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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Gets your ball bowl.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We were won on one on our bets last night, Amy,
So the Thunder did win, they did cover, but chet
holmwred and I have a double double, so we're back
to even. So just heads up.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I love even, I love winning.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I love even. I just don't like losing, but it
comes with it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So yeah, he just talked me all around. Yeah, I
would say love winning, be fine with even. Don't like losing,
but yes you have you do lose some. But we're
back to even. Correct, Okay, good, Just making sure did
you watch Amy?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
No? Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I So the weather is bad in Arkansas and the
Arkansas Awtfall game is supposed to be tonight at seven pm,
so we're gonna leave it like one or two today
to get over there. The game is now at eleven
o'clock am, So we're finishing the show and I have
to go right now to go get to the game
in time. So that's where what I'm about to do.
But we're gonna play a full timergrawl interview. But what
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happened on the show was we just ad Tim. But
there were a lot of these great rodeo like current
ranked high rodeo athletes, right what do you call them athletes? Rodents?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
No, No, it's definitely not.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay, I don't know what you call them, like rodeo
rodeo or rodeo stars. But they came in too, and
we did a big talk with them as well, So
we're gonna play that as part of this. So you're
gonna hear Tim McGraw and you can hear all the cowboys,
all the rodeos, sure, past and president and enjoy and
we will see you guys. We will have a new
show on Monday, So be back. We will have a
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new show on Monday. All right, buy everybody on the
Bobby Bones Show now, Tim, good to see you, buddy,
You too, man, Before we talk about the real stuff
I want to talk about, like the live stuff.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Are you Are you okay getting there? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I know you had all the surgeries.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
I had a gosh three back surgeries, oh wow, double
knee replacements. So why all it was the last six
six eight months?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, you put it all off and you did all
at once, like a wholesale like you go to Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah, I had had a back before tour last year
and that sort of went south on me at the
beginning of the tour and so sort of compensating for that.
My knees went out like three weeks into the tour,
so I had to finish the tour with my knees
completely gone and my back gone. And then as soon
as I got off tour, I went in and had
the surgeries done, and then I had my knee surgeries done.
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And then in the process of recovering from my knee surgeries,
my back when went out again, I had to have
another back surgery. So some mornings are better than others.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But yeah, I saw you on slowly getting better a
billboard and it was like Tim Agree playing the Big
the Rodeo here. Yeah, yeah, the Big Rodeo and three nights,
but your nights May thirty first. And I saw you
up there and I thought, damn, because I know you
have the surgeries. So are you in performance? Are you
having to get back and performance shape?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
And yeah, I'm having to That's where I'm at now.
It's slowly trying. You know, the lot of rehab, a
lot of PT Now I'm slowly getting back into some
sort of routine. It's very light, but uh, working my
way up to it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Wow. Yeah, that sucks I'm sorry that I hope that
you feel good like it can get back? What can
you get back? Ceiling? Like, can you get back to
one hundred percent?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I'll get close, hopefully one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But we'll see the song that you got Parker McCall
him to do your paper umbrellas. Park was perfect for it.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
That's what we thought. You know, that song is on
the Standing Room Only album. It's one of my favorite
cuts on the album, and I always wanted it to
see the light of day. And when it came time
to pick another single, I wanted something off of that album,
and there were about three songs and that was the
first choice, and then I wanted, you know, a new
artist on it sort of freshen it up because you know,
it had been on the album for so long and
people had heard it. And Parker was our first choice
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because I like the music. I thought his voice and
the type of music he does fit that song perfectly.
And you know, the biggest fear you have is when
you ask somebody to sing on a song that they're
not going to like the song when you send it
to him, and he loved it and put his vocal
on it and did a great job on it, so
we decided to go with it.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, and I do, and I know Parker, and I
do know he loved the song. I think I would
worry because I am so anxious and neurotic about everything
that if I asked and they were like, oh, I
feel like I should do this song by Tim McGraw
and I want to do it, and he doesn't say no,
but he still does it, but still doesn't like it.
I don't like the song, Yeah, like I would go
through that. I'd spin in circles. I'd have such neurosis.
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Do you have neurosis at all about what songs you cut?
Do you have a second guess them after you're done,
or do you just feel like this is it and
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
No, I'm pretty you know. I listen to so many songs,
you know, And I write for every album. I always
write stuff, and I have an idea of the songs
that I want to do, and so I write for it,
and then I think I've got five or six really
good ones that are gonna work, and then all of
a sudden, you know, the Warm Boys or Tom Douglas
or Laurie McKenna send me a song that's sort of
the same subject matter that I'd written about, and I go, well, damn,
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that's way better than minds of mine goes down the list.
