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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 5 (00:34):
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you here this week.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
We are going out on the new on twenty five,
so we're going into the new year with a lot
of fun. We've got some friends here from the Inflection
Network and iHeart Media, the black guy who tips podcast
Rotten Carrod. You may have heard I was on their
show a couple of weeks ago where we're paying the favor.
(01:10):
They will be right here on Laugh with Me in
just a few moments. Oh man, I can't wait to
talk to them. So they're actually they're based out of
North Carolina, I think Charlotte. So just to give you
a little bit of background, they have been in the
game here, the podcast game, for over sixteen years, so
(01:32):
you could say they were there before well really any
of us, I mean before a lot of the things
going on in the podcast world. They were there, and
now it's so cool to kind of to talk to
them and just kind of hear their story and how
they got started and then to where they're at now now.
It's it's quite the production they've got going on over
(01:54):
there at Black Guy Who Tips podcast. And we got
to hear about this name too, because I didn't. I
meant to ask them when I was on their show,
like what's with the name? Like, where'd that come from?
I just I've been thinking about it ever since, ever
since I was on their show a couple of weeks ago.
I'm like, I never even found out where the name
came from. We'll make sure to We'll make sure to
follow up with them, see what's going on. But before
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we get to them, what's going on. We are finishing
up twenty twenty five and we are doing it strong.
Lots coming up in twenty six, all kinds of episodes
coming your way, right, Johnny, I mean, Johnny, Johnny, here's
the thing. When when Rod and Karen Cole, I don't
(02:35):
need you piping in. Okay, let's not let's not mess
this up. We're gonna we I'm excited to have them
on the show, so let's not mess it up with
your ill timed sound effects, ill timed jokes. You've got this,
isn't it?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Buddy?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Been dealing with him lately, been dealing with him in
a lot of ways, right, Johnny, the son of a bitch. Well,
Rod and Karen are coming up, and just honestly, I'm
just once a call. We're gonna hop right into it
because I think you're really gonna enjoy their story. Really funny,
(03:20):
both of them, their their chemistry is in incredible. But yeah, Johnny, Noah,
how was your How was your Christmas? Was it good?
That was a joke?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Okay, it's too bad. Hopefully you liked my gift, which
was absolutely nothing. I'll tell you what, Johnny. One thing
that you should learn is not to expect a Christmas
gift from those who employ you. Ask Clark Chriswold for example,
had he really thought about this and not expected this bonus?
(03:58):
And you can't really can't garantee and plan on bonuses.
That fella did and he tried to put in the
pool and ended up with the gift certificate or the
subscription or whatever. He ended up the Jelly's a month
or whatever it was. Just don't guarantee those. That's all
I'm gonna say. Next year twenty six, Johnny, do not
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expect a gift. I know you did this year. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just don't think that's how
it works. I don't know how we got sidetracked on this, Johnny.
All right, well right, they are calling it right now,
let's get to it. It is Rod Karen The Black
(04:44):
Guy Who Tips podcast and remember you can hear them
anywhere that you listen to your favorite podcasts, including the
free iHeart Radio app Roddy Cared The Black Guy Who
Tips Pie Welcome to laugh with me. Uh, it was
awesome to be on your on your show here a
(05:06):
couple of weeks now ago. I guess. Uh. First thing
I want to know is like, where did you get
the name? Like how what was the inspiration behind your
podcast name.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I used to have a blog on Tumblr back in
the Tumblr days, uh, and it was called the Black
Guy Who Tips because I was a waiter for many
years and there's a stereotype that black people don't tip,
and uh, you know, there's a bunch of other uh
you know, stuff to it. But I was like, well,
if you know me, I disagree. I think black people
(05:43):
do tip, especially if you give us good service. But uh,
if you know me, then you know at least one
black person who does tip. So maybe stop saying black
people don't tip, you know, just start with me and
then branch out get the more, know more black people
in your that many of us tip, many of us overtip,
purpose over compensate for a bunch of stuff we can control.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, even when we get batch service bill over tip.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So it's just uh, you know. That's how it started.
And then the podcast. When I started a podcast, I
would have named it the Rod and Karen Show or something,
but Karen wasn't sure she would be the co host.
She thought I would get rid of her because she
wouldn't be funny enough. Now, three thousand episodes later, she's
(06:30):
never not done an episode with me.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Can trick me?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Because I was like, what is this out of any rules,
any regulations?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I was like, I'm gonna be terrible. So we named
it The Black Out Tips.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Basically I named it that so that she wouldn't feel
like any pressure to be a part of it. But
obviously she's half of the show.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Oh yeah, well it's super interesting because as soon as
you like read the name, you're like, Okay, where is
this going? But if you know, like kind of where
that's from, I mean, it's it's funny though, it's really funny.
So Karen Carrit, you you thought you were going to
get kicked off the show.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
But for me, when we first started podcasting, podcasting was
a thing that people did, but it wasn't the thing
that common people did. Most celebrities, you know, like people
that were already established kind of did podcasting and understood radio.
