3173: Digital Madness

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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all right, Karen, any banter for today?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's yes?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Do you have any? Do you have any?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Do you have any? Banter? Banter answered banter? Do you
have any?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Talk to me?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Do you have any? All right?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I just have one in this short sweet I told
y'all that I went to the farmer's market. I had
got some apple cider. Yeah, and it is absolutely delicious.
And not only is it good, I was reading online
like things you can kind of mix in with it,
and one of the things was vodka. So I love

(02:39):
I love sweet tea vodka. So I put my apple
cider with some sweet tea vodka and it was absolutely delicious.
So that's what I'm drinking on.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
You sound like you drink it? On it?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I am good?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Is it? Do you warm it? In the chat asked
if you warmed.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
It, you probably can't warm it. Yeah, I didn't want
my cold.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, I like you cold.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You probably can't warm you know, me warming up and
and kind of spike it like that too, and put
some cinnamon sticks in it. They're probably absolutely outstanding. But
but did I did it cold this time? I probably
might warm it up next time. But yeah, this is
absolutely delicious. I didn't know how it was gonna taste
the Sweet Tea vodka. I normally take my Sweet Tea vodka,
and I crossed it with apple juice, with like regular

(03:22):
apple juice, and I also cross with lemonade.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Okay, that's when.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's one of my personal favorite as as a shout
out to miss Smart, I got that Negro palette. I
like it sweet.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
If your team's not over five hundred in the NFL
approaching November, what are you even doing? I can't even imagine.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Could be me, me me not being five imagine over
five hundred.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Imagine the Panther's not being five hundred right now? Can
you imagine not being.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Over five hundred?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Okay, they say j E T S. I say G
E T S. Your ass about it here? Because y'all
done took another seven. I know the feeling. We've been
there before.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yes, we have child, I think we all, I think
we you We went like one game the whole season,
so child, I feel you, But right now I'm in
the room, so I'm gonna enjoy the moment.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, it's been nice. Now Rice Young ankle fucked up,
and the dog gonna be the quarterback next week, so
we might be back to five hundred. But you know what,
I'm gonna enjoy that. That's next week's problem.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, that's next week. This week's problem.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's not a problem.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
This week. We won the game and I and I
actually stayed up because most of the time going to
sleep and mincing the game because I'm like, they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Lose just the Uh. This is honestly the most optimistic
it gets for around here, because as Panthers are Hornets
fans horned season hasn't started, so there's no catastrophe to
be worried about yet and Panthers are above expectations. Yeah,
so we love to see it. And if you guys
don't get to see it, but shout out to the Panthers.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yes, it has actually been fun to watch them and
see the defense defense and and like that, like, let's go.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't know how they go win every week. It
makes no sense. Some days it's a thirty zero blowout.
Some days it's a last se could come back, and
of course some days it's lost, but we don't talk
about those days. The other thing I was gonna mention is, uh,
sometimes the best part of my walk, Like I took
a longer walk today for me, So it was over

(05:36):
an hour. Normally I do like around an hour a
little under an hour. But it's been cooler lately.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, last we did, I didn't feel as hot, like,
like it was a lot more relaxed.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I walked over there by the Farmers Market, which is
closed on Mondays. Okay, if it would have been open,
I might have went over there and grabbed apple or something.
I don't know. But sometimes the best my walk is
actually just sitting down and halfway through. Like sometimes I'll
sit out there ten twenty minutes sometimes and just be outside,

(06:09):
you know it's a nice day like this, you know,
people walking by and the area. I went back to
that park, Pearl Park, Pearl Street Park, which apparently is
like it was like a black park, a historical siting.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Didn't you know it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I didn't even know it. Yeah, Like they had pictures
and explanations up about black history around that park and
there's a statue there's black Man on the way up
there that I had never a historical figure in Charlotte.
I didn't know anything about. So, you know, I'm learning
more about my city. But yeah, sometimes just sitting out
there being in nature. It's and not even nature, right,

(06:43):
it's just outside, just sitting outside, but.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
It is kind of in nature because when you're in
your home, you're not in nature.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, just sitting outside. And you know, and I've come
a long way with that because I feel like I
used to just.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Like who walks outside?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, also I used to sit outside and I'm like
it's above on, you know, oh God, that butterfly's gonna
kill me. And now just sit out there and chill
and just get my thoughts together and just be out there.
I don't really have much going on or like there's
nothing now I'm planning to do or thinking about. It's
really sometimes it be like that, not you know, I

(07:20):
recommended to everybody if you get a chance, you know,
you don't even have to do the exercise or nothing,
just go sit outside and chill and walk.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Or they've done studies on that and they was telling
people people who actually go outside and just sit. They
were saying, just being outside makes you feel better. It's
something about it, and particularly if you get into the
sun and things like that, just makes you feel better.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, And then the other thing. I'm almost done with
my book, Digital Madness. I'm sure I'll be moving on
to another book soon, but it's getting so I thought
when I got this book, I was gonna get more
data driven stuff about just the Internet, social media and

(08:04):
how it interacts and trends with the mental health of
people throughout the world and stuff. And it was that
for the beginning, and then it kind of switched into
just like some stuff about you know, Silicon Valley and
technocrats and all this stuff. And now the last probably
fourth of this book has really taken a turn because

(08:28):
it's about the guy's kind of personal story and then
what he thinks the solutions are for a world that
is basically being driven crazy by social media. And it
starts it's starting to get into that like spiritual philosophical stuff,
which is not that I'm against it, but I don't
take to it as easy as just here's the data. Yes,

(08:51):
you know, here's some things. Because I'm willing to consider
almost anything that's data driven. Like I'm not saying I'm
going to agree with it, but you know, I'll take
in the argument, and I'm and I'm taking in the
arguments about the philosophy. But the end it starts talking
about how he odeed and it was in a coma
four week and when he came out he wanted to
find like purpose for his life.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
And Okay, so you're basically getting away from I'm not
sading away from the foundation of the book, but yeah,
you are getting away from the foundation.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
You know, I don't do I don't do great with
anecdotal spiritual stuff. I'm not saying it's bad, but like,
if you were trying to convince me of an argument,
one of the worst ways to try to convince me
is with some like nebulous shit, because I'm like, that's you.
I don't like, I don't know that. You know, like

(09:42):
you're quoting all these philosophers and all that stuff, and
that's cool, but that their philosophy doesn't necessarily mean that
I buy their arguments over anything else that I'm seeing
right now. And it's not that those people are dumb
or wrong, it's just, you know, that's what Socrates had
thoughts Socrates, he's never lived in a world with a plane,
Like I don't write, like, I don't know what was

(10:04):
he a thought today? I don't know, you know, So
the end is kind of losing me just because it's
turning into so many like nebulous concepts. Although I do, uh,
because you I've read so much of the book. I'm
not I'm giving, I'm taking, I'm considering the argument. So
and I agree with a lot of it, Like it's
not like, oh, this is some bullshit. It's like I

(10:27):
agree with that, but I don't know that it proves
a thing.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, yeah, because like you said, those things they happened,
their facts, but they're not like statistical a this this, and.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
You're plucking this and now the book is kind of
like plucking things from life to trying to adjust to
his thoughts. But I'm not sure that those things prove it. So,
for example, one of the things he talks about is
how we've done society maybe have done too much to
get rid of adversity, and adversity is a good thing,

(11:01):
but we kind of lately and I agree with him
that I feel like, especially social media wise, we had
gone a little to a lot of people, not everyone,
but a lot of people are gone too far with
we're trying to solve for the idea of like people
experiencing trauma. Stuff, were going to make sure people don't.
But then we also went to this area where it's like,

(11:24):
you should not ever have to persevere anything. You should
never and if you don't learn to persevere, you don't
learn you can persevere. Agreed, if you don't learn you
can overcome challenges because you're not being challenged, then you
don't like there's a detriment to not learning those things.
But then it's like, you know, somebody did a study
and they did cadets at West Point, and some of

(11:46):
them dropped out because you know, they didn't do well
on this test that said could you handle adversity? And
the ones that stay did well on the test. And
I'm like, I don't know that this is so much
about the digital madness anymore, or this is more like
your prescription for the world. And I don't know how
feasible this prescription is gonna be. It would take a

(12:07):
supreme societal change. But part of me, Y' also feels
like this is what happens because I believe he's a
white dude. I think this is kind of what happens
with a certain type of mentality. I'm gonna describe it
as white. I don't think it's not racial, but I'm
call it a white mentality. But it's you can't have

