3163: Born and Raised

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to start to show off. It is pure lot. Now
let's get into the first episode of the week, thirty
one sixty The Absolute Value of Charlie Kirk, which was
a feedback episode. We had four comments you'll be in
the first two of them interesting to hear about the
role of church in the black community and communists Poland.

(08:32):
The church was also a place where people could flee
the communist world, at least for a short time, and
it's and also important for supporting the opposition, so it
played an important role. This is one of the reasons
why Polish people tend to be extra Catholic. Social media
radicalizes many people without them without having them notice it.
In my opinion, the COVID deniers scheme formed on the

(08:52):
internet is partly responsible for the current politics. Oh absolutely, absolutely,
Like I mean, the fact that at our highest levels
of health in our government rfk Jr, a vaccine denier
is in charge, is proof of the weaponization of social
media division people clicking up confirmation bias, all that stuff.

(09:17):
Because these people is you cannot convince them that they're wrong,
and they will not even consider that they're wrong, and
in their minds they have a bunch of confirmation the
other way. And it's talan all is calling causing autism
and vaccines are causing autism, and you know, and it's
so fucked up because conservatism and racism and all these

(09:40):
isms are in it to the point where r. FK Jr.
Is like, I'm gonna make America healthy again. And this
is the same people who rejected Michelle Obama for wanting
kids to be helpy. It makes no sense, like it
just is confirmation, bias and division, and and there's I

(10:01):
don't know how you reach these people because, as you said,
they've been radicalized, for lack of a better word, and
it's all through the Internet, through social media. It's really sad,
she says. The men's dick pills after forty is the
menopause for women at this age, the algorithm has decided
this is it. Dick pill seemed like so much more fun,

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and I think it's important to talk about menopause and
women's health is often too little research overall. On the
other side, when is the age as a woman where
you are not in a problematic age? Was it the
one month when I was thirty nine? I wish I
knew it then to enjoy it more.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Who who knows?

Speaker 1 (10:41):
But I do believe that more study needs to be
done about menopause. You know, there are some things that
you know, they just knowing it that the wild part
is that it varies perverse, and that's kind of the
wild part.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
And I think that's what makes.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
It very difficult, you know, to actually be like, here
are all of the symptoms, because the symptoms can be
all over the place, and the symptoms can be just
simple things. That's like you don't even recognize and or
realize at the time.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you. And we know for a factor,
you know that the doctors and stuff, they do more
things with men. You know, they tend to study men more.
There's more men doctors, like you know, all these biases
and privileges and stuff affect everything throughout society. Says, of course,
I don't think slavery equals communism, but I hope you

(11:32):
didn't think I would. I did not know. That's just
your brain working that way. But I wasn't even thinking that.
Just that church in Poland has had also more functions. Yeah,
I mean it's interesting because church has been a place
of resistance in many cultures, but it's also been a
place of oppression and holding people down and dominating folks

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in many cultures. It's you know, and one person. You know,
it's like Calvinism or something like. At one time Calvinism
could be seen as like, okay, we are rebelling, and
then another time it's like no dancing, We will beat
the shit out of you for singing in church, and
it's like whoa what, Wait a minute? What turned everything
in a footnoos even E says, you broke down absolute

(12:16):
value perfectly. One of the reasons Sinclair and New Star
Media was unable to air Charlie Kirk special on TV
television is because they didn't have anything of value that
he actually said that they could air without exposing him
for who he really was. Yeah, they put it on
YouTube and I didn't watch it. My imagination is that
it's probably some collection of platitudes and then people talking

(12:36):
about Charlie Kirk without saying who he was and what
he was about. Agreed, It's sad, It's really sad, and
you know, like I said, when people say he's their MLK,
it's about absolute value. But you know, I think about
these things a lot. And one of the things I
didn't get to mention when I brought up that point,

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we also DEFANGEDMAK right, like MLK is an absolute value proposition.
At this point, the people keeping that torch alive are
mostly black people and leftists that bring up his actual
words of like here's how he felt about the white moderate,
here's how he felt about Vietnam, here's how he felt
about economics. But in general, MLK might as well be

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Santa Claus. He might as well be the Easter Bunny,
like he might as well be a pokemon. We're just
when the FBI is pulling him out to be like
it's MLK Day happened, and you're like, you guys fucking
had tapped his phones and all this type like it
it means nothing. With Republicans who are against civil rights
today pull him out to be like what a great

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man that, it literally means nothing. It might as well
be a shake of our T shirt to them. They
don't care what he stood for for real, And that's
what is happening the opposite way. But with Charlie Kirk.
They're gonna put him on T shirts and they're gonna
say we should honor and recognize this man. They're gonna,
you know, let's put him on a dime or a
quarter or some shit. But they're never going to acknowledge

(14:06):
what he actually stood for, because that is not a
message that anyone wants to truly reckon with or be
hell responsible for. And or I should say, with MLK,
it's not a message people want to reckon with, and
with Charlie Kirk, it's not a message people want to
be held responsible for. Her for agreeing with.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
One hundred percent agree.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
The right relies on plausible deniability. They can't deny it
when the words from his own mouth are repeat it,
so they fall back on he was a father, he
was young, he was a patriot. It's been over a
week now. People have already stopped talking about this dude.
That's what's been surprising. This felt like the biggest thing
in the world a couple of weeks ago, and like
there was a red Scare type thing and it doesn't.
I mean, worse things are happening every day that really

(14:51):
actually affect us on a much deeper level. Than Charlie Kirk,
but even the people that were trying to capitalize off
of his name. And I'm gonna host this podcast, radio
slash radio show or whatever I'm gonna i ain't gonna
get them. I'm gonna raise money and we're gonna go
get the people who didn't really do this, but that

(15:11):
we're saying did this, it's already died down even the
furtheror like we're going after people who just talk about
him and tell the truth, even that's died down. They
you know, like you're seeing now, it's been a week
and every every day I'm reading a new article teacher reinstated, professor,
brought back job, you know, person giving a job back.
Because it's like people were just tripping because they were

(15:32):
capitalizing off the emotional immediacy of what was happening. But
as soon as the smoke cleared, there was like there's
no there there. It's okay that people do not uh,
it's okay that there are people who will not put
this man on a pedestal because of the way he died,
because they remember the way.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
He lived, right, and the way somebody lives does matter,
you know, people like to erase that because most people
have a fear of death, don't understand death, you know
them think about their own morality mortality, I mean im
not morality mortality. So they like, well, I don't want
to know why I talk about it about me when
I die type of thing, Like I really do think

(16:11):
that that's what that comes from. Where people say this,
don't talk end of the day blah blah blah blah blah.
But also you lived and people witnessed your life, so
people can say, yes, you've died. I might not agree
with it orm I not like you losing your life,
but I cannot erase what I saw while you were
still here.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, and it was a shocking, emotional thing that people
shouldn't have to witness. You watched a murder. I think
there's something very real about and visceral about that that
I don't judge people's reaction of one of like shock
and disgust and sadness and fear and all the other
stuff I think we do too. That's that is another

(16:55):
way that social media has radical us and made us
unempathetic and made us made us so unable to process
and respond to things that are shocking because we're shocked
all the time. It's so normalized. I've seen so many

(17:17):
black people down on camera that seeing a white man
assassinated is just another on a long list of things
I wish I had not seen on social media. You
see what I'm saying. And so for some people's reaction
to be one of fear, sadness, crying, empathy, you know
that I get it because you just watched something shocking,

(17:39):
and who the fuck is anybody to tell you the
same way I wouldn't tell somebody you better mourn him.
I don't feel that I should tell somebody you better
not feel sad about this moment. This is a that
was a sad, shocking thing that people witness and demanding
that they don't be human is just to me as
inhumane as as demanding that they perform something.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
For you agreed, And I think with social media and
the way a lot of things go, a lot of
like you said, over the years, we've been desensitized. I've
always said, and I will continue to say this, the
algorithm does not care about you as a human being.
If showing you dead black people dying in the street
gets you talking and gets you clicking, and gets you promoting.

(18:25):
It gets you between The algorithm does not care about yes,
the mental, spiritual you know, yeah, how it breaks you
down as a person. It doesn't care. It doesn't have
to care. It doesn't have no morality, you know, it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Have no boundaries.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
What will keep you scrolling?

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
All it cares about numbers and numbers is interactions good
and or bad? Like you said, everything is positive. You
tweet angry that's positive. You treat sad that's positive, You
treat happy that's positive, or post whatever like like.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
It does not. It's fair.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's the absolute value, right right? How many seconds will
you spend I don't care how it's affecting your brain?
How many seconds will you spend on social media scrolling?
And whether you're getting angry about it or not. I
don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
You know, anyway, it's not a person, So why to
watch shuit? It cares. It's ones and zeros.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
We did get one comment on Spotify. I thought I
read them this week, as we only did three episodes.
Me says, I appreciate you'all podcast, thank you for taking
the time out of your days to do it. I
don't normally listen to your feedback pods. I may may
not listen when you have guests, but I live for
y'all's politics till we get mad segment. Thank you for
the bottom of my left ventricle for that segment, and
then level out my anger with guest the race. Well,

(19:41):
I'm glad you appreciate it. And uh, you know, we
know some people. We can do a lot of episodes
people cherry picking and out. It's no Thanksgiving, But yeah,
I'm glad you enjoyed that episode.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Me too.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
U dark Namda on YouTube says I lived through JFK
MLK RFK assassinations and c K his death was not
as significant for me personally. Good feedback show, Thanks no problem.
DXL twenty two says I love the feedback episodes. I
love so five and these episodes are like time traveling.
Thanks for the weekly trip down memory laying five star

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review on the way. Thanks buddy. I always feel like,
you know, like I said, it's kind of interesting because
if you wor a person, it's like, I don't want
to listen to every episode. In my mind, I would
start with the feedback episode every week and then see like,
oh shit, something happened on Tuesday. Let me go back
to that episode.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
It was like a recap of the week.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, but you know, everybody to each their own, you know.
J Full says, I was really curious how the episode
title came about, and holy fuck, incredible, brilliant. Thanks j Full.
You know, I'll do my thing every once in a while. Itally,
the goat says, absolute value sums it up perfectly. As
an accountant, I approve. Also, I agree with your comments
on empathy. It seems people are definitely more transactional with

(20:56):
their emotions these days, and it's probably going to get worse.
Everybody to stay safe and can serve any piece you have. Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
And also it's really really wound.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Because, like you say, everybody thinks everything is so transactional
that sometimes when you just want to be friends, just
flat friends with no strings attached, everybody thinks you're a
weird one or you an odd ball, Like you just
want to be friends, you know, not trying to use them,
You're not trying to get anything out of them, You're
not looking at their social status or where they are.

