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