November 1, 2025 • 23 mins
Morgan and Amy answer listener questions. Shoutouts to start, then we get into upcoming holiday plans, if there are new PIMPINJOY shirts coming, how Amy’s kitchen remodel turned out, and her eyelash routine. Then, we get into how premenopausal is impacting Amy and if one ever fully recovers from an eating disorder.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The best bits of the week with Morgan.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's listener Q and daytime.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're Morgan in a show member answer almost all your questions.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
It is time for some listener questions and Amy answers.
Are you ready, Amy?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes? Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
We got shout outs to start. Love y'all on the show,
and love both of your podcasts. Y'all are crushing it.
That is from Kate in Arizona. Thanks Kate, super sweet.
Shout out love you girlies. You both bring such good
energy to the show. This is from Leah and Pennsylvania,
two of the prettiest girls. It's from Dana.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh, thanks very sweet.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You both are my favorites. It's from Huddo in Texas.
And then Carla from Kansas hopes to meet both of
us on the Bobby Bone Show cruise, which I think
will probably happen.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, we're gonna meet everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We're gonna be walking around everywhere, so definitely can happen. Carla,
all right, first question Michelle and Texas, what are your
upcoming holiday plans?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't know yet. I mean Thanksgiving I will be.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Home and we'll in Nashville with the kids and doing
Thanksgiving with my boyfriend and his family, so we'll be
with then they have like lots of people. So he's
from Nashville, so there's lots of people involved. And then
he always celebrates it with his wife's she's his I
mean she passed away, so still his wife, but her
(01:19):
family too, Okay, so they cut her.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
She has a transister.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, last year they all came over to his dad's house,
but this year he's like, I think I want to
do it at my house. So and he lives like
right around the corner from his dad, So I don't
know it. Who knows where we'll end up. I'm not
too worried about it. I'm trying to get my sister
and her family to come, and then it would just
be this huge party that would be so fun.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh that would be fun.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, we'll see if that actually happens. And then Christmas,
I have no idea. I got to figure that out,
just winging it right normally Colorado, but I don't know.
I got to figure it out with my kids, like
what they want to do, and then talk to Ben
see because he'll like Christmas s takeris this is two weeks,
Like he'll have them one week and I have them
the other and normally we swap in Colorado at least
we have the last couple of years, and this year,
(02:07):
I don't know if he's for sure going to go,
so then we kind of need to coordinate that.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I have a lot more plans. And this year, will
you potentially spend Christmas at all with your boyfriend and
his family?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Well, I don't have Since I have the kids for Thanksgiving,
I don't have them for Christmas Day, so I don't
know where I'm going to be. It depends if all
stay in Nashville, maybe celebrate with them Christmas Day, and
then fly to Colorado maybe the next.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Day, okay, or so I don't know. I got a
look at the calendar and figure it out. Yeah, uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
We will also be here for Thanksgiving. My whole family's
coming to town and then and my boyfriend's family. We
got lots of people coming for Thanksgiving and then Christmas.
The boyfriend will be coming with me to Kansas for
the first TiO, so I'm very exciting. We'll spend Christmas
in New Year's there probably. I'm not a huge New
Year's person.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So me neither.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I don't really have a desire to be anywhere specific.
As long as I'm with him and people that I like,
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So that's the loose plan so far. But I do
not have as many moving gears as you do, so
that's a little.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Bit more lots of different moving parts.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Are you still doing Pimp and Joy shirts? Brittany in Ohio?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
There will be some for the Saint Jude radiothon. So
if you become a partner in Hope, which that's normally
in December, there's like a Camo shirt that says Pimp
and Joy that people will get.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Okay, so new one coming for the same Jude.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Nice, Okay. How do you enjoy your kitchen after the remodel?
That's from Campbell? Campbell camp. I could never say that name.
How do you say that name?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Campbell?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I always want to say Campbell.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Like it because it's two words Campbell.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I mean I didn't spend much time in the kitchen
when I bought the house, so but yes, I'm very
glad we red it. Like it's awesome. I feel like
I definitely have My last three kitchens have had all
white countertops and like a dark dark dark blue, you know,
most black looking cabinet, and someone pointed that out to me.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You did my last.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Three houses, well, the my house, our house in East
Nashville that I had with Ben before we moved. One
other time it came that way, darker cabinets almost like
I think the color I used is iron ore, So
that was probably the one out there too, But the
builder had done it so or the person that renovated
(04:34):
the house, and so it was iron ore on the
countertops and like a white courts or marble looking type thing.
And then we moved in twenty twenty to a different
house and it had like iron ore cabinets with and
then I ended up putting in it didn't have Oh
(04:55):
actually no, it didn't have that. I painted it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I was like, oh, I loved my last kitchen so.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Much so that I sort of I switched that the
cabinets and the countertops to that. And then when I
moved after the divorce and I moved again, I did
the same thing. So you like that kitchen vibe, yes,
I guess I do. And I think that's a bad thing. Yeah,
it can be comforting for you and you spend a
lot of time in a kitchen. Yeah, I love that
color iron ore. By the way, is it more charcoal
(05:20):
or is it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It can it depends on the light.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It can look sort of charcoally, and then you in
the light you're like, oh, okay, I see like hints
of navy.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Okay, I like that color. And so do you find yourself?