(21:29):
You're like, you're a cool person. I just want to
quote unquote be your friend, and the world we live
in today that's almost frowned upon, like if this person
isn't quote unquote benefiting you, bringing something into your life,
almost like you cut them off and you get rid
of them, but you end up losing that on a
lot of treasures in your life by just looking and
being like, oh, well, you can't better fit may.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
By Yeah, I feel you. I think I don't know
if we're at a place where it makes you a
weirdo don't want to be friends. I don't. I mean,
I just think social media wise, everything because of the
nature of the venue, it has to be transactional, because

(22:12):
everything's quantified. I mean, I know how many likes you had,
I know who looked at my Instagram stories. People start
tracking that shit, you know what I'm saying, and so
like it makes your brain change, Like like if you start,
if you exist there in enough with enough time, it
changes your value system. But you're not you're not Like

(22:36):
I'm not saying you're wrong. I don't think that we're
the weirdos. I just think that's there's no way to
quantify the vast amount of people who don't operate like that,
Like why we even use the measure that we're not
like that there's no measurement for I'm just a normal
person that you know. If I dig you, we talk
and we hang out. But what I will say, though,

(22:57):
is the trans actional nature of how people talk, even
when they weaponize therapy words and shit. And you know,
especially when you see people spiral out online when you
see what they call like vague booking. The amount of
times I've seen somebody that must have been going through
something but they were like, it's like the way they

(23:20):
everything's being quantified, I guess is what I'm saying, Everything's
a number, Like when you see people say stuff like
it was emotional labor to listen to my friend. To me,
I would never even think like that, Like it doesn't
even approach my brain. If my friend calls me and
they are my friend and they want to talk about
life and they're going through something, there's no meter, like

(23:42):
there's no taxi cab meter that is ticking up, going, well,
it's been ten minutes, and then you haven't asked me
about me. So I totally get that those things have
either become more broadcast because we can now reveal our
innermost thoughts that we probably should keep our fucking selves
but we're broadcasting those things or or or we're literally

(24:05):
having our brains changed to where we're counting those things
in ways that we used to not count as much.
We've all had the emotional vampire person like those people exist.
I'm not denying that, but often what I realize is,
this isn't my friend. Instead of it being like, whoa,
you got ten minutes to complain, now it's my turn,
I just go, oh, this isn't my friend. This person's

(24:27):
just sucking me dry. And that's and then I don't
need to make a post about it. We just don't talk.
I just stop picking up the phone. I'll be okay,
they'll be okay, they'll find somebody else. They can do
that too, agreed, and they won't be able to you
know anyway. But yeah, I feel you though. It's definitely
changed something because we maybe it's more popular or maybe
people always stopt this way, but we definitely weren't broadcasting it.

(24:48):
It did used to be and maybe it still is.
But you were the weirdo for being like the emotional
labor of listening to my best friend complain about her husband.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
It's like, like, y'all, are y'all real friends.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Why are you telling me I'm a stranger on the
internet right right right?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Why why? I mean your personal business?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
And because I like to I'm not gonna say simplify things.
I'm on things that make sense in my brain. And
so for me, it's like that was kind of my
breakdown on how I got to that, you know, kind
of conclusion because you know, like like I said, in
my mind, uh, there's always been people that tally didn't
counted and ship like that, like even prior to the Internet,

(25:26):
and I just didn't eye person, didn't fuck with them
people because like, bitch, I want a friendship, I don't
want I want.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
No used to she used to be.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
The way you found out was you would have to
befriend that person and then you would realize, oh wait,
this person, I don't even know if they.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Like me, right, you know, why am I here? And
then and then I'd be like I know how to
hit the eject button.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, well you not always, but you learn.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah you're not always, yeah, but but like this, you
live and you learn. It's like like anything else, you
don't know what you don't know till you know, and
you don't know what your boundaries are until they're crossed.
And so but once you reach a certain age, you
have a tendency you've experienced shit, so you pick up
on shit a little bit earlier and quicker and faster.
So you but no, no, no, no, this ain't gonna mash.

(26:09):
You can going back like like, you can prevent things
from happening sometimes by just being more alert.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Meeks seventy six says you were both on point the
whole episode. But Karen at the fifty three minute mark
said something that I personally have not heard anyone really
say regarding that empathy what empathy gets them? And Ride
at the fifty seven mark regarding the MLK point, Wow,
thank you buddy, that's what we do. Uh, Nick the
scientist has clearly Ezra Klein wishes he was the left

(26:38):
version of c K. Shaking my head, yes he does,
him admitting that he him, admitting that he envy what
Charlie Kirk built. I just think it's such a such
a huge tale about what kind of person Ezra client
is and value system that he holds because and I
don't mean it in this way of like because he's

(27:00):
such a bad person, he's evil, and he fucking he
actually hates us. I just mean, like his value system
because of what he does for a living is like,
I need an audience, I need engagement, I need attention.
I want debate at all costs, and this guy had
done that And I can't quote a single fucking word

(27:23):
that this man ever said that show why he warranted
this success. But I want that for myself.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, And to me, the israrime isra clin thing is
very disappointing for me personally because I'm looking like, but
what about your audience, So the audience that you've built
up on your own in the way that you have
fucked them, and like, to me, this is very insulted
because you're going, I want what he got, Well, you

(27:50):
actually have a platform.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Well, he thinks he's building that, I think is what
that says. He thinks that what he's debating Joe Biden's
mental health, bringing on concerns so he can go back
and forth with them in a very polite way, no
matter how abhorrent their views may be. I think he
thinks he's building a Charlie Kirk thing. But one of

(28:12):
the things I think they envious almost the quote unquote
rock star And I'm only using rock star in the
in their parlance, because he's like, it's obviously still a
very nerdy thing that Charlie Kirk was doing. It wasn't
necessarily cool, but in the political sphere, that's a rock star.
He's got young college people coming out that tell him
you're wrong, and he's going, no, I'm right. But look

(28:33):
at how many of these college kids turned out, even
if they fucking hate them. You see what I'm saying.
So like that there's a the value system he's talking
about is one of just audience and not the message
that is being relayed to the audience.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
And so so you're telling me you don't care.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, And it's a very white type of view, right.
It's how white people can do things like look at
a jury of twelve people, and if they see six
black people on the jury, they're like, oh god, this
jury is gonna be biased. But if they saw twelve
white people, they would think that's a good jury. Is
they don't even understand their own.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Privilege, right, And I think you hit it on the head.
It's that white privilege. And so a lot of times,
like you said, that's when my disappointment comes in because
it's like well, what about.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
What about the other people?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
There aren't these white nationalists hate hating the same people
that you are quote unquote supposed to be standing for
and you're supposed to be representing in your speech and your.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Language and things like that.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
That's what my disappointment is because in my mind you said, oh,
fuck me, I would rather put like this if I had.
In other words, you're telling me, if I had to
chance the chance to be this, that's what I would be.
And if that meant I had to forsake some of
my audience, I would do that in chasing a larger audience.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
And so for me as insulting and it's disappointing.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
As somebody who has listened to him and I stopped
after the election, but as somebody who has listened to
him for a long time, I'm going, Oh, this is
what you truly think about me. I know that's something
white folks don't think about, but in my mind, I go, oh,
this is what you truly think about me.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, I like I said, I don't know. I don't
know what he thinks about black people. You know, I
don't know what he thinks about gay people. I don't
know what he thinks about anybody. I think what I
know for sure is that he values that having an
audience over all of that, and so it's like the bigger,

(30:29):
the following, the better, the more his message is spreading.
I guess I don't. I just can't. And there's a
lot of people like that, you know. I think that's
actually way more normal than the way we operate, where
it's like we're going to have a small, very dedicated
audience that trusting, loves us and lets us grow and
breathe and think. But they know that we're not just

(30:51):
here to just dismiss their humanity. We're not here just
to debate. We're not here to act like all sides
are bad or equally bad or what I And that
is a much smaller and less exponential way to grow,
Whereas if we were just yeah, if we were just
showing up places where have changed my mind sign or

(31:13):
being complete fucking dicks to people and trolling people and
anything for popularity, I guess maybe people would feel that way.
It reminds me of ESPN just recently got into WWE
deal with wrestling and so on ESPN and the morning shows,

(31:34):
which I watched the morning shows in the background all
the time, and in the morning they'll have like all
the sports stuff that they do. Right, it's like, oh,
Eagles versus Niners coming up, you know we're gonna break down,
you know whatever, dumb question another morning. You know which
quarterback would you rather have on first and ten? Jalen
Hurts or Tom Brady? Right, But what I think is

(31:55):
interesting is that now because they have wrestling every so often,
they just have a wrestler come on, and it's never
really comfortable to do the promo because wrestling is fake.
Yeah I said it, but it But while the athleticism
is real, yeah, like, but the actual result is scripted.

