In honor of legendary wrestler Hulk Hogan passing away today, Bobby gives his Mt. Rushmore of professional wrestlers, and talks about just how iconic Hulk was during his prime. Plus, Senior NFL Reporter for Sports Illustrated Albert Breer joins Bobby to discuss the latest drama around the NFL with QB expectations and if the Cowboys will trade Micah Parsons. And Kickoff Kevin calls Eddie out for trying to be a grill-fluencer, so Bobby gives them advice on their new influencing ventures and how to monetize it.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
To see a podcast call twenty five whists stuck in
football and they go a whizz.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So, yeah, it's too bad, But what did you expect.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's a podcast call twenty five whist.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Souls twenty line. I mean, football's kind to hear, which
is exciting because we've been like struggling. Blow at Eddie,
Thank you welcome. Albert Breer coming up in a little bit.
The funniest thing and I guess if I had a
company credit card, I just would not use it at
the strip club. I would find a way to get money.
(00:39):
And that's kind of what's happened as a part of
this whole NFLPA, the whole scandal with the owners, and
really it comes down to this that Deshaun wants to
get all the guaranteed money. The owners were secretly colluding
to make sure nobody gets that again, so we're gonna
make sure it doesn't happen, but they can't really do that.
And then the guy that's representing the union, this is
a very rough version of this, the guy that's representing
(01:00):
the union is like, Okay, I can kind of throw
you guys a bone, but you throw me a bone later.
And so then they are investigating him, and then turns
out he's been using his credit card of the strip
club the company, and also that strip club should have
had like a better charged to name instead of like
(01:21):
Lucy's Diamonds Cabaret. It should just be like Money Center,
right right, Yeah, so yeah, we'll talk to Albert Brier
about that. I've never had a company credit card. I
still don't have one.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You don't. That's surprising to me.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I don't want one now, but I don't have one
because I never want to use one. I have people
that have them. Actually, I have them that I give
people for me. Like Mike, you have a credit card, mind,
I do have one?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, Wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Morgan has one.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Morgan number one, Scuba has one.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Scuba has a company card, though, like I have people
that have cards on my account O business.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Mike has a Bobby Bones card.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yes, oh, I thought you're talking about like an iHeart.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
No, Mike has a ME card right yeah, yeah, here's
your name on. So does Morgan number one.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
How hard is that to have that in your wallet?
I feel like I'd be.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Heard at all.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I just have it in there whenever we buy something
for the show or on the road or something. It's
gonna use it, never think about it, and don't.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Use it as the strip club. I want to see
where it's from.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's crazy, is it?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Brandon?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Do you have one yet?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't know yet. So Brandon is gonna get one too.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Possibly Reed had one read I think out of one,
I think read which. By the way, Rea hit me
up last night. He was like, I miss playing golf.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
They don't have that in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna read his message. He said, I want
to play golf so bad.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
How his voice?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
How Saint Louis? He said, not terrible, just hate downtown.
Gonna be out here for a few weeks, So gonna
be out out of here. But he says, going to
be out here for a few weeks because we're headed
to New York for a few days. Yeah, Matt, he's
sister's wedding.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's like Reid is right here.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
He hates Saint Louis. But I think Reid possibly had
a credit card. Let me ask him. That just means
I trust you. If I'm giving your card and you're
gonna have to buy stuff that we're gonna need for
the operation. And I don't have to buy everything. What
(03:30):
does he have to do right now?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Nothing? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
What's hey, we're recording the podcast right now. We're talking
about you question. Did I ever give you a credit
card of mine? You did, not a physical copy, but
just pictures.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So then what I did with him was even better.
I gave him a copy of pictures of my card
with numbers and the CVV.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Technically he still has it.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh he does, because he had to buy something the
other day.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh yeah, I got a couple of a couple of
little gifts for myself. Read Is it hard having that
those numbers in hand? A little bit?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You know, I mean, it's just it's tempting, you know.
Can you use it at the strip club? I don't
know about the strip club, but I mean it works
perfectly at Sonic.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I told him that you're not loving downtown Saint Louis.
It's not the greatest. I be honest. I'm ready to
move a little bit outside of the city. It's just
it's just scary. Man, just taking the dog out, I'm
like looking over my shoulder, man, try not to.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Say anything, look at anybody.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
When do you get to move outside the city, like
next week or next year.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I wish.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
So we're gonna start looking in January. Our lease in April.
But if we find something in January and it's open,
I'm just gonna be like, we're going year three years.
It's not too bad this. You just survive, survive for
six more months, like literally, Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
That's all I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, surviving, making my way.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I hope you have a good day. Thanks man, y'all too,
Love you guys, say Boddy.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Next time, can you talk to read as read?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Man, is that an echo?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It sure is.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Hulk Cogan died seventy one years old. I made a
list of my favorite wrestlers of all time in Hulk's honor,
But then he didn't make it honor. I did my
mount rushmore of wrestlers. Okay, because Hould Cogan in my
lifetime is the biggest wrestler ever.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I did not know he died.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yep, WHOA just died? Like this morning? Whoa? This goes
up Thursday afternoon and it happened this morning. Yeah, oh yeah,
I should tell you the story. Then, seventy one years old,
Hulk Cogan died cardiac arrest are saying, as of right now,
ambulance cops, the whole thing took him out in a stretcher.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I saw some posts like Jimmy Hart was saying, like
yesterday that he's like he's not doing too good.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I was like, but it's whole, but.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, he's not good.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I hate to have to break that news to you. Yeah,
we've been sitting with it a little bit because we
did it on the podcast number one on my Mount
Rushmore's Sting my favorite wrestler of all time and blonde
haired Sting to go to his face paint, but he
was black haired Sting in the trench coat way longer. Yeah,
but my favorite was California Sting.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, I don't even know blonde haired Sting.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Stone Colds a number two, yeah, nic show and definitely
number two at number three. I have the Ultimate Warrior
absolutely because I was a kid and I thought his
muscles were freaking huge and he wore those bands around
his arms and I shook the ropes. I loved Ultimate Warrior,
rooted for him to beat Hulk Hogan many times and
then finally rap Master pn news.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh I'm gonna have to google him.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I don't know that one.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Very brief career, but I thought he was the coolest
because he rapped. He was terrible too. He'd be out
there and be like yo baby, yo baby yo. He
was my favorite rap Aster P and new News is
I wanna play a look for her, Go get ready,
break yourself, boys and girls. He comes out, He's in
(07:07):
like a unit hard.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Set that I should wrap for my wife if I
had to it, I wouldn't think twice. They can't just
make I don't kill what they say because that's not
They came into your news and play.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So if you don't listen.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Take my my sore ass the price.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
By yo baby yo baby Yo, Yo baby, Yo baby
Yo Yo baby, yo baby yo.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Laugh.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It's so corny. That's pretty cool. But that was my favorite.
I think he had like a three month career. But
I loved rap Master Pan.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And his outfit. I mean, his his whole image. It's
even better.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And the PM the N is Paul New. That was
his name. Paul New.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Didn't know that. Don't think he had much of a
career other than rap Master P and News. A matter
of fact, I don't think rap Master P and News
had much of a career. I just thought it was
so cool that a guy came down and wrapped in
the middle of the ring.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Awesome, that is cool.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, rest in peace, Holcokeing seventy one years old. A
quarter of sports betters have missed bill payments over wagers.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
What do you What do you mean? How do you
do that?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
You don't pay a bill, you gamble with it instead.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Oh yeah, see they tell you that there's like a
little disclaimer there that says, do not do stuff like that.
This is for entertainment.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Only you ever done that. We're all looking at you. No, dude,
like all of us were looking at you.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I would never miss a bill because of gambling. Like,
have I put in a few extra deposits, yes, but
nothing where I'm going to get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
American's back close to one hundred fifty billion on sports
at least last year, according to the American Gaming Association.
US News and World Report polled twelve hundred people who
placed sports bets in the past six months, and thirty
percent have debts because of gambling. More than two and
ten admit they've verbally abused an athlete, either in person
or online. You guys need to chill out.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
First of all, I love betting, but it's entertainment. It
needs to be treated as such. And it's awesome because
it makes me be involved in games and situations I
won't even care about. Like it brings entertainment to me.
If I bet twenty five bucks on something and then
I have nothing to do. But now I'm watching some
cricket game in India. I now have provided myself with
(09:34):
twenty five bucks of entertainment.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And if you're watching that cricket game in India, heye,
you're not alone. I've been there, man, Yeah, I've been there.
But it gets better.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You're treating them like they're kids who growing up being
made fun of.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
No, it just say you're not alone, because I mean,
I'm sure people in that dark, dark place are thinking
like I'm the only idiot. No, you're not.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Have you been there, like in that dark place? Better
an idiot, like oh my.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Gosh, betting on a random horse race?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
No, but like not paying your bills?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
No, never been there, but yes, I I found myself
at like you know, eleven am trying to watch this syndicate,
this well simble cast of a race in California.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yes, I've been there, and by racing means a dog race,
not even horse. Bill Belichick's getting a Hulu doc series
after Hard Knocks falls through and Jordan is Jordan, Hudson's
girlfriend is part of the oh executive produced Who is
This Guy Who was a Quarterback? In May that it
was Hudson who allegedly torpedoed a deal that would have
had the NFL coaching legend on Hard Knocks as he
(10:35):
embarked on his first season as head coach of North Carolina.
News broke yesterday that Hulu has shown interest in telling
the unc Belichick story in a proposed DOCU series. It
does appear Hudson has managed to involve herself with a
new deal. A firm controlled by Hudson has registered trademarks
for Chapel Bill. That's funny, Ya do your job Bill's
version and No Days Off Bill's version. Belichick's first game
(10:58):
as head coach at u NC is against TCU Monday,
September first, Pretty.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Quick, Gotta go. Chapel Bill, Chapel Bills, Bill, Chapel Bills.
Find Does everyone know?
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I guess everyone knows that it's in Chapel Hill right.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, well if they if they don't, they wouldn't even
get Chapel Hill, right, Like to get Chapel Bill, you
have to get Chapel Hill. And so if you see
Chapel Bill and you don't get it and it's in
that blue, you wouldn't get it anyway if it said
Chapel Hill.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, right, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah. ESPN has said to be closing in on the
next era defining media deal. Sources in the loop say
negotiations with NFL and ESPN are closing. The deal, those
sources say would see ESPN acquire NFL Media, which is
the arm of the league that focuses on content and
runs the NFL network. I do believe that they're getting
(11:51):
Red Zone Chain Zone. Yeah, that'd be one of the
products that they buy. It's no coincidence that this coming
fall we'll see ESPN's programming become available as a direct
to consumer product at twenty nine ninety nine a month.
I'm not sure what that means. I know what it
means is then you pay twenty nine ninety nine and
then you get ESPN. But I don't think they're coming
off of cable. I don't have cable. I have YouTube TV.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Mm hmm, yeah same.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Is that the same thing? What as cable?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes? Uh what do you mean.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Because like you say, you don't have cable? Is cables
even still exist?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Because yeah, yeah, like Spectrum or Infinity Yeah for sure?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Even direct TV?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah still I think all that can which say provider. Yeah,
I use as my main provider YouTube TV, so I
get a ESPN, But then I also subscribe to ESPN already,
So I don't know how this direct consumer model changes things.
Maybe you don't have to have a package at all
and you can just buy ESPN for twenty nine ninety
nine a month. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, like, well, maybe you don't have to have YouTube TV.
That's what I'm saying right as like a streaming service basically.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But then it's do you have no it's for people
who have no streaming services I assume, or not streaming
service providers for cable I hard.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
To yeah, so hard.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, another way for them to get our money, how
about it?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Eddie and I played another round of our golf tournament yesterday.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Okay, round two in the books, Round.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Two of four the humiliation games, okay, where I have
to give Eddie five hundred bucks if he wins, and
he has to dress up in a superman costume and
stay on the street corner for two hours holding a
sign this is Bobby's better golf than me, and then
grill from my wife and I in the same superhero costume.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's gonna be weird and be honest.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And we played round two yesterday. Round one, I shot
at eighty four. Eddy shot at eighty five. Round two yesterday,
I shot at eighty four again and shot at eighty six.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Day So I am three strokes.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Back the same course, same course you're doing all four.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I did that because it was close and easy.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, why not? Yeah, we're not day So it's a dogfight, dude.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
It's weird because like Eddie was getting malthed yesterday and
it wasn't the guy he usually is.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You're get mad, Yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Something kind of just irked me the wrong way, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Like a competitive Eddie came out.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
People like Bobby.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Hits in the water and then he drops in the
middle of the fairway. I'm like, oh, you're gonna just
drop it in the middle of the fairway, like that's
where the drop is.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
He was like he was mauthy way before that, by
the way, and if you go backward you can drop
it wherever. And I was backward from.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Work, and then in the middle of the fairway he goes, okay,
so he kicks it a foot backwards.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I'm like, I was, I was already backward and the
fairway's right by the water.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Now you dropped it in the middle of the fairway.
Not so yeah, am I gonna get a mouthy? Yeah?
I got a little mad.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
When that ball went in the water, he yelled. This
is this is how dishonest he's being, because when that
ball went in the water, he yelled water So before who?
So before he this is this is the one point
because I have like three or four before this, But
this is how you know he's lying well, by the way,
one of the things that we were like, dude, like,
you're like yelling stuff I did hit in the water
(14:47):
was the only time hit on the water. And he
goes water right when it hit in. And so if
that's what made him mad, why was he already being
a drink before that the water?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
No? No, no, I wasn't being mad about the water. Every
hole He's like, is that him because you know him
with a glass, I.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Can't see anything exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So what I'm telling you it's in the water.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's where the water comes from.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Not a single hole.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Was he like, it's in the middle, that's in the left.
