3164: Saint MacKenzie Scott

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writer and host of the Rain on Your Parade podcast
and making podcasts great again where he does the greatest
Trump impression that we have going today. It's my man
J L.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Cold man.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
What's going on? Brother?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Nothing much? Thank you for having me. I'm exhausted. I
gotta tell you. The full time day job is Yeah,
you're not supposed to still, And I think it's a
little bit of like investment, you know, there's a personal
investment that raises the stress level versus like working forty

(01:48):
hours on something I don't care about. It's done, but
I actually care and want to be doing the job well.
And I'm like anxious about, you know, because there's so
much new stuff to learn that like, I feel like
that's weighing on me. And then you realize, you know,
twenty two years into your comedy and legal career, you're
not supposed to be like climbing the mountains still in

(02:11):
both because you don't You're not built. I don't have
the twenty six year old energy. And I'm just like,
I can do one of these things and then I
can nap. Yeah, it's sir.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, I mean I think on the one hand, it's
it's you know, admirable what you're doing, and you know
it's actually helping people, you know, like stay in their
housing and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
I mean, I'm rooting for that part. I mean, I
get it, I understand, and I.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Think it's also kind of a blessing because if you
were more successful in your comedy career, I feel like
it would be a distraction to the people in the court,
to some of your clients, to the judges, you know,
stuff like that. But since so many of these people
are just like, who's the six seven lawyer that I've
never heard of, I feel like, maybe, you know, you

(03:03):
can just focus on just the work when you're at work,
and then just the comedy when you're at comedy like that,
neither has been successful enough to interfere with the other.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
That's right. And I will admit my ego not that
my algorithm certainly doesn't show up on poor people in
the Bronx Twitter and yeah, but my ego still hurts
or it's.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Like nobody, nobody knows who I am. Do you ever
try to sneak in? Do you ever try to sneak
an impression in?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Like, excuse me, I'm sorry?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh my bad?

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
What was was?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
What was my blind wig doing it?

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Here?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
What? What? This is crazy?

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Why am I in a soup?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah? You just you show up? You do? Al Pacino
and Devil's Advocate you know, uh like just where does this.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Music come from?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
This landlord? That was too on the money?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Actually, yeah, like you should have a career in comedy
like that. Have you been it's been a few weeks.
Have you been able to be funny at work yet?
Are you still in the very few months?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah? Yeah, and a couple of you know, not obviously
not in court and just when talking to colleagues, like
generally yes, but you know it's it's thirty year old
JL at the law firm making everybody just bowl over laughing.
Those days seem to be over. I get some chuckles.

(04:37):
I get some chuckles.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
But yeah, so you haven't now. Is it because you
just haven't unleashed as funny as you could be, or
is it just you're like this is a different crowd.
They wouldn't think I was funny if I even if
I tried.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I think it's both because I have gotten some laughs,
but I really keep it like I'm not trying to
branch out into like, hey, if I can think of
something like witty about this judge or this thing we're
talking about, but I don't just go ahead. Everybody never
wonder about bah.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
You just come in and start doing ten minutes of
a set. You're right, Yeah, what else?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
What's everybody?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Where's everybody from?

Speaker 4 (05:14):
What did for us today?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Where are you from? What you do for a living?
Oh shit, the same thing I do? That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
You're a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Wha lawyer?

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Underneath me, you're just in the break room, Like, just
broke up with my girlfriend today. Man, anybody going through
a breakup, anybody going But yeah, man, that's I mean,
it's cool though that your help, that is helping people.
So if you could be doing something else that's not comedy,
I think something that helps people is right up your alley.

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And you know, kind of dope. I'd like a six
seven advocate when I entered the courtroom, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (05:55):
And you know, you know what jail chair for you
is like channing for fantasy football. You have conflicting interest cause,
like like I want people to be taken care of,
but I also want you to do good in your
comedy career, even though you're trying to kill it. So
I'm looking like, damn, a man is like negative too,

(06:16):
But if this dude on this.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Other things, but it's like you rooting for somebody to
score a touchdown on the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes, you're like, yeah, is this bittersweet? Are you? And like, uh,
you're still doing stand up. I mean it's not like, uh,
I know you say you winding down and all that stuff,
but just still you know, that's when the gigs come in,
you know. That's why it's like, hey, you know those
emails we were ignoring. Here's some replies, So how's it working?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Like I am I really like it's it's not even
all jokes aside about like I gotta quit, I gotta this,
but I'm like exhausted in a way that I've I've
never really been and and that's more weighing on me
then because cause it takes me. It like takes gearing

(07:07):
up for a show, you know what I mean. Like
I don't do drugs, I don't do anything like that.
So I'm just like I go through this process. I
book a show, then I spend a month stressed over
selling tickets. Then almost every gig for the last several years,
I will be texting Laura like the day I'm traveling,

(07:27):
going why am I doing this? Like legitimately, like I
am not happy with this. This is like I just
want to relax. I want to rest, I want to
like not. Then I do a gig and it usually
goes really well and I feel good for like five hours.
I'm like, that's why I do it, And then I'm
traveling home and by the time I get home, I'm like,
why did I do that? Yeah, it's a very exhausting.

(07:49):
And then you're like, and I just spent up my
free time, you know, because I basically have to use
vacation or weekends, right, So then it's like get home
Sunday night and it's like, oh okay, yeah, work to
let's go right, you know. And at twenty six, twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Man, you could do that.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I was like American psycho. I was like up at
five am working out, work two open mics, home, watch
a TV show, sleep Like I don't have that juice anymore.
Some of this I'm not. I need to get in
better shape. But there's that, as you can I'm sure
attest to. There's that. There's that couple of months period
where it's gonna tire you out more because you got

(08:27):
to get moving like that inertia, and then once it
becomes habit, you start to feel a little more energy,
a little bit better. But I'm in that point where
I'm like, man, do I have it in me for
like the next three weeks to be like five am,
get on that rower and start lifting weights.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah. I'm at a weird point now where I've done
it so much that I feel weird not doing shit
because I've been doing it such a habit. Like ye Friday,
I was gonna go for a walk and then I
was like, nah, I think I can go to the gym,
like like like I'm gonna go lift weights in these
fucking running shoes that aren't trainers. But I like, I

(09:04):
so like it is a mental thing. And you're right
because for a long time when I started, when I
didn't have a trainer, it was very difficult to get
into that habit. And I think if having a full
time job where you have to leave the house just
changes things tremendously because you got travel time, you got
in the office time. Then there's a bunch of other shit.

(09:26):
You got to balance the comedy stuff, the podcast stuff,
and you gotta find time to work out. Like it's no,
it can be a lot. I can see how that
can drain on you because it feels like something has
to give it at that point. And plus you're a
good uncle, you know, you go see your nephew play
soccer and all that shit.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, yesterday that was even a gig. I woke up
at four am to get like the early train to Boston.
I got home. I left my apartment at five point thirty.
I got home at midnight because I was just to
watch a soccer game.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Man, I remember them days and my knees watching them
play bad basketball.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Or bad whatever.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
But You're like, I am gonna be here and I'm
going to support.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
But your nephew's pretty good though, right, Oh he is.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, he's started for his college team as a freshman,
which is which is good. And they tied a team
that's like pretty pretty good in their league yesterday. So
it's funny I seem to not be able to go
see wins like I remember a couple of years ago.
I was on the game tie streak. Damn, bro, nothing's happened.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Soccer is the hardest sport for me as an American
to judge, because I'm so used to like a victor
and I'm so used to knowing what I'm watching and
being like this is good, this is why this team
is winning, and soccer is the one sport where I
even my friends who tried to get me into it,
and I just sit and watch with him. I'm just

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sitting there like, how do you know what's good?

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Like, how do you know this team is ahead or better?
I don't know who's better. I mean, in some ways
it's more fun for me because like, I don't know
why America is shitty. I just know that America is
not as good. But I'm like, I don't know they're
kicking the ball too when it's zero zero, and me
and and and and my friends who know soccer are like,

(11:16):
oh god, we're fucking getting destroyed right now.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
And I'm like it's one zero, anything can happen, A
random kick can just go in the fucking thing. It
all looks like fucking uh marbles to me, right.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
And I think that's the problem with soccer. Also, like hockey. Obviously,
I've gotten into hockey the last couple of years, and
it's like you can have some of that in hockey
as well, but it's so fast and physical that like
if a score is like one nothing or two to one,
but it is like NonStop action, much like the new
Paul Thomas Anderson movie. Just listen to your review. I

(11:53):
was like, when's he gonna mention Sean Penn? And then
you gave it.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh man, you gotta save him. You gotta save him
for last bro. Motherfucker right there. Bro, he don't wear something,
he better wear something dog like definitely get nominated the lock.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I think he's because it's just you know, anyway not.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
To Did you feel now fuck that? Did you feel
the did you feel like he was doing a little
RFK JR?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I think, well, I heard that's the thing. I was.
That's so funny you bring that up because I was
listening to the New York Times podcast yesterday on my
way up to Boston and he was the interview so
fifty interview with Sean Penn, and I was like, oh,
he's I think from the smoke, Like that's the thing.
From smoking and being so intense. I think that combo

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has just made him kind.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Of this, Oh okay, I'm.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Really tired and my voice is sore all the time,
whereas Robert Kennedy it's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Okay, okay, yeah. Because I was like, is he is
he channeling a little like not enough to be pairing.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I thought the same, some of the weird lip.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Movements and like that. Yeah, but anyway, he was fucking great. Man,
God damn, he was great.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
You brought up his walk. And when I left the movie,
I saw it with a friend of mine, Pat who
used to be like big in comedy as well. But
I said to him, the walk was so perfect because
what he was capturing was he was like half military dude,
half loser cop. Yes, like his walk was like half

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military like but also kind of like a loser cop
who like patrols his neighborhood, not even a cop, like
a neighborhood watch guy. Yes, like half I'm like a
general and half I'm the loser neighborhood watch guy.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
The insecurity, the insecurity and over compensation was just palpable
in his every fucking breath, Like everything he did was
like perfect. I like, like, it's almost overwhelmed you like
black women, dude, and then just walks away, just walks away.

(14:07):
Like do I think Paul Thomas Anderson might have some
fetishism issues? Maybe definitely, but it still loved that fucking movie.
Man that was and I walked in I'm not gonna lie,
then walked in one orange folded because everything on social
media was acting like Cinners didn't happen, and it was like, yeah, so, uh,
this is the greatest original film piece we've ever seen

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in the history of movies.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I was like, you made the joke. As soon as
I saw those, I said, Dicaprios hasn't broken character from
Django yeaers, dude.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I was so because I walked in there like, did
you see the did you see the I don't know
if you saw the tweet from like I don't know
the film coming that produced it, but it was like,
see it in every format for d X, and I said,
motherfucker Center did that Ryan Coogler? Literally And that was

(15:03):
like three months ago that we were like, no one's
ever done this before. And we're now three months later
and we're like, no one's ever done this before. It's like,
what is happening? So I feel like, oh, Sinners and
and they're gonna have a fucking head headed this oscars.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
And it's tough. It's tough because you know, all kidding aside,
you know, my three favorite movies of the year, like
by a mile. Basically, though I'm a weirdo who really
enjoyed the Will Ferrell comedy on Amazon with Reese Witherspoon.
I thought that ship was hilarious and people were like
this sucks. I got laugh a ton, but my three

(15:39):
by a mile like way, like there's just three. It's
so easy for me. Is Warfare Sinners? And uh I keep,
I keep want to call like just another battle.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh yeah, one battle after another, one.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Battle again, another battle.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
It ain't going again.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
But like to me, Sinner is one of those it's
where I'm like Michael B. Jordan his best performance. I
think Delroy Lindo probably like if Sinners gets that eight
to ten breakage of nominations, the problem is and I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
We race wore it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Is like every category Sinners will get like a justified nomination.
There's gonna be a possibly better argument everything in this movie.
Like Paul Thomas Anderson, he's been like now he's like
a middle aged established directing star. It's his turn, right,
Not to say he gets it just because it's his turn.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Right, No, the movie would earn it, But yeah, I
know what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Coogler. It's gonna be like, how can you not give
a direct it's like, well, the movie's really good and
it's his turn. It's the double and then Delroy Lindo great. Great.
I don't know anybody who's given a better performance than
Sean pet That's.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Crazy, I know. I know. Like I was like I
left the theater word you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I was like, like, iry bird just put.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Up with the jacket on, with the jacket out, and
he walked. He walked into the motherfucker All star three
point contest with the jacket on. Was like, y'all all
playing for second place right right?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Put his finger huh.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yes yes, with them booty shorts and some flat ass
hard converse with no art support, and was like, you
know what, put up a wooden bucket.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I'm going I got this like like that, I'm sure.
I'm like, it'll be competing, like what white guilt versus
the the esteem of a white man being making a
revolutionary film. It'll be those conflicting like thoughts in the academy.
I think, like, do we reward you know, this black

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excellence and everything that that meant with the with the
box office and everything for centers, you know, the even
Coogler getting the rights to his own film back from
the studio like it means something, and even like the
head of the studio is saying it means something like
this is a black film and that's why he should
get the profit. But then nothing can make white people

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prouder than a white person who's like, I get it right,
like and I feel like Paul Thomas Anderson's gonna get
the I get it bumped, you know, the like yeah,
because that's who I like. It allows the Academy people
to be like, that's who I am. Now. The thing
that has changed in the Academy, I think a lot
of analysis of Academy has not caught up with it yet.
When they opened up all that extra voting and let

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all those other black and brown people in, it has
shifted some of the who's gonna win calculus because I
think when it was just all white, you could be like, Okay,
the white guilt vote, they got it this year, or
in some years the white backlash vote, like, oh, you
won't be winning now. I'm not sure how the numbers
are gonna shake out, but those two films, to me,

(19:05):
are they're gonna be at each other's next And uh,
the online race war is gonna be insane.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
When can I give you the jails? Yeah, go ahead,
everything all the Paul Thomas Anderson basically sweet sweeps. It
defeats him except for one category where Tianna Taylor loses
to Hayley Steinfeld.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Right right, That's that's my nightmare scenario. Yep, that's the one.
And then we and then we pull up, we pull
up on that Academy like January sixth, and burn that
ship down. You're like, man, I mean, and then I'm
and then I'm in the background, like, I mean, they
had some points, but I'm not gonna burn it down.