But I didn't understand the full concept of podcasting. So
I was like, what are the rules or the regulations,
(07:30):
you know, how your brain processes as radio. I was like,
I don't know if i'na be good like so you know,
I don't I don't want to make an obligation because
if I suck at it, I'll do behind the scenes
things like it because my brain was processing it as.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Hey, I don't ready know.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I'm confused, so I don't want I don't want to
quote unquote make a fool.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
But that was just trick me to getting me to
do the show. I didn't know it at the time.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
That's awesome. Well, Rob was smart to have you on
there because like, and obviously your your chemistry is incredible
and it's it's obvious reasons. Uh, but uh, to have
somebody with you to bounce off of, you know, and
just kind of go back and forth with it just
makes it so much better. And then to be doing
it for so long. So if I remember correctly, you
(08:20):
guys said you started what sixteen years ago or.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So basically, yeah, twenty ten January after hands around in there.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Holy cow and what so. And it went from went
from the blog to the podcast. I guess what was
Rod when you were like, Okay, I'm starting a podcast.
What like, what was the inspirations there? I guess what
was your thought process of here's this thing, let's go
with it, this is the next move.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So for me, it was I listened to a podcast
called Keith and the Girl, which was two people in
there that weren't so evities that were doing a podcast
in their spare bedroom and they got a hate listener,
like some hate email one time, and the person was like,
your job is so easy. You work an hour day,
(09:11):
you don't do anything, and you expect to make money
off of this. And this was before podcast was lucrative,
and their response was kind of like, hey, if it's
so easy, you do it, Like, there's a lot of
work behind the scenes. You guys don't see.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's not just sitting down and coming up with an
hour yes. And so.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
When they were responding to that person, I took the
part of it that was, hey, if it's so easy,
why don't you do it? And I went, oh, yeah,
I mean, no one's stopping me from doing this. No,
there's no gatekeepers, there's no radio station, there's no person
I need to impress.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
If I believe that I had the.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Gift of gab and I can be funny, I can
at least throw my ring in the hat and buy
the microphone and recording equipment and try it. And so
that was the impetus to take the blog, which was
mostly just random thoughts, funny stories and just random things,
and said, hey, maybe people will listen to me and
my wife talk about these random funny things and and
(10:13):
uh and serious things sometimes and all that, and that's
really where it started.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, that's all it's And back then, sixteen years ago,
microphones the recording equipment like for this weren't necessarily readily
accessible like now you can find them at Target, you know,
you find out Walmart. There's like a all encompassing kit
to get going.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, we were pre Skype, we were we were pre
a lot of things, pre Stitcher.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
We were pre a lot of things that don't even
exist anymore.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So where did you go? Like where like where did
you go to look for equipment? And then how how
did you decide from there?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, there was a few phases, but the first episode
we ever recorded is probably the one that ensured that
we would be podcasts profession strut because we had to
buy all the stuff and try to record multiple times
without without it working. So we had a desktop microphone
that was really just designed for like rudimentary like maybe
(11:16):
maybe gamers of the old days, like it's a little
microphone on your desk, and we wear some headphones. We
couldn't record with that. We had to go get a
new computer. The computer sound card we bought it didn't work,
and we thought, this is that try recording two or
three times. We thought it was our fault. It was
the computer's fault. We returned it back to that by
(11:37):
that night, with about twenty minutes left before they closed
for the night. Yep, and they switched it out for
a different model of the same one.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
We brought it back home. It did work this time.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
We ended up recording that first episode three or four times.
And if you ever listened to our first episode it's
called the Love Cast, you can hear it in our voices.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Because it was like eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We weren't sure that was recording because we had already
recorded like three or four hours that day that knowing
heard right, and so we were like, hey, I hope
this is working.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And then we looked at each other and how do
we get it up on our tunes?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, So it was like really building the ship as
it came together. And then over the years we learned
through trial and error and some different like techniques to record.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
We used to use a blue.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Snowball USB MIT and we were record with our desktop
speakers so we could have guests and play music in
the background just so we were just bots, yeah, just
random stuff before we even had a mix or anything. So, uh,
that was like a lot of the old school like mentality,
(12:49):
and I think it's been beneficial to us because as
podcasting brows and changes and evolved, we can always go
back to our base of you know, we did this
when it was much harder to put together, so we
will always have those skills and they can't leave us.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
All right.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
You have people now that jump into podcasts and it
doesn't even know what the RSS feed is, so it's like, oh, okay,
they they've really streamline.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's spider. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I mean even like a few years ago when I
got started my first guest, I had on by putting
my cell phone, uh speaker up to the microphone and
hoped it would translate, like hoping it would record. You know.
I was like, I don't know if anyone's ever going
to hear this because it may not actually record, but
this is what I got here. Here we are.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
We're gonna roll with it absolutely man.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
So I mean it's perfect too because you got your
setup now is awesome. You've got a beautiful you know,
video that people can watch as you're recording. And I
it was like, oh when I first logged onto your Guys' show,
was it so?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Like music going in the waiting room? Is that just
like a like a pregame, like hey, we're we're gearing up,
we're getting listeners kind of logged in. Is that kind
of the thought process there to kind of build the party,
so to speak.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, because we've been using crowdcasts.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
We've we've been around so long that some of the
other video type recording clash things like vocal a lot
of them don't even exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So what we do is we.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Use crowdcasts dot io Anda have an app, so when
we go live, it pushes emails out and then it
pushes through the phone let people know that we're live.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
We also post on social media, so we.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Want to give people time to actually be like, hey,
they're live, let me check in from wherever they are.
So about fifteen to twenty minutes Rogic Wali kind of
warm up and play music and things like that to
give people time to you know, come in and check
in and things like that. And yeah, we've come a
long way now. We have like it's we're actually in
the same room. Because sometimes people ask, like, y'all in
the same room. Yes, we're actually in the same room.
