3158: A Giving Heart Project

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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And we're not here alone. We have guests today very
familiar to us, maybe not as familiar to the audience yet,
but that's why we do these Oh and I didn't
I didn't even ask before how how to refer to y'all?
But it's Kevin and Sean tale or do you want
to say Glenny's I'll be seeing the government. Seeing the government.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You can call me in my official capact.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Gleanise. Okay, So Kevin and Glanise from the Giving Heart
Project organization and also Karen's cousin, so we like it's
you know, it's a lot happening right now.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't know if I'm gonna remember Glanise. I'm just
gonna let you know if I just start saying stale,
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah I was. I did. I was thinking about that
when I was doing all my show notes and my research,
and I was like, oh wait, and all the government,
all the official stuff I keep, you know, Facebook, all
this stuff, and I was like gonna start to show
and be.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Like shut down, what's up? Girl?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
And was like, oh wait, that might that might mess
it up, no doubt. First of all, can y'all tell
the people about a Given Heart Project? Like what it is?
Y'all do?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yes? Yes, I'll take it if you're musical.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
So.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
A Given Heart Project is a grassroots five to one
C three nonprofit founded by Kevin and I, husband and wife.
We are native Charlotteans and we started back in twenty
eighteen doing work in our community to give back very
much a project based nonprofit. When we initially started, we
just saw a need and we gathernize support to fill

(02:30):
the need. And over the years we've obviously continue to
formalize this organization. It's kind of grown its own arms
and legs and everything, and it is what it is today.
We are a organization that believes in providing equitable and
sustainable solutions to eliminate barriers for folks in need, and

(02:51):
we do that in three key ways. We provide case
management support to families that are experienced in homelessness and
housing insecurity. Also hosts prevention based workshops with the goal
in mind of equipping young people to address some of
those multifaceted challenges that contribute to homelessness. We want to

(03:12):
equip them and empower them by connecting them with subject
matter experts to learn and get valuable, reliable information that
can maybe help them break some cycles. And then we
also host community outreach events in collaboration with a lot
of other great organizations in the Charlotte community, where we
our goal is to bridge the gap between folks in
need and the resources that exist in our research rich community.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Okay, that's glenas talking.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Okay, I get a chance to toot my own horny.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
She is very smart. She has multiple degrees.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Every time I turn around this getting another damn degree,
I'm like, I'm like, oh my god, so you know,
she willn't know black women what she doing getting a degree,
a certificate, certification?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
And how long have y'all been doing this? Because I
remember like you starting this? Wow? Wow, that's crazy man,
And what made what made you start?

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Like? You know?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Cause I feel like there's people give right, there's you know,
normally when people think about giving, it's like, oh I
go to the Red Cross. I'll go, but like to
start your own thing to be like no, let's go
file the paperwork all that stuff. What made you want
to go do that?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (04:32):
It's so many things, But I'll say that for me,
as a child, I was that kid in a classroom
that was going through hell at home and nobody knew it, right,
nobody could tell. Because I healed through comedy. I wanted
to be the class clown right. Granted, like Case said,
I am pretty intelligent, you know, but I went through

(04:56):
a lot as a child, and that trauma is what
compels me to do this work. Very early in this work.
We were starting going in to see him at schools,
trying to encourage young people. And again, all the pieces
have kind of woven together and to make it what
it is right now. But it was all about for me,
My career and this work in this nonprofit space has

(05:19):
all always been about being able to pour into young
people because I understand what it looks like to sit
on that side of the table.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
And you know, for Kevin, you.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
Know, yeah, for me, it was really coming from a
place of experiencing some of the things that we are
trying to prevent with our nonprofit right. So I was
considered unaccompanied growing up?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, what does that mean?

Speaker 6 (05:45):
Basically, I was considered I didn't live with my parents,
so my mother when I was eight, and I stayed
with my grandfather and my great grandmother and then in
them and between. My next phase was between my aunt
and my uncle at that point. So I never lived

(06:07):
with my father till actually high school. So throughout my
younger years, I was bouncing around from place to place.
So from that standpoint, I would be considered what's unaccompanied.
I was never full blown homeless out on the streets,
living in my car or living in a car.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
But you didn't have like somewhat dis quote unquote consider
her home. Because me, because my aunt adopted me, I
was considered a ward of the state, which is different
than what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
I was like, well, we'll kind of explain a little.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Bit more because you know, she wasn't she is my
legal guardian quote unquote, but she's not my parent. So
you know, they was like, well, you know, since your
mother can't take care of you, we'll consider you a
ward of the state, which is completely different. Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
But if I didn't know that about you.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, And that's one of the things we lead with
our heart. We don't leave with our trauma, and so
a lot of people don't know the things that we
went through as children because we don't look like it
right right, you know, like smoke and the hell that
we went through. But that's all the more reason that
fuels what we do. We really believe that, you know,
it's about the seeds that were planted in our lives
and the people that invested in us and showed us

(07:16):
love and care throughout the years that have you know,
k picking up, picking me and my sister and taking
us to a restaurant to eat and just asking us
how week.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Was being has been right.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
She don't know that. I've never mentioned that to her,
but you have changed because I didn't even know what
that was, right.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
I just wanted to show that to y'all.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I know that might sound wild, but you know, kind
of kind of growing up.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
I've always been.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
The type of person if I have and and you
and my clique we got like like that's kind of
how I always function. And so for me, as I
got older and as I began to experience these different things,
I was like, well, let me take them somewhere where
not tell me funny. They're gonna be outside of their
normal Environment's gonna be white people around.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
You know me know this, you know, type of thing to.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Enter because I think I might have been like in
college or something like that right around that time. So
I was like, well, let me get y'all out so
we can experience things kind of together, so I won't
be alone, because you know, for me, sometimes I felt
like I was alone.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh y'all, camera cut out for a second.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
We can hear you.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, we hear oh, there you go. Well, I was
gonna say another thing that's interesting about like struggle, even
especially as a child, but even as an adult. It's
how psychological it is because we'll try to cover it
up so we don't look like we're struggling, which means
you don't look like you need help. So then it
just compounds the situation because everybody, I got this, I
got this. You know. It reminds me of when I

(08:44):
was a kid. You know, my parents they weren't like cheap,
but they was like, you know, they was parents, they
were black parents. They wasn't like, go get them, Oh,
Jordan's out, go get you some joints.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
My parents are like, no, of course not, that's crazy.
Here's some hoops. They look like you know, rebok promps.
Just put the just put the like cover of your
jeans on the top. Don't nobody got to know. And
but you know, all my needs were met and stuff.
But in some ways it's like, you know, I remember
getting picked on for those hoops. You know, people, oh
he got on jeepers. But sometimes it was by kids

(09:13):
that had Jordan's on, but like their home life was
messed up. They just happened to have those Jordans, so
you wouldn't know that they was actually struggling at home.
Is that a challenge for y'all? You know, when you
do try to enter into schools, when you try to
like to tell people like, I know you need help,
it don't make you less than be here to help.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I needed help, you know, that's okay that I almost
like to give them a reassurance. Particularly in a lot
of times, I realized in the black community, we've always been.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Taught to tough it out, like we've always.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Been taught to give it to Jesus, And there's no
wrong with that, but but sometimes you need help. Kind
of beyond that, why can't it be a collaboration of
multiple things, because it's no one avenue that gets you there.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
So is that a challenge for y'all?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah, I mean, I think a big challenge just as
a society, but more importantly as Black people. We are
taught trained groom to suffer in silence. Yes, and I
think that, you know, that's part of one of the
certificate certifications that I pursued was becoming a trauma informed advocate,
understanding what trauma looks like like, you know, against from

(10:23):
all intents and purposes, but people would probably look at
me and say, oh, she ain't went through nothing. She
grew up in this neighborhood. She had, you know, all
the things and people don't know the hell that was
behind closed doors. You know, the things that I went
through growing up that psychologically to your point where I
just can't really you know, get you to a point.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Where you can't really function.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Like as a contributing member of society. Those type of
things that can really, you know, break you down. So
I think one of the things that we try to
do a really good job of is not just coming
in into any space that we go into occupy thinking
we know the answer, and thinking that we know what
it looks like to be in a place of need, right,

(11:03):
because need is not Your need is not the same
as my need. And there might be a child that
is well put together, well groomed, but just socially can't
engage with their peers in a healthy way, and that
means we need to show up different from them for them.
But there are some kids that maybe come to school
disheveled clothes, are you know, maybe need cleaning, and they

(11:23):
didn't get a good meal that morning, and we show
up different for them, right, And so it just depends,
and I think we try to educate ourselves and be
informed ourselves, and then also the people that we galvanize
to support the work that we do, we try to
make sure that they are informed as well, because it's
about the way we show up. You don't want to
re traumatize somebody, you don't want to assume things. So

