3150: Successful Failure

Rod and Karen are joined by director, writer, actor, stand-up comedian, podcast host, and author with a new book coming out called “SUCCESSFUL FAILURE: Lessons Learned Flat on My Face”, KevOnStage to discuss his new book, taking an L, Drake, being a WNBA fan, fame, navigating an increasingly strange social media landscape, making a TV show, working with talented people, a woman dressed in a hotdog costume, a fake dentists and sword ratchetness.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I listen to the Black Guy You Tips podcast because
Rod and Karen are hot.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, welcome to another episode of the black Out to
this podcast. I'm your host Rod, joined as always by
my co host Karen, and we are live on a Tuesday,
ready to start some rush hour traffic podcasting. Wherever you're at,
If you're in the crowdcast listening live and whatnot, you

(00:38):
know you're getting to see who our guest is. You
got a little spoiler alert for the rest of y'all.
You gotta wait on the intro, or maybe you already
read the description later. Maybe I'm just getting too far
ahead of myself and all that stuff was unnecessary. Today's
guest is a director, writer, actor, stand up comedian, podcast host, husband, father,

(00:59):
and he has a new book coming out called Successful
Failure Lessons Learned Flat on My Face. It's friend of
the show, Kavan stage, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Baby? Nobody knows? You're like, we know you're Kevan what.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
My favorite of those was James Worthy, James Worthy saying
Kevean Stitch. I was like, now, brother, you've let a
lot of letters in there. You gotta you gotta choose
to get Karen from European seven.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Come on, stick, he's averaging brother.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Ain't nobody chasing you? You can you could take a
second to look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
He averaged seventeen points in Ukraine last year. Come on, stitch,
Karen does this thing with names because I promise you all, Karen,
she can't read as I can, and she can read well.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
But if it's a name, I don't know why I don't.
I don't know. And it doesn't have to be a
complicated name. It does not. It's not gonna get done right. Why.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's like as soon as you say like it can
be John McDonald and she she like free. I've seen
it happens, like her brain freezes halfway through, like I'm
gonna mess it up, and then it's like John John
Mickey Doo.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
There's nobody named Micky Doo in the world. I panic it.
I don't know why I can't get on. What up
mental hurdle?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well it's Kevin Fredericks of course, yes, man, What aren't
you doing right now?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Like you doing it all? I was gonna look up like.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
All your credits and I was like, honestly, I don't
think he ever stops. These aren't credits feel like things
you've done. I feel like you're just doing a bunch
of ship all the time.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Man, So what what what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
No?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Flex?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
No please yeah yeah flex yeah yeah. Let us know.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
These are just the facts as we speak. I've got
Friday Night Vibes on TBS airing every Friday, which basically,
you know, you watch a movie with me and Nina
Churchy is airing, is streaming now on BT Plus. The
Hospital is going to air on BT Linear starting September tenth.

(03:34):
My book Successful Failure is coming out September twenty third
Bald Brothers Tour begins September twenty seven in Saint Louis, Missouri.
And those are just the things that are announceable and
openly talking.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
You can tell us right, yes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
There's some deals that have closed and closing that I
don't want to preempt the press releases. But now it
feels crazy, man, I'm doing more podcasts than I've ever
done before. And I've been saying this because it's true.
This is media now. Like I've been telling people, like,
you know, we are all similar ages, you know, the

(04:18):
three of us. When we grew up, it was like
for black people it was like you got to get
on our sinio. It's our sinio. If you're a stand up.
Prior years, it was like you got to get on Carson.
It was Carson for a long time, where you got
to get on Comic View or Depth, Comedy Jam or whatever.
But to sell your stuff, it was either daytime TV,
you know, or late night TV. Like that's how movies

(04:39):
were promoted. And for us it was like you didn't
really get to see Eddie Murphy outside of either the
movie or the late night or daytime talk show gamut
to promote the movie. You didn't there was no other
place to see them outside of their like organized promo runs.
But now, man, you talk about like from y'all to

(05:00):
Joe Budden and even like late night And this is
no disrespect and I don't mean this disrespectfully. Like the
majority of the time that I see celebrity X on
whatever show I see it on social media, it's a
clip of that show. I'm not a TV I'm not
turning my TV on to watch Jimmy fallon at night. Right,

(05:22):
My homebies do his stand up all the time. I
only know about it because I follow them and they
post the stand up on their youtubeh or their Instagram.
I'm not like watching Tonight on Fall and we've got
Matt Damon, We've got you, just like those days are
not gone, but like they are not the same Jennifer

(05:42):
Hudson Hallway is. I want to do this experiment Jimmer
Hudson Hallway with them for real and not do the show.
And I guarantee you people will swear that I've done
the show, because if you've done the Hallway, you've done
the show.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Honestly, I don't think there's a show. I think it's
a hallway. I think people just disappear once they.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Once they go to the other side. I've never could
and go back home.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Because no one's ever shared an interview clip like they've
never been like, yo, did you know that Anthony Mackie
was homeless when he was ten?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
And I'm like, what where did you learn that? Did
J run? You can't see the interview?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
No, I'm zero people have heard that conversation before anything
could be happening back then. I don't think they interview
the people. I think they danced and they just walk
the hallway, just put the.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Remember and take them off in the vand we never
seen the people no more.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, some of these people been disappearing.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, we ain't seen him since.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Y'all, y'all, Okay, okay, who's seen Daniel Caluia?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Right, you see what I'm saying. He might have been
on the show.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
The upside down. Yeah, to get out into the hallway
is to get out in. This is me wanting, like
I want to get on the show. Like that's just
the way. So it's like, you know, I was, you know,
I was telling BT. I was like, bro, it's infinitely

(07:16):
more and I mean like impact, and I mean like, y'all,
if I come on your show and I say, hey,
you know black guy who tips audience, this is my book,
you guys actually have audience members who will actually listen
and say, oh, Roddy Karen said this is book, or
or you know, Kev's on their show. We had a
good time. I'm not even joking. I think if I

(07:40):
were to do you know, Rachel Ray show doesn't exist.
But I think I did that. I don't think. I
think it's a good look, but I don't I don't
think the actual like units moving because you know that
those shows are they're kind of on in the background
or whatever the case is. So I feel like there's
along with That's why I'm doing so much of these.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
On a on a deeper level, I think there's like
two levels to selling something and being famous or being
established as somebody, And on this one level, there's things
you do specifically because that's what people respect. It's not
necessarily that those things work, but it's like, oh, you
were on the Rachel ratio that kept doing it big, like.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
We've had regardless of what happens, regardless if you made
any money, regardless if you actually went into debt doing it,
they don't care.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
It's just just how it looks.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, we've had moments like that with the show where
like some it was a milestone in that it was
a flex but it wasn't like a pocket milestone. It
was like it was like, Okay, that's that's cool, I guess.
And if people were oh my god, it's like, I
don't even know how to tell you all this.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
This is not where we make the money or anything.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know, it's not so Yeah, And I know for
a fact, podcast listeners they are much more likely to buy,
I engage whatever with a podcast than anything anything on
TV or radio. That's more just like casting a wide
net on the radio, but like actual like, hey, we
have to go download this program to listen to.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
It, because you're taking an effort.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
And I think get the book.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
And I think for a lot of people, they have
to find so much bad stuff to actually get to
something that they like. So when they get to something
that they like and they like have like a full
investment in it, it makes a difference in the relationship.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Now, what's the book about. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
The book is it's my life story in the from
the lens of my losses versus my successes. I think
I've read a lot of it. Mars. It's like, here's
how I built this great company, Here's how I became
this person. And it is that. But it's like, here's
the ls that stacked up to make me become Kem