(14:51):
We have like two separate monitors and all that stuff.
So that's why it looks like we're in like two
different worlds, but we're actually in the same room.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, I think the other thing too, is playing the
music and whatever when I'm show prepping. It gives people
time to come in the room. And then that chat
room has gotten very familiar with each other. Yes, so
it's become like a little bit of a communal space
and you'll see people checking in and being like, hey,
how your grandmama doing, you know, and it's like, well,
that's that's like a cool thing that it wasn't something intentional,
(15:21):
but it's been a cool side benefit of building a community.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, you can't beat that when you get to the
point of building a community and youvet your fans just
kind of chatting amongst each other, you know, with each
other like there's oh there's something specially you guys have
built there. The Black Eye Tips podcast new episodes weekly.
You got to check it out. We're actually we're both
a part of the Inflection Network and iHeartMedia, so that's
(15:46):
how that's how we met. But make sure to check
them out weekly. I mean, you guys tend to go
through like pop culture topics from time to time.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You know, Yeah, what are some things you guys are
gop culture?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
What's the things you guys got your eyes on right now?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Man, So it's politics.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Pop culture and comedy is our main things on our
on our main feed, pop culture stuff. I feel like
it's really intertwining with politics so heavily now that it's
like it's dragging both things down not up, you know.
I like, I kind of like, don't like my peanut
butter mixed with my chocolate when it's talking about politics
(16:27):
my mo. But like Nicki Minaj has decided that she's
going to be like a Trump maga person. And it
was already like bad when Nicki was just like a
regular troll, crazy person on Twitter, like celebrity, but now
she's branching into like politics, and you're like, man, like
this just sucks both ways.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Like I don't want to listen to.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Your music because it wasn't good lately, but now I
do want to listen to your music because I gotta
make some type of political stance, Like what are you doing, buddy?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Calm down? So those kind of things infiltraded.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
When I saw her on stage, it was with Erica
I believe, right, and yeah, she she was going on
and then immediately the next day she's deleting her Instagram.
I'm like, well, that didn't go over well, because you
have to either be all in or just stay out
of it all together. And she couldn't handle that.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
So, uh was in my mind, I'm like, what was
her endgame?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Like in her mind if this thing went perfectly, was
she supposed to get off stage? Everyone's on Instagram cheering
her and there everyone's like, thank god you finally said something, Nikki.
We were all just waiting for you to say it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
The rest of us are just pretending not to like
this stuff. But now that you made it okay, well
you know nothing but likes and heart emotionis all over
your Instagram. I'm like, where were you paying attention to?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Daddy?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And both of those women, in my opinion, are delusional,
And I think that's what it is like. I think
Nikki has been in the bubble with no matter what
she did, good, bad, or and different, she's consistently praised.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
So it's on social media.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
On social media, so in her mind she's like, why
is this any different?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I'm still doing me?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Why is this any different? And people was like, no,
you kind of cross the line with this one.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, it's it's It is interesting because these types of topics,
especially in that world that she has stepped right into
is so like polarizing. You know, it is not a
It's not a mix of like you said, Hey, I
was already kind of not listening to your music just
because of the music, but now I'm avoiding it and
(18:31):
some people can I don't know, take the art and
like Kanye right, like he's done so much to drive
away people. But then you can go back and the
catalogs so good, like do you do you yea?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Can can you like separate that? I guess the crazy
in life versus the art? Or does that really reflect
you know, is NICKI? Are you done with Nicki?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Now?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
If she continues down this path? Like do you not separate?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That? For me? Been really simple.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I can separate art from from people's whatever. Like I
feel like I've been doing it my whole life.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I think a big part of that is, uh being
a child of like the hip hop era. Most of
the stuff I listened to in a hip hop song
and stuff I would not do right, you know, Like
my whole life has been like, no, I don't want
to sell drugs. I'll listen to you rap about selling drugs.
Actually pimping is pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, I don't know if you guys have read up
on this pimping thing, but it's pretty good. Yeah, don't
beat the holes. What are we doing here, sir?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So, I think I think I've just kind of been
prepared my whole life for this idea of like, oh, no,
I enjoyed this thing, but this is not something. This
is not a person I would hold in high esteem, uh,
for their for any you know, their politics, of their morals.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And so maybe it's like the rest of.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
The world is kind of coming into this era of like, oh,
I see what you mean. Like, I it's nice when
you can listen to somebody like say a Beyonce and
then go man, and I really like how much charity
she does, or I really like the political stances she takes.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's a luxury, but it's not my default at all.
So it's actually very easy for me to like play
old Kanye West or something same. The only stuff that
will really get through is when the art is the politics.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yes, So like if.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Like Kanye's newer stuff is him trying to be a troll,
I can't listen to.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
That because it's like this isn't as good as the
old stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And I'm not following you because I'm interested in what
you think about Magga. I'm completely turned off by that.