I feel like whenever I do something new at the house,
like I mentioned on part one, how we got our
the deck screened in, and now I spend all the
kinds of time out there because we had just done it.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Oh yeah, you feel the perfect time of year.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yes, But do you feel like you spend more time
in the areas that you remodeled? Like, do you spend
more time in the kitchen because now it's all new
and shine?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah. We tend to hang out more in the kitchen
and the living room. This house, though, when we I
did every part of the.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
House models all of it.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Wow, I mean I remember you were doing a lot
of things, but I thought it was more out of necessity.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I didn't realize you were kind of re redoing some
of it. Yeah, I mean it wasn't. But we did
every bathroom and I put hardwoods in everywhere. Yeah, this
is I had workers in my house for months and
months and months like but all done now, all done now,
thank goodness. It felt like it took a long time.
(06:27):
Do you know. I just got used to coming from
work and like there always being people there. They're like, hey,
y'all want to eat like I was feeding then like yeah,
kids got to know them. But yeah, no, and I
mean some of it we delayed a little bit, like
some final pieces, but yeah, pretty much it.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Was so now you just like to hang out everywhere?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Bathroom, Yes, my downstairs guest bath is my favorite.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So do you go hang out?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And there's some times yes, it's a little teeny tiny
guest bathroom and it's my favorite room.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
See I love that. Can you please share your eyelash routine?
This is from Drew and Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Oh I get eyelash extensions, so that doesn't help. But
I do go to Amy at Lash. I don't know
if it's called it's just called Lash, but it's in
Nashville and Amy is the owner and I've gone to
her for oh my gosh, maybe nine years now.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It's funny every time you say that, I always think
it's you and you just have a secret eyelash side business.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, it's not me. That would be hard to do
it with my close bet. She is the best.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I love her style because it's still it's not over
the top. I've thought about taking them off quite kind
of recently, but then I would miss my time with Amy. Obviously,
after nine years, she's become my friend and I love
our hour together. I feel like you could also hang
out with her, and I know, I know, but we
try to get together, like go on walks and stuff,
(07:57):
and just like coordinating everybody's schedule, it's more difficult. So
I'm like, well, and it's sort of part of my routine.
But I have thought about it does make it easy,
like especially as early as we get up, and that's
one reason why it was a no brainer. I actually
didn't want to get them because I had gotten them
before in Austin and they were horrible whoever I went to,
I mean, they were so bad. I was like plucking
(08:18):
them out because I looked ridiculous. They were so long,
and I remember my mom was still alive, yeah, because
we were living in Austin, and I remember being at
my mom's house in her bathroom, in her magnifying me
or like plucking out my lashes. I was like, well,
this can't be good. And then I got those removed
and I said never again. And then we moved to
(08:38):
Nashville and I wasn't doing them. And then my hair
person said, hey, if you ever want to get your
lashes done, you should go see Amy. She told me
to tell you, like, hey, if you wanted to come in,
I mean, I'm a paying customer or whatever, but just
you know, she's hard to get into. And now I
think her books are a little bit more open. But
she had a wait list or whatever. She's like, ch'll
(09:00):
she has an opening, like if you want to go,
And I thought, no, I'm really not into it. And
I a few more months went by and then we
talked about it again and she was able to get
me in and I decided to go, and I've.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Been going ever since.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
So don't let one bad experience on something completely rule out.
You know, it could be lashes, could be something else,
but like with a massages, yes, Abby, and I went
and got a good massage. And now now she knows
there are quality messuses out there.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And not just creeping in. They've grown, Yes, yes, very much.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So Okay, We're gonna take a quick break and we'll
be right back. How does bean pre menopausal affect you mentally, emotionally, physically.
This is from Liza.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Oh, let's see. I get.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Emotional and irrational at times. My sleep is disrupted at times.
I have some night sweats, but not all the time.
You never know, like really when and it's going to
strike or what. So I purposefully started sleeping with my
thermostat lower than ever before, just to maybe try to
(10:09):
get ahead of it so I don't wake up sweaty.
My cycles are very irregular, like all over the place.
Like I'll be like, didn't I just have my period?
And then it just like doesn't make sense. Some of
my cramps have been completely out of control, painful that
I have not some types of pain that I haven't
(10:31):
experienced since college for some reason, like who knows why
there was relief for you know, over a decade or so.
But yeah, I'm trying to think of is it any
better now or you still feel like you're going through it?
I mean, I have some supplements that I take that
I think help, but then I'll you know, do it
(10:59):
for several months and then I'll run out and I'll
be like, oh, shoot, I need to refill my and
then I don't, and so I don't know. And some
of it, like I have what's called golfer's elbow. My
elbow joint like really really hurts. I thought it was
tennis elbow, but then I googled where the pain was specifically,
and apparently it's called golfer's elbow. And a lot of
(11:19):
people attribute that sort of stuff to perimenopause. But who knows.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, there's just so many factors and hard to tell,
and it isn't. The timeline also wonky, so you never
really know when it's first starts versus when it really
is ending.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, And I will get into tracking things and then
I get bored with it. That's probably my ADHD and
ADHD with perimenopause a lot I got combo.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So you know, I sometimes have to if I want
to just like crawl into my bed, I have to
give myself that because I'm not used to that during
the day of wanting to just lay there.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
But I try to set a timer or give myself
that time and then get up and then get moving again.
