December 4, 2025 • 50 mins
Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel open with Arkansas Football hiring a new head coach. Matt recalls playing under Lane Kiffin and comments on him going to LSU. Bobby reveals his NFL Power Rankings and his top 5 teams in the league. Matt is amazed at the number of 2nd year QBs leading some of the best teams.
After seeing so many upsets this season, Matt wonders if there are any teams in the NFL that feel unbeatable? Bobby walks through what the Chiefs and Cowboys would need to do in order to make the playoffs.
Matt enjoyed Ben Johnson's post-win celebration but asks if a fake tan was involved. Bobby looks at the most impactful injuries around the league for teams in contention. Steelers fans aren't happy, but is moving on from Mike Tomlin the right choice? We wrap up with Bobby naming the 3 biggest matchups in Week 14.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We Got Lots, just.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We got lots to save?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What better here?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And we hope you say because we got lost?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Said, yeah, we got lost? Just say here's that. Hey,
welcome the two episodes this week. I go back if
you missed the episode that you may have missed. This week,
we had Kendlson on New York Times Reporter I wrote
a book called every Day a Sunday excellent interview about
(00:45):
Jerry Jones, Robert Craft and Roger Goodell. Also earlier this week.
In the episode we did, we basically talked about celebrities
that we were on and on airplanes. Next two, Yeah,
I remembered one and that just.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Like you didn't you remembered your wife texted you. I
knew that she texted me somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yes. What we didn't get to was Arkansas hired any
football coach Brian Silverman. Is that who it is?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Brian Silverfield? Silver Field? I apologize, So you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Don't know you don't know him? Then, No, I don't.
I was hoping you know him, not because I thought
you would know him. I don't know him. I have
a one friend. Do you know him? No?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Was he one of the guys that reached out because
a few honisents ago you said I had multiple coaches
reach out about the artist.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Do not know he was getting the job? No, knew
nothing of it. I knew he had interviewed, but I
don't know him. But I do have a close friend
that's friends with him, and he was like, he's the
greatest guy. And I'm like, but he's a good coach,
and he's like, yeah, he's good coach. He also the
greatest guy. And I'm like, greatest guy. I was, I
was my greatest coach and a good guy. Yeah, I
don't even give it's a good guy. Just don't get
in trouble. So are you excited? Like is the fan
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base excited? I'm dead inside? Oh wow, just generally from
the season. I'm dead inside. Oh you're still struggling through
the season right now. I'm struggling through the decade. So
get me out of here, okay, and then I'll check
back in next year. Yeah, you just needed you needed
some time away famous last words, because you know I'm
still going to be like just going to be just
dressed from head to toe for opening game next year,
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I'll be dressed three weeks from now head to two.
Let's be a basketball. So yeah, we haird a new
football coach and that's what's up. Yeah. How about Lane
keiffn too? That was a big story. Did you ever
when he was at USC? He was with me at USC.
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
He was with me at USC and he was this
punk little kid came in. It was literally his first
year coaching, and the reason he got the job was
because Monti Kiff and his father was close with Pete Carroll.
But MANI used to come up there to the facility
all the time and you could tell he he understood football.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
He was good.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
He was our tight ends coach at the time. And
so I'll never forget there was one story Lane or
money Lane. Lane Lane was a tight ends coach.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Were you tight end then? Because remember they moved to
tight ends?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
So I had to move over to tight ends coach,
I mean tight end my junior year because we had injuries,
you know, and I didn't want to take up too
much of the shine at the quarterback, so I went
over and played some tight ends special teams. Well, I
do remember one practice and I was I was running
a route and he was talking smack to me. I
think I might have dropped the ball or something like that.
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And I said something back to him like this or
the other, and he tried to come at me, and
he tried to like grab my shoulder and I literally
body checked him.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Boom. I said, don't ever put your hands up.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I mean, just the dumbest thing I could have possibly
done as a player. But at the same time, after
that we were totally cool and got a lot. But
like we laughed about it years later. But it's just
incredible his rise and where he is. But this, this
entire situation has been front and center of every media
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outlet and everybody's got an opinion and everything like that.
And I've known him for a really long time. He's
a hell of a football coach. And okay, let's go
back to what you talked about. Yeah, would you put
him better guy? Better guy, better coach.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Better coach, good guy.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
From what I understand, though at all missed everything.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He's changed his life.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
He doesn't drink anymore, he doesn't eat salt, you know,
does hot saanas, does all those things. So he's in
a good mental spot. Yeah, So dude, we got into it.
It's one of those things like people don't understand there's
coaches and players in the dynamic and you get into
these fiery situations. It might be practiced, it might be
a game, and you guys only like a lot of
fans only see it on game day when there's this
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blow up. But that is a natural occurrence that happens
a lot, just because of the intensity of the sport,
the fire and the what you what just happened? And
somebody yells at you right away and the competitor and
you all of a sudden explodes. You don't mean it
too but at the same time, your emotions get the
best of you. But most people are able to put
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it by them. And then you come together after and
you're like, I apologize, I should have done that.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Boom boom. You work it out and move on. Was
it bit of it because you didn't want to be
playing tight end anyway?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Probably there's a lot of frustration there that I was
running routes and I had to block a wide nine
technique and I'm like half this dude's size. I mean,
I used to get in fights with teammates during run
drills all the time. But you know, you got to
have a little edge when you play tight end. So
and I think also the crazy part in the dynamic
of that was he was such a young coach at
the time. You might have been twenty five, twenty six,
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not much older than you, not that much older. Yeah,
and so there was there was that dynamic as well
that maybe you felt like you're screaming at me.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Okay, dude, I'm I'm getting close to your age. Yes,
so let's get after it. Yeah yeah, that's wild. Yeah,
good times, good for LSU. Yeah, big, big hired, big hired.
A lot of money too, Yeah, a lot of money. Yeah.
That just you know.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
The only circumstance about it is I feel for those
old Miss players me too, eleven to one going to playoffs.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I feel for the ole Miss fans more than the players.
That's true too, both both both such. Well you you
come from a fan perspective, because you have to remind me,
I never played I listen, they can look, I never played.
You got it. I played high school. That's it.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
No. But what I'm saying now, you know yourself, you
just said that you were going to go dormant and
go to sleep for the next six months and saw
it comes.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Back in hibernating. But if I hibernate until Arkansas gets
good again, this might be the last you see of
me ever. Guys. Yeah, yeah, you might have to take
more than one ambien. Yeah, that's more sleep from pills.
All right, back and forth? Would you like to lead us?
What's the I want to I want to hear. I
got to hear your ratings? Did I mean? I want rankings? Yes?
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Where are the Chiefs? Okay, power rankings? First, these are
the top five teams in the NFL according to me,
at number five, the Kansas City Chiefs. There you go
at six and six, six and six. Mahomes is third
in passing yards, fifth and passing touchdowns. Kelsey has second
in receiving yards amongst all tight ends in the league.
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I love that you're naming stats. What's the record? Again?
There are six and six, but they are they are
a heavy six and six, Like they're a six and
six that could still win the championship. Ranked right now
in my power rankings, number five, the Kansas City they're
six and six. Who they have on deck the rianking Chiefs.
So I'm gonna get to that don't worry. That'll be
a point out coming out. All they gotta do is
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are on the table.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
And then there you said that two weeks ago, and
there's six and four, and you're like, when when when I.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Think the six and five to be fair? Correct? Yes?
Where are they? Six and five? Okay? Regardless, regardless number
five on my list? The Kansas City Chiefs. They're not
even a wild card right now? Right? Oh no, they're
they're ten. I think they're the tenth. Yeah, right, they'd
be in the n I t they'd be in the
NFL n I T Tournament if it happened right now. Okay, okay.
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At number four, this team is second in the NFL
and rushing yards per game with one hundred and fifty
four yards. They've been running the ball kind of a
two out of monster too, are we doing? I'm guessing
this is Chicago. It is Chicago. Great job nine and
three the Chicago and Kyle Manunga, Is that correct? That's correct?
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They run the ball, they do, and they're at nine
and three. That feels honestly like a seven and five.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Well, there's some games there where like very much so
angles how they pulled that one out there's multiple games
where you're sitting there going, wow, okay you are what's
your record?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Says? The Bears are nine and three. There are my
number four team in the Power rankings this week. And
I think that's fair because that victory this last week. Yeah,
for sure, number three. The Rams. I like that at
nine and three, Devanta Adams. Let's all receivers the fourteen touchdowns.
The next closest receiver is a mon Ross Brown at nine. Yeah,
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even catching, even catching touchdown after your touchdowns. I mean
they've played twelve games, Yes, fourteen touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
That's unbelievable. And then when you have Pook and the
coup on the opposite side, that's why.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
He gets to catch all the touchdowns, right, because you
got to guard Puka and he had the first game
where Matthew Stafford didn't play out of his mind, which
is gonna happen at least once a year.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It happened to be against Carolina and Carolina. Give credit
to Carolina.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
They keep pounting. Got to say that they keep going,
they keep pounds. They're saying, keep pounding, keep really, yeah,
you didn't respond to that, So I figured out I
thought that that was like an holy fans thing that
you went on this website. That's me thirteen to twenty four,
then twenty four to yeah, yeah, yeah, number two. The
only team that makes me more nervous than the Chicago Bears,
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Denver Broncos, Denver Broncos. I know, it's crazy, you know why.