(32:17):
It's not. It's not the same as their sports show.
You know, you don't know, like there is no in
the fourth quarters, Taylor, I mean, Jason Tatum will definitely
hit this three pointer to win the game, because that
is the way that we wrote it down. No matter
how people might gamble or think something is rig but
we know for a fact that you know, those outcomes

(32:38):
are in jeopardy. But they're not in the sports business anymore.
They're in the content business. Wrestling is great content because
people will watch it. That's what content is. Content means
content by definition is simply a thing that people will watch. Right,

(33:00):
does it have to have artistic merit? Does it have
to be a real sport. What they are doing is
just buying up anything people will watch. It's why they
have Pat McAfee on. Agree's not that Pat McAfee is
in sports, it doesn't it, but he's more importantly, he's
a thing people will watch. So while they would have
never allowed one of their actual sports shows before Pat

(33:20):
McAfee to have Aaron Rodgers on spreading vaccine misinformation and
never challenging the CDC and challenging doctor Fauci and bringing
up politics, they would have literally like gotten they have
fired people for less. When you're in the content business,
you go, what a great segment that's going viral on
Facebook and YouTube. Millions of people tuned in to watch that,

(33:43):
And it doesn't matter what the morality of the segment was,
It doesn't matter what the fallout is. That is all
that to say, in a roundabout way, that is what
I felt Ezra Clined is saying about himself when he
looks up to Charlie Kirk, I actually don't have a
mess your platform, or if I do it's not that important.
What's most important is the eyeballs watching the content is

(34:07):
more important. I know people didn't like when I said
this on Twitter. I feel the same with Medi Hassan
going on to Jubilee, because you are essentially saying the
eyes are more important than the value of what I've
actually done to society. Right, So the fact that I've
actually platformed biggest, some of them raising money off of,
you know, off of the fact that they were on

(34:30):
there being a vowed white supremacist. I'm gonna have to
wait to see if that was a good or bad thing.
Is his word to see, his words, not mine, and
I and he may have done subsequent interviews, but this
is the one I heard on I think it was media.
On the media, we're you're now a monkey with a

(34:50):
AK forty seven, You're you now are you're you're dangerous
in a way. And then and maybe we y'all are
out here in that same way, but you're just shooting
and seeing what's gonna happen. And that's what Ezra Kleine
felt like to me when he said that about Charlie
Kirk And couldn't say a single word that that man ever.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Said, right, And like I said, and I think that's
what I feel the way I feel because it's like, Okay,
you admire a man that you can't even say his quotes. Yeah,
you admire man who was a racist, who was bigoted,
who hated a lot of the audience that listens to you.
And like I said, you quote unquote claim you represent
and I think that's what it.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
But does he claim you represent those people? That's the
thing you keep saying stuff. And I'm like, I don't
know why you think you know his values. I don't
know that Ezra Klin has ever espoused anything that would
make me go, this is a righteous man with good
values that I would align with. I think he hasn't
said anything repugnant, Okay, but I don't know that that

(35:50):
man's values are even in a place where we should assume, well,
he's thinking of his LGBTQ, brown, white liberal audience. I
don't know that he is. If anything, I think we
have a lot of evidence over the years that he
kind of low key feels like a performative objectivity type

(36:12):
of guy, where it's like these Democrats, that's what's really
the problem, and a little less stringent on the Republicans.
I still remember he wrote a whole essay about Trump
that you know, it's Trump is lying. He's like, but
it's the authenticity of the lies. It's like, I don't
know what this man's belief systems are.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
You know, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I but like this, because he wasn't coming out and
saying I hate black alb Because he wasn't coming out
and saying that, I was just under the impression this
is just me that I was like, Okay, you ain't
out here talking bigger than shit, so I guess.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
And so for me, I was like, well, don't you
represent You're right, he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I don't know how he really feels. I don't know
what his real beliefs are. And like you say, a
lot of his shit is borderline, and like you say,
a lot of his shit is over Over over the years,
it became anti Joe Biden, anti this, anti that, and
I'm like, okay, you know, and I think those are
the things that turned me off. Instead of talking about
the real shit that was happening with like Donald Trump

(37:12):
and all this shit we we we we were hearing
for for months on end about Joe Biden stepping down
or I was here, I was hearing uh uh uh
things about hey, what about these white farmers in Wisconsin
losing their farms? I don't give a fuck about them, bitch.
Let's let's talk about some real shit happening. And so, yes,
I I think I'm just very very mad and angry

(37:35):
and disappointed in what he says. And I put my
I put my feelings of him almost being a clean
slate and just and just assumed. But I can't assume,
cause I don't really know how that man feels. And
so for me, I'm gone and I will never be back.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Kay, I'm just gonna sub just because the fact you
actually tip is mind blowing. I don't know if this
is a person that's trolling us. So they think it's
funny or whatever. Their avatar is like a frog that
pepe frog or whatever it says. I wake up and
I engage in tom foolery. They only have three creative

(38:16):
playlists of music, so I don't know if it's just
like we talked about Charlie Kirk, and here comes a
racist trying to say something funny.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, then hop on over there somewhere else can leave
me long.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Let's hide them from the channel. Just in case, let's
err on the side of fuck them. Kim Doc says,
as a child of Jamaican parents, steak and beef was
always cooked for hours, so it was super well done.
In my mind, I felt conditioned to always get burgers
and steak well done because also as an NYC kid,
food poison in salmonella outbreaks on the news daily. Imagine

(38:45):
my other surprise at the being attacked in shame for
when I order in the steak well done at a restaurant.
We need to talk about the weird shaming and peer
pressure to eat steak in the way we don't want to.
Even when I was living in France for two months,
the steaks were nearly bloody. No way I was eating that.
But to eat there, to each to eat their own,
but to each their own. No yuckin the youngs here,

(39:05):
Let's give more grace and compassion for people who want
rubbery steaks. You don't want to choose my steak. You
don't have to choose my steak. Lol. By the way,
I've compromised the medium well, so it's not to get
completely shotted down. My friends. It's crazy out here. M
that's difficult. Because it's a couple of things happening there. One,

(39:26):
it's people wanting the best for you. So it's not
necessarily people shaming you out of like well done steak,
you know you're a bad person as much as them
being like when you like to taste the steak, when
you like to eat any mistake, you don't have to
pour a one sauce on. Also, because of different advancements

(39:54):
scientifically and food wise, we know that you're not going
to die from a medium steak. Like it's not like
people are like, you have to get this bloody rare.
But even those people that eat rare steaks and stuff,
I mean, they're very rarely what they have an issue.
You know, we do have standards in food service industry

(40:15):
to keep restaurants from going out of business from people
don't feeling everybody right just eating around meat every day.
So that being said, I think it also depends on
how I don't know, if you're embellishing and being funnier
you really feel completely this way, I'm treating it as
if it's serious. I don't know how. I don't know

(40:38):
how hard people go on you for that, but it
is objectively funny and black to me like I worked
in a restaurant that serves steaks. Black people love well
done steaks. It's funny to me in the same way
that so many other things we talk about as black
people are as funny to me. We joke about it,
but we love and accept it, you know. So I

(41:03):
this is one of those things where it just really
depends on your mentality and trust system, because you know
the same way that people might joke me because I
can't dance well, I accept and love black people. I
don't go, oh my god, don't try to shame me
in the learning to dance. I'll be like, Okay, yeah,
I can't dance. It's funny, you know it is, so
I don't. I don't know that I would take it

(41:24):
that way that seriously, but yeah, I used to get
my steaks well done, and then some people had me
tried not as well done, and then I was like,
oh my god.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
The last thing I will say is I think with
a burger is different because I know ground beef is
not some shit you should be eating rare and all
that stuff. I typically get my burgers, you know, done.
I don't go well done because I don't I don't
want like a brisket. I mean like a brick. Yeah,

(41:59):
but I can book yeah medium, Well, you know, so
I want my burger to be done all the way through.
But yeah, to each their own. But I see it
as playful ribbing. It's kind of like sugar grits for me.
If it goes beyond that, I don't, you know, I
don't know, so hopefully kim Doc's just kind of tongue
in cheek joking. And also, I mean, I don't know

(42:22):
how you can't say it's funny that fucking SNL sketch
with the state is. There's a reason that's hilarious, and
you and you and you deep down know why uh
ship was funny. Uh Nick says, I apologize world. It
was my week to leave a five star review. Someone
please update the Google calendar. Still haven't figured out how

(42:44):
to update my last five stars, so please accept these
six stars because Apple only gives me five. Thanks man,
But that don't count. You gotta go find an Apple
thing if you wanted.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
To count creating a count.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Luckily, people already took care of it for you. So
you're gonna be good today. You're good this week, But
don't let it happen again because we will put the
commercials in there. All right, let's get to uh, let's
take a break after Oh, you know, have you ever
had the peach? Have you had the peach? Heat chicken?

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Yet?

Speaker 3 (43:18):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Nine percent of our audience is not. Seven percent has
shout out to the seven percent. We all we got? Okay,
we keep it.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
We got.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
We know what we know the finer things in life,
like stakes that aren't made to destroy your you know, tables.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
All right, let's strong on that table.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, let's uh, let's come right back, guys, we'll be
right back. All right. That's called reminisce. I don't know

(44:18):
if that's about DJ Jaffa, but it sounds like it,
all right, thirty one sixty one. We all we got?
We got faux comments. Ramsey DJing and says we are
living in the upside down world. Thank goodness for we
have y'all five stars. Classic R and B Lover says,
regarding the pole, this is a soapbox box issue for me,
so feel free to ignore it. Okay, cool, I will ignore.

(44:38):
Moving on. It was due you round up when nasdet
to check out, And of course I want to ignore
I used to round up, but no longer do my.
Most corporations pay little to no taxes, so that allow
them to make charitable donations off the backs of the
various citizens that gleefully deprive our resources every day. They
deprive resources every day with the added bonus of providing
them with a tax right off that further minimalizes that

(44:59):
financial contribution to society as a practice, I can no
longer get here too. I said that on the show
a few times, and people wrote in to correct me,
to say that that is not what happens. They actually
cannot write this off of their taxes as their money.
I mean, I'm not gonna tell them that wrong if
they're like, you fact checked me and you said that
was right, So I'll never say that again. But even

(45:19):
with that, it doesn't feel like if I'm gonna give
money to charity, then just let me do it. It's
weird to do the round up thing, but it is
good for the company's pr image, so it's it helps
the company to look like they care about you know,
Saint Juves or whatever it is, even though they technically
didn't do a damn thing. They asked you to give

(45:40):
the money. But yeah, I don't. I don't so all
that to say. I don't believe it is a thing
where they layer it's a tax shelter. It's from my understanding.
But yeah, corporations in America, they have so many benefits
in so many ways to get out of tax responsibilities
to the rest of us. That yeah, it definitely feels icky,

(46:03):
you know, But but yeah, I get it. Maybe, you know.
I'm sure if I was one of these charities, I'd
be like, I don't give a fuck if it feels
icky to you. This is what's helping the kids. We
do get the money and it's better for us, you know.
Obvio says, I'm happy for everyone who got rehired and
got double the money at least all the stress. At
least for all the stress and the drama. What is

(46:23):
Eli doing now, by the way, he doesn't seem to
get rehired. Well, he just had a deal go through
where groc his AI is going to be using some
sort of government capacity. So he's still out there. He
showed up at Charlie Kirk's funeral slash Trump's rally speech,
so he's out there still paling around with these people.

(46:49):
I think one of the one of the things that
people on the left wish cast like we want to
be true, but I just don't see any evidence that
it's actually true. It's all these interpersonal conflicts that are
supposed to lead to these huge ego men no longer
fucking the rest of us because they're fucking each other.

