January 3, 2020 • 41 mins
Bobby read a story about how songs with features have a better shot of being a hit. Bobby and Eddie break down the best 25 Duets of the Last 25 Years. Bobby gives his Top 5 Country Duets of all-time and breaks down the best from the pop charts and they also get into the 27 club.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Thanks for checking out the Bobby
Bone Show podcast. You know I wanted to share an
episode of the Bobby Cast. It's the show I do
from my house where I talk to creatives, right, songwriters, artists, managers,
record executives, a whole lot more. And sometimes I'll bring
an Eddie and we just talk about music because we're
both music nerds. Now, this is an episode we did
where we broke down the best twenty five duets of
the last twenty five years, and so also throwing my
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best top five country duets as well. So, and if
you like this episode, if you love music, you can
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your podcasts. Here's episode one fifty five of the Bobby Cast.
Welcome to episode one five. Eddie is jumping in from
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The Boybone Show, but the Sore Losers podcasts as well.
That's kind of cool. Yeah, I come from another place. Yeah, yeah,
Eddie is my music friend and we sit and we
talk about music a lot, which is kind of where
the stem from. I'm reading an article that if you
want a song to be a hit. The best thing
to do is to bring another artist in. Really, like
most time when you bring another artists in generates interest.
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Usually if you're bring an artist and that means are
good people know them so kind of duets or the thing,
and we can look back at something like FGL meant
to be, which, oh, bb Rex all right, And this
song worked multiple formats because bb Rex is a pop artist,
and on the different formats, what's funny is they played
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to the strengths so much more, meaning country. They did
a whole lot more of FGL and cut some of
the bb right pop. They did a whole lot more
bb and cut some of the Florida Georgia line. Like.
It was like this long piece that they could, you know,
manipulate whichever way they needed to for people to listen
to it. I remember hearing that version of of bb
Rex is sing in the and no need not no
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not her part. It's it's the regular Florida Georgia line part,
and I was like, that sounds so weird because I
was used to the country version. Yeah, sinse, So their
story is that I can read you this here. A
new study found that songs with featured guest artists or
duos over the past two decades have become top ten hits,
right and Maroon five MCCRDI B yeah honey, and a
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Girl Like You Yeah yeah that same No, that's the
same one. Yeah, I like my money moves. This says
girls like that doesn't name of that song they messed
up to who did that? That's why we're the expert
on the podcast. Remember Katie Perry and Snoop Dogg doing
California Girls. Yo, that's a good one. Yeah. So and
they left some of them Eminem and Rihanna doing Monster
that the fire on the Monster Eminem with Dido doing
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Stand of course, I big that one was huge. That's
that one's was that stand? Yeah? Yeah? No, not stand, No,
it wasn't stand. Yeah it is My Tea's wrong. So
what happened with that one was hey, hey, but he's fan.
The name is standing Tea. Wow, you're right. I didn't
really she picked that out herself after that that song alone.
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So h thank dude teaching the stuff right now. I
like that. I wasn't planning to talk about that. I'm
going from memory here. What was that? Didos? I'm called
you can look it up. No, I don't need to
all I'll look it up because I need to. Um.
It's probably called I Want to Thank You. Oh that's
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not it for giving me the best day of my life. Yeah.
So she made this into a real song and released
it after she was on it. Yo, slim, it's me dang.
So that's the MM version I ever heard this. So
this came out after stand. Yes, I believe again, I'm
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just going for wonder why I would have thought the
hip hop they sampled this is original. This came first
and then they sampled it first. Stand but no, not
saying this was already created. But so why aren't we
like just infiltrated with duets. We kind of are now
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if you look around feet years the duets, And that's
my point, and I want to get to some some
of the new stuff and even the best duets of
the past twenty five years. And by duets, it can
also be a feature, right, I just just do it
if there's two people singing in the song. But this
is stand you know, it comes to mind. It's like
John Mayer like he I feel like he's the dude,
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like he dates a girl. He's like, hey, feature duet
with me because like really like he d W Taylor
they were dating, right, so I think that story again,
I'm just pulling stuf out of my butt right here.
What I think about the Taylor one is because that
would be half of my Heart. My gotta be okay,
it's John mayor Taylor Swift. I believe that she was
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more prominently in the song from what I've heard, could
be wrong. And then once it didn't go so well,
they kind of pulled her back a bit doing some
background book. Oh really like she's saying versus. I don't
know about verses, but she was definitely more in there.
And then John Mayr and Katy Perry did who love?
Yeah so good? Yeah, look up Half of My Heart
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and see if there's any recollection or if I made
it up or if I know insider. And when you
geek over the stuff, like what kind of research you do?
You just google everything? Or I talk to people that
are really you have that? Yeah, well it's my job,
and those people they just kind of vomit all that
information out, yeah, because they know I don't share stuff
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like I'm if I note like their stuff. I know
about songs that couch of music, right, now who they're
written about, it would shake the letter No. But there's
one song in particular that if I was like, oh,
you know, the song is about blah blah blah the
whole what. Yeah, dang, that's crazy and it's so cool
they trust you with that. Yeah, Like, dude, you could
really just like oh, but I don't want to because
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then no one will trust you ever again. Correct, Mike,
you don't talk about no, Okay, it doesn't matter. I'm
not gonna say I'm not even gonna allude to it. Dang,
that's so cool. But if you prove trustworthy, then people
trust you. Yeah, And you have to show that you're
trustworthy and little bits first, and they give you middle
bits and then finally people are like I one love
music first and form more than I love gossip. I
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thought you couldn't say, God, no more than I love
goss than I love gossip for what it's about, Like
I love you And the thing about my ex girlfriend's
record when it comes out later, I haven't heard it,
but there are songs about me, but I respect the
music so much that she was like, Hey, should I
send you the songs? You'll something? I was like, nope,
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because I'll be like, don't put it out, but I
want your record to be what you wanted to be.
Zero songs got me, ten songs about me. It needs
to be what you're feeling. So from respect for the
music and you as an artist, don't send me crap
because me the humans gonna go. Don't put that out
on me, the person who loves music goes. I don't
even want to hear it. You just should put out
what you want to put out, and if it's slamming
me or are loving me or mostly slamming me, then
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that's what you should do. Yeah, slamming me. Yeah? Do
you like knowing all that stuff? Though? Like do you
like knowing what the song was written about? Because then
then your mind just takes you there. I know sometimes
not because I like to have sign at times my
own narrative things. Because I think we hear a song,
we go, this makes me feel this way, But if
we know what it's really written about, we can't feel
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the way that we would have loved to have felt,
or we feel the way that we were needing to feel. Right, Mike,
do you find thing about that? Okay? Then I find
not true? Well, you'd say why Okay, So that could
be it. Yeah, it could be that the version that
you're hearing without her really is because they pulled her
back off of it because they decided she didn't she
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shouldn't be on it. That really could be it. So
I wonder how all these go down, too, Like how
do they get asked? They probably say they're probaly lay
in bed. I was just thinking and that's it, You're like,
all right, let's go No, but they were dating, I thought,
or maybe it was after the fact time and then
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they recorded and then I don't know, no, because it
needed and after Taylor or before and you know what,
I know stuff about that doesn't matter. I know too much.
I'm going to stop talking. Okay. There are those places
too where I got stop talking because I know too much. Um.
And I don't even like to stand o too much
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because then it's like shut up, oh cool guy. But
I have to stop because I got to say something
I was supposed to say. That being said, I want
to hear this list. This whole thing is the best
duets of the last twenty five years, and one of
the recent duets is Brentley Gilbert and lindsay El. This
song flying up charts right now your ex girlfriend? Right?
What happens in a small town? Small season? Stop? When
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I read that article about features and duets, I was like, Oh,
this is what's happening now with the Brentley Lindsay song.
Not because she makes girlfriend but separate everybody. So there's
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that one. What happens in a small town. We'll do
some country ones first, all right, let's by the way.
Eddie was like a bad goodbye dude. I just like,
I mean when this song came out, and I'm kind
of like you with like the emo music like stuff
that just pulls your heart. Dude. I remember being young
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listening to the song and get in tear eyed and
I'm like, what do I know about this crap? It's
a club black and white one. Now, to be fair,
this is not inside the twenty five years. I missed
it by what one is by a year. I'm sure
it's something fast forward because when they hit that like
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towards the end, when they go power like the song
it so much it's given me like chill. Remember like
being a kid hearing this take it dude, you know,
how far do you want to go out? And didn't
mind they're both because when I the verse after this
and then they do it together, where that's the powerful.