(09:55):
on stage, in business, in life, in comedy. It's not
just like, man, here's how and here's and you could
do it too. Like the most common thing we have
with each other is taking ls from sea to shining sea.
We take l's. But I think because of social media.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Except for Drake, except for Drake in that law that
battle with Kendrake, he will not take that l But
I don't know why he won't take it, but he
won't take it.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
You know what's funny about that? Rod all jokes aside.
If he would have just took it straight.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Everybody would have moved on, wouldn't be talking about it.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Push your Tea.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
He didn't even respond to push your te He had
his reasons. But after a while we he took that
l though, and he moved on and we.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Had other songs.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
We was like, right, but this one he's in the
black community. It's like, nobody likes the nigga that can't
take a joke. If we roasted and it gets to
you and you like, oh, nigga, what's up? You can't
whoop me? Okay, well this nigga's right now.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
You just became the worst person in the group.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Everybody gotta take a joke. If you get it, you
gotta take it. And I think the more it's like,
not only is he he's he's standing ten toes in it.
Who's aligning himself with As a result, he's like strayed
further and further away. Was like, well, nigga, weren't even.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Say all that, but now right, you really are not
like us. You all the way with that.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Now you went from they not like us too, they
don't like us, I don't think you like we don't.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Win to another territory.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
The diabolicalness of that is Kendrick's line, like your superpowers
are getting neutralized. It's it was almost prophetic.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
It was prophetic.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
It was it was prophetic because your stuff not working
no more. It's like Sherlock Holmes movie when he start
to see he seemed the like, right, jab like now
we can see.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Everybody likes everyone loves they not they not like they're
not like us. Everybody loves not like us. Yeah, Euphoria,
that's my one. That's gonna always be the one. I'm
not gonna say it's the only one, but like, I
can run that back, every single word of it in
any setting. If it comes on the gym, I'm going

(12:22):
to cardiac arrest. It is that to this day, and
I'm gonna die, I'm.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Gonna get it on my grave, on my tombstone. Is
that is that? Because no one's ever done that before.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
People have dissed each other before, no one's ever psychoanalyzed
someone to a point to where that person couldn't even
react in a way.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
To like play it off. Like it's like if.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Right now, if I was like, oh, cal can't take
a joke, the right thing to do to get me
is to laughing, Yes I can.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Ha ha ha.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's so blatant.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
He gave you a blueprint for like, just don't do
these things in response to this, and he.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Did every one of the things the checklist didn't he
oh my god.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
And Kendrick literally said, I can only watch the silence
and when I mean this man has.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Not said anything about Drake since, not like us m M.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
He just been winning Grammys off of it.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
He's not talking about the interviews, he's not putting out
extra Part Seven's like he's moved on.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
He don't tweet no more.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
He just tweets his music and move and it's like
kind of like Batman and the Joker. He Kendrick might
be the perfect foil for Drake. Yes, yes, because he's
not like he's skill wise, He's he's there, but like
what Drake desires out of rap, Hendrick loaths Yes, so

(13:43):
like he's not competing with you for cloud. He complimented,
you keep making me dance wave my hands like he's
the joker. He's like, I don't want to kill you,
like except he does. He probably want to kill you,
But the point is still the same. Like Hendrick, it
was more of like a disdain for you as a
human being.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
It was personal, and I don't think a lot of
people realize how personal it was because the whole time
people kept talk about us saying.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
No, no, no, no, you don't understand.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
But he don't like that, nig personal not personal, right,
That's what I'm saying. It's not personal in a like, man,
Drake did something to me and I'm gonna get him back.
It's personal in like what makes you a person? It's
some bullshit, that's that's. The things that you value are

(14:33):
the things that I think are destroying Black people.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
And whack Drake.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Walked right into it, cause he's like, you know, every
time you need to forget the lyrics, but every time
you didn't check cash, you go to Atlanta. So Drake's
life and then he goes to London and he was like,
London has the best rappers on earth, and it's like, right,
this is what we was.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
That's what he was saying. People like, right, they was
even confused, like wow, are you here right?

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Like we like our grime and you know, you know
what I'm saying, but like, bro, you y'all got jay
Z and nas and stuff like.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
That was like a month and a half ago, and
it's very telling that no beef has started between America
and London. It's very telling that everyone was like, he's tripping.
That's we're not We're not with him.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
It was Lucas and skept, yeah, I want to do
this like two hours.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
And y'all know it's bad when you're touring, in the
middle of a tour and you stop and just stopped
touring and it just never come back that three months
when he stopped, I was like, oh, he ain't never
coming back into y'all.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's never It's never been this bad.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
People have gotten killed in beef and we're not going
out this bad.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
They get more respect. That's Brake yesterday, do more.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Ain't that sad? Because child, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
He stopped in h Drake kencher Kine to Charlotte and
we was dancing like I'm sorry sir.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, man, so failure.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
You do know how to take an l and you
learn from you, but you're not just learning from them,
you're teaching from them.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yes, continue on, Yeah, I think man, honestly, I think
it makes me more relatable. It was also just a
different angle of a book. Like I not to say
it's boring, but like pretty much every memoir follows the
same formula, which is fine. I think as people we
like formulas as what we love about the movies. For
the most part, we wanted to end well extcepts on

(16:39):
Set Park, but book wise, I wanted to And it's
also just funnier As a comedian, it's funnier to tell
you the crazy stories dumb mistakes, because I want people
to know, like, not only did I make a lot
of dumb mistakes, making bad deals is what made me
make good deals. Being overly hype and people taking advantage

(17:01):
of that is what made me realize, if you'd be
too hyped, they're gonna take advantage of it. And also
a whole bunch of funny stuff just happened in my life,
like and it's a funny way to tell stories. Unfortunately
for me, the best version of the book is the
audiobook that doesn't count towards a New York TK bestseller
but it's cheaper for the audience and it's the better
way to experience the things. So if you got the

(17:21):
little credits or the eleven dollars, get the audio version. Brother,
I know times it's hard. I understand. Thirty thirty five dollars.
Everybody ain't got it for me, it was it's for dreamers,
you know, creatives to be inspired to learn from because
I'm gonna tell you my mistakes. But if nothing else,
if you just want some funny stories, it's got that too.