But the one time I go on the water goes water.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I was assisting any hey, next shot man?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Any lot? No.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
He he was so cranky yesterday the whole time on
the course. And when you drop, the water is right
by the fair away and there's a sliver of rough
and also Eddie was trying to move his ball and crap.
I was like, no, no, we leave it. But I
took a drop and I went backward for it dropped
in and He's like you're not back far enough. So
I kicked it back.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Even more and a penalty stroke.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
But oh you know why it was because he hit
his ball ten feet off the tee leading up to that,
and the same hole he hit it ten feet off
the tee and that's why he started to get pissy.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Dude. Well was so frustrating. Is like there were these
holes where like Bobby would just you know, hit in
the water or something, and I'm just like, oh, this
is my chance, Like this is my chance to get
a stroke on him, two strokes even, and I could
never do it. So yeah, it got frustrating. It got frusted,
and the whole moody Eddie that you're seeing, I'm not
moody dude. This competitive Eddie. Man, you've never seen me before.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
We played this part five and we don't do many gimmis,
but if it's close enough, really close, it's like's it
was hot, Like you can have it next hole. Yeah,
And so we're at one and it was close enough
to where it had been. Give me the whole time,
and Eddie's like, nope, put it, and I put it.
I missed it. That's fine because I did miss it.
And then he was like, god I did that, and
(16:33):
he got well, got to the next ta, the whole one,
and I'm not mad about it because you can't call
it anytime. And we get to the next tea and
I'm like, okay, this is where the cookie crumbles, because
anytime he gets like this, he falls apart. And Tom
is with us, our friend, and he goes, Yeah, I said, Eddie,
why do I said Tom, what do you think they call?
(16:53):
The cookie goes? Because he crumbles. I'm like exactly, Eddie
double bogie, next hole, double bogey crumbled.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, his head games, dude, head games with this guy.
You think they do that on the tour.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I said nothing. I said nothing the whole time until
he started to be like.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Water put it.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
There was a club on a par three. You throw
your irons in between the green and the cart so
you don't forget them.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I know exactly what you said.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Good okay.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
And so we both light our clubs down like our
sixty degrees and Eddie walks back, picks U up and
leaves mine on the ground.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Dang, we're in a match, man. You think Kepka picks
up Bryce. Bryce is the point a club and this
is my point your own club.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
But does get you a little happy because you always
say Eddie doesn't have a competitive edge to him side
to him.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
This is not this is him being a petulant child.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Okay, this is whining.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yes, okay, okay, Hey.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I did see something, though I didn't want to point
out what's crazy? Like there was a hole where we
were I mean it was I think we were both
putting for pars. Maybe he made his par putt and
I got a bogie and he's walking off the green
and I see him put his hand up.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Like I did, Johnny Manzel money to this guy. I
thought I was praying, but I was doing Johnny Manziel
money because I just I'd hit it in the water
off the tee, but the water was like right down
the middle, and I didn't think I made it that far,
and I guess I hit it so good and went
in the water, which sucked, but I did hit it
pure and then I put it within five feet as
my approach best shot. I hit all day over two
waters onto like this, not an island green, but surrounded
(18:24):
by water green within five feet and I ended up
paring the hole. And so when I finished, I did
the money money Manziel to the sky and anything. I'm
praying that guy. You were like, no, I was. I
was like, because it was over then, that deserves a
Manziel money. Yeah, that round it was over then, But
he hana be a little baby.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
So how was the last two gonna be?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Then?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Dog fights? Dude?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Are how are you gonna be?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
What you mean?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Like, are you gonna keep this?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
By the way, I'm never macked talking way, got in the.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Car accident right before I played golf, so I was
all out like accidents. Well, somebody backed into my car.
Oh man, it was all dense in the back and
went straight from there.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
You showed up in a neck brace and every range,
the arm past and everything. Dang, dude, you shot eighty four.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And you well you didn't see it though, like you
who you're calling.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Guys, Guys relaxed. There's a little a fender bender, okay,
and you still have the mental like wear all.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Round.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Drone was like, oh god, because you find your cars.
It's a new car as well. Yeah, it sucks. How
do you how do you take your mind out of
that into competition? You know it's called championship compartmentalizing? Glad
you asked, Oh, there's a term for that, dude. So
we're two down, dang, so wait three three strokes? Yeah,
two rounds down of four, I'm up three strokes. I
(19:42):
can lose all three of those on one hole. I'm
not stupid.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
We're gonna we're gonna need a big one.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
But the fact that it's this closed after two, it's
pretty pretty good.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah. No, it's winner's the winner.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I mean round one. He came in with a throbbing headache.
Head hurts, head hurts, round car crash, what's gonna I
never have the car.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I played the game without even talking to I mentioned
at the beginning, say somebody had my car, and then
I focused and play golf.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, round three person on eighteen, I just saw my
window smash in my house. Man, somebody's in my house
right now.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Somebody's got my wife kidnapped. But I'm here, I'm here,
I'm going to play off.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Okay, Albert Breer coming up. Let's take a break and
we'll talk to him. Let's now talk with senior NFL
reporter or sports illustrated Albert Breer. I love Albert when
he's on anything. Right now, he's traveling training camp to
training camp. I think he's with the Packers right now.
And so we'll talk about Jordan Love, we'll talk about
Minnesota and JJ McCarthy because he just wrote an article
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about that. And big thanks to Albert for coming on.
Follow him on Twitter at Albert Breer, keep up with
his insight and his articles here he is Albert Breer. Hey, Albert,
I appreciate the time. I know you're at Packers camp.
I imagine camp is like the first day of school.
This is my only relation to NFL football camp, where
everybody's kind of excited on day one and then they
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slowly realize now they have a lot of camp to go.
Is that what camp's like?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah, I would say, well, I think for everybody in football,
and this is the way I feel now having done
this for twenty one years. It's sort of like the
first day before so sort of like before doubles in
high school football, or like before the first day of
school when you're a kid, where you know, you kind
of look at it like you're staring down the barrel
of a gun before you, before you, before you get
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into it, and then once you get into it, it's fine,
and then I would say, like maybe a weekend, ten
days in, it starts to wear on you a little bit.
So it's like this sort of natural progression. I think
that that we all kind of feel like me obviously
much less so than the players because I'm just driving
from camp to camp and talking with people, but yeah,
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there's obviously a lot going on, and it's an interesting
time of year.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
We were at Panthers camp last year we're gonna be
a Titans camp coming up this year, and it feels like,
if you are a young, multi multi millionaire, this is
one of the worst times of the year because it
is the biggest grind, it seems. And the Panthers camp,
they're not even in Charlotte. They're in like South Carolina
in like a at a college. If you're like a
rich young dude who is used to have an access
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to everything, does this just suck?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Well, it depends on who you are, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I think like first of all, it's like what camp
you're at right like, because some camps the players are sequestered,
Like the Panthers actually just moved their camp back to Charlotte,
so they're in a little bit of a different dynamic.
But the Chiefs go to this town like an hour
and a half north of the actual Kansas city and they're.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Staying in the dorms. You know.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
The Rams went away to camp and have gone away
to camp, and for a bunch of years they were
staying in this like beautiful resort in Newport Beach in
Orange County, you know, So it sort of depends on
what team you're at.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
And then like for a lot of the guys.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
It's the rules too, Like there are some teams that
only make their young players stay in the hotel and
then the veteran players can can go home at night,
you know. So I think it's a different experience for everybody.
But yeah, I think like the the older the guys get,
the more the grind of it wears on them and
the more and and you also have like things that
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you're doing that you have to get away from. It's
I think what most people would think, which is like
you're going from living that life to now all of
a sudden, it's sort of work.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Let's start with the packers for a second, because I
know that's where you are today. What's the expectation for
Jordan Love in general? Now?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I think the expectation is that he's gonna he's gonna
level up, and you know, he got paid last summer
and so he's now on on on this tier with
you know, Joe Burrow and you know some of his peers,
justin Herbert and two a tongue of Aloa and you
know for all of those guys, really the dynamic changes
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a little bit after you get paid, because when you're
on a rookie contract, a team can build aggressively around you,
and the Packers, you know, have have been pretty aggressive
and building around Jordan Love, and then you know they
after you get the big contract. Now that means that
they have to be a little bit more conservative and
have a little more long range thinking in the way
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that they're putting the team together, which is sensibly means
that you've got to be a little.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Bit more of a force multiplier.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
And I think there were some growing pains with that
with Jordan Love, Like I think a lot of people
thought the way he finished twenty three like this was
a rocket ship, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
What I mean, Like the way he played in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
And the way he played at the end of the
regular season, like that was just gonna that was just
going to roll right in twenty twenty four, and you know,
the Packers have their answer for the next fifteen years
the way they want to do with Farvan Rogers. And
it was a bumpy or second year for him. So
there are some moving parts on the offensive line right now.
They're bringing in Matthew Golden to a group of young
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receivers they brought along the last few years Obviously Christian
Watson's hurt, but do Tavian Wicks and Jaden Red and
Romeo Dobbs and so, you know, like I think it's
really kind of more on Jordan Love to be the
leader now and to be the force multiplier, you know,
like to be the guy that's starting to lift the
people up around him, and that's going to start with him,
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you know, cleaning up some of the turnover issues, playing
more efficient ball, you know, and then I think getting
getting the most out of a young receiver group that
he's grown up with.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Trey Hendrickson is not even in Ohio, Like he's like,
I'm out, I'll see you when I see. Are we
anywhere close to resolving that?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I would say that is one of the more unpredictable
contract disputes of the last few years, Like because there is.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
So much water under the bridge, Bobby. Two years ago
this really began.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
And part of the reason why he's in this position
in the first place is because the Bengals got a
pretty deep discount on him when they sign him the
Saints because they were sort of in a COVID economy
where the cap.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Was depressed, and so you know, he.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Produced at a high level for him, and the contract
wasn't pacing with his production. So two years ago, you know,
he he really pushed for a new deal. They did
a band aid one year extension. He tried to push
again last year, nothing happened. So this is the third
offseason that they've been in this situation where he's been
fighting for.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
He's been fighting for a contract.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
So a guy who's been through all of that generally
isn't going to take a hometown discount. And the pass
rusher market has exploded. So you have Miles Garrett at forty,
have TJ. Watt at forty one. You have Denil Hunter
and Max Crosby who are also older players. Those guys
are now in the mid thirties, and so how do
you how do you get him a deal that's commensurate
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with the guys at thirty five sacks the last years.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
And then there's the way that they've done their own contracts.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
The Bengals had strict rules on guarantees and structure and
all that stuff. They broke those rules to keep Joe Burrow.
They signed the two receivers this offseason.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
One kind of went.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
In that Burrow bucket where he's like a contract that
went beyond the president Styd set before that was Jamar
Chase and then T Higgins signed a little bit more
of a traditional deal the Bengals have done. So which
bucket are you in? He's in his thirties. I'm sure
the Bengals would look at and say, well, you know,
we want to put him more with T Higgins where
he's been fighting this fight for three offseasons.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
So he'd be more on the on the on the
on the Chase side of it. So it looked like
they had momentum over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Things really broke down on Monday, which I think precipitated
that long drive back to Florida. And I think because
of all that history that's there, it's a pretty unpredictable
one going forward.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
It just seems like the Bengals are in disarray right
now more than ever. They can't sign Schmart Stewart from
Texas A and M either and so, and that's a
contract deal where it's and that was a clause deal,
right like like if you act bad, and Joe Burrow
has had to like step in and be like hey,
even like sub tweeting them like we need to get
our deals done. Is Cincinnati just a mess in general?
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Is it because of the ownership there?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I think it's like I think it's your history follows you,
you know, and the reputation has always been that that
they're cheap.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
It's I mean, it goes back to things.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
That don't relate to any of this, you know, Like
they didn't have a practice bubble until a couple of
years ago, despite the fact they're in a northern climate.
Their scouting staff is very small, like, you know, four
guys and the scouting staff, and and Joe. I remember
having a conversation with Joe a few years ago about this,
and I remember him saying to me, the old Bengals
are dead. And I really think like Joe has taken
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upon himself to try to change the face of the
organization and be the change agent there, you know. And
so he's had ways of putting pressure on the organization.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
He put pressure on them, on Chas.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
And Higgins, you know, and so it's it's not surprising
that he would try to do this with Hendrickson too.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I know, like how Joe values every football.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Season and how he views every season that goes by
without a championship as a missed opportunity. And I also
know he's well aware of the Bengals reputation and what
their reputation has been, not just over the years, but
over the decades, and so he's tried to be the
change agent.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
And I think he's succeeded in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Their scouting staff is had this offseason, they added three
new scouts to the scouting staff without.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think, while they only lost one. You know, so.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
I think, you know, the Chase deal was a step
in the right direction. Burrows deal itself was a was
a step in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And and we'll see where this one takes him.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
But that's that's the reputation they've had a long time
that I think in both these situations, both with Stuart
and with Hendrickson, it's going to follow them.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Michael Parsons, speaking of Edge Rusher's last year of the
deal with Jerry Jones talking about ITIM like, well, what
is there any chance he doesn't end up a cowboy?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Like, you know, there was a point earlier in the
off season where I said, like, I think, if if
you were another if you're another team in need a
pass rush, I would at least make the phone call.
