Lots to Say: Holiday Recap, HR Derby, and CFB/NFL Rivalries

Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel recap their holiday weekend including fireworks and summer movies.  How many of the Jurassic Park movies have you seen? Bobby is excited to be part of the HR Derby for the MLB All Star Game. Bobby reveals his top 3 celebs that he'd like to meet some day.

We play "Which QB is Older" to find out which QBs have been playing longer than we remember. Matt talks about working sidelines for NBC and his impression of the Big Ten.  Bobby wants to know the Top 3 coaches that Matt has worked with.  Who are the College QB's that Bobby will be watching? What are the biggest rivalries in College Football?

Moving to the NFL, have rivalries changed from historic teams to the modern teams?  Bobby tells us the one team and rivalry that Bill Belichick seemed to look forward to.  Plus, what are NFL players doing right now in July?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts We.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Begger here and we hope you said because we got lost,
just save?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, we got lost, just save.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Here's Bobby.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
That's happening.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Hey, no, buddy doing great? Refreshed after a grade Fourth
of July week, what you guys did? So we did
not go to Montana, but we stayed here. We had
four families come over. My girls had a few friends
come over and we we raged. I set up the
slipping slides with the little kiddie pools for bases. We

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played outdoor kickball, the parents versus kids. It was awesome
when swimming, barbecued, did burgers dogs, and then I got
a bunch of firewars and just let it rip?

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Did you go to a side of the highway tent
to get your fireworks?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
So I'm kind of in a great position here because
one of my buddies went to school with a guy
that owns one of those tents, and so he's able
to call and say, hey, this is you got a
guy who knows a guy, and he'll show up with
a boatload of fireworks and just rock and roll.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
We've had people shooting fireworks here for like five days.
It's really starting to burn me up because I have dogs.
Everybody has dogs. My dogs are really scared of fireworks.
Common July fourth, no problem, shoot them. We ben and
droll the dogs up so much. And we called our vet,
who's close French. He's like, it's fine, give them ben
a drill, especially if they're gonna like be a detriment

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to themselves, right, So he ben to droll them up.
And it's July fourth. Shoot all the fireworks you want.
Maybe a little annoying to me, but that's okay. I
can't tell you how to shoot July fifth, like ten pm,
go ahead and shut it down.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, I mean, i'd say the day before July fourth,
because you're kind of getting the excitement going. July fourth cool,
but after that it's over.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
And I would say it's fully over too, But I
don't want to be the guy that's, you know, got
us fist up the clouds, like, oh man, get off
my yard. So okay, ten pm, July fifth, that's fine.
They were still shooting one July sixth, No that's ridiculous.
It's how did you.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Not shoot them all?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
If you're that much into fireworks, how did you not
shoot them all on the fourth or even the fifth? Exactly? Yeah,
are you so passionate? I mean, have you taken in
rationed doubt your fireworks? Every day night.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
We're allowed to shoot this many and we're gonna save
these things and it's going to be ongoing.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
No, you have to cap it. And also it's like
we're in the city.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
I know, I was going to say, where are these
fireworks going on?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
You are in a very urban area.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, and they're going off every night.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
So yeah, death penalty, jail.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
But the dogs are still alive somewhat after five days
worth of Benezrael.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Like NonStop Vietnam to see you next week? It's like, yes,
and I don't.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Know what they think?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, what do they think the aliens are coming in?
Or again reminds me like Forest Gump and he goes
to Vietnam? Where bet me?

Speaker 4 (03:14):
So?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, we've been doing that. We did go see f one.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Have you seen that?

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I haven't yet? Is it great? I can't wait?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
And it reminds you that Brad Pitt's awesome.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'm a big Brad Pitt fan.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I forget how big of a Brad Pitt fan I
am until I'm reminded I'm a Brad Pitt fan by
watching what Brad Pitt does.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, and he always makes solid films as well.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
It's good, you'll like it.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I don't know much about racing, so I went in.
I know a little about NASCAR, but I mean very little.
Considering I grew up in Arkansas, I should know far more. Right,
never really was a NASCAR guy, so I know even
less about F one. I can name one racer that
Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
He wears a role, likes some both arms.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
While he drives, he wears no, no.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Going down the track. He's got to two roll.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
He look up his network. I think I looked at that.
But it's half a billion.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Dollars half a billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
As a race car driver. And so I know of him.
I'm not even sure if he's the best driver now,
but he consulted. He's in the movie, not with a part,
but they show him a little bit. It was really good.
And my wife, and she's the one who wanted to
go to the theater because I don't like going to
the movie theater. People are annoying. They have their phones up,
they're talking. It's like they're living their living rooms, just

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with a bigger screen in front of them. Yes, it's
like a little bit. You're in a place where don't
shoot fireworks and stop talking. And so it was okay.
The experience was okay.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Now every seat is like a recliner.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Those are so comfortable. I did see a movie this
week and it was drastic. I saw that too, Jurassic
World Rebirth. Jurassic suck is what I called it.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah. It didn't have much of a storyline, did it?

Speaker 4 (04:56):
And you could kind of just pick the people that
were gonna die immediately.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Because they didn't build their stories. There was noment.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
How about the guy chewing on the men early? I'm like, okay,
how long were we going to prolong this for?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Let's move on in the movie. Did you watch all
the Jurassic parks?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
No, I mean I going back to when it first
came out. I remember watching that and kind of being
amazed by all the special effects. But now it's just
this lingering storyline of how many people humans are dumb
enough to go try to see these dinosaurs and get kelt.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I watched the first one when I was younger. That
has to be young, like kid, kid, I know, that's
what I remember. Yeah, and then I never really jumped in.
I never saw the Chris Pratt versions of Jurassic Park.
But my wife, again for some reason, wanted to go
to the theater. We haven't been to the theater in years.
Again for the reasons I stayed it before. And we
went to watch F one first. And I didn't totally

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hate the experience because we were the only ones in
the theater for four people there. That's perfect, perfect, yes,
And so she's like, let's go again. Okay, I don't
have a bad experience. So we go watch Jurassic Park,
and and this guy wouldn't stop looking at girls on
his phone in front of me. It was crazy. He
wasn't a kid. He was like a fifty five year
old man with a family. And I guess he couldn't

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see what we could see, meaning he didn't know we
were at an angle we could see right on his phone.
First of all, when you have your phone up and
everything else is dark, it's like a little lighting bug.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yeah, and he's on barstool, probably looking at the girls
of the week or whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
He was on different Instagram accounts, just looking at but
it was like some.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Maybe he was picking an outfit out for his wife.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
No, it wasn't that at all. I'm telling you. The
guy was a weirdo and his kids and his family
didn't know he was a weirdo. But Jersey Park I
would say it was just fine. They spent a lot
of money on it. I thought Scarlet Johansson was pretty good.
But other than that, maybe I just am not investing
enough in dinosaurs.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah. The only reason I went was because both my
sons wanted to go and they were kind of into it,
and I was like, all right, let's go.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Like the opening day.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
They liked it just because of the dinosaurs and the
intensity of it. But what was crazy. I'm walking into
this theater. I'm saying, my oldest son is twelve, my
younger son is nine, so they're about at that age
where they can kind of grasp what's going on and
there's some violence to it. But as I'm walking into
the movie theater, I mean there's five year olds with

