October 15, 2025 • 46 mins
Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel start with Matt's return to his alma mater to see USC host Michigan. After some thoughts on QB Bryce Underwood, Bobby explains why he thinks College Football needs contracts along with NIL money. Why was it the worst sports weekend ever for Bobby? Matt is excited for Jaxson Dart and Cam Skatteboo in NYC, but Bobby has concerns.
The Chiefs are back? Bobby thinks the Ravens will also rebound when Lamar Jackson returns. Matt has the Steelers as a real contender. Bobby didn't like seeing the Titans fire Brian Callahan while they have a rookie QB. The Seahawks and Patriots have both been surprising and fun. Mike Vrabel is headed back to face the Titans. How do players feel about revenge games? Bobby gives his 3 favorite revenge games. Who were your most impressive teams this weekend?
We wrap with Bobby and Matt's 3 favorite games in NFL Week 7. Do we know who the Eagles are yet? The Colts could be playing in the best game this week. The Lions defense has injuries and they face Baker Mayfield. Coming up next, Super Bowl Champion Ryan Succop!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We Gone Lost, Just.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We Got Lost.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
We're better here and we hope you say, because we
got lost?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, we got lost?
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Just now here's Bobby in that.
Speaker 6 (00:34):
Well.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It was the Tale of Two Cities. It is the
best of times, it is the worst of times, you know,
Charlie Dickens, Sure did.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
I used to read them a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, you can go first, because you were at your
alma mater. USC got you a nice win this weekend.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
Man, it was huge to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This is the first time since working for NBC and
doing college football in the Big Ten that we've actually
got to go to USC. So I have not been
to a game at USC since I played there. Wow,
it's been that lot because during it for fourteen years,
I was playing during season and even during the bye week,
so I was in another state and so it was
just it was hard to get back. So to be
(01:11):
able to go back, and especially for a game like
that against Michigan, huge game for USC as a program.
It was a big game for Michigan, but then to
see a bunch of familiar faces William McGinnis was there,
Marcus Allen, some of my old teammates, Frosty Rutgers, Sunny Bird,
Matt Barkley is a guy that didn't play with but
I've known for.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
A long time.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It was just an outstanding environment and then for them
to go out and dominate the way that they did.
And you know, as a reporter, you're not supposed to
especially a guy that works the sideline giving analytical work
on both teams, you're not supposed to be like, but
I stood on the sideline for the entire second half
and then a lot of times I'll go back to
the truck and watch it there.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
But I was like, it's fun. Though. Oh it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It was awesome, and it lived up to all the
expectations of the game, So it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What did you think about Bryce Underwood on the other side, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know, I think he's still growing up before our
own eyes. I mean, he'll make this spectacular play, but
at the same time, he's still a young kid, only
in his fifth start. He's eight what he's eighteen years old,
and you can tell the physical.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Talent is there. He's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But I also believe that they have to continue to
surround him with more pieces, particular at the wide receiver position,
because right.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Now they're still built as.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
A team that's going to try to run the football
to win the game, and they've got a guy or two,
but nobody that truly scares you as a number one
alpha wide receiver on the outside, and that's hard to
do to go out and ask your quarterback to go
consistently excel in the past game when you don't have
the dudes on the outside.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's so weird to think about nil money for freshmen
coming in because obviously that was a it's a famous
story at this point of Bryce under winning all the
money he got to de commit from LSU stay at Michigan,
which is where he's from, right, So he makes millions
of dollars and as a freshman, you're really only gonna
do so much. And he is a five star, like
no doubt about.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
It, number one recruit in the nation.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Absolutely, if anybody can do it, it's him. And even
he can't be so transcendental that he's going to change
that team right right for them to make that much
money as a freshman, that's where these contracts need to
happen like these two and three year contracts, because the
kid can come in as a five star and he
can be transcendent, and he's going to be eventually. But
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you're watching the best really be pretty good in comparison
to the other players on the field. He's eighteen playing
twenty one to twenty two year olds. It's crazy he's
making so much money as a freshman. This is why
one of those arguments of I love niol I think
players should make money, but I think when you're coming
in making all that money, it needs to be a
two or three year deal.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I believe the same thing, But I also there's
part of me like it should be incentive based. You
should be if you start, however many games, then you
get however many first and few millions. But if you
hit these markers, whether it's passing yards, whether it's touchdowns,
then all of a sudden that elevates to keep it
to where hey, it's performance based, because at the end
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of the day, these guys are coming to school getting
paid in his scenario, ten million dollars and you haven't
stepped on the field yet and proven yourself. Because there's
so many different scenarios that go along with that, and
obviously him coming to that school is the number one
recruit's going to help with recruiting down the road.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
It's going to help with notoriety and all the different things.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And he's also a hell of a player and he's
going to continue to develop, but he's not he's not
there right now and this team's not there right now.
And it's just wild to think that he's going to
make ten million dollars or whatever it is, twelve million
dollars and next year, there's no obligation for him to
stay at Michigan. He could go to LSU, he could
go anywhere in the country if he wants to, and
they would just spend twelve million dollars on him for
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one year. And this is all hypothetical, but.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's quarterback, the familiar Bucks developing a quarterback for somebody
else helping, because there is no freshman that I've seen.
Because you can go to the Dylan rayal As, you
can go to the Bryce Underwoods, you can go to
the Jackson Arnolds. The five star guys that come in
hyped out of their mind, and rightfully so, because of
what they were, how they earned those five stars, but
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nobody's worth that much out of high school, right, So
when you are paid that much out of high school,
I think that is the perfect time for there to
be a we're going to pay you this much, but
we know you can only be so good your freshman
year that it's got to be a two or a
three year deal. You'd hope, right, but it's not hopefully
it gets there.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
There's no loyalty, there's no commitment if to have to
stay there, and there's no incentive to stay there other
than the money. But they all these other schools that
are need a quarterback and say, hey, I've got a
better situation. You see it time and time again, all
these guys leaving going to another school because they think
they're going to be in a better position to go
make more money.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I just wouldn't go after a freshman quarterback. I wouldn't
go if I had, let's say, eight million dollars in
a school that was semi attractive, I'd pay six seven
eight million bucks for a sophomore junior from another school
that had proven that had matured than a five star
that's coming in for the same amount, because you're going
to get so much more from it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And that's exactly the case in Point Indiana. They go
out and get for Nando Mendoza. He's a graduate senior,
He's somebody that's played a lot of football. You can
plug and play. You understand what he is. Now you're
going to try to work with him on the subtle
thing's footwork processing within your offensive scheme. But those guys
are plug and play right now, and you kind of
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have an understanding of is he a finished product? No,
I think we can get him a little bit better,
but we also know through his maturity and what we've
seen on film that this guy can perform at a
high level. So I'm in agreement with you, because when
you take a five star, it's still a major adjustment
for young kid to come in on that stage and
perform right now, right away, at the highest of level
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against guys like you're saying that are third, fourth, fifth
year guys that have been doing it for a long
period of time.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
AJA Likewise, another example of a kid who came out
with a five star. Joey Aglar is an example the
opposite right, who wasn't the highest talented kid, but he's
killing it at Tennessee because he did put in the years.
He is inside of a scheme. He was at UCLA
for a minute and then yeah, yeah, that's fun that
you got to go to that game. My sports weekend
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was terrible. It was. It was literally one of my
worst ever.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay, yeah, I know, I saw some of your socials
and just you were potentially going to go the game,
but you said, you know, I'm just going to stay home.
I'm going to watch them both talk to me about it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But no, it was I was going that morning, and
I was going by myself because I was just going
to go and be a little red block and a
sea of orange at Tennessee. And my wife's like, I
think you should reconsider yeah, And I'm like, because you
want me here, you're pregnant, you need me. She goes, No,
not at all. I'm fine. I said, then why she goes,
Your two teams are playing the same day, and if
(07:50):
they both lose, the one thing you're not going to
want to do is drive four hours home. It is
going to be miserable for you. And I got a
little offended, and I'm like, what do you mean? She goes, well,
and they're both not the favorite, so you think they're
both going to win. She goes, I don't think either's
gonna win, and again I like, I get like, and
I said, okay, well, when Arkansas wins, I'll show you.
(08:12):
And then they didn't. It was terrible. And then the
Cubs lost too, and it was terrible. So she was
right in the end.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
What was the harder loss to take?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, the Arkansas loss was harder for me because it's
kind of new. Bobby Petrino is back, we had a
week off. It just felt like new seasons. We're only
oh to one in the SEC, and those teams, all
all those teams are going to lose a couple of games.
There's so much parody.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I knew the Cubs just didn't have the pitching, they
didn't have the depth. We've known that all year. So
I felt like, man, if we win this game against
the Brewers, that's awesome. We're about to get run by
the Dodgers. But that's cool. But the Arkansas lost her worse?
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Did It's stung? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, there's a chance that Bobby's still there at the
what's he going to have to do to retain that position?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Great, I'm glad you asked all the all the boards recently,
he needs to win four games?
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Four games? Is it that?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I wouldn't say it because Kevin pull up the rest
of the schedule, because we have Texas, A and M,
we have L s U, we have Texas, we have
Mississippi State and Missouri.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
The Mississippi State surprising some people.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
All those teams are surprising people. So I think those
are Is that it those five?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, you said A and M, Auburn, Mississippi State, L
s U, Texas and Missouri.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So if if he if he goes four and two,
but you know, for of those teams are ranked, I
think he gets looked at for the job I think
we're going to have now. I know, I get I'm
lucky enough to be in some of the conversations that
the surface conversations with boosters. Of course, I'm not giving
him a million dollars, so I'll say that upfront. I'm
not part of that. You might I'm not not.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I don't want like a celebrity splash coach. I want
a coach who has either a one at different levels consistently, Like.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
The super Bowl is not good enough for you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I feel like he went what didn't he go in
though and take Dungee's team.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, so yeah, he still is a super Bowl winning
comes that's fine, but if he hasn't won most places
he's been, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Even hating on Gruden. It's great. I like John Gruden
just fine. I think he comes in though as like
a celebrity coach. People just want the name.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I would rather have someone that has won at multiple
levels or at smaller schools and has been a ten
eleven game winner in multiple places. I haven't liked James Franklin,
like the fact that people are going, you don't want Franklin.
He's washed, dude. What he completely turned the program around.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
He wins ten games every single year, and until this
year it was the losses were to two teams, Ohio
State in Michigan prior and then this year has been
an absolute debacle.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
The Oregon game one one, we're Oregon, totlely fine.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
They go for two, maybe the game's over and they
got beat by ucla road trip and then Northwestern last week.
So then, yeah, with that fan base and the expectation
of that fan base, and that's the that's the thing
sometimes about fan bases that can be a little bit frustrating.