(19:47):
But I mean I understand, you know. It's like it's
like after I saw fuck the myherschel Ali Race movie. Yeah,
everyone on Twitter hated it, and I saw it after
the hate wave or whatever. Oh no, I saw it before.
I'm sorry. I saw it before I knew everyone's gonna
get mad. I saw it in the theater and I
walked out. I was like, fuck, that was a good movie, man.

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And then later I saw that this man lied his
father was a racist. He this didn't even happen. He
couldn't teach a black man to eat chicken. I was like,
I cried during the chicken eating scene. That was. I
thought it was racist bonding, you know. So, yeah, that was.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
That was a difficult one because you couldn't really it
was like almost separate. Instead of separating art from the artist,
it's like separating artists from the guy who wrote the.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Movie, right right.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, they were good, they were they were good, and
the movie was entertaining great performances.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
But yeah, apparently none of it's true. But whatever. I mean,
I don't go to the movies. It's not a documentary.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's not that one. Actually, I should say F one
is fourth on my list. It's not as distant. That's one.
I kind of I'm doing that thing where I don't
think of it as like prestige because it was so fun. Yeah,
that one, that's my that's my top four. F one
was good and that movie is like, I.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Gotta watch that next. Yeah, one. F one was so
good because I think what these uh you know, some
of these better directors are doing is just leaning into
the theater experience. And I think that's just so smart
because you can actually get people to go to the
theater if you make sure that they understand that this
is a theater movie.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Right, and not something you could just watch on your TV.
You're not gonna get the same experience.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, because the studios have really killed They've killed the
theater experience with their streaming apps.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yes, and they be like why don't you come to
the theater? People be like, well, you cut the time
from like three years to six days. Why would I
do that?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
This what's really telling for me is superhero movies. Yes,
because superhero movies aren't making what they were making at
the box office, and when they're in the theater. You
can see, especially online, the like the general opinion is like, man,
it's bad. Who wants this? Who cares? I'm not gonna
see this ship or look at the box office? No

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wonder that they need to just wrap this up. But
then when it comes to streaming, there becomes a new
there's like a news surge online of people being like, hey,
you know, Thunderbolt is actually really good. And then all
of a sudden they're putting uh screen like they're putting
clips from the movie to be like, oh, this was
really cool, look at this and this, and I'm like
and this has been happening consistently for like about a

(22:23):
year now of shit on it in the theater, no
one goes, you know, underperformed streaming every all of a sudden,
Oh man, this is great. And I think it's because
of streaming, like they killed it themselves. They make people go,
why the fuck would I like go see this if
I can wait three months see it on Disney Plus,
which I already paid for.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I just saw, like when Superman came on, I was like, oh, true,
I thought that was like a coming soon demo Superman's Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
A lot of that stuff sometimes be like within weeks. Yeah,
well you can actually just purchase it, and so that's
killing it. And a lot of times they do that
prior to it coming to the apps. And I think,
and maybe I might be wrong, but I think the
turning point was Black Widow. And the reason why I'm
gonna say the turning point was Black Widow because Scotlett
Johansson was right, because they did not put it in

(23:16):
the theater, was it? That's the one they didn't put
in the theater.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
They didn't put it in the theater, right.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
They did not put it in the theater, And it
ended up being the number one streamed em pirated movie
on the Disney plus, and for me that she did
because it should have win in the movie theater because
it was really a movie theater experience. And so I
think that was kind of the turning point for me

(23:43):
there to show that once this ship hit the masses, they.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Love it, because that was definitely one. But see that.
I think the difference is is it never went to
the theater. It never really got that like the hate,
because what I'm saying is there's a cycle of like
hate that happens as the movie is in the theater,
which is a bunch of people, in my opinion, rationalizing
not spending a bunch of money to go see a movie,

(24:07):
which is totally fine, but you know, it becomes like
this must be a shitty movie, which is different than
I just don't want to see it. It's no, this
is shitty. But once again, once it's available streaming, it's,
oh man, you know what, man, this Fantastic four. It
wasn't bad.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
It wasn't bad.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
And so I think these other directors that have some
cachet have managed to find I don't even want to
say it's a loophole. I mean, James Cameron's been doing
it for fucking ten years now, but it's to just
make the theater experience good, make it for people to
f One was great to me because I was in Imax.

(24:46):
I sat there the fucking front and I felt like
I was in that fucking car when that motherfucker was
floating at the end, and I like, honest to god,
I felt emotional that he was in the zone. I
was like, God, damn me and the goddamn zone he
was talking about, and that that can't I know people
will feel differently, and maybe their houses are set up

(25:07):
different than mine. You just can't do that at your house.
It won't be the same. You will be like, all right,
but you like I don't like. It's my defense of
the Avatar movies. Yes, you don't have to like them.
You can hate them if you want to. But if
you didn't see it in the fucking theater, I don't
give a fuck about your opinion. There's only one way

(25:28):
to see that movie, right. It gotta be the IMAX,
it gotta be the three D. You need the whole
fucking James Cameron experience, or else you're just some motherfucker
at home watching the flat screen. And I think Sinners
has done that Paul Thomas Anderson did that. F one
has done that. I didn't see Warfare in the theater,
so I can't speak to that experience, but like these

(25:49):
other ones did it.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, you don't need the theater. You just need to
put your phone away for ninety five minutes and be
like it's it is a ninety five minute urians like it.
It's the most intense war movie I've ever seen, and
it has a message that that is very clear at
the end of the movie, but like it just presents
it to you. It's not like there's no score, there's

(26:13):
no like ah, the message war. It's like it's just
I can't it's it's very unique. It's it's really just
and it's one of those movies where I'm like, yeah,
that's in my top three. I'm not sure I'm ever
gonna watch it again.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Oh yeah, I hear that. I hear yon that. Did
you watch The Phoenicians same? By any chance? J what
Wes Anderson The Phoenicians schame?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I'm sorry, I hate to say, I can't stand Wes Anderson.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
That motherfucker. The Phoenicians game feels like a parody of
Wes Anderson by Wes Anderson meta.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Now it's like there's no difference between somebody doing a
spoof of Wes Anderson and Wes Anderson.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I was gonna say that I watched Family Guy last
night and they had an episode where it was three
different directors. It was Peter gets fired, it was Tarantino,
Michael Bay and Wes Anderson and the Wes Anderson one.
I was like, that's just Wes Andrews, Like, I don't
even think you're adding extra jokes. He would do this.

(27:20):
He's so fucking weird. I think he has I don't
want to say he's using AI, but if you told
me he was using a random quirk generator, like how
on the Internet, how they used to have rap name generators.
I think he types of character's name in and it
sends like seven quirks back and it's like she's a
nun who wears a monocle, who went to UCLA to

(27:45):
play basketball but hurt her knee, so she uses a crutch,
and she also speaks Italian, but she went to school
in Egypt. Boom, that's my character, and her name is
Cleopatra of Swanson. Boom, that's one character put the put
Venicio del tour in the Next Generator. It's fucking insane.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
And I saw the name that I tweeted this like
when that movie came out, I said, the Phoenician scheme
sounds like a name he thought of to specifically anger
people who don't like his movies. Yes, yea, the Phoenicians,
like stop with it, just stop. Yes, too precious, You're

(28:32):
too fucking precious. Wes Anderson, right, do something different, like
even Tim Burton. Tim Burton has a style, yes, like
like you know, you know what Tim Burton style. But
I don't feel like every movie has just been printed
from the Tim Burton factory.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yes, And Wes Anderson whoever introduced that man to Jeffrey Wright,
he owes that person everything because for a long time
it was like this brother, really what he can not
found a black person to be in these movies.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
I didn't watch them. I was like, I'm not watching
his white ass shit, just quirking and changing scenes every
five seconds. So when that shit come up, I go.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Boom, I'm like he can he can imagine?

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Was the one I think is the funniest. Before I
got turned off by the Royal Bounds just because I thought, yeah,
Danny Glover and that when I thought Gene Hackman, Yeah,
I like worth watching.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
But the problem but see that's my thing. Though He'll
work with these other people over and over. Jeffrey Wright's
the first black person he's worked with over and over ever,
so whoever introduced them, shout out to that person because
that that he's like cool. I can check that off
my diverse. And Jeffrey Wright is such a great thesbian.
He's practically built to be a Wes Anderson character because

(29:45):
he's one hundred percent. I can stare at the screen,
give you dialogue, give you gravitas, but never break the
like the wall of what Wes is building. But man,
this this one and I like Wes Anderson film. I'm
not a hater. This one is the It's it's like
Highest to Lowest, but for Wes Anderson, where like I

(30:06):
watched Highest to Lowest and I was like, this is
the most Spike Lee shit he's ever done. He has
to stop and nobody rain or like, where where are
the people who stop Spike Lee from being Spike Lee?
So that his movies can be great? We don't want
to see twelve scenes about the Knicks. Only you want
to see that, Spike Lee, I don't need like that.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I just thought it was too long. It's too long.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's too long because it's too Spike Lee, I don't
need the Puerto Rican Day Parade starring Rosie Perez in
the middle of the fucking movie.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Critics love that, by the way, critics love that's right.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Because they they would want the whole movie to just
be that. It's not a real fucking movie. It's I
don't like when, like, I love Spike and he always
does a jag in every movie, right. I think it
was She Hate Me that has the like the Watergate
shit from like twenty minutes, like what, but but this
one from me was like it made Spike feel I

(31:02):
felt like this was Spike at his oldest because it's
a movie that's supposed to be about music, and I'm
supernaturally in tune with hip hop and young music compared
to most of my peers. You are, so I feel
like most people that think it's good don't know anything

(31:22):
about the music that's out now. So to me, it
sounds like a sixty year old man's version of like
this what the kids are into? Young feeling and jay
Z was rapping and he was It's like, so, Denzel
is jay Z freestyling against Some people might think that's dope.
To me, I felt that's the first time I felt

(31:44):
like Denzel was old. I was like, oh damn.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
The one thing though, that and I think that movie
got me early because it was speaking directly to something
I'm concerned, like that matters to me, which was the
private equity buying like the catalog and then just using
it for commercials and not caring. So like that that angle,
I like that. Yeah, okay, I'm here, I'm here. No,

(32:09):
I just me personally, I thought it just went on
too long. Yeah, but let's send down on a note
of agreement.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Denzel running through the streets at seventy years old chasing
now young Felon. That was also a bit of a
reach to me.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, Peacemaker.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Oh wait, no, I'm an episode behind. But I know
all right, already already you are episode Yeah, I listen.
I'm saving it because I'm such a I'm such a
comic book nerd. I'm pretty sure I know what the
motherfucking twist is and I can't. I I what happens

(32:49):
is I review it on Mondays with a podcast called
mc University. So I try to watch it closer to
when we're gonna record, so I'll either watch it tonight
or tomorrow morning. But I know, my man, let me
just put it this way so we won't spoil anything,
because not everyone's a caught up either. My man, James
gun is in his mother fucking bag. And I'm looking

(33:14):
back and realizing James guns on my list of people
that they don't miss for me.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
He don't miss, No, you don't miss from me, dog.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Like DC really lucked up when Marvel fumbled him. Because
if James Gunn would have took over the MCU, I
feel like that people would feel differently about the MCU
right now. They'd be like, it's fucking great now he is.
He is murdering it over there, and he ain't afraid
to tackle some like icky shit and not and I

(33:43):
and that's why I funk with him.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
It's I think, obviously I love all three Guardians of
the Galaxy. I think that I know I've been one
of those haters the you know, but as the non
comic book guy, I still think I get well, maybe
not credit, but I'm so impressed with that first twenty
I mean twenty movies.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
But the only thing I really like post those twenty
is like Guardians of the Galaxy three, which I thought
was great, right, and the Spider Man are pretty good, yeah,
the New Spider Man. But Superman I liked. I didn't
love it, but I certainly thought it was good and
worth my time, enjoyable. But Peacemaker is so good.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
It's real.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
And I really think this episode is the laugh I
let out at the twist because it was both so funny,
so raw, and so I did not see it coming
that I like. I like a twist that has me

(34:49):
like burst out laughing, like I just heard one of
the funniest jokes ever. Yeah yeah, and it's dark at
the same time. And that's when I saw James Gunn
married the actress who plays hardcore mm hmm. And I
looked and I said, Normally I'd be like petty and like, oh,
just because you're the boss. But like I do this
sometimes I go, you know what, No.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
You've earned it, you got the juice, Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, that's like like when Billy Joel was married to
Christy Brinklass. No, no, no, you I don't care what
you look like the talent it is a ten. Yeah
and uh, and that's how I felt when I saw Wicked,
and I thought, you know, before I hated Ariana Grandi,
I was like, you break up family. Then I saw
the movie, I said, you know what you get one
family breakup?

