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July 23, 2025 51 mins

Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel are getting ready for the Hall of Fame game.  What are the some of the burning questions headed into training camps?  Justin Fields may be on his last chance with the Jets.  How do the Lions fare with two new coordinators behind Dan Campbell? Matt reveals what he thinks the Cowboys' game plan will be.  Will Daniel Jones be the starter for the Colts? Matt gives his outlook for JJ McCarthy with the Vikings.  

How much would you pay for the original Darth Vader light saber?  Bobby and Matt talk memorabilia and the different collections they've seen.  The fake market is so huge that Matt wonders if you have to question most of it.  Bobby moves onto playing games in weather and wants Matt to look back to his most memorable weather games

A new list has the Top 50 shows of All Time.  Where are all the favorite shows of Bobby and Matt and where are they on the list?  Bobby saw the new 'Superman' movie and gives his review.  Wrapping up, Matt previews his duties for Media Days!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got Lost, just said.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
We got lost?

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Just save.

Speaker 5 (00:20):
What Becker and we hope you stay because we got lost.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Just say, yeah, we got lost. Just say here's Bobby that.
Did you know there will be NFL football this month.
I'm so excited crazy.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
It's July, and I feel like this is the deadest
time for all sports.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's so dead right now.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Yeah, you know, baseball is entering the second half and
most people don't even care about baseball. But it's like
the middle there's no basketball. College football's media days are happening.
But NFL July thirty, first the Hall of Fame Game
and can't Ohio, It'll have the Lions and the Chargers.
When preseason started for you, guys, did.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
You play early? Did you play at all? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
What was it back then? The Hall of Fame Game.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
SE's like everybody's just begging to get hurt, so they
don't play anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, nobody played in that Hall of Fame game because again,
the teams I played in the Hall of Fame Game
had five preseason games instead of the normal four.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
That we used to have, so a lot of times
you see those.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Stars play US series and usually as it goes in preseason.
Back then, it was first first game, the Stars would
play about maybe a quarter or two series, then all
of a sudden, the second preseason game to the half
third preseason game.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
They treated it.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
More like a real game where they would play a
full half and then come back out for at least
a drive in the third quarter. And that's just conditioning,
getting your body ready to go. But then the fourth
game is when they usually sit starters.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
It seems a bit early for a game, though, considering
camps are just happening at that time.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Do they start earlier to get the Hall of Fame
game going? Like? Do those two you.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Get to report earlier to camp, so they actually have
to go to camp earlier, which is kind.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I think that sucks. Yeah, it kind of sucks.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I'm actually gonna go.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
And Jared Allen obviously he's been on our show, My friend,
he's getting inducted in the Hall of Fame, so he
asked me if I would go up, and he's having
a little party the night before, So I'm going to
go for the Hall of Fame ceremony, which would be
really cool, ilebrate him.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
But he's so pumped.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh he's so fired up, man, and he deserves it,
and he's been waiting for quite some time. I think
that there was a possibility that he was going to
be a first ballot, and then he got looked over
the next year. And but as when you hear him talk,
obviously he knows all of his stats and knows what
he was capable of and what he achieved in the NFL,
and now it's all come to fruition for him.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
And if you go back, you can see our interview
with Jared, you can listen to it whatever however we
want to consume it.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
But we did an hour with Jared, and I led
it with like, dude, weren't you in.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
The Hall of Fame? I know, he just went right
there and he kind of was like, oh really.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Okay, Well no, I was just confused because he had
all the numbers, right, he had the big personality. Those
two should have married each other, and I felt like
he should have already been in the Hall of Fame,
and I wanted to know his thoughts on why he wasn't.
Turns out, if you might smash cut, he got put
into the Hall of Fame. So some would say that
is the reverse curse coming on this show.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's all right, you're gonna go to a Hall of fame,
the reverse.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
We've already got one Hall of Fame permanently embedded in
the show, and now every time somebody is up for
a Hall of Fame, they're going to be put in there.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Let's go over to kickoff, Kevin kickff. How you doing, buddy, Yeah,
I'm doing good. How you guys doing, We're doing good?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
What do you have for us over there?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I wanted to run through some of the biggest question
marks heading into each training camp, not each training camp,
but training camp in general. Okay, okay, so the first
question here talking about the Jets and Justin Fields, is
this his last chance to make or break his career?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I think it is.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
You know, you go to Chicago, which is somewhat of
an organization in disarray, struggled his first year out. Obviously,
you're a rookie, so you're expected to struggle with a
bad team. So don't get it, get it wrong. But
he played well last year for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He
won what four of the four games that he started.
But again, now you're with another organization, new offense, new

(04:02):
personnel around you, and people want to see this guy's
show promise in a very productive way. And I don't
think he's always been put in a great situation. I
don't think this is the best situation for him, but
he's going to be asked to win a lot of
ball games for a team that's going to need good
quarterback play this year.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
I think he's been putting weird situations everywhere he has
been and that's not an excuse. But he had a
defensive coach in Chicago and obviously that entire organization was
in disarray for all those years, right hence the change
over to Ben Johnson being the head coach this year.
I think he goes to Pittsburgh and he's at least
in a system that has some consistency.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
But he played a few games.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Russ ended up being the starter, and they would put
Justin Fields in just to run the ball right. So
it wasn't even that they had a lot of faith
in Justin Fields as the future because they put Russ in.
The new Russ wasn't the answer.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Right, And they're both on those one year deals.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
And so now he's going to the Jets, and I
have no confidence in the Jets just based on the
history of the Jets.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Right, And they've got a new head coach with Aaron Glenn.
You don't know, he's again defensive minded guy. Got a
new offensive coordinator. Now they do have some pieces Priest
Hall in the backfield. You've got Garrett Wilson on the outside,
that's an absolute stud. So they've got some players, I
think that, but they're more defensive oriented than they are offense.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yeah, what will be interesting is if he does not
have he just needs a good year, a good year
to go another year. If he has a mid to below,
he'll just be a backup forever.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Right, And he needs to have a good, solid year
to prove that he can build on that and be
a guy that they bring back and say, hey, he
showed us that he has the potential to be the
face of this franchise and now we got to surround
him with more talent and put pieces around him for
him to be successful on a consistent basis.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, so I think a good year better than pretty
good good, But he doesn't have to be great in
order to get another year. And also if he starts,
he's usually a pretty solid second fantasy quarterback to have
because of the running yards that he gets.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
I don't want him to be my guy.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
If he's your guy, you're probably going to be struggling
on your fantasy team. But he's a good backup to
have if your guy goes down and you need.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
A couple of weeks or a bye week.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
By week, yeah, bye week, big bye week. Guy.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Were you used and did you play fantasy football while
you were in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
I'd never played fantasy football. I didn't even pick up
fantasy football, and probably until about three years ago when
my son Clay his flight football teams, the dads and
the kids all got together and we did a fantasy draft.
And then now I'm addicted because it's fun to go
on see who's playing. You know, all of a sudden
you're saying, this guy might be out this week, so
you got to make a few subtle changes here there.
Some guys want to make a trade for certain guys,