Penn State hasn't won a national championship since nineteen eighty six,
like Joe Baturner Joe paturnaal in nineteen eighty six, that's
the last time they played in the national championship.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
The weird thing for us at Arkansas is all these
jobs are now opening up, which makes it even harder
to get the coach, right because everybody's trying to get
the coach. If it's going to be Florida, if it's
going to be Auburn, if it's going to be Virginia Tech,
if you could just go down the line for sure.
So yeah, I don't know. I kind of am uninvested emotionally,
but I would like to have somebody who's won multiple
(11:36):
places at a high level. So Jem's Franklin' school because
you wanted Vanderbilt want a Penn State Like, that's good,
It's gonna be James Franklin. Because we're not. We're gonna
end up with like a really offensive coordinator or defensive
coordinator from somewhere. I know what's gonna happen, but it'd
be nice to get Listen, whatever, it's just not gonna
end up well, but nothing ever does for me. I'm
the biggest freaking loser when it comes to happens. But
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I have a theory about life that you know when
you're born a certain amount of good fortune that has
bestowed on you. And it's like Madden ratings, right, like
you could have an eighty seven throwing power, you could
have a ninety one speed, a forty one awareness. I
had my number, My MAD numbers were high. Professionally, I
was given grit and drive. Not a lot of talent,
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but grit and drive, and I've had success because of that.
I met like an eleven on having teams that win,
like I got like a ninety six on success and
like professional but like eleven on having sports teams that win.
And that's just the way it came.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry for you. It's going
to break through at some point.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I don't know if it is at Arkansas, to be
honest with you, but it's not Cubbies.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But they wanted sixteen and that was amazing. I think
I told you that story was my first time ever
to go on the CMAS on freaking CBS, first thing
they ever invited me to be as one of the
people on the actual television show, and it was Game
seven of the World Series, and I told him I
can't do the show, Let's go. I stayed and watch
the Cubs in the world too, at home by myself.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
That is sports loyalty.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Because I was like, I've been waiting my whole life
for this.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Yeah, and this is so I got to be there
and present for it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I skipped the show and watched the Cubs win after
a rain delay, and it was it was worth it,
worth every every minute they won. By the way, that's
a good hat. Yeah, La, I'm not seen.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Lax was selling them.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I get off the plane. I was like, that looks
pretty good.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I'm in La.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Let's go as a good Dodger hat there. Yeah, Oh
that's right. I didn't know what you were saying. Yeah,
I know, I know Hispanic population says Dodgers with that accent.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Okay, let's go back and forth. You want to go first?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Sure? Yeah? Did you see that.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Cam Scataboo was offered ten thousand dollars worth of lap
dances at a gentleman's club in New York for I
guess his recent performance is pretty pretty impressive thing, and
it made me think I was I was trying to
think about was there any time that I was ever
offered something even remotely close to that?
Speaker 6 (13:52):
And I couldn't come up with anything.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But I do remember it was the day after a
game we were playing away.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
I get into my locker and.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
There's a FedEx package there, and the FedEx package, I
open it and there's all these condoms in there, and
then had this sheet with letterhead and it says, dear
mister Castle, h, you were sacked the most in the
NFL this past weekend. We thought you would need a
little extra protection, so here are And I forget what
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type of it. Weren't even like a condum that you'd recognize,
like a trojan or it was like a random, brand
new condom thing. So we gave you, however, many condoms
to add that protection for you this week. That's funny,
and I started laughing out loud. I was like, well, one,
I didn't know I sacked the most this wee week,
but the fact that they sent it overnight mail, and
(14:43):
I was like, it's pretty good advertising.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
If there'd have been social media back then, cause I's like.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I think that that probably would have been because I
think Twitter was around, but I didn't have an account.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Extra protection, extra protection. That's cool. Speaking of Campataboo, like
he's that's that's just gonna be like in insanity, right.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
It's absurd the two of those combination together, between Scataboo
and his star power and then Jack and Dart and
the swag and Moxie those two have. They're going to
take over that city if they keep winning.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
See, but I.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Said, here's why I compare it to insanity. This is
not gonna last long. He's not built to last long. Scataboo, Yeah,
I don't know how he plays. He reminds me of
all Stock just beast, but he's not as big. I
don't think he's not as big as All Star was.
Like it's awesome to watch. I like watching Skataboo. I
think we like to see people that look different and
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maybe have that don't have the advantage that other people. Listen,
he's not the fastest guy, he's not the biggest guy,
but he's a ball. Yeah, Like he just goes and
we like that. But I don't think you can play
at that pace and also at that aggression level and
not get hurt.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I think that's a superpower for him though, because, like
you said, it is a it's already a physical game,
but he's delivering the punishment rather than taking the punishment,
and I think that that is an advantage Scataboo until
you get hurt.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
That's every player that goes out, but every player is
not launching themselves like that. I'm not a Scataboy hater.
I like it. I like the Mariconta state. I just
I just see that as like a fireball is. It's
gonna be big and loud. It's gonna look awesome for
a second, but how long can it actually last?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I hope it lasts a long time because I enjoy
watching that guy play. Honestly, it's awesome to watch somebody
go out there.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You're making me feel like a hater because I'm not
a hater. I like Scataboo a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
No, you're worried that he's gonna get hurt, which I
understand your concern, because again, the way in which he
plays the game is very violent and you already take
a lot of hits, but he seeks out the hits, right,
He's going to go and try to say, oh, this.
If he's coming down instead of like getting out of bounds,
he's going to try.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
To ruin that guy's face.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Do you like that the Giants are winning for Dable?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
I do.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, I know Brian Davile. He's with me in
New England. He was also with me in Kansas City.
He's a guy that I've got a tremendous amount of
respect for. He's he's an emotional coach, he loves his players.
He's gonna get after him, but he's he's one of
those guys that I cheer for and root for because again,
it goes back, like we've talked about before, to relationships,
and there's people that you root for because of the
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time that you spent together. And he's always going to
be one of those guys for me.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Okay, I'll take over now and I'll go with Kansas
City and they're back. They were never gone.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
They're never gone.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I mean, they went through their ups and downs, and
they've had a lot of injuries, particularly at the wide
receiver position, but they were never gone. It was just
the panic button that everybody pushes. Early in the season.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
When Worthy wasn't there, you saw a limited offense.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
He comes back this week.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Right, well, Worthy has been I mean he's been back
for she Rice Rice comes back this week.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah. Now the Chiefs are starting to become and I
was listening to them talk during the game on Monday
night or Sunday night. There's too many games on Monday
nights now, but it's Sunday night, right. Yeah. By the way,
that's another thing. No more two games on Monday night.
It's one game on Monday night.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
I know.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You can't focus that hard on two games on a
Monday night. You're like, it's a Monday People have worked.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Where it was like Kancity feels better this year about
this team than they did last year in that team
because last year they were winning those games like crazy,
Like it was like a block kick against the Broncos.
Like every game Kancaity was like pulling a rabbit out
of their butt.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Not their hat, their butt. It's a whole different hole
to come out of.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, it's definitely different. It's sturdier, it is. It's a dirty.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Winds two games next Monday, by the way, of course,
there is you gotta be sa like.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I love it. I love football. I love the NFL
obviously worked for the NFL, but I just wish there
weren't two at the same time on a Monday night.
I need one to focus on. And also it's too
many fantasy players that have still yet to play. We
need that to happen. You need that to almost be
done to like one guy on each team Max. It's
when it's like two on one side one on the other, like,
that's annoying. But Kansas City they have week before that,
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a bye in the week before that, which is next week,
they do have a winnable game. Who they playing next week?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
So they got the Raiders this week's Raiders by the
divisional games Commanders, Oh, Commanders, Raiders, Commanders, Bills, Broncos.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Okay, so I really screwed that up. But I got
all the teams in there. Yeah, I just said all
the team. Yeah. I can't say. It's very tough schedule,
but I'm pretty excited for them.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
I'm excited for them too.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I mean because again, it's the success factor for them
that the everybody enjoys when they lose for some reason,
and it's just because they're winners and they consistently win
and they want to see somebody else.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
But at the end of the day, you still have
Patrick Mahomes. The league is better when the Chiefs are good.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Yeah, love them, hate them, I don't care. But it's
better when the Kansas City Chiefs are good.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
The league is better when big time quarterbacks have teams
that are good, right, because that is a fully quarterback league.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
It is always has been.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, Okay, back over to you.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I guess who's in a worse position here because you
look at the Ravens in the injuries that they've sustained,
and they have had nine starters, including Lamar and Humphreys
and all these different guys go out, but they're also
one to five. But then you look at the forty
nine ers and they just lost Fred Warner, and you
already have Bos out, and you already have Kittle out.
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And I don't even think Brandon Ayuk has played yet,
but they mentioned him purty. I was gonna say party,
even though mac Jones has done a very good job
stepping in for him. But that team's four and two.
But I don't know where Baltimore goes from here until
they get healthy. But it just looks like it's in
complete disarray because the way that the defense has played
this season.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I don't care whose quarterbacking. I don't know if they
can win any of those games.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I think Baltimore wins a division, do you really? I do.
I think they'll lose one more they have a bye.
I think that's when Lamar Jackson comes back, and I
think at that point they're one and six. Again, I
was so wrong on the Chiefs, just going by memory,
but so I.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Think they have want to go through their schedule.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I don't they play next week and then there's a
bye or maybe there's a bye next week. There's a
bye this week, okay, so then then he's back. Though,
then he's back, Okay, they're gonna rattle off like six
or seven, get back to five hundred and get in
as one of those lower seeds, and that's trouble. All
they got to do is get in.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
If they get in and they get healthy, then yes,
I agree. I picked them to win the Super Bowl
in my preseason polls.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I picked and everybody's talking about that. Still of course
they are. Everybody preseason like, look at this.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Guy and they had no idea.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
How look at one and five? Look at the division though?
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Yeah, so uh look I mean, who's got the best
it's the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Steelers are four and one, right, and they're only okay, right.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
But there's four and one is a great start for
the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And so but if I got to have a team
that's four to one in my conference, I wanted to
be a team like the Steelers that just left looked
only Okay, Cincinnati's got two wins, right, yep, yep, Baltimore's
got one win Cleveland did they even play? Are they
done Cleveland?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
One in five? Because they beat they beat green Bay
right in they Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
So my point is I don't think Pittsburgh is good
enough to run away with it, and I think that
that division is still a bit wide open as far
as if Lamar comes back and they're able to pill
off and get the five hundred, I think they can
still win the division.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It could be a crazy year in that sense, just
because of where the division is. And like you said,
if your top dog in the division is the Steelers,
which I think is a beatable Steelers team.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Then they but they're gonna have to get right sooner
than later.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
But you can push back.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
You think the Steelers are good, I do.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I think the Steelers are playing good football. I think
they've got really good defense. I'd say good defense. Maybe
not as elite as they have been in the past,
but a good defense that can keep them in ball games.
