December 10, 2025 • 55 mins
Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel are looking forward to today's guest but were shocked with the Colts' interest in Philip Rivers. Bobby gives his NFL Power Rankings following the Week 14 results. The Bears fall short against the Packers, but you're seeing a positive shift in their offense. Have the Patriots gotten too good, too fast? Matt notes the number of quality teams in the NFC. We look forward to the top three matchups coming in Week 15.
14x WWE Champion Charlotte Flair talks about her training regimen and finding her way to the WWE. Charlotte started in college volleyball and explains what lessons it taught her. Matt asks about developing a character and the work that goes into that. Charlotte explains the difference in being a villain versus being a 'good' guy wrestler. How hard is it to separate yourself from your character? Bobby discusses Royal Rumble before we look at what's next for Charlotte.
Back to the NFL, Shedeur Sanders will start the remaining 4 games, so will the Browns know if he's the future? Matt offers up his concerns about the Eagles and Jalen Hurts. Bobby surprises Matt with a clip from his playing days and the one punt of his career!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots, Just say, we got lots to say?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
What better here?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
And we hope you said because we got lost? Just
say yeah, we got lots. Just say here's that.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Everybody welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We have Charlotte Flair coming up from WWE, who is
fourteen time world champion Rich Flair's daughter. She had a
massive ACL injury a year off, came back won the
role rumble.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So Charlotte Flair coming up, pretty excited about that.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Matt, how are you, Budy, I'm doing great, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
How are you? Charlotte Flair? Let's go fourteen times? You
said I did say that. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty impressive.
You got good energy.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
What's the championship? I mean, what's what's What's so? She won?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Like NXT. Is she the most.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Decorated Yes, she's the most decorated female female in WWE history.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think Sina has won it seventeen times. As seventeen,
I think that's the number, and I think she is
most decorated female at fourteen, but hers have been because
the women's division, we'll call it that has really grown
in the past decade to where it is up there
with the men's For a while, it was just like
(01:27):
a side show way back in the early days. For sure,
they even had like glow the gorgeous ladies of wrestling,
but now so sexist. It's real and they're awesome and
sometimes those storylines are better than what the dudes have
going on. And so she won NXT, then I think
she won Divas, she's won, she hat be on SmackDown.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Now I get a little lost.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
There's a lot of wrestling shows that you have to follow,
for sure, it's a lot. I mean, the one person
I don't think I would really want to ever wrestle,
even if they're doing WW is Ron Drowsy.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
She just looks like she's going to hurt somebody.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And she was a wrestler for a while. She headlined
WrestleMania with Charlotte. It was her as a three. It
was Becky Lynch, whose name is the man?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Do you know her?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Becky Lunch is awesome Exeth Rollin's wife.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
No, I don't know her.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
She's Irish, I think, and when she talks, he's like.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Is there anything better than a good Irish accent.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's so good. She's awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And all three of those headline WrestleMania first women to
ever do it.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
That's a really impressive. Actually.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, So I I like wrestling. I don't get to
watch a lot of it. I do watch the Summer slams.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I do one of those.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, that was here in Town Football Stadium a few
years ago. I do watch WrestleMania both nights. I do
watch Royal Rumble, which is my favorite event.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But I don't get is that where they just lock
them in the cage and they absolutely destroy each other.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No, Royal Rumble is where they start out with.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
You laughed and looked at me like you are such
an idiot.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
My bad.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I got things going on, and so do I. Yeah,
but you love wrestling, I do. I do watch the wrestling.
I do watch the big events, and I do keep
up with it. Okay, so the Royal Rumble they put
two people in the ring too, and then every I
think two minutes, somebody's music goes off that you don't
know who it is, and somebody else comes down and
(03:13):
jumps in and once they get thrown over the top
rope through out so it's basically last man in the ring.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Last man's standing. Yeah, king of the castle, King of
the Castle, that one. So you're just throwing just throw
them out of the ring and you're so they have
to go over the top. So how many how many
individuals are we talking?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Thirty?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
There's thirty people in the ring greatest because you never
know who's coming out, and every year there's always four
or five or six or seven people that either you
haven't seen wrestle in ten years or I think I
show Speed showed up and he wrestled.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
He wasn't supposed to be part of the storyline, and Triple.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
H was like Speed, you got to get out there,
and then he goes out and gets speared and it's
one of the hardest shots I've ever seen taken. It
was fantastic. It's my favorite event because you don't know
who is going to come out.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
In this year.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, we should have like a watch party, which we
should stream up.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Need to do this with my kids, like get a
ring upstairs, all right, every two minutes, I'm going to
introduce a song of your picking a song. Yeah you
just said an intro song, right, and they come down
and they yeah, but then people come down. Yeah, one
of my kids come down. I've got five of them.
Are you going to bring in other kids? They don't
know what's coming? That would be awesome. Bullies on the block.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Glad everybody's here. Thanks for hanging out with us. I'm
anxious to get started, are you yeah? You want to
go for I want to give you first overall pick
up the topics because for those that have never watched
or listened to the show before, we don't know what
each other's going to bring, and so we kind of
have free ball it whenever he says something, I hopefully
I know enough about it, but we might have the
same topic on our page.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So I want to give you first overall pick.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Okay, first overall pick.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We now know the direction that the Colts are going
to go, Philip Rivers, I mean forty four dust off
the old Cannon.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
That's why it's giving you first pack.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Because I know that you're going to go there.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I mean because the Colts, let's be honest, after Daniel
Jones goes down, they have really a lot of an
experience beneath him. But I felt so bad Number one
for Daniel Jones the season that he was having up
to that point. He was playing with a fractured fibula,
and then he blows out his achilles. It's just you
never want to see somebody leave the game in that capacity,
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especially because you know that injury can take a lot
of time to come back from. But I mean, the
Colts needed somebody, and I cannot believe it, but old
Philip Rivers, man, he's still coaching ball, so he's probably
in shape.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
They just finished the season, literally, Old Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, he's forty four, right, dude, he's got.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Somebody a year a little over a year ago in Alabama.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I bet he still looks good. I'm not bad. He
didn't look like he was in Rothlisberger shape.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Like, yeah, So this is what I know sucks for
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Suck.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He was already gutting through it. He was obviously hurt.
Then a tear's achilles, which is going to be nine
months to a year. And then we've seen the quarterbacks
that have come back. You're not even right when you
come back, even when you are cleared, if you're Aaron
Rodgers cousin, cousin, takes you another year to really get back.
He's gonna be a free agent too. That also sucks,
especially after the year he was having. Now here's what's
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terrible for the Colts. Anthony Richardson gets hitting the eye
with a ball pre game, fractures an orbital bone. He's
out there, Riley Leonard. He's questionable to even play next
week because he had a leg injury. He was the
quarterback that went in after Daniel Jones. He gets hurt,
wildly inexperienced, obviously a rookie, but he's also hurt. So
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they bring in Philip Rivers Monday night as we're recording this,
it was last night to work out sign him to
the practice squad. He has a relationship, so he grew
up right down the road from Riley Leonard. Different ages,
but like he mentored Riley Leonard a little bit. They
grew up near each other. He's also played because he
played with the Colts for a while. He played with
Jonathan Taylor, he played with the lineman Nelson, Quentin Nelson,
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and he also played with Pittman. I believe he did
so while they were all there, so there's some familiarity there.
I can't imagine they're gonna roll and might have him
throw forty five times next week. I hope they do,
and I hope he throws for five hundred yards. It's
a fun story if he comes and plays okay, But
he's been.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
A pocket pasterer for his whole career. I'm sure he's
still got his the footwork and he's been throwing a
little bit. But it is pretty wild when you've been
out of the game for what now, how many years
has he been out?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Four years? Has it been that one? Four or five years? Yeah,
he's up for the Hall of Fame already five years.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Because he's up for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
You're right, he is. Does now?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Does that delay that for another five and you can
go back in as the first ballot soon?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yes, as soon as you take a snap, you're five
years again. Let's go one snap in a game. You're
off the ballot for five years. Dude, I'm telling you,
this is a great story.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's like the Rookie the movie, the Disney movie where
the old guy goes back. Now, he had never played before,
but I can't imagine anybody being older than him. Aaron
Rodgers or Joe Flacco. I believe they're the oldest too.
And I don't think they're as old as Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
No, Aaron Rodgers is forty two, Black Goes forty.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Rogers has got to be forty two. Yeah, forty two. Yeah,
that's good.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
That's like me, that's like you. Let's why can't we
get there? Dude, I've got less kids, so less responsibility.
I don't have a grandchild. I mean I definitely have
a You're right, yes he has a grandchild. That maybe
he is the first guy, that's what I want to know,
first guy to ever start or playing a game that's
an official grandpa.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Probably probably not, but still, that's that's wild.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah. Yeah, Brett Favre Farva was a grandpa and grandpa
in his final season twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Wow, I'm really rooting for him, and that would be
such a great story if he comes out and it's
pretty good and they win because.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
They're still in the mix. It's them and the Jaguars, right, the.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Wheels are falling off fast, really fast. If Joe Flacco
can do it, I think I hope Fla.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Has at least been in the game over the last
so many years. It's a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It's got to be crazy for those students too, that
were on his high school team, because when he's coaching,
he's the guy that used to play in the NFL.
And I'm sure that's really cool. Some of them probably
didn't even remember him playing. However, now their coach is
going to be playing. They're gonna be able to watch
their coach go back and play and start at quarterback.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Don't kid yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Every one of those kids are going to be in
the stadium that first game in their own section.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
He's getting them all tickets. That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, it's a good story. I'm glad you brought that.
If you didn't, I was coming that with that, I
figured you would. I'll do my power rankings.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Yes, I love power rankings.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Just missing the list this week at number six the
Kantada Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I knew that was going to be right there. I mean,
I was wondering if they were still gonna be in
the top five.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
But they're not. Yeah, sadly, sadly.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
They're six and seven. Now.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
If they win these final four games, they they could
be still possibly be in the mix. But they've got
two tough games. They've got the Chargers and Broncos. They've
got two easy wins, which are the Raiders and Titans.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
So I did go on.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
DraftKings and bet them to make the playoffs. They were
like plus three point thirty, so they're not expected to
make the playoffs. Well, let's see right now for the
wild cards. You've got the Bills, You've got Houston.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
The Bills could still win their division though because they're
playing there.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
They could still win their division. But still you got
then the Patriots would be a wild card. Then you've
got Houston right now as a wild card team, and
the final wild card team.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Why am I blanking Colts and Ravens in the Hunt?
Colts Ravens And what's the Colton Ravens record right now?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Eight Colds eight and five, Ravens six and.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So if the Ravens are in the hunt at six
and seven, so are the Chiefs because they're six and.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Seven, like two games behind.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, yeah, yes, but.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm saying if we're putting I love the end the
Hunt graphic, and it's it's a meme itself in the hunt.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
If the End the Hunt graphic is up, and they've.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Got the Ravens at six and seven, who just lost
to the Steelers, by the way, and I think something's
wrong with Lamar, even though they're not saying it. Also,
Baker Mayfield put them on the list of people that's
probably hurt that there'sn't play through and they're not telling
us what's up. If Baltimore is in a six and
seven in the hunt, the Chiefs have to be in
a six and seven in the hunt.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
They're still in the hunt, but in the hunt on
the graphic though, graphic wise there they got to be
in the hunt always the Hut and the Dolphins got
to be six.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And the Bengals technically technically technically not really they've got
what four wins?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a tough task.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So Canslon Chiefs. Chiefs would be my number.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Six, number six.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
So we've now gone to our ratings have gone from
top five to top six.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, no, that's my division at number five, number five.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
The Bills at nine and four, Like the Bills do
have a massive opportunity to move up because they are
playing the Patriots next.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
They do Inner Division and AFC.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Oh it's a playoff game, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So the Bills at nine and four, a gutsy home
snow win against the Bengals down by ten, and what
started off as a purely offensive spec ended with two
defensive interceptions.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And that was Those were the plays of the game.
