25W: Should Chiefs Fans Start to Panic + 247Sports Josh Pate In-Studio to Talk CFP & Career Journey + What We Would Name our Bowl Games

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:49):
Bone?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
How about them Cowboys?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
How about them Cowboys?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Die?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Eagles Die? Wow?

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Yeah, I've never ever wanted to say that. I think
that's so like, that's the thing. It's just too much. Yeah,
fly Eagles fly, not die. Eagles die. Got it, But dude,
as soon as we won that game, I felt it.
I'm like, that's right enough with that. Fly Eagles fly.
Every single time I post anything about me and my Cowboys,
I mean, you got seventy percent. Cowboys suck, Fly, Eagles fly.

(01:20):
You know what we got you, guys. We got you good,
and we didn't beat you by a little bit. We
beat you by a lot. We showed you who's boss
in that division.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Let's go cabbys.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Do you feel like you can win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yes, I've already made my futures bet. Oh it's probably
not that good though, now, huh eight hundred? What plus
eight hundred?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Really? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:47):
And I thought after the Cowboys would beat the Eagles
and after Miami would lose to the Titans that that
would change, But they're keeping it eight hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Really, I might have take a little Lookxi here, do
you feel like Dyk's coming the MVP?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Do you really feel like that way? I really think
you would recommend somebody to bet it one hundred percent. Look,
I'm betting one thousand dollars on Dak toWin the end.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Let's go baby, Let's go bones. Look around the.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Lead one thousand dollars. Well, he the favorite no rock party.
Still they're both very close. Dak is right this second
plus one fifty party is at one eight. I just
bet a thousand bucks out of a eady. Party's at
one eighty five. So DAK is the favorite. Hey read,
let's let's do it. Let's call it. Dak's at plus
one fifty.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Back to school.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, you've bet a thousand, Well, let's just do a hundred,
bet one hundred. I just bet.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Let's just say I bet a hundred and it's plus
one fifty.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay. Oh, let's see bet one hundreds plus one fifty.
I forgot everything. Yeah, hold on, I got this. I
don't know two fifty.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
So if it's plus one fifty, right, it's that means
the odds of it happening are not in your favor. Yeah,
because plus, I mean you're gonna make plus money if
you bet it even so you're gonna one hundred bucks
makes you one fifty, gotcha? Then you get your hundred back, gotcha?
So if I bet a thousand, I bet a thousand

(03:20):
to make come on, come on, forget the odds, just
do the chant.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
Do you know fifteen hundred plus thousands on thousand that
you've got?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
So I bet a thousand. If I win, I'll get
back twenty five hundred fifty hundred on one thousand.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Gotcha, you got it all right. Let me try again.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Brock parties at plus one eighty five. Oh Jesus, no, no, no,
it's one hundred dollars. If I bet a hundred bucks,
how much do I win?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Let's see, if you've got one hundred dollars, it's plus
two eighty plus one eighty five. Oh, plus one eighty five. Okay,
you bet one hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I'm panicking, guys five dollars because it's a bigger number
than one hundred, and then be eighteen fifty if you
bet a thousand, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
If the odds were minus two twenty, how much do
I have to bet to make one hundred dollars?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh? Boy, one hundred and twenty two twenty two twenty.
I lost it all. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
It's that you just have to learn associate one. It's
actually pretty easy math. It's just remembering which ones are which. Okay, well,
that's fun. I've bet a thousand bucks on the spot
like a idiot on dak to one.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
No, no, you're not an idiot, that dude. That is
a great bet. I mean again, look around the league
right now. Who would you put in that spot right now?
Either over that or Brock Purty? Why Brock Purty?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
What have you seen?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
The forty nine ers have whooped the crap out of
even the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
You know, we're talking about MVP. We're not talking about
the team.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, but he's also played really well.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Could you put Tyreek up there even higher?

Speaker 6 (05:01):
Now?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Last night? It's a quarterback award, I know, but.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I hate that too.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
It looked awful without him last night.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
It's a quarterback. Yeah, it's a quarterback. Why didn't they
play him? Why would they kind of sit him out?
I mean, was I guess we maybe made more hurt
than we thought he was.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I got news for you. I don't watch any of
the game.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Were you in trouble?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
No, I've had a science affection so bad that I
just went to sleep.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
So this is what I did.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
I bet six hundred bucks on the Dolphins minus thirteen
and a half, and I woke up to see that
they lost the game.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah. This crazy ending, dude, crazy ending.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
So just brief me real quick.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
I mean, the Dolphins had the game, they scored, they
made it a two possession game with how much time left?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Fifty five? I believe two fifty five. They were up
two possessions, minutes left.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Twenty eight to ten, twenty yeah, yeah, now fourteen twenty fourteen, yeah,
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
And then and then I turned it off.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
You turned it off after okay, after the title I
thought it was over too.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
After the Titans fumbled the second time and Dolphins scored
to go up two possessions with three minutes left, I
was like, I'm turning this off. I'm going to bed. Yeah,
So I went to bed, and then I got the notification.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Did you watch the all things? I missed it?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I did, and I did. I don't.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
I don't really remember maybe a turnover, how they got
the two how I don't really remember how the Titans scored.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Thanks listening to our sports podcast. Everybody on those two possessions.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
But what happened with what happened was the Dolphins scored
the touchdown and then the Titan. The Titans get the
ball and they score I mean in quick in less
than a minute, chunking the ball. I mean the two
possessions they were in the red zone.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
I saw the Dolphins played a lot of prevent from
what got Twit was saying.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Two plays there in the red zone.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
They end up scoring, and then the Dolphins get the
ball back, and I don't know if they're quick for
I think they were quick four and out, quick, four
and out three owre quick three and out and then
the and then the Texans come back, and then the
Titans Titans Sports podcast.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm literally trying money here.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
I'm trying to picture I'm trying to picture the TV
screen right now because.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
All I remember, let me tell you, Mike, to the end,
they got for they got the two, I.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Know, but they went for it with a will Evis.
I saw him pumping his fist. I don't watch any
of it. Yes, so he got the two. I think
they got the tube and the first time they scored
got it. Yes, they kicked filgal on the second kicked
the fix.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Myself and then the doll I did see.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Actually, the Dolphins did have a final drive and two
got sacked in the last play fourth and like three
he turned it back.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
On at midfield. Yeah, I did.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I saw the Giants to beat the Packers.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Didn't watch any of that game.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yes, right, yeah, And the Packers had their chances too
because Saquon fumbled at the end. I was watching that too.
Giants were gonna win. Saquon had a big break run
in He's like forty yards and then he just stumbled
like sniper turf Monster got him stumbled and as he stumbling,
hits the ground and he.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Fumbled the ball and the ground cause a fumble.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah, nobody touches you and you don't give yourself up
then can That's what they were saying.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
And then so the Packers picked it up and ran
it back like fifty yards.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Those were just two games I did not care about.
Not only was I sick, I just didn't care about
those games because I thought the Miami game.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Was over before they started. And then I didn't care
about the Giants and the Packers.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah I didn't either, But there actually turned out to
be like you could have just watched three quarters and
watch the last quarter of both of them and been
totally fun.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
There's also the whole like two games at one time
on a Monday, which was really weird.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well, two bad games equals one decent game.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's why they have a split screen though.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Oh I didn't see the split screen. All I saw
the split screen. I thought I was watching some weird
YouTube feed.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, yeah, I was watching both games at the same time.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Really wow, all right, let's go, Mike he me the
title Time Tattle, It's time.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
The Tattle. All right, let's go. How do I follow that?
Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (08:36):
With Dylan Gabriel's announcement to transfer to Oregon, do you
think it makes him a contender right away in the
Big Ten?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Year, he's gonna be awesome there. He plays better for
that system. They that's for the Oklahoma system and how
they play there, He's gonna be awesome. I think he's
a Heisman top three favorite going into next year. What
a great situation for him to get into. Oklahoma didn't
even want them because they have their their five star
freshman kid they wanted to start. And he's gonna pop
up there and do his thing. It's gonna be awesome.

(09:02):
I'm rooting for him. They'll play Ohio State, Michigan, and
Wisconsin all on your one. It's like, welcome to the
Big Ten. Yeah, play these big meaty boys. So that'll
be media boy.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, Wisconsin kidding, that's media boys. It's gonna be
fun to see that.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Like dynamic athleticism, of organ against those big meaty boys
Meadie boy.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
All right.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Next question, in honor of bull season, if you can
make up your own bull what would you call it?

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I call it Bobby's Bowl for Bros. And it'll only
be left handed people on walk ons. Bobby's Bowl for
bro the Bros BBFB Bobby's Bowl for the Bros. And
you can get in it. It's invite only, and first
of all, nobody in Floristate gets in. Then only left
handed people and walk ons.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
That's funny. So the whole team has to be left handed.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Or walk on or had to walk on at one point.
If you walked on at any point, even if you
got a scholarship player, you can play.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Would anybody watch this?