And I'm not saying the team shouldn't now, but we're
in training camp, and are you going to be able
to get full value for Micah Parsons? And if you're
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the Cowboys, are you going to be willing to give
up Michaeh Parsons for assets that you might not.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Be able to use this year?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
They'd be you know, you'd be talking about trading for
draft picks that you're not going to be able to
They won't help you on the field until twenty twenty six,
you know, so I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
It's just been the Cowboys way of doing business.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
And I can't say, Bobby that I fully understand why
they keep going down this road.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
But it's a road they went down with Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
It's a road they went down with Dak Prescott at
one point a couple of summers ago. They went down
this road with Zach Martin where he was out of
camp for I think almost a month before he got
the adjustment he wanted to his contract. Generally, and a
team right there in the division has benefited from doing
business this way. The Eagles always get way ahead on
these things. Generally, if you've got a player that you're
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really sure on, you want to sign him as early
as you can. And when it's a young player, the
first chance you have to do that is after three years.
The Cowboys didn't do that with Dak, they didn't do
that with CD, and they didn't do that now with Micah.
And in each case, at least with DAK and CD,
it cost them a lot of money to wait. So
I can't tell you exactly why you would want to
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wait here. I know Micah hasn't been perfect, you know,
and there are you know, some some relationships in that
building like that, that some stuff that he's had to
that that that that he's fought through and the team's
fought through.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
But he's such a great player.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
I just I don't fully understand the logic on not
wanting to get this one done early so you pay
a little bit less than you would if you waited.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Like they have.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I was reading your article on MMQB about j McCarthy
and you know, obviously last year he didn't play at all,
but he was able to be around the game, and
Kevin O'Connell has and I work with Matt Castle, who
O'Connell was Castle's backup and their boys, and I've been
able to spend time with with with Kevin O'Connell, and
but he was talking about how that system fits any
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I would say cerebral quarterback is if you can make
decisions quick, you will succeed in that Kevin O'Connell system.
How do you see JJ McCarthy coming along, being that
he didn't didn't get to play at all last year?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, well, I think two things.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Like you do feel the effects of losing the year,
you know of stuff in practice. One example I was
given just talking to the guys yesterday was how you know,
when you're in the scout team you learn kind of
like some of the subtleties to throwing the ball in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Like one thing JJ really had to work.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
On was you know, what they call layering the ball
and learning to throw a little bit more touch and
takes taking some speed off his fastball. And that's something
when you're running the scout team that you can learn
to do that because you start to learn like, okay,
like this is what the windows look like in the NFL,
this is how I have to throw the ball to
complete it, and he lost all of that, like all
that works, so he definitely had some catching up to
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do from that perspective, lost some of the meeting time
that he would have had last year. I mean, it's
a really hard year on him for sure, Like he
went through a lot physically mentally. All of that that said,
I think since January he's really checked every box and
he's been around a lot and he's spent a lot
of one on one time with Kevin, which obviously is beneficial.
They've got good infrastructure for the quarterback there with Wes
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Phillips and Josh McCown, you know, and I think for
JJ now it's drill after drill he's gotten better. It's
you know, it's day after day he's gotten better, and
it's just making up for all that lost time, which
you know, just it's going to take time to do that.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
The second thing is I think what you touched on,
which is how good the situation is. The coaching situation
is really good.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
We've seen what it did for Kirk Cousins, We've seen
what it did for Sam Darnold, and on top of that,
I don't think and this is just talking to Kevin
and yesterday They're definitely not going to ask the world
of him. You know, they want him to just be
able to go out there and play quarterback, which is
what they do with Sam. You know, So they're going
to do things in the screen game. They're going to
do things with the run game. They're gonna do things
with play action off the run game. They're gonna do
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things with a quick game. Like they're not going to
be asking him to carry the team and be Superman
right out of the gate. And they've got a good
enough team to execute that where the offensive line, bringing
in you know, Will Fries and Ryan Kelly from the
Colts and drafting Donovan Jackson the first round, you get
Christian Darris back from the acl and then you know
the receiver position, what they've gotten Justin Jefferson and Jordan
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Addison and then TJ. Hockinson at tight end and Aaron
Jones in the backfield. They signed Jordan Mason from the Niners. Like,
they don't need him to go out there and be
Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen, and so the hope is
that you know, he just gradually grows, you know, like
that they can ask a little bit more of him
gradually as.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
He goes on. So I think those would be the
two things.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Is making up for lost time and then just going
out and playing quarterback and not trying to be superman
out there. It's it's certainly worked for the guys they've
had there since Kevin got there three years ago.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I've got three final questions. The first one is the Lions.
They lost both coordinators. Can they hit the ground running
or is it a bit of start over?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
I think one thing that's like one thing. I definitely
have my radar.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
So I think they've groomed Kelvin Sheppard to take over
for Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I'm not saying it's gonna be perfect.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
But I think that transition should be fairly clean. On offense,
I just think it's It's interesting because Ben Johnson is
one of these guys where I think the offense was
very specific to Ben, and it's like a little different
than when you come from these big families where all
of these coaches go different places and they've they've all
been successful and everything else. I think, you know, what
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you hear about Ben and Detroit was that it was
very much like specific to him, you know, and that
he would go into the lab on Monday night and
come out Wednesday with something that.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Was very much of his own creation.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
So I think, you know, Johnny Morton is an experienced guy,
you know, a great pass game guy. You've got Hank
Frailey back who will help on the run game. He's
been their offensive line coach. But how you kind of
replace the uniqueness of what Ben was, I think is
an interesting question.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
And how you make up for it. I think it's
with players.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
And one thing that's like really apparent when you go
out to their practice, how many guys they have in
like year three, year four that are just hitting their
stride as players year five, like.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Pinay Sewell, Amanta Ross Saint.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Brown, Brian Branch, Aiden Hutchinson, Jamison Williams, Jamira Gibbs. You've
got all of these players in that roster that are
still ascending, you know. So we all looked at it,
Alin McNeil, we all looked at it as this group
that was like, God, this is a really talented team.
And then you look at the age and it's like
maybe that like little bit of that tick up that
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you get from where those guys are in their career
can make up for whatever they're going to lose with
the coaching turnover.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Final two questions. Bow Nick's an older quarterback, so is
he closer to a ceiling now than some of these
other guys.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
I think it's an easy thing to say, and I
think to some degree that's probably true. You know, Jayden
and Jayden and Bownix played five years. Those guys are
those guys are older. Michael Pennis played six you know,
so those guys are older.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Than Drake May and Caleb Williams and j. J.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
McCarthy, who were all only in college for three years.
I think Bo doesn't get enough credit for what he
did last year because if you look at like a
lot of the young quarterbacks when they have, you know,
big years when they're young, you can look at the
talent around them and say, all right, like that team
was able to build something really great around him. And
I'm not saying like the Broncos don't have really good players,
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but he's throwing the Courtland Sutton and Marvin.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Mims and and and Devon Valley and Troy Franklin, and
you know, the offensive line is good.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
You know you have got Garret Bowles and Mike McGlinchey
and Quinn minors, but are you looking at like a
really special offensive group. So I think his ability to
come in and play at the levely did I don't
think he gets the credit he deserves for it.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
So, you know, adding Evan Ingram, bringing in RJ.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Harvey from UCF, like, I think there's an opportunity for
him to get better just by virtue of Sean Payton
has got another year with him and they've gotten a
little bit better from a personnel standpoint on offense. And
the defense should be lights out like That's the other
part is like people don't look enough at that when
it comes to quarterback play.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
You know, when you've got.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
A great defense that's giving you a good field position,
that's you know, giving you three and out, so the
other defense gets worn out. That can really be something
that helps, you know, a young quarterback. And the Broncos
defense was top of the league last year. They had
Drake green Law, they add Telenoah Hafunga. It's that should
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be one of the best groups in the league, which
I think will only help.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
My final question is about the NFLPA scandal, and look,
I think now we look at that Deshaun watson Dale
and go, holy crap, because that's just a lot of
money to guarantee you. And now you find out afterward
they're like, we shouldn't do this anymore. And then people
are stepping down resigning. Where does this end? Like what
is worst case scenario?
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Well, I mean, first of all, like I think for
the players, they have every reason to be pissed.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
You know, I always I said this.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
I remember being asked about this when Deshaun signed his
deal in twenty two. People ask like, is this going
to be the beginning of fully guaranteed contracts? And my
answer generally was it depends on what happens next. They
said the same thing after Kirk Cousins signed his deal
in Minnesota in eighteen. Is the next deal fully another
fully guaranteed deal or is it a traditional quarterback deal?
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And then the deal after that, and then the deal
after that. And so what we found in twenty two
was those deals all became more traditional deals, which allowed
other teams to point at watson as the outlier. The
level of organization that went into that, the communication between
the owners, that behind the scenes meeting at the at
the owners meetings where the management council basically discouraged teams
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from doing fully guaranteed contracts, the way the Russell Wilson
negotiation went unication between Dan Spanos and Michael Bidwell.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
It all makes the owners look awful.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
And this is something that the union should have been
shouting about from the mountaintops, and instead they were helping
cover it up.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
So if you're a player, you have.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Every reason to think your union wasn't serving in your
best interest and the best interest of the greater group.
So I think that that's a small piece of what's
a massive, massive mess. And because you have all these
other elements, I mean the crazy Oj Simpson thing that
came out the other day, the Strip Club expenses all
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that stuff, you know, the one team partners thing, which
I think could wind up being worse than any of it.
I think there's an opportunity here for the players to
look at it and say, how.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Do we want to reinvent our union?
Speaker 5 (40:43):
So I think in a lot of cases, like you
would say, like the worst case is this nuclear option
where the union gets completely blown up, but that might
be what the players need here, right, is that we
need a chance to kind of go in and reevaluate
the way our union works and reevaluate what we one
out of our union. I think this very well could
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end with them bringing in an interim director and then
asking those questions. And I think that's probably exactly what
the union.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Needs to do right now.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
A follow up statement, I can't believe anyone would use
their the credit card to go to strip club. I mean,
it's it's all there, it's all documented, it's on a receipt.
It's unbelievable. It almost feels like an old Alabama parching situation.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
I'm not saying I spent too much time in those places,
but they generally have ATMs in there, right.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
But they should list them as different. Now, I don't
want to stand out for the person using the card.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
You can get the discreet don't they normally have this
great Yeah, some of them have like it's like great building.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Money option, Like that's what shows up on the credit card,
not cabaret. The other thing is. And again the final
part of that is the nfl PA, like the union,
weren't they doing it as a quid pro quoe meeting.
We'll cover you here, but you got to give us
something on the backside.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
So I mean there were a couple of things on that.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
There was the first one, which was there were about
twelve million dollars in legal fees at the NFL and
in fighting this case, and since they won the case,
there's the question of whether or not they can go
after that money and try to recover the legal fees
from the union.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
So, you know, one thing I.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Heard out there was there could have been a quid
pro quo saying like, all right, like, we won't pursue
the twelve million dollars dollars in legal fees if you
help us keep this quiet.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
The other one was, of course the j C. Treader
situation where j. C.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Treader was was found to be responsible for for for
them for making the comments about running back pay, in
which case, like they would be, they would be basically
covering up the j C.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Tretder messed that up. In either case.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
It doesn't look good though, Bobby, you know, because in
either case it's like you're putting the well being, You're
you're throwing the well being of two thousand players overboard
for either the financial wellbeing of the union you know,
of the organization, or for the reputation of one person.
And so no matter how how you slice that and
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how you want to cut it up.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Like even the.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Private equity think is probably the worst thing, where like
Lloyd Howe was actually in cahoots with the owners, and
I know there were a lot of people based on
Lloyd's approach that felt like he was way too friendly
with the owners to begin with. And so you know,
having that smoking gun was that part of wanting to
help the owners that you're looking to get an ownership.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
No matter how you slice this.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
Whatever the reason was, I don't think there's a good
reason that the union can.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Give the rank and file player for why they did this.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Albert Breer you can follow him on Twitter at Albert
Breer and also read it JJ McCarthy interview that I
read on MMQB dot com. Also a massive fan when
you go on Dan DP, I love you over there.
I'm a big Dan fan. And so Albert, thank you
for the time and thanks for talking with us about this.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Awesome Thanks Bobby. My wife's a big fan. She wanted
me to make sure I said that.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Tell Rus hello, Albert, thanks man, thank you for the time.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
All right, Thanks Bobby.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
N Eddie has scoop that Josh Allen lives here. In Nashville.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Now, oh, my insider told me.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Okay, and so what is the news first.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
That he lives in Nashville. Now, I guess still plays
for Buffalo but lives here. So in the off season, yeah,
because it wouldn't be possible to live in Nashville while
you're playing in Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Quick flights in the morning.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah, but that's pretty cool to have Josh Allen as
our neighbor.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I don't know if that's true as your neighbor, as
your neighbor or.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
My neighbors because we live here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Do you want to say your sources?
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Let me just say, because I don't want to out
my source, but let me just say my source found
out from some other sources. Parents.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
That sounds like total bull crap.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
It's my son, it's my eleven year old. He was
at a camp. He was at a camp and he
said that his buddies were telling him, yeah, Josh Allen
lives here, according to their dads. Their dads are in
the industry, and they know that Josh lives.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Here in like the NFL industry, something like what industry
eleven football eleven year old industry? What are we talking about.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I really don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I googled what does it say. It says, no, Josh
Allen has not moved to Nashville as of July twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Oh July, that's what.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
That's what we're unless he just moved here.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Well, I mean it was fresh off the press.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
That's all my son's I'm not saying you're wrong because
Aaron Rodgers has a house here. Yeah, I don't know
that he lives here a full time. George Kittle, he
does live here full I mean this is his home.
He's not in San Francisco. Calipari has like a house
here and as a member of a club, you know.