And I'm thankful for I guess the times that I
have been able to do that, But on days, some
days you don't have a choice and you're like powering through,
but then eventually catch up to you and then the
next thing, you're just like crying and you're like, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Cool, it's horrible.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Well it is, but you with everybody talking about it
so much, especially online, And that's a lot of my content.
A lot of my algorithm is ADHD and perimenopause stuff.
You feel less alone. You're like, okay, I'm not crazy.
And I imagine some women in previous from previous decades,
(12:49):
they felt probably crazy. And awareness is everything, information is everything.
So I've got to go get some new blood work
done for sure, because I want to see where my
hormones are at that for a while I was taking
some testosterone and then I quit, so I need to
(13:10):
see if I need to get back on that. Just
so many things that are up and down, so many things,
so many things, and just taking the time to take
care of yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yes, well, and speaking of taking care of yourself, Elizabeth
wanted to know, I think out of curiosity, do you
fully recover from an eating disorder or is it like
an addiction?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You deal with for life.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I think it's something that you deal with for life,
but in different ways.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's not as loud.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I guess at times, I don't know. I'm not an
alcoholic or an addict, like, so I don't know what
their experience is like wanting to drink every day. I
know that coming out of it, I guess it's twenty
twenty five, so almost twenty twenty six, twenty six, it'll
be six years that I've been in recovery. And oh
(14:06):
it's more peaceful, that is for sure. But I know
that first year twenty twenty, like that was a difficult year.
But it's sort of similar to an alcoholic maybe with
their chip. And this is how I felt the first
time around when I went like twelve years in, I
call it a sort of recovery. At least I wasn't purging,
(14:28):
but I had other disorder, Like I didn't know orthorexia
was a thing, Like I was very hyperfixated on every
single ingredient and I didn't realize that how that was
ruling my life. I thought that was just being quote
unquote healthy, but it was disruptive, like it was hard
to go out to you with me, like I was
zero fun but as long as I wasn't purging, but
for that twelve years, but when my mom died, it
immediately came back and there was really nothing I could
(14:49):
do about it. It was a trauma response, like that's
how my body was going to cope and it was
going to control that situation. And it was like the
day after she died, I ate and then I purged,
and then cycle began and that lasted from twenty fourteen
to twenty nineteen. So then it was almost like twenty
twenty was like the new year. I mean in COVID.
(15:10):
It had nothing to do with covidorn thing because COVID
hadn't happened yet. It was a specific book that I
read because I was tired and exhausted of it.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I was so over it.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
But it was called Brain Overbinch, and I read that
book at the beginning of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Is that when did we go on family feud?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I want to say it was right around that time,
because I feel like COVID hit twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
But it was like March beginning in April, and I
feel like we went to La to film that in
like January February and I remember I had that book
on our flight on my flight. I don't know if
we all flew together on my flight to LA and
it it changed everything, like and there was these courses
(15:55):
you could sign up for, like I was all in.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I was like, oh my gosh, she has these courses
you could like listen to. She had these.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I downloaded them on the flight home from LA. I
remember listening to the recordings and like highlighting things in
the book. That book changed everything for me. And then
it was a slow whele, like you know, I started
doing like my Fitness Pal or whatever. And then I realized, like, okay,
I need to surrender. I need to let that go
(16:21):
to Some people can do that stuff and enter their
macros and it's fine, but when you're literally I could
probably start doing macros right now and I would be okay.
Because I'm six years in, I know I could do
it with health and mind not control, just literally like
knowing what am I putting in my body because at
forty four, being peri menopausital, like I need to be
focusing on protein. I need to be worried about when
(16:42):
putting up my body like I have. I'm having a
very difficult time retaining muscle, and I'm trying to figure
that out. But some of that is I've got to
be strategic and I've got to write it down so
it's not out of a control, which my fitness power
in the beginning of my covery was control. So my
friend Lisa, who's a registered dietitian that is also in recovery,
(17:05):
and she has a program called fork the Noise, because
that is all it is. It's like noise in your head,
and she's like stick a fork in it, and she
highly encouraged me to ditch. She's like, you've got to stop,
because I mean, I can go to bed at night
till I entered in all my stuff and then you know,
if I ate like a fourth of an egg, like
I was entering in a fourth of an egg, like okay,
who cares? But I wanted every detail even though I
(17:27):
wasn't purging right, So then I had to That was
my final I remember deleting my Fitness of Wealth my
phone was like my final surrender, and that was probably
around March something March April that I deleted that and
then the so the recovery, it's an ongoing process. So
it's in stages. I think with eating sorts it's different.
It's like, Okay, well you know you quit the alcohol.
