After Shane Gillis got a lot of backlash for his opening monologue at the ESPYs on Wednesday night, Bobby said he loved it! He thinks people are being too sensitive, played some of his favorite jokes from the night, and even did a trial run of his own jokes for his Opry performance this weekend. Plus, Stewart Mandel from The Athletic joined Bobby to talk about Nick Saban's next coaching spot, expectations for Bill Belichick, and more! And Kickoff Kevin admits he was wrong about his Red Sox... now he asks the guys for permission to watch his favorite team again.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Whel Welcome to the show, Eddie body Whistle. I want
to start with Shane Gillis's SP's monologue, which he was
getting roasted pretty hard by like traditional media. It was
awesome if you were a sports fan and you like comedy.
It was awesome. Because people in the room weren't comfortable
doesn't mean it wasn't hilarious. People in the room were
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not comfortable at first because he went hard.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It was a plus. It was so good. He also
wasn't mean. He roasted, but he wasn't mean. He didn't
punch down. He was perfect for it. And I was
so irritated watching some of the reviews, like audience doesn't
laugh during Shane Gillis's SPI monologue because the audience was
scared they were next. The audience was like, oh God,
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hope he doesn't come to me. It was perfect. He
was the perfect guy to do it. I'm going to
play some of the jokes so why don't we go
with the clip one? This is the show? Hey, I
don't want to run the jokes, so go ahead of
Mike show.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Hey, Otani couldn't make it tonight, man, I hope his
interpreter didn't bet that he was going to be here show.
Hey is a once in a generation talent. No one's
been able to do what he does at so many positions. Pitcher,
hitter and Bookie. Hey, Bookie is what Bill Belichick reads
to his girlfriend before bedtime. Sugar Ray Leonards here, Ell, yeah,
(01:43):
Sugar Ray, you're the man. But what in ten years?
Jake Paul is going to try to knock you.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Out so easy?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And this is near the end, So the crowd's kind
of gotten into it at this point, and I'm just
kind of playing some in order of why. So this
one is the one that people were upset. Some people
were upset about. This is the Caitlyn Clark joke, the
waffle house joke. It was super funny, unless your little
butt gets hurt at anything. Go ahead, Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
She and I have a lot in common.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We're both whites from the Midwest who have nailed a
bunch of threes. All Right, there you go, light up
a little. This is not serious. We'll see about this one.
When Kaitlyn Clark retires from the w NBA, she's going
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to work at a waffle house so she can continue
doing what she loves most, fist fighting. Black women.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Were hard on that one.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's so funny. Okay, we the three the threes is awesome. Dude, Yeah,
Nail in the threes my favorite joke, and I'll go
ahead and get to it now. Doe number seven. This
is my favorite of the entire night, and I think
people were confused a little while it happened, which is
part of the joke.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Four time w NBA All Star Britney Hicks is here.
Give it up for Brittany, everybody, I'm I'm joking around.
That's my friend's wife. I knew, none of you knew
w NBA players.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
You clap for that?
Speaker 6 (03:23):
So good?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's my very joking night. The crowd like, yep, yeah,
Brittany Hicks.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I mean I wasn't even clapping Brinny Hicks.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Four time All Star honor she's here.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's so funny. So let's do the clip four alien joke.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Joe Rogan actually wanted me to be here to host
this award show so that I could capture Adam Silver
because Joe thinks he's an alien. And Donald Trump wanted
to be wanted me to be here to capture Juan
Soto for the same.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Reason he got Boodle.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Now it's going hard. I'm telling you, it was perfect. Yeah,
it was pissing off a little group. A little bit
of the group was like, I don't know if I
just laugh because camera's on me, and the other groups
just like dying laughing, and that was shifting throughout the
whole crowd gohing. Hit the next one.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Donald Trump wants to stage a UFC fight on the
White House lawn. The last time he staged a fight
in DC. Mike Pen's almost died.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
The crowd down and they were like, that's a good one,
the excellent one. More. Actually, there was supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
An Epstein joke here, but as it got deleted, must
have probably deleted itself, right, probably never existed. Actually, let's
move on as a country and ignore that the crushed.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
If you get a minute like ten, go watch the
entire monologue on TikTok and you've heard a lot of
the jokes is great. Couldn't have done better because there
were enough uncomfortable people, And when you have that, you
can't judge how good or bad it is based on
the reaction of the crowd, because at the beginning of
that it would just huh.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
And you're so right with cameras there, you don't want
to react.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And there were celebrities that wouldn't laugh, or you would
see them trying not to laugh because they knew the
cameras were right on them. Because what happens when you're
at an award show. You know where the cameras are,
because the cameraman has a camera on his shoulder and
he gets right and freak in front of you.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah, they don't zoom there, No, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
From the corner. You know, at any point they're probably
gonna show your face, because it's happened when I've been
these award shows. If they're gonna put me on or
somebody next to me, they'll put the camera right on
the shoulder and be right and you're like, oh God,
I don't know what to do. Have a face. Oh,
that joke's offensive, but it's really funny. What do I do?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And then you look like a bad guy. Yes, yeah,
I think Lamar's head was down at one point that
the camera on him.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
His head was.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, he did a joke about Shuar Sanders did a
whole thing where he was first. It was like, ah,
that's that's not at nepotism because he went thirteen to
twelve and almost on the Alamobowl. That's why Jersey was retired.
And Lamar's like, oh yeah, yeah, He's like, it's Jersey's retired,
that's not nepotism. Look at the look at the stats.
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He was thirteen to twelve and almost on the Alamobile. Yeah,
it was good. Oh, I do want to play the
clip of Shack threatening RG three. Good, he takes the
sunglasses off too.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
It does man looks on a camera. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Shaq was on a podcast recently and threatened to beat
up RG three because RG three keeps coming to Angel Reese.
But mostly it was about that retweet of the graphic
that somebody did and really really really poor taste of
Angel Reese. And RG three didn't have to retweet that
and make the comment. He really didn't. Yeah, And so
Shaq says this on at Gillian bow on Twitter's page
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here you go.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Oh, speaking of man RG three tweeting another monkey post
about my girl Angeury, some punch in your face. Okay,
it's enough. I don't usually do stuff like this, but
just stop it, bro, you got your job, you got
your podcast. Leave my angelries alone. I'm the one calling
her and telling her not to respond. Stop it. That's
the last time.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, I wouldn't watch coming after me. No, I'm scared
he wouldn't catch me if I'm MARGI three. But if
he does, correct, if he does, that's trouble. We had
the All Star Game a couple of nights ago, and
I fell asleep and stopped watching after like the first inning,
and we came in and I had seen that they
did the swing off at the end. I loved it awesome.
(07:31):
I didn't watch it live. I would never watch anything
that late live on a weeknight because unless it's Arkansas playing,
because I gotta I gotta go to bed. But that
was really cool. I wish they would do that in
major league games instead of bending.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Oh, that'd be amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
What was bizarre to me? And again I missed it live,
so I'm not gonna act like I was so die
hard and I was up watching having these thoughts. I
watched it all on clips the next day. I'm like, oh,
this is super cool. It's basically home run derby at
the end of the game, and that what a fun
way because I said to Eddie it was like penalty
kicks in soccer, which I think is the best part
of a soccer match. Penalty kicks because they don't score
any goals, we can at least get some goal scored.
(08:05):
And I thought that was super cool, and that would
be super cool if they implemented that in like the
first half of the regular season, because they're gonna be like, well,
we can't do this in meaningful games, right, fine, that
makes sense. They do take the runner off second base
in the playoffs for extra innings, and people were way
against that in extra innings at first. But if you
just play extra innings with nobody on those stupid games
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go seventeen eighteen, nineteen innings, it's crazy to do something
and baseball's already slow. And thought I was boring, So
I love for the first half of the year if
they would do that swing off it was so cool. Yeah. Secondly,
and now I think everybody knows, but people were going
where's Otani? Where's Judge? Why aren't they the ones hitting
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the balls? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Because they go They go to the managers, right, like
all right, American League, here's your manager of Boone, Like
who are you gonna have hitting? And it's like name
three people? Like who?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Right?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Like you have Aaron Judge? Like who?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
They're not there? They went home. I never knew they
went home in the middle of the game.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Wild.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
This is how I found out that the players leave
in the middle of the game. Unless you may be
the MVP, then you stay. But other than you just
go home.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Some dudes, like when the locker room changed their clothes
and they were like in regular street clothes, came out
and watched the game. I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
But if the one who would it have been to
see them in street clothes? Bomb and ball? They call
them from the bleachers sick, I propose, because again, baseball
is not a sport that makes big changes or any
change quick. But they are a sport now that starts
to see young people don't care as much as they
used to. And you're also seeing the Savannah Bananas sell
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out like crazy, impossible to get tickets. So what are
we going to do to grow baseball, because we are
seeing that baseball can be grown if done right. And
I think one of the really cool things to do
would be to make this I'm not going to say
the whole season. I guess the playoffs. Traditionalists will have
a freaking fit the first half of the season leading
up to the All Star Game. Any game going into
extra innings, you do the freaking swing.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Off, yeah, awesome. And then even as a fan you're like,
because if it goes to extras, You're like, I'm out
of here. I'm not gonna stick around. Who knows how
long this is gonna lie. And how they did it too,
with like you get three swings. It's awesome, so cool.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
What was also cool too, is that did you watch
it live?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I did, well. I had money on it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh you bet it had.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
In the American League. So when they came back, I'm
staying up to watch this thing. What was really cool though,
were the pitch reviews.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So I was going to bring that up next, So
they they did it before the season started, so in
uh spring training, and so the A B S system
Yeah whatever, that system abs challenge system. I would love
for that to be a permanent part of the game,
but not with noamp because that just looks weird if
there's just a catcher and a batter and.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Somebody has to get hit by the ball.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I think eventually whatever robot ump I think being able
to challenge is great, especially with money now being bet
And I'm not the first person to say, now that
money's being bet on games, you need to get it right.
When you can legally allow betting, you need to make
sure the call is right. And that's what happened. It
was so smooth, Buttom the first inning I actually saw
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it being used because it was like the first inning
of the game. Pretty cool. Yeah, there was even a
challenge on a call.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
There was one where it was just a sliver of
a hit of a strike, like I mean, dude, it
barely touched it about, Like that's legit, it's real. You
can't argue it.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I think umpires are needed. I like humans. I'm pro human.
By the way, wait better now, it can't be any
more pro human than me. But I do think balls
and strikes for sure needs to be able to be
reviewed because everything else can be reviewed. And if we
want to do it the first half of the year, great,
because we've done it in the spring training, we do
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it in the All Star Game. Let's just see how
it goes for the first half of the year. Actually
make it in some games that matter.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yeah, I feel like the umps. You know, I would
not speaking for every umpire out there, but I feel
like they like to be right.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You know, they got a little bit of power. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Some have big egos. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I think it's even ego aside. I think it kind
of sucks if you're wrong anyway, even if you're not
a big ego person, like your job is to get
it right. Let's say take balls and strikes out of it.
Let's say tag at second, Oh all right, we want
to review, and you go and review. You're just praying,
oh my god, I hope I'm right, and you were
so animated to when you're out of that, and then
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they come back and they're like, overturn the call. You know,
that's even if your ego is not big, even if
you're not the guy that is loud and large, you're like, oh,
now I have to go admit in front of everybody
that I was.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Wrong at my job. And they get graded after every game. Yeah,
like the MLB grades them and sees who does the best,
who's most accurate, So that would suck.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
That would suck a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I'm all. I want to say it again. I'm
pro human. You can't be any more pro human than me.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Thank goodness, dude, Yeah, glad you are so.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But I think the umpires serve a purpose behind on plate,
just not to have full of thought already of balls
and strikes. They can call balls and strikes, but I
think you should be able to challenge.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And we got to have coaches be tossed. Still, that's fun,
that's great.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
My favorite are the clips when the coach like, just
throw me out. I'm gonna kick some dirt, John, just
kick me out here. I really need to do a
scene here. High see for dinner later on. Right. They'll
walk out in their mouths covered at first a little bit,
so no one can read their lips of job boy
can't read their left everybody. I was, alright, you just
get me arguing, you mother out of here. So I
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did think the game was fun because they got to
wear their old universe, their normal uniforms. Yea, they haven't
done that in like six or seven years. So it hasn't.
But when we were kids, it's all they did. It
wore the original uniforms and it was so cool to
see your guys on your team make the All Star team.
So the All Star Game is great, Like baseball is
doing a pretty good job at trying to smell like
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move forward a bit instead of just staying the same,
which was making them fall back. Pitch clock great.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I like, eliminate the shift they did they did with
the defense.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Although you know what the shift. The shift is kind
of a strategic movie of all that. I'm pro human.
I'd like to I didn't really hate the shift. I
didn't just be a better hitter.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
And I don't understand like everyone's moved to the right.