So I think people are here, but I don't see anything.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I think it's probably not a googleble thing, you know,
like it's it's it's still private. Like you still, yeah,
you want to move to Nashville, you want to keep
it maybe so on the down low, but uh, you know,
people in the industry, like I said.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Sounds like you're just start as well.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
But it's possible taking a Jared Allen.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Jared Allen does live here.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
No way, no way. The kids thought they were talking
about Jared Allen.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I would not think so either.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, your kids probably don't know who Jared Allen are.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
No, but they know exactly who Josh Allen is.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Going to the Hall of Fame this year, though, Jared,
that's right, Yep, that's right.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Eddie's given you crap for being a dad influencer.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, a couple of weeks ago, remember we talked about
that he's giving me a crap. And then he invited
my wife and I and our kids over to barbecue
last weekend and he starts barbecuing and grilling up and
all of a sudden, he's like, hey, Kevin, can you
come take some pictures and video of me barbicue over here? Like, yeah, man,
I got you. So then I take pictures video send
it to him. A couple hours later he posts it
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and now he's all about this grill he's and now
he's a grill influence girl flinzer. He even invited me
over just so I could take pictures and grill.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
That's not the only reason I invited you over.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
It's it's one of them.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Then did I make you feel that way?
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I mean, after you just used me for my camera skills?
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Look, how how long have I been cooking? Thought? How
long have I been grilling?
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Yeah, but you haven't tried to be a grill influencer
until you got that Black Lives And I will say this,
your stuff looks good, and I know I don't to
give a crap about that stuff that's like good. I
find myself liking those pictures. And I don't like anything
on Instagram, not because I dislike things. I just don't
think about liking stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
No, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
I doubled have dose.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
I appreciate that. But but look, dude, I've been cooking
for ages, right, so it's natural for me if I
want to cook a little more share on my Instagram.
This dude's been a dad for three months and now
he's showing people had it. This is how you hold
a baby.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Get out of here. Is there a threshold of when
you can be an influence?
Speaker 1 (47:21):
You got to have knowledge, You got to have knowledge
of what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
What if you're influencing as you're learning, And that's your
whole style.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Like yeah, like my whole thing is new parents because
I'm a new parent.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Like I saw something pop up, I didn't the two
babies on them. Yeah, honestly, I didn't watch it, but
I don't.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Know if you like them. I didn't like it, you know, okay,
because I didn't purpose.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
What was that about?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Purpose?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, it was like drink machine or something.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, drink station. Yeah, it's a little drink station, just
something might kind of came up with and saw. And
then little like advice for new parents, and this one
is all about the summary centrals, Like I don't how
to keep your kids cool during the summer.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Right there, I don't know anything. He just said, Yeah,
what are you talking talking about?
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Drink station? What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
So it's in their nursery and I just give this
quick advice on things that you should But what's the.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Drink station mean? Don't I didn't see a drink station.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
You didn't see the SCIENTI says, drink station.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
But I was looking for like a drink station.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, like the kids are drinking out of the bottles,
Like there's empty bottles in there for kids, and it's
like the drink station. The first one I was, I
was eating them.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
But I'm not the audience. And also, yeah, I don't
I've never had a baby, so it's like, what am
I doing? I saw it, I was like, I'm missing
at the joke. I just squired it out.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Now, dude, listen, I've been a dad for many, many years.
I have four boys. I'm not getting it.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Are you trying to be an influencer, a dad influencer?
Speaker 2 (48:38):
No, I'm just having fun with side money.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I mean yeah, I'm having a little fun with it.
I got a TikTok now.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Guys, Hey, well he sounds like Bill Belichick. I TikTok.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
I'd take it once a week.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
So what's what's the best case scenario with your dad influencing.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
I haven't really thought that far. I just have fun
doing it. My wife wouldn't be the kids to do
it with me, and we just have fun, like collaborating together.
Why don't you look fun making these videos and like
the target audience, like you have these people commenting, especially
the females, because they're like I want them to be like, hey,
look to their dad's new dads, husbands, whoever might be
what we should be doing.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
So, have you had a video that's gone like soft viral? No?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I think the first one was like six thousand views.
What do you get normally I don't really post many reels,
maybe like two to three.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Okay, so it was better than your average double.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, it depends on what viral
soft viral, So for me maybe yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Could I give you a tip, Yeah, if you want
to have this be your thing, what the social media
platforms do, because if you go to my TikTok, I
used to TikTok as an example, my TikTok, it's all
country music stuff. It's really I don't do anything except
stuff country music or country music adjacent because they feed that.
Because there's really no such thing as social media anymore,
it's mostly media you want and for you media, So
(50:01):
especially TikTok, Like if I'm all in the following page,
I quickly go over to the for you page because
I wanted to feed me things that I want. And
it used to just be we would follow as social
media was you just see what everybody you're following does.
Now it's even YouTube is basically a for you page
more so than just than who you're following, and so
if you're creating a certain type of content, it feeds
that content to the people that want that kind of content.
(50:24):
If you're doing that, then you put up some Celtic stuff,
and that those people see your Celtics thing, they don't
like it, it'll stop putting that content into their feeds.
So you have to be super consistent with it and
not fully divert from it if you want that type
of content to be focused and given to people who
don't follow you, who want that type of content.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
I think for TikTok, that's because the only two videos
I have are the two that I've done on TikTok,
that is, and the second one. I mean it was
like as of yes or a couple of days ago,
it was like eight hundred views compared to the first
one that have been out for a month and only
had like two hundred now had a lot more interaction,
and that TikTok is strictly as of right now just
(51:03):
for those videos. That's the only thing I've put up
on there and the only time I've gone on there.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
It's why I have set separate sports accounts now, because
I would find that put sports up on stuff I
put music stuff on it, it would kill both of
them because sports people didn't want see the country music
stuff and the countries and people don't see the sports
stuff and everything's before you page now more so than
it is people you're following. So my TikTok is all
country music stuff, interviews, me talking about it, et cetera.
My Twitter for the most Twitter sucks. Twitter is the worst. Now.
(51:29):
I love Twitter, it is, it's my favorites forever. But
it's it's scumbag. It's like their nudity on it. Now
they're finding these bought farms that people can buy so easily.
It's so easily manipulated you can't trust it. Twitter was
my favorite, It is now the worst. It's the most toxic.
That is.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
I just put up anything because like who cares. It's
like paint and building in a bad neighborhood that like Twitter.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Is like you're like having a bad day to day.
That's it, right, I use the right stuff like that
or like.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
No, don't you say, like a grandma, I don't want
to see if people are eating every you know, here's
what I'm eating. Well, when I get on Twitter, I
see Twitter's best for news.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Other than you stuff people other people I see it
just they say stuff just like you know, what's the
deal with green blah, like you know.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Why people Seinfeldt tweets and then people starting you know
what I mean. I don't think you're on Twitter enough.
I'm definitely not on minds all news, sports news, it's
mostly news.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah, and good luck with that, thank you. I thought,
so he's you're really trying to do this dad thing.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
First it was just kind of an idea, and then
now I just I legit, have fun with it. It's
just a fun little side thing and if it turns
into something, great.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
So what's best case scenario for you in this dad
fluencing world?
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Best case is to gain a following, especially following on TikTok.
I don't know more than I have on Instagram. I
guess than ten thousand.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
Okay, good, ten thousand. You can monetize it, Okay, so
there we go ten thousand. Now you can do lives
at ten thousand. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
You can monetize your lives.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
You can monetize anything. I think I think ten thousand
is live, right, Mike.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, and you said up a TikTok shop at ten dolls. Yeah, okay,
well there you go ten thousand then, and then just
kind of see where it goes from there, and if
I can monetize off of it, great, But these kids
are also so young for so long. That's the thing too, Eddie.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
What's your goal best case scenario being a grill fluencer oo.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
I mean, I really hadn't thought of it until now
that Kevin thinks I invited him over to be a
grill influencer cameraman. But I'm for it, and I didn't
really even think about just kind of focusing in on
my TikTok on what that's going to be about, because
right now it's anything, everything and anything. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Maybe, and in social media times that was what you
could do because the people that followed you cared. But
now what you need to do is catch the algorithm,
and the algorithm is feeding your specific type content to
a specific type person and if you're producing anything outside
of that, they don't know that at first, and all
of a sudden they're saying that the people who usually
like your grilling stuff, they don't like whatever you just
put up. But what you just put up is you
(53:54):
singing with your guitar. Yeah, Jimmy Buffett's song exactly. Because
those people that used to like you get the point you.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Know what I'm thinking about doing, and I probably will
start doing this here soon. But I like watching what
people put on TikTok and like there's like, hey, here's
a saracha chicken. I tried that. I want to take
that and then make it myself and see how good
it actually is, because a lot of people put these
things on there, like this is so good in the summer.
But then I'll make it and be like this is
not good at all.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
You have to do it and you have to be
consistent with it.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yeah, but I do it anyway, so why not record it? Right?
Like I do take meals off of TikTok and cook
it for my family anyway, and then we kind of
judge it. Do we like it? Keep doing it? We
don't like it, don't do it anymore. But instead of
just doing it for the family, do it on TikTok, Like.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Are my influencers here? Look at us. It's like my
coaching tree. There you go, Yeah, it's like my coaching
tree all right. Finally, in New York City, pawn shop
owners put a guilty to buying and selling luxury items
stolen by a burglary crew. Cruise victims include Joe Burrow.
There's people who stole from him.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Yes, this was the pawn shop, yeap. So like, as
a pawn shop owner, if you know that these are
stolen goods and now you're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yes, got it, but but no is a general person.
If you know it's stolen as you sell it, well,
I feel like that's that's what a punch chop is,
right like, not stolen, not supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
But no, that's usually what happens.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Right now, they checking all that.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Not only that.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
We used to punch shop a lot as a kid,
because you just pawn anything and they give you a
fraction of the price. And then let's say I wanted
to pawn the Vanderbilt helmet we got from Diego Pavia.
If I want to punchop, I was like, not going
to do that. No, but I want to pawn this.
They gotta be like, I'll give you thirty bucks for it.
Now he doesn't own it, but he takes it, gives
me thirty bucks. He has the helmet. After a certain
amount of time, I have to go back and to
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buy it back, I have to pay forty five dollars.
But if I don't buy it back. He then has
it and owns it and then he can sell it,
but he knows he's going to sell it for seventy dollars.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
So you take it for quick cash. Yeah, with the
plan of getting your property back.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
You need money. Now. It's almost like a loan check
cashing place, Yeah, but with stuff. And the difference is
with a check cashing place, they're giveing you a little
less money to get it early, right, and they'll get them.
You guys, ever been mad and all that?
Speaker 2 (56:06):
I've never been, But I have an idea.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
I have a family.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
It's a version of that where they're going to give
you less than it's worth. You get some cash, you
do get a chance to buy it back, but you
got to buy it back with interest. So they're making
money off of that at the least. And if you
never come back, they know that that's valued it more
than what they gave you for it, so they can
sell it and make a profit then. So they're making
a profit. As soon as you drop something off and
they value and give you they got a profit.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
As far as it being stolen, they ask.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
You, yeah, well are there stolen things that are sold? Absolutely?
But I don't think and having family members that have
run pawn shops and use pun shops. I don't think
most things are stolen.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
I had a friend a long long time ago stole something,
took it a pawn shop in the same city that
he stole something.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
Oh yeah, he got arrested.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah, is that because the pawn shop told on him.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Well, they run it like, make sure there's nothing reported
stolen of this, whatever it might be, and if they
see them pop up, then they report it to the
police and then so forth.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yeah. That Joe Burrow stuff's crazy.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
I wonder how they knew the guy knew the paunch
shop guy. I wonder how they knew he knew. Yeah,
all right, cool, all right, that's it. Thank you guys. Hey,
before we go, Edie, want to talk about Cowboys Camp
for a second.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Yeah, just a few updates. I thought it was really interesting.
I love the press when they talked to Jerry Jones
and one of them asked, Jerry Jones, uh, you know,
have you ever thought of stepping down as a general manager?
And he said, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
Oh, yes, momentary. I love a moment.
Speaker 5 (57:36):
Now we're getting that to it small fractions of seconds.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
You got a fractions you got us good, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
And then another thing too is they're showing the quarterbacks
and like that's pretty cool, and they was like, who
is that? You know, Will Greer's in the Cowboys, Like
I had no idea. I know Joe Milton's, you know,
the backup, but Will Greers on the Cowboys. And they
spent h had a little lot of camera time. I'm like,
why are we highlighting Will Grear? Are we is there something?
Are they telling us something?
Speaker 3 (58:06):
Why do you hate Will Gear?
Speaker 1 (58:07):
No, no hate, It's just like, you know, he's just
you know, he's been in the league for three six,
six years, six years I could be wrong, five or six. Yeah,
it's been a while. And I didn't even know he
was a Cowboy. And they spent some time on Will
Greer at camp, like that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
I think they probably just highlight the second guy because
they know he's gonna play a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
No, I think Milton should be the second guy though.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
Right, it's a good pointing.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
Did you guys see Justin Fields went down?
Speaker 3 (58:33):
I did today. I saw across today. They said he
started that like he walked at first Jets camp. I
can read you this from the athletic Justin Fields carted
off a training camp. The New York just quarterback left
the training camp field on a cart Thursday after he
dropped at the ground following an incomplete pass during eleven
on eleven drills. He initially walked off the field to
the medical tent with a heavy limp before being driven
inside the locker room.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
Do you have more to toe from what coach? Who's
their new head coach? Quinn not Quinn? Glenn Glynn?
Speaker 4 (59:04):
There?
Speaker 3 (59:05):
Like, who's the head coach?
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Of the Jets?
Speaker 1 (59:07):
Got it and it's like a day to day so
what's wrong with the tote of?
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Then he just said we'll know more Aaron gn the.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Liken Glenn Powell.
Speaker 4 (59:16):
Great.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
I started to think, do I not know who the coaches?
Clint Aaron Glenn that defensive coordinator from the Lions. Yes, okay,
thank you guys, that's gonna be it. Appreciate you, appreciate
the Eddie, Thanks for the hot tips on grilling and
the cowboys and who lives in town now that Josh Allen?