I think Aaron Rodgers playing at a really high level
and they're figuring it out, like they're able to run
the football, play action pass. DK Metcalf is an absolute
beast on the outside, so he provides that security blanket.
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But you don't see this dramatic fall off with Aaron
Rodgers game where you're saying.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Dude, he's so old.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Like some of these guys that stick around just too
long and their skills diminished to a point where they're
a shell of what they used to be.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Aaron Rodgers can still play at really high level.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
He might not have the same athleticism and that quick
twitch that he used to have, but when he throws
the ball, it still jumps out of his hand, and
he's been doing it for such a long time and
such a great competitor that he's a guy that I
trust that puts them in a position where he can
go out and manage the game and let that defense
eat a little bit too.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
All Right, I'll go with a guy that soon enough
it's going to be time for him to hang it out.
But I think he's got one more decent year in him.
And I think it's Joe Flacco. I'm here, I'm a
Flaco guy. I'm a huge Flaco guy, and he did.
I love the fact that he just got traded within
the division. Goes out pick and they say, hey, you're
playing on Sunday, new offense, and I don't know how
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much carry over there is. Nonetheless, it's a new personnel,
new lineman, new calls, and he just goes out and plays.
Plays at a high level. I would say semi competitive.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
See, yes, very competitive week.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
One with that team. He didn't have a full week
with them. I think the Bengals end up winning seven
or eight games this season, and that's a lot. Considering
that's a lot. It was going to be the two
they won with Burrow and that's it. I guess Jake
Riand does he get the credit for that win. He
didn't start the game.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
No, he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
He give the credit, right, that's the unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Part for him because most of the game, Yeah, Burrow
goes out in.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Like the first series, didn't you you didn't get credit
for the win. You came in after the first play, right.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
No, it was like the first, first or second series
of the game that Brady goes out, we had zero
points on the board, so when we ended up winning
the game, so I was part of scoring all those points.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
He got the win.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Justice for Castle hashtag justice for Castle.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Pretty sure he's not worried about it too much. Yeah, sorry, Bob,
it goes.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I think the Bengals end up winning seven or eight
games because Joe Burrow is going to be a steady
enough quarterback to not have Jamar Chase and T Higgins
constantly upset they're not getting the ball.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
And he's a dude.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
He understands the dynamics when you have two number one
wide receivers one and then one A with T Higgins
that if I just get them the ball because he's
so skilled at throwing it. He's a pure passer of
the football. So if they can protect him, he'll figure
it out with those two dudes on the outside and
be able to give them an opportunity to go make
plays on a consistent basis. And that's what they need
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right now. If they get some offensive production. I mean,
they're a team that could compete. Still, it's not like
this season's down the tube.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I mean it's pretty far down the tube all the
way in that division, in that division, that's the only
reason that season isn't fully down the tube. And I'm
giving Pittsburgh no respect. I know, I get it, I'm
giving them no respect.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
But everybody has a chance in the AFC North. Yes,
all right, yeah, all right. Can we make a rule
in college football?
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Right now? Your boy Dion Sanders, the Colorado.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Buffalo upset Iowa State, they're ranked twenty second.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
They rush the field. Why do people do that?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It shouldn't it be like one hundred rule that it's
got to be a top five opponent and you're such
an underdog that nobody believed you're a twenty point underdog.
I don't understand why people rush the field when you
beat the twenty second ranked team in the nation.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I think it's a great point here. My theory is
that the more rushing the field is seen, the more
people want to rush the field. So the more that
social media is showing, for example, the Virginia Florida State game,
that's the coolest rushing the field I think I've ever
seen Yeah, they were over the dude.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yes, literally stomped on that dude, is like right, gear.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Like as soon as the past was incomplete, they were
on the field. It was unbelievable. And I think you're
seeing more rushing the field, which then goes viral, which
then really creates more fans wanting to rush the field
and be inside of a viral moment. I agree with
you, you should only rush the field, especially now whenever your
administration has to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for
the second third offense. Same thing with rushing the court.
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But I think social media is actually creating it because
it looks so fun. It's happening more and more. We're
seeing it more and more, which then creates it more
and more. Because you're right, you beat the number twenty
two team. Hey, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Let's go be something to eat. Yeah, like that's what
it should be. Let's get some wings to win.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Well, that was the same thing this weekend.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We were sitting there and Catherine tappan our sideline performer reporter,
comes up to us on the sideline and say, hey,
they're telling us the security. You're telling us that they're
probably going to rush the field after this game. I'm like,
hold on, USC's fans are going to rush the field.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
We're beating the fifteenth rank Michigan.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
We've had bigger games in the history of this stadium
and also this this program. It's a big win for
us at this juncture of the season. But I was like,
there's no way. Thank god they did not rush the
Thank god they did, because they would have been my
number one. I would have been like Trojan fans, stay back,
bigger fish to Fry.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Talking about Callahan getting fired, Yeah, Tennessee, did you know
him at all?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
I didn't know him at all.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Actually, I've never been I've never played with him or
been around him. I've heard he's a great guy, but again,
don't know him really as a coach.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
One in five Yeah, this year, I just feel like
four in what.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Sixteen? Well?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, I mean we could do quickly. Do the maths.
So seventeen games last year and six games this year
and three wins.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Nineteen, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I think you have to give every coach two years.
What did you expect. There's a reason you had the
number one pick.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
And you fired the GM that you brought him in
with last year.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That's it's a perpetual cycle of continuing to lose when
there is no consistency, even if it's mid consistency, there's
it's just disaster. So they didn't even give him a
chance to have a mid team, and I think you
got to give him at least two This is not
college football where you can go out and buy players
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each year. Now, there are a contracts the NFL, but
those contracts are two, three, four, five years. They have
to stay within a contract. You can't just go and
reshape your team in the NFL. They were the number
one pick for a reason. I don't know the guy.
I'm not even a Titans fan, but I feel like
it kind of sucks that they keep firing people. It Sucksiel.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well, that's what it's the front office, right, It starts
with starts with ownership. You go from wizen Hunt to
Malarkey to Rabel, then get rid of Rabel and you
hire a Callahan, and it's just this continuous cycle. And
when you finally have a guy in Vrabel that consistently wins,
particularly early, and then has two down years, they're like, ah,
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we're done with him.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
But it's also the general manager position.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You've changed three general managers in the last three regimes,
and it's how do you find consistency there to where
you develop and have an understanding for what direction you're
trying to take your program? So now you're going to
fire him. And the other sad part about it is
you've got a first round draft pick and cam Ward
and yes it's one in five right now in season
you're trying to develop him to some degree, but now
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you're starting all over with him, and what direction are
they going to go there? He's going to have to
start all over next year with a new head coach,
a new offensive coordinator, and you're not putting him in
a position to be successful.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Who supposedly going to be the future of your franchise.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Jet's probably end up with that number one pick, but
there's a chance they don't. It could easily be the
Titans easily. What do you do if you're the time,
did you draft another quarterback because the front office was inconsistent?
Because you're blaming the play of a quarterback like cam
Ward on actually the inconsistency of the front office because
he had no chance right so, and then they wonder
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why don't we have fans. This is why you don't
have fans, right, you don't when?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And I think that that was probably part of the
reasoning at this point is the fan base is so
down on this team, particularly here in Tennessee with the
new stadium come in and all that stuff, that they've
got to try to create some excitement. So they're going
to go out and make another hire and hopefully get
a higher.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
That brings what is going to take that job?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Who knows, That's what I'm saying at this point, because
what's my leash, you know exactly, especially an experienced coach
that's been around the league and understands it. If you
don't have a loyalty to your coach or give him
some time to develop a roster, develop a team and
what he vision envisions it to be, it's gonna be
hard pressing you go out to get any top name guy.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Seahawks are good too, by the way.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Seahawks are awesome, boy, Sammy Darnold ripping it around.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Patriots are good too. Yeah you want to stay on
the Patriots?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah? Man, Watching Drake May it's just a thing of beauty.
He just looks so calm, comfortable, poised. I think McDaniel's
has really got him dialed into that offense, and they
have no running game right now.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
And he's still just slinging it.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Man.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
It's fun to watch now.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
He's really glazing on. You should know that Kevin's weren't
a Patriots had, like he's a Patriots guy.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
Oh yeah, and they're coming to town this weekend, boys.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
But you yeah, they're playing the Titans. Yeah, maybe that's
why they like.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
He's gonna be in by fifty if he has a
chance to for both of them because they fired him.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, and plus maybe they fired Brian o'callhan early because
they're like, well, this is gonna be embarrassment even worse
next weekend that we fired Rable for this this guy
and he's gonna put potentially fifty on them.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Revenge James are fun if they're really were they a
thing to you?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
You know, it's one of those things if somebody fires
you or let you go, or you're playing your old
team that it maybe didn't in the way that you
wanted to. Of course, you feel that as a human,
as a player, as a competitor, you want to go
out and quite frankly be there there's no doubt about it.
But you sometimes can't let that emotions get in the
way of actually going out and executing the way you
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need to execute, because there are emotions that come with
that that you have to somehow put a side and
just go out and execute the game plans.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Particularly as a player as a coach.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You know, I'm sure that there's a vendette out to
come back here and say.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
The three Revenge of games. So far, in my mind,
I'm gonna go out and put the game coming up
this weekend because I think that Rabel's going to want
to hang half a hundred on them. At number two,
I'm going to put the Micah Parsons versus the Cowboys
game earlier this year, which didn't really turn out well
for Michael Parsons. This was a tie.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Yeah, yeah, it was a tie.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Nobody won, Yeah, nobody want. But at number one, I'm
going to put a game from this past week. Rico Daddle,
Oh my god, I ran it for another two hundred
yards against the Cowboy. He ran two hundred last week,
but this was an angry two hundred against the Cowboy,
and he was.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Selling those tickets.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
He was talking smack on social media and then to
go and back it up the way they did what
He rushed for one hundred and seventy and had another
get over. Yeah, he had over two hundred yards total offense,
scored a few touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
That kid's a dog. And also he's got a really
cool piercing in his face. Where's his piercing right in
his cheek?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Right here? I think? Yeah, See, I don't mess with
people that have piercings in their face.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Did you ever have an ear ring?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I lost a bet one time in high school on
my left ear, and I forget what the bet was.
So I had to go get this thing pierce and
I had it piers for I think it was supposed
to be for a week. I had piers for two
days and I went in and my football coach someb me.
He says, guess what the hell is in your ear?
Say coach, I asked the bet? He said, take that
out right now. I said, yes, sir, so I had
an earing yeah, last pretty long. Did you ever have earrings?
