BDS 569: The Unserious All-Stars (Bonus Episode)

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(00:48):
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(03:41):
the homie justin What's going on?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Jay Trill and Karen is also here as well, What's
going on? Killer Murder King? Great. We started, as always
with feedback, which I'm sure will lead into many articles,
and we'll move on that way. Lenner Brothers wrote in
last week he wrote an email, not a comment on
the website, so I forgot the copy and pasted over

(04:05):
my bad brother. So this might seem a little old,
he said, YO, is this thing gone? Can y'all hear
me out there? What up? Niggas? I sent y'all an
email about the Hornets a few weeks ago, but you
never read it on the show. I don't even think
I saw that one. That might went to spam. I
don't remember that one LB Sorry was it? Because in
the same email I said, Lebron is my man, but

(04:26):
I have him as the second best player all time
and that the Lakers should start building around Luca. I
guess that kind of talk is frowned upon around these parts, Huh.
I don't think so. I mean that's I would not
frown upon that. I'm a Lebron fan, probably the biggest one,
you know, But I know you're a bit of an antagonist,
Like that's part of what motivates you with certain things.

(04:47):
So like, it's not that you can love Nas you
have to also shit on jay Z. You know you
can't love Jordan, you gotta shit on Lebron. I'm not
really built the same way in that way, meaning I'm
cool with loving Lebron and Mike, Like that's cool with me.
I'm cool with loving Nas and j So I would

(05:09):
not read your email because of that. You know, hopefully
it's just jokes, but I would. I wouldn't. I just
literally didn't see it because I have been saying on
this show they should build around Luca and not Lebron,
that I think Lebron would say that. I don't. I
don't think there's an argument against building around Luca. My
main point was that it was a stupid argument in

(05:30):
the first place. The Lakers should always be trying to
win the championship. I don't even understand what the fuck
how is this? Like it felt like a fake problem
created by the media and our obsession with Lebron James.
Cause it's if anyone else had that roster and you
could put any name on it, the Hornets, the Kings,

(05:54):
the Spurs, if you had the exact same roster, and
then you told me what we're gonna do is not
make any real moves to improve the team until twenty
twenty seven, everybody in their right mind be like, you're
fucking stupid, You're fired, And especially now that y'all i've
seen Shreddit Luca, why the fuck aren't you trying to
make everything you can make happen happen so he can

(06:18):
win this year? You want him to win MVP, you
want to win finals MVP, and you want him to
run a ring if you're doing the job with any
level of common fucking sense, So yeah, unless you're a
fucking idiot, I don't know how anybody is looking at
that Lakers team like we'll get him in twenty twenty seven.

(06:40):
That's a that this is a non problem.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
You want to wait till Lebron might might retire, right.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well that's done. Well. When he's off the team, you
I promise you whoever you do think you can get
when Lebron's off the time team, because y'all don't lot
most people don't really understand the way caps salary works anyway,
Meaning when Lebron leaves, it's not like the Lakers will
get fifty million dollars to go spend however they want.
They will just go like, well, they'll be like five

(07:15):
million under the cap or something like. It's not like
his money is not going to because they have second apron.
You have the first apron. It's not just gonna bring
them down to like suddenly we're fifty million dollars under
the cap. Let's go out and get Luca. All this help.
Then the second thing you gotta understand under this new
salary cap, niggas ain't leaving. Everybody re upping, and they

(07:38):
not just reupping, they re upping early. So we ain't
seeing player movement. The fact that this off season has
been pretty much crickets and we're still wondering what's up
with restricted free agents and it's almost August. It's almost August.
Jonathan Kaminga is still a Warrior that was a dude

(07:58):
that the whole season of last shit was we don't
know where he's gonna end up, but it won't be
with the Warriors because they don't want him and he
don't want.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
To be there, and they might be there.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
The money is so fucked up in this market with
all the rules and restrictions. They both looking at each
other like, damn, I might end up being here. What
the fuck? So, yeah, this idea that you just letting
Lebron go.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, I'm about to hit him with a Mark Lawrence proposal?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Are you happy? Yes? Yet?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Matter of fact, let's do that story now. Kaminga rejected
a two year, forty five million dollar offer from the Warriors,
and the reason he rejected it is because the teams
that are interested in him as a restricted free agent
are willing to pay him way more than that. The

(08:51):
Phoenix Suns were gonna make a trade to get him
and pay him ninety million dollars twice as much, and
the Warriors is like, but what if you just stay
here for forty five and he was like, fuck, no,
y'all don't even want me here. Y'all just want me
to sign that deal. So you can trade me at
some other point. I just want to go, and they're like,

(09:12):
what in fuck you? You ain't getting no deal. We
just gonna offer you to qualifying seven point nine million
dollars and you just come here and play one more year.
Shitty as it's been, but we just gonna run it back. Crazy,
that's the market, and people are like, yeah, let Lebron
go and then get Luca some help. Nigga, what helps.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
It's wild that people also think like, well, since we
stuck together, you just gotta take whatever, and it's like, right, no,
I don't have to sign and keep.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
And also keep in mind, like if Lebron leaves and
you now have you know X amount of minutes whatever time,
you still have other guys on the team, you're gonna
want to pay you still You'll got to extend Luca now,
So like, you better hope Luca is looking at this like,
let me get in there and sign my extensi as

(10:07):
soon as possible, cause what if you start fucking around,
you get halfway through the season, Lebron ain't traded nowhere,
Luca ain't signed his extension, and you end up in
a market where you don't have Lebron or Luca right now,
See if they don't be on Rob Polinka Dick. I
got a feeling they gonna not be, you know what
I mean. So yeah, it could get ugly. And the

(10:31):
whole idea of well, we'll just wait till Jannis wants
to leave. I don't know how any of y'all can
feel comfortable that Yannis wants to leave. Only people keep
telling me Yannis want to leave is media people. Every
time Jannis opened his mouth, he sound pretty happy. It's
like the way people and I don't mean it's a disrespect,
it's the way people treat Giannis. When they see his wife, well,

(10:51):
they be like, that's who he that's his wife. This
nigga has thirty seven kids with that woman. He in
love and he happy. He don't give up fuck what
y'all think. He is not walking out his house. They
concerned with what people on Twitter say about his wife
versus the other quote unquote baddies. He's like, y'all ain't

(11:12):
never gonna think my wife find because every time you
see it, she gonna be pregnant, she gonna be big
as a house, and y'all ain't never gonna get it.
But I promise you I do get it, and I'm
the only one that's got to so the idea that
he's leaving Milwaukee. I just need to see more evidence
than just because we say so because it looks good
in the trade machine. If you bank everything on him

(11:33):
leaving Milwaukee and then you don't get him and you
don't have Lebron and you and Luca hasn't resigned, this
will be the biggest bag fumble in Lakers history. So
they should be building to win now, regardless of building
around Luca or building around Lebron. That shit is moved.
You build around winning, and then the rest will take
care of herself.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
And Luca clearly has experienced the business end of the NBA.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
You'll get a.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Resigned lookal who say trade me, get the fuck up
out of here and start acting like other people we
know who won off teams.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, you never know. You just never know. That's why
you're playing for today. You don't, like you said, he
could wake up in February. He could have already signed
an extension and still be like, I want the fuck
out of here. We don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Look at how y'all acting. This is this how y'all
trying to build a team around me. That's what y'all think,
building around me? Look like two years.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Crazy man, right.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
And also you're talking about somebody who was shocked, and
I personally think what's going through emotional roller coaster and
all these things. And it went from and I've been
like this, oh, my job is enjoyable to oh, this
is like the business job, like, oh, this is the
job job. Oh, y'all don't give a fuck about me.

(12:55):
And for a lot of people, once that switch flips,
I'm really cold. And they don't do the calculation to
everybody think they're gonna do because they're like no, no, no, no, no,
you about yours. So I'm about mine. And if I'm
not happy, I'm leaving. I'm not staying just.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Because anyway, that one is old news now And since then,
the Hornets have won the Summer League Championship. As a
fairly new Hornets fan, it's been a few years, it's
great to see them starting to change the culture here
in Charlotte. I like what I've seen from them since
the draft. Hopefully the good vibes from the winning in
Vegas will continue in the training camp and into the season.
Hopefully I can get out there this year to check

(13:30):
out a game. Moms has been a huge Luca fan
since he was traded, so we can make it happen.
It will be dope to see him play the Lakers
when they come to town. I'm very excited for the
season tickets and that Lakers game. I know they always say, like,
sell your Lakers game tickets and so you can pay
for the rest not I'm gonna go see Lebron and

(13:51):
Luca if they still together, and definitely see Luca because
I feel like I have not seen him play but
once or twice.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
And they've been for the math.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I hope the team is good and competitive too,
because I want to see these teams play their best
players and have to exert some effort to beat us.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
He says that if that does happen, I'll holler at
y'all maybe we can link up while I'm there for show.
Oh one last thing, just in this our time, Clay
Thompson pull Meg the Stallion, light skinned niggas are up.
Latest holler.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Out of style mm hmm other than Jason tatle.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Other than Jason Hm.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Y'all just don't like him.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
No, I mean, that's what style is. That's what style is.
Other people liking you or not.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Liking commercials, commercials say he's still in style.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm with you, you know me, I don't care. Mary says,
not much sports happening, but that shouldn't stop this sports show.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
So sports show the longest shows.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
They really, they really do for no reason. I don't
give a funk about sports.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Fucks sports, right, But yeah, uh so, Rod and Karen,
you know, I root for the Hornets after my Lakers,
and LaMelo is from La so I checked for him.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
But what the hell is that tattoo? Is he too silly?
Which leads me to my question, is he an unserious
All Star? I thought there's some others out there, Nick
young Land, Stevenson. I was thinking Gilbert, but he kind
of gets in real trouble again. Who might be to
go unseerious All Stars? So here's the problem with the
LaMelo thing. The I don't know if y'all saw it,

(15:44):
but there was like a LaMelo got a tattoo. This
tattoo artist that has done his other work put up
a picture on uh on social media that claim was
LaMelo low ball and he was like we finally got him.
Y'all just finished doing this his legs to day, he

(16:06):
got cheat toes and I'll put the picture on the screen.
See I can see what the cheat toes look like.
But it's like this, like it's a foot with flaming
hot Cheetos on the toes. And he later went on
to say he was joking that was not real and

(16:31):
that that was you know, like I was just trolling Mellow.
But he posted a picture of Mellow's leg earlier that
was like, I did do his legs leeve, but Mellow
had on socks in that picture, which made me be like,
so is he hiding the cheet toes? And he really
did get them, But then he was like, they fined
me too hard. Take that off the socials or what

(16:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
And not tying funny. If you get work like that,
don't it don't look like you don't be using your
feet too much.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Would you. Well, so the thing for me that stood
out was those feet didn't look like basketball player feet.
That was the thing that I so like. I know
a lot of people think Mello silly, and I can't
put it past him. I don't think it's crazy. I
wouldn't think it was crazy if he did it. For
the record, I just think we're old and stupid and

(17:22):
fuddy duddies now right, Yeah, But I think these like
will never really relate to like a young, flamboyant guy
who has the confidence and abilities of LaMelo ball like he.
This is the problem with kind of our market. We
don't really know how to appreciate somebody being a star.

(17:43):
And at the same time, because our market is so
like our team has been so bad, he won't get
the credit of like, hey man, he's just a fucking star.
Like when WM we cut all his hair off this
this nobody was like, is he serious? He's hanging out
with monks in the offseason, He's cutting his fucking hair off.

(18:04):
Is this guy even trying to win? What is he doing?
The Spurs have never had a winning record with him
on the team. He was hurt with a blood clot
and now he's fucking not in the gym, not training
with the basketball team. He's in the mountains of Tibet
with monks. This guy needs to grow up. None of
us is gonna say that. He shoots the most weird, long,

(18:26):
fucking three pointers for a guy that's that tall, and
none of us thinks those are necessarily good shots. We
just are like, wow, I can't believe he can do it.
He's not shooting a high percentage of them, meaning he's
not hitting a lot of them, and yet nobody says
it's womb be playing a serious basketball game. None of
us thinks that, right, LaMelo shoot a one foot it
don't matter if it go in or not. That's silly.

