3194: An Old Timey Musket

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But we're not alone. Nope, we actually have a guest,
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Today's guest is a stand up comedian, actress, artist, and
podcaster who hosts The Mary Hulahan Show.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Spoiler alert, guys to send the title. It's Mary, Julian.
What's going on? How you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Hello? How are you good? Love your shirt?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Oh? Thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I love Mario Brothers, I love the rainbows. I love
lgbt Q people. It feels like I'm over here. She's
always wrapped up up. We're nerds, Mary. If you can't tell,
I'm always so.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
That's why I'm wrapped up pretty big nerds.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
I thought you guys were cool, but now now I
get it.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
You may we get mistaken. We are squareses.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
We getting mistaken for cool every once in a while,
and then I have to inform the people like, no,
I can name all the nauto characters. This is nothing
from me. What is that sheep behind you? That feels
like something on your school?

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I remember that that was a show that sheep.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
I was like, I remember that, is it from Barney?
Where's lamb Chop from Barney?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
No, lamb Chop is its own thing.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Oh, Lamb Chop had its own show. Yes it did.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Oh man, I can't remember the name right now, but yes,
I remember watching it as a child.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Lamb Chop.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Y oh, and there's another one with a little magic hat.
There's like a it's like a wizard lamb Chop.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's a witch lamb Chops.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Oh wow, see this Now that's nerdys. I feel like
that's nerdy. I feel like seasonal Lamb Chops is its
own type of you got you lamb chopped up? You
got like three lamb Chops over there.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Do they all have the same voice or are they different?
Are they different characters? Are they just Lamb Chops with
different clothes.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
It's it's Lamb Chop with different clothes, Tony styles, says
Sherry Lewis.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Sherry Lewis is Lamb CHOP's mom.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Oh okay, wait is that real? She's his mom? For like,
his mom's not missus chopped here.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh okay, okay, I'll get it. Yeah, I thought maybe
he had his mama, was like, maybe Lamb Chop was
born out of wedlock and didn't get the mom's last name.
So his mom was Sherry Lewis or her mom and
then lamb Chop was just chopped.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
You know that was lamb Chop, right, yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Or I guess lamb Chop could be all one name,
so it's like lamb Chop. We just found out lamb
Chop Lewis last name is Lewis. So maybe I thought
I thought we were uncovering some deep cuts about.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Chops stage name lamb Chop.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
After every joke. But first of all, it's nice to
meet you. I listened to your podcast, your latest episode.
It had Mike Kaplan on, who is a good friend
of ours as well, been on the show multiple times.
And also I feel like every human being he's coming
to contact with has made his Uh it's almost like

(04:26):
email list, yes, you know, lifeless.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
It's not because it's deeper than emails. Because I don't
like you I mentioned. I heard you mentioned you get
text from him. Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I also get text from him whenever something reminds him
of me, and then I now text back when I
see stuff that I think about him. So how'd you
meet Mike Kaplan And and like, what's the story behind that?

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I met him doing comedy. I used to host some
comedy shows me and my friends, and we you know,
reach out on Facebook, Messenger or whatever to the more
famous comedians and say, I hope they do our show
and so yeah, I remember feeling like a little youngster

(05:14):
comedian and like.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
He's so cool, he's done less comics.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Standing, oh my god, and yeah, always just a humble,
hopeful person.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's really crazy, like they make people like.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
That, right, They still make them like that who are.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Able to be successful.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
You know, it's like, what, yeah, I know, I need
to focus more on that instead of catching myself ranting
about right.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Ironically, you know, Mike would like that practice of gratefulness
for us all to just be like, I'm going to
ignore the people who are shitty and just be like,
oh man, this great person is doing good and I
like that. How long have you so, I know it
said you did stand up? How long have you done
stand up? Like when did you start?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Oh my god, long ass time. I started in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Oh, but I wish I didn't do it that long
because then it would sound more impressive.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I've just been doing it a year or two?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
What, right, natural, this such a success.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, it's like lying about your age, but lying about
your experience.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Actually from that long ago I know there has been
like a huge shift in like social media and all
these things, because that was kind of when social media
was first all rise.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Well, it's crazy, like when I started comedy, I knew
people who were like famous on vine and were sort
of like, see you later, guys, I'm going to Hollywood,
gonna ride this vine fame, and then you know, that falls,
and then every new thing comes and go. So I

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don't know. I guess the lesson is just never be
too big for your breitches because a new thing is
gonna come.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
And Yeah, it is interesting though, because it adaptable, because
it's not like it used to be, because you know,
before it's like I'm a comedian. I tell my jokes
or I write my jokes or get a team to
help me write my jokes. But now I have to
be everything. I have to be the marketer, the promoter.
I have to be, you know, the financer. I have
to know how to cut an edit a video. I

(07:30):
gotta know how to you know, post on multiple websites
like I could see it been a lot.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Yeah, it's crazy, Like another thing that's changed when I
was younger, Like if you were to post a video
of just one joke.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
People would think you're like a loser. They'd be like,
what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (07:50):
You like don't know how the comedy business works, And
now like everyone does it all day every day, Like
it would be more normal to film like a five
minute set of yours and then like submit that to
the late night shows and then hopefully get booked by them.
And now no, you just post your own stuff and

(08:11):
they'll find you. I kind of I kind of like
it because people can just blow up without having to
like kiss anyone's ass or whatever.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I always wonder how I feel like those type of
sea changes are genuine, those genuine sea changes where it's like, oh,
you know what's happening now is someone kind of accidentally
went viral with CrowdWork, and then another community realized, oh,
you can just I'm gonna post my CrowdWork stuff that way,
I'm not burning any material, and then you know, that

(08:44):
blows up. But then there's always this moment where like
everyone starts imitating what's being successful, So then it becomes
like now that's the new norm. And then I feel
like the final step phase is when like entities learned
to kind of mimic that, so now it's not even
like a genuine CrowdWork moment.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's like, no, there's a whole team behind.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
You don't even know, Like they bought Box, they got this,
and they got and I feel like we're constantly now
and maybe it's always been this way, but technology may
have sped it up. I feel like we're now constantly
surfing out to the edge of the wave all the
time to be like, wait, is twitch.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Going to be a thing? Should I be doing twitch?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Should I?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I don't know? Did I miss twitch? And twitch over?

Speaker 5 (09:26):
You know?

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I feel like that that's a new anxiety for comedians.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Sure, yeah, I just started this podcast, and even that,
I'm like, I should have done this like five years ago.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, it's like you're coming to a party, like is
it over yet? Are you? Are we staying?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
You know?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
And what are we doing? Guys? Is okay if I
start now? Or yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
But you know, like one thing with podcasting, I mean,
I guess with all art though, is if you're just
kind of genuine to yourself, no one can imitate that.
Like that's the hardest thing find is like being comfortable
just being you and whatever you bring to the table,
and then people will kind of find the audience starting
this podcast, Now, like what was the impetus that started

(10:13):
and what did you want to send? What conversations did
you want to center it around?

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Well, I kind of started because I was annoyed at
seeing podcast clips. I would see a lot of like,
you know, these comedians like Joe Rogan or comedians in
the quote unquote Rogan sphere, and a lot of their
clips are just like not funny. But so that's annoying
in itself. But then I would also get annoyed by

(10:39):
comedians who maybe are like more similar to me, but
all they do is complain about the Rogan spear and
blah blah blah, And I'm sort.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Of like, why don't you guys just make your own thing? Right?

Speaker 5 (10:52):
So, and also like another thing is not every episode
of my podcast is about Palestine, but several of my
podcast episodes are about that because I just don't see
it talked about enough in the media.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
So like, if you don't talk about it at all,
it's like it dropped off the map.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
It's nobody said anything.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, it really makes me mad, honestly, because like,
especially like the late night TV shows and like comedy
TV shows, I'm like, you should be talking about this
because during the Bush era, you guys were all making
anti war jokes.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Weren't you doing it now?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Right?