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I could see you as a nose guy.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
No, I had a tongue piercing. Oh that would be
all No, I didn't you guys tongue. Yeah, Bobby, have
a list of day I thought about and in that
instant as I was coming up with that joke, just
somehow am I works? I thought what would be funnier
a tongue piercing or a belly button piercing? And I
thought what would be more the more effeminate one that
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you guys would be like, oh haha, And I went
with tongue over belly button. Would belly button have been funnier?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
No, the tongue or a nipple ring? Well, that would
be pretty.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Nipple rings though, here's the thing. Punk guys wear them
and they look cool.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
I don't know about that, like.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Like punk rock guys, like like the like the Ramones
that all those guys with like nipple rings. You don't
think that.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I just never looked at it as like a fashion cool.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I wouldn't there, But I like, I'm like those others
are punk. Don't put a hole in anything. Seriously, that's
a true statement, yeah, what I'm saying. Last question for
both of us, what team impressed you most this week?
Of the entire NFL slate of action? Who is the
most impressive team to you? To me, especially from a
standpoint of a win.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
It was the Falcons because the Falcons are playing in
the Buffalo Bills and when you look at the Falcons
just a few weeks ago getting just dominated, blown out
thirty seven to nothing against Carolina, and you go, where's
this going to go? And now they've rolled out I
think two straight, one against Washington, one against the Bills
last night, and really they had the Bills in check,
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that offense in check for the entirety of the night,
and offensively, Jean Robinson, My goodness, is that kid as superstar.
He's an absolute superstar. So just watching the rebound effect
from that early season loss and to get blown out
that way and to come back get it together and
the defense is playing better. Michael Pennox's coming along, Drake
London's the stud I mean, I just I was impressed
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with that win at home last night.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I'm going to go back to Tampa because they just
keep proving that they should stay in the conversation of
elite teams, because I think we keep waiting for them
to prove that they're just amid the pretty good team, right,
But they don't. No, they don't.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
But then you also look at the injuries that they
have everybody's hurt. A Mecca booka Mike Evans. You go
down the line, I think they're just starting. Four wide
receivers were out and.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I got it. I got seven snaps. I don't know
if you guys saw me. I was in the game.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I'm telling you, they might might give you a call.
They might give you a call.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
They were out of everybody, but Baker Mayfield still puts
on his Superman cape and goes out and plays like
Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That run that he had was absurd.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
That's a top ten I mean, that's a top play
of the week any week of the season.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
It was just he ran like third and fourteen, right,
something like that to get that first down.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Right, He broke, broke through two sacks, ran through another
person's face, juke somebody out, and then ran through somebody
to get the first down. And he just hopped up
and was like, hmm. So I'll tell you the way
he's playing. I think their defense is obviously a really
good defense under balls, and so they're proving good teams
prove that they can win regardless of the circumstance of personnel,
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and if they can find way when they're unhealthy to
win and not have an excuse.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
That's that means a lot in this league.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
And then as they get healthy, as they move forward,
I mean, that's a dangerous offense unit.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
All right, Now it's time for this week in preview
present of my draft games. From first touchdown score to
anytime touchdown props or the thrill of live in game betting,
every snap is loaded with opportunity. I lost so much
this week, did you?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Well you thousand?
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Well you bet Arkansas and the Cubbies.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
So yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, I bet because you're an emotional involved you bet
more on those games.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I need to say no more, and I'm not. I
don't chase like I bet for entertainment. It's fun for me,
like it gives me. And if I'm watching two teams
I don't care about. I don't have any fantasy players.
You know. I'll do a first touch Yeah, I'll do
it anytime touchdown. I couldn't hit a single bet.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Not one.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Is this one of those days? It's one of those weekends.
But I'm ready. I'm ready to bounce back. Now. Three
biggest games coming up this week, the Eagles at the Vikings.
Eagles are two and a half point favorites. Eagles did
not win. They gotta be about the Giants.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, they got to beat handily by the Giants.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
What are your thoughts on that game?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
You know, when you watch the game, I thought at
some point the Eagles were going to start making their way,
but then the Giants just kept making plays and plays
and plays and it didn't look like the Eagles, right
And I that's the part about the Eagles it's a
little bit frustrating to watch right now, is what is
their identity because Sakuon Barkley hasn't got going yet. The
past game has been mediocre, to say the least. Aj
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Brown is still not really heavily involved. They it doesn't
look like the same identity that they had last year
where they could just pound people and run through people's
face and then when they wanted to throw, they can
throw it will. I think they still have the ability
to do so, but it's still young this season where
they haven't figured out who they are. And so when
I look at that right there, I'm gonna go Vikings
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at home.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
I'm gonna go with the Vikings. Who started a quarterback
for the Vikings. It doesn't matter they got Kevin O'Connell
calling plays dogs.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Right, Okay, fair enough, But I guess Sirianni and O'Connell
have been guests on our show, haven't they.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Yeah? They sure have. Sorry, sorry Nick.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
But remember Siriani last year fire them boo boo, like
two years ago. It was last year too. Theydn't won
the Super they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
Yeah last year. Yeah, they were like two and two.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Really, he's malting with fans.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, who's starting a quarterback for the Vikings?
Speaker 8 (39:45):
It still doesn't say sure?
Speaker 6 (39:47):
I mean, what did J. J. McCarthy do to himself?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I think they's been out for rebuild a whole bionic
leg from what I heard three four weeks.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I think they're just buying time here. He did have
a baby that you don't get paternity to leave you.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I'm sorry, I'm going to I think the Eagles are
bouncing back. Eagles minus two and a half.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
McCart they did practice for the first.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Time, okay, but they're not saying anything about it.
Speaker 8 (40:09):
They're not saying if he's going to play or not.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
All right, I'm going to Eagles minus two and a half.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
You're going Vikings I'm gonna go Vikings at home.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
This second game, This one I'm so interested in. It's
the Colts at the Chargers. Ooh, that's a good game.
That may be the game of the week. There's like
the Bucks and Lions, to which i'mnna talk about in
a second, but everybodys hurt on the Lions, so I
think Bucks, excuse me, Colts and Chargers. Man, I kind
of love that game.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I too because the Chargers, you know, after the hot start,
they've really come back down to earth a little bit
and they had to literally scramble to get that thing
back together against the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
And it was late game heroics by Justin.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Herbert that Herbert passed that late game heroic where they
had him in a sack McConkie.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Awesome, what a play, incredible play. And he takes a
lot of hits, dude, I mean it was crazy. I
saw some kind of stat that he's been hit more
than any quarterback up to this point in his career,
just taking on hits. And he's a big target, but
he's elusive of enough at his size. He's a special player.
So they haven't been playing as we but then you've
got the colts, man, they can just continue to get
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it done somehow, some way. Danny Dimes is playing off
the charts. It's going to be a really good game.
The Taylor is awesome, dude, he's awesome. I remember he's
always been really good. And then the contract and should
they resign him?
Speaker 3 (41:22):
But two years ago when he held out, and it's
like he's a running back and he's getting on up
there in age. Soon enough, he'll be up there in it. Man,
he's awesome. He's every freaking dollars.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
He's an absolute study.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And the charge is right Omarion Hampton's out, he's out.
And then also was it the wide receiver Quinton He
didn't play right, he didn't play either. So that's another factor,
if it, because injuries do matter in this league, believe
it or not, because you can't replace certain guys. And oh,
Mary Hampton is one of the bright running back, bright
(41:54):
young running backs in this league. And when you don't
have him back there and they already lost in Augie
Harris for the season, I mean they're thin at running back.
And you know Harbaugh and the Chargers in general, their
dna to run the ball, to set up the pass.
But if you can't run the ball effectively and stay
ahead on down distance and have to rely on throwing, well,
it becomes a little bit more difficult.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
Are you picking? I'm gonna go with the Colts. Let's
do it. Let's go Colts, let's go Danny Dimes.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
I want the Colts to win. I think the Chargers
win this one. Remember Natron means, yeah, that's what they
need to call back. Get him in there. Start a
jacket time. You wouldn't get a catch. Yeah, yeah, you
can get it started. Start a starter jacket time. Sure, Sure,
Bucks and Lions. On Monday Night, Lions are a four
and a half point favorite. The Lions are missing like
five guys on defense. Follwys that the Lions were? They
(42:43):
were they were getting two and a half points versus
the Chiefs. Everybody was like, that's crazy. How are the
Lions the underdog? Well, we see why, because they didn't
have any defense. Lions are a four and a half
point favorite to the Bucks. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take
the Lions.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Really I am.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I mean because if you go back and watch the
game and like diagnose it from Monday night at the
end of the day. There are plays to be had.
I'm on saying Brown dropped that fourth down. Yeah, there
was another one that would have led to points. Like,
there's multiple scenarios, and there was a touchdown pass I
got called back because of a penalty. There's multiple scenarios
where that outlook of that game could have changed dramatically
(43:19):
if one of those players are made and they had
about three different ones. I don't think that that is
what the Lions have is really who they are as
a team.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
I think they're going to bunce back.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
All I hear is the Baker hater. I don't know
about you, guys.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
He goes, I'm the biggest.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Monologue about Baker. Baker, I'm taking the Lions.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
I think it's going to catch up to him at
some point.
Speaker 8 (43:39):
How about that they're missing a lot of guys, yeah,
bucks offense.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Oh, they both you know what they're both missing. You're right,
it's a lot of guys gone on offense and a
lot of guys gone on defense for the Lions.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
The backups versus the backups, and then the bait.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
It's the ones versus the ones, and the twos versus
the twos.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
Bet on Baker, but I'm going with the Lions.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Because both because the offense of the Bucks are basically
the twos, the defensive Lions are basically the twos.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
It's kind of like you're when we were talking about
this earlier, you got to pick one week where your
starters can't play.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
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Speaker 3 (45:05):
Okay, that is it for this episode. We're going to
do what we did last week, and so if you
listen to this one first, in the next episode, we
are going to have one of Matt's friends super Bowl champion,
one of the best kickers of that generation, right Ryan
suck out?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Hell?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yea, I went. I don't think that's crazy to say.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
I don't think it's crazy to say.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
I have no bias at all about it.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, if you win a Super Bowl and you play
fourteen years as a place kicker, you're you're you're doing
something right.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
What do you call it? Whenever? This is the debate
I've had amongst my friends. When you are on the field,
I don't want to I just don't want to feed
you the words. But when you're on a field and
you can kick a field goal from wherever you are,
what is that called you are in field?
Speaker 6 (45:48):
Goal range.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Thank you, Because these goobers call it field goal position.
I'm like, what is.
Speaker 6 (45:55):
Film and Dummer?
Speaker 3 (45:58):
They're in field goal position? Kevin said, he goes, you're
in a field goal position, and I'm like, I feel
like you're like a European that's learning football.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
Are you talking about real soccer over in yours already?