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Heck yeah, Bobby's But what's it called Bobby's for Bobby's
Ball for the brosh Yeah, yeah, that'd be awesome.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
If we had all the money in the world, could
we have the twenty five Whistles Bowl.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yes, Arstool has a bowl. They'd be like that used
to be theirs on the ball. Yeah really yeah, you
just pay for it and you can become the sponsor.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Let's do that.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I want to do Bobby's Bowl for the Bros. But
most Bawls are with real teams. Mine's more like a
East West type All Star type game.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
All Star.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, Bobby's Ball for the Bros. I can't take people
off teams unless it's like Senior Bowl or you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, yeah, no, I get it.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
That's what I would be. That's that's the Bowl game.
I would have Bobby Ball for the Bros. Left handeds
and Walker's all right.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
What about guys that weren't good enough to play in college?
That'd be a fun one, you Yeah, so it's.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Only high school guys, Uncle Rico's Yeah, yeah, forty plus Now,
now that would be funny if you do an old
timer's game. That's what I'm talking about, the OTB, the
Old Timer's Bowl. Oh, there you go, and it's only
players forty and over.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh my gosh, that'd be amazing. Can you imagine the
injury would in the time.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
But you'd have to be out of the NFL by
five years. You have to have the same rules of
the Hall of Fame, so you couldn't come right from
the NFL to the game.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Okay, so five years out of the braid Brady can't
play but Montana.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Over forty and five years out of the NFL, and
you can play in the Old Timer Bowl?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Would you want?

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I mean I want Montana right now?

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, I was too old, like Farver far I don't
know Peyton Peyton.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
His neck gang work though, and that's sure, Yeah, that's it.
That's the problem. Would the NFL sure would won two
Super Bowls?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I know, weird?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, Philip Rivers, but he's probably not been out in
like three years. Maybe those are two good Bowl games,
though I don't watch them all right?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
What else?

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Going to the NFL? After blowing the game last night
against Titans? Where do you rank the Dolphins in the AFC?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
They're nine to four.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
They have what we were Cowboys and them earlier this
year the Cowboys Centrome where they've beat nobody with the
winning record. I don't think they are thirty seven and
they played the teams they played with thirty seven and
thirty nine their total records, so it's not like they've
played a bunch of people. Wheer the Cowboys didn't being
very good. But then Diagiles die, yeah, and then Diegles.
They're the two seed in the a f C. Then

(11:59):
we're DoD we rake them. Let's just say, if they
played straight up against these teams, who'd pick? So right now,
the number one seeds, the Ravens. Who would you take
in the game of the Ravens and the Dolphins too? Ravens,
the Chiefs and the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Dolphins, Chiefs. I don't know what's going on over there.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Man.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I'm gonna go with the Chiefs though, just because of
Patrick Mahomes the only reason. But I'll go with Chiefs,
Dolphins and Jaguars, Dolphins, Dolphins, Dolphins, Yeah, Dolphins and Browns, Dolphins, Steelers, Dolphins, Colts.
So Dolphins, I'd probably say that they're probably I would
put them at it like a probably the third best

(12:38):
team in the AFC. They're the two seed, probably the
third best team. See them behind the Bills or no,
you have them, I have them behind the Ravens and
the Chiefs. So the Bills are like the eleven seed
now right, which is crazy, and they they goold win. Yeah,
but well, how about Tony maybe the Giants? When the
Giants was it last year when they got to Tony
and Tony went over to the Chiefs, I was like,

(13:00):
I can't sity unstoppable.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
These guys cannot catch, they cannot line up right.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
That was crazy, man, that was crazy. How do you
line up off sides? I don't I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's just you see the ball.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
That was the only instance where something stupid like this happened.
But it's been happening to the Chiefs all year with
the receivers drop dropping the ball. So it's it's bizarre.
And that play that Kelsey made. And I've started to
like Kelsey less for no reason, in my face.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
All the reason.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
But it's like, I don't root for him anymore. I
used to like Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Shake it off, all right.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
I hear you.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's not even about Taylor. It's just it's just all
the time. Now, Yeah, you know what, he's the problem.
Here's the problem.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's you.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
It's over. I'm over exposed to Travis Kelcey. But that
was a freaking awesome play. That lateral like at the
pass like it threw like a like a shoulder pass,
not even like a sweet lateral. It was awesome. And
they didn't count because Tony was lined up off sides. Man,
that's so stupid. I still like, what do you think
about my homes.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
We're getting there. We're getting getting there. Were no last question.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, Okay, after losing the second straight game, are you
worried about the Chiefs if you were a fan.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, I'd be worried. But as long as you have
the best quarterback in the league, you got a shot.
I'll be worried. But as long as you got the
best head coach in the league, you got a shot.
I'll be worried. But they got a really good defense,
I'll be worried. Yeah, I'd be worried because offensively, their

(14:26):
backs are either injured, their interior line, their guard, their
center and guards are really good. Their tackles are okay,
they're fine, their quarterbacks the best. Their running back situations problematic.
I mean, uh, Pacchio, pacchio, Pachecko. Check mister angry, he's hurt.

(14:50):
McKinnon is fine, he's serviceable.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
But it's like.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
A a layer.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, I mean at Edward's Hilaire. Yeah, I just I
still put it on the quarterback and I do have
faith in them. Will you look up the odds to it? Kensady?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Is is there a future? Because would be the probably
the best time to get them. If you're gonna get them,
all right, is that it?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
But it? Yeah? But I was gonna say they can't
score over twenty right now? I know?

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Thank you his name.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
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Speaker 2 (15:35):
Do you have it?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah? Plus seven hundred.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Oh that's pretty meaty, laughable. What's the rest?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (15:42):
You got the Niners at two forty plus two forty,
and you've got Baltimore right behind that at.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Plus five point fifty.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Wow, big jump, big jump, and then the Eagles after
that plus seven hundred part of the Cowboys. Oh yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Do the Cowboys? They stay, are
keeping them eight hundred, which is crazy to me. Go
after both the win and then the Dolphins loss, Eagles
set plus seven hundred, Chiefs plus seven hundred, Dolphins plus
eight are in front of the Cowboys. Yeah, okay, And
they have the Dolphins and the Cowboys together at eight hundred. Wow,

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and then behind that Bills, Lions, Jags, Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Wow. Surprised by that.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I may want to jump in. Somebody can't City Meet, though,
have you jumped on the forty nine ers meet to
been like too expensive? I got Baltimore way early before
the season started. I think we got the Cowboys as
the season started, so.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
You must have that as good good, good money.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I'd be curious. You know, our parlay did not win,
not even close. We did random too wet like that.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oh, drawing the numbers.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, and it lost all three.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well because we drew numbers.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well, we've lost every time we've also picked Eddie.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
That's the most I've ever felt like out of control.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Who knows what this means? You can't win for any
reason whatsoever? Uh A Lions minus three they lost the
Bears one. Bears look pretty good. Yeah, Bears starting to
do the thing. Yeah, Vikings minus three to the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
They lost Vikings. That was a push, wasn't it. Yeah,
there's a three zero Yeah, still not a win win Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
And then the Bengals one. It was Colt's minus one
Bengals one thirty four fourteen. If you want to take
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Speaker 1 (17:20):
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Speaker 3 (17:46):
Josh Pate came over to the studio and here he is.
By the way, Josh Pate of twenty four to seven
Sports College Football Analyst got a great story about working
at the warehouse out of high school and figuring out
how he was going to get into sports, and he
he got his sports radio the TV parts crazy. Now
he does Late Kick Live, which is a great college
football show. You can follow Josh on Twitter Late Kick

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Josh stay up to date his analysis. It's really a really,
really really great show. Here he is Josh Payton, Josh, Dad,
I'm a big fan.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I think I come across your stuff more in message
boards than anywhere else, Like depending on what SEC school
it is, and if they have a problem with what
you're saying, or they love what you're saying. You may
be two threads away and one of them they love you,
one of them they hate you, and it's it's pretty
cool to see. Do you ever like, did you have
a Google search sell on your name so it tells
you who's posting about you?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Two years ago?

Speaker 6 (18:36):
I did, yeah, And then I learned that's not how
I want to wake up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I had to stop a chance.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
But for real, Now, before I ever got into our business,
I was a diehard message board guy, like loved Rivals
in twenty four to seven, So I was a subscriber
to all those and I think the biggest piece of
gold that at the time twenty four seven Sports delivered
was one membership gets you access to all the boards.
And that was great because I wanted to see what
is going on with everyone. But I realized, like people

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in the college football media ecosystem, they weren't tapping into that.
They didn't understand that's the subculture, like that's where you go.
And so I as soon as I got here and
we started doing a national college football so I started
featuring that stuff. I mean, we would we would die
really deep into the message board weeds, and I had
never seen anything like that. Now a lot of people

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do that, but at the time it was foreign currency.
It was Hey, let's all delve into the same wheelbarrow
of the same half dozen topics, and if anyone else
is talking about it, will talk about it. But if
it's not out there, it's it's not worth our time.
And it was so detached from what the actual language
and what the actual you know, juice in the college
football ecosystem was. And I think, if anything, a a

(19:46):
typical or non traditional media YouTube, the entire digital media
structure has allowed a lot more synergy between what's really
being talked about and what's really being covered.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Do you feel that Kentucky basketball fans are the worst?
And why?