So you know R Kelly singing about little girls, right,
I'm never gonna be able to listen to that.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Right because in my opinion, that blends together, which is
a completely different thing. Like your art is actually the crime,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's different.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And also for a lot of people, depending on your age.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You have always separated it because if you ask.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Me, by older artists that they love, a lot of
those artists be women. A lot of those artists did drugs,
a lot of those artists did a lot of things,
but for some reason, because they were quote unquote of
a certain time.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
People mentally have these separations.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I think we didn't know and I think also we
didn't have social media. Agree, So, like there's a difference
between like knowing James Brown beat women and like it
being some article you might did that happen, and then
like going on Instagram live and James Brown's like I
be beating women.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You're like, damn, yeah, that ain't the same.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Well, it's like Michael Jackson, the you know, the king
of pop, the biggest pop star in the world. You
had him in the news, you know, with his allegations,
but then again, there wasn't social media, so it's not
like you were directly hearing, you know, things from him, right,
But then you go to the music and you're like, damn,
like this is too good to listen to.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's kind of wild with Michael Jackson. I saw we
go through the movies a love We see a lot
of movies, and the last movie I went to there
was a trailer for a Michael Jackson biopic.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
And I was just like, this feels like.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Something that should never happen, right, So how are you
gonna purfect?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
How are you ever going to cover that period of
his life with those allegations?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Either it comes off heartless, like you're just like kids
just be lying, or or you're like his music was
so good, we don't even carry but he just don't
even unless you're like in the bio pic in like
nineteen eighty eight, I just don't even understand how they
got that green lip, but yeah, they keep trying to
make it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
And also, I think I've come to a conclusion that
that great people do terrible things.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Disagree that's tall kinds of great people. No, that's that's terrible.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
People can do great things. It is not all. There's
a lot of great people that are probably fine. That's
what I'm I said that the opposite, like my brain,
my brain, that's what my brain was thinking.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
It's like I got terrible people that actually can make
great thinks. So you know, I'm like, yes, you're a
piece of shit, But I also I understand at this
art is good.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Right, Yeah, I totally see that. And honestly, not everybody
needs a bio pick. I mean it seems like they.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Want to if you have some sticky situations.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Man, I just feel like Hollywood should just stay away
from from me stories.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It can't be.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It can't.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
What's the best case scenario.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Is that the movie does well, and then the conversation
that we have is about how you left out all
of this abuse so you can't even really enjoy the
fruits of your labor. Like, uh, We've seen that with
so many movies over the years, like The Green Book
or something where the movie does okay in the theaters. Uh,
some people think it's like, oh, it's a pretty good story,
(23:45):
and then the whole story comes about what was left out, right,
So by the time you went an oscar like myhrschel
letn wins an oscar and we're all like, are you
gonna apologize? Marshal U was the happiest moment of your life?
But do you want to say you're sorry for being
in this? It's too much.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
It's too much. Not everybody needs it, that's for sure. Okay,
So you talk about separating the art and whatnot, and like,
we didn't know. Here's an here's an instance that I
think is very possible, and we will have known, and
then will the audience is gonna have to decide if
they can get in? Okay, So we know what the
(24:22):
deal is with Diddy, right, and he's serving his time.
He's gonna get out at some point. I mean, he's
just he's gonna get out at some point and he's
gonna go right back to work. Do we do we?
Then you think, like, even if it's he just starts
putting out some bangers, you know, are we gonna do
you think as a as a society, are we going
(24:43):
to listen to it? Are we gonna embrace it and
be like, didd he's back, he did it, He served
his time, or do you think he's pretty much he's
pretty much toast.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I think it's gonna be somewhere in the middle. YEP,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Like.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I don't because one, I don't think he's ever gonna
make good music again. It would be honest. He hadn't
made good music before he went to jail. Like it's
been a while.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Like I'm trying to think the last time.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Diddy was was popular. It might have been when he
made that Godzilla song or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's just a long time, yeah, two thousands.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, bro, it's been a minute, And so I don't
I doubt he'll be able to like make it back
musically in that way. But what I do fear is
that he'll socially make it back, meaning you'll start seeing
people that take a picture with him, or he was
invited to this event, or you know, or just maybe
(25:37):
even just a statement of like, oh Diddy is very
hurt that he was not invited to the Soul Train
Awards or just some bullshit like that. I think you'll see,
but I think it'll kind of be like how Kanye
is a little bit where he's around, but nobody's really
messing with Kanye, Like that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, like you don't see artists signing up to do things.
Nobody's clawing him to make their beats and none of that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, he has songs that come out every once in
a while, but none of them are charting, which I
mean if you would have told me ten years ago,
even I would have said, you're a damn liar.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Right, Like, like.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Ten years from now, nobody Kanye West will have a
whole year with not one song on the top. However,
many hip hop I'll be like, that's impossible.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Did he die? Like what is?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And now I'm like, no, I totally see it. So
I'm hopeful did he just loses his cultural relevance even more?
And that it just you know, he just starts looking
like a clinger on Loser that he probably always has been,
but now people will be able to see through it.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, to your point about Kanye, the next time his
music truly is relevant probably will be when he dies.
I mean that's usually when when an artist passes away,
that it just they explode again for a period of time,
you know, as people remember. Yeah, I would imagine that's
got to mean he's he says he I just saw
something from yesterday that he's got any album he's working
(27:03):
on or one coming soon, and it's just there's no
way he's going to get the full on press tour
and whatever it takes to make it work.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But right you know, it's mad.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
We know it's bad for Kanye because people do work
with him on his albums and I don't even get
mad at them because I don't listen. I don't know,
Like I'm sure if I go looking him up on
Spotify right now, his last album probably has some features
on it where I'm like, oh wow, Chance the Rapper
or whatever, and.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No one's even mad at those people. We're all just
like whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
And I guess in my mind when it comes to Kanye,
I'm like, y'all do know he's office mad like like
like in my brain, I have some form of empathy
to an extent because I was like, oh no, no, no, no,
no no, Like this is not a normal functioning brain.