There's no good window. The wall who's good bye, would
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never to leave, try to get to keep you through
the clown here it is there may be no way
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to fly and the clown, I mean space too clear
that I can't leave. We the man good bye, good bye, dude,
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I can't. So you remember it, of course, gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that was so powerful. And I don't even know if
it was huge or it made all right listen all
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with country duets. My favorite. He put that whiskey lullaby
that is your favorite. It's such a good song. Brad Paisley,
Alice Krouse, Finally Drink and Brad Paisley writes most of
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his songs, he didn't write this one. I remember Brad
coming in once and I was like, dude, with my
favorite song you ever done. And I don't know if
if that's insulting or it's not an insult, but it's like, oh,
insulting because to him, he's done so much and he's
had so much. So he's had so many songs he's
written and put out his down he was Entertainer of
the Year. He's had everything right exactly. But this song,
these slow songs, this is one of the best, like
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top five best country duets, and I have my top five.
They're not really in any order. This other one was
not a single. This I'll Be the Moon, Oh dude,
I just I listen to this now still, like it's
in my rotation of songs to listen to. Yeah, and
I'll Be the Moon is Dirks and Marion Morris. Yeah,
Ryan heard wrote this and dude, honestly, and I'm pretty
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good at listening to music and breaking down lyrics and
kind of understanding what they're saying. And I never really
paid attention to it. But when Ryan Ryan one time
talked about this and talked about, you know, is it
being an affair and then being okay with that, it
was like, and that's what it means, Like you're gonna
metaphorically call that the sun and the moon, Like he
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can be the sun and I be on the other
side of the world, be of the moon. And it's like,
I'll I'm okay waiting if that's the only way I
can have you is that I'll be the moon. That's intense, right,
Like that to me is like that's just the thinking
that never would cross my mind. And they turn it
into a song, a beautiful song. I don't want to be.
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I don't want to be a secret, but I will
if you want. They came in and played this from
Darks's record. Yeah, I had Darks and Marion come in
and play this together. They were like, I'm not a single.
I was like, I don't care, just play it. He can.
I'll be okay. But you said that they may they
do these things kind of like as like their most
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the data says these are most successful. So this is
kind of why labels do sometimes put these together and
arrange him and release him. Yeah, but in this case,
this wasn't even a single. It wasn't a single. I
don't know why. And sometimes they don't make those decisions
till later. They could have recorded it going to be
a single for some reason ended up changing. Interesting. I
remember Dark put out a song called what the Hell
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or something, and they pulled it because Darks like hell
being a single and so all those factors it may
or may not have changed what the next single was,
what the next single was, because you don't do two
slow songs in a row. You don't do, you know, so,
I don't know why, but that song is so good.
That's then my top duets. It's a good one. Twenty
five years. I also have picture from Kid Rock and
Sheryl Crow. I mean it's classic, right shoot thousand and one,
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eighteen years ago. Would you consider this country? Yeah? I
don't know why. I don't think Sheryl's country. Then she's
not country now? Really Kid Rock has never been country
kind of. He lives in Nationville now, I mean he's
not a country hit though, has he? Yeah? Wolves in
London and oh oh yeah, I guess that was yeah? Yeah,
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what was that done? It's hard to sing another song
when this one's playing what was called he Wears Fishing
on the Ducks all summer long? That song, note, Mike,
you pull it up picture. Cheryl Crow wasn't the original
singer on that song? Who was another country artist? Really? Yeah?
And so and again they were dating Kid Rock and
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Cheryl Crowe? Were they not when this one thing? I
don't know if they were dating then or not, because
I feel like that's special too, Like if there is
romance between that, probably how you get them or you
get them the studio and then you start dating after it.
It's like a little tactic that you do. Yeah, It's like, Hey,
I want to meet somebody. How do I get them
to come in? Ask him to do a duet? It's
like putting somebody in music video? Who is your Allison More? Yeah?
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So she was the original one on the song? Oh,
I mean huge, huge advantage to put Cheryl Crow on it.
That could have that could have made the song. Yeah,
are that crazy? That is crazy good one. That's one
of my top I love this You and Tequila from
Kenny Chesney and Grace Potter. Oh yeah, twenty crazy jam right,
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so good harmonies are here? One more n kill but
just want one more is now so good. Put that
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on the list. Another one that I put in is
the Brooks and Done with Reba. Yeah, cowgirls don't Cry? Yes?
Is that a duet or a triplet? Well? Or is
that a three way? Is that a threesome? It's two
artists like Brooks and Dons considered an artist. But yeah,
they should make another category for three and then they
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would dominate it obviously because this is good. But it's
like two artists. Yeah, I'm saying girls. The whole song
is like the dad's like telling her, hey, you fall
up a horse. Cowgirls won't cry, get up, Hey this happened.
Cowgirs wont cry, get up. And then at the end,
the dad's dying and she's like she's the cows because
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cowgirls don't cry, and it turned it on him. That's
a good one I put down in the top five.
And if I had to do one more, because I
have a bunch of them up here, Whiskey the Laby,
I'll be the moon. Cowgirls don't Cry. Oh that's five.
You know the one that you have more? You have
more on there? I do like this is the probably
the ultimate, it's probably the biggest. Again, the ultimate we
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know Tim and Faith like they're married. It's love. So
that makes all this way more special than just too
hardist singing a song. I wonder if there are a
lot of duets where people were together and now they
hate each other and we feel worse about it. Because
on the show, on the radio show, we were talking
about the song from Dixie Chicks, Cowboy Take Me Away
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was written about Emily Robinson and Charlie Robinson no longer
together and they're not together, but it was written about
you know them, seeing that happen. Ye, it's written about
Emily fallen in love with Mary. Wrote it with Marcus
Hummond about Emily and charl in love with Charlie. Now
they're not together. But if you know that story, do
you think of it differently and go, oh, this is
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written about their love. Well, ever since you told that story,
I heard it a couple of times after that, and
I've automatically thought about that story now, so I don't
even think about I mean, I don't know, I never
thought about anything, but now I think about Charlie and Emily,
like it doesn't kill it that they're not together, because
that's real life. The fact that they got divorced whatever.
Real life, we never would have known that story wasn't
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even out. But the song, I mean that that still lives.
Like you talk about, that song still lives, and if
it was about them fallen in love, It'll always be
about them fallen in love. It's five o'clock somewhere. Alan Jackson,
Jimmy Buffett. Did you like this one? Yes? You like
Jimmy Buffett. Though he's my favorite, I was never a
lover lover of this song. There was a guy in
high school named Brian Wagner, and this dude was like
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a surfer kind of a kid or whatever, and his
parents were big Jimmy Buffett fans, and he got me
into Jimmy Buffett, and I loved that whole like party
Margarita's and parrots and like tropical vibe. Like I just
love his whatever he stood for, that's your thing. I'm
a beach guy man. Buffets my dude. So when you
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put Alan Jackson, who was I mean the king of
just country music, nineties country really like the Chattahoochie and
all that, and then put them together with Jimmy Buffett
and loving life, I wonder how many of these two
were saying in the same studio back in the day
versus now. It's a good question because you have you,
we have like the raging idiots. You have duets with
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We have duets with Carrie Underwood, carry Charles, Charles, Kelly,
Kelsey Ballerini. So, and how many of those were done
in the same time exactly? Well, maybe same room, but
we went at the same time. Like when Carrie went
up to saying you were there, I wasn't there, correct,
and I think I'm have been sick or something it.
Carrie went up and just nailed it and was like,
all right, So that's just us. And why would you
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try to schedule time and your busy schedule to both
be in the same room unless it's a special moment
you have to be there, Like why would you why
would you record at the same time? Technology man a video? Okay,
I guess that was I mean videos now, like, no,
they don't really matter that much anymore. People don't way
too much money on videos now and who never, I
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don't see him. You can just put up a lyric video,
the one with the bouncy ball on the bottom. Yeah,
just anything one more guard Patrician, big Jam afraid you
know what I've realized while talking about this, I like
my due at slow perfect port. What's the fast one
that we talked about one fast somewhere? Okay, yeah, true,
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but all my favorites, the ones I pulled, are all
slow ones. Yeah. You did say baby Rex in Floorgio.