(12:29):
a problem and not try to solve.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
It m versus saying it is.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, Like I would have been fine if you wrap
this shit up like two chapters two chapters ago and
been like, hey man, we're cooked, Like we ain't getting
out of this one. I don't know what to tell y'all.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't really got no answers, but it would take.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
A seismic shift in our value system. And as I
have illustrated in the first two hundred and thirty pages,
it don't seem like we trending towards uh, that seismic
shift that will switch things back. And I wonder that's
like editors putting pressure on you, like no, you can't
endure with.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
A sad nothing And isn't it I won't say it's
a ton of hozy coats. How a lot of people
can plain about his stuff because they'll be like, it
ain't your almost like their fucking fairy tale like, ain't
you gonna make give us a happy end? It ain't
you're gonna make us feel good. He's like, no, bitch,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, Like you want me to look at this weather
report and be like, or maybe it won't rain right,
It's like, well, according to this all the data that
that I have that show predicts the past, shows from
the past and predicts the future, it always rains. Yeah,
but it could not rain right. Well, you're right at
ending where you say maybe it won't rain. You know,
it's like climate change. Everyone wants people to talk about

(13:39):
climate change and then be like, but if human beings
all tomorrow stop burning carbon, It's like, you know they're
not so, but they won't, So why are you even
making them put that in the report? You know that
that's not true because it keeps giving people this illusion
of well, we'll put it off to tomorrow. We'll just
stop burning carbon tomorrow. It's like, no, we should have
been stopped twenty years ago. Done so anyway. But I'm

(14:03):
still gonna finish the book. I'm still enjoying the book,
and I still think it's overall good, and there's a
lot of stuff in there that you know, I've thought about,
uh that that has made me think about and illuminated
and stuff. So I still enjoy it. But man, that
that this ending is it's a slog compared to the beginning,

(14:23):
because I'm like, this is just how you feel about.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Shit, yeah, which is very different than what you were
giving me.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
A like you had data for other stuff, even stuff
I didn't necessarily know if I agree with you went
and found the data to be like it could be this,
and I'm like, well, that's okay. This ship is just
like and then I realized that the ancient Greeks had
this philosophy about this, and we need artists and warriors
and thinkers in this. I'm like, hmm, all right, I

(14:51):
don't think.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Now we're getting away from the statistics.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
But anyway, still still a good book and I'm gonna
finish it soon and I'm just happy to be finishing
books again.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
No problem. You might not answer this question, But what
is it that that that really grab your attention like
the first part of the book, like like like oh okay,
I mean it's stuff we talk about here all the time, man,
like tech oligarchs and how they've cozied up to politicians

(15:23):
and how it's impossible to really rain them in In many.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Cases it would take like a political will power that
our politicians don't seem to possess, uh, and the like
how much of their egos are built into it, like
obviously Eli Musk, Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, like a lot of

(15:49):
that stuff, but also how much power they've already accumulated
and how many things already run on them. And they're
extremely competitive and antagonistic approach to business. You know, it's
it's Facebook not being able to compete with Instagram so
they buy instagramp and being make it suck. You know,

(16:11):
it's a lot of companies, yeah, finding out you know,
how they have the ability to like switch elections and
there's UH to change elections and influence them. And there's
people that worked there that were whistleblowers and people that
work there that just got the whistle blown on them
where there's quotes of them saying that as much like
we can do this, we have done this. You know.

(16:33):
There's obviously things about mental health and and he cites
studies and phenomena like uh, suicidal ideation and and things
that where we think the internet could be helping where
it's turning out it could be harmful, Like like there's
like there was a thing where people had tourets and

(16:57):
they became like Touret's influencers. But then science like psychologists
and people that studied that were like, obviously you can't
diagnose or not diagnose somebody over the internet, but they
were able to. They were getting people who are having
like copycat turets, and they couldn't figure out why. It's
like people were just getting this out of know are

(17:18):
kids like young kids. It's like all these kids just
are getting tourets like they like the terrests is not
a uh, contagious disease. It's not that's not That's not
what this is. It's a condition. And it turned out
most of these kids were watching these influencers and once
they started like analyzing the numbers where they could be like, okay,

(17:41):
so this this this many kids came in with this
out sporadic turets and these kids all follow this Tourets influencer,
and even at Touret's influencer, they would look at them
and be like, oh, as they're blowing up more and more,
to Rets outburst are happy because you need the content

(18:01):
and your being encouraged. Maybe it's sub conscious, maybe it's conscious.
More than likely, I say subconscious, because this algorithm is encouraging.
Put the phone in your face, record. You can't record
and not be like nobody was tuning in for you
to just talk normal stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I wouldn't even have thought of. And so now you
have these parents taking their kids to the hospital or
a doctor and stuff going a what's wrong with my child?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Right?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Even and like I said, some stuff, it's challenging, but
I like reading challenging books. It's like, conflict is not abuse.
It was a very challenging read the first time I
read it, and then I was like, no, that book
was right, and I was I was being defensive about shit,
and it was really Now that I go back, I'm
like that she was on point that older white lady

(18:48):
has been around, she's experiencing things. Let me not disregard
her logic just because the people around me are so
disregarding of anything that you know, it goes again, it's
whatever there they want to want to be true.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah. And sometimes whenever you hear things, or read things,
or consume things that may actually be beneficial enlightened you.
Sometimes you just might not be ready or whatever the
case may be. And then then, like you said, you
come to it at later time you'll be like okay,
and it kind of hits a little differently. And so
I think everybody kind of, you know, goes through that.

(19:24):
And a lot of times when you're in the middle
of something, or you're going through something, or you not
trying funny the reality sometimes you don't want to change,
so you don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well, I just I mean, I'm not I'm okay being challenged. Yeah,
and that was something that you know, at the time,
the value system around me was like all challenges are threats.
When you have to get rid of any challenges around you,
everything should always be one hundred percent supportive of you

(19:57):
all the time. It's you know, I was talking to
my mom to day and it was like we were
talking about, you know, this AI stuff, and I was like, yeah,
it's kind of like I know, people who talk to
their AI talk to AI, not their AI. It's just AI.
It's chat GPT or something. It's got your information, but

(20:18):
they talk to it like a friend. You know. JJ
Reddick does this thing. We talked to it an hour
and a half every day. People doing that, And the
problem is, I don't believe it can truly challenge you
like a friend. You know, now, a friend is a human.
And yes, there are some yes people out there that
will just tell you yes, yes, no matter what you do,
but we all know that that's not really friendship. But

(20:39):
a friend hears you and they take you in. You know,
it's not your therapist, it's not. It's it's not really designed.
It's designed to just persuade you or to sage your
fears or whatever that word is. Anyway, my point being

(21:00):
a lot of social media and life has turned into
that and it leaves people and he was breaking it
down from like a scientific standpoint, but it leads people
with this feeling of boredom constantly because you're not really
meeting your needs and it's just becoming a salt lick

(21:21):
where you just open the phone and you're licking the
salt and it's making you more thirsty, and you're licking
the salt to taste something and you're licking the next thing.
You know, you're just licking salt all day, right, And
so we're looking for something to fulfill us and that's
why this last fourth of the book, I mean it's

(21:41):
very Philly, you know, it's very touching Philly because it's
like I'm talking about what you can do to fulfill yourself.
He's a therapist now licensed therapists and like counselor for
people that have addiction and stuff. And even he's like,
therapy is not gonna be the answer. And he's like
everyone keeps saying therapy, but therapy is turning into and

(22:02):
I've said this on the show, but it's turning into
a paid friend. When people go on Twitter and tell
you that therapist said and it's some yes girl shit,
it's kind of like, ooh, I don't know that. That's
I don't know your like you putting me in your business.
I don't want to be, but I don't know that
that's the goal of therapy. He's like a therapists goal

(22:23):
should be for you not to keep going all the
goddamn time, Like, unless you have some acute mental health issues.
The goal is not for us to be buddies. The
goal is to get you to a place where you're
self sufficient and you can handle the controversies and adversity
of life, and you can move on and step firmly
and know that life is going to challenge you, but
you're gonna be okay, You're gonna make it. The goal
is not for you to come here every week and

(22:44):
cry and wine and be and for me to be like,
you know, the shoulder you cry on. I'm trying to
build you up into something. And so he's like, it's
hard because therapists are not incentivized to do that. How
do they make money. They don't make money by healing
you and then you don't come back or you know,
make building you up enough that you stop. They make
money by you coming back, and so you know. So

