May 8, 2025 • 40 mins
Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel dissect the relationship between Bill Belichick and his girlfriend. Matt gives his thoughts of on Jordon Hudson's effect on Bill's work with the media and the UNC program. Bobby has a Top 5 things that this couple has in common.
Bobby wonders how NFL players feel about kickers. The Ravens release Justin Tucker and Matt wonders how the teams move forward through issues like this. Could mental roadblocks have played a part in Tucker's performance last season? Julian Edelman is going into the Patriots Hall of Fame. Matt recalls his friendship with Edelman and how he just spent Kentucky Derby weekend with the WR and Rob Gronkowski.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
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Speaker 5 (00:34):
He has former Pro Bowl quarterback Matt freaking Castle. You're
like Seth freakin Rawlins. You demand respect and thank you
guys for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
This is two episodes in a week.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
We're feeling it so much that we decided to do
two episodes this week of Lots to say. I do
have my list, which I do every week, and it's
I have the top five things that Bill Belichick and
his girlfriend have in common.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Oh god, this podcast is fire. Let's light Castle up.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Let's go after Katy Perry.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
But now we're getting into Belichick and his girlfriend.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Gotta print that.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oh oh yeah, can you punt that for me?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
So the Bill Belichick story is interesting to me because
we met her.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yes at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, kinda it look weird.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
And listen, I'm eleven, almost twelve years older than my
wife I'm not gonna hate on it even twenty And
who cares even if it looks what?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Who cares?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Nobody's doing anything wrong? Right, like it doesn't matter, and
who who cares? What I think? Because I actually think, Man,
if they love each other, let it rip. I have
no problem with that. But it did look a little weird.
I would thought I would have thought that was a
grandpa and granddaughter.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
There's no doubt because that's kind of sh I mean,
that is the age difference.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It is.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It's definitely a significant age difference.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I'm sure you saw the CBS Morning News clip. I
sure they jumped in. That was pretty wild. And people
think that maybe people that don't know think that maybe
he could be losing it.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't feel like he's losing it.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Do you. I don't think that he's losing at all.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
I also feel like she's in probably some type of
PR role at least to be in that meeting, unless.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well, she's running everything now she is.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
But there's got to be something where she is in
a certain role in which she can feel that she
can do that consistently.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right, I'm going to tell you that I have PR people.
They would never do it like that.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
No, probably not.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That is a green, green, green PR person.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
But it was personal too for her because it's talking
directly about her, and if she is in that PR role,
then maybe that's why she felt like she needs to
step in and say.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
This wasn't part of the interview. You guys never sent
this over.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I think that's just the only one they showed though,
because at one point they said that she walked out.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
She yelled in a couple other times for a couple
other questions.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, but that's confidence too.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
I respect that because it's a lot of confidence coming
from I mean, she's young, right.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Twenty four.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I mean that's a lot of confidence to be in
that meeting with CBS. I'm a sit down interview and
say hey, we're not doing this.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, I hear you look at it like that. I
hear you.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
And the thing is, I think Bill Belichick knows exactly
what he wants.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I think it's mentally great. It's just weird.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
It's just weird. But weird doesn't always mean wrong. True,
because I think I'm weird, but that doesn't mean wrong.
I mean I'm wrong about a lot of things, but
like I'm not the whole situation is bizarre because North
North Carolina now wants them to hire pr because it's
starting to tarnish the North Carolina reputation.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Well, that's what everybody's talking about, and that's the issue
that people are having probably with the university and the
ad and everybody else involved. Is none of it is
about UNC and this legendary coach coming to coach at
their university and bringing that type of light to the
team and the players. It's all about this drama that's unfolding,
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that's in tabloid news. And it's the wrong type of
PR that you want for the program, especially when you
make that type of significant higher and yees pay somebody
that much money to come in and change the outlook
of your program. That I can understand why they might
be a little bit upset.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, because you just spent a bunch of money and
they had a bunch of an eye own money, right
And it's about the program. But you know what, it's
not about the program at all right now. No, it's
not like nobody's talking about what North Carolina football is
going to do. And if they do talk about North
Carolina football, it's that she's on the field.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Have you seen the clips of her on the field.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Everything revolves around their relationship.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
It's like a soap opera and it's like, uh, I
don't even know what to tell you.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Well, you think Kevin is a fan, A massive Belichick
Patriots fan, because my non Belichick fan, non Patriots fan,
definitely not a hater though, rooted for the Patriots because
I love to see dynasties and consistent success because consistency
in anything is almost impossible. So definitely not a hater.
But to me, nothing wrong with what's going on. It
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is weird, and I do feel bad for the peace
people that made the decision of North Carolina to right
now to bring him in because they're not talking about
the mac brown less because.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
He actually took that to the next level.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
North Carolina football team with the greatest football coach of
all time now coaching thoughts, I.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Never thought we would get here with Bill Belichick, for sure.
I mean him and the Patriots and him in North
Carolina are like two completely different people. Obviously, the relationship
he has with a much younger woman is his own prerogative.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
He can do what he wants.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Also, let's go yeah, I mean, yeah, if that's it yet.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Who knows to him?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And I just think he's at the moment now where
maybe he's like, even the whole pr stuff, he's like, man,
I don't care. He's always kind of been that mentality.
Castle could probably attest to this where he's like, I
don't care what anybody has to say. But now it's
getting to the point where he's like, oh, maybe I
should start to care.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Does a distraction make him care?
Speaker 7 (05:56):
I mean, if you watch the clips from that interview,
that was the most frazzled I've ever seen him in
an interview where he just he always exudes the look
if I don't want to answer it, I'm not going
to answer it, just straight up, and it kind of
was like a deer in headlights at times, where you're
sitting there going wait, is that Coach Belichick like it
just the whole situation was awkward, and it just continues
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to get a little bit more awkward every little thing
that comes out about the program, the relationship, whatever's going
on there, because everybody's obsessed with it, and it's the
day and age that we're in that they see something
that's unorthodox, that is not common for whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Reason, no reason, No, I know it's not common.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, I mean it's a gap.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I think the distraction part, though, will start to make
him care, because you're right, I don't think he cares.
I think he's got blinders on. He has a goal
he wants to hit it achieve. But I think because
it's going to be such a distraction now, he'll probably
start to care more.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Yeah, and it almost seems like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I don't know that for sure obviously, but dating this
girl and having this image is something that like he
wants the public to see. Like I don't know what
that image is necessarily, but dating this young, good looking
woman where he's like, see, guys, I still got it.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (07:09):
I don't know is his ego or what still got it?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
All right?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I just would have had my again, as somebody who
has had to answer a lot of questions about a
lot of things, even sometimes uncomfortable things, I would have
just had that story prepared, because you know, somebody's gonna
ask it at some point. It just it's not if
it's when and they're gonna go, hey, how'd you guys meet?
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And just how you just say it. We've been on airplane.
You guys may have seen this. I signed a yearbook.
It's over I signed.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I guess it was our college textbuck, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah? Yeah, you just have that prepared. That's all.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
That's A good PR person would have been like, Hey,
they may ask you this, just say this and they
won't even follow up, probably because you're gonna give them
everything they could possibly ask for.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, and for twenty years they had the best PR
in New England where it's like nothing got leaked out
and he made sure and if they did, then guys
like Welker when he talked about Rex Ryan's feet who
get suspended or whatever it was. And then now to
see Belichick doing this, you're like, what the heck happened?
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Even after tough losses, how did he always respond they
wanted to continue to go back on a Tuesday and
ask him about you know what took place and we're
moving on, we're moving on.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Just shuts it down.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
If he just did that, that would be more par
for the course than what we saw in that interview.
And that's where you see this fundamental change of like, wait,
who is this guy standing in front of the camera,
because if he truly didn't care, he would just sit
there and say, I'm not talking about that, and they
would shut it down because they know that's the type
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interview he's going to be.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's a great point because he easily could have done
the Belichick and he didn't even do that.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And he wouldn't have to explain himself at all.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Anyway, I'm the top five things the Bill Belichick and
his twenty four year old girlfriend have in common. Number five.
They both understand power dynamics. He ran an NFL franchise,
she runs him.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Oh gosh, you have been writing jokes this season.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Yeah, I kind of went back in it. You're into it, Yeah,
I'm back in it. Number four. They both do skincare.