You're a wide open on the left. Can't you just like,
come on, just trimp the ball that.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Way a little bit, That's what I'm saying, Like, learn
learn to hit opposite field. You're pro, you know you're
one of the greatest hitters in America, or you wouldn't
be in the major leagues. Maybe learn how to hit
the opposite film wide open over there, swing a fraction
of a second late. That's all you gotta do.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Maybe it's harder than we think. But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Probably British open keeping up with it when we do
the show. I don't keep up with it at all.
I guess you do.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
We do the show, it's on, and you know we
got a break.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I look over, I'm talking about the morning show. This
morning started this morning.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, I mean dude, when Yeah, I mean by the time,
like we're rolling on the show, I think the first
group's already done. It's I don't know what how early
it is over there, but it's crazy that half of
the tournament or the day round is pretty much done
when America is starting to roll out of bed.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, it's like football, I know London, but for a
I guess I mean time zones.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You know, I've heard of them. Yeah, but Sundays is
a little different, right, They do roll it out a
little later, like, but it's probably on Sunday, the final round.
It'll probably start at nine am for most most of us.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
There's also a cut, yeah, unless players, so you don't
have to cram everybody on as early.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
But I'm not I haven't watched any of it, but
I've I hear that, Like the weather.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Is really bad, awesome, That's how I want that. I
want that to be so difficult. I want it to
be like the US Open, where they rough is like
ten feet tall. I want to be cornstalks. And then
I want this the weather to be so bad. It's
like when you're playing Tiger Woods you have an adjust
the arrow because when seven miles an hours, I want
them adjusting their arrows live. Yeah, I want it to
be raining. Yeah, I want the weather to just kick
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them right in the balls.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Roy's first two t shots shank them.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
He was plus seven fifty. He was a favorite to
win it. Where is he now? Not sure? And again
when you hear this, the day one, maybe day even
day two will be over.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
But did you bet?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I didn't?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Do you bet pre round? Ever?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Like for these majors, almost never.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
That's the best odds, man, I know, it's like just
to throw a dart in the like.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Oh yeah, best odds because there so many.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But he's under right now.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So who's leading as of right now?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Good luck? Okay, good luck?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Ht Lee and Fitzpatrick can't win it on day one,
can lose it on day one though?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Right, So I usually bet it on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Do you kind of look at who's leading on Saturday,
and then.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yes, And I never bet the person leading because usually
the odds aren't good. But I'll bet somebody like fifth
or sixth, seventh, or a no name like eleventh or twelfth.
That's it because I can get pretty good odds and
they have consistently played well the last weekend or they
wouldn't be famous and successful. So that's usually what I
look at.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Yeah. Same like, I'll wake up on Sunday, Sunday mornings
before the last round starts, and I'll look at the
leader board and if like Scheffler's up by like ten,
not touching it, you know, like that's that's over. But
if you know, like he said, Morgen Schornsten is leading first.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He felt a little racist toward the muppet chef, right, yeah,
sweetest chef.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
There's another guy named Smith, you know. Second, I'm going
with a big name at like third or fourth. Always
let's take a break.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We'll come back and just a little bit and talk
with Stuart Mandel, who is the editor in chief of
The Athletic. We're gonna talk college football and nil and
we'll get into the weeds with that. Give us a
second we'll come back here. Supposedly, drinking Korean pair juice
before drinking alcohol results in a twenty percent improvement in
hangover symptoms. I don't drink, so I've never had the
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history of trying to find the hangover cure. What do
you find to be the best for a hangover, Eddie?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
So if you want to be proactive, this is what
I've learned through all my ears of drinking. Have one
drink of alcohol, one drink of water, one drink of alcohol,
one drink of water, and you will get rid of
that hangover. You won't even have the hangover. However, if
you don't do that, which I get party situations, you're
not thinking of getting water the next day. Rob it, headaches,
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it's hurting, you feel like death in your bed. Manudo
man Go to a Mexican restaurant on Sundays and ask
for manudal.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
If a random white person walks in, it's never been
in the Mexican restaurant by themselves, looking a little torn
and tattered, well they know why they're asking from a newdo.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Of course, they won't even ask, like what you want?
I know what you can mean?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Long night, Long Night, Kevin you're from a different part
of the world, Yes, because I feel like.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Where you're from, dude, California.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Based on like the culture you grew up in here.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, that's rare.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean nobody in I was going to find some
menudo if you're in like South Texas, Arizona, Mexico.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah. I used to give my buddy a bunch of
crap Betty for drinking of water in between every single drink.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
So was that.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
We kind of kind of upset to hear you say that.
But I think you're just getting older and I'll be
there in a little bit older. Smarter, I know it is.
I agree, it is smarter for sure, but we never learned,
do we. I use Alka Seltzer.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think Alcoa.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Seltzer's the best. Like when it comes to hangovers, number
one is sleep. If you can get sleep, that's the
number one thing, and then you wake up Alca Seltzer,
which they actually have hangover pills. Now, I haven't even
tried it yet because they caught on. I think everybody
likes it and it does a trick so good. The
tablets you drop them in the water.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
We've heard of it.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Okay, just wait you're both looking at me.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Like, because I've never heard of alka seltzer as a
hangover cure.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
From a different part of the world.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Dude, that's what we do about.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
But when you say when you say like sleep though,
like do you mean like if you drink all night Friday,
Saturday's done? Like you're just in bed all day?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
No, like say you go to sleep at midnight, Like
if you can sleep till seven or eight? Money am, Yeah,
Like if you can get seven or eight hours of sleep,
but if you if I'm running on like four hours
of sleep, it's gonna be a rough one.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Why do you think And I had to look it
up because I don't know. I've never looked at the
because I've never needed the science. Why do you think
people get hangovers dehydration? Okay, that's that's both of you.
Guys went with that.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Heart because alcohol just sucks all that water out of you,
like yep, dries you up.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So that is a part of it, but not the
biggest part.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
My mom always said potassium.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Now I'm not the expert. I literally looked this up,
so I'm not going I can't believe you guys don't know.
I didn't know, like seriously.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
My mom would be like here, Miko, hear him banana.
You need potassium because you have a hangover.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So here is the answer from chat GPT. People get
hangovers because alcohol messes with your body and brain in
a bunch of ways at once. Here's a breakdown of
why you feel so awful. Sleep disruption. Even if you
pass out, alcohol messes up your sleep quality. You skip
ram sleep, and that leads to brain fog, fatigue, and moodiness.
So that's that's part of it. And what you're going
to see is it's a collection of things. It's a
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big stew. Okay, no, well, yes, you use a stewdent
fi a stew. I guess Ricky Martin. Next up, toxic byproducts.
As your liver breaks on allcohola produces a chemical called
m ace tall to hyde, which is even more toxic
than the alcohol itself. Your body eventually clears it, but
not before it makes you nauseous, sweat, and feel very bad. Next, dehydration.
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Alcohol is diuretic, which means it makes you pee more.
You lose fluids and electrolytes, which leads to symptoms like
dry mouth, headache, and dizziness. Your blood sugar drops. Alcohol
messes with your glucose levels. The crash and blood sugar
can make you weak, shaky, and angry. Two more, stomach irritation.
Alcohol increases stomach acid and irritates the lining of your stomach,
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which adds to nausea, vomiting, stomach pain. That's where the
vomiting comes in. And finally, just general inflammation. Alcohol triggers
an immune response that can make you feel achy, unfocused,
and just generally sick. A hangover as your body's way
of saying, you poison me a little bit and now
you're going to pay. But it's because of a whole
lot of different things happening body, not one single factor.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
So no potassium level, like mom says, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Not having the appropriate amount of potassium isn't able to
fight the toxic biput.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
It's not in your list over there.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I didn't make the list, I'm honest. But yes, so
there's a little education, dude.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
What's crazy? When you were reading that list, what stood
out was the like the time, the multiple times that
you go pee Like it's crazy. How as soon as
you start drinking you gotta pee, Like there's like you
break that seal right, like you have twenty gallons of
water in you.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
If you know you're gonna be in a crowd or
somewhere tough to get out to go to the bathroom,
you don't pound beers.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
And if you're not drinking and you have to pee,
you can hold it. Not a big deal. When you're
drinking and you have to pee, you cannot hold it.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Sometimes you just go.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, they do say again that Korean pair juice before
drinking alcohol. And if you're the guys like pull over
and you get some Korean pair juice, we get some,
you're probably gonna get made fun of. I'm gonna put
that out there.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Where do you get a Korean pe?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Korea? Obviously? Okay, I've mentioned this a couple of times
in different places. But we've been watching a show called
The Kingdom. Anybody watching it on Netflix? It is a
South Korean zombie show. It's good. It starts off a
little slow, but we put English subtitles and we make
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them speak English. But what's crazy is they actually speak
with really thick Korean accents, so they're speaking English. But there,
I would do an impression, but I don't want to
get I don't even feel like that's racist because I'm
just literally doing an impression. It's risk it's not risky,
and I'm pro human. I'm pro Korean South anyway, and so,
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but they do Korean accents and I thought to myself, well,
that's weird. They're doing really south. And then I thought
to myself, well, I've heard some guy with a Southern
accent overdubbing your Korean. Yeah, Marge, watch out for that.
I might think that would be weird. It's good. Episode
one's a little slow, but by the time it's only
six episodes for two seasons. By the time you get
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like three in, it's awesome. If you like zombie shows,
I think you'll really like it. If you're into like
swords and stuff. Yeah, what was a Tom Cruise movie
he did Mike where he was like sword fun Last Samurai?
H Yeah, I like you like that kind of fighting
and stuff, you'll like it.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Was that a good movie? Last Summa?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I don't know. I don't watch it. Pretty good movie,
it was, yeah, yeah, No, I don't know, okay, but
it's good. Kevin wants to admit he was wrong about
the Red Sox.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
It's take me a while to get here. I still
have not watched one single game since they traded Devers.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You're not though, no games.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I have not watched or will you?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You said no games for you?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So I was wrong. I was obviously wrong. They've won
ten in a row going into the All Star Break,
and ever.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Since Trump was there, they haven't lost. I know, Boston
Trump socks.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Exactly, exactly, and I've had the biggest fomo, like watching
little highlights, walk off home runs, team going crazy, everyone
having fun, the crowd's into it. My brother's texting me.
I'm like, leave me alone. And I have to say
I think I was wrong that they made the right
move trading Devers. Obviously, the clubhouse and the entire locker
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room is a better place. Players are playing better, the
team's playing better, and all of a sudden, now they're
in the playoffs. If it started today, that's freaking awesome.
So if I met him wrong, can I go back
to watch you you can?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You can do it?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Yeah, dude, it's your life.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, okay, thanks, guys. You don't know us anything. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I'm just sitting there, you know, I'm like, I want
you to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm pro human. I want you to do that perfect? Thanks, guys.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
An't that amazing though? That like a team really they
know what's right for them instead of the fans that
don't know anything about what's going on inside.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Says a cowboy, says a cowboys. Yeah, complains about everything. Yeah,
you do it like and you know what they should do.
You know how they should do it. Why didn't they
do this?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Have you seen Dak? He looks ripped and ready to go? Dude,
he should be. He looks good, healthy, healthy, He says,
he's ready to go. And I mean, I don't know
if he's just working out. He looks good. I don't
know I can throw the ball, but he looks good.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Are you watching him to the ball?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
No, No, there's just a picture he posted. Dang, dude,
he's been in the gym.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
What do you mean you don't know how he can
throw the ball.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
No, I don't know how he's throwing the ball. Oh okay, okay,
because I'm not seeing those clips.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I think you said, like physically, you don't know how
he can throw a ball.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
With all those muscles that jack. You know who else
looked good working out was Ben Simmons. He'd always posted
videos in the lab. Yeah, what do you mean, like
this is the year for Ben Simmons all the other years,
Let's forget about him.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Why are you comparing those two?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Just that the Internet would lead us to believe, based
on the images that we saw that Ben Simmons are
really going to turn it around this year.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Didn't quite happen?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, that's it. I'll come back and talk to Stuart Mandel.
We'll talk college football coming up next. All right, now,
we're going to go over and talk with Stuart Mandel,
who is the editor in chief for The Athletic. Go
to the Athletic dot com do read his articles. Also
does a podcast called The Audible. I really enjoy his writing.
And we're gonna talk about nil and we're going to
all the stuff that you may think is boring, we're
probably going to talk about here because I do not
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find it boring at all. You'm a massive college football fan.
So here he is follow him on Twitter at sl Mandel.
Here he is Stuart Mandel. Hey Stuart, big fan of
your work. Really appreciate the time.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I do want to start with this because I saw
you post the article just this morning, and it was
basically about collectives and how NIL now is going to
be coming through the school, except it's not really an
IL what's happening right now because I almost can't keep
up with it.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
It's very hard to keep up with.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
But you know, the House settlement got approved last month,
and so that allowed the colleges to go through with
this plan they had twofold. They can now share revenue
directly up to twenty point five million dollars the schools
can share with their athletes, but also they've set up
this clearinghouse nil GO that has to approve these outside
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deals and collectives have obviously dominated the NIL space for
the last few years. That's where athletes get most, if
not all, of their ANIL income. And the Commission came
out with a statement saying collectives don't serve a valid
business purpose, their deals are not going to get approved.