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it's about listening. It's about being that ear, open your
eyes and show people that you want them to be seen.
And that's what we do to try to address the
fact that people might not look like they need the help,
or they may, you know, present one way, but ultimately
at the root of it, we want to build resiliency
in everyone.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
What is it that made you both decide I'm gonna
be the one to make the difference Because there's so
many people that go through life and they have all
these dreams and vision that go I want to help,
I want to be supportive, like I want to do something,
but they never.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Take that step.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
What is it that charged you to be like, no,
I'm gonna make this thing a reality.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
So I would say it was my family. Really, I
have another cousin on my other side of the family
who like made the call one morning, it was in
January twenty eighteen, and was like, yo, you see.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
How cold is gonna be? We got to get out
here and do something.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
And I was like I was thinking the same thing. Wow,
And that's really what started us doing that project based
work of collecting what we could using our money to
go out and buy as much we could and go
out and serve people. But I've always had a tender heart, right.
People always called me a cry baby, a tenderhearted, and
that kind of thing, and for a long time I

(13:05):
perceived that as weakness. I havn't do so much care
and concern for other people that I was asking emotionally.
You know, I was saddened by hardship. I was sadened
by injustice and inequity and all those things before I
knew what the big words were, right, And so as
I grew as our age and then obviously got married

(13:26):
to Kevin, he never made me feel like it was
a weakness. He saw my heart and he really pushed
me to be able to say, well, let's do something
about it. You want you want to make a difference,
like we see there's problems in our community. After that track,
the terrible division that was coming in our community.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I tried not to get political, so y'all see me swallowing.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, we knew we were, we said yesterday because we
was talking about some controversial stuff and I was like, tomorrow, guys,
we're having guests. So I'm just letting y'all know. This
is Karen's cousin. We're not trying to get them in
no trouble, so don't don't worry. I see what's happening
in these streets, and it's it's very reasonable things being
said that people is getting like you know, chastis for

(14:09):
harassed about so right, And I can't even imagine like
what y'all are doing right now in this environment because
helping isn't necessarily political, Like helping is helping, Like it's
not like you don't walk up to somebody and be like,
oh so you homeless, Okay, who you vote for? You
know what I mean? Like it's like here, here's the food,

(14:30):
here's the jacket, here's whatever we can here's the housing,
whatever we can do to help. And so to see
like this environment where things are politicized, is it difficult
to navigate it? Like more like more so now than
it was in twenty eighteen when you started.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely harder to navigate, you know, to
your point, right, I think about on the side of
when you look at trying to get the dude. Yeah, right,
Like it's it's a little.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Right now, and like y'all, one thing I noticed about
your project is that it's not and I'm not saying
this as a negative. I mean this honestly. It's a beneficial.
It's beneficial right now. It's not based in like we're
only helping black people or it's black orient it's just
we're trying to help period. And it's interesting because I
feel like up until a couple of years ago, it

(15:25):
probably they companies and people were trying to partner with,
like yo, how do we find the most overtly black
thing to give money to? You know what I mean.
It's like if a giving heart was on there and
another one was like a black giving heart, it was
like give it to a black giving heart. Okay, George
Floyd got killed. We got to make up for lost time.
Target either we need to do something. And now that

(15:48):
you know, I feel like it's almost going the other
way where it's like we need to get as far
away from that. Are y'all seeing any difference in like
giving right now for y'all? Or is it just they
see two black people and they go, this is a
black given thing. We're not helping.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Well, you know, it's interesting. When we first started, there
was a lot of larger entities that were seeking out
to your point, black lead organizations, right, bipop organizations, and
they wanted to support us because they knew there was
a lot of making up to do. And now you
hear some of those same entities saying we have to pivot.

(16:26):
That's the right, they have to pivot, And that's you know,
because they they have been a source, but not the
source for the work that we do. We understand that
there's something bigger and greater that it's gonna be able
to give us what we need to do this work.
But yeah, it is most absolutely like even as we
apply for contracts and we are putting our applications together

(16:50):
for grants, we have to be mindful of the language
that we view because some of the things that we learned,
they a lot of people have a mind that is
only black and around people that need these community resources
and these human services. That is not the case. So
it's not when we're out here in this community.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yets, there are a lot of faces, and I think
that that educating ourselves and becoming more informed that it
wasn't just black and brown people.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
It really hasn't been a hardship for us to say
we're serving people period. Need is need and it doesn't
have a color. You know, there are people that are
more disproportionately impacted rights in a great state of Mecklenburg County,
but there are It's a diverse landscape as far as
people in need. But we do have to work mind

(17:39):
our language.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I didn't even think about that, but yeah, you you
absolutely will have to because and the thing is like,
and I know it's easy to crack down on the companies.
I get it. Look I haven't been the target in
a minute, guys, I you know, it is what it is.
But at the same time, it's a government pressure, like
they're not the companies don't just exist outside of the government.
They they're looking at what's having at the top and

(18:01):
they being like, man, they really cracking down.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
On people, but just trying to help.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, so I could kind of see how like, yeah,
let me I still need the grant, so let me
just change the language up a little bit. And you're
still gonna help the people you can help. So it's
not really like it's affecting the mission, just the way
you would have to apply for grants and stuff. You
talked about. Yeah, yeah, you gotta do what you gotta do,

(18:27):
because at the end of the day, it's like, what
I want to not help people, but I have my
It's like, but at least I told them how I felt,
and it's like, okay, cool, Well they denied the grant,
and right, I don't want to go into the streets. Hey, guys,
nobody's eating to day. I had to. I had to
flex on them, though. I had to flex on y'all
feel me.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
At the same time.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
You know, sometimes you gotta be smart, right strate And
I will say, we may we tried to make strategic movies.
We're not a huge nonprofit, right, some of these other
entities are, but you try to bed.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
You talked earlier about partnering and dealing and like having
to get a team and stuff. Is it difficult managing
people and like, because because you know, to me, like
when I think of people, they mean well, but people.
It's hard to manage people at times, and even something
like altruism, I'm sure it's hard to manage people. So like,

(19:26):
are there is there difficulty getting together people and getting
everybody on the same page.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah, I can speak to it from a like from
the management of the organization on a day to day basis.
Kevin runs our board, so you can probably speak to
it from a different perspective. I think the it is
challenging when you don't have the right people right, but
it is seamless and effortless when you have the right
people with the right heart.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Your Heart project is all about, you know, leading with
our hearts, So that is some of the work that
goes into it on the front end is trying to
make sure that you got people that are are aligned to
the mission and the vision that.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
The organization has.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
And when you got people that are bought into that
and understand that it's bigger than us. It's like heaven,
this is about spreading love and intentional ways. When they're
bought into that, then it makes it easy when we
have to have those crucial conversations and say, hey, I
see you're doing this, but we might need to pivot
and do it this way because ultimately, the persons and

(20:25):
the peoples that we're serving is why we do this work.
And we have to be good stewards of any resources
that are allocated to us, not only financial but in
kind contributions. People donate you know, poetry's clothing, all kinds
of items to support the work that we do. People
going into new homes, they're getting you know, whole houses

(20:45):
of furniture. Right, So anything that we receive, we want
to be good stewards of it. And that means having
being trustworthy and having our names be good in these streets, right.
And so yeah, really it takes a level of let
me make sure I'm conne to the right people on
the front end, which means we stay small for a little.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Bit longer than we wanted to.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Not that's real, but you know, and then from a
leadership or oversight perspective, I know Kevin has a perspective.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Y what's it like?

Speaker 2 (21:13):
First of all, like putting together a board that just
sounds so like that Reacher CEO C. Now you gotta
have titles and stuff. We have had this business. The
blackout tells we have had like an LLC for over
probably a decade now, I still think for a second
every time I have to feel something and it's like
what are you are? A CEO, president, co owner? Like

(21:37):
I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess I'm all those things,
but like I was just gonna put rod but okay,
so yeah, what was it like managing a board and
putting that all together? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (21:48):
No, managing the board again. I think it goes back
to Lenie's a point, right, you got to make sure
you have the right people and that they have your heart,
they have a heart for the organization and the work.
If if those don't, then it is not going to
really work or jail well. Right, So you know up front,
that's us going through certain applications, having those discussions about

(22:10):
how these folks fit into the organization. You know, do
they share the same passion and vision? You know, do
we feel that they are trustworthy? Are they dependable? You know?
Ultimately it's really uh, it's essensibly like your typical interview, right.
You know, you're interviewing for a job or you're interviewing

(22:31):
people to come along into your entity, and you know
you want to make sure that they have the right
skill set, the right knowledge base, and then ultimately with us.
We have a lot of first timers coming on board
as new board members, right, so they don't know anything
about being a board member. So we're able to provide
training to them. They have a one on one one

(22:54):
on boarding buddy, so they're not just left out there alone,
you know, and we try to meet with them and
still you know, our vision and values for the organization
and you know, just show that energy and compassion that
we have to serve our community.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Have you ever had to like let somebody go from
the board or let somebody go as because I like,
because I think when people think charity health and they
also just think it's all it's no business, it's all vibe.
It's a it's an actual yeah, Like there's paperwork, there's balance,
there's like it and it does matter as you say