But every now and then one or two of my
make it. But I always have, you know, fifteen or
twenty songs to go to the studio with, wuld cut them.
And you know, some of your favorites you think are
going to be great when you finish them out, they
don't turn out as good as you wanted. And some
of the ones you thought were sort of the lower
ones on the totem pole rise up and become better
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after you record them.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
What about in the middle of the creative process? It
could be songwriting, it could be acting. But do you
ever get so far in the middle you can't even
judge your own work anymore because you're so in it.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
No, well, well, actings is a different story, because I
never like what I do doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You know, it's hard to watch yourself.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
It's hard to watch yourself because all I see is
me pretending to be someone else. You know, because you
know yourself so well. That's the toughest music. Not so
much music is you know, you go in I'm pretty
solid and sure about what I like and what I
want to do, and when it's all said and done
and when we finish it and mix it all out,
you know, I know instantly which ones are going to
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for me, You're going to work or not.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
If you're doing a live show and you see a
couple and you could tell that probably maybe the guy
got dragged by his wife or she got dragged by
the husband, and one of them is like it singing everyone,
and the other one's like.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Oh, I've had that.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, what how do you?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
What do you do well? To me, it's odd because
you know there could be you know, twenty five thousand
people are having a great time, and I can spot
one person who just wishes they weren't there, and it's
like a challenge to me to win them over.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So you take it and you try to win them.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I try to win that one person over that's not
getting into and it's usually a husband probably that doesn't
want to be there.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Here.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I had to look at foreheads because when I looked
at faces, I started thinking that whatever I felt about
their face or how I would do that face meant
that's how they were feeling, like projecting. And once I
was doing a stand up show and this guy was
he's hating it. I knew he didn't want to be there. Yeah,
And at the end he came back like a meet
and greet after the show, and he was like, I
loved it. And that was kind of where it's like, Oh,
just because he had a face that I would have
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had if I wasn't doesn't mean that's his not enjoying it.
Nice right, because I started serting my feelings into people
in the crowd.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, you started projecting with how you would react as
opposed to how somebody else reacts. I had that before
I had this tour. I had. There's one guy and
during the middle of the show he just kept flipping
me off no way, and his wife was having a
great time, she was enjoying it. And every time I'd
look over, he'd be going flipping me off and saying
you suck, you suck, and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
So, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
So I kept like, I'm gonna work this guy. I'm
gonna work this guy. So about halfway through it, he walks.
He starts walking to the front of stage, making his
way front stage, and I'm thinking, all right, this is
gonna go one or two ways here and he walks
up and he's a military guy, and he hands me
and does the coin thing, shakes my hand and gives
me a thumbs up, and I'm like, all right, I
want him over.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Weird communication way early communication was it's a little odd,
the middle finger on the whole early part.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
I know I did switched halfway through.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It was Stone call Steve Austin. Did know that was Stone?
Culs I love you.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
If it was stonecalls Steve Austin And he was walking
towards the stage and been flipping me off a bail.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Hey, your daughter off Broadway? The babe, Okay, that's pretty awesome.
The last time I talked to you were in New York.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
How do you feel watching somebody you love do something
that you love? Oh?
Speaker 5 (07:51):
It makes me more nervous than anything that I do.
Same when Faith was like when we were torn together,
I'm more nervous for her than I am for me.
And then you watch your daughter on Broadway. And then
just a couple of weeks ago we went up and
she did a performance at Carnegie Hall that's going to
be on PBS on Veterans today, So you get way
more nervous to the point of shaking when your kids
are doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Did you try to talk her out of pursuing being
creative for a career or.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
No, I mean to me, it's with my girls. It's
always been, you know, chase your passion. Whatever your passion is,
chase it, no matter. Don't worry about money, don't worry
about you know what kind of job it is. If
you have a passion for something, chase it, because that's
going to be where your enjoyment and life comes out of.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
What do you think the key to your longevity is?
And I'm going to ask that and then also give
a little of context here. At times we'll be talking about,
you know, biggest artists of the eighties, nineties, two thousands,
and there's like three decades including right this second, where
you have extreme relevance. That's very rare. There's like two
people that we go nineties artists but really aren't considered
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nineties artists even though they were crushing it into the nineties.