She has a twelve step Korean routine. He washes his
face with the same soap he uses on his truck.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Number three.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
They both enjoy watching film, her euphoria him third down
blitz packages. See that was all nice.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Nice? Yeah nice.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
This is not a rose. It's what they have in common.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, have in common.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
They both say they're low maintenance. She means only five
hundred dollars for a facial, He means a hoodie he's
owned since the Bush administration. See and number one the
number one thing Bill Belichick and his twenty four year
old girlfriend have in common. They both have trust issues.
He won't trust a rookie corner in the fourth quarter.
She won't let him follow anyone named Megan on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
There you go, thank you that Wow, that was very good,
thank you, very insightful. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
It won't be nearestunny next week Because'm about to do all
my jokes, about to shoot my load with the Brooks
and done things.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Then I'll be done for a while.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Wait to see I mean this.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Hopefully we'll get to see that that part of the roast.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Do they know that you're rustling in?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
They don't. And if you do see it, that means
they went really wrong.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
No, that means you cross the line.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yes, really wrong.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
How do players feel about kickers in the locker room?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Not in the locker room, but like in the locker room.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
What's the feeling about kickers as they are a part
of the team.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
You know what, kickers are kind of their own entity
because they operate outside the realm of what our schedule
is and our normal agenda is.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
So like when we're out.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
When we're in meetings, they're doing their own things because
they don't have meetings like pat field goal. They're not
studying blocking assignments or anything. They're literally saying this, when
I flashed my hand, snap it to put it down,
we're going to kick. So they just they have a
completely different schedule, so you don't see him a ton
during the day. They're in special teams meetings in the morning,
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maybe after practice, and then the days that they kick,
they come on the field usually when we do a
field goal period once once a week during practice, and
then it's before practice after practice, so you don't spend
a ton of time with them. But every kicker I've
been around, they're usually cool dudes. They're good at everything,
They're very skilled at what they do, and at the
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end of the day, I've never had a problem with them.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And I know that.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
There's certain guys, probably more on the defensive side than
the offensive side, that get a little bit more heated
when it doesn't go the way that the kicker wanted
to go, but that's part of that position as well.
If you do your job the right way, nobody will
ever talk about you or you hit the game winner.
Somebody will talk about you, but they only remember, oh, well,
he missed that kick and that cost us three points,
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or this that or the other.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It's a tough position.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
To be in.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Are they considered peers?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (12:06):
I mean Ryan suck Up, who he lives here in Nashville,
played with me for six out of my fourteen years
in the NFL, is one of my dear friends. Great guy,
great human, and so Steven Goskowski also another guy that
played with in New England, a great kicker for New
England for a number of years. He might he's up
there in terms of total points and everything else. Another
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really good friend of mine. So these guys are great,
great individuals. I think sometimes the the misconception is that,
you know, nobody likes kickers and they do their own thing,
and they're kind of an outcast in the locker room.
If you're a normal dude and your teammate your a teammate,
is that the Is that a good way to put it?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
But I think what and again, never been in the
locker room? Are kickers normal dudes for the most.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Part, For the most part, for the most part, you know,
they have their quirkiness. Again, I think it goes along
with a position too, because it's such a mental game
for them. You're either kicking. It's like a golfing you see.
Those guys sometimes get the yips and they're not hitting
it well, and it's this whole mental anguish that they
go through and they're battling themselves to get back on
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track to where they need to be.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Speaking of kickers, we can jump into this for a second.
Justin Tucker was let go. The Ravens release Justin Tucker,
the team announced on Monday. The Ravens made the decision
amid allegations from sixteen women that Tucker engaged in sexual
misconduct during massage therapy sessions. The behavior took place between
twenty twelve and sixteen and eight different spas.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
He struggled last year.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
He is getting older, but probably if your mind ain't right,
you're probably struggling because you right.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Let's be honest, the stress of those type of allegations
coming out, probably behind the scenes, knowing that that's eventually
going to come out, You've got a family, everything else
that goes on that has to play a role in
how you perform because there that's a whole different level
of stress and a reputation that is now tarnished until
seeing otherwise because of course, in this society, you're guilty
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before being proven innocent, versus innocent before being proven guilty.
And I don't know what's going to come out, and
I'm not going to pass judgment because I don't know
all that stuff. But that for sixteen women and the
allegations and all that, it's really difficult from an organization
to move forward with that type of weight and decision
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needing to be made.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
If we were two or three, I really would be like,
let's let's investigate this. We don't want to jump, we
don't want to make any decision. It's sixteen.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
I say this all the time, and any time a
situation like this comes out, played in the league for
fourteen years. Normally, when you go to any particular city,
you find one person that you trust, you're comfortable with,
and you trust that person because they work on your body,
they know your ailments and whatever, and that's what.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You go back to.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
You rarely have more than two three if there's a
special list that you're working with. But to have sixteen
people or whatever, I'm not again, I'm not saying passing
blame or guilt or anything like that. I'm just saying,
in my experience, that's normally what you have.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You got your one, two, potentially three.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
That's a specialist, trusted people that work with you to
get you to your optimal level to go perform.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And again, we don't know what happened. We can't say
what happened.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
There are many cases of people that have been accused
of something and it not being exactly as but that
number sixteen feels different than a much much lesser number.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That is a lot of that's a lot of collusion.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
If so, it's a lot of people that would need
to work together to go we're all going to do
this sixteen. So I understand why the Ravens had to
do this. I mean, he's he's the best kicker of
all time, right, I mean, I guess you could argue
there's a page or two up there, but yeah, but
he's the best kicker of all time.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
But when I think about last year, because he was
kind of sucking at times. But you're, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
They lost multiple they lost multiple games in the beginning
of the year because of miss field goals. And that's
why when you sat there and watched last season. Everybody's
asking that, and even myself, I'm sitting there going this
guy's been the most one of the most consistent kickers
of all time, probably will go down as one of
the top one or two kickers place kickers of all time,
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and it was so uncharacteristic for him to have that
type of dramatic slide that he had. Now, sometimes you say, well,
is it injury related? Because all these guys, you know,
they get hip or knee or something like that, that
there's some displacement and that results in some bad days
of kicking, but not throughout.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
The course of the season.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I was on your Instagram and you reposted a picture
of Edelman, Who's going into the Hall of Fame, right,
and I'll write, I'll say what you wrote, the perfect
embodiment of the Patriots way.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Congrats Edelman eleven.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Now, I know you guys didn't play together specifically, but
I'm assuming you guys were at least around each other
or you heard stories. Can you give me three good
Edelman stories?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Well, you know, Edelman and I got to know each
other really well because he would spend his off seasons
in Manhattan Beach, South Bay Area where I was every
off season, and so because of my relationship, a close
relationship with Brady, we'd work out and throw in the
off season. And you have to understand a lot of
times it was geography wise. If you're in a specific
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city or area, you'd get guys from all over to
come out if they're in that area, to come throw
because they want to get their work in.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
So I started to throw with.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Edelman and Ambadola, Danny Amadola and those guys with Brady
throughout the off seasons, and if Brady can show up,
I was there.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
So we started to get to know each other.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
And this was before he became even Edelman, and so
we started to throw and I was like, this kid's
really good. And I remember having a conversation with Wes Walker.
I said, did you guys draft a quarterback? He's like,
he's actually playing wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And I'll tell you what, he's pretty good because he
was a Ken State quarterback.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Ken State quarterback, So I thought they drafted a quarterback
to come in and I was like, what's what's it?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Because this is the year I left. He came in.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
So then I fast forward to twenty twelve, and at
this point he hadn't arrived right. He had minimal work
at wide receiver. He was more of a punt returner,
but also had a lot of value because he played
on the defensive side the ball when there's some injuries,
great special teamers, and then had a minor role on
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offense because Wes Welker was still there. Then Wes went
to Denver in twenty thirteen, and I remember between that year,
Edelman had a decision to make.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
He's getting offered a.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Little bit more money to go to the New York
Giants or stay take a little bit less money with
the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
And he called me.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Just to get my thoughts on it, and I said, honestly, dude,
Welker's not going to be there. You know, this is
an offense that operates in a certain way. They're going
to put you in a great position. They know your
skill set, and you're going to step into that role
and you're going to crush. I would bet on yourself
and take a little bit less money, even though you
feel a little bit slighted at this point. And see
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now I guarantee that my advice wasn't the only opinion
he was talking to right. I'm not trying to take
any credit whatsoever. But that next year, in twenty thirteen,
he goes off right over one hundred catches, over a
thousand yards and he arrived and I knew that he
always had that potential just throwing with him because his
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mannerisms and how he had the same type of body
control that Welker did. He learned and was a great understudy,
and he was now a younger version and he was
ready to step in. He knew the offense and when
he exploded on the scene, I was like that, I
knew this was coming. It was just about seizing that
opportunity and getting that opportunity, and that's when Edelman took off.