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Because it's more complicated than now quote unquote, but it's
really not.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, it's kind of though.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's very weird because like there's this fine line between
like normalizing something and trivializing stuff, you know, like like
comedy can be great truth to power, Like obviously, like
that's at least to me. I know, there's the Rogan Spears,
you know, power to power to you know, I don't know,
violence to power.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's like it's like, no, what's funny is being like
it's you know, you're you're gay or whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
It's like that's not funny, right, Yeah, But it is kind.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Of weird that so many comedians have like accepted the
mantle of like modern day philosopher.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I just put eye punch at the status quo.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I don't care who's in charge, and then like the
second bullies really do get in charge, It's like, I.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Don't know, man, I'm just making jokes up here. What
do we do?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Waa waa, I don't have no power? Why y'all listening
to me, it's like what you told me three minutes ago.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
What's happening?

Speaker 3 (12:38):
What's so funny?

Speaker 5 (12:39):
I actually was just doing another podcast called Off the
Record with Sean O'Connor and Brendan Walsh and their podcast
you listen to comedy records and then chat about them,
And we were listening to an old Don Rickles album
and you know, he makes fun of every race, but
like it's people in the audience, So if he's making

(13:01):
fun of an Asian person, he's pointing at them and
they're laughing at the joke.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Everyone's in on the joke.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
And we were talking about like how there isn't a
comedian like him now, but there are comedians who claim
they're doing what he's doing. Really they're just like racist
and mean yes, because and then if you're like that's mean,
they're like, it's a joke.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Don't you get it?

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Because it's not the same Because as somebody who loves
to go to like live comedy, when you're in the audience,
it's an atmosphere set, it's a trust between the audience
and the comedian. You know, like like it's a different thing.
Social media has come along and they just want to
act like nothing's a joke, nothing's funny, and.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
You're like, hey, y'all, like, if I'm here, I'm here
on the joke. I get the joke. I understand.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
And a lot of times, like you say, they think
that they're being edgy, but they're not really being edgy
at all.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
They just want the illusion and they want the credit
of it.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I think.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I think also like part of it is right when
social media started, like say twenty ten, I used to
make the joke that the worst two people like hit
each other in the center of vent diagram. It was
stand up comedians and bloggers, like both both have kind

(14:22):
of outside egos, both very you know, important, And I
used to have a blog like I'm like, I'm just
calling it like I see it.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
But it's like, but neither.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Dealt with dissent or disagreement very well. It's like this
is a personal attack you. You said, my opinion isn't
as good as yours, and I was like, that's it
kind of is set the tone for the fallout we
see now where it's more extreme, where like there's comedians
who I feel like have stopped trying to be funny.
They're just trying to make the same point they've been

(14:52):
making for like ten like you're too sensitive for It's like, bro,
it's been fifteen years. You're not even being you're not
even making jokes now you're.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Just it's giving me a monologue.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I came here for the yuk yucks.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
It's just an hour of like how you can't make
jokes or whatever, right and so and even. And then
the other thing that I think happened was social media
broadened the room to outside the room. So there used
to be like an unspoken agreement. You pay for comedy,
live comedy, you go see it in person, and if

(15:22):
you're a person that likes comedy, there's a bunch of
like little rules, like this guy's trying to make me laugh.
There's no guarantee that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
That's the attempt. Yeah, it doesn't always work out.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Some of these jokes are jokes they're working on, and
they'll need to keep working on it based on our response.
So you know, you try that joke and you're like
that one was overlying. Fuck, I gotta either sharpen it.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Up or lose it or change it.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Like yeah, and that was that understanding and as and
also I feel like as an audience, before social media,
there was kind of an understanding of like, and shit
might not be funny tonight, like yo, you never hold
leaven the house hoping for and the reason you pay
more for more bigger access because they have a higher
ratio of typically.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Being funny and delivering whatever, right.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
And I think all of that shifted in so many
different ways, And so our conversation today is really more
about how it all changed and not really about the
substance of it, because like the agreement's been broken. Now
comedians they do comedy for outside their own Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, So like this isn't us like
finding a video that tos point zero wouldn't have wanted

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us to see before it was ready, and then we
got mad because and he's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
That's not the rules. Now they do know those are
the rules.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
And I feel like sometimes you watch a comedy set,
and I'm not saying it's just because I have more
progressive leanings.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I mean, just joke structure A plus B equal C.
Some of the jokes just aren't funny.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
They're missing elements of a joke, like oh, this isn't
a twist. You're just loudly saying something. You're saying things
that aren't true, and so that if the joke that
set up isn't based in fact, then it's just it's
just a lie. There's never it's never like it's like
when they when Dave Jeapelle's like, oh needs the real

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problem is like how much power these trans kids have,
and like that set up's not true, so that whatever
your joke's gonna be later, I didn't agree in the
first place. So so you're only gonna get people that
agree with that mindset. And that's I mean, it's not
based in fact, so it's it has to be divisive
by by practice, right, And so I say all that

(17:31):
to say, I think that's why comedians are doing podcasts
that aren't making jokes, that are just doing shit like
that now because we're all fun and.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
It's so lazy, because it's like a way to like
get a lot of fans and followers right away, because
you're gonna get a bunch of people who feel like,
oh my god, everyone's so triggered, I can't say anything.
So you're getting those people to follow you, But those
people don't have a sense of humor.

Speaker 6 (17:57):
Right, and they don't even come out to comedy.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
Club cynically and you know what you're doing, and you're like, well,
you know they'll become my fans and they'll tickets.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Do you really want those people in your audience who
don't get jokes right?

Speaker 5 (18:12):
And like it's gonna come a point that like you're
not edgy enough for them, and then what they're gonna
turn on you?

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I always feel a little like, uh, the it's almost
like politics, where like one side of our country's politics
has decided to like, at least try to govern, and
then the other side is like, govern why the fuck
we do that? And so it makes voters like more
focused on the people that are trying to govern because

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you're like, you guys gotta basically be perfect, Like the
other people aren't even gonna try, so like the standards
are gonna always just keep raising for you and it's
gonna be hard, but that And I feel like that's
kind of how it is a comedy for me, where
it's like there's a side that's not trying, and I,
like me as person that just wants to watch a special,
I'm like, oh, and a person that when I watch comedy,

(19:05):
I'm not very uptight about comedy me either.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
I feel like you can joke. I think I feel
like you can't joke about anything Struggs Struggles again.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Don Rickles, Joan Rivers.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yes, they're mean, and they'll also like make jokes about
like stereotype, different races or whatever, and if there is
a joke structure, it's so satisfying, like wow, I didn't
know where they were gonna go with that exactly off
laughing like problematic thing.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
And I don't know if it's an age thing when
it comes to comedy, I don't have to agree with
you for it to be funny, and that some people
get so caught up into I have to agree. No, no, no,
I've heard comedians say fucked up jokes and I was like,
that's fucked up.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
But ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I think I saw I think I saw like Corey
Hoakm Live once and I was like, this is the
most offensive ship I've ever heard, and like the everyone
everyone in the autist was cracking up laughing, and it
wasn't a you can really agree with it thing, because
like it was so over the top that like one
like each joke was almost like this half of the

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room will think this is cool, then this half of
the room will not think.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
This is good.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Like like it was just moving back and forth, and
I was like, I mean, that's that's funny. You know,
I'm leaving their tears and minds like that. That ship
cracked me up. And he could be a horrible person.
I don't really want to know. That's the other That's
the other thing social media and podcast stole from us
is I feel like the comedians used to be like

(20:40):
the clown right. You know, you're in the greenroom, you
put on your makeup and you and your stuff, and
you go out there and your waka waka, and some
of it is like maybe this is who this guy is.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
But they're also doing entertainment product, so that might not
even be with that guys. And I used to like that.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I used to like being like, I don't know, it
was it was edgy, But I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
He really believes that to now.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Once you pull off the podcast, the podcast is almost
never like stand up right, it's not hours that you
practiced and jokes you've honed in sixty minutes or it's
just a conversation now, I do know you feel like that.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
I'm like, oh no, and I would rather not.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
You know, maybe it's just me, but it's like the
thing with like the celebrity craze is we know too
much now, and you totally don't want to admit that
knowing too much can be a problem. You know, That's
why people get in their feelings about certain things. I'm
like that shit ain't that important, but they've invested in
them because they have that emotional attachment that we used