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their grandparents, six year olds like young kids. I'm going
I wonder how they absorb this. They're definitely not sleeping
that night like watching the violence of that movie, so maybe.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
They're not accepting it as violence. Maybe everything's a cartoon.
I don't remember being four, but maybe everything's a cartoon.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I don't remember a cartoon where it dide just gets
swallowed by the pterodactyl.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
You're so right, though, about movies, especially when they don't
invest a lot of time in the storyline. They didn't
build up the character development of certain characters. And I
don't think this is in any way a spoiler of
the movie, but just in general, how some of these
major motion pictures that have lots of booms and pops
and flashes, you know who's gonna die because they're doing

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nothing on a backstory. There's no emotional relationship with them.
They're just like a part of the A crew. And
some of the A crew has to die, right, and
it's a brain and you can pick them off and
this person's dying, Yeah, for sure, that.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Guy's gonna be a hero. This person's definitely not dying,
but all four other of those people definitely dying.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's that weird time too, where there's nothing happening in sports.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
I know, you've got baseball season just kind of going along.
And if you watch baseball and you've got a team
that's that's awesome, and then you'll tune in. But there's
so many games that there's not a ton of relevance.
Each game doesn't matter that much right now, and then
all the other sports are kind of not really going
on until you're waiting for a good, good golf tournament

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or something like that. Like you're just kind of limbo.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
And this is I think the worst time for baseball
because it's right before the All Star break, so it's
not even the second half of the season. It's not
the beginning of baseball season, which is fun and exciting
because everybody's in right And I'm a Cubs fan, and
I thought we may be about five hundred.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
I think as of today we're like fourteen over.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Are you really?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, it's been great, like Pete Crow Armstrong has been
outam his mind, so and you're excited about the scond
half of the season, but like leading up to the
All Star Game, you're just like, in other than free
agency basketball free agency, there's nothing going on. I am
going down to Atlanta this weekend to play in the
Home Run DERBYX at All Star Weekend.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
So, yeah, we're gonna see how many homewns I can hit.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Have you been practicing.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I've yes, in that I need to learn why I
probably am gonna suck, so I cannot suck. So have
I gotten to a point to where I can reidentify
my ceiling? No, but I have found many flaws in
my swing because I've been to the cages and then
I went.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
To the trophy.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
You've actually been to the cages?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, well yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
I went with a buddy of mine.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And then I went to the TRIAA team here in town,
the Nashville sound. Yeah, it sounds. And I got in
the cage and hit with them and took some ground
balls and.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Oh, so you're prepping, You're ready to roll.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm not ready to roll, but I am prepping. This
is my point, like, I'm not to where I can
work on my swing that I'm going to hit more
home runs. But what I can do is eliminate some
of the things that are keeping me from hitting home
runs to give me a better shot.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
How many you think? How many thinks you could hit
let's let's ballpark it.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I don't know, because this game is a bit different
because you're on a stage and there are targets in
the outfield.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Oh so it's a bit different than like the.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Big home run derby where Puhos and Bo Jackson and
all these guests go up and rip normally. This is
like a team sport. You a major leaguer and another player,
and you're against teams. I don't know. I've I think
it'll be fun. I have blisters all over my hands
because when you haven't slung a bat or a golf club,
either one, and you get back into it, your hands

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are ripped up.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
But I've been in a baseball like.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I hit softball, and I played in the Celebrity Softball
game last year. I don't know if you remember one MVP. MVP,
but that's slow pitch softball. I've not hit in twenty years.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Different animal, and it actually gives you the perspective when
you go and actually hit baseball again, how skilled these
guys are.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
It looks like a p it's a pee flying at you.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
And then you watch these major league games and nobody
throws less than ninety seven miles an hour. Now, and
they've got a ninety one mile per hour slider and
they've got multiple pitches. I'm going man, these hitters, they
make their money for sure.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's not even crazy when someone throws over one hundred anymore.
It used to be mind blowing of someone hit triple
digits like Otani through two innings of the night. Yeah,
and hit one o two twice one two one two.
And that's not even the guy that is known for
having the most gas.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
So I'm gonna go do that. It'll be fun, it'll
be a blast.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's weirder though, as you get older, me and me specifically,
because when you're a kid and you're twelve, these players
are like heroes and adult men that you're like, wow,
one day if I can meet them, or and then
once you get to be of age, you're like, okay,
this is cool.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
It's a really hot.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
But when you get older than them, you're like, man,
you're just a kid. You got to you got too
much money right now, you just look at it a
bit different.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Whose jersey are you gonna wear?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, So they asked what my team was, and I'm
a Chicago Cups fan. My favorite player ever is Mark
Grace and they didn't say it had to be Do
you know Mark? I know Mark?

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Do you know him personally?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
No? Oh, any time, Like I've never met him.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
I have like a like.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's not what do you call it bucket list, it's
not a bucket list because I don't plan to die.
But I have three people that I've never met that
are on my list of these are my favorite people
in the world in entertainment that I still haven't met.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
And it'll be Mark Grace.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And he's like the Diamondbacks analysts. Now is he really Yeah?
He played with them, won World Series with him. Yeah,
but I'm for me. He was first basement of the
Cups number seventeen. It's Sting the wrestler.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Do you know him?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
No? Okay, And it's David Letterman. And if you're like,
that's my cousin, David Letterman.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
I would No, I know David Letterman's your d that's
my hero.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah he's yeah, never ever read him, but I'll probably
wear a Mark Grace jersey. Yes, if that's the situation,
because they were like whose favorite team, whose favorite player? Yeah,
So let's rock it a deal, let's rock it for sure.
And the rule is we made this role on this show.
If you're an adult man, you don't wear the jersey
of another adult man that's younger than you.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
That's exactly right. They have to be got to be
older than you, older than you, and only sporting events.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
And that means if you're sixty three, you could, but
you can wear to Hank Aaron jersey. Yes, if you're
they're a jersey that We've had the sport long enough
now that you can find jerseys and people older than you.
So that's the plan this weekend. As long as I
don't get injured, you're.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Not getting injured. You're dropping bombs left side of plate.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
The problem is though they they take in the outfit,
they pull the wall in a bit and they shut
off the sides a bit. So I'm a big pool
hitter because I don't really have the capability to. Yeah,
I'm gonna pull them voully crazy.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Oh you're gonna be jacked up to the adrenals gonna
be going and you're gonna be like quick jacked up.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
So yeah, I been been doing that to use a
wooden bat too, don't forget that. Yeah, in the cage.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
That's a different use the metal bat.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
We did use a wooden bat a team this week,
and it does obviously take a little distance off. But
wouldn't bats have come a long way since we were kids?