Speaker 6 (20:03):
See, here's the fortunate part about me. I don't have
to shift to talking about basketball. I just get to
do college football.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Then do you feel like Alabama football fans are the worst?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
And why? All right, so right now FSU fans are
the worst? For me? That's right true.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
That's tair though, because I took the extremely hypocritical stance
of saying, hey, I do think FSU got screwed being
out of the playoff but I would also have put
Alabama in over FSU, which naturally makes a rifle fan go, well,
you can't have that stance.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
That makes no sense.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
And my whole thing was, I think I just have
different criteria than the College Football Playoff Committee, Like I
got my own way of looking at it. If they
claim to go by their criteria, they got it wrong.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I think at.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Least I took the same And I felt like it
was a Week's stance too, where I said, yeah, Florstate
got screwed, but I don't want to say himnute. I'm gad
they didn't get in it because it had been a
bloodbath regardless, because you know that.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I mean, look at the Georgia game.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
They're fourteen point dogs and a non playoff game, and
it would have been the same way, and it had
been ugly to have been tcuesque except in round one.
I think the best thing for them as if they
can go win this game claiming national championship.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Dude, this is it now.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
That's why no one else said that the twenty seventeen
season when Central Florida got UF.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
They hung the band right right.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
No one can stop them either. This is not the NFL.
This is college sports. You can do anything, you can
say anything, you can be anything you want to. It's
like make Believe world. And so UCF. I met a
game at TWU Lane last year. It's the only G
five game I went to last year, and I was
on the sideline and they're playing UCF and one of
their administrators comes up to me and and kind of,
you know, nudges you in the ribs.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
And says, hey, hey, we've heard what you've said.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
We've heard you say that that year us getting left
out was the best thing to ever happen to us.
And we publicly say no, no, no, defiantly, but behind
the scenes, yeah, you're right, because we probably don't win
the title and we don't get to claim championship. But
also there's this equity that is invaluable in being able
to preach us against the world and all we got

(22:00):
is us and if we leave it up to them,
they'll screw us every time. Well, Florida State gets that,
but they've got the massive like power five sticker on
their helmet, they've got brand equity, and now Mike Norvel
clearly one of the best in the game. Now they've
got the right guy. And they also get to preach that, like,
they get to create that culture of back against the wall,
like all we got is in the edge of the cliff,

(22:22):
behind us, us against the world. I think they'll be
a lot better off for you just can't say that
right now to any FSU fan.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
And luckily they're not playing someone like a Liberty if
they wanted to actually claim a championship. They're playing Georgia,
who you could argue, Michigan Georgia probably the best two
teams in college football. Right, So if it were Liberty,
because Liberty playing Oregon, that's gonna be that's gonna be
a ugly game.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
That's just gonna be ugly game.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
But if Florida State beats someone like Liberty, then okay,
yeah you're undefeated. But if they beat Georgia, now I
would get rings because we went undefeated and we beat
possibly the best team in college football.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
So the day the selection happened, the Selection Sunday Black
Sunday as they call it down there. Now, I have
it on good authority that, of course, the presenting network ESPN,
they have a crew at every outpost. You got one
in Tuscaloosa, one in Austin, and of course you've got
a crew in Tallahassee, and the general unspoken agreement is

(23:16):
after the selection is made, whether you make it or not,
you're gonna give us five minutes and you know we're
gonna get some sound from you. It's the same way
in like a conference championship game, you always hear from
the losing coach, and that's predetermined, that's decided on before
the game's ever played, so that you can't have someone
wiggle off the hook. Well, I have it on fairly
good authority that when it came time for Mike Norvell
to give his post selection sound in no uncertain terms,

(23:41):
ESPN will told I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Get out of here.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
Because they've rightly or wrongly, they view major corporate college
football media ESPN being the driving force as part of
what boxed them out of the college football playoff. And
because we never get to see behind the scenes, because
you and I are not privy to the the mechanisms
that go into deciding those final four. You never get

(24:04):
to see a committee vote, you never get to hear
the conversation. How can I say they're wrong? I can't
say they're wrong. I got my thoughts. You got your thoughts,
but you can't say definitively that anything more went into
it than what's gonna give us the best TV product.
And I know we're expanding from four to twelve, but
I don't know that that protocol is going to change
moving forward. Like I think that Georgia TCU game last year,

(24:26):
I think it kicked a snowball down the hill because
I don't think the same methodology was used this year
as was used last year.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think that was a turning point.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
And someone somewhere during that sixty five seven blowout said,
we're not dealing with this again, Like if we got
it to do over again, we're gonna put an Alabama
in over at TCU. It just so happens Bama was
the team right there on the prespice again this year,
and they put them in over FSU, And it could
have been nothing more than we think that's going to
give us.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
A better television product, and by the way, it will.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
I just you have a whole separate debate of whether
that's ethical and the right way to go about choosing
your final teams.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
With Flora State, they knew what the protocol was. Win
games and then there's a group of people that get
to decide. It's like the Grammys. You get all the
votes you want by everybody voting in, but there's still
a group of people that can go, we're not doing that.
They can still override the Grammy, which is bizarre. But
everybody knows the rules as they're playing the game. It

(25:21):
wasn't like the board or the group of people that
are putting in their votes. It wasn't like that was
a surprise to anybody, so them go, I can't believe this. No,
but that was possibly gonna happen to anybody. It just
so happened to you, and you don't have a quarterback.
I'm glad they're not in. They did get screwed, but
I'm glad they're not in because that would have been
pretty freaking boring. I like what the coaches do at

(25:43):
the end of the regular season, whenever the poll comes
out and the coaches have to say where they voted.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
It's I think it's the one where you have to.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Show all of your vote, Like they should have to
do that with this, like who are the people on
the committee and show us your vote.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think that would be a great Netflix show.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
So this is a point that I took for granted
in the past. I always just assumed if you're on
the committee, you know the sport, you follow the sport intimately,
just like I always assumed ignorantly as a kid, if
someone's got a Heisman vote, certainly they love college football.
That's not the case, right, And the more that you
dive into it, the more you realize these people kind

(26:17):
of sort of may be ill qualified to hold these
roles or to hold these responsibilities and with the committee.
Like I had a buddy the other day, and it
was embarrassing because I'm supposed to be the one sending
this to him.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'm supposed to be the one who knows it.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
But I had not really looked into the background of
a lot of the playoff committees, you know, day to
day activities.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
What roles have they held.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
You got some folks who at best have sort of
brushed up against college football in the past. But you
look at them and the bullet points on their resume indicate, Okay,
this person could be on the board of directors for
a fuel company, but why is this person deciding the
college football playoff? And that's kind of where you get
into the more granular area of Yeah, I happen to

(26:57):
agree with the decision they made, but you could arrive
at right decision totally flawed logic, and I've still got
a debate to have with you. And I don't think
that's going anywhere, because as you inject more money into it,
into buying the rights for these games, you're gonna want
more of a say into the product that's being given
to you. You don't want some detached committee handing you
matchups that otherwise you never would pay for. And then

(27:19):
that's not the spirit of competition, that's not the real
spirit of sports.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
But that's where we're heading.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
The ACC and Florida State don't have the best reputation
any I mean, best relationship anyway. Florida State wants out.
So does in your opinion, does this affect that in
any way?

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Will they just pay now?