They've won nine straight games, which they've trailed, so it's
like they're.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Not I know, and we You could say it early
in the season like is they're lucky to run out
but they know how to win ball games.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
But then they were playing the Commanders every game. There's
a version of this every week.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
But you are what your record says. You are there
ten and two their battle test and that defense is elite.
The fact that Certain is back, by the way, we're
not acting like we discovered Certain's good. He was the
NFL Defensive Player of the Year last year. So this
is not a hot take that Curtain's good, but that
he's he's so freaking good. I forget how good he
is until I watch him again, right, because he will
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lock down your number one wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You can put him on on an eye lemnaywhere And
the other part about his game is he can play outside,
he can play inside, and you say, hey, take this
guy away.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
They're only like two guys in the NFL right now
that I feel very reevous about, because every seven or
eight years there's one or two, right, and it's certain
and Stingley with.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The texts, he's outstanding as way, like those dudes. It's
just like, here's the third of the field. Right, you
got this taken care of. We're gonna be able to
focus the other ten guys. Right, they're both they're both reevs.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like right, And when I played, it was Revis and
it was Champ Bailey five. Champa.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Champ was another dude that you're just like, gosh, do
I chance it throwing the ball his direction? Because those
fifty to fifty balls are true fifty fifty balls. Because
they had ball skills. They have the ability to change
directions and they just could lock down and become sticky
on any wide receiver. I don't care how skilled they were.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Would you try to find him every way? Every time
you went up, you definitely noticed where he was, like
you would you would try to find me? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Or we try to formation to set up combination routes
away from him because if you try to put he
was agar wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Okay, Champ would always go same wide receiver. He wasn't
like moving around.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
No, he would move sometimes, but like he normally was
on one side based on your personnel. And so the
only time that I had any success I was with
the Chiefs and Dwayne bow had a great day against
them and I and the reason I threw to him
because I had no other choice. We were down like
twenty one seven and we had to start throwing the
ball and go two minute drill. And we had some
success that day throwing against him. But that's the only
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time that I remember going up against him and having
any success.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Cham Bailey played in college and maybe a little in
the NFL both sides too, right, Am I crazy on that? No,
he would move around for sure. Any I'm both had
the football. Oh I don't know, No, I know what's
in too, But look up Champ Bailey in college. I'm
fairly certain he played more than just defense. Also, I
feel like Champ Bailey, this is just me thinking back,
I feel like he also hit a little harder than
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than cornerback than great cover corners.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
That's the thing that was special about him. Because his
physicality that he'd come and play with. So he'd come
up and tackle a running back, he'd come up and
hit you where. There's a lot of guys that would
play the part and would be really good in past defense,
but they don't really want to get involved in that.
But he took pride in every aspect of his game.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What do you say about Champ?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, he played receiver at Georgia five touchdowns the senior year.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I played both ways. Yeah, no, wonder, I'm surprised. I
knew that. I'm just a fan receiver. I didn't say
it like the other player.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I'm just a stupid fan, you know. No, you said
it from a fans perspective. Number one in the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Wow, I have to you know, it's interesting. It's really
interesting about that list. Give it to me.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I know, year quarterbacks, second year quarterbacks, aren't they Stafford's not. No,
But I'm saying three of the top homes all so
my homes isn't. And okay, okay, three Stafford out of
your top five or second year quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And I thought that you had a rule I do that.
Look I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Gonna let a second year quarterback. I can't believe that
they're going to be able to go deep to the playoffs.
And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeh yeah yeah. But your
number one team, I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Listening to you.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
You are the number two team. You owe me this
and what you're number four all our second year quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I would I would like to say that I'm not
changing my mind. I'm learning new things this new information
is presented. I'm not somebody who will not modify their
opinion on something once new information is presented. I was
just checking. Now you checked, You're right, I was just checking.
I'm not even hungry anymore because I eat so many
mown words just now from last week, like I'm all full.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The Patriots eleven and two again. Drake May leads the
league in passing yards. Hey did you see that Monday
night game?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You didn't. No, I didn't for a couple of reasons.
But the biggest reason is I was late jumping in.
Then it was looked out of control, and I tried
to if I find a game that I don't need
to watch because it's already out, I tell my I
make a point to my wife. I'm not watching this game.
I'm with you, and that game was already a little
bit out of hand and it was the Giants, And
I told my wife, I don't need to watch the
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game tonight. Let's watch a movie because I take up
so much time going I need to watch this game.
That would be no, no, no. I need to make
sure when I don't need to be there at the game,
I say I'm here for you, when actually I just
don't have to watch that game.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Okay, that's fair. Yeah, why uh well, Jackson Dark almost
got killed. Yeah, I mean did you see the replay
of that?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I mean he's got to learn how to take care
of himself. But the most incredible thing was the kicker
was going to kick a field goal. He kicked two
feet behind the ball, like but he kicked the ground.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I thought it was AI. When I first saw that,
I couldn't believe it. I could have neither. That's why
I thought it was a I. I've never seen anything
like it.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I asked Stephen Gaskowski, who kicked kicked for me in
New England, and I said, what do you think took
place He said, The only thing I could think of
is that maybe he thought that the placeholder wasn't going
to get the ball down and it made him panic
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I was like, wait, he kicked the two feet behind
the ball. Yeah, that was bizarre. I've never seen that.
I've never seen him not to like that deep. That's
why I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I I've heard him like to see him touch touch
the ground and maybe have a miskick, but nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That was wild.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Pats are off this week, huh oh yeah, yeah, late
by getting ready for the big matchup in a few
weeks against the Bills.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah. Yeah, okay, that's my first. You wanted the power rankings.
You got the power rankings. Thank you. I love that.
I love your Power rankings. I look forward to him
every week and everybody that's show. I didn't say that
you were wrong, you did. You brought it up. You're
like last week you said you can't have a second.
I was just checking. I was keeping I'm keeping you straight.
But I I love what you said. I never said
the Cowboys, probably to put on anyway. I never said
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the Cowboys. Hey, I don't mind that. I don't mind that.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Okay, so you do the power rankings everything, But when
I'm looking at this year, I'm sitting there and saying,
there's not like that dominant team that you feel like
is unbeatable. Where in years past when the Chiefs are
fifteen and two or the Ravens were fourteen and three
and they're hitting their stride and you don't think anybody
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can beat them. I don't think that there's a team
in the NFL right now that you can sit there
and confidently say they don't have maybe some hole. I
think the probably the Rams are the closest to the
most complete team that we know of. But this year
is so wide open. It's a fascinating year in my opinion,
because there is a lot of parody, and you see
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upsets every week. You see Carolina beat the Rams, you
see Philly get upset by Chicago. You see the Ravens
get beat by the Bengals, at which we think, oh,
the Ravens are made whole, they're healthy, all these different things.
So I just think it's a really interesting year for
the league itself because there are legitimately no number one
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team that you go, oh, well, this team is going
to be a problem right now when they get to
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, that's interesting. I think that's awesome for the NFL.
The NFC is it blows my mind more than the AFC.
The AFC, what Pats are the number one seed?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Broncos, Lat's Broncos, Jags, Holts, Jags, Ravens.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Colts aren't making the playoffs. They've got a big one
this week. And I love Daniel Jones. Dude's all a
broken leg. I can't believe he's playing with a fractured
and I don't know what that feels like, because well,
you got the closest thing right down there right now.
Can you imagine being out there playing with that thing, don't.
I don't think the Colts make the play In sauce gardener,
what's up with them?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Like?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah he did? What did he do?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Like?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
What there is not going on? Ir?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
It's calf strain.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Oh man, that's a capstrain though, as we've learned from
the NBA, that's one step away from the old Achilles tear.
I don't think the Colts make the freaking playoffs. And
I love the Colts and I love Daniel Jones. Yeah,
but you're right. The NFC is what's bizarre to me
because you got all the teams that are like two
three four losses like all from the San Francisco's to
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the Eagles, who do they even play offense? They haven't
shown any offense throughout the entire year. It's like they're
running not mad Tech mobile offense because there's like four
plays to choose from they run them.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, and where's their run game? And I know they've
had some injuries up front. We talked about that their
line is decimated. But at the same time, where they
were at the end of last year, which you saw
they were run heavy, they could establish the run dominant there.
But when they wanted to turn it on and throw
the football, they could do that. But they're out of
sorts in every which way. They have no identity and
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they're just have no consistency to what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Like is Lane Johnson done for the year, because I
know that he was out that there's hope that he
could potentially come back. Yeah, their offensive line is really struggling.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I mean, the NFC West is going to be a
great end of this season because you've obviously you've got
the Rams, the Seahawks are very good football team, and
the forty nine Ers, despite all their injuries throughout this year.
Fred Warner Bosa perty miss in the first seven games.
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Kittle being out, I mean, they're still right in the mix.
They're a game back.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I believe what are they feeding them in San Francisco
because they're hurt every game for two.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Years, five years, they've always have like they're decimated more
than any other team.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Like they're superstars, not just random injuries.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, that's coming in in a backup row. It is
a superstar that somehow, some way is injured in the
rails their season.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
What do you see over there?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Kevin Lane Johnson is eyeing Week fifteen.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Oh they need him, Yeah, they need them. Can you
read me the NFC? If that were to go to
the playoffs today? What the a one seed? Okay? And
I don't think that ends up happening that way, but
God forbid, I say something this week. The next week,
I gotta pay that now they're the number one seed.