(17:42):
I got the story about you know when I do
do that myself. I got the story about Oh yeah, Karen,
I don't want to get into it, justmlmbling.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah. And it's happened to everybody at one point in time.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Were there any Were there any stories that, like, when
you came up with your first draft, you were like,
not that one, and then it still ended up coming
and it still ended up in the book.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Uh No, some of these I was I was holding back, Okay,
before I even got a book deal. I was like,
if I ever get a book, I'm gonna tell this story.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I didn't so you wanted to tell it at some point? Yeah, okay,
because I feel like if I had a book of
my biggest l's and send it to the editor, they'd
be like, you got bigger ls than this, And I'm like, God,
not that one.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
I legally I have to say this. I can't legally
say a person stole from me. I can just say
that the money was not properly accounted for and then
heavily infer what actually happened. Man, when that happened, I
remember being like, I would tell my friends and stuff,

(18:53):
but I was like, I can't just put this on
social media just for a random video. You got it
and I and also I wanted it to be like
if you're in the stage crew, I always because you know,
stage crew watches everything I do. They're in here right
now shots stage crew. But I wanted them to be like, boy,

(19:14):
Dan Kenain never talked about this before, Like, no matter
how long you've been in the stage crew, some of
these stories you have not heard because I purposely didn't
talk about them publicly. Uh So I wanted to leave
some stuff just in case, because you know, you got
to have a story to sell the book.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
After what happened with Hassim and naj too, where like
when he tried to do his last special and then
somebody like went and found the person even though he
had changed details.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I could see why you'd be like, let me let
me sell this.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Like before, Like, I don't know how crazy y'all gonna get, y'all,
but you know, hopefully this story.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
I don't like you said.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I don't want to say someone stole from me and
then I'm getting sued by the thief that you know,
I never said that.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
I didn't say stole. Yeah, I feel you on that.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah, what about the.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Podcast too, You're still you're still doing the podcast. You
didn't even mention that.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, here's the you mean, here's the thing? Yeah, yeah, man, listen,
let me tell you what we shot with here. Here's
the thing today. Angel Lakita Moore Tansley, the actress, is
a godsin if she was a mutant gb OL mega level.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, she's.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
She is a freaking monster when it comes to sit
down comedy, stand up wise as well. But she is
so freaking funny, and we play off each other. We
call ourselves the Unruly Cousins because we play off each
other so well. And honestly, if I can to my
own horn, probably my best skill is I can find

(20:48):
an amazing talent aligned with them and then just let
them rock. Angel I'd be like, this nigga is so funny, man,
she just sharing my friend in high school. She would
have been my nigga. Like I wouldn't even try to
holler at Angel. I would have been my nigga. Dapped
me up what you got like. She's a quintessential great homegirl.

(21:12):
And that's why the podcast works. Like there was a
time after my previous co host what I tried to
do it with myself, and I realized everybody's not gifted
in this solo podcast. Guy, it's certain people that he
did not give that to me. But Angel is great,
and you know it's a it's a.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Great y'all tour with that for like what last year before.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
That we tour with that, uh last year maybe last year? Yeah,
early last.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Year we did about stay with a job, bro, stay
you and Pedro Pascal.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
If you ever meet Pedro, you could be like, hey,
you need to get a couple more jobs.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
You get like me playing always doing my scout.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
But I know a movie script hate to see his coming.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
He getting that role.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
But I this ain't even made for ethnicity. Make it.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
At this point, when I watch a show and he
not on it, I'll be like, wait, let me double
check the let me go check the cast on im VP.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Because the last of us is a full lass white
man in that video game.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah he was. I wonder he.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I wonder he like fires his agent when he don't
get something like they got to be stressed.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Martin Luther King. You know, I don't even want to
do that.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
It was like I saw a I saw a movie
trailer today and I wasn't in it.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Can somebody explain what's done on what's happening?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
We just need to all hands on deck meeting because
there's no way I'm not supposed to be in caught
stealing like.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Award Man that I don't go.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I just need to hear the explanation. Was I not offered?
The part was like did they overlook me by accident?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Man?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Got all kind of schedule conflicts.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Also, I feel like as a sports fan, yeah, two
things are happening.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
One, I feel like I see you everywhere now.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I feel like I'll be like looking on on the
on the Instagram on the and I'd be like, keV
was that the game? Is this just I'm such a
big fan. I'm popping up every game I can go.
Or is it like secret cross promotion, like you a
certain famous level where they make you come show up?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Like what is it?

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Have you seen that that picture of Rob Low with
the NFL had on that to me with the WNBA,
I'm just hilarious, bro, think about me. I'm just all
in on any I'm either all in or all out
anything I do. And the truth about the w NBA,
for me, one the biggest problem with the w NBA

(23:45):
prior to Angel Reese and Kayln Clark, it was not
on TV like that, and.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
It was hard to find.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
It was hard to because I look for sports. I'm
watching the Birmingham Stallions in the summer or softball games.
I easily would have watched the w n B A
I used to watch it when I was in Seattle
because the Storm was the only good team in Seattle
for pretty much many years. If we wasn't getting no titles,

(24:12):
if the Storm didn't win them when Twue Bird was there.
But after I moved to La, like, the WNBA was
not on like that, and then when you know, Angel
Rees and Kaitlin Clark came in there and all of
a sudden the games are on or I'm looking for them,
like I'll even say I'm more aware and I had
the money to be like the league pastor whatever. So
it's the combination of that two.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
The w NBA games are cheaper than NBA game.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
They are, so yeah, we should have a sting here.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
I would love to sit courtside at a Lakers game.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
I don't have.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
I don't have go to Lakers games court side all
the time. When some ticket car they could get up,
they can get up to what cars are.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Like, yes, I believe.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah, w NBA game, I can sit court side. That
that's more of my And then the third thing is
I just be going. And the social teams, if they
are black, there's a high probability that they know me, like, hey,
do you want to be on and I you know,
I want my mug everywhere. I want you so like
I want people who block me to be like why

(25:17):
is he on my line?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yes? Hate more. I can't have nothing.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Get him he beat the algorithms, right.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
I can't have nothing.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I just want to watch the Connecticut son lose by
for it and here come just oh, come.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Like my my favorite thing that I've done, and I
just wish I could be a fly on the wall
or somebody who blocked me and checked their spectrum mail.
And my face is like, yes, gonna do not pay
your cable bill. I'm your mail. I'm inside your home,
I'm in your junk mail like I'm on Billboard. So
now you I want you to be so annoyed.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I don't even have I don't even have Spectrum, which
maybe that's why we get well, honestly, I feel like
not having it. I see your face more because they
be sending me mail every day like it's kel on stage.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Sure, I see them all, see them all same time tomorrow.
Hey you know Tony Bakery, come on, man to the
whole we be saying, the whole crew.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, you're trying to get me. So you've been going
to these games. But also wwe I feel like I
see you there, like you be out outside.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
I love a good live sporting event. It's a cool
thing for my family. My kids love it. And the
thing is, I'm gonna capitalize on my face. I will
you got you they are And now the thing is,
and this is I hate to say this, It's so
true though. The more money you make, the more people
want to give you things for free. Now things that

(26:56):
I got paid I had to pay for now Netflix,
they'd be like, hey, do you want to come to
raw like when they did the thing, and I was like, absolutely,
be our guest. I'm seeing parts of the stadium I've
never seen before. I was like, what this stuff is
in the I never even to the back door. They
got hot dogs down there. I was in a part

(27:17):
of the stadium in Vegas didn't even know existed. They
have huge TVs and Prime rip down there.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
I'm absolutely capitalized, Like it's a good little exchange. You
give me tickets, it's something free or free and fun
for my family to I capitalize on it. WNBA specifically,
they are good. Getting listened my homeboy hit hit me
and he was like, all right, cav be for real
with me. Are you just like trying to do something?
Are you? I said, Bro, I'm not even joking. These

(27:49):
are good games as.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
All fan, as a basketball fan, the great games.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Off fan I've had, I've seen infinitely more good w
NBA games than NBA games. Yeah, and I mean that
for real. The NBA. If you're a fan, we all
know they don't really turn it on unless it's post
All Star break, right, you might get a good game
here or there or the Commission Commissioners Cup whatever it's called. Yeah,