(47:11):
And I think it makes us feel good, like you're
watching an episode of Succession or something. But I never
I don't even get excited about this stuff. You know,
when Pete Haggs f and they're like he might get fired.
He had the group chat league, and I'm like, I
don't know why y'all think that that's gonna happen, or
that anything better or happening. Oh Trump and Elin are
fighting on Twitter. Yeah, but then like three months later

(47:32):
they'll be friends. I remember saying that when they were fighting, like, yes,
you want to feel optimistic, but we knew they weren't buddies.
We knew they were both thinking they were using each other.
We knew that there would be combustible moments because they're
both combustible people. But the one thing they seen they
agree on is fucking us. Evie says, I'm not surprised

(47:54):
that Sinclair New Star or I think it's Next Star
or something anyway, decided not to air Jimmy Kimmel's return,
and maybe ten years ago that would have been a
devastating blow for the show. But even with the aired
in those markets, the show came back to the highest
ratings they've ever had. I doubt those high ratings will
last because most people watched out of curiosity of what
Jimmy Kimmel will say. But my point is despite Sintclaire

(48:14):
a New Star, owning all these affiliates, they don't really
hold the same power they used to because how so
many people have cut the cord and no longer have cable.
I don't watch network stations anymore, and I guess a
big chunk of people are under a certain age you
don't either. That's true with what so many streaming services,
people have alternative viewing choices. The local channel watchers on

(48:37):
regular cable and analog television is dying out. These tactics
of not airing shows they don't agree with won't work
as effectively as it used to. Now. This isn't say
that kim Wi's show won't eventually go away either, because
late night television in general, it's also a dying institution. Yeah.
The only thing I would add is they are going
to air Jimmy Kimmel now because ABC slash Disney controls football,

(49:03):
and that affiliates that street works both ways, So you
won't air our stuff. It's not just gonna be how
you decide you don't want to air our shit, that
we won't send you Monday night football, we won't send
you to college Game of the week, now, what bitch?
Because football is the opiate of the masses. And while

(49:26):
you may have people that don't give a fuck about
Jimmy Kimmel or give a fuck about Charlie Kirk and
it ain't up at eleven o'clock at night to care
who the fuck dick measuring contests winning, but they do
care about getting their sports. They need that.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Fix when they turn it on and that game ain't
on and they looking at a big ass sign, talk
about it's your fault, right, they're gonna be in your ass.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
And so yeah, it's all back now, they've already decided
that it's back, So I'm not surprised at all. Let's
see YouTube. We got twenty comments. Oh my god, well,
who's talking about provocative? Af says he My favorite Podca
Damien says, hey, Rod, I don't disagree with either of
your overall points about Mom Donnie getting elected means very

(50:06):
little to us living outside of New York City, But
what might apply to us is residents of other communities.
He was talking about freezing rent prices, which could be
game changing, especially if it can be pulled off in
one of the biggest cities in America. They had a
rent control on the ballot there here in California and November,
but unfortunately it failed. All kinds of landlord associations Hoa's

(50:26):
and Alite Group spent a lot of money to get
the outcome they wanted to which I did reply, that
only matters if your local mayor emulates what the mayor
of New York City is doing something something that we
really don't see anyone do in other cities. You could
get your mayor to start looking into this sort of
policy right now. You don't need Mom Donnie to win

(50:49):
or lose New York City for this to matter to
your local city. And he said, agreed, agree, you got
a point there. Unfortunately, some mayors would definitely need to
be pressured. My mayor's former police chief, so you know, oh,
he's likely a soft white nationalist and those types especially
like ideas when they come up with them. Yeah, and
so this is my point because and this is why
it was so important, because obviously I'm not against Mom

(51:12):
Donnie at all. I just the idea of this being
important to me is one hundred percent a social media concept, right,
It is not if I did not have Twitter, Mom
Donnie would be a dude I see on the news
every once or reading the newspaper, but it wouldn't be

(51:34):
like something that every time I log on, here's his
latest campaign video, here's Eric Adams lifting ways, here's Cuomo
doing stuff. And the reason that it's showing to me
is not because it's important to me. They're showing it
to me because it's great content. These are This is
like a fucking Simpsons episode running from Mayor. The way
that these three characters are Mom Donnie is very entertaining
as well. You know, New Yorker's love a mayor with

(51:57):
a lot of personality, and he has a lot of
it and they agree with him now, But I remember
when Bill Deblasio was the guy they agree with a lot.
You know, you never know. And Eric Adams, of course
is basically a fucking character out of a cartoon. And
as well as promo. You know, they all they all
very the guys you can do impressions of, you know
what I'm saying, Like those kind of guys they stick

(52:19):
out so all that to say, like, my point was
not about whether their ideas are good or not. My
point was if their ideas are good, they won't affect
me either way. If he gets rent frozen in New
York City, that does not freeze rent in Charlotte. It
doesn't even mean my mayor gives a fuck. But I

(52:39):
can make my mayor give a fuck. Even if the
rent never gets frozen in New York City. I can
make my mayor give a fuck. I can. I can
show up to the meeting. I can suggest it on
the ballot. I can. I can pressure through the primary,
I can pressure through campaign donations. Like it's interesting how

(53:00):
they've convinced us that our clicks and our likes and
our views are the real power, because that's the real
power of content. That's not the real power of politics.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Really, and it shouldn't be right.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
A couple other people responded, I'm not saying I'm against
mont Donnie's ideas. The real problem working against this idea
and as other proposals as the lobbyists outside dark money
will certainly flow in to assure these type of proposals
never get off the ground of Rich and I are
interested in having a private business compete against the government.
He responded. People have more power than we know. We
decide we wanted something bad enough and vote that way.
Money can't do shit. I agree. Eric says it matters

(53:36):
because if one of the largest city can make the change,
so can people in other cities. Sets a tone, so
only cover your city, Eric, I can't imagine being more
obtuse toan what I'm saying, because none of that was
my point. I'm saying you, the person listening to this,
your life will not be changed by what happens in

(53:57):
New York City. It will definitely be affect that by
what happens in your city. And we are are alive.
I've been alive forty seven years. There's no initiative that
happened in Charlotte, North Carolina, because it happened in New
York City. That's not how it works. It happened because
the will of the people here. That's what makes it happen.

(54:18):
There's movements that happen, but if you don't do anything
to localize, to organize, to pushing your own city, to
vocalize what you want here in your city, it won't
come to you. There's no trickle down with this shit.
So a good example is like defund the police. There
are places that defunded the police because they got the

(54:39):
fuck out there and did it. They didn't just go, well,
that's what people want in Minneapolis, so that defund the
police didn't go to everybody did it. None of us
went well, they did it. And you know, even stopping
frisk which happened in New York City, that never happened
in my city. Why did that not happen here? It

(54:59):
happened in New York City is so important, it's one
of the biggest cities. If they can make the change,
y'all can make the change. It didn't happen because we
weren't with that bullshit. So that's all I'm saying. If
you want to try to play some type of weird
gotcha bullshit.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
You can do that.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
But I'm but I think you're smart enough to know
exactly what I meant when I brought up mom Donnie,
and why I don't think him being elected or not
elected matters at all to me in my city, and
why the Internet is pushing that as content to me
because they think I would be interested in the content
of it, regardless of whether or not it actually matters

(55:39):
to me. And I could have used any example, but
I used that example. But there's millions of examples of
them showing me something that doesn't change. How many times
I candice owns video or reaction to a video come
down your timeline, and it's like, I, honest to God,
could have gone my whole life never knowing that, and
I would be Okay. I agreed, Joe, we definitely underestimate bigotry.

(56:02):
I remember watching the interview of this guy talking about
how he doesn't have to deal with police harassing because
he has money and stays out of trouble. He even
called Tatanahasee Coat stupid for saying economic power when I
saw racism, If Raci's heart don't change. I wish I
could remember his name and where I saw that interview.
I can't believe he said that after all the black
towns that were making money and staying out of trouble.

(56:22):
That race is destroyed anyway. Yeah, shout out to Tulsa.
Dark Nam just says the ultimate suction. I probably my
Vanessa del Rio joke. Damien says, Hey, Rod, I'm not
sure if you meant, but you kind of hint it.
Today's epple politics till we get mad was gonna be
a doozy. I don't know. Also, it kind of hard
not to see a day for Kirk as a day
for bigotry, because it's really what he stood for. I'm

(56:46):
extremely disappointed to Dems because Mark Vessey's bill would have
been waged the way to speak out against political violence.
But really, why do they The Republicans watch Melissa Hartman
and her husband get murdered and the other Minnesota and
his wife attacked and there was zero fanfare. The Republicans
could care less about political violence then and now too.

(57:06):
The only difference is the violence can be welded as
a cudgel. Yes, yes, damn Man, completely agree, completely agree.
Nick says, I want proof that the roundup of donations
that stores actually goes to the organization. I'm inclined to
believe that they use our coins for a tax. Right off,
guests will never know. Once again, don't write in to

(57:27):
correct me. Guys, I heard y'all the first time. This
is just what people believe. I can't control that, but
I personally am not saying that. Y'all said the money
go to the places and it's not a tax. Right off.
I'm with it. I'm dropping the ten four hat. Please
don't write in. I could. I don't need another thirty
page letter. Provocative, AF says on the Charlie kirk Day,

(57:47):
Hakeem Jeffers is a leader in name only. I mean,
this guy fucking sucks at every part of the job
of leading the party. Give me Mike Tyson. I don't
know if I want Mike Tyson leader the Democratic Party either,
but I hear what you're saying. I would like a fighter,
and I don't. I think the way he fights is
not It's just it's pleasing to no.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
One, right, So everybody's mad.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, I don't. I don't get the strategy. I really don't,
And I'm sure if I sat down in a room
with him and Schumer they'd have some reason for doing
things the way they do. But I just don't see
it as a thing that appears to be on mac bones.
I don't see it as a thing that appears to
be galvanizing people. And maybe that's maybe it's different offline,

(58:34):
but I don't even see it offline. I don't see
a lack of a lot of support for their positions.
People just feel like they're either capitulating or they're not
making a stand and fighting back. And I'm not saying
on each and every issue there, I'm not one of
these bang on Democrats no matter what they do. People.

(58:54):
So you know, I do respect Corey Booker philibustering. I
do respect I think Jeffries did the same thing. I
respect that, but it just the message does not feel
consistent when you are then telling me no, we have
to like not push back on this Charlie Kirk thing
because it's a trap. And I'm like, and the Republicans

(59:18):
will say that we did this, and I'm like, don't
you got a mic too, you right here using your
voice to tell me that's not what's happening. So why
can't you just not support the Charlie Kirk day say
we did push an initiative to say all political violence
is wrong. And they rejected that you have the same
ability to go out and tell the people what happened.