Speaker 8 (46:10):
I was like, I guess, yeah, it doesn't sound right.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
I don't know why I say it like that. Yeah,
so Ryan stuck up. It's a great interview. We talked
about him playing with Tom Brady. We talk about him
playing in high school. He never really played his soccer player.
It's a great interview. Uh so we'll end this episode
here now, I'm Bobby Bones, it's Matt Castle. That's kick
off Kevin our mister field goal position, and that's Brandon Ray.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
We Gone Lost, Just.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We Got Lost.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
We're better here and we hope you say, because we
got lost?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, we got lost?
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Just now here's Bobby in that.
Speaker 6 (00:34):
Well.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It was the Tale of Two Cities. It is the
best of times, it is the worst of times, you know,
Charlie Dickens, Sure did.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
I used to read them a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, you can go first, because you were at your
alma mater. USC got you a nice win this weekend.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
Man, it was huge to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This is the first time since working for NBC and
doing college football in the Big Ten that we've actually
got to go to USC. So I have not been
to a game at USC since I played there. Wow,
it's been that lot because during it for fourteen years,
I was playing during season and even during the bye week,
so I was in another state and so it was
just it was hard to get back. So to be
(01:11):
able to go back, and especially for a game like
that against Michigan, huge game for USC as a program.
It was a big game for Michigan, but then to
see a bunch of familiar faces William McGinnis was there,
Marcus Allen, some of my old teammates, Frosty Rutgers, Sunny Bird,
Matt Barkley is a guy that didn't play with but
I've known for.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
A long time.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It was just an outstanding environment and then for them
to go out and dominate the way that they did.
And you know, as a reporter, you're not supposed to
especially a guy that works the sideline giving analytical work
on both teams, you're not supposed to be like, but
I stood on the sideline for the entire second half
and then a lot of times I'll go back to
the truck and watch it there.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
But I was like, it's fun. Though. Oh it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It was awesome, and it lived up to all the
expectations of the game, So it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What did you think about Bryce Underwood on the other side, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know, I think he's still growing up before our
own eyes. I mean, he'll make this spectacular play, but
at the same time, he's still a young kid, only
in his fifth start. He's eight what he's eighteen years old,
and you can tell the physical.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Talent is there. He's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But I also believe that they have to continue to
surround him with more pieces, particular at the wide receiver position,
because right.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Now they're still built as.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
A team that's going to try to run the football
to win the game, and they've got a guy or two,
but nobody that truly scares you as a number one
alpha wide receiver on the outside, and that's hard to
do to go out and ask your quarterback to go
consistently excel in the past game when you don't have
the dudes on the outside.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's so weird to think about nil money for freshmen
coming in because obviously that was a it's a famous
story at this point of Bryce under winning all the
money he got to de commit from LSU stay at Michigan,
which is where he's from, right, So he makes millions
of dollars and as a freshman, you're really only gonna
do so much. And he is a five star, like
no doubt about.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
It, number one recruit in the nation.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Absolutely, if anybody can do it, it's him. And even
he can't be so transcendental that he's going to change
that team right right for them to make that much
money as a freshman, that's where these contracts need to
happen like these two and three year contracts, because the
kid can come in as a five star and he
can be transcendent, and he's going to be eventually. But
(03:23):
you're watching the best really be pretty good in comparison
to the other players on the field. He's eighteen playing
twenty one to twenty two year olds. It's crazy he's
making so much money as a freshman. This is why
one of those arguments of I love niol I think
players should make money, but I think when you're coming
in making all that money, it needs to be a
two or three year deal.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I believe the same thing, But I also there's
part of me like it should be incentive based. You
should be if you start, however many games, then you
get however many first and few millions. But if you
hit these markers, whether it's passing yards, whether it's touchdowns,
then all of a sudden that elevates to keep it
to where hey, it's performance based, because at the end
(04:05):
of the day, these guys are coming to school getting
paid in his scenario, ten million dollars and you haven't
stepped on the field yet and proven yourself. Because there's
so many different scenarios that go along with that, and
obviously him coming to that school is the number one
recruit's going to help with recruiting down the road.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
It's going to help with notoriety and all the different things.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And he's also a hell of a player and he's
going to continue to develop, but he's not he's not
there right now and this team's not there right now.
And it's just wild to think that he's going to
make ten million dollars or whatever it is, twelve million
dollars and next year, there's no obligation for him to
stay at Michigan. He could go to LSU, he could
go anywhere in the country if he wants to, and
they would just spend twelve million dollars on him for
(04:46):
one year. And this is all hypothetical, but.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's quarterback, the familiar Bucks developing a quarterback for somebody
else helping, because there is no freshman that I've seen.
Because you can go to the Dylan rayal As, you
can go to the Bryce Underwoods, you can go to
the Jackson Arnolds. The five star guys that come in
hyped out of their mind, and rightfully so, because of
what they were, how they earned those five stars, but
(05:11):
nobody's worth that much out of high school, right, So
when you are paid that much out of high school,
I think that is the perfect time for there to
be a we're going to pay you this much, but
we know you can only be so good your freshman
year that it's got to be a two or a
three year deal. You'd hope, right, but it's not hopefully
it gets there.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
There's no loyalty, there's no commitment if to have to
stay there, and there's no incentive to stay there other
than the money. But they all these other schools that
are need a quarterback and say, hey, I've got a
better situation. You see it time and time again, all
these guys leaving going to another school because they think
they're going to be in a better position to go
make more money.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I just wouldn't go after a freshman quarterback. I wouldn't
go if I had, let's say, eight million dollars in
a school that was semi attractive, I'd pay six seven
eight million bucks for a sophomore junior from another school
that had proven that had matured than a five star
that's coming in for the same amount, because you're going
to get so much more from it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And that's exactly the case in Point Indiana. They go
out and get for Nando Mendoza. He's a graduate senior,
He's somebody that's played a lot of football. You can
plug and play. You understand what he is. Now you're
going to try to work with him on the subtle
thing's footwork processing within your offensive scheme. But those guys
are plug and play right now, and you kind of
(06:29):
have an understanding of is he a finished product? No,
I think we can get him a little bit better,
but we also know through his maturity and what we've
seen on film that this guy can perform at a
high level. So I'm in agreement with you, because when
you take a five star, it's still a major adjustment
for young kid to come in on that stage and
perform right now, right away, at the highest of level
(06:50):
against guys like you're saying that are third, fourth, fifth
year guys that have been doing it for a long
period of time.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
AJA Likewise, another example of a kid who came out
with a five star. Joey Aglar is an example the
opposite right, who wasn't the highest talented kid, but he's
killing it at Tennessee because he did put in the years.
He is inside of a scheme. He was at UCLA
for a minute and then yeah, yeah, that's fun that
you got to go to that game. My sports weekend
(07:16):
was terrible. It was. It was literally one of my
worst ever.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay, yeah, I know, I saw some of your socials
and just you were potentially going to go the game,
but you said, you know, I'm just going to stay home.
I'm going to watch them both talk to me about it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But no, it was I was going that morning, and
I was going by myself because I was just going
to go and be a little red block and a
sea of orange at Tennessee. And my wife's like, I
think you should reconsider yeah, And I'm like, because you
want me here, you're pregnant, you need me. She goes, No,
not at all. I'm fine. I said, then why she goes,
Your two teams are playing the same day, and if
(07:50):
they both lose, the one thing you're not going to
want to do is drive four hours home. It is
going to be miserable for you. And I got a
little offended, and I'm like, what do you mean? She goes, well,
and they're both not the favorite, so you think they're
both going to win. She goes, I don't think either's
gonna win, and again I like, I get like, and
I said, okay, well, when Arkansas wins, I'll show you.
(08:12):
And then they didn't. It was terrible. And then the
Cubs lost too, and it was terrible. So she was
right in the end.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
What was the harder loss to take?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, the Arkansas loss was harder for me because it's
kind of new. Bobby Petrino is back, we had a
week off. It just felt like new seasons. We're only
oh to one in the SEC, and those teams, all
all those teams are going to lose a couple of games.
There's so much parody.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I knew the Cubs just didn't have the pitching, they
didn't have the depth. We've known that all year. So
I felt like, man, if we win this game against
the Brewers, that's awesome. We're about to get run by
the Dodgers. But that's cool. But the Arkansas lost her worse?
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Did It's stung? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, there's a chance that Bobby's still there at the
what's he going to have to do to retain that position?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Great, I'm glad you asked all the all the boards recently,
he needs to win four games?
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Four games? Is it that?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I wouldn't say it because Kevin pull up the rest
of the schedule, because we have Texas, A and M,
we have L s U, we have Texas, we have
Mississippi State and Missouri.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
The Mississippi State surprising some people.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
All those teams are surprising people. So I think those
are Is that it those five?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, you said A and M, Auburn, Mississippi State, L
s U, Texas and Missouri.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So if if he if he goes four and two,
but you know, for of those teams are ranked, I
think he gets looked at for the job I think
we're going to have now. I know, I get I'm
lucky enough to be in some of the conversations that
the surface conversations with boosters. Of course, I'm not giving
him a million dollars, so I'll say that upfront. I'm
not part of that. You might I'm not not.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I don't want like a celebrity splash coach. I want
a coach who has either a one at different levels consistently, Like.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
The super Bowl is not good enough for you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I feel like he went what didn't he go in
though and take Dungee's team.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, so yeah, he still is a super Bowl winning
comes that's fine, but if he hasn't won most places
he's been, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Even hating on Gruden. It's great. I like John Gruden
just fine. I think he comes in though as like
a celebrity coach. People just want the name.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I would rather have someone that has won at multiple
levels or at smaller schools and has been a ten
eleven game winner in multiple places. I haven't liked James Franklin,
like the fact that people are going, you don't want Franklin.
He's washed, dude. What he completely turned the program around.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
He wins ten games every single year, and until this
year it was the losses were to two teams, Ohio
State in Michigan prior and then this year has been
an absolute debacle.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
The Oregon game one one, we're Oregon, totlely fine.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
They go for two, maybe the game's over and they
got beat by ucla road trip and then Northwestern last week.
So then, yeah, with that fan base and the expectation
of that fan base, and that's the that's the thing
sometimes about fan bases that can be a little bit frustrating.
Penn State hasn't won a national championship since nineteen eighty six,
like Joe Baturner Joe paturnaal in nineteen eighty six, that's
the last time they played in the national championship.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
The weird thing for us at Arkansas is all these
jobs are now opening up, which makes it even harder
to get the coach, right because everybody's trying to get
the coach. If it's going to be Florida, if it's
going to be Auburn, if it's going to be Virginia Tech,
if you could just go down the line for sure.