And you and Chesney are kind of those guys who
are still relevant today as much as you were twenty
five years ago. Why.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I don't know I'd like to think it's the music
as much as anything. Songs I think for me the
bottom line, because you know, everybody in this town can sing.
Everybody in this town sings great. Every artist is an
artist for a reason. But the songs at the end
of the day, the songs are the thing that make
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the mark. It's not necessarily the artist. To me, it's
the songs. And if you have good songs, I think
that's the key to longevity.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Is there anybody that you're close with that's part of
your immediate team that has walked alongside you and as
country music has changed even sonically instrumentally that I said, hey,
why don't we shift it a bit? And that has
kept your sound relevant.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah. I mean, I don't know if there's anybody around
me that's done that. It's more, you know, I know
what I do, and I know what I do well.
But also here stuff that I like, and I hear
newer stuff that I like, older stuff that like, pop stuff,
rock stuff that I like, and I'll hear different sounds
or different mixing techniques or you know, different instrumentation that
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I haven't used.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Before, so you'll chase that.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
So I don't knows, Sarah, I don't know if i'd
call it chasing, but I will steal stuff sometimes and
then sort of change it in the way that sounds
more like me, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
The appropriate way.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
And I've done and I'm experimented with different things, you know,
different progressive sort of things, and I'm always experimenting with music,
trying different things. I don't think that there's a particular
style that I consistently do. I mean, there's probably a
consistent thread and the sound of my music, but style wise,
I think every album's got a lot of different styles
on it. But you know, I've done stuff like Looking
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for That Girl and stuff like that. They're sort of
way left of center of what I usually do, just
to experiment a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
The appropriate way for me to ask that question would
have been chasing. But you're not opposed to trying something
similar to what you've heard and liked, even if it's
a bit different.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, I'm not opposed to that. I mean, you incorporating
into what I do, not I wouldn't call it copying.
Influenced by it, yeah, influenced by it exactly? What's that
old saying that something something borrows genius steals something like that.
I forget the exact phrase what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, I think it's for me once. Shame on you
for me never get fooled again.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Well back to your while your career has been going along,
I'm pretty good at fooling people.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Like yeah, me too, same good artists borrow great artist steel.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Yeah that's it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Another thing that you do. And I'm
just gonna glaze a little bit. Is you still singing
the same key? How? Like you said you're fifty eight?
Almost I was, They're going to go chase the round
number fifty. You sing really high.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I you know what it's It's odd because I think
people don't realize I sing as high as I do
because my voice is kind of thick. So when sometimes
an artists come out and sing a song with me,
like I like it, I love it, or something, I've
come on stage and they think, oh I know that song,
I'll go out and start singing it. Go whoa. This
is way higher than I realized it was.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Have you had to even consider any sort of key
change anyally?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Not yet. There's there's a few songs that are pushed
in the envelope right now.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
What's the hardest one to sing?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Oh gosh, well, standing room only that that single was
one that's tough to sings. There's some really high spots
in it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You have a record one to go, I have to
sing this the whole time, not because you don't love
the song, because it's you have to record it so high,
or you recorded in a way that it's going to
be difficult to perform every night.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
There's been a few of those, Yeah, a few of those,
and you find ways to adjust to it.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
That's why I don't record albums. I don't have to
sing them because I can't sing them.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Luckily, there's been a few songs that that that I've
really loved, that that I could probably only pull off
like once a month. That is so high, you know, do.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You because you can't do all your number ones because
you have forty six. I look, before you came in,
you have forty six number ones, almost one for every
state in the Union. Forty nine he has forty nine. Wow,
you have win.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
You won more then one more and I'll be I'll
have the states covered. Yeah, except Canada, which you know
that will be fifty one if it we have to
fit to a first state.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, that's a that's a big one though. Uh okay,
So we have a little we have some guests who
that Tim brought with him. And by the way, I'm
going to say this again, Tim, we have paper umbrellas
with Parker McCollum, which we played. And then secondly, the
three nights of the rodeo in Nashville are happening, and
Tim does May thirty first, and so Reeb is doing it,
Jelly Rolls doing it, you're doing I saw the three
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pictures on the yeah, on the and is this the
first time that it's been here? Don't I'm not familiar with.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
This is the very first time there's been a PRCA
rodeo in Nashville, full, full on rodeo.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And who's here with you?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Gosh, Patrick Humes, Tim O'Connell, Cole.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Gosh, I just saw a bunch of cowboy Yeah, and Ropes.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Wrote. We got a Cody Custer, who's a world champion
bull rider, a Hall of Famer retired now, but he's here.