All right, thank you guys, and we will see you
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guys early next week. Bye, buddy, Yeah, look, thank you.
Theme song written by Bobby Bones That's Me and performed
by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music.
You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bone Sports.
Thanks to our crew co host at Producer Eddie Segment,
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producer at kickof Kevin, and executive producer at Mike Gestrove,
but most importantly, thank you for listening Bobby Bones. We'll
talk to you next time here on twenty five whistles
To see a podcast call twenty five whists stuck in
football and they go a whizz.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So, yeah, it's too bad, But what did you expect.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's a podcast call twenty five whist.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Souls twenty line. I mean, football's kind to hear, which
is exciting because we've been like struggling. Blow at Eddie,
Thank you welcome. Albert Breer coming up in a little bit.
The funniest thing and I guess if I had a
company credit card, I just would not use it at
the strip club. I would find a way to get money.
(00:39):
And that's kind of what's happened as a part of
this whole NFLPA, the whole scandal with the owners, and
really it comes down to this that Deshaun wants to
get all the guaranteed money. The owners were secretly colluding
to make sure nobody gets that again, so we're gonna
make sure it doesn't happen, but they can't really do that.
And then the guy that's representing the union, this is
a very rough version of this, the guy that's representing
(01:00):
the union is like, Okay, I can kind of throw
you guys a bone, but you throw me a bone later.
And so then they are investigating him, and then turns
out he's been using his credit card of the strip
club the company, and also that strip club should have
had like a better charged to name instead of like
(01:21):
Lucy's Diamonds Cabaret. It should just be like Money Center,
right right, Yeah, so yeah, we'll talk to Albert Brier
about that. I've never had a company credit card. I
still don't have one.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You don't. That's surprising to me.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I don't want one now, but I don't have one
because I never want to use one. I have people
that have them. Actually, I have them that I give
people for me. Like Mike, you have a credit card, mind,
I do have one?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, Wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Morgan has one.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Morgan number one, Scuba has one.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Scuba has a company card, though, like I have people
that have cards on my account O business.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Mike has a Bobby Bones card.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yes, oh, I thought you're talking about like an iHeart.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
No, Mike has a ME card right yeah, yeah, here's
your name on. So does Morgan number one.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
How hard is that to have that in your wallet?
I feel like I'd be.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Heard at all.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I just have it in there whenever we buy something
for the show or on the road or something. It's
gonna use it, never think about it, and don't.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Use it as the strip club. I want to see
where it's from.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's crazy, is it?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Brandon?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Do you have one yet?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't know yet. So Brandon is gonna get one too.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Possibly Reed had one read I think out of one,
I think read which. By the way, Rea hit me
up last night. He was like, I miss playing golf.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
They don't have that in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna read his message. He said, I want
to play golf so bad.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
How his voice?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
How Saint Louis? He said, not terrible, just hate downtown.
Gonna be out here for a few weeks, So gonna
be out out of here. But he says, going to
be out here for a few weeks because we're headed
to New York for a few days. Yeah, Matt, he's
sister's wedding.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's like Reid is right here.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
He hates Saint Louis. But I think Reid possibly had
a credit card. Let me ask him. That just means
I trust you. If I'm giving your card and you're
gonna have to buy stuff that we're gonna need for
the operation. And I don't have to buy everything. What
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does he have to do right now?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Nothing? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
What's hey, we're recording the podcast right now. We're talking
about you question. Did I ever give you a credit
card of mine? You did, not a physical copy, but
just pictures.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So then what I did with him was even better.
I gave him a copy of pictures of my card
with numbers and the CVV.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Technically he still has it.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh he does, because he had to buy something the
other day.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh yeah, I got a couple of a couple of
little gifts for myself. Read Is it hard having that
those numbers in hand? A little bit?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You know, I mean, it's just it's tempting, you know.
Can you use it at the strip club? I don't
know about the strip club, but I mean it works
perfectly at Sonic.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I told him that you're not loving downtown Saint Louis.
It's not the greatest. I be honest. I'm ready to
move a little bit outside of the city. It's just
it's just scary. Man, just taking the dog out, I'm
like looking over my shoulder, man, try not to.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Say anything, look at anybody.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
When do you get to move outside the city, like
next week or next year.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I wish.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
So we're gonna start looking in January. Our lease in April.
But if we find something in January and it's open,
I'm just gonna be like, we're going year three years.
It's not too bad this. You just survive, survive for
six more months, like literally, Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
That's all I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, surviving, making my way.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I hope you have a good day. Thanks man, y'all too,
Love you guys, say Boddy.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Next time, can you talk to read as read?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Man, is that an echo?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It sure is.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Hulk Cogan died seventy one years old. I made a
list of my favorite wrestlers of all time in Hulk's honor,
But then he didn't make it honor. I did my
mount rushmore of wrestlers. Okay, because Hould Cogan in my
lifetime is the biggest wrestler ever.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I did not know he died.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yep, WHOA just died? Like this morning? Whoa? This goes
up Thursday afternoon and it happened this morning. Yeah, oh yeah,
I should tell you the story. Then, seventy one years old,
Hulk Cogan died cardiac arrest are saying, as of right now,
ambulance cops, the whole thing took him out in a stretcher.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I saw some posts like Jimmy Hart was saying, like
yesterday that he's like he's not doing too good.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I was like, but it's whole, but.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, he's not good.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I hate to have to break that news to you. Yeah,
we've been sitting with it a little bit because we
did it on the podcast number one on my Mount
Rushmore's Sting my favorite wrestler of all time and blonde
haired Sting to go to his face paint, but he
was black haired Sting in the trench coat way longer. Yeah,
but my favorite was California Sting.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, I don't even know blonde haired Sting.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Stone Colds a number two, yeah, nic show and definitely
number two at number three. I have the Ultimate Warrior
absolutely because I was a kid and I thought his
muscles were freaking huge and he wore those bands around
his arms and I shook the ropes. I loved Ultimate Warrior,
rooted for him to beat Hulk Hogan many times and
then finally rap Master pn news.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh I'm gonna have to google him.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I don't know that one.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Very brief career, but I thought he was the coolest
because he rapped. He was terrible too. He'd be out
there and be like yo baby, yo baby yo. He
was my favorite rap Aster P and new News is
I wanna play a look for her, Go get ready,
break yourself, boys and girls. He comes out, He's in
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like a unit hard.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Set that I should wrap for my wife if I
had to it, I wouldn't think twice. They can't just
make I don't kill what they say because that's not
They came into your news and play.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So if you don't listen.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Take my my sore ass the price.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
By yo baby yo baby Yo, Yo baby, Yo baby
Yo Yo baby, yo baby yo.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Laugh.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It's so corny. That's pretty cool. But that was my favorite.
I think he had like a three month career. But
I loved rap Master Pan.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And his outfit. I mean, his his whole image. It's
even better.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And the PM the N is Paul New. That was
his name. Paul New.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Didn't know that. Don't think he had much of a
career other than rap Master P and News. A matter
of fact, I don't think rap Master P and News
had much of a career. I just thought it was
so cool that a guy came down and wrapped in
the middle of the ring.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Awesome, that is cool.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, rest in peace, Holcokeing seventy one years old. A
quarter of sports betters have missed bill payments over wagers.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
What do you What do you mean? How do you
do that?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
You don't pay a bill, you gamble with it instead.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Oh yeah, see they tell you that there's like a
little disclaimer there that says, do not do stuff like that.
This is for entertainment.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Only you ever done that. We're all looking at you. No, dude,
like all of us were looking at you.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I would never miss a bill because of gambling. Like,
have I put in a few extra deposits, yes, but
nothing where I'm going to get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
American's back close to one hundred fifty billion on sports
at least last year, according to the American Gaming Association.
US News and World Report polled twelve hundred people who
placed sports bets in the past six months, and thirty
percent have debts because of gambling. More than two and
ten admit they've verbally abused an athlete, either in person
or online. You guys need to chill out.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
First of all, I love betting, but it's entertainment. It
needs to be treated as such. And it's awesome because
it makes me be involved in games and situations I
won't even care about. Like it brings entertainment to me.
If I bet twenty five bucks on something and then
I have nothing to do. But now I'm watching some
cricket game in India. I now have provided myself with
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twenty five bucks of entertainment.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And if you're watching that cricket game in India, heye,
you're not alone. I've been there, man, Yeah, I've been there.
But it gets better.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You're treating them like they're kids who growing up being
made fun of.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
No, it just say you're not alone, because I mean,
I'm sure people in that dark, dark place are thinking
like I'm the only idiot. No, you're not.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Have you been there, like in that dark place? Better
an idiot, like oh my.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Gosh, betting on a random horse race?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
No, but like not paying your bills?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
No, never been there, but yes, I I found myself
at like you know, eleven am trying to watch this syndicate,
this well simble cast of a race in California.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yes, I've been there, and by racing means a dog race,
not even horse. Bill Belichick's getting a Hulu doc series
after Hard Knocks falls through and Jordan is Jordan, Hudson's
girlfriend is part of the oh executive produced Who is
This Guy Who was a Quarterback? In May that it
was Hudson who allegedly torpedoed a deal that would have
had the NFL coaching legend on Hard Knocks as he
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embarked on his first season as head coach of North Carolina.
News broke yesterday that Hulu has shown interest in telling
the unc Belichick story in a proposed DOCU series. It
does appear Hudson has managed to involve herself with a
new deal. A firm controlled by Hudson has registered trademarks
for Chapel Bill. That's funny, Ya do your job Bill's
version and No Days Off Bill's version. Belichick's first game
(10:58):
as head coach at u NC is against TCU Monday,
September first, Pretty.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Quick, Gotta go. Chapel Bill, Chapel Bills, Bill, Chapel Bills.
Find Does everyone know?
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I guess everyone knows that it's in Chapel Hill right.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, well if they if they don't, they wouldn't even
get Chapel Hill, right, Like to get Chapel Bill, you
have to get Chapel Hill. And so if you see
Chapel Bill and you don't get it and it's in
that blue, you wouldn't get it anyway if it said
Chapel Hill.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, right, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah. ESPN has said to be closing in on the
next era defining media deal. Sources in the loop say
negotiations with NFL and ESPN are closing. The deal, those
sources say would see ESPN acquire NFL Media, which is
the arm of the league that focuses on content and
runs the NFL network. I do believe that they're getting
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Red Zone Chain Zone. Yeah, that'd be one of the
products that they buy. It's no coincidence that this coming
fall we'll see ESPN's programming become available as a direct
to consumer product at twenty nine ninety nine a month.
I'm not sure what that means. I know what it
means is then you pay twenty nine ninety nine and
then you get ESPN. But I don't think they're coming
off of cable. I don't have cable. I have YouTube TV.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Mm hmm, yeah same.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Is that the same thing? What as cable?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes? Uh what do you mean.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Because like you say, you don't have cable? Is cables
even still exist?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Because yeah, yeah, like Spectrum or Infinity Yeah for sure?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Even direct TV?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah still I think all that can which say provider. Yeah,
I use as my main provider YouTube TV, so I
get a ESPN, But then I also subscribe to ESPN already,
So I don't know how this direct consumer model changes things.
Maybe you don't have to have a package at all
and you can just buy ESPN for twenty nine ninety
nine a month. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, like, well, maybe you don't have to have YouTube TV.
That's what I'm saying right as like a streaming service basically.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But then it's do you have no it's for people
who have no streaming services I assume, or not streaming
service providers for cable I hard.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
To yeah, so hard.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, another way for them to get our money, how
about it?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Eddie and I played another round of our golf tournament yesterday.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Okay, round two in the books, Round.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Two of four the humiliation games, okay, where I have
to give Eddie five hundred bucks if he wins, and
he has to dress up in a superman costume and
stay on the street corner for two hours holding a
sign this is Bobby's better golf than me, and then
grill from my wife and I in the same superhero costume.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's gonna be weird and be honest.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And we played round two yesterday. Round one, I shot
at eighty four. Eddy shot at eighty five. Round two yesterday,
I shot at eighty four again and shot at eighty six.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Day So I am three strokes.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Back the same course, same course you're doing all four.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I did that because it was close and easy.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, why not? Yeah, we're not day So it's a dogfight, dude.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
It's weird because like Eddie was getting malthed yesterday and
it wasn't the guy he usually is.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You're get mad, Yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Something kind of just irked me the wrong way, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Like a competitive Eddie came out.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
People like Bobby.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Hits in the water and then he drops in the
middle of the fairway. I'm like, oh, you're gonna just
drop it in the middle of the fairway, like that's
where the drop is.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
He was like he was mauthy way before that, by
the way, and if you go backward you can drop
it wherever. And I was backward from.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Work, and then in the middle of the fairway he goes, okay,
so he kicks it a foot backwards.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I'm like, I was, I was already backward and the
fairway's right by the water.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Now you dropped it in the middle of the fairway.
Not so yeah, am I gonna get a mouthy? Yeah?
I got a little mad.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
When that ball went in the water, he yelled. This
is this is how dishonest he's being, because when that
ball went in the water, he yelled water So before who?
So before he this is this is the one point
because I have like three or four before this, But
this is how you know he's lying well, by the way,
one of the things that we were like, dude, like,
you're like yelling stuff I did hit in the water
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was the only time hit on the water. And he
goes water right when it hit in. And so if
that's what made him mad, why was he already being
a drink before that the water?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
No? No, no, I wasn't being mad about the water. Every
hole He's like, is that him because you know him
with a glass, I.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Can't see anything exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So what I'm telling you it's in the water.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's where the water comes from.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Not a single hole.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Was he like, it's in the middle, that's in the left.
