February 21, 2021 • 18 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, Bobby Bones here. Thank you for listening to
(00:02):
the Bobby Bones Show podcast. It's the weekend, obviously, so
there is no live radio show today, but I wanted
to hop on and share an episode of one of
our podcasts from the Nashville Podcast Network. Then maybe you
haven't checked out yet. It's from Kaylee Shore. She's an artist.
She's you know, a millennial. It's called too Much to
Say because she definitely has a lot to say all
the time. In this episode, she's talking about the new
(00:24):
Britney Spears documentary on Hulu. She breaks down the whole thing.
It talks about what we can learn from how media
and its viewers treated Britney Spears, but also how it
applies to everyone else, not just celebrities. She's a pretty
bold perspective. That's why I like this show. And she's
not afraid to speak her mind. So you'll hear that
in her podcast and in her music, So check it out.
I think you'll like her music as well. So I'm
(00:45):
gonna play this. If you do like it, go over
to it subscribe. She's a brand new podcast. If you
like it, go over to her podcast and write her
a review that would actually help her so much in
building this podcast. So we just appreciate you. Guys. You
can subscribe on iHeartRadio or Apple podcast or wherever you
get your podcasts. Just search too much to say with
Kaylee Shore. Here's the episode. Now, Hey guys, I'm Kaylee Shore,
(01:07):
and this is too much to say it out you, okay. So,
like the rest of the world, I spent this past
(01:27):
weekend watching Framing Britney, the documentary by The New York
Times that was on Hulu. Highly recommend. It's incredibly eye opening,
and I'm going to focus on just a couple different
parts of it. This whole episode isn't about Britney Spears,
but she is the perfect example of what the media
does two young women, whether they're famous or not. To
be completely honest, I was old enough to know what
(01:50):
was going on with Britney Spears from you know, the
kind of tumultuous time between two thousand and five and
two thousand and seven, but I wasn't old enough to
really know how big of a deal it was that
she was just this joke to everybody. And there's this
really a poignant scene in the documentary where Britney is
(02:13):
a question on the Family Feud game show, and the
question is things Britney Spears has lost, and one of
them is her hair, one of them is her mind,
and one of them is her husband. And that was
a joke that the live audience was laughing at, as
if Britney Spears isn't a real person. And to be
completely honest, like watching this it felt like I was
watching a Black Mirror episode. But then I remember that
(02:36):
this was just a couple, you know, fifteen years ago,
not even There's crazy moments like where this interviewer who's
an adult man is talking to her while she's a
teenager and says everyone's talking about her breast, then wonders
why she seems to get furious when a talk show
host comes up with this subject. That's literally what the
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viewers ad verbatim. It's insane. And there was just this
massive sexist like interpretation of Brittany. And yes, like her
songs were sexual, her music videos are sexual. She didn't
write or direct those, which is also important to know.
But also there's nothing wrong with wanting to be sexual
as a woman and portray yourself like that. And she
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actually was like a very like, well mannered classy, beautiful,
intelligent young girl, and it's just judging a book by
its cover. It's outdated, it's boring, and it's usually inaccurate.
There's crazy moments with the paparazzi where you see them
following her around doing the craziest stuff. They're just on
(03:39):
her back twenty four seven. And of course you're going
to break at some point. I mean, that's just I
can't imagine ever going through something like that. And paparazzi
are still a thing these days. But now we have
social media, which is both a good and a bad thing.
It means that you can control your own narrative a
lot easier. So you're not getting these splashy tabloid headlines
(04:00):
saying something. You're actually being able to say it yourself.
So it's like, you know, if the headline is like
messy divorced, Britney cheats blah blah blah blah, it's like
you've probably already posted about it and said what happened.
But at the same time, like, we don't have the
tabloid culture that we used to, but we have Internet rolls,
and we have commenters, and we have people with opinions
(04:22):
and so the interviewers and the tabloid writers and the
paparazzi saying all these terrible things about Bertie Spears. They
now just live in the comments and anybody can be
that guy. I mean, my good friend Perez Hilton was
featured on the documentary as well, and I mean, he's
talked very publicly about how he is not proud of
(04:43):
the way he treated people back then when he was
a gossip blogger, you know, And I think that that's
you know, he's he's done a lot of growth and
a lot of remorse for the way he treated people.