You quit the alcohol. But I don't know if for
(17:48):
some people might be in stages where they're like, Okay,
I quit the hard liquor, and then now maybe I've
quit the beer, and then maybe now I've quit going
to bars, and then now I've quit you know, because
when you put yourself in certain situations, like there was
some stuff where I'm like, well, this is me still
trying to.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
When I would dabble.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's where it could be related, is that, you know, alcoholics,
we pay attention to those that they always have to
actively make a choice to not do that. It's kind
of like with yours, you're always actively making a choice
to make sure you're not doing anything that would impact
you long term.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah. Uh oh.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
And I think what I was going to say about
the alcoholics is the chips, Like they have a chip,
and for before my mom died, I had a chip
that I'd had a long time, and then all of
a sudden, like boom, my chip was gone. And then
now I kind of feel like I have my chip back,
and I don't I don't want to lose my chip. Yeah,
and I do feel like it's something that's always there though,
(18:46):
so I can only speak to my experience.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's just not as loud.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
So similar to back to that fork the noise, it's
almost like, Okay, I stuck a fork in it, and
I feel really good about that, but I also have
to be on guard. But like that fork could come
loose at any moment. And you know, when my dad
passed away, I was a little bit nervous that it
might because that's how my body responded with my mom.
And he died in twenty twenty one and it didn't
(19:12):
come back. Now, I did have like when I was
going through a divorce and there was like a lot
of stuff going my dad died, there's a lot of stuff.
It didn't return. But I got on an antidepressant that
caused to weight loss. I I was on adderall. I
wasn't hungry anyways, and I definitely got unhealthy, but it
(19:39):
wasn't there was a difference. It wasn't a neating disorder.
It was a lack of care for I was surviving. Yeah,
were and I had our stimulants in my body that
also were speeding up my metabolism and you know, I
would still I I know where I was with it,
(20:01):
so it was fine. But I look back at pictures
and I can see now I'm like, oh gosh, you
know yeah, but there was people concerned in my life,
like my sister, my ex husband, Like they came to me.
I mean, I had a colonoscopy at one point. Well,
you know, that cleans out your entire system. But I
was already had lost that a way at that point,
and then you clean out your entire system, and then
after that, I just wasn't hungry for a few days.
I mean, and that sort of stuff will catch up
(20:22):
to you pretty quickly. And they came to me and
I was like, guys, I promise, I'm fine, but like
I'll like Ben, Ben and I were literally in the
process of getting divorced, and he's like, what do you want.
I'm bringing you food. I'm like, okay, bring me a burger.
I'll eat the burger in front of you. And we
FaceTime to my sister and i'man there with them and
I'm sitting there and I'm like, I'm eating the burger,
you know, watch me, and then I'm going to lay
(20:43):
here I'm not going to go do anything.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So I was probably getting a little defensive.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
At the time, but I know they were coming with love.
But yes, I had a lot going on and my
body was responding that way in stress and the I mean, AfterAll,
that's no joke.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, for sure you had a factors that were
contributing to that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
So that's a really long answer your question. Everybody is
so so, so so different, but I do think it's
something that can pop up and you just need to
be aware and then hopefully you have like we talked about,
like a good foundation, good support around you, and then
you should be good. Like I wasn't as susceptible maybe
(21:25):
or maybe now I wouldn't be because my family.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
You're killing a lot of those internal things that are
that love to come out when stuff happens.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And then I have to watch it around. Like my
boyfriend eats.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
You know, his wife died of colon cancer, so he's
very diet can play a major role in that, and
he did a lot of research and he's aware of
that so with his kids and himself, like he's very
like it's not like other stuff is never allowed. But
as long as let's include these other types of food
(21:56):
that are going to help you help your That's something
I won't get into all the details of what he
does because I don't I'm not the one that did
the research. But they do live a certain way with food,
and sometimes I have to watch it, like around him,
because like I don't want to get it, you know,
get sucked back into a certain way. But I do
want to take care of myself and I know that's
(22:17):
where he's coming from. But my filter, because I have
an eating disorder pasted, I have to be careful with it.
And he understands that, and he's like, what if you
want to eat that, go ahead, eat it. But then
I'm like, well, I don't feel like I can because
y'all aren't. And he's like, no, don't worry about us
like you do you And I'm like, okay, thank you,
because I'd start to put that on him, like oh,
I can't eat this now because he's not approving of it.
(22:42):
So that was an interesting dynamic in our relationship trying
to figure out because because I know I'm susceptible, I
didn't want like to suddenly get sucked into old orthorexia patterns. YEP.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Well, it was keeping you aware. It was something that
you've been through and you were keeping yourself aware of, like, Okay,
how do I make sure I don't do this again?
So it's always around and I'm glad you shared that.
I know this stuff is hard to talk about and stuff,
but I know that that will matter and.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
If you're going through it, yeah, I'm sorry. And I
wish I could say, oh, yeah, you'll be go ahead
once you're in recovery.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yay, but you will be.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
There is always a bright light, there is, but it
just stay a little messy.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, all right, we're going to get out of here. Amy,
thanks for joining, Thank you for sharing being vulnerable, and
check her out at Radio Amy. You can follow me
at web Girl Morgan. And that's all for us. Goodbye, everybody.