They were already prepared, the collectives are already prepared to
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have their deals more closely scrutinized for fair market value,
but this was kind of a step or two beyond that.
They're saying it doesn't matter what the compensation is or
even if it's for valid activities, autographs, and they pay
the athletes to do autograph signings or go period a
golf tournament or whatnot.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
They don't care.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
They think collectives are just a front for pay for
play and they're not going to approve the deals.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
But aren't they? And I say that as someone who
was a part of one, and so I've been involved
as someone who donated and worked with a collective and
now I do an as all money and deals with
athletes to actually do things because I know the new
rule is up to like six hundred bucks, etc. Have
to be reported up to six hundred bucks. But really,
weren't collectives exactly what you're saying they are?
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah, I think that's one of those things where it's
it's not even a secret at this point, right, everybody
knows that's the intention. And that's why this commission is
coming down and saying, you know, these are not valid
business Basically, they're saying it's not a valid business attempt
if you're paying an athlete to promote your product so
that the collective can make money to then give to
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the next wave of athletes. Right, it's not they don't
think that's legitimately for for goods and services for a
for profit company.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
But that doesn't mean it's it's gonna fly. The lawyers
for the.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
Playoffs in the House settlement as soon as that memo
went out wrote back and said, this is not part
of the settlement. You don't get to decide who is
or isn't a valid business, and if you don't retract that,
we're going to take it back to the judge. So
we're waiting to see if anything comes of that.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I guess my final question on this, and I am
very interested in it, is that don't you think eventually
this just ends with this collective bargaining agreement with the
players and the GM and the athletic directors, almost like
we see in pro sports, but not quite.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's what you hear a
lot in regards to this salary cap. Right Like in
the athletic directors and commissioners' eyes, this is a pro
sports model now, where there's a hard cap and you
can't go beyond it. But the people on the other
side that would say the differences in the NBA and
the NFL, they collectively bargained that cap, the athletes agreed
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to that cap. This was negotiated through a lawsuit settlement
that I'm guessing most of the athletes that weren't even
aware of, right So, I do think some form of
collective bargaining is coming at some point, whether that comes
through the courts, Congress, whatever that may be. But right
now we're kind of in that limbo state, I think,
where they're trying to kind of get away with both.
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There's a salary cap, but there's no union, there's no
collective bargaining.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
So let's just pivot over to college football specifically, where
does Nick Saban coach now?
Speaker 8 (30:56):
I mean, obviously that was the big hot story this
week at SEC media Days. I wouldn't necessarily assume that
that's going to be the case. I mean, he's going
to be seventy four by the time this next coaching
carousel comes up, and you know, he's not a fan
of nil and transfer portal and whatnot. So does he
really want to get back in and deal with that?
But certainly if he decides he is, and look, he's
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his guy's Bill Belichick, who's who's.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Basically doing the same move right now.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
Anybody with a coaching opening would be would obviously want him.
And so when you look at the schools that might
have a coaching opening this coming year. The one that
really stands out to me's Oklahoma if Brent Vnables doesn't
have a big year, because that kind of meets all
the Nick Saban checklist. It's a powerhouse program that you
can win national championships at, it's a huge, rabid fan base,
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and you're in a state where you're really the only
recruiting power. Right Oklahoma State sometimes gets recruits they want,
but not very often.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
The rumor was for a while that Nick Saban was
going to run whatever body was over the nil or
the portal. He was going to be like the King Dingleyam.
College football has that kind of passed by.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Now, you know, it's interesting that was never possible obviously
in the traditional model, but they've set up now. They
actually have this thing called the College Sports Commission, which
would seem to be right for a commissioner, but right
now they hired an executive from Major League Baseball to
oversee that. And look, Nick Saban's got a pretty cushy gig.
Now right you're on game day.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
You get to.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Still be part of college football, travel to games without
the headaches of having to deal with the actual issues
in college sports.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
If we talk about the college football playoffs and we
look at last year, Boise State gets a buy and
based on the system, that's exactly how it should have been.
Did you like how it was? Or are you for
a we're going to rank them as they are and
let them fall in as they are.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's where we're headed. I
think that that's already been changed.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
The whole thing about the CFP is that it was
devised before the Pac twelve fell apart. So the idea
that the four highest ranked conference champs would get the buys.
You figured those are going to be pretty highly ranked
teams because you'd be doing the four out of the
five power conferences. But now that's no longer the case,
and so last year it just so happened that bois
ended up finishing ahead of you know, the ACC champ, Clemson,
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which kind of got in at the last second. So
they've already changed that. This year it'll be the top
four seeds regardless of conference, and I think you can
assume those will probably be teams from the Big ten
at SEC.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
You think the Pac twelve will ever be a thing again?
They are adding new teams, which all Texas State just
went in. But do you think that'll be a We'll
go back to Power five.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
That'd be nice.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
But you know that if you look at the lineup
they have coming forward, right, you have Oregon State and
Washington State and then you have a bunch of Mountain
West schools, and so they're probably closer to the AAC.
In fact, they are closer to the AAC than the
Power conferences. My hope is that one day saner Heads
will prevail, even if it's not in football. Right, football
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doesn't involve that much travel. But I think the shame
of this what happened is these West Coast schools are
sending their basketball teams, their volleyball teams there, you name it,
teams all the way across the country to play matches,
and those aren't the things that are making the money.
I'm hoping saner Heads will prevail at some point and
you can separate West Coast football from West Coast to
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all the other sports and get Stanford and Cal and
USC and UCLA and the Arizona schools and the Oregon
Washington playing each other again like they should.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well, it's not unprecedented to have a school play football
without a conference like a Notre Dame and then play
basketball in a conference. I mean eventually, probably just logistically,
that would be where it falls. Are they doing anything
to actually make that happen yet or are we just
talking about it?
Speaker 8 (34:42):
It's not anything imminent because these TV contracts that the
conferences have are all in place for many years at
this point, I mean, including the accs, goes well into
the twenty thirties, So it seems like the lineups you
have now will be the lineups for the next at
least five to six years. But I think there'll be
another big shakeup the Big Ten contract comes up, I
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think in five years. Around that time, a couple of
the others do as well. So if you're looking at
a next big change to the structure of conferences, you
would look to that.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
You think Notre Dame joins a conference in football at all?
Speaker 8 (35:20):
They really have no reason to. The system is set
up well for them. Now we'll see what happens with
this expanded playoff that they're already talking about. If the
Big Ten has their way, most of those berths would
become automatic berths for the conferences and then if you're
Notre Dame, you have to look hard at that. But
as long as you have the current system where there's
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a lot of at large berths and now by the way,
they can host I mean sorry, they can get a bye, right.
They couldn't get it before when those were conference champs.
There's really nothing they would gain necessarily from joining a conference.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
If you were able to make rules regarding the transfer portal,
what rules would you implement.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
I actually, I think the NCAA had a really good
rule as of a few years ago, which is everybody
gets one exception where they can transfer and play right away.
If you want to transfer again after that, you have
to sit out a Here. The problem is, and this
is the case right with a lot of nca rules
now somebody sued in a court struck it down. Now
even unlimited transfers, which I don't think are good for anybody.
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I don't fault a player for wanting to start over
at a new opportunity.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
That's their decision, that's their life.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
But the idea that every player in the country is
a free agent every single season and doesn't there's nothing,
you know, really to discourage them from doing so, is bad.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
For the schools. It's bad.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
I think for the athletes who it's really hard to
develop in your career if you're playing for a new
coach and a new system every single year.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
You mentioned Bret Ventables at Oklahoma. You didn't say the
words hot seat, but they're looking for them to succeed.
I have family, they're massive Oklahoma fans, so I'm close
to that situation a bit. Who else are these high
profile coaches that need to win and now, you.
Speaker 8 (37:01):
Know, I think there's several in the SEC. Start with
hu Freeze. Auburn fans are notoriously not patient, and he's
had a rough couple of years, and some people think
they'll be a lot better this year. Some people see
it and go, you know, the quarterback that they got,
is he really that much better than the guy they
had before?
Speaker 6 (37:17):
So him, you.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
Know, billiy Napier won some people back at the end
of last year at Florida. But if they were to
start out bad again this year like they did last year,
you would I think you would start to hear that again.
And then you've got coaches who theoretically would be on
the hot seat, except they have these enormous buyouts Brian Kelly,
Lincoln Riley in particular, coaches that if they don't perform
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this well, perform well this year, the fans aren't.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Going to want him back.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
But is the school willing to pay fifty sixty even
seventy something million dollars to buy them out?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That's something a collective could do, right, Just buy out coaches.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Use the money on them instead.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, that's what I would say, Like, if you're so
passionate about you buy all the coaches.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
A and M set the precedent right right. Oil was
great at the time. They were able to pay seventy
five million to buy out Jimbo Fisher. I mean, the
crazy thing is that they agreed to these contracts in
the first place. When UFC hired Lincoln Riley, they gave
him a ten year contract and it's never been fully
made public it's private school, but believed to be eleven
million dollars a year fully guaranteed. There was absolutely no
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way to get out of this if he didn't do well.
I think they just assumed he would because he'd done
so well at Oklahoma and now they might be stuck
with him.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Do you think a bit because we saw this with
Deshaun Watson in Cleveland where they gave him all that money,
guaranteed money, and that really changed where owners now are going,
we're not doing that because we just saw one really
bad example of it, because he gets hurt, he has
all the trouble, he seems like a bad dude. So
they're not doing that at all. And now there's the
drama like where they conspiring behind the scenes to not
give anybody guaranteed contracts. Do you feel like these college coaches,
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what's happened to Texas A and M, what's happening now
at USC where they really can't get out of it.
Do you think these situations not being positive will affect
future contracts with coaches?
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Well, on the one hand, you know, all these schools
are facing a challenge. There's an extra twenty point five
million dollar budget item now to pay the players. You
got to cut back somewhere, so it would make sense. Okay,
we're gonna stop throwing money at these coaches. And yet
as soon as a school you know, has a coach
they really want to get, they go and do they
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do it anyway? I mean, bread Venables is a good example.
They gave him a big extension after his second season
when he really hadn't done much yet, and so he
went and had a bad third season. I still think
if it came to it, they would cut him loose
this year. But these schools that give It's one thing
if you're trying to steal a coach away from another
school and you have to make it worth his while.
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But what we see time and again is schools just
going ahead and giving him a big race.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Mike Norvell.
Speaker 8 (39:54):
After that great season two years ago, Floria State got
a new contract ten million dollars a year.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
They go out and they go two and ten. Last year.
They regret that big contract.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Now.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
So to your question, I mean, we'll see. We've yet
to see that trend change yet. Maybe it does now
because of the new variable with the revenue sharing.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
What do you think the expectation is for Bill Belichick?
Speaker 8 (40:20):
Yeah, that's a great question. Is the expectation different now
than it was when he was hired? Because when he
was hired, certainly a lot of proponents of the hire think, hey,
he's going to come in, he's going to flash his
Super Bowl rings.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Recruits are going to come running. They'll be very good.
Speaker 8 (40:36):
The way the offseason has gone the Jordan Hudson storyline.
I think of people A lot of people now are thinking,
was this really good idea? I think if they just
go to a Bowl game the first year and people
realize it takes a little time to turn around a program,
So the first year you kind of get some you
get a free pass, unless you go three and nine
and then everybody's going to say, what a disaster this is.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
You feel a little bit though, like people will have
less patience because you can turn a programmer on so fast,
because you can't actually just write checks.
Speaker 8 (41:02):
Well, I think you know, when I started covering the sport,
it was you need four years to turn it around.
Then it became three, and then it became two. I
don't think we're seeing the pressure yet to do it.
And I mean Deon Sanders is a great example. Right
first year was not great. People are saying, you know,
this is a disaster. Then they had a really good
season last year. But I do think that's the limit.
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Nobody wants two bad seasons in a row now because
of exactly what you said.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
You can.
Speaker 8 (41:30):
You can turn over your whole roster now through the portal,
and so you don't need three or four high school
classes to come in. You can turn it around really quickly.
First years are tough.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
For many reasons.
Speaker 8 (41:41):
You get a late start on recruiting, and it's just
you know, you're completely changing the culture.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Are the players going to buy in?
Speaker 5 (41:48):
So? You know?
Speaker 8 (41:49):
I think people still are at least reasonable enough to
realize it's going to take more than one year, but
not more than two years.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Final question for you. I was looking through the quarterbacks
and Drew Aller, Penn State or nuss Meyer or DJ
Lagway or Kate Klubnick who looked really good against Texas
until they end up losing that game. Like he went
down to Austin and played really well. Is an Austin
kid too? Like, there are a lot of really good quarterbacks. Who,
in your mind is your favorite for the Heisman? Way
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too early?
