3197: Laugh with Us

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because Rotten
Karen or.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackout Tills podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm your host Rod, joined us always by my.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Co host Kiaren, and we are her live on a
Monday afternoons.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
We are rush hour time.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
If you're in the Eastern coast, some of y'all are
getting off work.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Maybe you're in your car.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Maybe you just got the audio only on I hope,
I hope so too, not paying too much attention while
you're driving. And of course, the official weapon of the
show is voting and the unofficial sport and bullet ball extreme.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
And we're not here alone.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
No, we are not.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
For those of you who did peek at the screen
or you're listening later and you see the show description,
we have a guest, the first time guest on the show.
Today's guest is a comedian and host of the Laugh
with Me podcast, also a member of the Inflection Network.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Work with iHeart Radio. Uh, it's Jeremy Odin. What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Hey, thanks for having me. When you were saying, hopefully
just listen to audio, I'm like, man, I hope my
face isn't that bad?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Like oh oh no, no, never that only when they're driving. Man,
I just am like, listen, I don't y'all. It's all
let's all keep our eyes on the road. We need
all our listeners making it home, you know, yes safely? Yes, Jeremy,
how long have you been doing this podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Laugh with me?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
So the podcast has been going for almost two years
your half.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Now, congratulations. What was the impetus to start it? Like,
what made you want to get into podcasting?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, I may not. I don't know if you think
I'm looking young or not a lot of people do.
Maybe it's just the red hair jeans. But I'm in
my forties. And when I was in college, I was
in radio communications and that was my like Gosha, and
I left that almost immediately after college just because I
kept getting promoted in the grocery industry and it was

(02:09):
just it was easy for my family, you know. It
was like, all right, I'm not gonna get moved around
and get fired because they want to switch the country
or you know, whatever whatever it is in the radio industry.
And so I went in the grocery industry and I
started running grocery stores, and then podcasting came around, and
I'm like man, I know I could do that. I
know it would be fun. It's something I could do

(02:31):
at home, It's something I could create. The format and
I want to worry about getting fired because the format switched.
I can far myself. I want to, And I always
toiled around in my head. Then in twenty nineteen, I
made the decision to just walk away from grocery altogether.
And takes a lot of the stories that I had

(02:53):
accumulated over the years working with people, working around people
at times again people, uh, you know, I've taken a
pepper spray to the face over a birthday, you know,
things like that. I was like, you know what, tell
these stories very dangerous. Finally do the podcasting thing. So
I jumped in and uh, you know that's been it's been.

(03:16):
It's been a few years now. So yeah, it's been
a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Can you tell us about the cake pip? Yeah, prey
story happened. Happened with that.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
From happy to for Real. So I don't know if
you guys felt the same thing. But like in twenty twenty,
when the world started to shut down a little bit,
you know, we've got COVID and all that. People people
lost their minds, and it was like face to face
with it at the grocery store. I mean people, if

(03:46):
it wasn't because of wearing masks, it was you know,
because of ours operation changing, if it was, you know,
whatever it was, there was something, and they were worked
up about it. And it got to a point where
then over the months of being home a lot or not,
whatever it was, people started to feel very entitled, and
it got to a point that people were just outright

(04:09):
filling grocery carts with the stuff. I mean people are
always choplifting, right, That's always a thing. I mean that's
been dealing with that forever. People were just filling up
carts and then just straight up walking out. I mean literally,
it wasn't even about hiding it anymore. I mean they
would wave on the way out like it was just
a whole thing, and so I would try to stop them,

(04:30):
you know, to an extent. I mean you have to
be safe. And then as things started escalating twenty twenty,
it became very unsafe to levels that we'd never seen before. Well,
this particular one, it was a grocery cart full. There
was a big old birthday cake on top, and this
lady she rolls right out and I'm like, hey, you
know you didn't pay for it. Let's bring the car
back in. She's like, now I'm good, and she starts

(04:53):
to go well, I put my hand on the cart
and I'm like, here's the deal. I'm taking my groceries.
I'm not calling the cops. Just we're not doing this today, right.
She turns around from her purse with pepper spray and
just starts soaking me.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh my god, I'm soaking my face.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Now, I had turned my face because I could see
her pulling something out, so I was like, well, whatever
it is, I don't want to take straight to the face.
I turned my face. She gets all of this, but
at that time, I had longer hair because I was
going through a fase, you know, I had longer hair,
and so it kind of blocked a lot of that
pepper spray. But it was windy out and the wind

(05:32):
was taking my hair and it was just taking that
pepper spray, and I like, give me that cart and
I'm just frying that you know, buck spray. In the end,
she emptied the can. I could still see, so she
knew she was in trouble. So she took off run
into the neighborhood, I got my cart, called the cops.
Was just like, here's the deal. I'm covered in pepper spray,

(05:54):
and I learned that in the process, you know, clean
yourself off or whatever, obviously, but it's the next day
that's the most dangerous because when you wash it again
the next day, it will reactivate. Oh and it will
then get in your ice. I didn't know that. Luckily,

(06:15):
that's I called the police. Because I debated calling the police.
I mean, I'm not fine. She ran away. I'm so
happy I did, because they warned me about it reactivating
and it was the next day.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, I heard you can like put her milk on
your face and your eyes and all that stuff to
help get it out. It's it's so interesting, uh, in
a couple of levels. We watched this show on Hulu
sometimes it's called a Customer Wars. Yes, and all of
this is a collection of videos of just people losing

(06:46):
their fucking minds and shit in like different places whatever, airplanes,
you know, like.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
They have different themes.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Even more it's like travel and then it's like and
they got like you know, snarky announcer guy, you know,
like every day in the United States, four hundred and
seventy five thousand people get on the airplane. But the
amount of videos that are just straight up from the
last like two to three years, and it's like just

(07:15):
that period of the pandemic, like like not even really
before or after. It's just like this was a time
when the world was freaking the fuck out and going
to the grocery store to get your groceries could be
an adventure.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Uh they And suddenly it was and you had to
face that. Yeah, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
People like we would we would have displays in the
front lobby, you know with like two letter pepsi, you know,
they bought the space or whatever. And people were just
taking razor blades and just slicing across. So now it's
just like explosion, a pop everyn you look back and
you're like, what do we do this guy and you
just you watch him go through the store. So just

(07:55):
going through the store, I mean, people were just causing mayhem.
And then like some of them didn't want to wear
a mask. You have to go up to them, Hey,
make sure you put on mask, and then they get
your face like we're gonna do about it. Like, I
mean personally, just tell you, right, I mean, if we
got to take it outside, we can't. I'm just gonna
walk back inside. But I don't want to tell you

(08:16):
this is not worth it.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
And also like the rules because Karen and I worked
like public facing jobs.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
We were waiters. I remember working in.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Uh this place is called the store was called media
Player's out of It, but it was kind of like
a best Buy before best Buy and so I remember
working there for retail for a Christmas and they straight
up told me in the training like, look, if you
see somebody still or something like the alarm goes off,