So I can't really give you all my undivided attention,
you know, for me personally.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah, Well, one of the like ways, I guess those
artists are the kind of canceled artists are still getting
out and finding I guess a level of income that
they need is like going overseas or going to Saudi Arabia,
you know, going somewhere and performing and get and getting
paid handsomely for it. Some blowback from that, you know,
(28:20):
for for a lot of folks that there's the Have's
just had a comedy festival in Riod. You know that
that all the comics were just getting crushed for going
over and performing there. But on the flip side, for
years pop stars like Beyonce have gone over and performed
for the kings and not necessarily gotten that long standing
(28:43):
like blowback. Why why do you think that is that
the like that right now comedians in general are getting
seen or being held to a higher standard in that regard.
Are you familiar with that story?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
For me personally, a lot of these commit they stood
they stood on business. They consistently would talk shit about
other comedians about how they were doing it wrong.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
A lot of them.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Stood on They're very righteous about their decision making and
things like that, and so going over there was the
opposite of everything that they stood for for some of them.
Like the thing is, people say that, but nobody said
that about Kevin Hart White because they know Kevin Hart's
about that money, So it don't matter where he pop up.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
You know what I'm saying, Like like he's.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Very neutral, you know what I'm saying, He's not trying
to offend nobody, He'm not trying.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
To make nobody mad. So for he was kind of
the exception to the rule.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
But a lot of these people have very big podcasts,
very loud voices, and they talk a lot of shit.
So people are going to be like, hey, I'm your
audience member, I follow you.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Going over there is.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
The opposite of everything you just told me on your podcast,
and so that's why a lot of them got to
blow back.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, I think it's very interesting because like Bill Burr
is one of the people who deride it beyond that
performing that like either the wedding or something like that,
and then he's now defending himself performing at the behest
of the Saudi Prince. And is that fund that you
(30:15):
know comes directly from the people that you know, murder journalists,
you know, so like it is, it's I think it's
more interesting to me that comedians. And I'm a big
fan of comedy, big fan of stand up, big fan
of Bill Berry, even big fan of Chappelle. Uh you
know as well, but it is just greed, right, Like
(30:38):
we want it all. We want to be seen as
the philosophers, the more arbiters, the people that tell the
truth no matter what. But then it's like when it's
their turning, like I just need to get a check man,
y'all call him down. What's the problem? I can't go
get a check?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Are getting checked right, I'm accepted to the room. So
I think that's why they're catching more heat because somebody
like Beyonce, she's not really like her job in a
song is to do one thing, but it's not the
same as like getting up and doing a stand up
set or doing a podcast or whatever, where you're like,
let me call some ball and strikes, tell you guys
(31:15):
who's right and wrong. And so maybe in that way,
some of these artists get to live in a gray
area where they make music but you don't really know.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
What they're about.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Comedians are kind of like, no, if you listen to
my stand up, you know what I'm really about. So
I think maybe that hurt them a lot. And then
also you have the inter comedian jealousy and other stuff
where like comedians that didn't get to call or comedians
that turned the call down or like, well, how the
hell you going over there? So I think that's another
reason that that thing caught fire in a way that
(31:48):
it might not with music, because like, if Rihanna wants
to go over there and perform, maybe there's some artists
that calls her out, but none of us is really
like listening to that artist. You're like, what Rihanna didn't perform?
Was you know that Amy Marie says she don't like that.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
We'll be like.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Whatever, man, But when Bill Bird doesn't perform and then
the person calling him out is like the number one
podcaster in the world or whatever, it's like, okay, yeah,
that that might get a little bit more traction.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I thought it was interesting the all the comedians that
were just that were not on the show that were
hating on those that were on the show. And I'm like,
do you think they're not gonna do another one next year?
Like you're you're hurting yourself to get booked or you're
gonna make yourself look like an idiot when you do
take the booking. Now is yes, it's gonna you know.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I mean, the truth is like, if you're morally convicted
in a way that says I would never take that money,
no matter how much it is. Then you have every
right to say how you feel. You know what I'm saying, Like,
cause you're right the ones who are taking shots, and then.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Next year they'll be over there. They're gonna catch hell
for this time they are, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
But the but if like if every year they have
that festival and every year Mark Marin is like, f
those guys, I'll be like, I.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Can respect that too, because he's there's no price.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
He'll ever say, Okay, I'm I'm compromising my morals. I
guess I was wrong. So it really just depends. But
I think comedians, and I'm sure you know this, it's
so cut through competitive and there's so many that like
pretend to have super high morals that really is just
like I didn't get offered that payday. Because I've seen
(33:33):
people like chastised comedians for taking roles in movies or something.
They're like, you took that role, that movie's not even good.
And I'm like, so are you telling me you turned
down the Pluto Nash money?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You're gonna be like, no, I refuse I listen. I'm
an open micer, but I refuse to work with Eddie
Murphy put on that No, you're gonna take the money. Yeah,
so I definitely will. We'll find out who's real and
who's not when that next round of of opening shows up,
I guess over there.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Right, Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, honestly, because there's
gonna be a lot of receipts in regards to this.
But I I thought I always thought that, you know,
more work, more opportunity, more, you know, more of these festivals,
like that's a that was a big festival. Like more
opportunity to spread your art was a good thing, you know.