Tim O'Connell's three time world champion bare back rider, Cole's
bare back rider working on a championship. We joke about
it all the time. That he's he's the one who
hadn't won a championship yet, but he's he's headed that direction.
Will they come in, they'll come in and then, and
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we also have Patrick Humes, who is our partner in
bringing this rodeo to town. He's the one that brought
the idea to us with my company down home, and
we co produced it together and bring it to town.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well, let's let's bring them in break cowboys.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
We'll come in with the real cowboys, the drugstore cowboys.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
All right. Tim McGraw's here, we'll bring in the other
Cowboys'll be back in a second.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
On the Bobby Bones Show now.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
And I would like to introduce you by name because
Tim McGraw's here, but he brought in a bunch of friends.
I've never felt less masking in my life. There have
been times I'm often less massive.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
With the sweater helps the car.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
In my peak undershirt.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's probably a part of it too, Uh, Pat, tell
me tell me about yourself. Who are you?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
I moved here like three and a half years ago
from Colorado. I grew up in Northern Nevada and rodeo family,
and I rodeoed in high school, and I tried to
get it and pro and was good enough. So I
decided to go into architecture and real estate development. And
we moved down here and there wasn't rodeo in Nashville,
so we decided.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
To fix it, brought one here. You and Tim partnered up. Yeah,
so how do you get Tim to be involved? How
does that conversation happen?
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You know?
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Honestly, it was when we were coming down here and
figuring out who we needed a partner with. He was
top of our list and we were just hoping and
praying that we could reach out get in contact with
him and he'd be interested in doing it, and luckily
he did.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
No brainer for me.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Also, Coal Cole Reiner. Yeah, Cole, you're number twenty in
the world right now. Bare back riding.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
That's embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, oh you mean it a bad way. You want
to be number one? That's a joke. I have a
lot of time so bareback, and that is so Monco
had horses and I would ride bareback because I did
not to put the saddle on. Yeah, that's but that's
just what you do. You just do it competitively and
like really good.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
So you're the bareback riding you're talking about was without
a saddle. We actually have what's called a rigging. It's
like a little bit so it started with a rope
because someone didn't have a saddle and they want to
ride a horse. But now it's turned into like a
hard piece of raw hide basically, and we stick our
hand in there and you can't really get it out.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Wait what Yeah, so you can't get it out? So
what if you fall?
Speaker 7 (16:13):
You're in trouble, you boy? Yeah, Tim and I are
in the same of it. So he's a world champion.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I see Tim O'Connor, world champion sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen.
So I'm assuming Tim that when you fall, you don't
fall much? Is that true?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Not often?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, we've seen it a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Mean, we've seen it a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
They drag you, they'll drag you if.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
You go like so, I'm left, I ride with my
left hand if you and we have these gloves that
are kind of bigger than the handle itself, and they
have wedges in them, and if I fall to the
right side, the wedge is tightened up and you have
to have the two guys that are designated in the
arena as pickup man. The guys that get us off
the horse safely, they have to then get ropes on
that horse and get them stopped because you have to
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get back over the horse and at.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
That point the horse.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, if you fallow, if you if you fall off
against your hand, Yeah, because what happens if these guys
can correct me if I'm wrong. I rode some high
school rodeo, which is like Little League Baseball compared to
these guys. But once you get your hand in the
rig and then you twist it around, it forms a
bubble that that sort of blocks keeps it from sliding out.
So if you release your hand you go this way,
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it'll slide out easier. But if you come over this
way and it's sort of locked in.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It, you know you don't want it to be locked in. Yeah,
it's literally where it came from. Because you're depending on
people to stop the horse.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
Then at that point, yeah, I mean the horse, because
at that point, like that horse is still doing its thing.
It doesn't just stop because you went off the runt.
So more more than likely you get stepped on, you
get kicked, you're getting drug by the animal as well,
and uh, there's been some pretty crazy x from you know,
guys just they get purely exhausted and then they're just
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underneath them.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And most of the time, most of time when that happens,
in that event, the horse kind of quits bucking and
he's scared and trying to get away from the guy.