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They are the number one seed. I don't think they
end up number one seed, but go ahead. The Rams
is the two, okay, and then the Eagles, yep, Bucks
and and the Bucks because they're going to win that division.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Well, they lost three in a row prior to this
last week, so they but they're getting healthy.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
But they're also going to win their goodwin came back,
Evans came back. Well, they're in there with Carolina right now.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Is pushing them. They play, They still played Carolina and
Carolina and scrappy team. Keep pounding, is what I say.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, isn't that your team too? Yeah? Yeah, you shouldn't know.
I keep pounding. That's why I keep hounding. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Seahawks five seed, yeah, yeah, Packers six, Niners seven.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah. I would compare the NFC this year. Here's my analogy.
NFC this year is the SEC and college football, and
the a f C is the SEC, and I'm gonna no,
no opposite hold on n FC is the SEC. I
got too many.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Letters here, and I know there's so many letters in college.
The a f C is the Big ten because you're
top heavy very much. So yeah, I like that analogy.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Because that NFC, with all those teams together, that's the SEC.
Any of those teams can win the freaking Super Bowl, right,
all of them are good. I think you go over
to the a f C, I don't know what the
crap's happening over there. Like it's like there are no.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Two teams Ohio State in Indiana yeah, but I don't
know if there's an Ohio state or Indiana in there. Yeah,
well maybe the Bronx. The Broncos might be your Indiana
right now. The Broncos could be the Indiana like the.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Of everybody.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yes, nobody really thought that they were going to be
undefeated this year or where the Broncos are, but at
the same time win consistently scrappy in every game. I
don't know that's what I'm going to go with, but
I don't think there's an Ohio state in this scroup.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
If Buffalo ends up going in as the seventh seed,
and I'm not sure where they're on the age, nobody's
gonna want to play them in the playoffs, dude. If
they go in as a seventh seed, that's I think
the greatest spot they can get. That's not the buye.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, and how about what they did last week week
with like three offensive linemen out, they still ran for
two hundred and forty something yards.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Wild seven right now. If they get the seven, I
think that's prime pickings for them. You don't want to
be that two seed either, No, and you'll have to
go probably to Denver, and that's where you want to go, okay,
that's it. Next up my next topic. What's your next topic?
The Cowboys and Chiefs love it so right now, both
the Cowboys and the Chiefs. Upon us having this conversation, Oh,
(23:04):
I'll ask you, this is guessing. What do you think
the percentages of the Chiefs and the Cowboys separately making
the playoffs? Chiefs first, Chiefs, right now, I'd say they've
got a they've got a twenty to fifteen percent chance. Okay,
and what about the Cowboys? Cowboys have a ten percent chance.
(23:25):
They both actually have a twenty four percent chance. Oh wow.
Now they have to win games, obviously, and there's not
many games left. No, so let's walk through the Chiefs first.
This game, Chiefs and Texans is pretty much an elimination
game for both for both teams. Yep, So you lose this, listen,
(23:46):
you can win ten games and possibly still get in
the playoffs. So it's not for sure. First, but I
would say this game here for these two teams, this
is as close to elimination game as you get. I'd say,
especially for the Chiefs, right yeah, probably because they're back
two games in their own division. But if they go
let's say they go six and seven and they win
the last four. If you win ten games, for the
(24:07):
most part, there's a ninety percent chance I think since
nineteen ninety that a ten to one team gets in
the playoffs. But they need they for all intents and purposes,
they need to win out. What do you see, Kevin?
Do you agree? Yeah? They need to win this because
the Texans are in the mix too. But if the
Texans don't win their divisions, how the Colts do, the
Texans can take that spot. Ye, that they'll be fighting for.
(24:28):
That would be the seven because the Texans right now
are what won two games back.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Behind the Colts. Yeah, seven and five, eight and four,
So yeah, one game. But with the actual do they
lose to the Colts?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
They just beat the Colts beat them. Okay, so they're
only a game back on the tiebreaker. Yeah, so basically
they're a half game back. Yeah whatever, I just made
that up. So here we go Chiefs and Texans. Okay,
Chiefs versus Chargers. So this is in Kansas City, justin
Herbert gonna have surgery. Ona's wrist, his non throwing wrist,
(25:02):
may not miss any games. That did is tough as Dale,
But I like my odds of the Chiefs in Kansas
City against the Chargers in conference, and then it's the Titans.
That's a free w don't even have the game. Rest everybody,
it might it might be black rest everybody might be
You got the Raiders. That's a that's a favorite. You
(25:23):
got to you got to go to to Vegas. That's
that's what ends it. And then you do have a
game in Kansas City against the Broncos. So you have
three home games left for the Chiefs. The Texans got
to win it home game, Chargers home game Broncos, so
that you got to play those two inter division games
Chargers and Broncos. But at least they're both at home.
And the two games you gotta go on the road
for the Titans and Raiders. Are you kidding me? You
played nine man games if they beat the Texans, which,
(25:46):
by the way, the Texans are looking really good. Their
defense is really, really, really good.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
C J. Stroud came back. He looked a little rescue,
but overall did that guy's a stut uh.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I'm to be convinced. I thought he was a stud
after year one, year two, I feel like they were
throwing subtext shape to him. Other players where for not
really being committed like he was really yeah, just but
very sub like they weren't saying scoos talk to no. No,
I didn't talk to anybody, but it's listening to other
players talk on podcasts. Really. We even had somebody on
our show that was you have to say, don't even
(26:22):
say yeah, do you know what I'm talking about? Kevin?
We had a guest and I felt like he was
hitting him with not saying his name, but was kind
of shading him like he didn't really want it. Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Cowboys twenty four percent chance to make the playoffs twenty
four They will play the Lions on the Thursday night
game on Amazon. That is a play that is that
(26:42):
you have to win. That almost both teams. That's an
elimination game for both teams. Yes, but I'd say more
so for the Cowboys. I would agree. I think the
Cowboys can't lose another game. Cowboys can't lose a game.
But I'm putting this in elimination game. It sounds better
Cowboys and Lions. Let's just go the Cowboys. Let's just
say the Cowboys went. Even though I don't know what
the spread is. I don't know who the favorite is.
(27:02):
It's gonna be a tough one for the Cowboys win.
But let's just say they when to get us to
the rest of this, they go play the Vikings I've
never seen I've never seen that happen before offensively, where
you have a center and there's nobody to snap it
to the Vikings offense. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Mac Brosmer uh he they were kind of excited about
him playing, but my goodness, I feel bad for him
a little bet. You know, five turnovers, four interceptions, one
of them wasn't his fault, but like.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And that's not even J. J. McCarthy, who also is
not playing. Well, where is JJ McCarthy? What did he do?
Concussion protocol man I soft soft concussion protocol, soft benching,
concussion brot I saw that. Did you see some video
that came out after people were accusing that of him,
accusing they did it for Wins. Now it's it hasn't
been confirmed, but it's been confirmed. Yeah, Like they had
Wins playing with a broken vertebrae for a game. Yeah, okay,
(27:53):
so listen to this. Well, here's who the Cowboys have.
They have the Giants, great. That that should be a win.
Should be a win. They have the Commanders, that should
be a win too. The Commanders don't have a quarterback,
and it's going to be Weaks sixteen pretty much. Those guys,
you're trying to go on vacation. I'm trying to get
a break. I mean, they put up a fight the
other nights. Marcus Mariota played great. Yes, I agree they
(28:14):
should have won the game. How about you win the
game the Vikings obviously, and if they can beat the Lions.
The only game that I can see where it's like
I don't know is the Chargers and it's in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, But the other part about Dallas is their rolling
their I don't think anybody wants to play Dallas right
now at this point in the year.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And their defense is starting to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Quinn Williams huge pickup, bigger than what anybody probably anticipated
at the time.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
He's just playing his face off, And that was brought
me to my next point. Are you going to use now?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I was just gonna say, Dak Prescott, he's playing at
MVP level. Yeah, I mean, it's as good as I've
ever seen him play in his career. I know he's
got dudes with Pickens and uh why am I blank?
Ceedee lamb. But at the end of the day, the
quarterback play that he's playing at is MVP level. You
could say Matt Stafford, Drake May, but Dak Prescott should
(29:07):
be in that conversation just due to his play this year,
even though the record doesn't reflect that.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yes, he will not be in the mix, though he
will not win because of their records. But yes, he's
playing out of his face or he's playing out of
his mind. Does anybody, I mean, you can't really win
the MVP on a five hundred team, right, No, like
that happens in baseball occasionally. What about they're going to run?
If I think there's a shot if he continues to
play like he does, I'm not sure what he is now.
(29:35):
He was twenty one and six touchdowns interceptions, but that
was before last week. But you know it's it's I
don't know. He is third right now favorite, and I
think that's about where he is. I don't think he
can win it unless the Cowboys win all the way
out and he plays and he has a couple of
Heisman moments.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, there's some significant drop off.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Because Stafford throwing the three picks. Is he still a one?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
He's two?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Now? Oh well, let me get is it Drake mate one? Drake?
I don't trust second to your quarterbacks. I get it.
I get it.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
The consistently factor that he's played with a guy's pretty
good now, But Dak's been playing out of his mind.
