Lots to Say: Fmr NFL HC/Interim Stanford HC Frank Reich

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lost, just said.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
We got lost? Just say.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
What backer here?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
And we hope you say because we got lost.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Just say, yeah, we got lost?

Speaker 5 (00:28):
Just said.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Here's Bobby in that. And in the last thirty minutes
before the show started, Matt as saying, what's new pussy
Cat and Sugar Sugar? How you get so fly? It's
it's beautiful eclectic.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
It's so eclectic. I think it's because my kids are
home now for summer and they're.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Uh, listen to Tom Jones or what well, that's kind
of that's kind of kids.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
All these different songs are coming in my head and
I've I've got so many different genres, and then I
don't know where the What's New pussy Cat Tom Jones
came into I actually sometimes it was weird. It's a
weird was like Tom Jones, Huh. I'll wake up sometimes
in Marion and go, what's new pussy Cat? Whoa?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Whoa?

Speaker 5 (01:13):
My wife's like, what are you singing that song? For? It?
So so weird? So out there?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Did you ever sing?

Speaker 5 (01:20):
No? Hell, I've got the worst voice.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Ever did you think I was going to continue asking
something else in that question?

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Did you okay? Have you ever sang publicly? Or did
you in like sixth grade any any sort of.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Oh yeah, I was Aladdin, like fourth grade bro. I
was talking and it was one of those with like
the little sweater vest or whatever they had for that
was appropriate, but it looked like a Halloween costume with
the little hat on. I mean, magic carpet ride. Oh
yeahd magic.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
Carp right, that's stepping a wolf.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
There's no way come with me, little girl. Oh the
magic carpet. Hey, little Mac Castle, that's the wrong show Aladdin.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
They get on the carpet whatever it is. Yes, I
can show you the word. Yeah yeah, so I did.
And it was a little bit nerve wracking. I mean
it was my first real theatrical deal. Public school. Didn't
know what I was doing, but we did have a
few good rehearsals, and I felt pretty confident when I
ran out there in that little Aladdin outfit.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I feel like Castle shows up to do Aladdin. That
starts in I gotta d.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
V changed the lyrics.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
That's that's more like seventies like good, that's classic rock.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Were you ever in theater?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did Grease. Who were you, Danny Zuko,
John Tibolto, of course you were, Yeah, yeah, I love
and had me a blast is awesome. I did a
little Shop of Horrors. Ooh okay, yeah, and I you
said that right there. You may not can see it
behind the cubs jacket down on the table. That is
a number one album, number one comedy music album Billboard.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Dude, So you you are.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
That's my that's my planque.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
So you're in theater. We're talking about potential Broadway.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
No, we're not Broadway as in Nashville.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Where the bars are? That's the only bar?

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Okay here, you get down.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, mine was very much personality driven. I'm about a
C plus singer.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
But you're an A plus performer.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
I'm an A plus person oh with a plus personality.
The Yeah, so I enjoy singing for comedy purposes and
our whole our whole album down there, number one album.
I didn't say it. Ragging Idiots is our comedy duo.
Uh is a comedy.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Record, and you guys do rage. By the way, the show,
it's we.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Raised so hard. We raise money for charity. That's how hard,
we rage.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
No, I mean you're out there. It was a full
two and a half hours of unbelievable entertainment and you
are the headliner, raging, raging, just ranging with that red guitar,
just looking so good.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Thank you. Yeah, sugar, sugar, you get so fa. Okay,
So here's what I have. We're gonna call this fan court,
and I've got ten of these. We may have the
same opinion and may have different opinions, but we'll go first.
Number one, Can you boo your own team when you're
losing one?

Speaker 5 (03:51):
And they do all the time? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
But what is it? Okay too? You're the you get
to be the judge and tell people yes or no.
If you're talking to do you allow the home team
if you're the judge to boo their own team when losing?

Speaker 5 (04:05):
How bad are we losing?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
That means yes, I mean you answers.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yet that's the difference I mean in my politically correct statement.
Always when I played, if they ever asked if we
got booed, it was always like, look, they pay their money,
they can come out and do whatever. That. We are
in an entertainment source, right, But when you're playing and
you're in the second series of the game and it
doesn't go well and you haven't got a first down yet,
and you're getting booed as you're coming off.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
It pisses you off.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
I'm not gonna lie. You're at home, you're.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Here, oh the whole stadium.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
And there's a few that start early and they want
to be negative, and it's just like, come on, are
you serious? Right now? We're in the second series of
the game. Now, not everybody's is that like intense about
it in terms of the fan base, but there are
certain fan bases that'll get after you from the jump.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Who booed the hardest home team of all the teams
you played.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
It didn't have to be you that was getting booed,
But what.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Right, Kansas City? Kansas City. We had a few games
stretched there where they could get after you, and it
would be it would be early and often unless you
had some success. Now, you could change the course of
how they were reacting based on a good series here
or there. But if you started the game slow and
dinned to get off to a good start, and if
you were already struggling, they were on you quick.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Now.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Eagles, Eagles will boo the hell out of you. There's
Buffalo's booed. I was in New England. This was a
shocker to me. We were undefeated. I'm not kidding you.
It was a season that we went undefeated during the
rare season. We're playing Detroit and it was halftime and
it was like a tied football game and we'd blown
out every opponent that year. We're coming off the field
at halftime and it was a tie ball game. They're booing,

(05:46):
and I was like, we're undefeated, Like we were playing
the Detroit We're going to figure out a way to
come back and win the game, which we did. But
at the same time, I couldn't believe that was the
one that was a shocker to me.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I'm okay with fans booing the home team because we
have now defined the NFL as an entertainment product.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
It is. That's that's what it is.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
You buet wrestling.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
You don't really bow at grease though, Like if I
sucked no, one really booed.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
No, because you're there to see theater.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Yeah, I guess so, But I'm okay with the booing.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
At times, the booing I won't say inspires a person,
but you do get to for example, Sirianni last year,
first three or four get he was getting booed hard.
He was he was John with the fans. They were
going after him so hard, and so that makes that
year even more memorable because I remember the booing and going,
oh boy, he's even gonna last, and then he wins.

(06:37):
The whole freaking thing.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
That's a crazy part about sports is from one week
to the next, you could be the goat or the
hero and and they or they'll hate you, right, they
can completely hate you, but you come out and put
together a great performance. Then all of a sudden they
come back together and they respect you and it's the
pride of the organization and you're the man, just like Sirianni.

(06:59):
I mean, the year before last, they're talking about firing
him at the end of the season because they went
on that skit at the end of the year and
I was like, this guy just went to the super
Bowl the year before. It's just a crazy whole industry
in which we work in.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Next up wearing the jersey of a team that's not
playing the game you're at and I'll go first. Unless
you're in Europe and you see this a lot of
those games where it's like Jacksonville versus insert whatever team, right,
and it's in London, And I don't mind if they're
wearing every NFL jersey because they don't get the NFL
that often they do. They just don't even know what's

(07:35):
going on, right, they have every jersey on that they're
just like the NFL's here. Let's just find an NFL
jersey to wear, and God love them. That's great. But
if you're at like Cubs and Cardinals and you show
up in a Pirates jersey, or if you're at like
Colts and Titans and you decide to show up in
a Falcons jersey.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
You're just being a douchebagg Well.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
I'd say there's one reason why I'd say you could
accept it, okay, and that's is if that Falcons jersey
that you're wearing is currently a player on the team.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
That's fair and that makes sense. But there is a relation.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
He's a fan of that player, Okay, and but that's it.
I co sign that. But it's like, you don't have
to prove your fandom that you're not a fan of
either one of these teams, right, because it's basically what
you're saying.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
And don't be cheap. Just go get the new jersey
if you really like that. If you like that player,
just go get the news.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
How about leaving the game only to be traffic.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Sorry, I've done it before. Like I've taken the kids
to a few games and I'm like, this game looks
like it's over. I can beat the traffic. Guys. Hey,
they're probably gonna take a knee here in a series.
You're gonna run out the clock. It's not entertaining. You're young,
You're not gonna remember this. Jump on. I mean, I'm
not gonna lie. I took the boys to the national
championship game Ohio State Notre Dame this year. When Ohio