(59:38):
And I don't want to hear any excuses. I'm tired
of excuses of but the Republicans, but they're lying. Truth
got to mean something. If y'all don't stand on it,
then who the fuck? How can anyone stand on it?

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Agreed?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
You know, I don't know how you're at this point
still him in and Horne about that shit, He says,
thanks to rid of Karv speaking on try Dolly Kirk,
they in depth like he did. Thanks parrocative af the
girl on the other side of the road said, none
of them actually cares about Charlie's death. They are using
him for cloud even his wife is trying to steal
his platform. And I know Trump was so happy when

(01:00:12):
he heard the news. The funny thing is that the
only person who actually cared about him is a black woman.
Candas owners, that's what y'all say. I don't follow candas
owners and to know if that's true, and I never will.
I don't even want to know. No research will be done.
I've seen the video down my timeline of black some
montage of them hanging out together, having fun, and I

(01:00:33):
immediately said unfollowed mute dis account. Meek says, my comment
pertains a discussion at one ten. I've noticed for a
very long time that people would rather everything fall than
see everyone succeed. With kim O, the capitulation was swift,
and it could be that way for everyone who was
unfairly silenced or fired. Others were fired for much less,

(01:00:56):
some for actually doing their job. For people who want
to see the truth, the truth is right there there.
It is an interesting thing because, like, I get that
people are supporting Kimmel, but there were a lot of
people people could have supported. I mean, it hain't to
sound bitter, but like, can you imagine if we had

(01:01:16):
had this level of like support at ground zero in
like the first Trump elections when he was banning, you know,
banning news people and stuff like. At this point, it's
almost like people are so exasperated and so expected of
like constant chaos that that they're not fighting back. They've

(01:01:37):
they it's already been normalized. But man, it's funny. Kimmel
was the line for so many people. Y'all couldn't as
signed four hundred actors to a letter before Jimmy Kimmel
lost his show. There wasn't anybody that was targeted, you know,
when this man was all right, I won't I can't
do the whole thing. It'll be too long.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Jacon says, yeah, because I was about to say people
picking choose when they fight, and I think that's something
that irritates me as somebody who is like, I'm going
to fight no matter what.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
A lot of people had opted to opt out of
the fights.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Yeah, and it's like people like me are going, well,
don't you see this. This is time to fight now
before it gets to a point where it's out of
control and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
You have to work twice. You have to fight twice
as hard.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
And everybody was like, I'd rather just wait until I
got to fight twice as hard, And people like me
get mad, be like, why bitch, why not everybody gotta
fight twice as hard when you could have helped out
from the get gold.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Jason says, another great episode. I'm guessing Freezing the Kicker
is similar to when me and my friends are playing
twenty one. Whenever someone is shooting the last free throw
the hit twenty one, we definitely hold that ball for
a little while. Maybe tell him something about his mama,
the mom Donnie. Yeah, but it's funny. Why aren't y'all
doing that at the earlier free throws? You know, Like,
I mean, well, actually, now that depends on how you

(01:02:58):
play twenty one, because I play will you only shoot
one the one last three pointer to get twenty one
and if you miss it, you go back down to fourteen.
So it really just depends on how what your rules are.
So forget I said that because I don't know people
play differently. The mom downing thing is really interesting. Cats
like Bernie have been talking from the sidelines for decades,

(01:03:20):
but this could be the first time we see someone
in the position to actually see if things can work.
The test will be how the super left far super
far left treats him once he's in. It usually doesn't
take much for them to flip like they did on ALC.
Will he be giving a little extra rope because they
rode for him so hard, or will the first time
he slide sides with the cops because at some point

(01:03:42):
he will where they throw him away. From all accounts,
the Blasio was doing his thing but only took one misstep.
That's what it felt like for me. On the outside
with the Blasio and once again, this is why I've
decided the New York City election is not a big
deal for me, and I'm not turning into some referendum
on Democrats or referendum on America or politics. It truly

(01:04:06):
is a thing that exists in the microcosm of the
New York City universe.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
But I remember the Deblasio campaign and how people were
going up for him in the fervor of him having
an biracial like interracial marriage with a biracial son and
all this shit, and then he just just one day.
I woke up and everybody was like, man, fuck this guy.
And I was like, whoa, Okay, I don't understand the city,
but good luck, you know. Let's see Spotify couple comments

(01:04:36):
Happy early birthday, Rod, thank you, Jinkies, jinky'sddre and bus
Foyer says, what up, y'all. I'm out in Olympia, Washington now,
but I'm from Fairville, North Carolina. Okay, shot the fed
noam the Ville. We went to college there, we did
living out here, I've seen every example y'all joked about
what Republicans think Starbucks is happy Chuckler truth is everybody

(01:04:59):
here niggas a this is a light, got a Starbucks order? Facts.
Let's see the poll was do you round up with
ask that checkout? I don't either. Eighty four percent of
people don't. Sixteen percent of people do in aren it?
So there you go. Those are the stats. Let's go
to the next beat. It was Jazzy's Luminous by Infra

(01:05:53):
Red Crypto, uh thirty one sixty two. We are in
a recession reception, I mean reception forgot Ibia says despite
all the live thing, the life thing, sexy time is
alive and well in the Apia House studio audience. What Honestly,

(01:06:13):
I'm proud and surprised that it's the case at the
nineteen years maybe a helse that I only have one
partner is mister Apia In case you wondered when I
wasn't gonna spare your business. That's between you and your marriage.
I know he has same political views. We stayed in
the groove. Well, congrats, I would have you know, of
all the people, I would have thought you was out

(01:06:33):
here in the street having the healthiest sex. Ronan Raphael says,
I was wondering why bright lights kept appearing around me
at random moments, just me. I know that I can
be too sexy for these streets, so just looked at
it as other multi dimensional beings acknowledging my glorious purpose
of sex. A say it that way, Rod, until you

(01:06:55):
broke the Rapture news to me. Happy birthday to my
dear good brother Rod. I loved that that man co
host of the best podcast in the world. He might
not pre order my New York Times bestseller The Romance,
but you should and qualify for a free ticket to Africa. However,
he always is a stand up god. I don't give
up Rapture for many but as soon as I found

(01:07:16):
out that I can't listen to blackout Tills, I said,
keep my ass on Earth. I got more sexy books
to write, and until my favorite podcast stops Rapture me,
then have a wonderful celebration to toast the punkin spice
on my end to you, I just want to know
what the Rapture pastor is going to say tomorrow. That's
gonna be a hell of a sermon. Yeah, I think

(01:07:37):
David Cross has a joke about that, like boys that
egg on my face, you know, like explain that even
he says Roder, I hope you had a very special birthday.
Sorry you didn't get raptured. I guess you're going to
hell with the rest of us. It's okay. We'll be
in good company. Beyonce and Kendrick will be there as well,
so at least the music in hell will be good. Yeah.
I did have a good, fun birthday. I went to

(01:08:00):
uh a place called Patty Wax, and I booked a
candle making class that me and Karen took.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
It was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Y'all know, I'm a real basic candle burning bitch, and
so we made our own candles. Matter of fact, I
brought them to show you guys. This one's Karen's candle
that she made. As you guys can see, it's a
boot and the scent is tobacco and vanilla. And on

(01:08:34):
the bottom is you can name your uh. I don't
know if y'all can see this cameras there on the
bottom you can name it. She named it Beyonce's boot.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
I know that's dumb. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Then she had this one, which is orange blossom. Is
the is the the scin it and it's in a
heart shaped candle thing and happy heart is what she
named it. They haven't got the fall since in so
I couldn't do a pumpkin spice candle. But y'all know

(01:09:12):
I'll be back in October because like the last Friday,
they do free refills on candles and stuff. This one
is saltic grapefruit. It's mine, and as you can see,
it has a snake on the outside. And I named
it snake friend because some friends, some snakes are friends. Guys,

(01:09:34):
yes they are. That wasn't a danger noodle, but yes
they are. That wasn't a danger noodle. And then this
one is a golden amber and it came with a
lid on it's purple.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
And the the actual uh, you know, the jar that
it's in, and the smells so good. They let you cheat,
like you're only supposed to put like a certain amount
of the smell good in there. But she's like, you
can go up the point too. Yes, I like my
candles strong.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Women, me too, So I went up in the sense.
So I had a ball and I named.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
This one potion. Uh is the name of this one, and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
The ball because it was like a whole wall full
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
And you can get one, two and three week burning and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
That had all types of shapes and sizes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Some was like my greedy glasses, and I think I
think all of them you can change to a planner
or something like that if you want to. Some of
them you could change it to a planner, you know.
I feel like if you want to take it and
make plants and then they have like a refeel thing.
So I that was a lot of fun. I've never
made candles before and I had a ball. Thank you
very much for doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
It was my birthday. I did it for myself, but
you was welcome to come along. And uh yeah, so
I had a you know, it was a basic birthday,
you know, went to a restaurant that I like, ordered
all the foods that I haven't been eating for the
last year or so, had a little bit of everything
until I felt, you know, too full and sick, and
then went home and fell asleep. So yeah, it was

(01:11:12):
a great, great birthday for those that was like, oh,
I hope you had a happy birthday.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
It was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Thank you. Ev. The Arby's employee getting attacked with the
rock crews that Arby's isn't a criminal organization, employee reported
a crime because Arby's isn't above the board organization. That's
definitely not a moneylundering scheme. You'll just just had to
accept that they had a meetes well, not really. So
the employee ran out of the restaurant bleeding from the head,
and the police were already patrolling that area because it's

(01:11:41):
an Arby's and it's a criminal area, more than likely
high crime. So my guess is that the police happened
to see the employee trying to get vengeance, running around,
you know, bleeding from the head, probably about to kill
this person that you know is retribution because if you
attack on our turf, you know, I got a respet
and con and then changed their story when the police

(01:12:03):
rightfully saw them and said what's going on, It's like, oh,
I got attacked over a roach, but really they probably
stole a brick of cocaine. Sean says, listening to your
comments about the demon demonizing of Ice and quotes while
reading about the abduction of Ian Andre Roberts and the
more on from Ice sing it's an example of Ice
keeping Americans safe while every single person who knew him

(01:12:25):
was protesting against absurd actions of Ice. The one thing
I would add to your comments is if ICE does
not want to be demonized, they should stop acting like
brown shirts and start enforcing actual laws. Yeah, why are
you covering your face? America doesn't need a militarized border
with gangs abducting random black and brown people. Most illegal
immigrants are white, if I remember correctly, And they need
courts that are designed to work around all the races

(01:12:47):
legislation around immigration and help them live and work legal. Well,
that courts thing, I mean, that's over right. Supreme Court
literally said in California they can and racially profile with
Homeland Security and ICE like what, We're not gonna get
that anytime soon. That like this, the way this court

(01:13:12):
is so nakedly like whatever Trump wants, yay, whatever Biden wanted. No.
And I listened for years, for four years, I listened
to people to say, it's just Biden wasn't constructing the
arguments right, Biden wasn't doing something right. Biden wasn't doing
you know, it's something Biden by and Biden, Biden Bid
and Biden, and I just don't think there can be

(01:13:33):
any more fucking proof that this country's Supreme Court, which
was cooked from the time that people wouldn't vote for Hillary. Agreed,
there's no what more proof do you fucking need? Like,
it's so obvious what they're doing. Power is it absolves itself.
Might is what makes right for them. It is not

(01:13:56):
about precedent. Clarence Thomas just literally said we need to
go back and start looking at settled president in America
and overturning it like that. This is where we're at
right now. And it's because they are running to Boston.
They have their spade tight over there. As much as
they hate spades, but they are spade tight over there.