But just to use this example, everybody can be Perez Hilton. Now,
everybody can be two thousand and seven Prett Hilton and
just voice your opinion and make a YouTube video and
just put it out there and say all these negative
(05:04):
things about people. And on a smaller scale, it's kind
of how social media works with high schools as well.
Like even when I was in high school, I was
probably like part of the first group of kids who
had social media from middle school on. And I remember
I think I got my first MySpace account when I
was like in six or seventh grade, and everybody was
(05:26):
on Facebook by eighth grade, like you had a Facebook.
Every single person did, and so that was a really
weird adjustment because everybody like there was this thing called
form Spring. I don't know if you guys remember that,
and it doesn't seem to be something that many people did.
I don't know if it was just my school. But
it was like an anonymous question site. So you had
your profile, it was just your picture and like a
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very short bio, and then people could submit questions and
they could either have their name on them or they
could be anonymous. And the anonymous ones were where it
got really bad. Actually, the ones where it got really
bad was where the person forgot to click anonymous, and
so you saw but the name of who it was,
and a lot of times it would be like somebody
asking a question about themselves to someone else and then
they leave their name and it's just so so hilarious. Kids.
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Kids cannot be trusted with social media. But that form
Spring website operated kind of like a gossip blog for
the teenagers at my high school. And also we had
legitimate gossip pages on Facebook that would be like anonymous,
like during high school gossip, and then it would be
like this, so and so broke up and this person
did this over the weekend, and it was all like
really fucked up. But I mean, I remember this one rumor.
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Oh my god, I don't even know I'm sharing this,
but just so you understand the gravity of what this
website was doing, I this is like one of the
most fucked up things ever. But I was in tenth grade,
I think, and I had started talking to this guy
and he was black, and we had a thing for
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like a little bit. It didn't last very long. I
wrote a song about it, posted on YouTube whatever, and
then I guess like a week or so later, because
it's high school, that's what you do, I started flirting
with this other guy who just so happened to be black.
I just I just didn't think anything of it. I
just like, I personally just like hot people. I don't
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really discriminate. I just like hot people. That's my type.
And I remember getting a question on form spring that
was like do you have jungle fever, which is like
so fucked up. And that didn't hurt my feelings nearly
as much as it must have hurt those those guys feelings.
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And then that became a whole thing. So I came
back to school after winter break, and like everybody was
saying that I had jungle fever. And then the you know,
me talking separately to two different guys ended up being
this like really weird rumor that I got drunk and
had a threesome with them at a party and I
was like, oh my god, I haven't even seen a
(08:00):
penis in person yet, Like what are you talking about?
And like then that became a huge rumor, and like
I went back to school and people were talking about
it as if it happened, and I was like just
high school tabloids. Like that's what social media is so
adjusting to that. You know, there's always been rumors, There's
always been stuff like that, but it was just so
much more prevalent as soon as social media got involved.
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And really just I mean it made me feel so
terrible and I was being slut shamed for something I
hadn't even done, and like it was just horrifying, And
people were able to say this anonymously until like I'll
never know who it was who was saying those things.
I definitely have my guesses. I mean, it doesn't matter,
it was so long ago now, but oh it's definitely bullying,
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but it's also different than bullying because it's like just
a culture and when you're going to a school where
everybody's being that mean to each other, it's really hard
to not get caught up in it. And I've definitely
treated some people in high school, like you know, in
ways that I'm proud of. I don't think that I
was ever truly a bully. I think I've always had
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a little bit of a moral compass when it comes
to that, and just I've been an outsider a lot
of my life, so I think that I have a
certain degree of empathy when it comes to people. But
it's really hard to not get caught up in the
ship talking when it's like the entire culture. And to
that same point, it's hard to not get caught up
in shit talking celebrities. So when everybody had turned against
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Britney Spears, everybody continued to turn against Britney Spears, and
it was like this big joke and everybody's like, oh
my god, I'm gonna shave my head like that. That
was the punchline, was like talking about this thing that
was clearly some sort of mental break for Britney Spears
and it just makes me so sad. Watching the documentary
is really eye opening, and you know, seeing this massive
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pop star but being able to relate tells you how
this is not a problem isolated to celebrities. It's just
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a think before you speak thing, you know. And I've
tried as I've gotten more followers and read more comments
and had more things come out about me, whether they're
true or not, you know, just reading stuff I probably
shouldn't read as much on the Internet as I do,
but it's definitely made me think twice before I share
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an opinion of a celebrity because you're like, oh, they're
a real person. There's somebody on the other end of
that Instagram when you're commenting, and it's just the stuff
I see on like I feel like on TikTok, especially
because I feel like the comment section is so active there.