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So that was really cool for me to sit. I
wasn't a teammate of his, but I knew that he
was a grinder and what he had to go through
in the adversity of sitting behind somebody like Welker and
not knowing what your future had in store for you
and the uncertainty of it all, and then to go
out and get that opportunity and take advantage of it
when he did was was awesome.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
He also played multiple positions as in wherever where turning.
If he was playing defense, you know, playing in the
defensive backfield for some series. Like he did whatever it
took to be on the team, which you know, I
think is a guy like me who feels like I've
just had to grind through and.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Figure it out. Like I look at that and go,
that's the kind of guy I want on the team.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Oh. He and he's like a football player.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
He loves it and everything he did it was one
hundred miles an hour, Like there wasn't anything where he
was just like I'm going to walk through this. At
least when we would work out, it was like, dude,
we're going out to work. Then he'd go and he'd
want to run sprints. After he was dedicated to it.
He wanted to be really good. And when he got
that opportunity, he not only became good, he became great.
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And he showed up in the biggest moments. I mean
some of the some of those Super Bowl runs obviously
super Bowl MVP, but the catch against Atlanta that's going
to go down as one of the greatest catches super
Bowl history. But leading up to the first Super Bowl
that he won, it was the throw against Baltimore. Remember
the double pass where he rips it down the field.
So he was just all around great competitor. He was tough,
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but he was also he worked at his craft time
and time again. So it was awesome to see him
get recognized because he's also one of those guys off
the field. He also goes one hundred miles an hour
and he's such a great personality. But he's authentic and
you've seen him on the podcast and all that. He
holds no punches, but he is somebody that gets along
with everybody and you know where you stand with him,
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and so he's a fun dude.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I remember going to the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
And this is his first my first time with him
at the Kentucky Derby, but Amadola was there, Gronk was there.
I was like, I wonder what the scene because you
hear all the rumors, but I hadn't been out to
party with him yet.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
So we go I think it was the Maxim.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Party, and we go out and everything was kind of
subdued up to that point. We went to the Barnstable
Brown Party maybe one before that, and then we get
to the Maxim Party and next thing, you know, now
you start to see Gronk come out and there's bottles
to the table, people are all surrounded. I was like, dude,
I need to throw my ninja smoke and get out
of here. Like it was wild on tables, dancing crazy like,
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and so it was just like, yes, spring the energy,
bring Edelman around, He'll bring it.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Hey, Kevin, you're a massive Patriots fan. What's your favorite
Edelman story that you as a fan? What do you
remember about him that you when I say Edelman's awesome,
but what comes up?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The dude just took hit after hit after hit. I
mean the Super Bowl against the Seahawks against Cam Chanceller
right the middle, nailed him, got up and then still
got fifteen yards. He was down anyways, but still got
another fifteen yards and I think he got a little
concussion off of that one. So my most memorable thing
for him is just taking a beating year in and
year out, getting up and Brady's still just like trusting
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them every game.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Well, that's the thing about those guys, particularly in the slot,
that you have so much respect for guys like Edelman,
Guys like Welker we talked to last week, was they
subject their body to so much pain because you're constantly
running routes over the middle in traffic, linebackers, safeties that
are bearing down on you, and can you make that
catch in the pivotal moment to move the chains, to
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to do what he did in Atlanta where their safety
is converging. You know, all those things in cam Chancellor
where you just have to have such a dynamic mindset
to be able to sit there and know that you're
gonna get hit and then still make the play.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I think there's a bit of a misconception now too,
that because they can't rip your head off, that it
does still hurt. Meaning if this were nineteen eighty eight
and you're going across the middle, you might die.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Seriously, you might die. How about the clubbings that used
to take place, like.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
They literally would target that area, Yeah, to knock somebody out,
to absolutely assassinate somebody, anybody that comes across. Ronnie and
Lot made a living in that area of the field
because you know that that guy is going to go
up for that ball and guess what, I'm not even
going to look for the ball.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I'm just gonna take his head off.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
And I think because they're going, well, we can't really
hit him across the middle.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
That's really not the case that all two things have changed. One.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
The players now even though they can't we'll just say target.
Even though they can't target and destroy, there's so much
more athletic and you're just in the middle of all
those bodies. So even though you're not getting your head
popped off, you've got guys that are bigger, fascire, stronger
than they were twenty years ago, and you're near them
all the time. So you're going to get hit more
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because you're just playing in the middle of the field.
So you may not not have the death shot one
or two a game, but you get hit twenty times
by guys that are bigger, fashion stronger than what existed
twenty five thirty years ago.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Right.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
And also those guys, especially in you guys's offense or
the Patriots, like the Welkers, the Amadolas, those are not
small in comparison to me and Kevin, but like smaller
stature guys.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
They're two ten, two fifteen.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But they're not They're not six to two.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
No, you know, they're guys that when they're up against
a two forty five linebacker, they can run a four
to six like that crap.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Hurts, oh yeah, or a two twenty five safety that
can run like a deer and come.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's coming right at you as you're going across.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
It's different when gronks to seventy or two sixty five
running across and when you hit him, you're ricocheting off
of him. But when you're two ten, two fifteen and
somebody's coming downhill and hit you with force, that's a
different animal altogether. So you like that guy, loved him, man,
I mean we.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Still talk occasionally.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
He's just he's a great dude and somebody that I've
got the utmost respect for.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But he's also a friend of mine.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
He's an awesome guy.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Before we go, Kevin's got a game for us here.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I love games, and I think we're like one on one.
I don't think I won the last one. I think
I started strong enough.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I won the last one. You definitely won the first one.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Yeah, you guys are one on one.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
It was quotes. The first time you crushed on that,
I was in a whole other world.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
And then where they play college ball? Five draft?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
All right, So the game today is.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
This one is more of a team game.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
We played together.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, you play together hand, Yeah, you sit on each
other's lap for this one. So you gotta guess. First
of all, I'm gonna ask a couple of questions, and
the first question is going to be how many teams
do you think have never won a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I'll tell you, guys, talk that one out.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
How many teams? So the Lions have never won, the
Browns have never won.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
But the next question is going to be which teams?
So don't, oh, just off the head, off top of
your head, how many teams?
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I mean at least two? Okay, Benniso's never one, jack,
but it's hard for us not to say them.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Let's go straight to it.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
The Panthers haven't ever won one, have they? No?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Cleveland home Okay, So that's we're at five right.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Now, So let's go straight to it.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Okay, so hold on, let's see. We're gonna go the Lions.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Okay, we're gonna go Cleveland Jaguars because Brunell never won
a Super Bowl? Right, No, okay, because they got close,
but they didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Blake Bortles even won a game.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
So you got the Lions, the Browns, the Jags, the Jags.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Oh, the Texans. Haven't we have forgot the Texans because they're.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
New Texans, haven't Texas?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I would have forgot the Texans. I forgot to go
new teams.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
There's four.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I thought we were at.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Five, Browns, Lions, Texans, Jags, Minnesota Vikings five.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Even like you sure about that?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I don't know that You're not right. But even like the.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Tarkentin day, they never won won quite certain, Okay, I'm
with you on it.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
The Panthers did Cam.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
No Panthers never won a Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It made it? Did Jake Delone?
Speaker 7 (28:16):
No, Jake to alone lost to the Patriots. Cam lost
to Denver Peyton his last year.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
That's seven, No, that's six six. So NFC North Bears, Packers.
We called the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Yep, we already said the Lions. So we're good there.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Okay, here's one. They've been to a bunch at the Bengals.
I remember Boomer never won one because I lost.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I cried like a freaking baby.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah. I was definitely with you.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
And they lost even earlier than that too. I don't
know that.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Okay, go with the Bengals for sure. Bengals Bengals. How
many are you gonna tell how many teams?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Or we're just still gonna that's seven?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's seven, twelve? What is five more?
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah, that's why I wanted to know when number.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Okay, let's say more than you say? So far?
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Chargers?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Are we on? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:09):
You're on? You got seven of the twelve.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
San Diego Chargers.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Don't tell us yes or no. Let's see if we
can get them all and then we'll do like prices.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Right, how many do we have?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Right? Okay, San Diego Chargers. Oh, Arizona, but hold on
the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I know we're in.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
They they got blown out by the forty nine ers.