So yeah, I don't know. I kind of am uninvested emotionally,
but I would like to have somebody who's won multiple
(11:36):
places at a high level. So Jem's Franklin' school because
you wanted Vanderbilt want a Penn State Like, that's good,
It's gonna be James Franklin. Because we're not. We're gonna
end up with like a really offensive coordinator or defensive
coordinator from somewhere. I know what's gonna happen, but it'd
be nice to get Listen, whatever, it's just not gonna
end up well, but nothing ever does for me. I'm
the biggest freaking loser when it comes to happens. But
(11:58):
I have a theory about life that you know when
you're born a certain amount of good fortune that has
bestowed on you. And it's like Madden ratings, right, like
you could have an eighty seven throwing power, you could
have a ninety one speed, a forty one awareness. I
had my number, My MAD numbers were high. Professionally, I
was given grit and drive. Not a lot of talent,
(12:20):
but grit and drive, and I've had success because of that.
I met like an eleven on having teams that win,
like I got like a ninety six on success and
like professional but like eleven on having sports teams that win.
And that's just the way it came.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry for you. It's going
to break through at some point.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I don't know if it is at Arkansas, to be
honest with you, but it's not Cubbies.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But they wanted sixteen and that was amazing. I think
I told you that story was my first time ever
to go on the CMAS on freaking CBS, first thing
they ever invited me to be as one of the
people on the actual television show, and it was Game
seven of the World Series, and I told him I
can't do the show, Let's go. I stayed and watch
the Cubs in the world too, at home by myself.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
That is sports loyalty.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Because I was like, I've been waiting my whole life
for this.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Yeah, and this is so I got to be there
and present for it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I skipped the show and watched the Cubs win after
a rain delay, and it was it was worth it,
worth every every minute they won. By the way, that's
a good hat. Yeah, La, I'm not seen.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Lax was selling them.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I get off the plane. I was like, that looks
pretty good.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I'm in La.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Let's go as a good Dodger hat there. Yeah, Oh
that's right. I didn't know what you were saying. Yeah,
I know, I know Hispanic population says Dodgers with that accent.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Okay, let's go back and forth. You want to go first?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Sure? Yeah? Did you see that.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Cam Scataboo was offered ten thousand dollars worth of lap
dances at a gentleman's club in New York for I
guess his recent performance is pretty pretty impressive thing, and
it made me think I was I was trying to
think about was there any time that I was ever
offered something even remotely close to that?
Speaker 6 (13:52):
And I couldn't come up with anything.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But I do remember it was the day after a
game we were playing away.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
I get into my locker and.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
There's a FedEx package there, and the FedEx package, I
open it and there's all these condoms in there, and
then had this sheet with letterhead and it says, dear
mister Castle, h, you were sacked the most in the
NFL this past weekend. We thought you would need a
little extra protection, so here are And I forget what
(14:22):
type of it. Weren't even like a condum that you'd recognize,
like a trojan or it was like a random, brand
new condom thing. So we gave you, however, many condoms
to add that protection for you this week. That's funny,
and I started laughing out loud. I was like, well, one,
I didn't know I sacked the most this wee week,
but the fact that they sent it overnight mail, and
(14:43):
I was like, it's pretty good advertising.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
If there'd have been social media back then, cause I's like.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I think that that probably would have been because I
think Twitter was around, but I didn't have an account.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Extra protection, extra protection. That's cool. Speaking of Campataboo, like
he's that's that's just gonna be like in insanity, right.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
It's absurd the two of those combination together, between Scataboo
and his star power and then Jack and Dart and
the swag and Moxie those two have. They're going to
take over that city if they keep winning.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
See, but I.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Said, here's why I compare it to insanity. This is
not gonna last long. He's not built to last long. Scataboo, Yeah,
I don't know how he plays. He reminds me of
all Stock just beast, but he's not as big. I
don't think he's not as big as All Star was.
Like it's awesome to watch. I like watching Skataboo. I
think we like to see people that look different and
(15:33):
maybe have that don't have the advantage that other people. Listen,
he's not the fastest guy, he's not the biggest guy,
but he's a ball. Yeah, Like he just goes and
we like that. But I don't think you can play
at that pace and also at that aggression level and
not get hurt.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I think that's a superpower for him though, because, like
you said, it is a it's already a physical game,
but he's delivering the punishment rather than taking the punishment,
and I think that that is an advantage Scataboo until
you get hurt.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
That's every player that goes out, but every player is
not launching themselves like that. I'm not a Scataboy hater.
I like it. I like the Mariconta state. I just
I just see that as like a fireball is. It's
gonna be big and loud. It's gonna look awesome for
a second, but how long can it actually last?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I hope it lasts a long time because I enjoy
watching that guy play. Honestly, it's awesome to watch somebody
go out there.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You're making me feel like a hater because I'm not
a hater. I like Scataboo a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
No, you're worried that he's gonna get hurt, which I
understand your concern, because again, the way in which he
plays the game is very violent and you already take
a lot of hits, but he seeks out the hits, right,
He's going to go and try to say, oh, this.
If he's coming down instead of like getting out of bounds,
he's going to try.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
To ruin that guy's face.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Do you like that the Giants are winning for Dable?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
I do.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, I know Brian Davile. He's with me in
New England. He was also with me in Kansas City.
He's a guy that I've got a tremendous amount of
respect for. He's he's an emotional coach, he loves his players.
He's gonna get after him, but he's he's one of
those guys that I cheer for and root for because again,
it goes back, like we've talked about before, to relationships,
and there's people that you root for because of the
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time that you spent together. And he's always going to
be one of those guys for me.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Okay, I'll take over now and I'll go with Kansas
City and they're back. They were never gone.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
They're never gone.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I mean, they went through their ups and downs, and
they've had a lot of injuries, particularly at the wide
receiver position, but they were never gone. It was just
the panic button that everybody pushes. Early in the season.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
When Worthy wasn't there, you saw a limited offense.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
He comes back this week.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Right, well, Worthy has been I mean he's been back
for she Rice Rice comes back this week.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah. Now the Chiefs are starting to become and I
was listening to them talk during the game on Monday
night or Sunday night. There's too many games on Monday
nights now, but it's Sunday night, right. Yeah. By the way,
that's another thing. No more two games on Monday night.
It's one game on Monday night.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
I know.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You can't focus that hard on two games on a
Monday night. You're like, it's a Monday People have worked.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Where it was like Kancity feels better this year about
this team than they did last year in that team
because last year they were winning those games like crazy,
Like it was like a block kick against the Broncos.
Like every game Kancaity was like pulling a rabbit out
of their butt.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Not their hat, their butt. It's a whole different hole
to come out of.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, it's definitely different. It's sturdier, it is. It's a dirty.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Winds two games next Monday, by the way, of course,
there is you gotta be sa like.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I love it. I love football. I love the NFL
obviously worked for the NFL, but I just wish there
weren't two at the same time on a Monday night.
I need one to focus on. And also it's too
many fantasy players that have still yet to play. We
need that to happen. You need that to almost be
done to like one guy on each team Max. It's
when it's like two on one side one on the other, like,
that's annoying. But Kansas City they have week before that,
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a bye in the week before that, which is next week,
they do have a winnable game. Who they playing next week?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
So they got the Raiders this week's Raiders by the
divisional games Commanders, Oh, Commanders, Raiders, Commanders, Bills, Broncos.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Okay, so I really screwed that up. But I got
all the teams in there. Yeah, I just said all
the team. Yeah. I can't say. It's very tough schedule,
but I'm pretty excited for them.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
I'm excited for them too.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I mean because again, it's the success factor for them
that the everybody enjoys when they lose for some reason,
and it's just because they're winners and they consistently win
and they want to see somebody else.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
But at the end of the day, you still have
Patrick Mahomes. The league is better when the Chiefs are good.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Yeah, love them, hate them, I don't care. But it's
better when the Kansas City Chiefs are good.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
The league is better when big time quarterbacks have teams
that are good, right, because that is a fully quarterback league.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
It is always has been.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, Okay, back over to you.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I guess who's in a worse position here because you
look at the Ravens in the injuries that they've sustained,
and they have had nine starters, including Lamar and Humphreys
and all these different guys go out, but they're also
one to five. But then you look at the forty
nine ers and they just lost Fred Warner, and you
already have Bos out, and you already have Kittle out.
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And I don't even think Brandon Ayuk has played yet,
but they mentioned him purty. I was gonna say party,
even though mac Jones has done a very good job
stepping in for him. But that team's four and two.
But I don't know where Baltimore goes from here until
they get healthy. But it just looks like it's in
complete disarray because the way that the defense has played
this season.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I don't care whose quarterbacking. I don't know if they
can win any of those games.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I think Baltimore wins a division, do you really? I do.
I think they'll lose one more they have a bye.
I think that's when Lamar Jackson comes back, and I
think at that point they're one and six. Again, I
was so wrong on the Chiefs, just going by memory,
but so I.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Think they have want to go through their schedule.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I don't they play next week and then there's a
bye or maybe there's a bye next week. There's a
bye this week, okay, so then then he's back. Though,
then he's back, Okay, they're gonna rattle off like six
or seven, get back to five hundred and get in
as one of those lower seeds, and that's trouble. All
they got to do is get in.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
If they get in and they get healthy, then yes,
I agree. I picked them to win the Super Bowl
in my preseason polls.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I picked and everybody's talking about that. Still of course
they are. Everybody preseason like, look at this.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Guy and they had no idea.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
How look at one and five? Look at the division though?
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Yeah, so uh look I mean, who's got the best
it's the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Steelers are four and one, right, and they're only okay, right.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
But there's four and one is a great start for
the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And so but if I got to have a team
that's four to one in my conference, I wanted to
be a team like the Steelers that just left looked
only Okay, Cincinnati's got two wins, right, yep, yep, Baltimore's
got one win Cleveland did they even play? Are they
done Cleveland?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
One in five? Because they beat they beat green Bay
right in they Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
So my point is I don't think Pittsburgh is good
enough to run away with it, and I think that
that division is still a bit wide open as far
as if Lamar comes back and they're able to pill
off and get the five hundred, I think they can
still win the division.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It could be a crazy year in that sense, just
because of where the division is. And like you said,
if your top dog in the division is the Steelers,
which I think is a beatable Steelers team.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Then they but they're gonna have to get right sooner
than later.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
But you can push back.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
You think the Steelers are good, I do.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I think the Steelers are playing good football. I think
they've got really good defense. I'd say good defense. Maybe
not as elite as they have been in the past,
but a good defense that can keep them in ball games.
I think Aaron Rodgers playing at a really high level
and they're figuring it out, like they're able to run
the football, play action pass. DK Metcalf is an absolute
beast on the outside, so he provides that security blanket.