(08:48):
you can like say something to them, but like if
they like try to bust out the door, just.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Let them go.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
And I was like, okay, uh, you know, like if
that's the job want or whatever. And they were like,
if you do go out the door and confront them
and it gets physical or something, we would we might
fire you.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
We might call the police on you.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I was like, oh shit, well, I'm definitely not gonna
be employee of the month.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
So when you went to.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Stop that grocery cart, where was any of that on
your mind? Like, man, maybe I'll be the one getting
in trouble, even though I'm trying to stop a theft, right.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh yeah, no, that that definitely runs through my mind,
And certainly I would tell my staff, like, we're not
chasing them, you know, go buy the book, do this.
In that particular instance, they had just gotten to the door.
I generally can have an idea of whether or not
they're working with somebody, because sometimes they're working teams. Right,

(09:44):
this one was an instance where it was just the
one person, and I felt good about just grabbing the
cart and just having a conversation. I didn't want to
call the cops, but I would if I had to.
I certainly was caught off guard with the pepper spray can.
I didn't see that guy. But nobody's salt. And it
is in the training now, you know, don't don't go

(10:07):
out the door, don't chase some don't you know, have
any physical contact. I mean, over twenty years ago, we
did have an instance where there was a whole team
of us that would running through the door and chase
the shoplifter into the neighborhood. Damn door. It was a
whole thing. But that was a long time ago. We
certainly wouldn't do anything today.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
When I worked at Media Play.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I remember one time the security i mean the manager
ran out after this is after they instructed me not
to by the way, and he put me He put
me by the door as like some type of deterrent.
But like I you know, the training, I'm not like,
I'm not a real I'm more like a oh that
thing beat uh let me see. Uh okay, the tag

(10:50):
is still on it. Let me go take the tag
off for you. That's really the extent of that job.
But like someone did steal something and he hauled ass
out of the front door, like chasing him like it
was a cop movie, like he was gonna get the suspect,
and he ended up like wrestling with the guy in
the parking lot, and the manager got beat up, and

(11:11):
then he came. And that's one reason why you don't
go out there, right. And then the second reason is
because of my dark humor.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I was just laughing.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
I couldn't stop laughing, Like I was only in college,
and maybe I'm still not sure I couldn't. I could
stop laughing now, but I definitely couldn't at the time.
And I mean I was just making it worse. I
was trying to I was like, wait, did you just
get beat up outside? He's like, we got to call
the police.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I was like, why'd you go out there?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Like you said, we can get fired for that? You
sure you want to call the police and you might
get fired or something.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
He's like to be on the record. Man, it was
just so funny.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
But yeah it is, but it's so heatd the moment too,
Like it's not the training and all that stuff. It
sounds good on paper because or on the video because
the video's perfect, right the.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Videos, Hey, I'm stealing this thing. No you're not. Okay,
I'll put it back. Sorry, you know, but that's not
how it.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
By the way, they have never said, oh you got
me and.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Then yeah, you know, I said, my bad, I'll put
this back on the shelf. And the thing is, you're
talking about people and customers doing COVID. I remember when
things kind of started reopening back up because me and
Rockie State shut in for a while. So it probably
was like twenty twenty one, like after the vaccine vaccines

(12:34):
came out, we started kind of slowly going to places.
But when we did, we ate outside. You know what
I'm saying, and things like that, and I didn't realize
how bad it was until everywhere we went, all the
people that served us was like, oh my gosh, y'all
so patient. Like we would go to places and they
would like give us shit for free because they.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Was like, we're not taking crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
We weren't being any different than we normally were, right,
we were like before or after the pandemic. Were you know,
you're patient. You know the puzsy worked in the certain time.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
So we understand, like I around it, but I owed
they're booked or they do it like I can kind
of observe and see.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, I think a lot of stuff drove people a
little crazy. When we got our vaccinations for COVID, like
and we still keep up with them.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
We still like get them every year or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
But even this year, which is I mean it's five
years after the pandemic, but I mean after whatever you want,
but it's five years later since the vaccines came out,
and the guy this year was thinking us it was like,
oh my god, you don't know how crazy people can
give about this vaccine stuff. I was like, still like yeah,

(13:44):
because like either they get it or they don't. Like
who's fucking coming in the grocery store to argue with
you about vaccines in twenty twenty five, man, that ship
is sealed and complain because.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
It's never changed. It's just moved on and that's the
way it is now.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yes, and it was.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
It was while having that conversation with their pharmacist because
I was just saying common sense stuff. I was like yeah,
because at first we went and they was like, you
can get your We can get one shot because we
do our flu in COVID shot at the same time.
Because I was like, I'm not making two appointments and
so they was like, well you can get one. They

(14:20):
was like you can get both. Were like you we
can get both with so we said yeah, let's let's
do this. And I was like, well, just because you
get the flu shot don't mean you won't catch the flu.
And that dude looked at me like, oh my gosh.
I don't know how many times I told people that,
like like.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, or it was covid, but yeah, it's the same.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
It works both both vaccines are the saying yeah, you
can be vaccinated, you can still get it, you might
not get as sick as the plan. And he's just
like listening to us, like we're like, what who fucking
sent y'all?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Like, this is a this is a trick that nobody
believes this. Everybody nobody believes me when I tell them that.
It don't mean you won't get sick. It just means
you're getting less sick.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
As a you guys got a different mental download than
the rest of Yeah, the firmware updated, it doesn't work.
I got it, I got sick.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's like, okay, all right, I'm like, man, what news
shows I'll be watching? Also, uh, I remember the other
thing I discovered when I worked at media Play and
now I was in like lost Prevention or whatever for
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
They also write off so much of the shop insurance.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I think it's called like shrinkage or something, so like
they haven't insured, Like so I was extra like, oh,
I'm not dying from Media Plays, Beatles Collection, Christmas cit
Like what the fuck, y'all, I'm.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
A dying and y'all gonna write the ship out. That's
fucked up. Man.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, I will say it's not every company, but a
lot of those bigger companies, like the ones the grocery
stores I was working for, they were self insured so
as much as that stuff was getting covered, a lot
of it wasn't and it was just coming out to
the bottom line and as the store managed, or it
did impact right going after some of those shoplifters for

(16:07):
some things, was did have some personal gain there because
I was looking out for my paycheck right now. I
don't want my team doing that. It does not impact them.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's still that's so weird that the incentives are set
up that way. Like, that's so weird. Did they set
up the incentives that way to be like it comes
you know, it's gonna about it's gonna affect your numbers
as a manager, because I know when I was a waiter,
some some companies would do this thing where like if

(16:35):
someone dies and dash, they try to take it out
of your check, or if someone breaks it like you
drop dishes and they're like, you need to pay for that,
And I was like, that just feels like the cost
of business. That's like, that doesn't feel like a me
personal failing.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
That shouldn't impact you. That's just then trying to pass.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
The Yeah, that's just trying to pass the expense.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
And the other thing you reminded me of I just
recently watched this movie called Eddington. We're North Carolina film critics,
so like we got these screeners for all these movies
and stuff at the end of the year to watch
the to just that's.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
The one with the little British bear right.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Now, that's Paddington. Yeah, I heard that's good.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I haven't done. I haven't seen that. I heard that's
I heard that's Flamestyle. But Eddington has uh Pedro Bascal,
Joaquin Phoenix. Yeah, the cast is crazy, but it's it's
essentially just a movie about how crazy everybody got during

(17:39):
the pandemic, and it's uncomfortable to watch because it's not
that long ago, like like like they have all the
stuff you're talking about, like like the guys going to
this grocery store and being like, I ain't gotta wear
no mask, I can't breathe, and I'm just like this
is is this triggering me?