There's some things where I'm just like, why did you
need to say that? Like why did you look at
this video and be like, oh my god, you know
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what I need to do. I need to say this.
This is going to do something, This is going to
get a reaction. I don't like my life motto is
to what end? Like what am I trying to get
out of this, and so when it comes to a
comment like that, it's like, to what end do you
want like a couple of people to start an argument
with you? And the comments, like there's this one comment
that I think that people comment on TikTok a lot
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when they see a video going viral for the wrong reasons,
and people will comment and say, you know, it's I
think it honestly gets commy and pasted, but it's very important,
and they're like, your comment last ten seconds in your head,
but like it'll last forever in hers, so be careful
what you're saying to people. And then there's also this
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thing that I see a lot with girls being nice
to other girls, where like if something like that happens,
a bunch of girls will just comment like compliments on
the comment page, so all the mean ones get pushed
to the bottom and you can't see them anymore. And
there's this one girl that I follow on TikTok and
we started talking back and forth, but she's disabled and
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posted a video that was like just kidding, like it
was just her singing along to a song and like
doing it was like a relax your face and you know,
we'll see what your psycho face looks like or something
like that. Like it was just so stupid, and she
did it, and people were just like making fun of
her teeth and like just being completely awful, saying all
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these terrible jokes. And I commented on it and said
something nice to her because she was wearing like really
cool black lipstick, and I was like, oh my god,
I wish I had the nerve to wear a black lipstick.
I wish I could wear it more often, like sometimes
I'm like a little too nervous. And then she followed
me and we started talking back and forth, and she's
so sweet and so smart, and her perspective as a
disabled girl getting cyberbolin was so much more enlightened than
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you would expect somebody who's the victim of that to be. Like,
she had every right to be so angry because the
things people were making fun of her forward things that
she had zero control over. I mean, that is one
of the most fucked up things you can make fun
of people for. That was the moment that I like
truly completely lost respect for Donald Trump, was when he
made fun of that disabled journalist. It's just inexcusable and
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I don't know how you can make you can justify
something like that. So for her to be dealing with
the worst kind of hate, the most hateful kind of hate,
and still be the bigger person, it was really inspiring.
And I mean her video, I think it got like
a million views or something like that, Like there were
a lot of comments. And that's also another thing about
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social media is everybody can be a celebrity. Everybody can
get a million views on a video randomly. I mean
I literally had that happen a couple weeks ago, and
I had people trying to find out who Amy was
and the comments and doing all this stuff trying to
track her down. You know, I feel like most people
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were I don't want to say on my side that
feels down, but like most people understood why I wrote
the song and didn't think I did anything wrong. But
there were some people who were just like really rude
about it, and you know, saying stuff like I was
just mad because my ex boyfriend didn't want me. I'm like, okay,
well you want to read the text because I think
you're wrong. But it's just so weird, like anybody can
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be a celebrity for five minutes on social media and
you're just under so much scrutiny, and god, anybody can
can feel that what Britney felt, but on you know,
a much smaller scale. It just makes me so sad
because so many girls my age, like we grew up
listening to her and we loved her so much, and
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everybody loved her. I mean, she's America's sweetheart. And then
you wonder why Taylor Swift felt so much pressure to
be so fucking perfect all the time, and then people
ended up hating her because she was like, quote unquote
little misperfect. Taylor Swift was terrified because she thought what
was going to happen to the chicks would happen to her,
where if she talked about politics, she would completely you know,
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be blacklisted. And then she saw what happened to Britney Spears,
where Brittany had to talk about being a virgin, have
all this like weird, Like that should never be a
question you're asking anybody, much less a teenage girl, how
fucking weird. And then there was that whole thing with
Miley Cyrus and the Jones Brothers and Demovotle Selena Gomez
where everybody had purity rings and I do remember seeing
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this really great Taylor Swift quote in her first Rolling
Stone cover and she was like, you know, they were
asking her if she had a purity ring, which is
just so fucking weird. She was like literally like eighteen
years old, seventeen maybe, and she was like, yeah, I
prefer not to talk about it either way, because I
just don't want anyone picturing me naked and talking to
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a teenager about not having sex and asking them if
they do where they don't. It's just effect up about
like making them answer questions about being sexually active, like
it's just not your business. And oh, I mean, virginity
is a came in construct anyways, it doesn't not even real.