Speaker 8 (42:18):
Obviously everybody's gonna say arch Manning. The problem for arch
Manning is the expectations are so high that I feel
like if he just has a good season but not
an amazing season, people might turn on him. I do
like Kate clubness chances and here's why. I mean, first
of all, he's really good. I think it's snuck up
on people last year toward the end of the season.
How much better he got. Clemson is to me the
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class of the ACC. Maybe Miami's close, Probably not. If
they can beat LSU in that first game, he kind
of bolts to the front of the list, and then
I think stays there at least stays in the mix
most of the season. Obviously, Texas is preseason number one,
but again because expectations for arch Manning or so much
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higher than they are for Kate club Nick. I mean,
let's say they lose to Ohio State the first week
and everybody can say he's overrated.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
It was just his last name, you know.
Speaker 8 (43:08):
I think that's what he's That's the biggest hurdle for
him in terms of Heisman contention.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Stuart is the editor in chief for The Athletic and
also check us podcast out with Bruce Feldman called The
Audible wherever you get your podcasts. A big fan of
your work was reading your article this morning. Thank you,
Thank you for taking some time and talking with us.
Really hope you have a great day.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
Thanks Stuart, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
All Right, that's going to wrap it up for us today.
Thank you guys for being here. I will say that.
I went and I got my tooth fixed, and then
I was flossing and it broke off again.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Oh my good lady. Do you get your money back
for that?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
No, I'll just get another tooth put on.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
How hard do you floss?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
That's what my wife said. She's like, what are you doing?
You're going at it in there. I do use floss
or to use the picks both, and I floss probably
like five times a day. So because I do that,
I think I've probably warned my teeth down. Not only that.
When I first started making any sort of money where
I could save, I bought teeth. That was my first thing.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
I was like, a hobby.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (44:01):
What are you bude teeth for a hobby?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Likenmillion? You know, like I what's weird is when you
get teeth, they shave all your other teeth down, Like
that's how veneers work. They shave all your real teeth down.
And my teeth were messed up and they shave them
down and then they put the veneers over the top
of them. And so but I did that, and I
remember this is like ten years ago. The dentist was like, hey,
(44:24):
and like ten years you're gonna have to get these replaced,
like these are not forever, they're about they're worth about
ten years. They don't know what to say to people
to get boo jobs like these aren't forever, like you
have to get them fixed. And I remember thinking, well,
ten years will never come. Who cares about ten years?
I just neglected to do it. And so I think
part of it is my NonStop flossing, and part of
it is the teeth are getting a little older, and
(44:46):
some of them I've had replaces, I've cracked them. But
like this is as you can see, it's gone, but
it's really affected my feathers in my so all day long,
I've like struggled because you make sounds. Everybody knows this,
but you don't think about it until it's actually affecting
you where your tongue hits the top of your mouth
and your teeth.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
But my sounded great today.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
There were times where I was just I could feel it,
and I probably feel a little more. It's like when
you have like a little cut in your mouth or something.
It's the fucking duck.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Atsh who were the who? The team? Baseball team in.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Chicago's offer and thuck of that the coggle cul.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
None of the other one.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
The other one the Gogga white thun. So my Didnis
went on vacation though I know. I texted him he's awesome,
and I was like, hey, I'm a tooth, sorry about that.
I probably fast a little too early. I think he
actually said don't do it for a day or so.
You know me, I'm just didn't letting it rip there.
So I text him. I was like, hey, it doesn't hurt,
but I dude talks a little funny and so we'll
(45:41):
get a fixed next week. But so if I've sounded
a little weird or a little thing by the way
I said thucker and thuck of thatsh not a bad word. No,
there are people that will highlight sounds. This single sounds
from me doing years and years of shows and podcasts,
and they'll take it. Be like you said the for
it here, you said you don't cuss. First of all,
I don't have a problem with cursing. So even if
(46:03):
I did, I'm okay with it. But I didn't because
I don't.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
You really don't.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
I don't. I don't, even in the private privacy of
our own home like anything, are doing it. I don't
even in the privacy.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Of our own home together.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, the dark room, but I don't. I don't not
curse for you. I not curse for me. So if
I do decide to curse, who cares? I'm only not
doing it for me. I think cursing is hilarious if
you use the right way. I just had to stop
cursing seven years or so ago because I didn't want
to write cursing. I wanted to write cursive but not
cursing difference. So, speaking of writing, I wrote a bunch
(46:34):
of jokes. I'm doing the opera tomorrow night. It's just
risky to go into a bunch of jokes and you've
never done them before, all at once, and with the
crowd that isn't there to see you, because when people
go to the opry, they go to the opery to
see whomever shows up. It's not that they're there to
see somebody else specifically. Some of them are, some of
them aren't. Some are just there to see the brand.
(46:55):
And so I walk out on stage and I'm you know,
I have all these new jokes.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Oh no, you're taking some Gillis's jokes.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, So I have all these jokes like I wrote
a whole part of a set on being like doos
and dollerant.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Okay as relatable.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, because let me read you. Let me read you
a couple of these things. I don't care. I don't care.
I'm not touring, so I don't care if I even
run a joke. But one of the jokes is if
I really, if I say it exactly as, it's not
gonna play. So I talk about like being allergic to
dairy and being from the South is like being a cowboy.
(47:35):
I talk about it, I'm allergic to dairy, and then
I say, I need like my notes because I haven't
even practiced these and I'm gonna go up there to
do it tomorrow. How I'm lactose and tolerant. Being allergic
to cheese and being from the South, it's like being
a cowboy allergic to his horse. Like yeah, it's that
kind of vibe. And it was like I used to
take great pride in not being allergic to anything. Now
he just slice of pizza. My body shuts down like
it's filing for bankruptcy. So I do I wrote all
(47:56):
these jokes, right. I used to say no allergies like
it was a personality trade. Now I'm the one asking
if there's hidden gee's like it's a lactose ghost haunting
my enchiladas. So it's a lot of that type stuff.
But I never I just can't do a bunch of it.
I can only like pick one my best hope and
then pray it works, because if it doesn't, I got
to pivot out of all of it because I don't
(48:18):
feel as confident in the rest of them, and I
can't go You can't miss two or three in a row.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Do you go in with a backup plan if you
have the pivot.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Or my backup plan is to go to jokes I
know work and so if it doesn't work, because inevitably
when you do new jokes, some of them don't. Some
of them won't work. But it's not because the jokes
are about always. Sometimes it is. Mostly it's because you
didn't like pause at the right time. There's some wreplay,
maybe you stumbled or the crowd. It really is that.
But I did one where I was talking about fantasy
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Football's why I bring this up because my wife will
have her friends over and they will plan a night
where they talk with intention, like a purpose, like they
just are going to connec act like she'll have a
friend come over and they'll sit in a living in
for like two hours and talk about, you know, how
you're really doing. But if we do that, that's weird.
And so we have ways to do it. And I've talked
(49:09):
about this on the show, like I can't call up
Eddie be like hey man, Thursday, seven pm, want to
come over and feel some stuff, and then how good
that's a good one. Okay, good, thanks, And I'm like,
so instead we have to like sneak in emotions like
through a side door and we'll be like talking about
fantasy football and'll be like, hey man, I'll trade your
Travis Kelsey for Saquon Barkley. And also, my dad never
(49:31):
told me he was proud.
Speaker 9 (49:32):
Of me, so yes, right, it's true, And like I've
talked about that for a long time and even in
that way, but I've never written a joke about it.
But what's tricky about that is I'll be and I
would love to try to the operator because I'm not touring.
But if they don't laugh at that, I think it's
just because it's not a fantasy football group, because that's
(49:52):
a sports thing. If I'm like, I'll trade your Travis
Kelsey and Saquon Barkley also your dad ever hug you.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
You know, I think.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
If they don't get the kels in Saquon of it, yeah,
they're not gonna even appreciate the joke, and not even
that it's the greatest joke ever written. And the reason
I'm talking about this is the Shane Gilli stuff like
that's like super inspiring to see him go up and
people be mad at him and keep going. But also
I'm playing the operat this week, and so yeah that
I wrote. Any I can't do a whole new set
(50:19):
up there because I won't because I'll go up and
it'll just be a nightmare. I'll be forgetting stuff jokes
will miss. But I'm probably gonna throw in a couple
of new ones like that. You think I should the
fantsy football one or they won't get it.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
I like the Fantasy football one.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
I think there'll be plenty of guys in there that
I'll understand that.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, I have a joke that I probably won't do
because I don't think it will be received well. Or
I talk about how lactose intolerance, like I deserve a
handycap sticker. And then I go, you know what, because
I talk about it being covered by the eightya, but
I don't even I think that's too inside it. That's
the America's disabilityetah. I said, Okay, but if I don't
(50:56):
get a handy gap sticker, maybe I should just get
preferred parking at pizza places.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
You see what I'm saying, and you know the crowd there.
But all of that, all of this stuff, because I
have this, these are all the jokes I've written, right, Wow,
all of that jokes. I would have to go out
for like three months and do all them seventeen times
in order to feel what is exactly right?
Speaker 5 (51:19):
What's your time slot?
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Like?
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Do they tell you everybody has twelve minutes?
Speaker 5 (51:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Like everybody has twelve minutes a long time. But I
do have my guitar as well. And what I've done
in the past is I just take it up there
and I've played the before and never even played it.
Like I walked up with it. That's awesome, and I
just everything was working so right, and I never went
to the guitar because the jokes were just crushing, and
I think people were like, why didn't he have his
guitar on. He never went to it.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
I ever sang a song.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
It is it is.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
You like like you should like strum act.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
You're going back to the problem is I'm trying to
remember jokes man, Like I'm doing all that I did
at the very and be like, oh, yeah, I had
this car. I guess I never played and then, but
that wasn't the joke. I had to get tar in
case you should do that with the other interments, like
you just woke out with a tuba. Like I'm just
(52:07):
holding a trombone the whole time and I never even
get to it.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
That's pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
I wanted I'll wrap on this, but I wanted to
do this segment I say want it. I never actually
tried to do it because of the dedication it would take.
And I think I mentioned it in a couple of
interviews with artists where I wanted to go up and
be a part of the band and not have my
instrument plugged in. But like, let's say they gave me
a trump Like I went up with a trombone and
I got in Zach Brown's band. I never said I
(52:32):
was in it. Heck, I can wear a mustache or whatever,
and we just recorded from the crowd, me just faking
the trombone like crazy. Not so much as stealing the show,
not so much, but just just being in the band,
faking it and like feeling it right, just feeling it
even for a song, like I think that would be
so funny.
Speaker 5 (52:52):
But you gotta find the right artist to let you
do that.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
I have a few friends that would let me do it.
Oh yeah, but I don't want to the money to go.
I'll give you. I don't want to pay the money
to fly and that that three minute bit, it's gonna
cost like eight hundred.
Speaker 5 (53:05):
Dollars a day. That's funny though.
Speaker 7 (53:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
So there was another now I'm just doing this, but
there was another bit to our till Dady I said, hey, man,
we should do we should go and open for an
artist and not say it's us, not with guitars and
like sing acapella, nobody knows it's us. We try so
hard to sing the biggest song, like we go when
we try to eddell songs, we're trying as hard as
we can, never mind, and and they're like, we are
(53:28):
literally trying.
Speaker 5 (53:29):
Like trying our best.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yes, but it'll never be good and it's all Whitney
Houston adele, even with the backing track. But we can
play like karaoke track and we only have like twelve minutes.
But we go out and just try as hard as
we can. We don't shy away from it. We attack
it and then we're like, thank you, get and just
see what we have Cameras on the crowd the whole time.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
See this is where you're obsession with making people uncomfortable,
seeing how long it can last.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Yeah, as a comedian, that's why I didn't put that together.
But yes, but that's perfect.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
But that's a great way because nobody's ever well I'm
not nobody has ever done that, but something like that
I would shallow.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yes, And I say it again, we're not trying to
be bad. We're actually trying as good as we can.
But we're also really trying. Because you can hide from it,
sha la la la, and you can be like, oh,
that's a C plus. But if we're like, we gotta
do that, it would be so fun. I just don't
(54:22):
want to pay hundred dollars to get out to some city.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
I found a tube on Facebook Marketplace. I'll go get it.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
All right. Thank you guys. Now we can hit the
music again. We will see you guys Monday, Monday special guest.
You want to tell.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
Him Heisman Hopeful.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Oh that's good. You slowed out one.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
You can say it is Diego band quarterback.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
He will be in Monday. We just finished the interview
and they brought me a helmet yeah baal, a real
helmet and he signed it.
Speaker 5 (54:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeah, it was awesome. Uh So that'll be Monday. Up
you guys, have a great weekend. We'll see you guys
by everybody.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Hollo Eddie.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's Me and performed
by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports.