Oh that was an example that exam top Yeah, but again,
it's such a big one, like massive, I'm so right
Dan and Shay not to do it, but they're two dudes.
Tequila was such a big song. Had the FGL song
not existed, that song what to set every record. But
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that's how big the FGL song was. It blew people huge.
It was so big that haters and country music didn't
want acknowledge. It was that big country music haters that
they didn't even want to acknowledge it. Yeah, uh, pop
here you got some of the best duets twenty five years,
Jay Z, Alicia Keys, it's still good. Yes, it comes
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on and but Eddie, I wonder if it's because we're
in our late thirties. This wasn't my thing, Like I
wasn't listening to this kind of music when it came out,
but it stood out over everything else when it did
come out, so I was like, I don't care, I
love it. Then Alicia Keys put the song out after that,
It's just a song. Would it have been a bigger
song of it was Beyonce? Because again, I feel like
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it's really important Beyonce's not from New York, Texas. Hed
doesn't acknowledge the song from Texas. I think that the
reason that Alicia Keys does it the New York Girl
is because it's a New York Girl and you need
someone in jay Z's the New York guy. So I
don't think it could have been Beyonce. Speaking of maybe
off track a little bit, But do you think Alicia
Key is gonna do good at the Grammys? Yeah, she'd
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be fine. They won't put it in a situation to
not do well, okay, meaning they're not gonna have her
up doing a comedy monologue. I just don't see her
as a host, Okay. I don't think they have her
traditional host like should come out and do something a
little funny. She'd probably play a little funny song, maybe
on her piano. They won't take someone like that who's
so good at what they do and put them in
a whole new world and give him a chance to fail.
You get someone like that for their name, what they're
good at, and you let them do what they're good Okay,
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you know what I mean. It's good answer. Uh do
you remember Mariah Carey boys Man once we Day? What
no play? Let me see You're shining down on me
from Heaven. No no, this song was massive. They sang
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this together in the studio, the little videos down from
Heaven Lust the Way. No No, this song was so big.
It was number one for like twelve weeks. I've heard it.
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I've heard it one sweet day. There was boys to
Men at their height and Mariah Carey height. That's a
massive song. Holy crap. The other big one I remember
this is Megan Trainer John Legend from twenty fifteen. It
wasn't like a super super super smash, but I loved it.
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I feel like that was last year I come seeing
good Bye You like those roles. I love it because
I had runs called runs yeah runs yeah yeah yeah?
Uh shallow from Stars Born, Oh yeah that's lady. Actually
you are you happy? And this model need is there
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something new? Usurgion Fool like the movie I've never seen it.
Oh yeah, it's his movie and I'm not gonna be
one that goes it's the greatest movie ever because it's not.
But it's really good. But when you say something's really good,
it's usually right. You know. Really, you're not to follow
the hype kind of guy. And I wanted to not
like it. That's how much fault not follow the hype guy.
(26:22):
I wanted to be like, come on, guys, my roll
my eyes. It's good. Yeah it was. I've seen other versions,
so I know how. I kind of know how I
got singing that this clip we have. What do you
think about him? Though? Like, I mean, this is gonna
it's already won some awards, right, they're playing it at
the Oscars, right, So I mean, this is Bradley Cooper.
This is why I like it so much. The movie
is because he had to had to do that, Like
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he had to to sing, He had to learn to
play guitar. Oh he didn't know how to play guitar
or anything nothing and sing and do it. And then
he gets on and does our great job. Props to him, man,
And then as someone who you know plays music, and
then I know, like in the big scene at the
beginning where he's playing a huge this huge stadium or
now it's each festival like that was now stage coach,
(27:06):
stage coach, and like you just see all the things
they had to do to make that movie work, and
it's really cool. Yeah, you'll like it. You should watch it.
I will. Yeah, And then it reminds you of like
other artists too that we know, and you're like, well,
and then Eddie Vetter is my favorite, and he went
and lived any Vetter he did to kind of learn
his behavior mannerisms. Yeah, remember this one dilemma Nelly and
Kelly Roland. Of course it shook up every of course
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before you know. The other one was Nelly and Timograw. Yeah,
which I'm surprised that wasn't in one of the country ones.
Well because it wasn't country. Was that? Was that a
big pop hit? Yeah? Over and over country really did
country I played at all? Only pop did, because it's
all in my head. Shook my world out. Dang ude,
you're right. Yeah, So I think about it over and over.
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I mean, think about when this came out for Tim
mcgarwy got on a rap record. It wasn't something everybody
was the country wasn't doing that wearing his cowboy hat
and for Nellie to be able to see out to
the box and go, let's bring out a country singer.
They were way ahead of their time. Nellie's got something
in him where he kind of like maybe he doesn't
see genre lance or something because he's real close to country,
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Like maybe he's from Missouri. Maybe that's that's always what
I thought, Like you grow up in the Middlewest. You know,
someone considered this almost a staff that you have a
country root. And I mean he's done did country grammar,
country grammar, all of that. I feel like he does
have deep country reads. We did he put us all
they wanted to go country at one point I think
Nellie did, oh yeah, yeah, Ago this shook it. That
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shook bb rexa fgl meant to be obviously. You know
what song I loved to duet was any of the
best duets in the past twenty five years in my opinion,
That Pink and that Nate Rous from Fun when they
did just give Me Heason Get that was I love
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this song. Yeah, that's clearly a fun song right like
the band Fun because it sounds like them. I hate
they're not together any too fun Like this Guy's get
one of the best voices. I've ever heard his range.
It sounds like a girl. Sometimes they must have just
something going on, because Jack the guy now is in
the bleachers. Yes, he's the he's the guitarists and bleachers
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are good now. But that's not Fun. But Fun was
when Fun came out. It sounds like we're saying, but
that's not Fun, man, the Fun the band isn't even
like current to people. And and they only had what
they weren't around for that long. Right as far as
far as they're like huge success, I don't I remember
a blit of their warriors. Yeah, that's nothing. Fun's first
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song some Nights? Was it some Nights? No? No, no,
that sounds like it said that one weird young I
thought it was weird. That's it. I could be wrong.
What friends are in the bathroom getting tired? She was awaiting,
just as this is not a duet. The band was
just so good Sunglass and then Nate rus can never
take off himself. I know, I gave it to you
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months ago. That was good. And then after that was
I Believe some Nights, Some Nights, and then this is
that jam. But my favorite was carry on Me Too.
Still it's still my favorite. I love it again. I'm
a sucker for slow pianos, Fun, carry on, carry on,
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so good. Well, I woke to the song. I'll listen
to this today now. I never reminded of it cutting
like nine today. You can listen to all fun today.
After if I played, I was like, I like playing,
and I was just jamming out to some other stuff.
You know what I what trail I went down recently
was the twenty seven Club trail. I didn't mean to,
but I just kind of started listening to all their
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music and can I brought me down a little bit.
I wouldn't see just doing that. Died early? Yeah, can
I Can I give you the other side of that? Ye,
A bit of the darker side of it, and not
in a bad way. But I would say, because here's
you want to give the story of the twenty seven Club. Yeah,
twenty seven club is the age twenty seven that a
group of artists, I would say artists because they're even
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I mean I even think maybe Heath Ledgers in as well.
But like artists died at age twenty seven, and they
call it the twenty seven Club because they're all probably
still together in heaven or something. You know something, I'll
died at twenty seven ye basic, right, So okay, let's
let's get one on as I tell the story. For example,
you're going Coban now, I was gonna go Jimmy Hendrix, Okay, Nirvana,
Amy Winehouse, um, Jim Morrison a lot. Right. Here's my
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theory as to why it's actually not bad, which but
it makes it kind of dark. I don't think they
would have been able to create such magic stuff had
they been normal. You know, this is my theory anyway, Yes,
to create and we always have the argument we create
crazy stuff. You have to be crazy to create crazy
good stuff that's so so different. You have to be different.
And I would say what made them specials also what
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killed them that they were out of control, you know
where they were out of control musical and had no rules.
They were also out of control of the personal alie
that had no rules. You can't just kind of pick
a spot and go I'm fully nutty in this part
of my life. But you know what, I'm going to
count it the rest of the day. So the fact
that Kurt Cobain was able to take a sound and
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elevate it he did. They didn't create that sound. You know,
they were actually the first ones from that scene to
bust through with that sound. But the fact that he
was able to do that, he was only able to
do that because he was nuts. That music would have
never happened had he not been reckless and crazy and nuts.