Steve Young, we're fifty five to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I remember my buddy's had a starter jacket, chargers jacket
that I wore.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
I don't think the San Diego Chargers. Oh wait, but nothing,
you go ahead, No, you're right. I was just saying,
my buddy had a San Diego Chargers pull up starter
pull over and I borrowed to wear the night of
the Super Bowl side note and they lost.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, couldn't afford long point.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Okay, so you guys going with the Chargers or no?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yes, I think we're going with the Chargers, Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Correct, they played the steel they lost to the Steelers
and the one that I can remember. So we're gonna
go Cardinals. Don't tell us if we're wrong, though, yeah, Kevin, Okay,
we're trying to get where are we are?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Nine?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
What?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (30:03):
So you've guessed ten?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
So we know we know the Buccaneers have said guests,
we know the Buccaneers have I'm going to Florida. Now
the Buccaneers have, the Dolphins have.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Tampa Bay has already sid Jaguars bags have.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
We already said.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Jacks though, yeah, Jags haven't. Let's go up the East
Coast Panthers already said them. The Giants have, the Jets have.
Let's go Texas.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
What about the Saints Titans?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
The Titans haven't.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Titans have not.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
They lost to the Rams and then.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yes, they were an expansion team lost to the Rams.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
So the Oilers don't count. But even then, but we're
going Titans Titans.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Did that put us at eleven?
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Sorry, that's ten?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That's ten? Should we go di vision by division?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Like let's say a f C West Chiefs Chiefs Chargers
have Raiders know the Chargers have not.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I mean we Chargers we put on the list.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Our Raiders have m HM and Denver has.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Okay, a f C East, so we'll go n f
C West. Oh you want conferences on me day?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Arizona hasn't Seattle, has hasn't Seattle?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Great question, because yes they did? With yes he does,
I think we all go back to Marshawn Lynch. You go,
did they ever deserve to win one? If they didn't,
didn't give the ball to.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Marshall, definitely lost.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Well, yeah, yeah, you're right, because because he doesn't have
a change forty nine ers they have.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
And then we have who's the final team in the
a f C West.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
You said n f n f C wes Sorry Cardinals,
Cardinalshawks forty And.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Why am I blanking on this? I should know this.
I do know this. Rams?
Speaker 5 (31:59):
No, Yeah, Rams, Rams have won. I know if they have, really,
I just think they've been round forever.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I'll go with the Rams for sure. I don't remember
them winning.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I just think that Eric.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Dickerson, I don't think that they won back then San Diego.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
And let's move on. Okay, Let's see if there'snybody else
that comes through though. Uh get you picked that because
I tried to go to stay in the AFC and
you bolded me.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
So sorry, Let's go South.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Okay, Okay, we already have the Titans.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
A f C South.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Colts have one one with Peyton Manning right multiple Houston
we said.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
No on them, so we have we do have them. Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Jacksonville hasn't. Okay, you want to go a f C North,
I'm following you. Okay, We've got Pittsburgh have no, but
we put them Bengals that are on there. Baltimore, Baltimore
has okay.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Okay, and then we've got the a f C East,
which is the Giants. No NFC.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Oh shoot, AFC East. Sorry, I should know this.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Patriots, Dolphins, Patriots, Bill Bills haven't won one. Oh, Kelly,
I think you got its four in a row.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I think you hit it. Yeah, we're in for our
twelve okay is that twelve?
Speaker 6 (33:16):
That's twelve?
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Yeah, Bills?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
How many do we have? Do we have any wrong?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
No, I would.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Say if we were going to take one off, are
we sure the Rams didn't win one or did win
one or didn't win one?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
I think they did, and you made me feel like
a real Oh yeah they did with golf.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, all right, we take that one off.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
No, with Stafford. Stafford, Yeah, they traded golf for Stafford.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Golf got lost to the Patriots. Golf got there, but
Stafford one.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
We're taking the rams off.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
We're taking the rams off. Do we have more than one? Wrong?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Okay, we have one? Okay, okay. So now we're in
the NFC. Bro, I'm just following you all. We're Carmen
san diegoing right now with you.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
NFC East, we got Dallas, we got the Eagles, we
got the Giants, and we have Washington, Washington.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
But the Redskins one would like rip. And they went
three times, yeah, three different quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Yeah for sure. When he got hurt, and remember that
was Doug Gabriel went in Williams. Williams. Sorry, yes, fantastic. Okay,
So they're they're out. So we're in the NFC. Where
are we at? NFC South?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Your organizations really screwed me up here. I have Saints, okay,
NFC South Saints.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Ye, they have Drew Brees. I was there that so
we already said the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Yep, and we already said the who else is in
this South?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
We already said the Bucks.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
Yeah, Panthers, New Orleans Bucks and.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
M Falcons.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Falcons have the Falcons? Falcons?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Falcons?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Are it? Say? So? Did Matt?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
I never won a Super Bowl? They lost, that's a
big one.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
They can't.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
It's the Falcons. Okay, we're gonna go. Falcons, final guests,
the Falcons, final guests, final guests.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
That is correct.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yes, we are pretty good there.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Wow, I'll take us a minute there, but we got there.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Whenever you tour, and I've toured for a bunch of years,
both doing comedy music and doing stand up, they route
you in ways where you go to cities based on
its nearest another city, and therefore you're not really wasting
a lot of money. So if you're gonna go and
you're gonna do Albuquerque, New Mexico, you may go Phoenix,
you may go San Diego.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
You go. That's the tour.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
If Castle routing a tour, we'd start in Boston, our
second show would be in Seattle, maybe back down in Florida.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
The premise of my idea was to go a f
C NFC West, then go a f C, NFC South
or East, whatever you wanted to go. But you're like,
I don't know where you're going. At the same time,
I didn't know where I was going either.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, next question, all right, the last question here, which
teams have never played in a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
There are four of them.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Brown's Lions. Yep, those are the two I know for sure,
Browns Lions. Now, the Jaguars did play in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yes, they did.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
So we're going with these twelve and we're eliminating the
ones that played and lost. So we know the Jags
and we know the Panthers both played in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yes, if you want me to read the twelve again,
go ahead. Okay, you got the Cardinals.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
One at a time. Cardinals, they lost to the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
They did okay, Falcons.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Falcons lost to the Patriots, Bills every game they lost them,
a lot of them. Isn't it crazy to think back
they lost four in a row, Like we were so
we were so young, But if we if we were adults,
that were happening, we would go like, what's happened?
Speaker 3 (37:03):
This is a crazy thing I've ever seen, Like to
go back year and in years just to get there four
years was amazing, What an amazing accomplishment, and then just
not have just one play, go your way, brutal czy.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Alright, go ahead, Panthers.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Uh they're still in.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, they played came in.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Bengals Yep, yep, at least twice. So the Browns already
guessed yep. Lions, yep, we guess them too. Okay, you
have the Browns and lines of your guests so far.
And then we got Texans.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Then they're playing the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Jaguars they did.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I'm pretty sure Brunow playing in.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
The Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Okay, Chargers, Oh.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You made you convinced me?
Speaker 7 (37:41):
Wait wait wait wait, we know the Chargers give us
some wrestler less Jacksonville might be it.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Jackson We already said Bruno would played one.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
I think he did.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
I'm you convinced me that I was right? Oh my god, Okay,
go ahead, Vikings. I don't remember the Vikings playing in
the Super Bowl, but I.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Know agree and all those guys they made it, maybe
made it. Yeah, I don't think Brunell made it.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
And the Titans are the last team I think.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Oh the Titans did? They lost? They lost?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I think it's Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Okay, I think I'm gonna go with Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
It is Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Okay. Whatever he convinced me, Brunell made it when I asked.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
He took him as an expansion team, I think to
the playoffs and won a few games.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah. Yeah, well I tried to convince you otherwise.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I don't know what you tried me to do. I'm
really confused and turned around.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
It's like what they play that game with the bat
where you put your head on the bat and they
spin you around.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
They go, That's what I feel like we did. Yeah. Yes, uh.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
And then bonus question which team will be the first
to claim their first Super Bowl out of those twelve that.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Have not won yet.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Lions, Okay, I'm going Bills. Oh great, when I didn't
think about that. Bill's great.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
I think the Bills have a harder time to get
there through the AFC though, than the Lions do the NFC.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
If I could counterpoint, you both are great guesses. Both
are great guesses and and it's like my chance was
with Allen.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Yeah, I like it pretty good division in the East,
even though I think the Patriots are on the coming.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Yeah, but he's got to get through Baltimore and Lamar.