(18:47):
That's not serious winning basketball. So it is like some
biases that are happening because it's our market. But also
I think, like, to me, when players do shit like this,
it made me excited because I'll be like, maybe he
a star, Like this is star ship. This is the
kind of ship that is weird. And it's like when
Kobe started fucking rapping in Italian and wearing a weird

(19:08):
head scarves and you're like, he did, I forgot about that.
You're like, this is mad, corny, But it's the kind
of ship that you that that people that are better
than other people think they can get away with. So
I just hope he plays enough to back up. I
don't know if this is real, but if he has cheetes,
I hope he plays well enough to pull off his
fucking shoes on us and be like, yeah, I do

(19:29):
got the cheet toes and I'm busting y'all ass out
here with these cheetoes. That would be.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Hilarious even if it's not real. I'm surprised he was like, hey, bro,
take it down, just because we know on Twitter between
him and his brother and the other NBA player that
used to that played with Giannis, that used to play
in Washington.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
I can't remember his name now, that played with the
Lakers at the time, Jordan.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh, No, Kyle Kuzma.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, Kyle Kuzma.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
They would flame and joke each other and just have
jokes in a good time. But I think that's the
other reason they do put him as unserious because of
like the wrestling thing and all the other stuff. But
I think once he wins, that'll go away. They won't
look at him as unseious. They'll be like, oh, he
in the playoffs first round.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
But still yeah, no, it's literally that simple. They were
picking on Detroit a year ago. I still remember how
much they were going in on Detroit as a franchise organization,
as players, and then they had that year last year
everyone was healthy for the most part, they made the playoffs,
and now it's like the ceiling is the roof, you know,

(20:40):
so winning is gonna be the only cure. But like
I said, this is one of those things where like
it's an old man take the whole, Like LaMelo doesn't
play serious winning basketball. How many games you watch? None?
But when I see him having highlights, he looks like
he's having too much fun. Well, I remember when Steph
Curry started shooting threes from five feet behind the line

(21:03):
and everybody was like, why doesn't he just fucking step
into the three? Yep? And then and then he just
kept doing it to the point where you, like, knowing
on Earth can stop that. And I've been fortunate enough
to see LaMelo win healthy. That the what the fuckness
that of of like what he makes defensive have to

(21:23):
think when he's on one and he just hitting those
shots that you can't you hope he someone shoots those
shots yep, and he starts hitting them. He wants to
shoot them, man, that's a that's a that's one of
the best. Like you, I'd be feeling like this niggas invincible,
like and.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
It's fun too. He's very fun when him and Miller
are healthy, like it is really fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, but there are some players who were serious but
deemed unserious and they thought they was unseious All Stars.
Dwight Howard Lane Steve saying, fuck, I had like three
more on my list of like people who like they
were all Stars but nobody to take.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't think she's talking about actual all Stars. I
think it's like when I say the eight Mile Fall
All Stars, Like you know what I'm saying. So it's
LaMelo an unseious all Star. I mean, I think right
now his reputation is first ballot unserious all Star. I
don't think there's anywhere around it. Like, I think he's
on that list. Dwight Howard is definitely on there. J R.

(22:31):
Smith is on that list. Yes, Uh, Swaggy uh Javel
is on that list. Swaggy is on that list for
a while. I wonder how people feel about them now,
because I feel like now that one of them is
a media guy, people might treat them differently. But I
remember these niggas for sure being unseious. Darius Miles and

(22:53):
Quinton Yep that them niggas was super unserious for sure. Uh,
I low key. Even though we've kind of turned turned,
I feel like it's come all the way back around.
Paul Pierce an twine Walker, unserious, All Star first Ballot Hall.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Of Fame Kyrie at James Rden Kyrie.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I can't give it to Kyrie or James to me
because people have too much respect for their games, meaning
that like to me, their problem isn't being unseerious, it's
honestly not being able to deliver in the serious moments. Uh.
I think that's a different problem. Unseious to me is

(23:37):
people look at you like a goo, like this nigga
game is goofy. I think when people look at Kyrie,
they're like his game is hoopers love Kyrie. I think
the nigga is unserious as a person. And we'll get
to that today. By the way, he.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
Said, like I never I never looked up in that,
like I right, but but like I'm you know, as
we clarify, I don't think I've ever looked up and
thought James Harden is not taking this serious.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Like I was like, oh my god, he's he's taking
it too serious. This nigga won't shoot the ball. You're
scared as fuck and Kyrie. Like I said, it's more
off the court like his game. I've never looked at
his game, but like, that was ridiculous Kyrie in a
bad way. I've always been like that was ridiculous in
a good way. It's it's when he started talking, right
he started talking.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Would you put Dennis Rodman in that serious? Because he
was off the court and on the court.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'll tell you what, Justin, he had some years. I'm
not it wasn't every year, but he did have some
years on the list for one hundred.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah. No, it's not like I never thought he.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Was bullshitting about rebounds and all that shit that when
he but when he fell out in San Antonio, he's
taking shoes off when they took him out the game.
That was extremely unserious.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
He lay on the sideline too. Yeah, see I remember that.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
That was a lot of on the court antics though.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yes. Yeah, but once again, once again, Justin, I think
it's different than being unseerious because like if you do
antics to get under Carl Malone's skin so that he
will get kicked out the game for a flagrant foul,
I feel like that's some like drunken master level fighting ship,
like you like you one of them ones Like I

(25:28):
never thought Dennis wasn't playing hard or like he was
cheating the game, other than when he was with the Spurs. Oh,
Ricky Davis, Yes, Ricky Davis one hundred. When that nigga
got the triple double by getting his own rebound off
of the other team goal, they had to take it

(25:48):
away from him. That was ridiculous. Yeah, that might be
about I'm sure there's more if I think more on it.
And then there's some guys that I don't think. I
would not say that. I wouldn't say that unseerious, but
I know the rep like y'all think Kat is unseious.
I know y'all do. I don't agree, but y'all definitely

(26:10):
think he's an unseerious basketball player. Yeah, but but I
know I see. I won't deny what the people are thinking.
That's why I got LaMelo on the list, not because
I agree with it, but I know that's what people think,
especially those that don't watch the teams. All right, anyway,
I'm injured that have been doing my rehabit. I'm kind

(26:30):
of famous sports rehab place. Cam's jersey is up there
and a bunch of other pros. It's also the place
Big Baby did his insurance for us. Anyway, Oh no,
I go into early morning with the other od's, but
as I'm leaving, the athletes start tricking and to get
trickling in to get treatment, and so do the ig models.
One technician said, these women aren't even injured. Well, they
knowing the motherfucking dudes is coming though they.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Know some some players penis is injured and they that
are repair it.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Right like my hamstring hurt. One technician said, women aren't
even injured. These women know the game. And today my
trainer says, Steven motherfucking a has been in there the
past couple of days getting in work. He comes in
around noon. I'm attempted to switch my time so I
could see him. It would be an honor to have
him dismissed me with shut up Mary. Anyway, I report

(27:19):
from the field if I see anything good, keep up
the good work team, please do. He seemed like a
dude that would take himself so seriously. If you tried
to like walk up to him at the gym and
be like, what's up, man, he was.

Speaker 8 (27:31):
Time.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, I have a.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Right right, Let's see what to do, Rod Carron and Jilber.
Arenas says, those stacks Unlike when Ray Lewis had to
tell sal there's uh not know what to do, yeah,
he said, Unlike he said that he had to tell
us how there's plenty to do without football, black jack, roulette,
prop betting, and poker. Probably a lot of poker at

(27:56):
Arena's poker club, which allegedly was operating out of rented
California mansion and involved in Israeli mobster wildest part to
me is that when raided back in twenty twenty two,
Arenas to not being involved in any of the gambling,
then fouled paperwork to reclaim that same money a year later. Gilbert, So,

(28:18):
oh girl, baby girl, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
So he been running in the legal gamble house.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
He's been running, according to the Feds or whatever. Okay,
Gilbert Arenas was arrested on suspicion of running illegal high
stakes poker game from his mansion.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
It's just boys club, Karen, Just the guys getting together,
you know, having a few cigars.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Nothing to see here.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
When they all on the airplane, what's the difference, Like
they brag about gambling on the planes when they're in
traveling trips.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
What's the difference there is in the national air?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I guess yeah, yeah, nobody owned the skies, but apparently
this is like it looked at somebody eye when they
was like how much of they been? We ain't getting
to cut this, not on my watch.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
I was thinking about this the other day because like
we can kind of put all these stories together. Matter
of fact, let me let me go hang play the
Lewis real quick, because it's about to cover all three
of these stories.

Speaker 9 (29:30):
Them down, which we call it crime watch. How much
crime picks up if you take away our game?

Speaker 8 (29:39):
Why do you think that would happen? There's nothing else
to do?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Sound nothing, no sound, So Gil with a ring. It's
forty three charger one kind of conspiracy to operating the
legal gambling business, one kind of operating in the legal
gambling business, and one kind of making false statements to investigators.
He was one of six men to be arrested in
connection with running the legal high stakes poker games. I
think it's so interesting how much he was just out
here because he was everywhere. First Take Sports, like he

(30:06):
was on ESPN, he was on Bomoni's podcast All Kinds
of places, just knowing that this ship was out.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Here right with his face everywhere.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, judging other people, talking, picking off other people, problem.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Talking about his baby mama's and shit.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah crazy, what a reckless dude, I know Javar's kritenm
was like, see.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Man, he like, I got all this money I got,
I got my kids, I got these extra jobs, but
I still need something to do on the week.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
And he had made himself, he had made himself into
a guy who was starting to get some level of respectability.
I didn't understand it, and I didn't really respect it,
to be honest, I listened to him, like, I'm not
saying he's not a good interview gift the gab, blah
blah blah, but like some of the stuff he says,
I'm like, this is he is doing what I like

(31:06):
to call the he's getting graded on the black curve,
the ignorance curve. And I don't like when brothers lean
into that because I think we can be better than that.
But it's like, let me say the thing a white
man can't say, but people will expect me to say
because I'm black, and they not gonna get it me
too hard. But if like if this a white man

(31:27):
said the same shit, they will be on his ass.
Prime example, when he was talking about Karl Anthony Towns
and saying people think he's a bitch, yes, and I
was like, and I had texted bo I talked I've
said it on the show about my theory about that.
I was like, y'all know, that's really what it is.
And people don't want to say it. But he says it,
it goes viral. He says it in a place that

(31:49):
is supposed to be a sports show that's respectable, blah
blah blah, and people are like, it's just Gilbert be
and Gilbert Okay, that's that lower bar that we would
not have because if it was Dan Orlowski saying that ship,
they'd be like this racist motherfucker, homophobic motherfucker, get him
out of here. So anyway, he was accused of renting

(32:13):
out of his mansion and in Sino, California, for the
purpose of hosting the legal high stakes poker games. He
reportedly asked another man, Arthur cast the stage his manche
and find others to host the games and collect rent
from them for arenas. Cat's name was not mentioned as
one of the arrested parties in the US Attorney Office
release Wednesday. Maybe that's because he's snitching.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Right till it all. He got cal that's said. What
you want to know, your honor, I will tell it all.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
He cooperating. I better hope Malik Beasley wasn't in this yo.
He broke up a little bit, but I think it
was as bigger than Nino Brown.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
He said, yeah, he said it got who who a
black man with a millionaire?

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Millions? Okay, like his ass up to get them.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Per the indictment authorities claim he did not being involved
with the party in question, despite allegedly texting a picture
to a code defendant of a poker table featuring his name,
silhouette and jersey number in twenty twenty one. What he's yeah, yeah, customized.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
This bro.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
And his son who just got in that car wreck.
I believe actually like tore like his a C L
or something just like like right, has he arrived at
college this year this week or something like so he's
probably out for the season, like.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Just gonna get back Laura, Laura.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
EDDI going to jail right.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
And make him support before the government take it.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I want it all. But man, that's like, so that's
the first criminals story, and that I mean that low
key sounds kind of serious, dude, Like that feels like
one of those things where like I can see people
acting like it's not serious. Like, man, this kind of
shit probably happens all the time. So what you can't play,
You can't play poker with your friends.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
At probably not the money that they was betting.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it's the
kind of thing you don't think about. And then you
start reading the charges, it's like, oh he was charging rent.
He was like he wasn't necessarily playing poker with his
friends as much as he was like out here making
money off of people having high stakes poker game, which
is a legal and you know, all of a sudden,

(34:53):
now you it was like, this is not a casino. Yeah,
now you're all setting you're in trouble. But all right,
So that's his story, and like I said, get well
soon to his son.

Speaker 9 (35:04):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
And to be to be fair, I really thought I
would see tax evasion as one of them charges too,
with the gambling and not reporting any of it and
you know the income.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Well, justin is just because the preliminary indictment had these charges,
it doesn't mean that more charges can't always be added.

Speaker 8 (35:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
So like if they're saying he lied to them about
the money in the first place, and then they found
out he tried to recoup the money later, that means
they've been looking at this money and his paperwork. So
you know, you never know. If I was in there,
I'll be snitching. I'll be like, listen, Swaggy Pee was
there too. I know he don't have been snitched on
in the past, but call me D'Angelo Russell because we

(35:47):
all going.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Down twice not again. He might hurt herself.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I also can't think. I also can't think of a
player more likely to snitch on everybody than Gil with Arenas.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh yeah, everybody going down.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
That documentary he said, I mean, hey, I'm I may
be wrong for what I did, but he had grown man,
and he did what he wanted to do. He's gonna
have to take responsibility for that. And that's exactly what
he gonna say.

Speaker 9 (36:19):
Watch how much Evil, which we call it crime, Watch
how much crime picks up if you.