(23:31):
your names in the street, it does. It matters. Is
it can't just be all vibes. So like, what is
it like to be.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Like, yeah, this ain't working out?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know what I'm saying. We appreciate what you're trying
to do, but it's not.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Having struggle with it, Okay, struggle Now, when I managed
teams for other entities, right, and I know that they
are compensated and they have a job description and the
expectations are.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
And that that's different.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
I can.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
I can do it all day for the nonprofit to
your point where people are volunteering and giving up their time.
So sometimes it is taking me some time to struggle
with that. But this one right here, yeah, like you
are wasting our time.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
We could have somebody else to be most fruitful in
this position.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
I don't blame your baby.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
You volunteer for this, you signed up for it, committed
to right right that commitment, then you do need to
move on and.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
That I went. Now I'm with you. I remember when
I was in in ROWS, which is like this internship
program thing for academically talented black youth is what I
still remember the logo, the slogan, Yeah, I still remember,
like because they used to make us say it anyway,
uh once every like four months or six months, we

(24:49):
had to do like you know, volunteer work of some
time for the community. Right. And there is a thing
that happens where there are people that are almost like
and they already homeless. What do it matter if I'm
on time? And it's like what you mean, they.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Waiting it's extra important.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's extra important. We said we'd be here too. They
showing up hungry at two. They not trying to hear
that you didn't get here till two forty five.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
You need to be here earlier.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, So I do remember, like I mean, now, I
was a kid, but I remember getting you know, scolded
a couple of times, and I was like, oh, I
get it now, because you know, if the car wash
started three, I gotta start at three. You know I can't.
And you know, I remember thinking like, oh, there's some
booms and I gotta do just to keep my keep
my little good job. There was like, no, it's this
is this is what it's really about. So yeah, I

(25:39):
can imagine, even with it being something where you would think, well,
I'm helping, there are people that's like I'm not required
to help as hard as I would if it was
like a paying gig or something like that. And you're right, yeah,
you gotta, no, I respect it because you're really not
just standing up for you and your org. You're standing
up for the people y'all helping.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
Absolutely, and they deserve what what they deserve, the best
that we can give, just like a paining whomever exactly is.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
It's about human value.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
It's not about you know, we don't place the value
in what somebody has or has doesn't have.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
Yeah, and you know we've been in a position like
thankfully to your to your point, like we don't. We
haven't had to really have those conversations with folks. Hey
all right, you're not pulling your weight, you gotta go.
Usually people realizing that they aren't pulling their weight and
they decide to resign or off or leave.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
So that's.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
But again to your point, if we need to be
in that position, then we will make that call. Yeah,
and you know them fair warning and talk to them
about it, right, were just like hey, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, of course it's not like you just go yeah,
it's just gonna pop up like like Nino Brown up
to the y'all not giving out these I get it.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
What is the what is the most out of all
the things y'all done and accomplished with the organization, what
would be one of the most important things you say
you have learned that you could pass on to somebody else.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Oh, so for me, I will say that.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
If you have a passion to do something to make
an impact in any way. I think it's more important
to not look to the left and the right and
figure out what they're doing, but understand what's in you
that you want to pour out and focus on doing
at the best you can, right. And I think because
a lot of times, you know, and that translates to

(27:40):
a lot of different areas. But I think, you know,
there's a lot of people, a lot of people start nonprofits.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
There's a lot of nonprofits.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
For people to sow into, volunteer with, and all the things.
But one thing that I know is can't nobody do
it like glenis right? You know, can't nobody bring the
heart that I have to the work that I do
and who places value in what that means. The child
that will run up to me and hug my waist
and say, miss g I missed you. The mom who says,

(28:11):
I don't know where we would have been if we
hadn't met a Given Heart Project. That little girl who's
smiling after being sharing a room in a hotel with
both brothers for two years and now she has her
own room because a Given Heart Project was able to
step in. So it's those things that to me made

(28:32):
me understand, Yeah, there's a lot of systems out here
that can help folks, and we want to be a
bridge to those systems. And while we're doing that, we're
gonna do it our way. And I think we love
to collaborate and partner with other organizations. So that would
be what I say, like, if you want to do something,
don't wait and say well, I'm wait till I get
with so and so and wait with now. There's really

(28:54):
value in assessing what's already out there, figuring out if
it's a wait for you to serve and plug in
those ways. Because being a nonprofit leader is not for
the faint of heart. Yeah, I get that, but it
is really important to know that everyone brings something valuable
to this world and you can use that value to
sew into other people.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
And how much like paperwork and stuff like stuff that
you weren't because I think, yeah, like just like this,
just like what we do. When I was like start
a podcast, like cool me and my wife's bead bedroom.
We're gonna get us some equipment. We just gonna chop
it up. And then it was like, okay, trying to
file taxes, you know what I'm saying, Like, oh, profit
and loss statement what's that you know.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
That kind off what's an invoice? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
I still remember to start at LLC, we had to
like go downtown and go to this all this this,
you know, dang office and with these people that and
just fill out all kinds of stuff. So, like, is
the paperwork difficult? Is it a lot? Does it consume
a large part of your time.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
To do it right?

Speaker 5 (29:59):
I think to set up the foundation the right way
to set up the organization entity like a business. I mean,
thankfully Kevin and I have businesses, right, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
So we understand.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
A couple.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I know what, you know what I know it is.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Sometimes you gotta have.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
A little feel, you know, Yeah, you gotta do the
ll thing y'all.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Y'all are things we never saw in my never saw
in my feeling. Right, So y'all would wait a minute,
y'all start a business.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Honestly, I had never I didn't even think about that ship.
I know that might sound center, but I never really
think about that. I hadn't even really.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
You know, we don't have a lot of people that
haven't shown it. Did they do it? They do it
the way we don't never.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Learn exactly right.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
My dad was the one that had his own business
in our house because he uh and you know, in
many ways, I just emulated him, which is crazy because
he didn't sit down and do no paperwork. He just
would do subtle things to like psychologically like put the
seed in me. Like he would do stuff like show
me he paid himself through his own company, and show

(31:05):
me how big the check was. And I'd be like, damn,
that's what that's You could do that for yourself. That's
your check. It's not even no numbers taken out of that.
That's all you and I. And that was a kid,
so I didn't you know, he's telling me this and
I'm but I'm not thinking of it, like one day
I'm gonna do that. But then I when I went
to New York and wrote for a TV show Game Theory.

(31:29):
They they all the other writers, they were paying them directly.
I was the only one that I was like, or
they were paying people's agents, which is even the whole
nother thing. I didn't even get me started on the
agents and the management getting to cut because they didn't
they didn't write, not nan joke, but okay, the but
I was like, can y'all pay my company?

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
And I was like, hey, the company, I mean, if
you fill out the paperwork, I guess we can do it.
And I was like, I know it's gotta be away
because you know, these other people technically are getting paid
through something else, and then it's paying them, except it's
getting paid they getting paid through something else, and then
like the manager taking ten percent, and then the agent
taking five percent, and then so and so taken and

(32:09):
then they finally get a little bit at the end.
And so that like it did plant that seat to
me to know that that was possible. So yeah, I can,
I can absolutely, Like it is funny. I didn't think
of it when I was doing it, like, man, somebody's
watching us, but that's crazy. Y'all were like, oh they
started a business, like that's cool, and I.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Know it might sound crava. I didn't even think about it.
But going back and thinking about it, no, like it
kind of in that immediate circle, there isn't really anybody
that's that like come out and be like I own this,
like like not your fund, this is my my name
own it. The government, the government acknowledges it, you know
what I'm saying type of thing. And it's just one

(32:48):
of those things where with me and Roger just just
the whole thing was we was like, we're gonna do it.
And it's wild because when you say we're gonna do
it and nobody.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
You don't have any example of it.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
It's like you're going down the road blind and as
you begin to put the bricks down, all of a sudden,
everything just kind of pops up on the side of you.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Well, I guess I'm doing something right.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I'm gonna tell you what's helpful though, and it's gonna
sound funny, and it is kind of funny, but I
don't mean it to be so mean, but it's kind
of helpful that there's so many people that I am like,
that person is not that smart and they figured it
out right, Like you'll just be on like Instagram, you
be like he got.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
You been like, it's a lot of dummies out here
making a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
I seen his podcasts.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
You don't do nothing but talk about females with a
Z Like I feel like, I feel like it can't
be that hard to do to go to legal zoom
and figure this thing out myself.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
You said that, you said a whole legal zoom and
reading books, read some books, and then the things that
and then the other piece of it, the thing that
I didn't have, that person that resourced to go to
the ass I try to be that for other Yeah. Yeah,
it's you know, you can rem some of that stigma
because some people have been doing it for generations.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Like nothing, got their kids signed up for the got
their kids on the employees.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
They kids got four one ks and just been born.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
By the time they get ready to retire, they gonna
be gazillionaires.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Right, And we still have a lot to figure out
as it relates to that. But I think, you know,
the more that we know, the more that we try
to dig deeper and do better and build a plane
while we're flying it.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Right.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
But thankfully he has this risk and compliance background, so
he's a little bit more in the details and I'm like, oh.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Let me just go out and serve.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
And now he's you know, yeah, like like, don't don't
forget the deadlines. Yeah, because the thing I realized about partnerships,
you got to have both. And like I'm the dreamer,
Roger's the realist and but at the same time, as

(34:51):
a dreamer, I keep him going up to we're both
going up I'm just really high and he like and
not quite that high. Come on down a little bit
and not go okay, but I still see that goal.
But at the same time, I got him a little
higher off the ground, so both are actually moving. But
you need each other for the reality of you don't
want things to crash because the dream of don't be

(35:13):
thinking about stuff on the ground.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, people will ask us all the time, like, is
it hard working together as husband and wife? It hasn't
been hard for us, but it seemed like the default
according to these questions. I'm guessing, like I gotta assume
the default for them is it would be hard. Do
y'all find it difficult to work together as a husband
wife team?