That's what swung it all for them, and one of them. Look,
Burrow was doing the right thing. He saw it on
the screen. No, it was a corner blitz, actually a
corner blitz off the edge, and so the receiver Jamar
Chase was in a cut split. So what happens is
on that we call it a side adjust, which is
kind of like a hot to the front side, but
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on the weak side we call it side Just so
you see a secondary player coming that's unblockable, they're going
to adjust their route. So he's going to get with
towards the sideline and just be ready for the ball.
Trying to get the ball out quick. Joe just didn't
get enough height on it because it was a cut splitty.
The guy closed that distance quickly was able to tip
the ball up or catch the ball and take it back.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
But it was the right decision.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It just unfortunately for Joe Burrow, he didn't get it
over that defender. They always gotta say, you got to
make that guy mess. I was like Yeah, it's easier
said than done. So I understand everyone was like, that
was the worst pick I've ever seen. I was like, no,
that's exactly what he was supposed to be doing. It
just unfortunately didn't work out. And then then then the
next one was a tipball. By the way, as quarterbacks,
there's nothing more frustrating in the world than a tip
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ball at the land scrimmage and then interception. I'm just
gonna say that out loud.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
It turns.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It turns me on when you go full quarterback on me,
Like he just turns into the incredible Hawk because he's,
you know, mister energy. He's having a good time. All
of a sudden he's like, go bug split for the four two.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So like, yeah, right, like.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
These I swear this chair every week, I just like
and I just slide down and then by the time
I'm here.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I'm like, god, I gotta get up.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
The number four.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
The pack was big win over Chicago. The Bears do bars.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The Bears are no longer than number one seed. Me
an FC, they were, they were not anymore. A big
one for the Packers. Those who have to play again,
I think next not after this week. They play the
Broncos this week, So big game for both the Broncos
and the Packers. But I think after that they then
go to Soldier Field in Chicago and play the Sucker.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
But I also think Chicago put them on notice, like, hey,
it's a great game, we're here for it. And even
that last play that got intercepted by Caleb Williams, I mean,
the tight end had he had separation on the back end,
if you just put more trajectory on that ball, there's
a possibility right there that that's a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
There's no doubt about it. So it was a great game.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Though Caleb Williams makes so many, I mean four or
five great athletic drive saving plays and then makes a
couple of still bone heads. But I feel like you're
starting to see that shift where it's more of the
good and less of the crazy bad. There's still some
of that crazy bad that rears its head at times,
sure because it hasn't been coached out of him yet, yep,
but you can really see that he's going to be
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a really good quarterback.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I mean, and he's only in year two. And if
you even go back to college, right, he didn't really
start his first year he played two full years of college,
won the Heisman Trophy in his first year as a
star at USC, So he hasn't played that much football
comparatively speaking to some of these other guys that have played,
and like you said, he is absolutely incredible at all
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the spectacular plays, and then it's just sometimes it's those
intermediate routes where he'll just miss and I'm like, he's
so much better than that. But the growth and maturation
process of this kid has been fun to watch this year.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Number three, the Patriots eleven and two. They're going to
play the Bills.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Patriots eleven two. What I like?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
They play pretty much disciplined football. Early they didn't, there
was some real struggles our league. Yeah, they lost to
the Raiders. Yes, I think now they play very disciplined football,
and I think that's just a Rabel system. But when
you have so many coaches whose job it is to
find kinks in the armor, cracks in the system, and
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the Patriots are being glazed all the time. Their quarterback
is I think second for MVP right now, drag Man
number two.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Second, he's got to be the Price Stafford one.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, I would think that's the case. Yep, that eventually.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
According to the rules of the NFL, you can only
climb so high before somebody knocks you down eventually, and
I think that's going to be the Bills.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I think it's going to be a great game.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I don't want it to be.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I want the Patriots to win, right, but I to
be eleven and two this early, this.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Early, and Mike Rabels' first year as your head coach
at the Patriots, coming off a four win season, a
lot of dramatic change in terms of personnel, a lot
of young receivers. I mean, this is a young, young
football team. But what I think, for me, the thing
that's impressive is that they're getting it done in three phases.
Special teams has been a really important part of their success.
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Defenses come together collectively. Now they still have their holes.
They gave up some rushing yards against the Giants and
all that stuff, and they're going to have to figure
that out. But then the offense and the way that
Drake may is playing, and some of the young talent
that they've been able to bring in through the draft
like Trayvon Henderson and guys like that that are immediate
impact players. It's it's a team that his future is
(17:18):
really bright. Speaking of bright, and it could be this year.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Stafford number one, by the way, yeahs may number two. Yeah,
which is crazy to think he's a second year a guy.
You know my think about second year guys.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
You know what I get it. You know who won
a super Bowl in the second year? Brady. I'm just
saying he did.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, but he didn't start the whole season.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
He started week three on Okay, you heard what I said. Okay,
that's true, saying.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, uh number two. The Seahawks, Yes, big jump up,
big jump. They're playing the Colts next week. Were they
honorable mentioned last week? No? I don't think so. They
may not even be in the top five because they
had just got beat by the Rams. But I thought,
and then number one is the Rams, and I have
to Miami notre dame them because head to head one,
so you got to put him in. But I have
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the Rams at number one, ten and three versus the
Lions next week, that'll be a big one. That'd be
a big one for the lot more so the Lions.
That NFC is wild because it's just full of good teams. Yeah,
like not a team that you go, I'm going to
bet the farm on any one of the teams. But
there's so much parody in the NFC side. There's like
six teams that I feel like could represent the NFC
(18:23):
in the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
There's no doubt, and especially in the NFC West because
we're not talking about the forty nine ers, who obviously
have had a lot of injuries and all that stuff.
But just think about that division alone. They're all right
there in the mix. But they've only got three four
losses total, and they're all competing for that and they're
going to play each other down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Ram Seahawks, Packers, forty nine ers, they didn't make the list,
but that's also an FC team. Like Fred Warner's not
coming back, No, but pretty much everybody else is right because.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Buss are coming back.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, he isn't coming back at all too, which true.
Do we still feel like they could win at all?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It would be really difficult, but they still have Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Look, that guy's awesome. Some brock perty has been playing well.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
They've got a good enough team to where they can
compete with anybody, and they're very well coached. The lines
are coming on, they are, But you go back two
weeks ago when they played the Packers and it didn't
look like they.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Were coming weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Though the NFL, week by week, we make our judgments
based on how you played last week.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Okay, that's why the Chiefs are honorable mention at six.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well, they'd be like thirty one if it were about
last week. Although the Texans, man, their defense is so good, gosh,
they're good good.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Between them, the Texans I think have the best defense
in the NFL, and I could argue that with anybody.
The second best defense Denver Broncos. Yeah, I'd say those
are the two best defense. They're just dominant. They can
rush for and get to the passer, and they're so disruptive.
And the quarterbacks you can just you watch those games
and you're amazed because they have a split second to
(19:57):
make a decision. If you if the ball's not out,
you're getting hit or you're getting the.
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(20:24):
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Speaker 5 (20:27):
I mean some of those in crunch time.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I mean, he is one of those guys that can
put the team on his back at any moment and
take over a game.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
You're going Pats. I'm going Bills, Okay. Lions at Rams,
Lions at Rams.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Lions have to win this one or they really need
to win this one, versus the Rams, who don't really
have to unless but they are trying to keep that
number one seat.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
They want to keep the number one seed. I'm gonna
go with Rams at home.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah, it's hard for me to go against Stafford and
also travel everything else that goes on.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I mean, home field advantage.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Is real Packers at Broncos. I'm gonna go crazy here
and go Packers in an upset?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Is it an upset? What's the spread here?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I don't know the spread, but I think the Broncos
are probably if I'm guessing Broncos are probably one and
a half point underdog. We'll go to Kevin in a
second to get the official here, But I'm going to go.
I mean, I don't think that it's it's crazy either way.
What do you see two and a half? Green Bay
is favored by two and a half.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yy. That's close.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm going with Dream Bay. That defenses the defensive.
I think it's going to be a defensive battle between
these two guys.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know what's screwed. I'm gonna go to the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I like it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (22:32):
We will talk to Charlotte Flair next.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
All right, let's get over now to talk with WWE
superstars Charlotte Flair. Charlotte is a fourteen time WWE Women's
World Champion. She is the daughter of legendary wrestler Rick Flair,
and despite being one of the most decorated women in
WWE history, Charlotte grew up playing volleyball, even played in college,
did not originally plan to go into wrestling. And if
you have not watched the Netflix documentary Unreal, I recommend
(23:12):
you do it because a big part of that is
focused on her and her story.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Big thanks to Charlotte for coming on here. She is
Charlotte Crown. Hey, Charlotte, big fans, thank you for coming
on our show.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
No, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
We were just talking about injuries a second ago and
Matt here who played in the NFL for a decade.
My question to him is always after every game, does
something hurt? And I've watched so many of your matches
and I want to ask you the same question, like
it every match does something hurt after?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
No? But I think the small random bruises are what
hurt the most. Like I'll have a random bruise on
my forum, I'm like, why does that hurt so bad?
I don't even think I hit my forearm.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Can you watch the match back and then see where
you hit your forearm to kind of match up you
puzzle together the bruises.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
If I went back and watched, I probably could.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, to know how you keep yourself so physically fit
and what your training regimen is when you're on the road,
because it is a rigorous schedule for you. You guys
are always traveling in so I just want to know
what that looked like from a nutrition standpoint and from
a workout standpoint.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
I think it's just making the time for what is
important to you.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
For me, I feel being athletic, being in shape, keeping
up with my training has what's kept me in the game.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
And Plus I just like it consistent, consistency.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I always like to work out before I go, you know,
to the show.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
It kind of is like my decompressor.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Think what I'm going to do to today, do for
the day, think of my promo, what the max is
going to be like, kind of gets me in the mood.
But everyone's a little different. I know some of the
wrestlers like to go get a coffee. Maybe they'll go,
you know, to their favorite breakfast place. For me, it's like, okay,
I like the hotel gym, or if I've been in
the city before and i know they have a really
good gym, I'll go to that gym. It's just part
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of my routine. Everyone has their own routine that we're
for them.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Are you ever in like a small hotel's gem like
a Super eight a Ramada and someone is looking at you, going,
there's no chance that's Charlotte Flair working out in this
hotel gym.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Sometimes.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I was actually in Milan last summer and the guy
was like, are you Charlotte Flair?
Speaker 7 (25:22):
And I was like yes, He's like, what are you
doing in Milan? I'm like, all just passing through her work.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
It was so random because half the time I'm like, oh,
no way, there's no way anyone's gonna recognize me because
I'm like, my hair is a mess, no makeup.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Have a hoodie on. But the guy was like, oh
my gosh, it was really it was wild.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And college you were a great volleyball player. Could you
tell us a little bit about what you found out
about the skills that you had in volleyball and how
if any translated to the actual ring.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I definitely am a better wrestler, but playing sports my
whole life, has definitely taught me, you know, team values, leadership, competitiveness.
I always think it's interesting talking to a wrestler that
doesn't have any kind of athletic background, or if they've
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never played a sport, how does competition come to them
or is it really just the entertainment value of it,
Because like, I'm just competitive by nature. Like everything I
want to do, I want to be the best.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
At Matt's wife was an All American at USC volleyball players,
so obviously their kids have tremendous genes because they're both
like exceptional athletes when you were playing, and obviously you
have great genes too, based on you know, your family
and your lineage. But whenever you were playing volleyball, did
you have goals of playing it in Europe, like going
overseas to play professionally at all?
Speaker 7 (26:45):
I did bet volleyball.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Gabrielle Rees was like my role model, so I know,
junior and senior year of high school, all I wanted
to do was play in college. And then I got
to college, and then in my personal life my parents separated.