Thanks to our crew co host AT, producer Ddy, Segment
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Speaker 1 (55:25):
But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
We'll talk to you next time here on twenty five
whistles
This is a podcast call twenty five whist So stock
is forge and they were a whizz So yet it's
too bad, but it wasn't to expect.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's a podcast call twenty five whistles, twining, whine.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Whel Welcome to the show, Eddie body Whistle. I want
to start with Shane Gillis's SP's monologue, which he was
getting roasted pretty hard by like traditional media. It was
awesome if you were a sports fan and you like comedy.
It was awesome. Because people in the room weren't comfortable
doesn't mean it wasn't hilarious. People in the room were
(00:38):
not comfortable at first because he went hard.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It was a plus. It was so good. He also
wasn't mean. He roasted, but he wasn't mean. He didn't
punch down. He was perfect for it. And I was
so irritated watching some of the reviews, like audience doesn't
laugh during Shane Gillis's SPI monologue because the audience was
scared they were next. The audience was like, oh God,
(01:04):
hope he doesn't come to me. It was perfect. He
was the perfect guy to do it. I'm going to
play some of the jokes so why don't we go
with the clip one? This is the show? Hey, I
don't want to run the jokes, so go ahead of
Mike show.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Hey, Otani couldn't make it tonight, man, I hope his
interpreter didn't bet that he was going to be here show.
Hey is a once in a generation talent. No one's
been able to do what he does at so many positions. Pitcher,
hitter and Bookie. Hey, Bookie is what Bill Belichick reads
to his girlfriend before bedtime. Sugar Ray Leonards here, Ell, yeah,
(01:43):
Sugar Ray, you're the man. But what in ten years?
Jake Paul is going to try to knock you.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Out so easy?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And this is near the end, So the crowd's kind
of gotten into it at this point, and I'm just
kind of playing some in order of why. So this
one is the one that people were upset. Some people
were upset about. This is the Caitlyn Clark joke, the
waffle house joke. It was super funny, unless your little
butt gets hurt at anything. Go ahead, Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
She and I have a lot in common.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We're both whites from the Midwest who have nailed a
bunch of threes. All Right, there you go, light up
a little. This is not serious. We'll see about this one.
When Kaitlyn Clark retires from the w NBA, she's going
(02:34):
to work at a waffle house so she can continue
doing what she loves most, fist fighting. Black women.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Were hard on that one.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's so funny. Okay, we the three the threes is awesome. Dude, Yeah,
Nail in the threes my favorite joke, and I'll go
ahead and get to it now. Doe number seven. This
is my favorite of the entire night, and I think
people were confused a little while it happened, which is
part of the joke.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Four time w NBA All Star Britney Hicks is here.
Give it up for Brittany, everybody, I'm I'm joking around.
That's my friend's wife. I knew, none of you knew
w NBA players.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
You clap for that?
Speaker 6 (03:23):
So good?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's my very joking night. The crowd like, yep, yeah,
Brittany Hicks.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I mean I wasn't even clapping Brinny Hicks.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Four time All Star honor she's here.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's so funny. So let's do the clip four alien joke.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Joe Rogan actually wanted me to be here to host
this award show so that I could capture Adam Silver
because Joe thinks he's an alien. And Donald Trump wanted
to be wanted me to be here to capture Juan
Soto for the same.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Reason he got Boodle.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Now it's going hard. I'm telling you, it was perfect. Yeah,
it was pissing off a little group. A little bit
of the group was like, I don't know if I
just laugh because camera's on me, and the other groups
just like dying laughing, and that was shifting throughout the
whole crowd gohing. Hit the next one.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Donald Trump wants to stage a UFC fight on the
White House lawn. The last time he staged a fight
in DC. Mike Pen's almost died.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
The crowd down and they were like, that's a good one,
the excellent one. More. Actually, there was supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
An Epstein joke here, but as it got deleted, must
have probably deleted itself, right, probably never existed. Actually, let's
move on as a country and ignore that the crushed.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
If you get a minute like ten, go watch the
entire monologue on TikTok and you've heard a lot of
the jokes is great. Couldn't have done better because there
were enough uncomfortable people, And when you have that, you
can't judge how good or bad it is based on
the reaction of the crowd, because at the beginning of
that it would just huh.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
And you're so right with cameras there, you don't want
to react.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And there were celebrities that wouldn't laugh, or you would
see them trying not to laugh because they knew the
cameras were right on them. Because what happens when you're
at an award show. You know where the cameras are,
because the cameraman has a camera on his shoulder and
he gets right and freak in front of you.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah, they don't zoom there, No, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
From the corner. You know, at any point they're probably
gonna show your face, because it's happened when I've been
these award shows. If they're gonna put me on or
somebody next to me, they'll put the camera right on
the shoulder and be right and you're like, oh God,
I don't know what to do. Have a face. Oh,
that joke's offensive, but it's really funny. What do I do?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And then you look like a bad guy. Yes, yeah,
I think Lamar's head was down at one point that
the camera on him.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
His head was.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, he did a joke about Shuar Sanders did a
whole thing where he was first. It was like, ah,
that's that's not at nepotism because he went thirteen to
twelve and almost on the Alamobowl. That's why Jersey was retired.
And Lamar's like, oh yeah, yeah, He's like, it's Jersey's retired,
that's not nepotism. Look at the look at the stats.
(06:14):
He was thirteen to twelve and almost on the Alamobile. Yeah,
it was good. Oh, I do want to play the
clip of Shack threatening RG three. Good, he takes the
sunglasses off too.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
It does man looks on a camera. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Shaq was on a podcast recently and threatened to beat
up RG three because RG three keeps coming to Angel Reese.
But mostly it was about that retweet of the graphic
that somebody did and really really really poor taste of
Angel Reese. And RG three didn't have to retweet that
and make the comment. He really didn't. Yeah, And so
Shaq says this on at Gillian bow on Twitter's page
(06:50):
here you go.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Oh, speaking of man RG three tweeting another monkey post
about my girl Angeury, some punch in your face. Okay,
it's enough. I don't usually do stuff like this, but
just stop it, bro, you got your job, you got
your podcast. Leave my angelries alone. I'm the one calling
her and telling her not to respond. Stop it. That's
the last time.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, I wouldn't watch coming after me. No, I'm scared
he wouldn't catch me if I'm MARGI three. But if
he does, correct, if he does, that's trouble. We had
the All Star Game a couple of nights ago, and
I fell asleep and stopped watching after like the first inning,
and we came in and I had seen that they
did the swing off at the end. I loved it awesome.
(07:31):
I didn't watch it live. I would never watch anything
that late live on a weeknight because unless it's Arkansas playing,
because I gotta I gotta go to bed. But that
was really cool. I wish they would do that in
major league games instead of bending.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Oh, that'd be amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
What was bizarre to me? And again I missed it live,
so I'm not gonna act like I was so die
hard and I was up watching having these thoughts. I
watched it all on clips the next day. I'm like, oh,
this is super cool. It's basically home run derby at
the end of the game, and that what a fun
way because I said to Eddie it was like penalty
kicks in soccer, which I think is the best part
of a soccer match. Penalty kicks because they don't score
any goals, we can at least get some goal scored.
(08:05):
And I thought that was super cool, and that would
be super cool if they implemented that in like the
first half of the regular season, because they're gonna be like, well,
we can't do this in meaningful games, right, fine, that
makes sense. They do take the runner off second base
in the playoffs for extra innings, and people were way
against that in extra innings at first. But if you
just play extra innings with nobody on those stupid games
(08:25):
go seventeen eighteen, nineteen innings, it's crazy to do something
and baseball's already slow. And thought I was boring, So
I love for the first half of the year if
they would do that swing off it was so cool. Yeah. Secondly,
and now I think everybody knows, but people were going
where's Otani? Where's Judge? Why aren't they the ones hitting
(08:45):
the balls? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Because they go They go to the managers, right, like
all right, American League, here's your manager of Boone, Like
who are you gonna have hitting? And it's like name
three people? Like who?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Right?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Like you have Aaron Judge? Like who?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
They're not there? They went home. I never knew they
went home in the middle of the game.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Wild.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
This is how I found out that the players leave
in the middle of the game. Unless you may be
the MVP, then you stay. But other than you just
go home.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Some dudes, like when the locker room changed their clothes
and they were like in regular street clothes, came out
and watched the game. I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
But if the one who would it have been to
see them in street clothes? Bomb and ball? They call
them from the bleachers sick, I propose, because again, baseball
is not a sport that makes big changes or any
change quick. But they are a sport now that starts
to see young people don't care as much as they
used to. And you're also seeing the Savannah Bananas sell
(09:42):
out like crazy, impossible to get tickets. So what are
we going to do to grow baseball, because we are
seeing that baseball can be grown if done right. And
I think one of the really cool things to do
would be to make this I'm not going to say
the whole season. I guess the playoffs. Traditionalists will have
a freaking fit the first half of the season leading
up to the All Star Game. Any game going into
extra innings, you do the freaking swing.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Off, yeah, awesome. And then even as a fan you're like,
because if it goes to extras, You're like, I'm out
of here. I'm not gonna stick around. Who knows how
long this is gonna lie. And how they did it too,
with like you get three swings. It's awesome, so cool.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
What was also cool too, is that did you watch
it live?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I did, well. I had money on it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh you bet it had.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
In the American League. So when they came back, I'm
staying up to watch this thing. What was really cool though,
were the pitch reviews.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So I was going to bring that up next, So
they they did it before the season started, so in
uh spring training, and so the A B S system
Yeah whatever, that system abs challenge system. I would love
for that to be a permanent part of the game,
but not with noamp because that just looks weird if
there's just a catcher and a batter and.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Somebody has to get hit by the ball.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I think eventually whatever robot ump I think being able
to challenge is great, especially with money now being bet
And I'm not the first person to say, now that
money's being bet on games, you need to get it right.
When you can legally allow betting, you need to make
sure the call is right. And that's what happened. It
was so smooth, Buttom the first inning I actually saw
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it being used because it was like the first inning
of the game. Pretty cool. Yeah, there was even a
challenge on a call.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
There was one where it was just a sliver of
a hit of a strike, like I mean, dude, it
barely touched it about, Like that's legit, it's real. You
can't argue it.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I think umpires are needed. I like humans. I'm pro human.
By the way, wait better now, it can't be any
more pro human than me. But I do think balls
and strikes for sure needs to be able to be
reviewed because everything else can be reviewed. And if we
want to do it the first half of the year, great,
because we've done it in the spring training, we do
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it in the All Star Game. Let's just see how
it goes for the first half of the year. Actually
make it in some games that matter.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yeah, I feel like the umps. You know, I would
not speaking for every umpire out there, but I feel
like they like to be right.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You know, they got a little bit of power. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Some have big egos. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I think it's even ego aside. I think it kind
of sucks if you're wrong anyway, even if you're not
a big ego person, like your job is to get
it right. Let's say take balls and strikes out of it.
Let's say tag at second, Oh all right, we want
to review, and you go and review. You're just praying,
oh my god, I hope I'm right, and you were
so animated to when you're out of that, and then
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they come back and they're like, overturn the call. You know,
that's even if your ego is not big, even if
you're not the guy that is loud and large, you're like, oh,
now I have to go admit in front of everybody
that I was.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Wrong at my job. And they get graded after every game. Yeah,
like the MLB grades them and sees who does the best,
who's most accurate, So that would suck.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
That would suck a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I'm all. I want to say it again. I'm
pro human. You can't be any more pro human than me.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Thank goodness, dude, Yeah, glad you are so.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But I think the umpires serve a purpose behind on plate,
just not to have full of thought already of balls
and strikes. They can call balls and strikes, but I
think you should be able to challenge.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And we got to have coaches be tossed. Still, that's fun,
that's great.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
My favorite are the clips when the coach like, just
throw me out. I'm gonna kick some dirt, John, just
kick me out here. I really need to do a
scene here. High see for dinner later on. Right. They'll
walk out in their mouths covered at first a little bit,
so no one can read their lips of job boy
can't read their left everybody. I was, alright, you just
get me arguing, you mother out of here. So I
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did think the game was fun because they got to
wear their old universe, their normal uniforms. Yea, they haven't
done that in like six or seven years. So it hasn't.
But when we were kids, it's all they did. It
wore the original uniforms and it was so cool to
see your guys on your team make the All Star team.
So the All Star Game is great, Like baseball is
doing a pretty good job at trying to smell like
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move forward a bit instead of just staying the same,
which was making them fall back. Pitch clock great.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I like, eliminate the shift they did they did with
the defense.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Although you know what the shift. The shift is kind
of a strategic movie of all that. I'm pro human.
I'd like to I didn't really hate the shift. I
didn't just be a better hitter.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
And I don't understand like everyone's moved to the right.