And that same characteristic is what killed him. So if
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he didn't have if he didn't have the characters killed,
h wouldn't have had the characters that made the music.
Amy Winehouse the same thing. Jim Morrison from the Doors
like that dude was insane but genius at the same time,
and what killed him was his insanity. So my thing is, Okay,
it sucks. They all died at twenty seven, but we
did never had their music had they not been nutty
to begin with. Does that make sense? It does? And
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I agree with you for some of them. I don't
agree with Jim Morrison or Amy Winehouse because what because
Jim Morrison had a band, like a really good band
that made really good He was the poet of that band,
you know, like he wrote, he was nut. But I
think I think music historians and music geeks talk about like, oh,
but listen to the lyrics of light My fire, and
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I'm like, listen to that sound and listen to his voice, yeah,
and listen to the Doors as a whole. But him,
he was a good poet's lyrics that no one ever
understands anyway, I thought, I do, I love your thoughts? Right?
What he had to be a total package front man
for this to be seen. He would perform backwards with
his back towards the crowd, exactly my point. And he
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also pulled his packer out and play you know right,
and no one liked that, but my mom wouldn't like.
The Doors would not be legendary without him doing frontman things.
Lots of people make music, let's feel make good music.
We don't hear all the good music because it's good music,
there's something else about it that makes it go oh.
I don't know if you can ever try this. Name
a band it's boring but makes fantastic music and got famous,
(34:12):
Zach Brown band. I'm not I'm not saying they're boring,
they're just what's to them. They're they're great talented that
make band that makes good music. But they're not like
but they're current and so crazy. Again, we can't assign
their place in history. Yet Zach Brown Band, Okay, Alabama,
you know what I mean? Like they make good good
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I don't think you can be at my point, they're
not mutually exclusive like Amy Winehouse. We'll talk about her
first secon watched the documentary. I did, and I loved it,
but me as a consumer, I didn't know anything about that.
They finished on the doors real quick. You're saying the
doors wouldn't be the doors without him doing all that
crazy stuff. It's my point because their legend and their
nuttiness preceded them, Like you knew that was nuts before
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it even got to you, and it made it bigger.
And the fact that he I had made it bigger,
absolutely all of it did. Died living that way. So
they wouldn't have made their art if they didn't live
an already lifestyle because and a lot of already not all,
but a lot of already lifestyles are filled with excess.
Some already aren't, aren't filled with excessive drugs and alcohol.
Some are filled with excess of working out. You have
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to find your excess, Tim mccraws, they happen to find theirs,
and uh, you know, physical sure because I agree, I
agree with with um Jimi Hendrix, he would have never
liked he would have made that music. All that music
would have never come out of he wasn't on acid.
Same thing with Kark Cobain. You think he's making that stuff.
He's correct, and that's why I want doing that. But
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she but she's saying like she had her voice, soul
came from pain, and that pain wasn't influenced a bet
with the drugs and the alcohol. Yeah, I'm not even
arguing that. I'm absolutely right. I just that's my theory
on it. I had to explain to my kids because
my kids were with me when I was listening to
it as I just got into this whole of talking
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to them about the twenty seven Club, and I really
meet explaining to them what happened to them. You know,
it's like, how do you explain to it eleven year
old why they were in the twenty seven Club. They
made bad choices, like they were too creative, they were
they you know, they didn't know how to handle certain
things in their life. Like it's sad because when you
get when you're twenty seven, you're like, dude, whatever, man
(36:20):
do whatever, live your life that way. It's cool when
you're older and you have kids in a family, You're
just like, damn, that sucks. They didn't make it past that, Yeah,
because Jim Morrison probably wouldn't. I mean, if you were
still so young, so young. Janis Joplin, you watch a
documentary on her, I did right again, She doesn't make
that super soulful, painful music without pain. And what do
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you do with pain? You try to make the pain
go away? And how do you make the pain go away? Well,
one of the ways is drugs by an expression expression.
So yeah, that's my point. All right, doesn't have to
be right, but that's what I that's how I feel.
We wouldn't if they didn't die, that what killed them
made them off? Hey, how many times do we have
this conversation A lot um that the crazying about Jannis Choplin.
(37:02):
We've spiraled and we'll Yeah, so we'll go back to
do it when I will finish. We're almost done anyway.
But the crazy thing about Janis Joplin is that her
biggest hit didn't even come out till she was dead,
which is um me and Bobby McGee. Yeah, and she
didn't write it. Chris jo Stofferson did that's right, right,
So this didn't even come out really until she was dead.
(37:24):
Who gets all that money? He does? He wrote it,
I mean she gets some of the master I don't listen,
I don't know how deals were done. Then, you know,
there's far less money and being the artist in the
if you don't write the song, there's really not a
lot of money in making the record. A couple of
tricks that artists do now is and I'll just speak
in general terms, if you're a major, major artist, you
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can almost demand writing credit even if you don't write,
you can get in and change. That's just a split
split of the money you can get in. And it's
different because the pop world you can get in it
three percent. So let's say you're a I'm just gonna
do someone I don't know anything out on that level Beyonce,
and Beyonce doesn't touch a word of her song. She
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could go in if they're five other songwriters and be like, hey, listen,
I'm not gonna cut it less, I get a writer's credit,
let me change a word, And what are they gonna do?
They want exactly? Yet, um, in the country world's different
because here that's all on equal percentages for the most part,
and there is a there's a respect here of like
you don't cross anyone most of the time. Yeah, most
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I know artists who've got on songs they didn't pop,
but most of the time. One in particular, or I
was like, that's dirty. I remember this. Yeah, I remember
thinking the same thing. Dirty. Want they change one word
only so you get a writing credit on it. It's
a word for a third I believe they say that.
Now writers, and you change your word, you're now a
third writer of the song. So um so that. But
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you know, if you're singing on a song, get a
little bit of the master money. But it's all in songwriting,
all in publishing. Yeah. You know. One time when I
was in my old band, like you know whatever, fifteen
years ago, I rum tied. Look it up and I'm tied. Yeah.
I did a Bob Dylan cover and I put it
up on my Space, and like within two days, Bob
Dylan's publishing. It was just like it's probably Eddie. First off,
(39:09):
it's terrible, Rob Dylan's brother. Yeah, And it was it
was two options. One you can pay us, or two
just take it down now, like pretty much, which is
like you know, I've had too. We were just a
dumb band, like a garage band. We're like, okay, take
it down, Bob Dylan, I don't like this. Well, this
was the best duets of the last twenty five years,
and I believe that's what this podcast is all about. Yeah. Anyway,
(39:32):
the point is duets features are massive. You want to
get it hit, get somebody on that's different and ask
cool or cooler than you, hopefully because people like to
see a song with multile people on it. It's like
having it for dinner. Do you want one course? Yeah? Sure,
it's good, you know, like chicken, let's cool. Get some
corn on there too, sure, Like you know, like you
(39:53):
go to Chili's, they have like the just pick two
of this whole item, like pick three of the item
you want? Do you want a little bit of everything?
I get it? No, No thanks, Jannis Choplin, watch the
documentary and go read the story about this song, because
it's fantastic. That's what I know we're from is this
song for the most part. Um, you know, what's our two?
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It's like, I mean, what a piece of my heart?
What's your fate? Tale? Had with? Yeah? Mercedes Bins on
till made piece of my heart hit. People knew that
it was Janni Shoplin song. Oh yeah, oh lord, won't
you buy Mercedes bins? Yeah? My friends, all Trump portions.
(40:36):
I must make him man so good man. Yeah, okay,
good talk dude, Thank you, appreciate you coming by the podcast.
That's episode one fifty five, thanks to our sponsor. And
that's all. We'll see. We should have a Laura belt
on that rights one fifty six. All right, she's write
a bunch of song, no duet still for me, but
don't her yet past duty. All right, thank you guys.