Speaker 8 (36:29):
Take away our game. What do you think that would happen.
There's nothing else to do.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Sound. So Marcus Morris has been arrested. Marcus Moore, who
also was starting to be on first take a lot,
him and his brother were starting to be on first.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Or singer the third? Which one is this one?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I don't know that there was a difference.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Marquis one of all got one of them got named
the Sun right after him or something like that.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
I don't know, because because.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
He's passing down that legacy like Lebron did you know nickname?
We just got to call him Brianni because Lebron James's
too much pressure on him. But he passes down just
the one that's got the junior. He passing down the
criminal name.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
So he got arrested. He was in court in handcuffs
and everything like oh in the courthouse, like it wasn't
one of them like Trump arrests. When you come down,
they take your mugsh I'll let you go home. They
said it was partially. Part of it was because he
stiffed a casino in Las Vegas. I guess he wrote

(37:43):
a bad check and uh, I guess they don't play.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Oh no, they want the money.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
He talked to judge, he was in process of paying
off his debts in Nevada and releasing him can help
expect like that is that why he was on first
take for the check because he was down a lot.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
That mother was going straight to the casino right.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
He was like, can you actually write my checks out
to MGM grind.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Can you cash at me the checks?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
PayPal got care of Las Vegas Senate directly.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
He can't, can't call brother to help him out, his
brother to help him out. I thought of brothers over everything.
When he was mad at his brother.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
His brother wasn't like, no, that's on you, brother. The
casino is joker, the judge thought, denied. The judge, though
denied the motion for bond, said she would only release
him to Nevada authorities for extradition or if the warrants
that were she arrest were was drawn.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Damn, Like, no, what we're not gonna do is let
you go free. You could run, so you and Nevada
come on up and get him.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I wonder if he's gonna be back on the first take.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Possibility.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I don't know why he took his picture this way.
I know he was upset, but man, when you take
your picture like this, you look like the last thing
a woman sees that she is being strangled. And to them, yes,
like never take fellas, always smile. Never take the picture
with your head that way. It looks, it looks terrible.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
This is how dude's profile shots. Bet we're looking up
your nose now.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
He did want to get the last word so on Twitter,
which he got Twitter in jail, he told somebody I
don't know, but he had put this on Instagram. My
last thing is fuck Vegas. To treat me like that
was wild. I've gambled on that property over ten plus years.
We could have handled that mob style before that option.

(39:38):
You mean take you in the back, put your put
you on a vice mob style. What say, never been
in cuffs or part of any fraud. I think you
meant fraud. Ship in my life.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
I thought you got trouble for beating up your mama. Boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I don't know that they got in trouble for that though.
He never been in cuffs, he said, uh, and it's
going to stay that way. I don't need PR to
do anything for me. This is from me, a man
who built his career on morals and character, never running
a ducking from anything except joking that one time. If
you know gambling, you can't take money out the casino
if you got a marker.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Okay, And what does that mean to me? All I
know is they arrested you.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Hey, well you know, good luck to him, I guess,
so good luck to you.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Here's a man handling that mob style by going to Twitter.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yep, that's exactly how men go to Twitter.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
We hate to see it. Well, also keeping it one hundred.

Speaker 9 (40:48):
Watch how much evil which we call it crime? Watch
how much crime picks up if you take.

Speaker 8 (40:58):
Away our game? What do you think that would happen?
There's nothing else to do.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
So ESPN has AGM.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
ESPN has officially parted ways with Shannon Shark. No ship, Well,
I don't know you say no ship. He said he'd
be back for NFL preseason. He settled with that accuser
like a week or two ago. And I did ask

(41:27):
my timeline, so do y'all think this means Shannon will
be back? And the amount of people who said yes.
I was shocked because I've been saying he won't be
back the whole time. I as soon as he paid her,
I was like, there's another reason he won't be back.
And I think that it was out there that people thought. Man,
I guess maybe in this world with Trump is presidents,

(41:48):
like people was getting away with ship all the time
and as long as she got he got an NBA
or she won't be bringing this up every day. She'll
be you know, he'll be back. And they made me
start doubting myself, like maybe I'm tripping. I thought this
ship was like.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
You know, yeah, they don't want to deal with this ship.
You might have more accuses.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Don't nobody want to, right, And like she's and it's
not a like man, he did me dirty. She's saying
sexual assault, right, Like this was not your runner the meal,
like this was an email a dokah some shit where
it's like, yeah, that's a social faux pap, but that's
not a crime.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah. And I think the dude we just talked about
it be on be back on ESPN.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Quicker Marcus Morris, Yes, because at least he just gambled.
Yeah they that so Shannon Sharp is out as well.
That's that's crazy. All these dudes I'm talking about used
to be on first.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Take because they don't you know, ESPN, they don't want
to deal with that, Like.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Well, now it's gonna be first intake into the prison system,
first inmate. Good grieve.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
You think they'll started calling Marcus a broke boy.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Listen, like he might be our free working but like,
oh yeah, bro, I know you need an extra job.
You want to come over here and cut my grass,
get your few extra dollars.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Man.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
The thing that I thought about that made me smile,
like but it's probably not It probably never happened, But
in my mind, I was like, boy, someone need to
scrubbed the archive. Will first take footage for an episode
that had Marcus Morris, Gilberterenez, and Shannon on at the
same time because the crime the crime. But I don't

(43:37):
I don't know if they've ever been on the show
at the same time. But man, if they had that
ship would be like just photoshop the inmate clothes over
all of them or because they are are turned them
into that thingos dust from Avengers in Infinity War. Because boy,
them boys, I don't think they coming back on TV.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
No time for me either, So Lexing I said, just
be his podcast, I mean, because what else is he
gonna be doing? The one MM.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Because I don't know how much Gilwig's podcast relied on advertisements.
But Gilbert still know enough people in the league that
fuck with him that he'll continue to have guests or
can show up on other people podcasts, and especially if
he's willing to talk about these charges, which he normally
is an open book with things. Normally, he's a great salesman.

(44:31):
He knows how to draw attention to sell himself. I
think it just depends if if he actually gets some
jail time or not for him, but for Shannon. I
think Shannon will be back on the circuit. Maybe not ESPN,
but I think he'll be back around because a lot
of black people are gonna be looked like this white

(44:53):
woman take advantage. They're not gonna they're gonna ignore the
fact that it actually was charges of abuse.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Justin okay, okay, I hear what you're saying. But justin,
so what channel they gonna put him on? B ET
because every no, you said, Shannon Sharp, you said, you
said podcast, Well, Shannon never stopped this podcast. Shannon never
stopped this podcast.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
He do his podcast.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
And I thought, but I'm we're talking about TV. Were
talking about two different things. I don't and no point
that I think yeah, no point that I think these
guys are gonna go away because I think all of
them to some extent, work for themselves in a way
that they can't be quote unquote canceled. Even if they
get down to no sponsors, no blah blah, they can

(45:42):
always pick up a mic, record themselves, pay somebody to
edit it, and put it out. So, like, I wonder,
I think the quality of guests for Shannon might take
a hit because it seems like it's been taking a
hit since the ship started. Sure, and I think less
people care about what he has to say. People haven't
been sharing it, and and his ignorance doesn't come off

(46:04):
the same to people now that they've heard him cussing
that white girl out and threatening her shit right, So
I think that's a big thing. He took a hit
from likability. Gilbert, I think was starting to be in
places he really shouldn't have been. So like he'll go
back to just being a gull on of podcasts saying
crazy shit maybe, but him being on TV. I think

(46:28):
a lot of people are like that was a bad
idea and felt like we were playing with fire. Stephen A,
I think makes a lot of this shit happen. That's
why I think it's always first take because Stephen Ay,
I think it's like, you know, he likes to make
it like I'm looking out for my boys type of shit.
And then Marcus Morris, Dude, I would imagine they don't

(46:48):
have him back mostly, but to me, I think you
don't have right to me. I think you don't have
him back because he's not good at TV. Like honestly, dude,
this was a big AHA moment for me because I
have been like, why the fuck is Marcus Morris on
TV so much? And now I'm like, oh, he had

(47:11):
to be on TV, like he must have been in there, like, hey,
it's the dead of summer. All y'all want to take
a vacation. Put me up. I'll say whatever. I don't
give a fuck, don't care because he because his delivery
is so dead paying. He's not good at sports TV
like you have to like even when he said something controversial,

(47:32):
it's real, it's no seasoning on it, meaning like for example, kendrickshot. Yes,
for example, Kendrick Perkins did a uh Chris Paul is
not a top ten point guard list this week and
I saw him deliver it on TV, and whether you
agree with the take or not, it made you want

(47:53):
to argue with him because he was like, Nope, nope,
because this and then at your job, right, And I'm like,
that's really the point. Who gives a fuck? If Chris
Paul is top ten on Kendrick Perkins List. None of
us was thinking about it before today. None of us
are gonna be thinking about it tomorrow. It doesn't really matter.
It changes nothing in our lives. But he sold it.

(48:13):
Marcus Morris could say something even crazier, but his delivery
is so like, look, man, I'm saying Steve Nash the
greatest player of all time, even over Michael Jordan. Well,
why would you say that? Man? That's ridiculous. That's a
multi preposterous thing I ever heard. That's what I said, Nigga.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Do you know what this job is?

Speaker 4 (48:36):
And we gotta get.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
An actual shout out from that transformation in the league.
His persona was one way and a reputation of what
we thought about him to being on TV a completely
different dude and very entertaining to your point.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yes, I mean we don't have to give him a
shout out, but I hear what you're saying. I mean,
I don't I don't know that he I don't know
that he's made anything better with his turn. I don't
even know that I would think highly of him now.
But he Look, the thing is, he set out a
goal to be one of these guys on TV that
does the thing, and he's taking the Steven A. Smith

(49:15):
road to it, and it's working for him to and
he got it paid, got a contract renew Now we
won't really know, so they have to really pay him,
because that's what happens with all the ESPN talent. They
bring you in when you're cheap and you're new, and
they like it, and they give you one extension. The
next thing you know, you ain't there no more. But
you're right. He definitely showed us a skill that we
didn't think he had when he was in in the NBA,

(49:38):
and he clearly has worked on it. I just don't
know how laudable a skill. It is more like a
oh damn, that's the road you wint okay, if that's
what you want to do with your life anyway, right,
But yeah, man, first take, bro, they just like I thought,
all three of them dudes was in front on first

(50:00):
take at some point all of them in trouble with
the law, all right, first he.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Became an unseerious network.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I'm penciling in the Lakers to win the West this
upcoming season because Luca got them revenge as he's definitely
seems like he's on a mission to drop three hundred
points on the MAVs next season. Hell, even if the
Lakers don't win the West, this should be fun. What
do y'all think expected to be different about Lucas game
since he appears to be getting in shape on his
own time. I don't know how to tell y'all this, bro,

(50:30):
but it was never a problem for me. I just
think it's fat phobia. And I know people don't like
hearing that with their sports, but sports is one of
the places you're allowed to be fat phobic, and we
just gotta take it like okay, because to my eye test,
Luca's has been a top five MVP person for like

(50:53):
seven years or some shit. He took his team to
the finals a year ago, a year ago, and we
was like, oh my god, he's better than SGA, he's
better than Anthony Edwards. And then they lost to the
fucking Celtics, and it's like the second they lost, he

(51:13):
became a four hundred pound piece of shit, lazy, alcoholic,
hookah smoking, never played basketball or defense in his life, asshole.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
And wasn't that a barrenly lost? Like, wasn't didn't they
lose like in six?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I want to say six?

Speaker 4 (51:32):
And didn't Kyrie get hurt during that series?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I don't remember, But all I'm saying is they were
that close to a championship. He goes into the next season.
Brian Weinhor is like, this guy's a piece of shit, fat, lazy,
everybody's sick of his shit. Gets traded while injured. Close back,
it's still actually balling, but not as good as he

(52:00):
was before the injury. And we didn't say, well, the
guy is coming off a lower leg injury that the
team tried to rush him back for, and now the
team is trying to get him basically in the midst
of the highest peak of basketball near the end of
the season to get in the playoff race. We didn't
go where he's probably still coming off that injury. Instead,

(52:21):
they went fat piece of shit like Bruke. We love
calling somebody a fat piece of shit that make a
lot of money being an athlete. Period. The only time
we don't like doing it is what we're kind of
making fun of him for being so good and being fat,
you know what I mean. It was like, look at
big Poppy or whatever he looking. He might have got
the gut, but he know how to hit that ball
or whatever. I'm so all that to be. All that

(52:45):
I'm saying is I don't expect Luca's game or numbers
to change in any significant way because he was already excellent.
What I think will change is the way we talk
about him. It'll be like, well, now that he he
looks different, these numbers mean something. We're gonna say he's
playing better defense, whether he is or not. Keep in

(53:08):
mind there was a period of time when they had
traded Anthony Davis, Luca had got there, Lebron was there,
and they were top five in defense. Keep in mind
that happen. I just because people gonna forget this shit
next year when they're top whatever in defense and be like, see,
Luca's really locked in now. Well he so he wasn't
locked in last year when they did the same thing.