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Voice? Oh man, have they ever mean they? What's the
one with the Yankees? Is the one that they the torpedo.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
I didn't get to use one of those.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
We should get you one made.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, I show up torpedo.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
That would be fun.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
That would definitely be a flex.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
You ever almost been in a plane crash?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
You know, I've had one crazy instance. And we're flying
from California and I would rarely fly private, but sometimes
with the family was going back to the destination of
the city that I was playing, We're going to Buffalo.
I would take the whole family because my kids were young.
It was much easier than putting four car seats on

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the plane and doing all that stuff. So we took
off from l A and we're probably about hour in
and the pilot comes on and says, hey, everybody needs
the buckle up. We're just gonna have to land and
just calm as can be. And when I was going
what and he goes, everybody just stay calm, we're just
gonna have to land here in a moment. So as
we're coming in, like I said, we're an hour fifteen

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into this flight, they are landing the plane in Out
the window, you can see nothing but ambulances, firetruck, all
this stuff waiting for our plane, for our plane to land.
So as soon as we land, they jump out of
the seat, they park, the park the plane, and they
immediately shuffle us off. They come screaming on all these

(15:44):
different emergency personnel, come on check the plane. I guess
in the back of the engine a light went off
that said our engine was on fire. So the emergency land.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Luckily they didn't tell you that way.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
They didn't tell us that because they don't want everybody
to panic and do all this stuff. So we literally
sat there at that airport for two and a half
hours while they're doing all the investigation work and making
sure that it was not a fire but at the
same time a false alarm. And then they had us
get back on that plane. Oh, same plane, that's what
I said. Heck no, I said, wait, you guys are

(16:17):
going to send another plane. We don't have any in
the area. This, that and the other We're in the
middle of nowhere. I was like, so you want us
to get back on this same plane that you emergency
land and all this just took place. My family's traumatized.
My wife's like sitting there holding the baby like on
the way down, like what's going on? And I'm going,
uh So we got back on the plane. That was

(16:38):
probably the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life,
but we made it.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
We're you nervous getting back on what it was taking?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Hell yes, every moment? How about you?

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Uh No? And I don't want to jink myself.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I've been in a couple heavy turbulent situations, but no,
I've been. Okay, we we've been. I hate to even
say that. And I don't believe in the jinks, but
I definitely am respectful of it. I don't believe in it,
but I'm respectful.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Of the jinks.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
You gotta he's respectful of them.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I bring it up, and especially if there was a
I guess this happened today. This airport had to halt
all operations after one of the people that was working
was sucked into the engine. Ah on the tarmac. That's awful, crazy,
a tragic incident at the airport on Tuesday, July eighth,
which is when we record the show, come said on

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Wednesday's but we record Tuesday afternoon led to the fatal
injury of a thirty five year old man who was
reportedly sucked into the engine of an Airbus A three nineteen.
To me, that means nothing as far as that plane.
I don't know an airbus, but I looked at the picture.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
It just looks like a big plane that we would
take at the airport.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Oh my gosh. So it was taxing for takeoff. The individual,
who was not a passenger, and it also says was
not airport staff, breached security by entering the restricted area
near the terminal and running onto the taxiway. It happened
around ten twenty am local time. It prompted the immediate

(18:05):
suspension of all flight operations at the airport. So the guy,
I guess got through ran out. I don't know why
it ran out. It definitely wasn't to get sucked in
the engine and then got sucked in the engine. It
has that kind of those have that kind of power
capability to suck you up into the engine. That's crazy. Gosh.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Yes, there was another story I was seeing too, where it's.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Like the people that jump over the fence at the zoo.
Oh yeah, you're just like, why.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
What do you think was gonna happen? You got mauled
by a tiger? He can jump the fence. There was
a store here in the States and maybe Chicago where
the guy pulled up to the gate and it was
like he was like Uber eats, but somebody from the
airport inside it ordered the Uber Eats. The guy went
to the wrong place and the person that was working

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by the gate on the outside thought it was okay
because he had food and somebody must have ordered it
from inside. And the guy ends up on the freaking
tarmac with and he wasn't doing it on purpose.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
He wasn't like.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
This guy scaling a fence. He went to take the
food to the people that had ordered it, but they
were inside, and he thought he would get there by
driving outside, and then the person led him through.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
That guy gets five stars five.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
So many things went wrong with that, Like everything does happen?
And how does the person inside the airport think they're
actually going to get the food? Even if he does
get out of his car because he has to go
through security. And you don't get to go through security
at the airport if you just have a bag of food.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, the security guard must have been hungry. He's like,
I get it. You know what. There's days where I
wish that I would just order food to the tarmac.
And I'm gonna let you through right now, and I'm
going to see if you can achieve your goal of
delivering this food.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Maybe got a nugget out of it or something.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Definitely, security guards get fired.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, crazy, he got all the way through.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
The other one was there was one other airport story. Yeah,
I lost it, lost it.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
That happens when you get old. Not only do your
hands after.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Hitting balls some good blisters over there, so coming callous.
So no batting gloves for you, old school.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
No, I wear batting gloves.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
And I still oh you still got it, sweet little hand.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeesitive skin a little hant.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
All right, we're gonna take a break, come back and
talk college football and NFL rivalries, and then we're also
going to talk about the best running backs in the
NFL today. All right, back in a second, All right,

(20:40):
Kevin's gonna do which quarterback is older? What's interesting about
the ages of quarterbacks is that we feel like some
aer older because they've.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Been in a league longer.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yes, same thing as basketball players, like if a kid
comes out as a junior but one left as a freshman,
that happens where you're like, oh, he's no so much older,
and it's not he's been in the league longer. So
you have explained this to us here.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, I have seven tandem quarterbacks, so fourteen all together.
Have one go against the other and ask you guys,
and together you figure it out whether quarterback A or
quarterback B is older?

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Okay, so which one?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
So example is Rogers or Flacco, which one's older?

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I saw this. It's unfair because I saw.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
This, but it's an example. It's not it's not on
the list yet. I got seven more after this.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
But I forgot this is I saw them talking about this.
I think Rogers is a one year older, correct.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I was gonna say he's forty one one and forty right.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, So they're all within a year, within a
few months. Okay, go ahead, Okay, and like I said,
you guys go together on this, collaborate and see you
can get it.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Number one Jared Goff or Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
I'm gonna have no, I have no reference point.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I'm going Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Sure, I went Matt Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
How old are they six months older?

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Oh, they're so cless the same.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
It's if I mean part of the year, for half
the year, they're the same age.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, there you goes.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
I mean, come on, give us, give us a little bit.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, gives you wants to have picked the month?

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Who are we supposed to know when they're born?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
April November April one May? All right, go ahead, gives
another one?

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Okay, Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
I'm going Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I'm gonna go Patrick Mahomes. Oh we didn't work together
on that one. No, but it looks like within a
year it's the same.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
I know this is another three months apart.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, what do you got?

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (22:29):
It is Patrick Mahomes is nine months Okay, all right,
go ahead, Okay. Then you got Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Joe Burrows older.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, Well, Lamar came out when he's like twenty. The
only thing I rememberbout Lamar coming out is that he
got drafted at the very end of that first round,
and also Baltimore traded up to get him.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Joe Burrow played five years in college. Lamar played three
and left early. I'm gonna go with Joe Burrow by
a month.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'm gonna go Joe Burrow by six hours. Like they
came ripping out of their mother's wound.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Castle is on money, jump bur of the month old.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
There, thank you. Oh my goodness, this is a great
I mean really, let mean talk about.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay, give us one more.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Okay, here's the here's the last one that could be
a pune one. Tyler Shuck, you know, the rookie for
the Saints or bow Knicks.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
So I think because you asked it. And also I
think that they played on the same team for a minute.
I think Shuck was at Oregon when bow Knicks was
at right now, but Shuck was at Oregon. Boenix wasn't
at Oregon. Ye, Bonis went to orgon same team. I
think they both played for Oregon because Shuck was there
when Marcus Mariota was still the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, he did play together at They did play together.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Yeah, so I was wrong about the Mariota thing.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Then Shuck also had a lot of injuries medical, Yeah,
he was hurt. Yeah, and bow Knicks is definitely thirty. Yeah,
he's not that old. Okay, we gotta go.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
Nick's just got his medicare taken away.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
But Tyler Shuck hasn't beat Uh yeah, I would have
guess Shuck.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Did Schuck play with Mariota?