(01:14:19):
And so I think a lot of people were kidding
themselves about the kind of country we were and the
kind of country we will become. Right, So, yeah, I
don't think the courts are going I mean, I'm with you.
Those are the things that need to happen, but I
don't think that's happening any time. So he says, this
is a specific subset of meta human there's a specific

(01:14:40):
subset of meta humor about making the description of jokes funny.
With your explanation of resection, you show that you are
improving your level of this craft a little more work,
and you may approach mastery of this type of humor. Oh,
I think you're doing it too right there, I see.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
I see what you did.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Let's see YouTube comments for this one. Eighteen Damn, y'all,
y'all had something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Let's say, the hell was he talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Three of the episodes where I really be like what?
But a lot of them are short? So okay, A
service spoonful says regarding white people news. Danny Ramirez is
also the new falcon in the MCU. Not sure why
the article wouldn't lead with that one where he had
a lot more than a line or two. Great show
you too, Yeah, okay, I do know him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Now, that makes more sense. But the way the article was,
the way they showed him, I was like, who.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Is this dude?

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Yeah, look like they would have added that to the article.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Yeah, like he got married to Jessica. No, he's dating
Jessica out. But that's big for him.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Congrat somebody say, but it's in the top gun Maverick two.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Okay, I don't remember him in that either. Must not
have had that many lines, but he had a lot
of lines and falcon in the window, So I mean, wait,
Captain America Braveney World Alicia says, happy birthday, old man,
thank you. Happy birthday, Ride. I love Karen's hair journey.
I'm rocking right now. I haven't been natural for almost
fourteen years. Yes, Christoph says one four pm on Tuesday,

(01:16:07):
where's the damn rapture? I can't do America. Kakud no
more doc Na'm just says Happy birthday. Many returns Rod,
they supported the cracker barrel hierarchy of needs fun show. Thanks,
Happy birthday, Rod says, none of your biz. I'm so
sorry about dropping the rapture ball. I honestly just thought
you knew already. My bad. It's all good. It's just

(01:16:27):
it's all jokes. Damien says, nothing like growing older gracefully.
Happy birthday that you Ride. I'm not sure who's worst
Fake Christmas or fake Christians or Maga or both, but
because both are pretty reprehensible, I'm awake, says Happy birthday, Rod.
Hope your day was filled with joy, laughter, all the
things that make you happiest. Honestly, you give us a

(01:16:48):
gift with every show. Your insight, perspective and the energy
you put into keeping us inform me so much grateful
for you and wishing you the best year yet. Thank you,
and yeah, it was a fun birthday phill of laughs
and joy, Yes, sad of all. Happy birthday, Rod says
provocative AF love y'all relationship, congrats on forever. Thank you.
The Girl on the Other Side of the Road says

(01:17:09):
Coachella thought they were eating with this lineup. You want
to see Justin Crackhead, especially after the Scissor concert. Oh
who wants to see him? He's about to be on
that stage looking dead. I love Sabrina Carboner, but doing
Coachella with only one good album is crazy. She gonna
be like Charlie XCX last year. Snooze. Anyway, have birthday, Rod,
Thank you. Ray Gunn says, welcome to First watch Man.

(01:17:31):
I started going there probably two years ago. It's always good.
Y'all should try everything on the menu. We went there
this morning. Yeah, I like First watch Man. I go there.
I like the pumpkin pancake breakfast right now. I didn't
get it this morning, but I normally do. But today
I got the ham and grear cheese omelet and that
was banging as well. You know, I got a hash

(01:17:54):
It was good, and that Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Was good too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
But they was thick. Okay, I'm talking Serena Williams cat
suit thick. You know what I'm saying. Maybe added a
little water thick, but you know, I like my grits
like I like my women's Okay, strong, thick, black and sweet.
Now do I know how to make grits? No, I

(01:18:17):
don't know how to make grits. I don't know the
rest speak. I'm just I like my grits, chocolate.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Grits.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
As you eating was on tig O Bitties Coach.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
They do know how to make grits. And yes, you
don't put chocolate in grits.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Okay, thank you? Care for taking a little coach. Donny
B says, I'm been following this guy, your Brell, owner
of Passport. Oh, this is a spam. It's got an
Instagram link and all this shaboo.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Yeah, thank you? Uh is this even about us? What
is this? I've been following this guy. I'm sixty one
years of age. I have a son who's twenty eight.
We just had a discussion on living in America. The money.
My son said, it's no way that he would raise
a child in America. He's not married with any kids
yet America, isn't it. I listen to you and Karen
today on the radio. Oh so this is a person

(01:19:06):
from Karen Hunter. Okay, because I'm reading this shit like,
I don't think we've talked about this on this show,
but I okay. So I was on Karen Hunters show
yesterday and we talked about the idea of black people
leaving America in mass or something. I'm not really much
into that theoretical question. I'll discuss just about anything, discussing

(01:19:27):
just about anything, but I'm not a leave America person.
I don't judge people that feel that way, but I
have empathy and understanding for them. But I just think
in practice it's gonna end up being about privilege because
the plan is never how do we get every black
person over to some other place? Yeah, it's always like

(01:19:51):
how do I use the passport? I have to get
myself out of here, which is totally fine and fair
question to ask what we're going through in America right now.
I'm I mean, I can't imagine that black person who
has not considered leaving this country. That must that's sometime
fucking con or or just like super super militant about it.
But even if you're super militant, i'd imagine you considered it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
Like who the fuck starts at? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
It doesn't make you less of a person to be like,
maybe I should get the fuck out of here, right, But.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Then you have to get down to the reality of it,
as where do you go?

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
And yeah, well, I'm not talking about that part. I'm
saying individually. But when people present this question of we,
it's not really we. No, it's not a we, because
it's not like you're saying, how do we start a
platform and a program to get every black person a passport,
to get everybody a basic level of money and that

(01:20:46):
will facilitate them coming to another country? What are the
rules of each country? Which country will we go to?
How are we going to negotiate this passage? It's very
much like we can get some of the ones out
of here and then leave everybody else to languish here
with no resources. You know, what are the rules on

(01:21:07):
getting the passport and leaving? If you're on probation, if
you're where are you going to go where there's no
extradition for certain people? Are we thinking of everybody? What
about the people that some of us don't want to
go with us and don't want to come. Yeah, there's
a lot of questions to it. So it's a good
theory discussion, but I don't necessarily like it practically.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Because all of it is individual thing that we're trying
to make as a collective, and it's not a collective question.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
He says, have you ever my question you? Have you
ever been to Belize or Tazania? Is so much out
there here to hear you say, I'll just admit that
I would probably just end updying here in America. I
was like, Oh, I felt so sorry to hear you
say this. I might have to pay for you and
your wife on a trip to Portland, Jamaica. Not that
you can't afford it, but I just want to see you,

(01:21:59):
to see poor Orland. It's one of my favorites. The
whole island is so laid back. Don't worry about my
future grandchildren getting shot in school, police brutality, etc. Hey
I'm listen. I'm not against traveling out of the country.
I'm not against I'm not even against the idea of
living somewhere else. But what I'm telling you is not
about my imagination or fear of other places. My point

(01:22:24):
that I was making on the show, and maybe it
didn't connect, but it's about me telling this country is
as much my fucking country as anybody else's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Yeah, not more so my family. You got here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
You can't run me out, just you can't just you
can't just have it with no fight.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
I'm from the South. If I was the running type,
I wouldn't even be here right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Now, agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
You know, I be in New York talking about Mount
Downey or whatever like I I have just as much
right to the land, soil, to the where the blood
of my people are too.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
They don't get to just have it, and they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
And my biggest thing is you don't get to dictate. Hey,
my people out here against they will in the first
fucking place. So we were about here against thy will,
and so we were here. We built this bitch. We
built Washington, d c. We built a lot of the cities.
There are places that people have poured water on ground
hole fucking cities. My ancestors blood is in this motherfucking soil.