Speaker 5 (17:58):
What the fuck is Like?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's this bothering to me?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, Like it's like it's not like it's weird to say,
but like if I watched like a civil rights film
from like the sixties or something like, well.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
That was a long time ago, you know, people were
different or whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
You know, maybe not as different as it feels today,
but still like you can like put it like this
is in black and white.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
This shit was like, nah, that was Tuesday that people
was acting like that. They were acting the food yesterday.
Also with the I say you saw you say you're
a comedian as well.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
How were you doing comedy as well as working in
the grocery industry or is that something you started afterwards?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
So it was something that started afterwards. So in twenty
nineteen when I left, because I was working for this
company from the time I was fourteen, so it was
like twenty years of service. And when I walked away,
I was like, I need to do something different. I'm
gonna I'm going to start to create this podcast and
kind of see where that goes. So I started the
process of creating it. But at the same time, I've

(19:01):
always liked the idea of being able to go on
stage and do something. You know, In high school, I
was in this is like nerdy, but I was in debate,
and I really I didn't so much enjoy the research
and the homework side of debate as much as I
enjoyed the competing and the being in front and just

(19:23):
talking and battling head to head with somebody. I really
enjoyed that, and I was like, well, I could take
some of these stories and maybe I can take that
to the stage and make people laugh. I really enjoyed
making people laugh, and so yeah, I started. So that
was right then, right at the beginning of twenty twenty,
and I started to kind of learn what that's like
and see what that looks like, and then see how

(19:44):
I could parlay that into the podcast and just kind
of go from there.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
We were you the funny guy at work or like, like,
did you have any inclination to be like, yeah, this
is what's next for me.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I want to talk and make people for a living. No,
I was.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
I was certainly the funny guy work. I would when
I was growing up. This was obviously before I was
the boss, but when I was growing up and you know,
working in like dairy. Some nights I'd have to go
work produce, and I'd be like, you know, what's messed
up that that that Dave gets to go to dairy.
I like dairy and I'm in produce. So I would
go into the dairy cooler and I would just like

(20:25):
hang like a bag of potatoes or something from the
middle of the cooler and he would you know, so
I guess today people would think that's threatening, but I
just thought it was funny, right, And so he would
walk in and he would see the bag of potatoes
and be like, oh, Jeremy, or I would park a cart,
you know, lodge them into the cooler door and just

(20:45):
try to help do something, and he's stock. I don't know.
It was just always trying to you know, take a
block of dry ice when somebody's doing like dishes in
the three compartments sink and drop it in their water
and suddenly there's just smoke everywhere from the dry eyes
like that. When I when I was up front checking,
this was before I was old enough to ring up

(21:06):
alcohol for customers. You know, you'd have to page the
manager and you would just you get on there and
you just say, like, you know, Tom to register six
for nineteen, because you had to be nineteen to ring
up alcohol. And I would go on there and I'd
be like nineteen to register and I would just hold
I would just pause for a good fifteen twenty seconds,

(21:28):
which is a lifetime on the yes it is, and
say say where they needed to go. I don't know,
just thotle things like that.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
But meanwhile, the customer is probably sweating bullets, like what
does this mean?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
What does that call me? Why is it taking them
so long to do? I just want my alcohol.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah. What I learned in that process was what's funny
to me? Is it funny to everybody? Oh?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, I mean absolutely travel error.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
You know, I had to kind of evolved that quite
a bit, but uh so, yeah, no, that's just kind
of I guess a few examples.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Of Yeah, I used to when I would play back when,
back before the pandemic, when everybody was playing basketball together.
I used to play basketball a lot, like four or
five times a week, and you know, between games, when
you're sitting, you know, you're making jokes, busting you know whatever,
You're just talking shit, and everyone saw somebody be like, man,

(22:22):
you a comedian or something. I'm just like, nah, I'm
working logistics. I'm like, maybe this is a hint I
should be trying to do something with this. People keep
asking me that. But the other thing, too, is when
you got into comedy, were there was there any crossover

(22:44):
between like people that knew you as grocery guy and
then people going, oh I saw him at the comedy club,
or I saw I heard this podcast or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Actually, what I had was people started to hear that
I was, you know, out and uh hitting and doing shows,
and they started to get nervous. If if they knew
me from the grocery side, they were like, well, is
he gonna bring up a story about me? And say
like right. So then the people I worked with were like, oh,

(23:17):
I don't want to go there and then get roasted
or something like. I would would hear that from some people,
and I'm like, guys, you're good, Like I'm not here
to bring anybody down. I'm here to make people laugh,
and if you were going to be part of the show,
I certainly want to tell you that, you know, right.
So they started getting nervous. I don't know if they
were just what.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
You know what I blame I blame. I blame uh
social media with.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
When the crowd work stuff started going too viral and
so it started looking like you go to comedy shows
and then they just ask you about you or whatever,
which is not true, Like it happens a little bit,
but not Yeah, it's not like some you walk in
the room and now everybody's up fair game. Like most
comedy comedians planned a set. They have a bunch of

(24:06):
jokes they've been working on. They got a bunch of
shit they like to do that has nothing to do
the agenda. Most like, whatever crowd work they are doing
is mostly just to like show you guys, I'm live
and I'm present.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
This is real comedy that's happening now.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
But but like I really do wonder if, like when
we were all stuck in the house, everyone's looking at
their phones. They're like, I'm not going to comedy club.
Matt Rife's gonna fucking ask me if I'm cheating on
my wife.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
No, thanks, right, that.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
You nailed it, because crowd work is so fun to
watch online. It's just, you know, it's so fun for
you to just grab somebody and be like, oh yeah,
blah blah blah. But it's so not part of the
show at all. And it's hard, right, And Matt Rife
has made a whole career of it, which is kudos
to him, but it's just so.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Not the bit so yeah, and it's and it's hard
I think too, because like I remember watching Matt rice
first Netflix Dance UH Special after he had gone so
viral for CrowdWork, and in it he wasn't doing that
much CrowdWork.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
And the response, you know, a lot of the responses
like what the fuck you mad, like like I don't
even like these jokes?

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Like was he?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
And I was like, oh, because because you can't plan
crowd work, like.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
You can't likeeous.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, like he would have basically had to be taking
a huge risk with his special to be like, I
hope some funny people are here tonight that uh, I'm
willing to put on, put in into the world forever
trapped in this one hour of a special. I was like, nah,
he's gonna go back to try to do some jokes now.
Unfortunately for him, there were people that are like, I'm
not here for the jokes.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
So he's catching it both ways.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
That you know, you got the CrowdWork people that are
mad that he's not doing CrowdWork, and then you got
the people that are like I thought he would be
doing like a different type of material that he's doing.
But yeah, I think social media really changed like comedy
for a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
I do too, and I think it it made it
difficult for all parties involved, because, like you say, it's
gotta be for the audience member. You go, I come
to a comedy club. I didn't come to be pick
quote unquote picked on because a lot of people look
at crowd work as you directly picking on them versus
you actually being in on the joke.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
And also, when you do.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
CrowdWork, everybody not funny, so you as a comedian has
to have to have to work around non funny people
sometimes and turn it into funny. Which is which is
a talent.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, which brings me to the title of your podcast,
laugh with Me, which is it feels like the w
is even though it's lowercase, but it's emphasized. Yes, shot
proprogrammar but it feels it's like, I'm not doing this
show to just like shit on everybody else. It's like,
let's have a good time, let's find what we find funny.