(21:41):
to didn't have. You come, you entertain, you leave, you,
you work on your whatever it is, You come back
to me, entertain some more, you leave.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I do miss I do miss it. I don't know
if it's better now or worse, Like, I truly don't
like it may be a zon I think.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Before even like celebrities being on social media and being like,
oh I'm silly, I'm not wearing makeup, right, it's still
a persona. So I'd rather just like not see you
do a fake like this is what I think real
people will like.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
You know, you know when we you know, when we
crossed the bridge and we couldn't go back. It was
during COVID when the celebrities made the song the imagine,
all the.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
People they thought they was helping it. People was like what.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Is that was?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
That was when we couldn't go back, because like that
was the first time I saw people reject something nice,
like you know, like it was yeah, Normally it was like, oh,
I found out this guy believes this thing and that
and fuck him for that. This was like them trying
to be like, guys, we're all in stuck in the
house together. There's no movies, there's no part like rich

(22:48):
or poor COVID. We're trying not to get it. Guys,
we're gonna beat this thing together by being and we were.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
Like boom, get the fuck.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Out of here, Galgado and fucking justin relate. I kind
of felt bad for them.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I'm like, whoah, they turned on y'all kind of hard
and y'all almost just like hey, we ain't we and
this together?

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Maybe like we are not.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
That kind of thing is so funny because like I'm
very guilty of being like, wow, I wish these famous
people would use their platform. But the truth is just
because some of these people are like good at acting
or singing.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
They are like not smart that politics.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
They're like not as well read as the typical person
who's like I wish people would use their platform.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
It is weird that we feel that way so much
on social media because.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
In a couple of ways.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
First, I think there's a cardinal like agreement, unspoken thing
that like, really attractive people can kind of get by
not having to be the brightest and the best or
to acting.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
All the time, right.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
And like, because we've made excuses, all of us, normal
people have made excuses for beautiful people.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
We were like, yeah, but I mean, like, maybe she
didn't mean it.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Like, and so like people that are at the highest
echelne of that rich famous celebrities, we probably don't want
to know the inner workings of like what they think
about international policies, because it's probably not the most informed.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Just entertain ment, ask. I don't need all these other things.
I just want to enjoy your work.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
But the other part of that too is it's not
that I don't want celebrities to use their platforms.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I just only want them to use it if they
agree with me.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
That's how most people feel.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
That's how most people feel.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
So I'd rather you not I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I know, I'm just saying just why can't you guys
disagree with me all the time on everything?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I just would like that. I think that's very doable
and if you don't.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
I know, the summer, I was really popping off on
social media. I was like complaining about like I know
all these famous comedians and none of you are using
your platform. I was really being a mess, and some
people both started saying stuff and I was like, hmm, like, oh,

(25:07):
I guess this person doesn't really know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, like maybe run it.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Maybe run it by me first, you know, maybe can
I just proof check your statement before you come out
the same thing. And then the other thing too, is
like we find out how many people are just like
uninformed and misinformed, and that's before you get to just
people that are just like assholes.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Right, Like so, because the one.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Of my favorite things back in the day would be
on our show, a celebrity would like fuck up somehow
and then they do like an apology, and then you
just watch people pick the apology apart. It's like, oh shit,
they're done. They don't even know they were done when
they fucked up. They can't get out of this in
any kind of way. So like, yeah, it is. It

(25:56):
is always like a conundrum with us all knowing so
much about each other.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
And it's a catch twenty two because the audience demands
that they know something about you because of social media,
but then they complain that they.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Know too much about you.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Right, just the celebrities don't tell you shit unless they're
selling you shit.

Speaker 6 (26:16):
They complain about how they don't know nothing about them.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
But a lot of times them people have the most
peace because they were like, hey, this.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
Exchange is I my products, and you buy other than that?

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Why am I here?

Speaker 4 (26:26):
So it's like, but the fans complain either way, we
don't know nothing about you.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
A while, I love he kind of respected when they're
just like, listen, I'm out here to get this money.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I'm just not trying to fuck it up in either way.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Right, I'm like, I get it.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
You're like, hey, new perfume, all right, guys, see you
guys in eighteen months, Like the world's not burning when
I have something an album, Hey.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Album's dropping, don't get tour all right, guys.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
I'm gonna pretend I see who won't president, Like I
kind of understand why they do it, but only because
I've seen the worst case scenarios of the people.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
That's like, and that's the thing I'm s I know
nobody knew.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
This because I worked for the Children's Fund Association, But.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Go chump and you're like, no, no, not you.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
And what's even funny is that a lot of these
people that don't really say anything, a lot of times
they do good work, like like kind of under the tail.
A lot of times they don't want to be sometimes
and people harp on them so hard that other people
be like, hey, y'all, shut the hell up, this is
what they've done.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, too far.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Just because you don't know, don't mean they're not doing
anything right.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
When you were talking about other Communians not using that
platform and stuff this summer, what did that look like
for you on social media where you're getting backlash, where
you're getting more attention or comments, people running up on
your public Like what was that?

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Like a lot of people were like, thank you for
saying something.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
That's how I feel.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
But in retrospect, I think I was way too rude.
Well I don't know, I feel mixed about it. I
think I was too rude to a handful of people,
but in general, I think I did a good job
bullying people into.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Hello, do more. What the hell?

Speaker 5 (28:17):
It's like those of us who wish we had, right,
nine hundred thousand followers would be fucking posting this and that,
posting fundraisers right for your five hundred thousand fans to see.
I think how much money you could raise for one
family or one cause or whatever. Right.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
It's interesting too because like, because of social media, we
all had these follower accounts. We can see them, and
so there is like a certain level of like when
someone's bigger than you. I always say that's when they
have a platform.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Like yeah, and nobody knows what the magic number is.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Whatever number, Like I'm sure everybody in their own mind
is like whatever number I have is the number of
account that you're supposed to have because I'm like super cool,
everybody likes what I have to say. But then like
the person that got more than that, it's like, now
this motherfucker right here, though you could be doing better.
I've gotten hit with that on Twitter. When I got

(29:15):
to like what, I forget the number. I stopped counting
after a while, but it was like someone was like
with your platform. I was like, oh what, I I
have a regular job.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
I'm just making jokes. And then I got to go
to work. I got in what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
But but but no, but celebrities people, there are people
that actually you know, they have teams, they have consultants.
They like, these are choices they're making when it is
time to sell something.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's a platform for them.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Then, right, So did when you say you were there
were people that you were like, I was the right
amount of route to them because I bullied them into helping.
Do they come back and say, hey, I appreciate this,
or do they or they're like, I still don't like you,
but I said the right thing.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Leave me alone.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
We're really not chatting.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I guess bullying is bullying, even if it's for good
It's like.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
You pushed me in the nose for good cause.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
But uh, what kind of like now as far as like, uh,
you said most people liked it and stuff, were there
people that didn't like it? Was their comments and stuff
back that way?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Or no?

Speaker 5 (30:28):
I think some of like my friends, like people who
know me in real life, were like, don't act crazy
on social media.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I mean like like you got a couple of those
texts like everything, Okay, do.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I need to come Mary online right now?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Man?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
That is that is sometimes that is a good text, though,
I got I've getting got hit with that a couple
of times, and I'm not gonna lie. The second they
sent it, I was like, no, I'm fine, you son
of a.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Bitch, because you don't want to hear it. The people
need to know what Rod has to say.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
And then like like like a month later, I was like, oh, yeah,
that was a lot of tweets.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Huh, it was a lot in a row.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I probably typically I will tweet about a video game
or a basketball game or something between these. But uh,
but I also feel like Twitter, our Twitch, our instrum,
all this shit's kind of like our diaries now in someway. Yeah,
that's true, Like it's there's no filter between. Like honestly,
it's worse than the diary, right, there's no filter like diary.