(53:30):
That is different, he was fat. So I think what's
gonna happen is just the way we cover him, it's
just he ain't fat, so now he care and now
he wants to be great. And my thing is, I
never thought he didn't care, and I never thought the
dude didn't want to be great. I agree, and his
production always showed that. But fat phobia is got in
the way this last year and a half. So that's

(53:52):
why we end up talking about something that's not just
how good he is.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
So label unserious, but actually really serious.

Speaker 8 (54:01):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
You see him be cursing out them, rustling his teammates,
that Nigga is definitely serious on that basketball court. And like,
maybe it's because I'm partial to unorthodox players being one myself,
but like, the numbers is the numbers. He was busting
people ass, yes, sir, And I don't like this revisionist
history where we just like underachieving Luca, He's like twenty six.

(54:25):
The fuck are y'all talking about Anthony Edwards. One looks
gassed at the end of every season.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
He looks tired, he looks like I want to go home.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
It'd be late in the game and I'd be like,
he look like he can't wait to go to right,
And we do not talk about him like that because
he don't look fat. That's it. If that was Luca
doing the same thing, disappearing in fourth quarters and shit,
we'd be like, yeah, nigga, it's time to lose some weight,
time to get serious about your craft. But we can't
help ourselves. So that's my belief.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
And Maye right too, like, thank god he did their cash.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Stream bruh Right, So yeah, we'll see what happens. And
also I think this is the best case scenario for
the Lakers. Everybody keep talking about the Lakers need to
make some moves and they're not serious about winning. Hey, bro,
this is the plan. The plan is for Luca to
be a dog, Lebron to be a professional, and that's

(55:24):
gonna give you as much a shot at winning a
ring as like ten other teams. The fuck what are
y'all waiting for? This is not the Big Three era.
You can't just get like great players aren't coming to
play for free to your team. Everybody got the same
kind of problems, you know, the only tea And the
problem is we're all comparing it to that one team,

(55:45):
the Thunder. And I'm gonna tell you, if the Thunder
is your problem, they're gonna just be the problem. That's it.
They're everybody. Everybody got the same problem. The thunder are
young and good and they ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
And we really looked at them and said, healthy Halliburton
Paces would have won this. Right, So you're really not
even that threatened by this team to a certain degree. Yeah,
the media everybody looked at the Paces and said we
can beat them.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
The media and the Lakers fans on Twitter feel like
they want some sort of overwhelming like signing that will
immediately make us go they gonna win a championship, and
I think that's impossible. Like this is what this is
what this new franchise environment is. You're getting DeAndre Ayton

(56:42):
and you're gonna make it enough. That's it.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Like, and they also want to they want to rotch
their names and it's like did they build up some
of the other players they got coming back?

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Like what does the team look like?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Do they fit in with the team chemistry, the roles
and expectations. Are they gonna play health d those and
then do that You'll learn their name as they win it.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
That is, if we could, if we did a survey,
an anonymous survey in the NBA of all the NBA GMS,
and we did it like, hey, would you trade your
roster with this roster? Straight up? The Lakers are going
to be near the top. Yes, So that's why I

(57:24):
don't even understand that. And now I guess it's media shit.
Is nothing going on right now? Something to talk about,
but it literally is, there's nothing to say, like they
gotta go make this work. That's it. That's what the
options are. That there's no blockbuster trade that's gonna fix
this roster in any way that it isn't already fixed,

(57:44):
especially that's not gonna cost you something you don't want
to give up Dalton Connect and now he's not worth
much because you held on too tight man. Has anybody
taken a hit like Dalton Connect took? I thought Mark
Williams caught it bad, but I think Donald's Connect Loki
might have got it the worst out of that untrade
untrade shit because like, at least at least they treated

(58:05):
Mark Williams like they expect him to be a contributing
center to Phoenix. At some point, the Lakers are treating
down Connect like he's sorry now and like the news
is like he can't even get you a first round
draft pick if you traded him. Now, I'm like, God, damn,
broy that. And now it's like, you know he old.
I'm like, y'all loved it. He was old. Remember last

(58:26):
year they was like they got a mature guy who's
ready to contribute. He's not like these other seventeen eighteen
year olds. He's coming in with a lot of skills.
And now they're like, look at this old ass he
ain't gonna never get better.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Crazy, he ain't look.

Speaker 10 (58:40):
Good and.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
It was bad, bro.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
You the business, the business, well, I mean they wanted
to trade him, but yeah, even when he got run,
he just ain't looked good. And I don't know if
it's the business and he couldn't get past that mental ill.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
He just ain't good.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
But that's the thing though, when he got run at
the and he did look good, like it was like
they just shut him down because he wasn't playing that
great a defense or something, and they was like, one
got time for you to learn on the job. I
don't know what happened, but they kind of did what
they doing with Jonathan kaminga where like you can't call
it this dude the asset that you can trade and

(59:19):
also be like he's unplayable. And I blame JJ Reddick
for that because and of course that snake Rob Polinka,
I blame them because they fucked up. They fucked up
that boy's confidence. But more important than fucking up his confidence,
they fucked up his value. That's the thing is a
GM you can't afford to do. Like confidence comes and goes,

(59:42):
you don't really know how people are gonna be effected
by whatever, But how the league sees how you treat
that player that determines if they willing to give you
something for him. If they came back to the Hornets
two months ago and said, actually, you know what we
do want to do the Mark Williams trade. Now that
the season's over, we'll give you the same thing don
connected in the first round, the horns will probably be like,

(01:00:04):
I don't know, dog, I don't know. Or at the
summer league, I should said at the summer league, they'd
be like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Mark showed or something right, and then said I'll show
you and then.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Went on and traded Mark anyway, right like still got something,
still got a first round pick for him, so like yeah,
kind of crazy, all right, back to this, uh uh
Darryl Moury saying multiple NBA execs told him they didn't
they didn't think the twenty twenty NBA Championship really counted

(01:00:38):
for ship as a can of fire and a cannon
from the basement of a glass house, nigga build a
team that can make the Eastern Conference Finals before the
heat death of the universe, Right, Yeah, I don't know
why Daryl Morey brought that up, that the Lakers ring
is got an asterisk from the bubble and that's just
how people see it, because I found that to be

(01:01:00):
just patently ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Because I've talked to people who don't play ball, right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Well, I've talked about this before. One Darryl Moriy was
trying I'm sure if his team would have wanted to
ring in the bubble. He he think it was great,
and I think he even said that. But I think
people have it backwards that fucking bubble ring is the
hardest NBA ring I've ever seen anyone ring.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Right because it was stressful of whole fucking pandemic going on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
In my brain, that shit counts for two championships for Lebron,
not one, because I broke down that year and I
can't remember which episode it was, but it's goes to
twenty twenty after they won the Ring and I went
through the roster each player. That is by far the
dumbest NBA team that has ever won a championship. It's

(01:01:57):
had to tow knuckle. I cannot believe in the fucking
bubble with all them rules in the pandemic, Lebron kept
that team from getting COVID. He kept them from going
home for that fucking when everybody, well Kyrie wanted them
to quit for the Revolution because Filando cas still got

(01:02:19):
shot and and and kept them from breaking all the
protocols and still won a fucking ring. Yeah, bro, I
did not think it was possible. And that was what
Dwight Howard, Conavious Carwell pope. I think j R. Smith
might have been on that team.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Kyle Coole, Yes, he was like because he was shirtless
after they won.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Yeah, it was crazy. That team was just head case
at the head Case at the head Case. It was like,
how could anyone think they could win that motherfucking ring.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
It was crazy because the buck of them didn't even
come back to next year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeah, and you couldn't really they want to ring Javel McGee,
j R. Smith, Dion Waiters, what, Rondo, That's right, was
the point guard that I'm not done. I'm not done,

(01:03:21):
Justin I forgot. You can save your comments for what
I'm done because it's that many people. I got so
many more names to go through Justin Okay, Dion Waiters
j R. Smith, Rondo, Mark, Keith Morris, Javel McGee, Kyle Kuzma. Uh,

(01:03:41):
I'm not gonna count Jerry Dully and Danny Green as
unseerious players. I like them. But Taylor, Taylor, Horton, Tucker Bruh.
He had us thinking he was somebody he got a
contract off of this championship. He ain't nobody. He is nobody.
Contavia's Carwell Poe in the bubble with the motherfucking ankle

(01:04:02):
monitor On Dude, that's right, he did have an ankle
mona drone And here's the one that everyone always forgets,
because even I forget it. Costas attempted concoup od arrest
my motherfucking.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Case niggas by the baby the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Yanni's brother Johannis couldn't get on the team. What nigga?
This This championship is the greatest ring I've ever seen
in my life. I'm sorry if you disagree, but y'all,
y'all have never clearly worked with idiots. It takes way
more to win with idiots than the wind with smart people.
This man. Hey, anyway, so I don't know what the

(01:04:47):
fuck Daryl moriy talk even.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Listened to the actual basketball reasons yet like this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I don't need to. I don't need to.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
There are actual basketball reasons. We don't even got to
get to them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
No, I'm not even talking about his opponents nothing. It's
just this, nigga. This was the toughest.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
That's how strove.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
This argument is br This is a handful of This
is a handful of space of dummies.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
The history of.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
JOK like this might be the unseerious All Star Hall
of Fame team crazy they won that ring bro And
so anyway, yeah, I don't I don't know what the
fuck Daryl talking about. He just be talking. All right,
now we can get into these news articles because I
think that was it. You have a wonderful weekend. Thanks.

(01:05:43):
It's always for the dump shows piece though. All right,
here we go news articles.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Taylor put together a team that made it to the finals.
Like I don't six haven't made it to the finals
in Houston when he was with them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Listen to a loser talk about what's Teffan was not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Right. Uh, I'll tell you who's not winning. I mean,
who's not losing. Taylor Rook's husband who we only know,
like his first name, Shane. Why she never posted this
man before in her life.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
She just popped to a man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
She just popped up, popped out on him. And I
would say, y'all don't know my last name because my
last name is Rooks. You see me, I'm Shane Rooks
to you, right, I took her name.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Their job is him master plumber.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yea. He liked He liked the man in the Tyler Perry.
He like the man in a Tyler Perry series. His
job is to be shirtless in God fearing. That's that's
all he do is just be at home, shirtless and
reading the Bible.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
He had a computer programm Uh yeah, everybody was doing something.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Greg Man's job.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
All right, so uh he The thing is, I didn't
know that Bomoni went to a wedding like a few
weeks ago, and he kind of alluded to it on
the show, but also said it was like kind of
a secret thing. He wanted to say too much about it,
couldn't take pictures and stuff, and da da da. I
was like, Okay, that's interesting, no idea who he was
talking about. Then I heard like Jamail Hill and some
other people like bringing up in the zeitguys like going

(01:07:47):
to this wedding, this wed and I'm like, who the
fuck got married? I wonder it's like like and then
keeping it a big secret, that's crazy. And then she
posted this and I was like, oh my god. There
was at Taylor Rook's wedding, Shane.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
To Shane to Shane Who, Shane.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Brooks, Shane Rooks, Brooks, sa Kwan Barkley, Jack Harlow, Draymond Green,
Donovan Mitchell, Singer Lila Coco Jones, many more were also
in attendance. And she just posted this, and the timeline's
hearts was broken because it was like, we all loved
her and we all was hoping that we'd win the

(01:08:27):
Taylor Rooks lottery. I guess you know people, but I
thought it was kind of cute actually that everybody was
so disappointed.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Huh, go back to photos.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Okay, give me, Okay, here we go, Draymond K what
about it?

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Okay, that's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Also, oh that's why you wanted me to do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Oh, I just well I was like, wait that Ramond.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Bitch.

Speaker 10 (01:09:02):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Originally I saw that was like, okay, they made up
good for them. When you actually asked me, my internal.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Thought was here here a whole bitch. You might as
well just re signed with Golden State and went on
by his business.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Her last name is Rooks. Yes, Okay, they've got in there, Brooks.
That's what they got.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
What do they have, Brooks?

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Scroll up? Scroll up?

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Oh they do got Brooks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
And that's why I said, Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
What's the hindus staying Times it's not real magazine?