(26:59):
What was the the impetus behind, you know, using that
as the podcast format.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Well, as you can see, I've got red hair, and
so I've grown up with I guess a thick skin
because I've had a lot of people with a lot
of jokes that they've had themselves about me for no
other reason than just maybe I look a little different, right,
And that's the start of it. And then I'm also

(27:26):
just this little skinny, nerdy, you know kid. So there
was all these things you grow up with. Everybody has
their their story, right, Mine was that. And as I
was getting older, and then I wanted to make people
like laugh. It was like, man, I've never enjoyed people
laughing at me because that sucks, and I want my
kids to grow up not feeling that way. Right, And

(27:50):
it's like, but I love it when they laugh with me.
Like that's a community, Like, that's that's fun, and that's
something that can spread, and that's something that we can
all really not embrace, but really can relate to. You know,
we've been in that room with our friends or family
and just laugh together and have the best time. Yeah,
that's the environment I wanted.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
And there's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
There's a beautiful thing that happens when you laugh together,
which is that even when you're laughing at me, we're
laughing together at me, you know what I mean. Like
the trust. I always say, like trust is the hardest
part of comedy, of pretty much of even podcasts and everything.
Like trust is what you build with your audience and

(28:34):
stuff because you want them to have a level of
like leeway, like letting you experiment, letting you cook. It's
the difference between like going to a comedy club or
watching a set on social media or something.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Right Like in the comedy.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Club, we all have agreed we spend our money to
hopefully laugh. We know you're gonna try to make us laugh,
and that is the undercurrent of this whole thing. It
might not work out, but that what we agreed to
is we trust you enough to give you our money
to go make me laugh.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
And I think.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Even in situations like this where like like you said,
you're you grew up your red head, your skinny people.
I grew up nerd glasses, all that stuff. Karen got
the super country accent, you know. But if we all
kind of having fun together, it's like, oh yeah, when
you make a joke about my accent, that's not that's

(29:29):
not gonna hurt me the way that it would hurt
me if you just walked up to me on the street.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
And was just like what's up with your accent? Or
it's like whoa fuck you?

Speaker 2 (29:37):
So like I definitely feel you on that. I think
that's such a great vibe of laughing with me. And
I think it's a choice to say that now, because
I think a lot of there's a come of divide
in like all these media spaces, especially under the aspices
of comedy, where it's like some people have staked there,
you know, put a stake in the ground of like, no,

(29:57):
I want to be able to pick on people. That's
the real freedom speech is fucking telling people how, you know,
offensive shit and they better not say nothing back, and
I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Getting mad and what like. It's kind of dope to
to say, nah, that's not what we're doing over here.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, And the folks that are doing that, who are saying,
you know, my style comedies is just the pick on people.
I hope the people who do go to those shows
have fun, right because they know what they're getting themselves into.
Like you were just saying, you know, you know what
the deal is, but at the same time, you just

(30:32):
you never know what people are well. Also, that's like
the hardest.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Thing for those comedians.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think the hardest thing for people to understand outside
of that is like in their spaces, those people are
funny to those crowds because there is an understanding of like, oh, no,
you're gonna do this thing.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
What really changed comedy was the rest of us all
getting to know stuff that we weren't in the room for.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
So Like I remember the first big controversy I remember
from social media was Tosh point zero Daniel toje. He
did like a set and then someone basically like typed
his set out and posted it on the internet, like
look at this shit, and everybody's.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
Like, fuck this guy, No one should ever go watch
this stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
And I was like, in the room, everyone knows he's joke.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Like that what you just wrote as an essay, that's
not the same you had, Like he gave a ted talk,
like he got up there. It was like, my name
is Daniel Tosh, and I have some very serious things
to say that.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
And I was like, oh, this has changed everything forever.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
And now it's almost like your throwback comedian if you're
not playing to the social media audience like you kind
of almost it's almost become the job for a lot
of people to you got to have something to put
on the Internet. There's very few comics who are like, man,
all I do is just show up to the club,

(31:57):
do my thing, and go home.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
It's like, unless you like super rich. Yes, very like
you can't afford to be that kind of comedian anymore. Yeah,
And it's also flipped because.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Ahead I said, it's also flipped because years ago, when
the Internet first started, people like, don't put your stuff
out there, you're gonna like like like it almost went
from one extreme to the other, if that makes sense,
because at one period of time, it was so coveted
you your jokes, you don't want to waste them.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
They're precious to you.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
To now the crowd work thing came in because people
didn't want to put their jokes out there like like that.
I really think that's why crowd work went through the
roof and they go, yeah, I'm doing forty five minutes
to an hour, but what I'm gonna give you is
the jokes.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
This not on the set, right yep.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
And that was I was just about to say that
was you used to never put anything out there until
you were gonna put you know, present your hour or
half hour on comedy Scent or something. And then now
it's if I do a set tonight, if I don't
have a clip from that, you know for tomorrow, was
it worth it? You know?

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Did I do it?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Enow to help the fan base then and and that's
just how it is today.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah, man, a dude.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Same thing with podcasting. When podcasts started, it was audio only,
Like Karen, Karen and I were just doing like this
thing you'll uploaded to the internet.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
People listen to it. They don't even know what you
look like. Yeah, we got jokes.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
But when we first got a sound boll when we
first started doing videos and things like that.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
First taken first started taking calls on the air and
having guests, like I remember all that, like we were
rigging that ship. That was not none of this ship
was designed to do what it does.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
No, now it's seamless, it's in the computer.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
You got apps nowhere.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
You know, you take a phone put you know, put
put it by the by the mic, and.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Hopefully y'all can get a voice. Yeah, but it is
it's the old way.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Do you miss the excitement of we got to figure
it out. I do think different things talking.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Sometimes, Like I mean, obviously I like the ease of stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Now I'm I'm still not really here for video podcasting,
but just recognize it's something you kind of have to do.
I kind of And maybe that's the purest in me
where it's just like that's kind of fucked up that
like video just comes in.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
It's like, now, this is what a podcast?