(30:26):
But he always has been a solid quarterback in the
top ten, maybe top five at times. I just think
that the biggest part of any quarterback for their career
to be seen as that guy is you got to
win a playoff game, and whether it's him, whether it's Lamar,
because I think that people view Lamar. I feel like
people view Lamar much better than Dak because of his
(30:51):
MVPs and what he's accomplished in the regular season. But
at the same time, he hasn't made any noise in
the playoffs, and that's always the pushback from everybody as well.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
He can't win in the playoffs, So I have nothing
in front of me to verify this, So Kevin, obviously
I'm lean on you. Lamar has won more playoff games
than Dak, he just hasn't won the AFC Championship, right
like he can't beat Josh Allen. He can't beat Patrick Mahomes.
So that's well. How many AFC championships has Lamar played in.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
He's won three playoff games since he's dak.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
DA one one one. I also think hot take, if
you get a buye that should count as a win.
That would be awesome. Just put it on the stat sheet.
I think it's I have a couple of these. One
if you get a bye in the playoffs, that should
count as a win because you get you earned that
movement to the next round. Right two Passingerferirce. I'm gonna
(31:52):
say this for years. Pass interference should be counted receiving
yards and throwing yards for the quarterback, oh one hundred.
I would love that.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
You know what you know, any times you throw it
up and they're like passing interference on the five yeard line,
you threw like a bomb down the side, like dude,
I thought that was gonna be awesome, and they're like, yeah,
that's just a penalty.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You get nothing for that. And if it were just
a fifteen yard penalty, I would say just give them
the penalty. But if you thought like you had a sixty.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yard that's the major difference between college colleges is just
fifteen yards. Yeah, okay, we got fifteen yards. But the NFL,
you gotta think twice when that ball's in the air
and you're going down and you're gonna have a thirty
five forty yard potential pass interference.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I mean, that's a game changer. And those yards should
be counted for the quarterback and for the wide receiver
because it took someone cheating to take them away from you. Yeah,
but there's no telling if he's going to catch it,
doesn't matter, doesn't matter, doesn't matter. That's mine.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Jack has won too, by the way.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah games, Okay, so three and two. I got a
couple of basketball hot takes. Two. Yeah, where if you throw,
if you give someone let's say I'm let's say I'm
me playing point guard. Okay, I'm coming down and Giannis
is running beside me. We're running the break. On one,
I give Jannis, I deliver a new and he takes
(33:10):
it and as right as he dunk and he gets
the fouled out of him. Yeah. I just delivered the
greatest assist. But he was. They cheated, So you don't
get the assists. I don't get your assists. If he
makes both free throws, I should get the assist. Do
you get half an assist if he only makes one? No,
half he has to make too, he has to make two.
But it doesn't matter. There's at least an opportunity. I
think you should still be able to get your assist
(33:30):
if it was an assist, had he made that shot
when he was fouled. Okay, I see where you're going
with it. But no, they're never gonna show. So it's
not where I'm going, gets where I ended up. That's
the whole point. I have nowhere else to go. Yeah,
if you're waiting for more, I got nothing else in
the nothing else. They're never going to change it. Yeah,
it was that your second point about that.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
No, I would say that Chicago Bears nine to three
dominated when against Eagles. Did you see the post game
when Ben Johnson came in. He's got muscles, dude. He
took off his shirt and just flexed on the whole league.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
He's waiting for that. He knew he's been doing extra.
He's been waiting. I don't know what he did before pregame.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
He might have run the stairs, but he definitely fasted
that week But the other part about that, did you
see his tan? No that I didn't like. He was
super tan. And dude, you live in Chicago, it's winter time.
Do you think he facing bakes interesting facon bakes. I'm
gonna say, benj it.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm not judging because for years I had a standing
two times a week spray tan appointment because I was
on camera. You would spray tan. I had to spray tan.
You wouldn't go and just lay down in a bed.
You know, it's the razor bad for me? Yeah, yeah,
sorry buddy cancer. Yeah, I would rater. Uh yeah, he
(34:41):
was ripped. He was ripped. That was aw. I didn't
realize the tan, but I will go back and looking
at it. I will respect it.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
And will I respect the tan? I want to huh
no never, you said hump first, probably lying no. Well,
he took me off guard. You asked me if I
have ever spray tans, and I was like, no, never
in my life. I probably have somewhere between eighty and
one hundred and thirty times. Let's do it together. You
(35:07):
don't want to they bring a tent to your house.
I've always done it like hired somebody to come to it.
Because again, if I was I would never do it
for just the general esthetic. I walk around in tan
because I'd wear clothes like I don't have enough muscles
to like be muscleman and so, but if I were
going and there was a I was doing a lot
of television for like four or five years, and so
it was pale, especially like next to like Seacrest, who
(35:30):
was always Tannis Crab or Luke Tannis Crab Luke sorry, Luke.
Bryan already did this, like, Okay, what do you wear
when you spray tann I wear just my underwear.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Some dudes do it but naked. Oh they want the
full thing, full money. I don't want that spread. I'm good, yeah, yeah, no,
I don't want that down there. When I when I
was doing Dancing with the Stars, they would spray Tanni's
like crazy. They made me do it with my shirt.
They made me do an episode with no shirt once.
I have a jacket, but I'm shirtless down that's awesome.
I was so nervous. Pictures please. I actually look okay
(36:02):
because I was in good shape, but I was really
really dark. I was like, if you're gonna make me
take my shirt off, dude, like spray it. Give me
two layers. Yeah, as they say, if you can't tone it,
tan it. I was like, tan in and then give
it draws and draw something with a pencil. All right,
here's my third one. And we alluded to this a bit.
But just the injuries around the league. Sauce Gardner calfstrain,
(36:25):
stopping to calfstrain, not headed to the ir should be
back before the season ends. The Colts, they need sauce.
They need sauce. Next up, justin Herbert hand fracture. He's
dealing with a fracture in the back of his left
non throwing hand. He did undergo surgery earlier in the
week to fix it. He said, he is treating it
as if he's playing Monday. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
The big thing about that when you have a hand injury,
especially to your left hand. Thank god it's your non
throwing him, but you're not gonna be able to get
under center.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
And that leads to me talking about Aaron Rodgers, because
he has a fracture in his hand still and in
his nose busted. But I'm glad you said that because
he did not play under center for that reason, because
this non throwing hand right as risk, right, risk had
to fracture it. So when you please elaborate when you're
under center, is it because the impact of the ball hit.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
The impact of the ball, and also probably you don't
have the same strength in that hand, and so you
don't just you might fumble that snap. So they're going
to put you probably in the pistol to make it
a lot easier for you to get the ball. You're
not going to take the impact on the hand. But
what that changes, especially for an offense like the Chargers
or the Steelers, when they operate a lot under center
(37:36):
and set up their play action games and all their
runs go from under center, that changes the way the
defense looks and how they respond to it. Because you're
a pistol, You'll still be able to run play action,
it's just not as effective as when you're under center
in full selling the run. It's interesting Digs.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
With Cowboys knee injury, they open a twenty one day
of practice windows as he hopes to play versus the Lions,
which is this week. He's been hurt for a bit,
so the Cowboys love to have him back. Yeah, that
would be huge, especially in their elimination game. A big
elimination game and Joey Bose's hamstring. He left the game
early Sunday, but mcgarmott says he's day to day.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Well, Joey, let's get you back to buddy. They've had
some injuries. Man, They've been banged up as well. I mean,
there's a lot of injuries, but that's this time of.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Year or two. I feel like I might be completely
wrong on and off base on this, but there aren't
as many superstars that are gone at this point of
the season as they were the last few years. I
think that you're probably right.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I don't know what the status would be, but i'd
say that there's less quarterbacks out.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
And maybe that's why I feel that way.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Because quarterbacks over the last few years have taken a
big hit where you're seeing a lot of guys out.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I mean, Kyler Murray's out. One that I can think
of right now off the top of my head. Kyl.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
They just don't want to play him right. Part of
it because Jacoby Brissett's been balling, I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
And they're going to trade Murray.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
So but I'm saying quarterbacks that you've seen in the
past that have just been out for the entire season.
You're not really seeing that as much.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, because we just read that and like the two
quarterbacks I mentioned are still playing. They're just like hurt
but still playing. But otherwise it's defensive guys and not
the defensive guys don't matter. But it's an offensive league, right,
and it's a face of the league is the quarterback? Right?