(23:05):
he was like, group therapy or group like work to him,
is better, but what does group work really mean? He's
like friends, people you can talk to in person, people
you can depend on. He's like, I've seen more things
solved by people make building a group of real friends

(23:27):
than I have with me talking to them every week
in my office. Because he's like, you can go to
your friends and share things and get solutions to thing
or just vent or whatever, and they're gonna give you
real feedback and you're gonna make real connection. And there's
something in us that actually needs that. It's not just transactional.
You can't get it from a dopamine here, you can't
get it from a retweet or like, you actually gonna

(23:49):
need some people that exist more than virtually for you
in some way, even if it's phone calls or whatever.
But they're not a machine and they're not someone that
just lives in an app. They're an actual human being
that you think about and know in the three dimensional way.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
I mean, it's those things are very valid, and they
tied to the beginning of the book. So that's why
I said, I'm not saying I'm gonna finish the book,
and I'm not saying the end is bad. I'm saying,
like it's more nebulous than the beginning.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
It kind of veers off and to biggyback on what
you were saying. Something that I've just kind of just
learned over life is and also because I'm an extrot too,
but just sitting and like talking to people that I'm
like really really close to, and everybody needs a place

(24:41):
where they can be bare, and I've realized a lot
of people that don't have that, they don't have a
place where they can be bare. And be safe for
a lot of people. And the reason why I'm saying
that is because nowadays everything is recorded, everything's online. Everybody
got a camera, everybody's watching, everybody's looking at everybody's recording.
You have to watch what you say, watch what you do,

(25:02):
watch how you act, watch how you behave You have
to say the right words. And a lot of this
shit is literally driving people fucking insane. They don't have
a place, a space where or a friend, sometimes a
real live not on Internet, like a real live I
can fucking talk to you friend that you can sit
down and be like, hey, girl, blah blah blah blah

(25:23):
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and that person
listening go okay, girl, but you was wrong, and you
know you're wrong, and you go okay, And then y'all
can kind of talk and hash through it all. They
can say, well, have you looked at it this way?
Have you looked at it that way? Like you say,
AI doesn't have real life experience. A I ain't been
through shit. A I ain't cried. I am been sad
and i'd be depressed, and I ain't been angry. It

(25:46):
has not gone through the range of emotions. AI doesn't age,
it doesn't mature.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
AI is just one example, though, Like even your like
transactional nature of like say a tick to where I'm
on screen talking and then people are listening to me
and they reply and it's all just content. Even that.
You know, there's people that swear they think that stuff
is making them better and it's not. I don't think.

(26:13):
I think it's all making us worse, you know, and
and the and the thing. You know, I'm not trying
to be shady, but this this is y'all. People that
listen to show no. But it's like when I talked
about TikTok and then suddenly got letters defending TikTok, and
I was like, and that's the fucking point, right.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
We talked about all the sights, but yeah, that one.
That one.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
When I talk about Facebook, nobody wants to write in
but Twitter. But now I'm talking about your drug of choice.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
It's like if I get up here and I say
crack is bad, everybody's like, well, I don't do crack.
But if I get up here and I'll say, like, well,
you know, alcohol can be bad for you too, It's
like whoa, whoa, What the fuck you so I can't
have a drink? Hey, I'm not telling you what to do.
I'm telling you this shit is so insidious it tentacles
itself into our brains because it's getting to our core,

(27:03):
like our id. It's getting it's not it's not just
touching on like the overt shit is subconscious shit too.
And I'm not holding myself above people. I'm saying it's impossible,
literally to avoid it.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yes, me too, I am somebody that's in the trap
of something.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yes, yes. I try to point out those things, how
algorithms dictate certain things, and how they've gotten so specific
from the different like basically experiences they've been running on
our brain. It's gotten so specific that my algorithm is
catered solely to me in a way that makes my
experience on the internet different from every other person's experience.

(27:42):
We can't really connect and bond over things all the
time because when you bring something up to somebody, we're
no longer living in a world where you have four
TV channels and everybody had them. We're living in a
world where there's as many TV channels as our people.
And so when I tune in I'm you know, I'm
watching stuff and I have to question what I'm watching.

(28:02):
You know, I think all of us should be questioning
these things. I don't think any of us should take
it at face value. When you log onto something and
the first thing you see and go, that's what everybody's seeing,
and that's what everybody's talking about. I think you should go.
I wonder. I'm not telling you it's not real, but
you should go. I wonder, like, is this uh, is
this story the biggest thing that's happening or is this

(28:24):
the thing that they know? I'll stop scrolling on.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
True and there is a difference between the two. But
now the lines are so blurred and people think that
their reality online is the only reality, which is not
healthy because you know, you have some people that's so fun,
a rabbit hole on left and right. It's almost like
the other group don't exist, but it does.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, like this quote, like I always say quotes from
my reading on Kendle, and this is one of the
early quotes. It's only on page five. Indeed, research shows
that empty, sedentary, addicting, isolating, and self loathing lifestyle created
by big tech drives depression and hopeless hopelessness. Yet the
more depressed and empty we feel, the more we're driven

(29:06):
to escape those feelings with more of the digital drug
that's driving the problem. To begin with a classic addiction
catch twenty two, around and a round we go, it's
big tech pockets to change every time we take a
spend around our digital escapism. Like I think, like I said, man,
I've probably highlighted so many of these things and read
so many of this, so much of the stuff because

(29:27):
I find it to be very true and affirming, and
like I said, a lot of it is where like
he'll he'll have back I'm not reading the whole book, y'all,
but he'll have backup to be like, and this study
did this or this. I talked to this expert about
this and whatnot. And yeah, I really am. I really

(29:48):
think it's a good book. And but yeah, it kind
of it's not what I thought it would be about. Specifically.
It starts off about social media and mental health, and
then it kind of turns into like who's running social media,
which has a lot to do with why it's fucked up,

(30:08):
and then it kind of turns into like what would
the solutions be to try to fix this? And that's
where I'm at right now. I'm enjoying this book a lot.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I thought I would just ask, because you know, I
was like, well, let me just ask, since you were
just talking about it in general.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah. No, no, I don't mind. Like I said, I
just didn't want to get I don't. I am very fascinated.
I don't know if the artists want to hear me
talk about this for two hours and read every quote,
because I could read every fucking quote because I think
it's just that goddamn good of a topic. And I
will be reading more books about this because I really

(30:46):
want to see more than just my feelings on something,
more than my intuition. I like when people kind of
prove things, or at least and that's another problem with
the Internet and social media. It's so new ish that
some like even his solutions. I think part of the
reason that it's losing me a little bit is that

(31:08):
the solutions haven't been proven to work yet because we
haven't really had a chance to try him yet, right.
You know, like one of the things he talked about
near the end for Solutions was as an addiction counselor.
He was like, you know, people go to rehab, people
go to addiction counseling, and like the art, the findings

(31:29):
are somewhere between five percent at the lowest and twenty
percent at the highest. Are people that will take the
counseling or take leave rehab and not do drugs for
a year a year, not the rest of their life.
A year, Okay, So that's not a high rate of success. Now,
obviously it's addiction counseling and rehab. You don't get in

(31:52):
there unless you have some serious problems. But my point
is the therapy alone isn't breaking these people.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
No, it need to be.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So he's when he's talking about the idea of groups
and friends and finding a purpose. He cites this one
story about this guy who was a former priest who
was dealing with like alcohol addiction. For like groups, he
was like helping out this group of men, and so
a lot of them were homeless all that stuff. So

(32:24):
he instead of just them doing like just group therapy,
he realized that they needed like a purpose. So he
set out a goal for them to build a ship,
and they were gonna build the ship and then sell
around the world on it. And he ended up dying
at like fifty one or something. But for that, I

(32:46):
think it took him twenty years maybe to build the
ship Wow. And this is reason like two thousand and
one they started in twenty twenty one they built the
ship WOW. And I don't remember the exact numbers, but
it was something like zero people relapsed because they were
all getting up every day to go fucking find a
way to build this ship. And they went from zero mini.