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Listen. She earned she earned that ship when she hit
that when she hit that ship with that. Hell, hey man, listen.
Because I went into Wicked, Uh, I think I got
the screener for it. I didn't see it in the
theater because I was like, it's a musical, I probably
won't even enjoy it. But and then I saw it
with the screen, I was like, fuck, I fucked up.

(35:55):
That was so good. That was so good.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
She is a little ball of talent, yes, just inanely talent.
And then Cynthia Revo it has nothing to do with
breaking up families, but like her voice is so the
only word I could it was like it was, it's
so clean and pure and powerful, like like, just I

(36:19):
can't wait for Wicked.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Too, Yes, I can't either the musical.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
I want to see the musical now.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
But it's coming here. Yeah, I'm so tempted to get tickets.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Deck because because the Blooming Thal.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I'm like, do I want to?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
She won't go see the She won't watch the movie though,
that's crazy? Why not?

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
The movie to me is so is now the way
I know it. I want to finish the movie the show.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah no, I fuck with that movie Heavy Dog and
uh the Jeff Goldblum is the Wizard was good in it,
like and he's just in it just enough, like it's like, yeah,
they that And then like the other thing that made
me realize watching that was how much musicals get to
cheat the system because a song gets the count as plot. Yes,

(37:03):
oh yeah, so so like you can't get away like
Paul Thomas Anderson can't get away with that, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Like, butably Wes Anderson could try, but I can't imagine
him letting his characters sing, you know, I just can't
imagine he wants.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
To make them talk to the camera and narrate the shit.
But uh, yeah, so I but yeah, I'm in for
Wicked to one. I will be in the theater for
that shit, and I'm gonna do the same thing. I'm
going to the Imax theater because it feels like an
immersive experience.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
They really spent the money not in like the big
screen and credit. I gotta give credit all the little
girls that were in that theater. When I saw it
with Laura on like Thanksgiving weekend. Yeah, it was so
funny because I gave Laura and I just said, look
the ten girls together, fourteen years old. Not one is

(37:53):
on their phone. They're into they locked in the mom.
The mom is on her phone. You know what, how
dare you? Because this is learned behavior.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, you're passing it down. We hate to see it.
But also like stand up wise though, like where can
people go see you? Right now? I feel like we
got to talking and that's my bad.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
No, no, no, there were a lot of things I
wanted to talk about. I've been enjoying pop culture these days,
a very big rarity.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
So it's all it took was that world turning the ship,
complete fucking ship, and then here come the artist. Thank you. Yeah,
I get it, seventies, I get it now, Yes, yes,
I get it. Disco. All you need is a few
public assassinations. The next thing, you know, fucking movies are back.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
No renaissance is upon us.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Indeed, I'm in DC this Saturday for two shows of
the DC comedy Loft. So you know, people are always joking,
are you gonna get I'm like, honestly, Trump arrests me. Yeah, career, right,
my career needs that kind of algorithm boost.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
That would be some good That would be some good juice.
It would yeah, like I I you know, I'd raised
the gofund me for you, but that, yeah, that would
be some good juice. Like comedian lawyer for housing.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
By the by that time activist, you know, by the
nature of being arrested, you'd be an activist. Yeah, we
would get you out if we just rallied for Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah. And then the l Salvador weight loss. Planet's like
jail went Tel Savador for six months. He dropped that
seventy five pounds he was trying to lose.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
It would be weird though, because when people talk to me,
I'd be like, yeah, but when he gets out, he's
getting in Kimmel man, he's gonna be he gonna do
the whole late night circuit. Man. They gotta have him
on now. This is big break. Like they're like, no, sorry,
we had to preempt you.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Colbert Sark Cooper lip synced your prison videos. And so
we have her on.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
There's a new Trump guy does TikTok dances and he
doesn't say anything, and we just think that's better right now.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
The U that's so DC. And then Philly. I'm in
Philadelphia October twenty second, and this is just like I'm
trying to get because this is like with the job,
the East Coast gigs are important because those are the
ones that I don't have to give up, you know
what I mean. Like I can get to Philly in
two hours. I can be at the club in an
hour and a half from Jersey. So it's like I

(40:19):
can work and go do the show. It's not like hey,
I'm taking off for this or that, and so I'm
hoping to sell well there also, but I'm trying to
get on this like popular radio show and I've emailed
them from both my emails and instagram them and no response.
I'm like, this isn't Joe Rogan. I'm trying to get right,
it's like a popular local Philly show and I'm headlining

(40:41):
one of the two big clubs in Philly, but no
response so far. So and then after that, I'm in December,
I'm in Toronto again and then I'm in Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yes, we will be there.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
It's on sale. Charlotte people. I'm gonna be consulting with
you in like late October for any other CHARLOTTEI media.
You might be able to.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Whatever I can do, man, But yeah, I'll definitely, uh
whatever I can do to help. But yeah, we'll be
there for sure. I know my dad and my mom
are big fans too, and they'll love to come. We
recently saw Sidney Castillo at the same venue that you're
gonna be at.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
That was a great time.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Unbeknownst to me and my dad's my mom, they're the
huge Sydney. Sydney Castillo fans. I know him as a
friend and coworker from Game Theory, and so when I
got them.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
The VIP seats right he put.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Us literally we were fucking on the stage and he
was like doing some stuff with my dad and like
you know, getting down like the one me and like
talking directly to him. My dad was in heaven. Man.
It was I felt like the coolest son ever.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
You know what was hilarious While Sydney was talking, he
would just call Rod by his name.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, and I know the people say, who the fuck
is Rod. Yeah, none of them know. He's like, come on,
you know, it's like, uh, they don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Yeah, I was like this even have no idea who
is He's so good man.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I'm hoping to be very sharp at that Charlotte show
because I'm recording two specials in Toronto. One is another
Trump versus Canada like town hall, and then like another
stand up special. So so like when I go to Charlotte,
I'll just run that set again.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
And I don't I know we've talked since, but I
don't know if you've been on the show since the
Trump special came out on YouTube. I know you were
here to promote it, but just yeah, okay, so I
gotta say it to you in front of everybody. Is
fucking amazing, Like you were not under selling it, like
you were like this ended up being a professional like

(42:44):
drone shoot, multi camera, beautiful situation and you know, and
I know, I know you're very uh confident in your
in your work, but it's earned confidence. It's not over confidence.
I know you don't oversell. So I was just like, man,
I gotta what what could this possibly be that has

(43:04):
JL buzzing about? It? Is set and yeah, it was
so good. I was sharing it with everyone, telling people like,
you gotta go check it out and just you know,
once again, never breaks character, riffing off the top of
the head and still being funny and and does the
thing that I think is one of the hardest parts
of Trump think is because I think a lot of

(43:25):
people pull up a little short because they don't want
to like piss off the audience or lose them. But
I think I like when you go a little too
far and lose the audience as Trump and then get
them back, you know, cause it to me, that's that
that is Trump. The experience can't be too gentle or
is it not authentic?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
It can't. It can't be just like what are you
okay with? Like like the one joke and I got
a couple of complaints in the comments on it, But
was when I said, you know, your chef shrewing conservatives
like Chris ben Wi It was a wrestler known as
the Canadian Crippler who did emerge her suicide on his family. Now, yes,
I don't like that, but I'm like, if I'm gonna

(44:05):
be parodying Donald Trump, dudes in boats like so And
then somebody was like that was really beneath that was
really like kind of not classy, and and I was like,
I'm parodying the worst man on earth. I don't know
how you thought I could maintain decorum.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
First, this man was at a funeral where the widow
forgave the killer of her husband. And then he went
up and said he is not nice and would not
forgive his enemies at a fucking memorial service, and then
turned it into a Trump rally that.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
That's Obama had gone to the church in South Carolina
or the trial and said, actually, fry that motherfucker. Yeah, sorry,
church folk, fry his ass, you know what I mean,
Like it would be like, oh my god, right, oh

(45:01):
my god.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
The worst thing is, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
The presidency beneath the president.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
They thought a tan suit was beneath the presidency with him,
So that show you what the bar is.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Honestly amazing. This is one of the biggest uh our lives.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Man.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, well I'm about to I'm about to hit the music.
I'm about to hit the music. Give me a second.

Speaker 6 (45:27):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 7 (45:31):
When she happened to turn black and now she wants
to be known as black.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
People have got to know whether or not their presidents
are crooked. Well, I'm not a crook.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I learned everything I've got saying in Tennessee. I know
what she's fetched problem in Queen Street, but just want
want shame on Shame on me, Shame on, shame on you,
Shame on you. We can't get fool again. I tell
you what, I don't know about you, but I'm going
to go to bed.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
I'm going.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
What I was going to say is we're basically living
in the cliche joke of twenty twenty of like if
Obama would have did that or twenty sixteen, we're just
living it now. It's just like this, all of this
shit is unacceptable on every level if it was a
Democrat in office. But somehow it's just another day under Trump,

(46:23):
and that the outrage and the pushback isn't really being galvanized.
Here's some politics till we get mad, guys, because you know,
it continues to happen and we continue to be upset.
Clarence Thomas is finally pulling out the full Maybe we
should go back and look at old legal president and

(46:46):
overturn it. Many of us said, this is going to happen.
Especially if Trump got a second term. Many of us
felt like it was happening even under Biden. And I know,
legal scholars and stuff have to believe in the impartiality
of the system, you know. I listen to sisters in law,

(47:06):
and over the last like four years under under Biden,
it's like they were, you know, parsing their words. Of course,
they they're you know, they're held to a certain standard,
but I'm not, And I'm just like, no, that's not
what's happening. I don't think, uh, they're coming to like
these judicial like conclusions of like, well, you know, based

(47:27):
on this they really arbitrarily seem to pick like what
would help Republican mart you know.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
They actually very specifically side with with Republican stuff like that.
I recommended this book a while ago, and I'm going
to try and have the author on my podcast. But
I feel like anybody who's at all interested in the
Supreme Court and where it is right now. This guy,
Steve Vladdock, he's a professor at Georgetown Law Now. He

(47:56):
wrote this book called The Shadow Docket. He's such a
good writer at like laying out the like Supreme Court
stuff in very kind of accessible language and what they're
doing with these like emergency applications is it's one of
those things. That's why we both are in the same
boat of blaming voters mostly like I refuse. I am

(48:19):
so tired and it keeps happening of Democrats being blamed
for the choices that American citizens have made. Right, But
there is a sort of I think I've called it
like citizen malpractice going on where it's like, this is
like the Supreme Court, we should be more invested in
knowing the Supreme Court. Like if we were more invested.

(48:41):
Hillary Clinton gets elected in twenty sixteen exceper So even
if you don't know the nitty gritty, you know it's
important and it's a major issue. But he breaks down
like how hypocritical the conservatives are in terms of when
they grant these these emergency applications and Trump. This is
how Trump's circumvents like the normal process because they'll do

(49:03):
something like, you know, just in general terms, Okay, if
you're going to take someone's fundamental right away, you should
err on the side of not taking it away until
we've heard the full case. Well, if those rights are
right wing supported, that's what they'll do. But even if

(49:23):
it's a long held right that liberals want to keep.
They'll go, well, we'll allow you to take it away
for now, and then we'll hear the case in four months.
And in cases of like immigration, deport them to South
Sudan now and in three months we'll hear the case. Well,
this is exactly the kind of right that you don't
do that until you Now, if you decide, make a

(49:44):
full decision, lay out your reasoning, then then they can go. Then.
I mean, it may not be good, but you've done.
You've taken away a right or something that people expect
with the full process.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Same thing they're doing with firing people that he's never
gonna able to fire. They're like, oh, no, you can
fire them, and then we'll hear the case in three
months after they've been fired.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
And it's the aid money you are allowed to yes,
eight the four billion in aid money that Congress said
you have to give. Yes, so undoing the power of Congress.
But in four months will hear the full case. Yes,
but people are dead.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
And meanwhile, meanwhile, under Biden, when he had to try
several ways to get like just student loan debt forgiven,
and each time they're like, whoa, whoa WHOA. President can't
just do what they want to do. You can't just
do anything. And it's like but with Trump, they're like,
you can do anything and then we'll think about what
we're going to say about it later. I feel like

(50:44):
Democrat voters and the people that hate Democrats a lot
of times that I think you would be very familiar
with it, and that's why you picked up on it early,
because they're kind of like fans of your comedy, by
which I mean the amount of times I remember during
Hillary running her being like, the Supreme Court is on