Don't even get me started. But I highly recommend you
go watch the Britney Spears documentary. It'll really open your
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eyes to a lot of different things, not just her plight.
And also I haven't even touched on the fact if
her conservatorship, which with her father, which is just insane,
and that's like the point of the documentary. But I figured,
you know, it's best for you guys to hear that
story from The New York Times. This is just an
opinion piece on how we've treated Brittany and people on
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social media and in tabloids, etcetera, etce. But highly recommend
you go check it out. It'll give you a lot
of perspective on her situation, but also just a lot
of perspective on how we treat people. And I think
that there's a lot of room for improvement there. I
think that after watching that, I want to be a
lot kinder, even just in the thoughts I think to
myself when I'm scrolling on Instagram and I see an
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Instagram model and her face just annoys me, you know,
like I don't know why that happens. When I'm just like,
oh my god, that person's so annoying, Like why do
I think that? Why do I think I have the
right to think that about somebody? I don't know. So
it's just kind of controlling your own thoughts and and
staying positive. I find something really wonderful to do when
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I'm just even kind of depressed in general, is every
person I come across, I try to find something to
compliment them on. And you notice something about them, whether
it's their eyes or their hair or their outfit, or
you know, something I saw them doing for somebody else
that was really kind and they didn't think anybody was
looking and just looking for the best in everybody. And
there are some people where you probably won't find anything,
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and that's okay because you can just run the other way.
Thank you guys so much for listening. My name is
Kaylie Shore. I know that I had promised you last
week a very juicy episode this week, however, I had
to push a couple things around, so that's going to
be next week. Stay tuned to my social media. I
have a big announcement. I'm recording this episode on Tuesday,
so I don't know if I'll be announcing it by
the time this episode's out or not, but we'll see.
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Thank you guys so much. Big news coming soon. Also,
you might want to follow me on Spotify because then
you're good. Get on your release where you are in
the event I was releasing a song I don't know anyways,
hope you guys have a good day. Names Kailly Shure
And this is too much to say, but don't go
ask me questions you don't answer. Soon I got to
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us say now't turn it out of you. You
Hey guys, Bobby Bones here. Thank you for listening to
(00:02):
the Bobby Bones Show podcast. It's the weekend, obviously, so
there is no live radio show today, but I wanted
to hop on and share an episode of one of
our podcasts from the Nashville Podcast Network. Then maybe you
haven't checked out yet. It's from Kaylee Shore. She's an artist.
She's you know, a millennial. It's called too Much to
Say because she definitely has a lot to say all
the time. In this episode, she's talking about the new
(00:24):
Britney Spears documentary on Hulu. She breaks down the whole thing.
It talks about what we can learn from how media
and its viewers treated Britney Spears, but also how it
applies to everyone else, not just celebrities. She's a pretty
bold perspective. That's why I like this show. And she's
not afraid to speak her mind. So you'll hear that
in her podcast and in her music, So check it out.
I think you'll like her music as well. So I'm
(00:45):
gonna play this. If you do like it, go over
to it subscribe. She's a brand new podcast. If you
like it, go over to her podcast and write her
a review that would actually help her so much in
building this podcast. So we just appreciate you. Guys. You
can subscribe on iHeartRadio or Apple podcast or wherever you
get your podcasts. Just search too much to say with
Kaylee Shore. Here's the episode. Now, Hey guys, I'm Kaylee Shore,
(01:07):
and this is too much to say it out you, okay. So,
like the rest of the world, I spent this past
(01:27):
weekend watching Framing Britney, the documentary by The New York
Times that was on Hulu. Highly recommend. It's incredibly eye opening,
and I'm going to focus on just a couple different
parts of it. This whole episode isn't about Britney Spears,
but she is the perfect example of what the media
does two young women, whether they're famous or not. To
be completely honest, I was old enough to know what
(01:50):
was going on with Britney Spears from you know, the
kind of tumultuous time between two thousand and five and
two thousand and seven, but I wasn't old enough to
really know how big of a deal it was that
she was just this joke to everybody. And there's this
really a poignant scene in the documentary where Britney is
(02:13):
a question on the Family Feud game show, and the
question is things Britney Spears has lost, and one of
them is her hair, one of them is her mind,
and one of them is her husband. And that was
a joke that the live audience was laughing at, as
if Britney Spears isn't a real person. And to be
completely honest, like watching this it felt like I was
watching a Black Mirror episode. But then I remember that
(02:36):
this was just a couple, you know, fifteen years ago,
not even There's crazy moments like where this interviewer who's
an adult man is talking to her while she's a
teenager and says everyone's talking about her breast, then wonders
why she seems to get furious when a talk show
host comes up with this subject. That's literally what the
(02:57):
viewers ad verbatim. It's insane. And there was just this
massive sexist like interpretation of Brittany. And yes, like her
songs were sexual, her music videos are sexual. She didn't
write or direct those, which is also important to know.