But the one time I go on the water goes water.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I was assisting any hey, next shot man?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Any lot? No.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
He he was so cranky yesterday the whole time on
the course. And when you drop, the water is right
by the fair away and there's a sliver of rough
and also Eddie was trying to move his ball and crap.
I was like, no, no, we leave it. But I
took a drop and I went backward for it dropped
in and He's like you're not back far enough. So
I kicked it back.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Even more and a penalty stroke.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
But oh you know why it was because he hit
his ball ten feet off the tee leading up to that,
and the same hole he hit it ten feet off
the tee and that's why he started to get pissy.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Dude. Well was so frustrating. Is like there were these
holes where like Bobby would just you know, hit in
the water or something, and I'm just like, oh, this
is my chance, Like this is my chance to get
a stroke on him, two strokes even, and I could
never do it. So yeah, it got frustrating. It got frusted,
and the whole moody Eddie that you're seeing, I'm not
moody dude. This competitive Eddie. Man, you've never seen me before.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
We played this part five and we don't do many gimmis,
but if it's close enough, really close, it's like's it
was hot, Like you can have it next hole. Yeah,
And so we're at one and it was close enough
to where it had been. Give me the whole time,
and Eddie's like, nope, put it, and I put it.
I missed it. That's fine because I did miss it.
And then he was like, god I did that, and
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he got well, got to the next ta, the whole one,
and I'm not mad about it because you can't call
it anytime. And we get to the next tea and
I'm like, okay, this is where the cookie crumbles, because
anytime he gets like this, he falls apart. And Tom
is with us, our friend, and he goes, Yeah, I said, Eddie,
why do I said Tom, what do you think they call?
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The cookie goes? Because he crumbles. I'm like exactly, Eddie
double bogie, next hole, double bogey crumbled.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, his head games, dude, head games with this guy.
You think they do that on the tour.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I said nothing. I said nothing the whole time until
he started to be like.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Water put it.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
There was a club on a par three. You throw
your irons in between the green and the cart so
you don't forget them.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I know exactly what you said.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Good okay.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
And so we both light our clubs down like our
sixty degrees and Eddie walks back, picks U up and
leaves mine on the ground.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Dang, we're in a match, man. You think Kepka picks
up Bryce. Bryce is the point a club and this
is my point your own club.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
But does get you a little happy because you always
say Eddie doesn't have a competitive edge to him side
to him.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
This is not this is him being a petulant child.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Okay, this is whining.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yes, okay, okay, Hey.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I did see something, though I didn't want to point
out what's crazy? Like there was a hole where we
were I mean it was I think we were both
putting for pars. Maybe he made his par putt and
I got a bogie and he's walking off the green
and I see him put his hand up.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Like I did, Johnny Manzel money to this guy. I
thought I was praying, but I was doing Johnny Manziel
money because I just I'd hit it in the water
off the tee, but the water was like right down
the middle, and I didn't think I made it that far,
and I guess I hit it so good and went
in the water, which sucked, but I did hit it
pure and then I put it within five feet as
my approach best shot. I hit all day over two
waters onto like this, not an island green, but surrounded
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by water green within five feet and I ended up
paring the hole. And so when I finished, I did
the money money Manziel to the sky and anything. I'm
praying that guy. You were like, no, I was. I
was like, because it was over then, that deserves a
Manziel money. Yeah, that round it was over then, But
he hana be a little baby.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
So how was the last two gonna be?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Then?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Dog fights? Dude?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Are how are you gonna be?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
What you mean?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Like, are you gonna keep this?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
By the way, I'm never macked talking way, got in the.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Car accident right before I played golf, so I was
all out like accidents. Well, somebody backed into my car.
Oh man, it was all dense in the back and
went straight from there.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
You showed up in a neck brace and every range,
the arm past and everything. Dang, dude, you shot eighty four.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And you well you didn't see it though, like you
who you're calling.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Guys, Guys relaxed. There's a little a fender bender, okay,
and you still have the mental like wear all.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Round.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Drone was like, oh god, because you find your cars.
It's a new car as well. Yeah, it sucks. How
do you how do you take your mind out of
that into competition? You know it's called championship compartmentalizing? Glad
you asked, Oh, there's a term for that, dude. So
we're two down, dang, so wait three three strokes? Yeah,
two rounds down of four, I'm up three strokes. I
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can lose all three of those on one hole. I'm
not stupid.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
We're gonna we're gonna need a big one.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
But the fact that it's this closed after two, it's
pretty pretty good.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah. No, it's winner's the winner.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I mean round one. He came in with a throbbing headache.
Head hurts, head hurts, round car crash, what's gonna I
never have the car.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I played the game without even talking to I mentioned
at the beginning, say somebody had my car, and then
I focused and play golf.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, round three person on eighteen, I just saw my
window smash in my house. Man, somebody's in my house
right now.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Somebody's got my wife kidnapped. But I'm here, I'm here,
I'm going to play off.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Okay, Albert Breer coming up. Let's take a break and
we'll talk to him. Let's now talk with senior NFL
reporter or sports illustrated Albert Breer. I love Albert when
he's on anything. Right now, he's traveling training camp to
training camp. I think he's with the Packers right now.
And so we'll talk about Jordan Love, we'll talk about
Minnesota and JJ McCarthy because he just wrote an article
(20:43):
about that. And big thanks to Albert for coming on.
Follow him on Twitter at Albert Breer, keep up with
his insight and his articles here he is Albert Breer. Hey, Albert,
I appreciate the time. I know you're at Packers camp.
I imagine camp is like the first day of school.
This is my only relation to NFL football camp, where
everybody's kind of excited on day one and then they
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slowly realize now they have a lot of camp to go.
Is that what camp's like?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah, I would say, well, I think for everybody in football,
and this is the way I feel now having done
this for twenty one years. It's sort of like the
first day before so sort of like before doubles in
high school football, or like before the first day of
school when you're a kid, where you know, you kind
of look at it like you're staring down the barrel
of a gun before you, before you, before you get
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into it, and then once you get into it, it's fine,
and then I would say, like maybe a weekend, ten
days in, it starts to wear on you a little bit.
So it's like this sort of natural progression. I think
that that we all kind of feel like me obviously
much less so than the players because I'm just driving
from camp to camp and talking with people, but yeah,
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there's obviously a lot going on, and it's an interesting
time of year.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
We were at Panthers camp last year we're gonna be
a Titans camp coming up this year, and it feels like,
if you are a young, multi multi millionaire, this is
one of the worst times of the year because it
is the biggest grind, it seems. And the Panthers camp,
they're not even in Charlotte. They're in like South Carolina
in like a at a college. If you're like a
rich young dude who is used to have an access
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to everything, does this just suck?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Well, it depends on who you are, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I think like first of all, it's like what camp
you're at right like, because some camps the players are sequestered,
Like the Panthers actually just moved their camp back to Charlotte,
so they're in a little bit of a different dynamic.
But the Chiefs go to this town like an hour
and a half north of the actual Kansas city and they're.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Staying in the dorms. You know.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
The Rams went away to camp and have gone away
to camp, and for a bunch of years they were
staying in this like beautiful resort in Newport Beach in
Orange County, you know, So it sort of depends on
what team you're at.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
And then like for a lot of the guys.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
It's the rules too, Like there are some teams that
only make their young players stay in the hotel and
then the veteran players can can go home at night,
you know. So I think it's a different experience for everybody.
But yeah, I think like the the older the guys get,
the more the grind of it wears on them and
the more and and you also have like things that
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you're doing that you have to get away from. It's
I think what most people would think, which is like
you're going from living that life to now all of
a sudden, it's sort of work.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Let's start with the packers for a second, because I
know that's where you are today. What's the expectation for
Jordan Love in general? Now?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I think the expectation is that he's gonna he's gonna
level up, and you know, he got paid last summer
and so he's now on on on this tier with
you know, Joe Burrow and you know some of his peers,
justin Herbert and two a tongue of Aloa and you
know for all of those guys, really the dynamic changes
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a little bit after you get paid, because when you're
on a rookie contract, a team can build aggressively around you,
and the Packers, you know, have have been pretty aggressive
and building around Jordan Love, and then you know they
after you get the big contract. Now that means that
they have to be a little bit more conservative and
have a little more long range thinking in the way
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that they're putting the team together, which is sensibly means
that you've got to be a little.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Bit more of a force multiplier.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
And I think there were some growing pains with that
with Jordan Love, Like I think a lot of people
thought the way he finished twenty three like this was
a rocket ship, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
What I mean, Like the way he played in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
And the way he played at the end of the
regular season, like that was just gonna that was just
going to roll right in twenty twenty four, and you know,
the Packers have their answer for the next fifteen years
the way they want to do with Farvan Rogers. And
it was a bumpy or second year for him. So
there are some moving parts on the offensive line right now.
They're bringing in Matthew Golden to a group of young
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receivers they brought along the last few years Obviously Christian
Watson's hurt, but do Tavian Wicks and Jaden Red and
Romeo Dobbs and so, you know, like I think it's
really kind of more on Jordan Love to be the
leader now and to be the force multiplier, you know,
like to be the guy that's starting to lift the
people up around him, and that's going to start with him,
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you know, cleaning up some of the turnover issues, playing
more efficient ball, you know, and then I think getting
getting the most out of a young receiver group that
he's grown up with.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Trey Hendrickson is not even in Ohio, Like he's like,
I'm out, I'll see you when I see. Are we
anywhere close to resolving that?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I would say that is one of the more unpredictable
contract disputes of the last few years, Like because there is.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
So much water under the bridge, Bobby. Two years ago
this really began.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
And part of the reason why he's in this position
in the first place is because the Bengals got a
pretty deep discount on him when they sign him the
Saints because they were sort of in a COVID economy
where the cap.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Was depressed, and so you know, he.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Produced at a high level for him, and the contract
wasn't pacing with his production. So two years ago, you know,
he he really pushed for a new deal. They did
a band aid one year extension. He tried to push
again last year, nothing happened. So this is the third
offseason that they've been in this situation where he's been
fighting for.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
He's been fighting for a contract.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
So a guy who's been through all of that generally
isn't going to take a hometown discount. And the pass
rusher market has exploded. So you have Miles Garrett at forty,
have TJ. Watt at forty one. You have Denil Hunter
and Max Crosby who are also older players. Those guys
are now in the mid thirties, and so how do
you how do you get him a deal that's commensurate
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with the guys at thirty five sacks the last years.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
And then there's the way that they've done their own contracts.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
The Bengals had strict rules on guarantees and structure and
all that stuff. They broke those rules to keep Joe Burrow.
They signed the two receivers this offseason.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
One kind of went.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
In that Burrow bucket where he's like a contract that
went beyond the president Styd set before that was Jamar
Chase and then T Higgins signed a little bit more
of a traditional deal the Bengals have done. So which
bucket are you in? He's in his thirties. I'm sure
the Bengals would look at and say, well, you know,
we want to put him more with T Higgins where
he's been fighting this fight for three offseasons.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
So he'd be more on the on the on the
on the Chase side of it. So it looked like
they had momentum over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Things really broke down on Monday, which I think precipitated
that long drive back to Florida. And I think because
of all that history that's there, it's a pretty unpredictable
one going forward.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
It just seems like the Bengals are in disarray right
now more than ever. They can't sign Schmart Stewart from
Texas A and M either and so, and that's a
contract deal where it's and that was a clause deal,
right like like if you act bad, and Joe Burrow
has had to like step in and be like hey,
even like sub tweeting them like we need to get
our deals done. Is Cincinnati just a mess in general?
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Is it because of the ownership there?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I think it's like I think it's your history follows you,
you know, and the reputation has always been that that
they're cheap.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
It's I mean, it goes back to things.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
That don't relate to any of this, you know, Like
they didn't have a practice bubble until a couple of
years ago, despite the fact they're in a northern climate.
Their scouting staff is very small, like, you know, four
guys and the scouting staff, and and Joe. I remember
having a conversation with Joe a few years ago about this,
and I remember him saying to me, the old Bengals
are dead. And I really think like Joe has taken
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upon himself to try to change the face of the
organization and be the change agent there, you know. And
so he's had ways of putting pressure on the organization.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
He put pressure on them, on Chas.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
And Higgins, you know, and so it's it's not surprising
that he would try to do this with Hendrickson too.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I know, like how Joe values every football.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Season and how he views every season that goes by
without a championship as a missed opportunity. And I also
know he's well aware of the Bengals reputation and what
their reputation has been, not just over the years, but
over the decades, and so he's tried to be the
change agent.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
And I think he's succeeded in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Their scouting staff is had this offseason, they added three
new scouts to the scouting staff without.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think, while they only lost one. You know, so.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
I think, you know, the Chase deal was a step
in the right direction. Burrows deal itself was a was
a step in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And and we'll see where this one takes him.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
But that's that's the reputation they've had a long time
that I think in both these situations, both with Stuart
and with Hendrickson, it's going to follow them.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Michael Parsons, speaking of Edge Rusher's last year of the
deal with Jerry Jones talking about ITIM like, well, what
is there any chance he doesn't end up a cowboy?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Like, you know, there was a point earlier in the
off season where I said, like, I think, if if
you were another if you're another team in need a
pass rush, I would at least make the phone call.
And I'm not saying the team shouldn't now, but we're
in training camp, and are you going to be able
to get full value for Micah Parsons? And if you're
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the Cowboys, are you going to be willing to give
up Michaeh Parsons for assets that you might not.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Be able to use this year?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
They'd be you know, you'd be talking about trading for
draft picks that you're not going to be able to
They won't help you on the field until twenty twenty six,
you know, so I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
It's just been the Cowboys way of doing business.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
And I can't say, Bobby that I fully understand why
they keep going down this road.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
But it's a road they went down with Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
It's a road they went down with Dak Prescott at
one point a couple of summers ago. They went down
this road with Zach Martin where he was out of
camp for I think almost a month before he got
the adjustment he wanted to his contract. Generally, and a
team right there in the division has benefited from doing
business this way. The Eagles always get way ahead on
these things. Generally, if you've got a player that you're
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really sure on, you want to sign him as early
as you can. And when it's a young player, the
first chance you have to do that is after three years.