So it doesn't help the horse is covering a lot
of ground.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
That's why I don't ride horses anymore.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
We feel less intelligent every time we tell someone about.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So Tim the first time you want a championship, where
did you win the championship? What did that feel like? Uh,
it's a it's a like twenty sixteen. Was there an event?
Is there like the super Bowl? Or is it like
an all season long point thing?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
So it was both.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
So I went into our World finals, which is in
Vegas at the NFR, as the world leader, and then
I never relinquished that lead.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That's all.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
I had no plan on doing it either. I'm talking
about it, you know, like I always say, like there's
a when they hand you a gold buckle, like when
you when you start rodeo as a little kid, when
you never say I want to make the NFR. You
never say really what you want to do, but you
say I want to be a world champion as a
little baby. When you when you realize that you want
to be a rodeo cowboys, I want to be a
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world champion. So imagine your entire life. There's a moment
that they hand you a gold buckle and you're a
world champion. It's a it's a flood of you don't
know if you want to jump up and down, you
don't know if you want to cry.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You feel a flood of emotions. I really can't explain.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
The only people that know it are the ones that
get handed this cold buckle, and you'll do anything to
get another one.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Do you have one on now?
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I do.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I don't want touch it. I'll be weird about Oh
that's is that real gold?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (19:19):
They oh yeah, Ah, he's taking it off of You
have to pay Texas on that.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
This is the twenty eighteen world champion bare back rider,
the Tim O'Connell. This is so legit. Do you worry
that if you leave your pants somewhere, someone's gonna steal it?
Like we jump on the creek and you leave your
bell this some one you ever jumped like, I'll be
watching out. That's that's really cool.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Those things are really one.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, Cody won, you got yours. Well, Cody's Hall of
Famer though, yeah, Cody's probably got so Cody, what you're
doing on the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Do you remember I went into I went into PRCA
Hall of Fame in twenty seventeen, which was a pretty
awesome deal because my dad got to be there and
he passed away the next year, so it was a
It's kind of one of those deals I think when
you when you start that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
That was more.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
That was the The world title was expected. Hall of
Fame wasn't really expected. It was kind of it caught
me off guard.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
How do they tell you?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
My friend Clint Corey was a world champion bareback rider
in the day, my era, and he was working with
the p r c A at the time, and when
they voted me in, he he made the phone call.
So it was I was driving home and it was
a really emotional thing.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And your dad got to see that.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
My dad was my dad was.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
There and uh, I wouldn't have I wouldn't have been
there without my dad, you know, being behind me. So
it was it was a great deal that he got
to come see passed the next year and a pretty
pretty cool deal.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That's awesome. And Cody was one of your heroes going
up right town.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yeah, I love Cody growing up Yeah, well growing up
with college, you know my college years. Yeah, I'm not
that much older than him.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
For Hey, Tim, let me ask you a question, Tim O'Connell,
h you have your shirt on with all your sponsors,
like I see Justin, I see tree Top Ranches. Whenever
a new sponsor comes on, do you get a whole
new shirt with all new patches or do you just
put a new patch on the shirt?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
That's a great question. It just depends on the lengths
of the deals, you know, Like.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Let's say I want to Let's say I wanted Bobby
Bones right on right on your blow your nipple on
your left side forever, well now for one year for
one year? Is that pretty expensively? Got one justin rules
that side. But like right under, let's say.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I want to pocket for pocket patch.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, I say I wanted Bobby Bones on there. Would
would you get a new shirt or would.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
You just I mean, it depends if you want, you know,
an exclusive deal or you want the whole shirt.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Then it's gonna get realized.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I don't want the whole shirt. I want to patch
you make it work.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, you guys are cut I mean we got
like here's the thing with our event, Like we wear
these braces, so a lot of times like we it
covers up, someone will cut us up, little little tear
and like they these horses, like they destroy your clothes.
So like I got about fifteen of these shirts all
look the same.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Are you guys always a little bit injured? Yeah, Like
it's like your professional athletes, Like so any of my
other friends of professional athletes to play in the NFL
or play major they're always a little bit hurt, even
when they're not because their bodies constantly being put through it.
Are you always a little bit hurt?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Yeah, because like our event, like they've broke it down.