(01:23:30):
I was born here, I was raised here, and I
have to trust to die here if I choose to.
My ancestors went through a lot of shit, nothing compared
to what I'm going through.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
And if they can live through that, I can live
through this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
And there's nobody's gonna make me run away from this
country that I love.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Yeah, it's just I think I have as much right
to it. And I don't think America is America without
black folks in it. I don't think it's America without
black folks forcing it up to what it's promised to be.
And I, just like I said, I understand and empathize
the people that disagree. I'm not judging y'all. I don't
feel sorry for you in that way. I would never

(01:24:14):
condescend to you and be like, oh, I'm sorry to
hear that you will leave your country just because you
were you scared, just because you a bitch, Like I
would never say, you know, I hate to hear you
picking up and runt turning tail and letting the white
man have his way, Like I would never say that
to y'all, because I'm like, no, I completely understand and
respect I do too people that are like I want

(01:24:36):
to get the fuck out of here, but I just
ask for that mutual respect back. Now, if you want
to pay for me to go on vacation Jamaica. I'll
definitely accept it. I've never been to Jamaica, Karen has
I want to go snorkeling. I want to get in
the clear.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Oh, we can snorker together, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
But I'm sure that even in Jamaica, there's people that
gonna tell you it ain't all good here. We got
problems in Jamaica just the same way you got problems everywhere,
and you you have to fight. Like, part of the
reason that we lionize places like Jamaica is because they fought.
Think about it. A big reason that we look up
to them is because they didn't just say this is

(01:25:11):
my place, this is not my place anymore. And many
black people was brought to Jamaica and they still far
to white people was like, okay, leave alone, shit, just
go that vacation, you know. So anyway, Like, it's very complicated,
and I completely respect where you're coming from, but don't
feel sorry for me. I'm not saying it because I'm

(01:25:34):
ignorant to other places. I'm saying because I know here
and I love here, and I have as much right
to make I have as much right to be here
as anyone else. I have as much right for my
voice to be heard and for my vote to be
counted and every other thing in the Constitution. I have
as much right for that. And if I have to
fight and raise my voice and cause a little bit

(01:25:56):
of trouble to make America have to live up to
that shit, then that's what the fuck I'm have to do. Dog,
you can't just you can't just back down to these
people without a fight. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Right, And it's you know, And it's also you know.
One of the things is that America is number one
and exporting racism. So no matter where you go in
the world, you're going to deal with it. If you're
running away is to get away from racism, that's impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Yeah, And as people bring up in the chat, there's
people my family came from Jamaica for the opportunities here.
I'm from Jamaica. It's gun violence there. Like I get it.
Nowhere's perfect You wherever you at, you gotta make your
strategy to stand on there fight. And so I feel
like wherever I go, I'm gonna be fighting anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Right, no matter what.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
You don't have to stand up for yourself against whatever
ills are coming at you, so, but I respect what
you're saying. I appreciate it because I know what you
said comes from a place of concern, yes, and mutual
love and respect, and so just being concerned part of
part of my passion. I hopefully you didn't take that
any level of fits. And if you still feel sorry

(01:27:02):
for me, you feel sorry for me. I can't change that.
But I understand I'm not saying this out of ignorance
or fear.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Yeah, And I'm saying this out of somebody who has
really sat down and I like, really contemplated this and
really thought about this hard. Like it's not an easy
decision to just be like the place that I was
born and raised and love and my roots and my
family just to pick up and just go to somewhere
else with a lot of different rules and regulations, different governments,

(01:27:29):
learning curve, possibly different languages, all types of shit.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
Like it is not as simple as in.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Different biases against black people, did there agreed? You know?
And like it's kind of like the Great Migration, a
thing that is still said today as common parlance. That is,
just if you read more about it, you'll find out
it's just not true. But there's this idea, and Karen
alludes to it often. I'll try not to take us

(01:27:56):
down a cold rabbit hole, because then we'll have to
do to Karen rant. But there's a thing that is
said often in this country about like the North and
these other places being better for black people than the South.
And you just got to get out of the South.
Get out of the South, Leave the South. It's better
everywhere else. And the more you read about the Great
Migration in detail, not just generalities, not what white folks

(01:28:21):
from the North pat themselves on the back and tell you,
go read about it in detail, explicit stories, and you'll
find that wherever black people showed up, racism was a
step behind. Chicago, they lynched people New York City when
there was a essentially a draft for the Civil War.

(01:28:46):
The white people that were because it could only take
white soldiers at the time. The white people that were
drafted before they left, they went and killed a bunch
of black people in New York City. Why would they
do that. They're fighting for the slaves. Remember they're from
the North. We need to thank them because they could
give a fuck about black people either. And black people

(01:29:08):
as a concept was fine over there. But the more
the closer they got to your neighborhood, the more it
was like actually stopping frisk actually redlining in Chicago. Actually,
let's let's make it so you can never own your home.
Actually we're gonna fucking literally beat and kill you for

(01:29:28):
working in the same factories that we work in. We're
gonna not have unions rather than have you in it.
This is what we This is literally the legacy of
racism in America and internationally. It's not it's not gonna
be flowers everywhere. Can it be better than here? Absolutely absolutely.

(01:29:49):
I'm not knocking anyone who wants to leave, but just there,
the anti blackness and the racism is the real problem.
It's not our choices and how we deal with it,
That's what I would say. But everyone has to pick
their own path. I don't. Maybe y'all change my mind,
Maybe things will get so bad that I'll change my mind,
But as of right now, my path feels like staying

(01:30:11):
here and saying I'm gonna get what the fuck out.
I'm old.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
But that's just me right Yeah, and now one hundred
percent agree, And as somebody who has lived in the
South most of their lives since I was nine months old.
For me, I love the South and I don't see
myself literally being I've said this years ago. I don't
see myself being anywhere else other than the South.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
It's just me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
It's a special place and I absolutely, one hundred percent
love it. And the thing is, no matter where you
are in this country, like Rochester, Sy, no matter where
you are in this country, racism is still there. It's
not far behind. It presents itself in different ways and
in different manners. Some of it is more polite racism,

(01:30:59):
some of it is more in your face racism.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
But it's still there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Yeah, so, but yeah, thank you for writing in about that.
And check me out on the Karen Hunter Show, guys.
I have some fun conversations and it's always lit, and
Karen's such a great host and we have a good time.
Every Friday. Foolish is Friday Serious Exam. You can check
out Urban View and hear it live from three to

(01:31:24):
six normally, and the replay is on the app on
the Serious Exam, and I believe she also puts it
on YouTube sometimes not the whole thing, but segments. Jason says,
Happy birthday, Big Rod, Happy hair day, Queen. Karen that
was some good white people news. I have been following
Jessica's album on IG and y'all weren't lying the moment

(01:31:44):
she split from her husband a little while ago. The
yoga pants were a plenty, the exercise VIDs were flowing.
Her loss was all our games, right, she was getting
some games in the gym, right, Yeah, I feel like
that's always interesting breakups. And then like, for me, my
guilty pleasure now is Joy Taylor because she went through
all that stuff if Fox Sports one that lawsuit, losing

(01:32:08):
her job, you know, lots of controversy, and she's just
tripled down on throwing the yams out there for everybody, like,
don't worry about if I betrayed women at the workplace,
worry about these titties. And I'm like, you know what, fair,
you know what. Okay, so you're going to the gym again,
all right, I guess we can check that out. I'm

(01:32:29):
gonna forget about telling that woman she needs to sleep
with people and shut the hell up about complaining to hr.
I'a forget about that. That's fine, Like whatever you need
to do to avoid me thinking about that, you like, well,
you can think about these cheeks cool. I'm I'm, I'm.
I don't work there. Okay, I know you more for
the ig than what's going on around the water cooler,

(01:32:50):
So I'm cool with it. But since she's been with
this new dude, that ain't the same in the country music. Yeah,
well she got mission accomplished. You know, she got the dudes.
It was like, let me tone this back down. I'm
not on the market anymore. Market although sometimes tactical mistake.
You know, you gotta keep the pressure on. But maybe
she's not trying to marry this dude. I don't know.
The country music beef is a type appropriation I can

(01:33:12):
get behind. I had no idea they had their own
version of the Shade Room, right?

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Just they just need their own vlad where they could
go on camera terminate themselves and this other artist pickup trucks.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
That would be fun, That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Why don't Flad interview truck country people? I feel like
that's some easy content.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Real easy, ain't it. They'll be more have to go
on there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
We got one comment on Spotify for this one. Thaddeus says, Lol,
distress shoes is a real thing. Look up Golden Goose
brand of shoes. Well, I'm gonna tell you, like Steve
Rogers said at the end of Endgame, Nope, I don't
think I will.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
That's hilarious the Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Have you had sex this year? Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:33:59):
Or no?

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Mm hmm I have with you?

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
I have not? Oh? Okay, yes, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
Say you was president.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Oh I've had sex a lot. Wasn't somebody else say,
let's just say, Apia, eat your heart out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
I don't want to give you the advanced stats, but
it's a lot of sex happening up in there. Uh Okay,
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
I mean, we got an eight I rowbody in here.
You need to tell me about.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
I don't know what number of sex y'all having over there, Apia,
but you need to multiply by the exchange rate and
add a couple more for me. And that's not even
counter sex I'm having with all these other people. Have
you had sex this year?

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
You mean? He just me and I changed my wig.
We went from a made out fit to the nurse
out fit.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
The road play. You know. Sometimes I'm like, you can
be a white woman now and then we have sex.
I'm like, you like this BBC.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
It's like and I call it a cock Yeah gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
He's gotta spice it up. Man, have you ever had
Have you had sex this year? Sixty eight percent? Yes,
thirty have not, but you know, hopefully everybody's happy out there.
You know, sex or no sex, It's up to you, guys.
I'm not judging. We got voicemails. Let me play another
one needs beats, uh and then we'll we'll come back

(01:35:25):
to the voicemail. All right, we got many voicemails. Two

(01:36:06):
wait the low yeah wait yes, two Okay, I already
got two voicemails. Let's check them out.

Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
This is.

Speaker 7 (01:36:16):
My twinter handle is Agent nineteen. My name Trade. So
I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Just call and just say one, oh ship, y'all can't
hear this? I was doing it again. Look little little
little joke, get.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Joke, like the dude, like like the like the Pesta,
the live audience.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
I like to mess with y'all, be like, what if
you could hear this? Well? Really you can't. Okay, Now
let's do it for real this time.

Speaker 5 (01:36:42):
This is.

Speaker 7 (01:36:44):
My twinter handle is Agent nineteen. My name is Trade.
So I wanted to just call and just say one.
I love listening to y'all and I appreciate you. And
I've been listening to probably gosh, it was before the
twenty sixteen election, because I always remember because I think
I came in on the episode when he was like
in Wakanda, we had guns. To Kanda, they had guns too,

(01:37:07):
and it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Always checked him.