(40:58):
We'll see. By the way, I check out Eddie podcast
The Store Losers Sports Show podcast here he runs that show. Well,
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all right, thank you sex time everybody
Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Thanks for checking out the Bobby
Bone Show podcast. You know I wanted to share an
episode of the Bobby Cast. It's the show I do
from my house where I talk to creatives, right, songwriters, artists, managers,
record executives, a whole lot more. And sometimes I'll bring
an Eddie and we just talk about music because we're
both music nerds. Now, this is an episode we did
where we broke down the best twenty five duets of
the last twenty five years, and so also throwing my
(00:22):
best top five country duets as well. So, and if
you like this episode, if you love music, you can
subscribe to the Bobby Cast and hear more. Subscribe on
Apple podcasts, listen on iHeart Radio, or wherever you get
your podcasts. Here's episode one fifty five of the Bobby Cast.
Welcome to episode one five. Eddie is jumping in from
(00:42):
The Boybone Show, but the Sore Losers podcasts as well.
That's kind of cool. Yeah, I come from another place. Yeah, yeah,
Eddie is my music friend and we sit and we
talk about music a lot, which is kind of where
the stem from. I'm reading an article that if you
want a song to be a hit. The best thing
to do is to bring another artist in. Really, like
most time when you bring another artists in generates interest.
(01:03):
Usually if you're bring an artist and that means are
good people know them so kind of duets or the thing,
and we can look back at something like FGL meant
to be, which, oh, bb Rex all right, And this
song worked multiple formats because bb Rex is a pop artist,
and on the different formats, what's funny is they played
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to the strengths so much more, meaning country. They did
a whole lot more of FGL and cut some of
the bb right pop. They did a whole lot more
bb and cut some of the Florida Georgia line. Like.
It was like this long piece that they could, you know,
manipulate whichever way they needed to for people to listen
to it. I remember hearing that version of of bb
Rex is sing in the and no need not no
(01:46):
not her part. It's it's the regular Florida Georgia line part,
and I was like, that sounds so weird because I
was used to the country version. Yeah, sinse, So their
story is that I can read you this here. A
new study found that songs with featured guest artists or
duos over the past two decades have become top ten hits,
right and Maroon five MCCRDI B yeah honey, and a
(02:07):
Girl Like You Yeah yeah that same No, that's the
same one. Yeah, I like my money moves. This says
girls like that doesn't name of that song they messed
up to who did that? That's why we're the expert
on the podcast. Remember Katie Perry and Snoop Dogg doing
California Girls. Yo, that's a good one. Yeah. So and
they left some of them Eminem and Rihanna doing Monster
that the fire on the Monster Eminem with Dido doing
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Stand of course, I big that one was huge. That's
that one's was that stand? Yeah? Yeah? No, not stand, No,
it wasn't stand. Yeah it is My Tea's wrong. So
what happened with that one was hey, hey, but he's fan.
The name is standing Tea. Wow, you're right. I didn't
really she picked that out herself after that that song alone.
(02:53):
So h thank dude teaching the stuff right now. I
like that. I wasn't planning to talk about that. I'm
going from memory here. What was that? Didos? I'm called
you can look it up. No, I don't need to
all I'll look it up because I need to. Um.
It's probably called I Want to Thank You. Oh that's
(03:14):
not it for giving me the best day of my life. Yeah.
So she made this into a real song and released
it after she was on it. Yo, slim, it's me dang.
So that's the MM version I ever heard this. So
this came out after stand. Yes, I believe again, I'm
(03:35):
just going for wonder why I would have thought the
hip hop they sampled this is original. This came first
and then they sampled it first. Stand but no, not
saying this was already created. But so why aren't we
like just infiltrated with duets. We kind of are now
(03:58):
if you look around feet years the duets, And that's
my point, and I want to get to some some
of the new stuff and even the best duets of
the past twenty five years. And by duets, it can
also be a feature, right, I just just do it
if there's two people singing in the song. But this
is stand you know, it comes to mind. It's like
John Mayer like he I feel like he's the dude,
(04:18):
like he dates a girl. He's like, hey, feature duet
with me because like really like he d W Taylor
they were dating, right, so I think that story again,
I'm just pulling stuf out of my butt right here.
What I think about the Taylor one is because that
would be half of my Heart. My gotta be okay,
it's John mayor Taylor Swift. I believe that she was
(04:41):
more prominently in the song from what I've heard, could
be wrong. And then once it didn't go so well,
they kind of pulled her back a bit doing some
background book. Oh really like she's saying versus. I don't
know about verses, but she was definitely more in there.
And then John Mayr and Katy Perry did who love?
Yeah so good? Yeah, look up Half of My Heart
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and see if there's any recollection or if I made
it up or if I know insider. And when you
geek over the stuff, like what kind of research you do?
You just google everything? Or I talk to people that
are really you have that? Yeah, well it's my job,
and those people they just kind of vomit all that
information out, yeah, because they know I don't share stuff
(05:27):
like I'm if I note like their stuff. I know
about songs that couch of music, right, now who they're
written about, it would shake the letter No. But there's
one song in particular that if I was like, oh,
you know, the song is about blah blah blah the
whole what. Yeah, dang, that's crazy and it's so cool
they trust you with that. Yeah, Like, dude, you could
really just like oh, but I don't want to because
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then no one will trust you ever again. Correct, Mike,
you don't talk about no, Okay, it doesn't matter. I'm
not gonna say I'm not even gonna allude to it. Dang,
that's so cool. But if you prove trustworthy, then people
trust you. Yeah, And you have to show that you're
trustworthy and little bits first, and they give you middle
bits and then finally people are like I one love
music first and form more than I love gossip. I
(06:09):
thought you couldn't say, God, no more than I love
goss than I love gossip for what it's about, Like
I love you And the thing about my ex girlfriend's
record when it comes out later, I haven't heard it,
but there are songs about me, but I respect the
music so much that she was like, Hey, should I
send you the songs? You'll something? I was like, nope,
(06:29):
because I'll be like, don't put it out, but I
want your record to be what you wanted to be.
Zero songs got me, ten songs about me. It needs
to be what you're feeling. So from respect for the
music and you as an artist, don't send me crap
because me the humans gonna go. Don't put that out
on me, the person who loves music goes. I don't
even want to hear it. You just should put out
what you want to put out, and if it's slamming
me or are loving me or mostly slamming me, then
(06:52):
that's what you should do. Yeah, slamming me. Yeah? Do
you like knowing all that stuff? Though? Like do you
like knowing what the song was written about? Because then
then your mind just takes you there. I know sometimes
not because I like to have sign at times my
own narrative things. Because I think we hear a song,
we go, this makes me feel this way, But if
we know what it's really written about, we can't feel
(07:12):
the way that we would have loved to have felt,
or we feel the way that we were needing to feel. Right, Mike,
do you find thing about that? Okay? Then I find
not true? Well, you'd say why Okay, So that could
be it. Yeah, it could be that the version that
you're hearing without her really is because they pulled her
back off of it because they decided she didn't she
(07:33):
shouldn't be on it. That really could be it. So
I wonder how all these go down, too, Like how
do they get asked? They probably say they're probaly lay
in bed. I was just thinking and that's it, You're like,
all right, let's go No, but they were dating, I thought,
or maybe it was after the fact time and then
(07:56):
they recorded and then I don't know, no, because it
needed and after Taylor or before and you know what,
I know stuff about that doesn't matter. I know too much.
I'm going to stop talking. Okay. There are those places
too where I got stop talking because I know too much. Um.
And I don't even like to stand o too much
(08:16):
because then it's like shut up, oh cool guy. But
I have to stop because I got to say something
I was supposed to say. That being said, I want
to hear this list. This whole thing is the best
duets of the last twenty five years, and one of
the recent duets is Brentley Gilbert and lindsay El. This
song flying up charts right now your ex girlfriend? Right?
What happens in a small town? Small season? Stop? When
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I read that article about features and duets, I was like, Oh,
this is what's happening now with the Brentley Lindsay song.
Not because she makes girlfriend but separate everybody. So there's
(09:09):
that one. What happens in a small town. We'll do
some country ones first, all right, let's by the way.
Eddie was like a bad goodbye dude. I just like,
I mean when this song came out, and I'm kind
of like you with like the emo music like stuff
that just pulls your heart. Dude. I remember being young
(09:32):
listening to the song and get in tear eyed and
I'm like, what do I know about this crap? It's
a club black and white one. Now, to be fair,
this is not inside the twenty five years. I missed
it by what one is by a year. I'm sure
it's something fast forward because when they hit that like
(09:56):
towards the end, when they go power like the song
it so much it's given me like chill. Remember like
being a kid hearing this take it dude, you know,
how far do you want to go out? And didn't
mind they're both because when I the verse after this
and then they do it together, where that's the powerful.