Speaker 5 (35:32):
No, the having the right person makes all the difference,
you know what I mean. And I'm not gonna say
it's always easy. It's not always easy, because the hardest
part about it is it's hard to turn it off, right, Yes, something,
you got this lane or something, then y'all lay in
the bed be like, oh remember tomorrow, we gotta that's

(35:53):
the hardest part. But I like this dude, Like, not
only do I love him and I like being able
to spend that time with him and honestly build something
together so people will look at us and be like, oh,
y'all a power couple. It's a lot of COVID, a
lot of prayer, a lot of fasting, and you know,

(36:13):
testing and challenging each other. But when you got the
right partner, like y'all a power couple, you know, you
know what I mean, Like y'all, y'all doing this thing.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Y'all been doing it hard for a long time.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
And I love what you said about the hardest part
is trying to turn it off. Is because that is
the thing is.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Because it becomes your child, like an additional child. A
lot of people don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
And I do need that. Like sometimes it's just it's
not about the podcast, not about business, not about the
next plan. I think it always weirds people out when
we go out to eat and we both pull out
our tablets and read comic books, because they're like, wow,
this couple's not even talking. They think we.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Don't like each other.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
They all ask us, are y'all okay we've been like
we talk all the time.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, I'm like, all we do is talk. That's it.
Sometimes it's nice.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah, you used to look at couples and be like
they must not, like, you know, they all doing it,
but I mean that's.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
A healthy malace.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Like and then I do everything and then like we
got our business, we got the nonprofit, we got kids
in school. Yeah, in school, like we are, we do
this thing together. If you see one of us the
other one, it's unusual to not see us together, right,
you know, And I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I'm good with that.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, listen, if it's working, Uh, it's working.
I was looking at something today where it was like, uh,
Grant Hill who's married to Mia. They've been married I
think it was twenty six years today, and they got
two kids or whatever, and somebody on Twitter was showing
like this, you know, the people that pay for the
extra characters, was like, here's a long story, but at

(37:42):
the start of the story, it's like on the first date,
Grant Hill, uh forgot his wallet. He ordered a whole
bunch of food and then to Mia paid for it,
and later on he admitted it was a test to
see if she would do it. And they stayed and
now they have two they got two daughters and they
been together twenty six years. Happy, twenty six years awa

(38:03):
at all. I all I always thinking I think I
quote to you to said the only thing that matter
was the last sentence, cause like that, that whole setup
is crazy. That could have not worked on a million people.
Like there's so many people that have been like this
fool is green ill. It's not even about I'm a
gold digger. You're supposed to be green, heel my man,
Like who asked me? I'm to me first of all?

(38:27):
Like it might it's been a while, so some of
y'all that's younger might not.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Might not even know who that is.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
To me, I still remember coming out that water in
that video.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Like who is that?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Like you're gonna pay for that one? That woman doesn't
pay for meals. But it's just funny because I say
all that to say, as long as it's healthy and
y'all happy a lot, it doesn't really matter what it
looks like to other people. Like y'all, y'all are happy
working together, y'all are happy, you know, building together, Like
that's just beautiful anyway. And at the end of the day,

(39:00):
they only thing people really look at is the how
long they all together? Are they still together? That's really
all people can measure it by anyway, nobody really knows
the quality of the relationship. And like, so as long
as it's working, it's great. How did y'all meet?

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Marriage is hard, and you throw business on top of that.
You know, every day it is a victory, you.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Know, absolutely, How did y'all? How did y'all meet?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Oh, that's a good question. Go ahead, you go ahead
and tell the story. So what happened was, now we
were both.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Taking some really trash people. You're really dated to trash people.
And so my mom and his uncle they worked together,
and so my mama.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Hooked us up.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Wow, it worked.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
On some you know, Kevin was in the ministry and
training and I was leading the youth ministry at my
church at the time. And again we were dating some
really garbage people, and so my mom was like, you know,
talking to his uncle, they just needed they need to
be friends, they.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Need to get you know, maybe they can help each
other do this because this ain't it right.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
And and we've and I've honestly known his family all my life.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
It's weird because we've had each other's pictures on each
other's like at each other's houses.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Wow, didn't know you, Like he could be upstairs at
an event and I would have been downstairs and talk
about it.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Now we were like, oh I was there, Oh you
remember that?

Speaker 5 (40:31):
And we never met until, you know what, fifteen years ago.
But yeah, so my mom, you know, said something to
his uncle. His uncle gave him my number, and I
think I was working nights at the time, so we started,
you know, just like a phone conversation and yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
What was that like for you, Kevin, getting your uncle
giving you a girl number to be like you need
to call her, Okay, do something. You gotta man, you
need to do this. Like is it was that just
how trash the person you was dating with you was like,
they was like.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
We gotta find you somebody.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I will call any number. What number is this?

Speaker 4 (41:07):
One?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Nine hundred? I don't care.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
Ultimately, yeah, that I would probably say pretty much how
much trash. My uncle definitely supported me. He loved me
and cared for me right, and you know, ultimately it
was a situation to where ultimately, at that point in
time there where I was at church, I'll share the story.

(41:35):
That's where I was at church. I was serving there
in the ministry, and the pastor at that point in time, well,
he was never married at that point, but a girl
I was dating I had strong interests in at that point.
Ultimately they ended up getting together and the last person

(41:57):
to find out, oh nostry and very close to the
pastor in my capacity.

Speaker 7 (42:05):
I.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Know they was up in church, like girl, today might
be the day he find out. You better show up.
I'm going to all the service.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
They might be a fight up in the.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
And his uncle always knew who I was.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
It wasn't you know he And I'm grateful that you know,
trusted and knew who I was and enough to entrust
me with this one because you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Kind of dope though that like, because you don't, especially
when you're younger, you definitely don't you think the opposite, right,
It's like, I definitely don't want to be with nobody
my parents think it's like good.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Like, how would they know it's gonna be whack?

Speaker 2 (42:46):
It's they gonna be boring. It's basically gonna be like
dating my parent. I don't want to date my parents
parent approve, but it is. I do feel like once
you get older and you get into that parental age,
you be like, Noah, it's a lot of good values
that parents value that I needed to be thinking. I
wasn't thinking about I was thinking, like how cool this

(43:07):
person go be? But like, you know what's real cool?
Hitting at mortgageey fifteenth, you know what time, you know,
being at home.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Like my mom was telling me like you don't necessarily
need to marry the person or look, search out that
person that you can't live without. You gotta find a
person you can live with, right, And it was at
that time like I've always had an old soul, and
I think that I've rather learned from my mom's mistakes
or you know, the mistakes my mentors.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Then making those mistakes myself. And so I was.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Willing to say, Okay, you think I'll see, We'll see,
you know, I give it a chance.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Now to y'all, does your uncle and your mom do
they both like pour this card out of everyone? Because
I feel like if I would definitely joker, like y'all
would never hear nothing over on me?

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Did she takes all the credits, you know, saying every
piece of everything good if it hadn't been for me, right.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Look, how look how he's picking your baby up. Look
you know he wouldn't have heard that, y'all. You would
be with somebody that can't even pick the baby up.
If it wasn't for me, Yeah, oh man, you would
never win an argument.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
And if I get in a disagreement with him, she's like,
you better go talk.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
To him, right, Yeah, Well now she's super invested because
like if it don't if.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
It don't work, it's make me. You're gonna you're gonna
make me look bad down these streets.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Right, she's gonna be in y'all house fixing it.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Right. They ain't gonna be talking about me in church
next week.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
And then like, what was it like for you saying
up Glenise, growing up with Cake?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Whoa yo?