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Okay because I Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Yeah, nice Rook, Taylor Rooks, thank you. Here's the thing though,
fuck man, just to make me lose my thing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
People that was there photos that I.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Say, I was gonna say, oh, I actually thought it
was adorable. On social media, all the guys being like
oh no and posting like memes of like that was
how hard broken they were. You know, somebody posted the
usher the video when he was being the studio. He
get that phone call, like what nah, hold on say

(01:10:09):
that again? Like it was so funny and like people
tried to turn it into something weird. What it was like,
I don't know why these men acting like they had
a chance. I was like, now, y'all know, if one
of these eligible ass if, motherfucking what's my man? That's
being a he gonna be in green Lantern? Uh god,
what the light skinned do with the eyes? He was

(01:10:31):
also in uh fossa. Yes, yes, Pierre, Aaron Pierre. Maybe
if Aaron Pierre showed up what we if? We all
thought Aaron Pierre was single and not dating anybody, and
he kept a secret for years and then he just
posted he was married, and y'all all had fake when

(01:10:52):
like the fake woman melt downs on we would It's cute,
it's fun It's one of the few times that men
can be kind of harmlessly funny. They weren't calling her
a bitch or or like like if anything, they were
like making fun of the dude, like lucky ass, nigga, Oh,
I'm married to Taylor Rooks.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Oh look at me, Like it was like this man's
lass name. It was adorables.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
But shout out to her for just popping up. That's
how you pop out. Yes, you do like her, and
that's how you stay low and Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Yeah nobody knew about and I still don't know that
man's name, and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
That it couldn't have been me. It couldn't have been me.
I wouldn't have made it. I wouldn't have made it
through the test. She would be like, I don't just
trust me. I'm just keep you on the load for
my career and stuff. Well, I love you, I accept
your your marriage proposal, and we're gonna get married one day.
And I would be like, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead
and get your face tattooed on my face just so
everybody knows. But you please don't just go ahead and

(01:11:50):
just let them know, because I need them to know. Like,
I know what you're saying is not good for the career.
You want to keep it on the load. That's fine.
I won't tell a soul. I promise I will not
tell people I'm dating you. But I'm gonna get a
tattoo to say I'm dating Taylor Rooks on my shirt
on my chest. And I'm not wearing shirts no more.
That's it. He never popped off on nobody. He never

(01:12:11):
made He never got offended in no joke people made
about her being fine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Like never seen him in public.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
He like, he never crashed out. This brother could handle
the pressure. Shout out to him. A lot of men
wouldn't have made it. A lot of men think they
would have made it, but they too insecure to be
dating a baddie like that, right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Christian, congratulations to Hill And I'm with you on that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Everybody gonna know I'm getting married to a motherfuckerer baddy yup,
like right like the minute she said yes, while I'm
ring shopping. I don't know that we'd have got past
the dating stage like bro Ill first they I would
have been. I'd have been like, you know, I went

(01:12:56):
on the date with.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Also like also, like he's an attractive man, so I
know other women have tried to holler at him and like,
people can be really cruel when they when you reject him.
So I know he done got called all kinds of
on the down lows, all kinds of secretly gazed, and
he had to eat that and be like, no, I'm
not prove it then, no, you got a girlfriend, not

(01:13:20):
that I can say. See this nigga game.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
If y'all he's stuck with that story.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
That's what y'all want to believe. Like that man, that's
a good brother right there, because I would have boy,
the way I would have been in the audience when
she like she interviewing Kad, I'm just in the audience,
like why is this dude at every show? Christian wilkins
Uh got cut from the Raiders. At first, it seemed

(01:13:49):
like he got cut because they wanted him to rehab
because he's supposed to be injured and a video was
supposed to him in a gym doing all kinds of
like exercises, and they was like, the team is very
upset because he's not working out right and he's supposed
to be rehabing. Then they cut him and said we're

(01:14:12):
not paying them. Oh and I know it's the NFL,
but you don't do that. That's not like, that's not
allowed to just be like nah. So then it comes
out that he did something described as weird, very weird
to a fellow teammate and that's why he's not on

(01:14:34):
the team anymore. Oh and he has a history of
grabbing people's genitals on the field. Yeah, so people are like,
did he do something inappropriate to another player? And there's rumors,
but there's not been any true confirmation, so we don't

(01:14:56):
really know what he did.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
He did something warn now you got we got you
got you making everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
Feel is that appropriate to go to the rumors?

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Well, the rumors I saw was the first one was
he was in trouble for kissing another teammate on the
head or something and it was seen as inappropriate and
the teammate took offense to it, so, uh, he was
kicked off. Here's him grabbing some some jump on another

(01:15:32):
and if what yep, that's in college and if he wanted.

Speaker 11 (01:15:38):
To, he got around the city like we did.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Why why they included? Why they included? Why they included?
This is the evidence. I don't I feel like it's
homophobic at all, like that they did it, but it
is funny, like like like hilarious. Yeah, I know. What
they trying to say is like he's gay for doing
this flip and a gay man would grab your junk
on the field, to which I'm like, I'm pretty sure

(01:16:10):
there's been gay in the play NFL a lot and
they ain't do all this ship.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
So you play I thought you just but the videos, yeah, d.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Trying to tell the ben won't won't that's him grabbing
Josh Allen's phenis did had a hand full. So, yeah,
he's out of it. He's out of the NFL. Can't
be doing that, Yeah, they And the first thing was, uh,

(01:16:43):
somebody tried to say he just held hands with a
teammate or something, but then it came out like, no,
it was worse than that. And then they said they
wouldn't say what it was. And then someone said he
kissed a teammate on the head, and uh yeah, and
they is, he's a pretty good player, meaning you know,

(01:17:03):
he had to go whatever it was.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Listen, you can beat your old girlfriend, you can fight dogs.
For you out here trying to grab ass against another man.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
We got to go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
That's where we try to line. Apparently he was in there,
was he He was in there like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
The lady in the First Road, the Apollo.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Oh, yes, grabbing them men's drop like ma'am, reaching up
and ship ma'am.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
You don't stop this, sir, sir, Oh my god. But yeah,
he's so he's probably out of the league. My okay,
here's a question, what whos gonna be the team that's like,
all right, man, that's our fourth defensive lineman that got hurt.
We're looking at this free agency because I feel like

(01:18:02):
it's two big tail tale signs. The first one being
like the NFL p A has not issued a statement
to support him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Because they normally, y'all, like the first thing smoking and he.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Got cut and not paid, you almost always had.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
To defend that right because you won't people even when
even if.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
He like got caught on video beating a woman, they
would be like, you can't just take the money even at.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Least got to paying for the rest of his contract
or whatever whatever. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
And then the other thing, because like that's the first thing.
The other thing is not one teammate that's spoken up
in his defense, not one whoa a lot of people
on the NFL team, Nobody like, well he's a good player,
hey man, he didn't do nothing to me huge This
ain't true, Like everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Just crooking, was it?

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Michael Saumds. Didn't his teammates even speak up to him like, yo,
he a good locker room rights?

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
My question did they look it? But I don't know her.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
If you the GM and you signed him, did the
did the team just ride or do they just whoop
your ass the second you do it? Or what are
they gonna lay him in the locker room? Like that's crazy?
Let's see. Uh mm, snitches never prosper. Nick Young takes
jab at D'Angelo Russell after woman leaks alleged DMS exposing

(01:19:31):
uh D ex laker. So, I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
He ought to be in jail and he getting exposed
on the internet.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
For this D'Angelo Russell.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
I thought, you said, Nick Young.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
No, So D'Angelo Russell got exposed from being in somebody's
d MS or something. This woman showed alleged messages that
he asked her to fly to Miami for him while
she was in Atlanta. Nick Young came out, was like,
oh man, what can I say? God answers all prayers.

(01:20:05):
Ja'all Morant, she's the goat. Shout out the swaggy nation
people that have been riding with me from day one.
I love what you're doing. I got you, cauz you
ain't going to see no more money. So I got you.
You know, snitches never prospering. You know only one made it,
j'all Morant made sure D'Angelo wasn't even going to have
a comeback shout out to her close out. So I

(01:20:29):
guess he's calling the woman Jae morant because she sucking
like a dick or something.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Maybe fifteen years later, you'll never prosper. Listen to a
ten year career in the league. Call down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Yeah, Also like he been prospering, like he's been making
a lot of money this whole time. He held off,
but I guess I get it though he held on
to that that same energy. He was like, nah, I won't.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
Fuck with that. He didn't even want Iggy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Like dot matter, petty is petty justin you know it,
You know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Swaggy didn't come out looking bad in that. Dad a
little came out looking bad at that the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
I know, But you know, cheating niggas aren't necessarily the
most like passionate forgiving empathetic people, justin what are you
expecting of Swaggy? If he was who you say he is,
he wouldn't have been dating her in the first place,
or cheating on hers. So like it is what it is.
He never gonna see the point. NFL rocked by Super

(01:21:36):
Bowl scandal because players around one hundred NFL players and
coaches and staff from about half of the thirty two
teams violated league rules by selling the Super Bowl tickets
for a markup. So they being fined right now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Oh so you can sell them, but you can't sell
them for over the face value.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
I guess so. Ah, they said, players are allowed, players
are allowed to buy players are allowed to buy two
tickets at face value. But then on resale sites some
tickets were going for more than ten thousand dollars, so
they would buy the tickets for nine fifty or seventy

(01:22:18):
five hundred dollars somewhere between that range, and then you
could resell it for a huge markup, and so you're
not supposed to resell it for a buff face value.
So they got fined.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Oh and it's probably because they knew exactly probably what
tickets they voughked, so they probably was like, hey, these
are the tickets. It's such such about wise they even
on this website, yeah versus not tin funny if you
would have sold it to like a family member or somebody,
they probably could have paid you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Well, I think even then you weren't supposed to do it.
But I guess it's easy to track on the web.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
That was my thing. Yeah, yeah, I bet you when
they see them hit the websites, they probably was tracking
and if certain you know, seats and numbers hit, they
would why these tickets on here and why they selling
up their face value?

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Bubba Wallace in them? Fast Twitch Muscles finally won at Indy,
first first black to win at Indy and the old
ast y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
We're discussing racing. See how diverse we are?

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
We DIVERSI find our funds.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
I love that at once.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Story more about us than him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
I love that the sport that gave us let's go Brandon,
and also the is that the news scandal indeed in
the garage. I love that they were like races and
the thing we need to see past color. We all
just out here. It's all about having fun and being
in the cars and who's the best racer? And the

(01:23:48):
second that man won, it was like first black man
to win black and did it black? He broke the areer.
We are all one. We celebrate together. As Martin Luther
King intended, I'm like, oh so now it's okay to
talk about his race.

Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
All right, let's see, uh congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
My man pleaded guilty to stalking Caitlyn Clark, he's getting
eighteen months in prison. Good, yep, don't these people yep?
Now do Dave Portnoyd because he be stalking her too
on Twitter by by acting like a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Coach Prim got his bladder removed because he got diagnosed
with bladder cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Didn't tell nobody, didn't he tell his sons.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Yeah, but he spread it or spread awareness about it
by telling everybody and stuff, which is uh, you know,
inspirational and good. You know, appreciate him doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
And uh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
He also did a soft launch of a parent this
nigga be and Daton Caruji Train that was I remember
you said that this motherfucker immediately made me forget about
the cancer because in the video he posted she was
in the fucking room before he got put the surgery.
I was like, is that Caroucie?

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Why is that not what people could be in the
room when you put the surgery.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
I would have had a I mean before you go under?
Oh before okay, I would have bruh. If I was
dating Kruci Tran, I would have had the press conference
to tell y'all was dating Karuchi Tran, and then I
would have been like, oh, yeah. By the way, also,
I had beat cancer. I forgot to mention that too.
But anyway, this is one dating I pull her. Y'all

(01:25:35):
seen Claus. You know what I'm doing, Come on.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
Co host the podcast with him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Not Carucci.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
You sed to day Chris Brown. Chris Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
No, For some reason, I thought that was the same
woman he was doing sharing the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Oh, I don't, well, you know what, I don't know
whatever this podcast is. So maybe it is. I don't know,
but people was saying that that's who it was. In
the video. Ice Cbe said that ice Cube said that
angel Rees didn't get offered a Big Three deal like
Kaitlyn Clark because it won't have the same impact. I

(01:26:16):
don't think we can make the same offer because they
won't have the same impact to the league, he said,
basically allowing a woman to play in the Big Three
who he thought Kaitlyn Clark, he would have gave her
something like five million dollars according to them, but not Angel.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Turned I can guarantee you he don't want to say
that she turned him down. But yes, I agree, Justin
and he just wanted to make a big scene out
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
I think it's even simpler than that. Guys, I think
you think what y'all think. Angel Rees turned him down
to be in the Big Three. Kaitlyn Clark turned them down.
He asked Katelyn last year. She said, no, he did
not ask Angel Reese that we know of. He's saying

(01:27:07):
the reason. So he was getting interviewed and they was like,
why didn't you ask Angelies And he said, because it
wouldn't have been as moved the needle as much as
having Kaitlyn Clark last year. That's what he's saying. Lash.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
It's different if he got asked about it. I still
think his response with Nigga, but this differently got asked
about him.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Yeah. Well, more important than that to me is he
does not care about the Women's League or the players
or w NBA. He cares about the Big Three. And also,
I don't think it's his money. I think this was
an investor type, Well if you can get or we'll

(01:27:51):
give you five million dollars. But but and it's like,
well anybody else, No, what about angel Rees? No, like
we have the money, it's not it's not on the
commission of the Big Three. I go out and sign people.
I don't think it's that I think if people don't know,
but he's in bed with like Saudi money and what's

(01:28:12):
my nigga?

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
And uh what's that?

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Uh fuck Bannon?

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
Something better Republican?