(08:46):
State took that lead by what twenty eight points and
it was into the third, I was like, this game
is over, and I was questioning, questioning leaving around mid
midway through the third. Then Notre Dame scored and we
stayed for the rest of the game. But at the
end of the day, if I can be traffic, I'll go.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I think it's okay to leave to beat traffic if
a your team is getting crushed, true or be Neither
of those teams are really your team and it's not
even really a game, right again, there's a crushing involved
and there's no relationship if you're leaving and your team
is winning, and it's like stay, yeah, be there for

(09:29):
them when they come back on the fields college, you know,
they come sing the fight song, it's a like stay
there for them.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
But no, no, sometimes I just want to leave.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
It's not about traffic if I'm just we're just getting
just hornswoggled or even know what that word means, but
that's what it feels like sometimes being then.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
How many times have you been to a game at
where the team is getting crushed at a home game
and it's early fourth quarter and they're just emptying out.
That's a bad feeling for all to you, especially when
you're watching your entire crowd leave. They've all given up there,
like you suck today.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
I never thought about that so because I've never been
in that position, because I don't play ball at the
level you did, so you would see that, Oh yeah,
I see your own fans walking out and be like, oh.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
It's been a bad at the office. My bad, guys,
We'll do better next time.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Come back having two favorite teams and I'll go first this,
you don't have a favorite team.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
If you have two favorite.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Teams different sports, I'd say you could have different sports
for sure.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
But if you're an NFL fan, you're like, I'm a
massive Vikings fan and I'm a massive Broncos fan. They're
my two favorite teams because here's this reason and here's
that reason. If you have two, it's like quarterbacks. If
you have two, you don't have one.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
I agree with that whole hardly. Yeah, if you don't
have if you have two teams that you root for,
then you don't have one.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
You just said that.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
You just said that you can like one, but you
gotta love the other and you gotta rep them hard.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah. There. If you have a favorite team, it's got
to be your favorite team, right. Favorite means I have
selected one to rise above the rest.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
And I'm going to follow you in the off season.
You ce sign I'm committed to the cause.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
How about switching teams because either of your team's sucks
for a long period of time or you move cities.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
You're up. I'm all for that. If your team sucks
for a long period of time, it is hard to
kind of jump back on that bandwagon. Year in year
out when like there's no hope for the organization. We're
not going anywhere. I want to be with a winner
at some point and not just have to ride this
wave of misery.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
See, I lost all the respect I had for your
yes good.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
If you leave your team when times are bad, you
don't deserve to have good times. And I say this
as someone who's life has spent I've spent a whole
life loving teams that do not win.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
I was gonna say, you're an Arkansas fan, right, I mean,
we don't have to go there first, but sure.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
I mean it's pretty evident it is.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, Like we haven't won a national championship since nineteen
sixty four, before anybody in this room was even close
to being born. In basketball, it's like our one championship
major sports, and we have it on everything and it's
like ninety four and that's starting to be so far away.
So it sucks, and our football team is not going
to get any better anytime soon. I'm a massive Chicago

(12:11):
Cubs fan. Until twenty sixteen, it was nothing right, nothing
but being a loser. So I've had losing teams my
whole life, so I've stood with them and it sucks,
and it just sucks, but I will never leave. I
will never have another team.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
But it's kind of like the Patriots fans that I
used to meet for the longest period of time. They
were awful and it was at the old Stadium, and
they tell these war stories about going and sitting up
in the bleachers that have no backs on it and
getting there earlier. But they're dedicated, and then all of
a sudden they come into that Brady air and just
for twenty years pure domination, and now they're back to

(12:50):
a certain situation now. But to hear the people that
are so loyal that as you're saying that we'll fight
through all the bad years just for the hope that
you turn it around, and then when it does happen,
it's got to be pretty fulfilling if you think about
it as a fan.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I don't know what's never happened. Well, I guess the
Cubs of twenty sixteen happened.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
That happened.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
That happened, that was awesome.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, And I mean I told this story, but it
was it was when my TV career had just started
in the CMAS. I believe we're on CBS, and it
was the first year that the CMAS had invited me
to come and present an award, which is a big
deal because of the National Award show. And it was
also Game seven of the World Series, and I said
no to presenting the CMAS and stayed home.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Did you really, Yeah, what's dedication?

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Watched the Cubs and Indians. We went to Game two
and lost at Wrigley, and then came home. They were like, hey,
we want you to present massive for my career because
I'd never been offered that before.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
But I thought, what's more important?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
And I stayed home and watched Game seven and then
it got rein delayed, And yeah, it was a tough decision,
except it Wasn't it hurt to make the decision, Except
it wasn't hard to make.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Are you superstitious as a fan watching the game, Like
you have to be in the same spot or things
aren't going well, you got to move your spot, or
you got to drink with your left hand and say
you're right hand, whatever it might be. Because I know people,
some of my friends, that if they're watching a game
and they're intensely into what's going on, if their teams struggling,

(14:17):
they have to get up and move or move a
chair or do something. They're super superstitious about that.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
So I don't believe in superstition, but maybe it's true.
So yes, so I do it. I don't believe it
affects anything, but just in case it does, I maintain
if things are going well, I change if things are
not going well.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
That's called superstis.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
But listen, No, no, I don't believe in it, but
but just in case, I do have it because I've
been wrong about any things before. So am I superstitious?

Speaker 5 (14:47):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
But do I do superstitious things, absolutely, just in case.
I have a pair of shoes that I had made
a few years ago and going into this past weekend
when Arkansas Softball was playing in the Super Regional.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
I only wear these shoes at specific times.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
They were thirteen and two winning percentage of a eight
hundred when I wear these shoes, but I have some
rules behind them. I can never wear them two games
in a row. I have to announce when I'm wearing them.
And I did, and I got on social media's that
I'm wearing the shoes. There were thirteen and two and
we had lost the first game. I didn't have the
shoes on for the first game, so I wore them
for the second game. We went four zero, shut out.

(15:23):
My rule is you can't wear them two games in
a row. I didn't wear them.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
I cannot believe you. Are you serious? I just break
your trend.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
They're fourteen and two, and you're not going to roll
the dice and see, hey, it's been a day off,
a night off.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
We're going to go ahead.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's always been my rule. I can't do two in
a row because and whats on me from doing three?
Then eventually they're going to lose just because it's a
numbers you're wearing them just for that team. But again,
we're talking about superstitions, and I'm like, I'm not superstitious,
but these shoes are fourteen and two. I did not
wear them for Game three that Arkansas all lost and
it was the biggest game of the year, But they
didn't lose because of my shoes.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, that's the other thing that superstition sometimes gets you
into that you believe your shoes has any impact whatsoever
on the game.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
They're fourteen and two. What do you want to say?
That's a pretty great winning.

Speaker 7 (16:05):
I'm pretty disappointed though I didn't wear them.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
We should make sure that he wears a next elimination game.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
But I'm true to myself. I'm all true at myself.
There's no wearing them two games.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
You have your principles.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, did you ever have anything lucky to wear?