He's got to get through Burrow and Cincinnati. The quarterbacks
are in the city, so much more obviously. Yeah, making
my homes Okay.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Good good all good, good job, great job. We got there.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
That was I'm dizzy.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I originally had it like timed out, and it's a
good thing I didn't.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, that was a definitely longer segment than we thought.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
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He has former Pro Bowl quarterback Matt freaking Castle. You're
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guys for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
This is two episodes in a week.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
We're feeling it so much that we decided to do
two episodes this week of Lots to say. I do
have my list, which I do every week, and it's
I have the top five things that Bill Belichick and
his girlfriend have in common.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Oh god, this podcast is fire. Let's light Castle up.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Let's go after Katy Perry.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
But now we're getting into Belichick and his girlfriend.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Gotta print that.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oh oh yeah, can you punt that for me?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
So the Bill Belichick story is interesting to me because
we met her.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yes at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, kinda it look weird.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
And listen, I'm eleven, almost twelve years older than my
wife I'm not gonna hate on it even twenty And
who cares even if it looks what?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Who cares?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Nobody's doing anything wrong? Right, like it doesn't matter, and
who who cares? What I think? Because I actually think, Man,
if they love each other, let it rip. I have
no problem with that. But it did look a little weird.
I would thought I would have thought that was a
grandpa and granddaughter.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
There's no doubt because that's kind of sh I mean,
that is the age difference.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It is.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It's definitely a significant age difference.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I'm sure you saw the CBS Morning News clip. I
sure they jumped in. That was pretty wild. And people
think that maybe people that don't know think that maybe
he could be losing it.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't feel like he's losing it.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Do you. I don't think that he's losing at all.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
I also feel like she's in probably some type of
PR role at least to be in that meeting, unless.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well, she's running everything now she is.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
But there's got to be something where she is in
a certain role in which she can feel that she
can do that consistently.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right, I'm going to tell you that I have PR people.
They would never do it like that.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
No, probably not.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That is a green, green, green PR person.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
But it was personal too for her because it's talking
directly about her, and if she is in that PR role,
then maybe that's why she felt like she needs to
step in and say.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
This wasn't part of the interview. You guys never sent
this over.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I think that's just the only one they showed though,
because at one point they said that she walked out.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
She yelled in a couple other times for a couple
other questions.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, but that's confidence too.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
I respect that because it's a lot of confidence coming
from I mean, she's young, right.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Twenty four.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I mean that's a lot of confidence to be in
that meeting with CBS. I'm a sit down interview and
say hey, we're not doing this.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, I hear you look at it like that. I
hear you.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
And the thing is, I think Bill Belichick knows exactly
what he wants.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I think it's mentally great. It's just weird.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
It's just weird. But weird doesn't always mean wrong. True,
because I think I'm weird, but that doesn't mean wrong.
I mean I'm wrong about a lot of things, but
like I'm not the whole situation is bizarre because North
North Carolina now wants them to hire pr because it's
starting to tarnish the North Carolina reputation.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Well, that's what everybody's talking about, and that's the issue
that people are having probably with the university and the
ad and everybody else involved. Is none of it is
about UNC and this legendary coach coming to coach at
their university and bringing that type of light to the
team and the players. It's all about this drama that's unfolding,
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that's in tabloid news. And it's the wrong type of
PR that you want for the program, especially when you
make that type of significant higher and yees pay somebody
that much money to come in and change the outlook
of your program. That I can understand why they might
be a little bit upset.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, because you just spent a bunch of money and
they had a bunch of an eye own money, right
And it's about the program. But you know what, it's
not about the program at all right now. No, it's
not like nobody's talking about what North Carolina football is
going to do. And if they do talk about North
Carolina football, it's that she's on the field.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Have you seen the clips of her on the field.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Everything revolves around their relationship.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
It's like a soap opera and it's like, uh, I
don't even know what to tell you.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Well, you think Kevin is a fan, A massive Belichick
Patriots fan, because my non Belichick fan, non Patriots fan,
definitely not a hater though, rooted for the Patriots because
I love to see dynasties and consistent success because consistency
in anything is almost impossible. So definitely not a hater.
But to me, nothing wrong with what's going on. It
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is weird, and I do feel bad for the peace
people that made the decision of North Carolina to right
now to bring him in because they're not talking about
the mac brown less because.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
He actually took that to the next level.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
North Carolina football team with the greatest football coach of
all time now coaching thoughts, I.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Never thought we would get here with Bill Belichick, for sure.
I mean him and the Patriots and him in North
Carolina are like two completely different people. Obviously, the relationship
he has with a much younger woman is his own prerogative.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
He can do what he wants.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Also, let's go yeah, I mean, yeah, if that's it yet.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Who knows to him?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And I just think he's at the moment now where
maybe he's like, even the whole pr stuff, he's like, man,
I don't care. He's always kind of been that mentality.
Castle could probably attest to this where he's like, I
don't care what anybody has to say. But now it's
getting to the point where he's like, oh, maybe I
should start to care.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Does a distraction make him care?
Speaker 7 (05:56):
I mean, if you watch the clips from that interview,
that was the most frazzled I've ever seen him in
an interview where he just he always exudes the look
if I don't want to answer it, I'm not going
to answer it, just straight up, and it kind of
was like a deer in headlights at times, where you're
sitting there going wait, is that Coach Belichick like it
just the whole situation was awkward, and it just continues
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to get a little bit more awkward every little thing
that comes out about the program, the relationship, whatever's going
on there, because everybody's obsessed with it, and it's the
day and age that we're in that they see something
that's unorthodox, that is not common for whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Reason, no reason, No, I know it's not common.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, I mean it's a gap.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I think the distraction part, though, will start to make
him care, because you're right, I don't think he cares.
I think he's got blinders on. He has a goal
he wants to hit it achieve. But I think because
it's going to be such a distraction now, he'll probably
start to care more.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Yeah, and it almost seems like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I don't know that for sure obviously, but dating this
girl and having this image is something that like he
wants the public to see. Like I don't know what
that image is necessarily, but dating this young, good looking
woman where he's like, see, guys, I still got it.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (07:09):
I don't know is his ego or what still got it?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
All right?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I just would have had my again, as somebody who
has had to answer a lot of questions about a
lot of things, even sometimes uncomfortable things, I would have
just had that story prepared, because you know, somebody's gonna
ask it at some point. It just it's not if
it's when and they're gonna go, hey, how'd you guys meet?
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And just how you just say it. We've been on airplane.
You guys may have seen this. I signed a yearbook.
It's over I signed.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I guess it was our college textbuck, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah? Yeah, you just have that prepared. That's all.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
That's A good PR person would have been like, Hey,
they may ask you this, just say this and they
won't even follow up, probably because you're gonna give them
everything they could possibly ask for.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, and for twenty years they had the best PR
in New England where it's like nothing got leaked out
and he made sure and if they did, then guys
like Welker when he talked about Rex Ryan's feet who
get suspended or whatever it was. And then now to
see Belichick doing this, you're like, what the heck happened?
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Even after tough losses, how did he always respond they
wanted to continue to go back on a Tuesday and
ask him about you know what took place and we're
moving on, we're moving on.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Just shuts it down.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
If he just did that, that would be more par
for the course than what we saw in that interview.
And that's where you see this fundamental change of like, wait,
who is this guy standing in front of the camera,
because if he truly didn't care, he would just sit
there and say, I'm not talking about that, and they
would shut it down because they know that's the type
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interview he's going to be.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's a great point because he easily could have done
the Belichick and he didn't even do that.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And he wouldn't have to explain himself at all.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Anyway, I'm the top five things the Bill Belichick and
his twenty four year old girlfriend have in common. Number five.
They both understand power dynamics. He ran an NFL franchise,
she runs him.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Oh gosh, you have been writing jokes this season.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Yeah, I kind of went back in it. You're into it, Yeah,
I'm back in it. Number four. They both do skincare.
She has a twelve step Korean routine. He washes his
face with the same soap he uses on his truck.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Number three.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
They both enjoy watching film, her euphoria him third down
blitz packages. See that was all nice.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Nice? Yeah nice.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
This is not a rose. It's what they have in common.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, have in common.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
They both say they're low maintenance. She means only five
hundred dollars for a facial, He means a hoodie he's
owned since the Bush administration. See and number one the
number one thing Bill Belichick and his twenty four year
old girlfriend have in common. They both have trust issues.
He won't trust a rookie corner in the fourth quarter.