Speaker 5 (34:12):
It's like, No, that's not I liked.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
It better when these were called vlogs or whatever the
fuck we were calling them before. But okay, that's I'm
not gonna fight. I'm not gonna be old man fighting change.
But but yeah, it's been interesting to watch it all change.
What I what it was cool was and I'm pretty
sure we were among the first, even if we weren't
the first, but we were among the first people to

(34:37):
kind of figure some of this stuff out, like being able.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
To record with a guest who wasn't in your studio.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
We had on the phone via Skype, and we just
had this thing rigged to record so many different ways.
Those things were like fun and those like we were
definitely building the plane because we started to show like
sixteen years ago, so we were like building up. Yeah,
like they didn't have a thing for We were just

(35:08):
like we would just re racking our brains, like I
think there's a wane Yeah, if we take a blue
snowball mic and then we use our computer speakers that
come with the monitor. We turn it up just right
so it's not not feedback, but it's not going to like,
but the audience should be able to hear it. Later
we might be able to do something with that. And

(35:29):
then every once in a while you know it works
and you're like, oh shit, we did it.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
And also what I realized too, they're pluses and minuses.
I think the one of the biggest pluses about when
we started you had to learn some of the fundamental
things about podcasting, Like you had to know what the
RSS feed like, you had to like you just had
to know certain things.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
And now it's easy, which is good.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
But if something happens and people have to kind of
go to the fundamentals, they have to pay oh.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, there's certain like that, there are certain things nobody
can take from us because literally we started.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
It, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
So like there's podcast it's funny to be in such
an old podcast, but like listening to people come into
the game and you know, like all things, it becomes
work and people complain about work.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's just life.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
But sometimes people complaining and they're like, oh god, this
is just so hard, or man, do I even want
to do this today? And I'm like, Okay, you have
a team, you have a marketing department. You guys have
like a somebody who was like setting up your equipment.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
All you did was walk in the studio.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
You can't fake it for an hour that you're like,
people are waiting to hear what you have to say
for what one time a week, not even like you're
doing this shit every day. You can't just be like, man,
listen for an hour, Hey, how's it going. I'm doing
a project. And it was like, so like on those
levels I think have being old being old school does

(37:02):
kind of like affect the way we view things, but
it can also mean that sometimes we're behind the curve
because it's like, hey, guys, we're putting clips on social
media now.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
I'm like, I don't do that ship.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
That's not it's not how we did.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
A kid when I was growing up hollering at the
clouds because it took us for ever to get on YouTube,
because that was like get on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I was old.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
That was me. I was like, that's not a goddamn podcast.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
What do we doing?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Your kids in your tickety texts and your face and
your face bounds or.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Whatever the fuck your tickety talks, but it took us
a while we made.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
I also saw in your podcast you talked about doing
a roast battle. Now as a laugh with me person,
how is it possible to do a roast battle and
how do you keep your feelings from being destroyed? Because
I've seen some of these roast battles out on the
streets and I ain't got it in me man.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, So that that's interesting. That's actually a good question
because it's a complete opposite a lot of just said.
But the thing is, the roast battle is such an
art and there's it's a style of comedy that is
strictly meant to entertain with no feelings to be hurt.
So I want like bring bring the heat, you know,

(38:18):
bring the cutthroat. Like as long as the audience laughs
or whoa or whatever it is gets an emotion to
some type, we did our job, and we shake hands,
we move off. Now, this particular, this was my first
roast battle. I'd never done before. I'd always wanted to
do it, and it was like a tournament. And this
particular one, I thought because my show was everyone knew

(38:41):
me from my podcast, but it was like it was
kind of wholesome ish. So I thought funny if I
came up with some jokes that weren't necessarily like over
the top, like oh man, you're you know your your
mom's this and she did this to last night, you
know type stuff. It was just more like the guy

(39:04):
was bald and I had just gotten a fresh haircut,
and I was gonna make a joke about how he's
never gonna look this good because you know, blah blah blah, right,
And I thought that would be awkwardly funny, and that
fired hard. I'll just tell you that right now. I
learned so much from that. What did work in my

(39:27):
favor is I got paired up with somebody who was
almost just as bland. But it wasn't on purpose, I
don't think. So it ended up being like an awkward
round that the host just had the best time with.
So I was like, all right, we all did our job.
Everybody had fun, you know whatever. And I learned maybe
I should just go in there with like a little

(39:49):
more of an edge, and next time I will. But
as far as like feelings hurt on that one, it's
it's the art and it'd be to me, it's no
different than if I'm in a or a show and
I'm acting and somebody's trying to choke me out. We're performing, right,
But uh, well, is it? It was a lot of fun?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Was it people you knew? Or were these like people
you were meeting for the first time that night?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
So the guy I was facing I had met for
the first time, But a lot of the other folks
that were in the tournament I had knew from the
comedy scene, so I had known them. But yeah, this
guy I had met for the first time that night. Actually,
as soon as I walked in, I went and introduced
myself just so I kind of had an idea of
his vibe, right and just if what I had written

(40:34):
was was ready and he had just a stack of jokes.
So he was an old vet And I'm like, oh man,
this maybe this wasn't the.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Way would you would you rather have been?

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Actually?

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Would you rather have been matched that with someone you
did know?

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Like?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Would you like?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Even though obviously is more awkward, but it also means
you have more ammunition and you all are there together
to so it's not like you're blindsiding these people. But
it's like if you know somebody's like you have better
you roast the ones you love.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, oh yeah, I would have. I would have come
in hard like I would have. I would have come
in harder. I feel somebody I knew just because one
I know, they could take it into the jokes were easier, yeat,
because I've got the life experience with them.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
In college, I used to wrap like like every black
person from every black man who was born after nineteen
seventy eight. I used to rap, and I remember after
I got out of school, like I was like taking
it a little serious, not very seriously, but I was like,
I think I'm gonna really play around with some of these,

(41:40):
like instrumentals and maybe like I knew a guy who
at a studio in his house and he's like, i'll
let you record here.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
I was like, okay, Yeah. So I had a friend Mario,
who I.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Know he's been listened to the podcast lately, so he'll
know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
But we were like, hey, man, what if we write raps.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Where we're beef and we're in each other, we're friends,
where it's not gonna be too serious. And then uh,
I just remember when I was writing it, I was
so like yeah, everything about him. I'm just gonna like
I don't give a fuck. I'm just like I am
going to try to hurt his feelings, like this is
I'm and lucky for me, he's like such a stand

(42:21):
up dude that like he really meant it when he
was like, nah, you should like he was encouraging me
because I was like, I don't know, man, now I'm
thinking about it. I started writing and I don't want
to say these things about you. He's like, no, please
do you should definitely say. I don't even remember if
he roasted me back or whatever. I think I think
he did, but his was so much more friendly than mine.

(42:42):
I was like making jokes about him dropping out of school,
like it was so fucking it was so fucked up.
But but but he, uh, he loved it because he's
just that kind of guy. He's the kind of guy that.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
You play a fighting video game with.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
He will molly wop you if he can't, like he
wants to destroy you, and and and it's all a
good time afterwards.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
But man, that was like such a thing.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
But it reminds me of this, right, this like idea
of like no this wrap the roast battle is essentially
it would almost be disrespectful to be like, no, no, no,
I'm not gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I don't want to hurt your feelings.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
You know, yeah, no, you got you gotta bring the heat.
And that's that was the thing that I learned and
took from it the most was maybe, but there is
like a trend now of I think they're called like
friendly battles or whatever, and it's like who could bring
the best compliments and like a humor and like come
at him, you.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Know, in that regard, I think I would rather do that,
you know, I would rather do that because I got
like I got the evel inside of me a little
bit and people don't know it. They don't because you know,
because I do a good job of maintaining that shit
I don't people not supposed to know, you know, like
I'm I'm I'm sociable, but like that, sometimes you go