I think my overall goals and what I wanted kind
of changed. And I was also like the first time
I was on my own, So when I quit volleyball,
I definitely became lost. And then those dreams of being
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on the cover of USA Volleyball magazine were kind of
lost under just the change, the changes.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
That were going on in my family. I mean, I
didn't know any different.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
So it's like I got to college, my parents weren't
not necessarily there for me, but they were having their
own issues. So I was kind of I don't know,
I was kind of lost myself when I stopped playing,
but that was like, those were goals of mine when
I was in high school.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You talked about being lost, but then obviously you made
the decision to go into wrestling. And what led to
that decision.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Ultimately, Ultimately, I believe it was April or May. April
April of twenty twelve, the Four Horsemen were inducted into
the Hall of Fame, and me and my little brother
went to Miami with my dad and we were at
dinner with one of the producers for WW at the time,
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and the producer and my dad we're really trying to
get my brother on the right path and able to
get into w W because it was always my little
brother's dream. And then the producer looked at me at
dinner that night and was like, Hey, why aren't you
doing this? And I kind of was like, oh, I
don't know. I never, you know, pictured myself as Michelle
McCool or Tory Wilson or Kelly Kelly. But when he
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said it to me, my little brother was like, huh,
what about me? But he was like, my nickname was Winki.
He was like, Winky, you could do this, Like dude,
we could do it together. And then three months later,
after that dinner, I reached out to Hunter Levec Triple
h or my boss now, and I was like, you know,
(28:45):
I want to give this a go. And then the
rest is history. So really I started wrestling for my
little brother, which was his dream and then turned into mine.
It was really not I never dreamed about being a
professional wrestler, never saw myself in my dad's shoes or
getting into the business. Like I knew I could do
the athletic part, but the glam and the beauty like
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definitely didn't come natural to me, especially being an athlete
my whole life, which now it's like, oh.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
You could you know, be both.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Whenever you go.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
When you first start training, like you say you've committed.
The first couple weeks, few weeks days, is it all
you just taking bumps to see if you really want
to do this?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Is it really hard? At first? Just to test you.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I was kind of like, oh, this doesn't feel good,
Like this hurts, like the ropes hurt, the matt hurts.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Falling, as you say, taking a bomp is not natural.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
So the first day when my dad and my little
brother took me to a ring in Charlotte, North Carolina
at high spots just to like fill it out.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
So my dad was like, I don't even know if
you're gonna like this.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
It's not taking bumps, it's just like whoa like the
surface isn't steady. It's like it's not bouncy, it's not hard,
but it's it's definitely different. And then the cables don't
feel good and you're just like, oh wait, this is
way harder than it looks.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
Like of course people make it look easy, but I
don't know. It's just for me when it.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Was like, oh, this challenge is presenting itself. Okay, I'm
going to figure out how to do this, and I'm
going to figure out how to be good at it.
That was my mindset, even though like it didn't feel
good and I think I broke my nose the first
week of trying it.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
How long did it take you to develop your character
and be comfortable in that role?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Oh, I think I'm ever evolving, forever trying to develop.
Definitely the first two years I didn't even like know
where to put my hands on my entrance, like it
did not come natural. The athleticness and like the the
moves and the end, the okay I can put a
match together came easy. But the emotion, finding a character
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of the charisma, I think for me that just hasn't stopped.
Like obviously, okay, you're Rick Flair's kid. So that was
obviously something you just can't hide from. So either I
was going to own it and embrace it or let it,
you know, swallow.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Me old whenever you're you know, designing your wardrobe. And
this is gonna be a very inside baseball question just
from working just from working in television. Do they give
you like a stipend or are you supposed to pay
for it all yourself?
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Like how does that?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Because I have a clothing allowance and my company gives
me every year to buy suits for events or if
I'm hosting stuff, or when I did idle, they was like,
here's all this money for clothes. How does that work
with you because you have some elaborate, crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
No, it's up to you to invest in yourself and
you know what your character, the vision you have, what
your character would wear, what it's like.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
So no, that's all part of what I invest into Charlotte.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
That's incredible, artistic in so many ways that I don't have.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
But I feel like I get it back just because
I'm putting all of that into the character. For me,
Like every character is different, Like some characters don't need
to where Peacock feathers, but that's what I have envisioned
for mine. So like, yeah, sometimes it's like, oh, spending
a lot on this, but I know I it's what
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I love to do. It's my passion, so I feel
like it's going to the right place.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
So that you're arguably one of the most iconic villains
all right in the business. Is it hard being the villain?
And also how do you know that you've done your
job when the audience just absolutely despises you after a match?
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Well, I think it's harder to be lightd it's easier
to be disliked.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
M No.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I mean I when you're doing something wrong is when
you're not getting a response from the audience. So whether
it's for me booze cheers or wooz, I, as long
as the fans are engaging, I'm like, that's a win.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And you say it's harder to be liked, I guess
it's easier to be bad because universally, a lot of times,
when you know, you presented yourself, you were like you're
like the show, You're like, I am the greatest, I
come from the greatest. You know that probably a pretty
simple presentation. But to be a good guy. I would
think there's more nuance in that.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Because you don't want to be fake and new like
a cartoon character, but you also want to be liked.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Well, it's funny because I'm a good guy right now,
and I think for me, after being on the main
roster for ten years, it's the first time it's an
organic or I'm in an organic position of being a
good guy where they truly do.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Like me and want to see me succeed. But it's
more because.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I've kind of let down the wall of the queen
being so perfect, where I'm like, if you would have
told me ten years ago, like hey, it's okay, you know,
to fall or to not succeed or not to win
or not to be the best. People want to be
able to relate to you. And for so long I
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made this character that wasn't relatable because I'm like, Okay,
she's got.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
To be the best.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
She has to have the best clothes, she has to
be the best in the ring, she has to be
the best on the mic, like everything best, best, best.
I mean, yes, it's amazing that over ten years I've
become the most decorated female in the history of the company,
But there's so much more to what makes these characters special,
and I'm like starting.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
To realize coming back around.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
It's like there's so many other nuances that make you
likable that I kind of missed along the way. So
it's like I'm not starting I'm definitely not starting over.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
But now I'm like, oh, it not that it's.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Hard to be a good guy, but the character can
be more relatable and that's what I'm learning, Like, it
wasn't that hard.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
It was just I had to let my wall down.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Because I feel like I'd such a chip on my
shoulder being Flair's kid, because it's like, no matter what
I do, it's like, your dad's still Rick Flair, and
people still want to talk about Rick Flair, and by
no means is out a negative. I could talk about
my dad all day, like he and what he means
to the industry, what he means to me, But as
like as a professional and someone in the business, you know,
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it's I definitely had that chip on my shoulder and
I've carried it with me this whole time.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
When I played, I found it hard sometimes to go
home and not take my job with me, and obviously
for what you do in your persona as the Queen.
How do you separate who you are in the ring
versus who you are outside the ring? And is it
ever a conflict?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
So for so long I used to say, oh, I
wish I was more like my character in my real life,
like I'm not as put together or perfect or as
confident as the Queen looks. But when really what's like
made the character special over this last year is.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Not being like that when I was like, oh, those.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Things do make me like unique and special, and that's
really the message that I should be putting out there,
you know for kids who were watching, because I feel
like that's the most important part of our not even
the job is like you know, we do it for
the fans and the ww universe is the heartbeat of
what we do. And being a role model for you know,
(36:23):
boys and girls and teenagers is really special because I
don't think I don't know what I mean. I don't
even feel like when I say, oh, I have a job,
like it's not a job to me. It's like I
get to wake up and do this every day.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I have two nerdy final questions for you, and they're
nerdy as in wrestling so I want to go first
to WrestleMania. I remember I was you you Becky lunch
Ron Rowsey, and I have that gear for my wall.
And what's great is it was the first time that
you know that women to headlined WrestleMania, and it was
a massive event. And I remember just thinking, I wonder
(36:59):
if they've put extra pressure on themselves since it's they're
the first, Like were you so hyped up going into
it or was or were you so calm because you
had to counter that.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
For that specific first ever.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
I just remember my entrance was I came in a
helicopter and I just remember walking down the ramp and
being like I said I was going to main event
WrestleMania in twenty and fourteen in media, and everyone just
kind of thought that I was saying it for a
headline or to get attention, Like no one ever thought
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that was going to be a possibility. So when I
when I was walking down the ramp, but thirty five
in met life, I was like, I did exactly what
I said I was going to do, and I'm exactly
where I should be. So I wasn't don't I don't
know if this is the phrase, like I was in
my bag, like I knew, like I believed everything I
was and I was meant to be one of the
three of those like me, Rond and Becky were meant
(37:55):
to be there that night because it was the best
story that whole year.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
My final question is, and I love WrestleMania, but my
favorite event as a fan is watching roll Rombol because
you just don't know who's gonna come out.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
It's just the best.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
And after you've been injured and you've been out for
a long time and you came back and I think
you were twenty six, twenty seven, it was near the end. Obviously,
you come out and you win Royal Rumble, and like,
I don't know you, but I was like pumped for
you because anybody fighting back from an injury, a long
term injury.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Like I know what that's like, and so I was
super pumped for you.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Although I was nervous, like anytime you're up on the term,
but I was nervous you were gonna rehurt yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
You're in a knee brace the whole thing right like
I'm watching it all. When you finished it, it was bedazzled.
Yes were you?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Did you already know that you had the capability to
do all the moves or did you wait to try
some of that stuff until you were in the ring.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Oh, I just waited till I was in the ring
for some of the stuff. But there is a school here.
I'm gonna get flatbacks. A shout out one of my
favorite coaches. His name is Tyler Well too. Tyler Breeze
and ty Dillinger helped get me back in ring shape
because for where I'm at, I guess in my career
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it was more about getting my wind back and feeling
comfortable in the ring instead getting in the ring and like.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Needing to do all these moves.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
So I was very much prepared from a cardio standpoint,
and ring shape is much different than getting on a
treadmill at the gym and running for twenty minutes or
sprinting or the Staremaster.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
Like those things can be hard.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
But I say this to a lot of the new girls,
but you can literally just like blow yourself up on
your entrance because you're so nervous. So that's where you're like,
slow down, take those breath, take take take those minutes
and time. So I like had all that down, but no,
like I remember what you said when when I got
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on the top to go, I wasn't nervous about those things.
It was more nervous of I had been off for
over a year, and when you're not at work, you're
not on. Like I didn't have to pretend to be
the queen or I didn't have to be the queen
or eliciting motions from seventy thousand people.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
So it was like when you've been off in a way,
you're like will they remember me?
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Or when your music hits, are you gonna feel like
you know that bad? You know?
Speaker 7 (40:18):
You are like how do you get mentally there?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Because I hadn't I hadn't had to get there, or
I'd never been injured that long. So that was also
like mentally tasking when anyone's who dealt with an injury,
it's like the machine keeps going, but you're like trying
to figure out how you like, how do you get
in that mental space where it was just go, go
(40:41):
go for so long.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, my final question would be, since you've achieved so much,
fourteen time world champion, what is the next mountain that
you're looking to achieve in the WWE.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Well, the first easy answer is I really want to
main event WrestleMania again, whether it's Night one or Night two.