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Was he the quarterback? Because Chuck went from Oregon? Wait,
he's Oregon Texas Tech and then last year Louisville, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Because he started at Oregon in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Atual he was who's the other quarterback I'm thinking about? Oh,
I'm not thinking I'm thinking about Herbert?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Oh yeah, justin Herbert.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, Herbert.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Who I'm thinking about? Maria?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I think he was there when Herbert was there.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Actually, Shuck started in eighteen with Oregon, so yeah, he
was definitely there when Herbert was there.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Hold on, he started in eighteen and just got drafted
like his.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Career started in eighteen. Yeah, he didn't necessarily play.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
If he got a redshir and then a medical red
show and he had the COVID year.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Dude's fifty one.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yeah, wow, Yeah, that's mature. Are you going to do
your job this year is yes, college college football is
coming up?

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Man, what is that official role?

Speaker 4 (24:58):
So I do the pregame and I get to go
to the side of the game. I get to interview
coaches and players and and we give our pregame segments.
They're on the field, so it's kind of cool. You're
part of the environment and at the side of the game.
And so it's fun of what game the game of
the week, So we have the big Saturday Night is

(25:19):
what we call it. Yeah, Big ten for NBC. So
it's fun. We had, like last year, one of the
great games that we had was the first organ Ohio
State game in Eugene. It was a great game. So
you get to go to all these different stadiums and
you're just enthralled in the environment and everything else. And
you also your boots on the ground. So you get
to talk to these coaches in the production meetings and

(25:40):
hear what they have to say in the matchups and
everything else, and we get to go kind of give
you the insight and lead you into the game.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Let's go. Did they ever tell you anything in the
production meetings that actually pays off? Whenever you're talking about
the game, you know.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
What you get a lot in those production meetings because
the coaches are a lot more open. They know that
we're just trying to tell their story. But when you
ask about specific matchups or where they're trying to take
advantage or scheme right, how do you match up and
what do you have to do in this game, they're
pretty they're pretty right on of what takes place in
the game. If they achieve these three things, then they're

(26:16):
going to have success. If they don't, then they are
going to have a long day at the office or
they're going to struggle.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Well, they tell you we plan to run the ball
over twenty five times something like that, to.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Where if no, it's probably a little bit more vague
than that, more and more like we need to establish
the run in the line of scrimmage. We'll know right
like everybody needs to do that in the run game.
But some of it can be we don't know if
this player is going to go, So it could be
a defensive end, it could be somebody that's going to
play a pretty adequate role in their success, and they
might be banged up. And sometimes certain coaches like Brett

(26:47):
Bielima is like, yeah, he's not going to go, and
we won't let that really out of the bag until
right before because they got to come out and play
the game.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
So you will keep it tight, keep it tight.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
But we're thirty We have a thirty minute pregame show
leading up to the game. Okay, by day before, we're
not doing it the day before. We're on site at
the game. Stadiums raging got it okay that they could
allow Yeah, make sause at that point. At that point,
you already know he didn't come out for warm ups.
So that's a piece of information we can use leading

(27:17):
up to the game, like we didn't see him in
warmups out here, and we don't think he's gonna go,
and that could have a significant impact on this game.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
How'd you get that job? You know?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
It was crazy. I went to the Super Bowl one
year and I was doing some things down there. My
agent introduced me to the.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
What does that mean you were doing something the Super Bowl, like.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Some appearances and stuff like that. Yeah, And so I
went down there and then at that point I met
some people from NBC and we had a discussion and
it was more of a light light interview, and then
from there I got a call to go to New
York and meet with the head doog, Sam Flood, and
we sat down, we had lunch and just had a

(27:56):
discussion and he wanted to get to know me, and
at that point, a few days later they offered me
the job, and I was pretty stoked about it.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
So do you have to do any like television training?
Do you stand in front of a camera?

Speaker 4 (28:09):
No, there was none of that. There's none of that
because well, prior to that, I was working with NBC
Sports Boston. I did some stuff for Good Morning Football,
and so I had been doing certain roles on television,
so they had watched and then they have coaches that
will kind of talk to you about what their vision
is for how they want you to present and do

(28:29):
all that, and just give you little pointers here and there.
But for the most part, you kind of hit the
ground running, and it was a little bit intimidate our
first game out of the box. I was actually on
the studio desk at first, but we would go to
the side of the game and it's Penn State opening
weekend against West Virginia, and I mean there's one hundred
thousand people. You can't even hear yourself. I didn't have

(28:50):
the right ears in we had one ear instead of
the ones that like block out the noise and we're
scrambling through highlights. At halftime, we had filled time. I'm
going what is going on? My head was spinning every
which way. But then as you get into a rhythm
of what to expect, it's not moving a million miles
a minute. You're kind of now more into a rhythm.

(29:10):
So it took a few games there to just kind
of get your bearings about yourself.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
The big tim's wild because geographically you could be anywhere
in the country, anywhere, because there's not like a section anymore,
because you could be in California, you could be in
the Midwell, you could be in Rutgers, you could be
in New Jersey, Oh.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Oregon's playing Rutgers last year.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
I mean, it's absolutely wild to think, especially to travel
for the West Coast teams East Coast. I think UCLA
had the most travel miles of any team in college
football last year, but they had Rutgers. I think they
played Illinois. I mean, it's wild to think about these
schedules for these young men that are going to travel
to play these games.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
We're gonna put you on the spot and not the best,
but who are your favorite?

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Give me your top.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Three coaches that you have spent time with in that
job that's like, you know they're going to give you
good stuff and it can either be stuff that is
about football or just like right personalities. But give me
your top three coaches that you love to deal.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
With, Love to deal with. Brett Bielima, He's awesome dude.
He is an awesome dude, and he's full ball coach,
but very transparent in his information. He's not going to bully,
you're not going to run you around, but just the
guy that you want to go have a beer with.
He's number one. Kirk Farence for Iowa. Just one of
the most salt of the earth humans that you'll ever

(30:30):
meet and very honest, very true to his word. Dan
Lanning's awesome guy to hang around with. He's just got
this magnetic energy to him and he brings in intensity. However,
he did we did ask him about a player and
he didn't let us know that he wasn't going so
we had to figure that out on the field. So
I was a little little hurt by that. Come on, Danny,

(30:52):
give me a little bit, but give me give me
the information beforehand so I can help you out.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
That's only three. You can't do anymore than you're like
being too diplomatic. Okay, could you do that? Because you're
a really nice guy. So you want to include everybody?

Speaker 4 (31:02):
You know, I don't want to include it.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
You were you were about to include more people though
true of us? I was used, wasn't he was?

Speaker 4 (31:10):
There was one more?

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Okay, who's your honorable engine?

Speaker 4 (31:13):
There you go, Ryan Day. I got to go spend
time with him at spring ball this year and we
got to sit down, and he's probably in a different
position now than he won the national championship, but every
time we go there, he's he's got an open door policy.
He sits down with us, gives us time and give
us some great information about just what's going on with
their quarterback situation, the outlook of their team now that

(31:35):
they lost so many different players this year. So I
really like Ryan Day and I think he's a really
good ball coach.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
What is your relationship with the USC football program?