Speaker 6 (27:35):
I think it probably it was already going in that direction,
and I think it probably just just kicked it in
the butt a little bit. And maybe let's just say
you had fence riders. Let's say you had folks that
were indifferent that you know, may may wear a suit
that costs more than my wardrobe per week, and they
were like, we're so far above all of the message
board and twitter noise. Well, now all of a sudden

(27:56):
they see this directly impact their bottom line and they
take it seriously. And maybe that was the signature you
needed to really expedite the process. I get the feeling
that that sort of the overlying or maybe underlying storyline
that's that's emerged from this, is anyone who was a
holdout down there about getting on board and getting out
of the acc no matter the cost.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I don't think anyone's on the fence on that anymore.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Florida SA fans, because I know you messaged me I
love you. You got screwed, and I'd be upset too,
but we're glad you're not in because it would.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Have been bad. We saw them. We saw them bally
play Louisville and it was terrible.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And I think I could have been convinced had they
what Louisville. I think I could have been taken to
the direction of we should let them in. It was
a third string quarterback plan too, right there. Second string
quarterback had a get like a concussion and left. Yeah,
I was there on the third So I think I
could have been convinced, but I wasn't and I'm not.
And I think they also know. I think deep in
their hearts they also know well they do. So here's

(28:52):
here was my biggest problem. We can spend an hour
or one more minute on this if you want to.
My biggest problem was the week before the finals selection.
The committee chair, not the committee chair, the executive director
of the playoff, Bill Hancock just voluntarily comes out in
an interview with ESPN and says, Yeah, most deserving is
not even a phrase that is in our nomenclature. It's

(29:15):
not even in our We don't care about that. We
care about putting the best teams in. That was the
canary in the coal mine. That was them telling you, hey,
we're deviating from past protocol because this is no matter
what he said, that's not the way they've always gone
about it. And if FSU folks want to be mad,
don't be mad at you, don't be mad at me,
don't be mad at Bama.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Be mad at those folks. They're the ones who left
you out.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Also, Georgia got screwed. If that's the case, very true, accurate.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
So is it pure entertainment or is it the best
for football teams.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I think they're pretty synonymous. They would say yes to that.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
They would just say yeah, yeah, there's no separation, right, yeah, okay,
but not the most deserving. Most deserving is not even
in their language. Who cares about deserving? Who cares what
you deserve? We just care about what we want. Yeah,
so we can move on. If Floridas State can beat the.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Georgia we got our on demand playoff.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, and now Florida State can be Georgia and claim
a championship. Other than that, there's really nothing else to
do except hopefully you get in the graces next year.
If you're like thirteen the committee, it's like arguing with
a nump, like you're not gonna get the call you're
arguing about or arguing with the ref. You're not gonna
get that call. However, God, he doesn't want to do that.
He want to have to go through that again. So
if it's close, maybe you get the benefit of the doubt.

(30:27):
How does it make Jordan Travis look like baller?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Baller liked by the way, you know. An another point
of hypocrisy. FSU fans have pointed out that I could
not immediately push back on is they said, Okay, this
dude is so valuable that without him we don't war
in a playoff spot, right, Okay, yeah, well why didn't
he win the Heisman? And I'm like, I got no response.
I don't even know what to say.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Would in the move have been in hindsight and you
wouldn't do it now and you didn't know to do it.
But just lie about how injured he was? Oh yes,
and just yes, he's.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Day to day.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Definitely be back for the ball game, because then they
can't use that with him possibly. I mean, that's what
we all just learned here, like our parents taught us.
Lie right, it's just lie because it's about money. It's
all money.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
I got a buddy in the odds making world who said,
that's the biggest lesson we took away from this is
they're pushing very very quickly with the NCAA for like
universal legislation about overriding injury reports, because they want it
to be like pro sports are, where you have to
report injuries and there's like an independent doctor involved, to
where it's out of your hands whether you're going to

(31:31):
mislead the public.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Because they looked at it like you just did.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
And they said this was just a signal to everyone
to lie about injuries in the future, which is going
to damage the integrity of the odds we put out
and it's going to make us very vulnerable to people
gaining that that information before we do. So they got
to fix that. Like that injury report. I think that's
going to be in the next one to two years.
If what I'm hearing is right, that's going to be
totally overhauled and you will see uniformity in reporting injuries

(31:58):
the same way that they do on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Is a question about just being cool.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
We're somewhere what we're at Arkansas this last week we
do a show. We travel around and talk to head
coaches and we have we put on the pads. We
were doing basketball with coach Muster Arkansas though, and we're
doing we're professional ish And let's say somebody here on
our little crew grabs like a hat during the interview
and says, coach, will you sign this their own personal thing?
How do you feel that makes your establishment look if

(32:27):
you're asking for autographs.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's a good question.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Thank you, Thank you for that great question. Thank you.
All right, So.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
It it's Okay, if it's a temp worker, if it's
someone that you've brought along that is not part Like
if I pull up his shirt, there is no Bobby
Bones tattoo.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
On his lower definite tattoo. Yeah, always a tattoo across
as genitals like that dedicated. Yeah, that's pretty pathetic, That's
what I'm saying, especially right in the middle, maybe even
at the very end end. Maybe it's I don't know
if anybody has anything they want to say about this,
did anybody here anything?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Will say? Hold on? Hold on?

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Let met me ask you a question, because mus is
a pretty awesome guy, right, yes, did he save their
dog from a burning building?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Like?

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Is there some extenuating circumstance that I need to know?
Great question, Well let's go to Read. I feel like
Read would be pretty knowledgeable on this situation. Read, you
had a hat in your bag and I just finished
talking to Mons like half an hour, and go ahead.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I just want to say I was trying to do
a good thing for my future brother in law.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Okay, it wasn't for me, Okay, but.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Uh I wanted to uh just make him happy for
the Christmas season, just he loves Coach Muss man, he
loves coach Mousk. He was like, I would die if
I could get his autograph. I saw the opportunity and
I took it. But he's still alive.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
He's still alive. Does he know what you went through
to get that?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
He does not. No, well maybe maybe you don't tell him.
I don't tell.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Do you feel did you ever think again, like, maybe
that just wasn't the perfect time. Maybe I should have
waited till we were packing up and leaving. Yeah for sure, Yeah,
for sure, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
For sindsight, just making it. That's hey.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
So so I had something like this happen. So we
are I'm with CBS at SEC Media Days two years ago.
We're down in Atlanta, and the benefit of that is
if you have the media rights to the conference, every
head coach has to come to you. So we're set
up in a room not too dissimilar to what we
are right now, only I'm over there and every.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Head coach sits here.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
So Nick Saban comes in, and when Saban walks in,
it's totally different than when any other coach walks in
the room, and everyone just kind of stands at attention.
So our company owns Max Preps as well. And there's
a kid over there, Chris Stonebreaker, nicknamed Stony. He is
the loosest, freest spirit in the world. Everybody loves him.
He does not have a natural enemy on this planet.
He's basically read.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
He's basically.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Max preps read. He walks around with his lav mic.
He's just put the lave mic in your face sort
of guy. So Saban sits there. Every second of this
man's day is taken into account on a master spreadsheet somewhere.
Saban sits down. I do nine minutes and thirty five
seconds with him, because we have ten minutes with him.
And then Saban's on his way out the door, and Stoney,

(35:00):
without asking anyone, just walks around the table and takes
a live mic and puts it in Nick Saban's face
as if that's actually about to happen.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
And then you have like swat.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
And I think Saban's got a couple of FBI guards
with him. It's just like Stony's against the wall and
Nick Saban's like, what are we doing here? But he
looks at and he doesn't have to say it. He
looks at him, what are we doing here? And then
everyone on the CBS crew has to look at stony
and say it's okay. When Eli Drinkwitz comes in here
in five minutes, Hitman will probably play ball with you too.
This guy, we're just gonna treat a little bit differently.

(35:31):
We should have told you, but we didn't let you
know ahead of time because we just assumed everyone got it.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah that is Max preps read. Yes, you're a good dude.
We love you. Thanks. I screw up sometimes, Okay, Yes,
it's okay.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Then you're human. Yeah, you're human.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, and at the end, we'll just do it at
the end for now on.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
Look, Look, it's like my mema always told me, if
no one ever threw their reputation under the bus to
get an autograph, you wouldn't have anything to regret for
the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's true.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
We all need regrets because we learn and grow absolutely
and get better.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, good, good.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
The story about your show and how I got to
where it is now it's super inspiring because, I mean,
you're a hustler. Obviously you're talented, but this wasn't always
what you were doing. You kind of had to take
some risks in order to step away from even paying
jobs in sports to do and build the show that
you're doing now. So how did it start for you
when you wanted to get into sports.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
I was working in a fabric warehouse in Columbus, Georgia,
had no end whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I didn't know anyone in the business.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
I had dropped out of college for a little while
because I was wasting money. I didn't know what I
wanted to do. And I would sit there and there
was this little blue like transistor looking radio that I
would listen to sports talk on all day.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
And I knew that I.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
Would love to do that, and I thought I had
like reasonable amounts of god given talent. But everyone thinks
they can do it, so I had no proof. But
I had no end. I didn't know, like I had
no idea which way to go. So I listen every
day and there was there was a local sports talk
show there in Columbus that emanated from just down the
road at fifteen eighty the zone there in Columbus, and

(37:04):
so I hit up the PD over and over and
over again. I think through Facebook Messenger at the time,
and I was like, genuine, now, I'm not looking to
be put on air. I just want to come observe
I've never been in a working radio studio.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
How old were you at this time? I wanted to
have been our early twenties, so not twelve.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Oh no, no, yeah, like an adult man going I
want to come and watch this.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
I just wanted to observe the process, and so he
hit me up. He hit me back finally and let
me in. And so I did that a couple of
times a week for about two months, and there was
this random Thursday. It was in the heart of college
football season in twenty twelve, I want to say eleven
or twelve, and his co host just calls out, just
like stomach bug, five minutes before airtime. I got to go,
and with no time to prep, he just tosses me

(37:44):
on air. He says, hey, do you want to fill
in for him today? And I'd never got taken off
air after that because what I had done about three
years leading up to that is I would drive in
my gray Toyota Tundra and I would turn the radio
off and I would just simulate sports talk radio.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Those were my reps.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
I was always told, you're going to have to get
thousands of hours of reps before you ever sound like
you know, what you're doing, and so I did that.
I just simulated it in my truck, and it paid off.
I never knew it was going to pay off like that,
but it paid off because I got put on air
that day and halfway sounded like I had some experience.
And afterwards he asked, like, where have you worked before?
Where have you been in the business. I said, nowhere.