(06:41):
or a player gets hot, so it's fun just from
that aspect of knowing personnel and then having Now my
son has no idea, and I think some of these
dads really take it seriously. First draft, I had I
drafted Patrick Mahomes right away because we had the first
pick overall and Clay my son really wanted Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
And everybody's like.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
A quarterback around. I'm like, where are you talking about?
Patrick Mahomes. So Travis Kelsey and my second pick, they're like,
what are you doing? Everybody's taking like the running backs,
wide receivers. I had no idea. Yeah, I was like,
you know what, I'm doing it for my son.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's not for me.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
They're like on there doing the algorithm, setting it up,
know exactly who they want to go after. We actually
ended up doing fine that year, but some of these
teams were just loaded and I had no idea.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
The thing about fantasy that's fun is that it makes
you care about the Seahawks and Rams in Week.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Four and you just wouldn't like it wouldn't even be
a game.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Were people referencing fantasy football to you while you played?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Oh yeah, all the time.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
People come up and say, Dude, I got you on
my fantasy team, or.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Bro, I got you on my fantasy After the game.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Next question, Kevin, let's go over to Detroit and Dan Campbell.
Do you think he can succeed without both coordinators?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I do, I really do.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think that they hired from within, so guys that
already know the system, so the system's not going to change.
You got Jared Goff, you got Jamiir Gibbs in the backfield,
so they've got one of the best offensive lines. And
now defensively, they're getting their dudes coming back. And that
was the biggest issue for this team last year is
defensively just how many people went down. They're playing with second,

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third string guys all year. So if they can bring
those guys back and stay healthy and pick up where
they left off, there's gonna be fine.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Question about when coordinators move on to other jobs, especially
head coaching jobs. Do you know if the new coordinators
ever call the old coordinators that are the head coaches to.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Go, hey, can I get a little help here, like
a little.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Advice, Because there have been people that have reached out
to me after I've left a position, like I was
on a TV show for a long time. I won't
say which one I left, and the person that came
in after me called it was like, Hey, what do
I do here? Or how would you deal?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
With this person.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
It wasn't about how to actually do the job, but
it was much more about what's happening inside the organization.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Right. Do you think that happens at all?

Speaker 4 (08:52):
I definitely think it happens because it's an incestuous group
of guys that all know each other or there's a
family lineage coming up, and so they'll call each other
all the time and get information, especially if you're not
in the same vision. If you're you're not competing against
one another, if you have a friendship, then it would
be like me calling you and asking you advice on something,

(09:13):
and they're more than willing probably to do it because
they've been in the same position.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
What if I was the head coach of the Bears, though,
and you were new offensive Cordner Zach Lyne.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
I don't think that there's going to be a lot
of conversation. That's what I was going to say. Outside
the division is one thing. Inside the division, where you're
going to be rivals and competing for a division championship
or for a title, there's no chance they're calling and
trying to sway I mean, influence each other one way
or another.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
I think that Dan Campbell gets a lot of credit
because he had two great coordinators, But I think they
don't they sometimes they don't credit Dan Campbell for actually
making given the coordinators of those jobs.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Right and Ben Johnson.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
You didn't know who Ben Johnson was until Dan Campbell
came in and gave him that opportunity. He saw something
in Ben Johnson and gave him that opportunity, and that's
why Ben Johnson rose through the ranks and now as
the head coach for the Chicago Bear. So he definitely
deserves credit for c the talent and understanding that that
type of personality is going to be a fit for
what they.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Do offensive and defensive.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Right, Like, he had to make the decision to hire
those two coaches, And I think a lot of times
people will go, well, yeah, when you have two great coordinators,
obviously your team is going to be amazing. But what
doesn't happen sometimes people going, Man, Dan Campbell found great coordinators,
made that work, and we believe he could do it again. Right,
And So I do think it's a mix. I think
they'll be good again. I think they've set they're set

(10:33):
up for this year personnel wise, as you said, And
I think he's he his players really like him, but
I don't think he's a full player's coach. I think
he's that kind of hybrid. The players like him, but
they also respect him because he has a culture.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
He has a culture, and he sets a tone, and
it's about physicality, it's about violent violence, it's about fighting
knee caps, as he would say. But he's also relatable
because he also played in the league.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
And he played offense, which is so weird because he
does not look like an offense No.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
If he looks like a three technique and he's going
to spit on your palm when you're getting in your
three point stance and going to come after.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
You and try to kill you.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
By next one up, Kevin, what do you think the
Cowboys are gonna do at running.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Back what they did last year? They're just going to
mix a match.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
They're gonna grab, They're gonna make a quilt, right, like
what else are they? They have retreads from everywhere.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Right when you have Cedee Lamb and you've got now
George Pickens out there, they're gonna want to throw the
football to open up the run game. And so they're
gonna have running back by committee and whoever's hot they're
gonna play the hot hand and supplement the run game
with the pass game. In Dak Prescott, that's what I
feel like they're gonna do by committee.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Just I won't say it doesn't work, but it is
not highly effective Constantly.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
You've got to have a dude, and you also have
to understand the type of running back that you have
because a guy like Derrick Henry, he was always a
volume guy. If you didn't get him involved early and
give him at least twenty touches in a game, he
would have a slow start because when I first got
to Tennessee, he was split in time and he would
never get the amount of touches to really explode on