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It's listener Q and daytime.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're Morgan in a show member answer almost all your questions.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
It is time for some listener questions and Amy answers.
Are you ready, Amy?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes? Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
We got shout outs to start. Love y'all on the show,
and love both of your podcasts. Y'all are crushing it.
That is from Kate in Arizona. Thanks Kate, super sweet.
Shout out love you girlies. You both bring such good
energy to the show. This is from Leah and Pennsylvania,
two of the prettiest girls. It's from Dana.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh, thanks very sweet.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You both are my favorites. It's from Huddo in Texas.
And then Carla from Kansas hopes to meet both of
us on the Bobby Bone Show cruise, which I think
will probably happen.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, we're gonna meet everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We're gonna be walking around everywhere, so definitely can happen. Carla,
all right, first question Michelle and Texas, what are your
upcoming holiday plans?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't know yet. I mean Thanksgiving I will be.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Home and we'll in Nashville with the kids and doing
Thanksgiving with my boyfriend and his family, so we'll be
with then they have like lots of people. So he's
from Nashville, so there's lots of people involved. And then
he always celebrates it with his wife's she's his I
mean she passed away, so still his wife, but her
(01:19):
family too, Okay, so they cut her.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
She has a transister.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, last year they all came over to his dad's house,
but this year he's like, I think I want to
do it at my house. So and he lives like
right around the corner from his dad, So I don't
know it. Who knows where we'll end up. I'm not
too worried about it. I'm trying to get my sister
and her family to come, and then it would just
be this huge party that would be so fun.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh that would be fun.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, we'll see if that actually happens. And then Christmas,
I have no idea. I got to figure that out,
just winging it right normally Colorado, but I don't know.
I got to figure it out with my kids, like
what they want to do, and then talk to Ben
see because he'll like Christmas s takeris this is two weeks,
Like he'll have them one week and I have them
the other and normally we swap in Colorado at least
we have the last couple of years, and this year,
(02:07):
I don't know if he's for sure going to go,
so then we kind of need to coordinate that.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I have a lot more plans. And this year, will
you potentially spend Christmas at all with your boyfriend and
his family?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Well, I don't have Since I have the kids for Thanksgiving,
I don't have them for Christmas Day, so I don't
know where I'm going to be. It depends if all
stay in Nashville, maybe celebrate with them Christmas Day, and
then fly to Colorado maybe the next.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Day, okay, or so I don't know. I got a
look at the calendar and figure it out. Yeah, uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
We will also be here for Thanksgiving. My whole family's
coming to town and then and my boyfriend's family. We
got lots of people coming for Thanksgiving and then Christmas.
The boyfriend will be coming with me to Kansas for
the first TiO, so I'm very exciting. We'll spend Christmas
in New Year's there probably. I'm not a huge New
Year's person.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So me neither.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I don't really have a desire to be anywhere specific.
As long as I'm with him and people that I like,
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So that's the loose plan so far. But I do
not have as many moving gears as you do, so
that's a little.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Bit more lots of different moving parts.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Are you still doing Pimp and Joy shirts? Brittany in Ohio?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
There will be some for the Saint Jude radiothon. So
if you become a partner in Hope, which that's normally
in December, there's like a Camo shirt that says Pimp
and Joy that people will get.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Okay, so new one coming for the same Jude.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Nice, Okay. How do you enjoy your kitchen after the remodel?
That's from Campbell? Campbell camp. I could never say that name.
How do you say that name?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Campbell?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I always want to say Campbell.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Like it because it's two words Campbell.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I mean I didn't spend much time in the kitchen
when I bought the house, so but yes, I'm very
glad we red it. Like it's awesome. I feel like
I definitely have My last three kitchens have had all
white countertops and like a dark dark dark blue, you know,
most black looking cabinet, and someone pointed that out to me.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You did my last.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Three houses, well, the my house, our house in East
Nashville that I had with Ben before we moved. One
other time it came that way, darker cabinets almost like
I think the color I used is iron ore, So
that was probably the one out there too, But the
builder had done it so or the person that renovated
(04:34):
the house, and so it was iron ore on the
countertops and like a white courts or marble looking type thing.
And then we moved in twenty twenty to a different
house and it had like iron ore cabinets with and
then I ended up putting in it didn't have Oh
(04:55):
actually no, it didn't have that. I painted it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I was like, oh, I loved my last kitchen so.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Much so that I sort of I switched that the
cabinets and the countertops to that. And then when I
moved after the divorce and I moved again, I did
the same thing. So you like that kitchen vibe, yes,
I guess I do. And I think that's a bad thing. Yeah,
it can be comforting for you and you spend a
lot of time in a kitchen. Yeah, I love that
color iron ore. By the way, is it more charcoal
(05:20):
or is it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It can it depends on the light.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It can look sort of charcoally, and then you in
the light you're like, oh, okay, I see like hints
of navy.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Okay, I like that color. And so do you find yourself?