Speaker 4 (44:56):
You took it back with Kke. Yeah that's my name, Keke.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
I mean she's always been what you see is what
you get. Kay has always been k you know what
I mean. She's been my big cousin, my fun cousin,
like like I said, giving me experiences like her going
off to school, Like I'm gonna do that too her,
you know, coming like meeting you, like I was like, man,

(45:22):
I wish I had me a high school sweet. It
was it was it was like that emulation, Like she's
always given me something to look up to and aspire to.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Not that I put her off on a pedal schalol.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Right, she's killing me just like everyone else, right, But
she was always willing to always has been that person
that for me, I didn't have a big sister, right,
and and I didn't have a huge, huge family locally,
you know, Kay was it my big cousin here. The
rest of my cousins were like other parts of the country, right,

(45:54):
you know. Growing up, she was that person and I like,
look at look at back at my photos from my childhood,
birthdays and stuff. K was there, and I just remember
her being that fun, that fun person, that supportive person,
that person that was like a big sister to me
that would come pick me up and be like, so
what's going on what you're doing with you know, and
then you're willing to talk to me and give me

(46:14):
advice and you know be crazy sometimes, you know what
I mean, like just give you that. Just I just
remember like never feeling like when K came to scoop me,
I was gonna get a different experience. And that is
what I think challenges me to not just settle. It's
that seeking out those different experiences. So I value that

(46:36):
k I ain't never said it to you like that,
but I really appreciate, you know, the way you showed
up for me. And you know, man, it's so many things.
I don't want to put all our business out there,
but like even she's with me, you know, so I
want my cousin worship, you know, And that was something
for me that was like important, you know, it was

(46:58):
just she's always been a really great role model and
person that I could see and understand that there was
value beyond just what I was.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Going through at the moment. So I'm grateful for that.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
And also like I you know, I hear how spiritual
and like how important church and religion is for y'all
at this time, Like it feels like even like Christianity
is becoming it's like a different type. Like people got
different Christianities now they do. So how like is it
is it almost misguiding or like or do you almost

(47:31):
have to be like careful because some like some people
Christianity is we're going out, we feed the homeless, were
putting shoes on people, and some people Christianity is like
we going to the government, were making sure people can't
do stuff, we kicking people out of the country. You know,
Like how do y'all navigate that? You know, because like
I said, all all people that call themselves Christian aren't

(47:53):
always operating the same.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
No they're not.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
No, we were talking about that.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
I think for me, my baseline and framework has always
been operate from uh standpoint of love, right, you know, ultimately,
you know, I believe that we would created because of love,
and I think we need to operate that way and
all and our dated lives. Right, we need to show

(48:20):
love to people, shout and passion, uh, you know, try
to outlook our neighbor and make sure everyone's okay, like
have a sense of community.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Right, Yeah, it seems simple. It seems so simple to me.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
It's not isolated in that there's some folks that represented.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
People that you know.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Just take the tenets of it and they morph it
into something that it's not, never was intended to be.
You know, there are other religions that have that same
you know, conflict so to speak. You know, but I
know that, you know, there's a long standing challenges with
Christianity that sometimes people think that Christians are you know,

(49:03):
they some Christians do act like they're better than everybody else.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
The yes's that cash twenty two because like, uh, I'm
not a very religious person. But people always, you know,
they kind of are like, so do you like not
like Christians? You don't like Christian I'm like, no, I
don't have a problem with that. I grew up in
the South. People I knew that was helping people was Christian.
Reverend William Barber is a Christian. He's doing that from

(49:27):
the religious tenants in his heart. That's why he helps people.
So I can't just be like everybody as a Christian
looks like blank person that is, you know, in my opinion,
like doing stuff that's hurting the world. Like the same
people that's helping the world, they found something different in it.
So like I but I always think about the internal
conflict because I could see you really would have to

(49:48):
do your research. It's like, oh, we want to partner
with this organization. Oh cool, we bought Christians And they're like, yeah,
so what we do We go out we beat people
up on the weekend. It's like, whoa, that's not that's no,
that's the opposite.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Do it is? It is definitely challenging.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
We have to be We try to stay prayer for
and sometimes we're not gonna know because you don't. They
say they want thing and they end up being something different.
So I mean, if you lived your life that way
of always trying to make sure you only affiliate yourself
with the right people that doing the right thing all
the time, I mean you probably have to stay in
the house.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Don't do nothing.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
It's just it's really challenging. So really, all we can
individually be responsible for is the actions that we take
and our motivations behind it, and we try to do
the best we can with what we have, align ourselves
with people that we it's best to the best of
our knowledge, that are doing the things the way that
we can stand in alignment with. But yeah, it's challenging,

(50:48):
you know, to you come into a space. But you
come into a space and people say, oh, well you're Christian.
Oh okay, I know.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
You know, they made assumption because they had whatever their
experiences are.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Like we said, you don't really always wear your trum
on your sleeves, so you wouldn't even even know until
you start talking and be like, oh, okay, so what
happened to you?

Speaker 4 (51:07):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I like, you know, my pastor started geting my girl.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
So like I mean, for some people, not time, they
don't recover from that, and they would just separate and
be like, yeah, I don't got nothing, And it's deep.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
I think that it's really important that we are genuine
and that we do our best, like I said, with
every instance, that we have to represent who we are
to be true to that. And I think that that's
where you know, no matter when we come out and
we're serving, we're not coming oh you know, we happen
to attend you know, world wors of church. We come

(51:45):
out as Kevin and Glenise. Right, that's who we are.
You're gonna see our walk.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Right.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
We don't have to beat you over the head with
the word of God. We don't have to prech at you.
You're gonna feel love. And you may say, man.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
What church you go to?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
People anytime? Listen anytime at anytime. People see people happy, productive,
Everybody want to know the secret whatever it is, you
know what I mean. Like, it's sometimes I feel bad
because I don't be feeling I don't have like a
blueprint to be like, all right, so this is what
you need to do player.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
But not reading a blueprint.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
But I feel like everyone's seeking out that same like happiness,
well adjusted, you know, the helpfulness. So I can absolutely
see people, Like I said, you don't have to preach
it to people for people to just be like curious, like, hey,
so how did you find your way to this? So
I could definitely see that. Now, there are a lot
of people in the game that are doing well, but

(52:42):
they scamming. Do y'all ever feel like, man, we should
have scammed though, cause I feel like it's some people
with some they got they getting bred, like big houses, cars,
they be all the events, they had the red carpet, like, well,
you ever tempted, you know, to just you know what
I'm saying, go ahead and get the Okay, I just

(53:06):
had to ask.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
You that ain't okay.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
You know, it's challenging when you see folks that you
know aren't necessarily on the up and up prospering right,
That part is challenging. It can sometimes be a little discouraging,
but it's never to a point where I'm like.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Man, let's just I'm not gonna lie. I've been I've
been tempted to come time. I didn't do it. I've
never done nothing like it. But it's been a few times.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
I have vetoed a lot of ideas that will never
come to the light of day.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
I've been looking at Roger like, no, sir, get out
my face.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
I read the paper. I read the paper.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
I'll be like, man, he'd be like, why don't we
sell out? We are not selling out, sir.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
I'm like, I don't even know if this person believe
in God. They just ca and stuff. They just out
here making money.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Their biblical laws.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
If you follow those laws, if you follow those steps,
there are certain things you're going to read. I'm going
to be able to you know, see prosper and you
know prospering those things and you know, but we we
gotta do it right because to Okay, we're not accountable
to ride, We're not accountable to no people. We believe
it being accountable of something bigger and he sees everything.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
So you know, glad, how did COVID impact the organization?
And how are y'all preparing if something else like COVID
happens again?

Speaker 4 (54:33):
Hm?

Speaker 6 (54:34):
So uh Well, when COVID happened, we were actually going
into the local school system here in Charlotte. We wanted
to title Title one schools and we were doing days
of encouragement. So we were going and do our activity
with them and then we might do a presentation on

(54:54):
Martin Luther King or Rosa Parks or someone that was
very inspiring, and that overcame obstacles, right, But when the
pandemic hit, you know, of course, that shut everything down, right,
so we had to pif it and we had to
pivot hard. So we actually, I think during that point

(55:16):
in time, we were thrown around the idea of doing
another another preventer program, which is what we call TIPS
and it's the Team Initiative for Promoting Preventer Practices. So
we did our first ever session actually in that November

(55:37):
November twenty one, and it was all on Zoom Wow.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
That was that was we did.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
Yeah, we had we had this shift because we again
our heart was to serve young people kids, right, and
we were very fortunate early on to be able to
go into the schools.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
And so when the.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
School shut down and Unity really shut down, the work
with the kids that we were doing had to pivot
because we couldn't get to them directly, but the work
in the community we were massed up. We had that
we had to change our waivers, right, we had to
put in there. You know, you coming out to service
at your own risk, right, because you know people that
were experiencing houselessness and housing and security, they if COVID

(56:23):
didn't change after them, It's right people. You know, you
know ten tent City, you know erected and you know
we were already out serving. So the visibility of tent
City made our city.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
It showed a lot about our.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, for those that don't know, don't live in Charlotte,
So tent City was like this, Uh, it was like
this area of Charlotte that was a lot of people
that were houses, like started to congregate around and so
and and like at first it was it was small,
but it kept getting bigger, especially during the pandemic, right,

(57:05):
and it got so big that it really started becoming
like an eyesore to the city. Politicians, media, people really
started caring, not necessarily caring about the people they are,
but carrying to get them the hell out of there.
And then it kind of like basically got bulldozed out
one night, and like like you really it's crazy because
like even a city that is considered liberal, like like here,