She won't let him follow anyone named Megan on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
There you go, thank you that Wow, that was very good,
thank you, very insightful. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
It won't be nearestunny next week Because'm about to do all
my jokes, about to shoot my load with the Brooks
and done things.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Then I'll be done for a while.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Wait to see I mean this.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Hopefully we'll get to see that that part of the roast.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Do they know that you're rustling in?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
They don't. And if you do see it, that means
they went really wrong.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
No, that means you cross the line.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yes, really wrong.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
How do players feel about kickers in the locker room?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Not in the locker room, but like in the locker room.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
What's the feeling about kickers as they are a part
of the team.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
You know what, kickers are kind of their own entity
because they operate outside the realm of what our schedule
is and our normal agenda is.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
So like when we're out.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
When we're in meetings, they're doing their own things because
they don't have meetings like pat field goal. They're not
studying blocking assignments or anything. They're literally saying this, when
I flashed my hand, snap it to put it down,
we're going to kick. So they just they have a
completely different schedule, so you don't see him a ton
during the day. They're in special teams meetings in the morning,
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maybe after practice, and then the days that they kick,
they come on the field usually when we do a
field goal period once once a week during practice, and
then it's before practice after practice, so you don't spend
a ton of time with them. But every kicker I've
been around, they're usually cool dudes. They're good at everything,
They're very skilled at what they do, and at the
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end of the day, I've never had a problem with them.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And I know that.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
There's certain guys, probably more on the defensive side than
the offensive side, that get a little bit more heated
when it doesn't go the way that the kicker wanted
to go, but that's part of that position as well.
If you do your job the right way, nobody will
ever talk about you or you hit the game winner.
Somebody will talk about you, but they only remember, oh, well,
he missed that kick and that cost us three points,
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or this that or the other.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It's a tough position.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
To be in.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Are they considered peers?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (12:06):
I mean Ryan suck Up, who he lives here in Nashville,
played with me for six out of my fourteen years
in the NFL, is one of my dear friends. Great guy,
great human, and so Steven Goskowski also another guy that
played with in New England, a great kicker for New
England for a number of years. He might he's up
there in terms of total points and everything else. Another
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really good friend of mine. So these guys are great,
great individuals. I think sometimes the the misconception is that,
you know, nobody likes kickers and they do their own thing,
and they're kind of an outcast in the locker room.
If you're a normal dude and your teammate your a teammate,
is that the Is that a good way to put it?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
But I think what and again, never been in the
locker room? Are kickers normal dudes for the most.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Part, For the most part, for the most part, you know,
they have their quirkiness. Again, I think it goes along
with a position too, because it's such a mental game
for them. You're either kicking. It's like a golfing you see.
Those guys sometimes get the yips and they're not hitting
it well, and it's this whole mental anguish that they
go through and they're battling themselves to get back on
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track to where they need to be.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Speaking of kickers, we can jump into this for a second.
Justin Tucker was let go. The Ravens release Justin Tucker,
the team announced on Monday. The Ravens made the decision
amid allegations from sixteen women that Tucker engaged in sexual
misconduct during massage therapy sessions. The behavior took place between
twenty twelve and sixteen and eight different spas.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
He struggled last year.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
He is getting older, but probably if your mind ain't right,
you're probably struggling because you right.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Let's be honest, the stress of those type of allegations
coming out, probably behind the scenes, knowing that that's eventually
going to come out, You've got a family, everything else
that goes on that has to play a role in
how you perform because there that's a whole different level
of stress and a reputation that is now tarnished until
seeing otherwise because of course, in this society, you're guilty
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before being proven innocent, versus innocent before being proven guilty.
And I don't know what's going to come out, and
I'm not going to pass judgment because I don't know
all that stuff. But that for sixteen women and the
allegations and all that, it's really difficult from an organization
to move forward with that type of weight and decision
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needing to be made.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
If we were two or three, I really would be like,
let's let's investigate this. We don't want to jump, we
don't want to make any decision. It's sixteen.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
I say this all the time, and any time a
situation like this comes out, played in the league for
fourteen years. Normally, when you go to any particular city,
you find one person that you trust, you're comfortable with,
and you trust that person because they work on your body,
they know your ailments and whatever, and that's what.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You go back to.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
You rarely have more than two three if there's a
special list that you're working with. But to have sixteen
people or whatever, I'm not again, I'm not saying passing
blame or guilt or anything like that. I'm just saying,
in my experience, that's normally what you have.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You got your one, two, potentially three.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
That's a specialist, trusted people that work with you to
get you to your optimal level to go perform.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And again, we don't know what happened. We can't say
what happened.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
There are many cases of people that have been accused
of something and it not being exactly as but that
number sixteen feels different than a much much lesser number.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That is a lot of that's a lot of collusion.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
If so, it's a lot of people that would need
to work together to go we're all going to do
this sixteen. So I understand why the Ravens had to
do this. I mean, he's he's the best kicker of
all time, right, I mean, I guess you could argue
there's a page or two up there, but yeah, but
he's the best kicker of all time.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
But when I think about last year, because he was
kind of sucking at times. But you're, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
They lost multiple they lost multiple games in the beginning
of the year because of miss field goals. And that's
why when you sat there and watched last season. Everybody's
asking that, and even myself, I'm sitting there going this
guy's been the most one of the most consistent kickers
of all time, probably will go down as one of
the top one or two kickers place kickers of all time,
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and it was so uncharacteristic for him to have that
type of dramatic slide that he had. Now, sometimes you say, well,
is it injury related? Because all these guys, you know,
they get hip or knee or something like that, that
there's some displacement and that results in some bad days
of kicking, but not throughout.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
The course of the season.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I was on your Instagram and you reposted a picture
of Edelman, Who's going into the Hall of Fame, right,
and I'll write, I'll say what you wrote, the perfect
embodiment of the Patriots way.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Congrats Edelman eleven.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Now, I know you guys didn't play together specifically, but
I'm assuming you guys were at least around each other
or you heard stories. Can you give me three good
Edelman stories?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Well, you know, Edelman and I got to know each
other really well because he would spend his off seasons
in Manhattan Beach, South Bay Area where I was every
off season, and so because of my relationship, a close
relationship with Brady, we'd work out and throw in the
off season. And you have to understand a lot of
times it was geography wise. If you're in a specific
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city or area, you'd get guys from all over to
come out if they're in that area, to come throw
because they want to get their work in.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
So I started to throw with.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Edelman and Ambadola, Danny Amadola and those guys with Brady
throughout the off seasons, and if Brady can show up,
I was there.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
So we started to get to know each other.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
And this was before he became even Edelman, and so
we started to throw and I was like, this kid's
really good. And I remember having a conversation with Wes Walker.
I said, did you guys draft a quarterback? He's like,
he's actually playing wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And I'll tell you what, he's pretty good because he
was a Ken State quarterback.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Ken State quarterback, So I thought they drafted a quarterback
to come in and I was like, what's what's it?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Because this is the year I left. He came in.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
So then I fast forward to twenty twelve, and at
this point he hadn't arrived right. He had minimal work
at wide receiver. He was more of a punt returner,
but also had a lot of value because he played
on the defensive side the ball when there's some injuries,
great special teamers, and then had a minor role on
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offense because Wes Welker was still there. Then Wes went
to Denver in twenty thirteen, and I remember between that year,
Edelman had a decision to make.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
He's getting offered a.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Little bit more money to go to the New York
Giants or stay take a little bit less money with
the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
And he called me.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Just to get my thoughts on it, and I said, honestly, dude,
Welker's not going to be there. You know, this is
an offense that operates in a certain way. They're going
to put you in a great position. They know your
skill set, and you're going to step into that role
and you're going to crush. I would bet on yourself
and take a little bit less money, even though you
feel a little bit slighted at this point. And see
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now I guarantee that my advice wasn't the only opinion
he was talking to right. I'm not trying to take
any credit whatsoever. But that next year, in twenty thirteen,
he goes off right over one hundred catches, over a
thousand yards and he arrived and I knew that he
always had that potential just throwing with him because his
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mannerisms and how he had the same type of body
control that Welker did. He learned and was a great understudy,
and he was now a younger version and he was
ready to step in. He knew the offense and when
he exploded on the scene, I was like that, I
knew this was coming. It was just about seizing that
opportunity and getting that opportunity, and that's when Edelman took off.
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So that was really cool for me to sit. I
wasn't a teammate of his, but I knew that he
was a grinder and what he had to go through
in the adversity of sitting behind somebody like Welker and
not knowing what your future had in store for you
and the uncertainty of it all, and then to go
out and get that opportunity and take advantage of it
when he did was was awesome.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
He also played multiple positions as in wherever where turning.