You're a wide open on the left. Can't you just like,
come on, just trimp the ball that.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Way a little bit, That's what I'm saying, Like, learn
learn to hit opposite field. You're pro, you know you're
one of the greatest hitters in America, or you wouldn't
be in the major leagues. Maybe learn how to hit
the opposite film wide open over there, swing a fraction
of a second late. That's all you gotta do.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Maybe it's harder than we think. But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Probably British open keeping up with it when we do
the show. I don't keep up with it at all.
I guess you do.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
We do the show, it's on, and you know we
got a break.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I look over, I'm talking about the morning show. This
morning started this morning.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, I mean dude, when Yeah, I mean by the time,
like we're rolling on the show, I think the first
group's already done. It's I don't know what how early
it is over there, but it's crazy that half of
the tournament or the day round is pretty much done
when America is starting to roll out of bed.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, it's like football, I know London, but for a
I guess I mean time zones.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You know, I've heard of them. Yeah, but Sundays is
a little different, right, They do roll it out a
little later, like, but it's probably on Sunday, the final round.
It'll probably start at nine am for most most of us.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
There's also a cut, yeah, unless players, so you don't
have to cram everybody on as early.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
But I'm not I haven't watched any of it, but
I've I hear that, Like the weather.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Is really bad, awesome, That's how I want that. I
want that to be so difficult. I want it to
be like the US Open, where they rough is like
ten feet tall. I want to be cornstalks. And then
I want this the weather to be so bad. It's
like when you're playing Tiger Woods you have an adjust
the arrow because when seven miles an hours, I want
them adjusting their arrows live. Yeah, I want it to
be raining. Yeah, I want the weather to just kick
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them right in the balls.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Roy's first two t shots shank them.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
He was plus seven fifty. He was a favorite to
win it. Where is he now? Not sure? And again
when you hear this, the day one, maybe day even
day two will be over.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
But did you bet?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I didn't?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Do you bet pre round? Ever?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Like for these majors, almost never.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
That's the best odds, man, I know, it's like just
to throw a dart in the like.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Oh yeah, best odds because there so many.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But he's under right now.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So who's leading as of right now?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Good luck? Okay, good luck?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Ht Lee and Fitzpatrick can't win it on day one,
can lose it on day one though?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Right, So I usually bet it on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Do you kind of look at who's leading on Saturday,
and then.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yes, And I never bet the person leading because usually
the odds aren't good. But I'll bet somebody like fifth
or sixth, seventh, or a no name like eleventh or twelfth.
That's it because I can get pretty good odds and
they have consistently played well the last weekend or they
wouldn't be famous and successful. So that's usually what I
look at.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Yeah. Same like, I'll wake up on Sunday, Sunday mornings
before the last round starts, and I'll look at the
leader board and if like Scheffler's up by like ten,
not touching it, you know, like that's that's over. But
if you know, like he said, Morgen Schornsten is leading first.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He felt a little racist toward the muppet chef, right, yeah,
sweetest chef.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
There's another guy named Smith, you know. Second, I'm going
with a big name at like third or fourth. Always
let's take a break.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We'll come back and just a little bit and talk
with Stuart Mandel, who is the editor in chief of
The Athletic. We're gonna talk college football and nil and
we'll get into the weeds with that. Give us a
second we'll come back here. Supposedly, drinking Korean pair juice
before drinking alcohol results in a twenty percent improvement in
hangover symptoms. I don't drink, so I've never had the
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history of trying to find the hangover cure. What do
you find to be the best for a hangover, Eddie?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
So if you want to be proactive, this is what
I've learned through all my ears of drinking. Have one
drink of alcohol, one drink of water, one drink of alcohol,
one drink of water, and you will get rid of
that hangover. You won't even have the hangover. However, if
you don't do that, which I get party situations, you're
not thinking of getting water the next day. Rob it, headaches,
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it's hurting, you feel like death in your bed. Manudo
man Go to a Mexican restaurant on Sundays and ask
for manudal.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
If a random white person walks in, it's never been
in the Mexican restaurant by themselves, looking a little torn
and tattered, well they know why they're asking from a newdo.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Of course, they won't even ask, like what you want?
I know what you can mean?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Long night, Long Night, Kevin you're from a different part
of the world, Yes, because I feel like.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Where you're from, dude, California.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Based on like the culture you grew up in here.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, that's rare.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean nobody in I was going to find some
menudo if you're in like South Texas, Arizona, Mexico.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah. I used to give my buddy a bunch of
crap Betty for drinking of water in between every single drink.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
So was that.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
We kind of kind of upset to hear you say that.
But I think you're just getting older and I'll be
there in a little bit older. Smarter, I know it is.
I agree, it is smarter for sure, but we never learned,
do we. I use Alka Seltzer.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think Alcoa.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Seltzer's the best. Like when it comes to hangovers, number
one is sleep. If you can get sleep, that's the
number one thing, and then you wake up Alca Seltzer,
which they actually have hangover pills. Now, I haven't even
tried it yet because they caught on. I think everybody
likes it and it does a trick so good. The
tablets you drop them in the water.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
We've heard of it.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Okay, just wait you're both looking at me.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Like, because I've never heard of alka seltzer as a
hangover cure.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
From a different part of the world.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Dude, that's what we do about.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
But when you say when you say like sleep though,
like do you mean like if you drink all night Friday,
Saturday's done? Like you're just in bed all day?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
No, like say you go to sleep at midnight, Like
if you can sleep till seven or eight? Money am, Yeah,
Like if you can get seven or eight hours of sleep,
but if you if I'm running on like four hours
of sleep, it's gonna be a rough one.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Why do you think And I had to look it
up because I don't know. I've never looked at the
because I've never needed the science. Why do you think
people get hangovers dehydration? Okay, that's that's both of you.
Guys went with that.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Heart because alcohol just sucks all that water out of you,
like yep, dries you up.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So that is a part of it, but not the
biggest part.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
My mom always said potassium.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Now I'm not the expert. I literally looked this up,
so I'm not going I can't believe you guys don't know.
I didn't know, like seriously.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
My mom would be like here, Miko, hear him banana.
You need potassium because you have a hangover.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So here is the answer from chat GPT. People get
hangovers because alcohol messes with your body and brain in
a bunch of ways at once. Here's a breakdown of
why you feel so awful. Sleep disruption. Even if you
pass out, alcohol messes up your sleep quality. You skip
ram sleep, and that leads to brain fog, fatigue, and moodiness.
So that's that's part of it. And what you're going
to see is it's a collection of things. It's a
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big stew. Okay, no, well, yes, you use a stewdent
fi a stew. I guess Ricky Martin. Next up, toxic byproducts.
As your liver breaks on allcohola produces a chemical called
m ace tall to hyde, which is even more toxic
than the alcohol itself. Your body eventually clears it, but
not before it makes you nauseous, sweat, and feel very bad. Next, dehydration.
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Alcohol is diuretic, which means it makes you pee more.
You lose fluids and electrolytes, which leads to symptoms like
dry mouth, headache, and dizziness. Your blood sugar drops. Alcohol
messes with your glucose levels. The crash and blood sugar
can make you weak, shaky, and angry. Two more, stomach irritation.
Alcohol increases stomach acid and irritates the lining of your stomach,
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which adds to nausea, vomiting, stomach pain. That's where the
vomiting comes in. And finally, just general inflammation. Alcohol triggers
an immune response that can make you feel achy, unfocused,
and just generally sick. A hangover as your body's way
of saying, you poison me a little bit and now
you're going to pay. But it's because of a whole
lot of different things happening body, not one single factor.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
So no potassium level, like mom says, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Not having the appropriate amount of potassium isn't able to
fight the toxic biput.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
It's not in your list over there.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I didn't make the list, I'm honest. But yes, so
there's a little education, dude.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
What's crazy? When you were reading that list, what stood
out was the like the time, the multiple times that
you go pee Like it's crazy. How as soon as
you start drinking you gotta pee, Like there's like you
break that seal right, like you have twenty gallons of
water in you.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
If you know you're gonna be in a crowd or
somewhere tough to get out to go to the bathroom,
you don't pound beers.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
And if you're not drinking and you have to pee,
you can hold it. Not a big deal. When you're
drinking and you have to pee, you cannot hold it.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Sometimes you just go.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, they do say again that Korean pair juice before
drinking alcohol. And if you're the guys like pull over
and you get some Korean pair juice, we get some,
you're probably gonna get made fun of. I'm gonna put
that out there.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Where do you get a Korean pe?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Korea? Obviously? Okay, I've mentioned this a couple of times
in different places. But we've been watching a show called
The Kingdom. Anybody watching it on Netflix? It is a
South Korean zombie show. It's good. It starts off a
little slow, but we put English subtitles and we make
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them speak English. But what's crazy is they actually speak
with really thick Korean accents, so they're speaking English. But there,
I would do an impression, but I don't want to
get I don't even feel like that's racist because I'm
just literally doing an impression. It's risk it's not risky,
and I'm pro human. I'm pro Korean South anyway, and so,
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but they do Korean accents and I thought to myself, well,
that's weird. They're doing really south. And then I thought
to myself, well, I've heard some guy with a Southern
accent overdubbing your Korean. Yeah, Marge, watch out for that.
I might think that would be weird. It's good. Episode
one's a little slow, but by the time it's only
six episodes for two seasons. By the time you get
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like three in, it's awesome. If you like zombie shows,
I think you'll really like it. If you're into like
swords and stuff. Yeah, what was a Tom Cruise movie
he did Mike where he was like sword fun Last Samurai?
H Yeah, I like you like that kind of fighting
and stuff, you'll like it.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Was that a good movie? Last Summa?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I don't know. I don't watch it. Pretty good movie,
it was, yeah, yeah, No, I don't know, okay, but
it's good. Kevin wants to admit he was wrong about
the Red Sox.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
It's take me a while to get here. I still
have not watched one single game since they traded Devers.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You're not though, no games.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I have not watched or will you?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You said no games for you?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So I was wrong. I was obviously wrong. They've won
ten in a row going into the All Star Break,
and ever.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Since Trump was there, they haven't lost. I know, Boston
Trump socks.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Exactly, exactly, and I've had the biggest fomo, like watching
little highlights, walk off home runs, team going crazy, everyone
having fun, the crowd's into it. My brother's texting me.
I'm like, leave me alone. And I have to say
I think I was wrong that they made the right
move trading Devers. Obviously, the clubhouse and the entire locker
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room is a better place. Players are playing better, the
team's playing better, and all of a sudden, now they're
in the playoffs. If it started today, that's freaking awesome.
So if I met him wrong, can I go back
to watch you you can?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You can do it?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Yeah, dude, it's your life.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, okay, thanks, guys. You don't know us anything. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I'm just sitting there, you know, I'm like, I want
you to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm pro human. I want you to do that perfect? Thanks, guys.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
An't that amazing though? That like a team really they
know what's right for them instead of the fans that
don't know anything about what's going on inside.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Says a cowboy, says a cowboys. Yeah, complains about everything. Yeah,
you do it like and you know what they should do.
You know how they should do it. Why didn't they
do this?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Have you seen Dak? He looks ripped and ready to go? Dude,
he should be. He looks good, healthy, healthy, He says,
he's ready to go. And I mean, I don't know
if he's just working out. He looks good. I don't
know I can throw the ball, but he looks good.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Are you watching him to the ball?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
No, No, there's just a picture he posted. Dang, dude,
he's been in the gym.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
What do you mean you don't know how he can
throw the ball.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
No, I don't know how he's throwing the ball. Oh okay, okay,
because I'm not seeing those clips.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I think you said, like physically, you don't know how
he can throw a ball.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
With all those muscles that jack. You know who else
looked good working out was Ben Simmons. He'd always posted
videos in the lab. Yeah, what do you mean, like
this is the year for Ben Simmons all the other years,
Let's forget about him.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Why are you comparing those two?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Just that the Internet would lead us to believe, based
on the images that we saw that Ben Simmons are
really going to turn it around this year.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Didn't quite happen?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, that's it. I'll come back and talk to Stuart Mandel.
We'll talk college football coming up next. All right, now,
we're going to go over and talk with Stuart Mandel,
who is the editor in chief for The Athletic. Go
to the Athletic dot com do read his articles. Also
does a podcast called The Audible. I really enjoy his writing.
And we're gonna talk about nil and we're going to
all the stuff that you may think is boring, we're
probably going to talk about here because I do not
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find it boring at all. You'm a massive college football fan.
So here he is follow him on Twitter at sl Mandel.
Here he is Stuart Mandel. Hey Stuart, big fan of
your work. Really appreciate the time.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I do want to start with this because I saw
you post the article just this morning, and it was
basically about collectives and how NIL now is going to
be coming through the school, except it's not really an
IL what's happening right now because I almost can't keep
up with it.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
It's very hard to keep up with.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
But you know, the House settlement got approved last month,
and so that allowed the colleges to go through with
this plan they had twofold. They can now share revenue
directly up to twenty point five million dollars the schools
can share with their athletes, but also they've set up
this clearinghouse nil GO that has to approve these outside
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deals and collectives have obviously dominated the NIL space for
the last few years. That's where athletes get most, if
not all, of their ANIL income. And the Commission came
out with a statement saying collectives don't serve a valid
business purpose, their deals are not going to get approved.