(33:09):
These weren't sailors, they had no expertise. Everything was we
got to find a way to learn to do that.
And they didn't have money, so they had to go
and like barter to get some supplies. They had to
reach out to different like manufacturers to be like, hey,
we need metal to help build a whole of the ship,
and there were you know, eventually somebody's like, yeah, we

(33:30):
can give you some of that, and so he was like,
you know, purpose and connection with real people helped break
that addiction. Now we're not talking about drugs in the
sense of alcohol, but the Internet, social media, these apps,
they're type of drugs. And so how do you get

(33:51):
how do you break yourself of like a YouTube hold
a TikTok addiction? And because we know that if you
stay on those apps long enough, you will spiral out.
It just is what it is. It's not and it's
not your fault. You're not weak.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
It's that they are.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
They know our brains because they have intimate details of
every from our eyes to and how they dilate and
when our fingers stops scrolling. Like, they have so many
details on our brain. You can't beat it by yourself.
But and I but but as a group, you basically
kind of substitute out that interaction for people. You substitute

(34:28):
out the lack of purpose for purpose And so a
lot of this last man, if I'm talking about it now,
I'm kind of turning around on this last part of
the book. I'm singing this vision now. I'm glad you
asked me these questions. So a lot of the last
part of the book is like how you're gonna find
your purpose? What are you?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
What are you?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
He has these three different archetypes like the warrior, the
the philosopher, and the artists, And not that you have
to be one, but he's like, how do you find
your purpose on the earth in your life? Of what
you're gonna do with that stuff? Like how are you

(35:07):
gonna make yourself more of a warrior. And it doesn't
mean physically fighting people, but mentally whatever it is. Uh,
things that make you persevere, things that make you be
able to go through stressful times and come out on
the other side. How are you gonna make yourself more
of that every day? How you're gonna work on that?
You have to know how you're gonna make yourself more thoughtful? Yeah,

(35:27):
you know philosophers. It doesn't mean you have to accept
their philosophy is the But how what do you think about?
What do you muse on art? Artistry? What are you creating?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
What?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Like? Creating something is the opposite of consuming a right,
So you sit there all day and you consume content,
but what are you putting out into this earth? You know?
It's why I hate AI because people I know people, man,
I know, we even have a listen. I'm sorry, don't
get offended, but I know people that are like, I'm
gonna replace creativity with AI. AI is my new creativity,
And I'm like, no, I don't think it will be

(36:02):
a I goes and steals ship that people have already done. Yeah,
but just also like there's a value to learning to draw.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yes, it is there's a.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Value to learning to write and not just telling it
to here's my idea, you write it. You know, there's
a value to that. And it's tough, right. It's me
on the medicine ball doing that fucking plant that sucked,
and I tell I go to my trainer, like, am
I doing it right? She's like yeah. I was like, okay,
is this like a different form. She's like, no, You're

(36:33):
doing it exactly right. You just need to hold it
for a minute. And I'm like, okay, She's like, yeah,
it's just tough. It's just gonna be tough. You might
not be able to do it four minute right away.
You may have to put one knee down and then
bring the other knee up, and but the goal, the
goal is to do it a minute, and you will
be able to do it for a full minute at
some point. But you got to start where you can

(36:55):
to get to where you can. And a lot of
this stuff with artificial diligence, with social media, with the internet,
is skipping all these steps that make it that you yourself.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, and also we also live in the world of perfection,
and nobody's gonna be perfect at things. You know, and
say when you're go on line and people cooking and
doing all this. Like you said, it's artistry stuff. Everybody
thinks I gotta be perfect. And also the thing is
it's very hard to get people to understand hobbies and everything.

(37:27):
Ain't got to be a hustled Sometimes you just bad
at the shit, but it's something that you love and enjoy.
I haven't done this in a very long time, but
I remember when I was in college, I used to
sew and that before I got a sewing machine, I
used to hand so like so by hand. And the
thing that I really loved about it for the first

(37:49):
time ever because I really didn't really get into creativity
stuff like that, but for the first time ever, I
realized that I could take something with my own hands
and created. It wasn't the best thing ever, but it
was something that I did and accomplish. And I also
loved the fact that it was a clean slate with

(38:10):
no boundaries, which means that I could literally do whatever
I wanted to do. How we have on my mind
went where I flowed, and it's for me at that
period of time, it was a freedom to that and
I would spend hours when I was in college just
sewing and sewing and stitching and all that stuff. And

(38:30):
I realized, like you saying, it wasn't nothing, I was
trying to get coins off of it wasn't nothing. I
was trying to float and show everybody it wouldn't hustle.
I was like, this is something I just enjoyed to do,
just for the flat enjoyment of it, and a lot
of people the time people would be spent doing those things,
they spend that.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Time on and it's an escape in a way, but
it's also a productive escape, yes, and it's not an
escape into addiction, which is kind of what a lot
of our social media has would come about addiction. It's
like I'm escaping to addiction to so I can not
think about my life. I'll read one last part. It's
a little bit long, but it kind of refers it

(39:09):
as it's about this study that this Canadian professor did
on these rats. Canadian professor and researcher, doctor Bruce Alexander
proved in the nineteen seventies via his legendary rat park experiments,
that is really an unbearable reality or environment that drives addiction,
not necessarily the addictive substance in those early skinner cage

(39:29):
experiments of the nineteen fifties, researchers assumed that they had
proved the power of an addicting drug that it was
so tempting and addicting the foolish rat would choose a
drug over food and overdose rather quickly. But doctor Alexander
had the idea that perhaps those experiments weren't measuring the
addictiveness of the drug. Instead, they were measuring the effect
of being isolated and trapped. That being isolated and being

(39:52):
trapped has on a social creature, as rats and humans
both are. To test this hypothesis, he devised the rat
park a veritable rat utopia, or rats were free to
rome and frolic and socialized with other rats. They had
wheels to play with and exercise in, cheese to eat,
partners to have sex with, and they also had free
and unfettered access to drug water, the same high octane
water that the rats and the control group, alaning the cages,

(40:14):
also had access to. Guess what happened. None of the
rats in the rat park became hooked on the drug water,
and none of them died. In fact, some sample the
drug water but didn't like it and avoided it thereafter,
who needs drug water, They had friends, open spaces to
play in. It was heaven on earth for rats. As
for the lonely rats trapped in the cages, they all
died from overdose. The critically important conclusion that doctor Andrew

(40:37):
drew was that escapist addiction resulted more from a toxic environment,
including isolation and lack of community, than from the substance itself,
and these conclusions also apply to human beings. According to
doctor Alexander, people do not have to be put in
cages to become addicted. But is there a sense in
which people who become addicted actually feel quote unquote caged. Indeed,

(40:59):
every addict that I've ever worked with has described in
some form of another their addiction as a cage or
a form of enslavement to an addictive substance or behavior.
And I wonder how much of the like on we
or boredom or restlessness or whatever people feel. The sadness
is from the idea of us feeling trapped in society

(41:22):
by things that are bigger than.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Us, like things that are much larger than us.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
You know, stuff like you know, who's the president, the politics, stuff,
the hopelessness, of capitalism and consumerism, things becoming so much
more expensive, and so now you can't have kids, you
don't buy a house, you're not able to travel, and

(41:47):
so where can you go. You can travel to TikTok,
you can travel to Twitter, you can travel on Facebook
and Instagram, you can watch other people's travels on YouTube
like it. How much of our addiction to the escapism
is driven by the need to escape because life feels
like a cage and those are the things that you

(42:08):
don't really get to step back and think about because
life you're busy, you're doing whatever, or you're scrolling away.
So anyway, I love the book because it's has stuff
like that in it that's making me like, have the
word for I'm like, yes, I can see that, I
experienced that. I feel that. And personally, as a person

(42:31):
that feels like they've kind of come through a lot
via social media and kind of come out on the
other side to some extent, the things that he calls
solutions are things I did but didn't have a blueprint for.
So like me finding my friend group that I've talked

(42:51):
to all the time, almost on a daily basis, and
now at this point out it's a few groups of friends,
but and being like, like, so I'm not running to
tweet that thing as much as I'm going to the
chat like, hey, what y'all think about this? That that
that shit had it really did change me. Like I
don't have nearly the same amount anxiety I had, not

(43:13):
It's not even close. I I don't have. Uh. I
used to throw up sometimes, you know, I used to
throw up around certain people and being in certain groups
and stuff, and then it just stopped one day. I
Like the self esteem issues that I was dealing with,

(43:34):
I don't feel like I'm dealing with them anymore. I'm
not saying I walk around like cock of the walk,
but I don't feel like I'm a piece of shit,
you know what I mean? So, like I do think
those things are relevant and real, and so reading this
kind of is like it's affirming in some ways, cause
I'm like, Okay, yes, I was experiencing these things. I
was feeling these things, and I felt isolated amongst myself,