(51:09):
the dogget like, this is on the ballot. You guys
need to vote for me. He will get to pick
the next president picks two to three Supreme Court justices.
And I do remember even like friends being like, well,
she never brought up the Supreme Court. I was like,
but she did, which feels like you're in my city.
When are you coming to When are you coming to Philly?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
And you're like, I was, let me know when you're
in Denver. First of all, I don't know you. I
have a website, I have nine hundred and eighty social
media accounts. I can't do individual outreach, Like if Hillary
Clinton has to knock on one hundred million doors and
say by the way, the Supreme Court everybody, then we

(51:53):
then then then we have no hope.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
That's it that we have to do a little bit,
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
The infram is there, it's very accessible. You got to
take one step. And that's the thing about our culture
in general. This is why I'm always kind of wrapping
up comedy, social media, politics, culture. We've all kind of
just been like, well, it's just just scroll, and like
that's if you don't reach me on the scroll, I

(52:19):
just assume you're dead or don't care or don't exist.
And it's like you have to do We used to
do ten steps together. Now people do one to get
vital information, vital as a and as a life of
our country.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I feel like as a as a movie fan, you
must experience this too. Is like when a movie doesn't
do well at the box office and I see people
online say stuff like well, I mean they didn't promote it,
and I'm like, that's not true, that's not true. Like
they like there are some movies that really they that

(52:57):
maybe just they're going straight to streamers, but in general,
they always promoted wherever you're at. If you're on Amazon,
if that's the studio that fucking it has the movie
that's gonna be in the theater before, they'll fucking put
it on every ad. If you're watching TV, it's every
fucking commercial. But you gotta be watching the kind of
TV they would show that, you know, like they're not
gonna show highest to lowest on the country music channel,

(53:20):
but they will show that on fucking BT or whatever. Right,
But it's just like, oh no, you're not paying attention.
But most importantly, if you care about this, they don't
need to promote it. You know where to go to
find where the new movies are. You know what I
say before every fucking movie now, trailers long, thirty minutes
of fucking trailers. I ain't know what's coming out, even

(53:43):
when I don't want to know what's coming out. Movies
I hate. I ain't know tron Aris is coming out.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
I don't want to see that bullshit. And you know,
and some movies get so bad, I'll be glad when
it's bullshit. I'm outside east Side know it's good.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
But you know where I'm at in the theater, yes,
where they would show it to me, and so when
it when it hopefully flops, I hope it does. I
know there's gonna be people that are like, man, they
didn't promote that trying areas. I'm like, bitch, it was everywhere.
But that I feel like that is also politics, right,
it is. Well, Kamala didn't say he was gonna put

(54:17):
the military in the streets of cities. I'm like, she
did a lot. Here's a clip, here's a newspaper paper
headline saying they don't believe that he's gonna do it
and that she's lying about it, Like we have so
much evidence, But what do you do when someone's feelings
are more important in reality? And I feel like that's
something that has really especially to have in a social

(54:38):
media with our cameras turned towards us, it really has
taken over the world where it's like my individual feelings
and personal like whatever that is way more important to
what's that is what's happening to me. To me, Kamala
didn't do shit because I decided that. That's that I decided.
I can blame her more than I can blame myself.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Right, the cycle is very clear.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
What we do.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I don't pay attention. I decide with little information that
I like I prefer this person, or that this person's worse.
I turn out to be one hundred percent wrong, and
then I blame the people who are trying to help me.
This is we are a country of people who sue
the emergency room doctor like, and they didn't do any malpractice.

(55:29):
They're just like, you came in here with you came
in here with type six diabetes, and I told you
stop eating sugar. Then you went home and ate a
cupcake and died, and now your family is telling me
I didn't do my job right. Yes, And I think
that's kind of where Democrats are at this point. And
meanwhile they're like, I'd rather vote for the cupcake.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
And that's this shit. I guess mentally jailed. That's this shit.
It pisces me off. And because because I'm not a
lawyer and I'm not a politician, I'm like, fuck you
in that cupcake, Like I just turn around and just
snap it everybody and be like, you know, you need
to do your part.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Two yeah, Speaking of which, Joe Rogan has broken his
silence about the Jimmy Kimmel suspension. He said, I definitely
don't think that the government should be involved ever in
dictating what a comedian Canna cannot say in a monologue.
That's fucking crazy. He also said the problem is the

(56:31):
companies if they're being pressured by the government. So if
that's real, if people are on the right are like, yeah,
go get them. Oh my god, you are crazy. You
are crazy for supporting this, because this will be used
on you. Of course, Trump, who's been on his podcast,
was celebrating the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel and then claimed
that he would sue ABC for bringing Kimmel's show back.

(56:55):
So that's directly about that. And he also bo said
as far as like them preempting the show for with
Next Star and Sinclair Broadcast Group, all that does is
help him. It makes his show bigger. Talking about Kimmel,
there's much more support. I'm sure there's a lot of
hate as well, which is not fun. But at the
end of the day, if the show comes back, he

(57:16):
comes back to a standing ovation. Donald Trump tweets mean
shit about him, and then the world moves on. He
also slammed Trump for constantly writing on true social about
late night shows. I think that is all that is
also fucking insane. I don't have time to do that.
How do you have time to do that? How do
you have time while running the world to be tweeting
that you don't like talk show hosts? That is so crazy.

(57:37):
So that's Joe Rogan coming late to the party.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Very late. He's home from his elk hunt. Yeah, but
but I think, like, to me, that's it's still you know,
even somebody like Joe Rogan as influential as rich and
has stop cookie Cookie's apparently yeah, come on, bros. As
big as he is, has riches, he is as influentially

(58:01):
as he is couldie stop is he even won't just
go all the way like he just won't state It's
like if you're going after talk show hosts, man, just
say this. Dude wants to be a fucking dictator, Like
come on like this like oh yeah, Well, on the
specific issue of this is the difference talk like guys

(58:23):
like Rogan are trying to be like Supreme Court justices,
which are like, I'm gonna answer this very narrow procedural
question and lay down of precedent here, and the Supreme
Court is just like do whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Yes. And also also he's I and I think same
thing because I'm about to do Bill Martino. But I
feel like they're speaking up because it's affecting comedy, and
it's like, here's the one place where I don't like
people fucking with it, you know, like their big thing
against liberals was just, well, sometimes liberal people don't like

(58:57):
the jokes we make or the topics we broke to
the way we talk. And so now all the way
over here with mag I'm all the way to Trump.
And then all of us are like, Trump's not better
on that, He's way worse about people laughing at him.
And they're like, and they've been defending him for years
and under the auspices of I'm just for comedy and
free speech, and here comes a guy going against comedy,

(59:19):
against free speech, and I feel like they know they've
been wrong this whole time. So many people have told
them they can't they're not ignorant. Bill marsh talked about
losing liberal friends and people won't come in the show anymore.
So he knows that people are The reason they're not
coming is because they've they're told him they don't want
to go to this fucking show and listen and be
smug about something they think he's wrong about. And so

(59:41):
now that it's Kimmel, it's guys, Republicans, this is getting
the authoritarianism. We gotta slow it down. This is gonna
be fascism soon. It's like, so the comedy, not the
rounding the people up, not the not the you know,
the Bill Maher is trying to do some equivocation with

(01:00:02):
like Christian genocidy and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
The blowing up of Venezuelan boats. Like right, and this
is what like these are the people who and libertarians,
you know, like a Bill Mark type. He's like a
left libertarian, you know, like he still has a lot
of that kind of selfishness, you know. Libertarian to me
is just kind of like selfish. Like the philosophy, it's
like I want to do what I want to do, right,

(01:00:27):
and that's it, Like that's my political philosophy. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
But also it's such a privilege, it's such a hold
on It's such a privilege too, right, because it's it's
kind of like when he's on my street. Now I'm
gonna say something, and their street is you know, comedy talk.
So it's like, whoa, this is crazy. Now I got
to say something. You know, even Andrew Schultz, like well

(01:00:50):
this he did a false equivocation of like the killing
of Charlie Kirk with Jimmy Kimmel getting his show taking
off the air, which is you know, he has low.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Say haired TikTok chicks don't equal the president of the
United States. Yeah, this bolt like this. They keep treating
Trump like he's like a blogger. Yes, you know what
I mean, Like they keep he's the fucking leader of
the government. He is the most powerful country in the world.
This chick on TikTok saying that Sidney Sweeney is racist

(01:01:22):
or or that it's white supremacy not in the same right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Planet, right, jam right, and and like to use that
TikToker or the idea of that type of TikToker for
the last ten years as that's why we gotta support
Trump and then and then to only pull back when
it's like, whoa, he got Jimmy Kimmel pulled off the air.
This is going too far, Like Bill Maher making some

(01:01:51):
declaration of real talk at the end of the show,
like like he's informing us that Trump like cut it out, guys, now,
it's getting serious, Like no, we've been it's been serious.
Everyone told you. But you didn't care when it was
trans kids because you don't like trans people for some reason.
You didn't care about Muslims or foreign people because you
don't fuck with them. You didn't care about women's rights

(01:02:12):
that much because you don't really fuck with women like that.
You you're more of a higher prostitute type of dude.
Like everything was just not you. It was never the
principle of it, because if you were as principal as
you say you are, you would have you would have
stopped way before it got to You've been like, No,
you can't fucking blow up a vote vote full of people. No,
you can't fucking jail somebody for protesting at a college.

(01:02:34):
You can't just take away there there, they went through
all the right paperwork to be a citizen. You can't
just overturn that because you're mad. You can't just deport
someone to a fucking country they're not from because you
don't like that that person doesn't like you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
That that trump up charges like that, abrego garcia guy. Yes,
you just keep like having your people look for new charges. Yes,
and you fired like all these things like that's but
this is where it gets into kind of a citizen
malpractice where I go all these things you should care
about a lot, yes, like, and there's too much hugging

(01:03:09):
the flag makes me a patriot. No the country. That's
the real thing that we don't talk about is that
half this country views patriotism as the symbols of patriotism.
Bald Eagle. You know, peacemakers egan, Showing up is patriotism.

(01:03:31):
Hugging a flag is patriotism. Standing for the anthem is patriotism.
Make benefiting, protecting people you don't like because the ideals
and principles and laws and the constitution are more important
than your personal opinion, that's patriotism, right, Like, But we
there is a half of the country, and I'm the

(01:03:52):
problem is the other half where if you want to
say like two thirds of the country, half of that
two thirds just are kind of checked out. Yes, yeah,
so you have a very motivated half or third that
that thinks patriotism is is white. And I don't even
necessarily mean all of it consciously, but it's white American
go to church. It's not living church values. It's not

(01:04:14):
defending freedoms of people you don't like. It's it looks
this way, it feels this way. That's patriotism. And if
you deviate from that, I say that it's not patriotism.
And the Constitution will mean what I feel it should mean,
not what it means. Right, And we we need the
two thirds yes to kind of because the truth is

(01:04:37):
numerically as big as they are. MAGA should always be
a sort of angry minority party.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Yes, yes, they should. They should be very very They
show up, yeah, and and and they show up and
and they're dedicated, and they pass it down from generation
to generation and they have this. I don't care if
it takes me fifty year, bitch, I'm going after abortion.
That that's them. Folks. We are the folks where Oh
my god, what you mean I gotta go vote? Oh

(01:05:08):
my god, what do you mean you all were last time?
This was the the the election of a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
You told me this was life and death two years ago,
four years ago. Oh my god, when is this ever
going to end? Oh my god, you're talking about voting again.
Oh my god, I am tired. Are you pressing me?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Yeah? I like, I really want to find those people
in shake them and be like, does this not feel
like it was life and death to you? Does it
like remember how you were like rolling your eyes at
I'm sick of hearing this is the most important election
ever and all that shit? Did that not feel like
the most important election ever? Now that our rights are
being eroded, now that this they're attacking private citizens and

(01:05:50):
their TV shows, And now that they're blowing up people
who we don't even know have even committed a crime,
they're just killing them extra judiciously, judicially, Like now that
you know every week you're looking at the Supreme Court
and going, oh, there's a rite I don't have that
I had yesterday. You don't feel like maybe that was
the most important election. And if we go back, I

(01:06:12):
know you don't like I told you so, but you
need a I told you so. If we go back
all the way to twenty sixteen when Hillary was telling you,
and now we have Amy Komy Barrett and we have
a Kavanaugh joining up with the other justices and it's
everything's a sixty three ruling, you don't feel like maybe

(01:06:32):
she was right that that was also the most important election.
How do you not? How can you be so smug
and the I told that you can't hear the I
told you, so you're you're still convinced you were correct
going out to Komy and Bolton. This is just a start.
Those men don't have a tech a country right Like
Republicans hate them, Liberal people hate them. No one's going

(01:06:54):
to like people will stand up for the principle of it,
like some people. Not all, but some people will stand
up for the principle, like no, you shouldn't be able
to do this. But there's a lot of people who
are gonna sit it out because they don't fuck with them,
and they're gonna wait until it's one of those people
that Joe Biden has written a pardon for already that
they told Joe Biden shouldn't have done. They're gonna wait
for They're gonna wait for it to be like Obama