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But you don't see this dramatic fall off with Aaron
Rodgers game where you're saying.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Dude, he's so old.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Like some of these guys that stick around just too
long and their skills diminished to a point where they're
a shell of what they used to be.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Aaron Rodgers can still play at really high level.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
He might not have the same athleticism and that quick
twitch that he used to have, but when he throws
the ball, it still jumps out of his hand, and
he's been doing it for such a long time and
such a great competitor that he's a guy that I
trust that puts them in a position where he can
go out and manage the game and let that defense
eat a little bit too.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
All Right, I'll go with a guy that soon enough
it's going to be time for him to hang it out.
But I think he's got one more decent year in him.
And I think it's Joe Flacco. I'm here, I'm a
Flaco guy. I'm a huge Flaco guy, and he did.
I love the fact that he just got traded within
the division. Goes out pick and they say, hey, you're
playing on Sunday, new offense, and I don't know how
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much carry over there is. Nonetheless, it's a new personnel,
new lineman, new calls, and he just goes out and plays.
Plays at a high level. I would say semi competitive.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
See, yes, very competitive week.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
One with that team. He didn't have a full week
with them. I think the Bengals end up winning seven
or eight games this season, and that's a lot. Considering
that's a lot. It was going to be the two
they won with Burrow and that's it. I guess Jake
Riand does he get the credit for that win. He
didn't start the game.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
No, he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
He give the credit, right, that's the unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Part for him because most of the game, Yeah, Burrow
goes out in.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Like the first series, didn't you you didn't get credit
for the win. You came in after the first play, right.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
No, it was like the first, first or second series
of the game that Brady goes out, we had zero
points on the board, so when we ended up winning
the game, so I was part of scoring all those points.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
He got the win.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Justice for Castle hashtag justice for Castle.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Pretty sure he's not worried about it too much. Yeah, sorry, Bob,
it goes.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I think the Bengals end up winning seven or eight
games because Joe Burrow is going to be a steady
enough quarterback to not have Jamar Chase and T Higgins
constantly upset they're not getting the ball.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
And he's a dude.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
He understands the dynamics when you have two number one
wide receivers one and then one A with T Higgins
that if I just get them the ball because he's
so skilled at throwing it. He's a pure passer of
the football. So if they can protect him, he'll figure
it out with those two dudes on the outside and
be able to give them an opportunity to go make
plays on a consistent basis. And that's what they need
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right now. If they get some offensive production. I mean,
they're a team that could compete. Still, it's not like
this season's down the tube.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I mean it's pretty far down the tube all the
way in that division, in that division, that's the only
reason that season isn't fully down the tube. And I'm
giving Pittsburgh no respect. I know, I get it, I'm
giving them no respect.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
But everybody has a chance in the AFC North. Yes,
all right, yeah, all right. Can we make a rule
in college football?
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Right now? Your boy Dion Sanders, the Colorado.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Buffalo upset Iowa State, they're ranked twenty second.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
They rush the field. Why do people do that?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It shouldn't it be like one hundred rule that it's
got to be a top five opponent and you're such
an underdog that nobody believed you're a twenty point underdog.
I don't understand why people rush the field when you
beat the twenty second ranked team in the nation.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I think it's a great point here. My theory is
that the more rushing the field is seen, the more
people want to rush the field. So the more that
social media is showing, for example, the Virginia Florida State game,
that's the coolest rushing the field I think I've ever
seen Yeah, they were over the dude.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yes, literally stomped on that dude, is like right, gear.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Like as soon as the past was incomplete, they were
on the field. It was unbelievable. And I think you're
seeing more rushing the field, which then goes viral, which
then really creates more fans wanting to rush the field
and be inside of a viral moment. I agree with
you, you should only rush the field, especially now whenever your
administration has to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for
the second third offense. Same thing with rushing the court.
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But I think social media is actually creating it because
it looks so fun. It's happening more and more. We're
seeing it more and more, which then creates it more
and more. Because you're right, you beat the number twenty
two team. Hey, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Let's go be something to eat. Yeah, like that's what
it should be. Let's get some wings to win.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Well, that was the same thing this weekend.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We were sitting there and Catherine tappan our sideline performer reporter,
comes up to us on the sideline and say, hey,
they're telling us the security. You're telling us that they're
probably going to rush the field after this game. I'm like,
hold on, USC's fans are going to rush the field.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
We're beating the fifteenth rank Michigan.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
We've had bigger games in the history of this stadium
and also this this program. It's a big win for
us at this juncture of the season. But I was like,
there's no way. Thank god they did not rush the
Thank god they did, because they would have been my
number one. I would have been like Trojan fans, stay back,
bigger fish to Fry.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Talking about Callahan getting fired, Yeah, Tennessee, did you know
him at all?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
I didn't know him at all.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Actually, I've never been I've never played with him or
been around him. I've heard he's a great guy, but again,
don't know him really as a coach.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
One in five Yeah, this year, I just feel like
four in what.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Sixteen? Well?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, I mean we could do quickly. Do the maths.
So seventeen games last year and six games this year
and three wins.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Nineteen, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I think you have to give every coach two years.
What did you expect. There's a reason you had the
number one pick.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
And you fired the GM that you brought him in
with last year.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That's it's a perpetual cycle of continuing to lose when
there is no consistency, even if it's mid consistency, there's
it's just disaster. So they didn't even give him a
chance to have a mid team, and I think you
got to give him at least two This is not
college football where you can go out and buy players
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each year. Now, there are a contracts the NFL, but
those contracts are two, three, four, five years. They have
to stay within a contract. You can't just go and
reshape your team in the NFL. They were the number
one pick for a reason. I don't know the guy.
I'm not even a Titans fan, but I feel like
it kind of sucks that they keep firing people. It Sucksiel.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well, that's what it's the front office, right, It starts
with starts with ownership. You go from wizen Hunt to
Malarkey to Rabel, then get rid of Rabel and you
hire a Callahan, and it's just this continuous cycle. And
when you finally have a guy in Vrabel that consistently wins,
particularly early, and then has two down years, they're like, ah,
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we're done with him.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
But it's also the general manager position.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You've changed three general managers in the last three regimes,
and it's how do you find consistency there to where
you develop and have an understanding for what direction you're
trying to take your program? So now you're going to
fire him. And the other sad part about it is
you've got a first round draft pick and cam Ward
and yes it's one in five right now in season
you're trying to develop him to some degree, but now
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you're starting all over with him, and what direction are
they going to go there? He's going to have to
start all over next year with a new head coach,
a new offensive coordinator, and you're not putting him in
a position to be successful.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Who supposedly going to be the future of your franchise.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Jet's probably end up with that number one pick, but
there's a chance they don't. It could easily be the
Titans easily. What do you do if you're the time,
did you draft another quarterback because the front office was inconsistent?
Because you're blaming the play of a quarterback like cam
Ward on actually the inconsistency of the front office because
he had no chance right so, and then they wonder
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why don't we have fans. This is why you don't
have fans, right, you don't when?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And I think that that was probably part of the
reasoning at this point is the fan base is so
down on this team, particularly here in Tennessee with the
new stadium come in and all that stuff, that they've
got to try to create some excitement. So they're going
to go out and make another hire and hopefully get
a higher.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
That brings what is going to take that job?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Who knows, That's what I'm saying at this point, because
what's my leash, you know exactly, especially an experienced coach
that's been around the league and understands it. If you
don't have a loyalty to your coach or give him
some time to develop a roster, develop a team and
what he vision envisions it to be, it's gonna be
hard pressing you go out to get any top name guy.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Seahawks are good too, by the way.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Seahawks are awesome, boy, Sammy Darnold ripping it around.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Patriots are good too. Yeah you want to stay on
the Patriots?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah? Man, Watching Drake May it's just a thing of beauty.
He just looks so calm, comfortable, poised. I think McDaniel's
has really got him dialed into that offense, and they
have no running game right now.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
And he's still just slinging it.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Man.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
It's fun to watch now.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
He's really glazing on. You should know that Kevin's weren't
a Patriots had, like he's a Patriots guy.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
Oh yeah, and they're coming to town this weekend, boys.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
But you yeah, they're playing the Titans. Yeah, maybe that's
why they like.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
He's gonna be in by fifty if he has a
chance to for both of them because they fired him.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, and plus maybe they fired Brian o'callhan early because
they're like, well, this is gonna be embarrassment even worse
next weekend that we fired Rable for this this guy
and he's gonna put potentially fifty on them.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Revenge James are fun if they're really were they a
thing to you?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
You know, it's one of those things if somebody fires
you or let you go, or you're playing your old
team that it maybe didn't in the way that you
wanted to. Of course, you feel that as a human,
as a player, as a competitor, you want to go
out and quite frankly be there there's no doubt about it.
But you sometimes can't let that emotions get in the
way of actually going out and executing the way you
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need to execute, because there are emotions that come with
that that you have to somehow put a side and
just go out and execute the game plans.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Particularly as a player as a coach.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You know, I'm sure that there's a vendette out to
come back here and say.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
The three Revenge of games. So far, in my mind,
I'm gonna go out and put the game coming up
this weekend because I think that Rabel's going to want
to hang half a hundred on them. At number two,
I'm going to put the Micah Parsons versus the Cowboys
game earlier this year, which didn't really turn out well
for Michael Parsons. This was a tie.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Yeah, yeah, it was a tie.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Nobody won, Yeah, nobody want. But at number one, I'm
going to put a game from this past week. Rico Daddle,
Oh my god, I ran it for another two hundred
yards against the Cowboy. He ran two hundred last week,
but this was an angry two hundred against the Cowboy,
and he was.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Selling those tickets.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
He was talking smack on social media and then to
go and back it up the way they did what
He rushed for one hundred and seventy and had another
get over. Yeah, he had over two hundred yards total offense,
scored a few touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
That kid's a dog. And also he's got a really
cool piercing in his face. Where's his piercing right in
his cheek?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Right here? I think? Yeah, See, I don't mess with
people that have piercings in their face.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Did you ever have an ear ring?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I lost a bet one time in high school on
my left ear, and I forget what the bet was.
So I had to go get this thing pierce and
I had it piers for I think it was supposed
to be for a week. I had piers for two
days and I went in and my football coach someb me.
He says, guess what the hell is in your ear?
Say coach, I asked the bet? He said, take that
out right now. I said, yes, sir, so I had
an earing yeah, last pretty long. Did you ever have earrings?
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I could see you as a nose guy.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
No, I had a tongue piercing. Oh that would be
all No, I didn't you guys tongue. Yeah, Bobby, have
a list of day I thought about and in that
instant as I was coming up with that joke, just
somehow am I works? I thought what would be funnier
a tongue piercing or a belly button piercing? And I
thought what would be more the more effeminate one that
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you guys would be like, oh haha, And I went
with tongue over belly button. Would belly button have been funnier?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
No, the tongue or a nipple ring? Well, that would
be pretty.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Nipple rings though, here's the thing. Punk guys wear them
and they look cool.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
I don't know about that, like.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Like punk rock guys, like like the like the Ramones
that all those guys with like nipple rings. You don't
think that.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I just never looked at it as like a fashion cool.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I wouldn't there, But I like, I'm like those others
are punk. Don't put a hole in anything. Seriously, that's
a true statement, yeah, what I'm saying. Last question for
both of us, what team impressed you most this week?