(43:58):
but I wouldn't have felt calm self isolated. But but
going back and looking at the I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,
because what the fuck is running to Twitter with a
thought different than you know, like basically running to nobody
almost you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
So yeah, and it's one of the things I feel,
you like, over the years, I've made my own because
it's it's like a personal journey when it comes to
like social media and how you interact with it, because
it's it's very personalized, and I know for me, I've
made adjustments over the years, and like I know, for me,
periodically depend on what's going on, particularly on the weekends,

(44:37):
sometimes I'll just chill and really don't go online like
I like, and sometimes shit happens, like really happens, and
Roger has to tell me. I'm like, oh okay, but
I don't have fumbo like I like. Like for me,
I'm like I'm chilling, you know, if it's that important,
I'll get an update on the news alert app.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, it's just you know whatever. Like like I said,
we all escape different ways we're human. But it's just
interesting to think about these things and like what is
the cost of it, because like I don't know, because he
also does bring up shit that I would be like,
I don't know about that, Like he talks about video
games and uh, stuff like that too, where I'm like
all right, buddy, Like unless unless you're playing video games

(45:19):
and it's making you want to kill somebody, don't. I don't,
like I take a motherfucker playing too many video games
over you know, a motherfucker that's on four chan or whatever.
But obviously the truth obviously there's some overlap and it
can be a gateway. But like he wasn't really proving
the science on the video games thing. There's certain things
where you just kind of questions but there's no definitive thing.

(45:45):
But but you can't, like you can't deny that there's
connections and correlations. But uh, you know, I don't know
if the causality is there for like in these video games,
Like it probably is there for a certain type of person,
but I don't know if it was like.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Particularly if you probably go on like message boards or
right once you get into line stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yes, once you get into that, it's even more than
just the video That is kind of what he gets into. Yeah,
but like the idea of like Karen played farm together
all weekend, well she's gonna be fucked up per anti social.
It's like I don't know if that's.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
True, you know, me playing Hours of Paper Mario ain't
gonna hurt nobody.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, all right, man, that was a lot longer than
I thought it would be. Jesus Christ, forty six minutes.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
That was a great conversation. I enjoyed talking to you.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
I know, I'm just really thinking about the capitalism of
where we're wanna put these fucking commercials, not the capitalism
y'all about to get some more med.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
I'm sorry if we're gonna be talking, hey, y'all.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, I got it right back. I got shipped to
do tonight, so I can't. I can't. Unfortunately, I can't
just be like I'll just keep going to make twelve segments.
I'm sorry, everybody, It's just gonna be the middle. It's
one of these talking episodes. Were just the talk I
try to get to some Uh, you know, let's do
some segments real quick. Uh you know, let's do some
fucking with black people, come right back.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Walking with black people, walking with black people, walking with
black people, walking with black people.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
All right, fucking with black people, go around the globe,
find different articles. Let you know how much we feel
fucked with h as people. Of course, it uh, you know,
can vary, uh, depending on you know, what's going on. Uh,
clearly I put this one in the wrong folder that
shouldn't even be there. That's on me, Open AI and

(47:53):
the King of State, and by King of State, I
mean the Estate of doctor Martin Luther King Jr. Okay,
have now they have partnered to protect doctor Martin Luther
King Junior's image and likeness.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, because the AI shit. This is why I say
this bullshit. They just be doing any and everything.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, there's no guardrails to it. Really, and basically the
outrage that was generated by people using me the AI generator,
AI image generators and video generators to create MLK in
disrespectful depictions like he hears him smoking weed, here's him

(48:36):
at a wrestling event. So I guess enough people were
outraged that the people from open AI was like, Okay,
we're not gonna let people do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
You shouldn't have allowed it in the first place.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
A statement from open AI and the King Estate. The
Estate of Martin Luther King Junior, Inc. And Open AI
have worked together address how doctor Martin Luther King Junior's
likeness is represented in sower generations. Some users generated disrespectful
depictions of doctor King's image, so as King Ink's requests.
Open AI has paused generations depicting doctor King as it

(49:13):
strengthens guardrails for historical figures. While they are strong free
speech interests in depicting historical figures. Open a I believes
public figures and their family should ultimately have control over
how their likeness is likeness is used. Authorized representatives or
state owners can request that their likeness not be using
sore cameos. Open AI thanks doctor Bernice A. King for

(49:36):
reaching out on behalf of King Ink and John Hopebrian
and the AI Ethics Council for creating space for conversations
like this. I think this is interesting. One you're blinked, uh.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Huh cause you're geting ready get a lawsuit?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Well, you're blink meaning why Why wouldn't everyone be able
to challenge you using the Why why can't Taylor swift
like no, for no reason? Can you use me? Not
just the sex shit? Just I don't want AI recreating me? Period? Why?
Why somebody gotta reach Why is the default we get

(50:11):
to violate this until you reach out and go, hey,
we don't want James Earl Jones uh pulling his dick
out or whatever?

Speaker 1 (50:20):
And the money got to talk because it ain't. It
ain't like a regular, regular person may have done this,
and y'all are like, fuck y'all.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
And it's the estate of Martin Luther King Jr. Inc.
I mean, And it wasn't just Bernice King saying, hey,
can y'all stop? It was it's some actual incorporation ship.
And I'm telling y'all, the thing that's gonna suck up
AI is not gonna be people individually. It's gonna be
when these corporations that have lawyers and money start being like,
you can't use Disney shit and your AI. It's not

(50:48):
open source. It's not for everybody, copyright U.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
It for your writers. Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
You using Mickey Mouse to do like a praise Hitler
salute or some ship. Now we gotta sue you. And
know they're not gonna want that smoke us. They don't
care about us as people. They can make me do
anything they want because they know I don't have the
resources to truly challenge them. I can just ask them
to stop and help enough people publicly get upset about it,
But more than likely it's nothing I'm gonna be able

(51:15):
to do. But like you, know MLK apparently is still
a dividing line for some people. They'll stand for that.
But yeah, these images were I mean, to me, they
were they were very disrespectful. They were brutal. Yes, I
mean it's just him smoking weed. Yeah, it's just just
ship he wouldn't be doing.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Agreed.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
It's like those fucking those those Martin Luther King Junior
parties flyers. Flyers come into life, coming to life. Ain't
that the truth? Uh? Anyway, zero two hundred care.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
This gets a jais And the biggest reason why it gets,
say Jacaris, is because y'all you shouldn't have allowed it
in the first place. And it took them coming and
knocking at your dough, and it took somebody with big
money and big pockets and big lawyers for out to go, yeah,
we better stop this because we don't want to be sued.

(52:08):
And honestly, it's gonna take somebody else, like you say,
a Taylor Swift of Beyonce or somebody else, because a
defactor of somebody going don't use my image as.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, because the default is to violate. Yes, like they're
not saying like, okay, we won't do this for anybody,
and only if if a state contacts us and says, hey,
it's okay, if you guys want to use Tupac's likeness
in these videos, then then we'll allow. Tupac is one
of the people you can do this with. No, they're
going the opposite way, So okay, it's not MLK. I'm

(52:38):
gonna do Malcolm X. Now, I gotta wait for his
estate to reach out to be like, no, we don't
want to see Malcolm X twerkuing or whatever the fuck
disrespectful shit people are using it for, and you know,
people are not generally good. So I'm gonna give it
a seventy five. I know it feels like your cars.

(52:59):
The seventy five is that Bernice King showed up. They
showed a pathway to stop this shit. They did, and
they bowed down and had to and they didn't try
to pull that like, hey, it's just free speech. They stopped.
I hope this starts something that you know, where they
we can stop all this shit. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna take a big corporation, like you know,
because these are families that got money. But yeah, like
you say, it's gonna take one of the big.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Boys before well even that MLK inc that's that's a
big boy, you know what I mean. Like it wasn't
Bernice King. They wouldn't have done it for Bernice King,
just playing on their sympathies. But when that motherfucking cease
and desist letter come through and it got that LC
incorporated or whatever, all of a sudden, it means something.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
It does. Uh.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
The black unemployment rate is that it's higher since twenty
twenty one. Unemployment for Black Americans at its worst level
since the pandemic, with some economist seeing the latest results
as a signer worst things to come for the US economy.
The unemployment rate for Black America I said seven point
five percent in August, according to seasonally adjusted data release
Friday by the Bureau Labor Statistics, is highest since October

(54:07):
twenty twenty one, more than double a rate scene for
white workers. Some possible reasons include federal job cuts and
terror fueled economy is uncertainty. Meanwhile, the unemployment rate for
black men, at seven point one percent, was slightly higher
than the six point seven percent unemployment rate scene for
black women in August, though black women have seen bigger
employment losses since the first quarter of this year. Black

(54:28):
teams of both sexes between sixteen and nineteen had an
unemployment rate of twenty four point eight percent. Here's the thing, one,
A lot of us are filling the pitch that are black, right,
Like we're black creators supported mostly by black people. We're
filling the pitch. So I felt like this this was happening.
I like, before I got them results, I was like,

(54:49):
the results is in the motherfucking monthly subscription numbers. Nigga,
I see it's not going great for everybody. But the
other thing about it, too, is where the fuck is
ice Cube? Where my platinum playing niggas? What Killer Mike?