(31:34):
You gotta go home, get your journal and your pen
and lay on your stomach and kick your feet up whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, exactly like what happened today.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Yeah, like you said, and to an extent, it's words
because it's like a big black hole, and the whole
goes tell me everything all the time, all the time,
never turn off, cut off your critical thinking skills.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Well, it's just that there's things that.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
You would filter first.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Well, to me, it's just that very there's very little.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Of a delay between me thinking something and being able
to say it to somebody, as opposed to you know,
I mean, I got paid to write jokes. It is
better when I have more time. Is a thing I
have discovered. Sometimes the third draft is the one that
that's really popping. I thought it was the first draft,
but it's not always the first draft. No, but we're

(32:26):
living in like a constant first draft world kind of
for a lot of our stuff. And also not like
a diary. It's like everyone's getting to read the diary
and respond in real time and listen, I'm speaking for
personal experience.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
The diary can get a bit defensive.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Okay, you're not just gonna be talking to me like
just because you disagree or whatever. And then next thing,
you know, it's like I'm going back and forth with people.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
So I do wonder how that's affected us too.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
True, And also I think for me, I've realized as
social media has aged, and we've aged with social media,
and we've seen the ebbs and flows of social media
and what happens to us. A lot more people have
taken their conversations offline.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
So you see people.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Before withst Nope, they go to the group chat or
did they talk because I know for me personally, and
you said this about me and I didn't realize this.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, Karen, Karen tries to act like she's better than
the rest of us.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Not be cause she'll no, don't listen to her right now.
She just knows I'm about to call her out.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
But at some point we'll be talking on the show
or somewhere and she'll be like, well, I'm.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Not gonna let anyone talk. I would not respond. I
would just ignore this.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I would do that, and she'll try to act and
bother and then I have to point out, no, your
Twitter is me. You'll just say what you were gonna
say about those people to me directly. Yes, then you
pretend like you're not bothered around everyone else, but you
were bothered.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yes I was.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
And now I'm fine because you're judging me for just
saying it right to their face on fake Twitter, being like, hey,
fuck you Karen's like, no, I would never stoop to
those levels.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
I would tell you them, Yes, I tell you you directly,
and then I could go on with my life and
they'll never know, and everybody can keep pretending.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
But that's all it is, a big pretend.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah, deciding to reply or not reply to people. I
try to not be defensive and like oh yeah, very
but sometimes I will reply like like are you okay,
or like calm down, Oh, calm down, calm down.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
It's just a video, yeah, Roger just do that. Justin
Timberlake response, which was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh yeah, I forget.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I had it copied and pasted and saved on my
phone at the time. But this is back in my
internet trying to argue out of time days. But whenever
someone replied, I'd be like, oh, sweet child, whatever he
said that one time on Twitter, I just would post
that quote. But I have, ironically, I have found that
replying in good faith can be disarming a lot compared

(35:13):
to but also it's like discernment because like I think, now, yeah,
and because I'm also I've I've seen enough bad faith
stuff that I can be like, no, you don't reply
to this one ry, this person's not they're not serious,
and then they're like uh and also like, I don't

(35:34):
know if you feel this way as like a comedian
writer type, like.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
I can be precious about what I think.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I think I'm more precious about what I think is
funny than I am about sometimes serious shit, like I
don't think it's necessarily a good trade.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I want to translate those things to more serious things.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
But sometimes I'll make a joke and someone does a
tag or something or or messes up the premise or something.
It's like I'm more That's when I feel the like tightening, like, hey, no,
that that joke wouldn't work that way.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
What do you mean No, you.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Don't understand the structure?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, what do you mean? No?

Speaker 6 (36:08):
But yes, yes, and you can't you know.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
So do you feel that comedically or is it more
like politically, socially morally that you get the like the
clap back feeling.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
Hmmm, yeah, I guess sometimes politics stuff, I'll like, there's
so many times I'll like write something out and then
I'll be like, I'm not posting this.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
Yeah I've done that.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
You're not read And I'm like, you know what care,
let's let's close this book.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Did I just take a screenshot, I'll be like if
I still feel this way later ten minutes from now,
and then usually like it'll be later that night and
I'm like, I'm glad it like goes so serious mode today,
Like yeah, it's also like not when I'm trying, I'm
not trying to be like a political commentator.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I want to be funny.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Right right, Yeah, My drafts foldos is full of just
dead arguments that I was like, the problem.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
It's just like I don't need to be posting.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
That, right, Like.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Somewhere when's the flash line in this somewhere in my
mind when I'm writing Somewhere in my mind when I'm
writing that, mister Big Society is like behind the desk
reading my tweet, going, huh, he's.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Right, you know what, has anyone anyone else followed us
right of his prime?

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
He said, I we just if we just stopped being.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Get our act together. Yeah, sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
God, it's me, mister Big Society. Put the president on
the phone. We got to stop all these wars or whatever.
But yeah, I don't I don't know who I'm trying
to convince with this and Uh. I think especially after
the last like election results where it's like we're going
back to Trump. There were so many times I make
like a thread and then I would mute my own

(38:05):
thread and I was like, oh, I don't even want
to know what people have to think about what. I
just wanted to get that out one way and not
get anything back.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
I'm always archiving posts and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I'm like, I was spitting.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
No, I don't want to hear any notes. Okay, I
said what I said, And yeah, you so in your
b in like the bio I was reading about you, uh,
and say, you worked on broad City?

Speaker 1 (38:35):
What did you do on Broad City? Oh?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
I played a character called Coke check Girl. There was
an episode where the girls go to sleep no More,
and so.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
I'm the coach check girl and I'm talking and being
like pains in the ass and I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Do you do girls?

Speaker 2 (39:02):
You do voices and stuff like and characters and stuff
like that too, and like your comedy in general or
just okay.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
I've always been like that.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
People always like pointed out to me, like you're doing
a lot of voices.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I'm like, am I, Well, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
It's uh, you you have such a kind of unassuming
demeanor you're playing like. I feel like if I had
this gift, I just constantly beat other.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Voices and characters like no one would know the real me.
I feel like it's like if I could sing, you know,
I'd be singing like welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Where'd you hone that was?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Were you like a kid and that was a thing
or did you, like, you know, take drama acting classes
anything like that.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
Well I really did not do any like acting or drama.
I think it's just a lot of TV, a lot
of cartoons quoting stuff, yeah, trying to do voices from
the Simpsons or Tommy Pickles or whatever.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Who is your favorite comedian growing up, because I know
it sounds like you lacked a lot of old school comedians.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Oh yeah, yeah. I like Stephen Wright.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
I like Zach Gelfanakis, Steve Martin, Maria Bamford, I love
Kat Williams.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
When I was a.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
Kid, I really liked like cartoon network shows like lab Girl.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Oh yeah, well we were kids, not like now that
we're adults and stuff, we don't I was I was like,
we don't watch any of those things because we're adults.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
With I think I was in my teens and twenties
when Powerpuff Girls all that stuff came out.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah, we watched all that stuff. Uh we still do.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
It's so funny.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Yeah, hilarious. Like a lot of my family and stuff.
They always was telling me as a kid, you're going
to bitch to grow out of it. Like that's what
they would.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Continue to tell me. But it just got worse. You know.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
I found out about anime Dragon ball Z that was
a rep for me. It was like, oh, we got action,
they can fight too.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I also feel like we didn't know how good we
had it with Cartoon Network back then, because like now,
when I look back at those shows, there were shows
I didn't even like that much that they were like classics,
you know, like like someone put Edit and Eddie and
the Chat and I used to be like it was
all right, But I'm like I was staying on, was

(41:31):
staying on Comedy said Cartoon Network, like that was just
my channel.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
I still remember, like I Am Baboon and.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Like Courage the Cowardly Dog, Oh my god, everything going
on with.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
I think his name is Gendy Tartakowski.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Anything he touched.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Everything, he did, was like, I don't even know how
you can be that versatile as an artist to do
like Samurai Jack and Dexter's Laboratory, Right, what the fuck
is your range?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Dude? What what is? What kind of drugs do you do?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
And how could we get that to everyone so he
can live I want to live in your world.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
But he's a genius, you know, Yes, he is such
a genius. He did a cartoon series promo. Some I
brought up promo Pramo. There was no words until the
last episode episode of the first season.