(12:04):
the seat on the scene, so to speak. But then
all of a sudden the second year, he took over
full responsibility of that position, and you just saw him
go bananas on everybody because as the game war on
and because of the style of play that he plays with,
he just wear on you where you don't and then
that's when the sixty yarder would hit.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
Let's look at the depth chart here, and there's not
really a depth chart. There's mostly who's going to play,
so Jante Williams comes over and he's good, but he's coming.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Off an injury.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, right, and so a knee injury.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Do you even know what you're getting at least to start,
it's not an achilles that'd be a tough one to
come back from.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
That'd be a tough one to come back Jvanta Williams.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
You have Miles Sanders. Again, he's just another guy. It's
another guy Jaden Blue who can catch the ball, who
played in Texas. But again, yeah, really fast, unproven NFL.
There's a reason he wasn't taken in the first round,
not that a lot of running backs are. But you
do see that with guys that come in like you
talked about for the Lions a second ago, like they

(13:05):
Jamier Gibbs. Gibbs gets drafted the first round. Obviously they're
going to play the crap out of them. But he
was by committee, or at least he was one of
two backs.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yeah, it wasn't a David Montgomery hire back who got
hurt late in the season, but they were going by
committee as well, taking hits off each other.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Well, I think also Brian Schottenheimer is a guy that's
been an offensive coordinator for his entire career leading up
to this opportunity as a head coach. He understands personnel.
So a lot of when you watch the Dallas Cowboys
offense and how they operate, they're going to use those
guys to their skill sets. So a lot of those
guys might be third down backs or guys that are

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gonna be used in situational football where they want to
get the ball to them in a screen game and
not always just be downhill runners. So it's going to say,
what value do you have and you add to this
offense and what we're trying to do to attack the defense.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Next question, who do you guys think will start Week one?
For the cool Anthony Richardson form Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Daniel Jones is almost a lock, right.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
I feel like Daniel Jones is kind of now emerged
as the front runner. With Anthony Richardson being out with
the shoulder injury. Having kind of the up and down,
They're going to give Daniel Jones an opportunity to come
in and seize this opportunity to be the starting quarterback.
And I think that he deserves an opportunity. He's been
there all off season. He's obviously impressed the coaching staff.

(14:37):
He's a veteran guy that's been through it, and I
think he got the short end of stick when he
was with the Giants.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
We talked about that.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Before, Yeah, and you know why, because he was with
the Giants.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
I think Daniel Jones seems like he's forty five years
old because we've been talking about him forever.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
He's twenty eight. He's twenty eight, isn't eight like in
his fifth year.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
So he's a He's a young quarterback that was in
one of those situations and he got a big contract
because he had a decent year in his contract's right.
So well, I do think he has a chance to
really thrive with the Colts, and I think Richardson, if
he does not get a shot.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
To play, he'll be traded and be a high upside guy.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
For the next team until he doesn't succeed again and
then he'll just be a backup rober.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
And the nice part about it too is Anthony Richardson's
on his rookie contract, so he's not getting paid astronomically,
and they can give Daniel Jones an opportunity. If for
some reason that doesn't work out, they can always return
back to Anthony Richardson, Let him sit learn behind a
guy like Daniel Jones, understand the game maybe a little
bit better, and get back out there when he's healthy.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Anthony richards twenty three, So in five years we'll have
this conversation about Anthony Richardson, like we're doing Daniel Jones,
when Anthony Richardson is going to be the starter.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Finally, can't believe he only twenty three.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Well, he came out of college. He's super young, super young,
and not a lot of starts either.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah. Right, so he only played for one year at Florida.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Yeah, so you're looking at a guy who is way young,
but we talk about them a lot, so they seem
a lot older just because of the time we've spent
with them. And so I think Anthony Rizon ends up
being the backup. If Daniel Jones gets hurt what she
had before, he'll get some time, but he probably gets traded.
He probably goes and wins a job on a bad team,
and that'll be a shot. It feels like now the

(16:19):
formula is get drafted early, play early, you don't play well,
you're backup for a while. It's like justin field, same
thing kind of happened with him. You're backup for a while,
you prove you're pretty good, and then there's some value there.
Either the team goes with you or they trade you
for something, and then you get one more shot after
your bench. Yes, that feels like the new normal when
you draft a quarterback early, because rarely do they succeed.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
It's a rarity.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
And it's such a hard thing to be able to
evaluate quarterbacks coming out because you're evaluating talent, but then
you're also evaluating the mental side of it, how they process,
how they anticipate in all those things. And the game
is so much different when you get to the NFL
from the college level, just because of the dynamics of
the defense and the sophistication behind it, and so it

(17:04):
takes time and you could be the most talented player
but look like an absolute full out on Sundays just
because of how good the defenses are.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
And I think with c J.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Stroud and Jaden Daniels performing at such a high level
their rookie years, that makes the comparisons even more harsh.
Whenever you don't do it, because it used to be, well,
we got a rookie quarterback. We can't expect much from them,
and when they didn't give you much, it was part
of the expectation, so you gave them a little more time.
But because you see two guys in the last two
years play phenomenally in their rookie year, it was like

(17:35):
when Adrian Peterson got hurt and came back in like
a week.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
He liked he lost his right leg and came back.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
In a week, and everybody compared to he Yeah, he's
a freaking starfish.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Everybody was like, well, if Adrian Peterson.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
Can can bounce back that quick, I guess I'm supposed
to too, So that comparison started to be a bit unfair.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
But I do think Daniel Jones will start.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I think Daniel Jones is pretty good.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
And again, he can run, he can move.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
He can He is a dual threat quarterback, There's no
doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Now, you're not going to put him on a bunch
of these read options, zone read plays, but you can
do enough of that to keep the defense honest and
play make him play eleven on eleven football to open
up other things as well.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
All Right, what you got, all right, stay on quarterbacks
is JJ McCarthy going to be ready.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
And I'll let you take the most of this.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Since you know that scheme and you know the head coach,
which is Kevin O'Connell, I feel like that system has
the quarterback ready, right, and that system puts the quarterback
in a place to be ready and to be really
good your thoughts because you're more educated in this.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Well, he's going to get the hell coach out of
him won by Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
He's a quarterback guru, and we've seen it with anybody
that's sept in that building. But then you add justin
Jefferson Addison, You've got so many pieces out there that
you have to work with a good offensive line and
you can run the football as well. And also Kevin
understands your strengths and weaknesses. And that's the biggest part
about why he's so good at what he does, is

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he puts you in a position to be successful and
make sure that you understand the game plan.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
And so so I believe that he's going.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
To be ready to go out there and operate at
a high level because I watched his kid when I
was in covering college football when he was at Michigan,
and he can make all the throws. He's got a
strong arm, he's mobile, he can run the football as
well if need be. So you're getting kind of a
carbon copy of what you had last year with Sam Darnold,

(19:27):
maybe a little bit more athletic without the experience. However,
I do believe last year sitting out watching that, being
in those meetings, understanding what you need to do on
a day to day basis, and also understanding the totality
of the offense because you're in those meetings every day
for an entire year and able to digest that. That
will help JJ McCarthy going into this year.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
What about that system makes quarterbacks successful?