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Yeah, like this is not a good group he in with.
So they wouldn't respect Angelies anyway, even if they thought
they could get some uh you know, Steve Bannon, that's
his name, even though you thought you could get something
out of it. So yeah, it's anyway. I think. Yeah,
I just think this is the real point is that
he ain't the man behind the money and all that
pro black shit. It's out the window when it come

(01:28:41):
to some money.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Instagram model accuses DeAndre Ayton of stranding her on the
island because she would not have sex with him. Oh,
he flew her out, but then he left her stranded
on the island.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
They went to a trip to the Kirks and Kkos
for the summer the league started to see before the
league start back up in October, but according to the model,
she refuses advances to have sex with him. He had
a security kicker out and left her stranded all by herself.
She wasn't going to just let him get away with it,
so she told everybody on Twitter about it. DeAndre Aiden

(01:29:24):
security left me outside in the middle of nowhere in
the Turks of Kkos because I won't have sex with him.
Whether she was able to get back home or still
standing on the island as unknown, and given Aiden has
been keeping mama situation, it makes it seem it only
makes it seem like he was in the wrong and
she is telling the truth. Fans are also pointed out
that the reason he flew to the Allans was because
he was promised something in return, but things turned sour

(01:29:45):
and he left her. Whatever the reason, stranding someone was
probably not.

Speaker 8 (01:29:49):
The way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
This articles got a lot of opinions. I'll tell you what,
dog and I'm this is one of the problems with
how people can see this game, because they don't see
it the way you know, me and justin see it.
She just played the game and she lost. That's it.

(01:30:10):
Neither one of these people give a fuck about each other.
If she would have got pregnant by him this weekend
and been in child support court ten months from now,
we would have been like, I guess she got them
and I wouldn't even be up here like these women.

Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
Be nope, you know the opportunity, you know the.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Game you playing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
She just she found her cost that day she said
not for DeAndre Ayton. Listen, Drea Michelle somewhere cackling like
think I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
I also felt like she missed up future opportunities because
now she's saying, you can fly me out, but it
ain't gonna guarantee you smashing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
I agree, and I think it's a bad look because
it's the it's not even gonna give her the boost
of look at the type of dudes I be pulling, right,
because that's what you're supposed to be. Like the time
to post him is like when he fall asleep in
the bed and need you do you do that that

(01:31:11):
folks where he be sleeping, like like got him? That's
how you announced you fucking with ballers. You don't do
announce it by being like I won't have sex with.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Them, or when she first landed, but like thank you DeAndre, right,
and you soon right like that one, like a few
of those, and then it's putting all the other ballers
on notice that yes I do get flew.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Out right, So now she so results, so it's not impossible.
But now she gotta play the game a different It's
a little bit harder because these men are not that sophisticated,
but they do hate women and they are skeptical of
all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
Yes they are.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
And so the last thing any of these men want
to hear, especially the dumber ones that are willing to
go get somebody pregnant, The last thing they want to
hear is that there's a possibility you don't fuck. They
just don't want to hear it. I know this sounds
kind into it though. They're not looking for girlfriends. They're
looking to fuck Instagram models.

Speaker 8 (01:32:16):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
It's like saying you got a car that don't drive it, right. Yeah,
I'm not saying there's no nigga, but it's just you.
You've lessen the possibility of niggas cause they don't really
care that other niggas fuck. That's like, we know that
for a fact. They see that as a plus. Will
they be like, like, so the idea of like she

(01:32:37):
wouldn't let DeAndre fuck, but I got all the game.
That's not doing what you think is doing. That's regular
people thinking. The group be thinking it's like, oh, she
let DeAndre fuck. I know, I'm fucking that's what they
be thinking. So yeah, I it's just a hey, look,
play as fuck up. This is my first time hearing
of her. Maybe she just had an off day. Maybe

(01:33:00):
she'd go back and be like, I shouldn't have posted that.
But yeah, I think it's a tactical mistake. I think
you gotta really, you really gotta, you really gotta lean
into a fucking Even if it happened like that, I still, yeah,
you're better off fucking and not posting the dude than
not fucking them in posting them. Yes, that's just a fact,

(01:33:21):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
So good luck to her her career. Maybe she'll bounce that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Yeah, I mean this.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Deal right, you know, right, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
I don't know why miss smart is turning into her
lawyer in the chat trying to advocate for There's nothing
you could do to change my mind. Were just calling
balls and strikes. If she played this well, I'd be
giving her credit. Same way. You was dead wrong about
Bill Belichick, girl, and I had to put you on
game back then. It's just I see this game differently.
I've been looking at this my whole life. It's not

(01:33:56):
you know, it ain't about favorites or none of that ship.
It's just Okay, you had an off night, you get
right back in there. Okay, it's not the end of
her life, but this is a bad it's an auspicious start.
She's dalk and connective groupies. Okay, she just had a
bad summer league. Hey, we've seen people come back from worse.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Had a bad game, gonna get a double double and
ended up striking out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, you only really need to catch
one dummy, that is that is all you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Need is one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
You really just need one motherfucker. That's like condoms for
what so it could happen. But I'm just saying she's
lowered the value of those of those penises that she
could get. It used to be a higher it was
you was won't hoping to work up, but now you
kind of stuck on the if DeAndre Ayden level. And
that's good luck to her praying for.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
Yeah, she could have at flying It's like I'm flying
her out and she already said no.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
And I don't get attached to any of them because
it's all a game. I like that's where people they
let the other stuff come in, like the rooting for
that rooting for somebody is what you do for your
favorite sports team. I don't root for against any of them.
It's not like that for me. I'm just giving you
the analysis. This is what happened. You cant accept the truth.
If you can't, that's it. It could be worse, but

(01:35:28):
it's like the same way. Like as much as we
love Brittany Renner, I was the first one to be like, yes,
she's down bad, like like I remember justin being into
now like nah, it's Britney because I'm like, nah, she's
dating Kevin Gates. That's a step all. She's all. She's
letting us know her game is not where her game

(01:35:49):
used to be. The Muslim thing wasn't working. It just
is what it is. So it happens, you know, good
luck to her and Mary.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
Maybe she did get full out, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
It is right right now.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
You would.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Now you're eating beg Ya's with fucking Zion Williamson and
ship because you fucked up the Turk and Keko's checks.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
It's just I gotta yeah, I gotta see if you
can handle the Charlotte first.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Yeah, but she but look she could work away up.
I remember when people didn't believe in Paul George. Uh
baby mama, and I believe in that woman. Okay, and
she broke him down. They married, They happy. They had
auspicious beginning because everybody was calling her, well, you know
she done slept with other NBA players and all that.

(01:36:42):
I said, listen, once, you you just need one food.
That's it. You ain't got the trick, the holygue, but
you just got to play the game, right. She got
one and and they happy. He stopped fighting. Yeah, he
stopped fighting all the pressure and was like, man, shit,
we happy. My family cool, Like my girl looked great.

(01:37:04):
Who cares. She used to be a stripper, so it
can happen for her. I'm not saying this out, but
this is a This is like when you look at
an NBA schedule and you'd be like, that was a
bad game. She had a bad game. I hate that
for I hate that for her to be an introduction.
But she can overcome it. You know what, you look
at it, you look at it, you go with tomorrow
he playing another team, e'zact good luck. She might need

(01:37:25):
to start with a G league nigga something I don't know,
but she gonna you know, she'll be she'll hopefully she'll
be back. I just you almost never want to expose
the niggas unless you unless you're saying you're in a relationship,
which is totally different, because that can work. If you're
in a relationship and you'd be like this nigga dogged
me out, that can work cause it's like, whoa, he

(01:37:45):
thought enough for her to put her in a relationship
before he cheated, Right, But if it's just like he
flew me out and I wouldn't fuck him, it's like,
oh no, that's what it's like. I took my car
to the shop. They won't check the battery like nigga.
That's the minimum.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
Those are stats that will not be on the record
in money.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
You knew DeAndre Aiden was ugly way before you accepted
them tickets, and you knew y'all weren't buddies.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
And there's not even the cost for them. It's more
the fact that he wasted his time. There was so
many other options of him to choose to fly out
and you playing games.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Yeah, they want sure things, that's what they want. They're
not sophisticated creatures like the idea, like Chris Smart said,
they gonna think they're special because she'll fuck that one
but not the other one. If that was a problem
for these niggas, they wouldn't be fucking the same six women.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
That's not what.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
None of that is on their radar. They are not like, well,
I'm special, she only fucked me. They do nothing. They
are like I want to fuck anyway. That motherfucking no
Jumper podcast or with the groovies, that's where the game.
That's where the game is right there. When they just
be like, yeah, man, I let all of them shut
on my chests, I'm like, see, she ended to win it,

(01:39:02):
she got a.

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
Gold right, couldn't win because.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Manhattan shooting. Uh well, actually it's not suspect. He dead,
a guvernment shot up. Tried to shoot up the NFL
headquarters at three forty five Parks. You have not heard
of the story, zy, wow? Okay, well yeah he tried to.
It was like the biggest story anyway. He tried to
shoot up the NFL headquarters because he said he had CTE.

(01:39:35):
Then he put up with like a long gun, walked
into the building, got shot. A couple of people got
in the elevator, got in the wrong elevator, went to
the thirty third floor with the NFL building, I guess
supposed to their floors is like six and five and shit.
So he went to the wrong thing. He shot up
a a woman who was like a real estate like

(01:39:57):
ceo like this this huge like a company.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Yeah. And then he died by self inflicted gunshot.

Speaker 8 (01:40:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Child.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
So now that I said that, h.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Thanks uh.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
He definitely had the ct Yes he did. Because the
way that he ended up on the thirty third floor,
I was like, that's that ct for you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
Like you, I'm glad you. I'm glad you. The people
just got to see it's not always be.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Hey, hey, I mean opening case for ct E right,
like nigga when I read When I read that, I said,
he wasn't even shooting the right people. He was gone
out here. Oh my god, the CTE was on that man.

(01:41:05):
Brother ct Wait a minute, and let me tell you something.
The y'all might think I'm being cruel, I'm not.

Speaker 10 (01:41:23):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
Y'all know that shit's funny. But the worst people in
the world are the people that's like, thank god, he
went to the wrong elevator and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Like, he still killed. Somebody still died, not ridiculous. What
are you saying?

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
What Skip Bayley said that ship? Thank god he went
to the wrong And what does that mean? So he
killed some other random people that wasn't the people that
didn't do nothing to him. It's not like the NFL
people did anything to him. He never played in the
NFL either.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Oh a day in his life, right, Shane.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Rooks could have been in that office. And what would
Taylor have? You work a regular job in the office.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
He could have been working the elevator. Hey do you
think do you think you put a gun into Shane Rooks?
He would he would be like, hey, man, don't kill me.
I'm dating Taylor Rooks. You think he would say it,
then you think he would take it to the grave,
like I made a promise, no matter what, I would
never tell anybody what was dating.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
He might mm hmmmm, uh you got he got.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
He gotta show a picture too, like, come on, man,
look at look at my screen Look at my uh
my screen shot?

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Come on, man, please come on look at my Look
at my secret tattoo. I know I should have just
I know I should have got her uh tattoo on
my face? A good idea.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
But they talked me out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Uh, get on your shoulder. Rashawn Slater's ex wife had
to go on Twitter because this stupid ass NFL account
talked about how Rashaan Slater got a new one hundred
and fourteen million dollar contract and the way they couched
it was charger star attack of Rashawon. Slater finalized his

(01:43:14):
divorce from his wife recently. Today he signed one hundred
and forty four million dollar contract extension with the team,
including a twenty nine million dollar signing bonus. Talk about
good timing, so he had to She had to go
on social and be like, why are you even saying
this like that? I hold nothing but support for Rashard.

(01:43:37):
His contract is not about me. I think we should
focus on what's most important here and that is his career,
his success. And then later he said it wasn't about you,
It was about Rashon keeping the money that he worked
hard for. I didn't mention your name, but he did
include her picture on this tweet.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
Well, then yes you did mention me. What the fuck
are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
And then the athlete Rashawn said, blessed to accomplish a
dream of mine with my family by my side. None
of this happens without these people and so many others
who have supported me along the way. And then he said,
just getting started looking less LFG. I just think it's
crazy because like you're supposed to be an NFL like

(01:44:20):
professional reporter. You have no inside information. Oh yeah, and
you have no inside information that this is like a
nasty divorce that she has done anything wrong. It's just
the idea of he won't have to split this money
with this bitch that he divorced, Like, let me know

(01:44:42):
you got issues without telling me you got issues?

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Man, are you getting a divorce? What's up?

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
So I just think, yeah, surprise as the NFL player though,
didn't just be like, hey bro, you're out of pocket, right, yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
I mean, and who knows what happened, like but yeah,
it's just I don't know. You just put everybody in
an awkward position. That's not even celebrating that the man
got paid, Like, uh, people hate women. Speaking of hating women,
Tyrese Halliburton got engaged to his girlfriend. I didn't even
know he was had a girlfriend. But it do make

(01:45:22):
sense though, Like when I've seen the picture of our
was like, yep, that's who he kicked it with.