(28:15):
but early in October, November, December, they're not playing that hard,
right them w NBA games, it's.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Like every game camp.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Because they're playing forty of them.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
There's not a city team. So there's the talent is
these people got three or four people who really can hoop. Yes,
it's a very fast, very physical game. So I really
like enjoy watching it on the strength of like really
liking basketball.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Right, yeah, we started. I started being a fan through
the college game first because because men's college basketball, because
everybody was going pro so fast, and it's like can
you get to do Kentucky or whatever? Like that was
the whole thing, and it was like, oh god, okay,
so I don't even know who these dudes are anymore,

(29:02):
and so right, and so the women's game, they have
to stay three years, you know.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Fortunately a lot.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Of them get more degrees because they have to stay
that long.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Fortunately, and unfortunately, you know, it's good and bad to that.
But with n I l it is more good than
it used to be. But you get to have a
whole story with Caitlyn Clark and Angel Rees and Brittany
like Brittany Grinder, all these like these are names that
we just watched come o years, so.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
I do walking. I remember talking about her in high
school's Next Up Sarah Strong at Yukon. She had an
amazing freshman season, like bro, you got you get to
see her for three more years.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
We saw Page Becker's like career, get deep, get derailed,
back on the rails, and then moving to w NBA.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
That's a story I'm gonna follow for her whole career.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
So that's one of the reasons w n B A
I think is really peaking is because of college to
the pro. But I will say, man, keV, I'm glad
you're here in person because I feel like we can
have honest conversations now. Uh, because I feel like I'm
scared on the of the w NBA Twitter people they

(30:15):
don't they.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Are fighting a battle.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'm not fighting, and I don't know which side people
be on, and they just be jumping on me and
I'm just making like normal observations like I'm not I'm
not a hot take.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Guy.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
I'm not a you know, lead Kelly.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I'm not one of the people I'll be like, oh wow,
I can't believe Kaylyn Clark had twenty to night and
then be like, oh, she should have had forty. And
then the other people be like twenty oh with the slaves,
and I'm like, I just I just want to talk
to some It just.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Be so extreme. I just keep my opinion to myself.
Do you ever feel this pressure with the WNBA fans
or are they being cool with you? No?

Speaker 4 (30:52):
No, no, they don't be cool with me. I love Angela.
You cannot mention either Caitlyn Clark or angel Reese.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Got to fight.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Find it now. Paige Beckers is entering that conversation. Anything
you see, you could be Ben Page had thirty and ten.
He doesn't give Kaitlyn Clark the same supporters.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Pay what how did we get here? It happened to
me today.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I said, man, you know, I remember, like a while,
like the beginning of the season, everybody was like, if
angel Reason wants people to talk about her as a
basketball player not a celebrity.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
She needs to work on some things.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
I was like, she worked on things I haven't seen
anyone talk. We're getting late in the season, the talking
y'all aren't talking about her, and you can say.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well, she's on the nine win team, so is Page Beckers.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
We talk about her because she's playing great on a
bad team. Angel playing great on a bad team. After
y'all said she was gonna be out the league.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
She couldn't do this. She needs to hold up her
end of the bargain.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I somebody immediately the Kaitlin Clark this and the absolutely
I said, oh my god, y'all don't even love basketball.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Bro, And it ain't even just them to you talk
aboutel Wilson, then it's like the Feasta Colliers, the MVP,
it's her or uh at should be the m v
P it's And I think there's a the some of
the w NBA fans were like, it's kind of like

(32:28):
you've been a fan of an indie band before they
went mainstream. So there's like a very much like get
out of here. This is our thing being ruined by
all y'all people who don't follow the sport, which I
could feel you to honor something for anybody else was however,
if you want these ladies to get.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Paid, right, to get paid and they fit to gone this.
They're gonna have to go on this the strike.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Do they should?

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Absolutely, They're gonna have.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
To perfect time. It's a perfect time.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I think it's like Tober or something like that, that
the deal is up.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
All this money and y'all signing deals and what we
getting a half of a penny a quarter of the percentage?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
No, mam, Yeah, they fail to go on this strike,
I hate to tell you because they would be they'd
be crazy, not.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Too absolutely, And I think it's gonna be good for unfortunately,
if they strike for real, it's gonna be great for unrivals.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
That's that's why though I said this U a year ago,
maybe two years on our sports podcast, I was like,
I don't know if people peeping this because everyone's like
unrivaled rival.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
I was like, unrivaled might.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Be the thing that gives you a financial way to
survive a extended lockout, because that ain't in w NBA
money at all. That's just players' money and that and
you can now know it's the best players. But I
can't think of a more community minded group of athletes
than the w n b A. They not gonna be

(33:52):
out here where one of them is on the yacht
and the other one is on the undeployment line.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
They're gonna be hooking each other up, like they not
ready for this, right, they should just go.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Ahead and give them what they want and keep the games,
because I really don't think these are the people that
was doing black Lives matter before it was black lives
matter for everyone else.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
They always the first to strike activate activism. They don't
and and you they got Kayln Clark in the pay
of shirts. They're like, hey, listen, girl, let me tell
you what you ain't gonna do.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah, y'all, we were all trying to get paid. The
own the owner.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
I want to say it was with Atlanta, one of
the teams.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, they got her off the team. Yeah, it was Maga.
Yeah the team, Like, you gotta stop owning the team.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
That wasn't You got cot being racist and talking bad
about Magic Johnson. We're gonna have a trial and then
we're gonna vote. That was just players being like, if
you want us to keep playing, it's best you don't
have this team.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
And they won. That's like it's yeah, man, they built different.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
So I like I saw people kind of advising what
they should shouldn't. I was like, I don't have any advice.
I'm not as real as them.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
They got there about that life.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I would break way faster than them, Like I want
to know. Everybody's like, yeah, they you know you can
give them. They don't need your your health or whatever.
They just need to learn how to do.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
They don't need to learn shit.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
They straight up could be like ladies, snap, we're walking out,
and I would be the one like we we're not
gonna We're just walking out. We're not gonna talk to
them a little bit. So yeah, they much more real
than me. Man, How is how has it been with Churchy? Man?
Because I feel like we talked to you last time
when it was kind of like the inception of an
idea of a thing that might happen, and now you're

(35:36):
on season two on the b E T.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
What was the last time we talked? Was that?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I don't want to say it was like two years ago? Yeah, yeah,
because I don't think it came on last year. Yeah,
I don't think. Yeah, it wasn't last year.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
It was. It's low key, man, It's surreal. It is
probably the best word I can use because I dreamt
of being on Tea TV in movies. I never dreamt
that it would be my show, like I just wanted
to be like it was a show like Martin, I

(36:09):
want to be on that show or you know, Home Improvement.
I never thought a show I created would be on
a network show, and then on top of that, to
be churchy like a church based show. There was no
example of this outside of a man. You know what
I'm saying, Amen, So I didn't really think it was

(36:29):
even really possible, to be honest. So the fact that
it's not only possible that we have a second season,
and by all accounts, most people agree the second season
is infinitely better than the first, which I would agree
with as well. I don't take it as a slight
when people say that, No.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
That's literally how it's supposed to happen.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yes, that's why you need more than one season to
do things, so people grow figure out what their position
is and actually get better at their.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Craft working on game theory.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
I remember, like season one, we were still we were
still learning so much stuff. But then when we got
there for season two, I was like a veteran writer
up in that bitch. I was like, oh no, I
think what we need to do is take out that
and we and like, that's not knowledge I could have
even had or confidence I would have had season one.
And to me, season two is better than season one