They were already prepared, the collectives are already prepared to
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have their deals more closely scrutinized for fair market value,
but this was kind of a step or two beyond that.
They're saying it doesn't matter what the compensation is or
even if it's for valid activities, autographs, and they pay
the athletes to do autograph signings or go period a
golf tournament or whatnot.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
They don't care.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
They think collectives are just a front for pay for
play and they're not going to approve the deals.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
But aren't they? And I say that as someone who
was a part of one, and so I've been involved
as someone who donated and worked with a collective and
now I do an as all money and deals with
athletes to actually do things because I know the new
rule is up to like six hundred bucks, etc. Have
to be reported up to six hundred bucks. But really,
weren't collectives exactly what you're saying they are?
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah, I think that's one of those things where it's
it's not even a secret at this point, right, everybody
knows that's the intention. And that's why this commission is
coming down and saying, you know, these are not valid
business Basically, they're saying it's not a valid business attempt
if you're paying an athlete to promote your product so
that the collective can make money to then give to
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the next wave of athletes. Right, it's not they don't
think that's legitimately for for goods and services for a
for profit company.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
But that doesn't mean it's it's gonna fly. The lawyers
for the.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
Playoffs in the House settlement as soon as that memo
went out wrote back and said, this is not part
of the settlement. You don't get to decide who is
or isn't a valid business, and if you don't retract that,
we're going to take it back to the judge. So
we're waiting to see if anything comes of that.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I guess my final question on this, and I am
very interested in it, is that don't you think eventually
this just ends with this collective bargaining agreement with the
players and the GM and the athletic directors, almost like
we see in pro sports, but not quite.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's what you hear a
lot in regards to this salary cap. Right Like in
the athletic directors and commissioners' eyes, this is a pro
sports model now, where there's a hard cap and you
can't go beyond it. But the people on the other
side that would say the differences in the NBA and
the NFL, they collectively bargained that cap, the athletes agreed
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to that cap. This was negotiated through a lawsuit settlement
that I'm guessing most of the athletes that weren't even
aware of, right So, I do think some form of
collective bargaining is coming at some point, whether that comes
through the courts, Congress, whatever that may be. But right
now we're kind of in that limbo state, I think,
where they're trying to kind of get away with both.
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There's a salary cap, but there's no union, there's no
collective bargaining.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
So let's just pivot over to college football specifically, where
does Nick Saban coach now?
Speaker 8 (30:56):
I mean, obviously that was the big hot story this
week at SEC media Days. I wouldn't necessarily assume that
that's going to be the case. I mean, he's going
to be seventy four by the time this next coaching
carousel comes up, and you know, he's not a fan
of nil and transfer portal and whatnot. So does he
really want to get back in and deal with that?
But certainly if he decides he is, and look, he's
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his guy's Bill Belichick, who's who's.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Basically doing the same move right now.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
Anybody with a coaching opening would be would obviously want him.
And so when you look at the schools that might
have a coaching opening this coming year. The one that
really stands out to me's Oklahoma if Brent Vnables doesn't
have a big year, because that kind of meets all
the Nick Saban checklist. It's a powerhouse program that you
can win national championships at, it's a huge, rabid fan base,
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and you're in a state where you're really the only
recruiting power. Right Oklahoma State sometimes gets recruits they want,
but not very often.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
The rumor was for a while that Nick Saban was
going to run whatever body was over the nil or
the portal. He was going to be like the King Dingleyam.
College football has that kind of passed by.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Now, you know, it's interesting that was never possible obviously
in the traditional model, but they've set up now. They
actually have this thing called the College Sports Commission, which
would seem to be right for a commissioner, but right
now they hired an executive from Major League Baseball to
oversee that. And look, Nick Saban's got a pretty cushy gig.
Now right you're on game day.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
You get to.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Still be part of college football, travel to games without
the headaches of having to deal with the actual issues
in college sports.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
If we talk about the college football playoffs and we
look at last year, Boise State gets a buy and
based on the system, that's exactly how it should have been.
Did you like how it was? Or are you for
a we're going to rank them as they are and
let them fall in as they are.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's where we're headed. I
think that that's already been changed.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
The whole thing about the CFP is that it was
devised before the Pac twelve fell apart. So the idea
that the four highest ranked conference champs would get the buys.
You figured those are going to be pretty highly ranked
teams because you'd be doing the four out of the
five power conferences. But now that's no longer the case,
and so last year it just so happened that bois
ended up finishing ahead of you know, the ACC champ, Clemson,
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which kind of got in at the last second. So
they've already changed that. This year it'll be the top
four seeds regardless of conference, and I think you can
assume those will probably be teams from the Big ten
at SEC.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
You think the Pac twelve will ever be a thing again?
They are adding new teams, which all Texas State just
went in. But do you think that'll be a We'll
go back to Power five.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
That'd be nice.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
But you know that if you look at the lineup
they have coming forward, right, you have Oregon State and
Washington State and then you have a bunch of Mountain
West schools, and so they're probably closer to the AAC.
In fact, they are closer to the AAC than the
Power conferences. My hope is that one day saner Heads
will prevail, even if it's not in football. Right, football
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doesn't involve that much travel. But I think the shame
of this what happened is these West Coast schools are
sending their basketball teams, their volleyball teams there, you name it,
teams all the way across the country to play matches,
and those aren't the things that are making the money.
I'm hoping saner Heads will prevail at some point and
you can separate West Coast football from West Coast to
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all the other sports and get Stanford and Cal and
USC and UCLA and the Arizona schools and the Oregon
Washington playing each other again like they should.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well, it's not unprecedented to have a school play football
without a conference like a Notre Dame and then play
basketball in a conference. I mean eventually, probably just logistically,
that would be where it falls. Are they doing anything
to actually make that happen yet or are we just
talking about it?
Speaker 8 (34:42):
It's not anything imminent because these TV contracts that the
conferences have are all in place for many years at
this point, I mean, including the accs, goes well into
the twenty thirties, So it seems like the lineups you
have now will be the lineups for the next at
least five to six years. But I think there'll be
another big shakeup the Big Ten contract comes up, I
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think in five years. Around that time, a couple of
the others do as well. So if you're looking at
a next big change to the structure of conferences, you
would look to that.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
You think Notre Dame joins a conference in football at all?
Speaker 8 (35:20):
They really have no reason to. The system is set
up well for them. Now we'll see what happens with
this expanded playoff that they're already talking about. If the
Big Ten has their way, most of those berths would
become automatic berths for the conferences and then if you're
Notre Dame, you have to look hard at that. But
as long as you have the current system where there's
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a lot of at large berths and now by the way,
they can host I mean sorry, they can get a bye, right.
They couldn't get it before when those were conference champs.
There's really nothing they would gain necessarily from joining a conference.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
If you were able to make rules regarding the transfer portal,
what rules would you implement.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
I actually, I think the NCAA had a really good
rule as of a few years ago, which is everybody
gets one exception where they can transfer and play right away.
If you want to transfer again after that, you have
to sit out a Here. The problem is, and this
is the case right with a lot of nca rules
now somebody sued in a court struck it down. Now
even unlimited transfers, which I don't think are good for anybody.
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I don't fault a player for wanting to start over
at a new opportunity.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
That's their decision, that's their life.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
But the idea that every player in the country is
a free agent every single season and doesn't there's nothing,
you know, really to discourage them from doing so, is bad.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
For the schools. It's bad.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
I think for the athletes who it's really hard to
develop in your career if you're playing for a new
coach and a new system every single year.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
You mentioned Bret Ventables at Oklahoma. You didn't say the
words hot seat, but they're looking for them to succeed.
I have family, they're massive Oklahoma fans, so I'm close
to that situation a bit. Who else are these high
profile coaches that need to win and now, you.
Speaker 8 (37:01):
Know, I think there's several in the SEC. Start with
hu Freeze. Auburn fans are notoriously not patient, and he's
had a rough couple of years, and some people think
they'll be a lot better this year. Some people see
it and go, you know, the quarterback that they got,
is he really that much better than the guy they
had before?
Speaker 6 (37:17):
So him, you.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
Know, billiy Napier won some people back at the end
of last year at Florida. But if they were to
start out bad again this year like they did last year,
you would I think you would start to hear that again.
And then you've got coaches who theoretically would be on
the hot seat, except they have these enormous buyouts Brian Kelly,
Lincoln Riley in particular, coaches that if they don't perform
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this well, perform well this year, the fans aren't.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Going to want him back.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
But is the school willing to pay fifty sixty even
seventy something million dollars to buy them out?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That's something a collective could do, right, Just buy out coaches.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Use the money on them instead.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, that's what I would say, Like, if you're so
passionate about you buy all the coaches.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
A and M set the precedent right right. Oil was
great at the time. They were able to pay seventy
five million to buy out Jimbo Fisher. I mean, the
crazy thing is that they agreed to these contracts in
the first place. When UFC hired Lincoln Riley, they gave
him a ten year contract and it's never been fully
made public it's private school, but believed to be eleven
million dollars a year fully guaranteed. There was absolutely no
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way to get out of this if he didn't do well.
I think they just assumed he would because he'd done
so well at Oklahoma and now they might be stuck
with him.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Do you think a bit because we saw this with
Deshaun Watson in Cleveland where they gave him all that money,
guaranteed money, and that really changed where owners now are going,
we're not doing that because we just saw one really
bad example of it, because he gets hurt, he has
all the trouble, he seems like a bad dude. So
they're not doing that at all. And now there's the
drama like where they conspiring behind the scenes to not
give anybody guaranteed contracts. Do you feel like these college coaches,
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what's happened to Texas A and M, what's happening now
at USC where they really can't get out of it.
Do you think these situations not being positive will affect
future contracts with coaches?
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Well, on the one hand, you know, all these schools
are facing a challenge. There's an extra twenty point five
million dollar budget item now to pay the players. You
got to cut back somewhere, so it would make sense. Okay,
we're gonna stop throwing money at these coaches. And yet
as soon as a school you know, has a coach
they really want to get, they go and do they
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do it anyway? I mean, bread Venables is a good example.
They gave him a big extension after his second season
when he really hadn't done much yet, and so he
went and had a bad third season. I still think
if it came to it, they would cut him loose
this year. But these schools that give It's one thing
if you're trying to steal a coach away from another
school and you have to make it worth his while.
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But what we see time and again is schools just
going ahead and giving him a big race.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Mike Norvell.
Speaker 8 (39:54):
After that great season two years ago, Floria State got
a new contract ten million dollars a year.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
They go out and they go two and ten. Last year.
They regret that big contract.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Now.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
So to your question, I mean, we'll see. We've yet
to see that trend change yet. Maybe it does now
because of the new variable with the revenue sharing.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
What do you think the expectation is for Bill Belichick?
Speaker 8 (40:20):
Yeah, that's a great question. Is the expectation different now
than it was when he was hired? Because when he
was hired, certainly a lot of proponents of the hire think, hey,
he's going to come in, he's going to flash his
Super Bowl rings.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Recruits are going to come running. They'll be very good.
Speaker 8 (40:36):
The way the offseason has gone the Jordan Hudson storyline.
I think of people A lot of people now are thinking,
was this really good idea? I think if they just
go to a Bowl game the first year and people
realize it takes a little time to turn around a program,
So the first year you kind of get some you
get a free pass, unless you go three and nine
and then everybody's going to say, what a disaster this is.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
You feel a little bit though, like people will have
less patience because you can turn a programmer on so fast,
because you can't actually just write checks.
Speaker 8 (41:02):
Well, I think you know, when I started covering the sport,
it was you need four years to turn it around.
Then it became three, and then it became two. I
don't think we're seeing the pressure yet to do it.
And I mean Deon Sanders is a great example. Right
first year was not great. People are saying, you know,
this is a disaster. Then they had a really good
season last year. But I do think that's the limit.
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Nobody wants two bad seasons in a row now because
of exactly what you said.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
You can.
Speaker 8 (41:30):
You can turn over your whole roster now through the portal,
and so you don't need three or four high school
classes to come in. You can turn it around really quickly.
First years are tough.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
For many reasons.
Speaker 8 (41:41):
You get a late start on recruiting, and it's just
you know, you're completely changing the culture.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Are the players going to buy in?
Speaker 5 (41:48):
So? You know?
Speaker 8 (41:49):
I think people still are at least reasonable enough to
realize it's going to take more than one year, but
not more than two years.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Final question for you. I was looking through the quarterbacks
and Drew Aller, Penn State or nuss Meyer or DJ
Lagway or Kate Klubnick who looked really good against Texas
until they end up losing that game. Like he went
down to Austin and played really well. Is an Austin
kid too? Like, there are a lot of really good quarterbacks. Who,
in your mind is your favorite for the Heisman? Way
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too early?