Speaker 4 (01:45:27):
And he got on one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Yeah he did, and one and one leg was in
the boot in the picture. So that's her, and I
guess they've been that's been his girlfriend for a while now.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
And so yeah, I saw her. She looked different than
that first picture you showed the first picture.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
This is the first picture, chicks, that's not the first,
that's the second. So this is the second picture.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Okay, yeah, that one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
You think that looks different from this white lady.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
She looks a little ambiguous, she looks yes, she don't
look at she don't look the saying the lightning.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Is good and that one, uh you might even get
your classes check. That's a white woman as the day
as long. She looked the same in each picture.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
So you're trying to say a little dark lightning.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Her name is Jay Jones, so you're trying to say,
in this picture you think she could she might be
a sister.

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
She looked a little darker. It's all I'm saying, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
This might be your Jared Dudley's dark skinned moment happening.
Because I ain't no motherfucking way. I said, they're like
white woman right like nobody's confused.

Speaker 4 (01:46:41):
Uh, good, for her, and this is.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
All we saying for the other woman GPS. It could
have led to this secured in a bag and then
leaving them later with half.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
But you know, uh all right, let me see skip
some of these stories. Uh yeah, it don't even matter.
How about this one? What the fuck was this story?

Speaker 4 (01:47:05):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:47:07):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
We was watching the game last night and I was
high as shit, but I was like falling asleep. And
it was a w NBA game with the Valkyries, and
somebody threw a green object.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
On the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
Yes, And I was like, did they not see that object?
They just threw on the floor right, because they didn't
stop the game right away, they kept playing.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
Yes. I was like, this is not the end of NBA.
NBA would have been like the fuck is that? And yo,
ass did to get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
And then right before I drifted off, was about to
drift off, the sleep care said, is that a deal though? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
It was a green deal though they threw it on
the court. Yeah, And you can tell the people the
people on the TV thing did not know at that
time because when they hit them, was like, oh, you
could tell that they was shot. They were just trying
to find out what the green object was.

Speaker 8 (01:47:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
I don't know why this is so blurry. Probably my
internet's acting slow or something, but yeah, they just rough
a deal do a green dial dough on the court.
It was bright, like glowing the dark ass green.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
I was like, like, first of all, why did you
bring it?

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:48:10):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
And this is you can see the players faces when
they realized and it's a deal though, by the way,
look at this. Look at what they're like, Hey, it's
a deal.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
Th girl She was like what it is a what?

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Oh? But yeah, it's it's definitely oh man, now starting
to buffer. Yeah, but anyway, I just thought that was
crazy that somebody even did. And then I didn't see
what happened to the person, Like they didn't show.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
Them getting kicked out or anything, because we end not
watching the rest of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Yeah, Like, I'm like, what what do you did they
mean to throw it? Did they just keep a spirit dial? Though?
How they get it through security.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
That's my thing. How do they get it through security?

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
I guess they carry persons up in there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
This is not an NBA NBA arena because they make
you go in the hornets, they make you go through
this thing. But they kind of puffy and ship to
be like, hey, you got a thing on you.

Speaker 4 (01:49:04):
Yeah, it's plastic. It's plastic or rubber. They not, it's
not gonna set off.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
But I don't know how the security works because they
just make you walk through a thing now and then
they pat you down sometimes I don't know, Like I
wonder if it could tell the outline down and was
like uh or maybe they or maybe they was like, hey,
look it's the w n b A. People gonna be
strapped up. Okay, we're not new to this, were true

(01:49:36):
to this, but yes, I went through a fucking green
deal though, and then the ref stopped the game. But
it was so late that they stopped that game. I
was like, what, why did this take so long? But yeah,
it was what a crazy fucking because it was like.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
Lime green just sit and I was thinking, ain't nobody
gonna pick it up? Y'all gotta continue playing, right deal.

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
The And I still haven't heard who did it or
got banned or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Because you definitely to be kicked at the game because
that's one of the major rules. Don't be throwing the
objects and blah blah blah blah blah doing the.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Game we can arrest you. And I don't think people
just gonna pick it up and use it. I feel like,
you know, lost that deal though it's not being used
for anyone ever again more than likely. Uh, the Sparks
mascot got demolished by by one of the performers doing backflips.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
That's how they did not see that. The mascot that
I see that. And my thing is, whoever their spotted
person is need to be fired because you know, they
always have somebody around them the spot that's their job.
Because you can't seeing them big ass heads. That person

(01:50:55):
needs to be fired. You should have moved my ass
out the way I told them the day was coming
my way.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
And I gotta feeling the mascots ain't got no assurance.

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
You know they don't. Somebody's job is to be shure
that they don't go out get killed, Heniga.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
I gotta feeling that they just they back, just gonna
be hurt. Right, I'm being pissed.

Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
Oh my god, that's fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
It's so funny too to that song that's we Can't
No Polly.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
And you know what, this would never happen in the
NBA game because I've seen you going in matter all
time in the biggest mascots, and they because they always
have one or two people always floating with them at
all times. To be sure, no bullshit like this happened.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
I don't know y'all caring. I feel like if we
look hard enough, it's probably happened that every place that
has ever had mascots. Just yeah, mascots are just chaos.
Like the whole point, the whole point of us needing
a mascot to entertain us during halftime. It's just rampid
for people getting sucked up up.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
You know what, All the sports have hockey like, yeah,
sport have it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
I'm sure we keep going to harness games. We'll see
this happen to somebody. Well see when of them go down. Yeah,
all right, Like I said, I'll get rid of some
of the stories that aren't just fun.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
I tell you, I'd rather flip into a mascot than
a person, because at least a mascot gonna be softer, right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Miami Heat reportedly got caught up in one of the
biggest memorabilia scanned scandals of all time. Millions of dollars
worth of memorabilia has vanished. Yep, damn yep. I think
they said it took place over like the course of
like eighteen months, and they all these items are stolen

(01:52:44):
and sold on the black market, including game warn, NBA
Finals jerseys, and millions of dollars worth of Miami Heat
members and they stealing out there renal.

Speaker 4 (01:52:56):
I guess, so yeah, let's they don't be paying these
water boys and us. Okay, so they gotta get it.
I don't have videos of software actually water.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
Wow. Yeah, that's what y'all think.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
Eighteen months, that's so they just a slow roll on
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
This was Jimmy Butler, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
Out.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
That's a petty ass man. I can't believe he was
doing this for eighteen months. Wow, he was slowly packing
his ship up.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Let's see the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
I don't care about that. Oh Brandon Ingram and Glorella
might be dating. Oh yeah, they was getting cozy and
cawbo shout out the glowing on Brandon Sam.

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
I could good match.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Yeah, Like I mean, I guess the NBA girl, the
rap girl is is going after the NBA guys. I
think it's a smart investment.

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
Ah, dude, we might see at the games.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
This this them in the car together.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
I mean, he won't playing, he'll be injured, caring, He'm
gonna he's gonna be playing at the games.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
But what a better time to be with Lorilla. And
he got that extension in Toronto, Like I kind of
like it for him, kind of like it. I hope
it works out for those crazy kids. You know, we
got Clay and Megan. Now we got Blow and Brandon.
That's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:54:40):
Did you see Clay took out on the boat? Did
you the boat?

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Row?

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
I saw that. She posted it too. One of my friends,
one of my friends, is so scared that like Clay
is gonna like do her wrong or something. And I
was like, I don't know, Clay's not like them other dudes.
I just do not see like Clay. I don't see
Clay at all, like that play like that dude party.

(01:55:05):
Definitely not Tory Lanz or Tory Tory and Craig.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
Like, yeah, she had a function I think on like
something and he missed like to us like the all
start of.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
Whatever miss charity function. And he dates baddies so like
I don't like and he dates baddies quietly like he
not to be out there all up in the videos
type nigga anyway. So the fact that he's even like
this public with it, to me, I'm like that means
they feeling pretty rock steady. I don't think he would.

(01:55:40):
I don't think Clay is the type of dude to
just be like I need to be all up in
the video anyway. Kyrie Irvins claims that the world is
staged and celebrities are just actors pretending to be human.
I told you how to Kyrie's story, like his gay

(01:56:02):
his game might be serious, but his game might be serious,
is very serious. All his unseiousness happens outside that court.

Speaker 12 (01:56:11):
This whole celebrity idea is roading. The whole fame idea
easy roading. That ship was sold to us, y'all.

Speaker 8 (01:56:20):
You got people out.

Speaker 12 (01:56:20):
Here that are human, that are acting every day of
their life.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
They're not even real.

Speaker 12 (01:56:25):
They're just on NPC ship every day they acting.

Speaker 4 (01:56:29):
They don't even know.

Speaker 12 (01:56:29):
The world is a stage characters, terrible actors. It's a
lot of terrible actors out here. The world is the
stage a lot of terrible fucking actors. Though, you know
what I'm saying, I'm just.

Speaker 8 (01:56:43):
Gonna say it.

Speaker 4 (01:56:44):
I'm just gonna say it.

Speaker 12 (01:56:45):
I'm just gonna say I tried to tell Spice beforehand.

Speaker 8 (01:56:48):
I said it, But the whole idea of.

Speaker 12 (01:56:49):
Celebrity, bro, if you're not a real person and you
can't stand on your morals and principles out here.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Move out the way you can celebrity dog here as a.

Speaker 12 (01:56:59):
Person that trying to see this world become better, move
out the way for the time game, I'm not paying
attention all you know, the thiefs going.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
On, or you know, I really really really need him
to get back on the court. I just didn't even
get back on the court because I.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
Feel like I just throw basketball at him.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
He's injured, he's rehabbing, and so he can't play ball
right now. So he picked up the streaming bullshit and
the last thing the world need is more Kyrie thoughts
like we were totally fine when he was playing basketball
in Dallas. The last couple of years completely changed the

(01:57:43):
whole way I felt about that brother.

Speaker 4 (01:57:46):
And this is what Luca, Luca did for him.

Speaker 3 (01:57:48):
Luca called him down, Luca kept hi about the news, right,
that's the Luca effect.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
Just yeah, man, it's just and that's why I say,
you can't really get mad at Jason Tatum. He hurt,
but he ain't picked up the podcast. Mike, Yeah, he like,
oh he corny, he corny? Okay, well he corny real quiet.
I like that me too. He ain't on here trying
to tell me that all the celebrities is fake except him,

(01:58:19):
who's being a celebrity by not playing basketball but talking
on Twitch.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
You a celebrity. You know you're not making sense.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
Joy Taylor says she thinks she might be done talking sports.
She went on a hire learning podcast with Van Lathan
and Rachel and said, the dream now is to just disappear.
I don't want to be seventy with a mic. I
want to build things for other people to have spaces.
Not be in front facing allows you to space the

(01:58:47):
space to still create, but not have this responsibility. And
this comes with a lot of responsibility, especially if you're
somebody like me.

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
She said, which you telling me nobody's willing to hire you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
That's what I think is happening. Also, like this ring's
super hollow when you're talking about being upfront and taking responsibility,
and then the reason you were in the lawsuits that
you told a woman to just take one for the
team and fuck the CEO dude or whatever, and basically
said you wouldn't help her when she went to complain.

(01:59:20):
But your brand, your brand has been heavily on the
like feminism and being outspoken. You can't be that type
of hypocrite, I think, and still just pop right back
up after you settle well after the company settled that lawsuit.
So she was gonna have to disappear one way or
the other. And I think it will actually like affect her,

(01:59:41):
meaning whatever she decides to do in sports, this is
the kind of thing that won't go away for her.
People will always talk greasy to her. And then the
fact that she kind of leaned into, you know, talking
about relationships and dating and stuff instead of just turn
being like, let me just talk about sports, stick to sports,
be on sports TV shows talking sports. She was like, no,

(02:00:04):
I'm gonna get on these podcasts and start talking about Dayton.
Nobody wants to hear dating advice from people that have
horrible personal lives or make compromise more decisions all the time.
The reason that don't nobody want to hear that shit?
She and Sharp got to say he was terrible about
relationships the whole time. But now that he's lost this
paid this month and nobody want to hear him talk
about what women need to do, need to get out

(02:00:25):
my face, So yes.

Speaker 4 (02:00:28):
Start posting photos in the bikinis during the summer.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
I did ask a friend. I asked a friend if
I was like, you think Giry Taylor would started only
fans and she was like adamant that she wouldn't. And
I'm bro I'm sorry. I still don't put it past him.
I really don't. I know her brother is Jason Taylor.
I know she's comes from a respectable black background. Ball.
I'm not saying when people think only fans, they always

(02:00:51):
think it's like this raunchy triple X shit. I'm saying
there's plenty of people posting just regular shit on only
fans that they would post on Instagram, and they're making
lots of mone honey doing.

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
Yes they are, and it's and it's just like you say,
fully clothes and everything. It's nothing. No Gena does nothing
sexual quote unquote about it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
Yeah, so we'll see I wouldn't you know, maybe that's
what they do. Marcus Morris, Shannon Sharp, Gilberterenas, Joy Taylor.
They start their own sports network canceled sports and everything.