There's no good window. The wall who's good bye, would
(10:19):
never to leave, try to get to keep you through
the clown here it is there may be no way
(10:39):
to fly and the clown, I mean space too clear
that I can't leave. We the man good bye, good bye, dude,
(11:10):
I can't. So you remember it, of course, gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that was so powerful. And I don't even know if
it was huge or it made all right listen all
the time I kissed ninety, that's what I knew. Mine
was kay frog. Yeah, I know the value. So I
didn't make the list, but I did um put it
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with country duets. My favorite. He put that whiskey lullaby
that is your favorite. It's such a good song. Brad Paisley,
Alice Krouse, Finally Drink and Brad Paisley writes most of
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his songs, he didn't write this one. I remember Brad
coming in once and I was like, dude, with my
favorite song you ever done. And I don't know if
if that's insulting or it's not an insult, but it's like, oh,
insulting because to him, he's done so much and he's
had so much. So he's had so many songs he's
written and put out his down he was Entertainer of
the Year. He's had everything right exactly. But this song,
these slow songs, this is one of the best, like
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top five best country duets, and I have my top five.
They're not really in any order. This other one was
not a single. This I'll Be the Moon, Oh dude,
I just I listen to this now still, like it's
in my rotation of songs to listen to. Yeah, and
I'll Be the Moon is Dirks and Marion Morris. Yeah,
Ryan heard wrote this and dude, honestly, and I'm pretty
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good at listening to music and breaking down lyrics and
kind of understanding what they're saying. And I never really
paid attention to it. But when Ryan Ryan one time
talked about this and talked about, you know, is it
being an affair and then being okay with that, it
was like, and that's what it means, Like you're gonna
metaphorically call that the sun and the moon, Like he
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can be the sun and I be on the other
side of the world, be of the moon. And it's like,
I'll I'm okay waiting if that's the only way I
can have you is that I'll be the moon. That's intense, right,
Like that to me is like that's just the thinking
that never would cross my mind. And they turn it
into a song, a beautiful song. I don't want to be.
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I don't want to be a secret, but I will
if you want. They came in and played this from
Darks's record. Yeah, I had Darks and Marion come in
and play this together. They were like, I'm not a single.
I was like, I don't care, just play it. He can.
I'll be okay. But you said that they may they
do these things kind of like as like their most
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the data says these are most successful. So this is
kind of why labels do sometimes put these together and
arrange him and release him. Yeah, but in this case,
this wasn't even a single. It wasn't a single. I
don't know why. And sometimes they don't make those decisions
till later. They could have recorded it going to be
a single for some reason ended up changing. Interesting. I
remember Dark put out a song called what the Hell
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or something, and they pulled it because Darks like hell
being a single and so all those factors it may
or may not have changed what the next single was,
what the next single was, because you don't do two
slow songs in a row. You don't do, you know, so,
I don't know why, but that song is so good.
That's then my top duets. It's a good one. Twenty
five years. I also have picture from Kid Rock and
Sheryl Crow. I mean it's classic, right shoot thousand and one,
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eighteen years ago. Would you consider this country? Yeah? I
don't know why. I don't think Sheryl's country. Then she's
not country now? Really Kid Rock has never been country
kind of. He lives in Nationville now, I mean he's
not a country hit though, has he? Yeah? Wolves in
London and oh oh yeah, I guess that was yeah? Yeah,
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what was that done? It's hard to sing another song
when this one's playing what was called he Wears Fishing
on the Ducks all summer long? That song, note, Mike,
you pull it up picture. Cheryl Crow wasn't the original
singer on that song? Who was another country artist? Really? Yeah?
And so and again they were dating Kid Rock and
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Cheryl Crowe? Were they not when this one thing? I
don't know if they were dating then or not, because
I feel like that's special too, Like if there is
romance between that, probably how you get them or you
get them the studio and then you start dating after it.
It's like a little tactic that you do. Yeah, It's like, Hey,
I want to meet somebody. How do I get them
to come in? Ask him to do a duet? It's
like putting somebody in music video? Who is your Allison More? Yeah?
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So she was the original one on the song? Oh,
I mean huge, huge advantage to put Cheryl Crow on it.
That could have that could have made the song. Yeah,
are that crazy? That is crazy good one. That's one
of my top I love this You and Tequila from
Kenny Chesney and Grace Potter. Oh yeah, twenty crazy jam right,
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so good harmonies are here? One more n kill but
just want one more is now so good. Put that
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on the list. Another one that I put in is
the Brooks and Done with Reba. Yeah, cowgirls don't Cry? Yes?
Is that a duet or a triplet? Well? Or is
that a three way? Is that a threesome? It's two
artists like Brooks and Dons considered an artist. But yeah,
they should make another category for three and then they
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would dominate it obviously because this is good. But it's
like two artists. Yeah, I'm saying girls. The whole song
is like the dad's like telling her, hey, you fall
up a horse. Cowgirls won't cry, get up, Hey this happened.
Cowgirs wont cry, get up. And then at the end,
the dad's dying and she's like she's the cows because
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cowgirls don't cry, and it turned it on him. That's
a good one I put down in the top five.
And if I had to do one more, because I
have a bunch of them up here, Whiskey the Laby,
I'll be the moon. Cowgirls don't Cry. Oh that's five.
You know the one that you have more? You have
more on there? I do like this is the probably
the ultimate, it's probably the biggest. Again, the ultimate we
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know Tim and Faith like they're married. It's love. So
that makes all this way more special than just too
hardist singing a song. I wonder if there are a
lot of duets where people were together and now they
hate each other and we feel worse about it. Because
on the show, on the radio show, we were talking
about the song from Dixie Chicks, Cowboy Take Me Away
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was written about Emily Robinson and Charlie Robinson no longer
together and they're not together, but it was written about
you know them, seeing that happen. Ye, it's written about
Emily fallen in love with Mary. Wrote it with Marcus
Hummond about Emily and charl in love with Charlie. Now
they're not together. But if you know that story, do
you think of it differently and go, oh, this is
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written about their love. Well, ever since you told that story,
I heard it a couple of times after that, and
I've automatically thought about that story now, so I don't
even think about I mean, I don't know, I never
thought about anything, but now I think about Charlie and Emily,
like it doesn't kill it that they're not together, because
that's real life. The fact that they got divorced whatever.
Real life, we never would have known that story wasn't
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even out. But the song, I mean that that still lives.
Like you talk about, that song still lives, and if
it was about them fallen in love, It'll always be
about them fallen in love. It's five o'clock somewhere. Alan Jackson,
Jimmy Buffett. Did you like this one? Yes? You like
Jimmy Buffett. Though he's my favorite, I was never a
lover lover of this song. There was a guy in
high school named Brian Wagner, and this dude was like
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a surfer kind of a kid or whatever, and his
parents were big Jimmy Buffett fans, and he got me
into Jimmy Buffett, and I loved that whole like party
Margarita's and parrots and like tropical vibe. Like I just
love his whatever he stood for, that's your thing. I'm
a beach guy man. Buffets my dude. So when you
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put Alan Jackson, who was I mean the king of
just country music, nineties country really like the Chattahoochie and
all that, and then put them together with Jimmy Buffett
and loving life, I wonder how many of these two
were saying in the same studio back in the day
versus now. It's a good question because you have you,
we have like the raging idiots. You have duets with
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We have duets with Carrie Underwood, carry Charles, Charles, Kelly,
Kelsey Ballerini. So, and how many of those were done
in the same time exactly? Well, maybe same room, but
we went at the same time. Like when Carrie went
up to saying you were there, I wasn't there, correct,
and I think I'm have been sick or something it.
Carrie went up and just nailed it and was like,
all right, So that's just us. And why would you
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try to schedule time and your busy schedule to both
be in the same room unless it's a special moment
you have to be there, Like why would you why
would you record at the same time? Technology man a video? Okay,
I guess that was I mean videos now, like, no,
they don't really matter that much anymore. People don't way
too much money on videos now and who never, I
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don't see him. You can just put up a lyric video,
the one with the bouncy ball on the bottom. Yeah,
just anything one more guard Patrician, big Jam afraid you
know what I've realized while talking about this, I like
my due at slow perfect port. What's the fast one
that we talked about one fast somewhere? Okay, yeah, true,
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but all my favorites, the ones I pulled, are all
slow ones. Yeah. You did say baby Rex in Floorgio.