It's like even on the very best days, on what
we call a really easy horse, it's the equivalent and
get into a small car wreck. That's what our bodies
go through. The g force that we go through is
like getting into a small car wreck. So like you're
always just a little bit banged up. But the cool
thing about what we do and what the human body
can do. Is like our bodies will adjust to getting
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in that violent wreck. Like they've done, they've done X
rays on us, Like our riding arm forearm bones have changed,
like they calacify up and like so our forearms on
our riding side are bigger than our other side.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And like it's weird, but our bodies will adjust to
the abuse.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
That very thing right there is why I chose bull riding.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Bare Back riding is way dangerous.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Now I talk about that for a second, So what
what what's the difference? I know that too.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's it's similar. It's it's pretty much similar. I just
it's very much like it's I mean, it's similar in
the in the danger area, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Just they're they're.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I mean, these guys take more abuse than than most
bull riders. And on their on their good day, you know,
on a on a good day.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Well you know, the bare back riders are back like
this and they're getting slapped in the back constantly. A
bull riders trying to be up with their chest out
the front.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Are they drawn for you? Like the bulls are where
you don't really know what, boy you're gonna get And
you hope you get a B or C.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Yeah, we basically we know most of the horses and
bulls going up and down like all year rodeoing. We
know all the good ones and all the bad ones,
and you'll pick to go get on the good ones
or the battle one. But I would say the biggest
difference in injury wise is the bareback riding is like
a constant reoccurring injury. And then these guys get like
these traumatic injuries, Like they'll be healthy for a month,
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six months, two years and then get a big injury
and we're just always beat up.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
The thing about the thing about anything in the rough stock,
you're gonna get hurt at some point, and so you
know physically physically, our bodies get used to the trauma
and and like they said, we just get used to.
We get used to, like forearms get bigger. And you
know I always had my left arm was always bigger
than my right arm because I rode to my left arm.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And so it's, uh.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You guess you just got to be prepared that there's
gonna be some injuries and have a plan set to come.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Back and the bone density increasing.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
This dude, Tim O'Connell had a bullfrog neck, like.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
If my neck was small, but like you get used
to this whiplash and like your body adjust Like I
think like all of us, we we do schools and
like teach the youth not when they want to start this,
and you know I always start our schools off with this.
There's there's two things I can guarantee you in rodeo.
If you're going to try anything in rough stock. There
is one hundred percent chance you are going to get
hurt doing this. There's a very small chance you're gonna
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die doing this. Every time you nod your head.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
And it was the first one. That's all I heard.
You don't hear the diet, I don't get there. I'm like,
I'm out. All I heard was the first one. I
didn't even need the second one.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I'm thinking like if I was y'all's mom or something like,
I would be a nervous wreck every time you went
out there, And I mean I would be like, yeah,
you're goeting to do what you love. But like every
time you it seems like every time you saddle up
or not saddle up, you get on like it's this
could be it Like every time I fly. I'm like,
this is gonna be a but like, this.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Is y'all's job. That's the reality of it, and it
can't be at the forefront of your mind. We all
know it. But you got, you know, competition wise.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You you know.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
For me, I had a routine that I got in
and there's some days.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You show up.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It's easy to get there because everything plays out. But
there's other days you got to find it, which there's
more of those days. You got to find what it
takes to do the job. And so I think, you know,
I think mental mental toughness is the guys that are
the mental, the mentally toughest are the ones that make it.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I'm only mentally tough. I'm not physically tough. So, yeah,
what state are all you guys from. I'm curious what
where'd you grow up? We'd say color Where you say,
I group Nepada?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Okay, you Iowa, Wyoming grew up in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I know I was in the Arkansas here, I guess
not just me. It's a lot of cowboys out Arkansas, Okay.
So I'm gonna say this. So the three Nights of
the Rodeo and this is the first and I only
PRC Proroteo held a bridge down arena. So Music City
Rodeo is the nighttime event, with the rodeo starting at
six thirty pm, followed by the concerts at nine pm.
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So come out. Are all you guys competing? Are you
guys competing? You too competing?
Speaker 7 (26:49):
I'm the only one.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
You're to me?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Belt buckle to me gold?
Speaker 8 (26:54):
I actually, uh, six weeks ago, I tore my right
side of my core off my pelvic floor.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Do you say that to the kids? Chance you're going
to tell your your core off your pelvic floor?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Like, well, I mean doing my job.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
I mean it just sounds I had just a weird
deal and the whole right side of my core detached.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You look great for it?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, you know, so are you having to see a
pelvit core specialist?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
That felt dirty? But it did feel a little over
the line, like what you call hr.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I just had to call on myself.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
That's why I'm ask you.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
I had to go to Philadelphia and they reattached me.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Oh my god, when.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Do you get When are you back?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
How?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
What's the rehab out? In the rehab?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Well?