If he was playing defense, you know, playing in the
defensive backfield for some series. Like he did whatever it
took to be on the team, which you know, I
think is a guy like me who feels like I've
just had to grind through and.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Figure it out. Like I look at that and go,
that's the kind of guy I want on the team.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Oh. He and he's like a football player.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
He loves it and everything he did it was one
hundred miles an hour, Like there wasn't anything where he
was just like I'm going to walk through this. At
least when we would work out, it was like, dude,
we're going out to work. Then he'd go and he'd
want to run sprints. After he was dedicated to it.
He wanted to be really good. And when he got
that opportunity, he not only became good, he became great.
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And he showed up in the biggest moments. I mean
some of the some of those Super Bowl runs obviously
super Bowl MVP, but the catch against Atlanta that's going
to go down as one of the greatest catches super
Bowl history. But leading up to the first Super Bowl
that he won, it was the throw against Baltimore. Remember
the double pass where he rips it down the field.
So he was just all around great competitor. He was tough,
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but he was also he worked at his craft time
and time again. So it was awesome to see him
get recognized because he's also one of those guys off
the field. He also goes one hundred miles an hour
and he's such a great personality. But he's authentic and
you've seen him on the podcast and all that. He
holds no punches, but he is somebody that gets along
with everybody and you know where you stand with him,
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and so he's a fun dude.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I remember going to the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
And this is his first my first time with him
at the Kentucky Derby, but Amadola was there, Gronk was there.
I was like, I wonder what the scene because you
hear all the rumors, but I hadn't been out to
party with him yet.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
So we go I think it was the Maxim.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Party, and we go out and everything was kind of
subdued up to that point. We went to the Barnstable
Brown Party maybe one before that, and then we get
to the Maxim Party and next thing, you know, now
you start to see Gronk come out and there's bottles
to the table, people are all surrounded. I was like, dude,
I need to throw my ninja smoke and get out
of here. Like it was wild on tables, dancing crazy like,
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and so it was just like, yes, spring the energy,
bring Edelman around, He'll bring it.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Hey, Kevin, you're a massive Patriots fan. What's your favorite
Edelman story that you as a fan? What do you
remember about him that you when I say Edelman's awesome,
but what comes up?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The dude just took hit after hit after hit. I
mean the Super Bowl against the Seahawks against Cam Chanceller
right the middle, nailed him, got up and then still
got fifteen yards. He was down anyways, but still got
another fifteen yards and I think he got a little
concussion off of that one. So my most memorable thing
for him is just taking a beating year in and
year out, getting up and Brady's still just like trusting
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them every game.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Well, that's the thing about those guys, particularly in the slot,
that you have so much respect for guys like Edelman,
Guys like Welker we talked to last week, was they
subject their body to so much pain because you're constantly
running routes over the middle in traffic, linebackers, safeties that
are bearing down on you, and can you make that
catch in the pivotal moment to move the chains, to
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to do what he did in Atlanta where their safety
is converging. You know, all those things in cam Chancellor
where you just have to have such a dynamic mindset
to be able to sit there and know that you're
gonna get hit and then still make the play.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I think there's a bit of a misconception now too,
that because they can't rip your head off, that it
does still hurt. Meaning if this were nineteen eighty eight
and you're going across the middle, you might die.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Seriously, you might die. How about the clubbings that used
to take place, like.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
They literally would target that area, Yeah, to knock somebody out,
to absolutely assassinate somebody, anybody that comes across. Ronnie and
Lot made a living in that area of the field
because you know that that guy is going to go
up for that ball and guess what, I'm not even
going to look for the ball.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I'm just gonna take his head off.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
And I think because they're going, well, we can't really
hit him across the middle.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
That's really not the case that all two things have changed. One.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
The players now even though they can't we'll just say target.
Even though they can't target and destroy, there's so much
more athletic and you're just in the middle of all
those bodies. So even though you're not getting your head
popped off, you've got guys that are bigger, fascire, stronger
than they were twenty years ago, and you're near them
all the time. So you're going to get hit more
(24:41):
because you're just playing in the middle of the field.
So you may not not have the death shot one
or two a game, but you get hit twenty times
by guys that are bigger, fashion stronger than what existed
twenty five thirty years ago.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Right.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
And also those guys, especially in you guys's offense or
the Patriots, like the Welkers, the Amadolas, those are not
small in comparison to me and Kevin, but like smaller
stature guys.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
They're two ten, two fifteen.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But they're not They're not six to two.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
No, you know, they're guys that when they're up against
a two forty five linebacker, they can run a four
to six like that crap.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Hurts, oh yeah, or a two twenty five safety that
can run like a deer and come.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's coming right at you as you're going across.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
It's different when gronks to seventy or two sixty five
running across and when you hit him, you're ricocheting off
of him. But when you're two ten, two fifteen and
somebody's coming downhill and hit you with force, that's a
different animal altogether. So you like that guy, loved him, man,
I mean we.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Still talk occasionally.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
He's just he's a great dude and somebody that I've
got the utmost respect for.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But he's also a friend of mine.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
He's an awesome guy.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Before we go, Kevin's got a game for us here.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I love games, and I think we're like one on one.
I don't think I won the last one. I think
I started strong enough.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I won the last one. You definitely won the first one.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Yeah, you guys are one on one.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
It was quotes. The first time you crushed on that,
I was in a whole other world.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
And then where they play college ball? Five draft?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
All right, So the game today is.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
This one is more of a team game.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
We played together.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, you play together hand, Yeah, you sit on each
other's lap for this one. So you gotta guess. First
of all, I'm gonna ask a couple of questions, and
the first question is going to be how many teams
do you think have never won a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I'll tell you, guys, talk that one out.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
How many teams? So the Lions have never won, the
Browns have never won.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
But the next question is going to be which teams?
So don't, oh, just off the head, off top of
your head, how many teams?
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I mean at least two? Okay, Benniso's never one, jack,
but it's hard for us not to say them.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Let's go straight to it.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
The Panthers haven't ever won one, have they? No?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Cleveland home Okay, So that's we're at five right.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Now, So let's go straight to it.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Okay, so hold on, let's see. We're gonna go the Lions.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Okay, we're gonna go Cleveland Jaguars because Brunell never won
a Super Bowl? Right, No, okay, because they got close,
but they didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Blake Bortles even won a game.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
So you got the Lions, the Browns, the Jags, the Jags.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Oh, the Texans. Haven't we have forgot the Texans because they're.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
New Texans, haven't Texas?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I would have forgot the Texans. I forgot to go
new teams.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
There's four.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I thought we were at.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Five, Browns, Lions, Texans, Jags, Minnesota Vikings five.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Even like you sure about that?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I don't know that You're not right. But even like the.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Tarkentin day, they never won won quite certain, Okay, I'm
with you on it.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
The Panthers did Cam.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
No Panthers never won a Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It made it? Did Jake Delone?
Speaker 7 (28:16):
No, Jake to alone lost to the Patriots. Cam lost
to Denver Peyton his last year.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
That's seven, No, that's six six. So NFC North Bears, Packers.
We called the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Yep, we already said the Lions. So we're good there.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Okay, here's one. They've been to a bunch at the Bengals.
I remember Boomer never won one because I lost.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I cried like a freaking baby.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah. I was definitely with you.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
And they lost even earlier than that too. I don't
know that.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Okay, go with the Bengals for sure. Bengals Bengals. How
many are you gonna tell how many teams?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Or we're just still gonna that's seven?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's seven, twelve? What is five more?
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah, that's why I wanted to know when number.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Okay, let's say more than you say? So far?
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Chargers?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Are we on? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:09):
You're on? You got seven of the twelve.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
San Diego Chargers.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Don't tell us yes or no. Let's see if we
can get them all and then we'll do like prices.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Right, how many do we have?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Right? Okay, San Diego Chargers. Oh, Arizona, but hold on
the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I know we're in.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
They they got blown out by the forty nine ers.