All right?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
You're aut last point. You know the Steelers chant for
Mike Tomlin. Fire Mike Tomlin. I think it's interesting because
obviously he's one of the most well respected coaches in
all the NFL. I know that what they haven't won
a playoff game since what was it two thousand and seventeen.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Oh, it's been that long. It's been that long. I
know they've constantly been around. They've not been below, they've
been five hundred in the low above. They've been flirting with.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
It, right, And that's the part where you look at
it and you go, Okay, since twenty seventeen, that's a
long time that you haven't won a playoff game. And
I understand the frustration of the fans and the Steeler
nation and all that stuff, but maybe it is time
for Mike Tomlin to move on. I don't think that
they're going to fire him because I don't think that
that organization fires coaches like that. And he's I think
(40:13):
his contracts up in twenty twenty seven. But at the
end of the day, maybe starting at a new place,
similar to an Andy Reid right, it kind of had
run its course in Philadelphia. He gets a fresh start
with the Kansas City Chiefs. And you look at some
of these jobs, like the Giants. Would they not love
to have Mike Tomlin come in with a guy that
(40:36):
they already have a quarterback? You saw it happened with
the Patriots last year. When Mike Rabel comes in, they've
already got a quarterback. The biggest issue for the Steelers
since that time period once Roethlisberger left is they have
no consistency at the quarterback position, and so you go
to a place that even help. You don't know what's
going to happen with the Bengals. Are they going to
(40:57):
keep their coach? I don't know, But would you not.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Want to Arizona's not going to keep their coach. But
I don't think he wants to go to Arizona. I
don't know if you'd want to go to Arizona, but
he'll be the commodity out there. But it just might.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It might have run its course, is what I'm saying
with the Steelers, because you brought it up a few
weeks ago. The hardest part about the Steelers is they're
constantly over five hundred, but they're never in a position
to where they can go get a top ten draft
pick and dedicate that to a young quarterback that they
could maybe potentially develop build a program around. It's winning purgatory.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, it's winning purgatory. It's right, weren't winning enough.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
We're making the playoffs, but we're not winning playoff games
and we don't have a high enough draft pick to
change the future of our franchise because we can't find
a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I think a change of scenery would be awesome, and
it all a change the scenery doesn't always mean that
it's been a failure, and I don't think this would
be considered a failure at all.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
No, Absolutely, nobody in their right mind would say Mike
Tomlin's tenure at all with the Steelers have been a failure.
It just sometimes the organization needs a change. He might
need a change, and when that happens. I just used
a few examples. You're sitting there going, Okay, he's still
that guy, and he's young enough to be able to
do it.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
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Speaker 4 (42:24):
I'm gonna run with the hot hand and I'm gonna
go with the Cowboys. Me too, just because I hope
the Cowboys win. It's a complete I'm not a Cowboys fan.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I'm not a hater. All my friends I lived for
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and all of them were Cowboy fans. And I'm in
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(42:55):
I'm not. Yeah, I very much so am yeah. Yeah.
Bengals at Bills Bengals at Bills. Ooh, for the Bengals
at in Buffalo, I'm going with the Bills. For the Bank,
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the next few weeks.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Yeah, I mean, Bengals are living a pipe dream right now,
but they still can ruin their dreams.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
They can. The Bengals can still echin. They can't lose
and listen to the Steelers aren't good right and they
are going to play the Ravens again. And it's not
like the Ravens are world beaters. That's true. So I
don't think the Bengals make the playoffs. But if they
can get to nine wins, Man, this is last year?
Is this not last year exactly? If the Bank or
(43:37):
is it last year or two years ago? Last year?
I really missed. Yeah, dude, I don't even know what's
happened in my brain. If the Bengals can beat the Bills,
they're still in the mix. You're going with the Bills.
I'm also going to go with the Bills. It's it's
just tough to go to Buffalo in December, yeah, and win,
it really is. And then Bears at Packers. This is
(43:58):
almost like the NFL's Ohio State Michigan, except not as passionate.
The fans are as passion but the players don't care
as much because they're professionals. It's not like a real rivalry.
But to the fans it is Bears that Packers. I'm
gonna go with the Packers at home. They're just.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
The Packers are playing well right now. Just went on
the road beat the Lions. Jordan Love, he did look
greatt he looked great. The fourth down conversions were a
thing of beauty. And that defense man they can get
after the best, best of offensive line.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
So I'm going to go with the Packers at home.
If the Bears beat the Packers, I am never going
to bet against them again. Yeah. I'm going to take
my shirt off and get a spray TN. I just
the Bear, Yes, yes, yeah, do some curls and get
a spray tan. Yeah, one hundred percent. I'm going to
stop down in the Bears at all if they beat
the Packers in Lambeau.
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Uh.
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Speaker 1 (45:43):
Slash audio question for you? Are you done with college?
For wall? Now done? Just finished the last week?
Speaker 4 (46:04):
So thirteen straight, hitting the road hard, no home for
the holidays. I'm all yours, babe.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I didn't like that you said to your wife. I'm
back them all years, and she's like, go on the
road again. She like it that you got some time
to go do stuff. I think that she'll appreciate me
being home on the weekends. I mean, it's a lot
on her, man.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
She takes on when I leave on Thursdays, she's got
the kids, and then like Friday nights usually were the
football nights, and she would take all five kids of
the football game because that's kind of like the social
event for school. And then weekends we've got some different activities,
whether it's a birthday party or sports event or something
like that. So it's a lot on her during season.
So I'm sure she's gonna appreciate me being home.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I know I will. You know what, I appreciate it.
Too bad. We can't go golf now.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
I know.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
I tried many times, many times. Hey may you'll play off,
I can't. I can't. Hey by me play golf. Okay,
hey may you'll play off. I can't. I can't. And
then I stopped. I've stopp playing golf. I'm stop doing everything,
like the stupid boot on. Still, how long is that on?
Foreanuary till January? Come on? I go, well, I go
this week on Friday. I've been going to rehab twice
a week.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Is it just mobility stuff or like the band work
trying to strengthen the muscles and doing all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
All And also they have this. It's two really cool things.
And I'm sure as a professional athlete you got to
experience the technological side of rehabilitation. It's crazy. It's crazy.
But there's this one thing and they do and I'm
familiar a bit with a lymphatic massage where it's not
like a massage for your muscles, but it like basically
trains your lymphatic system all the excess liquid. I could
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be saying it wrong. No, you're doing great, thank you.
And they have this. It's basically a current where the guy,
my physical therapist, puts it on his belt so it's
connected to him and runs through the machine and then
I hold it. But then when he touches my ankle,
it's an electric current and so as he's as he's
on my ankle, it's like a like he's got gloves on. Yeah,
it's like electric powder on there. It's crazy, it's crazy,
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it's wild, right, yep. And so that is pretty cool,
and the other you think it works some of these
things that they do, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
Probably there's definitely scientific evidence if they're using it, but
some of them, I'm like, I just don't know if
that's working much.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
There's also a machine that they use I wish I
knew the name of it, and they wrap it around
your foot and it's got a like a tube to it.
It's like ice, but there's there's no ice. It's like
called a game changer or something.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
It's the best thing ever. It's like the little black
box right there, and they put ice in there with
water in that. Cold water runs through and wraps.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Oh. I don't know if it's that, but that's also cool.
It's fantastic. It's like like electricity makes it cold as
it's on your foot and it's instant and it freezes. Yeah.
Let's see hold on, hold on, uh cold therapy machine wrap,
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injury wrap. Let's see what it gives me. That's your assistant.
Let's see what it gives me. It's not called game right.
Oh here, it is game ready. Yeah, game ready. That's
exactly ready. Okay, so we could have been talking about
the same thing, but there's no they don't put water
in that yes, they do. They Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
So you see that the black tube that they sit
in there, and that connects to the thing that you're
talking about, the that wraps around they put ice and
then water and that cold water goes through.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
It's amazure that they didn't give that to you right
after the surgery. What do you mean normally some some
surgeon's like my brother just got his shoulder redone and
they gave it to him from the doctor's office because
the machine.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
You know how much the machine costs. Let's preaty. I
mean they let him borrow it. It's three thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
They didn't ask them to buy it. Oh, there's no
way of using it if he had to pay three didn't.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Let me borrow it. I got online. I was like,
do I need to buy this? I didn't. You can
rent it. You definitely bought one. I didn't. I thought
about it though. You're going to do it today though
I'm not. Possibly. That's it. Thank you guys for being here.
If you missed the first episode, we already did one
to go check it out for earlier this week. That
is Matt Castle. That is kicked off Kevin. That is
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
We Got Lots, just.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We got lots to save?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What better here?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And we hope you say because we got lost?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Said, yeah, we got lost? Just say here's that. Hey,
welcome the two episodes this week. I go back if
you missed the episode that you may have missed. This week,
we had Kendlson on New York Times Reporter I wrote
a book called every Day a Sunday excellent interview about
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Jerry Jones, Robert Craft and Roger Goodell. Also earlier this week.
In the episode we did, we basically talked about celebrities
that we were on and on airplanes. Next two, Yeah,
I remembered one and that just.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Like you didn't you remembered your wife texted you. I
knew that she texted me somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yes. What we didn't get to was Arkansas hired any
football coach Brian Silverman. Is that who it is?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Brian Silverfield? Silver Field? I apologize, So you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Don't know you don't know him? Then, No, I don't.
I was hoping you know him, not because I thought
you would know him. I don't know him. I have
a one friend. Do you know him? No?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Was he one of the guys that reached out because
a few honisents ago you said I had multiple coaches
reach out about the artist.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Do not know he was getting the job? No, knew
nothing of it. I knew he had interviewed, but I
don't know him. But I do have a close friend
that's friends with him, and he was like, he's the
greatest guy. And I'm like, but he's a good coach,
and he's like, yeah, he's good coach. He also the
greatest guy. And I'm like, greatest guy. I was, I
was my greatest coach and a good guy. Yeah, I
don't even give it's a good guy. Just don't get
in trouble. So are you excited? Like is the fan
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base excited? I'm dead inside? Oh wow, just generally from
the season. I'm dead inside. Oh you're still struggling through
the season right now. I'm struggling through the decade. So
get me out of here, okay, and then I'll check
back in next year. Yeah, you just needed you needed
some time away famous last words, because you know I'm
still going to be like just going to be just
dressed from head to toe for opening game next year,
(02:13):
I'll be dressed three weeks from now head to two.