(44:07):
down the dark path and it's like you don't realize
until lady like that was out of it. That was
I remember one time we were I was playing basketball.
This kid on our team and my friend Justin was
uh and me and Justin very similar dark humor all
this stuff, But I was very mad because we lost
this game, and it was because this kid, Tripp fucked up,

(44:27):
like he shot this terrible fucking shot the end of
game and I was so mad and he was and
he was apologetic, which should have been enough for me
to be like, Okay, you know what, you fucked up.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
We all fuck up.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
I've done the same thing before. What am I even
so angry about? But I remember I remember being like, man,
you fucking sucked.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Don't like, stay the fuck off my team, blahlah blah.
And it just is like, hey, man, that's Trip Man.
What are you doing.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
That's like that's our friend or whatever. And I was like, okay,
he lives or dies and everybody know. Everybody at the
side was like, oh no. I was like, okay, that's
that was too far.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
That was.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
I like, I like, when got some water came back,
it was like, I apologize. That was out of control.
I don't even know who that was right there? Where
did that evil come from? And that's you know, so
I worry about that was.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
The competitive Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I worry man, about that ship going too far and
I can't take it back.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Yo. That's why for me, I have I have filters
that kind of always go off because a lot of
times the first thing that comes in your brain you
don't always want to say it out loud, like filter filter, filter,
filter filter. Okay, I can say this.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Version of it now. From listening to your podcast, it
sounds like you're also a bit of a sports fan.
Oh yeah, who's your Who's your NFL team?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
The Chargers?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh man, the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I grew up in San Diego or ocean side near
San Diego. My dad is marine, and so I grew
up like a Chargers fan, Padres fan. And then they're
they're originally from Central Iowa. So when I was like
elementary school, we moved back.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
And so I've lived I've lived in Nebraska, you know,
for the majority of my life now, but I still
have that like hometown. So Charger, how did.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
You feel seeing Philip Rivers get off the couch and
come play for the the Colts this weekend? Because I
know he was a longtime Charger and he kind of
lost that game in Philip Rivers old school fashion, like
he did like last second comeback, but too much time
on the clock to like, oh here here comes the

(46:48):
inevitable Philip Rivers lost, So like, well, was it nostalgic
for you?

Speaker 3 (46:56):
It was? It was actually was funny because my my
son's like, oh, you won't believe what Phil did on
his first pass. And I'm like, what they threw a pick?
But it did for us for a how mine? And
uh he was no, no, no, it was it was completed.
He's like, all right, all right, and then uh, but no,
he had just signed the summer a one day deal
to retire Charger and then he's just like puts his

(47:20):
hand up, y'all, I'll come play with you guys, Like,
what do.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
You he was up for?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
If I'm not mistaken, I believe he would have been
up for Hall of Fame this year. Ye and I
think right.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
And then the other thing, now y'all get that up
to start the clock all over.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
He has to start over.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
And if I'm not mistaken, that's when like you're like
retirement or some type of weird like there's like a
money thing too to it, like, okay, you you've been
out of leave for five years. This is when Blank
starts health caresel He pushed all that back five years
to go play for the Colts, uh on a week's

(47:57):
notice and start by the way like it wasn't they
had a backup quarterback and they were just like that
guy feel bad for because they were I do too,
you know what we were thinking.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
The first day of practice there was word that those
two were getting at each other, and I'm like, well, yeah, yeah,
that backup quarterback I'm getting a field too, feels there
to play. I mean, he can come off the couch
to not play.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
And it's gotta suck too, because like Phil got the
big joker in that conversation, like you can't win that
battle as a as the guy on the team already
who's like, no, I should be starting because it feels
like they called me from the couch.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
There's no way they feel confident that you should be playing.
I was eating chips. Okay, I'm just gonna let you
know what.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
You were talking about. With the insurance, it is. It's
a big deal for him because it was like he
would lose his insurance benefits at the end of the year,
the season or something. He's got ten kids.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yes, it was gonna be.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Like a forty five hundred dollars a month charge or
something for him. It made a lot of sets financially
for him to come back. Yeah, that's it just didn't Yeah,
it just didn't make a lot of sense in the
grand scheme of the forty four coming off the couch.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
I think Serena Williams did something similar this year.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
She made a joke about it, but she was like,
I'm she played in like the US Open because she
was just like, hey, you know, get that tennis insurance back.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
That's some good insurance. I was like, maybe that's what
Phil's doing.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Feels like, shit, I'll go out there throw a couple
of picks if y'all. Y'all, y'all paying my insurance these
kids is expensive.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Well yeah, and it's he's a he's a high school
football coach now head coach, and you get to see
his team, you know, having their watch party and cheering
on phills. He throws a touchdown. There was a lot
of cool stories. It's going to be a movie someday,
That's what I said.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Well, you know what, Yeah, what he just did was.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Taylor made to be a movie. Is incredible and that
was cool to see him.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
The other part that's cool about it, too, is old
quarterback are kind of having a resurgence. Man Like a
lot of these quarterbacks that are doing well now, all
guys that people kind of gave up on Sam darn Old,
people gave up on Daniel Jones, who Philip Rivers a
place they gave up on. I still remember when people

(50:14):
gave up on Matt Stafford, you know, and now everybody's
like MVP, so like you can get old and still
like kind of maybe throw something together. And he's coming
into a situation where they already had won a bunch
of games, so he just needs to like get them
to the end of the season. I don't know, Stranger

(50:35):
things have happened. That's why we watch sports. I would
love to see Philip Rivers like finally come up big
and like the most improbable shit ever, just the Disney
movie type of shit.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I'd love to see that. That would be a.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Great ending to this season, since like Patrick Mahomes is
out and Lamar Jackson and them looked terrible. Josh Allen
is still great, but his team isn't great, you know
what I mean, Like, so like I don't know why
not feel.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, I'm one hundred behind you if it wasn't for
the fact that my Chargers are right they are and
it's gonna end up being Colts Chargers in the playoffs,
and Phil's gonna beat us, and it's gonna be the
most Charger thing that's ever happened, because that's that's what happened.
I mean, that's just it's what we do. And then
I'm gonna have to watch Phil go in a super Bowl,

(51:26):
which is so great. Like you said, it's gonna hurt
so bad, man.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, that would that would absolutely that would be crushing
if that was the way that happened for y'all. And
then I feel like the Chargers just keep having the
same season anyway. I feel like every year you can
just pencil the Chargers in for the exact same results
and they're just gonna bring back everyone anyway, back, bring

(51:52):
the quarterback back, Let's just do this thing again.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
One one year is gonna break lucky.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
This might be the year because so many people that
are dominant at the top are starting to fall off.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
So maybe this is justin Herber's year.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
But man, it's just I feel like there's a weird
type of purgatory in the NFL that, like you guys
are in, the Steelers are in, where it's like these
are good teams and we're Panthers fans. So everything that
you guys are sick of is like what we would
like cut our right arm off that had.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
You know, And I have a love and I understand,
but I would love to be like I can pencil
in make it to the wild called, I can pencil
in we gonna at least win you know, nine or
ten games.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Like like like I can just pencil that in.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Yeah, for me, I would be like, go Panthers, like,
you know, we don't know what we're gonna get, like,
we don't.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I love you guys at least had the cam newtoneers
and true you had your you had your Super Bowl run.
Give me one. I thought, just give me one super
Bowl run. I was so young when we played the
Super Bowl against the forty nine Ers in nineteen ninety four.
Like I remember being excited for watching the game. I
also remember being just so crushed when we got annihilated.