(38:19):
I just I told him the story, like that's why
I kind of sound like I've done radio before. And
so we stay on air every day. I was on
there five days a week for two or three years,
and a general manager of a local TV station calls
me and says, I listened to you every day. You've
never met me, but I listened on the drive home.
We were afternoon drive show, and he said, I'd love
to just do a local college football show here on
our D two or CW affiliate at night. Would you

(38:41):
like to do it? I said, of course, I've never
done TV. Is that a problem? Of course, it's not
a problem. It was a problem, by the way. But
so I get over there and they had some churn
in the sports department. He said, oh, by the way,
do you want to be the sports anchor?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
As well.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Totally ill qualified for every one of these positions, but
I took it because I didn't notice say no, and
so work my way up and end up doing, you know,
an Auburn, Alabama, Georgia themed show weeknights at ten o'clock.
No one's really watching, but you're getting experience. And I
realized about twenty fourteen or fifteen that these platforms like

(39:15):
Facebook they were starting to add live streaming capability, and
these platforms like YouTube shortly thereafter they started to add
live streaming capability. And to that point, I had looked,
as many people probably have, and there was like this
huge Berlin wall in front of you. If you didn't
come out of Syracuse from Northwestern, like, if you didn't
have a family member in the business, if you didn't
have an n or classical training or education, you weren't

(39:37):
going to be a big time legacy media type sports broadcast.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
You just weren't. And then all of a sudden, those.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Those big streaming platforms start to give you live capability,
and it's like that Berlin Wall comes down because all
of a sudden, overheads no longer an obstacle. You can
do whatever you want in your bedroom distribution is no
longer an obstacle. You have a worldwide audience at your fingertips.
And so I realized, I don't have to be local anymore.
Everybody can be national. If you have the wherewithal and

(40:04):
you want to grind a little bit, you could be national.
And so I started to do that independently, and they
shut it down because my employer said, you can't be
doing what we pay you for. Your employer shut it down.
My employer shut it down. And that was okay because
I had about a year left on my contract. So
it came time to renew and I declined an option
from them. And I'm the news anchor by the way,
at the time, I've been elevated to news anchor and they.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Gere anchoring the freaking news. Yes.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
Sure was wow, that's crazy. The last thing I wanted
to do. But it was a paycheck. And so they
come to me, the GM and the news director come
to me, and I sit down in their office the
last day of my contract, and they had been calling
my bluff essentially, and they said, we thought you were
just trying to get more money out of us. Are
you really not going to sign this contract? And I
said no, because you won't let me do what I want.

(40:48):
And they realized that was legitimately the sticking point. It
wasn't a leverage tactic. That was really the sticking point,
and so they said, okay, we need to come to
an agreement, like we don't want to lose you as
a news anchor.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
We got good numbers, like there's good viewer interact. So
what do we do?

Speaker 6 (41:01):
And I said, well, if I can't be employed here
and do my independent stuff, how about I work ten
ninety nine. I'll work independent contract for you, but in
exchange for you paying me far less than you're going
to pay me salary wise, I want studio time to
be able to produce my own content. And at the time,
since we only produced a six pm and eleven PM newscast,
there was this wide open, wide out of time, and
so the GM almost laughed and said you want it,

(41:24):
you got it. And so immediately I launched a YouTube
channel and immediately we're able to do a studio quality broadcast,
first of its kind on digital media like a streaming platform.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
And it set us apart a little bit.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
And it took about a year and a half and
the folks at CBS and twenty four seven saw it
and said, we don't even have anything like that, like
do whatever you're doing, copy and paste it, but will
you move up here and do it for us?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
And so I started just down the road.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
We broadcast out of the CMT building and I started
there in twenty twenty, working for CBS in twenty four
to seven, and that was right before COVID set in,
and COVID sucked for everyone. But there was like a
side effect of it that, strictly in professional terms, ended
up being a blessing because so many people in the
sports media world deviated. So many people in the sporting

(42:13):
world period, not just college football, they fooled themselves into
thinking that the public cared about their opinion on nonsports
related topics, and so they started to go down that avenue.
And we just stuck to college football strictly on the show,
and we saw this massive influx of viewership. And it
really wasn't that we were doing anything too special. It
was that people were leaving their traditional watering holes in

(42:35):
droves because they were getting content they didn't want. And
so we scaled while there was no college football happening,
which was the craziest thing ever and the show started
making money immediately. Advertisers came in immediately, I mean we
got Academy Sports and Outdoors on board immediately. FanDuel came
in shortly thereafter, and at that point, it's like the

(42:55):
company just gives you free rain, do whatever you want to.
Here are unlimited resources. You decide your schedule, you decide
your travel, and so you go very quickly from making
twenty seven grand a year down in Columbus to you're
in a world you never dream possible. And on the surface,
it looks like that happened over the span of twenty
four to thirty six forty eight months, and in reality

(43:17):
it's about a ten year process. But that point in
twenty fifteen where the walls came down and those platforms
started offering streaming, like that was the game changer. That's
out of my control, Like that's being blessed enough to
exist in the right time and hopefully you just got
yourself in the right place when the right time happens.
And that right place, right time. It kind of changed
my perspective on that because it sounds like a happenstance

(43:38):
thing right place, right time is just oh wow, this
happened in reality. You put yourself in the right place
and then let the right time find you. And that's
how it happened for me.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Do you deal with because again, for me, it's all
about eyeballs. I just want eyeballs. I don't care how
I get them. I don't care if I'm doing a
TV show on Disney Plus or if I'm doing something
on TikTok. Eyeballs are currency currency. Do you feel at
all because of how you did it? Because I do
in other ways too, because you came up through the
digital media that some people look at you as, oh,
you're just the internet guy, because that piss me off.

(44:10):
And it's like on the Internet guy, but I got
like eight times more listeners than you do.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
Yes, I don't let it. I don't let it control
our methodology. But that is there, and look, I understand
it to an extent, you know, because not everyone over
in the legacy side is just this like trust fund baby,
who has handed their position. There are folks over there
who have grinded their way right and worked for nothing
as well, and so you know, they look at a

(44:36):
process that took them maybe thirty years to get where
they are at the highest rung of the ladder in
a company, and then they look over here, and relative
to their story, my story looks like a fast forward button.
And they look and they say, you wait, you didn't
have to spend mid six figures to gain a degree,
and you didn't have to work for nothing at a
newspaper here in the newspaper there, and do local radio

(44:58):
here and there, and you're still in this position. Like,
I don't respect that as much, and I don't have
a problem with that mentality as long as you give
it a chance, like something someone who has come from
a different path, as you give it a chance. And
what I've noticed is once folks gave our show a
chance and gave our college football content a chance, they
understood that I hold our content to as high a

(45:20):
standard as there is in the business.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Let's go get anything else.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
Yeah, And it's not just production quality, it's what am
I willing to let come out of my mouth. Because
I knew I was at the forefront of something as well,
Like I was kind of first in line, and so
I knew even though it's not necessarily my job, I
took it as my responsibility to know I'm the first
one here, and there are people in our business that
are going to judge every future opportunity they're willing to

(45:44):
offer someone who comes down the same road I came down,
based on whether they respect our content or not. And
so I take that really seriously, and I think that
we've been able to get other folks opportunities because of
the work we've done and because we don't sacrifice quality
and standard just because we can get away with it.
Other folks choose to take that approach, that's cool, We
don't take that approach. But over about the past two years,

(46:08):
the higher ups at CBS have realized that, and they've
looked at traffic patterns, and they've looked at revenue. And
two years ago, had you told me they were going
to put us on the main broadcast for the SEC
Championship game last week, I would have thought you were crazy,
Because even as recently as two years ago, I would
have thought we're in a good spot. But there is
a clear distinction between legacy CBS Sports and CBS Sports Digital.