Speaker 6 (42:28):
There was literally no talking.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yes, that's unreal.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I love Yeah, he's a go but what so what
what kind of shows were you liking on Cartoon Network
back in the day.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I mean, if we didn't just name him mom.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Sorry, Yeah, my absolute favorite was Dexter's Laboratory.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Of course I like SpongeBob.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I love SpongeBob.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, Karen love SpongeBob. She was all up on the Nickelodeon.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Yes not Nickelodeon when I was was my jam.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah. It's also interesting too, because like.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
That era of Cartoon Network, they really haven't done much
with that ip. I think it really just only was
good as cartoons because they tried to do like a
live action Powerpuff Girls and they were just like this,
this will not work. It just has to be a cartoon.
And that's there's something beautiful about a medium and an

(43:30):
artist that combined in a way where it's like, oh, no,
you can't rep you just had to live in this
moment in time, you can't make the movie or whatever.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Right, Yeah, we could use less reboots for sure. Else
My dad also showed us a lot of like like
seventies movies like Airplanes, Oh yeah, Monty Python and The
Holy Grail, which I feel like those felt similar to
Dexter's Lab to me, like just like lots of silly, silly,

(44:01):
silly jokes back to back.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, I think I still one of the reasons I
still watch, uh, like, like the show I go to
sleep on every night is probably like American Dad, Oh,
Steve and Smith, Yeah, and I and I like I've
memorized every episode. Karen's now memorized every episode because I
won't stop playing it, you know, and uh like, uh

(44:24):
and so, But I think it's the rhythm of it.
I think it's what you're saying where it's like, oh,
it's almost like the seventies comedy where you know, it's
like the naked gun type, let's get ten jokes in
the next two minutes not and then if five aren't
good and five are good, that was a good two
minutes of my life, you know.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
Yeah, and it feels like antithetical to what like studios
or executives.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Want, Like they want it slow down, they want an
arc and yeah, all these things.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
So it's cool.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Well, they're just mad though.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
It's just like, no, this is just gonna be silly.
It's just gonna be jokes.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
They're just they're just mad.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
Tell us that it needs to be this and that
for people to like it. People will like jokes.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
They're just like, why can't AI do it yet? That's
all they We still got to pay humans to do
this ship dude, because.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
You're gonna have to pay him to rewrite these terrible
ass jokes.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Is gonna We'll pay Ai tol write it. Then we'll
have AI theaters where AI machines laugh at the AI jokes. Guy,
it's gonna be fine.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
God, we joke, but that is what they want.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
It's so fucking stupid.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
They're gonna replace Uh, They're gonna replace test audiences with
just an AI by it like no, the COPU joke
box said this was a night out of ten.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure you're regular people.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Yeah, the humans are wrong. I think we can all
if we learned anything from.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
All the AI movies. In fiction, it is the human
beings who are always wrong, and the robots.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
It's the children who are wrong. Speaking of.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Oh my god, where's his name? That does American Dad?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Oh, Seth McFarlane.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Seth McFarland. I saw him.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
He had a quote recently about like I'm tired of
all these TV shows, comedy TV shows trying to win Emmys, yes,
trying to be like so smart, just do jokes, Just
be like a joke machine, like American Dad.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Well, especially since you don't have a chance because the
Bear is gonna win it, so.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
You might, right, could. I don't respect like comedy, comedy,
don't even get into comedy category.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I feel like the bears this this is the first
year since the Bear has been out. That is not
like the comedy. It's not gonna steal the Comedy Award
for the Emmys or whatever.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
And you're like, well it should have.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I mean it's not that it's a bad show, but
it should have never been in that category.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
Actually crafting jokes, writing squeezing jokes.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
You're like trying to be funny.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Yeah, there's like more pressure to like make a show
that's like, oh, this is technically a comedy.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Just make a comedy.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Just make a comedy. Right.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Also, it said that you know you've worked with uh,
you've worked with ze Way.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Joe Parra, Like what what's that? What have you worked
with them on? And what's that?

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Like? So ze Way before she had her TV show,
she was, I guess, trying to sell a show. So
she had like her baited videos and then she hired
me to make like cartoons of some songs that she
wrote with I forget the name of the girl who

(47:39):
writes her songs. Well anyways, so I made some videos
for her songs. One of them was like a Bloria
a black Dauria, and another one was a blailor Moon's hilarious,
and so she was just like, make whatever you want,

(48:01):
so long as it fits the song. I will say
the Blorio one it ended with the characters throwing a
Molotov cocktail, and she emailed me and she was like,
you can't do that.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
I'm trying to sell a show.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Yeah, so I had to change it to something it's
a good note, less radical.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
It happens every once in a while, you shoot for
the moon.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I remember one song I wrote for this TV show,
Game Theory. It was a sports show, a late night
HBO sports show. It doesn't make a lot of sense,
but there were jokes that we had to write. And
I remember one time we had to write about the Masters,
the golf tournament, which like didn't let black people in

(48:46):
till like ten years ago. But so I was in
my bag roasting this tournament because I mean, like part
of it was about how beautiful and the presentation was.
But I was like, really, like I can't wait for
the part where I get to just talk ship about
them for a couple of pages. And one of the
jokes I had was like the Masters, Uh didn't used

(49:08):
to let black people in and now now even now
they only have like eight black members, and uh, what
is her first Her last name is Rice, Condoleeza Rice.
I was like, it has eight it has eight black
members and Condelliza Rice, and like in the read down.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
For it, like the room cracked up because it's like,
oh man, you can't.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
And then immediately I was like, this can't go in
the show.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
I was like this one were like, I know, who watches.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
That never see the light of day? Ride doesn't let
you know that's funny.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
But no, yeah, it was like you're right, and they're right,
of course.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
I mean that's my militant politics.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Not the show's militant.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
Up running down and we can't do that.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
It's all right.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
These white boomers on the couch are not gonna get
what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
They're not going to get these jokes. And I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I wasn't even the most radical person there. Like I
think I'm kind of just I'm like progressive, but not
like radical.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
One of the writers, the first day I saw him
on this show, Uh, this black dude, he had a
shirt on that said John Brown was right, and it's
John you know the abolitionists that killed those white that's all.
We were like sitting at a meeting and I just
like looked up and saw a shirt and just like
look back down, like okay.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Writing the Golf.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Show, I'm like okay, I'm like, well, my jokes should
make it if his due, you know, like his jokes
don't make it either.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
You say, what a country.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Listen, I'm sure if I wrote anyway you you say
you draw cartoons?

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Is that what I heard? You can animate?

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
How'd you learn like that?

Speaker 5 (50:59):
I too a course in college where we learned after effects,
and I did another course where we learned three D animation.
But I've never had to use that afterwards.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
So often do you use that skill?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
And like, like, I don't know, I feel like that.
Do you use it for yourself or is it like
super duper a lot of work too.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
It's so much work. I haven't done it in a
long time.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Let's see, even before COVID was probably the last time
I was like developing a show idea about a mouse
and a chick who are best friends, and so I
animated all this stuff for it and kind of went nowhere.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
So I now I'd rather just write and then.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Now someone else get animated.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Yeah, yeah, Sebraska did that work?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I guess that is the better part of the jobs.
It is just handing it off. But it is always
cool to be able to have those skills for.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
You still know how to do it for sure.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Like and then also that way.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
You know, when people are bullshiting you, it's like sure,
it's like, oh, that's gonna take six months, and you're
like it's not gonna take six months, all right, right,
I'll take my money back. Just say you don't want
to do it right, Yeah, you can't do it right.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
And then for Joe Para, he had he had his
show on Adult Swim, but before that he had like
they let him do a couple one off specials and
then they were like, okay, now you can have a show.
So I did paintings for them, which is like such
a weird job. Like I had someone ask me like, oh,

(52:46):
are you going to be a painter on any other
TV shows?