Speaker 4 (31:46):
So obviously living in Tennessee, I don't get out as much,
but when I see Lincoln Riley, like in a few
weeks from now, where I'm about to go out to
the Big Ten media days and I'll get to spend
some time with him. And look, I'm always cheering for us.
See that's my alm or mater. But I'm just not
as involved as I used to be, Like every off
season I would go back and train there early on

(32:08):
in my career and be more present and be around.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I'm just not as around the program as much right now.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
Do you have any relationship with Lincoln at all?

Speaker 4 (32:16):
No, just when I see him, to be honest with you,
I mean, it feels awkward for me to reach out
to people that I haven't had a previous relationship with
and just kind of try to get involved in the program,
to be involved in the program. I know he's running
his program how he wants to run it, and he's
doing a good job. But at the end of the day,
for me doing an okay job, he's definitely got to
step up. He's got to step up to share. I mean,

(32:43):
he had to rebuild a lot when he got there.
But yes, if you're a USC fan and a Trojan fan,
you're like, but we got to get this thing going now.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, he's making a lot of money, a lot of
money and he needs to win some games. Yeah, and
he's given over control of his defense, meaning he's an
offensive coach. And he had the same guy with him
at Oklahoma when they struggled defensively at USC. Now they've
made some changes and I think defensively they can probably
write that ship a bit.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
But it's going to be interesting now with what.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
NIL is allowing teams to do, which is the revenue sharing,
So everybody has a chance now to get some good players.
There are going to be some instances where teams that
were making all them are using all the money from
collectives can still find strategic ways to use that money
to supplement their iniol right exactly. But it does give
these power for programs a chance to at least get

(33:37):
some good players.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Now there's a Purdue.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Helmet in front of us, and I have no relationship
with Purdue the school other than Drew Brees went to
school there, and I like Drew and you know, he
went to high school in Austin whenever we were living
down there, and he was a great high school player.
But I don't have any Purdue Zach Edy, you know, like,
what do I know about Purdue? But one of my

(33:59):
friends and now the head football coach there. And so
he came down a couple weeks ago and went to
the Grandal Opry they called it today. I'm coming down
and think about taking my daughter to the opry?

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Is this fun? His daughter's birthday? And I was like, yeah,
not only.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
That, Like why are you guys coming down?

Speaker 5 (34:12):
He was like, well, she's a big Landy Wilson fan.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I was like, I know Lanny, So I'll meet you
guys at the Opry and I'll take you back.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
And that's sweet, and I'll there was.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
One of my friends meeting another one of my friends,
and Landy's awesome. And I've known Lanny but way before
she got famous. And so.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
I went.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And I kind of have a relationship with the opry
where they just kind of don't care.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
I can come and go as I want. I used
to host the TV show during COVID.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I hosted the whole time, and I've performed there about
twenty times, and so I go, it's a lot. Yeah,
I'm I'm gonna get in the eighteenth. I think I
can't really say what else.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
I can tell you off again, I can tell you after,
but before me again.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
On the eighteenth but so they came and while they
were his daughter was talking with Landy. I was just
talking to him about NIL and he just took the job.
He was at un LV last year and he turned
that program around and he was like, you know, the administration,
they're being very generous within IL. Everybody kind of has
a shot now because we have a slice of the revenue,

(35:11):
right and a lot of these teams that did not
have a chance now at least has sort of a chance.
And then the Big ten. The schedule is such because
there's so many teams in Indiana last year had a
LUCKI they did nothing wrong, right, So they won every game.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
That was put in front of them.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Oh, crushed it.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yes, And they were getting a bunch of crap because
they were really highly rated without having lost a game. Well,
they ran into a bus all with Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Right, Ohio State. But if you think about you take
away the punt return in the beginning of the game
that changed it to twenty one something. It's fourteen to
seven close to the end of the half, and then
they just blew up.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
But I mean even then, they won every game, and
you can't really fault them for winning every game.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
No, they shouldn't have apologized for it. And he was
saying that too.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
In the Big Ten, there are years where some of
these teams are going to have really brutal schedules because
they're going to get matched up with Oregon, Ohio State, Michigan,
and Good Michigan. And there are going to be years
where you don't know until you're actually in the season,
like Indiana got last year, where I think Michigan was
thought of to be a little better until that year
happened right where so you know, he was like, you

(36:17):
have a pretty tough schedule next year, but he took
that job. And when you mentioned the Big Ten, because
I think now everybody kind of has a fighting chance.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Well, that's the most amazing part about college athletics now
is these schools like you said that didn't have a
fighting chance before because they couldn't recruit and they couldn't
pay players. But the teams like Indiana or Purdue can
turn their program around rapidly based on the fact that
they get a blue chipper and they bring in this
guy and they can go into the transfer portal and
supplement it, just like Indiana did last year where they

(36:47):
brought in I think fourteen guys or something, all of
his old guys.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
I'm you yeah, from James Madison.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
James Madison, and so those guys knew the program, were
part of a winning culture and were able to help
facilitate that in the locker room on the field, and
then they picked up where they left off and that's
what gave them the ability to go out and win
games and win games early. Weren't learning a new system,
but they were a team that went out, played hard,
knew what was to be expected, favorable schedule, had a
favorable schedule, and it was similar to Penn State. Last year.

(37:14):
Penn State played Ohio State, but they didn't play Oregon,
they didn't play Michigan, and so you're at the mercy
of your schedule at times. But at the same time,
these teams and those coaches that always felt like they
played a backseat to these larger programs, which still do
a degree they do, now have the ability to go
out and get guys to come in to fill their roster,
fill needs in spots right away.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
True Allers probably gonna be awesome this year.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Oh, he's a stud man. I mean I've seen him
in person multiple times. He's a great kid. He's a
big old boy, big boy six', five got an absolute
cannon for an. Arm he's got good enough. Mobility he's
not going to kill you with your, legs but that's
not his. Deal he can throw the ball with pinpoint,
accuracy make every. Throw he's got AN nfl caliber. Arm
and they went out and finally put some money into

(37:58):
that wide receiver. Position they got three guys that just came,
in so now that's always been their biggest. Thing they've
been able to run the ball and and they've got
two really good running, backs but they just haven't had
the horses on the. Outside and now that they, do
it'll be really interesting BECAUSE i think this could be
a year That Penn state finally makes that.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Push it would be nice to See James franklin win
The Big, game just so people stop talking about how
he can't in The Big.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Game it's like nauseating to listen to because he's absolutely.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Capable he's a great, coach, right it would be nice
for him to shut that narrative down just for the
sake of that's all people want to talk about right.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Now it's every year until he does, it and it's
difficult to be a program of that stature and win
on such a consistent, basis but not be able to
win That Ohio state game or That michigan, game because
that's all that the fans are talking. About And i'll
tell you, this last YEAR i thought was their opportunity
to go to the national, championship just based on they

(38:54):
had a favorable playoff schedule as well and the fact
that they weren't able to get it. Done they've got
a better team coming back this, year so it'll be.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Interesting it's interesting all the big name quarterbacks going into
this year because like cade Club nick At Clemson, wimson he's,

(39:23):
STUT i, mean and he played really well Against. Texas
they ended up losing that game obviously in the, playoff
but he's also From.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Austin Arch manning At.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Texas it'll be interesting to see, because like Fine baum
was talking, about Arch manning is the best college quarterback
he's seen Since. Tebow and you wonder if he would
say that if his last name Wasn't, manning because he.
Does look because he started what two GAMES i think last.
YEAR i could be off again.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Against sisters of The.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Pool, yes but again again there's an, injury he's called.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
In you see the skill set, man.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
But also he runs like a. Deer oh my, gosh.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
He has not gotten manning. PEDIGREE i was, like what
is going on right? Now this dude can.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Run he did not have the white man.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Governor most white people can only run certain fast like
white large quarterbacks can only. Run but, no he could.
Run the boy can. Scoot and then LSU's quarterback who
may go number one overall nes S.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Meyer, yeah, yeah he's a stud, Too SO i mean
it is a very quarterback heavy draft. Class if all
these guys decided to come out and really talented and
also guys that have played a lot of, Football so
you've got a lot of film and a lot of
understanding for who these guys. Are but they've been in elite,
programs played a lot of, football and that's outside Of.