The Cowboys didn't do that with Dak, they didn't do
that with CD, and they didn't do that now with Micah.
And in each case, at least with DAK and CD,
it cost them a lot of money to wait. So
I can't tell you exactly why you would want to
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wait here. I know Micah hasn't been perfect, you know,
and there are you know, some some relationships in that
building like that, that some stuff that he's had to
that that that that he's fought through and the team's
fought through.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
But he's such a great player.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
I just I don't fully understand the logic on not
wanting to get this one done early so you pay
a little bit less than you would if you waited.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Like they have.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I was reading your article on MMQB about j McCarthy
and you know, obviously last year he didn't play at all,
but he was able to be around the game, and
Kevin O'Connell has and I work with Matt Castle, who
O'Connell was Castle's backup and their boys, and I've been
able to spend time with with with Kevin O'Connell, and
but he was talking about how that system fits any
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I would say cerebral quarterback is if you can make
decisions quick, you will succeed in that Kevin O'Connell system.
How do you see JJ McCarthy coming along, being that
he didn't didn't get to play at all last year?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, well, I think two things.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Like you do feel the effects of losing the year,
you know of stuff in practice. One example I was
given just talking to the guys yesterday was how you know,
when you're in the scout team you learn kind of
like some of the subtleties to throwing the ball in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Like one thing JJ really had to work.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
On was you know, what they call layering the ball
and learning to throw a little bit more touch and
takes taking some speed off his fastball. And that's something
when you're running the scout team that you can learn
to do that because you start to learn like, okay,
like this is what the windows look like in the NFL,
this is how I have to throw the ball to
complete it, and he lost all of that, like all
that works, so he definitely had some catching up to
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do from that perspective, lost some of the meeting time
that he would have had last year. I mean, it's
a really hard year on him for sure, Like he
went through a lot physically mentally. All of that that said,
I think since January he's really checked every box and
he's been around a lot and he's spent a lot
of one on one time with Kevin, which obviously is beneficial.
They've got good infrastructure for the quarterback there with Wes
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Phillips and Josh McCown, you know, and I think for
JJ now it's drill after drill he's gotten better. It's
you know, it's day after day he's gotten better, and
it's just making up for all that lost time, which
you know, just it's going to take time to do that.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
The second thing is I think what you touched on,
which is how good the situation is. The coaching situation
is really good.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
We've seen what it did for Kirk Cousins, We've seen
what it did for Sam Darnold, and on top of that,
I don't think and this is just talking to Kevin
and yesterday They're definitely not going to ask the world
of him. You know, they want him to just be
able to go out there and play quarterback, which is
what they do with Sam. You know, So they're going
to do things in the screen game. They're going to
do things with the run game. They're gonna do things
with play action off the run game. They're gonna do
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things with a quick game. Like they're not going to
be asking him to carry the team and be Superman
right out of the gate. And they've got a good
enough team to execute that where the offensive line, bringing
in you know, Will Fries and Ryan Kelly from the
Colts and drafting Donovan Jackson the first round, you get
Christian Darris back from the acl and then you know
the receiver position, what they've gotten Justin Jefferson and Jordan
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Addison and then TJ. Hockinson at tight end and Aaron
Jones in the backfield. They signed Jordan Mason from the Niners. Like,
they don't need him to go out there and be
Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen, and so the hope is
that you know, he just gradually grows, you know, like
that they can ask a little bit more of him
gradually as.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
He goes on. So I think those would be the
two things.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Is making up for lost time and then just going
out and playing quarterback and not trying to be superman
out there. It's it's certainly worked for the guys they've
had there since Kevin got there three years ago.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I've got three final questions. The first one is the Lions.
They lost both coordinators. Can they hit the ground running
or is it a bit of start over?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
I think one thing that's like one thing. I definitely
have my radar.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
So I think they've groomed Kelvin Sheppard to take over
for Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I'm not saying it's gonna be perfect.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
But I think that transition should be fairly clean. On offense,
I just think it's It's interesting because Ben Johnson is
one of these guys where I think the offense was
very specific to Ben, and it's like a little different
than when you come from these big families where all
of these coaches go different places and they've they've all
been successful and everything else. I think, you know, what
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you hear about Ben and Detroit was that it was
very much like specific to him, you know, and that
he would go into the lab on Monday night and
come out Wednesday with something that.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Was very much of his own creation.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
So I think, you know, Johnny Morton is an experienced guy,
you know, a great pass game guy. You've got Hank
Frailey back who will help on the run game. He's
been their offensive line coach. But how you kind of
replace the uniqueness of what Ben was, I think is
an interesting question.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
And how you make up for it. I think it's
with players.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
And one thing that's like really apparent when you go
out to their practice, how many guys they have in
like year three, year four that are just hitting their
stride as players year five, like.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Pinay Sewell, Amanta Ross Saint.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Brown, Brian Branch, Aiden Hutchinson, Jamison Williams, Jamira Gibbs. You've
got all of these players in that roster that are
still ascending, you know. So we all looked at it,
Alin McNeil, we all looked at it as this group
that was like, God, this is a really talented team.
And then you look at the age and it's like
maybe that like little bit of that tick up that
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you get from where those guys are in their career
can make up for whatever they're going to lose with
the coaching turnover.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Final two questions. Bow Nick's an older quarterback, so is
he closer to a ceiling now than some of these
other guys.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
I think it's an easy thing to say, and I
think to some degree that's probably true. You know, Jayden
and Jayden and Bownix played five years. Those guys are
those guys are older. Michael Pennis played six you know,
so those guys are older.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Than Drake May and Caleb Williams and j. J.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
McCarthy, who were all only in college for three years.
I think Bo doesn't get enough credit for what he
did last year because if you look at like a
lot of the young quarterbacks when they have, you know,
big years when they're young, you can look at the
talent around them and say, all right, like that team
was able to build something really great around him. And
I'm not saying like the Broncos don't have really good players,
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but he's throwing the Courtland Sutton and Marvin.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Mims and and and Devon Valley and Troy Franklin, and
you know, the offensive line is good.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
You know you have got Garret Bowles and Mike McGlinchey
and Quinn minors, but are you looking at like a
really special offensive group. So I think his ability to
come in and play at the levely did I don't
think he gets the credit he deserves for it.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
So, you know, adding Evan Ingram, bringing in RJ.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Harvey from UCF, like, I think there's an opportunity for
him to get better just by virtue of Sean Payton
has got another year with him and they've gotten a
little bit better from a personnel standpoint on offense. And
the defense should be lights out like That's the other
part is like people don't look enough at that when
it comes to quarterback play.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
You know, when you've got.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
A great defense that's giving you a good field position,
that's you know, giving you three and out, so the
other defense gets worn out. That can really be something
that helps, you know, a young quarterback. And the Broncos
defense was top of the league last year. They had
Drake green Law, they add Telenoah Hafunga. It's that should
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be one of the best groups in the league, which
I think will only help.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
My final question is about the NFLPA scandal, and look,
I think now we look at that Deshaun watson Dale
and go, holy crap, because that's just a lot of
money to guarantee you. And now you find out afterward
they're like, we shouldn't do this anymore. And then people
are stepping down resigning. Where does this end? Like what
is worst case scenario?
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Well, I mean, first of all, like I think for
the players, they have every reason to be pissed.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
You know, I always I said this.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
I remember being asked about this when Deshaun signed his
deal in twenty two. People ask like, is this going
to be the beginning of fully guaranteed contracts? And my
answer generally was it depends on what happens next. They
said the same thing after Kirk Cousins signed his deal
in Minnesota in eighteen. Is the next deal fully another
fully guaranteed deal or is it a traditional quarterback deal?
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And then the deal after that, and then the deal
after that. And so what we found in twenty two
was those deals all became more traditional deals, which allowed
other teams to point at watson as the outlier. The
level of organization that went into that, the communication between
the owners, that behind the scenes meeting at the at
the owners meetings where the management council basically discouraged teams
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from doing fully guaranteed contracts, the way the Russell Wilson
negotiation went unication between Dan Spanos and Michael Bidwell.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
It all makes the owners look awful.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
And this is something that the union should have been
shouting about from the mountaintops, and instead they were helping
cover it up.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
So if you're a player, you have.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Every reason to think your union wasn't serving in your
best interest and the best interest of the greater group.
So I think that that's a small piece of what's
a massive, massive mess. And because you have all these
other elements, I mean the crazy Oj Simpson thing that
came out the other day, the Strip Club expenses all
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that stuff, you know, the one team partners thing, which
I think could wind up being worse than any of it.
I think there's an opportunity here for the players to
look at it and say, how.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Do we want to reinvent our union?
Speaker 5 (40:43):
So I think in a lot of cases, like you
would say, like the worst case is this nuclear option
where the union gets completely blown up, but that might
be what the players need here, right, is that we
need a chance to kind of go in and reevaluate
the way our union works and reevaluate what we one
out of our union. I think this very well could
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end with them bringing in an interim director and then
asking those questions. And I think that's probably exactly what
the union.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Needs to do right now.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
A follow up statement, I can't believe anyone would use
their the credit card to go to strip club. I mean,
it's it's all there, it's all documented, it's on a receipt.
It's unbelievable. It almost feels like an old Alabama parching situation.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
I'm not saying I spent too much time in those places,
but they generally have ATMs in there, right.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
But they should list them as different. Now, I don't
want to stand out for the person using the card.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
You can get the discreet don't they normally have this
great Yeah, some of them have like it's like great building.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Money option, Like that's what shows up on the credit card,
not cabaret. The other thing is. And again the final
part of that is the nfl PA, like the union,
weren't they doing it as a quid pro quoe meeting.
We'll cover you here, but you got to give us
something on the backside.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
So I mean there were a couple of things on that.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
There was the first one, which was there were about
twelve million dollars in legal fees at the NFL and
in fighting this case, and since they won the case,
there's the question of whether or not they can go
after that money and try to recover the legal fees
from the union.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
So, you know, one thing I.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Heard out there was there could have been a quid
pro quo saying like, all right, like, we won't pursue
the twelve million dollars dollars in legal fees if you
help us keep this quiet.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
The other one was, of course the j C. Treader
situation where j. C.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Treader was was found to be responsible for for for
them for making the comments about running back pay, in
which case, like they would be, they would be basically
covering up the j C.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Tretder messed that up. In either case.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
It doesn't look good though, Bobby, you know, because in
either case it's like you're putting the well being, You're
you're throwing the well being of two thousand players overboard
for either the financial wellbeing of the union you know,
of the organization, or for the reputation of one person.
And so no matter how how you slice that and
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how you want to cut it up.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Like even the.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Private equity think is probably the worst thing, where like
Lloyd Howe was actually in cahoots with the owners, and
I know there were a lot of people based on
Lloyd's approach that felt like he was way too friendly
with the owners to begin with. And so you know,
having that smoking gun was that part of wanting to
help the owners that you're looking to get an ownership.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
No matter how you slice this.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
Whatever the reason was, I don't think there's a good
reason that the union can.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Give the rank and file player for why they did this.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Albert Breer you can follow him on Twitter at Albert
Breer and also read it JJ McCarthy interview that I
read on MMQB dot com. Also a massive fan when
you go on Dan DP, I love you over there.
I'm a big Dan fan. And so Albert, thank you
for the time and thanks for talking with us about this.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Awesome Thanks Bobby. My wife's a big fan. She wanted
me to make sure I said that.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Tell Rus hello, Albert, thanks man, thank you for the time.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
All right, Thanks Bobby.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
N Eddie has scoop that Josh Allen lives here. In Nashville.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Now, oh, my insider told me.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Okay, and so what is the news first.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
That he lives in Nashville. Now, I guess still plays
for Buffalo but lives here. So in the off season, yeah,
because it wouldn't be possible to live in Nashville while
you're playing in Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Quick flights in the morning.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah, but that's pretty cool to have Josh Allen as
our neighbor.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I don't know if that's true as your neighbor, as
your neighbor or.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
My neighbors because we live here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Do you want to say your sources?
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Let me just say, because I don't want to out
my source, but let me just say my source found
out from some other sources. Parents.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
That sounds like total bull crap.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
It's my son, it's my eleven year old. He was
at a camp. He was at a camp and he
said that his buddies were telling him, yeah, Josh Allen
lives here, according to their dads. Their dads are in
the industry, and they know that Josh lives.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Here in like the NFL industry, something like what industry
eleven football eleven year old industry? What are we talking about.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I really don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I googled what does it say. It says, no, Josh
Allen has not moved to Nashville as of July twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Oh July, that's what.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
That's what we're unless he just moved here.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Well, I mean it was fresh off the press.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
That's all my son's I'm not saying you're wrong because
Aaron Rodgers has a house here. Yeah, I don't know
that he lives here a full time. George Kittle, he
does live here full I mean this is his home.
He's not in San Francisco. Calipari has like a house
here and as a member of a club, you know.