(55:13):
Where were at y'all? Where all my give Trump a chance?
Dave Chappelle niggas at? Where my Democrats ain't never done
nothing for black folks? People at? Where y'all at? Name
one thing?

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Ain't Joe Biden done?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Where y'all at?

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Now, you just won't be rappers and actors? Right? You
don't want to be part of the you're not a politician.
I was just saying, right, where the fuck are y'all at? Man?
Where you standing at? What's the plan for the people? Now?
Why you ain't meeting with Trump. How come you ain't
call you in the office to negotiate a myth for

(55:50):
all the niggas you said, you got the back of
huh awfully fucking quiet right now. And I wouldn't even
care that you're not saying shit if you hadn't to
have said shit in the first place, because when it
was about a road in a good will and making
sure that we kneecap fucking Democrats, and you was right,

(56:11):
friend center, Oh, they ain't never did nothing. Okay, okay,
well what's the plan now? Because it sounded like the
plan is for you to keep getting your bread and
the rest of us. Oh, well you it just don't
blame you. I ain't got nothing to do with you
all of a sudden, right well, I think sometimes black

(56:32):
people should vote a prebadent. Okay, Charlomagne, where you at?
He got a person Trump gotta personally insult you for
you to put a foot on the scale and be like, okay,
actually fucking crazy right now, man, that's so that's in
your cars for me, because I can't. This is affecting
all of us, as many of us said it would.

(56:53):
Many of us said, you don't want to go down
this rabbit hole because they're never going to reward you.
And every article, every person that brings up like, well,
you know, Trump won more black voters this time, and
what did they get for it? Because whenever it's Democrats,
y'all be quick to point out like, yeah, but what

(57:14):
do you get for that? And when some of us
take the time, shout Dereci Kobert. When you take the
time go down the list of every program that actually
helps and empowers black people, when you look at the appointments,
when you look at the employment rates, when you look
at who's in cabinet positions, when you look at judges,
when you look down the line and you see how

(57:37):
it does benefit black people. When Democrats are in office,
they will tell you that it's nothing. And now that
black people are actively being hurt by this administration's policies
and their economy, I don't hear you saying shit, you
ain't even holding them accountable. Remember the whole thing for

(57:59):
many of these folded arms, I'm not really fucking with
the Democrats people, was so what we're gonna do to
whole people accountable when they in office? Well, Trump's in office,
you hold him accountable. M you the man in action
on the economy for black folks, I don't see it,

(58:19):
you selfish bitches. So yeah, your cars for me.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yeah, this right here is a your cars for me,
because it's one of those things where you've seen it
coming and you kind of knew that this was going
to be an end result. Because black people, particularly black
and brown people, but particularly black people, we are always
the canary in the coal mine. A lot of people,

(58:44):
particularly black and brown people of color of other groups,
they think that black people are quote unquote special for
some reason, and they don't understand why, and we're not special.
We always know the target is always us and everybody
else gonna get the ass whooping after we get the
ass whooping, Like they don't understand that that's how it goes.

(59:06):
And so to protect your shit, you need to protect
our shit too. But they don't see it like that,
Like they don't see it the target is us. Because
once you kill the black people here in America, you
kill resistance, you kill people the will of the people,
because the will of the people is black people. A

(59:27):
lot of the shit that has happened in this country
and a lot of other black and brown people benefit
from shit that black people have bled and dyed and
stood up on like like for real, for real though,
And it's just one of those things where we're all
in this boat together, and black people is one of
the few groups that actually understand that. That's why we're
always reaching out. We're always doing coalitions. Regardless of who

(59:49):
you are. We're like, hey, every hand, help, every dollar, help, y'all,
let's do this together. We know we can't do it
on our own. Even when shit gets passed, we can't
do it on our own. You need people on the inside.
You need people on the outside. You need people protesting,
you need people teaching, You need people doing all types
of things to get shit done so that our legacies

(01:00:11):
will live on so we will have be here for generations.
It just won't be fucking wiped out. Yes, it's a
fucking your carriage because from people federal realize that the
shit that's going on right now, you're gonna impact people
for generations. Because you're talking about people that have had
some of these government jobs for decades and years, and
shit like there's a lot of money invested that all
of a sudden day that they don't have. You're gonna

(01:00:32):
have people losing homes, losing a lot of shit because
they just decided, oh, we want to fucking just random
getting rid of seven hundred, eight hundred one thousand people.
You know, particularly when it first started with Elon Musk
and the bullshit that he was doing, Like like that
shit matters.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
What happened to the black jobs? What happened though, what
do you got to lose? Remember, I know black people
that failed for that. That was like, oh, they gonna
get rid of the immigrants and then the some something
black jobs. Magically, highest unemployment since twenty twenty one, lowest
home ownership, Like where y'all at?

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, man, is very very It's very frustrating because Black
people in America are the blueprint for a lot of
protests now not only hear in our country, but around
the world. People mimic the shit that we did in
other countries. You'll know the foundation of the things that
we have done. And so it's very frustrating, and my

(01:01:35):
heart goes out to people that cannot work, My heart
goes out to people that have lost their jobs. And
the thing is, like you say, it affects black people more,
and particularly black women because we a lot of times,
we're the highest educated group.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
They're trying to strip the rest of the VRA Act
Voting Rights Act, they're trying to strip the rest of
the VR Like, where are y'all at, man, y'all had said,
y'all cared about us, y'all are quiet as fucking church
minds right now? Right, your voice don't mean nothing, now,
you just I'm just an entertainer. Now, wow, why would

(01:02:10):
anyone listen to me? Right? But when it was time
to talk about the election, you was popping up out
of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yeah, you were beating your chest and you had a voice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
And the median, this median black household income fell three
point three percent last year. That's already thirty six thousand
dollars less than that of a white household. With what
the fuck? And we're the first meaning, you're right, we
catch flu, they catch a cold. But it's coming, yes,
flu coming for y'all lass too. Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
And also the thing about it is a lot of
the white people are the last to be impacted by it.
So when shit started happening, and the economy is affected
and the food, like, everybody's feeling certain things, but for
a lot of them, they're going to feel it last.
And so when people are telling them, he y'all storm

(01:03:01):
coming to storm coming, it ain't good, They're gonna blow
it off until it's at their front door, and by
then everybody else is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Yeah, And I guess there's an out add on to
this instead of making it its own billet point, because
I feel like this is just addition to it. The
Department of Education cancels HBCU grants. Education Department pours three
hundred and fifty million dollars from minority seven programs, and
where y'all at and where the Trump checks? Where the

(01:03:29):
fuck y'all at?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Dog?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
It's mad quiet. This not new news. This happened in
September that I'm reading this right now. Just been a
while since we did this segment. They've had over a
month to say something, to speak up on our behalf,
to hold Trump accountable, to use all their inrolls personally
to say something. The black coons that surround him should
have been out here speaking, saying speaking up for us.