(01:07:15):
or somebody and then be like, oh my god, I
can't believe this is unconscionable. But by then they will
have done it to five or six other people.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
So it's that kind of thing that he's talked about
wanting to indict Obama exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
It's that kind of thing that he telegraphs he's and
they think either he won't do it or something will
stop him. Right, But we were the something.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
Yes we were, Yes we was. It was the citizens responsibility.
And I will always go My thing is I will
always go back to the citizens. And so me and
Rogers talked about this. I don't I don't mind talking
about like on this podcast, but I will not talk
about with most people because all I hear from other
people is excuses and I am sick and fucking tired
of it. People need to take personal responsibilities, no matter

(01:07:58):
what your age. At some period of time, you've got
to care about what impacts you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
You've got to And I understand this is how you
fuck around and find out right, because what happens is
people think it's a cliche. Right, Oh, you guys are
saying everything is important, Everything is important, everything is That's
the truth of the matters. That's what's always been on
the docket in America. You're always trying to stop America

(01:08:22):
from being what the people who can see to America
wanted it to be. Right, not the words they wrote,
but like what they were doing, the actions. Right, it's uh,
you know, sixteen nineteen shit, it's you know, it's like, look,
we wrote a bunch of flowery shit, But what we
were actually doing was genocides, enslaving people, and making sure
women couldn't vote or have rights. And everything we wrote

(01:08:46):
down was the opposite of that. And it's the fight
to make those words be true that makes America America.
That's what makes Martin Luther King probably the greatest person
this country's ever produced, right, because his religion and his
patriotism was about making America live up to what it
was saying. It wasn't a you know whatever. And I'm
sure there were people at the time going like, like,

(01:09:08):
we look at it in the past, but I bet
you during during this time, people were like the most
important election ever, the most important, the most important march ever.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
Yeah, a lot of people didn't even like him, not
a black of people didn't like what he was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
But I will say this, I felt like, you know,
That's why I've always had jokes about like Lyndon Johnson,
where I'm like, sure he set the N word a lot,
probably earned himself a past though like he used he
he like, it's it's so tough to talk about all
this because you look and it's like recent history, Like

(01:09:44):
my parents were alive for all this right, just like
my father was born when Haiti was under US occupation.
It's not like ancient history. And but you look and
you want to be like, do you not. Do you
think it's a coincidence that once Lyndon Johnson whipped the
fucking Congress into shape and bullied them into passing voting

(01:10:06):
rights and civil rights laws and then the South was lost?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Do you think that's a coincidence?

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Yes? Yes, Like, and keep in mind when the Voting
Rights Act is overturned by John Roberts, who's basically like,
we don't need it anymore because obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
He's had he has hated that shit since the eighties
when he worked for Reagan likes I've read about this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
But he finally got it overturned. But his reasoning was
one of we don't need it because if it was
look at black people are voting fine in the South.
It's like they're voting fine because there's an enforcement of
these rules. It's it can go all the way back
to you know, reconstruction.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Like it's like Jader Ginsburg said, that's like going out
with an umbrella and saying, oh, I'm not getting wet,
let's get rid of the umbrella.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Yes, and everyone ends up doing the same thing. I think,
you know, we're human. People feel exhausted of having to
stay vigilant. But that the conservative side of this country
that wants to push everything back and down. They don't
get tired.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
That's my whole point.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
They just don't and so they don't get tired. And
I know our side is the sensitive, emotional side, but like,
I have no respect for these bitches on my side.
I don't respect them. And I don't know if it's
like if you ever played a team sport, like part
of part like part of team playing a team sport
is that it can't be but so nice, you know

(01:11:26):
what I'm saying, Like, like if you played basketball. I
love when coaches respect the players. I love when players
are nice to each other. But if you ever wanted
to be good at it, if you've ever wanted to win,
there's a little bit of get your shit together, man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Like it ain't give you a story that I told
you before, but I was at a basketball camp when
I was fifteen or sixteen, and my coach was like
a former D one point guard, and my defense, you know,
it was it was a tough week. The camp was tough,
and the coach said to me during like a defensive drill,

(01:12:01):
he said, you know what, you're like the pussy, I
like big and saw and what the fast forward three
days later, my uncle watched us in our like We
made the finals of our like division in the camp. Yeah,
like you end with like a tournament and he said
to me after again we won and he said, that

(01:12:22):
was the best defense I've ever seen you play. And
I tell that story all the time because I'm like
you the you know, I'm not looking for Bobby Knight
to choke me, right, that's too far. But like a
coach shaming you once in a while, like is like,
you know, it can tighten, yes, And I feel like

(01:12:43):
I could go to a school or a camp today
and if a coach said that to me, I could
get them fired.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, And it's it's the transfer portal, it's
you know, it's all the stuff that it is better
than what was before. Obviously abuse isn't good. Stuff like that, like,
but you're also making it really easy to just fucking
give up. And there's a lesson to perseverance.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
With my trainer sometimes we do you know, she's introducing
me in new ship every week. And the last thing
I did that was really tough was she had me
do a fucking plank on a medicine ball and that
shit sucked. It was hard, it was and she I'm like,
I'm like, am I doing it right? She's like, yeah,
you're doing it right. And I'm like, okay, what about

(01:13:30):
Like should I've used this thing? And she's like, oh no,
it's just tough. She's like, it's just sometimes it's just tough,
and she's like, you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
Can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
It might not be as smooth as you want. It
might not like you may have to adjust some things
that you do it, but the goal is to do
this for a minute on this thing, holding this posture,
and it's just gonna fucking suck for a minute. And
that that's the thing that I think are politically that
because like when you do hear the complaints about like

(01:14:00):
the idea of the left, I'm not talking necessarily the
Democrats and the elected official, but just the idea of
this nebulous left, because we do want to be sensitive
and we do want to like be empathetic to everybody,
and that's the strength of the party. That's the strength
of that movement. But there is a point of like, yeah,
we can't be sensitive enough that you just get to

(01:14:22):
go home, Like, you gotta be sensitive and also a
fighter like you gotta be a sensitive warrior. You gotta
be like, hey, man, I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
I would like for the solution to be there's no war.
But the options on the table are less war or
all out war. The tough thing to do today is
to go less war. That's tough. That's standing up right now.
You might not feel great about it. You're never gonna

(01:14:54):
ever feel great about it, but you will have done
the right thing. It is a numbers game, is a
if less people die, I'll be better off if if
the person if going to the person who's like, I'm
calling for a ceasefire, but I don't really have I'm
not elected yet, I don't have the power to truly
pull this off yet. But wink win helped me get

(01:15:15):
in here. Let's do this, and you go, fuck it. Man,
you should have said I'm gonna do I'm gonna completely
disavow this ally and you go okay. But the person
who does win will go the complete opposite direction. Right,
So like they they have tricked themselves into thinking the
quitting is being the tough guy, you know. The it's

(01:15:35):
it's literally to make it back to the sports analogy
and Karen, you got it after this, it's literally, Uh,
if we're on a sports team, basketball team, and we're
in practice and they're like run suicides, the guy who
gives up halfway through to quit the team thinks he
he he thinks he is the win. Like, yeah, I
showed them, because if you're gonna make me run suicide,

(01:15:58):
then I won't do anything fuck this team. And you're like,
well that's not That doesn't make you the winn. It
just makes you look fucking quitter. Karen, you got it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
Oh no, I was gonna say when you were talking
about the analogy in basketball, it's like it's like we're
in the game and you get fouled and you turn
around and you be like I got foed on the reference,
like yeah, I called the foul. Like my job, which
is the government, is to say a foul happened. Here's
the penalty. This is what happens when you get fouled.

(01:16:26):
And then the person goes, I got fouled. I'm not
shooting my free throw. I'm just gonna pack my shit
up and go home. The game is over right, and
everybody looking at you, But bitch, we need twelve, we
need ten.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Where's you're going?

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
And they was like, but I got foul.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
People go, yeah, we're down, like it's America. We're down too.
We're down too. If you hit these fra goes, we
can make this happen.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
And they're like, nah, I like in my mind, that's
how I view it, and I'm and you're trying to
explain to them, but we need you and foult and
being fouled is a part of the game. And it's
like a lot of people on the left they don't
want to get fouled, like they don't want anything bad
to happen. They act like everything is supposed to be sugary,
everything is supposed to be sweet, everything is supposed to
go your way. You're not supposed to have no hardship,

(01:17:07):
You're not supposed to be sad or depressed. And we
got supposed to feel any of those feelings and that's
not so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
And we got spoiled because Obama was shut from above
the rim. You know, that's how we got spoiled, like
he showed up in some khakis and some work pads
and some work shoes had dropped fifty on the Republicans
while the rest of us was like, you're watching him
get flagrantly fouled and now and now we're like, now
we're in above the rim too, going like so when

(01:17:32):
we're gonna get another ship, It's like, no, bitch, that
was a one time van. No one's ever doing that again.
Birdie was shooting people after it was crazy, Trump is Birdie,
he was, Trump is Tupac in this. Okay, I'm jail.
You got the last word.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
One other thing, just to keep the sports metaphors going,
because I have been thinking about, you know, my my
congresswoman is right now running for governor, and my congressional
seat opens up if she wins, and I've been talking
to some people and considering throwing you know, throwing in
because I figure in the age of Trump, a half
Haitian history major who went to law school, who's also

(01:18:12):
a comedian who mocks Trump kind of hits on a
lot of things that he's destroying or insulting or afraid of.
But the analogy I would make to voters is like football.
Since and football being the most popular sport in America,
I think it makes more sense. Everybody wants to be
a quarterback, or everybody wants to root for a quarterback

(01:18:33):
and have the quarterback throw at sixty yards to your
wide receiver for a game saving touchdown, and that's football.
Voters are offensive linemen, and anybody in football will tell
you you don't have a line, you don't have a team. No,
you do not, and that is what we are. And
that's why being an offensive lineman fucking sucks, because it

(01:18:56):
is the sixty minutes or thirty minutes of just and
trying to move and protect, advance. And a great offensive
line can carry good players to a championship. A bad
offensive line can destroy good talent. You could you could
have Patrick Mahomes behind a bad left tackle and you

(01:19:19):
could have a broken Patrick Mahomes instead of a Super Bowl.
And I feel like that is the way people need
to view their responsibility. It's not even that they want
to be the quarterback. They just want to wear the
court like the Trunk jersey or the or the Biden
jersey or the and just go do it. That's my
go do it. And it's like our job is to

(01:19:40):
pay attention, to read a paper, to to talk to
other people, to vote in little elections and big elections,
and to keep informed and keep focusing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I love this analogy. I love this analogy because essentially
it gets to the heart or something in football that
I understand. And I hear the intell sextual arguments, but
I'm not swayed by really, And that's the touch push,
Like like I don't mind the touch push actually, like
when they and I know it's bad TV. They can't

(01:20:14):
always officiate it great blah blah blah, but it kind
of is like, you know, trying to outlaw dunking or whatever.
I'm like, I don't know, stop it, stop it. I
don't like they don't win every game, and obviously every
team can't do it, like stop them. I would like to.
Like if I was rooting for the touch push team,

(01:20:35):
I'm like, fuck y'all, Like you put it up to
a rule, a vote, it didn't get over the turn,
and so now this is what the fuck happens and
we're gonna do it until you stop us. And I
think that is not a sexy player any of that shit,
But that to me is politics, right. I think every
time we've ever gotten democratic advancement in America it's because

(01:20:56):
of a touch push. It's never it hasn't been a
hell like we talk about it later, like man that
hell Mary that they threw. It's like, no, they had
so many Democrats in office and such an engaged voting
populace that demanded certain legislation that they just got what
they decided they were gonna get. You know you you
you touch pushed Obamacare, yes, they did, like they they

(01:21:22):
you know you touch pushed the bell out of the
auto industry. That it wasn't sexy, like they had to
go and be like we got the numbers and we're
gonna do it and nothing. It's not gonna make everyone
feel great.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
You're not gonna look back on this infrastructure bill. Come on,
like one vote over, one yard over.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Biden passed the only gun legislation we've had passed in
like twenty years, like and maybe even longer. But my
point being like that it wasn't sexy, like I don't
remember people running down the street like like you won
a super Bowl and you threw the long time they
we were like yay, he did that, and it was tough,
and thank god we got something. Imagine when we could
get with an engaged public that puts their fucking votes

(01:22:04):
where their mouth is. Because the answer for all this
leftist shit is always going to be more Democrats. It's
never gonna be do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
It with less.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
You know, you're not my grandmama sending me to the
store to get her to some new ports and a
pepsi and some bacon and some starch with not enough
money and be like make it enough. Like no, you
have to give me enough money to bring you back
the change. And we as a society have decided that
Democrats need to quote unquote make it enough because it's

(01:22:33):
not our responsibility. If we overwhelmed the polls, we'd overwhelm
the legislation. It's really that simple.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
The last hundred years of American history is literally from
FDR to president is lots of Democrats with a democratic
president equals life and generational changing opportunities and programs. Everybody says,
and you can always point to the yeah, but FDR
exclude back people, of course. And I am not one

(01:23:01):
of those. You know this, I'm not one of the
I spoke about it on an episode like I am
by no means and abandoned trans people. I may reframe
the debate and ask Republicans why don't you think trans
people deserve basic human dignity and rights? Then I'll talk
about sports. Right, you can't jump right to sports if
you don't respect them as people. But with if you

(01:23:24):
just look, it's more democrats, like you said, more democrats,
and it's more difficult now because of jerry mandering. But
to bring about the offensive line analogy, I'd say again,
we have enough voters to have a fifteen person offensive line. Yes,
nobody's getting there. You can do all the progressive shit.
You can just march down with Derrick Henry five yards

(01:23:47):
of carry for twenty plays touchdown. If everybody votes and
sort of buys into the system and has some patience.
The opposite is a pick six. It's not well, let's see,
Donald Trump is not play for your team. Key plays
for the Donald Trumps. That is, they are trying to
run up the score on you. So the option is

(01:24:10):
pick six or more voters, more yards or things to
benefit you. And the more power you have in the vote,
the more you can distinguish and swing the politicians when
you are when you are this close from winning. There's
a there's not a critical mass that makes people go,

(01:24:30):
oh Jesus, I better got you. You you get sixty
in the Senate, which is very difficult, you get two
hundred and fifty in the House, you can start to
throw your weight around to keep with the o linement
announce and it's people just need to really understand their
power and but also their responsibility. I think we've we

(01:24:55):
Voting is not just a you have the power, rock
the vote. It's also not to use the Chris rocklands.
But it's like take care. You're supposed to take care
of your kids. You're supposed to care about your government
and and and and do something about it. And it
can be frustrating, but not do there. We are no
longer in a you either do something positive or neutral.