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Well, I think Kevin does a really good job because
I've been up to their facility and got to sit
in some of the meetings.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Where he's very descriptive.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
It's not just how we're going to do it, it's the
why behind it, and it's the check with me system
as well. So if a when I say check with
me system, you might have two plays in a huddle
and one might be a man beater, one might be
a zone. All of a sudden they motioned to one side,
and that's your indicator that it's man versus zone. Now
you're checking to your best man beater because you know

(20:19):
it's man defense, and so you're already in an advantageous
position because you're running a man beater against man defense,
or your zone beater versuszone defense. And he has a
way of simplifying what you're trying to do to not
over complicate it in the quarterback's head. And when you
can play fast at the quarterback position, when you can
process quickly and understand, have confidence in that, you're normally

(20:41):
going to be pretty successful.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
So when I walked in, you were talking about playing
golf with Tunyan who. I had him a fantasy team,
speaking of fantasy for a couple times, and he would
catch touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Oh, he had like ten touchdowns in one year and
I think it was twenty twenty or something like that.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
When he's a green back.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
But how do you know him?

Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know what? This is the first time I met him.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
I got invited by buddy Jeb Beasley to go out
to Hillwood yesterday and they had played previously, so Robert
had come out in a few guys. Of course, this
is a funny story. So I get there, I'm scrambling around.
I had to drop off the kids at school with
my wife and I get to the golf course. So
I get to my trunk and I open it up
completely forgot to bring my golf clubs.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
I thought that they were in the back of my truck.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
So I had to walk in and be like, yeah,
do you guys have rental clubs? Because I live in Franklin,
there's no chance I'm gonna get back, so borrowed some
rental clubs. But I'm pretty impressed with the fact that
I did shoot. I think it was an eighty four
or eighty five, and those clubs might be better than
the ones that I have, so I'm definitely gonna get those.
But how about Robert Tunyan goes out there. This dude's

(21:40):
cool as hell, I mean, great guy. He's about to
leave to go to camp with the Chiefs, and guy
shoots a seventy five. Wow, he I guess he's a
seven or something like that. He said, I never broke
eighty at this course. I'm usually about about eighty eighty one.
I've always wanted to break eighty. Guy goes out and
shoots seventy five. He was on fire, hitting fairways, long cuts,

(22:02):
he had like three or four birdies.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
I was like, what is going on right now? What's
his build? Like, he's a big dude.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
He's probably two thirty six' five two thirty, five two
forty something like.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
That he looks like he's pretty. Athletic does he look like?
Alignment is he like a tight?

Speaker 3 (22:16):
End it's. Weird he looks like a pure tight.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
End he kind of has that ability to put his
hand on the, ground be able to block at the
end of the line of scrimmage like defensive. Ends but
at the same, time you could tell he's also one
of those builds that's going to go out and he
can break you down as a wide.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Receiver how do you feel about playing golf with new.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
PEOPLE i don't mind. IT i you know.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
WHAT i just like giving people crap to be honest with,
you and it kind of breaks the tension a little
bit because sometimes you get out there and people are
too stuffy AND i don't take golf too. Seriously there's
guys That i've played with where it's my first time
out with, him but they're, like you, know they feel
like they hit it off the toe and they're, like,
oh but it's dead.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Straight and you're, like, oh, okay, guy save.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
It you're not on the, tour Right you're, YEAH i
don't care whether you shoot at seventy, two but let's
have a good time and good conversation every now and.
Then and you run into those guys that are way
too serious that it's hard to even talk to them
on the. Course BUT i just like to have a
good time to get to know.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
PEOPLE i feel LIKE i need a first good couple
of holes with people THAT i don't. Know AND i
don't mind sucking later as long AS i don't THINK
i suck from the.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Start, yeah that's. True you want to get off to
a good.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
START i don't want them to feel, like oh, god
this whole round is going to be like this with this,
Guy like IF i shake a couple in the woods
at the very, Beginning oh it's.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Tough that was. Really that was my first tea box.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
YESTERDAY i skyrocket one into the other fairway two off
the first, tea of, course next, one dribble it right
over the, top just right past the lady's.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
TEA i was, like, Really i'm glad to hear. That,
yeah it felt.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Great THEN i don't feel so ALONE i.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Pulled it together after, that BUT i, mean first tea
JUST i.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Felt like just a. Dog the, worst, too is if
you get out there and you can't warm. Up AND
i didn't warm.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
UP i was more panicked by the fact THAT i
was a little bit frazzled THAT i forgot my own.
Clubs we went, in got a little quick bite to,
eat hit some, putts and then it was on the.
Course SO i was, Like, okay this feels pretty good
in my. Hand let's try.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
This, Yeah AND i don't even think warming up makes me.
BETTER i think it's just in my. Head it's almost.
Placibo IF i get out and warm, up IF i
hit a couple of good ones in a, Row i'm, like,
OH i got. It i'm just Gonna i'm gonna hold.
Off i'm good to, go and let's get on the
course for. Sure or IF i hit, none it probably
is no. DIFFERENT i suck, Regardless so but, yeah IF
i get. It we played a couple of weeks ago
and there was no warm, up And i'm already in my,

(24:28):
Head i'm, LIKE i got no warm, up send me
four holes BEFORE i get. WARM i didn't invite you
to come play. Today and he turned this.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Down, YEAH i had to turn you.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Down, unfortunately my you, know my wife is traveling back
To california because her, grandmother who's ninety three ninety, four
is not doing. Well so she's gonna go back and
make sure that she she sees her And, spencer.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
You don't have to guild. Me you can just SAY
i d ride in The grandma like, Really grandma, SAID i, mean, BRO.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
I didn't EVEN i was, like, hey we're gonna. PLAY
i know it's the last, minute we're gonna hit. It
i'm like, two and he's, like, hey can't come.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
KIDS i was like.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
COOL i didn't even say anything, back like come, on,
man you.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Suck oh he, Did and he cares about your.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Kids they're old enough to watch each, other are They
the oldest one is old enough to watch the youngest?