(01:03:53):
Steven A. Smith, mister, you gotta be nice to Trump
so he'll give you something. He could have advocated for
black folks on point instead of scolding black people. Nah,
it's crazy and I'm not gonna let them gas like
me honer, this shit like this is crazy that y'all
was on this side, or at least shitting on the

(01:04:15):
side that would have preserved these things. And now you
ain't got nothing, no scolding, no judgment, no outrage, your
no voice. You're still trying to find some way to
talk shit about Kamala Harris and Jasmine Crockett or something
as opposed to what's happening to all of us right now,

(01:04:37):
because your pockets straight.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Yeah. And also, and I will always stand behind this.
When Trump first got elected and them HBCU presidents had
to go up there and motherfucker's lost their goddamn minds.
And now I was like, hey, dog, they have to
do this for the longevity of HBCUs. They can't not

(01:04:59):
go up there because he's still got damn petty and
they know it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Snip dogg dancing for these niggas. I'm sorry, I know
they ain't got nothing to do what you're just saying.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
No problem, but but but but but but but it's
frustrating though. It's very frustrating though, because also the thing
is not only uh this isn't and I will say
this is an attack on black and brown people, but not.
But I'm black, So I'm specifically talking about my group

(01:05:29):
because they want us to not be able to get
higher education, They want us to have to take lower
pay wage jobs and ship like that, Like this is
the whole purpose. And and like I said, the purpose
is slavery and and and and and the thing is
what I've realized. When people are higher educated, that means
they have more free time. That means they can do

(01:05:52):
things that people who have to work too and through
jobs can't. All of a sudden, you have the time
to go out and protest. All of a sudden, you
have the time to go to the school board, in
the council meetings and all that type of shit. And
so it's one of those things where if they can
keep us out of school and keep us uneducated and
keep us out of this place, all of a sudden,
our wealth just dwindles down than it already has.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, absolutely right, You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
And that's been the target the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Also though they hate us, Yes, so there's that part
of it too. They want to see us suffer. They
like that we're frustrated, Like they hate us, so they'll
they they they want us to not be able to vote,
they want us to not be employed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Yeah they they before.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Yeah, like the major things you're bringing up will come
to bear if those condition factors are met. But also
they just hate us. They even if that wasn't going
to happen, they like, even if they're not thinking of
it as forty years from now black people want They're like,
we don't ever want black people to have anything. We
don't value them as human beings.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
No, we never, We never have. We've always been upset
since they've been free, and we will never let it go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah. And I just can't help but think about how
there were people that just felt like this last election
was some like some dods you lose them. And I
was like, no, it's not this one different. I'm like,
I don't know what to tell y'all, but just like
I guess you. And the thing that bothered me is
that I know in those moments, those people were judging me.

(01:07:28):
They think I was tripping, and I'm you know, I
feel like, uh, I feel like uh Michael from Star
Trek uh the Last Star Trek God, why can Michael
Burnham from Star Trek. It's not Discovery. What the fuck
was the last one? What's it Discovery? Anyway? But she

(01:07:48):
was like, I'm trying to save you. That's how I
felt they're the last election, was like, y'all are fucking
fighting me. I'm trying to save yo ass. I'm telling
you this shit means something more. And just like, oh,
she's a shitty candidate, you're stupid. If you're falling for that, yes,
you are the out. This is gonna be about more
than just oh well, you think there is a limit

(01:08:11):
to how bad shit can get, And I'm telling you
there really is not. The guardrails are not guarding, right,
they're just railing us. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
The things that I designed to protect you will no
longer protect you. What are you going to do?

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
All right? I'll try to end it on something funnier better. Uh,
you know, it's just a little bit. I guess the
race and I wrap this thing up. Like I said,
I have to go, guys. It's hard to guess the race.

(01:08:48):
It's time to race, it's time to catch the race.
It's time to guess the race. The first couple of
commercial breaks, they're gonna be like, what what's happening. Let's see,
I'll go with this one. Spirit Halloween security guard kills

(01:09:10):
man accused of stealing items worse less than ninety dollars. Oh,
it's all employee of a month, going above and beyond
to protect Spirit Halloween, miss the Halloween family's heirlooms.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
With chat, They're gonna have a lot of empty buildings
they're gonna be popping up in because it's a bunch
of places.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
The store is temporary, but the death penalty is permanent.
A store known for promoting fun of entertainment suddenly descending
the cast when a man expected of the shop lifting
was killed by the store security guard. Host Josiah Armio,
twenty five, has been charged with second degree murder in
the death of Chase Bell Tromo, forty one. On Thursday

(01:09:58):
around five pm. Bell trump I was in Spirit Halloween
in New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico. The shop security guard
Ourmeo was keeping watch. Bell Tromo is said to have
gathered multiple items from the store walked outside without paying
for him. That's when our Meo sprung into action. The
suspect tackled the man and pulled him into a steel

(01:10:20):
pole before the man fell to the ground. The two
began to fight. Ourmeo was on top and begins to
strike Chase with what appears to be his fist. The
two fight, during which Josiah, while on top of Chase
Josiah's a guy that the security guard, draws his firearm,
points it directly and Chase his face and begins to

(01:10:41):
scream at him. At one point, bel Tromo managed to
wrestle free and stand up before Ourmeo threw him back
on the ground. Don't f and move, don't f and move,
you don't move, our Meo reportedly screened at bell Tromo,
I'll fucking shoot you. The suspected shoplifter does not comply,
attempts to get up and run away, but he didn't.

(01:11:02):
The complaining states, but he did not hit him at
this time, and at no point was but Traumo believed
to have been the possession of a weapon. Our Meo
is said to have then hosted his gun, pulled out
pepper spray, spraying it within inches of the man's face.
As beal Traumo rolled on his back. Ourmeo drew his
fire arm again and he began to scream again. Do
not move or he would shoot him, all while holding
the gun to chase his face. The man continued to

(01:11:23):
fight on the ground and beal Traumo managed to get
on top of our meal, appearing to hit him. So
now he's losing the fight, and that's when he got shot.
With the shot rang out, followed by another, with a
final shot seen raising the back of Chase his shirt.
Beal Traumo was shot in the left upward area of
his torso as well as the left buttocks. He led
us accumb to his injuries and died. Following the three

(01:11:44):
gun shots, josiahs heard screaming on his radio that shots
were fired and he needed help. H you're not a cop,
You're a first of all, a security guard, saying shots fired.
I don't even who answers the other side of that
walkie talkie.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
That's a great question. I feel like that the other
no security people that they got batons going, what is
we gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Feel like Top Flight Security is not prepared for this
situation at all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
What you're gonna now? They got the down down one one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Yeah, Like you're not supposed to be doing cop stuff
for real. You're supposed to just have a flashlight or
something in a stuner. I wouldn't even know what to do.
I'm a I'm a manager, and motherfucking Spirit Halloween and
walkie talking Come on, like, officer down, what I know
what you're.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Gonna be going in fourteen? In seven days? What are
we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
I got a cold twenty seven? What does that even mean?
I just suspect that man shots fired? Yeah, I don't man,
you need to call not pick your regular phone up,
call down one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
What you calling us?

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Y'all? Get the fuck off this walkie talkie. Implicate me
in some bullshit?

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
The costs of the items stolen were intended to be
stolen were less than ninety dollars. All right, car had
all that. Guess the race of Joset Josiah our Mijo Leat,
you know, just checked the chat room, see what they believe.
El Pablo Blato Latina like all Blart, Oh that's good,

(01:13:07):
that's good. L Casper the Ghostly Guard Latino, Latin homie
got rejected from ICE's Guarden, Spirit Halloween, Spicy White and Latino.
The correct answer is I think everyone went Latino except
for someone said spicy White. The correct answer is Latino,

(01:13:36):
and someone said spicy white. Yeah, that's him, man. I
guess now it's the Holy Spirit Halloween going to that
great beyond.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
I guess God needed a shoplift in heaven. All right,
let's go to the one. Karen's one for one so far.
I let's see what else she got. A man trying
to hawk a rolex shoots a woman while attempting to

(01:14:16):
show off a gun. A lot of stuff happening in
this crime. Uh. A Florida man who was drinking champagne
and conversing with friends in his Miami Beach condo ended
up shooting one and then while attempting to show off
a Rolex and a pistol he had in his possession.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Leonardo and Mescua fifty two is charged with culpable negligence
and tampering with evidence in connection with the summer shooting incident.
Video obtained this week by local Fox affiliate WSVN allegedly
shows at Mescua trying to hawk his luxury rolex watching
watching the early morning hours of July nineteenth, after meeting

(01:14:55):
up with the female victim at a local bar that
she co owns in a Miami Beach and in Miami
Beach and eating dinner with her. So this was like
a date or something. I don't know, maybe they are friends,
because I feel like on a date, trying to sell
your rolex is not given. It's not given. What you
think is given. As the night continued, the two of
them met up with one of the victim's friends and

(01:15:16):
the pala's husband at a Mesco condo inside Okay, so
there's friends, I guess a Mescuo's condo inside Miridor Apartments
at three am. After three am, shit, police say in
a criminal complaint with a view by the Law and Crime.
On Wednesday, a Mescua, who was allegedly intoxicated, was talking
about selling the watch, which he decided to show off

(01:15:36):
a pistol he owns as well. What see now, I
feel like you loving me, like you bet about his watch?