(01:25:16):
You're either doing something or you're part of the problem.
And that we've gotten. Trump has pushed us to that
point where it's no longer well, what doesn't really matter
if it's Bill Clinton Bush. He has made it if
you can't see and that is the one silver lining
for Trump. It hasn't brought this Susan Sarandon liberal utopia yet. Right,

(01:25:40):
But but if you don't see how much harm can
be done. Yes, man, you are you are, you are,
fuck you good bye. Don't so it's so funny, ignored.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
It's so funny. What activated so many these people was
Jimmy Kimmel like, like there there's a part of me
that that is bitter about it. I'm just glad they're
here now. But you know, seeing like four hundred actors
sign this, you know what I mean, Like, it's like, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
So I think he went too farther starting interrupt. But
I think I think the reason this went to because
even Colbert didn't get this much attention. I think I think,
as I've said, Trump's Trump's kryptonite is that he can't
stop trumping and cannot stop. So he went, well, we

(01:26:27):
got you know, they were afraid, see Paramount was afraid
we wouldn't approve the merger. Okay, well why don't we
go one step further and just start issuing direct threats
on podcasts? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
What I what I I guess what I'm saying. What
I'm saying is it's been too far. It's just this
is the So I'm gonna be a bit bitter that
this is the place they choose to acknowledge that it's
too far. And it's because Jimmy Kimmel's a friend. They've
gone on his show. It means something to them in
a way that a detainee means nothing. You know that

(01:26:59):
a trans kid essentially means nothing. You know, watching politicians
that threw trans kids under the bus, that claim to
be Democrats, but then go this Jimmy Kimmel, Shit, we
gotta take a line in the stand. There's some fuck
you for them too. You know, maybe if they took
a sharp ye out and wrote.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
A message on and I think Randolph is doing most
of the fuck you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Yeah, yo, listen, he leaves the league, the advance the
advanced stats on fuck us and Randolph Terrence he's really high.
This is like yoke yoked, This is yoked level uh ship.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
But yeahs above replacement.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Right, But yeah, if they maybe you gotta write it
some some some messages on some bullets or something to
get some attention around here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
You'd want to make a sketch, yeah, with the holidays,
And I know this would get me in trouble, but
like if I had the I want to do like
a sketch, like an artisanal bullet like engraver, you know,
get the message on your bullets that you want a
loved one to get this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
The thing for me is it made me immediately go
to the Chris Rock bit of like, right, we should
sell Sharpy's for ten thousand dollars or whatever. You know,
It's like it's like everybody everybody is writing messages on bullets,
you know, like everybody got everybody's writing no bullets Like yeah,
it's uh because it doesn't make no one trusts Coge Fatale,

(01:28:23):
Codge Hotel and his and his people investigating it. But
is everybody?

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Are those dudes like those are so that? And I'm yes,
if you made me the head of the FBI.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Right, That's what it's like that a should you be
more qualified? I actually a person, right, a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Little more off. But even if I wasn't technically in
terms of like we each have like X number of
years in criminal law. Right, But that's how ridiculous it
would be.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Yes, even the person that is going after Komi.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
And his deputy podcast his podcasting, right, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
And even the person's going out to Komi, she's never
tried like a case before like this, this is a lawyer. Yeah,
this is this is one hundred cronyism, and and there's
never gonna be enough outrage engender to truly do anything
about it, because these are the kind of things that
would truly have people demanding democrats step down, you know

(01:29:26):
what I'm saying. And it's but you don't feel that
same wave of palpable outrage and energy even from people
on the left, like right, like Ezra Klein will not
spend the next year of his life making podcasts about
how Trump should resign. He just won't. And it's and
it's they can say it's a principal stance or whatever.
There's they can feel like it's being objective or they've

(01:29:49):
but to me, it's just you hold these one people
to a much lower standard and you've already given up.
And that you know, we'll we'll they're gonna try to
spend Kamala had writing her book into some scandal. I'm
sure they'll be like, well she didn't do this writer,
or well she didn't tell us full story, or you know,
she just sucks as a candidate. They'll spend more time

(01:30:10):
litigating that book in a response to it than they
will What is happening with the people in power and
in charge of our country every single day. All right,
let's move into another segment. Let's std in some positive guys.

(01:30:41):
Welcome to the cookout. Welcome to the cookout. Welcome to
the cookout. Welcome to the cookout. That's right. It's time
to do the thing that they say we never do,
and that has invite some allies down to the cookout,

(01:31:06):
the one you say no white people are gonna be at.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
That's a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Or you look around and say, who invited these white people?
Is me?

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
I did?

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
That's right, because y'all walk on up to We all know,
we've all been to the cookout and there's always white
people there. I don't know why we keep turning that
lit on Twitter, but today's inductee into the cookout. We're
quite familiar with this person. They've been there before, but
apparently they want to come back. Billionaire Mackenzie Scott gives

(01:31:36):
u NCF that stands for United Negro College Fund, seventy
million dollars for historically black colleges and universities. That's right.
She's taking that Jeff Bezos money and she's still sprinkling
it around for us. Yeah, he's somewhere spending that amount
of money marrying his new uh you know, Laurence Sanchez

(01:31:59):
or whatever is new. You wanna be bond girl, And
she's like, I'm gonna bond these people out of slavery.
Ain't that the truth? We get freedom. This gift follows
her ten million dollar contribution in twenty twenty, so this
is seventy million wo okay, and she's given she gave
ten million before. It will help bolster the UNCF Emergency

(01:32:23):
Reserve Fund, according to the release from the organization.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
But Trump want to cut all the funding.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Basically exactly, She's strengthening and trying to prepare and help
these universities to weather the storm.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
Got out to the allies.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
UNCF president and CEO Michael L. Lomax say he nearly
lost it when he received the news of the donation,
which we would have to out of fucking fainted. He said.
She is Saint Mackenzie Scott. I know what, So she
is rewriting the book on philanthropy, not just in this
country but in the world. Okay, she could murder somebody,

(01:32:59):
you know what, I'm I think I'll let her say
the N word. It feels in private, like it just
privately between the two of us, you could say at
one time, but don't hold on, make sure everybody out
the room.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Go ahead, and I think then you'd hear it come
out of her mouth and go.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Yeah, no, of course not. I mean it's never gonna
sound good, but.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Yeah, but especially it would have like a half hour,
which was somehow worse. I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
I mean, but that's I'm telling you, that's how much
that she is to contributed her and then the dude
who's who's OJ killed his son. Those two dudes get
one free one. What were you gonna say?

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
No, it makes me like to me, obviously she's given
a lot of money to a lot of causes, but
it seems like there's been a lot of high profile
black college donations. And then I can't help conspiracy theory.
JL I go, you think Jeff Bezos is racist? Like
do you think this is her way of like right

(01:33:57):
him philanthropy?

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
Guess who was coming to dinner? You know it's it's
it's it's a rebellion against your against your Yeah, he's
like she's like, you know what I heard on the
most h what marryon Like some younger guy. No, no, no, no, no,
no no. I'm gonna tell you what he's gonna hate
when I give these black people some money. What really?

Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
Yeah, everybody's so confused, like they'd be like, why are.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
You doing this?

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
You could have went on another vacation.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Like he gets married. She writes a seventy million dollar
check this time, Like she's like, oh, the wedding is on. Okay,
I'll tell you what else is on? Bitch. Fadville State
versus FAM You was on because it's all coming from
my pockets. How about that? The CIAA tournament is on?
It's on. But yeah, she previously had married was married
to Jeff Vezzos, who had an estimated networth of over

(01:34:46):
thirty billion. She has pleased to donate most of her
wealth to nonprofit organizations like un c F. So yeah,
shout out the shouta Mackenzie.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
She's a she's gonna have a building name after hers.
She gonna be up on somebody's wall of governors or something.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Hey, girl, come on down to the homecoming. I'll show
you how to do the wobble.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Okay, we gonna get scholarship.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
We're gonna get you in the electric slide. Let's go sis.

(01:35:30):
All right, let's continue to keep it a little upbeat, guys.
I got a plan for two more segments. The first one,
of course, Uh, we have jail here, so he'll be
very helpful. Let's do some white people news.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Why white people news.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
We lost a white person that is one of the
all timers. I don't care if what race you are,
you definitely heard of this person. One of the last
ones we had alive. Robert Redford. Okay, that's the actor,
one of the last living movie stars. He passed away

(01:36:29):
and I guess, and he was eighty nine. He died
in sleep. But somehow the news decided there was time
to tell us that he actually had to protect himself
from lusting co stars because he only had eyes for
his wife. Okay, because Robert is putting it on Okay.

(01:36:53):
He often started alongside Hollywood leading ladies like Barbara streisand
in the Way We Were seventy three and Jane Fonda
in nineteen sixty seven with Barefoot in the Park.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
But one of my mom's favorite movies of all time,
Barefoot in the Park, it makes.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Sense that sounds very white, it does, don't it to
sound like what white people do, like, take your shoes off,
we're in the park. And while the Hollywood heart throb
may have had plenty of on screen romances, he only
had eyes for his wife at the time, historian Lola
van Wagoning. Come on, historian, whenever she was dragging in
a lot of wagoning. I don't know who knows. I

(01:37:32):
had to see a full body picture. He shared four
children with Van Wagoning, but two later. But the two
later divorced and he remarried to German artists Sybils Zagars.
But now I guess this, this, this publication has rounded
up a full picture of the heart thrives love life.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
I have some of her arts.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Yeah, yeah, she's like also my husband and then I
have a lot of sex, and he only has eyes
for me. Redford married his.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
First and also my husband was Robert Redford.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Yeah exactly. Redford married his first wife, Lola bean wagon
And in nineteen fifty eight. Yeah, they got pictures of
him too. Let me show you all what they was
looking like back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Okay, this iggressive if she were able to keep him,
because that's pre star Robert Redford. So like he went
through his megastardom you know.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Yeah, apparently they lost their first child at ten weeks old.
It was really hard. We were very young. I had
my first theater job, which didn't pay much. Redvord said
about his son's death, according to the Times, and I
guess this.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Is got that seventy mustache.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
Yeah, this is them as yup man. He was pimping
back then. Damn. That's a nice fit.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
Yeah, like a superstar superstar. Yeah, but at the time
he was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
He really was.

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
You know he was at the disco clubs.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Yeah, yeah, he was. He was the not only was
he obviously an iconic movie star that like, you know,
we have very few we have like Tom Cruise, DiCaprio,
and then I don't know how many others bad Pit.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Yeah, that level.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
But he Denzel, But then Denzel is like more like
Daniel ded Lewis where there's like a more an acting icon.
Although Denzel is a celebrity, like a celebrity also. But
Redford also with the Sundance Film Festival, like he really did.
He really walked the walk of kind of being like
I'm about independent film and promoting film. I don't want

(01:39:43):
to be a celebrity. You're cursed with looking like, you know,
super handsome, superstar. Yeah, but and he launched a lot
of like I think Ava DuVernay was one of the
people who, like he kind of helped nurture the beginning
of their career through the festival. So he was, uh yeah,
he in all facets of the game sort of, he was.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
He was, And I keep seeing people that pointed out like,
uh when his last role was in the MTU and
all that stuff, which was fun. You know, I love
the MTU. But I was like, did nobody watch The
Old Man in the Gun? Like that was a good movie.
I don't think like like I know he was older
or whatever, but like I watched that show, I was like,
this is fucking good. This man can still he still
got it, you know. But uh yeah, so they just

(01:40:29):
I don't know if his wife or his estate just
wanted to let us know that he wasn't messing with
them hose. Okay, he was out here being That makes
me think he was unlike right right now that he's
dead and nobody can refute it, although like I do
wonder because I feel like this is a this is
a shot across the bow of the hose. So like

(01:40:52):
if like I think you only dropped this if you're
one hundred percent confident it was this way, not I
think if you do it quietly, like and may he
rest in peace, and hopefully none of these whole show
up at the funeral.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
You know, Harb was saying, you know, she was like
I was, in fact, like he was a gentleman, but
I was like lost in his eyes.

Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
Yeah, yeah, like it's just because and he's of an age,
but a lot of holes are probably dead and going
by now.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Well that too, but also the one women live longer
than men know me and the one we've seen as
we've seen and what all these women Barbara Walters, Uh,
what's Snoop Dog's best friend, the felon Martha Stewart. Yes, hey,
they telling Yeah, that's why I'm like I was.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
Out here like I take your man bit.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
But they've reached the age where like telling you they
were fucking some of these men is not okay. We've
passed like society has passed the past, the the the
the shame, like we used to have a shame Ville
of like he may he rest in peace. Yes, I
used to fuck him on the side, but why would
his family need to know that at the time like

(01:42:04):
this Now now Barbara Walters is like, oh I was, yeah,
Oh I was fucking yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Some of y'all favours Brother Stewart's really raised the game
for eighty year old. She really has like really like you'll,
I see pictures sometimes and I go, she can get it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Listen, I dislocate that hip.

Speaker 4 (01:42:24):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
You know the this this reminds me like, since we
were talking about Kimmel, there was an old sketch that
The Man Show had when it was Kimmel and Corolla
where when somebody died, when a young man died unexpectedly,
there was a service you could sign up for where
they would run to your home before anybody knew, and

(01:42:46):
they would remove all the porn and clear your steach record.
They replaced four magazines. It's like a bible.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
And yes, it was right. Yeah, I remember that shout
to The Man Show shouted when Adam Carolla was like funny.
I remember those days. He used to be so funny.
He's one of those guys too, where like because I
have to be a truth teller, like when people try
to turn it. He's a hack. He's always been a hack.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
I'm like, no, what he wasn't at the time. He's
fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
It's like it's like the Kanye West of it all.
Its like I always hated him, Like well, I always didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
I always did not.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
I was listening like a motherfucker. I wan to be
honest other white people news uh. Ex Teen Mom star
Janelle Evans claims Lil Wayne flew her out to La
for a hookup.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
I don't follow a teen mom, but like this is
I know I come off as mister like judgmental church guy.
Sometimes I try not to, but these are stories where
I'm like, why are you? Why are you?

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
Why are you telling this?

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Well, I'm gonna tell you why he's telling us. Here's
why she's telling us why because she didn't do it.
She said, I met him in his personal studio for real,
You guys are the first ones I'm telling you. I'm
telling She showed the verified Instagram direct messages, one that
read b mind her reply, I said no more King where?

(01:44:21):
And I said say no more King where? And when
you made my day?

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Not gonna lie. Thanks for the smile. He flew me
out and I met him and things are cool. Did
I hook up with him. No, did he want to? Yes,
but I wanted to go out to dinner and get
to know each other first. She explained that the encounter
pizzle because their intentions didn't match. While she hoped to
build a connection, She said, he wanted to jump right
into it, and she ended up flying back home with

(01:44:45):
the rapper covering her return trip. So that was crazy,
she told yours. So there you go, guys. She didn't
fuck him, and that's news.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
That's like what I would do if I got offered
the Saudi Festival. I would say, I am loudly not
accepting this so that someone else will hire me. Yes,
And then I feel like she's like sending out a
message like now if I know he's persona on grid,
but now if Drake were to uh, now he knows

(01:45:14):
that I am flyable, some other superstar of some kind
will now be like, oh okay.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
I say this all the time for IG models, like
because people always go like, why are these ig models
exposing people in their dms. It's like, because if you
had Lebron James wants to fuck this pussy, you need
to let the world know. The price of the pussy
done went up like, get out of my DMS if
you work in fucking subway, that's stupid, Like you don't

(01:45:43):
even have a chance. I'm letting you know, why, why
would you violate his privacy to take a picture of
uh of of of Paul George sleeping in your bed?
Because people need to know Paul George's in my bed
is never going lower than this. This is it from
now on. If you do you have Paul George money, no,

(01:46:03):
then shut the fuck up. Okay, And it works too
because the next day you look up and it's like, oh, yeah,
well everyone was clowning her for exposing Paul George, but
she's dating Tyler Hero now, and you're like, of course
he's dating Tyler Hero now, this the fuck she do?
Last one, Selena Gomanz got married. I know that is

(01:46:26):
she got married to Benny Blanco from the Bronx.

Speaker 6 (01:46:32):
Dude, take to be my hut for richer for how
tell Death do Us Part?

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
I don't mean to be racist, but I know I'm
there's one Latina actress I'm not supposed to like, and
I don't know if it's Selena Gomez.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
Or no, no, no, no, it's my girl, Gina Rodriguez.
Okay from Jane the Virgin always something.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Yeah, she like she wrapped along love her, she wrapped
along to the fujis and said when when when Lauren
Hill says fronting in words, give me heavy gv's. She
said it at the with the lyrics, and people were like.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
This racist big right?

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
I remembering the story, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
It was her and I was like, is that count
as racism? I didn't know we were counting that as racism.
I thought I thought y'all had been gave up the
if you say it with a rap, it don't count.
But I think they also didn't like it for other
reasons that I don't remember all of them, but uh,
shout out to that listening, wrote in this would be
a great time for you to do that. Did we

(01:47:40):
forget podcasts? During episode on h on Ja L's Faith
and let us remember? Because I think she had some
ship where like they did one of those Hollywood roundtables
and she said something about like some sort of difference
between her and black women or something. I just remember
it was real bad.

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
And the thing is bity blanco sound like somebody was
trying to make.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Up a color, and was it Benny Blanco.

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
Yeah, wouldn't she what to call it?

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
I thought John Leguizamo's.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
Character, Carlo's Way, yeah, Benny Blanco, yeah, Bronx, Yeah, that's
his way character.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
So he's only like thirty seven. I wonder if like
he took that name, like there's a stage name or
something gotta be. But anyway, they got married. They've been
engaged for nine months. He's thirty seven, she's thirty three.

Speaker 6 (01:48:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
They did it at a seventy acre private estate just
north of Santa Barbara in California.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Beautiful, Uh, millionaires now and he's he's no slouch, Like
I gotta when I people, I think they've given up
on making fun because he's one of those guys where
he seems like super nice and super humble. And then
I listened to like his pop music catalog of like

(01:48:51):
songs produced. This dude over the last like thirteen years
has produced a shit ton of hit songs like Big Hit, Payphone,
Maroon five, like Firework by Katie Perry, Like he is
big time, but he's still this kind of like nice
goofy guy.

Speaker 4 (01:49:12):
Yeah, and he's he's a nice rich where you making
money but don't nobody really know who you are. You
kind of this dude who will right past me deliver
me a Papa John pizza. I would tip him and
keep it tricking. I wouldn't know who this man was.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
He said, super talented, and this is once again this
is my you know, she's she can have whoever she
She's a nice looking, super rich, fame, very famous person.
And she probably was just like, yeah, he's talented, he's
got his own money. I like what he does, and
he treats me well, and like, don't what I need.

(01:49:46):
People out there not to get the wrong impression though,
is if Benny Blanca were the Papa John's delivery guy
for Karen, he could not get Selena Gomez. He is
just when you were on when you were in the
same zip code. In terms of worlds, you can be

(01:50:07):
the nice guy who get but Papa John's Bennie Blanco
does not get Selena Gomez. But it's still nice to say, like, hey,
go for go for that Selena Gomez in your tier
if you are a tear.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
I think also, the thing is it's not that thing
where like young starlet Marri's like sixty year old studio
head type thing. Yeah, it's like it's refreshing to be like, yeah,
it's refreshing to be like, oh look at them. They're
they're four years apart. He's like the quiet, moneyed talent

(01:50:44):
and she's the beautiful, you know, vixen talent, and so yeah,
it's like in the same world.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Like they write each other's world, because like being a
big time music producer and being a big time musician
actress is like you run and that you understand, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:50:59):
Yeah, well, I just I think I think the what
I'm saying is the upper envelope of this is like
Mariah Carey's first marriage, where you're like, y'all are in
the same world, but you're like forty years older in
the same world, and that don't seem as it's not
as as fun as right. Yeah, so yeah, she I

(01:51:20):
like the old school filter or whatever they did to
get this picture. Yeah, it's like that like a seventies
seventies right, that's her beautiful picture dress, Eric and then
my life, so I forget the wedding dress, like fucking Barney.

Speaker 4 (01:51:40):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
God damn, Eric Andre, He's so funny to me. I
I don't think I could be around him at a
wedding where he's just being normal and I think I
would become the weirdo. Was like, you're doing a bit
right now He's like, no, I'm having a glass of wine,
like right, but then like you're gonna like poured the
wine down your pants or something or like what what's next?

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
I can't tell who this lady is. She must not
be famous. They didn't put no, come on, come on,
this is white people knew this is why you're here.

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
That looks like Kristen Bell to make.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Okay, cool, okay, thank you, And I don't know who
this white dude is either. Other Yeah, they're not even
mentioning these other people's famous. Yeah they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Only they give US's friend Tim Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
I love. My favorite is when they're when someone is
obviously dating someone but that person is not famous, and
they be like JL Covin spotted with mystery.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
Woman because we don't have no idea who they are.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
In other words to mysteries.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
Yeah, but uh yeah, these are nice looks. I love
this filter though. This thing right here is cool. Whatever
this is that they're doing that that's a real uh
it's her.

Speaker 6 (01:53:04):
Mike Star wedding look like a classic wedding.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
I have no idea. This is a great that's alaats.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
In the building.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
It's pretty good, that's what she is.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
Yeah, she has this dead pant's you don't understand why,
like a young, nice looking woman has the voice of
like a dying elderly pers Well, she got some.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
She got the pictures of a dying elderly verson with
these polovoid filters.

Speaker 4 (01:53:39):
Put on this, they take They're about to take it
up with Yonder anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
I love I love that for her. All right, let's
get to the final segment. Let's do a little bit
of uh, we gotta do some guests the race, guys, Okay,
we've been too woke. We talked about too much positive stuff.
And I'm sure that the Joe Rogan crowd has already
turned this off, So get them back.

Speaker 6 (01:54:04):
It's time to catch the race.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
It's time to catch the race. It's time to catch
the race.

Speaker 6 (01:54:12):
It's time to guess the race.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
That's right, guess the race. Time we go around the globe,
we find different articles. Guess the race of the people evolved.
Today's contestants are, of course, Karen and comedian actor writer
jail covan.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
Future losing political candidate.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
Future future losing to political scandal. Future go see him
get arrested in DC for uh impersonating the president this weekend.
You could be part of history.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
He was popular with Democrats until rumor came out that
he was having an affair with Lauren Bobert.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
Young and defended it in Congress. He was like, come on,
you can't come on, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
Penis partisanship at its finest.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Uh, Penis Man graffiti suspect arrested?

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
What superhero ever?

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
Yes, Penis Man sounds like a villain. Uh, he's a
batman villain? Is uh his you know his alter?

Speaker 4 (01:55:26):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
You know how they always have like their regular name
is always a hint. Like it's like, oh, Larry Scrotem.
Uh the scientists for Scientists for ball, Yes, Richard.

Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
Cox, rich Richard Cox with his side kicked texticles.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Well, this is gonna be even worse, guys. Tempi Pelice
say they have arrested the person they believes responsible for
a number of graffiti that featured the words Penis Man.
Per statement released September twenty six, thirty six year old.
I'm not making this up, guys. This is this is
a real article from Foxtenphoenix dot com. Okay, so I'm

(01:56:11):
not making this up, just a case. It's gonna sound funny.
His name is Tanner Balling g Balling. Gee. Oh no,
Tanner ball In ge ball Tanning makes me think about
the right wing Tucker Carlson. The story investigators say over

(01:56:32):
the past several months, they have received multiple reports of
the phrase penis man spray painting on builders in Tempe.
Many of the in cinents were not captured on video surveillance.
He is avoiding the cameras. It's motherfucker the most elaborate
graffiti artists of all time. Following the detailed investigation, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:56:52):
Just flashed during the moment. I couldn't help myself, y'all.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
He's a grower, not a show right, Okay, that's why
you can't find them. Following a detailed investigation, Dick Detectives uh.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
I am not an.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Adult confirmed confirmed Balling Ghee's involvement in two of the cases.
The police said graffiti is not a harmless act. It
costs property owners money, hurts local businesses, and affects the
look and feel of our neighborhood. Set a police statement.
According to police, he admitted to committing the graffiti. He

(01:57:34):
is accused of two counts of criminal damage and connection
with the incidents that happened near Rural Road and the
Patrie Boulevard in July August twenty twenty five. Guess the
race of mister Tanning. Tanner? I'm sorry Tanner balling? Gee, Karen,
oh white, Karen's going white for ten and oh ten
in balls and people to tend the balls, all right,
and just jail.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
Sorry, it's gotta be white. I mean everything that the
drawing of the pictures the Tanner.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
The chat room says they should hire John Schaft to
investigate white. He was hanging down low after getting arrested. White.
This is also white. Shaking my head, what is a
penis without them balls? White? The correct answer is he
was white. Man, What are you in for?