That's you know, the easy answer. But I think personally
and per professionally, it's continuing to grow as a character
and show layers and really take this, you know, baby face,
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run to wherever it's going. Because I don't think anyone
in the ww universe had Alexa Bliss and I on
their BINGO card as one of the fan favorite duos
for twenty twenty five, So I'm really excited to see
what twenty twenty six holds for us.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Charlotte, We really appreciate the time, massive fan, thanks for
hanging out with us. And you guys follow Charlotte at
Charlotte WWE and yeah, thank you. Just a big fan
and glad you're healthy and looking forward to to watching
you on D say TV, we say TV, cable tellers, Yeah,
I guess and I just watched it on my phone. Yeah, Flexor, ESPN, Plesure, ESPN,
(41:50):
My Charlotte.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Thanks Charlotte, Thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Okay, My second point is I do want to spend
a minute with Shadar Sanders and talking about him, and
I have been an advocate of his and have Also,
I tried to be honest about his performance. I love
his dad, had a relationship with his dad, not romantic,
just friends, just a loving relationship. Yes, so I was
rooting for Shuter and let's go. He's played in four games,
(42:31):
he started three games, so we got really a body
of work of three games, seven hundred and seventy passing yards,
five touchdowns, three interceptions.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
But let's look at the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
That was a win.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
That was when Shouldar comes out, goes eleven for twenty
for two h nine a touchdown interception. It was, hey,
this guy might be pretty good against the forty nine
ers a loss. He was sixteen for twenty five for
one forty nine and a touchdown, a bad loss.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Forty nine ers are good.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Forty niners are really good. But no turnovers. That's very important.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Then it was the narrative was, maybe he's not that good.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Looked last week they did lose thirty one twenty nine,
but he went twenty three to forty two for three
sixty four, three touchdowns in an interception. I'm gonna be
as unbiased as I absolutely can be about Shoulder. He
does have two good performances, but they were against basically
the worst two teams in the league. He had a
big yardage game against the Titans, now they lost. He
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wasn't in at the end of the game for the
two point conversion. Yeah, all those things happen, and we
could go through that all day. My point is, even
his successes have been against such bad teams, I don't
think we've got an accurate read or not on whether
he's good. He could be good. They've given him the
rest of the year. They say he's gonna start the
last four games of the year. Good sost Fancy's like,
(43:45):
we're in shoulder is our guy? We have four I
think him playing better teams is going to give us
a better look if he's actually good or not, because
I don't think you can go Raiders at and Titans.
Those teams are terrible. Yeah, you can't look at those
teams and say he's last. Yes, and the forty nine
Ers game not a great game. So I think we're
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at square one with Shuar at this point, and he's
the guy. I'm also not he's not the guy, but
I do want to look at his whole body of work,
and he's played well against bad teams and bad against
good teams.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I think he's got four games to prove himself.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
And if he doesn't and the Browns get one of
those top picks, do they go and draft a quarterback,
because they'll have a top five pick, and you've got
a few quarterbacks in there that could be selected in
those picks, you.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Could be And I think for Shaudor, it's always a
tough circumstance as a quarterback to come in at the
juncture in the season that he did. Right, he was
thrown in because Dylan Gabriel got hurt. But then he
starts getting starts, and every start you learn something, you
start getting better. What's impressive to me is leading up
to that point, he probably got no first team snaps.
He got limited practice stats with the receivers on the field,
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the communication, hearing, the cadence with the offensive lineman, building
that rapport because look, you're running practice squad.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
So the fact that he's.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Been able to come in and not play extraordinarily well,
but play well enough to see that he's making progress.
You can see some of the big time throws that
he's made. There's some highlight reel plays on there that
you're like, Okay, I see it now, it's just consistently
do it.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
And as you said, it's about better competition. Now.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
It's also somewhat unfair to evaluate him against the big
dogs in the NFL right now because he's playing on
a team that's lacking little dogs have little dogs yet,
but he's played on a team that's struggling offensively from
a wide receiver and the weapons that they have, offensive lines,
so on and so forth. So that's a lot to
put on a young quarterback and say, go win ball
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games against good slash elite competition. But as long as
he keeps moving forward, taking care of the football. You
see the pocket presence, you see his instincts. He's got
natural instincts back there, and I saw that going back
to college.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
Also his toughness.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
So if he can make an impression over these last
four weeks and continue to build on some of these
performances and do it against the better competition, then maybe
he makes a case for himself.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Going in the next year, and maybe they won't have
to draft a quarterback, because I think they have to
draft a quarterback if they don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah, and they've got they need a lot of help.
I think defense is obviously their strength and what's been
keeping them in a lot of games. Even though the
Titans scored a lot of points last week, which was
somewhat of a surprise to me.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
But they're going to have a lot of holes that
they have to fill. Will quarterback be one of them.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
I still think that they're going to have to go
out and find a quarterback somewhere in Freezer.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
That's got to be the first thing, right, first.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Thing, well, unless you sure up an offensive line, give
them some weapons. We've seen it time and time again
with every first round draft pick and quarterbacks, you especially
first overall quarterbacks that go to bad teams, they usually struggle.
They go through adversity because there's so many holes and
you can't play the quarterback position by yourself. There's only
a few guys that may be able to get by
(46:50):
and win games consistently. I'd say Lamar Jackson because of
his skill set and because of his unique talents. Josh
Allen's one of those guys that's different, Patrick Mahomes. But
even those guys will struggle against good competition if you
don't surround them with talent in an offensive line.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
But I think the reason you draft a quarterback before
you draft everybody else is you may not get another
top five spot in the years coming up where you
may not have the opportunity to draft a good quarterback.
So with those eleven, pick thirteen, pick seven, pick four,
you can then draft later and fill the other holes.
If you get a top three pick and you need
a quarterback, you either have to trade down and get
(47:27):
a bunch of picks and fill holes, or you draft
a freaking quarterback right.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
And I think that all goes into the valuation process
of how do they view this guy? Is he a
frand because he has to be a franchise guy if
you take him in the top three picks period, if
you have any question marks about him that in a
different years draft he could be outside the top ten
or something like that. You can't invest in somebody like
(47:50):
that that you don't fully one hundred percent perceive as
a starting quarterback or a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
They're probably two quarterbacks or again in Indiana, those are probably
the two places that you.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
And Dante Moore. I find it hard to believe that
he would leave after this year. And the reason I
say that is because Oregon and the money that they
can give to him now in the nil space to
keep him there and the opportunity to potentially go win
a national champion. The look they're in a position to
go win an Actually they could all change. But he
started out hot. He had that mid season. It wasn't
(48:24):
a skid so to speak. He just didn't play as
well as he did early on, and then he's turned
it on over those last few weeks. But his talent
level and his ability scream first first round talent and
then the other guys for Nana Mendez, like you said you.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Saw it against, he'll probably go one. Yeah, we just
got to work on his interviews. I loved it. Get
nerdier the better. Yeah, he's so excited. Uh is it
time to be concerned about Jalen Hurts and the Eagles?
I think that's probably an easy answer. I you know,
Jalen Hurts, he had five turnovers. Two of them happened
(48:59):
on one play.
Speaker 5 (49:00):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
But then there's a tipped up ball the end of
the game, not even in the game, the one over
the middle. A J. Brown has his hands out, He's
going to get hit. He's got to catch that ball.
The one at the end of the game. I understand
he's trying to fit inside when that cornerback made a
tremendous play, Yes to get his hand up there perfectly.
It was outstanding. But in addition to that, Jalen Hurts
threw a ball a go route down the left field
(49:22):
left sideline to aj Brown that hit him in his hands.
It wasn't that the corner made an extraordinary play. It
hit him in his hands and normally he brings it in.
He drops that play. That changes the trajectory of that game.
So there are concerns. I don't think just about Jalen Hurts.
I think it's about the Eagles and where they are
from a momentum standpoint, because now it's what three straight,
(49:44):
They've lost three straight and they have no momentum momentum
building into December, and as a football team that's hopefully
going to playoffs, it's all about these months of building
up so you're playing your best football when you get
to the playoffs. And right now we're seeing them digress
instead of move forward.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Lane Johnson ends up coming back. I think he'll be
back before the end of the season. That'll be massive
for them. Also, this is an offensive coordinator issue.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
It seems like, right, because you've got a lot of
the same guys but with less offensive line that's.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
The only position.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, that really they're different from last year except for
the offensive coordinator position, which is now he's now coaching
the Saints. But also, don't be egging coaches houses. That's
what they did. They went nag the offensive court in
his house.
Speaker 5 (50:31):
That's so bad.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
But that's Philadelphia too, right, That's like one of our
trainers got hit in the head with a snowball.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
I mean they would. They're ruthless human beings out there.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
And if you're not winning and all this talk about
Nick Sirianni is his job in Jeopardy, this, that, and
the other. I'm like, are you guys serious? We won
a super Bowl, a Super Bowl four years ago this
year and you're still in the lead in your division.
I mean, it's wild to even think that people will
(51:01):
speculate like that. But then again, what's his name, uh Peterson?
Doug Peterson. He won in what seventeen and got fired in.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Nineteen or twenty, Like at least there was a gap year.
Speaker 5 (51:13):
I know, that's a pretty short gap year.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
You just won a super Bowl too, so I don't
I know that that's where it's probably stemming from. But
if you look at Nick Sirioni's record over his first
four years there, you can put it up against anybody
in the history of the NFL in terms of win
percentage and all that stuff, and a Super Bowl championship
and say it's comparable.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
I don't feel like rational people are calling for Sirian
his job. I feel like, hopefully Philly Alpia fans are
calling for Seria.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
My final point is Matt Castle had one career punt
two thousand and eight bills in Buffalo. I think it
was third down. Did you quick kick this?
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (51:51):
Quick kick? Mab gap left, quick kit trips right, gap left,
quick kit kick right.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Here's a clip of Matt Castle and his This is
a i'm gonna say, delicious punt's boomstick.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
One of the things the players appreciated your picture.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
I never chows anyone under the bus, player or coach.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
And there's a quick kick.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
My Castle.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
You gotta love Bellowchim and he gets roll down to
the town. Continue, it'll all go to the five, It'll
go all the way down. Castle the best cutter in
the league. Today.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Okay, that was a fifty seven yard punt into sixty
mile prior wins. The wind took it all the way
down to the one yard line. You're third and eight
from your own forty one yard line.
Speaker 5 (52:39):
What was it? What was the call?
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Again?
Speaker 3 (52:40):
Gap kick, trips, Castle trips, right, gap left, quick kick?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Will you hear that? Do you get excited because you
don't get to kick off?
Speaker 4 (52:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (52:47):
I literally looked over the sideline like, say that again,
like are we serious? Because I've been there for four
years at that point, and we'd always practice these situational
football A lot of them wouldn't come up. But actually
I'd say a majority of them did come up, but
this had never come up, and it just happened to
be that there were sixty mile per hour wins that
day in Buffalo. It was brutal weather conditions. I think
(53:08):
we only threw like eight nine passes in an entire
game because you could not control the ball when you're
throwing it more than five yards. So we're late in
the game. I think we're up two scores at that point,
and but we had the wind at our back. We
were not kicking into the wind. We were with the wind.
And so this call comes in and I was stunned,
and so like I said, I look over, I said,
(53:29):
repeat that in Josha's Josh me goes hey, I said,
trips right gap left, quick kick, as if it's a
normal play. So I get in the huddle. I started saying.
I remember Dan Cope in my center saying CAS will
move up right now, because normally I had back up
a step to about six yards. But he knew the
wind was coming. We hadn't really been in shotgun all
all game, maybe other than three plays. So snap the
(53:51):
ball and I tried to catch that thing and kick
it as quick as possible. Well, it did exactly what
Coach Belichick wanted. They were in defensive shell. They were
as surprised as I would. I was at the play
came in, but I probably kicked it twenty twenty five thirty.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
He just kept rolling and everybody's like, yes, were you
fired up? Oh yeah, I think I. I was fired
up because it literally was down on the one. But
at the same time, I was like, I'm getting a
little bit more credit than I deserve, but I'll take
that credit.
Speaker 5 (54:22):
It was pretty sweet at that point. Yeah, it was awesome. Well, executed.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Thanks to Charlotte Flair for being on the show. That's
Matt Castle. Sorry, do we need new chairs so you
don't slide down?
Speaker 4 (54:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (54:35):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
I feel good, dude. We had these chairs for like
a month and a half.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
I know. I just maybe it's the pants I'm wearing
normal machines, They're just a little slippery.