Oh that was an example that exam top Yeah, but again,
it's such a big one, like massive, I'm so right
Dan and Shay not to do it, but they're two dudes.
Tequila was such a big song. Had the FGL song
not existed, that song what to set every record. But
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that's how big the FGL song was. It blew people huge.
It was so big that haters and country music didn't
want acknowledge. It was that big country music haters that
they didn't even want to acknowledge it. Yeah, uh, pop
here you got some of the best duets twenty five years,
Jay Z, Alicia Keys, it's still good. Yes, it comes
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on and but Eddie, I wonder if it's because we're
in our late thirties. This wasn't my thing, Like I
wasn't listening to this kind of music when it came out,
but it stood out over everything else when it did
come out, so I was like, I don't care, I
love it. Then Alicia Keys put the song out after that,
It's just a song. Would it have been a bigger
song of it was Beyonce? Because again, I feel like
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it's really important Beyonce's not from New York, Texas. Hed
doesn't acknowledge the song from Texas. I think that the
reason that Alicia Keys does it the New York Girl
is because it's a New York Girl and you need
someone in jay Z's the New York guy. So I
don't think it could have been Beyonce. Speaking of maybe
off track a little bit, But do you think Alicia
Key is gonna do good at the Grammys? Yeah, she'd
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be fine. They won't put it in a situation to
not do well, okay, meaning they're not gonna have her
up doing a comedy monologue. I just don't see her
as a host, Okay. I don't think they have her
traditional host like should come out and do something a
little funny. She'd probably play a little funny song, maybe
on her piano. They won't take someone like that who's
so good at what they do and put them in
a whole new world and give him a chance to fail.
You get someone like that for their name, what they're
good at, and you let them do what they're good Okay,
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you know what I mean. It's good answer. Uh do
you remember Mariah Carey boys Man once we Day? What
no play? Let me see You're shining down on me
from Heaven. No no, this song was massive. They sang
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this together in the studio, the little videos down from
Heaven Lust the Way. No No, this song was so big.
It was number one for like twelve weeks. I've heard it.
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I've heard it one sweet day. There was boys to
Men at their height and Mariah Carey height. That's a
massive song. Holy crap. The other big one I remember
this is Megan Trainer John Legend from twenty fifteen. It
wasn't like a super super super smash, but I loved it.
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I feel like that was last year I come seeing
good Bye You like those roles. I love it because
I had runs called runs yeah runs yeah yeah yeah?
Uh shallow from Stars Born, Oh yeah that's lady. Actually
you are you happy? And this model need is there
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something new? Usurgion Fool like the movie I've never seen it.
Oh yeah, it's his movie and I'm not gonna be
one that goes it's the greatest movie ever because it's not.
But it's really good. But when you say something's really good,
it's usually right. You know. Really, you're not to follow
the hype kind of guy. And I wanted to not
like it. That's how much fault not follow the hype guy.
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I wanted to be like, come on, guys, my roll
my eyes. It's good. Yeah it was. I've seen other versions,
so I know how. I kind of know how I
got singing that this clip we have. What do you
think about him? Though? Like, I mean, this is gonna
it's already won some awards, right, they're playing it at
the Oscars, right, So I mean, this is Bradley Cooper.
This is why I like it so much. The movie
is because he had to had to do that, Like
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he had to to sing, He had to learn to
play guitar. Oh he didn't know how to play guitar
or anything nothing and sing and do it. And then
he gets on and does our great job. Props to him, man,
And then as someone who you know plays music, and
then I know, like in the big scene at the
beginning where he's playing a huge this huge stadium or
now it's each festival like that was now stage coach,
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stage coach, and like you just see all the things
they had to do to make that movie work, and
it's really cool. Yeah, you'll like it. You should watch it.
I will. Yeah, And then it reminds you of like
other artists too that we know, and you're like, well,
and then Eddie Vetter is my favorite, and he went
and lived any Vetter he did to kind of learn
his behavior mannerisms. Yeah, remember this one dilemma Nelly and
Kelly Roland. Of course it shook up every of course
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before you know. The other one was Nelly and Timograw. Yeah,
which I'm surprised that wasn't in one of the country ones.
Well because it wasn't country. Was that? Was that a
big pop hit? Yeah? Over and over country really did
country I played at all? Only pop did, because it's
all in my head. Shook my world out. Dang ude,
you're right. Yeah, So I think about it over and over.
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I mean, think about when this came out for Tim
mcgarwy got on a rap record. It wasn't something everybody
was the country wasn't doing that wearing his cowboy hat
and for Nellie to be able to see out to
the box and go, let's bring out a country singer.
They were way ahead of their time. Nellie's got something
in him where he kind of like maybe he doesn't
see genre lance or something because he's real close to country,
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Like maybe he's from Missouri. Maybe that's that's always what
I thought, Like you grow up in the Middlewest. You know,
someone considered this almost a staff that you have a
country root. And I mean he's done did country grammar,
country grammar, all of that. I feel like he does
have deep country reads. We did he put us all
they wanted to go country at one point I think
Nellie did, oh yeah, yeah, Ago this shook it. That
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shook bb rexa fgl meant to be obviously. You know
what song I loved to duet was any of the
best duets in the past twenty five years in my opinion,
That Pink and that Nate Rous from Fun when they
did just give Me Heason Get that was I love
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this song. Yeah, that's clearly a fun song right like
the band Fun because it sounds like them. I hate
they're not together any too fun Like this Guy's get
one of the best voices. I've ever heard his range.
It sounds like a girl. Sometimes they must have just
something going on, because Jack the guy now is in
the bleachers. Yes, he's the he's the guitarists and bleachers
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are good now. But that's not Fun. But Fun was
when Fun came out. It sounds like we're saying, but
that's not Fun, man, the Fun the band isn't even
like current to people. And and they only had what
they weren't around for that long. Right as far as
far as they're like huge success, I don't I remember
a blit of their warriors. Yeah, that's nothing. Fun's first
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song some Nights? Was it some Nights? No? No, no,
that sounds like it said that one weird young I
thought it was weird. That's it. I could be wrong.
What friends are in the bathroom getting tired? She was awaiting,
just as this is not a duet. The band was
just so good Sunglass and then Nate rus can never
take off himself. I know, I gave it to you
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months ago. That was good. And then after that was
I Believe some Nights, Some Nights, and then this is
that jam. But my favorite was carry on Me Too.
Still it's still my favorite. I love it again. I'm
a sucker for slow pianos, Fun, carry on, carry on,
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so good. Well, I woke to the song. I'll listen
to this today now. I never reminded of it cutting
like nine today. You can listen to all fun today.
After if I played, I was like, I like playing,
and I was just jamming out to some other stuff.
You know what I what trail I went down recently
was the twenty seven Club trail. I didn't mean to,
but I just kind of started listening to all their
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music and can I brought me down a little bit.
I wouldn't see just doing that. Died early? Yeah, can
I Can I give you the other side of that? Ye,
A bit of the darker side of it, and not
in a bad way. But I would say, because here's
you want to give the story of the twenty seven Club. Yeah,
twenty seven club is the age twenty seven that a
group of artists, I would say artists because they're even
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I mean I even think maybe Heath Ledgers in as well.
But like artists died at age twenty seven, and they
call it the twenty seven Club because they're all probably
still together in heaven or something. You know something, I'll
died at twenty seven ye basic, right, So okay, let's
let's get one on as I tell the story. For example,
you're going Coban now, I was gonna go Jimmy Hendrix, Okay, Nirvana,
Amy Winehouse, um, Jim Morrison a lot. Right. Here's my
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theory as to why it's actually not bad, which but
it makes it kind of dark. I don't think they
would have been able to create such magic stuff had
they been normal. You know, this is my theory anyway, Yes,
to create and we always have the argument we create
crazy stuff. You have to be crazy to create crazy
good stuff that's so so different. You have to be different.
And I would say what made them specials also what
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killed them that they were out of control, you know
where they were out of control musical and had no rules.
They were also out of control of the personal alie
that had no rules. You can't just kind of pick
a spot and go I'm fully nutty in this part
of my life. But you know what, I'm going to
count it the rest of the day. So the fact
that Kurt Cobain was able to take a sound and
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elevate it he did. They didn't create that sound. You know,
they were actually the first ones from that scene to
bust through with that sound. But the fact that he
was able to do that, he was only able to
do that because he was nuts. That music would have
never happened had he not been reckless and crazy and nuts.