(53:11):
But it's like you think back then, well we'll be
back and it's gonna be awesome, and then here we are.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
It's hard to get back many.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Years old, and we never been backed right, And I
just that's why I tell my son I'm like, man,
when we do get there someday, just enjoy every second
of that because you don't know when the next one's coming.
And you guys are great examples of that. What a
run with Cam Newton and you had one Super Bowl appearance,
and you would think you would have had.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
We actual had too, we had you had Jake Delone
lo fuck the Patriots, of course, yep, but we lost
of the Patriots by three or whatever. This is like
the worst, but it is better to have had that
run and lost than the you know then, like you said,

(54:01):
to just never have it. But man, it's just so
funny how sports is because every year only one team
can win the Super Bowl. That's all just one, and
so there's just like thirty there's like thirty one or
twenty nine miserable other teams that are.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
Just like, oh fuck, what are we gonna do next year?

Speaker 2 (54:18):
And it feels like being a fan, you can get
stuck in this place of like not really enjoying being
a fan anymore.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
So I like we're able to, at least with Karen
and I.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
One of the things I love about Karen is that
we're able to just kind of enjoy being fans, like
just the experience of like, oh, like we're Hornets fans.
We're not winning shit, but it's like we go to
we're season take.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Holders to go to the games.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
We have a good time, we get to see all
the best players and shit, and it's like, yes, there's
something about that that I don't ever want to take
for granted because when I was a kid, I watched
these people on TV and stuff I couldn't afford to
go or you know, you parents scrape together enough.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Money to go to one or two games a season tickets, Yeah,
up at the top.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
So I'm still like, I think people are weirded out
about how appreciative we are of it, but like, that's
why I love about sports.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
It took me a long time to get to that
point because I used to take at all every loss,
every so like to heart. And then at some point
it's probably what my son's port, honestly, when I'm just
like that poor kid, he's going through all this, you know,
as a fan. But then it started to like change
my mindset. I'm like, you know what, I got to
look out for him?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Did you make him a Chargers fan?

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Joy the moment? Yeah, what do you guys? Think of
Ryan Kaulfbranner.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Oh man, I love Ryan Cockblayn or Dog like that,
although I do worry that he's too sad, like I
don't know, I don't know that he's sad, but like
he don't really get jubilant ever, like he's like I
like that he's even killed like he's because he's such
a star wart, like he's not afraid to get dunked on,
which means he gets a lot of blocks because people

(55:59):
keep trying them, like, h I'll just block that too,
and he doesn't get discouraged or whatever. But at the
same time, like I haven't, I don't. I don't think
I've ever seen him do a fist pump. I don't
think he's ever got mad. Like he's just one way
all the time.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Yeah. So I live in Omaha where Creighton University is,
and so we would We've been watching Ryan for four years,
you know, home games and Creighton and uh, he's incredible.
But yeah, you don't get any it's just level. You
don't get too excited, too high, too low. Uh we
did see you know something like this, Yeah, that's it something.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
But he and like he'd be dunking on people he
has like one of the highest field goal percentages in
the league.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
He dunks some.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
People and he's still don't be like, there's not It's
just like, that's two points.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I'll be back on the defensive side.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Now.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
I wonder if that's he just moves on to their personality,
because you know, some people's personalities might be like that
or I want.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
I don't know that man had a kid.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
He had a kid this year.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Even then, he was still kind of like he was
still mad, chill about it. I'm like, Okay.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Tonight he's gonna really be And he had a great
game that night that he played after his kid was
born too, like yeah, double double and ship And I
remember being like, Okay, after the game, he's gonna turn up.
I mean his baby was born. It's like no, no,
He's like, I'm tired of baby, been crying all night.
Maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
He just sleep the prime man. I've been up with
my pregnant.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Wife him a little bit and get something.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Oh so, because ball is fun, Like we got some
fun guys on the team. I even like Kan. Kan
is such a fiery guy to me too. He's very professional,
but he's having fun out there. He takes it personal.
Ryan's like, I don't.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Take anything personal.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Karen, You're gonna say something I about to say. I
actually really do.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
I like con I like the whole team. I think
when Roger just talking about like enjoying the game, I
just love basketball. So for me, a lot of times
it's mixed because I know I posted to my team,
but I'm not gonna lie if like Lebron or Joker
or somebody else going off, I'm like, oh, I'm just I'm.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
Like, I'm like, oh, well, goddamn you.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
That's why you want to That's why you want to
go to games.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
We watched Joker two Saturdays of God thing and they
beat us, and it was a pretty close game. But
in the fourth quarter, every time he touched the ball,
he made something good happen, and by the end, I
was just maniacally laughing.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
I was just it was like every time they hit
the shot, be like, what can you do? What can
you do?

Speaker 2 (58:47):
It's like he was hitting jumpers over a carp. Brenner,
who's seven feet tall, had his arm up. It's just
like he's pulling the ball behind his head like that's
three points.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
Anyway, then I'm gonna run back was down the court.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
All right, No, look past this guy in the corner.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
No one news open, all right, anyway, Well, I guess
I want to go home and look at my horses
on my zoom right or whatever.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Okay, that was amazing.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
He loves his horses more than anything. Incredible. Every basketball
is a job, not a passion for him.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yes, it's a job, right, And I'm at this point
it's like I don't know if it's an act that
got out of control and now it's become real, or
if it's just like it's real and I and I
and it's so he's so focused on the horses and
going home that I feel like it's an act. But
whatever's happening, it's some real, like Daniel day Lewis shit

(59:40):
that he's doing, because like it'll be after a game,
it's like, no one's ever scored fifty points, twenty rebounds
and thirteen assists before.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
What you think about that?

Speaker 2 (59:48):
He's like, oh, we missed a couple open jumpers and uh,
you know, I really can't wait to get home and
look at my horses.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (59:57):
What?

Speaker 5 (59:58):
There are people in this lead who have dedicated their
entire lives to just be better than you, and they can't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
They ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Like, Man, no, I can't wait to get off at
five thirty so I can drive home.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Can I clock out?

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
But nah, I've been enjoying the NBA this year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
He clocks out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the league's fun. I
just love greatness, and you're seeing a lot of the greats. Man,
It's incredible. I mean, there's just something about seeing greatness
that can take over this. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
This past weekend they had the nd season Tournament, like
one of the rounds of that, and it was Oklahoma
City Thunder, who legitimately might win the most games ever
in a season.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Like I've I've been alive with Michael Jordan. I've been
alive for that Warriors team.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
I feel like I've never seen no shit like this,
because like their second best player wasn't even playing the
first twenty games and they lost one game. I was
just like, well, what the fuck when he comes back,
what are they gonna do? And then Shae Gills Alexander
who's an MVP, doesn't even play most of the fourth
quarters because they're up so much. So I'm like this
team is just they're gonna make the season born because

(01:01:15):
they're gonna whoop everyone's ass except Victor Winbinyama, who's seven
foot seven and just a fucking like you know, basketball
uh savant and alien. Apparently he fucking hates them and
he just took it upon himself to come back from
injury and be like, this is enough of this bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I watched that game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
In the first half, he was on a minutes restriction,
so he couldn't play like as many as he nor does.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
He played seven minutes in the first half. He had
a plus.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Twenty plus twenty, which means for y'all that are sports
laymen that aren't you know, into the game. His team
when he was on the court was twenty points better
than the other team, which is the best team in
the league.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
And he was only in the tech game for seven
minutes in the first half and he did that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
I feel like this league is in such a fun place,
and my overaartching theory is this, it feels fun because
Jason Tatum is hurt and he's not playing for the Celtics.
Last year, this time, everyone just kept talking about how
there were too many threes being shot in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Right, And I was like, man, I'm watching these games.
These games are fun, They're like too many threes. Who
wants to watch the NBA? I want to watch it
till Christmas?