(57:28):
San Francisco, Seattle, all these cities that have a reputation,
like these hippies and the like, they all democrats and
they just man, everything's cool in theory, right, once it
become real life, people slipped. They they flipped up on folks.
And it's so interesting because I think, you know, I

(57:48):
was saying this about like cash Bell, like people are
in theorious, like we gotta in cash Bell. We got
to stop putting people in jail just so that uh,
they don't have the money, So now they can't. They
they don't lost their job, they don't lost their house.
Turns out the trial, it doesn't even go to trial.
You donet lost everything by it, and you just get
back out on the streets. That's messed up. Why don't

(58:08):
we just let people out while their trials are pendent
and then you know, they can come back through their
justice system and whatever the penalty is if they're found guilty,
they could pay it then, right, everyone agrees. If we
do this on Twitter, Facebook, anywhere, that's theoretical. In real life,
people be tripping. There was a man who stabbed a
woman to death on the train at mental illness and

(58:32):
it's gone viral and like the presidents picked it up.
It's crazy. But the bigger point is like, he had
a small infraction for something he was out on bail
for right now, and it was not necessarily anything he
should have been locked up for it. We're not even
sure it's a crime, to be honest, but they immediately
seized on that, like, well, he was a performer, feeling

(58:53):
and he was jaywalkin, so why was he even out
on the streets. And it's like suddenly you see people
that you would think would be like, well, this is
kind of the cost of freedom of us not having
a punitive system. You're gonna have some people that are
out and maybe they reoffend instead, it's like we gotta
close the system. Nobody gets out. And that's kind of

(59:15):
how it felt with the tent City. It felt like
our city was like, yeah, we like helping people that
don't have houses in theory, we didn't think they was
gonna like be outside and we was gonna see them
every day. Get them out of here. I remember one
of the news reporters like they be having rats up there.
I was like, right, but they would because we don't

(59:36):
take care of that area, and we just letting people
out there today own devices. That's kind of that's what
would happen. It's like they gotta go. I'm like, the
rats gonna still exist, by the way, But okay, so
now they're gone. What did we fix?

Speaker 3 (59:49):
We fix absolutely positively nothing. Because the thing about it is,
once you tear that down, the people don't disappear. That's
what people fed to realize the people. You might not
I can see them, but they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
And you didn't tear it down because you were helping them.
You tore it down because you didn't like the way
it made our sites.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
It ain't like you tore it down and then you
found people housing you. You did your due diligence to
be sure that they wouldn't be in the situation again.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
You just tore it down.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
There's a lot of organizations, grassroots that I'm proud to
call friends that continue to stay and fight for those
folks that were displaced in Tense City. We were part
of the Heart City Invisible Coalition when it first started.
Now it's a big thriving entity that created the Street
Outreach Team here and Charlotte, and they were able to
do amazing work to help advocate for those folks and

(01:00:38):
support folks and get them into the hotels that were
erected to help support folks that were displaced. But unfortunately
a lot of people did you know, they could not accommodate, right,
and so where you see folks in underpasses and and things, Yeah,
tense city didn't just the problem wasn't magically solved because

(01:01:00):
as they pulled a lot of hard work, a lot
of crazy hours went in to trying to do the work.
And we we are proud to call some of those
ladies and gentlemen friends that did that work, and we
helped to support in any way that we could. But
that's still a problem. We still got people suffering from
from being displaced during.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Every time the street, every time the street you said, yeah,
it's everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
And also the thing is, like I just say a
lot of this stuff and this is across the country
in theory because a lot of times, once they tore
it down all day, all a lot of these people
did was scatter across the city. So now at every
intersection you have somebody with assigned all across the city.
Is Charlotte not trying funny when they all probably would
have been conjugated in that one area.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Yeah, but it's yeah, it's just messed up, because like
even if they're kind of put in one area, if
the city and the people are like, yeah, you were
in one area where we're not gonna help you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Then it's just just benefiting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, still it's still messed up. It's it's something about
the heart. I mean, giving heart really, he truly is
about people changing people's hearts and minds about that stuff.
How can people give? Like where do they need to go?

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Yeah, so there's a lot of different things. I mean,
obviously I want to first say, hey, a Given Heart Project,
we're out here doing some work. Support our work, right
go to www dot a Given Heartproject dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
You know you can support there.

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
However, what I will implore you all and one of
the things that we've learned more is we've dug into
some of the policy spaces. There is a continuum of
care here in Mecklenburg County and now all your cities
wherever you are, plug into your continuum of care. If
you have a heart for people that are in housed,
connect with the COC because they are making decisions to
make homelessness rare, brief, and non recurring. That is literally

(01:02:43):
their mission. And so you if you have a passion
to be connected to this work. Plug in there, figure
out how you can use your social capital, your network
of people, whatever, your resources to help make true impact.
Because yeah, there's important work being done by boots on ground,
but we need voices in those rooms that are making

(01:03:03):
those decisions that are far reaching. So I encourage everyone.
If you don't know what your CEC is, if you've
never heard of the Continum of Care, google it, Get
connected to Continuum of Care, and then find a local
organization that's doing some of this amazing work, one of
them being a Giving Heart project, and we would love
to have your support. We take volunteers, we take in

(01:03:24):
kind contributions, like I said, taller trees, nonperishable items, school supplies, laundry, detergent,
like anything you can think of that is a basic
necessity in life. People need those things. And then we
also will take your tokens. Yeah, would love to have
your support in doing this work.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I put the link in the show notes, so dollar
listening later. I put it in the chatroom already, but
if you're listening later, you're in the show notes. Hit
up a Givingheart dot org. It's in the chat room
as well. A given Heartproject dot org and uh yeah, man,
I'm like, I not just it's weird being adults and

(01:04:06):
talking about but I'm so proud of y'all. Man, it's
such a dope thing, Like yeah, that y'all doing, because
like it's I think it's difficult, but it's also like
y'all are so mission oriented and it's you know, it's
like dope to know people like that that exist in
the world. Man. Like, sometimes I feel like it feels
so dark in the world, and specifically at this point

(01:04:26):
in time, it feels like the only thing that's gonna
get people through is community with each other. Like you
can't just like to hopefully a lesson that's being learned.
You can't always depend on some outside entities to like
fix it. Sometimes it's down to people, and the people
got to be the ones to fix it themselves. And
so I think it's so beautiful what y'all are doing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Yeah, And as somebody and I've I'm like this with
a lot of people. I see people doing things, and
I am the type of person I always cheer from
a distance always, and so you know, even you know
people online and things like that, so I might not
always be in your face up front, your largest cheerleader.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
But I have.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Seen where y'all have came from. I've seen y'all doing
really really small things. Well very few people turned out.
I remember one time y'all was at like a trampoline place.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
One time, you know, all y'all doing school, y'all doing
stuff for women and somber.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
I remember, and I just I just mentally just kind
of took notes of what, what everything you guys were doing.
And so some of the projects, one of them things
are very proud of what you accomplished. And it takes
a lot of the time, a lot of dedication, a
lot of love for these things because y'all have children
and things like that too, and so you know, it's

(01:05:46):
tough to do it just regular. But then you add,
I'm also trying to raise other human beings also, you know,
like like like in addition to all these various different
other things, and in addition to given to your organization.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
You guys have an event coming up. Let us know
about the event.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
Yeah, thank you so much, fir. Then must say thank
you for this opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
Y'all a leveraging your platform to support our work and
it means a lot to us, so thank you because
but yes, we do have our second annual Gayla coming up.
It's the Red Red Heart Affair, Old Hollywood theme. It
is actually Friday, September nineteenth. It's at the Lux Venue.
It is a fundraiser for us to be able to

(01:06:29):
support this work as we go into this last quarter
of the year, helping us to gear up for next
year and the big plans that we have to support
even more families, even more individuals that are unhoused.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
It is we have.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
If you go to our website at givenheartproject dot org,
you will see on the very first page you can
get your tickets. Ticket sales are actually still open until tomorrow,
so you can go in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
You can get a ticket. If you can attend, we
would love to have you there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
If you can't attend, there's a donate button attached to
that campaign, so feel free to support our work. We
would really appreciate it. It really helps to fuel the
three legs that we stand on, which is our case management,
our prevention work, and our outreach in the community. So
thank you for the opportunity to share that with your audience.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
All right, listen, we are still a comedy podcast, and
we do silly things here too, So I do want
to do some silly stuff with you guys. But we
also saw you guys outside of handles one day, just
out like it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
I'm so sorry. I talked them to death.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
We're ice cream, We're ice creaming. It's fine. Yeah, what's
your favorite flavor at the at the handles? Do y'all
have a favorite?

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Minus living bar?

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
You know what got me in a headlock right now
is their blondie. It's like a blondie brownie. And then
I put some butter pea can ice cream on top.
Now don't judge for the rest of this. Then I
put some strawberries, some pineapple and wet walnuts. My god, Okay,
but it sounds good though.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
It's delicious.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Got it's got fruit in there, so it's healthy.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
Kevin, you got a favorite that I like?