I feel like whenever I do something new at the house,
like I mentioned on part one, how we got our
the deck screened in, and now I spend all the
kinds of time out there because we had just done it.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Oh yeah, you feel the perfect time of year.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yes, But do you feel like you spend more time
in the areas that you remodeled? Like, do you spend
more time in the kitchen because now it's all new
and shine?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah. We tend to hang out more in the kitchen
and the living room. This house, though, when we I
did every part of the.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
House models all of it.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Wow, I mean I remember you were doing a lot
of things, but I thought it was more out of necessity.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I didn't realize you were kind of re redoing some
of it. Yeah, I mean it wasn't. But we did
every bathroom and I put hardwoods in everywhere. Yeah, this
is I had workers in my house for months and
months and months like but all done now, all done now,
thank goodness. It felt like it took a long time.
(06:27):
Do you know. I just got used to coming from
work and like there always being people there. They're like, hey,
y'all want to eat like I was feeding then like yeah,
kids got to know them. But yeah, no, and I
mean some of it we delayed a little bit, like
some final pieces, but yeah, pretty much it.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Was so now you just like to hang out everywhere?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Bathroom, Yes, my downstairs guest bath is my favorite.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So do you go hang out?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And there's some times yes, it's a little teeny tiny
guest bathroom and it's my favorite room.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
See I love that. Can you please share your eyelash routine?
This is from Drew and Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Oh I get eyelash extensions, so that doesn't help. But
I do go to Amy at Lash. I don't know
if it's called it's just called Lash, but it's in
Nashville and Amy is the owner and I've gone to
her for oh my gosh, maybe nine years now.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It's funny every time you say that, I always think
it's you and you just have a secret eyelash side business.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, it's not me. That would be hard to do
it with my close bet. She is the best.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I love her style because it's still it's not over
the top. I've thought about taking them off quite kind
of recently, but then I would miss my time with Amy. Obviously,
after nine years, she's become my friend and I love
our hour together. I feel like you could also hang
out with her, and I know, I know, but we
try to get together, like go on walks and stuff,
(07:57):
and just like coordinating everybody's schedule, it's more difficult. So
I'm like, well, and it's sort of part of my routine.
But I have thought about it does make it easy,
like especially as early as we get up, and that's
one reason why it was a no brainer. I actually
didn't want to get them because I had gotten them
before in Austin and they were horrible whoever I went to,
I mean, they were so bad. I was like plucking
(08:18):
them out because I looked ridiculous. They were so long,
and I remember my mom was still alive, yeah, because
we were living in Austin, and I remember being at
my mom's house in her bathroom, in her magnifying me
or like plucking out my lashes. I was like, well,
this can't be good. And then I got those removed
and I said never again. And then we moved to
(08:38):
Nashville and I wasn't doing them. And then my hair
person said, hey, if you ever want to get your
lashes done, you should go see Amy. She told me
to tell you, like, hey, if you wanted to come in,
I mean, I'm a paying customer or whatever, but just
you know, she's hard to get into. And now I
think her books are a little bit more open. But
she had a wait list or whatever. She's like, ch'll
(09:00):
she has an opening, like if you want to go,
And I thought, no, I'm really not into it. And
I a few more months went by and then we
talked about it again and she was able to get
me in and I decided to go, and I've.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Been going ever since.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
So don't let one bad experience on something completely rule out.
You know, it could be lashes, could be something else,
but like with a massages, yes, Abby, and I went
and got a good massage. And now now she knows
there are quality messuses out there.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And not just creeping in. They've grown, Yes, yes, very much.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So Okay, We're gonna take a quick break and we'll
be right back. How does bean pre menopausal affect you mentally, emotionally, physically.
This is from Liza.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Oh, let's see. I get.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Emotional and irrational at times. My sleep is disrupted at times.
I have some night sweats, but not all the time.
You never know, like really when and it's going to
strike or what. So I purposefully started sleeping with my
thermostat lower than ever before, just to maybe try to
(10:09):
get ahead of it so I don't wake up sweaty.
My cycles are very irregular, like all over the place.
Like I'll be like, didn't I just have my period?
And then it just like doesn't make sense. Some of
my cramps have been completely out of control, painful that
I have not some types of pain that I haven't
(10:31):
experienced since college for some reason, like who knows why
there was relief for you know, over a decade or so.
But yeah, I'm trying to think of is it any
better now or you still feel like you're going through it?
I mean, I have some supplements that I take that
I think help, but then I'll you know, do it
(10:59):
for several months and then I'll run out and I'll
be like, oh, shoot, I need to refill my and
then I don't, and so I don't know. And some
of it, like I have what's called golfer's elbow. My
elbow joint like really really hurts. I thought it was
tennis elbow, but then I googled where the pain was specifically,
and apparently it's called golfer's elbow. And a lot of
(11:19):
people attribute that sort of stuff to perimenopause. But who knows.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, there's just so many factors and hard to tell,
and it isn't. The timeline also wonky, so you never
really know when it's first starts versus when it really
is ending.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, And I will get into tracking things and then
I get bored with it. That's probably my ADHD and
ADHD with perimenopause a lot I got combo.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So you know, I sometimes have to if I want
to just like crawl into my bed, I have to
give myself that because I'm not used to that during
the day of wanting to just lay there.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
But I try to set a timer or give myself
that time and then get up and then get moving again.