Speaker 3 (25:12):
One she's. Fifteen, YEAH i GOT i got a. SOPHOMORE
i got in the eighth.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Grader but they wouldn't know what to do each other
because the seven and nine year old would run the
house just not listen.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
To anything that they're.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Older there's just so many of.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Them, yeah well there's live, yeah, question what's the grocery?

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Bell Like, oh it's. Astronomical how you just a grocery.
Belt think about door dash when you like you're you
run around the sports doing all this and you're, like,
okay see and if you don't hit A chick fil
a and you get home in time to do like
a door dash a DECENT i, mean you're talking about
one hundred and twenty dollars every time because you're buying
food or entrees for seven, people and at least five

(25:46):
of these people in my family eat like, adults.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
And you also have to, tip and you also got
to pay delivery.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Fee, yeah, yeah it's, uh it's. REAL i did order
like and this is just.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
DUMB i WHEN i ordered the other, NIGHT i order,
sushi and you know, sushi it's always one of those
things that you're looking at the in you and you're
still hungry and you're.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Going oh is that enough? Roles, yeah it's like two
hundred dollars for. SUSHI i was, like what AM i?

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Doing and you always get more than you, need which
means you pay, more which means then you do get,
full and then then you can't like keep that for two.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Days, no you put it in there Like i'll eat that.
Tomorrow it's all.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Weird, yeah it's all.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Weird that's bad decision.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Making if you have the, cash you can Own Darth
vader's original lightsaber if you are A Star wars, fan

(26:50):
or if you.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Just want to invest in some.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
Memorabilia they are auctioning Off star wars is original lightsaber
and they think it'll be around three million.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Bucks three.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Million i've never Seen Star wars And i'm not Anti Star, wars,
Right i'm not really anti anything anymore BECAUSE i have
really nerdy things THAT i love that people kind OF
i can't believe you like, That so have at.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
It lord of The, rings have at.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
It i'm not gonna make fun of you BECAUSE i
Like game Of, thrones and, really what's the, difference, Right.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
So, yeah what's the difference those? Dragons but three million?

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Bucks like you're getting that if you just have play
money like so, much you need to have at least
five hundred million dollars to buy that for three.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
MILLION i want a toy for three million, dollars and
you better be a Serious Star wars.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Fan it would not be touched because it's a three
million dollar.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Investment you would just put that probably in a safe.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Or it would be part of a museum type presentation
at your mega.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
MANSION i would have to, see like, who.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
What type of, clientele and how many people would go
and actually bid on a three million dollar.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
LIGHTSABER i would think with a lot of this movie and,
memorabilia a lot of times it can be like private
equity that buy really expensive things to resell it, later
so that happens a.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Lot or you could be Like Jim mersey.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Who had a museum of guitars from really famous. PEOPLE
i mean he would go and buy million dollar guitars
and he would travel around because he loved it so
much and show people The Jim Mersey Traveling.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Museum that's.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
UNBELIEVABLE i went to this one private sports. Museum the
guy privately owned this thing and it was IN. La
he had A Babe ruth Original jersey warn in one
of these special, Games Hank. AARON i, mean the memorabilia
collection was mind. Boggling he had this massive warehouse down
IN la and we got to walk through it because

(28:45):
it was a friend of my wife's. Family AND i
walked through it AND i was blown away about how
much memorabilia. Had BUT i can only imagine how much
that collection was.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
Worth there was a story last week and you may
have seen, it but this guy who RUNS i think
it's called like mister Man cave is dead apparent a
self inflicted. Wound and he had posted On facebook before
he shot himself what he did that he had forged
about three hundred to four hundred million dollars worth of.

(29:17):
Jerseys it was a lot Of Patrick, mahomes a lot
Of Aaron. Judge and they went and rated his warehouse as,
well and they found another couple hundred million dollars in,
fake fake cards signed, wow fake.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Uniforms all this he had made hundreds of millions of
dollars and.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Fifty three hundred and fifty. Million do you see the? Story,
yeah why wouldn't you just shut it? Down that like
Fifty that's WHY i feel about.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Much i'm gonn get away with four bank, Robberies, like
don't go for five like he got.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Four eventually they're gonna catch. You the Casey wolf.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Guy, yeah, like, hey eventually they're gonna catch, you even
though you did a good job of evading the police
for a long period of.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Time but how much money do you need after you've
already you've. Won you've.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Won even if it's ten, million you've won. One if
they're not, suspicious.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
It has nothing new with money at that, Point, yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Three hundred and fifty or does it have only to
do with money or because you're so obsessed with money
now and that you see all the things that you can,
buy because again he WAS i went to the. Website
he's like what he had because he was very successful
because he had all This patrick mahomes and but it wasn't.
Real he was like the number one seller of framed signed. Jerseys,
wow and he had, sold as you, said three hundred

(30:24):
and fifty million dollars. Worth and they found another and
you may see the actual number because they were on,
it meaning they had been investigating for a, while WHICH
i think is why killing. Himself and so he said
what he, did posted, it AND i think just killed
himself because then they found him and then they found
all of the other signed stuff that he hadn't sold
and that so if you have a lot of stuff
now or you bought it from, him it's probably fake

(30:47):
and the market saturated with thousands millions of dollars or
the money and real.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Signature you got a question everyone that you.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
See and that's a pretty easy signature to.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Forge and watched his whole TikTok on a guy that
went to jail because he was convicted of fraud because
he'd run an operation of like, this not as, big
and he talked about the ones that he could easily
do and the ones that he wouldn't do because they
were so. Hard and the ones he wouldn't do were
Like Derek, jeter Because Derek jeter made a lot of, loops,
right it was like one motion you kind couldn'tell where

(31:18):
it started and.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Stopped another one Was King Griffey. Junr and the other
one Was Ichi.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Real, Yeah eachieraro would probably be a hard one to.
Deal he probably had.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Some, yeah there were definitely Some asian influence in his.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Signings i'm, saying like this, Penmanship.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
YEAH i have another one here BECAUSE i think that's
memorabilia is so. Interesting i've never Seen Citizen kane the.
MOVIE i think it's black and. White have you ever seen?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
THAT i don't THINK i.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Have it's like always like the number, one number two
best movie of all, Time Citizen. Kane never seen? It,
okay there's a sled from it and it's one of
The rosebud, sleds and it sold out an auction for
fourteen points seventy five million.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Dollars what fourteen points seventy five million?