(46:32):
And there are some very forward thinking folks you know,
that are in positions of power over there that have
seen what you really can't deny at this point in
terms of audience and traffic patterns, and to their credit,
they've said, let's invest more resource over here. Let's take
this bright white spotlight we've had, and we're not going
to totally invert it, but let's shift it a little
more over there.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And that's really all you need.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
I mean, if you're doing quality work, that's all you need,
because at that point it should be like a crack
and a damn. You just kick the rest of the
thing down. If you get a crack, just kick the
rest of the thing down.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
And old people die if I catch you. Guys in't
know old people with old method.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I've learned old people, old.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Execs die or they're out and they get sick, and
you're like, oh, I guess I'll just so let's talk
about Nil for a second. I'm a big NIL fan
because I think if a dude who's a great skateboarder
can get paid in a college classroom to skateboard on
the internet and have a brand, a football player shouldn't
be punished because he plays football. Obviously, you know the

(47:26):
dependent on. I'm a swinging hard right now, and it
is a wild west. I do anil deals with players
as well, just personally.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
I do find and maybe you could tell me your
experience that are wrong. I do find that a lot
of these NIL deals, though, are a little inflated when
they're shared publicly, where people like I can't believe all
these millions of dollars and I'll talk to people and
it ain't that. What is your experience and what have
you learned about the NIL deals and what's reported versus
what's real. You don't have a players union that is

(47:56):
overseeing anything, okay. We talked to Nick Saban about this
last year year and he said, hey, my problem's not
with NIL like it's I'm Alabama. It's in my best
interest to be able to pay players, obviously because we
got more money than most of y'all do. He said,
my problem is there's no oversight. So everyone wants to say, hey,
these are essentially pro athletes. Okay, we're making money off

(48:18):
of their services, so in a sense, they are and
everyone wants to say, well, they should be paid for
their labor. Okay, who's going to oversee it? Like the
devil's in the details as usual, So in the NFL,
like every dime of your contract is going to be monitored,
and it's going to be facilitated by pre existing guardrails
and rules. In college total wild West, you can go
and completely take advantage of a kid. I mean, I,

(48:41):
as an agent, could walk up to you and I
can say, Hey, Bobby, your kid over here is a
four star receiver out of Jones bro He's going to
go to the University of Arkansas. We're gonna help facilitate it.
We're gonna get him deals with JB. Hunt and Tyson
Chicken and whatnot. And you just need to sign this
piece of paper. You don't worry about anything. We've got
the relationships will bring them to him.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
And you sign a.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
Piece of paper because you don't know any better, and
you don't have an agent or an attorney or lawyer
look it over, because you're a low income family who's
never been through this process before. And unbeknownst to you,
on that piece of paper, you signed away fifty five
percent of your earnings two said agent. And also you
locked in his right to represent you over the next
ten years of your career. And so he's got minimal investment.

(49:23):
There's minimal risk on his part if you don't pan out,
who cares. I'll just go get ten more kids. But
if you do pan out and you become an NFL player,
you just signed a piece of paper.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
I'm representing him.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
You can't go elsewhere, And so there is no player's
union overseeing that.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Like that's the big issue.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
But when you start having that conversation, you notice it
took me like two and a half minutes to say
that no one wants that.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
They wants it.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
They want to do a SoundBite or a snapshot and
it needs to look good on a graphic at it
or it needs to go thirty thirty five seconds max.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
So you're gonna lose the audience.

Speaker 6 (49:54):
And you cannot explain nil in thirty or thirty five seconds.
It's not just about should a kid get paid? How
does the kid get paid? Who oversees it? Who's there
when the kid gets screwed? Like what guardrails and parameters
do you want to have in place? Who police?

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Is that the NCAA, is that the university?

Speaker 6 (50:11):
I think ultimately it's gonna fall in the lap of
the conference, and ironically conferences are probably the best equipped
to deal with it because it's not so in the weeds.
But it's not so fifty thousand feet either.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Final question, Michigan, they got really lucky because we don't
talk about them cheating every day.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Sure or false? Very true.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
It's the greatest thing for them to ever happen. That
Florida state was left out. Very true because we loved it.
We loved We love cheating, don't we boys loved cheering?

Speaker 2 (50:35):
We love it.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
I roode for Michigan every game because I wanted that
story to stay alive. They lost a couple games, the
story goes away or what happened now no one's even
looking at him as the big cheaters, which, by the way,
cheat all You can't just don't get caught like everybody
does that.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, I have multiple friends.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Let me not be specific. I have multiple people I know.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
That you talking about, like person of their personal life.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
No, I'm just.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Saying this cheating happens.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
Okay, the cheating happens, but if you get caught, then
you suffer the consequences.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Right.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
That is a rule. You cannot scout. You can't. Everything
that Michigan was doing was against the rules. Even if
you think, well that's easy. Anybody can go sit in
the stands and record it. True, and people do, and
people hack computers and people get practiced.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
All just don't.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Get caught because when you do get caught, then you
have to serve the punishment. And uh, Michigan getting caught
was my favorite thing of the year.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
So it's not what your cousin Randy does with the
I Hop waitress. Necessarily, it's that there's a paper trail
and he left the shades.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Open, exactly.

Speaker 6 (51:36):
It.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Everybody's doing stuff with the I Hop waitress, right, but no, no,
if it's to ihop waitress, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
All good.

Speaker 6 (51:44):
But it's everybody is doing it or something similar, but
not everybody's getting caught. So the punishment is you just
got caught, and so you should be punished not for
doing it, but yeah, for doing it because you got
caught doing it.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
So I hated that. It's not a story anymore. You
want to hear you want to hear a story I
haven't told publicly.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I would love to hear it.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
So the week that happened, the week he got suspended,
they're going to go play Penn State. We're at the game.
I'm up Michigan's tunnel. Before the game, they get to
stadiums Absurdly early. They're like two and a half hours
ahead of time. Most teams are two or one forty
five Michigan as a whole team. Yeah, they get to
the stadium. Wait, Washington does that as well. So anyway,
they back four team buses up to the locker room

(52:24):
and everyone gets off, and then three of the buses
drive down the road and they park wherever the visiting
team would normally park. One bus stays outside of Michigan's
locker room cranked. And remember this this Saturday morning game
kicks off at noon Eastern. That Saturday morning was when
they had filed for the injunction in court, and they
were trying to see is he going to be able.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
To CoA restraining order?

Speaker 6 (52:45):
So they kept calling right yeah, s Eah, yeah, yeah,
which churched it up way above and beyond what it
should have been.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
But I loved it like you did.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Well.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
Anyway, So I've got I've got production in my ear
and they're telling me, hey, there is there is an
outlet that's reporting that he's over at the team hotel
and he's waiting to see the court ruling and if
he gets the injunction, he will then be led via
police escort to the stadium, and I'm trying to tell production, well,
I got eyes on a bus that's twenty feet from
me right now, and he's on there, So he's not

(53:14):
unless that's the hotel they stayed in last night with
wheels on it. He's on that thing. And then of
course it didn't get granted. I don't know where he
went the rest of the day. But the thing about
it is all those dudes are seniors. Like he's got
a player led team. So he takes the hands off
the wheel or they forcibly remove his hands from the wheel.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Bus just keeps right on going. And now he's back.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
And I think it's crazy that we were sitting there
debating should Florida State be in over Texas? Should Florida
State be in over Alabama? And Michigan never even got
inserted nothing, even though they cheated.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Yeah, and now everybody I'm saying, not say to people,
don't other people are cheap?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Theyn't get caught. Yeah, you're right. They never once said
should we penalize Michigan for cheating?

Speaker 1 (53:52):
No one said it.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
My girlfriend is the one who brought it up to
me and said, why aren't they talking about.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
They you just don't get it.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
And she said, I don't think you people get it
and this you dropped a you people on us, and
that put you people.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
What do you mean to your people?

Speaker 3 (54:06):
You guys what we talked about earlier. Watch Late Kick Live.
You watch on YouTube too. I mean, you have so
many followers on YouTube. That's where I watch, Like I'd
consume it on YouTube, and then I watch the clips
on message board when people are mad at you.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
That's how I watch. And that's it's such a same here.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
You have infiltrated in a beautiful way because I'm a
message board guy and I'll just randomly see you a
clip at a time. One thread, people love you, the
next one down they can't stand what you said about
their team of their quarterback. And that is exactly what
what you're supposed to be doing. That's the spirit of
the holiday season. The holiday is all days. You guys
can follow Josh at Late Kick, Josh on Twitter and Instagram.

(54:40):
I'm a big fan, have been for a while. I
had no idea you recorded in the sea that.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Building.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yeah sure, Yeah, there's a whole whole situation up there.
Huht A got a second floor all to ourselves. And
then after COVID, no one came back. So it's like
we could if they inserted a shower in that building,
I would not leave the building yet. How much do
you bench press? I just matched the first time, like
fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
What was yours?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
And I'll give you an over under if I well, okay,
So I don't do ses. I don't do single rep
because I'm told that's not good for you. So I've
never done it. But I was like, let's go tenth
grade again. And so my trainer, his name is Kevin Klug,
he was like roll his eyes. We'd finished the workout
and he was like, are you serious? You want to
just try to max out? And I was like, let's go.

(55:22):
And so I weigh about one seventy two. I was
able to push up one time, but no help to
forty five?