(37:20):
because it's supposed to be shit. We be looking at
season one like if we would have known.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, you only know what you know. It's like somebody,
what's his favorite movie that he's done. He said, he
doesn't even see them like that because everything he did
that was the best thing he could do at the time,
like Fruit Valor good as a movie he could make
when he made it. And so was Creed and Creed two, Black,
Chapter one and two and then it or not. I

(37:47):
don't think he did two, but I think he did
Centers and no he didn't he did. Maybe he didn't
do Creed two.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, I think he did. Yeah, I know what you're saying. No, yeah,
he definitely did create one.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I don't remember what to do.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, Centers, Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah. So, And I think that's how Churchy is. Like
if I look back, I used to kind of get
embarrassed at the old stuff I made, but then I've
just kind of switched my perspectives. In five man, I
only knew what I knew, you know, and I had
only had the resources that I had I didn't have,
you know, Like for example, this season to a Churchie
the BT EXECU, the creative exec we had. She has

(38:25):
history twenty thirty years in the game in TV, She's
made a lot of TV. Her notes are more valuable
than somebody else who has zero experience or Churchie was
their first experience. So and now season three, we could
take everything we learned from season three and make that better.
But I think it's truly a blessing to even get

(38:46):
a season two. Yes, I really hope we get a
season three because a lot of Black shows to get
them first two seasons and they yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Like and that's the d I got it.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
We met the quote and everybody class we always do
two seasons because everybody think you just do one, but
that's racist.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
You do two season. They can't check it off.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
And you got the thing because that that that feels
like every Black show just about ever is well, at
least in the last five to six years for like
every Black shows like oh the show's coming out, boom,
oh they getting season two okay, and then it be
like canceled like damn.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
And so many of them deserve a season three.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yes, I would say it's kind of a gift to me,
Like now that I've worked in that field, it's such
a gift when they do tell you we're not renewing you,
and then you get to make your whole story, like
you can finish your story as opposed to like that
you turn in season two and then five seconds after

(39:43):
you turn it in, there like, oh, can we talk
to you?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah it's no season You're like, oh, you knew that.
You knew that that.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
I would it completely different and tied some ends up.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I could have did a flash forward or some ship
like now people just out there mad, I'm mad, you know,
s up, But I'm I'm happy for you.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Man, that's always cool to see you.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Uh yeah, man, s like genuine good dude.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
You know, yeah, we talk about you, and I'd be like,
I'd be like that is a good dude.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Like genuine good dude. People that work with.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
You know you're bothering nobody, right, Yeah, Man, I be
at home.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
I don't I don't be in no stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Is it hard to stay out of stuff now with
like social media? Or is it is like an old hat?
Now you just you don't figure it out because I
feel and the reason I say is it hard because
I feel like people are now getting mad at more
and more ridiculous shit and stuff like like the cracker
Barrel logo. There's no way anyone.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Could have seen that coming.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Like when people are like, why did the company not,
I'm like they might have said, oh, people are gonna
get mad at the minimalism. No one was like, our
stock's gonna tank twenty.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Nobody was like they gonna get mad because we took
the cracker out of cracker barrel.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
They was like, whoa whoever did that got fired? That's why,
Like it was a it was a person that's like, hey, god,
I like them. I see what y'all trying to do
it the logo, but y'all don't think that's a little,
you know, little woke. And they were like, you're fucking
fired your fucking fight. Are you insane? It's woke to
take a cartoon man and a barrel off of words.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
You're fired. You don't know what the fuck you're talking
about trying to save the stocks.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
And then I know he's somewhere sipping tea, right, Like
I tried to tell him that you can't take the
white man off the crack. It's probably a black person,
probably not even a racist. It'll probably you can't take
that white man. They like that, right, He was like,
that's why they come.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
They need that for some reason. Do I know the
reason they need it? They need it? And they was
like you got that go.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
So in this world where cracker barrel stock tank twenty percent, do.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
You ever be like about supposed to video, Like.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Oh, I don't okay, they probably will be okay, Loki.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
So much more of my stuff has become I don't know,
like I thank god for people who are tweeting prompts
out on Twitter and threads, because I've been like shifting
more and more of my content away from celebrities, away
from serious stuff to like the thing about fried Blona. Yes,
like there's no fried baloney brigade. Who's gonna be like

(42:22):
cold baloney? This is the only.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Way, like Askar Mayo weena nothing.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I've been like my wife was like, you kind of
got a chill on this celebrity stuff. I mean, most
of time, if I discussed celebrity news or anything like that,
it's in podcast form and that usually is less likely
to gain traction because it's usually mostly my audience. If
I'm doing a short form thing, it has a higher
chance of becoming a thing. But yeah, I I to

(42:48):
answer your question. I I don't this old deacon who
got when I first started getting bigger, even just in Takoma,
and it wasn't like, like start doing comedy. He will like,
let me tell you what you do? Care because I
know I want you to be on the Tiger Woods.
You understand me. When you go to you got to
go out of thew and you do that stand up
comany You're gonna go from that airport to that hotel,
that hotel Vineoard is how he pronounced it. You go

(43:13):
down to that vinyard. Okay. Now you do your comedy show,
you go back to that hotel and you go back
to the airport. Okay. Now, Tiger Woods was fine until
he let that white woman come and mess up everything.
He never recovering. I don't want that for you. You
don't be back in that green room with nobody. Don't
let nobody down there and low. He just really adopted that. Yeah,
that motto, that model is like brouh. I tell people

(43:36):
all the time, not only do. I love my wife
and she's amazing and speaks into me. I'm tired after
a show.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
It takes a lot out of you.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
I don't want I couldn't the thought of calling somebody
else like, yeah, I'm done with her, and the hell
you do? I got enough energy to do my show,
checking with my wife, eat my little TwixT ice cream
bar from the gift shop, and go to bed because
I gotta get up by the next morning. And it's
also just I feel like I don't have a lot

(44:10):
of wasted energy, like I'm able to be created because
I'm not wasting energy. Lying takes more energy, Yes, smuggling
two or three people takes more energy. You don't ever
have to worry about seeing me in the lobby of
a hotel with somebody who's not on tour with me
or not related to me. And I think, just in
this current climate, people who want a person they control.

(44:31):
I'm not even saying I'm a perfect person, but I'm
not like cheating on my wife. And the thing is
I always get praised for that. It's really amazing. It
also doesn't cheat on me. Nobody ever is like you, listen,
how don't you cheat on.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Cal that's the bar. But that's how that's more of
an indictment.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
On the brand of men TM than is right. Like
you like when people like you're a wife guy, I'm like,
shouldn't all the husbands and the definitely shouldn't. Shouldn't you
won't do what as opposed to what other kind of
married man would I be?