Speaker 3 (52:48):
And I was like, that's not a job.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
That's just like a Joe Parah specific thing of this guy.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Actually my job.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
They probably paid for people to do that.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Care's ever the optimist. I think.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I think what're Mary saying is I don't want that
to be my job all the time.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Either, Well I do.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
I do really like it as a job o. This show,
literally every single episode begins with a hand painted title card,
where like the letters the name of the episode is painted,
and then there's images of little things that appear in
the episode, and it's like no other show.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Has that, right, It's so specific, it's like very specific
what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Yes, yeah, and how did like did you just how
do you even get that job?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Like?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Do you apply for it? Know?

Speaker 5 (53:41):
I had been making paintings for money, Like I was
just hustling on social media and saying, hey, I'll.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Paint your pets, I'll paint whatever.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
So I was painting like all the time, every day
and posting on social media these paintings. And so when
he made his show, he was like, huh, Mary, stuff
might fit the look I'm going for. So just totally
random comedy.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Friends thought of me, Wow, you're you seem like such
a hustler. Where are you from? Where are you? Where
were you born?

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I'm from northern New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Okay that makes sense? Yeah, okay, I can see you
got the grind in you. So is it like difficult
now to try to like make it in the entertainment
industry with all the like, first of all, everything's gonna
be one coverage, everything's.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Gonna be one.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
But then also I feel like there's like an antagonistic
vibe towards creatives towards your writers and your actors and
stuff where it's like we don't the big company doesn't
really need you. We need machines that do you, and
we want less of you, and we want episodes that
are six seasons, six or six episodes.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
And versus standard twenty four, which we used to have
a flat standard.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Ye, the mergers are crazy, and there's definitely a crackdown
on speech. Not everyone wants to admit.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
It, but I look at who gets hired, and people
who are too lefty or frankly Muslim don't get hired
a lot compared to people who don't really say anything
about politics or just say very safe. I don't like Trump,
but don't say anything about like war. And like I said,

(55:37):
I animated all this stuff. I've developed shows, I've pitched shows,
and even when I pitched show at that time there
was merger stuff happening where the networks couldn't buy shows,
and like, so now I really just don't have any
faith in that stuff. If someone else makes a show

(55:59):
and they want to hire me as a writer or
a person who makes random painted title cards, right.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Yeah, because but I could see that being a headache,
because like you said, with the mergers.

Speaker 6 (56:09):
You might have had something.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Prior to the merger you merged, that person leads to
get fired and then exact person comes out when they
look and they was like what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (56:17):
No, and you're like.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Oh, and a lot of times yeah, the things you
have to sign in order to even show your stuff
that people can put your your stuff in limbo in perpetuity.
So it's like you get penalized for having an idea
that people wanted to hear about. And then it's like, oh,
different people are in charge now. It's like, cool, I'll

(56:39):
take my idea to go and they're like, no, no,
the idea is.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Yeah, yeah, even if we take it out back and
shoot it, you won't get to do nothing with it.

Speaker 6 (56:47):
And you're like, but y're not gonna do nothing with it.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
There was like nope, it's ours now.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Or they're like you can have it in twenty twenty nine,
don't worry.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Yeah, it'll still be funny. You can pay us for
your stuff back. Yeah, that's another thing they.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
Did so right now, I just don't have faith in
the studios and I just want to make stuff independently
for YouTube and TikTok and just make sure.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
That people can actually see my stuff. I don't want
to be shelved. I don't want to say, oh, I've
made stuff, you haven't seen it, but you know.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
And then also taking things to TikTok or YouTube.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
How is that? Because I feel like.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
One of the good things about the working for a
TV show or something is that, like the feedback's not
really about me. Like even if they had a joke,
they don't really know I wrote the shit, you know
what I mean, Like they had to know me to
be like that joke offended me or whatever.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
And that feels very ride. That feels like you would
say that.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
With it being like now your face on the camera,
your ideas, your words.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
How does the feedback like.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Either emboding, encourage or if it's discouraging or whatever, Like
how does that work for you in your brain?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Well?

Speaker 5 (58:11):
You know, I go to therapy and I journal and stuff,
So I definitely. I mean, like we were saying before
about when celebs try to be real, like I understand
that there's me and there is a persona like the
me that I'm talking to friends or family and saying like, oh,
maving is such a bad day, like, my fans.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Don't see that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
So, yeah, I think it's important to just have a
separate thing and also understand you're not going to be
everyone's cup of tea, right, It's that's the big okay
and normal. If people don't like yourselff, it's totally normal
and fine.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
That was the hard part for me because I was like,
I'm everyone's cup of tea and you guys should always
agree with what I'm saying, and uh, that did not
work work out.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
There was I also did.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Yeah it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Well, years and years ago, I worked at this place
called Seriously TV where we were making comedy videos and
we had so much pressure from our bosses to make
stuff that was like divisive or like baby kind of
you know, and so we would get hate comments, hate messages.

(59:31):
It was so crazy, and so I feel like early
on I had that extreme where I.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Was like, oh, I don't even want to be an actor.
I'd rather just be a writer behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
And I feel like it's taken years in therapy and
journaling to be like, Okay, no, I do kind of
need to be a face in order to be out
there and grow, and that type of thing, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Yeah, if I get crazy comments, that's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I think also.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
That is part of accepting, like because I feel like
that was the final stage of acceptance for me at
Karen doing our pod. Well more for me doing the podcast,
because I, like I said, Karen will just complain to
me straight up. But I had to get to a
place where where it was like, no, everyone, it's just
not everyone's gonna like it, which is such it's it

(01:00:30):
comes from a good place, but it's such an irrational
ego part of the brain to be like, no, I
can please everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I can do it. Just just give me time. I'll
figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
No one needs to ever be upset about anything if
I'm around.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Obviously that's that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
But it was kind of being able to accept like, well, yeah,
it doesn't even mean they're a bad person or whatever.
Sometimes it's just literally like what I'm saying is too
far for whatever fuck you're into. Like whatever you went
through in life got you to the point where you're
your place, and uh, and there's someone underneath you or

(01:01:06):
to the side of you who's also thinking you're your
shit's somewhere too far. Whenever we were getting people complain
about something we did or said on the podcast. I'm
always like, I promise you guys do a podcast. Do it,
just go do it. I just like, this isn't even
like a big I told you so, I'm right, you're wrong.
I'm just saying, try to do what you want me

(01:01:28):
to do, which is always agree with you all the
time and always make the point that's gonna just drive
everything home.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Try it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
It's very hard, and like the goal as an artist,
isn't it to make stuff that like certain fans will
be like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Wow, I feel so seen by this. Holy crap.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
And when you're making something that's so specific, like that,
it's specific.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
It's not for everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
No, is just not.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
And I because I naturally have a very bubbly and
a very happy personality, I had to deal with a
lot of people not really believing that my happiness was
sincere and like like like like coming from like a
genuine I'm just a happy person and a lot of

(01:02:21):
them with like and this is how I had to learn, Okay,
everybody not gonna like you like for me personally, because.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
They will be like, why you're always happy? And I
was like, because I want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
I would like you to be upset at times. That
would be when I'm around. Yes, it's something, it's working.
Just keep talking to me like you're talking. I will
be upset that you're around.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Yes, keep talking like that. So for me, I'm like, okay,
everybody's something. What I realized too is like some people
just don't like your personality no matter what you say
or do anything, it's just something about you that irks them.
Whatever that thing in them is you, you hit that
thing and there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Married let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Do you keep up with like pop culture what we
like what we on this show like to call White
People News, So like what Taylor Swift suppot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Is so funny, you know, do you keep up with
those things at all?

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
A little bit?