Let's be a basketball. So yeah, we haird a new
football coach and that's what's up. Yeah. How about Lane
keiffn too? That was a big story. Did you ever
when he was at USC? He was with me at USC.
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
He was with me at USC and he was this
punk little kid came in. It was literally his first
year coaching, and the reason he got the job was
because Monti Kiff and his father was close with Pete Carroll.
But MANI used to come up there to the facility
all the time and you could tell he he understood football.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
He was good.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
He was our tight ends coach at the time. And
so I'll never forget there was one story Lane or
money Lane. Lane Lane was a tight ends coach.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Were you tight end then? Because remember they moved to
tight ends?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
So I had to move over to tight ends coach,
I mean tight end my junior year because we had injuries,
you know, and I didn't want to take up too
much of the shine at the quarterback, so I went
over and played some tight ends special teams. Well, I
do remember one practice and I was I was running
a route and he was talking smack to me. I
think I might have dropped the ball or something like that.
(03:13):
And I said something back to him like this or
the other, and he tried to come at me, and
he tried to like grab my shoulder and I literally
body checked him.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Boom. I said, don't ever put your hands up.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I mean, just the dumbest thing I could have possibly
done as a player. But at the same time, after
that we were totally cool and got a lot. But
like we laughed about it years later. But it's just
incredible his rise and where he is. But this, this
entire situation has been front and center of every media
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outlet and everybody's got an opinion and everything like that.
And I've known him for a really long time. He's
a hell of a football coach. And okay, let's go
back to what you talked about. Yeah, would you put
him better guy? Better guy, better coach.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Better coach, good guy.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
From what I understand, though at all missed everything.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He's changed his life.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
He doesn't drink anymore, he doesn't eat salt, you know,
does hot saanas, does all those things. So he's in
a good mental spot. Yeah, So dude, we got into it.
It's one of those things like people don't understand there's
coaches and players in the dynamic and you get into
these fiery situations. It might be practiced, it might be
a game, and you guys only like a lot of
fans only see it on game day when there's this
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blow up. But that is a natural occurrence that happens
a lot, just because of the intensity of the sport,
the fire and the what you what just happened? And
somebody yells at you right away and the competitor and
you all of a sudden explodes. You don't mean it
too but at the same time, your emotions get the
best of you. But most people are able to put
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it by them. And then you come together after and
you're like, I apologize, I should have done that.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Boom boom. You work it out and move on. Was
it bit of it because you didn't want to be
playing tight end anyway?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Probably there's a lot of frustration there that I was
running routes and I had to block a wide nine
technique and I'm like half this dude's size. I mean,
I used to get in fights with teammates during run
drills all the time. But you know, you got to
have a little edge when you play tight end. So
and I think also the crazy part in the dynamic
of that was he was such a young coach at
the time. You might have been twenty five, twenty six,
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not much older than you, not that much older. Yeah,
and so there was there was that dynamic as well
that maybe you felt like you're screaming at me.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Okay, dude, I'm I'm getting close to your age. Yes,
so let's get after it. Yeah yeah, that's wild. Yeah,
good times, good for LSU. Yeah, big, big hired, big hired.
A lot of money too, Yeah, a lot of money. Yeah.
That just you know.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
The only circumstance about it is I feel for those
old Miss players me too, eleven to one going to playoffs.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I feel for the ole Miss fans more than the players.
That's true too, both both both such. Well you you
come from a fan perspective, because you have to remind me,
I never played I listen, they can look, I never played.
You got it. I played high school. That's it.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
No. But what I'm saying now, you know yourself, you
just said that you were going to go dormant and
go to sleep for the next six months and saw
it comes.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Back in hibernating. But if I hibernate until Arkansas gets
good again, this might be the last you see of
me ever. Guys. Yeah, yeah, you might have to take
more than one ambien. Yeah, that's more sleep from pills.
All right, back and forth? Would you like to lead us?
What's the I want to I want to hear. I
got to hear your ratings? Did I mean? I want rankings? Yes?
(06:32):
Where are the Chiefs? Okay, power rankings? First, these are
the top five teams in the NFL according to me,
at number five, the Kansas City Chiefs. There you go
at six and six, six and six. Mahomes is third
in passing yards, fifth and passing touchdowns. Kelsey has second
in receiving yards amongst all tight ends in the league.
(06:54):
I love that you're naming stats. What's the record? Again?
There are six and six, but they are they are
a heavy six and six, Like they're a six and
six that could still win the championship. Ranked right now
in my power rankings, number five, the Kansas City they're
six and six. Who they have on deck the rianking Chiefs.
So I'm gonna get to that don't worry. That'll be
a point out coming out. All they gotta do is
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are on the table.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
And then there you said that two weeks ago, and
there's six and four, and you're like, when when when I.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Think the six and five to be fair? Correct? Yes?
Where are they? Six and five? Okay? Regardless, regardless number
five on my list? The Kansas City Chiefs. They're not
even a wild card right now? Right? Oh no, they're
they're ten. I think they're the tenth. Yeah, right, they'd
be in the n I t they'd be in the
NFL n I T Tournament if it happened right now. Okay, okay.
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At number four, this team is second in the NFL
and rushing yards per game with one hundred and fifty
four yards. They've been running the ball kind of a
two out of monster too, are we doing? I'm guessing
this is Chicago. It is Chicago. Great job nine and
three the Chicago and Kyle Manunga, Is that correct? That's correct?
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They run the ball, they do, and they're at nine
and three. That feels honestly like a seven and five.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Well, there's some games there where like very much so
angles how they pulled that one out there's multiple games
where you're sitting there going, wow, okay you are what's
your record?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Says? The Bears are nine and three. There are my
number four team in the Power rankings this week. And
I think that's fair because that victory this last week. Yeah,
for sure, number three. The Rams. I like that at
nine and three, Devanta Adams. Let's all receivers the fourteen touchdowns.
The next closest receiver is a mon Ross Brown at nine. Yeah,
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even catching, even catching touchdown after your touchdowns. I mean
they've played twelve games, Yes, fourteen touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
That's unbelievable. And then when you have Pook and the
coup on the opposite side, that's why.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
He gets to catch all the touchdowns, right, because you
got to guard Puka and he had the first game
where Matthew Stafford didn't play out of his mind, which
is gonna happen at least once a year.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It happened to be against Carolina and Carolina. Give credit
to Carolina.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
They keep pounting. Got to say that they keep going,
they keep pounds. They're saying, keep pounding, keep really, yeah,
you didn't respond to that, So I figured out I
thought that that was like an holy fans thing that
you went on this website. That's me thirteen to twenty four,
then twenty four to yeah, yeah, yeah, number two. The
only team that makes me more nervous than the Chicago Bears,
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Denver Broncos, Denver Broncos. I know, it's crazy, you know why.
They've won nine straight games, which they've trailed, so it's
like they're.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Not I know, and we You could say it early
in the season like is they're lucky to run out
but they know how to win ball games.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
But then they were playing the Commanders every game. There's
a version of this every week.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
But you are what your record says. You are there
ten and two their battle test and that defense is elite.
The fact that Certain is back, by the way, we're
not acting like we discovered Certain's good. He was the
NFL Defensive Player of the Year last year. So this
is not a hot take that Curtain's good, but that
he's he's so freaking good. I forget how good he
is until I watch him again, right, because he will
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lock down your number one wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You can put him on on an eye lemnaywhere And
the other part about his game is he can play outside,
he can play inside, and you say, hey, take this
guy away.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
They're only like two guys in the NFL right now
that I feel very reevous about, because every seven or
eight years there's one or two, right, and it's certain
and Stingley with.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The texts, he's outstanding as way, like those dudes. It's
just like, here's the third of the field. Right, you
got this taken care of. We're gonna be able to
focus the other ten guys. Right, they're both they're both reevs.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like right, And when I played, it was Revis and
it was Champ Bailey five. Champa.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Champ was another dude that you're just like, gosh, do
I chance it throwing the ball his direction? Because those
fifty to fifty balls are true fifty fifty balls. Because
they had ball skills. They have the ability to change
directions and they just could lock down and become sticky
on any wide receiver. I don't care how skilled they were.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Would you try to find him every way? Every time
you went up, you definitely noticed where he was, like
you would you would try to find me? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Or we try to formation to set up combination routes
away from him because if you try to put he
was agar wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Okay, Champ would always go same wide receiver. He wasn't
like moving around.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
No, he would move sometimes, but like he normally was
on one side based on your personnel. And so the
only time that I had any success I was with
the Chiefs and Dwayne bow had a great day against
them and I and the reason I threw to him
because I had no other choice. We were down like
twenty one seven and we had to start throwing the
ball and go two minute drill. And we had some
success that day throwing against him. But that's the only
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time that I remember going up against him and having
any success.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Cham Bailey played in college and maybe a little in
the NFL both sides too, right, Am I crazy on that? No,
he would move around for sure. Any I'm both had
the football. Oh I don't know, No, I know what's
in too, But look up Champ Bailey in college. I'm
fairly certain he played more than just defense. Also, I
feel like Champ Bailey, this is just me thinking back,
I feel like he also hit a little harder than
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than cornerback than great cover corners.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
That's the thing that was special about him. Because his
physicality that he'd come and play with. So he'd come
up and tackle a running back, he'd come up and
hit you where. There's a lot of guys that would
play the part and would be really good in past defense,
but they don't really want to get involved in that.