Speaker 3 (45:07):
You're a mistress guy? Okay, all right, all right, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
See it before, but yeah, but yeah, it is a
waste of time and energy.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
And prior to even being married, I wasn't even a
cheat on you guy in high school. Like that just
never was my bag. I just I just felt like
I couldn't do that. And again it's that big of
a deal. It's just like you said, comics really be
like dang you really Okay, I heard about it, but
you really don't cheat? I thought people was just saying that.
I'm like, nah, man, don't be in my green room.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
I'm soo l Like Also, I'm scared. I'm a scary person.
I'm scared.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I don't want to do I don't want to meet
a lot of new people now. I don't want to
go to a lot of new places, like going to
places where I know it's gonna be like already, I'm like,
oh that's nice.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I don't really, you know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I don't like being placed with a bunch of strangers
or people just pulling out like all kinds of items
when just like I don't even know how to do cocaine.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
That's just a felay, like why am I here?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yeah, that's a feeling you I would get for no reason.
I'm not even getting enjoyment from the drugs, and you
just did that in my fucking face.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
So yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
When I was working, when I was in New York
that people would be like, man, I don't see you out.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
I'm like, cause I don't be out.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I go to work right for the show, come home,
do my podcast long distance, and then I go to sleep.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Like that's that's it.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
It's an easy gig. Yeah, I don't have to worry
about a whole bunch of stuff. So yes, it works
for me, it works for all parties involved.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
And I think also like finding a way to still
do content. But but because now you getting to that
point where you're gonna see these people, so like, you know,
I still have the luxury of saying my full thoughts
and being like, I ain't running in the Snoop Dogg,
but you don't.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Right, might be walking down the street and walking into
that man.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
I ran in the Snoop Dogg yesterday, see and I
was on Twitter Colum and see the Lawrence Tucker.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
He would have been like, can I talk to you, nephew?
And then I don't know what would have happened to me,
Like it was jokes. It's funny because remember she was
she was like you resting the kids up? Okay, you
don't get the joke.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Hey, Cam, what was that thing? That one thing that
made you realize that I am famous?

Speaker 4 (47:28):
You know what it's when like using my name and
content negatively your video did better. Like I've got dragged
on the Internet a myriad of times for variety of things.
And I remember one time I was looking at a
person's YouTube. Now go and just block the page, but

(47:51):
I was looking at their page and I was like
they had went after t I and Lauren London, like
when a whole bunch of celebrities had went after but
on YouTube. It was like their on stage videos did better,
so they did more on me. They were reaching further wow,
And I was like, oh my god, my personal life
is content. People go after me on TikTok all the time.

(48:12):
I checked their profile before I block them, right, and
they be doing well, And I was like, that's crazy,
Like I thought, I recognize you.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, wow, that's not the pouring. That's not the pouring
over out of your cup that you thought.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
What's gonna happen y'all benefiting.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
My greatest mistake was thinking like I wanted to be
a household name. It never dawned on me that when
your household name, all those houses don't like you, Right, Yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
That's crazy. I will say for me it is. It's
a good red flag. It's a good heads up.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
When people don't like you.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
I'm not gonna lie whenever I'm like so yeah, whenever
that someone's like, oh man, I hate Kem on stage,
I'm like, cool, don't.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Have to pay attention to you. That means I almost
be like you're not a good person.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
I'll be like, yeah, okay, you definitely not my type
of person. You are not like that.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
The worst case scenario should be you don't feel away
at all. That's the word like he don't really give
you much the hate. You gotta like be a I
need some hate type of person to be like goddamn
Kevil on stage talking my fare baloney again.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
This was wrong with things. You want to burn everything down.
There's something wrong internally with just one the troops in.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
DC, and it really is like I really had to
settle with that because I was I'm like, man, I
don't be even really taking strong stances on a lot
of things if it's not like black issues. I don't
take a lot of strong My content is silly and wholesome.

(49:50):
But some niggas don't like silly or wholesome. Yeah, you
ain't from the streets nigga like. I like hood comedy.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Okay, it out there right.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
And I had to accept that some people don't like wholesome.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Which is funny though to be like, I like hood comedy.
It's comedy. You're laughing, guys, it's not it's not. It's
not really a rivalry at all if you think about it.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
I laugh harder at other things than this. Okay, all right,
thank you. Don't find them things and make you happy.
I do want to ask you, literally, I do want
to ask you.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
I feel like we would be remiss not to where
are you atting your anime journey right now?

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Because I've been enjoying.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
The anime fellow animes. Yeah, I've been enjoying your anime journey.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
You talk about it, Yeah, you're begetting to some of
them classics. I'd be like, oh, yes, here's where I'm at.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
I'm glad you guys asked that I'm watching JoJo's Bizarre Adventures.
I'm on the third season. It's not a show that
some shows get a lot of videos out of me.
Yeahs ain't that. I'm just watching it and I'm just like,
I only make the videos when I'm inspired to make that.
I just and that show like I made a few tweets,

(51:04):
but it ain't got a video out of me.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
It's too crazy Jojo everywhere.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Jojo is already crazier than you can make fun of
it for being. Yeah, whatever you imagine, Jojo goes over
the top.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I was. There was a season where Jojsy was the
ultro song.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
I was just like, yes, but for no reason, and
it slapped.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
To every single time every single anime would go on,
and then you would here every time I closed my eyes,
he'd be like, this is an anime. I was like,
oh God, the whole damn song, y'all get it, no.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Notes, And I loved that. Like after season two they
were just like, man, Harmoni is dumb. We got Stands now.
Ye totally changed the whole thing about the show with
no warning.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Right.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
But it also made me feel crazy because I was like,
but no, the last time, what that wasn't.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
It was a lot.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
But then the stand was like Okay, well home On
is out?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Yeah yeah nah yeah, Stands is better.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Stands is way better. But I think when I finished this,
I'll probably go back to One Piece. I'm probably going
to Arker two and then a show long journey.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah, I've never I saw you say one Piece.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
I said, oh, man, videos like the five year journey.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
The videos are and I'm not gonna even try and
like blow through it because then you're just I feel
like I would just be watching to watch, like once
I get tired of it, I'm just taking a break
and watch something new, get the get the excitement up again. Uh.
But one Piece will generate some videos.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
They people love one Piece. Hey, do you go to
the theater and see any of these anime movies?

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Because we've been going to see some of these, but
they're more current series than like that.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
I haven't been yet. I saw I think Demon Slayer
had a movie, yeah, but I haven't watched that one yet.
I can see myself doing it. I kinda I gotta.
Once I get done with an Arker two or one piece,
I'll switched to something else. But it's also like I
already felt like there was too many things to watch
on TV when I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yeah, then you add anime, it's a whole nother thing.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Yeah, and other things that I still want to watch,
Like I like last King of the Mayor of Kingstown, right,
I was just watching the SEC version of Hard Knocks.
So it's just like it's impossible to catch up with
all this stuff. There's just no anime that somebody ain't seen.
It don't matter what.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
It is, and fa Yeah, I'm not trying to rush anymore.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
I'm just enjoying it as I go along, and it's
better for me that way.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
All Right, Let's let's play a game. Okay, cool, Then
we're gonna get you out of here. We're gonna play
a game.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
It's a little game we called Guest the Race.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Before you do this can. I tell y'all, I wanted
to steal this from y'all so bad, this idea, it's
so good. When we did this last time, I said,
this is a brilliant If I didn't know them well,
and absolutely I would go the founder on y'all.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
That's how That's how I knew you was a stand
up guy, because like you, you told me that that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
You told me that, and then you didn't steal it,
And I said, that's a good man. If this would
have been Diddy, you would have been in court right now,
you know, right, like, can we just get the rods
from the stuff?

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Like, yeah, I love this.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Well, it has its.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Own theme, songeal it from you?