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
If stuff is like big enough that like you hear
it on TikTok or threads or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yeah, well, we're having a good time with you, and
we would like to end on a segment that we
call White People News and we're gonna talk about some
pop culture stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Now it has its own theme song. It's twenty two seconds.

Speaker 7 (01:03:36):
I'm ready, all right, here we go, White People News.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
All right, let's see what these white people up to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Pamela Anderson actress, Correct, she is an actress.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
We saw a movie with her in it this year.
Do you know what it was?

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
We did up the Naked Gun.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Wow, karens On, she doesn't normally know these normally.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Be like, who are we talking about today?

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Well, she has broken her silence on the intimate romance
with Liam Neeson. Now yeah, now, if you remember, we
followed this heavily earlier in the year. They did the
movie together, and then for like a week of the
press run, everybody was like, Liam Neeson has finally found

(01:04:39):
love again. And we were very excited for Liam Neeson
because his last wife died tragically on the ski slope and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Like he been a bachelor ever since.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
And it's been like and he's kind of old, you
know what I'm saying, Like he's deceptively old, you know,
just because he killed a bunch of bad guys on screen,
don't mean young. And it was like, man, I hope
Liam Neeson can ever move I find happiness again if
that's the thing he would.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Like to have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
And then they did the movie, which we loved the movie.
We thought it was very funny.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Yeah, because it was that old school joke joke.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
And they were like dating.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
But then like a month later came out like the
dating might have been fake and they weren't ever really dating.
It was all pr studd and I was crushed again.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I was like, damn it, Liam, I trusted you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
I thought this was real.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I already forgave you for the one thing, and now
here you go, this is the most offensive thing you've
ever done. Right well, Pemela Anderson now says that it
was kind of a romance, if you if you must know,
Liam and I were romantically involved for a short while,
but only after we finished filming A consummate professional. I've

(01:05:51):
always said about lim okayish, no grab ass on set. No,
that's not professional. This is a we got an HR department.
I would never and they say, and that's a that's
a rap, and that's a wrap on Frank Dreven.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Okay, now we can make out. She said.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
They spent an intimate week together at his home in
upstate New York. She said, I had my own room,
our assistance both came, and even the family stopped by.
So it was if you just thinking it was some
sort of sordid sexual tryst.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
It was not even like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
They would just enjoying each other's company as older people
are wont to do.

Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
The family came through m that's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Okay, this is why I like white people knew like
normally we became politics right now or something racist or
like whatever. This is, this is this is what I
want to be into. I wish I could do this
every day. The pair went to dinner at a tiny
French restaurant, where he introduced her as the future Missus Nilsen.
They spent time in this garden. What she said, she

(01:06:56):
tended a rose bush overgrown with mint. I was too happy.
I was happy to help and he appreciate.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
It through rose bushes and mint.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Then she said, also during that week, he chased off
a bear from the breakfast window in his bathrobe.

Speaker 6 (01:07:13):
Where do you live?

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
And y'all got bears? I don't know if it's his
movie choices. I believe he can do that. I do too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Yeah, I just spent a whole week last week telling
people leave these fucking bears along.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I don't care if you have a gun. If you
see a sign that says bears, you turn and go
back to where you was from.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
You do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
But if you Liam nice, that sign is not for
Liam Neeson. That's for us, not for everybody but him.
If Liam want to go tell a bear to get
the hell out of here because he got a special
set of skills, I'm with it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
But she said after that they went their separate ways
to work on other films. Then they reconnected while promoting
The Naked Gun over the Summer.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
That's when they was holding hands, cuddling.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Yeah, you know. And this is when it reminded me
if you draw up, if you grew up in drama
class or whatever, drama school, it feels like drama kids.

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
Yeah, very drama.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
It's very like we had we did a play together
and then we gave each other massages. I'm like, that's
not part of drama. That's not part of any other
class at I ever took. This is a massage class.
When were we doing, guys? Why was it so darkened?
Back behind the stage, right right, turn some lights anyway?
So then she said we were having fun a little

(01:08:32):
bit like a Nancy Myers film. Always was laughing when
people thought, oh, that's a publicity stunt. I'm like a
publicity stunt.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
This is real.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
We have real feelings, all right, dor Liam, but we
are better friends and for honesty. And she also said
the last time she saw him was in August when
she was doing a play at the Williamstown Theater Festival.
She was performing in Tennessee Williams Camino Real. She said

(01:09:01):
he came out just to see her.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Oh, just a social boyd Yep, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
A special friends. We'll say.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
We love to see it. We love to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Honestly, this is wholesome news. It's kind of stuff I
like talking about. And why the article chose to use
the picture of her from the set of The Naked
Gun where.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Hair was messed up. But you know, we like to
have fun at people.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Let's see, we'll do a couple more of these white
people news stories.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Keep it light.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
How about I'm assuming it's white people news because they
didn't put a picture of the part. Whoever did this?
In the article? A man was arrested accused of robbing
a liquor store with an antique gun.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Did he have to pull out the back with the powder?

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Antique?

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
What are we talking about here?

Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
You get here with pellets?

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Oh you are don't that's a pellet gun. Probably that's
like a dual gun, you know those dulls.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
Like getting robbed with this, what would you think?

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
A lot of people would even think it was real today,
be like, I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Feel like I'd be like, you should probably sell that
for money. That looks like it's worth something.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Yes, worth a whole lot more than I could give yourself. Hey,
I got twenty dollars cash.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
To shoot me just to see.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
I feel like that ship shoots a steel ball.

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
Yeah, I told you, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
That shoots something that is like worse to die from
than a regular hollow point bullet. Like if you shot
with this, you you're gonna die of sceptsis.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Because it ain't gonna go through you just gonna go,
just just sit in your system.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Right. How did he die? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
He died three weeks later at the getting shot by
a pellet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
He died of consumption.

Speaker 6 (01:10:54):
Yes, because the pelict got in this blood supreme or something.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
You're like, I did better appen consumption. No, people still
thought of that. We didn't either, that's all. We didn't
know how to cure this shit.

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
It's like the kind of thing you put in the
big pipe cleaner.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yes, like if you want to shoot, we all guns
should be like this, honestly, with no more mass shootings.
And then if you want to shoot somebody, that should
take you thirty minutes to load.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
You know what, because if you do that, that man
you met that ship, if you had to load.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Him up to their eyes right, no more running away
from basketball courts for this guy. Nah, you gotta you
gotta take time to get your musket together.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I'm fine. It's like, I'm oh, I don't like what
you said to me. I'm gonna you give stay.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Right there, right there, give me fifteen minutes, like, okay,
give me some all.

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
I think it's rusty, right, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I think if you robbed me with this, I would
be laughing so hard I might get shot that A lot.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Of people would that's what a lot of people would't
even think it was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
A real gun.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
I mean, yeah, I would want to wait and see.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I'm like, this is probably how Christmas addicts got shot.
That's probably a deep cut. But whatever. I feel like
I feel like somebody put out one of these guns.
And then the guy was like, man, that's not a gun.
Shoot that guy over there. Oh it's a gun, Okay,
apparently you you guys don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
To taxation with our representations. I get it, I get it.
There's some tea over there. If you want to kick
it over you get you picked up. When I'm fitting down,
I see what you're doing over there. Uh it happened that?
Uh it got The robbery is at Primos Wine and Spirits.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
Okay, Primos, which.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Honestly sounds like a kind of place you stick up
with a gun like this, Primo's Wine and Spirits.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
It feels oh yeah, someone.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
Your grandma, your pop pop where that's a great question.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
It was the British Revolutionary.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I feel I feel like Primo's Wine and Spirits got
barrels in there, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Yes, yeah yeah, somebody said with a wig, yes wig.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
He's like the red Coats are coming and that's why
I need the money in the register. Uh did you
have to count him out? Confederate dollars? Like what did
you pay him?

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Minute the blues? Okay? Mary is it? Yes? Did he
took the money? And he bent?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
He bent into him first, his boots is up to
his knees too. Him twitter mins and time up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
It's like a parrot on his shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
The man so, they said the man was wearing a
red hoodie and pajama pants. Nothing he had matched. The
gun didn't match the pants, the pants didn't match.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
This. If you're gonna do this, you got you gotta
go full outfit, because what's the point in the in
the pop gun and nothing else matches?