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Oh boy, And that's the asterisk. It was post workout.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Yeah, we had done a whole workout, and I'm not
sure how that compares now, but I feel like it's
way about my body weight it is, and so I
feel pretty good now. I'm not near as jacked as
you are. I I could go above two forty five.
I don't know what I can do well.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
No, I knew that.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
Yeah, I know, I was never comparing.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Me to you.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
I think he was doing over underbones, Oh way, over
look at it and shoulders are cues.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
That's the metric.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
I'm over by the metric system too, though I don't
even know what the conversion to you do in UK
A British doing Jolie good. Let me ask you this, Yeah,
how much? So you work out fairly regularly? Do you?
I do?

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (56:04):
Do you do you showcase any of it on your platforms?
Or do you just keep it between you and the gym?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Very little? Okay?

Speaker 6 (56:10):
Because I found and I made this mistake a couple
of times, like people would ask me constantly, hey can
you give me workout advice? So I just posted like
a workout mash up. You don't look like that guy,
though you should, like all the other girls do exactly
like all of us. I would believe you. Yes, well,
the problem is if you could see what it does

(56:30):
to your DMS when you do that, and not by
Peter Bad, not by people you want to be in
your DMS either.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
It's like it's a cesspool. I'm out.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
I don't know how fitness models do it or the
answer is you never go in your unopened messages.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
That's different reasons.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
I don't go on the unopened messages either, smart but
now like I would believe you ought to watch yours
because you look like that. For me, if I put
something up that's even remotely my wife's like, that is cringe,
that's crunch.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Take it down, and I'm like, all right, hell, you're welcome.
I do put Eddie pictures.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
That's usually Eddie, look at you trying to show off.
But for Eddie, like, dude's gotten a lot stronger.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
Well, mine's more like look at him. You remember him
being fat, Like, look at him now he's working hard.
It's that kind of thing. But I improve man.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Like I don't get people yelling at me for putting
you up. I get people yelling and putting me up.
And then my trade is I put Bobby up on mine.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Now, you never have one time, not one time? Do
you go Do you go to a big public gym,
or you go to a private place. We have a
gem on our property and the trainer comes there. That's awesome. Yeah,
that's awesome.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
Do you get to do it at the time of
day you want to do it or do you have
to work it around no time and day, because I
get like, the best perk of structuring your own schedule
is I can go to the gym at one o'clock
in the afternoon. Yeah, and it is the biggest blessing.
Like I hate morning workouts and I hate going after work.
So to be able to do that, like I would,
I would shave, so I would dedicate so much of
my salary if they said you don't get to do

(57:45):
that anymore to being able to maintain that because it
is worth its weight. And I don't know whatever the
most valuable commodity is, but it's above gold.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
I hate working out, and the more I hate working out,
I'll be honest with you. I like competing. I hate
exercising for the sake of exercise. But I'm also not
twenty five anymore. And so we work out three every
day because we wake up at three in the morning,
and three is kind of the break between the first
part of the day and then when we get back
into it at night.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
And so yeah, it's we're pretty fortunate to be able.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
And d he's been killing it.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Our other friend as a singer songwriter, named Ben Rector
also works out with this and it's just three dorky
white You're not.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
White, are you?

Speaker 6 (58:21):
No?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
But I mean pretty much.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
You know, going hard for the trainer and we do
pretty good. Have you worked out in Arkansas's weight room?
Not worked out? Have been there a bunch but never
worked out. I never want the players to feel bad
about themselves.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
That's also the holiday spirit. The other biggest blessing is
it we're on the road. Yeah, I bet, and we
get to go. Most places we go will open their
weight room to us. That is like five year old
version of me. I mean five years ago version of me.
If you told me, hey, Bama, Georgia, Penn State, Arkansas
have been in there and worked out, They're just going
to say, hey, we got time for you. Here's a

(58:54):
two hour spot on Friday. Come work out that.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Even I'm in there taking video of myself and I
never do.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Thisannessey Camp we started doing a show called Too Much Access.
We're like sixteen episodes in where we've traveled everywhere from TCU, Cincinnati,
Kansas State and.

Speaker 6 (59:09):
So we go and you see that grass hill in
Kansas State's right, we ran it. So and they give
us our strength coaches and they'll run us through workouts.
You know, we're in the middle of basketball now, and
who are working with NBA Acey? Who is the coach
Wichitol State?

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Oh Quincy Acy? Yeah? Sorry, yeah, so you say said, like,
maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
We got their boys.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
So like he's running us through ball handling drills. It
literally was fantasy camp. Is my dad to go fantasy camp?
And so we need to get in full pads in
football and then talk to hanging out with the coach
or go in the gym and they give it to
us for an hour with the coach and do stupid stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
And here's here's what's awesome. Those strength coaches.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
When I go in there, they're trying to ask me
questions and I'm like, stop, I'm the one who needs
to pepper you.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Well.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
First off, we're not on camera here, and secondly, even
if we were, I am so much more fascinating in
what you do than you should ever be in what
I do.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
That's like a dream world to be able to hop into.
It's super cool what you've.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Been able to do, man, what you've built, like really
just like I recognize it. It's awesome to see you
really thriving, and you're you're just generally existing in the
college football space, which is hard to generally do anything
because there are ten thousand people trying to exist. So
congratulations and all your success.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Well coming from you especially, I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
When you were coming to yet and you live in town,
live like five minutes away.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Really, how long have you lived in Nashville?

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
January twenty twenty, So okay, right right at the COVID,
right at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yeah, nice, that's a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
No, it wasn't had anything for Joshua Goes.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
No, just just Josh You're you're so inspiring, like you've
inspired me just this whole time to possibly start my
own show pretty soon and just go on the limbit
Wait Cowboys Nation, you know something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah, that's good. They need they need some coverage out
on tap market. That's an interesting inspiration.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
I don't know if there's no way I'm alone, everyone
listening right now is thinking the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
So thanks Josh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
You guys follow at Late Kick.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Josh and we talked about the show earlier and we
posted it up in our podcast page.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
So Josh, Thanksboudy appreciate it. I appreciate you having me here.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Hey, let's go through these games real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
I know it's Tuesday, we're recording this, but let's go
to the games, and if you want to make a
note or say anything, go for it. Patriot's twenty one
Steelers eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Here's my note. Patriots don't need to win and stop?
Yeah right now, thank god, we're still the second pick.
What's wrong with you? Guys? Just stop?

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
What about we.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Beat the Steelers? We're good? All right? Calm down.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
The fact that whenever Zach Bailey's abbey came in and
went over to his offensive coordinator he was teaching the
head coach, Yeah, bill O Brian Gay in Alabama. Yeah,
went over and hugged him, and then he saw Belichick
and he gave him a thumbs up hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
And then it was like give him a half handshake.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
It was like, yes, sir, yes, yeah, he's like, good game, sir, hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Patriot's got to stop winning them. I know. Leave mac joneson, yeah,
tell them call him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Okay, did you like Zeke running the ball?

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
He looked great overall, I mean catching the ball, running
the ball, Yeah, he looked great.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Bucks twenty nine, Falcons twenty five. Baker leads the Bucks
on a big game winning touchdown or the Baker's Show,
Big Baker's Show. I told you, I'll sleep on the Bucks.
Somebody's got to make it. The Saints, the Bucks of
the Falcons, somebody's got to make it. Our morning show
has the Saints.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Of the future.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Man, if they make the playoffs, though, what there's no shot.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
So there is a shot. They're tied for first place.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, and the worst division ever.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Yeah, but I thought you meant to make the playoffs.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean to win it.
That's not our bat, I know it. But you can
always hedge out. If you can just win out playoff
game or something you probably hedge out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Okay, okay, we'll talk about that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Bears twenty eight, Lions thirteen lines often struggle, but man
fields look good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Do you still get Caleb? Yeah, yeah you do too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Bengals beat the Colts, Browning and Tuner sit about past yards.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Bengals pulled away. Hey, look pretty good, and they do it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
They got a pretty I think they have a pretty
easy schedule the rest of the year if I feel
like some of their last games are winnable.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Games Vikings, Steelers, Chiefs, and Browns, so they can definitely
win the next two.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
They can go. I think they can go to and two,
maybe three and one.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
Yeah, are they still investigating the injury report on bro
they closed it up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Of course they're going to close it out because they don't. Yeah,
they have would not be looking not look good. Browns
beat the Jags. Joe Flacco is that dude? Joe Flacco
is who I would have picked in our league, our
bowl game. Yeah, he's playing with the freaking Browns. Now,
he can't move over the crab, but he was. He
looks solid. He looks exactly like what you think the
best version of film would look like. Now and he

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just gets the ball the people and they wouldn't get
Their defense is so good. You just need somebody in
there to make to not screw up and occasionally make
a pass.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
And he does that. Blacko had three hundred yards and
three touchdowns and then you gotta put back on the
practice squad. Yeah, just for Ross Ross. Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Saints twenty eight, Panthers six. You know, we'll move on.
Jets whooped the Texans, but Strout left with a concussion
and Zach Wilson at three hundred yards. The whole game
was bizarre. It was probably Zach Wilson's best looking game. Yeah,
I watched a lot of it. I was like, dang,
it looks it looks pretty good. Ravens beat the Rams.
The Rams are pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
That was a great game. Yeap, the Rams are pretty good.
That was fun to watch. Ravens went get this. I
went to the bathroom real quick during that punt.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
So there was a walking so yeah, So it goes
into overtime and the Rams are gonna punt over to
the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I'm like, I'm single peal quick because it's punt.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
I don't know what's gonna happen on the punt freaking
come back games games over. Oh no, obviously I got
to watch it in replay seventy four times. Not the
same at all. Vikings and Raiders. Worst game I've ever
seen in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
They were talking during.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
The game about how it was probably gonna be the
first game ever going to overtime, a zero zero that
had never happened before. And finally the Vikings had a
field goal in the four to quarter to win the game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Is terrible. What a terrible game.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
And I don't know, how does somebody, like, how does
a quarterback come on on the scene. You already have
all the scouting on him and he's played a ton
of now he played Arizona Raiders, play the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Who are you talking about, Dobbs?