(34:24):
The the opportunity to have a new audience here and
see you and listen to you and buy into you
was a good thing. And maybe you can make change
that way. But it's just in this wor I.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Think it depends, right cause, like like I work for
I wrote for a sports show on HBO Gang Theory
with Omonic Jones, and we used to do these like
essays at the end of each episode, like sometimes ten
sometimes twenty minutes, and one of them was on sports washing, right,
(34:58):
and how sports washing is basically when very powerful people
that may have nefarious agendas align themselves with something very,
very popular that everyone loves, and then vicariously we end
up loving. We love the thing so much we overlooked
the people and the flaws of those who hold it
(35:20):
for us. Right and at the time a big thing
was like Saudi Arabia and golf, righty, Saudi Arabia live golf, Yeah,
live golf, And you know, I understood the misgivings about it,
but like Phil Micholson went over first and he got
hell see it like everyone was just like Phil Milkerson,
(35:41):
his sellout.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
He ended up being right. Well I won't.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Say right, but he was just early meaning if he
was wrong, then a lot of other people joined him
and being wrong because the money is the money. And
eventually everybody was golfing over there would live. After at
first being kind of like listen, no, not on my
American sore, they were like, okay, you know, how much
are they pan of good?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
So I think the.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
And then what we related it to, which is one
of the reasons I love working on that show. We
didn't just go, oh, Saudi Arabia, these other people across
the globe, this other country and their beliefs and their
religion and their browness. They're bad people. That's not like
us in America. We went back to like American sports,
and we were like, what.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Do you think SEC football is? Right?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Like, so the southeastern part of the United States has
a long.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
History of racial terrorism in America.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yes, but you know, but you know what makes that washing?
Would that go down a little bit smoother or look nice?
Long sip of football? You can't forget that, like the
black people can't sit with the white people in this stadium.
We're all just here to watch a good old game
of the pigskin. And so I like that we were
(36:56):
able to talk about the moral relativism because sports washing works,
and in this case comedy washing, it works, and it
will work eventually, and it'll be interesting to see who
thinks they're winning. Because once again, the most positive spin is, hey,
maybe somebody over there heres the freedom coming out of
(37:18):
Bill Burr and Dave Chappelle's microphones, and they go, man,
that's given me some ideas to change my society. But
the other part is maybe the rest of us here
Dave Chappelle and Bill Burr chastising us.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Forever having a problem with them going, and.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It makes it seem like sometimes it's okay to kill
a journalist, you know, like, hey, look if Bill ain't got.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
A problem within and wash it out. And so it
is kind of it's catch twenty two and you don't
really know who's gonna win that battle for years if
anyone ever does right.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
No, it makes a lot of sense. I love that
you brought up that Phil Michelson was the first, like
one of the first guys that went over there. But
when you think about it, he had to be. I
mean he would was a big star, and he's got
a lot of gambling debts. I mean, how is he
gonna pay for all that if he doesn't have a
gite sort of yeah, that's all you listen.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I'm sure when he looked at his checking account and
he looked at that that bit that that check they
were gonna write, he was like, I don't think anything
is wrong with side.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Look like it is all good. I think we should
be a lot less judgment around here.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Oh yeah. Uh So in regards to like the comics
and everything before and after now of this, uh this
comedy festival, do you think they're gonna be a little
more hesitant on what they say on their own podcast
like on their platforms, because it felt and it has been.
Podcasts are an easy form without restriction to kind of
(38:45):
just say what you think. Do you think there's gonna
be a little more hesitancy to that now?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I think so, I mean just because they won't be
able to help it, like like they've they've caught so
much flak and less face it. Comedians are extremely self interested.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
You know what I mean. You know, you don't get
on the stage because you don't know.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
So they like the solo feel of it, like this
is me, I'm.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Here, yea.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
And they're obsessed with the feedback right like, like you know,
it's one of the beautiful things about stand up is
you get immediate feedback.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
So I have a hard time believing that they.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Won't fill some level of at least like, man, if
I say this after what I did and the way
I got pushed back, I'm gonna get pushed back again.
I don't know that it will change their point of
view one hundred percent, but I'm sure there'll be some
things they think twice about saying I'm sure, you know,
like I love Bill Bird, but I'm sure there's just
(39:48):
from the way he's bristled at some of the critique,
there's no way he's getting on a microphone and not
thinking like if I'm the one to say this thing now,
or will I be immediately laughed out the run when
I'm telling people billionaires are terrible people, but not the
Saudi billionaires that pay for my economy.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
That's right. Sometimes you just gotta throw that that that
bit away, I guess, and uh it, yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
So you guys, while I was on your show, you
were talking about you live either in you live in Carolina?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Right, Yeslotte, North Carolina, Charlotte.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Yeah. The Panthers, man, uh, still alive for the playoffs?
How do you feel about their chances.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Playing for it all? This Saturday? Man against the Bucks?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Did didn't they move that game or something like that, Like,
oh they moved it out?