Speaker 4 (02:01:23):
Everybody got.

Speaker 3 (02:01:24):
Everybody got standards till them bills get dude, Oh you're
talking for.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
The only fans. Yeah. I just don't think it's much
of a stretch for.

Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
Her to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
Uh, let's see people, mm hmmm. Uh, let's see two
time Olympic gold medalist Laura. Uh what was it, dollarmere?

Speaker 4 (02:01:45):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:01:45):
Dad at thirty one? Out there? Climbing accident?

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
What is we climbing?

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
It just said climbing accident. She was struck by a
falling rock while climb in the Laila Peak in Pakistan
on Monday.

Speaker 1 (02:02:03):
Oh damn.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
Her climbing partner, Marina Ever sent out a distress signal,
but helicopters could not be dispatched due to low visibility
and poor weather. Who I didn't even think about that's
one of the ways you can die in one of
these climbing thing. I thought maybe she slipped and fell
a fucking rock just came from somewhere. Hiring was like,
today's the day I dropped at this angles precisely and

(02:02:27):
you dead and.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
Pop you.

Speaker 4 (02:02:31):
Now, that's when you sold me a not going.

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
Okay. So this is different than the crew.

Speaker 1 (02:02:40):
Climbate is too far.

Speaker 4 (02:02:44):
Watch too much.

Speaker 3 (02:02:47):
On these other shows Channel W they'd be like always
checked to see if the spouts the one did it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
But and I guess, you know, like it makes sense
because you're a two time gold medalist and like.

Speaker 1 (02:03:01):
You fit, you fit.

Speaker 2 (02:03:03):
I was gonna, no, I was gonna say, it makes
sense because they're probably always doing challenging things. So like
you know, like who knows how many times she's done
something and been just fine. Like that dude that got
killed in the sky diving accident or some ship, and
it was like, well, you know he had the he's
had the record from jumping from space. He was gonna like, yes,

(02:03:26):
he was gonna die doing something one day. Same way
I'm okay with Tom Cruise dying like this. He's gonna
die doing some crazy ship or something. You just keep
you just keep rolling. The dice young crap out eventually
rest in peace. Well, I guess at least they can
never say she fell off. Uh at tempted attempted breaking

(02:03:49):
reported at the home of All Star Picture yo Chernobyl
Yoma Moto during Dodgers road trip. Now I thought they
had busted the dude. It to the NFL players, So
is this a copycat ring?

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
Might be? Might be?

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Yeah, like somebody got the Maybe they realized how easy
it was.

Speaker 4 (02:04:11):
They said it was easy.

Speaker 3 (02:04:12):
Just don't flash, Just don't flash the goods on Instagram
like them other dummies, and you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (02:04:20):
I wonder at this point, though, are they even does
it even matter if you flash and loot? If they
just know your schedule.

Speaker 1 (02:04:27):
Right because they know when your home games, your away games,
you know, because all that shit just put basically public records.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
Yeah, I wonder, and then uh, Aaron Rodgers got caught
on camera being a dick to a little kid, which
totally totally is in character for him. Got caught on
camera being Aaron Rodgers, the worst thing a man can do.

(02:04:55):
So this this little kid threw him, threw him a
football for him to throw back. So the kid throws
Aaron Rodgers the football. Aaron Rodgers does not catch it,
but once it hits the ground, I guess, he goes
over to get it and the boy wants him to

(02:05:17):
throw it back. He looks at the boy and then
throws it into the stands to somebody else, and the
boy looks heartbroken. And later on Aaron Rodgers said, the
boy ran the wrong route. Yep, so just being a

(02:05:37):
dick pretty funny, Pretty funny is funny.

Speaker 8 (02:05:43):
But he was.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
He's definitely also in line with him being a dick,
like he stays on brand. And the last, the last thing,
Candice Parker has been kind of catching it on in
w n B a Twitter because like she said that
Angel Reese is not like an elite player or something,

(02:06:04):
and that's been the whole thing for like a couple
of weeks now and now it's almost like spiraling out
because every time she's on the mic, she's like justifying
that opinion, and people are like, oh, you're trying to
act like it's like the wn You try to act
like the NBA players that don't give credit to the
current NBA players. You know, you're turning everything into this

(02:06:25):
Angelies thing. But she also did not like what the
WNBA players did during All Star Weekend when they wore
the shirt saying pay us what you owe us.

Speaker 10 (02:06:34):
Y'all and you I, hey, listen, I'm gonna tell you
you don't have to say anything.

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
So I'm practice, I'm gonna be your vet.

Speaker 10 (02:06:39):
Don't but y'all cannot come out there with those shirts
of pay us what you owe us, Yes, pay us
what you owe us, and then.

Speaker 1 (02:06:51):
Do that in the All Star Game. Here's the thing, though,
here's the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (02:06:54):
Because she said they weren't playing hard in the All
Star Game, which nobody does.

Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
Nobody does this All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (02:07:00):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 8 (02:07:00):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, here's
the thing.

Speaker 13 (02:07:03):
We come out every single night and we show why
we deserve the money we deserve an All Star Game
and All Star Game where when we have another game
in two days, I think that is okay to just
go out there and hoop and have some fun. Because
on Tuesday we were back at it and we were

(02:07:23):
playing and we were showing once again why we deserve
to get paid.

Speaker 2 (02:07:28):
Like I don't under y'all. Shout out to I think
that's Leah Boston. Shout out to Leah Boston for holding
it down because I thought, because you know, a lot
of times when you did, the rookie, the young one
and then the veteran is given some game or some knowledge,
a lot of times younger people don't feel comfortable pushing back,
even on their own platform. Especially when she said, uh,

(02:07:51):
I'm gonna say this for you, so you don't have
to say nothing. I think a lot of people would
have took, you know, been like yeah, and I appreciate.
I think that was actually yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
She bought a good point. She was like, yeah, bitch, Tuesday,
we got to play again, like come on now, you know.
And it's also one of those things where they do
need to pay us what they owe us, like what
are we doing here, Like the men don't have to
do this because they're already being paid.

Speaker 3 (02:08:17):
Especially coming from Canadas who definitely got checks. I mean,
you know, I know she played overseas. I know she
hated talked about playing overseas, the distance from her daughter,
having to take her daughter over there, like we remember
the articles and all of a sudden she forgot. But
you got checks to Candis, so I can understand you
might have slightly different feelings now, but we the North

(02:08:39):
remembers and yeah, let these let these newer players be
like get to the bag.

Speaker 4 (02:08:44):
Don't be ahead of y just.

Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
Get get get to the bag. And it's one of
these things. I feel the same way about this like
I do about student loans. A lot of people feel like, well,
I had to struggle, I had to work three jobs
or whatever to play my student loans. You should too, No, bitch,
I don't. I don't want you to have to struggle.
I shouldn't have had to did it, but I did
it because I had to, because it was a time.
Things change and things evolve when you kind of have

(02:09:07):
to grow and adjust to it. And the thing is, uh,
these players, they're different. They're not going to be the same.
The league has changed. And it's okay if you don't
know care or like first dollar game, but just to
it's like just to outright dismiss is like, like that's
the problem because.

Speaker 2 (02:09:26):
They're also in a different situation and Cannis Owens people
or when they was coming to this, I mean Cannas Parker,
Oh my god, that's how that's how much I an't
like her opinion. But that's like they're also just they
have a different type of leverage. Yes, and I understand
that that has not worked out in the past for WNBA,

(02:09:48):
Like there's been times where they thought, they like the
young players, like we need to do a strike, and
then they got a bad deal because they did on
the strike instead of the offer they could have taken.
I just think if that is a mistake they're gonna make,
then they you got to allow them to make it right,
because if there's a time to double down on, like
y'all need to pay.

Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
Us, it's now right.

Speaker 2 (02:10:08):
And if they don't around, and if they don't get
a good deal, y'all are going to ship on them.
If they just go along with everything, take whatever they
offered and don't play any hardball, y'all are going to
be like, look at them, they didn't negotiate a good deal.
This is what they get, just going along to get along.
And I'm so sorry, Like I respect Kennis Parker tremendously,

(02:10:30):
just Maade from day one, and I'll she knows more
about basketball than I'll ever know. But this feels like
some shock level hating, Yes, because who the fuck cares
about how hard people played in the All Star Game
when we're talking about TV contracts and shit like that,
when we're talking about that kind of money for years,

(02:10:52):
we're not talking about how much wool players can make
for the All Star Game. We're talking about how much
they're gonna make for playing all the games. And there's
nobody is sitting around like, yeah, man, we were gonna
give them a fifty percent split, but then they didn't
play hard in the All Star Game, so we're gonna
keep it at the nine percent. Did they get right now?

(02:11:14):
So it just seemed crazy to even bring that up.
And I'm not saying that this kind of stuff doesn't
happen in men's sports, because that's normally to go to
as people go, well, you wouldn't talk about it in
the men's game, Yes, they would do. The problem is
the way we talk about men's sports is stupid. Yes,
Like I like that the WNBA doesn't try to mirror

(02:11:38):
the men's game, and I think it's a big mistake
for a lot of people to assume that it needs
to in order to blow up, because that's why you
see so many of these media types talking so condescending
down to WNBA players in WNBA fans, cause they're like,
turn it into what we do to the NBA, like,
be unfair to the players, say crazy shit about people

(02:12:00):
have horrible opinions that go viral to harass the players,
try to gold them in the same stuff in the
media so you can have controversy. That's what they think
works for the other sports, and they're like, do that
to WNBA teams, and it's like that culture is so
much more rock solid. Those women stick together. Those women
have mostly like all experienced some level of marginalization, if

(02:12:22):
not double triple levels for a lot of women, and
they've decided to erect a front around them that says,
we don't tolerate no bullshit, you know. And I think
if you don't appreciate that culture and the people in it,
you just end up sounding kind of uninformed of being like,
why don't they just be like the NFL or something.

(02:12:43):
It's like, they'll never be like that, because, you know what,
the NFL will never have players that will stand up
and be like, get this owner out of here. They'll
never have that for real, not like the owner had
to basically own slaves for the NFL to do that shit,
or to be like we wearing these shirts and it's
gonna piss everybody off, and we just gonna do it
fuck y'all, you know, And you.

Speaker 3 (02:13:05):
Can't talk to a league that's got the best of
the best of that pure uncut raw like they all
those women like no, I'm at the top, were all
at the top.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
We deserve, right, But I mean, I mean, but I
feel like I feel like every league is the players
are gonna feel that way. Like, So I don't think
that's I don't think that part is even though it's
I agree it is more true of the WNBA than
any of these other leagus. Don't get me wrong justin
I'm with you. I'm just saying I don't even think
that's part of the The reason these women are prepared

(02:13:38):
to fight different is because it's not even like we
are the best they really is like, we don't tolerate
nothing like we like, we just don't play that shit.
We don't tolerate this disrespect that y'all take. We the
first ones to walk off, were the first ones to
say no game tonight if we think some shit is

(02:13:58):
fucked up, the first ones to put on them Black
Lives Matter shirts way before everybody thought it was cool.
When y'all were still equivaling over shit Capepernick take a
knee or not, we was past that. So this idea
of like we need to advise these women on how
to be tougher negotiators, I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (02:14:14):
I really don't think we do, because to your point,
the Bubble Championship didn't They protests that night and be
like something else did.

Speaker 2 (02:14:25):
Yes, man, they different. I just I think a lot
of their advice and I get it, it's coming hopefully
good places. I don't think Candas Parker is a bad person,
but I just think it's hard for people to see
this and go, y'all work it out, like I just whatever, y'all.
Because the other thing is, I think they're gonna have
to be willing to live with the consequences. So if
somehow they overstep and they end up in a bad

(02:14:47):
negotiated a weaker spot. I think this is the league
that would be like, Okay, we took our shot and
we gotta deal with it.

Speaker 4 (02:14:54):
Like they when you got and look at it like, oh,
we got a few more spots and and when you.

Speaker 2 (02:15:00):
Have so, little man, that's the time to fight.

Speaker 3 (02:15:03):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (02:15:03):
They're not getting enough. So y'all want them to be
scared to lose what a fifty thousand dollars job, right, Like,
like that's the no because I can go get that somewhere.
I can go not play basketball, not get.

Speaker 1 (02:15:18):
Beat up and make that because a lot of them
have degree on right, Yeah, they had to have more
degrees than most of the other mess.

Speaker 2 (02:15:26):
Required to say that, So yeah, man, that's it all right, y'all.
Thank y'all for listening. I won't get into her and
the ag ofies thing because I haven't been following in
that close and I know people keep calling her a
hater and shit, but I truly can't tell if that's
just say. Every time she's on a mic, they keep
asking her about it. So every time she's on a mic,

(02:15:47):
she tries to clarify, and then every time she clarifies,
unless she was just gonna come out and be like,
I'm sorry, Angelice is the greatest of all time, people
gonna get mad. It just seemed like an a cycle
that's never gonna end till she goes no comment, So
good luck to her on that. All right, y'all, we'll
talk to you next week. Until then, peace, Peace,

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