Speaker 5 (32:00):
DOLLARS i would think That Darth vader's original lightsaber would
be worth more than A Citizen kane, sled, Right BUT
i don't know enough About so.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Are you a movie? Buff you got to be a movie?

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Buff or, again you're buying it as an investment go, up.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Thinking it might go, Up BUT i mean you're playing
with fire at that. Point it's fifteen million dollars fifteen.
Million and also people are going.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
To think it's that cool because who's Seen Citizen.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Kane, yeah you've got a? Sled what's that? Sled did?
You is it in the? Stalls the kids take it
out during?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Snow let's go sled down the?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Hill they break like first go totally collapses from nineteen
forty one break sleds every.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Year have you Seen Citizen?

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Kane?

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Pack, no it's going to rain here In nashville, again probably,
Today And i've complained about the rain a couple. Times
But i'm curious you have games in your mind that
were so influenced by, Weather, like what comes to mind
WHEN i say weather?

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Game first one that comes to mind Is buffalo the
year in two thousand and eight when we played. There
it was the end of the, season last, game AND
i walked in to the night before the. Game we
would go, in we'd have a quarterback, meeting and normally
it was just, myself the other, Quarterbacks josh, McDaniels and
we go through the game. Plan we'll go through the
checks and all this. STUFF i walk in there's Coach.
Belichick he's never in those. Meetings it's usually just the

(33:11):
quarterbacks and the quarterback. Coach and so he sits down
and he, Goes, matt we're gonna do some different stuff
in the game. Plan and we had like one hundred
and twenty. PLAYS i, mean we're locked and, loaded ready
to rock and. Roll AND i was, like what are
we talking. About he's, like, well we're going to condense
this to probably about eight nine runs and maybe maybe
eight eight.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Passes AND i was, like what are you talking. About he's,
like the weather's going to be.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Awful they're predicting sixty five mile prior, winds, sleep maybe some.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Rain it's gonna be. Cold AND i was like really.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
So literally got out on the field for warmups just
to go check out the weather. CONDITIONS i couldn't throw
a ball ten yards without the wind grabbing it and
taking it right down the. Ground it was absolutely. Insane
insane in.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Terms of the. Weather it was.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Cold they had to hold the goal post up with
ropes for the field goals because it was blowing so,
hard so you couldn't throw unless the wind was behind your.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Back and so we ended up winning the.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
GAME i think it was like sixteen to seven or
something like, that and we scored twice and that's all
we really needed to. Do and it was an absolute wild.
Game in terms of.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Weather playing ball in Southern, CALIFORNIA i guess you didn't
deal with much.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Weather, no not at. All we had the Sant ana.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Wins that's, it like a little bit, windy but that
was an extreme. Game we had some cold games In
Kansas city where there were like ten degrees where it's just,
Frigid but once you get out there and you run
around and you're doing, that it's kind of. Manageable it's
the games when it's like a cold rain and it's
not really snowing that are the worst because it just

(34:44):
soaks you to your core and you cannot get, warm
and you're just sitting there frigid on the sideline when
you're out of the, game and those are brutal.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Games when you moved To, boston did that just feel?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Different? Oh.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Completely you go From, california Southern, california and then you
go To boston old School East. Coast just even the
township Of. Foxboro when we went out To, foxboro it's
not a big community by any, means and you're in
the middle of the. Sticks and this is before they
built Out foxboro and put in the. Hotels it was

(35:16):
a small roundabout and just you felt like you were
out in the. Country it was a complete culture.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Shock that's one of my favorite cities except when it's.
Winter boston And, CHICAGO i love them, both but god,
dang when it's, winter, man it's, cold even for a
guy like me who did not grow up in Southern.
California like we had seasons In, arkansas we have seasons In,
tennessee and it does get cold for a couple of,
months but it has cut you.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Wind it's cut you, wind and then the snow will
come AND i mean it'll it'll dump a few feet
on you at any given day and you're, like what
is going. On you're shoveling your, Driveway you're just trying
to move around on the on the, streets and you're just, like,
man this is, cold and this is, Different and especially
for a guy LIKE i, said grown up in Southern,
california it was just.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
Surreal that first WINTER i was, There minnesota probably was
a bit. Different although super, cold at least you got
to play. Inside we got to play, inside so that's
a game.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Changer we had days where we would have had games
at home that'd been negative, twenty negative fifteen the year
first YEAR i was, There but we're in a, dome
so it didn't matter at. All it was always seventy
and perfect in the dump.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
WHAT i have, Here And, Kevin i'm gonna have you
be in this, too since you don't know this SO
i see it. Already but this is the top fifty
shows of all time according To Circle, ranks which there's
like ten thousand people All americans that.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Vote, okay so top fifty shows are on the list.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Currently or all time all?

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Time, okay what do you, think in your opinion is
the number one rated show of all. Time, now this
is not you picking your, favorite but what do you
think a group of two, thousand three thousand people are
putting up there as the number one show of all?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Time first thought Is The? OFFICE i was literally thinking.
This see so we're part of that same crew we think.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
That now that's my favorite show of all.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Time, yeah And i've never seen it begin and it,
Like i'm not a Huge office. Guy watch it here and,
there but that's.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
It number. Eleven, wow what About? Seinfeld The? Office good? One?

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Seinfeld you always hear people Referencing. Seinfeld maybe not number,
thirteen number Thirteen.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Friends.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
You're searching.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Them friends did not make the top fifty shows of all, time.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Not make the top. Fifty number, one great.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
SHOW i didn't start it while it was on its original.
CHANNEL i started On netflix because they had put it On.
Netflix and this is a while, ago BUT i started
watching On. Netflix they've since made a movie that came
after the show.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Concluded no idea has to do with Drugs.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Baltimore, no that would Be The.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Wire The wire does come in number.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Four oh, wow that's WHAT i has to do With New.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Mexico, oh the, One Breaking, Bad.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Breaking, bad number one of all, time number one of all.
Time number Two mobsters like the new. One, no, no,
No i'm giving. Blinders Peaky blinders is. Not they are
on the list at number. Fourteen that's a crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
One that was. Great what's the oh So? Pranos?