Speaker 3 (01:58:32):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
Uh man that it looks like a guy Robert Redford
would play in a movie when he gets the upgrade.

Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
Yeah, I just want to know what his lawyer is
gonna be saying in court to defend him.

Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
That got that porn mustache like Penis Man movie.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
He's like.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Freedom of speech. First we canceled, Jimmy Kimmel. Now you're
trying to cancel Penis Man.

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
Right, get it together. This is the line for Joe Rogan.
He's gonna sign that paperwork with the other four hundred
actors now. A massage therapist has been charged after hitting
camera found at Charlotte spa.

Speaker 4 (01:59:16):
Oh shit.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
A massage therapist has been charged of felony secret peeping
after we use a hidden cell phone to record a
client without her knowledge. It was at a Charlotte spa,
according to Mecklenburg County court documents. Court records state that
the incident happened Monday, September twenty second at Silent Moment
Spa on Park Road.

Speaker 4 (01:59:36):
That's not my spa.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
Oh okay, well, I guess it don't matter the client.

Speaker 4 (01:59:40):
I'm saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
The client told Charlotte mcklverg police that she had just
finished her massage and returned to the room to get dressed,
and she noticed a flashing light. She discovered a phone
placed near a backpack and realized it had been recorded.
She air dropped the videos from the phone to her
own device and left the before contacting authorities. That was
so smart, so I would not have had the wherewithal

(02:00:07):
in the moment to be able to like think of that.
But that is so smart because obviously he could have
erased the videos and been like, I don't know what
the fuck you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (02:00:15):
And you're in there by yourself, and they allow you
to dress and undressed by yourself, So obviously he didn't
have any idea she had found it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
Right to see or by it, you know, once she
send the video and leave, like he don't even have
a chance to know that you found it, Like you
gotta leave before he can, you know. The CMPD stated
that the video showed the suspect setting up the phone
to capture the footage of the area where the client
had undressed. One of the videos allegedly showed the woman
partially unclothed. Gerard Crawford, forty, has been identified as the suspect.

(02:00:43):
He was arrested and later admitted to CMPD detectives that
he set up the phone to record the client. It
was a bad decision, was wrong, he told investigators. Crawford
told detectives he had worked at Solace P Moment SPAT
since March twenty twenty four, and had been employed at
several other massage businesses in the area. He claimed his
terminations from those previous jobs were unrelated to any sexual misconduct,

(02:01:06):
though one involved complaints from female clients.

Speaker 4 (02:01:09):
Right, how do we know this? How do we know
how many times you've done this? For you just hat
and got caught because you felt comfortable enough to actually
do this, So I think you've done this before.

Speaker 2 (02:01:18):
He had already been placed on a year long probation
for two different incidents. One was in February, a client
of Massage Envy and Gastonia complaint to the board, saying
he engaged in inappropriate contact during the massage session. The
other was in May, when the board got another complaint
from a client of Crawford's mobile massage business, Mobile Massage Okay,

(02:01:40):
saying he failed to deliver treatment that ensured this client's safety,
comfort and privacy. She declined to comment on the situation.
He's been charged with felony secret peeping using a photogenic
imaging device. His phone was turned over to the Cyber
Crimes Unit for further investigation. He posted ten thousand dollars
secure bot on Tuesday. Tuesday, none of the spots clients

(02:02:01):
wanted to talk on camera. But the situation did make
some of them an easy. One woman told us she
was hesitant to get her massage.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
Queen City News asked the staff of Crawford is still
employed there and if they had any statement to hers
on the clime. They asked our crews to lead the
business and call the police. That's not a good sign.
I think you should probably be able to say no.
But that's just me. I'm probably just a bit a
stickler for that. All Right, Karen, I guess the race

(02:02:28):
of mister Gerard Crawfordford. I'm gonna go, all right, jail
that okay. So you're still thinking I'm gonna go, okay, jail.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say, black. This is a
you know, this is d I d E. I hiring gone,
you know, run a monk. I think you should have
been in jail. And liberal policies, you know, have left
our massage parlors exposed to their criminal blackness. You go
go woke, you go broke, Yeah, go woke, get filmed.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
But but I will say that sorry to do commentary
on this, but like, listening to this, the first thing
I thought was like, and I'm sorry to be creepy
like this. But I'm like, you're already massaging these women
right jail, which which is which is why they always
say like these sexual crimes are about power. It's like
you're already massaging these women. So you just want to
be like, yeah, but I got your nate.

Speaker 2 (02:03:28):
Like I said, like, it's it's it's he escalated, it's
and he had been on a year probation for violations before,
so it sounded like he was even maybe escalating the behavior.
If he was recording, who knows what else he was
going to capture it there. But yeah, let's check the
chat room. How how many white garage you know? Black

(02:03:49):
needs to go back to jail?

Speaker 1 (02:03:50):
Black?

Speaker 2 (02:03:51):
Oh no, slap it, flip it, rub it down, don't
know black.

Speaker 4 (02:03:56):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (02:03:58):
Everybody went black. Everyone got it correct, And that's him there.

Speaker 4 (02:04:10):
Oh you did that, sir?

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
How could you? How could you possibly tell just from
that picture, like he's a that's a massage for peeping
tom motherfucker right there. You can just see it in
his eyes, carrying.

Speaker 1 (02:04:26):
His bias towards the good looking mug shots.

Speaker 2 (02:04:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:04:29):
If that had been the felon back right right, it
would have been like, Oh no, I don't. I mean
I would let him film me? Right?

Speaker 2 (02:04:37):
Maybe we should see I look.

Speaker 1 (02:04:39):
Angry to be arrested, which is the normal face? Felon
Bay and Trump.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
Post look mad. Well, all right, you guys are two
for two. Let's go to the bonus rate, bonus round.

Speaker 4 (02:04:57):
Why how can I be racist about anybody or anything
in my life?

Speaker 1 (02:05:07):
How can I call them niggas? Just call them niggas.

Speaker 6 (02:05:11):
It's time to get go.

Speaker 7 (02:05:14):
Change wearing fried Sities, Monkey by Moon, Big Fast Brothers,
high Jumping, speed chucking, three hundred and sixty degree.

Speaker 2 (02:05:25):
Basketball teacher arrested for using poop spray in school, costs
campus more than fifty thousand dollars in repairs.

Speaker 4 (02:05:33):
Fuck is poop spray.

Speaker 2 (02:05:35):
A teacher assistant has been arrested following a series of
disturbing a series of disturbances at a high school where
a mysterious odor played the campus for weeks. Alexander Lewis,
thirty two, faces charges of disturbing schools and malicious injury
to property after allegedly using the spray designed to mimic

(02:05:57):
the smell of peace feces. Debuty said Lewis purchased the
spray online and used it multiple times between August twenty
fifth and September nineteen, causing significant disruptions. The older reportedly
triggered health issues among students and staff, including headache, nausea,
and dizziness, and resulted in nearly fifty five thousand dollars
in inspection and air conditioning repair calls for the district.

Speaker 4 (02:06:21):
Why did they spread that shit like axe body spray?

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
My son has as has His asthma has been triggered
multiple times because of this, and I had to take
them to the doctor three times. Set a parent, I
would be mad too. In August, the district assured parents
via email that inspections of the school's gas lines, propaying
systems and air quality revealed no dangers. However, officials now

(02:06:45):
believe the older was intentionally caused by Lewis. He appeared
in court where judge said his bond at just over
nine thousand dollars. The malicious injury to personal property charge
would be addressed in General Sessions Court nineteenth and this
Bob would said that eight thousand dollars. The charge of
interfering with schools would be heard in Florence Magistrates Court

(02:07:07):
October fifteenth with a bond of one ninety dollars. Authorities
indicate the additional charges aren't possible. Yeah, he's not out
of the shit yet. Karen. All right, Karen, I guess
the race of mister Alexander lewis white. Karen's going white jail.

Speaker 1 (02:07:36):
I'm gonna stay black.

Speaker 2 (02:07:37):
All right, Let's check the chat room, see what they believe.
Guess the race need his shitty ass whooped?

Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
White?

Speaker 2 (02:07:46):
White? Wanna be content creator? I bet content creator? What
if he is? I want to be content creator, but
this had nothing to do with it, like he was
just like and I also do want to be a
content creator, but I just like doing this white. Oh
crap white. The correct answer is.

Speaker 3 (02:08:04):
And one of you will win.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
On this answer because you did go different races, and
one of you is right. The person who was right,
it's Karen. You gotta Karen. He was white, which means
for the first time, I have to play the booze today.
I have to boo jail. The jinks got them.

Speaker 1 (02:08:31):
Well, like American voters, I would rather lose than tie.

Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
Jael's like in my reality, he is black? How about that?

Speaker 4 (02:08:42):
Because I thought about it, we might start a lot
of ship. But we don't play with shit.

Speaker 2 (02:08:47):
Okay, I couldn't help star ship won't be nothing. Nope,
all right, last story of course. Sword ratchetness, a man

(02:09:19):
who barricaded himself after allegedly attacking the neighbor with a
sword has been arrested after a police stand off. The
whole shit not a standoff, yep. A man who attacked
his neighbor with a sword and then barricaded himself inside
of his home across the street was arrested after hours
long standoff with the police. The myriad A Police Department
stated that dispatch received a call regarding an assault with

(02:09:41):
a deadly weapon at eleven eight am Thursday at the
Madison Park condominiums. Arriving first responders found a man with
a laceration wounds to his face and hand that were
described as non life threatening, just life altering right.

Speaker 4 (02:09:56):
The vicife shifting.

Speaker 2 (02:09:58):
The victim reported an altercation with his neighbor, Michael Keene,
who lives directly across from him. During the altercation, Keen
allegedly swung a sword of his neighbor, striking him across
the face in the hand. Afterwards, the victim ran to
his home to seek help, and Keen barricade himself a
side of his home, blocking off the doors and windows.
A perimeter was established as officers began the escalation attempts. However,

(02:10:19):
they were unsuccessful due to the totality of circumstances. Uh
so then they called him the swat team. They did
hours of negotiations which did not work, and eventually a
plan was made to breach the apartment and they did
that and it took the guy into custody. They charged
with multiple felonies, including as salt with a daily weapon
and Mayhem not the Mayhem.

Speaker 1 (02:10:41):
Yeah you never want to Mayhem is a good charge
because it sounds like it could be any number of things,
Like you could have like Mayhem where it's like I
threw a bottle. But I also feel like mayhem could
be like I burned a town down.

Speaker 2 (02:10:53):
Right right, like Wesley Snipes in Demolition Man. Is Mayhem
West They the.

Speaker 4 (02:10:59):
Minute was Mayhem?

Speaker 2 (02:11:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, Yeah. It's arranged from Dennis the
Minutes to Simon forget his last name in Demolition Man,
but yeah. No injuries to the suspect or officers were reported.
The man who was attacked was taken to the hospital
for his wounds to receive stitches, but was released the
same day. They they did a search one for the

(02:11:22):
apartment they found a sword, So open and shutcase jail.
Thank you for being here man, It's great to have
you tell the people how to support your where to
find your work, how to come out and see your comedy.

Speaker 1 (02:11:38):
Yeah, thank you. Obviously, jlcomedy dot com has links to everything,
all the all the shows I mentioned, DC, Philly, Toronto, Charlotte, uh,
and don't don't wait. You know, if you know your ticket,
I want to go. Just get those tickets because the
more tickets in advance, the more venue promotes and feels
like safe with the show. You know. I got my

(02:12:01):
Patreon for three bucks. A lot of good stuff going
up there, and obviously my two podcasts every week Rain
on your Parade and making Podcasts great again. Check one
or both of those out. Yeah, I guess that's it
for now. I'm close to one hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube.
I'm at ninety nine point two k so eight hundred listeners.

(02:12:22):
If you're not subscribed, go subscribe.

Speaker 4 (02:12:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:12:24):
I think they send me a thing. I think when
I get one hundred, OK, they like send you something.

Speaker 2 (02:12:29):
And you get a lot of stuff over there, Like
he's always constantly putting up stuff, is doing Trump impressions
and giving us the lowdown, and somebody's even give us
like regular just this my point of view on this thing,
as well as obviously stand up and all that stuff.
So go subscribe. I'm subscribed me too.

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
You know it's funny right now. My Laura is at
a wedding in Canada this weekend. And I'm not trying
to alarm anybody, but she has called me. I joke
with her. She has made like five phone calls to
me in the last like couple of years. They're always bad.
It was like Cookie got run over by a car.

Speaker 2 (02:13:05):
Oh no the mover.

Speaker 1 (02:13:07):
The mover stole one hundred bucks from me. Oh like,
it's boys, It's like and then I lost my computer
on the plane. Those are the last three phone calls
I've gotten her in like five years.

Speaker 2 (02:13:18):
And she's calling now.

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
She just called.

Speaker 2 (02:13:21):
Now I'm like, oh god, all right, let's get you
off of here, let's get you let's get just wrapped up.

Speaker 4 (02:13:27):
Listen, No, we don't want nobody to being stoped at
no Barder.

Speaker 2 (02:13:30):
Like, listen, your legal your legal clients may or may
not have a home, but you'll always have a home
on this podcast will until next time.

Speaker 4 (02:13:41):
I love you, I love you too.

Speaker 6 (02:13:42):
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