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Mine is they got a blueberry pie? One? Is that thing?

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Do not miss?

Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
It was the apple pie?

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Yeah, blueberry pie. Don't sound like it would be good?
Ice cream? Like I really was, Like I was listening.
This is the greediest thing I ever admitted. But we
were on the way, we were going to handles because
it was our first time. I had never heard of it.
So I went on Spotify and searched handles and I
found a Handles ice cream episode of a podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
They talked about it, and they.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Was talking to a person that worked at handles. It
was and this was not like some major podcast. This
was like a local Kentucky like I just talk to
the people in that around my city. And this one
was like, well, you know, I'm a manager at handles
or whatever. And it was like, so, what's the most
popular flavor? She was like they described it. The way
she broke that blueberry down. I was like, man, I
ain't never had yell.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
And the way she was like, we we make our
batches every day, we make them by hand.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
I was like, and bitch, it tastes like it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
That they so absolutely delicious they sold me so like
that's what I'm all right now.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
Now we also, you gotta get some because it's you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Listen, Yeah, you gotta handles near you now be because
now the struggle now is because I be wanting to
try something different every time. The struggle now is not
falling to that like just give me the blueberry one
more time. I look at all. I'll be up there.
I know they'd be like, was he even looking at
the menu? He's staring at this menu for twenty minutes

(01:09:49):
knowing no reason. Yeah, he gonna the blueberries, heir, Yes,
the blueberry. Well, we play a game and it's happy couples.
I feel like this will be a fun game for us.
It's a game called Gender one. Okay, I'll explain the
game to you in the second, but first all I
played the theme song music because it's a it's a bop.

(01:10:09):
And then I'll tell you how we play the game.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
We're going to war on our side.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Went on outside? Okay, so gender wars. We find content
on the internet where people are arguing men versus women something. Okay, Now,
we don't participate in the man versus women. It's not
about who's winning, the men or the women. That's the
that's that's not cool. That's that that part sucks. What

(01:10:47):
we do is we go how good was this content
at being inflammatory enough that people would argue about it?
So from zero to ten, like we So it's not like, oh,
the woman was right the man. It's like, man, did
they set up a good enough scenario to where people
are gonna share it. They're gonna be mad, they're gonna

(01:11:08):
be whatever. So today's contribution came from a fan who
sent me a link to this YouTube short and it's
called The caption is so I'm stepdaddy for the bills,
but can't check your kids. Hmmm emoji. Okay, this is

(01:11:28):
from Cedric Maddox artists who put this out. It has
one point four thumbs ups. I guess it don't count
the dislikes. I would love to know that number. But
it's got twenty one hundred comments, so people they were talking.
A lot of people will even comments. All Right, I'm
gonna I'm gonna play some of this and then we'll

(01:11:49):
start judging how good this was. Let's see, how do
you feel God disciplin your hold up? This is what
I'm talking.

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
So when you was in the house being disciplined, they
don't have nothing to do with me. Did your mama
tell you to keep your knees to yourself?

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Your mama? Why you talk?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Okay, So those listening audio later, it appears that the
woman is holding the phone and the man is in
the car with her and they arguing, but she's the
one recording. So I don't know how Cedric Maddox artists
uploaded this. It don't seem like it's his video.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
And she keep going from front view to back view.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
From the back view, now, I will say I do
it feels kind of real, only because of how trash
the filming is. Yes, just don't film like they feel
like they really sat there and came up with in area. Y.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Yeah, this is like a real old person who got
a who got a phone for the first time, and
they grandkids just told them how to flip from the
back to the front, so they practicing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Yeah, why is the video just showing like the top
on her head like it's just.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
You know, yeah, because they don't know who to aim.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
It her outfit right, yeah, like but it's it's it's
adding to the authenticity even as it takes away from
the presentation.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Agree, Agree, All right, here we go.

Speaker 7 (01:13:18):
You're not to put your hands on my kids. You're
not gonna put your hands on my kids. They Daddy's
not gonna put nobody I get home.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
So you telling me what?

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Okay, well, what is discipline? What is discipline in your book?
What is that? You don't have to put this on the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
That's a good touch. They always forget to do that
in these little fake scenarios. But but in real life,
if you're having an argument and one of y'all whip
out a phone, someone is gonna be like, why are
you according this and why don't put this any And
almost every time they act like it's normal, and I'm like, no,
normal people don't. Are you like that? They don't, So

(01:14:02):
I do appreciate him pointing out, like I see you
filming me, and what are you planning to do with
this film where you're talking about me getting kids?

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
That's not that's not cool.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I'm a real person. They might see this at my job.
You're gonna get me go to jail. It feels real.
I'm send it to your mama. MNA, send it to
your mama. You know what to do? You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
Yeah, is very high.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
You're right, and so what.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Discipline can time out?

Speaker 7 (01:14:34):
You're not putting nobody in time out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
No, did you buy the toy? Did you buy it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
So you're saying that I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Did you buy the toy?

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
So what I supposed to do work?

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
And it comes to my kids?

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
You if you didn't buy no toy?

Speaker 7 (01:14:50):
How you gonna take the toy from somebody?

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
I don't know that the argument makes sense or not.
I don't have to I don't, but I do appreciate
her talking to the phone while this man is still
in the car talking to her like.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
Like, for real, why are you gonna put you Why
are you gonna put it out there like that? Like
even if that's how you really feel?

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
What you who was?

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Oh my god, her talking to the and I'm assuming
that it's not because it's from the It doesn't look
like it's on Instagram live or anything. So she just
talking to the video on the phone knowing she's gonna
put it out later. But it is funny to start
talking to the phone like it's like a person is there,
Like can you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Believe this dude? He is? How you gonna just put it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
What do you think? Talk to him? But okay, it's
only like maybe another minute or so.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Did you buy the toy?

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Buy the toy?

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
So did you buy the toy? Now? No? You being immature?
Why you're trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
What you got? What kind of fetus you got? Putting
your hands on people? They put my hands on them.
I'm saying, discipline, How do you feel about disciplining your
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
I don't different, I don't. You're right, You're right.

Speaker 7 (01:16:09):
Because you know why, because I was not raised like that.
You're not gonna put your hands on my kids. They daddy,
don't put their hands on on the sleeker baby.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
So she is stuck on him hitting her kids, and
he's telling us he's not gonna hit the.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Kids, right, but listening to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
It don't even matter what he says. She's gonna write
back to like he.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Gonna hit these kids. I can tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
This is a good trick though, to get him to
buy some toys. Though.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
The kids gonna benefit the toy, the toys in the
house gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Go on, because if he wanted discipline, he gonna buying them.
Come on. I would show up the next day with
the PS five like, hey, hey, we're living different around here. Okay,
I'm about to be y'all about to respect me. Yeah,
go ahead, plug it up. And then second they mess up,
give me the controllers. I could do it, you said,

(01:17:02):
if I bought the doors. Yeah yeah, yeah. It's other
issues once you start filming and it puzzing on the internet,
I mean it's pretty much over. Yeah, we've done three
thousands of these episodes. We ain't never sounded like this
on one of them. That's crazy. I'm not putting none
of this in front of the street. All right, let's

(01:17:24):
let's finish it off.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
That's my say.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
Who done that? You're not gonna do time out times? When? No? No,
they mind? They mind?

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
So I don't have no to just discipline?

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
What who does?

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Maybe guess what you're not? You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Do what you want to do? Here's what you can do.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Take me back to my car, that's what you can do.
You could to my car.

Speaker 7 (01:17:51):
That's you see that. Now you can tell them that
you know what? So what tell that you wouldn't mind it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Be get what? Baby?

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
Hey? What the car? Put the coin drive?

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
What the coin drive the car?

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
You know? See what I'm saying. This is what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
I don't want to talk about baby.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
You need to work, baby, before.

Speaker 7 (01:18:11):
You get engaged to somebody know who you're getting engaged to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
So it's a warning to us. Somehow that turned into
a lesson, ma'am. We're not in the car yelling no,
it's not. There's nothing we can learn from this. She
really came for our next day. I didn't think it
was gonna turn into a lane.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
I didn't. I didn't know this. This was the more.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
You know, I was trying to figure out the audience.
Now I know it was us.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
It was us. Yeah, she was. She posted this as
a warner.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
Now there are some comments.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
You know, we have to check the comments to see
how good the content was. So okay, prepare yours to see.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
What they was saying. Okay, ain't no telling this the internet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
The first comment was from two weeks ago. It's from
rabbit D four five two. She she's raising the next
generation of convicts. Oh no, eight and twenty six thumbs up.
Oh no, not sure how he got that from that,
But okay, she is showing who she is. Please act accordingly,

(01:19:15):
says Anthony. Please leave this woman for your peace of mind,
says Simeon. She's ignorant. In caps at its finest. Our
first comment from a woman, and the woman's name is Lady.
First Magog says, know who you're getting engaged to. She said, madam,

(01:19:35):
thank you, for the bottom of my heart for showing
this man exactly who you are before letting him make
the biggest mistake of his life. Letting him know you
wasn't raised with any discipline was a big help too.
So everyone's on the man's.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Side seemed like yes, one side of argument.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Yeah, crazy, she thought she was gonna make him look stupid.
Listen to all these people, dog and run. Don't look
back either. A young food comes awful. Yeah, zero people.
I was trying to see if I can find at
least one person on her side. But okay, all right,
so let's rate it, Karen zero to ten. How how
good is this on the gender war scale for you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
I give this one, this one about the middle of five,
and I give it a five because these is older couple,
so I can I understand the camera angle changes and
all up your nose here.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
It looks like when Monique filmed that video that one
time and at the end somehow the camera was way
up here. It was like, oh, won't getting old. Like
I'm not saying she's wrong, but like that's old people
feeling that you can't have the camera up here. You
gotta get the body in there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
That and then the energy level like they massed each.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Other, did give you a big energy level?