Steve Young, we're fifty five to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I remember my buddy's had a starter jacket, chargers jacket
that I wore.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
I don't think the San Diego Chargers. Oh wait, but nothing,
you go ahead, No, you're right. I was just saying,
my buddy had a San Diego Chargers pull up starter
pull over and I borrowed to wear the night of
the Super Bowl side note and they lost.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, couldn't afford long point.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Okay, so you guys going with the Chargers or no?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yes, I think we're going with the Chargers, Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Correct, they played the steel they lost to the Steelers
and the one that I can remember. So we're gonna
go Cardinals. Don't tell us if we're wrong, though, yeah, Kevin, Okay,
we're trying to get where are we are?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Nine?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
What?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (30:03):
So you've guessed ten?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
So we know we know the Buccaneers have said guests,
we know the Buccaneers have I'm going to Florida. Now
the Buccaneers have, the Dolphins have.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Tampa Bay has already sid Jaguars bags have.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
We already said.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Jacks though, yeah, Jags haven't. Let's go up the East
Coast Panthers already said them. The Giants have, the Jets have.
Let's go Texas.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
What about the Saints Titans?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
The Titans haven't.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Titans have not.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
They lost to the Rams and then.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yes, they were an expansion team lost to the Rams.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
So the Oilers don't count. But even then, but we're
going Titans Titans.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Did that put us at eleven?
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Sorry, that's ten?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That's ten? Should we go di vision by division?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Like let's say a f C West Chiefs Chiefs Chargers
have Raiders know the Chargers have not.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I mean we Chargers we put on the list.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Our Raiders have m HM and Denver has.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Okay, a f C East, so we'll go n f
C West. Oh you want conferences on me day?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Arizona hasn't Seattle, has hasn't Seattle?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Great question, because yes they did? With yes he does,
I think we all go back to Marshawn Lynch. You go,
did they ever deserve to win one? If they didn't,
didn't give the ball to.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Marshall, definitely lost.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Well, yeah, yeah, you're right, because because he doesn't have
a change forty nine ers they have.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
And then we have who's the final team in the
a f C West.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
You said n f n f C wes Sorry Cardinals,
Cardinalshawks forty And.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Why am I blanking on this? I should know this.
I do know this. Rams?
Speaker 5 (31:59):
No, Yeah, Rams, Rams have won. I know if they have, really,
I just think they've been round forever.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I'll go with the Rams for sure. I don't remember
them winning.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I just think that Eric.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Dickerson, I don't think that they won back then San Diego.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
And let's move on. Okay, Let's see if there'snybody else
that comes through though. Uh get you picked that because
I tried to go to stay in the AFC and
you bolded me.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
So sorry, Let's go South.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Okay, Okay, we already have the Titans.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
A f C South.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Colts have one one with Peyton Manning right multiple Houston
we said.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
No on them, so we have we do have them. Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Jacksonville hasn't. Okay, you want to go a f C North,
I'm following you. Okay, We've got Pittsburgh have no, but
we put them Bengals that are on there. Baltimore, Baltimore
has okay.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Okay, and then we've got the a f C East,
which is the Giants. No NFC.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Oh shoot, AFC East. Sorry, I should know this.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Patriots, Dolphins, Patriots, Bill Bills haven't won one. Oh, Kelly,
I think you got its four in a row.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I think you hit it. Yeah, we're in for our
twelve okay is that twelve?
Speaker 6 (33:16):
That's twelve?
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Yeah, Bills?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
How many do we have? Do we have any wrong?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
No, I would.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Say if we were going to take one off, are
we sure the Rams didn't win one or did win
one or didn't win one?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
I think they did, and you made me feel like
a real Oh yeah they did with golf.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, all right, we take that one off.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
No, with Stafford. Stafford, Yeah, they traded golf for Stafford.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Golf got lost to the Patriots. Golf got there, but
Stafford one.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
We're taking the rams off.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
We're taking the rams off. Do we have more than one? Wrong?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Okay, we have one? Okay, okay. So now we're in
the NFC. Bro, I'm just following you all. We're Carmen
san diegoing right now with you.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
NFC East, we got Dallas, we got the Eagles, we
got the Giants, and we have Washington, Washington.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
But the Redskins one would like rip. And they went
three times, yeah, three different quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Yeah for sure. When he got hurt, and remember that
was Doug Gabriel went in Williams. Williams. Sorry, yes, fantastic. Okay,
So they're they're out. So we're in the NFC. Where
are we at? NFC South?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Your organizations really screwed me up here. I have Saints, okay,
NFC South Saints.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Ye, they have Drew Brees. I was there that so
we already said the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Yep, and we already said the who else is in
this South?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
We already said the Bucks.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
Yeah, Panthers, New Orleans Bucks and.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
M Falcons.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Falcons have the Falcons? Falcons?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Falcons?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Are it? Say? So? Did Matt?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
I never won a Super Bowl? They lost, that's a
big one.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
They can't.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
It's the Falcons. Okay, we're gonna go. Falcons, final guests,
the Falcons, final guests, final guests.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
That is correct.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yes, we are pretty good there.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Wow, I'll take us a minute there, but we got there.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Whenever you tour, and I've toured for a bunch of years,
both doing comedy music and doing stand up, they route
you in ways where you go to cities based on
its nearest another city, and therefore you're not really wasting
a lot of money. So if you're gonna go and
you're gonna do Albuquerque, New Mexico, you may go Phoenix,
you may go San Diego.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
You go. That's the tour.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
If Castle routing a tour, we'd start in Boston, our
second show would be in Seattle, maybe back down in Florida.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
The premise of my idea was to go a f
C NFC West, then go a f C, NFC South
or East, whatever you wanted to go. But you're like,
I don't know where you're going. At the same time,
I didn't know where I was going either.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, next question, all right, the last question here, which
teams have never played in a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
There are four of them.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Brown's Lions. Yep, those are the two I know for sure,
Browns Lions. Now, the Jaguars did play in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yes, they did.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
So we're going with these twelve and we're eliminating the
ones that played and lost. So we know the Jags
and we know the Panthers both played in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yes, if you want me to read the twelve again,
go ahead. Okay, you got the Cardinals.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
One at a time. Cardinals, they lost to the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
They did okay, Falcons.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Falcons lost to the Patriots, Bills every game they lost them,
a lot of them. Isn't it crazy to think back
they lost four in a row, Like we were so
we were so young, But if we if we were adults,
that were happening, we would go like, what's happened?
Speaker 3 (37:03):
This is a crazy thing I've ever seen, Like to
go back year and in years just to get there four
years was amazing, What an amazing accomplishment, and then just
not have just one play, go your way, brutal czy.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Alright, go ahead, Panthers.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Uh they're still in.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, they played came in.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Bengals Yep, yep, at least twice. So the Browns already
guessed yep. Lions, yep, we guess them too. Okay, you
have the Browns and lines of your guests so far.
And then we got Texans.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Then they're playing the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Jaguars they did.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I'm pretty sure Brunow playing in.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
The Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Okay, Chargers, Oh.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You made you convinced me?
Speaker 7 (37:41):
Wait wait wait wait, we know the Chargers give us
some wrestler less Jacksonville might be it.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Jackson We already said Bruno would played one.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
I think he did.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
I'm you convinced me that I was right? Oh my god, Okay,
go ahead, Vikings. I don't remember the Vikings playing in
the Super Bowl, but I.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Know agree and all those guys they made it, maybe
made it. Yeah, I don't think Brunell made it.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
And the Titans are the last team I think.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Oh the Titans did? They lost? They lost?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I think it's Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Okay, I think I'm gonna go with Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
It is Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Okay. Whatever he convinced me, Brunell made it when I asked.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
He took him as an expansion team, I think to
the playoffs and won a few games.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah. Yeah, well I tried to convince you otherwise.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I don't know what you tried me to do. I'm
really confused and turned around.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
It's like what they play that game with the bat
where you put your head on the bat and they
spin you around.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
They go, That's what I feel like we did. Yeah. Yes, uh.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
And then bonus question which team will be the first
to claim their first Super Bowl out of those twelve that.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Have not won yet.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Lions, Okay, I'm going Bills. Oh great, when I didn't
think about that. Bill's great.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
I think the Bills have a harder time to get
there through the AFC though, than the Lions do the NFC.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
If I could counterpoint, you both are great guesses. Both
are great guesses and and it's like my chance was
with Allen.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Yeah, I like it pretty good division in the East,
even though I think the Patriots are on the coming.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Yeah, but he's got to get through Baltimore and Lamar.
He's got to get through Burrow and Cincinnati. The quarterbacks
are in the city, so much more obviously. Yeah, making
my homes Okay.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Good good all good, good job, great job. We got there.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
That was I'm dizzy.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I originally had it like timed out, and it's a
good thing I didn't.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, that was a definitely longer segment than we thought.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Thank you all for listening.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
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kind of feeling it. So thank you guys for listening.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
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Speaker 5 (39:46):
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