Speaker 5 (16:20):
No? I was never one of those guys that wore
anything specifically or put a saying on the wristband or
had to do my EyeBlack a certain way. I just
kind of was old school. Throw on the socks, throw
on the pants, put my jersey on this role.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
What about a specific regimen regimen, Yes.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
I'd go. My warm up routine was pretty specific in
terms of get down on the field early, going through
my stretch work, some certain type of red zone throws
that I wanted to throw at the wide receivers. Then
from there go in, do a little bit more stretch
or get stretched by one of the trainers, and then
get taped right after that, and then go start my

(17:00):
process of getting totally locked in.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
But what if you didn't go in that exact order
that you'd always gone.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
Didn't really bug me that much. It didn't know. It
wasn't like, oh man, I'm really hoping you'd walk into
that one. Yeah, No, they didn't really bug me that much.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Last one here, how about this cheering for a division
rival in the playoffs because quote, they're representing your division.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yeah, I don't believe in that.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I kind of hate that in the NFL. Like if
I'm a Cowboys fan, I don't want the Eagles to.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Win, right, if they're in your division, you're you're absolutely
your biggest rival, just because they represent your conference.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
And do they really represent the conference. It's different in
college football because they do represent a conference, a legitimate
conference where there are decisions made based on the power
of the conference years afterward.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Right.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
I think in bowl games, I usually root for the.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
SEC because I want that to positively impact my school.
But it doesn't work like that in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
No, we're all we all represent the NFL.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, at the day, you represent yourself.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Every team wants to beat the other team and not
see them move forward, even though they're from your same
conference or wherever it might be.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I think I hate them worse because they're in my
NFL division one hundred percent from the Cowboys. I hate
the Frankin Giants, I hate the Commanders and I hate
the Eagles right now.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
There might be certain circumstances where you're cheering for a
particular coach that was with you or a player that
is a friend of yours. And I've done that before,
where you know, it's pretty tight in terms of the
relationships that you have. So I might be cheering more
for that guy to have success moving forward because he's
has that opportunity. But overall is an organization and a team.

(18:41):
I'm not cheering for another organization team to go out
and win.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Coming up next, coach Frank Wright, who played for the
Buffalo Bills, was the backup for all four of the
Super Bowl losses.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Isn't that wild?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Why did they lost for in row? Just just period
in four straight straight?

Speaker 5 (18:56):
And that's the second boom Boom Boom also has.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
The greatest comeback, well, I guess second greatest comeback now
in NFL.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
History, second greatest because Minnesota beat the Indianapolis cole and
that comeback and was it twenty two or something like that,
like three years ago? Right, they were losing like yeah,
thirty three to three or something, and I'm sitting there, going,
there's no way they can come back from this, and
that was. That was wild.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
He was a backup though for the Bills, in for
Jim Kelly and came back and beat the Oilers. I
remember watching it as kid. I turned the game off.
It was thirty one points and happened to turn it
back on because I was ready for the next game
and saw the end. It wasn't like. It wasn't like.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Now you can get an alert that.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
That's one of those situations. It's a backup quarterback. You
always think about going in in those big type moments.
But that was was that the AFC Championship.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Probably ornetheless one.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
It's a playoff game. Jim Kelly, Yeah, franchise guy goes out.
You're getting an opportunity and you go in. You look
at the scoreboard and you go, oh man, this is awesome.
I get to come in and thirty one points down,
but then to go out and actually do it. What
a legend.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
What a legend.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
He So he's the coach at Stanford this year.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Andrew Luck asked him to come be the coach, but
he's I'm only going to coach their one year because
they didn't want to hire anybody that with the limited
amount of time they had they feel like they felt
like they couldn't get the right coach for that, so
he called Frank Craik, so he coached the team for
one year. Frank Craik said, yes, one year. We'll talk
to him about that. Coming up next, we're going to

(20:36):
talk now with head coach Frank Wright, head coach of
the Stanford Cardinals.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Stanford Cardinals, Stanford Cardinals. But this tree, they got a tree.
I never understood that.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
But you're a California guy. I thought you would, you know,
I mean, walk me into it a little bit.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
If I still I'm a California guy and still don't
understand it. Yeah, their mascot is a tree. But they're
the Cardinals. But they're the Cardinals. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Led the Buffalo Bills to the largest comeback in NFL
history during the ninety two to ninety three playoffs, becoming
a thirty two point depsit against the Oilers. Was the
oc for the Eagles during their Super Bowl victory, not
this year, but the last time. Recently appointed as the
interim head coach for Stanford University's football program for the
twenty twenty five season. Here he is head coach Frank Wright. Hey, coach,

(21:20):
we really appreciate the time.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Hey, I'm it's my privilege, So thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Well, Matt was saying a minute ago that he came
and worked out for you in Detroit. After Detroit?

Speaker 5 (21:31):
What was it after Detroit for the Colts? After Andred
he retired, And so I came in with the group
I think as Brandon Weed and Brocossweiler myself. Obviously I
didn't do enough in that film room to influence you
to sign me. But at the same time we sat
that meeting room together and he was drilling me on
some of the There was a double mug look what
are you doing against this? Look? And it was great.

(21:52):
We got to sit there talkball. It was It was
a fun experience for me. But obviously they went a
different direction.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, why didn't you pick them, coach? Why didn't you
pick all Castle over here?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (22:02):
That was the GM's decision, not the head coaches. There
you go, Oh, I'm just kidding. Hey, no, Hey, in
all seriousness, you know, Matt is one of those guys who,
even though we never really crossed paths for any length
of time here or there, but as a as a
fellow quarterback, a guy who really followed Matt's career, and

(22:22):
then I coached obviously with Sirianni. And when I was
coaching with Sirianna, he used to talk about Matt all
the time and say, you know how great not only
have a player, but teammate in person. So I've always
had a ton of respect for you, Matt.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Thanks coach. I appreciate it. I mean, you've been on
an incredible journey. You're in the NFL forever and now
you're making this jump to college football. Talk to me
about what were some of the factors that were the
decision to go back to college.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
It was really about two things.

Speaker 8 (22:53):
It was about Andrew Luck and him asking me, you know,
you know, just calling me up and saying, hey, I
need help. And Andrew's a close friend and you know.
But the second thing was this seems like a really
cool opportunity. You know, I mean, I've never done anything
like this. It's a challenge, it's another mountain to climb,
it's an experience to gain, and so you know that

(23:17):
those are really the two reasons. A to help out
my friend Andrew, and then B, this is Stanford and
this is going to be there's unique student athletes it's
a unique university and a unique alumni group and environment culture,
and so I'm like, I'm I've always heard that this
place is very special, and I have an opportunity to

(23:40):
go experience.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
So let's go.

Speaker 8 (23:42):
Let's go all in. It's been as advertised so far,
it's been a blast.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
I went and looked at your official title and it
says Stanford University interim head coach. Now is that the
plan to stay interim head coach?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
That's the plan?

Speaker 8 (23:55):
And you know, Andrew and I are both real clear
about that at this at the beginning, and.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
So you know, it just works. I mean, Andrew was
in a unique.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
Situation where you know how to make a coaching change
at a time that you don't really make one, and
and I was retired, you know, and I was content
to move on. I had thirty plus years of playing
and coaching and I felt like I, you know, it
was a good run and was ready to move on.
And then, like I said, this was a one year thing.

(24:27):
And you know, so when I talked to my wife
of almost forty years now, you know, she's traveled with
me all over the place, guys, I mean, like I've
made her move so many times, and you know, and
it's just that's important to me. You know, that's important
to me. She sacrificed a lot. I want to be
around her. I want to be around my family. Uh

(24:48):
So we just looked at this as you know what,
this is another one more year.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Let's let's go give it all week.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
All I have and go experience this and the family
will come out here, they'll get to experience it, and
then you know, we'll move on from there.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
When you look at college football on the landscape now
and everything that's involved with the portal and nil and
did you know what you were signing up for and
what that all encompassed.