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, he's playing with everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
But how does he suck so bad so quickly after
not sucking.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Like two games?

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Yeah, but it's because it's not he didn't like show
up from Japan. They had all the scouting on him
for the first couple of a few games. Maybe that
first game did expect him to play.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
I don't know, man like Kevin O'Connell. Guy, I don't know.
Forty nine ers. The game wasn't as close as the
score is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Forty nine ers twenty eight Seahawks sixteen pretty at three
hundred and sixty eight passing yards.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
I should have bet him for MVP.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
No, you're good right where you're at.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Bill's beat the Chiefs. That Chiefs Chiefs filed. He was
so stupid. He is so stupid. Which one are you
annoyed by the mahomes whining? Though?

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
I like it because he doesn't ever do that. He
never whins. He never shows a motion when he slammed
his helmet. I don't even who I was watching. I
feel like he's just breaking down because it's happening every game.
He's been so con rolled and press conferences and he's like,
we have to do better.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
I have to do better.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
And then finally he is mad at the ref, but
really he is mad at all his receivers from yeah
that last sure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Yeah eight games. And then he went to Josh Allen
said it too, and Josh was like, well, what do
you want me to do?

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
Josh just tapped him on the shoulder. Sorry, sorry, man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Frustration just bubbled over. I liked it. Uh, Broncos beat
the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Listen, I've been telling you guys, and I don't think
I'm right, but I've been telling you guys, Herbert's just
didn't He didn't win games.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Everybody annoints him top three quarterback, top four quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Hasn't done crap. Now, I don't know if Stale even
called an offensive player, just says, you, guys, figured out,
I'm gonna call defense. But Herbert left with a fracture finger.
But they lost again. They lost again the shirt finger
on his throwing hand.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
And the Broncos won again. That's like five of six
or six of seven. I believe what it is. Yeah,
that's awesome. Yeah, and they're right behind the Chiefs. Now
one game now, I'm rooting for the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
One year ago to they were like, he's such a douche.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Russell Wilson, such a dude, Let's go Russ.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah, let's ride.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Right Cowboys with the Eagles. That got two hundred seventy
yards two touchdowns, and it's just I mean, how about
the turnover. It wasn't really a game, I mean, was it?
Did you ever feel?

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
No? No?

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
It really no, I never felt that there was one
when the Eagles scored, you know, when they was like,
oh we might have a game here now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
That was the closest.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
It got three fumbled. It was over Hurts in the
first half.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Oh dude, Hurts fumbled, DeVante Smith fumbled and A J.
Brown FuMB. I mean it was just I don't know.
Everything was just going the Cowboys way, which was just fantastic.
And then our kicker, dude, is just unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Unbelievable, and our promises where two people survive. So Reid
had the Chiefs minus two and a half versus the
Bills that did not win. Reid had the Saints minus
five versus the Panthers that did win.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Oh, good job, Reid.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Yeah, and he had Navy plus three. Person's Army, oh
the Army Navy game that did not win read with
one correct. Eddie had the Texans minus five and a
half at the Jets that did not win.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
I did not win.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
You had the other side of the Army Navy that one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Let's go baby.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
You had the Cowboys minus three versus Eagles that one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Ow wow wow, I can smell that money from here.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
And Kevin, you had the Seahawks plus ten and a
half to forty nine ers that did not win. Nope,
you had the Broncos plus two and a half at
the Chargers that won big time, sir. And you had
the Rams plus seven at the Ravens you win again
by one boy, Eddie and Kevin going to the final round.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Oh, you're going down.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I'm not the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Okay, not the Eagles, Kevin, I'm not the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Take all the money? All right, Well that's a good show.
Anything else you guys want to say, Shorey? Oh yeah,
seven hundred million, but all on the very backhand so
they can buy other players too. Yeah, and then it's
a great strategy unless you're playing them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Even when he starts getting paid all the big money,
if he's not living in California, then he doesn't have
to get tax and council.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Pretty smart, pretty smart.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
I was talking to my wife about this, and she said,
what if the world ended though, or what if the
economy crush? What if the Dodgers, like a clare bankrupt,
Like what I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
If they declared bankrupt?

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
That's a problem, you know, it's like that whole bat.
It would be a problem anyway, because if he signs
a ten year deal and they declared bankruptcy in four years.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
He's not gonna pay the other six anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Yeah, but at least he gets the seventy seventy seventy You're.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Right, but he's betting that they don't based on historical
data and even economic collapse two thousand and eight, and
still the Dodgers are okay, and that if he moved
out of California, which I wear the second I don't
play for them, Hm, he'll probably make eighty ninety million
dollars extra.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Oh my goodness, what is the best?

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
Okay, so he's probably calculating, Laura like, and I'm sure
it's all part of the deal, but what's the least.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
I can get that I want to live on?

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
You know what I mean as a superstar, as the
highest paid athlete, Like, what is the most I could
I can get out of it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
He decided what how much did he get in a year?

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Basically seven hundred Oh no, no year, two million, two million
to two Yeah, which that's a lot of money. No,
it's not not to him. He has plays tons of money.
He already has limp you know, limitless pockets.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
That's not even off the field stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Yeah, no, yeah, he's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
We're going to market him like crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
He can't spend all the money that he's going to
be getting and already has. It's like Jay Leno, he
has so much money that he'd never spent a dollar
of his Tonight show money salary money. Ye had never
just put it away. He only spent his touring money
because he made so much touring. Still, dang, and I
want to have a different level. I want to have
those conversations. The Lakers won the nd season tournament. Good

(01:11:45):
for them, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
I'm glad they won their championship.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
They did, and as we compare Lebron and MJ. MJ
never won a freaking mid season tournament.

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
They didn't have one who cares, but they didn't didn't have.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Hey do you guys have that in two K?

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
No? No, I sure don't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Eddie hasn't played a single game, bro, I'm still hacked.
All you have to do is call I did. And
how quick was that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
It's been like a week. It's like eight minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Its been more than a week.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
No, it's it's all. It's been over a month's been
over like he.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Keeps saying I've been blocked out me.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
Honestly, it's a little refreshing, man, not to like come
home and be like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Oh, I gotta play a game.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
But you don't have to do what I do. I
don't play every day at all, but sometimes if I
get any time, I'll play a couple at a time,
or a middle of the night if I wake up I
can't sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
I'll play the rout.

Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
You're getting up at like two in the morning, I.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
Know, but that's I just I've played my basketball games
times whenever I just have oddly extra time, which I
don't very often, but I save it for that, like
like super Dessert.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
I do enjoy playing the video game. I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
But since I've been away from it for about a
month or whatever, like it's been like pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Well, then bail out. No no, no, I'll kick you out tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Relax.

Speaker 6 (01:12:55):
Here's the thing, Kevin. I fund the league like people
play it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
I fund it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
I give prize money out for people that are dedicated players.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
And Eddie didn't have the respect of the league to
get in there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
I got hacked, man. That's not by respect.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
You got to make a phone call called, make a
phone call today?

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Are you going to account? I still got the game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
By the way, Jane Daniels won the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I had no money for.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
You because you bet Yeah, and his third right, you
bet next? Yeah, Marvin Marvin Harris Junior finished fourth. Yeah,
so well, it is what it is. I just want
to say thanks aging to Josh Pat.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
That was really a good conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
I like that dude.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
That's rip man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Yeah, he's a pretty muscular guy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
We talked about that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Read. Is that the hat must signed? What are you
talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Is that the hat thought you were given to your buddy?

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
No, it is, it's it's signatures right there. This is dude.
The plot thickens this dude.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
It wasn't for your you make it out to my
buddy ride.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Yeah, how do you spell that? Ri I d I
switched it, Guys, y'all didn't notice that I was wearing
a different hat until like five minutes ago. No one
even pays attention to me. Guys. Oh no, he's the
youngest child. He's the youngest child. I'm not loved.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Follow us at twenty five whistles, Thank you, goodbye, everybody'll
not notice it.

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