But also there's nothing wrong with wanting to be sexual
as a woman and portray yourself like that. And she
(03:19):
actually was like a very like, well mannered classy, beautiful,
intelligent young girl, and it's just judging a book by
its cover. It's outdated, it's boring, and it's usually inaccurate.
There's crazy moments with the paparazzi where you see them
following her around doing the craziest stuff. They're just on
(03:39):
her back twenty four seven. And of course you're going
to break at some point. I mean, that's just I
can't imagine ever going through something like that. And paparazzi
are still a thing these days. But now we have
social media, which is both a good and a bad thing.
It means that you can control your own narrative a
lot easier. So you're not getting these splashy tabloid headlines
(04:00):
saying something. You're actually being able to say it yourself.
So it's like, you know, if the headline is like
messy divorced, Britney cheats blah blah blah blah, it's like
you've probably already posted about it and said what happened.
But at the same time, like, we don't have the
tabloid culture that we used to, but we have Internet rolls,
and we have commenters, and we have people with opinions
(04:22):
and so the interviewers and the tabloid writers and the
paparazzi saying all these terrible things about Bertie Spears. They
now just live in the comments and anybody can be
that guy. I mean, my good friend Perez Hilton was
featured on the documentary as well, and I mean, he's
talked very publicly about how he is not proud of
(04:43):
the way he treated people back then when he was
a gossip blogger, you know, And I think that that's
you know, he's he's done a lot of growth and
a lot of remorse for the way he treated people.
But just to use this example, everybody can be Perez Hilton. Now,
everybody can be two thousand and seven Prett Hilton and
just voice your opinion and make a YouTube video and
just put it out there and say all these negative
(05:04):
things about people. And on a smaller scale, it's kind
of how social media works with high schools as well.
Like even when I was in high school, I was
probably like part of the first group of kids who
had social media from middle school on. And I remember
I think I got my first MySpace account when I
was like in six or seventh grade, and everybody was
(05:26):
on Facebook by eighth grade, like you had a Facebook.
Every single person did, and so that was a really
weird adjustment because everybody like there was this thing called
form Spring. I don't know if you guys remember that,
and it doesn't seem to be something that many people did.
I don't know if it was just my school. But
it was like an anonymous question site. So you had
your profile, it was just your picture and like a
(05:47):
very short bio, and then people could submit questions and
they could either have their name on them or they
could be anonymous. And the anonymous ones were where it
got really bad. Actually, the ones where it got really
bad was where the person forgot to click anonymous, and
so you saw but the name of who it was,
and a lot of times it would be like somebody
asking a question about themselves to someone else and then
they leave their name and it's just so so hilarious. Kids.
(06:11):
Kids cannot be trusted with social media. But that form
Spring website operated kind of like a gossip blog for
the teenagers at my high school. And also we had
legitimate gossip pages on Facebook that would be like anonymous,
like during high school gossip, and then it would be
like this, so and so broke up and this person
did this over the weekend, and it was all like
really fucked up. But I mean, I remember this one rumor.
(06:35):
Oh my god, I don't even know I'm sharing this,
but just so you understand the gravity of what this
website was doing, I this is like one of the
most fucked up things ever. But I was in tenth grade,
I think, and I had started talking to this guy
and he was black, and we had a thing for
(06:57):
like a little bit. It didn't last very long. I
wrote a song about it, posted on YouTube whatever, and
then I guess like a week or so later, because
it's high school, that's what you do, I started flirting
with this other guy who just so happened to be black.
I just I just didn't think anything of it. I
just like, I personally just like hot people. I don't
(07:20):
really discriminate. I just like hot people. That's my type.
And I remember getting a question on form spring that
was like do you have jungle fever, which is like
so fucked up. And that didn't hurt my feelings nearly
as much as it must have hurt those those guys feelings.