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I don't know, stay, No, I don't think it was
originally for Saturday, but I think they was like, hey,
this is gonna be a big game, let's put it
on broadcast.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Oh yeah, oh I did not know that. That's that's
really dope. Yeah, So we I mean, I'm excited for
him because we haven't had good football in Charlotte, North
Carolina for a long time, so us having even a
chance at making the playoffs is much more than anyone
(41:15):
had us penciled in for. And I don't know that
it'll necessarily mean anything, but once you get in the playoffs,
you know you have a chance at the super Bowl
like anybody else. So I think we're actually in the
best part of being a fan, which is this part
where you had extremely low.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Expectations and.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Your team's not necessarily good, but they're beating all the expectations,
so you can have a fun time at the end
of the year. And I think that's all you can
really hope for from sports.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Yeah, you're in the absolute like gravy right now, where
you just have what we're good. Oh, we're gonna make them.
Oh we're have shot the playoffs and you didn't expect
at the beginning of the year. Oh, that is the
best feeling that you can have as a fan.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, it's like the opposite of the Steelers, right, Like
the Steelers keep finishing above five hundred going to playoffs,
but those guys could not be more miserable, correct, Like
they're a'id to fire, everybody get rid of everything. And
it's just like, man, you know, to me from my
perspect room, like I kill for that level of consistency
of like consistent at least every year you know to
(42:24):
buy your Round one playoff ticket, but not us.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
No, we don't know what's happening. Man.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
As a Chargers fan, I always know we got a
shot at a playoff you know game, But the question
is just how are we going to lose it in
dramatic fashion to just crush us for the entire all season,
Like that's just every year. It doesn't matter the coaching staff,
it doesn't matter the player, the studded quarterback, it doesn't
(42:50):
matter who it is. We will lose in devastating fashion.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
It's kind of crazy that that happened in the all
like this, that it doesn't matter what happens.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
But the Chargers have been the same my entire life.
That's right.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
My wife the other at the we played Houston on Saturday,
and it felt like that it's just like what could
go wrong went wrong? And she goes, man, I think
I think this game's cursed. And I'm like, this game,
this team, this team's been cursed forever, like it doesn't
matter the week, it's this is what it's like. It's
(43:26):
just terrible.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
And my poor son, he didn't choose this life. He
was born into it. It's just terrible for him.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Do you feel bad as a parent for putting that
on your kid? Like you could have picked any team
to make him a fan, but you were like, no,
you're gonna follow in dad's footsteps. And you go like
this misery.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Well yeah, because like as a father, like that is
the dream you got the you know, you got your
son and he's like, oh, he's gonna love your teams
and we're gonna root for him together. But then then
once you know that happens, then you realize, well, you
picked like teams that are just devastating to you, like
to your to your mental capacity, like this this is
not good, Like you look what you've done to this kid,
(44:07):
Like it's a it's very depressing.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I wonder if there's any parents out there that broke
the cycle, you know, like they were a Jets fan,
but they were like, I'm not raising my kid to
be a Jets fan. It's not gonna happen. And then
what happened to me? My kid is a Chiefs fan. Okay,
he's gonna like Patrick Mahomes and damn well he better
he better get used to winning around here.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Well, you know, to to your point, my dad was
a Padres fan, so I grew up a San Diego
Padres fan. But my younger brother, he's four years younger,
he never got into the Padres. So he he was
growing up as in elementary during the nineties and became
a Yankees fan in the midst of everything that happened,
(44:52):
you know, with the Yankees there. So he's had all
these championships and all this fun and all the shit talk,
and I'm just like, you're lucky like this, this is you're.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Supposed to be. My dad.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
My dad is a Duke fan, and I grew up
a Carolina Chapel Hill fan, and man, it was it was.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
It was a bomb.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
It was way better than being a Duke fan at
the time, you know, even though Duke like won from championships. Man,
but like Carolina at that time was just so much cooler.
It's like, all right, like I wanted to be like
the players that played at Carolina. It's like, oh, man,
Vince Carter, Shee Wallace, uh and Twine Jamie, like, these
are all fun guys, and then Duke guys except for
(45:36):
Grant Hill, were all guys that I just looked at,
like I don't ever want to even hang out with them. So, uh,
you know, shout out to my dad for not trying
to force me into being a Duke fan.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Yeah, that's legit, because I was going to ask you, like,
how did he allow this? Like that's the complete opposite
of what he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
He couldn't stop me once I got out the house
and saw how cool everybody.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Else no one thought Duke players were cool. That was not.
That's nothing he can do about that.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
How is it that Duke consistently and it doesn't matter
the era, It doesn't matter the season. I mean, they
keep getting these these guys every year and they're always different. Dude,
they come in and you just hate them. There's not
a thing to like about them. It's always a short
haired white guy every time, and he's awful, awful, Like I.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Just like, uh, I feel like they they have successfully
transitioned to the one and done thing.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yeah, they didn't cat too much for that at first. Yeah,
but where you can't they're not sticking around long enough
to hate him anymore anymore.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, yeah, I hatred. It ain't life that it used
to be.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Like if now, if you find a guy who stays
for more than two years, you will hate him, Like
it's just they just their best players are.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
No longer those guys anymore.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
But those used to be their best guys, Like, like
those guys will stick around, like uh a, j Reddy
stuck around so long. Yeah, I was like, don't leave,
get the hell out of here. No one wants to
see you doing this three point bs anymore. He just
kept doing it. So yeah, it's something changed in the
last like ten years to where like I mean, you
(47:15):
look at the NBA, like half of the guys are
just duke guys, but you wouldn't know it because you're like,
did this guy even when did he play there?
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I don't remember when did he play there?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
I don't remember Jalen Johnson playing a game for Duke.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Shaden sharp with the Duke when? When? When was this?