(40:35):
Arch arch has to go out and prove it this.
Year but they've got a hell of a team around,
him And i'm sure he.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
WILL i THINK i like a bit of the newest
version OF. NIL i do like the players are staying,
longer like we're talking, about because they in football different
than basketball because you have to be three years in,
football you can red shirt and leave after your sophomore
year if you read shirt your freshman, year but you
can still. LEAVE i think these quarterbacks are we'll, say
beneficiaries of nil that kept them in college. Longer.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
RIGHT i like what they're doing with the revenue.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Sharing if we could only change the transfer portal rule
like you got on one time one, TRANSFER.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
I agree with, you unless there's a circumstance where your
coach has changed that could give you a second opportunity
to transfer. Again but also the transfer windows one right after, season,
one right after. SPRING i don't think they've got to
take the spring portal.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Out did they change? That did there recently go to one?
Window did you guys see.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
That maybe starting next year BECAUSE i think so many
big just transferred after the spring.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Game, yeah take a look at.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
It BUT i agree there are too many.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Windows too many, Windows and how do you as a.
Coach you're trying to get your roster, together your team put.
Together you're relying on this Guy you've gone through all
of spring ball and this is basically revving up a
month or two away from going to training, camp and
then that guy hits the transfer portal and you've got
you've got a hole in your offensive, line your defensive.
Line it could be.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Anywhere we saw that With Penn state when their backup
QUARTERBACK hm left as they were going into a bowl,
game which is not A bawl, game which is the, playoff,
right the?

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Playoff?

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Yeah two, windows by the, way two.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Windows, yeah so one From december To january and then
mid to Late.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
April and has there been any change in it or
was it just a proposed change THAT i saw.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
A couple that's just an updated.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
One all, right good.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
Deal, uh let's talk college football.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Rivalries IF i were to, say we'll say it at
the same time so we don't convince each. Other, okay
what is the number one rivalry in college football in your? Mind,
okay are you? Ready just say one team And i'll
say one?

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Team? Ready? One? Two?

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Three? Oh, okay you go.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
First, OH i Say michigan the.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
GAME i can't argue with, that BUT i, mean you've.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Got two national champions the last two.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Years and, YEAH i such recency, answer recency, answer but
it still goes way back this.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
RIVALRY i. Agree there is a full and utter hatred
between the fan bases for the opposing team and you
think About Ohio. State they go and win the national
championship and they're still pretty bitter about. Losing they got
beat By michigan and they've lost four straight And Ryan,
day you, know midway after they lost last. Year so

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many people are calling for his, name for his, job
all the different. Stuff if you look at that guy's,
RECORD i, mean in the consistency of winning, football but
it comes down to one game for these fan, bases
and it's wild the amount of animosity that they have in.
HATRED i, MEAN i went Into Ohio state's building and
they have a clock on the wall that's counting down

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the days and the hours and the minutes and the
seconds to The michigan. Game it's not the schedule of
the football. Season it is a clock that is dedicated
just to That michigan game and it's already. Started it's.
Wild i've never seen anything like.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
It and they don't use the Letter and, YEAH i
would have put that at. Two AND i think the
REASON i would have Put Oklahoma texas.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
At One Red river.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Shootout, Baby, yeah it's just is a geographical bias and
being From arkansas and at one time playing It south
was conference With texas and my.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Wife's no you, fan BUT i would have thought that even,
before like our.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Family but they played that game in the same neutral
stadium every, year which makes that very. Interesting it does
because half the side is whatever Color oklahoma is whatever
version Of i'm, colorblind SO i don't say that as an.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
Insult what Colors oklahoma maroon?

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Ish, yeah, yeah, yeah that's.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Close, yeah, maroon and then puke is the other, color
And i'm not color blind In, texas that just looks
like puke puk.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Orange, yes, yeah it's a burnt.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Orange. Yes and the fact they played that game in the. Middle,
yes although the cotton ball. Sucks it's the. Worst it
is a it's the dumpiest of. DUMPS i, mean as
An arkansas, fan we've Played bowl games And i've been
there and that was ten years ago and it was awful. Then,
yes and it hasn't changed and yeah they So, GEOGRAPHICALLY

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i would put that as my number one. Rivalry at,
TWO i would Put Michigan Ohio. State But i've had
to learn about that later in. Life well that's.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
A Hard that's the hard part about rivalries is it's all, regional,
right and it's where you grew up where your loyalties
lie and at the same, time what's meaningful to you
and at any any place in the. Country you could
go somewhere else and they would pick three other top
rivalry games that would consist of probably just as interesting

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history and rivalry and everything else that goes along with.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
It who would you put it two in?

Speaker 4 (45:29):
YOURS i was going to go With Oklahoma Texas Red
River show.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Shootout you know they don't call it that, Anymore well they.
Should it's even harder.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
To, say what is it called?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Now Red river? Rivalry oh try it Red river.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
RIVALRY i couldn't say, that couldn't shoot.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Didn't even say. Shootout, okay you want to do the
sure number, one number three on the?

Speaker 4 (45:54):
List are we doing it on three?

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Again you, Know i'm not going to take yours BECAUSE
i already ain't no mind who's.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yours i'd go With Army. Navy and the REASON i say,
THAT i got to to go To West point last
year At army and they're Playing Notre dame In Yankee.
Stadium it's a huge that's a rivalry in, itself, Right
and we were asking them kind of about the, rivalry the, history, this,
that and the other not one of the, players one
of the coaches. Blinked they, said it doesn't hold a.

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Candle and when you walk around their, facilities, everything all the,
signage every every different phrase is all about Beat, navy
and they are dedicated to. That and it's the biggest,
game it's their Super, bowl it's pride on the, line It's,
america AND i just think that the history goes way.
Back but after being there and experiencing it and being

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consumed by it a little, BIT i was, like, oh love,
It Army.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Navy, kevin who'd you prep?