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, correct, yeah. OKAY i never Watched.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Spantas.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
HUH i got into it for a few. Seasons you, Quit.
HUH i just never was able to keep up with.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
IT i can see that because IF i it was,
entertaining IF i didn't focus On game Of thrones to
keep up with, it you would be.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Lost. Again the Worst game Of thrones is that on.
There it has to, Be it's got to.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Be it is number, five it's a number.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
FIVE i was gonna say a number.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
THREE i didn't. WATCH i think it was a limited
couple of seasons, NOW i. Think but it was ON
HBO I Detective no.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Great great, show, though great, show at least season.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
One it has to do Probably World war.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Two, Oh band Of. Brothers, Yes Bandon brothers was. OUTSTANDING
i watched every episode of. That and you talk about
like put you into.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Real World war. Two it Was World war? Two, Right maybe.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
We'll i've never watched, it but you might have Been
World War.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
One but it's called A band Of brothers and they
go through just everything that they went, through and it's
it's very similar To Saving Private.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Ryan if you've ever Seen Saving Private. Ryan it was
a series in a good way or bad. Way sounds
like a bad, way.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
NOESN'T i go to the movies to Watch Saving Private,
line And i'm pretty pumped about it because it's got
big stars in. It, yes put a bunch of money in,
it and it was getting great, reviews And i'm.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
In and nobody Loved america LIKE i Love. America So i'm.
In i'm ready to.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Watch i'm ready to learn a little history and ready
to be. Entertained and we watch and the opening scene
was very, emotional and So i'm, like, Wow i'm kind
of blown up by the whole. THING i feel LIKE
i missed a couple, things, though But i'm kind of
blown away by. It and probably like twelve or thirteen
minutes in the credits start running after the opening, scene
And i'm, like, well that is.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Weird i've never seen.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Him they started the movie on the final, Scene oh,
no they had it queued up in the wrong. Place oh,
no how were we to know. That we had never
seen the. Movie we didn't know how it was supposed to.
Start AND i don't want to ruin, it but it's
sad at the.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
End it's like sad but.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Hard and we watched the final scene of it and
it goes to, credits and then they come in and they're,
like we're.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
So, sorry we had the movie cued up in the wrong.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Place. Wow. Wow they wouldn't give us a.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Refund they were, like but we'll start it from the.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Beginnings.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Yep you're, like this is the most intense opening scene
and emotional opening Scene i've ever seen in my.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Life AND i felt LIKE i missed a couple of.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Things you can just, tell like there were, people people
were old and, stuff AND i was, LIKE i should be,
knowing but maybe they'll tell me.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Later, yeah they go, Back, yeah why is he back At? Okinawa?
Yeah it is.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
WHY i couldn't believe. It it's the only Experience i've ever
had like that in a movie. Theater, yeah so shame on.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Them. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Uh The wire at Four game Of thrones at five
number six is a spin off of one of those,
shows can you name the.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Show house Of. Dragons great, guess.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
But it's Not game Of thrones that it is spun off.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Of.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Potentially, oh The lawyer, one you got?

Speaker 4 (41:33):
It?

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, Uh saul better that. IS i haven't seen. That
what's it?

Speaker 5 (41:38):
Called better Call saul Because saul is his, Lawyer Walter
white's lawyer and breaking. BAD i just watched a movie
CALLED i think it's Called The nobody's Or nobody with
the same.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Guy it's.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
AWESOME i got to write down all These you you
obviously get to watch a lot more.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Television you always like do. IT i don't have five.
KIDS i KNOW i want to Watch, yeah that looks.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Good i've seen, that like it's On netflix or something
whatever it's.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
ON i saw the preview For nobody to my wife
AND i hadn't be into the movies in like four.
YEARS i don't like going to the, theater and we
went to watch f, one which was.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Awesome by the, Way i've seen.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
That, yep, NO i haven't seen.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
It we talked about and so the guy who Plays
Saw goodman has a movie Called nobody one Which i'd never.
Seen but they were doing a preview For nobody, too
AND i was, like we, dang they're making a two
one must have been. Good and he's basically a guy
that used to be in something and he knows how to,
fight but he doesn't look like an action star at.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
All and it's just NonStop butt. Whooping love. It it's.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Awesome it's it's Very john, wickish where there aren't holes
in the. Plot there's just not a lot of, plot
like they're just going back To Ben affleck had one of,
those The, accountant the second. One did you see the first?

Speaker 3 (42:52):
One?

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Yes, okay SO i did not see either one of
them in the Account it two came out and my
wife will, go, well they're making a. Sequel the first
one's probably. Good so we went and watched the account
one freaking. Awesome, yeah it's, good, Right and we watched
the account to right after and it was. Good they're
definitely a lot older And Ben affleck playing that same
character fifteen years later or whatever it.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Is it's a little, weird but it was still really.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Good And John, barenthal who plays The, punisher he's one
of the.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Best he's awesome and anything he.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
Does, yeah and his story's kind of fun, too because
he'd never wanted to be an. Actor he was an athlete,
really and he was going to like A division two,
school Maybe DIVISION, iii no. Scholarship and in order to
be an, athlete AND i think this is just generally what,
happens you have to take some sort of pe or art.
Class and so he got into an acting class because

(43:41):
he thought it was the easy, one but he got
into the harder acting. Class he signed up for the wrong. One,
yeah and so they like made him do the clay
and he got into a. Play he had to do
a play and he loved it and so That, yeah
so that's how he ended up being this great. Actor
is he signed up for the wrong. Class he's awesome
as the, punisher.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
He's great and. Everything.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, yeah It's roll With leo where he gets rich or.
Whatever he's in that one. Too he's a crazy character
in that. One watch, it, yeah Of Wall.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Street, yeah, yeah it's. Awesome, so uh SO i Watched.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Nobody, Okay, nobody that's all Lest.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
Yeah that's my my. Recommendation, also we'll finish off the
top ten. Here attack On titan from twenty. THIRTEEN i
don't know what that. IS i don't, know probably, GOOD
i don't know what that. Is chernobyl did you ever
watch that IN? Hbo, no it was, amazing and it's
the real life story Of chernobyl when it exploded nuclear