But he took pride in every aspect of his game.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What do you say about Champ?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, he played receiver at Georgia five touchdowns the senior year.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I played both ways. Yeah, no, wonder, I'm surprised. I
knew that. I'm just a fan receiver. I didn't say
it like the other player.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I'm just a stupid fan, you know. No, you said
it from a fans perspective. Number one in the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Wow, I have to you know, it's interesting. It's really
interesting about that list. Give it to me.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I know, year quarterbacks, second year quarterbacks, aren't they Stafford's not. No,
But I'm saying three of the top homes all so
my homes isn't. And okay, okay, three Stafford out of
your top five or second year quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And I thought that you had a rule I do that.
Look I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Gonna let a second year quarterback. I can't believe that
they're going to be able to go deep to the playoffs.
And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeh yeah yeah. But your
number one team, I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Listening to you.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
You are the number two team. You owe me this
and what you're number four all our second year quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I would I would like to say that I'm not
changing my mind. I'm learning new things this new information
is presented. I'm not somebody who will not modify their
opinion on something once new information is presented. I was
just checking. Now you checked, You're right, I was just checking.
I'm not even hungry anymore because I eat so many
mown words just now from last week, like I'm all full.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The Patriots eleven and two again. Drake May leads the
league in passing yards. Hey did you see that Monday
night game?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You didn't. No, I didn't for a couple of reasons.
But the biggest reason is I was late jumping in.
Then it was looked out of control, and I tried
to if I find a game that I don't need
to watch because it's already out, I tell my I
make a point to my wife. I'm not watching this game.
I'm with you, and that game was already a little
bit out of hand and it was the Giants, And
I told my wife, I don't need to watch the
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game tonight. Let's watch a movie because I take up
so much time going I need to watch this game.
That would be no, no, no. I need to make
sure when I don't need to be there at the game,
I say I'm here for you, when actually I just
don't have to watch that game.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Okay, that's fair. Yeah, why uh well, Jackson Dark almost
got killed. Yeah, I mean did you see the replay
of that?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I mean he's got to learn how to take care
of himself. But the most incredible thing was the kicker
was going to kick a field goal. He kicked two
feet behind the ball, like but he kicked the ground.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I thought it was AI. When I first saw that,
I couldn't believe it. I could have neither. That's why
I thought it was a I. I've never seen anything
like it.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I asked Stephen Gaskowski, who kicked kicked for me in
New England, and I said, what do you think took
place He said, The only thing I could think of
is that maybe he thought that the placeholder wasn't going
to get the ball down and it made him panic
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I was like, wait, he kicked the two feet behind
the ball. Yeah, that was bizarre. I've never seen that.
I've never seen him not to like that deep. That's
why I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I I've heard him like to see him touch touch
the ground and maybe have a miskick, but nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That was wild.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Pats are off this week, huh oh yeah, yeah, late
by getting ready for the big matchup in a few
weeks against the Bills.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah. Yeah, okay, that's my first. You wanted the power rankings.
You got the power rankings. Thank you. I love that.
I love your Power rankings. I look forward to him
every week and everybody that's show. I didn't say that
you were wrong, you did. You brought it up. You're
like last week you said you can't have a second.
I was just checking. I was keeping I'm keeping you straight.
But I I love what you said. I never said
the Cowboys, probably to put on anyway. I never said
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the Cowboys. Hey, I don't mind that. I don't mind that.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Okay, so you do the power rankings everything, But when
I'm looking at this year, I'm sitting there and saying,
there's not like that dominant team that you feel like
is unbeatable. Where in years past when the Chiefs are
fifteen and two or the Ravens were fourteen and three
and they're hitting their stride and you don't think anybody
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can beat them. I don't think that there's a team
in the NFL right now that you can sit there
and confidently say they don't have maybe some hole. I
think the probably the Rams are the closest to the
most complete team that we know of. But this year
is so wide open. It's a fascinating year in my opinion,
because there is a lot of parody, and you see
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upsets every week. You see Carolina beat the Rams, you
see Philly get upset by Chicago. You see the Ravens
get beat by the Bengals, at which we think, oh,
the Ravens are made whole, they're healthy, all these different things.
So I just think it's a really interesting year for
the league itself because there are legitimately no number one
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team that you go, oh, well, this team is going
to be a problem right now when they get to
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, that's interesting. I think that's awesome for the NFL.
The NFC is it blows my mind more than the AFC.
The AFC, what Pats are the number one seed?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Broncos, Lat's Broncos, Jags, Holts, Jags, Ravens.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Colts aren't making the playoffs. They've got a big one
this week. And I love Daniel Jones. Dude's all a
broken leg. I can't believe he's playing with a fractured
and I don't know what that feels like, because well,
you got the closest thing right down there right now.
Can you imagine being out there playing with that thing, don't.
I don't think the Colts make the play In sauce gardener,
what's up with them?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Like?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah he did? What did he do?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Like?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
What there is not going on? Ir?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
It's calf strain.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Oh man, that's a capstrain though, as we've learned from
the NBA, that's one step away from the old Achilles tear.
I don't think the Colts make the freaking playoffs. And
I love the Colts and I love Daniel Jones. Yeah,
but you're right. The NFC is what's bizarre to me
because you got all the teams that are like two
three four losses like all from the San Francisco's to
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the Eagles, who do they even play offense? They haven't
shown any offense throughout the entire year. It's like they're
running not mad Tech mobile offense because there's like four
plays to choose from they run them.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, and where's their run game? And I know they've
had some injuries up front. We talked about that their
line is decimated. But at the same time, where they
were at the end of last year, which you saw
they were run heavy, they could establish the run dominant there.
But when they wanted to turn it on and throw
the football, they could do that. But they're out of
sorts in every which way. They have no identity and
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they're just have no consistency to what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Like is Lane Johnson done for the year, because I
know that he was out that there's hope that he
could potentially come back. Yeah, their offensive line is really struggling.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I mean, the NFC West is going to be a
great end of this season because you've obviously you've got
the Rams, the Seahawks are very good football team, and
the forty nine Ers, despite all their injuries throughout this year.
Fred Warner Bosa perty miss in the first seven games.
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Kittle being out, I mean, they're still right in the mix.
They're a game back.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I believe what are they feeding them in San Francisco
because they're hurt every game for two.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Years, five years, they've always have like they're decimated more
than any other team.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Like they're superstars, not just random injuries.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, that's coming in in a backup row. It is
a superstar that somehow, some way is injured in the
rails their season.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
What do you see over there?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Kevin Lane Johnson is eyeing Week fifteen.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Oh they need him, Yeah, they need them. Can you
read me the NFC? If that were to go to
the playoffs today? What the a one seed? Okay? And
I don't think that ends up happening that way, but
God forbid, I say something this week. The next week,
I gotta pay that now they're the number one seed.
(20:41):
They are the number one seed. I don't think they
end up number one seed, but go ahead. The Rams
is the two, okay, and then the Eagles, yep, Bucks
and and the Bucks because they're going to win that division.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Well, they lost three in a row prior to this
last week, so they but they're getting healthy.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
But they're also going to win their goodwin came back,
Evans came back. Well, they're in there with Carolina right now.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Is pushing them. They play, They still played Carolina and
Carolina and scrappy team. Keep pounding, is what I say.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, isn't that your team too? Yeah? Yeah, you shouldn't know.
I keep pounding. That's why I keep hounding. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Seahawks five seed, yeah, yeah, Packers six, Niners seven.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah. I would compare the NFC this year. Here's my analogy.
NFC this year is the SEC and college football, and
the a f C is the SEC, and I'm gonna no,
no opposite hold on n FC is the SEC. I
got too many.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Letters here, and I know there's so many letters in college.
The a f C is the Big ten because you're
top heavy very much. So yeah, I like that analogy.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Because that NFC, with all those teams together, that's the SEC.
Any of those teams can win the freaking Super Bowl, right,
all of them are good. I think you go over
to the a f C, I don't know what the
crap's happening over there. Like it's like there are no.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Two teams Ohio State in Indiana yeah, but I don't
know if there's an Ohio state or Indiana in there. Yeah,
well maybe the Bronx. The Broncos might be your Indiana
right now. The Broncos could be the Indiana like the.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Of everybody.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yes, nobody really thought that they were going to be
undefeated this year or where the Broncos are, but at
the same time win consistently scrappy in every game. I
don't know that's what I'm going to go with, but
I don't think there's an Ohio state in this scroup.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
If Buffalo ends up going in as the seventh seed,
and I'm not sure where they're on the age, nobody's
gonna want to play them in the playoffs, dude. If
they go in as a seventh seed, that's I think
the greatest spot they can get. That's not the buye.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, and how about what they did last week week
with like three offensive linemen out, they still ran for
two hundred and forty something yards.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Wild seven right now. If they get the seven, I
think that's prime pickings for them. You don't want to
be that two seed either, No, and you'll have to
go probably to Denver, and that's where you want to go, okay,
that's it. Next up my next topic. What's your next topic?