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
It's like the time me and my brother was walking
to Wendy's behind McDonald's and this dude, this homeless man
came out of the woods, out of like out of
some out of the bushes and was like, hey, you boys,
I want to buy a knife. And I'm like, is
this nigga robbing us? I don't know. What like you

(01:16:06):
asking little kids if they want to buy a knife.
It's a good knife. What the fuck I'm gonna do
with it? Sir? I'm Dennis the minute. Are you just
robbing us of our mcmeal money? Because just take the money.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
I'm take the money. I have to go back and
tell grandma money got stolen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
And my brother, we was little at the time. My
brother was considering it, like, well how much.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
I was like, no, nigga, give you. We ain't doing
you know how much?

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Man stab us back? And my mom gonna be like,
I know, I'm not shouldn't let y'all walk to McDonald
right anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
But yeah, he was a toxkter. I know what that
watch is. A man could be heard saying on the video,
if it's real, one hundred and fifty minimum. Another man
allegedly says, one hundred and fifty dollars. It's a Rolex,
Ain't it like one hundred and fifty K? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
I don't hope you mean it's a K behind that? Yeah,
one hundred and fifty dots zero zero.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
The group was drinking champagne in the kitchen looking at
the watch when Mscua said he had something cool to
show him. Oh God. He went to his bedroom into
the kitchen with what the guests described as a silver
and black firearms. Suddenly, the firearm went off and the
friend noticed the victim was shot. The friend left the
apartment with her husband and the victim once they were
away from the defendant and called the police. Cops say

(01:17:21):
they have arrived just seen around seven thirty am. Oh well,
take your time, and found m Obscure locked inside his
condo refusing to come out. Miami Beach police officers knocked
on his apartment door for thirty minutes because he come
to the door. Then they had swat. They requested them
to assist, and he had surrendered around eight oh five am.
Investigator spoke to the female friend's husband about what happened.

(01:17:44):
He said he very adamantly stated that it was very
negligent and reckless of mmbscure to handle the firearm while
being intoxicated. The husband took the firearm away from Escure
and threw it toward the front door. The friend can
be heard on the video obtained by WSPN describing what
she remember seeing that night. Blood blood, blood, blood. He's
scheduled go to trial October twenty third. Karen, guess the

(01:18:06):
race of mister Leonardo and Masqua. I'm not going Karen's
going white. Let's check the chat room see what they believe. Yeah,
that's crazy, like you're already. First of all, no, I
don't want to buy your Rolex. Second of all, a
gun is something cool. I want to see something cool.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
It was been drunken skunks, African, Cuban, b travel traveling, Cuban,
pond shop, Latino, his Panic. The correct answer is Karen
went with white. You got it wrong. He's a Spanic.

(01:18:55):
Some of you got it right, most of you gotta right. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
I'll take that one because that was a lot of
white ass crimes being locked up for thirty minutes. They
got to go and get people. You're yeah, that was
that was? That was a lot like I was like
you you was floating, buddy, floating, Yeah, just just doing
ship and the police are like, what be gonna do?
Let's get the squad. Let's listen. Listen. I'm saying, fuck,

(01:19:24):
just wrest them. What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Let's go to the bonus round? Was why I am racist?

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
How can I be racist about everybody? Or an.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
I'm playing the wrong version. Unto high Jumping speed Chucking
three hundred all got time to replay it and play
the right one. But and you did not earn that too.

(01:20:02):
That was not the right version, no One. In one
last story, an Alabama woman landed herself behind bars after
she was accused of setting her ex boyfriend's house on fire,
reportedly because he chose not to go to a Little
Wayne concert with her.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Damn, I mean it's more. Yeah, if you're gonna set
the house on fire, you gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Be a little bit motiv For those asking yes this
articles from twenty twenty five, I don't guess now. If
you told me this happened in two thousand and four,
then I might understand. Amy Beth Taylor, forty six. It's
charge of first degree arson following an incident September twenty
fifth at her former boyfriend's home in Heartsell, Alabama. According
to court documents obtained by The heart Cell inquiring a

(01:20:44):
local news outlet, Morgan County Sheriff's deputies were called on
Thursday responded to a fire of the residents on Peak Road.
When they arrived, the firefighters were already at the scene,
as well as several witnesses the police spoke to them.
They said that Taylor was the ex girlfriend of the
property owner and apparently she was I right. According to
that affid David, Taylor arrived at the property that day
and walked into a shed. She was all right due

(01:21:06):
to the victim not going with her to a concert
the day before. She didn't allegedly threaten to burn down
the man's home or the shed. Then walked out of
the shed. Not long after Taylor was seen leaving the shed,
one of the witnesses told police that another woman living
on the property called her, saying that her room was
filled with smoke. When the woman opened the door to
her room, she found the rest of the house filled
with smoke as well. She got out the house safely,

(01:21:27):
called down one one. Police arrested Taylor the same day
and booked her into the Morgan County Jail. She's in
custody as a Wednesday. Her bella said it twenty thousand dollars.
She was ordered not to have contact with the property
on her or any witnesses. Yeah, I mean she had
to find a hotel they staying in. She doesn't burnt
shit down. During her court appearance, On Monday, Tayler Brooks,

(01:21:48):
and investigator with Morgan County Sheriff's Office, testified that after
Taylor waved her Miranda right, she provided a statement were
she referred to the victim as her boyfriend. On nine
twenty four to twenty five, my boyfriend and I was
supposed to go to the Little Wayne concert in Huntsville.
When I tried to call my boyfriend multiple times yesterday,
he never answered the phone. I went to the concert
with my cousin there, and after the concert, I went

(01:22:08):
to my boyfriend's house around midnight. Books also stated that
Taylor told the witnesses at the scene that she had
been consuming alcoholic beverages and was upset. She frighten said
in those words because her ex boyfriend did not go
to a concert with her the night before. She also
allegedly said she was going to catch the shed or
his house on fire. She's statement continue, I've told my

(01:22:30):
boyfriend in the past I would burn his house down
a joking manner. I didn't catch my boyfriend's house on fire.
Taylor's what okay? Taylor's charged the first degree arson girl,
You going to jail. She also faces three counts of
chemical endangement to a child for allegedly exposing three of
her six children to methanphetamine.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
What god damn, what does that come from? That last sentence?
Don't know what we're doing? Drugs? Dude?

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Can we get a foreshadow? And was myth in the
house sudden? The ship and the chemicals from the metal car?

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
What was happening? And when did myth?

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
How did myth get into it?

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
What myth was like?

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Girl, I'm here right, that's that's insane. That's the myth.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
The meloe line. I don't mind my business?

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Right? What is wrong with people?

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Man? Has anybody got a problem with telling good old
fashioned regular drugs? You should tell me that, all right? Karen,
guess the race of Amy Beth Taylor?

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Amy Beth Taylor, that's her name. Oh, that's one hundred
percent white, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Karen's going with white checked the chat room, Whiz night,
Weizyana girl, white girl, white white girls, white girls, Jamaican
trinidaddy in black. Tyler Perry wrote these and white a
method to her madness, still raising the babies on mess

(01:24:02):
with three first names white?

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Yeah, she did have three first names. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
I didn't even think about it. But yeah, it's like
Amy Beth Taylor or some ship. Yeah that's three white
girl names, three of the whitest.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
That's I was like, I would be shocked if this
is a black.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Person and somebody said black. But I don't. They must
have been joking, all right, sword ratchet This time an

(01:25:04):
Oregon man attacked a person with a sword before punching
girlfriend in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Oh right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
A cort Valist man was arrested Saturday after assaulting someone
with a katana. According to the police, officers responded to
a home after reports of assault. When they arrived, official
said they learned the twenty nine year old seth Amos
Grace seth Amos Grace was at his home drinking with
his girlfriend and the victim when Grace assaulted the victim
with a katana, seriously injuring their leg. Police also said

(01:25:33):
they learned that earlier that day, while walking to the
store to buy more alcohol, he had punched his girlfriend
in the face, breaking her nose.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Why does he even have access to a sword. This
is a dangerous man, Yes it is. Grace was taking
in the CUTSI is facing several charges couting first grid
attend to the salut second a gris saw and lawful
use of a weapon in fourth to grill saw. The
victim and Grace's girlfriend were both taken to a nearby
hospital for treatment. Get him off the streets and get
take his sword with please. All Right, Tay, that's it

(01:26:02):
for today's show. We'll be back throughout the week. No
show Wednesday for sure, and yeah, until next time, I
love you.

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