Speaker 5 (54:44):
Today.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
I'm noticing him slide down over and over, and he
keeps like hitting his microphone as he keeps sliding down
pretty tight over here, so he.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Knocked his phone off the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
He's really been.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Struggling all day today.
Speaker 5 (54:55):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Sorry, that's kick Off Kevin, That's Brandon Ray. Thank you guys.
We will see you next week.
Speaker 8 (55:00):
We've had lots to say by everybody, Lots to say
with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of
the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots, Just say, we got lots to say?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
What better here?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
And we hope you said because we got lost? Just
say yeah, we got lots. Just say here's that.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Everybody welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We have Charlotte Flair coming up from WWE, who is
fourteen time world champion Rich Flair's daughter. She had a
massive ACL injury a year off, came back won the
role rumble.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So Charlotte Flair coming up, pretty excited about that.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Matt, how are you, Budy, I'm doing great, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
How are you? Charlotte Flair? Let's go fourteen times? You
said I did say that. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty impressive.
You got good energy.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
What's the championship? I mean, what's what's What's so? She won?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Like NXT. Is she the most.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Decorated Yes, she's the most decorated female female in WWE history.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think Sina has won it seventeen times. As seventeen,
I think that's the number, and I think she is
most decorated female at fourteen, but hers have been because
the women's division, we'll call it that has really grown
in the past decade to where it is up there
with the men's For a while, it was just like
(01:27):
a side show way back in the early days. For sure,
they even had like glow the gorgeous ladies of wrestling,
but now so sexist. It's real and they're awesome and
sometimes those storylines are better than what the dudes have
going on. And so she won NXT, then I think
she won Divas, she's won, she hat be on SmackDown.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Now I get a little lost.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
There's a lot of wrestling shows that you have to follow,
for sure, it's a lot. I mean, the one person
I don't think I would really want to ever wrestle,
even if they're doing WW is Ron Drowsy.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
She just looks like she's going to hurt somebody.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And she was a wrestler for a while. She headlined
WrestleMania with Charlotte. It was her as a three. It
was Becky Lynch, whose name is the man?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Do you know her?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Becky Lunch is awesome Exeth Rollin's wife.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
No, I don't know her.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
She's Irish, I think, and when she talks, he's like.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Is there anything better than a good Irish accent.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's so good. She's awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And all three of those headline WrestleMania first women to
ever do it.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
That's a really impressive. Actually.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, So I I like wrestling. I don't get to
watch a lot of it. I do watch the Summer slams.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I do one of those.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, that was here in Town Football Stadium a few
years ago. I do watch WrestleMania both nights. I do
watch Royal Rumble, which is my favorite event.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But I don't get is that where they just lock
them in the cage and they absolutely destroy each other.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No, Royal Rumble is where they start out with.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
You laughed and looked at me like you are such
an idiot.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
My bad.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I got things going on, and so do I. Yeah,
but you love wrestling, I do. I do watch the wrestling.
I do watch the big events, and I do keep
up with it. Okay, so the Royal Rumble they put
two people in the ring too, and then every I
think two minutes, somebody's music goes off that you don't
know who it is, and somebody else comes down and
(03:13):
jumps in and once they get thrown over the top
rope through out so it's basically last man in the ring.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Last man's standing. Yeah, king of the castle, King of
the Castle, that one. So you're just throwing just throw
them out of the ring and you're so they have
to go over the top. So how many how many
individuals are we talking?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Thirty?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
There's thirty people in the ring greatest because you never
know who's coming out, and every year there's always four
or five or six or seven people that either you
haven't seen wrestle in ten years or I think I
show Speed showed up and he wrestled.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
He wasn't supposed to be part of the storyline, and Triple.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
H was like Speed, you got to get out there,
and then he goes out and gets speared and it's
one of the hardest shots I've ever seen taken. It
was fantastic. It's my favorite event because you don't know
who is going to come out.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
In this year.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, we should have like a watch party, which we
should stream up.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Need to do this with my kids, like get a
ring upstairs, all right, every two minutes, I'm going to
introduce a song of your picking a song. Yeah you
just said an intro song, right, and they come down
and they yeah, but then people come down. Yeah, one
of my kids come down. I've got five of them.
Are you going to bring in other kids? They don't
know what's coming? That would be awesome. Bullies on the block.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Glad everybody's here. Thanks for hanging out with us. I'm
anxious to get started, are you yeah? You want to
go for I want to give you first overall pick
up the topics because for those that have never watched
or listened to the show before, we don't know what
each other's going to bring, and so we kind of
have free ball it whenever he says something, I hopefully
I know enough about it, but we might have the
same topic on our page.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So I want to give you first overall pick.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Okay, first overall pick.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We now know the direction that the Colts are going
to go, Philip Rivers, I mean forty four dust off
the old Cannon.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
That's why it's giving you first pack.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Because I know that you're going to go there.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I mean because the Colts, let's be honest, after Daniel
Jones goes down, they have really a lot of an
experience beneath him. But I felt so bad Number one
for Daniel Jones the season that he was having up
to that point. He was playing with a fractured fibula,
and then he blows out his achilles. It's just you
never want to see somebody leave the game in that capacity,
(05:19):
especially because you know that injury can take a lot
of time to come back from. But I mean, the
Colts needed somebody, and I cannot believe it, but old
Philip Rivers, man, he's still coaching ball, so he's probably
in shape.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
They just finished the season, literally, Old Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, he's forty four, right, dude, he's got.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Somebody a year a little over a year ago in Alabama.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I bet he still looks good. I'm not bad. He
didn't look like he was in Rothlisberger shape.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Like, yeah, So this is what I know sucks for
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Suck.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He was already gutting through it. He was obviously hurt.
Then a tear's achilles, which is going to be nine
months to a year. And then we've seen the quarterbacks
that have come back. You're not even right when you
come back, even when you are cleared, if you're Aaron
Rodgers cousin, cousin, takes you another year to really get back.
He's gonna be a free agent too. That also sucks,
especially after the year he was having. Now here's what's
(06:13):
terrible for the Colts. Anthony Richardson gets hitting the eye
with a ball pre game, fractures an orbital bone. He's
out there, Riley Leonard. He's questionable to even play next
week because he had a leg injury. He was the
quarterback that went in after Daniel Jones. He gets hurt,
wildly inexperienced, obviously a rookie, but he's also hurt. So
(06:33):
they bring in Philip Rivers Monday night as we're recording this,
it was last night to work out sign him to
the practice squad. He has a relationship, so he grew
up right down the road from Riley Leonard. Different ages,
but like he mentored Riley Leonard a little bit. They
grew up near each other. He's also played because he
played with the Colts for a while. He played with
Jonathan Taylor, he played with the lineman Nelson, Quentin Nelson,
(06:59):
and he also played with Pittman. I believe he did
so while they were all there, so there's some familiarity there.
I can't imagine they're gonna roll and might have him
throw forty five times next week. I hope they do,
and I hope he throws for five hundred yards. It's
a fun story if he comes and plays okay, But
he's been.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
A pocket pasterer for his whole career. I'm sure he's
still got his the footwork and he's been throwing a
little bit. But it is pretty wild when you've been
out of the game for what now, how many years
has he been out?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Four years? Has it been that one? Four or five years? Yeah,
he's up for the Hall of Fame already five years.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Because he's up for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
You're right, he is. Does now?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Does that delay that for another five and you can
go back in as the first ballot soon?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yes, as soon as you take a snap, you're five
years again. Let's go one snap in a game. You're
off the ballot for five years. Dude, I'm telling you,
this is a great story.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's like the Rookie the movie, the Disney movie where
the old guy goes back. Now, he had never played before,
but I can't imagine anybody being older than him. Aaron
Rodgers or Joe Flacco. I believe they're the oldest too.
And I don't think they're as old as Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
No, Aaron Rodgers is forty two, Black Goes forty.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Rogers has got to be forty two. Yeah, forty two. Yeah,
that's good.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
That's like me, that's like you. Let's why can't we
get there? Dude, I've got less kids, so less responsibility.
I don't have a grandchild. I mean I definitely have
a You're right, yes he has a grandchild. That maybe
he is the first guy, that's what I want to know,
first guy to ever start or playing a game that's
an official grandpa.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Probably probably not, but still, that's that's wild.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah. Yeah, Brett Favre Farva was a grandpa and grandpa
in his final season twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Wow, I'm really rooting for him, and that would be
such a great story if he comes out and it's
pretty good and they win because.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
They're still in the mix. It's them and the Jaguars, right, the.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Wheels are falling off fast, really fast. If Joe Flacco
can do it, I think I hope Fla.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Has at least been in the game over the last
so many years. It's a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It's got to be crazy for those students too, that
were on his high school team, because when he's coaching,
he's the guy that used to play in the NFL.
And I'm sure that's really cool. Some of them probably
didn't even remember him playing. However, now their coach is
going to be playing. They're gonna be able to watch
their coach go back and play and start at quarterback.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Don't kid yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Every one of those kids are going to be in
the stadium that first game in their own section.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
He's getting them all tickets. That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, it's a good story. I'm glad you brought that.
If you didn't, I was coming that with that, I
figured you would. I'll do my power rankings.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Yes, I love power rankings.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Just missing the list this week at number six the
Kantada Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I knew that was going to be right there. I mean,
I was wondering if they were still gonna be in
the top five.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
But they're not. Yeah, sadly, sadly.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
They're six and seven. Now.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
If they win these final four games, they they could
be still possibly be in the mix. But they've got
two tough games. They've got the Chargers and Broncos. They've
got two easy wins, which are the Raiders and Titans.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
So I did go on.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
DraftKings and bet them to make the playoffs. They were
like plus three point thirty, so they're not expected to
make the playoffs. Well, let's see right now for the
wild cards. You've got the Bills, You've got Houston.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
The Bills could still win their division though because they're
playing there.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
They could still win their division. But still you got
then the Patriots would be a wild card. Then you've
got Houston right now as a wild card team, and
the final wild card team.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Why am I blanking Colts and Ravens in the Hunt?
Colts Ravens And what's the Colton Ravens record right now?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Eight Colds eight and five, Ravens six and.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So if the Ravens are in the hunt at six
and seven, so are the Chiefs because they're six and.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Seven, like two games behind.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, yeah, yes, but.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm saying if we're putting I love the end the
Hunt graphic, and it's it's a meme itself in the hunt.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
If the End the Hunt graphic is up, and they've.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Got the Ravens at six and seven, who just lost
to the Steelers, by the way, and I think something's
wrong with Lamar, even though they're not saying it. Also,
Baker Mayfield put them on the list of people that's
probably hurt that there'sn't play through and they're not telling
us what's up. If Baltimore is in a six and
seven in the hunt, the Chiefs have to be in
a six and seven in the hunt.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
They're still in the hunt, but in the hunt on
the graphic though, graphic wise there they got to be
in the hunt always the Hut and the Dolphins got
to be six.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And the Bengals technically technically technically not really they've got
what four wins?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a tough task.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So Canslon Chiefs. Chiefs would be my number.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Six, number six.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
So we've now gone to our ratings have gone from
top five to top six.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, no, that's my division at number five, number five.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
The Bills at nine and four, Like the Bills do
have a massive opportunity to move up because they are
playing the Patriots next.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
They do Inner Division and AFC.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Oh it's a playoff game, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So the Bills at nine and four, a gutsy home
snow win against the Bengals down by ten, and what
started off as a purely offensive spec ended with two
defensive interceptions.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And that was Those were the plays of the game.
That's what swung it all for them, and one of them. Look,
Burrow was doing the right thing. He saw it on
the screen. No, it was a corner blitz, actually a
corner blitz off the edge, and so the receiver Jamar
Chase was in a cut split. So what happens is
on that we call it a side adjust, which is
kind of like a hot to the front side, but
(12:29):
on the weak side we call it side Just so
you see a secondary player coming that's unblockable, they're going
to adjust their route. So he's going to get with
towards the sideline and just be ready for the ball.