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah, Oh they have They have tried. They have tried,
uh some of them. Some of them name it, they
name it different things. Some of them you know, we
just don't. We just don't acknowledge them.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
But to steal it.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yeah, and you can't steal the sauce, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
You gotta you gotta gotta get the you gotta get
it cooked just right. So yeah, it does have a
theme song. Let me pull up the theme is real quick.
Oh my god, where did I put it. No, that's
the long version.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
That's short, that's the trying to find the right version.
There we go. No, wait, I still hit the wrong button.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Son of a bitch, I said, You've about to take
us to a whole another segment.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Listen, guys, I've been smoking a little something. All right,
Guess the race.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
It's time to catch the race. It's time. It's time
to catch the race. It's time to catch the race.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
All right, guys, Guess the race and go around the
globe finding her articles. Guess the race of the people involved.
Karen is a contestant, I am as always. Kevin on
stage is a contestant, and the chat room plays along.
And all these people, as you will soon see, are
probably racist. One dressed in a hot dog costume busted

(56:03):
for toilet paper caper. Oh a drunken drunk, Oh my god,
drunk and angry that a neighbor partnered her yard. Marsha
Morgan forty eight covered the offending vehicle with toilet paper,
So you know they do that sometimes the vandalize.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Expensive toilet paper. Is that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
We don't know what plotcar, Okay, we don't know what
it could be dollar store good question.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
She also did it while dressed in a hot dog
costume at four pm in the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Oh yeah, I just pictured that. I think you should
leave sketch with.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yes, we crashed the car, the hot dog car, into
the building and came out a hot dog outfit.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
She was busted Monday afternoon and charged with disorderly conduct
and resisting arrest. The cops noted that she was intoxicated
and refused to cooperate with the investigation. Investigation, she's holding
toilet paper and wearing a hot dog costume, and for you, I.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Think you guys got her. I think that was the
whole investigation.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
On Tuesday, she pleaded no contest the misdemeanor counts and
was adjusted to guilty of the charges. She was fined
five hundred and fifty dollars, which she can work off
via community service at thirteen dollars an hour, and they
offered no explanation while she was dressed as a hot
dog during the toilet paper vandalism, which took place outside

(57:35):
of her rented Saint Petersburg home. Karen guests the Race
of Marsha Morgan.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
I'm gonna go white, all right, Kevi on stage.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
Saint Petersburg is Florida, right, it is. People don't really
be dressing up in hot dog costumes, Damn unless you
no one's ever made that point before. That's what we
don't do. We don't do hot dog costumes. Now we
do Disney characters, Spider Man, Marvel for the kid's birthdays.
And that's my favorite content, knowing it's a black person

(58:07):
up under the costumes. Yes, we don't use differ into foods.
It's the mostly actual characters. I love to see Chucky
Cheese doing the dougie like.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
I like Ellen Elephant.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Buzz doing with them fans at dance. Yet to costume
and then tping is also a very white thing. Yes,
black problem king that if they go to p W
I s I Auburn University Toomors Corner. But that's not a.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Thing, ain't you know?

Speaker 5 (58:38):
See most people gonna be thinking, like me, you're wasting
to on the paper.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Also when black, when black people go TP, we're talking
watching Tyler Perry.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
We're talking Tyler Perry. Martha not a heavily black name
except Marsha Ambrosious, but she's in it. I believe, uh,
And then I believe Marshall, Warlock or something from the field, yep, field.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Do you need to know? How? Do you want to
know how they spell it? Oh? Yeah, m A R
C I A Morgan m O r G A N.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
See that's definitely not a. That's of regular spelling of Marshall.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Yeah, no, no, no weird vowels. Yeah no. I appreciate
all this racial deduction that you're doing. I appreciate this.
You really took the game serious.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Yeah, I'm trying to make sure I'm gonna go white,
all right.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
The chat room. Uh, there's so many of you guys.
I'm just gonna read the ones I see on my screen. Cuban,
I'm going with a shaky, shaky white black folks at
p W. I ain't wasting no toilet paper. Okay, So
that's just a retort.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
White Cuban, white like the rum she smelled like, Buttenix.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Smells like hot dog water white, white, white meet no buns?
Well he ta okay, all right, attacker, Well the correct answer,
Karen and Karen Kevin, you got it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
She was white?

Speaker 7 (01:00:15):
Yeah, yeah, and this is what she looked like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
And some of you did miss it, so I have
to boo you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
But Yeah, that's Marsha Morgan right there. She doesn't look sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
And I do wonder if they zoom out, if we
would see the rest of the hot dog costume, because
I do want to see what the hot dog costume.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
And straight out of see Pete.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
All right, Karen, you're off the screen. Oh you're back.
I'll see thank you. All right, let's go to the
next one. We'll go with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Fake dentists used nail glue to attach veneers?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Is that that little boy we kept seeing every other
year that kept getting arrested for being a dentists?

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Love? He back on the scene again. This is how
we found out he back?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yes, he's like no is now that was that was
a medical doctor. I do teeth now I'm a dennist.
I still gotta go jail, Yes you do. A Florida
woman is accused of performing dentistry without a license and
in certain veneers on patients who subsequently had to have
emergency surgery.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
What kind of venias does she put this cement? What
is we doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Emily Martinez, thirty five, faces at least four counts of
practicing dentistry without a license in two counties in the
Sunshine state Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Two counties. Yeah, like did she have multiple? I guess
if you lying, like, yeah, I got two officers. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Where you stay at, that's that's what I mean. My
teeth worked on where you at, I'll come to you.
She allegedly advertised on social media under the name It's
the Veneer Lady.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Oh no, man, oh no, y'all go ahead and pay
full price for the veneers and quit messing around everything.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Everything can't be barking little prices.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
You know, our country is down bad because there's people
that get their news from Instagram. But I didn't think
there was people that get their teeth from Instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
That's that's a lot dog. So she would insert.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
She said she would insert the Veneers for a dramatically
cheaper price than the going rate.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
Of course, because she she ain't qualified.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
In one case, she incorrectly put in veneers, causing the
patient pain and injury. A real Dennis had to perform
emergency dental surgery to save her natural teeth and discovered
that Martinez allegedly had used nail glue to insert the veneers.
I can see how you make that mistake, Like you
not a doctor already nail blue teeth glue like nails teeth.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
They kind of the same. You know, worst case scenario,
this person goes and.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Merge my safe nail for your nails and nails for
like a roof.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Nail, okay, fingernails. I'm guessing right, because there's no such
thing as nail glue. That a nail makes things stick
to it, that's true. I like that you thought that
that was a possibility.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
I was like, I was like, if a roofer make
a mistake, just put some glue on it. What is
he doing?

Speaker 7 (01:03:35):
Now? We can fix this bad ball up. This nail
isn't working, Bosston. It's like the nail is going in,
but it's not making nothing else stick to it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Do we have some glue? We got some glue, so
these shingles to lay down.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
She presented herself as a licensed professional, but later they
learned out learned she had no certificate and other fa
In another case, a victims of her ongoing consequences from
the work that was sixteen hundred sixteen hundred dollars, but
the veneers kept falling off, so the defendant tried putting

(01:04:14):
them back in on two different occasions, but the same
problem persisted, and Martinez refused to refund the victim and
then ceased contact.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Oh you didn't go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Oh, come on, you can't go somebody after you don't
put nail glue on the Come on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Man, Wow, it's wild out here, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Check the the Better Business Bureau Karen, guess the race
of Emily Martinez Latina, Latina?