Speaker 6 (47:30):
Desion Winn used to play like four games Kyrie Irvin
like got hurt and barely played Like so I don't
hate those guys, but it's mostly because they weren't there
a long.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Yeah, I was just gonna say Kyrie, I forgot he
was even at Duke. But he only played like eight games.
He was just so freaking talented. He still pick so high.
Cooper Flagg's probably the last guy that you can remember
then that was like a Duke guy that you hate.
And he I don't even think he was there all
that long.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
He was there for one year and he's not even
to me, he's not even that hateable like he And
I think a big part of why he's not that
hateable though, is because he hung around with a bunch
of NBA players and played in like those like Team
USA scrimmages and all those NBA players Like this guy
is the real deal. So it's kind of hard to
(48:24):
hate that guy when like Lebron James and Kevin Durant
are telling you, like, this guy's really cool. But I
feel like the last one they had was Grayson Allen.
He's the last real like Duke. The last og of
Duke is Grayson Allen that I don't know anyone who
likes him, And if you do like him, I don't
(48:44):
like you.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
Yeah, he was trying to be hated. I mean, he
was really leveling up to that being the devil out.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
There, you know, Yeah, he's out there tripping people and shit.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Speaking to NBA. I was just seeing this morning Kevin Durant.
I don't know if it was a podcast or a
show he was on, but he was talking about how
he doesn't really like to shower now he's you know,
I don't know. Sometimes I wonder if guys or gals
that are like on another level of income that just
(49:23):
they're not really you know, they're not grocery shoping, you know,
they're just they're on this other level that sometimes they
say things to try to feel like they are relatable.
Do you do you think maybe that's what this was
and he got it wrong because we still like showering, right,
isn't that our thing? We're still showering out here.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
If there's anybody who believes ball is life, it's definitely
KD Katie.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Okay, Yeah, well Hoopers.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
The people that love Kevin Durant, the reason they love
him is because he's We've never seen a guy so
dedicated to only basketball, really basketball, you know, like everybody
else that we love is like kind of a mogul,
you know, like, yeah, it's like Steph Curry has his shoes,
He's got a movie coming out that's like a cartoon
(50:11):
movie stuff. Yeah, his wife is like a chef, you know.
Of course, Lebron's his fingers and everything with Hollywood and
all these other sports leagues. Kevin Durant just likes basketball
and talking about basketball and going on Twitter and harassing
people about basketball like it.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
So if you.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Would have given I believe without knowing, if you would
have given me a multiple choice test that and he
was one of the answers of like which one of
these basketball players said they don't shower, I feel like
I would.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Have picked him. Yeah. So so maybe that's how he's
like getting by with it that we all kind of
have the same Like, well, what.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Are we gonna tell Kevin duran He clearly doesn't. He
doesn't care about his hair. No, he doesn't care about
putting all love.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Shit may be joking him.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, yeah, Like this guy just is in all time.
Basketball is the only thing that matters to meat guy, right,
And so maybe that's why he gets the sly because
I mean he's still so good and he's tall, Like who's.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Gonna look him in his like you need to shallow?
Speaker 3 (51:13):
But It's funny though, because like we Ga, we gave
Lebron hell for his hairline, you still do.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
And we're and he's tall too, yeah he is. But
we all know Kevin Durant. You don't even bother him.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Kevin Durant look at you like, and what what you're
gonna do?
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Nothing?
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Nothing, man, He's a sniper out there on the court,
that's for sure. He's awesome. All right. Well, Rot and
Karen the Black Guy who Tips podcast, Uh, tell us
what do you got coming up? Let's uh, let's promote
it to.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Okay, Yeah, so, uh, the first thing we have coming
up is in April from the ninth through the twelfth.
I believe we're gonna be in Las Vegas for something
called pod Jam three. Google pod Jam three you can
see what tickets costs and all that stuff. So we're
definitely looking forward to that as our next like big event.
(52:06):
And then of course we'll just be doing our podcast
at the Black guyhotips dot com or just search the
Black Out Tips everywhere you get podcasts and check us out.
I know tomorrow we're having Pete dominic on as a
guest for our show, so we'll be talking to him
about his life story and interviewing him and maybe do
(52:27):
some current events and whatnot, and and so those are
the main things to look out for with us.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
Those are the main things. And we also in addition
to that, we also if.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
You want like additional shows, we have to do premium shows.
We don't Patreon and things like that now, so you
can find us if you're want like extrarod and caring
outside of our regular shows.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
That we do.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
Veryds we got the Patreon. You can find them on
the Arart Radio app and anywhere else that you find
your favorite podcast. Las Vegas you got do you do?
You play Blackjack?
Speaker 2 (53:02):
I've never been to Las Vegas before and I've never
really gambled, so I'm ready to see what what it
looks like I hear is not it's more expecially than
it used to be, That's what I'm saying. So maybe
you know, maybe I'm I'm going at the right time
because I'll be like, oh no, I don't need to gamble.
I scared to lose all my money that I just
made off this gig. I have a budget.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
So when my when my dad last out of leave,
like all right, I'm going you're gonna do my budgets
met by bye, so that means I go bye bye.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Stick to the budget, that is the plan. Stick to
the budget. That's awesome, all right, Rod Carrott, thank you
so much for giving.
Speaker 3 (53:39):
Me some time here today.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
Awesome. All right, Absolutely we will. We'll talk again. Thank
you so much,