So I think people are here, but I don't see anything.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I think it's probably not a googleble thing, you know,
like it's it's it's still private. Like you still, yeah,
you want to move to Nashville, you want to keep
it maybe so on the down low, but uh, you know,
people in the industry, like I said.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Sounds like you're just start as well.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
But it's possible taking a Jared Allen.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Jared Allen does live here.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
No way, no way. The kids thought they were talking
about Jared Allen.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I would not think so either.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, your kids probably don't know who Jared Allen are.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
No, but they know exactly who Josh Allen is.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Going to the Hall of Fame this year, though, Jared,
that's right, Yep, that's right.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Eddie's given you crap for being a dad influencer.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, a couple of weeks ago, remember we talked about
that he's giving me a crap. And then he invited
my wife and I and our kids over to barbecue
last weekend and he starts barbecuing and grilling up and
all of a sudden, he's like, hey, Kevin, can you
come take some pictures and video of me barbicue over here? Like, yeah, man,
I got you. So then I take pictures video send
it to him. A couple hours later he posts it
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and now he's all about this grill he's and now
he's a grill influence girl flinzer. He even invited me
over just so I could take pictures and grill.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
That's not the only reason I invited you over.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
It's it's one of them.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Then did I make you feel that way?
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I mean, after you just used me for my camera skills?
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Look, how how long have I been cooking? Thought? How
long have I been grilling?
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Yeah, but you haven't tried to be a grill influencer
until you got that Black Lives And I will say this,
your stuff looks good, and I know I don't to
give a crap about that stuff that's like good. I
find myself liking those pictures. And I don't like anything
on Instagram, not because I dislike things. I just don't
think about liking stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
No, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
I doubled have dose.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
I appreciate that. But but look, dude, I've been cooking
for ages, right, so it's natural for me if I
want to cook a little more share on my Instagram.
This dude's been a dad for three months and now
he's showing people had it. This is how you hold
a baby.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Get out of here. Is there a threshold of when
you can be an influence?
Speaker 1 (47:21):
You got to have knowledge, You got to have knowledge
of what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
What if you're influencing as you're learning, And that's your
whole style.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Like yeah, like my whole thing is new parents because
I'm a new parent.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Like I saw something pop up, I didn't the two
babies on them. Yeah, honestly, I didn't watch it, but
I don't.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Know if you like them. I didn't like it, you know, okay,
because I didn't purpose.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
What was that about?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Purpose?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, it was like drink machine or something.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, drink station. Yeah, it's a little drink station, just
something might kind of came up with and saw. And
then little like advice for new parents, and this one
is all about the summary centrals, Like I don't how
to keep your kids cool during the summer.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Right there, I don't know anything. He just said, Yeah,
what are you talking talking about?
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Drink station? What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
So it's in their nursery and I just give this
quick advice on things that you should But what's the.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Drink station mean? Don't I didn't see a drink station.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
You didn't see the SCIENTI says, drink station.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
But I was looking for like a drink station.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, like the kids are drinking out of the bottles,
Like there's empty bottles in there for kids, and it's
like the drink station. The first one I was, I
was eating them.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
But I'm not the audience. And also, yeah, I don't
I've never had a baby, so it's like, what am
I doing? I saw it, I was like, I'm missing
at the joke. I just squired it out.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Now, dude, listen, I've been a dad for many, many years.
I have four boys. I'm not getting it.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Are you trying to be an influencer, a dad influencer?
Speaker 2 (48:38):
No, I'm just having fun with side money.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I mean yeah, I'm having a little fun with it.
I got a TikTok now.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Guys, Hey, well he sounds like Bill Belichick. I TikTok.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
I'd take it once a week.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
So what's what's the best case scenario with your dad influencing.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
I haven't really thought that far. I just have fun
doing it. My wife wouldn't be the kids to do
it with me, and we just have fun, like collaborating together.
Why don't you look fun making these videos and like
the target audience, like you have these people commenting, especially
the females, because they're like I want them to be like, hey,
look to their dad's new dads, husbands, whoever might be
what we should be doing.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
So, have you had a video that's gone like soft viral? No?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I think the first one was like six thousand views.
What do you get normally I don't really post many reels,
maybe like two to three.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Okay, so it was better than your average double.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, it depends on what viral
soft viral, So for me maybe yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Could I give you a tip, Yeah, if you want
to have this be your thing, what the social media
platforms do, because if you go to my TikTok, I
used to TikTok as an example, my TikTok, it's all
country music stuff. It's really I don't do anything except
stuff country music or country music adjacent because they feed that.
Because there's really no such thing as social media anymore,
it's mostly media you want and for you media, So
(50:01):
especially TikTok, Like if I'm all in the following page,
I quickly go over to the for you page because
I wanted to feed me things that I want. And
it used to just be we would follow as social
media was you just see what everybody you're following does.
Now it's even YouTube is basically a for you page
more so than just than who you're following, and so
if you're creating a certain type of content, it feeds
that content to the people that want that kind of content.
(50:24):
If you're doing that, then you put up some Celtic stuff,
and that those people see your Celtics thing, they don't
like it, it'll stop putting that content into their feeds.
So you have to be super consistent with it and
not fully divert from it if you want that type
of content to be focused and given to people who
don't follow you, who want that type of content.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
I think for TikTok, that's because the only two videos
I have are the two that I've done on TikTok,
that is, and the second one. I mean it was
like as of yes or a couple of days ago,
it was like eight hundred views compared to the first
one that have been out for a month and only
had like two hundred now had a lot more interaction,
and that TikTok is strictly as of right now just
(51:03):
for those videos. That's the only thing I've put up
on there and the only time I've gone on there.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
It's why I have set separate sports accounts now, because
I would find that put sports up on stuff I
put music stuff on it, it would kill both of
them because sports people didn't want see the country music
stuff and the countries and people don't see the sports
stuff and everything's before you page now more so than
it is people you're following. So my TikTok is all
country music stuff, interviews, me talking about it, et cetera.
My Twitter for the most Twitter sucks. Twitter is the worst. Now.
(51:29):
I love Twitter, it is, it's my favorites forever. But
it's it's scumbag. It's like their nudity on it. Now
they're finding these bought farms that people can buy so easily.
It's so easily manipulated you can't trust it. Twitter was
my favorite, It is now the worst. It's the most toxic.
That is.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
I just put up anything because like who cares. It's
like paint and building in a bad neighborhood that like Twitter.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Is like you're like having a bad day to day.
That's it, right, I use the right stuff like that
or like.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
No, don't you say, like a grandma, I don't want
to see if people are eating every you know, here's
what I'm eating. Well, when I get on Twitter, I
see Twitter's best for news.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Other than you stuff people other people I see it
just they say stuff just like you know, what's the
deal with green blah, like you know.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Why people Seinfeldt tweets and then people starting you know
what I mean. I don't think you're on Twitter enough.
I'm definitely not on minds all news, sports news, it's
mostly news.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah, and good luck with that, thank you. I thought,
so he's you're really trying to do this dad thing.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
First it was just kind of an idea, and then
now I just I legit, have fun with it. It's
just a fun little side thing and if it turns
into something, great.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
So what's best case scenario for you in this dad
fluencing world?
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Best case is to gain a following, especially following on TikTok.
I don't know more than I have on Instagram. I
guess than ten thousand.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
Okay, good, ten thousand. You can monetize it, Okay, so
there we go ten thousand. Now you can do lives
at ten thousand. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
You can monetize your lives.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
You can monetize anything. I think I think ten thousand
is live, right, Mike.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, and you said up a TikTok shop at ten dolls. Yeah, okay,
well there you go ten thousand then, and then just
kind of see where it goes from there, and if
I can monetize off of it, great, But these kids
are also so young for so long. That's the thing too, Eddie.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
What's your goal best case scenario being a grill fluencer oo.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
I mean, I really hadn't thought of it until now
that Kevin thinks I invited him over to be a
grill influencer cameraman. But I'm for it, and I didn't
really even think about just kind of focusing in on
my TikTok on what that's going to be about, because
right now it's anything, everything and anything. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Maybe, and in social media times that was what you
could do because the people that followed you cared. But
now what you need to do is catch the algorithm,
and the algorithm is feeding your specific type content to
a specific type person and if you're producing anything outside
of that, they don't know that at first, and all
of a sudden they're saying that the people who usually
like your grilling stuff, they don't like whatever you just
put up. But what you just put up is you
(53:54):
singing with your guitar. Yeah, Jimmy Buffett's song exactly. Because
those people that used to like you get the point you.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Know what I'm thinking about doing, and I probably will
start doing this here soon. But I like watching what
people put on TikTok and like there's like, hey, here's
a saracha chicken. I tried that. I want to take
that and then make it myself and see how good
it actually is, because a lot of people put these
things on there, like this is so good in the summer.
But then I'll make it and be like this is
not good at all.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
You have to do it and you have to be
consistent with it.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yeah, but I do it anyway, so why not record it? Right?
Like I do take meals off of TikTok and cook
it for my family anyway, and then we kind of
judge it. Do we like it? Keep doing it? We
don't like it, don't do it anymore. But instead of
just doing it for the family, do it on TikTok, Like.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Are my influencers here? Look at us. It's like my
coaching tree. There you go, Yeah, it's like my coaching
tree all right. Finally, in New York City, pawn shop
owners put a guilty to buying and selling luxury items
stolen by a burglary crew. Cruise victims include Joe Burrow.
There's people who stole from him.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Yes, this was the pawn shop, yeap. So like, as
a pawn shop owner, if you know that these are
stolen goods and now you're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yes, got it, but but no is a general person.
If you know it's stolen as you sell it, well,
I feel like that's that's what a punch chop is,
right like, not stolen, not supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
But no, that's usually what happens.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Right now, they checking all that.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Not only that.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
We used to punch shop a lot as a kid,
because you just pawn anything and they give you a
fraction of the price. And then let's say I wanted
to pawn the Vanderbilt helmet we got from Diego Pavia.
If I want to punchop, I was like, not going
to do that. No, but I want to pawn this.
They gotta be like, I'll give you thirty bucks for it.
Now he doesn't own it, but he takes it, gives
me thirty bucks. He has the helmet. After a certain
amount of time, I have to go back and to
(55:35):
buy it back, I have to pay forty five dollars.
But if I don't buy it back. He then has
it and owns it and then he can sell it,
but he knows he's going to sell it for seventy dollars.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
So you take it for quick cash. Yeah, with the
plan of getting your property back.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
You need money. Now. It's almost like a loan check
cashing place, Yeah, but with stuff. And the difference is
with a check cashing place, they're giveing you a little
less money to get it early, right, and they'll get them.
You guys, ever been mad and all that?
Speaker 2 (56:06):
I've never been, But I have an idea.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
I have a family.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
It's a version of that where they're going to give
you less than it's worth. You get some cash, you
do get a chance to buy it back, but you
got to buy it back with interest. So they're making
money off of that at the least. And if you
never come back, they know that that's valued it more
than what they gave you for it, so they can
sell it and make a profit then. So they're making
a profit. As soon as you drop something off and
they value and give you they got a profit.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
As far as it being stolen, they ask.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
You, yeah, well are there stolen things that are sold? Absolutely?
But I don't think and having family members that have
run pawn shops and use pun shops. I don't think
most things are stolen.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
I had a friend a long long time ago stole something,
took it a pawn shop in the same city that
he stole something.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
Oh yeah, he got arrested.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah, is that because the pawn shop told on him.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Well, they run it like, make sure there's nothing reported
stolen of this, whatever it might be, and if they
see them pop up, then they report it to the
police and then so forth.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yeah. That Joe Burrow stuff's crazy.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
I wonder how they knew the guy knew the paunch
shop guy. I wonder how they knew he knew. Yeah,
all right, cool, all right, that's it. Thank you guys. Hey,
before we go, Edie, want to talk about Cowboys Camp
for a second.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Yeah, just a few updates. I thought it was really interesting.
I love the press when they talked to Jerry Jones
and one of them asked, Jerry Jones, uh, you know,
have you ever thought of stepping down as a general manager?
And he said, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
Oh, yes, momentary. I love a moment.
Speaker 5 (57:36):
Now we're getting that to it small fractions of seconds.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
You got a fractions you got us good, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
And then another thing too is they're showing the quarterbacks
and like that's pretty cool, and they was like, who
is that? You know, Will Greer's in the Cowboys, Like
I had no idea. I know Joe Milton's, you know,
the backup, but Will Greers on the Cowboys. And they
spent h had a little lot of camera time. I'm like,
why are we highlighting Will Grear? Are we is there something?
Are they telling us something?
Speaker 3 (58:06):
Why do you hate Will Gear?
Speaker 1 (58:07):
No, no hate, It's just like, you know, he's just
you know, he's been in the league for three six,
six years, six years I could be wrong, five or six. Yeah,
it's been a while. And I didn't even know he
was a Cowboy. And they spent some time on Will
Greer at camp, like that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
I think they probably just highlight the second guy because
they know he's gonna play a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
No, I think Milton should be the second guy though.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
Right, it's a good pointing.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
Did you guys see Justin Fields went down?
Speaker 3 (58:33):
I did today. I saw across today. They said he
started that like he walked at first Jets camp. I
can read you this from the athletic Justin Fields carted
off a training camp. The New York just quarterback left
the training camp field on a cart Thursday after he
dropped at the ground following an incomplete pass during eleven
on eleven drills. He initially walked off the field to
the medical tent with a heavy limp before being driven
inside the locker room.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
Do you have more to toe from what coach? Who's
their new head coach? Quinn not Quinn? Glenn Glynn?
Speaker 4 (59:04):
There?
Speaker 3 (59:05):
Like, who's the head coach?
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Of the Jets?
Speaker 1 (59:07):
Got it and it's like a day to day so
what's wrong with the tote of?
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Then he just said we'll know more Aaron gn the.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Liken Glenn Powell.
Speaker 4 (59:16):
Great.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
I started to think, do I not know who the coaches?
Clint Aaron Glenn that defensive coordinator from the Lions. Yes, okay,
thank you guys, that's gonna be it. Appreciate you, appreciate
the Eddie, Thanks for the hot tips on grilling and
the cowboys and who lives in town now that Josh Allen?
All right, thank you guys, and we will see you
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guys early next week. Bye, buddy, Yeah, look, thank you.
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