Speaker 8 (42:18):
Obviously everybody's gonna say arch Manning. The problem for arch
Manning is the expectations are so high that I feel
like if he just has a good season but not
an amazing season, people might turn on him. I do
like Kate clubness chances and here's why. I mean, first
of all, he's really good. I think it's snuck up
on people last year toward the end of the season.
How much better he got. Clemson is to me the
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class of the ACC. Maybe Miami's close, Probably not. If
they can beat LSU in that first game, he kind
of bolts to the front of the list, and then
I think stays there at least stays in the mix
most of the season. Obviously, Texas is preseason number one,
but again because expectations for arch Manning or so much
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higher than they are for Kate club Nick. I mean,
let's say they lose to Ohio State the first week
and everybody can say he's overrated.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
It was just his last name, you know.
Speaker 8 (43:08):
I think that's what he's That's the biggest hurdle for
him in terms of Heisman contention.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Stuart is the editor in chief for The Athletic and
also check us podcast out with Bruce Feldman called The
Audible wherever you get your podcasts. A big fan of
your work was reading your article this morning. Thank you,
Thank you for taking some time and talking with us.
Really hope you have a great day.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
Thanks Stuart, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
All Right, that's going to wrap it up for us today.
Thank you guys for being here. I will say that.
I went and I got my tooth fixed, and then
I was flossing and it broke off again.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Oh my good lady. Do you get your money back
for that?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
No, I'll just get another tooth put on.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
How hard do you floss?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
That's what my wife said. She's like, what are you doing?
You're going at it in there. I do use floss
or to use the picks both, and I floss probably
like five times a day. So because I do that,
I think I've probably warned my teeth down. Not only that.
When I first started making any sort of money where
I could save, I bought teeth. That was my first thing.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
I was like, a hobby.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (44:01):
What are you bude teeth for a hobby?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Likenmillion? You know, like I what's weird is when you
get teeth, they shave all your other teeth down, Like
that's how veneers work. They shave all your real teeth down.
And my teeth were messed up and they shave them
down and then they put the veneers over the top
of them. And so but I did that, and I
remember this is like ten years ago. The dentist was like, hey,
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and like ten years you're gonna have to get these replaced,
like these are not forever, they're about they're worth about
ten years. They don't know what to say to people
to get boo jobs like these aren't forever, like you
have to get them fixed. And I remember thinking, well,
ten years will never come. Who cares about ten years?
I just neglected to do it. And so I think
part of it is my NonStop flossing, and part of
it is the teeth are getting a little older, and
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some of them I've had replaces, I've cracked them. But
like this is as you can see, it's gone, but
it's really affected my feathers in my so all day long,
I've like struggled because you make sounds. Everybody knows this,
but you don't think about it until it's actually affecting
you where your tongue hits the top of your mouth
and your teeth.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
But my sounded great today.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
There were times where I was just I could feel it,
and I probably feel a little more. It's like when
you have like a little cut in your mouth or something.
It's the fucking duck.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Atsh who were the who? The team? Baseball team in.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Chicago's offer and thuck of that the coggle cul.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
None of the other one.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
The other one the Gogga white thun. So my Didnis
went on vacation though I know. I texted him he's awesome,
and I was like, hey, I'm a tooth, sorry about that.
I probably fast a little too early. I think he
actually said don't do it for a day or so.
You know me, I'm just didn't letting it rip there.
So I text him. I was like, hey, it doesn't hurt,
but I dude talks a little funny and so we'll
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get a fixed next week. But so if I've sounded
a little weird or a little thing by the way
I said thucker and thuck of thatsh not a bad word. No,
there are people that will highlight sounds. This single sounds
from me doing years and years of shows and podcasts,
and they'll take it. Be like you said the for
it here, you said you don't cuss. First of all,
I don't have a problem with cursing. So even if
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I did, I'm okay with it. But I didn't because
I don't.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
You really don't.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
I don't. I don't, even in the private privacy of
our own home like anything, are doing it. I don't
even in the privacy.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Of our own home together.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, the dark room, but I don't. I don't not
curse for you. I not curse for me. So if
I do decide to curse, who cares? I'm only not
doing it for me. I think cursing is hilarious if
you use the right way. I just had to stop
cursing seven years or so ago because I didn't want
to write cursing. I wanted to write cursive but not
cursing difference. So, speaking of writing, I wrote a bunch
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of jokes. I'm doing the opera tomorrow night. It's just
risky to go into a bunch of jokes and you've
never done them before, all at once, and with the
crowd that isn't there to see you, because when people
go to the opry, they go to the opery to
see whomever shows up. It's not that they're there to
see somebody else specifically. Some of them are, some of
them aren't. Some are just there to see the brand.
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And so I walk out on stage and I'm you know,
I have all these new jokes.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Oh no, you're taking some Gillis's jokes.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, So I have all these jokes like I wrote
a whole part of a set on being like doos
and dollerant.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Okay as relatable.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, because let me read you. Let me read you
a couple of these things. I don't care. I don't care.
I'm not touring, so I don't care if I even
run a joke. But one of the jokes is if
I really, if I say it exactly as, it's not
gonna play. So I talk about like being allergic to
dairy and being from the South is like being a cowboy.
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I talk about it, I'm allergic to dairy, and then
I say, I need like my notes because I haven't
even practiced these and I'm gonna go up there to
do it tomorrow. How I'm lactose and tolerant. Being allergic
to cheese and being from the South, it's like being
a cowboy allergic to his horse. Like yeah, it's that
kind of vibe. And it was like I used to
take great pride in not being allergic to anything. Now
he just slice of pizza. My body shuts down like
it's filing for bankruptcy. So I do I wrote all
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these jokes, right. I used to say no allergies like
it was a personality trade. Now I'm the one asking
if there's hidden gee's like it's a lactose ghost haunting
my enchiladas. So it's a lot of that type stuff.
But I never I just can't do a bunch of it.
I can only like pick one my best hope and
then pray it works, because if it doesn't, I got
to pivot out of all of it because I don't
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feel as confident in the rest of them, and I
can't go You can't miss two or three in a row.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Do you go in with a backup plan if you
have the pivot.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Or my backup plan is to go to jokes I
know work and so if it doesn't work, because inevitably
when you do new jokes, some of them don't. Some
of them won't work. But it's not because the jokes
are about always. Sometimes it is. Mostly it's because you
didn't like pause at the right time. There's some wreplay,
maybe you stumbled or the crowd. It really is that.
But I did one where I was talking about fantasy
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Football's why I bring this up because my wife will
have her friends over and they will plan a night
where they talk with intention, like a purpose, like they
just are going to connec act like she'll have a
friend come over and they'll sit in a living in
for like two hours and talk about, you know, how
you're really doing. But if we do that, that's weird.
And so we have ways to do it. And I've talked
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about this on the show, like I can't call up
Eddie be like hey man, Thursday, seven pm, want to
come over and feel some stuff, and then how good
that's a good one. Okay, good, thanks, And I'm like,
so instead we have to like sneak in emotions like
through a side door and we'll be like talking about
fantasy football and'll be like, hey man, I'll trade your
Travis Kelsey for Saquon Barkley. And also, my dad never
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told me he was proud.
Speaker 9 (49:32):
Of me, so yes, right, it's true, And like I've
talked about that for a long time and even in
that way, but I've never written a joke about it.
But what's tricky about that is I'll be and I
would love to try to the operator because I'm not touring.
But if they don't laugh at that, I think it's
just because it's not a fantasy football group, because that's
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a sports thing. If I'm like, I'll trade your Travis
Kelsey and Saquon Barkley also your dad ever hug you.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
You know, I think.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
If they don't get the kels in Saquon of it, yeah,
they're not gonna even appreciate the joke, and not even
that it's the greatest joke ever written. And the reason
I'm talking about this is the Shane Gilli stuff like
that's like super inspiring to see him go up and
people be mad at him and keep going. But also
I'm playing the operat this week, and so yeah that
I wrote. Any I can't do a whole new set
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up there because I won't because I'll go up and
it'll just be a nightmare. I'll be forgetting stuff jokes
will miss. But I'm probably gonna throw in a couple
of new ones like that. You think I should the
fantsy football one or they won't get it.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
I like the Fantasy football one.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
I think there'll be plenty of guys in there that
I'll understand that.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, I have a joke that I probably won't do
because I don't think it will be received well. Or
I talk about how lactose intolerance, like I deserve a
handycap sticker. And then I go, you know what, because
I talk about it being covered by the eightya, but
I don't even I think that's too inside it. That's
the America's disabilityetah. I said, Okay, but if I don't
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get a handy gap sticker, maybe I should just get
preferred parking at pizza places.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
You see what I'm saying, and you know the crowd there.
But all of that, all of this stuff, because I
have this, these are all the jokes I've written, right, Wow,
all of that jokes. I would have to go out
for like three months and do all them seventeen times
in order to feel what is exactly right?
Speaker 5 (51:19):
What's your time slot?
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Like?
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Do they tell you everybody has twelve minutes?
Speaker 5 (51:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Like everybody has twelve minutes a long time. But I
do have my guitar as well. And what I've done
in the past is I just take it up there
and I've played the before and never even played it.
Like I walked up with it. That's awesome, and I
just everything was working so right, and I never went
to the guitar because the jokes were just crushing, and
I think people were like, why didn't he have his
guitar on. He never went to it.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
I ever sang a song.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
It is it is.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
You like like you should like strum act.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
You're going back to the problem is I'm trying to
remember jokes man, Like I'm doing all that I did
at the very and be like, oh, yeah, I had
this car. I guess I never played and then, but
that wasn't the joke. I had to get tar in
case you should do that with the other interments, like
you just woke out with a tuba. Like I'm just
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holding a trombone the whole time and I never even
get to it.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
That's pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
I wanted I'll wrap on this, but I wanted to
do this segment I say want it. I never actually
tried to do it because of the dedication it would take.
And I think I mentioned it in a couple of
interviews with artists where I wanted to go up and
be a part of the band and not have my
instrument plugged in. But like, let's say they gave me
a trump Like I went up with a trombone and
I got in Zach Brown's band. I never said I
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was in it. Heck, I can wear a mustache or whatever,
and we just recorded from the crowd, me just faking
the trombone like crazy. Not so much as stealing the show,
not so much, but just just being in the band,
faking it and like feeling it right, just feeling it
even for a song, like I think that would be
so funny.
Speaker 5 (52:52):
But you gotta find the right artist to let you
do that.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
I have a few friends that would let me do it.
Oh yeah, but I don't want to the money to go.
I'll give you. I don't want to pay the money
to fly and that that three minute bit, it's gonna
cost like eight hundred.
Speaker 5 (53:05):
Dollars a day. That's funny though.
Speaker 7 (53:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
So there was another now I'm just doing this, but
there was another bit to our till Dady I said, hey, man,
we should do we should go and open for an
artist and not say it's us, not with guitars and
like sing acapella, nobody knows it's us. We try so
hard to sing the biggest song, like we go when
we try to eddell songs, we're trying as hard as
we can, never mind, and and they're like, we are
(53:28):
literally trying.
Speaker 5 (53:29):
Like trying our best.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yes, but it'll never be good and it's all Whitney
Houston adele, even with the backing track. But we can
play like karaoke track and we only have like twelve minutes.
But we go out and just try as hard as
we can. We don't shy away from it. We attack
it and then we're like, thank you, get and just
see what we have Cameras on the crowd the whole time.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
See this is where you're obsession with making people uncomfortable,
seeing how long it can last.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Yeah, as a comedian, that's why I didn't put that together.
But yes, but that's perfect.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
But that's a great way because nobody's ever well I'm
not nobody has ever done that, but something like that
I would shallow.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yes, And I say it again, we're not trying to
be bad. We're actually trying as good as we can.
But we're also really trying. Because you can hide from it,
sha la la la, and you can be like, oh,
that's a C plus. But if we're like, we gotta
do that, it would be so fun. I just don't
(54:22):
want to pay hundred dollars to get out to some city.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
I found a tube on Facebook Marketplace. I'll go get it.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
All right. Thank you guys. Now we can hit the
music again. We will see you guys Monday, Monday special guest.
You want to tell.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
Him Heisman Hopeful.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Oh that's good. You slowed out one.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
You can say it is Diego band quarterback.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
He will be in Monday. We just finished the interview
and they brought me a helmet yeah baal, a real
helmet and he signed it.
Speaker 5 (54:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeah, it was awesome. Uh So that'll be Monday. Up
you guys, have a great weekend. We'll see you guys
by everybody.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Hollo Eddie.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's Me and performed
by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports.
Thanks to our crew co host AT, producer Ddy, Segment
producer at Kickoff Kevin and executive producer AT Mike Diestro.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
We'll talk to you next time here on twenty five
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