Speaker 3 (46:49):
THERE i gotta Go Alabama.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Auburn that was my third, One AND i, think, again
it's definitely geographical, bias sec bias, Too but even in
our lifetime we've seen some crazy finishes and that what
WHEN i was thinking about, it like the field, goal the.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
The that's the best Game i've ever seen in my.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Life craziest Thing i've ever. Seen it might be the
craziest single Moment i've ever seen in collegiate. Sports like
to win the.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Game, yes that was absolutely. Insanity and So.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I'm glad you said that BECAUSE i was gonna go.
Out it's another one close to. Home you like, Sad,
yeah because all of mine are LIKE i can reach.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
Out and touch.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Them. Yeah the only other one THAT i thought that
was my honorable mention was going to Be Georgia florida
when they do that.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
And they meet in the middle there.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Too, yes the.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Biggest cocktail the world's largest cocktail party whatever they call.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
That, whatever fun one to go.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
To, yeah it's JUST i don't love neutral site games generally,
speaking BECAUSE i feel like a lot is, lost like
the normal fan. Infrastructure And i'll Say, Arkansas, TEXAS a
AND m had played every year At Jerry's world In
dallas for many.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
YEARS i hated.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
IT i hated because it just felt so. Generic Jerry's
world is, awesome The Dallas Cowboy.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
Stadium it's.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Unbelievable, yes still and it's, been.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
But there's something to be said about home. Field, Yes and.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
LIKE i wanted to go To, Texas obama have to like.
Suffer you should have to suffer whenever you're the away.
Team that's part of what makes college really cool is
that you freaking suffer egg BALLS aso on my LIST
sec But. MISSISSIPPI i say this Like arkansas because this
Is hillbilly on hillbilly. Crime mississippi ain't got. Crap it's Like.

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Arkansas we don't have. Anything we have a college, team
we don't have any. Sports missip doesn't have any, sports
any pro sports, Either so it's All mississippi Or Misissippi,
state just like almost Like alabama And. Auburn those two
schools are bigger, though The Mississippi Ole miss And Mississippi.
State but In, mississippi like they hate each, other and
there is a complex if you are A Mississippi state

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bulldog Because Ole miss people think they're way better Than
Missippi state.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
People, Really oh, yeah because most of.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Course like higher, class right, yeah Like starkville versus Ox Form.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
And what do they call the area right outside the
stadium In Oxford.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Now they have like chandeliers in their Post.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
I've heard that it's.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Awesome it, sucks it's, awesome but, yeah it, sucks but it's. Awesome,
okay how about this, Matter DAME, USC i have no
relationship with that. Rivalry about, relationship, yes you tell me
is that.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
It's an unbelievable rivalry and it takes place obviously every,
year and it's home and home. Series it's been going on.
Forever But the thing, is we always scheduled that, GAME
i think in Early october when we go To Notre
dame just because of the cold. Weather but when they come,
out it's like the last game of the, season when
they're AT. USC i, mean come, on it's something, yeah

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one hundred, percent but it's a fantastic rivalry with a
ton of.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
History we'll come back and talk ABOUT nfl rivalry we're doing.
Next let's TALK nfl.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Rivalries let's do what we did a minute.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Ago CURRENT nfl. Rivalries i'm guessing all, time all. Time, well,
yeah but they still. Exist how about some current. Ones that's, fine,
great BUT i think teams in college don't have to
be good for the. Rivalries it don't. Matter so what
Do you can just pick one and you can explain
to me why we're not on the same wavelength here?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Ready?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
One?

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Two?

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Three cowboys chief. Spells, okay so yours is more of?
THEM a Home's Josh allen. Rivalry it feels, like.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
WELL i was thinking more like modern time right, now
because you're.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Not, wrong no need to be.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Defensive this is.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Your, pick, now this is my. Pick and the REASON
i say this, IS i, mean you've got two of
the best quarterbacks going head to. Head it's like reminiscent
of The brady And Peyton manning. Days but they've played
eight ton of football against each other over.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
These last few, years meaningful, games, too meaningful.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
Games and The bills actually have WON i think four
games during the regular season over the last four, year
but then three out of five SEASON i mean three
last five playoff runs or. Whatever The chiefs they've beat
The bills three, times so The bills can't get over that.
Hump but the games itself are must watch television just

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because of the caliber of those two, quarterbacks and also
the teams in, general the, coaches everything. Else they're just
two high quality programs that make it super. ENTERTAINING i
think it's a great.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Rivalry to, Me Josh allen feels Like Phil migleson is,
like why Did tiger have to be? Born like HERE i,
Am i'm like the, greatest and there's Still Tiger, woods
And Josh allen's, like and THERE'S. Frankl Patrick.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
Mahomes if you weren't For Patrick, mahomes it's HOW i used to.
Feel And i'm sure he did.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Two but one of my good friends Is Andy roddick
the tennis, player and he was top ten in the
world for over a, decade but he was number one
for a.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
While but there was Always.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Federer, yeah it was Always, federer like that was his
week for like five. Years or the finals Of, wimbledon
there was Just federer and he Had it was the Philm,
mickelson it Was Josh allen And, mahomes there Was rodic
with Freaking. FEDERER i like your. Answer not the same
PATH i was going, down BUT i like your.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Answer, NO i, MEAN i like the historical. Value BUT
i was just thinking, about like, currently what game does
everybody want to tune into and love the fact that
they get to play BECAUSE i know they play. AGAIN
i think In week nine this, year well last year.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
TOO i think regular season correct me If i'm, Wrong
But buffalo wins regular, season So i'm.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
SAYING i think they've won the last four Regular.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yeah they just. Don't they don't win, plays get the.
Playoffs they're, like, no we played The. Chief i'm gonna
Go Cowboys eagles number.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
One it's a great route.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Because they freaking hate each, other just fans and hats
walking by each. Other they might start, fighting, yes because
someone might Go cowboys suck wham An eagles fan punches.
Them so my number one because of that, reason just
the general overall general dislike of the other team's.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
Brand i'm putting The cowboys And.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Eagles and it's not like The cowboys have been, great
but everybody hates The cowboys because The cowboys get all the,
publicity all the.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Love america's, team, yes.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
And they feel like The cowboys. Shouldn't and If i'm
in THE Nfc east And i'm The eagles And i've
been pretty good and The cowboys are getting more love
than me and we're better Than i'm pissed. Too i'm.
Pissed we just won The Super bowl and we've been.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Dominant So i'm.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Gonna go number one rivalry over a mile Less cowboys And,
eagles And i'll go too. Here Bears Packers.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
Bears packers historically have been an incredible. Rivalry, again two
fan bases that absolutely hate each other within the same. Division,
obviously that counts for something as.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Well close in proximity and proximity always freezing, cold LIKE
i Remember Don mkowski playing quarterback For Green. Bay it
was like the first real Green Bay chicago. Game i'd
ever seen where they, like you can tell they hated each,
other and you're, like, oh they're. Professionals but there's something
about and you can speak to this, too there's something
about when the media is telling you to hate, them
when the fans hate them so much, much it actually

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promotes the hatred within.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
You, right you can feel. It, yeah and.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
So therefore you have to go out and represent the
hatred of your own. People, yes and So Aaron rodgers
owning The bears for all those, years for a long,
time and, AGAIN i think two teams geographically that close
makes it bitter. Bitter So i'm Going Packers bears as
my number two.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Rivalry what about?

Speaker 4 (54:29):
You i'm going to go The Pittsburgh steelers and The Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Ravens that's WHY i had that for Three so you take.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Over tell me. WHY i mean the physicality of these two,
teams the way that they, play the, competitiveness it's just
always a dog. FIGHT i, mean they get after each
other and you can feel. It the players are talking
smack to each, other and it's it's THAT Afc north
just get let's a color chin straps and have a

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fistfight in a Phone, booth and those are the type
of games that you get up, for and that's usually
always meaningful games late in the year against two outstanding
organizations that have had a lot of. Success and again
it's something that when you watch it as a, fan
you feel the energy on both, sides the hatred for one.
Another but they're two really competitive.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Organizations, yeah AND i think proximity a major part of.
It they both play a similar brand of football as.
Well BUT i think if one was running a wide, open.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
No smash, mouth come, down hell take your head.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Off, yeah so, yeah that would have been my number.
THREE i think you said it better THAN i could
have said. It what is your number?