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
This sucks. And I realized something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
No one's talking like that this year because Jason Tatum's
hurt and the Celtics aren't that good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
I think people just hate the Celtics.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
I could see that, yeah, that complaining about Yeah, And honestly,
the thing is the stat boys.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
I come to the stat boys.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
The people who really don't care about the game just
been like, statistically, dzel what you supposed to do. The
Celtics did that, like they did all the math.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
But there's something so soulless about basketball where you're like,
you know what, we realize threes are worth for than
twos and if we just shoot nothing but those will.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Win the game.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
It's like, uh, yes, that is technically correct, but also
it's like if you play a fighting game and a
guy just keeps sweeping your legs, Like, technically, you're right,
you can sweep my leg a million times and I
won't be able to beat you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
But don't you want to do something else. Don't you
want to like shoot a fire ball?

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
Everyone's while Nope.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Yeah, And as somebody who likes that's I'm like, you know,
you live by the three, you die by the three.
I've seen people just shoot themselves completely out the game
because my brain.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I'm like, y'all know twus count.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
To but it's math.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
But it's math, is what I'm saying. It doesn't matter
how you feel about it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
It's like that shit don't make no sense. Y'all gonna
literally lose a game cause y'all fuse shoot twos.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
They've done.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Yeah, they've just done the math, and they know for
a fact that that eventually the math will always be
on their side. And yes they will have some off
nights and lose, but more nights than not does has
hit a bunch of fucking threes and it won't really
be fun and they'll beat the ship out of your
team and suddenly they're not. Jason Tatum's hurt and now

(01:04:17):
no one's talking about threes. I looked it up yesterday
that because I was like, am I bugging? Everybody is
shooting just as many threes as there they're like one
step below last year, meaning threes haven't changed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
They have not just the Celtics, aren't you know, in
our lives anymore? And it feels good. I hate to say.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Coming out and the I mean I love that energy. Yeah,
more best players on teams being like I hate those past. Yes,
I'm gonna beat them. Give me more.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Like pure sports hate.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
It's part Jordan's like that's era I love.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
It's pure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
It's pure sports hate.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
And he's in the other part of it is he
does for some reason, he chosen not to like Chet
on the other team, which I don't know what started that,
but he don't like that dude for some reason. So
like they have the player he hates the most, then
they're the team he doesn't like the most, and he's
possibly the best player in the league right now. And
it's pure sports hate. So it's not like any no

(01:05:21):
one's gonna like, you know, fighting, They're not going on
Twitter and fight like it's just when we play basketball,
I would like to destroy you. And there's something so
healthy about It's like a roast battle. It's something healthy
about the fact that they can do that and then
go back home and be like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
All right, that was work. Yeah, And also as a fan,
of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
I think sometimes, particularly this era right now is a
really special era. But you have so many grumpy and
angry NBA players that they don't realize how special this
era is. Players, the era, the NBA era. The reason
why I said the era is because you have Lebron
that in his career.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Oh no, you said you have so many NBA players'
NBA fans.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
I'm sorry, Oh, NBA fans that don't appreciate the special
era that we're in because we have so many players
that are like you're sixteen, you're seventeen years like so
so so soon, some of these players are gonna be
stepping down and you're getting to have a rise of layers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
People are aging different. Steph Curry scored eighty seven points
over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
What the fuck? Like you're old? You're not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
When I when I was a kid, people that were
his age were like going on a tour of the
league for their last like like you know, it was
it was Robert Parrish being like, hey, kareem, I do jabar,
Like hey buy me a motorcycle or whatever, you know,
thanks thanks for.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
The years, cap or whatever. Like now, motherfuckers is like
I'm gonna bust.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
Your ass, young boy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Sir, you're forty five, you gonna still take this ass?
Whooping take this three?

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
But yeah, I've been enjoying it, man, and we've enjoyed
you as well.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Bainly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Do appreciate you coming through jerremy man and tell people
like where to find you, uh you know, if you
got if you're doing any stand up, where to come
come out to get you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
I didn't even hear what what city are you in
right now?

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
I'm in Omaha, Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Okay, shout out to Nebraska, Omaha. That's what Peyton mann
it says before he hikes the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Oh yeah, go big bread. Yeah No. Find me at
basically all the socials at Laugh with Me, Pop, Laugh
with Me podcast, and then on my Twitter hand also
at j O from Nebraska. You can hear me every
week on the Laugh with Me podcast and also a
wt L Where's the Line. It's a sports betting podcast

(01:07:42):
out of Nebraska that we do as well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
So oh, shout out, shout out to that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Yeah. I'll have some stand up dates coming out soon
that will be on the socials.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Are you good at betting?

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Are y'all keeping track?

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Of your bets and then or do you just do
like uh on TV where they just forget, like they
don't tell you, like last week we kind of sucked.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
They're just like, oh no, no, tonight, I know for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
I'll tell you what we've been doing. Every week, we've
been doing a segment of player props and I have
been on fire with these player props, which has been fun.
For example, Joe Flacco, we were talking about old ass quarterbacks. Yeah, comeback.
One of our props this this one this season, was
that he would have a rushing touchdown. No, he hadn't

(01:08:29):
had a rushing touchdown since like two thousand and fourteen
or something. It had been like seven years. It may
have been further than that. It was some stupid stat
but with the way the offense was running in Cincinnati
and what they needed, it just it was gonna happen.
It's sure enough it did and it was just it's
little things like that. Man, this year it has been odd,

(01:08:50):
but an NFL props we have been on fires.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Could you imagine worth What would the eyes have been?

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
What would the eyes have been on a prop that
that was like like Philip Rivers will complete one past
this season like a million to one, like like no
one saw that ship coming. All of us are surprisedly.
They're like, the Coats are calling in no chance, right,

(01:09:18):
I feel like on ESPN And when they read it
off the telepront they're like, and the Coats are calling
in Philip Rivers.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
They shot that they complete the sentence that can't be right,
looking like.

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
Are you are you sure?

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Team?

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Everybody's going yep.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Yeah, why not? Peyton Manning? Then I mean, fuck it
all right, man, make sure you guys check out the show.
Laugh with me. Like I said, we listened to it.
Very fun, very nice to meet you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
We definitely have to come back and then kick it again.
We can play some games.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Yeah, and tomorrow will be live at seven and we'll
have Mike Kaplan on tomorrow. So be looking forward to
that album people that watch it live and uh yeah,
until next time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I love you, I love you too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
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