(44:34):
facility and what it did man and how it was.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Covered it was, awesome. Awesome. Yeah what's the one ON
hbo With Claire Danes remember.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
The Titans and she played a heck of a running.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Back, no she was a, detective like A cia. Operative. Yeah,
homeland it's. Amazing homeland was. Amazing. Yeah, Yeah i'm a
big LIKE cia. Operative give, me give me all of. It.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Right have you seen the? AGENCY i have seen the.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Agency not as good is Lion.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Ass but Lion ass is a little.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
Good it's just so intense more action in line as
more and more action.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Because the agency hits some of those lulls where you're just, like,
okay get get to it, already show me some.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Action it's definitely more in the meeting, rooms, yes than
lions behind the. Scenes that's always A. Doni it's freaking.
Awesome she's like the main person in Lion. Ass oh
and she might be like five foot, ONE i don't,
know it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Matter it's. Killer just get great. Role, yeah great in that. Role.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Yeah have you seen Slow. Horses, no they just renewed
it for its eighth. Season maybe it's seventh, season one
of those late, seasons but they're. Not they don't even
have like season four out. Yet oh, really it's so
good AND i never wanted to watch BECAUSE i don't
want to watch sho about.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
HORSES i watch like it's about, spies it's not about.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Horses AND i just heard Slow.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
HORSES i was, LIKE i don't want to WATCH i
don't want to Watch seabiscuit Like i'm, good and it's.
Not it's about M i six. Spies it's. Amazing the
first episode is a little, slow but it's so. Good
and obviously if they've continued to renew, it and it
may Be i'm like season six or, something BUT i
definitely would recommend that one.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Too if you liked those kind of, shows love.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
It, yeah finishing up the top ten.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Well was the one ON hbo though also with was
IT hbo Or? Netflix about the drug?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Lords This Narcos?

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Narcos, Yeah, Netflix, Netflix Pedro pascal was In. Narcos, Yes,
yeah that was. Good i'm Always sonny Of philadelphia at number. Nine,
great great, show amazing and it's just Lasted. Forever it's
like The simpsons and at number Ten Avatar Last.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
AIRBENDER i don't know about. That it's a. Show, YEAH
i Thought Family guy would make.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
It, WELL i have fifty. Here, YEAH i don't See Family.
Guys do see Ted.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Lasso is a good. ONE i do See. Succession succession
very character. Driven they did a great job of developing those.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
Characters, Yeah ozark's at twenty three was. Amazing did you
watch The?

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Penguin, no.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
So it's ON Hbo max and it's the penguin From,
batman but it's definitely not Superhero. Philly it's like The,
Sopranos well really where The penguin's not like an actual,
bird it's like a.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Guy he has a. Limp it's he's playing the Pink.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
One but because he had an act he was, born
his leg messed up and so they've taken, it made
it really.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Gritty and it's. Good The, Penguin, yeah The, penguin it's.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Good so don't be Like i'm not turned off by
A batman super villain thinking it's gonna be one of.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Those ALTHOUGH i do like superhero, shows we didn't we
want to Watch. Superman how is that pretty? Good pretty.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Good if you go into it, going, oh this is
gonna be like a comic.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Book no it's. NOT i think you'll like. It, no
it is.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
That, yeah BECAUSE i thought it was gonna be Like
Iron man Or Dark, knight where.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
A little, grittier a little more. Real, uh it's very
much comic.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Book, SEE i like.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
THAT i WISH i would have. Known that's WHAT i feel.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Like that's the.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Original, Yes, superman it's Like guardians of The.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
Galaxy, yes more so like that same guy that did the,
movie and a little less so Like Iron.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Man right in real life.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Stuff, Yeah homeland does coming at forty, One dexter's at forty.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Two dexterra was. Amazed was so good they brought it
back ten years. Later so twice was it?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Twice they've got two of just him that he's a
prequel as.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Well, yeah now He's why In New york or something like.
That i'm not SURE i saw.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
IT i never got back. IN i watched all of
the first.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Run loved.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
IT i think it was like eight. Seasons, yes, yeah
is a. PLUS i even liked the. ENDING a lot
of people didn't like the. Ending loved. It it made
me root for a serial.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Killer, yeah he has that likability factor which you don't
normally get when you're dealing with a psychopath that loves
to kill people and chop them.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
UP i Think John litgow is one of the best.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
VILLAINS i Love John, lithgow one.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Of the best. Villains he did a whole season of
that is that guy so?

Speaker 5 (48:58):
Good and then finally wrapping up the list here The
West wing at forty. SEVEN i never Watched The West,
wing but they had like hundred seasons and people love that.
Show an you guys ever Getting West?

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Wing?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
No, no BUT i remember how popular it.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Was, Ye rick And morty at forty nine.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
AWESOME i don't know that one cartoon Animated, yeah, okay oh.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
Animated, YES i call him cartoons, still but, yes it's it's.
Great and a number fifty is The.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
BEAR i Watched The. BEAR i watched one of The.
BEAR i liked. IT i just never. WAS i, mean
it's a hectic.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Show you've got to be emotionally stable to watch that.
SHOW i got into even season two when they. DID
i think it was a family reunion that they went.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
To that was the first. Season was that the first?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Season thanksgiving in The kitchen watter that.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
NIGHT i was, like how do you fall? Asleep after?
That you're so. DISTURBED i almost had to turn it
off TO i can't take.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
THIS i can't take what's going, on the, yelling the,
screen the mom like her going off of a.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
ROCKER i was just.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Like, Wow, yeah then you go chef chef, chef everyone,
everyone chef.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Chef so what's media day? Is what are you gonna
do me?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Today So we've got some interviews set up with, quarterbacks
AND i think we're going to do some fun stuff for,
socials and then we get to. GO i THINK i
get to sit down With Leacan riley for an interview with.
HIM i might do a few other coaches or players
While i'm. There and then at the same, time you're
sitting there and you get to interact with these guys
before they go up on, stage meet some of the,
players and then you do a lot of.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
Interviews tell my boy barrioed ONM i so what UP
i am going and tell THEM i give biggle kiss
on the face of my.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Song oh, Yeah i'll tell him actually exactly, that and
he'll probably start to giggle.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
And he'll probably kiss you and send it back to.
Me it'd be a telephone. Kiss that would be a
big kiss around. There thank you guys for being. Here
we'll see you guys next. Week we absolutely cannot wait
for real football to. Happen we cannot.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Wait we.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
Have we just spent fifteen minutes talking about the BEST
tv shows of all, time because that's more interesting to
talk about what's happening where camp almost.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Starts they're almost, there they we're almost. THERE i saw,
guy some guy working on his hip flexers.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Today, yes we're almost.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
There thank you.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
Guys He's Matt. Castle let's kick, Off. Kevin That's Brandon
ray over.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
There doing all the video. Work Come bobs.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
One we'll see you next. Week we've got lots to say,
Bye everybody lots to say With Bobby bones And Matt.
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