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Three my number? THREE i, Mean i'm going to go
back to the current right. NOW i believe that The
Detroit lions And Green Bay packers have a pretty good
rivalry going on right now because number, one both these
teams are playoff teams And detroit has kind of come
into their own over these last few. Seasons Green BAY

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i think has always probably been seen as the star
of that, division BUT i remember what was it two
years go That detroit knocked them out of the playoffs
in Green, Bay and SO i think that there's a
hatred for each. Other and it's also one of those
teams that they play a, physical brown brand of, ball
and so again it's just proximity to each, other but

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same division rivalries and currently right, now two really good, Teams.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
Kevin who would you put up?

Speaker 3 (56:26):
There number one is definitely for, Me Steelers, ravens AND
i think a little hidden gem would be The niners
and The. Seahawks they hate each, OTHER i feel like
for a while, now and they're Fans West, coast so
it doesn't get a lot of, love BUT i feel
like those teams really don't like each.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Other honorable mention The cowboys and.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Everybody cowboys and, everybody they're fans and.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
Everybody yeah saw anybody against The?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Cowboys what about The?

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Patriots, YEAH i was gonna say The.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
COLTS i, mean so.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
That was more of a manning. Break i'm outside looking
at looking At, yeah maybe that's coming from fan.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Perspective inside the, building it was the craziest. Thing AND
i don't know if it was Because bill had history
and coaching with The jets and all that stuff The.
Jets every time we played The, jets there was a
hatred within the. Building and it started With Bill belichick
and he wanted to embarrass that.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Team that's rare to see from, Him like it was rare.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Because every every team you've put on the same, level,
right and no team was bigger than the, next no
game was bigger the. Next but for some, Reason Jets
week was. Different he wanted to beat the dog shit
out of this, team and he would openly kind of
say it and communicate it to the to, everybody and
we say It's Jets, week and it's the only game

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that we'd go into and say It's.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Jetsweek is that a win win for The gipper? GAME
i think?

Speaker 4 (57:41):
So and, LUCKILY i mean we were a pretty good Team.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Jets they dominated really kind of put it was so
one sided where it was, LIKE i, MEAN i can't
stand The, jets but as far.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
You, Beat i'm so. Bad it wasn't a.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Rivalry it was like.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Eight years in a row they didn't.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
WIN i, Know AND i have no.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
IDEA i thought the same thing getting. There it kind
of caught me Off Jets.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
WEEK i, thought were he just kind of you it's
A New.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
YORK i think it's A New york awesome. THING i,
mean and he just would get up for that game
and would just annihilate The. Jets that was.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Awesome that's. Fine, yeah it's fun to have someone that
is so consistent every once in a while be inconsistent
because because of like an emotional. Value because With, BELICHICK
i definitely don't know him like you. Do it's the
same every, week but that's his.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Brand but when it's, not it feels that much more.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Significant it kind of feels, refreshed, like, oh this feels
a little. Different all, right let's do. It the es,
going let's, go, man that's. Awesome final thing before we.
Jump but if you're a player and you were, like
when It's, july what in the heck are you even?

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Doing, well it's interesting because you've got really two down
periods right right after, season and depending on whether or
not you go to playoffs or if you're out right after,
season you get pretty substantial time and that's kind of
where you take time. Off but when you get to this,
point a lot of people, think you, know you might
go on a little bit of a get, away but

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you're kind of. GRINDING i used to always grind harder
during this period of, time getting myself ready to go for.
Camp SO i went into camp in. SHAPE i was
going to go out and dominate the run. TEST i
was gonna be my arm was going to be in.
Shape so it's Not you're in the third day of
double days and your arms getting. Sore SO i think
for a lot of the, athletes especially in THE, nfl

(59:27):
during this time, period you're just reving the. Engine you're
getting yourself focus, Ready you're pushing yourself to be at
your best when you get to.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Camp would you see guys that obviously were coming in
out of shape and didn't do?

Speaker 4 (59:39):
That, uh you sure, Would you sure, would and they'd
pay the, price Because i'm telling, you the conditioning test
is a beast depending on which conditioning tests you're, doing
and you constantly see guys throwing up at the condition
AND i was, like you know this is coming immediately
when we get to, camp you already know that we're
running gasers three, hundred so we're running the sixty sixty yard,
sprints we're running twenty of. Them so like the fact

(01:00:00):
that you're not in shape says something probably more about
the player than it does about anything, else because you're sitting,
there you're a professional. Athlete this is what we do
for a. Living you should be in, shape ready to,
go because that's how you get a pulled hamstring and
then you're out for half of camp because you can't.
Recover and now you set not only yourself but the
team back because you're not out there and you're a

(01:00:21):
guy that we're counting.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
On where would you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Train, OH i MEAN i would train all.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Over Sometimes i'd be out In california And i'd have
a guy That i'd go to and we'd do all
the workouts and all that, stuff and Then i'd go
over and there would always be professional wide receivers in the,
area whether it Was Julian edelman Or amidola or Chad
O chosiko would come out and throw.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
A like with, us EITHER USC.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Ucla sometimes we'd go to a high. School so we
just find a spot to go throw and get our work,
in and all those guys are dedicated to what we're
doing and understand that they need to get work on and.
Not we weren't always on the same. Team it was
just guys that wanted to get work. In and we
all have the same route concepts or, patterns whether it's a,
slant a, hitch and now whatever it might. Be and

(01:01:06):
so you're just getting good quality work in and getting
your arm in shape and doing your footwork drills and
just getting ready to rock and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Roll and when you move to a place Like tennessee
and there aren't as MANY nfl players just hanging, out
like how do you get work?

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
In then, well a lot of times there's guys that
are here in town as, well in the city that you,
play and not everybody disperses and goes to back To
florida Or california wherever they're. From a lot of guys
will be here for that exact. Reason i'm. Saying we'll
go in and work out at the facility and then
we'll find a place to go throw and get our
work in that, Way so it's not always one of

(01:01:40):
those things that you you don't have anybody to throw.
To most of the, time it's particularly younger guys that
aren't maybe as as. Established they'll stay in the city
that they're about to, play and you have guys that throw.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Too would you have keys to the fortress at any? Point,
like if you want to work out regardless and you're
on the, team could you get in any? Time pretty?

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
MUCH i don't recall other than the lockout that happened
in two thousand and, ten which is the weirdest thing
where they're, like we went back for one day AND
i met the new new offensive, Coordinator Jim, zorn and
then the very next day he, said, sorry you can't
come in. Anymore we're back in the. Lockout they're trying
to figure something out with. Negotiations they said we can come.
BACK i came back for a day and met, him

(01:02:22):
and then it was once again the. Lockout you couldn't come.
In it was the weirdest time period.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
Ever maybe it was a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Year he. Didn't they didn't Like.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
Matt he's, like, no, no back in the.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Lockout in the, lockout And i've had enough of your
conversation In Jamal adams clip where you're trying to get
in the.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
Building thank you guys for.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
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