Trying to get the ball out quick. Joe just didn't
get enough height on it because it was a cut splitty.
The guy closed that distance quickly was able to tip
the ball up or catch the ball and take it back.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
But it was the right decision.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It just unfortunately for Joe Burrow, he didn't get it
over that defender. They always gotta say, you got to
make that guy mess. I was like Yeah, it's easier
said than done. So I understand everyone was like, that
was the worst pick I've ever seen. I was like, no,
that's exactly what he was supposed to be doing. It
just unfortunately didn't work out. And then then then the
next one was a tipball. By the way, as quarterbacks,
there's nothing more frustrating in the world than a tip
(13:13):
ball at the land scrimmage and then interception. I'm just
gonna say that out loud.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
It turns.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It turns me on when you go full quarterback on me,
Like he just turns into the incredible Hawk because he's,
you know, mister energy. He's having a good time. All
of a sudden he's like, go bug split for the four two.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So like, yeah, right, like.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
These I swear this chair every week, I just like
and I just slide down and then by the time
I'm here.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I'm like, god, I gotta get up.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
The number four.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
The pack was big win over Chicago. The Bears do bars.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The Bears are no longer than number one seed. Me
an FC, they were, they were not anymore. A big
one for the Packers. Those who have to play again,
I think next not after this week. They play the
Broncos this week, So big game for both the Broncos
and the Packers. But I think after that they then
go to Soldier Field in Chicago and play the Sucker.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
But I also think Chicago put them on notice, like, hey,
it's a great game, we're here for it. And even
that last play that got intercepted by Caleb Williams, I mean,
the tight end had he had separation on the back end,
if you just put more trajectory on that ball, there's
a possibility right there that that's a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
There's no doubt about it. So it was a great game.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Though Caleb Williams makes so many, I mean four or
five great athletic drive saving plays and then makes a
couple of still bone heads. But I feel like you're
starting to see that shift where it's more of the
good and less of the crazy bad. There's still some
of that crazy bad that rears its head at times,
sure because it hasn't been coached out of him yet, yep,
but you can really see that he's going to be
(15:02):
a really good quarterback.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I mean, and he's only in year two. And if
you even go back to college, right, he didn't really
start his first year he played two full years of college,
won the Heisman Trophy in his first year as a
star at USC, So he hasn't played that much football
comparatively speaking to some of these other guys that have played,
and like you said, he is absolutely incredible at all
(15:24):
the spectacular plays, and then it's just sometimes it's those
intermediate routes where he'll just miss and I'm like, he's
so much better than that. But the growth and maturation
process of this kid has been fun to watch this year.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Number three, the Patriots eleven and two. They're going to
play the Bills.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Patriots eleven two. What I like?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
They play pretty much disciplined football. Early they didn't, there
was some real struggles our league. Yeah, they lost to
the Raiders. Yes, I think now they play very disciplined football,
and I think that's just a Rabel system. But when
you have so many coaches whose job it is to
find kinks in the armor, cracks in the system, and
(16:05):
the Patriots are being glazed all the time. Their quarterback
is I think second for MVP right now, drag Man
number two.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Second, he's got to be the Price Stafford one.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, I would think that's the case. Yep, that eventually.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
According to the rules of the NFL, you can only
climb so high before somebody knocks you down eventually, and
I think that's going to be the Bills.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I think it's going to be a great game.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I don't want it to be.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I want the Patriots to win, right, but I to
be eleven and two this early, this.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Early, and Mike Rabels' first year as your head coach
at the Patriots, coming off a four win season, a
lot of dramatic change in terms of personnel, a lot
of young receivers. I mean, this is a young, young
football team. But what I think, for me, the thing
that's impressive is that they're getting it done in three phases.
Special teams has been a really important part of their success.
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Defenses come together collectively. Now they still have their holes.
They gave up some rushing yards against the Giants and
all that stuff, and they're going to have to figure
that out. But then the offense and the way that
Drake may is playing, and some of the young talent
that they've been able to bring in through the draft
like Trayvon Henderson and guys like that that are immediate
impact players. It's it's a team that his future is
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really bright. Speaking of bright, and it could be this year.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Stafford number one, by the way, yeahs may number two. Yeah,
which is crazy to think he's a second year a guy.
You know my think about second year guys.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
You know what I get it. You know who won
a super Bowl in the second year? Brady. I'm just
saying he did.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, but he didn't start the whole season.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
He started week three on Okay, you heard what I said. Okay,
that's true, saying.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, uh number two. The Seahawks, Yes, big jump up,
big jump. They're playing the Colts next week. Were they
honorable mentioned last week? No? I don't think so. They
may not even be in the top five because they
had just got beat by the Rams. But I thought,
and then number one is the Rams, and I have
to Miami notre dame them because head to head one,
so you got to put him in. But I have
(18:02):
the Rams at number one, ten and three versus the
Lions next week, that'll be a big one. That'd be
a big one for the lot more so the Lions.
That NFC is wild because it's just full of good teams. Yeah,
like not a team that you go, I'm going to
bet the farm on any one of the teams. But
there's so much parody in the NFC side. There's like
six teams that I feel like could represent the NFC
(18:23):
in the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
There's no doubt, and especially in the NFC West because
we're not talking about the forty nine ers, who obviously
have had a lot of injuries and all that stuff.
But just think about that division alone. They're all right
there in the mix. But they've only got three four
losses total, and they're all competing for that and they're
going to play each other down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Ram Seahawks, Packers, forty nine ers, they didn't make the list,
but that's also an FC team. Like Fred Warner's not
coming back, No, but pretty much everybody else is right because.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Buss are coming back.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, he isn't coming back at all too, which true.
Do we still feel like they could win at all?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It would be really difficult, but they still have Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Look, that guy's awesome. Some brock perty has been playing well.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
They've got a good enough team to where they can
compete with anybody, and they're very well coached. The lines
are coming on, they are, But you go back two
weeks ago when they played the Packers and it didn't
look like they.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Were coming weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Though the NFL, week by week, we make our judgments
based on how you played last week.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Okay, that's why the Chiefs are honorable mention at six.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well, they'd be like thirty one if it were about
last week. Although the Texans, man, their defense is so good, gosh,
they're good good.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Between them, the Texans I think have the best defense
in the NFL, and I could argue that with anybody.
The second best defense Denver Broncos. Yeah, I'd say those
are the two best defense. They're just dominant. They can
rush for and get to the passer, and they're so disruptive.
And the quarterbacks you can just you watch those games
and you're amazed because they have a split second to
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make a decision. If you if the ball's not out,
you're getting hit or you're getting the.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
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Speaker 5 (20:27):
I mean some of those in crunch time.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I mean, he is one of those guys that can
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Speaker 1 (20:37):
You're going Pats. I'm going Bills, Okay. Lions at Rams,
Lions at Rams.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Lions have to win this one or they really need
to win this one, versus the Rams, who don't really
have to unless but they are trying to keep that
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Speaker 5 (20:50):
They want to keep the number one seed. I'm gonna
go with Rams at home.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah, it's hard for me to go against Stafford and
also travel everything else that goes on.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I mean, home field advantage.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Is real Packers at Broncos. I'm gonna go crazy here
and go Packers in an upset?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Is it an upset? What's the spread here?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I don't know the spread, but I think the Broncos
are probably if I'm guessing Broncos are probably one and
a half point underdog. We'll go to Kevin in a
second to get the official here, But I'm going to go.
I mean, I don't think that it's it's crazy either way.
What do you see two and a half? Green Bay
is favored by two and a half.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yy. That's close.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm going with Dream Bay. That defenses the defensive.
I think it's going to be a defensive battle between
these two guys.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know what's screwed. I'm gonna go to the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I like it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (22:32):
We will talk to Charlotte Flair next.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
All right, let's get over now to talk with WWE
superstars Charlotte Flair. Charlotte is a fourteen time WWE Women's
World Champion. She is the daughter of legendary wrestler Rick Flair,
and despite being one of the most decorated women in
WWE history, Charlotte grew up playing volleyball, even played in college,
did not originally plan to go into wrestling. And if
you have not watched the Netflix documentary Unreal, I recommend
(23:12):
you do it because a big part of that is
focused on her and her story.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Big thanks to Charlotte for coming on here. She is
Charlotte Crown. Hey, Charlotte, big fans, thank you for coming
on our show.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
No, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
We were just talking about injuries a second ago and
Matt here who played in the NFL for a decade.
My question to him is always after every game, does
something hurt? And I've watched so many of your matches
and I want to ask you the same question, like
it every match does something hurt after?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
No? But I think the small random bruises are what
hurt the most. Like I'll have a random bruise on
my forum, I'm like, why does that hurt so bad?
I don't even think I hit my forearm.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Can you watch the match back and then see where
you hit your forearm to kind of match up you
puzzle together the bruises.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
If I went back and watched, I probably could.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, to know how you keep yourself so physically fit
and what your training regimen is when you're on the road,
because it is a rigorous schedule for you. You guys
are always traveling in so I just want to know
what that looked like from a nutrition standpoint and from
a workout standpoint.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
I think it's just making the time for what is
important to you.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
For me, I feel being athletic, being in shape, keeping
up with my training has what's kept me in the game.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
And Plus I just like it consistent, consistency.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I always like to work out before I go, you know,
to the show.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
It kind of is like my decompressor.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Think what I'm going to do to today, do for
the day, think of my promo, what the max is
going to be like, kind of gets me in the mood.
But everyone's a little different. I know some of the
wrestlers like to go get a coffee. Maybe they'll go,
you know, to their favorite breakfast place. For me, it's like, okay,
I like the hotel gym, or if I've been in
the city before and i know they have a really
good gym, I'll go to that gym. It's just part
(25:03):
of my routine. Everyone has their own routine that we're
for them.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Are you ever in like a small hotel's gem like
a Super eight a Ramada and someone is looking at you, going,
there's no chance that's Charlotte Flair working out in this
hotel gym.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Sometimes.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I was actually in Milan last summer and the guy
was like, are you Charlotte Flair?
Speaker 7 (25:22):
And I was like yes, He's like, what are you
doing in Milan? I'm like, all just passing through her work.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
It was so random because half the time I'm like, oh,
no way, there's no way anyone's gonna recognize me because
I'm like, my hair is a mess, no makeup.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Have a hoodie on. But the guy was like, oh
my gosh, it was really it was wild.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And college you were a great volleyball player. Could you
tell us a little bit about what you found out
about the skills that you had in volleyball and how
if any translated to the actual ring.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I definitely am a better wrestler, but playing sports my
whole life, has definitely taught me, you know, team values, leadership, competitiveness.
I always think it's interesting talking to a wrestler that
doesn't have any kind of athletic background, or if they've
(26:14):
never played a sport, how does competition come to them
or is it really just the entertainment value of it,
Because like, I'm just competitive by nature. Like everything I
want to do, I want to be the best.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
At Matt's wife was an All American at USC volleyball players,
so obviously their kids have tremendous genes because they're both
like exceptional athletes when you were playing, and obviously you
have great genes too, based on you know, your family
and your lineage. But whenever you were playing volleyball, did
you have goals of playing it in Europe, like going
overseas to play professionally at all?
Speaker 7 (26:45):
I did bet volleyball.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Gabrielle Rees was like my role model, so I know,
junior and senior year of high school, all I wanted
to do was play in college. And then I got
to college, and then in my personal life my parents separated.