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
All right, what about you, keV.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
I Fake vaneers is a heavily indexed black business Atlanto.
There was just crawling with fake vanier people. Oh no,
we over index in the fake vineer business. I can't
think of a black woman named Emily in my life.
I just I don't think I've ever known black Emily ever.

(01:05:00):
I'm known black Sarah's and Hannah's and Taylors and like,
But Emily is I don't know nothing in my forty
two years.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Would you like to know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Would you like to know the spelling? Yes, Emily Martinez.
Emily is spelled E M E l y, and Martinez
is spelled Martinez.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Okay, So if a black person were to be named Emily,
that would be the spelling. We gotta go a different.
We gotta switch it up if you gonna do it
we can't just go E M I L y.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
That is true.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
That is true, But that Martinez is Emily? Is it
a Afro Latina with the Veneers? Did she marry in
to the Martinez family possibility? I don't have enough information
Emily Martinez. I feel confident even if I'm wrong. I
deduced correctly that she's the latinse all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Right, let's check the chat room lieutenix Mexican Dominican. Damn,
y'all got super specific meg Areacan. I don't even think
that's a race blackly, Uh she she is definitely Hispanic descent. keV,
you just you versus just say like Tina, Oh, I
don't know what I mean if they're the home depot.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Doer, get her done? Four teeth? Come on? All right?
The correct answer is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Karen and Kevin got it correct, and of course something
you got it wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
But uh, here she is up here.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
She applicator.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah yeah, it's the eyebrows for me that just give
the she got untrustworthy eyebrows.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
She didn't draw him, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
I know people that got like have to draw their
eyebrows on and they're more trustworthy than that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
I wouldn't have let her do it in my mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Let's go to the bonus round where you guys are
two for two.

Speaker 7 (01:07:04):
Yay, Why I am raiser?

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
How can I be racist about anybody or anything in
my life?

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
How can I call them niggers?

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Just call them niggas.

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
This monkey bo big fat robbers, high jumping, speed chucking
three hundred and sixteen degree basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
And as a bonus and in the same time, this
is also our last story for sword ratchetness.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Ah. So it involves a sword and we're guessing the race,
okay of the person who did this my sword.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
So an eighteen year old was arrested for attacking a
man with a sword in Gainesville, Florida, Florida.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
Boy, yeah, they have no hard time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
I don't know has been from Florida, ain't I don't know.
If it's like years of doing this show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I don't know, if it's that if Florida has literally
the worst people, or Florida has the worst laws for
protecting your identity when you accuse of a crime. Yeah, Like,
I don't know, because maybe these are the only people
that they put your picture out there, because like I
see crimes from other places in there too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
The local people will be like, but don't put don't
put the boy picture. That's enough. They just tell you
the crazy crime and they don't let you know, like
this is who's a cue?

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
So maybe that's maybe Florida's not as bad as their
reputation was seen. But either way, arris Is arrested Benjamin Owsley,
eighteen on a charge of aggravated battery with a deadly
weapon and child abuse.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Oh how the baby gets some, uh, they said the
thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
They said he attacked a thirty seven year old man
in their air at home. He reportedly kicked and punched
the victim before pulling out a sword. The victim was
unsure if he was actually hit with the sword. However,
he had cuts on his cut on his leg and
the witness. Witnesses say he was hit with the sword.
He hit this man so hard with that sword. He

(01:09:18):
didn't he couldn't remember he got hit.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
With the sword. What a hit?

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
He had all the evidence. He was cut on the
leg and the police are like, so you got caught
with the sword. He's like, I don't know, I don't remember.
I don't know what the what he just hit me?

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
But anyway, two children were watching the attack, which is
how you get the child.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
To be right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
And he admitted, he admitted to the debuties that the
children could have been hurt as he swung the blade.
So it's a very honest man that would kill someone
with a sword. Karen, guess the race of mister Benjamin Owsley.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Benjamin Owsley. I'm gonna go white like Benjamin Button.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Right, Kevin, niggas don't be having swords that much. Go white.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Let's check the chat room, both white and both purp
and the victim on meth. I think ben is black
white because black men don't stick around the kids. Oh no,
sometimes the racism cuts both ways.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Sometimes it cuts us.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
To guys, this is the game Florida, white Caucasian cut up.
Didn't know I couldn't do that white talk about bleach
cosplay white Owsley thought he was the Holland or white?

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
What race was the nail? Take? Dennis? I had buffering
all girl, she was lieutenant.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Reckless white, black, white, damn white, whiter than Taylor swiveing
Travis Coats proposal.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
That was so white about Taylor Swift today.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Yeah, that was breaking news that that was everywhere away
from Twitter for three hours.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
I was like, what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
When I tell you I got I got Evan news
alerts on my phone.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Everybody like, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
My Apple news is like some people says this the
game informer, I'm like, what the something?

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Y'all don't even this is not your job. What are
y'all doing? Anyway? The correct answer is cav said white.
Karen said white. He was black.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Gotta be an anime nigga. That was my only classification.
Let me see if I like anime nig.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
He might be a few of you didn't get it right,
which I'll give you, guys the golf clap because his
name was Benjamin Ousley. Now it's spelled regular Benjamin, but
b A B E N G J A M I
N and then ours is O U S L E Y.

(01:12:03):
I don't think any of these hints could have helped.
I would I would have guessed uh. I would have
guessed white.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
He said he looks very black, and Miles.

Speaker 7 (01:12:16):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
You know what's funny though, What's funny in that in
that particular gall thing they had on with it did
like a newport did not a new part It did
like a new Port, So that's not too far off.
Who said that, keV Man, tell the people where to
go to support you man, where to get the book,

(01:12:40):
all of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Man, successful failure, go to Kevin stage dot com or
link in my bio. Do that if you if you
don't have no money, still okay, get it done.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
If you at your job right now, go in the
register on the next transaction. Don't say nothing. Just take
twenty thirty forty.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Dollars out thirty five, take thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Five, forty, take fifty, keep ten for yourself fifty.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
You know what I'm Sayings for the for churchy BT,
the channel for the hospital September ten, or just follow
me on the ground. Any of these things can help you.
Ain't got no bread. I know times it's hard right now,
just follow me until you got it together.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Yeah, and you did that master class which I which
I've been watching and it is and it's very informative.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
You get the master cast for free. Honestly, when you
preorder the book. I forgot about that, you can say,
there's a link in my bio that's three hundred dollars value.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
It's worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Yeah, get to learn that way, y'all. Can stop hating
on CAV and y'all can get like keV. Then I'll
be looking at the w NBA one day and be like, Oh,
didn't I block this person?

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
What are they doing on my TV?

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
How I can't win? Y'all learned, learn to be a
master in the class CAV. Thank you for coming by man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
This is much to you. We appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
We'll be back Saturday for our feedback show if you're
behind the paywall doing the sports show tomorrow, so.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
We'll talk about the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Truth behind your door Sanders and how the white man.
You know, I'm not even gonna say it right now.
I'm not gonna say what's happening too deep, it's too deep.
We go all the way to the top, we.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Go all the way to Trump Many.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Trying to say the black people down via this fifth
bir bitchs Lord.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Yeah, I love this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Y'all worry about the y'all worry about the National Guard
coming to Chicago. You need to be worried about the
Chicago Bears coming to Cleveland. But y'all ain't ready for
that conversation. We'll talk about it on Saturday. Until next time.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
I love you,