Speaker 8 (25:12):
I did, Matt, And probably that's probably one reason why
I didn't want to. I wasn't necessarily looking to jump
into college coaching. But Andrew made that easy in that
he said, Frank, all you got to do. It's like
you're going to be an NFL coach because because you're
only here for one year, no one's expecting you to recruit,
because you're not recruiting kids that you would. You know,

(25:34):
you'll be a part of a few things here and
there in conversations. But Andrew, Andrew's the leader of the program.
You know, this is what's different about it. Andrew as
the GM, It's almost like he's not head coach, but
as the GM, he's the face of the franchise. And
there's no better face of the franchise than Andrew Luck
for Stanford and so he bleeds Stanford read. I mean,

(25:55):
this guy, he is so passionate about this place. So's
he's the foundation of it. It's his vision of what
he wants. I'm just one piece that can come in
and help him fulfill his vision. And I can give
all my experience to the players, right they all want
to you know, most of them want to be NFL players.
So I can help there both tell them what I

(26:19):
think it takes, but also when it's their turn to
kind of go. And I'm talking to other people in
the NFL, I can give evaluations of guys who I've
gotten to know as a player. So yeah, I just
think Andrew has done a great job of taking all that.
Andrew said to me, Hey, you don't have to recruit,
you don't have to worry about the NIL. I'll take
care of all that. You just go coach football.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
What about your staff? How does that work?

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh? Man, it was crazy.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
I mean, like, there's no coach in the world who
would say, hey, ya, hey, come in here. And you
got to like, one of the greatest joys of being
a head coach is to hire your own staff. And
so to have a situation where hey, Frank, I need you.
By the way, you have to keep all the staff.
It's you know, because we start springball tomorrow more or less,

(27:06):
so we don't have time to change the staff. And
I was like, I said, okay, I said, well, tell
me about them, and you know, give me your honest assessment.
And Andrew went down one by one and he talked
about every guy in the staff, and I was like,
all right, that's our staff.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Let's go.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
I'm excited about it. And again, unique challenge and opportunity.
But I can tell you this, as I got here,
it didn't take me long to feel really good about it,
to know these are not only good coaches, these are
good human beings. I think everybody on the staff recognized
that this is a crazy and unique situation, so let's

(27:47):
embrace it.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's really was my approach.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Hey, guys, we all know that this is unprecedented in
a lot of ways, so let's embrace it. Let's let's
buy into each other and believe in each other.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
And let's go for these kids, for the kids, for
the kid's sake, for.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
The university's sake, and everybody of horses on board, and
we're having a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Couse, you are also an offensive minded guy. That's what
you're known for. Your guru in that sense. So how
much input are you going to have in the offense
and molding it to look like your type of offense?

Speaker 8 (28:20):
Yeah, well that was It was funny when Andrew called
and because we were it took me three or four
days to make the decision, you know, talking to my wife.
And then once it made the decision, you know, springball
started two days later, so there was no real time
to change the offense at that and Andrews said, hey,
we'll just kind of keep the playbook from what they've

(28:41):
had and coaching staff knows it and so on and
so forth. So that was kind of the original plan.
But then you get in here and it's like, okay,
we have to do a little bit. So we have
tweaked some things, and Matt I actually think that'll be
a little bit to our advantage. So especially early in
the year, because people will think we are going to

(29:03):
keep some of the playbook that they've had, but there
will be some changes. And you know, I think we
just have to play that to our advantage for the
first three or four weeks of the season so that
the defensive coordinators of the other team are they're trying
to figure out who is Stanford going to be offensively?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
We can't be one hundred percent sure.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
We were just talking Matt Night about when he was
playing and going East coast to West coast and West
Coast to East coast and playing these games, and you know,
you and Cal are like the only West Coast teams.
You're always traveling like that has got to be so
difficult for the body, like to be out a rhythm
like that.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
How do you guys combat that?

Speaker 8 (29:54):
Yeah, I mean it is. It is more challenging for sure.
You know, it takes a lot of sports science and
listen as a head coach in the NFL for six
years and being around you know, top sports science guys.
But of course I was always in the East Coast
for most.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Of my career.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
I coached in San Diego for three years, in Arizona
for one year, So there is a little bit of
a different philosophy going west to east than there is
going east to west. When you're going three time zones.
You know, normally, if you're going one or two time zones,
you're not too worried about it, but when you're going
three time zones, you better have a plan.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
So you've got to have a plan. So we have
a plan.

Speaker 8 (30:33):
I've talked with our sports science guys here our plan
as well researched. You know, a lot of it has
to do with circadian rhythm, you know, just getting the
proper you know, are you going to try to adjust
your time schedule? Are you going to just try to
stay on West coast time? You just have to develop
a philosophy on it, understand why to what you're doing,

(30:54):
and because it can make a difference. And you know,
our plan is to make that, you know, to use
that to our advantage. There is a challenge to it,
but if we do it the right way, you know,
you mentally just approach it like, no, let's find a
way to make this to our advantage.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
So that's what we're doing.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Because you coach some great players. Obviously, Andrew Luckbying one
of them. Philip Rivers another one. When you look at
your team right now, how much pride do you take
in the mentorship of the quarterback position and what is
the outlook for Stanford this year at the quarterback position.

Speaker 8 (31:28):
Really excited as you said, you know, I've had a
blessing of being around some amazing quarterbacks and have I've
learned so much from those guys, you know, like being
in the meeting room with guys like you, Matt you know,
and and other quarterbacks whether they were Peyton Manning or
or you know, it could be any of the guys, right,

(31:50):
any of the guys. Or you take a guy like
Nick Foles, who was you know, had tremendous dramatic swings
in his career where he's an All Pro and then
he's a backup, then he's the Super Bowl MVP, you know,
then he's back you know. So there's just a fun
environment and I've learned so much from all the quarterbacks

(32:11):
that I've been with. So as I bring that to
the to the team here and to the quarterback room here,
I'm excited about the group we have.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
We do have two We did lose.

Speaker 8 (32:21):
One player in the portal and we picked up two
guys in the portal. You know, so as of right now,
you know, we'll be going into this training camp really
with an open competition at the at the position, but
excited about the room.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Coach one of my friends coaches Vanderbilt football, Clark Lee,
and he talks about how rigorous the academic standards are
at Vanderbilt to also play football. Stanford feel similar, except
more accomplished in the football side of things. But you
have to recruit a certain type of kid to go
to school there, right.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh, yeah, no.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
And I find out really quick that they're real serious
about that. There was, you know, there was one one
guy we were looking at, and you know that I
thought his tape looked pretty good. And so I'm asked
and the guys, I said, hey, you know what about
this guy? And they did a quick study of his grades,
and his grades were good, like you know, and I'm

(33:13):
not going to go into the exact details of this conversation,
but they weren't my almost all standards.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
These grades were good.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
Grades, good GPA, but they were not good enough for Stanford.
And the guy was a good player, and so I
just asked the question, and I asked the question something
to the degree of, well, these aren't solid grades, right, yeah,
I mean there's nothing we can do. No, there's nothing.
They're not good enough. The grades aren't good enough, and

(33:43):
so it is a smaller pool of student athlete that
we can recruit.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
But that's I.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
Think one of the things that makes this a pretty
cool place.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Because when you're going into college football, you always hear
people talk about there's such a difference from the NFL
game to the college game. What they're running and how
they operate the line of scrimmage and all those different factors.
Do you see that pretty immediately when you on the
film and you start watching how the defensive play and
also how the offensive play.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
I do, And I think the biggest difference is, you know,
in the NFL, you just meet with the players all
day long. I mean you know, there is no I
mean there's a time limit, but it doesn't really come
into play, and so you can exhaust every meeting. You
can exhaust every detail and scheme and an adjustment that
you want to make. And in college the rules are