(07:40):
And then that became a whole thing. So I came
back to school after winter break, and like everybody was
saying that I had jungle fever. And then the you know,
me talking separately to two different guys ended up being
this like really weird rumor that I got drunk and
had a threesome with them at a party and I
was like, oh my god, I haven't even seen a
(08:00):
penis in person yet, Like what are you talking about?
And like then that became a huge rumor, and like
I went back to school and people were talking about
it as if it happened, and I was like just
high school tabloids. Like that's what social media is so
adjusting to that. You know, there's always been rumors, There's
always been stuff like that, but it was just so
much more prevalent as soon as social media got involved.
(08:21):
And really just I mean it made me feel so
terrible and I was being slut shamed for something I
hadn't even done, and like it was just horrifying, And
people were able to say this anonymously until like I'll
never know who it was who was saying those things.
I definitely have my guesses. I mean, it doesn't matter,
it was so long ago now, but oh it's definitely bullying,
(08:44):
but it's also different than bullying because it's like just
a culture and when you're going to a school where
everybody's being that mean to each other, it's really hard
to not get caught up in it. And I've definitely
treated some people in high school, like you know, in
ways that I'm proud of. I don't think that I
was ever truly a bully. I think I've always had
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a little bit of a moral compass when it comes
to that, and just I've been an outsider a lot
of my life, so I think that I have a
certain degree of empathy when it comes to people. But
it's really hard to not get caught up in the
ship talking when it's like the entire culture. And to
that same point, it's hard to not get caught up
in shit talking celebrities. So when everybody had turned against
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Britney Spears, everybody continued to turn against Britney Spears, and
it was like this big joke and everybody's like, oh
my god, I'm gonna shave my head like that. That
was the punchline, was like talking about this thing that
was clearly some sort of mental break for Britney Spears
and it just makes me so sad. Watching the documentary
is really eye opening, and you know, seeing this massive
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pop star but being able to relate tells you how
this is not a problem isolated to celebrities. It's just
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a think before you speak thing, you know. And I've
tried as I've gotten more followers and read more comments
and had more things come out about me, whether they're
true or not, you know, just reading stuff I probably
shouldn't read as much on the Internet as I do,
but it's definitely made me think twice before I share
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an opinion of a celebrity because you're like, oh, they're
a real person. There's somebody on the other end of
that Instagram when you're commenting, and it's just the stuff
I see on like I feel like on TikTok, especially
because I feel like the comment section is so active there.
There's some things where I'm just like, why did you
need to say that? Like why did you look at
this video and be like, oh my god, you know
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what I need to do. I need to say this.
This is going to do something, This is going to
get a reaction. I don't like my life motto is
to what end? Like what am I trying to get
out of this, and so when it comes to a
comment like that, it's like, to what end do you
want like a couple of people to start an argument
with you? And the comments, like there's this one comment
that I think that people comment on TikTok a lot
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when they see a video going viral for the wrong reasons,
and people will comment and say, you know, it's I
think it honestly gets commy and pasted, but it's very important,
and they're like, your comment last ten seconds in your head,
but like it'll last forever in hers, so be careful
what you're saying to people. And then there's also this
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thing that I see a lot with girls being nice
to other girls, where like if something like that happens,
a bunch of girls will just comment like compliments on
the comment page, so all the mean ones get pushed
to the bottom and you can't see them anymore. And
there's this one girl that I follow on TikTok and
we started talking back and forth, but she's disabled and
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posted a video that was like just kidding, like it
was just her singing along to a song and like
doing it was like a relax your face and you know,
we'll see what your psycho face looks like or something
like that. Like it was just so stupid, and she
did it, and people were just like making fun of
her teeth and like just being completely awful, saying all
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these terrible jokes. And I commented on it and said
something nice to her because she was wearing like really
cool black lipstick, and I was like, oh my god,
I wish I had the nerve to wear a black lipstick.
I wish I could wear it more often, like sometimes
I'm like a little too nervous. And then she followed
me and we started talking back and forth, and she's
so sweet and so smart, and her perspective as a
disabled girl getting cyberbolin was so much more enlightened than
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you would expect somebody who's the victim of that to be. Like,
she had every right to be so angry because the
things people were making fun of her forward things that
she had zero control over. I mean, that is one
of the most fucked up things you can make fun
of people for. That was the moment that I like
truly completely lost respect for Donald Trump, was when he
made fun of that disabled journalist. It's just inexcusable and
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I don't know how you can make you can justify
something like that. So for her to be dealing with
the worst kind of hate, the most hateful kind of hate,
and still be the bigger person, it was really inspiring.