Speaker 7 (01:37:09):
So I was listening to the episode from the twenty
second and Karen was talking about her hair, and so
I was just listening and I was relating so so
much because I'm the same way. I have gone through
so many different hairstyles and now I have locks, and
I had locks for the last five years and by
far has been the most enjoyable time with my hair

(01:37:30):
because I don't like doing my hair, so I like
being able to just do it every now and then.
It's low making, right anyway. It also made me think
about how our personalities and so much like I am
an extremior extroverted person and my husband is so introverted
and he's chilled if he has video games. He is
so calm and that's his little happy place. And I

(01:37:51):
listened to y'all all the time, and I listened and
I always crack up because it reminds me of my
husband in my relationships if he listens to this, because
he listens to I conf to him ale other people.
But y'all's personalities are so much like the only thing
that he doesn't do is watch sports nearly as much
as you do. Ride But as far as playing video
games being reserved, he's an introvert and and whatnot and

(01:38:15):
am so music too. It's just it's just funny to me.
And I just wanted to let y'all know that I
love y'all and thank you so much for having his
journey and I enjoyed watching all development and growth.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
Oh that's so thank you, very nice.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Yeah, and uh yeah that you've been listening for a
while because that kill my clip is twenty eighteen. You
know what homes of Everybody had guns twenty eighteen. That
was one of the craziest, craziest like like when you
like start call like you got man. I just remember

(01:38:54):
that I was watching a TV show on FX The
Lowdown with Ethan Hawk and and I'm looking at it
and killing Mike is in there as an actor, like
he has a like he's a character on the show.
I didn't even know he was acting acting like that neither.
I was like, man, they don't snuck him in there,
but if they and he gave him a gun, I
was like, of course, killer Mike gave him a gun.
Killer Mike was probably only took the role. He's like,

(01:39:16):
can I have a gun? Because I care about that
shit more than black people being free in Georgia. I
don't give a fuck about Stacy Abrams. As long as
somebody let me have a gun, I'll figure it out.
I love guns. I'm killing Mike Wakanda. Everyone had guns. Uh,
but thank you for that voicemail Agent nineteen. I didn't
catch your It was a little like staticky when you

(01:39:39):
said your name name, But call back all right, next
voicemail and.

Speaker 5 (01:39:44):
Last one, my dear Rod and Karen. This is krithas
at Prof Cory on social media. Baby just giving y'all
a call. I so appreciated Karen Sharon about the natural
hair journey. You know the thing that has floored me.

(01:40:09):
I think it was twenty twenty one when I stopped
getting relaxers. And what has shocked me, Karen about this
is when I was getting my hair straightened. And I
was always fortunate to be able to do my hair
really well. So I really liked the.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Look I was able to.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
Achieve on a consistent basis, and it didn't feel hard,
and you know, I ran and that didn't create a
problem or anything. But during that time you would not
have been able to convince me that I would think
that I would look professional without my hair being straight,
or that I would look in the mirror and not

(01:40:49):
be disappointed with how I looked if my hair weren't straight.
And so what's been shocking to me over these past
couple of years is the variety of looks I can
do you and still be.

Speaker 6 (01:41:02):
Happy with what I see in the mirror. It is
actually surprising to me. I did not think I would
be able to be dis flexible, so that's been really cool.
And in fact, I got a haircut from.

Speaker 5 (01:41:14):
A guy who was doing some fancy moves, and so
when I went back to Columbus to my old hairdresser,
I had her just completely chop off.

Speaker 6 (01:41:23):
More So, I've.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
Never had my hair this short, and now I feel
comfortable with this too. So that's part of what I
identify with what you were saying, Karen, about just the
self acceptance and how much of a gift it is
that we give ourselves when we can accept ourselves that way.
So thank you for sharing over the years and that
in particular, and I'll catch y'all later.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
Oh, thank you, sweetie.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
And the thing about natural hair, and I've realized that too,
it is a lot more flexible than people think it is.
I think a lot of times when people think natural,
and it does if in form so if they automatically locks,
they automatically go you know, different types of you know,
really really shortcuts and things like that. But I've seen

(01:42:12):
I had a coworker at my old job and she
went natural the same time I went natural. But what
she because I didn't want to deal with having relaxed
hair and natural hair all in one thing.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
So I just got big chopped. I was like, just
fuck it, just chop it all off.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
But what she did was that she let her uh
natural hair grow out and relaxed on the ends. And
so by the time she got finished and they like
chopped all her relaxed hair off. When you looked at
her shed like she had a parent. It could shake,
it could do the her hair looked exact. She could

(01:42:50):
wrap it it because she trained her hair to do that.
I like, the curls in my hair were just fine.
So a lot of people fear like I won't be
able to do that, but you actually can, and like
if that's something that you desire to do, because I
know this this journey isn't for everybody, because everybody's different,
but I know, like I said, I absolutely love it
and it is amazing the diversity.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Because my hair is to the length I could put
it up.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
I can put it down, you know, I could do
all types of put it in puffs, do all types
of things with it that I could never do with
it when my hair is relaxed.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
All right, that's it for the voicemails. We got emails,
and then we'll, you know, we'll wrap this thing up.
I think we got something in the physical mail too.
Matter of fact, I'm not even gonna play a beat here.
Let's just because I think it's only been a few
minutes as our last break, so let's just go ahead
and get into it. Sean writes, saying possible fucking with

(01:43:43):
black people politics to get mad article. It's about the
Army hair guidelines about beards and how they basically switched
it back so that black men can't grow beards, then
they just have to essentially deal with razor bumps. And
if you have razor bumps, that's cold. That's like part
of the violations that can get you kicked out of

(01:44:05):
the military. I haven't seen the results of this yet.
I'm sure will be getting a follow up if and
when people get kicked off out of the military for
basically essentially being black and having razor bumps. So stay
tuned on that one. Nathaniel right saying I need to
stop bullshiting. Yes, I ordered the review of him looking

(01:44:27):
forward to your Insights. So on Patreon you can actually
order individual episodes. I just priced everything at five dollars, so, like,
if you want to if you're just like I don't
want to listen to all this, I don't want to
buy all this, or I don't want to subscribe. But
maybe you're like, man, I really do need to know

(01:44:48):
what Rod thought about one battle at the another, then
you can go spend five dollars in here an hour
long of me talking to myself about a movie. He's
done that, and so I guess he said, you know,
I don't even know, Like five dollars a month will
get you just a tip, but you may or may
not get that that one that you want to get, right.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
So I understand and I kind of like it for
people who want to do al cart So that's another
option for those you on Paytreon. You'd be like, you know,
in case we talk about something on something breakout in
sports or something like that and you want to hear
our opinion about it, you can actually go get those
specific shows that you.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
Want to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
Alicia wrote in with a guest the race article, but
it's a YouTube video and the video is like eight
minutes long if I'm not mistaken. Yees seven minutes and
thirty six seconds about a woman living in Atlanta who
a guy tried to rip her off with a car
that apparently like They suspect that he tempered with the

(01:45:52):
odometer to make it seem like it was newer than
it was. But she says, let me start off by saying,
I love living in Atlanta. Originally I didn't want to
move because so many people from my hometown now live here.
But after I graduated from college, I got a job
from Emory University and I would have been crazy not
to take it. I've been here since twenty eleven. I
built a life here and I'm happy. But y'all, Atlanta

(01:46:13):
is not a real place. The show Atlanta took very
few liberties and exaggeration, if you ask me. For example,
one day I was going to pick my babies up
from daycare. There was a dude riding a horse down
coming to the highway. Y'all, this nigga was actually riding
a real live horse on the sidewalk like a horse horse.
I believe it. Anyway, here's a story I think you
could use for guests the race. The story could have

(01:46:33):
just as well been a background story for Atlanta. Again,
I love Atlanta, even though it's not a real place. Yeah,
if it wasn't eight minutes, i'd play it, and we
do guess the race, but it's so long we can't
and guess the race because of our clips that we
put online. We try to actually when we can keep
them below three minutes. But if we can keep it

(01:46:53):
below like five, is pretty cool too. But there's no
way we can play an eight minute clip, comment on
an and play against the or and uh Keith and
put it online. So that's why. But thank you Joe
Wright saying hi Rod, it's called test. That's the title.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Hi Rod.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
If this email is undeliverable, I will assume you have
been raptured. Since you and Karen have been together since childhood,
I will also have to guess you went together. However,
if not happy birthday Center, that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
We're still here.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Yeah, it must be all that role playing white lady,
interracial sex. I know it's messing us up, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:47:31):
We don't know what to do. We're messing up our algorithm.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
All that fake bunny hopping. And then in the physical mail,
which you know we have an Amazon wish list. It's
in the show notes. You know some people hit me
up on the wish list for my b day. Thank you?
Uh something you know? And and also you know you
can just like the mailing addresses the blackout tips slash
about like the blackoutips dot com slash about. But someone

(01:47:57):
sending us something from Amazon, it says happy birth if
they rode, thank you for all you do. The world
is a better place with you in it down thank you,
don ge and I didn't even open it to see
what they were, but it appears to be scamming of
your your receipt. Okay, that's cool, it says a little

(01:48:17):
love Wait, I love peace. A I love peace. I
don't know if that's artificial intelligence loves piece, but okay,
you open it. Oh, it's a microwave. It's like a
microwaveable container for food, which you guys know that I

(01:48:39):
do all the cooking around here, he does, so this
will get put to good use for leftovers and stuff.
I also eat most of the leftovers around here because
Karen's too boogie to eat her own leftovers. Well, you
don't eat them, so I don't. Okay, buddy, Okay, the

(01:49:01):
rest of my life, the rest of us that respect food,
we when we pay for it, we bring it home,
we eat it. Okay. There's some silvery tensil things in here.
I don't know what these are for. I have to
look in the instruction. There's also like a plastic sport
in here is like shout the bow Jangles.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
It's like a bowl or something like a lunch bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:49:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
I think it's a microwavable. On the side it said,
oh instruction to open released event to let the air out.
Twist the unlocked upgrade push lock making as a first
fits two packs of rhyment or fun filled with water. Oh,
so you can make fun in the microwave at three

(01:49:45):
in three minutes. I don't know what the metal things
at the top is before. They don't feel microwavable to me.
But I'm gonna have to look up the instructions. But
I don't know if you guys can see it. I'll
see if I can.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
But yeah, it's like I don't like the metal things.
And here is the part that I'm like that probably
can't go into microwave. Yeah, with but like somehow you
can make.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
For out of.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
Oh maybe that's oh they like little baby Oh, I see,
I see they So you take them and screw them
into the other one and that's how you make chopsticks.
So it's basically like chopsticks on the goal. Oh okay,
so yeah you turn it like this and now you
got chopsticks.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
Okay, I'm with you now.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
Man, that's dope. Yeah. I don't I like that now.
I don't normally microwave for unless I'm reheating it, in
which case I totally microwave for. But uh, yeah, that's
like cool. You know, I got packs of noodles in
here that I don't be eating enough of and stuff
and I'm assuming it's the same thing in this box,

(01:50:56):
so they probably got one for me and one for Karen. Yay,
same thing in this box as well. So thank you,
thank you baby.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
Yeah, we do got rummings in there.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
Yeah, so we appreciate it. We'll be back tomorrow with
jail cove in. Yeah, that's it. We'll be back tomorrow
with jail cove in and we'll see you throughout the
rest of the week until next time.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
I love you, I love you too.

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