(34:32):
such that you know, you just don't have as much
meeting time with the players, so you have to keep
it more simple it's still sophisticated, it's still at a
high level, but it's not the elite level of the NFL.
I mean, in the NFL, it's the best of the best.
And so if you don't know how to as you know, Matt,
if you don't know how to win the game within

(34:54):
the game and every little nuance and change up and
split and formation adjustment to try to get somebody off
bounce a little bit, and to get some kind of
tell or clue for the quarterback, and to be able
to kind of work that all out, there's just not
You're just not able to do that at the same

(35:14):
level in college.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Coach.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
I'm curious about you and andrew Lux relationship because it's
a bit un orthodox. We're seeing here a good it
has to be a good friend to call and ask, hey, coach,
will you come and do this for me? What is
you guys' friendship? What is your relationship rooted in?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Well, you know, Andrew, two things. I think one is you.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
Know, Andrew was coming off obviously a very difficult couple
of years with with the injuries that he had, was
coming to the end of his career and about to
make a monumental life and career decision, and I just
happened to be the guy in the room who was
with him to help walk through that decision. And so
at the same time he was our starting quarterback. We

(36:00):
were friends. And so when he's when he decided to retire,
you know, it was a surprise to the world, but
it was not a surprise to me. We had been
he had been talking to me about it for months
and and you know we were just process he was
processing through it. And so after that eight after the
eighteenth season, I think the other thing that Jewish close

(36:22):
together was, you know, he had a really good year
in eighteen when we played together, when we worked together,
you know, we started out the year one in five,
it looked like it was not going to go well,
and then we went on a run where we won
nine to ten games, ended up and then won a
playoff game, and you know, I think we were one
of the best teams in the in the league by

(36:43):
the time the season ended, and he had a phenomenal year.
And you know, he would say, you know, maybe played
his best year of football.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I think there was.

Speaker 8 (36:51):
He's had several really good years, but certainly in a
lot of respects. One of his better years. So I
think that kind of Jewish closer together the career slash
life decision. And then, uh, and I had the unique
distinction of was able to perform the wedding ceremony for
he and his wife Nicole. And you know, I'm an
ordained minister, so they they asked me to perform their

(37:14):
wedding ceremony, so I had that was a pretty cool
opportunity to do that as well.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
That's unbelievable. I didn't even know that. So you're an
ordained minister. So I know when my kids finally grow up,
who I'm calling first. Because you seem like you're great
at it, it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Well. When you go back to the Philadelphia Eagles and
you mentioned Nick Foles, and I thought that was such
a remarkable season. You're the offensive coordinator. Was that one
of the most fulfilling seasons that you had as a
coach considering what was at stake? You lose Carson Wentz
late in the year or in the middle of the year,
and now you have to go on a run, and
you guys go accomplish what nobody thought you could do,
which is go out. Well, you guys probably thought you could,

(37:52):
but a lot of people on the outside looking in
said no. But from a coaching standpoint, you get to
have Nick Foles come in and you get to go
prove something with him.

Speaker 8 (38:00):
Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah, Like you said, Matt, it
was incredibly fulfilling. And for me personally, after playing or
coaching in five Super Bowls and losing the game, it
was really fun to go to a Super Bowl the
sixth time and win and such an incredible experience the
whole year, the game itself, and afterwards with my family

(38:22):
who had kind of been there, you know, my wife especially,
who had been there with me through all those losses
of Super Bowls. So that was special. But that Eagles
team was really unique. The character of the team was
so high. Carson Wentz, you know, in his second year literally,
I mean was having the best year. It was having
an MVP season, is playing as good as well as

(38:43):
a quarterback could play. And then what Nick Foles did
when he came in was just something that I don't know,
it's just hard to even put into words what he
did and how well the team played. Matt, you'll appreciate this,
I think and you know, you guys can look up
the stat if anybody's a stat nut and wants to
see it. But like in our playoff run, our third
down conversion percentage I think was over seventy percent for

(39:07):
the accumulation of three playoff games. I mean, it was
pretty crazy. And that was Nick. And then I think
the other key to that season was the offensive line.
You know, we ran the ball well, but then in
the playoffs when we needed to throw it, and throw
it big nick.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Nick was lights out.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Final question, coach, and it does have to do with
the Eagles. Your dad was drafted by the Eagles. One,
were you a big Eagles fan and even a big
Penn State fan because your dad played there too? Like
did you grow up with those being your teams? And
then second of all, when you're back coaching, and Matt
asked the question, was it even a little more special
because of the relationship you had with the brand with
the team?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, I mean I grew up.

Speaker 8 (39:46):
I grew up you know, really an hour and twenty
minutes from Philadelphia, So you know, not that the Eagles
were my team growing up, because they weren't. Actually the
Steelers were my team. My mom was from Pittsburgh, and
so we spent a lot of time in the summers.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
We spent a lot of time.

Speaker 8 (40:05):
I'm in Pittsburgh, and the Steelers, of course back in
the seventies were super good team, and uh, you know,
so I was a little bit more of a Steeler fan,
but because my dad was drafted by the Eagles and
the proximity to Philadelphia and everyone in our community, we
were you know, I was an Eagles fan even though
I was primarily a Steeler fan. And being able to

(40:26):
come back and coach there, and you know, have high
school friends, high school teachers, be able to come to games,
you know, drive the games. It ended up making that
year special in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Coach, we really appreciate the time we're rooting for you
guys this year. And what do you guys say? What
do you say, Stanford? What's the saying like, Stanford?

Speaker 5 (40:46):
Go true?

Speaker 6 (40:46):
What do you say when you get up your interview?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Hard?

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Yeah? Go? Card?

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Okay, yeah go Card.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
I guess they're simple, Yeah, they're simple.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
All right, Coach, thanks for the time. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
Good luck to share.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Thank you guys, Thanks coach, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
All right, Good to talk to coach, So tell me
the story though in depth. So you go up and
you work out for him, Like, what's happening there?

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Right? So they had finally come to the decision that
Andrew Luck was not going to play that year. He's retiring,
which was a shock to everybody on the outside. Obviously
it wasn't a shock to him. But so they're looking
for a quarterback to come in. They had Jacobe Eberssett
was there still on staff. He was their second string
the year before, but they're looking to bring in another
backup quarterback. So I went up there and there was

(41:44):
three guys there. It was myself, Brandon Whedon, and Osweiler.
And so you go in and you do a full physical.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Do you show up at the same time with those
guys all.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
At the same time. So you get in there, You're like,
what's up, bro, what's up?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
You know you're all there together.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
You know these guys too, I've known him. You know,
when you play in this little fraternity of people, you
all your friends. But now you're going to compete against
them in the setting that hey, this is a one
day try out, Bro, I'm trying to beat you out.
You're trying to do the same. So you get in
there and I was just super thankful they didn't make
us like run a thirty yard or forty yard dash.
I was like, I'm not prepared for that. So they

(42:21):
go and they do your weight, body fat composition, all
the different things that you do to make sure that
you're healthy. Then you go out in the field and
they put you through a pretty rigorous throwing session. Right
you're throwing comebacks and cuts, they have some movement. The
coaches are out all out there, kind of standing there
with their arms cross some of them are making notes,
and you're like, I wonder how that went.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
I thought it came off right down there.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
Yeah, I don't know. I was a little high, but
you know, I haven't been throwing much recently, guys. And
then from there you go in and meet with the
coaching staff. And like he said before, I had a
relationship with Nick Areani, so he was probably a big
part of me coming up to work out with Indianapolis.
But I got to sit down with coach and in
the head coach's office and ran through film, talked about