And that same characteristic is what killed him. So if
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he didn't have if he didn't have the characters killed,
h wouldn't have had the characters that made the music.
Amy Winehouse the same thing. Jim Morrison from the Doors
like that dude was insane but genius at the same time,
and what killed him was his insanity. So my thing is, Okay,
it sucks. They all died at twenty seven, but we
did never had their music had they not been nutty
to begin with. Does that make sense? It does? And
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I agree with you for some of them. I don't
agree with Jim Morrison or Amy Winehouse because what because
Jim Morrison had a band, like a really good band
that made really good He was the poet of that band,
you know, like he wrote, he was nut. But I
think I think music historians and music geeks talk about like, oh,
but listen to the lyrics of light My fire, and
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I'm like, listen to that sound and listen to his voice, yeah,
and listen to the Doors as a whole. But him,
he was a good poet's lyrics that no one ever
understands anyway, I thought, I do, I love your thoughts? Right?
What he had to be a total package front man
for this to be seen. He would perform backwards with
his back towards the crowd, exactly my point. And he
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also pulled his packer out and play you know right,
and no one liked that, but my mom wouldn't like.
The Doors would not be legendary without him doing frontman things.
Lots of people make music, let's feel make good music.
We don't hear all the good music because it's good music,
there's something else about it that makes it go oh.
I don't know if you can ever try this. Name
a band it's boring but makes fantastic music and got famous,
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Zach Brown band. I'm not I'm not saying they're boring,
they're just what's to them. They're they're great talented that
make band that makes good music. But they're not like
but they're current and so crazy. Again, we can't assign
their place in history. Yet Zach Brown Band, Okay, Alabama,
you know what I mean? Like they make good good
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I don't think you can be at my point, they're
not mutually exclusive like Amy Winehouse. We'll talk about her
first secon watched the documentary. I did, and I loved it,
but me as a consumer, I didn't know anything about that.
They finished on the doors real quick. You're saying the
doors wouldn't be the doors without him doing all that
crazy stuff. It's my point because their legend and their
nuttiness preceded them, Like you knew that was nuts before
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it even got to you, and it made it bigger.
And the fact that he I had made it bigger,
absolutely all of it did. Died living that way. So
they wouldn't have made their art if they didn't live
an already lifestyle because and a lot of already not all,
but a lot of already lifestyles are filled with excess.
Some already aren't, aren't filled with excessive drugs and alcohol.
Some are filled with excess of working out. You have
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to find your excess, Tim mccraws, they happen to find theirs,
and uh, you know, physical sure because I agree, I
agree with with um Jimi Hendrix, he would have never
liked he would have made that music. All that music
would have never come out of he wasn't on acid.
Same thing with Kark Cobain. You think he's making that stuff.
He's correct, and that's why I want doing that. But
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she but she's saying like she had her voice, soul
came from pain, and that pain wasn't influenced a bet
with the drugs and the alcohol. Yeah, I'm not even
arguing that. I'm absolutely right. I just that's my theory
on it. I had to explain to my kids because
my kids were with me when I was listening to
it as I just got into this whole of talking
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to them about the twenty seven Club, and I really
meet explaining to them what happened to them. You know,
it's like, how do you explain to it eleven year
old why they were in the twenty seven Club. They
made bad choices, like they were too creative, they were
they you know, they didn't know how to handle certain
things in their life. Like it's sad because when you
get when you're twenty seven, you're like, dude, whatever, man
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do whatever, live your life that way. It's cool when
you're older and you have kids in a family, You're
just like, damn, that sucks. They didn't make it past that, Yeah,
because Jim Morrison probably wouldn't. I mean, if you were
still so young, so young. Janis Joplin, you watch a
documentary on her, I did right again, She doesn't make
that super soulful, painful music without pain. And what do
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you do with pain? You try to make the pain
go away? And how do you make the pain go away? Well,
one of the ways is drugs by an expression expression.
So yeah, that's my point. All right, doesn't have to
be right, but that's what I that's how I feel.
We wouldn't if they didn't die, that what killed them
made them off? Hey, how many times do we have
this conversation A lot um that the crazying about Jannis Choplin.
(37:02):
We've spiraled and we'll Yeah, so we'll go back to
do it when I will finish. We're almost done anyway.
But the crazy thing about Janis Joplin is that her
biggest hit didn't even come out till she was dead,
which is um me and Bobby McGee. Yeah, and she
didn't write it. Chris jo Stofferson did that's right, right,
So this didn't even come out really until she was dead.
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Who gets all that money? He does? He wrote it,
I mean she gets some of the master I don't listen,
I don't know how deals were done. Then, you know,
there's far less money and being the artist in the
if you don't write the song, there's really not a
lot of money in making the record. A couple of
tricks that artists do now is and I'll just speak
in general terms, if you're a major, major artist, you
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can almost demand writing credit even if you don't write,
you can get in and change. That's just a split
split of the money you can get in. And it's
different because the pop world you can get in it
three percent. So let's say you're a I'm just gonna
do someone I don't know anything out on that level Beyonce,
and Beyonce doesn't touch a word of her song. She
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could go in if they're five other songwriters and be like, hey, listen,
I'm not gonna cut it less, I get a writer's credit,
let me change a word, And what are they gonna do?
They want exactly? Yet, um, in the country world's different
because here that's all on equal percentages for the most part,
and there is a there's a respect here of like
you don't cross anyone most of the time. Yeah, most
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I know artists who've got on songs they didn't pop,
but most of the time. One in particular, or I
was like, that's dirty. I remember this. Yeah, I remember
thinking the same thing. Dirty. Want they change one word
only so you get a writing credit on it. It's
a word for a third I believe they say that.
Now writers, and you change your word, you're now a
third writer of the song. So um so that. But
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you know, if you're singing on a song, get a
little bit of the master money. But it's all in songwriting,
all in publishing. Yeah. You know. One time when I
was in my old band, like you know whatever, fifteen
years ago, I rum tied. Look it up and I'm tied. Yeah.
I did a Bob Dylan cover and I put it
up on my Space, and like within two days, Bob
Dylan's publishing. It was just like it's probably Eddie. First off,
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it's terrible, Rob Dylan's brother. Yeah, And it was it
was two options. One you can pay us, or two
just take it down now, like pretty much, which is
like you know, I've had too. We were just a
dumb band, like a garage band. We're like, okay, take
it down, Bob Dylan, I don't like this. Well, this
was the best duets of the last twenty five years,
and I believe that's what this podcast is all about. Yeah. Anyway,
(39:32):
the point is duets features are massive. You want to
get it hit, get somebody on that's different and ask
cool or cooler than you, hopefully because people like to
see a song with multile people on it. It's like
having it for dinner. Do you want one course? Yeah? Sure,
it's good, you know, like chicken, let's cool. Get some
corn on there too, sure, Like you know, like you
(39:53):
go to Chili's, they have like the just pick two
of this whole item, like pick three of the item
you want? Do you want a little bit of everything?
I get it? No, No thanks, Jannis Choplin, watch the
documentary and go read the story about this song, because
it's fantastic. That's what I know we're from is this
song for the most part. Um, you know, what's our two?
(40:14):
It's like, I mean, what a piece of my heart?
What's your fate? Tale? Had with? Yeah? Mercedes Bins on
till made piece of my heart hit. People knew that
it was Janni Shoplin song. Oh yeah, oh lord, won't
you buy Mercedes bins? Yeah? My friends, all Trump portions.
(40:36):
I must make him man so good man. Yeah, okay,
good talk dude, Thank you, appreciate you coming by the podcast.
That's episode one fifty five, thanks to our sponsor. And
that's all. We'll see. We should have a Laura belt
on that rights one fifty six. All right, she's write
a bunch of song, no duet still for me, but
don't her yet past duty. All right, thank you guys.
(40:58):
We'll see. By the way, I check out Eddie podcast
The Store Losers Sports Show podcast here he runs that show. Well,
lunchbots would argue with me, but that's why he does
the whole. She says. He is the sports genius, therefore
he knows everything about sports. Now you have it. Also
check out The Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson. It's a
Lastyle podcast for a for you ladies out there. Really good,
(41:18):
all right, thank you sex time everybody
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