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Person, Yeah, like like like like and It don't matter
if the energy is high or low. It just sometimes
it needs to be boun sometimes different energy levels can balance.
But I but they kind of met other with the
same kind of energy level so far.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
And it's also I think that uh, he tried, he
tried to argue, like but he w wasn't doing a
really good job. And I think that at the end
when he called a ghetto, that should have been more
at the beginning, like like like if you really want
the people to kind of catch on you arguing, like
like because.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Then maybe some people would have been on her side. Yeah,
start off calling her ghetto. Then it's like that's why
she really got mad, right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
With it with a justeld It justified her action.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
And on the deeper level, you like, is he being
anti black so you call her ghetto because she a
black woman hit her kids? Like right, that would have
took it to the next level.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Yeah, So I'm kind of taking kind of points away
from that because it was like things at the end
should have been more at the beginning, Like because the
thing about the gender wars, you want to catch people quick.
You don't want to take two minutes in because most
peophen I they're not gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Watch all these all the two minutes like we did.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
They're gonna hit about thirty seconds to you know, ninety seconds,
then they're gonna tap out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
I feel like most people that left comments didn't even
watch out video.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
They didn't even need to know. They didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
They was like she wrong. First of all, she loud,
you know, what about what about you, Glenise? What would
you get us from zero to ten?

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:22:16):
Yeah, I said. I started out at like a seven, like, oh,
this is legit. But then I think I feel like
the continuation of the video. I really felt like, especially
when he said after he said, you don't got to
put this on, and she kept switching it back and
she was talking to somebody, it just felt.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Really like inauthentic.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
Yes, really like I can see that. I don't know, I.

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
Feel like this is not a legitimate, reasonable conversation to
be having somebody you engaged like they didn't match up
for me. So yeah, I'm gonna get I'm gonna go
down load, Lena, go down load.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Give a folk. Okay, what about you, Kevin, how'd you
feel about the how zero to ten?

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:22:55):
I was at a six, But as the conversation continued.
I think I got down towards for myself, you know,
for me looking at the video. See the whole bunch
of red flags.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Oh of course, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Over the place, the whole video.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
It's just one red flag.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
They ain't just throwing them left and right, flag to play,
flag to play.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
Flag on to play.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Yeah, yeah, all right, I think for me, so I
started high as well because I feel and to like,
I'm still not sure they faked that, like only because
crazy people that talk to their phone like that. She
that's like she knew she she knew she was gonna

(01:23:43):
upload it, but it felt like there was nobody there,
nobody there, so like she was so like into the
idea of winning this argument on the internet that she
was already preparing herself to talk to the internet, which.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Is crazy, Like what it don't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
But I had to knock some points off because the
caption is actually wrong. The caption was, I'm stepdaddy when
it's time to pay the bills. Brother, you don't even
buy toys. What are we talking?

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Bills didn't come up, not once in this whole discussion,
did not and nobody said something bills.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Camera was on her because I was distracted.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Yeah, he should have said he should. Now if he
would have said, I've helped I pay half the rent,
then I'm like, okay, now we were cooking because because
now you can make an argument like, man, it's my
house and the kids can't just do what they want
and not respect me when you ain't there, that's crazy.
I gotta wait for you to get home to be
like put the toys down. But he didn't even get

(01:24:42):
to that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Point, right, And that's that's why I the caption was misleading, right,
That's why I talk about the conversation should have been
more of that part up front and then her rent.
Her rent was already crazy, but it would have looked
even more crazy if he would have kind of put
that up front.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Like so the so it could be real, like I
like I think. And part of the reason I think
it could be real because the argument is kind of whacking.
It fizzled out at the end, which is you know,
arguments with crazy people, that's how they end. They don't
be they don't end on gotchas, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Like it's not a mic drop, right, so, like it

(01:25:20):
just it just kind of ended with like take me home.
It's like, all right, take you home or whatever, but
always right right.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
That didn't say we always argue.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
It was like, oh so this is a Tuesday, right.
But the main the main issue for me is that
they don't give you enough for you to side with
the woman. And I feel like every good gender wars
should be fifty fifty. You should kind of see where
both people coming from grade and you should also kind
of be disgusted with both people. You should you shouldn't
be leaving this like that brother need to get away

(01:25:50):
from her. You should be leaving like they both need
to leave each other, or they both need to shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
I don't even get that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
So I'm gonna go with the four as well, cause
you know, but man, I was rooting for them in
the beginning to have a good like a good man
and I would do a good battle. And to that
fan that sent it in, I'll see why you send
it in, like's it is worth judging because you know
a lot of times y'all send in the worst ones,
and I'll be like.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
Sometimes they be wacky, y'all. I'm not even gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
I'll be like, yeah, but that was a good one
whoever submitted that. All right, very last thing. We do
another thing called soord ratchetness when we talk about swords
and we try to tell people we're trying to get
gun control in America, but honestly, we don't even have
soord control. So we gotta spread a little bit of awareness. Now,

(01:26:39):
this is a long twenty five second sound effect that
I'm gonna play. Just Grant and Barrett is part of it.

(01:27:05):
Sword ratchetness.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
Did he falls off his horse?

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Twist? This one comes from Australia. Okay, all the way
across the globe. Good day, mates, be careful like that.
Shout out to Woga twist. As police called to Melbourne
Southland shopping Center as a man arrived with a sword.
Oh Police officers who rushed to a busy Melbourne shopping

(01:27:29):
center to reports of a knife wilder man were surprised
at what they were confronted with. Now, how would you
be surprised if they called you to be like it's
anyway okay. The cause of the officers from security came
at seven to twenty pm on a Wednesday, after an
armed man was seen walking around the Southland Shopping Center
in the city southeast with lights and sirens on. Police

(01:27:51):
rushed to the center and found a twenty four year
old outside of the Village Cinemas, But as soon as
they laid eyes on them, they realized he was dressed
in a costume complete with life a lifelike imitation sword.
So he was oh my guy, he was a cosplayer.
He was dressing Demon Slayer, uh the movie. So he

(01:28:13):
had came to see the movie. We just went to
see Demon Slayer the Infinity casts and people dress up
for that, and so he was actually just there in cosplay.
And they seized the fake sword and said it was
best to leave all weaponry at home like next time,
and the officers, being a little snarky, said no demons
were slayed, and the man enjoyed watching the movie without
further incident. So the sword he real is a fake

(01:28:36):
sword and he was just cosplaying.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
But it probably cost peple of panic because they'd be like,
you got a sword.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Even and listen. It hurts me to say. I'm a
huge anime fan. Okay, I love Demon Slay. We just
I like nerdy stuff. I like when people go to
cons but lead a damn sword at home. Man, what's
wrong with you? Like this, they don't know it's fake.
You could have got man, Yes, you could be dead

(01:29:02):
because you're a big fan. That's crazy, Like what would
you what would you have done some anime with a
gun in it. You're gonna bring a fake gun like
that's there's a level.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
To this does not work well, that does not well?

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Right, So like, yeah, you play with your life homework.
I'm glad to Australian police not as trigger happy as
America because you ain't that the truth. You would have
definitely got you. Come on, man, they would have seen
if you could block with that sword dog don't do it.
But yeah, so make sure you guys be safe out
there listening. Tell everybody once again where to go to

(01:29:36):
go to the gala to give to all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
Yes, yes, visit us at www dot a Giving Heart
Project dot org, a Giving Heart Project dot org. You
can follow us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok a Giving Heart Project,
a g HP at a g H project on x
but we would love for you to just connect with us.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Well, thank y'all for coming. It was great seeing y'all.
I'm sure we'll see y'all outside handles at some point. Yeah, right, yeah,
We appreciate y'all, man, And like I said, man, I'm
so proud of y'all, man, just because what y'all doing
is so dope, and y'all been doing it for a minute,
like you know what I'm saying, Like it's I would
have totally understood if it was like, man, we tried,

(01:30:25):
we gave it a year, but y'all like it's twenty
twenty five, y'all been doing this thing seven years. Man,
that's so dope. For the rest of y'all, we'll be
back throughout the rest of the week. We appreciate y'all,
and we'll have all kinds of crazy stuff to talk
about tomorrow for sure. Until next time, I love you,
I love you, Fly

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