(43:04):
general philosophy. He blitz pick up situational and so he's
just picking your brain. What do you know? You know,
how can you help? And I thought it went really
well at the end of the day. Like I said,
they had a relationship where the GM did with Brian Hoyer,
who they traded for and brought him in. So I
never got an opportunity to play for him, but everything
that I had heard about him as a person held
up true when you went and meet met the man

(43:27):
and had the genuine discussion with him.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
We went a couple of years ago to Panthers camp
when he was the head coach of the Panthers.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
That was not a good situation all.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
The way around, right, it was.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yes, it was sloppy. Yeah, it's very slow. It's a
good word for it. So we go to camp and
it's like day two of camp and I'm holding a
ball during the interview and I could tell and coach
is a big guy, right, He's an NFL quarterback, good athlete,
big guy, and he's like, why are you holding that ball?
I said, well, I'm not going to fumble up the
whole interview. And he took that as a challenge and

(43:59):
he goes, no way. He takes his hand and swings
to knock the ball out of my arm mid interview
and hits me in the nose, like, come on, interesting, Yeah,
it's on the internet. We go and like clips me
in the nose and goes to the ball and I'm like, oh, like,
my eyes are all watery, but I held on to

(44:20):
the ball.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
What did he What was his reaction after he realized
that he just cold cocked you in the nose.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
No, he was like, that's ball, bro, That's basically it.
That's ball.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
Bro. You challenged me. You said I couldn't get this ball,
and now I'm going to show you what it's like.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, he thought I had two heads though, because the interview,
I really like him and I don't always interview traditionally,
and I think at the end he really was enjoying it.
But at first I go into my style is definitely
a bit different, and he was looking like are you
even real? And then I was holding the ball and
he was like, I'm about to see how whack writing
the nose held onto the ball.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Though.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
It's it's funny you said that because it takes me
back to college, because when we were in college, Pete
Carroll had this philosophy of all about the ball. So
the defense takes it away, the offense holds onto it.
If a running back or any skill set position player
fumble the ball during practice, they had to carry a
ball all day long around campus, to their classes, to

(45:16):
the meeting room, and at any point if a teammate
saw him and could sneak up and strip it and
take it back, they would have to run. So, I mean,
you talk about some funny situations. When you're in a
geography class filled with one hundred kids and you hear
like a full rumbling in the back, it's because somebody
knocked the ball out of one of the running backs

(45:37):
hands and they're all going to get it. It was amazing,
that's awesome. Yeah, it was a I thought it was
one of the best all time, all time. Just philosophies
of how to take care of the football.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, you had to your subconscious had to be holding
onto the ball. Oh, if it's all day long, I enticed,
always are holding on to it, even if it's not
like a conscious thought. To always hold it tight. It's
got to become so second nature. They're holding it against
your body. That's an interest situation. Coach as because he's
there for one year.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
I know I didn't realize that. I just thought he
had the title interim head coach, thinking that that was
probably going to extend based on his success. He legit
is there for one.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
Year, same staff and that status, which.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Nobody that he brought in.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
And they're lame duck coaches for the most part, because
whomever they hire is going to have his own staff
like for that team. And I'm assuming they went three
games last year, right, three and nine. I'm assuming They're
gonna win more than three games this year. But that
is coming from a place of total instability, and that

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all the coaches, they all know they're gone. Coach, right,
ain't gonna be there next year because he has said
it's a one year deal.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
And he was dead serious about it. Yes, no, he knows.
I'm just coming in here playing head.

Speaker 7 (46:53):
Coach for a year, but until you can find some
until you can find somebody else, and then even to
look for a coach, like are they looking for a
coach during the season as he's coaching.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
I think that's got to be one hundred percent what
Andrew luck is thinking. It's going to buy him time.
He has somebody in there that he trusts, understands philosophically
what he's trying to get done. At the same time,
somebody that will hopefully mold and mentor the young coaches
on the staff, maybe keep some of those guys along.
But it's going to give Andrew the ability to go

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out and do interviews throughout the year and kind of
really hone in on who they want to bring in
to be the next full time head coach at Stanford.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Did you know Andrew at all?

Speaker 5 (47:32):
Just through competition and I've met him a few times
at a few different golf tournaments and stuff. Great dude,
I mean, a guy that has a great presence about him,
really smart, intellectual and just a stud on the football field,
tough as nails, didn't always have the best offensive line,
but a guy that would come and compete and you
knew you were going to get his best every single day.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
No thanks again to coach, and we'll take a break
and come right back.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
So here's my big list for the week. It's things
that are lost on me.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Things that are lost on me, and I'm as complicated it.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
Is not, and I'm going to tell you why.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
So I got a really nice gift the other day
and it was a bottle of handcrafted limited edition. And
I say hand because they wrote on it, like what
bottle it was? Yeah, like really expensive bourbon. The person
really knew you exactly. For those that are new, or

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maybe you just don't know. I've never had a drink
of alcohol in my life, and so I would love
to drink alcohol.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
I just feel like it would do really bad things
to me.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
So I have this bottle of very expensive bourbon that
I can do nothing with. So the gift of expensive
alcohol is completely lost on me. Right, So that's where
the inspiration for this list came from. Completely lost. I
do have a wine cellar, or like a wine I
don't even know what.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
It's called, wine fridge, wine cellar.

Speaker 7 (49:10):
It's it's something in the middle cellars. If it's a room,
it's a room. I'd refer to it more as that.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
But it's not in the cellar though. But it is
big enough to take up a whole room. No, but
I can walk in. I would say it's the size
of three showers.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
It's a pretty big room.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
I can walk in and put my arms out and
still not touch it. I don't, we don't, we don't
want to drink. My wife drinks wine. Sometimes, but I
don't drink anything. It was just when we built the house,
they were like, and this is where we're gonna put
the wine and it's freezing cold. Sure, I've never even
been in that thing until the other day when I
put the bourbon. And then I'll learn you're not supposed
to put bourbon in a wine.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Fridge room temperature.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Mine's cold. I prefer mine cold that I don't drink.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
No, I guarantee your regifting that for sure.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
My name's on it.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Oh, then you're not regift That's what I'm saying. A
little trophy that you're just gonna put up in the room,
like this is a really good bourbon, then I'm never
gonna taste.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
I could regift it to my close friends because they
would know they think it was funny. Yeah, they think
it was funny, and they would appreciate that it's a
expensive bourbon that I was never going to use and
pick them to have it.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
Yes, so I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
I have seven of these things that are lost on me.
Next up, rainbows. Why you ask, I am colorblind as crap,
so I can see some of the colors, but I
don't think that I can see as many colors as
vividly as everyone else. Because I see a rainbow and
it's just like a few colors and I'm like cool.
I'm never like wow, And I think I just don't

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see colors well generally speaking.

Speaker 6 (50:32):
Therefore, I don't really enjoy rainbows.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
I can totally understand that if you can't see the
colors of the rainbow, how it's just like exactly, my
eyes are playing tricks on me. There's like a few
lines up there, but I can't really see it. Well,
you can't see then of it blind, not totally color hind.