And I'm thankful for I guess the times that I
have been able to do that, But on days, some
days you don't have a choice and you're like powering through,
but then eventually catch up to you and then the
next thing, you're just like crying and you're like, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Cool, it's horrible.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Well it is, but you with everybody talking about it
so much, especially online, And that's a lot of my content.
A lot of my algorithm is ADHD and perimenopause stuff.
You feel less alone. You're like, okay, I'm not crazy.
And I imagine some women in previous from previous decades,
(12:49):
they felt probably crazy. And awareness is everything, information is everything.
So I've got to go get some new blood work
done for sure, because I want to see where my
hormones are at that for a while I was taking
some testosterone and then I quit, so I need to
(13:10):
see if I need to get back on that. Just
so many things that are up and down, so many things,
so many things, and just taking the time to take
care of yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yes, well, and speaking of taking care of yourself, Elizabeth
wanted to know, I think out of curiosity, do you
fully recover from an eating disorder or is it like
an addiction?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You deal with for life.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I think it's something that you deal with for life,
but in different ways.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's not as loud.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I guess at times, I don't know. I'm not an
alcoholic or an addict, like, so I don't know what
their experience is like wanting to drink every day. I
know that coming out of it, I guess it's twenty
twenty five, so almost twenty twenty six, twenty six, it'll
be six years that I've been in recovery. And oh
(14:06):
it's more peaceful, that is for sure. But I know
that first year twenty twenty, like that was a difficult year.
But it's sort of similar to an alcoholic maybe with
their chip. And this is how I felt the first
time around when I went like twelve years in, I
call it a sort of recovery. At least I wasn't purging,
(14:28):
but I had other disorder, Like I didn't know orthorexia
was a thing, Like I was very hyperfixated on every
single ingredient and I didn't realize that how that was
ruling my life. I thought that was just being quote
unquote healthy, but it was disruptive, like it was hard
to go out to you with me, like I was
zero fun but as long as I wasn't purging, but
for that twelve years, but when my mom died, it
immediately came back and there was really nothing I could
(14:49):
do about it. It was a trauma response, like that's
how my body was going to cope and it was
going to control that situation. And it was like the
day after she died, I ate and then I purged,
and then cycle began and that lasted from twenty fourteen
to twenty nineteen. So then it was almost like twenty
twenty was like the new year. I mean in COVID.
(15:10):
It had nothing to do with covidorn thing because COVID
hadn't happened yet. It was a specific book that I
read because I was tired and exhausted of it.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I was so over it.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
But it was called Brain Overbinch, and I read that
book at the beginning of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Is that when did we go on family feud?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I want to say it was right around that time,
because I feel like COVID hit twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
But it was like March beginning in April, and I
feel like we went to La to film that in
like January February and I remember I had that book
on our flight on my flight. I don't know if
we all flew together on my flight to LA and
it it changed everything, like and there was these courses
(15:55):
you could sign up for, like I was all in.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I was like, oh my gosh, she has these courses
you could like listen to. She had these.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I downloaded them on the flight home from LA. I
remember listening to the recordings and like highlighting things in
the book. That book changed everything for me. And then
it was a slow whele, like you know, I started
doing like my Fitness Pal or whatever. And then I realized, like, okay,
I need to surrender. I need to let that go
(16:21):
to Some people can do that stuff and enter their
macros and it's fine, but when you're literally I could
probably start doing macros right now and I would be okay.
Because I'm six years in, I know I could do
it with health and mind not control, just literally like
knowing what am I putting in my body because at
forty four, being peri menopausital, like I need to be
focusing on protein. I need to be worried about when
(16:42):
putting up my body like I have. I'm having a
very difficult time retaining muscle, and I'm trying to figure
that out. But some of that is I've got to
be strategic and I've got to write it down so
it's not out of a control, which my fitness power
in the beginning of my covery was control. So my
friend Lisa, who's a registered dietitian that is also in recovery,
(17:05):
and she has a program called fork the Noise, because
that is all it is. It's like noise in your head,
and she's like stick a fork in it, and she
highly encouraged me to ditch. She's like, you've got to stop,
because I mean, I can go to bed at night
till I entered in all my stuff and then you know,
if I ate like a fourth of an egg, like
I was entering in a fourth of an egg, like okay,
who cares? But I wanted every detail even though I
(17:27):
wasn't purging right, So then I had to That was
my final I remember deleting my Fitness of Wealth my
phone was like my final surrender, and that was probably
around March something March April that I deleted that and
then the so the recovery, it's an ongoing process. So
it's in stages. I think with eating sorts it's different.
It's like, Okay, well you know you quit the alcohol.