And I mean her video, I think it got like
a million views or something like that, Like there were
a lot of comments. And that's also another thing about
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social media is everybody can be a celebrity. Everybody can
get a million views on a video randomly. I mean
I literally had that happen a couple weeks ago, and
I had people trying to find out who Amy was
and the comments and doing all this stuff trying to
track her down. You know, I feel like most people
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were I don't want to say on my side that
feels down, but like most people understood why I wrote
the song and didn't think I did anything wrong. But
there were some people who were just like really rude
about it, and you know, saying stuff like I was
just mad because my ex boyfriend didn't want me. I'm like, okay,
well you want to read the text because I think
you're wrong. But it's just so weird, like anybody can
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be a celebrity for five minutes on social media and
you're just under so much scrutiny, and god, anybody can
can feel that what Britney felt, but on you know,
a much smaller scale. It just makes me so sad
because so many girls my age, like we grew up
listening to her and we loved her so much, and
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everybody loved her. I mean, she's America's sweetheart. And then
you wonder why Taylor Swift felt so much pressure to
be so fucking perfect all the time, and then people
ended up hating her because she was like, quote unquote
little misperfect. Taylor Swift was terrified because she thought what
was going to happen to the chicks would happen to her,
where if she talked about politics, she would completely you know,
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be blacklisted. And then she saw what happened to Britney Spears,
where Brittany had to talk about being a virgin, have
all this like weird, Like that should never be a
question you're asking anybody, much less a teenage girl, how
fucking weird. And then there was that whole thing with
Miley Cyrus and the Jones Brothers and Demovotle Selena Gomez
where everybody had purity rings and I do remember seeing
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this really great Taylor Swift quote in her first Rolling
Stone cover and she was like, you know, they were
asking her if she had a purity ring, which is
just so fucking weird. She was like literally like eighteen
years old, seventeen maybe, and she was like, yeah, I
prefer not to talk about it either way, because I
just don't want anyone picturing me naked and talking to
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a teenager about not having sex and asking them if
they do where they don't. It's just effect up about
like making them answer questions about being sexually active, like
it's just not your business. And oh, I mean, virginity
is a came in construct anyways, it doesn't not even real.
Don't even get me started. But I highly recommend you
go watch the Britney Spears documentary. It'll really open your
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eyes to a lot of different things, not just her plight.
And also I haven't even touched on the fact if
her conservatorship, which with her father, which is just insane,
and that's like the point of the documentary. But I figured,
you know, it's best for you guys to hear that
story from The New York Times. This is just an
opinion piece on how we've treated Brittany and people on
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social media and in tabloids, etcetera, etce. But highly recommend
you go check it out. It'll give you a lot
of perspective on her situation, but also just a lot
of perspective on how we treat people. And I think
that there's a lot of room for improvement there. I
think that after watching that, I want to be a
lot kinder, even just in the thoughts I think to
myself when I'm scrolling on Instagram and I see an
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Instagram model and her face just annoys me, you know,
like I don't know why that happens. When I'm just like,
oh my god, that person's so annoying, Like why do
I think that? Why do I think I have the
right to think that about somebody? I don't know. So
it's just kind of controlling your own thoughts and and
staying positive. I find something really wonderful to do when
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I'm just even kind of depressed in general, is every
person I come across, I try to find something to
compliment them on. And you notice something about them, whether
it's their eyes or their hair or their outfit, or
you know, something I saw them doing for somebody else
that was really kind and they didn't think anybody was
looking and just looking for the best in everybody. And
there are some people where you probably won't find anything,
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and that's okay because you can just run the other way.
Thank you guys so much for listening. My name is
Kaylie Shore. I know that I had promised you last
week a very juicy episode this week, however, I had
to push a couple things around, so that's going to
be next week. Stay tuned to my social media. I
have a big announcement. I'm recording this episode on Tuesday,
so I don't know if I'll be announcing it by
the time this episode's out or not, but we'll see.
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Thank you guys so much. Big news coming soon. Also,
you might want to follow me on Spotify because then
you're good. Get on your release where you are in
the event I was releasing a song I don't know anyways,
hope you guys have a good day. Names Kailly Shure
And this is too much to say, but don't go
ask me questions you don't answer. Soon I got to
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us say now't turn it out of you. You
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