Speaker 6 (50:47):
But expensive coffee, Yeah, I'm gonna tell you why. Because
I don't drink coffee.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Oh yeah, I don't like coffee and bad tasting water,
expensive or cheap is the same to me. So I
have friends that are like this coffee tastes so pure,
or tastes so the acidity.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
Yeah, I hate it so much. I don't know the difference.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
So when someone's like this is a great coffee or
a great coffee place, unless they have great muffins, that's
no difference to me.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
I'm right there with you. No, I'm not a coffee snob.
As long as you have a good morning breakfast that
I can eat with the coffee. Yeah, because a lot
of times I drink my coffee black. Now, every now
and then, I'll put a little cream in there. However,
I'm not going to go out of my way to
a new coffee shop that just opened up just to
get some special blend. It's just not one lost on me.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
I'm sure to some people found the next one. The
hype around Bruce Springsteen. Now, I did not grow up
in the Northeast. I've never really got Bruce Springsteen the boss. Yeah, yeah,
that's right. I don't get it, and so I'm not
supposed to get it, I think. But like, my favorite
artists that are songwriters look at him as one of

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their favorite songwriters. So like, I know I'm missing something
because my favorite people it's their favorite, it's my favorite
people's favorite.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
Is it the depth of his lyrics that don't say
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Death, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
What do your friends say about him that make him
such a remarkable figure?

Speaker 3 (52:19):
They just he's like such.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
A great songwriter.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
But I feel like it represents so much of the
area he's from. And I'm sure there's stuff like Born
to Run and I like some of the songs, but
I am not like a pure Bruce Springsteen guy when
it comes to like the depth of his music because
I think it's just lost on me.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
I don't have an answer. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
On fire, it's I don't fire heart what it called.
I'm on fire, I'm on fire. Hearts on Fire is good,
though earlier he was doing baby Bash and he was
doing Tom Jones, so there's no ia that talking. What
Heart's on fire is Eric Church? You know, How's How's

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there a church Hearts on her? Oh yeah, yeah, that's all.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
That from Springsteen.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
See and he does sing a song Springsteen. Okay, okay,
I get okay. I think two more being And I'm
pretty tall. Hey, you're you're what six foot six one one?
My six one six one? Yeah, I wore shoes, so

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six one shoes. That's what I'm saying. If somebody's tall
at a concert, it doesn't bother me, even if they're
taller than me, because I'll just move. It's a concert.
You're supposed to have fun, right. People get upset with
people standing up, like what's lost? Some of my people
getting angry at people standing up at games or concerts, games.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
There are parts of games that I've been to where
they're standing up and they're never gonna sit down, and
it's not a point in the game where you have
to stand up. So if you want to kind of
sit there and watch the game, it is definitely blocking
your view. You can't move around concert.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Unless it's a piano unless it's a piano recital or
on sir acoustic, you should. You can stand up whenever
you want. Same with a game. True, now I don't
have to stand up with I don't want to. But
if someone's gonna stand up, unless there's like an old
lady or someone in a wheelchair, like I think everybody
should have the right to stand up the whole time, okay,
because I don't get upset if people do it in

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front of me.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
I just there are people that get pissed. They do
oh man, they do get down on the front.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
It's like I paid for a ticket and doesn't say
I can't stand.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
So I'm gonna stand stand.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Unless it's an acoustic Springsteen show, I'm going sun Fire
two other ones. People who call running fun oh, I've
never understood that ever, Like are you are you okay?
How's this fun.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
The Distant Runners.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Mike, do you how much do you run a week?

Speaker 4 (54:49):
About forty five miles a week?

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Wait? What did you just say?

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Yeah, average about forty to forty five miles a.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Week, And that's pleasurable for you.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
For me, it is I don't think it's fun. He
runs twenty miles at a time.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
My Sunday long run was twenty one miles.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
How long does that?

Speaker 5 (55:05):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Three hours?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
What do you get from it? And how do you not,
I don't know, jump off a bridge. Whenever you're doing it.

Speaker 9 (55:13):
For me, it clears my mind. Like when I'm running,
I'm not there, like my brain is somewhere else. It's
kind of like therapy for me. So in that moment
it doesn't suck for me. And then when I get back,
I'm just like, I come back down and I feel good.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
But you need three hours of therapy. Couldn't you do
that done? Like in fifteen minutes? What in the world, dude,
You're seriously messed up. So it's good for you. It
clears your mind. But my mind when I run, this
is every second I'm be running. This sucks.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
This sucks, This sucks, This sucks.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
This sucks.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
This sucks.

Speaker 6 (55:42):
This sucks.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
That's me running, or you think about should I be
breathing through my nose?

Speaker 3 (55:46):
It sucks, This sucks. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (55:48):
See, I'm like that for the first two miles, and
then after that, I don't think about it anymore. I
don't feel like I'm running anymore.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Mike lost one hundred pounds, over a hundred pounds, and.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
That's what started this.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Oh, that's amazing.

Speaker 9 (55:57):
I started walking, then I started. Eventually my goal was
just to be able to run a mile without stopping.
And once I got to that, I was like, let's
do two miles, Let's do three miles. And then I
did a half marathon. I did a full marathon. And
now this is kind of my average.

Speaker 6 (56:09):
And like no injections or surgery.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
This is way before I was way before.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
They lost over one hundred pounds.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
That's an incredible honestly, like the motivation behind that to
go out and to achieve it and start with a
small goal and turn it into what he's doing now,
which is three hours of therapy on the weekend or.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Cure us three hours?

Speaker 5 (56:29):
Do you get the runners high what they refer to?

Speaker 3 (56:31):
You really do?

Speaker 9 (56:32):
Like your your body feels good, your limbs are just
all moving and like once and you just feel like, oh,
like I could go forever. That's why I like look
down and I'm like, oh, I already been going two hours.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
I'd be in shocked.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
I think I've maybe misunderstood the meaning of good my
whole life. If your body feels good to me when
I run, my body feels terrible.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
My ankle's hurt, my hips hurt. I'm bored.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
I'm questioning it. I hate running so much, like it's lost.
Rints me too, But I hate them. But they're quicker.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
They're quicker, and mentally I can grasp those a lot
easier than saying, all right, I'm just gonna go for
how many miles you run?

Speaker 9 (57:08):
Twenty twenty on my long runs, no chick normal run
if I go like during the week, would probably be
like ten miles, which is like under ninety minutes for me.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
I had my older brother the other day. He was
with this group of people and one of them, one
of his acquaintances, our friends, was there. He's an ultra
marathon runner, and so he's got crazy he's got an
ultra marathon coming up. And some of the guys that
were there are very similar to you where they go
out and they distance run, so they're all jumping on board. Hey,
i'll paste you out for the first twenty I'll pace

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you out. So they're all jumping and I think that
we were having a few drinks and my older brother,
who's not a runner, he's getting inspired. He's like, hey,
I'll do it. And he's like really, and he's like, yeah,
i'll do it, not realizing he's got the last stretch
of like fifteen miles. And then he calls me the
next day and immediately regretting that decision because now he's

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got to go out and get in shape and he's
not a distance runner. I'm laughing, thinking this is going
to be hellhilarious.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Ultra marathon, I don't know what they run, but they
are typically one hundred mile.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
It's onred mile. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
That's crazy. I've done two Olympic traflons, which is at
the beginning you swim a mile.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
You just kind of throw that in there.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
It's not this. I feel like I could throw I
can because I'm kicking it under the car because I
just said ultra marathon. This an Olympic travelon, is not
an ultra marathon.

Speaker 7 (58:28):
But it's a pretty pretty it's not even an iron
Man rigorous.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Yes, but I mentioned in the context of mine is
much less than this, and I hated it. I swam
a mile, I biked for twenty six miles and I
ran like six and a half or something like that.
Whatever the yeah, and it was miserable. I bet sounds awful. Yeah,
And just think about running one hundred on a road
at least that you got to like switch it up

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with the one that I did it twice.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Those guys, it always fascinates me because there's something mentally
they can steal their mind. And when you get to
the one hundred mile mark, just think about that one
hundred miles. How long does that normally take? At least
over a day.