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Six weeks out as of yesterday they said, uh, twelve
weeks and I'll be back on their own.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
He's going to get a phone call today and like
not very long about.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Yeah, like later on today, let the surgeon's gonna call
me and he's going to let me know what I'm
released to do at this point moving forward, So like
ramping up, I have about six weeks, but unfortunately that
two weeks and what you do, like for how violent
it is, like two weeks is a long time because
as soon as I go back, we're gonna we're gonna
tear stuff apart again. And the first one back is
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gonna tear all that healed stuff apart, and it's gonna
get back and and your body has to. You know,
there's no shape like rodeo shape. You can be in
the best gym shape, best athletic form, but there's nothing
that can get you in shape for the violence that
you go through on the back of an animal.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Can you like the bulls? I'm gonna give you an example.
I'm thinking about it. My brother in law is a
colleative softball coach, and so now they have machines that
can mimic the pictures that are going against throw the
same the exact same balls at the same rate, same spins,
and so the batters can get used to it, and
so they can go up and they can hit against
basically and it's not AI but a technologically advanced computer
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version of that picture. Can you do that in any
way with the whore? Have they created something like that?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I mean yes and no. We have. We have two
main sources for practice.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
We have what we call the spur board, which is
basically a plywood set up that we put some mats
on and we you angle it down so you're sitting
down and you're you're having to push your hips up
and it's stationary and it mimics the big side of
it with the padding on it mimics the horse's neck.
So to make it in a perfect form, you would
spur it and the front of it's going to lift
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off from all the power that you generate through this
through this board, and then you'll snap your feet down
and it makes your body practice perfect form and that
kind of tells you. And then there's a there is
a bucket machine that really mimics bare back riding and
the way a horse bucks. But uh, you don't want
to get on that too much either because it's like
you know the ones you see at you know the
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bars or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, it's it's the same jump.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
A sense of what's really going on because there one
footle hit first. Sometimes in the shoulders move, so it
there's nothing been created that really mimics the horse's movement
because it's not a consistent movement. It's not the machine
is a consistent movement, so it doesn't mimic what's actually happening.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yes, Or a slip like if a horse slips in
the back end with a foot slips or or he
stumbles a little bit, it doesn't nothing could be mimicked.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
So really, in.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Reality, the spur board, it's a stationary causes you to
do the things in perfection in a controlled atmosphere, so
that when you know, there's no perfection in the arena,
but you can practice perfection on a spur board, and
then it relates over to the real thing.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
All six PRC events plus the wpr A women's barrel
racing all happening. There's bare back riding, steer wrestling, mutton busting,
all you want to hear, a funny mounta bussy story.
So I grew up in Arkansas. I went to a
lot of rodeo slash crash up derbies, right, that's all.
Usually it was the same, right you go. And once
I was too old and I went muttain busting. I
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didn't know there was you should be little and I
was a little older than I should have been, and
I was by like seven years. I was the oldest
buttton bust out there.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
And so.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, I was like seven, I was like thirteen. So anyway,
that's my button. That's why I don't do what you do.
I tore my pelvic floor, so I stopped after one thing.
Team roping, saddle bronck riding, tie down roping, barrel racing,
and bull riding roughstock events. We'll put the details to
up on our page. Tim McGraw, thank you for coming
by and bringing all your friends. Pat congratulations. This event's
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gonna be awesome. You picked some great performers, I mean, Reba,
Tim Jelly Roll and you know people should come for
the rodeo as well. Tim O'Connell bell buckle. That's cool,
man like that, that's very cool. Cole Ryner number twenty
in the world. Hey, if he's out though, do you
move up a spot. He's out for weeks.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Well yeah, he's the way behind me already.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah yeah, okay, good enough.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
See he keeps saying he is the one without it.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
I said, you know, his best shot to win the
world title is when I'm not in there.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Do you got no competition?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Let's just fight it out right now, Let's just have
it right and Cody Custer, hey, honor to spend some time.
Thank you very much for being here. I really hate
Today's the day I wore a pink shirt and this sweater.
I'll be honest with you, have all the days. This
was the worst day to do it. Thank you guys
so much. And hope everybody goes and checks it out.
Tim thanks for coming by, and everybody clip Pants part
new friends.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Good y'all.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Mister Bobby Bones,