You quit the alcohol. But I don't know if for
(17:48):
some people might be in stages where they're like, Okay,
I quit the hard liquor, and then now maybe I've
quit the beer, and then maybe now I've quit going
to bars, and then now I've quit you know, because
when you put yourself in certain situations, like there was
some stuff where I'm like, well, this is me still
trying to.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
When I would dabble.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's where it could be related, is that, you know, alcoholics,
we pay attention to those that they always have to
actively make a choice to not do that. It's kind
of like with yours, you're always actively making a choice
to make sure you're not doing anything that would impact
you long term.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah. Uh oh.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
And I think what I was going to say about
the alcoholics is the chips, Like they have a chip,
and for before my mom died, I had a chip
that I'd had a long time, and then all of
a sudden, like boom, my chip was gone. And then
now I kind of feel like I have my chip back,
and I don't I don't want to lose my chip. Yeah,
and I do feel like it's something that's always there though,
(18:46):
so I can only speak to my experience.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's just not as loud.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
So similar to back to that fork the noise, it's
almost like, Okay, I stuck a fork in it, and
I feel really good about that, but I also have
to be on guard. But like that fork could come
loose at any moment. And you know, when my dad
passed away, I was a little bit nervous that it
might because that's how my body responded with my mom.
And he died in twenty twenty one and it didn't
(19:12):
come back. Now, I did have like when I was
going through a divorce and there was like a lot
of stuff going my dad died, there's a lot of stuff.
It didn't return. But I got on an antidepressant that
caused to weight loss. I I was on adderall. I
wasn't hungry anyways, and I definitely got unhealthy, but it
(19:39):
wasn't there was a difference. It wasn't a neating disorder.
It was a lack of care for I was surviving. Yeah,
were and I had our stimulants in my body that
also were speeding up my metabolism and you know, I
would still I I know where I was with it,
(20:01):
so it was fine. But I look back at pictures
and I can see now I'm like, oh gosh, you
know yeah, but there was people concerned in my life,
like my sister, my ex husband, Like they came to me.
I mean, I had a colonoscopy at one point. Well,
you know, that cleans out your entire system. But I
was already had lost that a way at that point,
and then you clean out your entire system, and then
after that, I just wasn't hungry for a few days.
I mean, and that sort of stuff will catch up
(20:22):
to you pretty quickly. And they came to me and
I was like, guys, I promise, I'm fine, but like
I'll like Ben, Ben and I were literally in the
process of getting divorced, and he's like, what do you want.
I'm bringing you food. I'm like, okay, bring me a burger.
I'll eat the burger in front of you. And we
FaceTime to my sister and i'man there with them and
I'm sitting there and I'm like, I'm eating the burger,
you know, watch me, and then I'm going to lay
(20:43):
here I'm not going to go do anything.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So I was probably getting a little defensive.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
At the time, but I know they were coming with love.
But yes, I had a lot going on and my
body was responding that way in stress and the I mean, AfterAll,
that's no joke.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, for sure you had a factors that were
contributing to that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
So that's a really long answer your question. Everybody is
so so, so so different, but I do think it's
something that can pop up and you just need to
be aware and then hopefully you have like we talked about,
like a good foundation, good support around you, and then
you should be good. Like I wasn't as susceptible maybe
(21:25):
or maybe now I wouldn't be because my family.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
You're killing a lot of those internal things that are
that love to come out when stuff happens.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And then I have to watch it around. Like my
boyfriend eats.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
You know, his wife died of colon cancer, so he's
very diet can play a major role in that, and
he did a lot of research and he's aware of
that so with his kids and himself, like he's very
like it's not like other stuff is never allowed. But
as long as let's include these other types of food
(21:56):
that are going to help you help your That's something
I won't get into all the details of what he
does because I don't I'm not the one that did
the research. But they do live a certain way with food,
and sometimes I have to watch it, like around him,
because like I don't want to get it, you know,
get sucked back into a certain way. But I do
want to take care of myself and I know that's
(22:17):
where he's coming from. But my filter, because I have
an eating disorder pasted, I have to be careful with it.
And he understands that, and he's like, what if you
want to eat that, go ahead, eat it. But then
I'm like, well, I don't feel like I can because
y'all aren't. And he's like, no, don't worry about us
like you do you And I'm like, okay, thank you,
because I'd start to put that on him, like oh,
I can't eat this now because he's not approving of it.
(22:42):
So that was an interesting dynamic in our relationship trying
to figure out because because I know I'm susceptible, I
didn't want like to suddenly get sucked into old orthorexia patterns. YEP.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Well, it was keeping you aware. It was something that
you've been through and you were keeping yourself aware of, like, Okay,
how do I make sure I don't do this again?
So it's always around and I'm glad you shared that.
I know this stuff is hard to talk about and stuff,
but I know that that will matter and.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
If you're going through it, yeah, I'm sorry. And I
wish I could say, oh, yeah, you'll be go ahead
once you're in recovery.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yay, but you will be.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
There is always a bright light, there is, but it
just stay a little messy.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, all right, we're going to get out of here. Amy,
thanks for joining, Thank you for sharing being vulnerable, and
check her out at Radio Amy. You can follow me
at web Girl Morgan. And that's all for us. Goodbye, everybody.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
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