Speaker 9 (59:07):
Yeah, I've seen people do it like day and a half,
two days.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
Running straight for a day and a half.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
Wow, let me talk. How long does.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
It take to run one hundred miles? Here we go,
running one hundred miles takes most people between twenty and
thirty four hours. Wow, man, that's crazy. I don't even
want to lay in bed that long. And that's the
complete opposite, and that's of doing nothing. I can't even
lay in bed that long as long as they take

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to run.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
It's absurd.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
The last thing that's lost on me is peanut butter
and jelly. I hate peanut butter. I hate peanut butter
so much, and so as a kid, it was all
peanut butter and jelly all the time.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
That is true. And you get scarred from the ones
that we used to have to take because there was
the old school sack lunch. The jelly's kind of leaking
through the bread on the top. It's all bruised and
you're just But I do love peanut butter.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Most people do. I think sane people do. And playing
high school ball, they always had. They had incrustables or
peanut butter sandwiches during two days and all all lost
to me.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
I hated it so much, I'd like bring my own crap.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
So you have never liked peanut butter, No, never, really,
you have peanut allergy. No.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I like almonds, I like almond butter. I like peanuts,
I like butter. I hate peanut butter.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Now you're getting into the peanut butter. You're getting in
the strange. You said you like peanuts.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I love peanuts and I love butter. You know, I've
actually started.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
Jiffy peanut butter. Like, oh man, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Like a I've taken peanuts and put them in butter
and eatn that and that's pretty good. But do I
like peanut butter? No?

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Say you put peanuts in butter. Yeah, that's that's just different.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
I wanted to see if I'm sorry. I wanted to
see if I liked peanut and butter. Turns out I do.
But do I like peanut butter? Heck no, it's awful
to me.

Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
To me, wow, that is I've never liked it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
It's definitely out there. I love peanut butter.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Well you should.

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
It's it's something that most normal people like.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
So did you have peanut butter jelly when you're younger
or just always threw it out?

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Never ate it? I hated it?

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Oh you never even had it? You never like? Did
the doritos? I was a little fat kid, so I
loved it. I'd put the doritos in the middle of
the sandwich, squish it down with the peanut butter sandwich.
Oh yeah, fantastic favor.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
PROFILE would do that with blooney sandwiches and mustard. Put
the Doritos in that perfect wonderbread.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
Yeah. Perfect, And then you had the little plastic cheese
that came out, and then bloney, did you ever did
you ever fought fry the bloney?

Speaker 6 (01:01:39):
My grandma did. I wasn't really trust around the stove.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
No, we had the microwave. I'd throw it in there.
I do the cheap route, burn one side, other sides
kind of puffed up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Is that frying if it's in the microwave.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Well, it's burning, so it's hot hot bloney, Yeah, grease
all over your microwave for two weeks.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
No, I never I never ate peanut butter.

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Were you a miracle whip guy? Or were your best food?
I could have guessed that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Haye, mayonnaise, Oh disgusting. Love mustard. I think think every
meat is better with mustard mustard. Do you have a
go to like steak sauce? A one and I'll put
on I will put a one on anything. It doesn't
matter how good the steak is. A one always makes
it better.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
I do feel bad when every now and then I'm
just in the mood for steak sauce, and I'll ask
for steak sauce at a nicer steak restaurant and they
look at you like you just blew their mind.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Yeah. I have in the past taken bottles with me
to restaurants, even the small bottles. But I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
What your wallet? No, the A one sauce.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
My wife has never had a condiment ever, Never had
a condiment. No mustard, no ketchup, no mayonnaise, no any
She hates all of them. Never had a condiment. Won't
touch the bottles if I leave.

Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
Them on the counter.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Is it texture for her or just.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
I've asked her that. She said no, because all the
textures are different, because mayonnaise is different than mustard. But again,
I don't eat mayonnaise, but there's a lot of mustard
in my house because I love it, and ketchup. If
I leave the bottle, and if she's cleaning the kitchen,
the one thing that remains is whatever condiment I had
out because she would not even touch the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
She's allergic.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
She hates it, hates it, hates it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
That's very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I think that's it for this week. Thanks again to coach. Right,
what do you have going on this week?

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
This week? We got some tournaments going on. We got
a volleyball tournament. We got some baseball for U Sports school.
School is officially out for summer, so entertainment of children
is a big, big thing around our house right now.
A lot of swimming outdoors. Even though the weather's been
kind of.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
It's been bad. It's rained all the time. She's just
all rain all.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
We did have about a three day stretch of last
week Wednesday through i'd say around Friday, that was incredible,
nice days, seventy five, seventy six. But we've gotten so
many of these like storms that coming through that just
makes it miserable.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Well in the ground's always soggy and wet, so I
can't do anything. Yeah, I'm going to go and play
Pains Valley. Yes you are in Branson. I'm pretty excited
about that. Wonderful course. I invited you to come along,
but now it's summer and you can't do anything, So.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
I can't do anything. You literally told me that right before, like, hey,
what are you doing this weekend?

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
I just I literally just got the call. I'm gonna
go do it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
But the most amazing part is I'm sitting there telling you, oh,
I got volleyball and we got this. I was gonna
invite you to Branson. I was like, oh, you just
broke my heart.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna fly in the private fly out.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
Pretty not a bad deal.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
Yeah yeah, but uh yeah, you can't go all right?

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Are you gonna shoot a seventy No?

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Probably, whenever it matters, I shoot like three hundred. No,
I think you're gonna kill if. I'm like, I really
want to play well because the course is really nice.
I tend to get I tend to get a little tight.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
But if it's like big steaks, I tend to not
be tight.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
Who are you going with? So?

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Uh brother in law? Yeah, father in law. Because it's
like a year wait to get on in there. So
I made a couple of calls, right, and they really
have wanted to play it for a long time, and
I have the ability every once to make a call.
And so we were hoping to be in Oklahoma City
for the College World Series. So my schedule's open and
I was like, Hey, we're coming out. We want to

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shoot some content and they were like, no problem, that's
gonna be great. It's awesome. So yeah, sorry you can't go.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
Thanks for reving that in.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
I literally but I literally, I really do appreciate it.
Brandon's going here and Brandon's shooting it. Did I'm not
ask you twenty minutes before we got here, and I
wanted to ask you in person. I was like, hey,
should go with us because you're my friend and you
go on all this and others. I'm gonna go hunt
and shoot birds and do all this over. And I'm like, well,
maybe you want to come play golf for one night.
We have a cabin and everything.

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
I know, maybe I could just put off my kids
somebody that'll take them to the trip.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
I'm in, hey, kids, I'll be back.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
I swear.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
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a comment.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
If you leave a comment and you write as the
comment Matt Castle is my daddy, and you spell Castle's
last name right, I will pick one of those comments
and send you assign Matt Castle Jersey. You have another one,
so I will go and pick one if you go
right in the comments because on Spotify you can actually
Mike write down below it. You write in the comments
Matt Castle is my daddy. You can write anything else.

(01:06:25):
I will pick one of them. We will send you
in Matt Castle.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
I will wait to see what they write after they
have to write Matt Castles my daddy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
If it's your kids though, that's too literal, and we
will give them a y.

Speaker 6 (01:06:36):
They kept you from playing golf with me?

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Yes, all right, that's it, Thank you guys, Thanks to
Brandon Ray, Thanks to Mike d filling in for kick Off.

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
Kevin one final time he had twins and he'll be
back next week.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Let's go so he also will not be going golfing.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Can't wait to hear about that journey.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Yeah, I've been in the two weeks. I bet it's
been quite the Jersey.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
Bet he's grown up a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
He comes, he's gray. He was bald before he left,
but now he's great. Completely.

Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
That's Matt Castle on Bobby Belle.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
If we've had lots to sday by.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Everybody, lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle
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