I think my overall goals and what I wanted kind
of changed. And I was also like the first time
I was on my own, So when I quit volleyball,
I definitely became lost. And then those dreams of being
(27:09):
on the cover of USA Volleyball magazine were kind of
lost under just the change, the changes.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
That were going on in my family. I mean, I
didn't know any different.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
So it's like I got to college, my parents weren't
not necessarily there for me, but they were having their
own issues. So I was kind of I don't know,
I was kind of lost myself when I stopped playing,
but that was like, those were goals of mine when
I was in high school.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You talked about being lost, but then obviously you made
the decision to go into wrestling. And what led to
that decision.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Ultimately, Ultimately, I believe it was April or May. April
April of twenty twelve, the Four Horsemen were inducted into
the Hall of Fame, and me and my little brother
went to Miami with my dad and we were at
dinner with one of the producers for WW at the time,
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and the producer and my dad we're really trying to
get my brother on the right path and able to
get into w W because it was always my little
brother's dream. And then the producer looked at me at
dinner that night and was like, Hey, why aren't you
doing this? And I kind of was like, oh, I
don't know. I never, you know, pictured myself as Michelle
McCool or Tory Wilson or Kelly Kelly. But when he
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said it to me, my little brother was like, huh,
what about me? But he was like, my nickname was Winki.
He was like, Winky, you could do this, Like dude,
we could do it together. And then three months later,
after that dinner, I reached out to Hunter Levec Triple
h or my boss now, and I was like, you know,
(28:45):
I want to give this a go. And then the
rest is history. So really I started wrestling for my
little brother, which was his dream and then turned into mine.
It was really not I never dreamed about being a
professional wrestler, never saw myself in my dad's shoes or
getting into the business. Like I knew I could do
the athletic part, but the glam and the beauty like
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definitely didn't come natural to me, especially being an athlete
my whole life, which now it's like, oh.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
You could you know, be both.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Whenever you go.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
When you first start training, like you say you've committed.
The first couple weeks, few weeks days, is it all
you just taking bumps to see if you really want
to do this?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Is it really hard? At first? Just to test you.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I was kind of like, oh, this doesn't feel good,
Like this hurts, like the ropes hurt, the matt hurts.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Falling, as you say, taking a bomp is not natural.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
So the first day when my dad and my little
brother took me to a ring in Charlotte, North Carolina
at high spots just to like fill it out.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
So my dad was like, I don't even know if
you're gonna like this.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
It's not taking bumps, it's just like whoa like the
surface isn't steady. It's like it's not bouncy, it's not hard,
but it's it's definitely different. And then the cables don't
feel good and you're just like, oh wait, this is
way harder than it looks.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
Like of course people make it look easy, but I
don't know. It's just for me when it.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Was like, oh, this challenge is presenting itself. Okay, I'm
going to figure out how to do this, and I'm
going to figure out how to be good at it.
That was my mindset, even though like it didn't feel
good and I think I broke my nose the first
week of trying it.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
How long did it take you to develop your character
and be comfortable in that role?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Oh, I think I'm ever evolving, forever trying to develop.
Definitely the first two years I didn't even like know
where to put my hands on my entrance, like it
did not come natural. The athleticness and like the the
moves and the end, the okay I can put a
match together came easy. But the emotion, finding a character
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of the charisma, I think for me that just hasn't stopped.
Like obviously, okay, you're Rick Flair's kid. So that was
obviously something you just can't hide from. So either I
was going to own it and embrace it or let it,
you know, swallow.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Me old whenever you're you know, designing your wardrobe. And
this is gonna be a very inside baseball question just
from working just from working in television. Do they give
you like a stipend or are you supposed to pay
for it all yourself?
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Like how does that?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Because I have a clothing allowance and my company gives
me every year to buy suits for events or if
I'm hosting stuff, or when I did idle, they was like,
here's all this money for clothes. How does that work
with you because you have some elaborate, crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
No, it's up to you to invest in yourself and
you know what your character, the vision you have, what
your character would wear, what it's like.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
So no, that's all part of what I invest into Charlotte.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
That's incredible, artistic in so many ways that I don't have.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
But I feel like I get it back just because
I'm putting all of that into the character. For me,
Like every character is different, Like some characters don't need
to where Peacock feathers, but that's what I have envisioned
for mine. So like, yeah, sometimes it's like, oh, spending
a lot on this, but I know I it's what
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I love to do. It's my passion, so I feel
like it's going to the right place.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
So that you're arguably one of the most iconic villains
all right in the business. Is it hard being the villain?
And also how do you know that you've done your
job when the audience just absolutely despises you after a match?
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Well, I think it's harder to be lightd it's easier
to be disliked.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
M No.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I mean I when you're doing something wrong is when
you're not getting a response from the audience. So whether
it's for me booze cheers or wooz, I, as long
as the fans are engaging, I'm like, that's a win.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And you say it's harder to be liked, I guess
it's easier to be bad because universally, a lot of times,
when you know, you presented yourself, you were like you're
like the show, You're like, I am the greatest, I
come from the greatest. You know that probably a pretty
simple presentation. But to be a good guy. I would
think there's more nuance in that.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Because you don't want to be fake and new like
a cartoon character, but you also want to be liked.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Well, it's funny because I'm a good guy right now,
and I think for me, after being on the main
roster for ten years, it's the first time it's an
organic or I'm in an organic position of being a
good guy where they truly do.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Like me and want to see me succeed. But it's
more because.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I've kind of let down the wall of the queen
being so perfect, where I'm like, if you would have
told me ten years ago, like hey, it's okay, you know,
to fall or to not succeed or not to win
or not to be the best. People want to be
able to relate to you. And for so long I
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made this character that wasn't relatable because I'm like, Okay,
she's got.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
To be the best.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
She has to have the best clothes, she has to
be the best in the ring, she has to be
the best on the mic, like everything best, best, best.
I mean, yes, it's amazing that over ten years I've
become the most decorated female in the history of the company,
But there's so much more to what makes these characters special,
and I'm like starting.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
To realize coming back around.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
It's like there's so many other nuances that make you
likable that I kind of missed along the way. So
it's like I'm not starting I'm definitely not starting over.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
But now I'm like, oh, it not that it's.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Hard to be a good guy, but the character can
be more relatable and that's what I'm learning, Like, it
wasn't that hard.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
It was just I had to let my wall down.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Because I feel like I'd such a chip on my
shoulder being Flair's kid, because it's like, no matter what
I do, it's like, your dad's still Rick Flair, and
people still want to talk about Rick Flair, and by
no means is out a negative. I could talk about
my dad all day, like he and what he means
to the industry, what he means to me, But as
like as a professional and someone in the business, you know,
(35:17):
it's I definitely had that chip on my shoulder and
I've carried it with me this whole time.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
When I played, I found it hard sometimes to go
home and not take my job with me, and obviously
for what you do in your persona as the Queen.
How do you separate who you are in the ring
versus who you are outside the ring? And is it
ever a conflict?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
So for so long I used to say, oh, I
wish I was more like my character in my real life,
like I'm not as put together or perfect or as
confident as the Queen looks. But when really what's like
made the character special over this last year is.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Not being like that when I was like, oh, those.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Things do make me like unique and special, and that's
really the message that I should be putting out there,
you know for kids who were watching, because I feel
like that's the most important part of our not even
the job is like you know, we do it for
the fans and the ww universe is the heartbeat of
what we do. And being a role model for you know,
(36:23):
boys and girls and teenagers is really special because I
don't think I don't know what I mean. I don't
even feel like when I say, oh, I have a job,
like it's not a job to me. It's like I
get to wake up and do this every day.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I have two nerdy final questions for you, and they're
nerdy as in wrestling so I want to go first
to WrestleMania. I remember I was you you Becky lunch
Ron Rowsey, and I have that gear for my wall.
And what's great is it was the first time that
you know that women to headlined WrestleMania, and it was
a massive event. And I remember just thinking, I wonder
(36:59):
if they've put extra pressure on themselves since it's they're
the first, Like were you so hyped up going into
it or was or were you so calm because you
had to counter that.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
For that specific first ever.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
I just remember my entrance was I came in a
helicopter and I just remember walking down the ramp and
being like I said I was going to main event
WrestleMania in twenty and fourteen in media, and everyone just
kind of thought that I was saying it for a
headline or to get attention, Like no one ever thought
(37:33):
that was going to be a possibility. So when I
when I was walking down the ramp, but thirty five
in met life, I was like, I did exactly what
I said I was going to do, and I'm exactly
where I should be. So I wasn't don't I don't
know if this is the phrase, like I was in
my bag, like I knew, like I believed everything I
was and I was meant to be one of the
three of those like me, Rond and Becky were meant
(37:55):
to be there that night because it was the best
story that whole year.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
My final question is, and I love WrestleMania, but my
favorite event as a fan is watching roll Rombol because
you just don't know who's gonna come out.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
It's just the best.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
And after you've been injured and you've been out for
a long time and you came back and I think
you were twenty six, twenty seven, it was near the end. Obviously,
you come out and you win Royal Rumble, and like,
I don't know you, but I was like pumped for
you because anybody fighting back from an injury, a long
term injury.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Like I know what that's like, and so I was
super pumped for you.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Although I was nervous, like anytime you're up on the term,
but I was nervous you were gonna rehurt yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
You're in a knee brace the whole thing right like
I'm watching it all. When you finished it, it was bedazzled.
Yes were you?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Did you already know that you had the capability to
do all the moves or did you wait to try
some of that stuff until you were in the ring.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Oh, I just waited till I was in the ring
for some of the stuff. But there is a school here.
I'm gonna get flatbacks. A shout out one of my
favorite coaches. His name is Tyler Well too. Tyler Breeze
and ty Dillinger helped get me back in ring shape
because for where I'm at, I guess in my career
(39:06):
it was more about getting my wind back and feeling
comfortable in the ring instead getting in the ring and like.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Needing to do all these moves.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
So I was very much prepared from a cardio standpoint,
and ring shape is much different than getting on a
treadmill at the gym and running for twenty minutes or
sprinting or the Staremaster.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
Like those things can be hard.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
But I say this to a lot of the new girls,
but you can literally just like blow yourself up on
your entrance because you're so nervous. So that's where you're like,
slow down, take those breath, take take take those minutes
and time. So I like had all that down, but no,
like I remember what you said when when I got
(39:49):
on the top to go, I wasn't nervous about those things.
It was more nervous of I had been off for
over a year, and when you're not at work, you're
not on. Like I didn't have to pretend to be
the queen or I didn't have to be the queen
or eliciting motions from seventy thousand people.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
So it was like when you've been off in a way,
you're like will they remember me?
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Or when your music hits, are you gonna feel like
you know that bad? You know?
Speaker 7 (40:18):
You are like how do you get mentally there?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Because I hadn't I hadn't had to get there, or
I'd never been injured that long. So that was also
like mentally tasking when anyone's who dealt with an injury,
it's like the machine keeps going, but you're like trying
to figure out how you like, how do you get
in that mental space where it was just go, go
(40:41):
go for so long.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, my final question would be, since you've achieved so much,
fourteen time world champion, what is the next mountain that
you're looking to achieve in the WWE.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Well, the first easy answer is I really want to
main event WrestleMania again, whether it's Night one or Night two.