Of the entire NFL slate of action? Who is the
most impressive team to you? To me, especially from a
standpoint of a win.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
It was the Falcons because the Falcons are playing in
the Buffalo Bills and when you look at the Falcons
just a few weeks ago getting just dominated, blown out
thirty seven to nothing against Carolina, and you go, where's
this going to go? And now they've rolled out I
think two straight, one against Washington, one against the Bills
last night, and really they had the Bills in check,
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that offense in check for the entirety of the night,
and offensively, Jean Robinson, My goodness, is that kid as superstar.
He's an absolute superstar. So just watching the rebound effect
from that early season loss and to get blown out
that way and to come back get it together and
the defense is playing better. Michael Pennox's coming along, Drake
London's the stud I mean, I just I was impressed
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with that win at home last night.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I'm going to go back to Tampa because they just
keep proving that they should stay in the conversation of
elite teams, because I think we keep waiting for them
to prove that they're just amid the pretty good team, right,
But they don't. No, they don't.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
But then you also look at the injuries that they
have everybody's hurt. A Mecca booka Mike Evans. You go
down the line, I think they're just starting. Four wide
receivers were out and.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I got it. I got seven snaps. I don't know
if you guys saw me. I was in the game.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I'm telling you, they might might give you a call.
They might give you a call.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
They were out of everybody, but Baker Mayfield still puts
on his Superman cape and goes out and plays like
Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That run that he had was absurd.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
That's a top ten I mean, that's a top play
of the week any week of the season.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
It was just he ran like third and fourteen, right,
something like that to get that first down.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Right, He broke, broke through two sacks, ran through another
person's face, juke somebody out, and then ran through somebody
to get the first down. And he just hopped up
and was like, hmm. So I'll tell you the way
he's playing. I think their defense is obviously a really
good defense under balls, and so they're proving good teams
prove that they can win regardless of the circumstance of personnel,
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and if they can find way when they're unhealthy to
win and not have an excuse.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
That's that means a lot in this league.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
And then as they get healthy, as they move forward,
I mean, that's a dangerous offense unit.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
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every snap is loaded with opportunity. I lost so much
this week, did you?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Well you thousand?
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Well you bet Arkansas and the Cubbies.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
So yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, I bet because you're an emotional involved you bet
more on those games.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I need to say no more, and I'm not. I
don't chase like I bet for entertainment. It's fun for me,
like it gives me. And if I'm watching two teams
I don't care about. I don't have any fantasy players.
You know. I'll do a first touch Yeah, I'll do
it anytime touchdown. I couldn't hit a single bet.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Not one.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Is this one of those days? It's one of those weekends.
But I'm ready. I'm ready to bounce back. Now. Three
biggest games coming up this week, the Eagles at the Vikings.
Eagles are two and a half point favorites. Eagles did
not win. They gotta be about the Giants.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, they got to beat handily by the Giants.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
What are your thoughts on that game?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
You know, when you watch the game, I thought at
some point the Eagles were going to start making their way,
but then the Giants just kept making plays and plays
and plays and it didn't look like the Eagles, right
And I that's the part about the Eagles it's a
little bit frustrating to watch right now, is what is
their identity because Sakuon Barkley hasn't got going yet. The
past game has been mediocre, to say the least. Aj
(38:53):
Brown is still not really heavily involved. They it doesn't
look like the same identity that they had last year
where they could just pound people and run through people's
face and then when they wanted to throw, they can
throw it will. I think they still have the ability
to do so, but it's still young this season where
they haven't figured out who they are. And so when
I look at that right there, I'm gonna go Vikings
(39:14):
at home.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
I'm gonna go with the Vikings. Who started a quarterback
for the Vikings. It doesn't matter they got Kevin O'Connell
calling plays dogs.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Right, Okay, fair enough, But I guess Sirianni and O'Connell
have been guests on our show, haven't they.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Yeah? They sure have. Sorry, sorry Nick.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
But remember Siriani last year fire them boo boo, like
two years ago. It was last year too. Theydn't won
the Super they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
Yeah last year. Yeah, they were like two and two.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Really, he's malting with fans.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, who's starting a quarterback for the Vikings?
Speaker 8 (39:45):
It still doesn't say sure?
Speaker 6 (39:47):
I mean, what did J. J. McCarthy do to himself?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I think they's been out for rebuild a whole bionic
leg from what I heard three four weeks.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I think they're just buying time here. He did have
a baby that you don't get paternity to leave you.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I'm sorry, I'm going to I think the Eagles are
bouncing back. Eagles minus two and a half.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
McCart they did practice for the first.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Time, okay, but they're not saying anything about it.
Speaker 8 (40:09):
They're not saying if he's going to play or not.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
All right, I'm going to Eagles minus two and a half.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
You're going Vikings I'm gonna go Vikings at home.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
This second game, This one I'm so interested in. It's
the Colts at the Chargers. Ooh, that's a good game.
That may be the game of the week. There's like
the Bucks and Lions, to which i'mnna talk about in
a second, but everybodys hurt on the Lions, so I
think Bucks, excuse me, Colts and Chargers. Man, I kind
of love that game.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I too because the Chargers, you know, after the hot start,
they've really come back down to earth a little bit
and they had to literally scramble to get that thing
back together against the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
And it was late game heroics by Justin.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Herbert that Herbert passed that late game heroic where they
had him in a sack McConkie.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Awesome, what a play, incredible play. And he takes a
lot of hits, dude, I mean it was crazy. I
saw some kind of stat that he's been hit more
than any quarterback up to this point in his career,
just taking on hits. And he's a big target, but
he's elusive of enough at his size. He's a special player.
So they haven't been playing as we but then you've
got the colts, man, they can just continue to get
(41:09):
it done somehow, some way. Danny Dimes is playing off
the charts. It's going to be a really good game.
The Taylor is awesome, dude, he's awesome. I remember he's
always been really good. And then the contract and should
they resign him?
Speaker 3 (41:22):
But two years ago when he held out, and it's
like he's a running back and he's getting on up
there in age. Soon enough, he'll be up there in it. Man,
he's awesome. He's every freaking dollars.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
He's an absolute study.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And the charge is right Omarion Hampton's out, he's out.
And then also was it the wide receiver Quinton He
didn't play right, he didn't play either. So that's another factor,
if it, because injuries do matter in this league, believe
it or not, because you can't replace certain guys. And oh,
Mary Hampton is one of the bright running back, bright
(41:54):
young running backs in this league. And when you don't
have him back there and they already lost in Augie
Harris for the season, I mean they're thin at running back.
And you know Harbaugh and the Chargers in general, their
dna to run the ball, to set up the pass.
But if you can't run the ball effectively and stay
ahead on down distance and have to rely on throwing, well,
it becomes a little bit more difficult.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
Are you picking? I'm gonna go with the Colts. Let's
do it. Let's go Colts, let's go Danny Dimes.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
I want the Colts to win. I think the Chargers
win this one. Remember Natron means, yeah, that's what they
need to call back. Get him in there. Start a
jacket time. You wouldn't get a catch. Yeah, yeah, you
can get it started. Start a starter jacket time. Sure, Sure,
Bucks and Lions. On Monday Night, Lions are a four
and a half point favorite. The Lions are missing like
five guys on defense. Follwys that the Lions were? They
(42:43):
were they were getting two and a half points versus
the Chiefs. Everybody was like, that's crazy. How are the
Lions the underdog? Well, we see why, because they didn't
have any defense. Lions are a four and a half
point favorite to the Bucks. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take
the Lions.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Really I am.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I mean because if you go back and watch the
game and like diagnose it from Monday night at the
end of the day. There are plays to be had.
I'm on saying Brown dropped that fourth down. Yeah, there
was another one that would have led to points. Like,
there's multiple scenarios, and there was a touchdown pass I
got called back because of a penalty. There's multiple scenarios
where that outlook of that game could have changed dramatically
(43:19):
if one of those players are made and they had
about three different ones. I don't think that that is
what the Lions have is really who they are as
a team.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
I think they're going to bunce back.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
All I hear is the Baker hater. I don't know
about you, guys.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
He goes, I'm the biggest.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Monologue about Baker. Baker, I'm taking the Lions.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
I think it's going to catch up to him at
some point.
Speaker 8 (43:39):
How about that they're missing a lot of guys, yeah,
bucks offense.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Oh, they both you know what they're both missing. You're right,
it's a lot of guys gone on offense and a
lot of guys gone on defense for the Lions.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
The backups versus the backups, and then the bait.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
It's the ones versus the ones, and the twos versus
the twos.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
Bet on Baker, but I'm going with the Lions.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Because both because the offense of the Bucks are basically
the twos, the defensive Lions are basically the twos.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
It's kind of like you're when we were talking about
this earlier, you got to pick one week where your
starters can't play.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
This is it.
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Speaker 3 (45:05):
Okay, that is it for this episode. We're going to
do what we did last week, and so if you
listen to this one first, in the next episode, we
are going to have one of Matt's friends super Bowl champion,
one of the best kickers of that generation, right Ryan
suck out?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Hell?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yea, I went. I don't think that's crazy to say.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
I don't think it's crazy to say.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
I have no bias at all about it.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, if you win a Super Bowl and you play
fourteen years as a place kicker, you're you're you're doing
something right.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
What do you call it? Whenever? This is the debate
I've had amongst my friends. When you are on the field,
I don't want to I just don't want to feed
you the words. But when you're on a field and
you can kick a field goal from wherever you are,
what is that called you are in field?
Speaker 6 (45:48):
Goal range.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Thank you, Because these goobers call it field goal position.
I'm like, what is.
Speaker 6 (45:55):
Film and Dummer?
Speaker 3 (45:58):
They're in field goal position? Kevin said, he goes, you're
in a field goal position, and I'm like, I feel
like you're like a European that's learning football.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
Are you talking about real soccer over in yours already?
Speaker 8 (46:10):
I was like, I guess, yeah, it doesn't sound right.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
I don't know why I say it like that. Yeah,
so Ryan stuck up. It's a great interview. We talked
about him playing with Tom Brady. We talk about him
playing in high school. He never really played his soccer player.
It's a great interview. Uh so we'll end this episode
here now, I'm Bobby Bones, it's Matt Castle. That's kick
off Kevin our mister field goal position, and that's Brandon Ray.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
And we've had lots to say. All right, by it, Buddy,
lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is
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