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
This was an improv ribbery.

Speaker 6 (01:13:57):
He was just like, yes, yes, lazy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
I think I think he works for an improv group.
And he was like, all right, guys, what kind of pants.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Am I wearing when I'm robbing this place? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
But you have a pant, somebody say, and what kind
of gun?

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Old Tommy musket?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Okay, I guess, I'm guess I'm robbin Ajuanna spears start.
The man returned a few minutes later, pulled out with
the employees, described as an old Tommy musket. Police say
the man pointed the gun and employees and demanded cash
and their IDs. Now, what ain't you gonna do with
the IDs?

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Why do you need that? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
Now I got to go get me another I d
just take my money.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
He's like, oh, I know where you live now, and
I'm gonna get on my stage coach. And when I
get there, in two to three fortnights. I'm gonna shoot somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
With a pellet ball.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
When me and my horse got up to your front door,
nobody tell the Pinkertons I was here.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Would you would you guys run or what would you do?

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
I mean, okay, I want to believe I comply immediately
because that is the mature thing to do, and I like,
just in case it's real.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
The problem is, I'm not a mature person all the time,
and I wasn't joking earlier. When I do, sincerely worry
that I would laugh and get shot because because the
way my brain works is when things are funny, they
are funny, and then it works backwards into being an adult,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
It's like if someone farted at a funeral. It's like
it has to work backwards in it, Like, no, this
is a crying place, a laughing place.

Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
So I feel like if I would just be like,
there's no way this gun works and then get shot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
That's what I'm saying, you know. Either way, Like my
laugh is my there's no way this is real. That's
what my laugh.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
I'd be like, ha, He's like, that's the pain in
the ass. I just got my idea a couple of
months ago. I'm not doing that again.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Listenpely, these real life I don't even know how you
get another one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
I'm like, you know what, if it's real, I'm not
gonna panic it till you light the fuse on top.

Speaker 6 (01:16:09):
Right, till I see the flame go down on that rope?

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Do you need a light? What the fuck are you
gonna do with that pow?

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
But it was around three twenty five am on Saturday
that they responded to another rivaly at a quick trip.
They searched the area that caught the suspect, identified as
twenty four year old dial in Redfern.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
What's on twenty four?

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:16:37):
You stole that from your great grandpa?

Speaker 7 (01:16:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
That don't make no sense. That's like his inheritance or something.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Yes, it is something. I'm pretty sure you got that gun.
You probably got a whole outfit a few weeks. I'm
pretty sure you got some swords in this collection.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Yeah, like that was will to him or something. You know,
it's great granddaddy gun.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Yes, it was a grandfather's clock in there in a
shoe boxashing cards from World War Two.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
I like, but there's some heart attack in there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
The original heart attack too. He was arrested and written
letter to my dearest MafA, it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Has been many a day since I've felt your sweet embrace. Yeah,
my grandpa was always a poet as well as a
guy with a weird gun.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Police said the gun was likely from the mid eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 6 (01:17:37):
Oh yeah, that was handed down.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
It is a single shot derringer.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Shot.

Speaker 6 (01:17:44):
I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Single shot, So just one bullet. He can't shoot everybody.
So now you gotta Now, you gotta do the man.
Decisions have got to be made. Do I need to
give up? Mighty? You can if we all say we
won't give up.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
By you can't take us all down.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
We're all taking a twenty percent chance that it is us,
but an eighty percent chance that is not us. Oh
my god. So yeah, first degree rivaly f.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
They were like, sir, if you shoot this, you will
never find a replacement parts. We can't fix this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Be like I feel like you shoot that gun and
just falls the pieces because it's like, I'm fucking three
hundred years old, dude, I haven't been old. Guns need
retirement ages. I'm supposed to be on medicare. Yes, I am,
this gun got insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
I haven't been taken care of. They forgot about me.
This gun got health insurance. Not even just any insurance.
It's got health. It's got a very specific type of insurance.
It probably does.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Oh man, that was some good white people news. You know,
I like, I appreciated that, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Okay, uh, let's let's wrap it up with one more.
This is the last one. Charlista on.

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
I know that that's the actress.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
She is an actress. That's correct. She's also an African
American actress because she's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Like, that's true, and I think it may explain this
news article because she's in the news because she posted
a selfie looking younger than ever and she's fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
She was serving face. They say black don't crack, and
I guess African American also does not crack.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Conor on a technicality, yeah, she's she got.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
She just barely got in there, guys, But yeah, so
she They just said she looks great. That was and
that made the news.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Can you imagine being so stunningly attracted You post a
picture the Instagram and somebody that's the right five hundred
words like page did y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
See Mary Selvie. I think I think we have today's edition.

Speaker 6 (01:20:09):
God, yes, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Love the description that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
But like Mary has on a red shirt. It's one
of a kind. You can't even find it anymore. It's like,
and anybody was the price they had to put beside it?
One thousand dollars for the shirt? Yeah, three thousand dollars earring.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Her golden tresses. Words, yes, covering her shit her hair,
that's her shoulders.

Speaker 6 (01:20:27):
That's not five hundred words.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Yeah, we love to.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
See what's so stupid?

Speaker 5 (01:20:31):
Is like it immediately comes to mind to like multiple
news stories like this about other Martha Stewart took a
picture of herself, right, and then it's in the news
for a week or two.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
If you're the person, I wonder is it flattering or offensive?

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
It depends, Like when you take that selfie, they're like, hey,
she actually looks really good? Like whoa, what about all.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
About?

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Actually?

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
What was wrong with my last pictures? Y'all got a
problem with Martha? I gotta put titties in every picture
for the rest of my life. Come on, Gods, it's
getting crazy, But yeah, it is. They like it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
Just seeing a bunch of people tweeting like Wow, I
hope when I'm that age, You're like, hmmm, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Maybe I'll start That's what I'm going to start doing
for my friends on their instagrams. You know, Mike Kaplin
pusts a picture and I'm like, mag Caplin stunts at
forty seven, come on through.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
No one was ready.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
I looked like that at forty right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
I want to stun. What's the right angle? Do I
need lighting? Is it a makeup thing? I just I
want to stun people. Well, Mary, you've been studying with us.
We've had a great time by can you tell oh anytime?
Come back. We'll play more games and yet me talk talking?
Oh yeah yeah. We can only do interview stuff on

(01:21:55):
our first time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
We have a guest just to see what the vibe is,
get their story and then you know, then it's just
pop culture and bullshit, but and politics stuff too, Like
it's it's in between.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
It's like we get mad and then we like diffuse
you know the way.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Tell people where to found you though, like your podcast,
your social media channels.

Speaker 6 (01:22:16):
If you're doing anything stand up?

Speaker 5 (01:22:18):
Yeah, follow me on YouTube, but I need subscribers, come on, subscribe.
It's called the Mary Hula hen Show on YouTube and
it's also available as an audio podcast everywhere else. And
I'm at Mary Hooley on social media, Oh that was you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Okay, I almost tagged you, but then I wasn't sure.
I was like, what if I'm talking tagging a rhythm?

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
And then to Marry who her picture was like the forties,
I was like, that's not that's not this Mary, like
this marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
She had photos that weren't Cepia. Guys, we'll be back
on Saturday for our feedback show. If you're a.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Premium, remember which many of you signed up for our
cell and I guess some of you technically have six
hours left maybe, but if you're a premium, tomorrow we'll
be doing our sports show and just our slice of
life with our friend Justin, so be tapped in for that.
And I have another movie review to give you guys,

(01:23:20):
Wicked for Good. I saw that yesterday with a friend,
so I have to give you guys that review. And
then Thursday, we're gonna probably move our Nerds show to Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Because Friday we're going to a basketball game. So that's
all the our itinerary.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Guys, get your comments and your feedback in for your
nerds out there and your sports people out there, and
we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Until next time, I love you,

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