That's you know, the easy answer. But I think personally
and per professionally, it's continuing to grow as a character
and show layers and really take this, you know, baby face,
(41:13):
run to wherever it's going. Because I don't think anyone
in the ww universe had Alexa Bliss and I on
their BINGO card as one of the fan favorite duos
for twenty twenty five, So I'm really excited to see
what twenty twenty six holds for us.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Charlotte, We really appreciate the time, massive fan, thanks for
hanging out with us. And you guys follow Charlotte at
Charlotte WWE and yeah, thank you. Just a big fan
and glad you're healthy and looking forward to to watching
you on D say TV, we say TV, cable tellers, Yeah,
I guess and I just watched it on my phone. Yeah, Flexor, ESPN, Plesure, ESPN,
(41:50):
My Charlotte.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Thanks Charlotte, Thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Okay, My second point is I do want to spend
a minute with Shadar Sanders and talking about him, and
I have been an advocate of his and have Also,
I tried to be honest about his performance. I love
his dad, had a relationship with his dad, not romantic,
just friends, just a loving relationship. Yes, so I was
rooting for Shuter and let's go. He's played in four games,
(42:31):
he started three games, so we got really a body
of work of three games, seven hundred and seventy passing yards,
five touchdowns, three interceptions.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
But let's look at the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
That was a win.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
That was when Shouldar comes out, goes eleven for twenty
for two h nine a touchdown interception. It was, hey,
this guy might be pretty good against the forty nine
ers a loss. He was sixteen for twenty five for
one forty nine and a touchdown, a bad loss.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Forty nine ers are good.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Forty niners are really good. But no turnovers. That's very important.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Then it was the narrative was, maybe he's not that good.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Looked last week they did lose thirty one twenty nine,
but he went twenty three to forty two for three
sixty four, three touchdowns in an interception. I'm gonna be
as unbiased as I absolutely can be about Shoulder. He
does have two good performances, but they were against basically
the worst two teams in the league. He had a
big yardage game against the Titans, now they lost. He
(43:24):
wasn't in at the end of the game for the
two point conversion. Yeah, all those things happen, and we
could go through that all day. My point is, even
his successes have been against such bad teams, I don't
think we've got an accurate read or not on whether
he's good. He could be good. They've given him the
rest of the year. They say he's gonna start the
last four games of the year. Good sost Fancy's like,
(43:45):
we're in shoulder is our guy? We have four I
think him playing better teams is going to give us
a better look if he's actually good or not, because
I don't think you can go Raiders at and Titans.
Those teams are terrible. Yeah, you can't look at those
teams and say he's last. Yes, and the forty nine
Ers game not a great game. So I think we're
(44:05):
at square one with Shuar at this point, and he's
the guy. I'm also not he's not the guy, but
I do want to look at his whole body of work,
and he's played well against bad teams and bad against
good teams.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I think he's got four games to prove himself.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
And if he doesn't and the Browns get one of
those top picks, do they go and draft a quarterback,
because they'll have a top five pick, and you've got
a few quarterbacks in there that could be selected in
those picks, you.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Could be And I think for Shaudor, it's always a
tough circumstance as a quarterback to come in at the
juncture in the season that he did. Right, he was
thrown in because Dylan Gabriel got hurt. But then he
starts getting starts, and every start you learn something, you
start getting better. What's impressive to me is leading up
to that point, he probably got no first team snaps.
He got limited practice stats with the receivers on the field,
(44:55):
the communication, hearing, the cadence with the offensive lineman, building
that rapport because look, you're running practice squad.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
So the fact that he's.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Been able to come in and not play extraordinarily well,
but play well enough to see that he's making progress.
You can see some of the big time throws that
he's made. There's some highlight reel plays on there that
you're like, Okay, I see it now, it's just consistently
do it.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
And as you said, it's about better competition. Now.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
It's also somewhat unfair to evaluate him against the big
dogs in the NFL right now because he's playing on
a team that's lacking little dogs have little dogs yet,
but he's played on a team that's struggling offensively from
a wide receiver and the weapons that they have, offensive lines,
so on and so forth. So that's a lot to
put on a young quarterback and say, go win ball
(45:42):
games against good slash elite competition. But as long as
he keeps moving forward, taking care of the football. You
see the pocket presence, you see his instincts. He's got
natural instincts back there, and I saw that going back
to college.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
Also his toughness.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
So if he can make an impression over these last
four weeks and continue to build on some of these
performances and do it against the better competition, then maybe
he makes a case for himself.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Going in the next year, and maybe they won't have
to draft a quarterback, because I think they have to
draft a quarterback if they don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah, and they've got they need a lot of help.
I think defense is obviously their strength and what's been
keeping them in a lot of games. Even though the
Titans scored a lot of points last week, which was
somewhat of a surprise to me.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
But they're going to have a lot of holes that
they have to fill. Will quarterback be one of them.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
I still think that they're going to have to go
out and find a quarterback somewhere in Freezer.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
That's got to be the first thing, right, first.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Thing, well, unless you sure up an offensive line, give
them some weapons. We've seen it time and time again
with every first round draft pick and quarterbacks, you especially
first overall quarterbacks that go to bad teams, they usually struggle.
They go through adversity because there's so many holes and
you can't play the quarterback position by yourself. There's only
a few guys that may be able to get by
(46:50):
and win games consistently. I'd say Lamar Jackson because of
his skill set and because of his unique talents. Josh
Allen's one of those guys that's different, Patrick Mahomes. But
even those guys will struggle against good competition if you
don't surround them with talent in an offensive line.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
But I think the reason you draft a quarterback before
you draft everybody else is you may not get another
top five spot in the years coming up where you
may not have the opportunity to draft a good quarterback.
So with those eleven, pick thirteen, pick seven, pick four,
you can then draft later and fill the other holes.
If you get a top three pick and you need
a quarterback, you either have to trade down and get
(47:27):
a bunch of picks and fill holes, or you draft
a freaking quarterback right.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
And I think that all goes into the valuation process
of how do they view this guy? Is he a
frand because he has to be a franchise guy if
you take him in the top three picks period, if
you have any question marks about him that in a
different years draft he could be outside the top ten
or something like that. You can't invest in somebody like
(47:50):
that that you don't fully one hundred percent perceive as
a starting quarterback or a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
They're probably two quarterbacks or again in Indiana, those are probably
the two places that you.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
And Dante Moore. I find it hard to believe that
he would leave after this year. And the reason I
say that is because Oregon and the money that they
can give to him now in the nil space to
keep him there and the opportunity to potentially go win
a national champion. The look they're in a position to
go win an Actually they could all change. But he
started out hot. He had that mid season. It wasn't
(48:24):
a skid so to speak. He just didn't play as
well as he did early on, and then he's turned
it on over those last few weeks. But his talent
level and his ability scream first first round talent and
then the other guys for Nana Mendez, like you said you.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Saw it against, he'll probably go one. Yeah, we just
got to work on his interviews. I loved it. Get
nerdier the better. Yeah, he's so excited. Uh is it
time to be concerned about Jalen Hurts and the Eagles?
I think that's probably an easy answer. I you know,
Jalen Hurts, he had five turnovers. Two of them happened
(48:59):
on one play.
Speaker 5 (49:00):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
But then there's a tipped up ball the end of
the game, not even in the game, the one over
the middle. A J. Brown has his hands out, He's
going to get hit. He's got to catch that ball.
The one at the end of the game. I understand
he's trying to fit inside when that cornerback made a
tremendous play, Yes to get his hand up there perfectly.
It was outstanding. But in addition to that, Jalen Hurts
threw a ball a go route down the left field
(49:22):
left sideline to aj Brown that hit him in his hands.
It wasn't that the corner made an extraordinary play. It
hit him in his hands and normally he brings it in.
He drops that play. That changes the trajectory of that game.
So there are concerns. I don't think just about Jalen Hurts.
I think it's about the Eagles and where they are
from a momentum standpoint, because now it's what three straight,
(49:44):
They've lost three straight and they have no momentum momentum
building into December, and as a football team that's hopefully
going to playoffs, it's all about these months of building
up so you're playing your best football when you get
to the playoffs. And right now we're seeing them digress
instead of move forward.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Lane Johnson ends up coming back. I think he'll be
back before the end of the season. That'll be massive
for them. Also, this is an offensive coordinator issue.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
It seems like, right, because you've got a lot of
the same guys but with less offensive line that's.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
The only position.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, that really they're different from last year except for
the offensive coordinator position, which is now he's now coaching
the Saints. But also, don't be egging coaches houses. That's
what they did. They went nag the offensive court in
his house.
Speaker 5 (50:31):
That's so bad.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
But that's Philadelphia too, right, That's like one of our
trainers got hit in the head with a snowball.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
I mean they would. They're ruthless human beings out there.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
And if you're not winning and all this talk about
Nick Sirianni is his job in Jeopardy, this, that, and
the other. I'm like, are you guys serious? We won
a super Bowl, a Super Bowl four years ago this
year and you're still in the lead in your division.
I mean, it's wild to even think that people will
(51:01):
speculate like that. But then again, what's his name, uh Peterson?
Doug Peterson. He won in what seventeen and got fired in.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Nineteen or twenty, Like at least there was a gap year.
Speaker 5 (51:13):
I know, that's a pretty short gap year.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
You just won a super Bowl too, so I don't
I know that that's where it's probably stemming from. But
if you look at Nick Sirioni's record over his first
four years there, you can put it up against anybody
in the history of the NFL in terms of win
percentage and all that stuff, and a Super Bowl championship
and say it's comparable.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
I don't feel like rational people are calling for Sirian
his job. I feel like, hopefully Philly Alpia fans are
calling for Seria.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
My final point is Matt Castle had one career punt
two thousand and eight bills in Buffalo. I think it
was third down. Did you quick kick this?
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (51:51):
Quick kick? Mab gap left, quick kit trips right, gap left,
quick kit kick right.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Here's a clip of Matt Castle and his This is
a i'm gonna say, delicious punt's boomstick.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
One of the things the players appreciated your picture.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
I never chows anyone under the bus, player or coach.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
And there's a quick kick.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
My Castle.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
You gotta love Bellowchim and he gets roll down to
the town. Continue, it'll all go to the five, It'll
go all the way down. Castle the best cutter in
the league. Today.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Okay, that was a fifty seven yard punt into sixty
mile prior wins. The wind took it all the way
down to the one yard line. You're third and eight
from your own forty one yard line.
Speaker 5 (52:39):
What was it? What was the call?
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Again?
Speaker 3 (52:40):
Gap kick, trips, Castle trips, right, gap left, quick kick?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Will you hear that? Do you get excited because you
don't get to kick off?
Speaker 4 (52:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (52:47):
I literally looked over the sideline like, say that again,
like are we serious? Because I've been there for four
years at that point, and we'd always practice these situational
football A lot of them wouldn't come up. But actually
I'd say a majority of them did come up, but
this had never come up, and it just happened to
be that there were sixty mile per hour wins that
day in Buffalo. It was brutal weather conditions. I think
(53:08):
we only threw like eight nine passes in an entire
game because you could not control the ball when you're
throwing it more than five yards. So we're late in
the game. I think we're up two scores at that point,
and but we had the wind at our back. We
were not kicking into the wind. We were with the wind.
And so this call comes in and I was stunned,
and so like I said, I look over, I said,
(53:29):
repeat that in Josha's Josh me goes hey, I said,
trips right gap left, quick kick, as if it's a
normal play. So I get in the huddle. I started saying.
I remember Dan Cope in my center saying CAS will
move up right now, because normally I had back up
a step to about six yards. But he knew the
wind was coming. We hadn't really been in shotgun all
all game, maybe other than three plays. So snap the
(53:51):
ball and I tried to catch that thing and kick
it as quick as possible. Well, it did exactly what
Coach Belichick wanted. They were in defensive shell. They were
as surprised as I would. I was at the play
came in, but I probably kicked it twenty twenty five thirty.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
He just kept rolling and everybody's like, yes, were you
fired up? Oh yeah, I think I. I was fired
up because it literally was down on the one. But
at the same time, I was like, I'm getting a
little bit more credit than I deserve, but I'll take
that credit.
Speaker 5 (54:22):
It was pretty sweet at that point. Yeah, it was awesome. Well, executed.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Thanks to Charlotte Flair for being on the show. That's
Matt Castle. Sorry, do we need new chairs so you
don't slide down?
Speaker 4 (54:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (54:35):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
I feel good, dude. We had these chairs for like
a month and a half.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
I know. I just maybe it's the pants I'm wearing
normal machines, They're just a little slippery.
Speaker 5 (54:44):
Today.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
I'm noticing him slide down over and over, and he
keeps like hitting his microphone as he keeps sliding down
pretty tight over here, so he.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Knocked his phone off the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
He's really been.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Struggling all day today.
Speaker 5 (54:55):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Sorry, that's kick Off Kevin, That's Brandon Ray. Thank you guys.
We will see you next week.
Speaker 8 (55:00):
We've had lots to say by everybody, Lots to say
with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of
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