The Cowboys and Chiefs love it so right now, both
the Cowboys and the Chiefs. Upon us having this conversation, Oh,
(23:04):
I'll ask you, this is guessing. What do you think
the percentages of the Chiefs and the Cowboys separately making
the playoffs? Chiefs first, Chiefs, right now, I'd say they've
got a they've got a twenty to fifteen percent chance. Okay,
and what about the Cowboys? Cowboys have a ten percent chance.
(23:25):
They both actually have a twenty four percent chance. Oh wow.
Now they have to win games, obviously, and there's not
many games left. No, so let's walk through the Chiefs first.
This game, Chiefs and Texans is pretty much an elimination
game for both for both teams. Yep, So you lose this, listen,
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you can win ten games and possibly still get in
the playoffs. So it's not for sure. First, but I
would say this game here for these two teams, this
is as close to elimination game as you get. I'd say,
especially for the Chiefs, right yeah, probably because they're back
two games in their own division. But if they go
let's say they go six and seven and they win
the last four. If you win ten games, for the
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most part, there's a ninety percent chance I think since
nineteen ninety that a ten to one team gets in
the playoffs. But they need they for all intents and purposes,
they need to win out. What do you see, Kevin?
Do you agree? Yeah? They need to win this because
the Texans are in the mix too. But if the
Texans don't win their divisions, how the Colts do, the
Texans can take that spot. Ye, that they'll be fighting for.
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That would be the seven because the Texans right now
are what won two games back.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Behind the Colts. Yeah, seven and five, eight and four,
So yeah, one game. But with the actual do they
lose to the Colts?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
They just beat the Colts beat them. Okay, so they're
only a game back on the tiebreaker. Yeah, so basically
they're a half game back. Yeah whatever, I just made
that up. So here we go Chiefs and Texans. Okay,
Chiefs versus Chargers. So this is in Kansas City, justin
Herbert gonna have surgery. Ona's wrist, his non throwing wrist,
(25:02):
may not miss any games. That did is tough as Dale,
But I like my odds of the Chiefs in Kansas
City against the Chargers in conference, and then it's the Titans.
That's a free w don't even have the game. Rest everybody,
it might it might be black rest everybody might be
You got the Raiders. That's a that's a favorite. You
(25:23):
got to you got to go to to Vegas. That's
that's what ends it. And then you do have a
game in Kansas City against the Broncos. So you have
three home games left for the Chiefs. The Texans got
to win it home game, Chargers home game Broncos, so
that you got to play those two inter division games
Chargers and Broncos. But at least they're both at home.
And the two games you gotta go on the road
for the Titans and Raiders. Are you kidding me? You
played nine man games if they beat the Texans, which,
(25:46):
by the way, the Texans are looking really good. Their
defense is really, really, really good.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
C J. Stroud came back. He looked a little rescue,
but overall did that guy's a stut uh.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I'm to be convinced. I thought he was a stud
after year one, year two, I feel like they were
throwing subtext shape to him. Other players where for not
really being committed like he was really yeah, just but
very sub like they weren't saying scoos talk to no. No,
I didn't talk to anybody, but it's listening to other
players talk on podcasts. Really. We even had somebody on
our show that was you have to say, don't even
(26:22):
say yeah, do you know what I'm talking about? Kevin?
We had a guest and I felt like he was
hitting him with not saying his name, but was kind
of shading him like he didn't really want it. Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Cowboys twenty four percent chance to make the playoffs twenty
four They will play the Lions on the Thursday night
game on Amazon. That is a play that is that
(26:42):
you have to win. That almost both teams. That's an
elimination game for both teams. Yes, but I'd say more
so for the Cowboys. I would agree. I think the
Cowboys can't lose another game. Cowboys can't lose a game.
But I'm putting this in elimination game. It sounds better
Cowboys and Lions. Let's just go the Cowboys. Let's just
say the Cowboys went. Even though I don't know what
the spread is. I don't know who the favorite is.
(27:02):
It's gonna be a tough one for the Cowboys win.
But let's just say they when to get us to
the rest of this, they go play the Vikings I've
never seen I've never seen that happen before offensively, where
you have a center and there's nobody to snap it
to the Vikings offense. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Mac Brosmer uh he they were kind of excited about
him playing, but my goodness, I feel bad for him
a little bet. You know, five turnovers, four interceptions, one
of them wasn't his fault, but like.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And that's not even J. J. McCarthy, who also is
not playing. Well, where is JJ McCarthy? What did he do?
Concussion protocol man I soft soft concussion protocol, soft benching,
concussion brot I saw that. Did you see some video
that came out after people were accusing that of him,
accusing they did it for Wins. Now it's it hasn't
been confirmed, but it's been confirmed. Yeah, Like they had
Wins playing with a broken vertebrae for a game. Yeah, okay,
(27:53):
so listen to this. Well, here's who the Cowboys have.
They have the Giants, great. That that should be a win.
Should be a win. They have the Commanders, that should
be a win too. The Commanders don't have a quarterback,
and it's going to be Weaks sixteen pretty much. Those guys,
you're trying to go on vacation. I'm trying to get
a break. I mean, they put up a fight the
other nights. Marcus Mariota played great. Yes, I agree they
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should have won the game. How about you win the
game the Vikings obviously, and if they can beat the Lions.
The only game that I can see where it's like
I don't know is the Chargers and it's in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, But the other part about Dallas is their rolling
their I don't think anybody wants to play Dallas right
now at this point in the year.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And their defense is starting to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Quinn Williams huge pickup, bigger than what anybody probably anticipated
at the time.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
He's just playing his face off, And that was brought
me to my next point. Are you going to use now?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I was just gonna say, Dak Prescott, he's playing at
MVP level. Yeah, I mean, it's as good as I've
ever seen him play in his career. I know he's
got dudes with Pickens and uh why am I blank?
Ceedee lamb. But at the end of the day, the
quarterback play that he's playing at is MVP level. You
could say Matt Stafford, Drake May, but Dak Prescott should
(29:07):
be in that conversation just due to his play this year,
even though the record doesn't reflect that.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yes, he will not be in the mix, though he
will not win because of their records. But yes, he's
playing out of his face or he's playing out of
his mind. Does anybody, I mean, you can't really win
the MVP on a five hundred team, right, No, like
that happens in baseball occasionally. What about they're going to run?
If I think there's a shot if he continues to
play like he does, I'm not sure what he is now.
(29:35):
He was twenty one and six touchdowns interceptions, but that
was before last week. But you know it's it's I
don't know. He is third right now favorite, and I
think that's about where he is. I don't think he
can win it unless the Cowboys win all the way
out and he plays and he has a couple of
Heisman moments.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, there's some significant drop off.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Because Stafford throwing the three picks. Is he still a one?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
He's two?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Now? Oh well, let me get is it Drake mate one? Drake?
I don't trust second to your quarterbacks. I get it.
I get it.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
The consistently factor that he's played with a guy's pretty
good now, But Dak's been playing out of his mind.
(30:26):
But he always has been a solid quarterback in the
top ten, maybe top five at times. I just think
that the biggest part of any quarterback for their career
to be seen as that guy is you got to
win a playoff game, and whether it's him, whether it's Lamar,
because I think that people view Lamar. I feel like
people view Lamar much better than Dak because of his
(30:51):
MVPs and what he's accomplished in the regular season. But
at the same time, he hasn't made any noise in
the playoffs, and that's always the pushback from everybody as well.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
He can't win in the playoffs, So I have nothing
in front of me to verify this, So Kevin, obviously
I'm lean on you. Lamar has won more playoff games
than Dak, he just hasn't won the AFC Championship, right
like he can't beat Josh Allen. He can't beat Patrick Mahomes.
So that's well. How many AFC championships has Lamar played in.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
He's won three playoff games since he's dak.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
DA one one one. I also think hot take, if
you get a buye that should count as a win.
That would be awesome. Just put it on the stat sheet.
I think it's I have a couple of these. One
if you get a bye in the playoffs, that should
count as a win because you get you earned that
movement to the next round. Right two Passingerferirce. I'm gonna
(31:52):
say this for years. Pass interference should be counted receiving
yards and throwing yards for the quarterback, oh one hundred.
I would love that.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
You know what you know, any times you throw it
up and they're like passing interference on the five yeard line,
you threw like a bomb down the side, like dude,
I thought that was gonna be awesome, and they're like, yeah,
that's just a penalty.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You get nothing for that. And if it were just
a fifteen yard penalty, I would say just give them
the penalty. But if you thought like you had a sixty.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yard that's the major difference between college colleges is just
fifteen yards. Yeah, okay, we got fifteen yards. But the NFL,
you gotta think twice when that ball's in the air
and you're going down and you're gonna have a thirty
five forty yard potential pass interference.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I mean, that's a game changer. And those yards should
be counted for the quarterback and for the wide receiver
because it took someone cheating to take them away from you. Yeah,
but there's no telling if he's going to catch it,
doesn't matter, doesn't matter, doesn't matter. That's mine.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Jack has won too, by the way.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah games, Okay, so three and two. I got a
couple of basketball hot takes. Two. Yeah, where if you throw,
if you give someone let's say I'm let's say I'm
me playing point guard. Okay, I'm coming down and Giannis
is running beside me. We're running the break. On one,
I give Jannis, I deliver a new and he takes
(33:10):
it and as right as he dunk and he gets
the fouled out of him. Yeah. I just delivered the
greatest assist. But he was. They cheated, So you don't
get the assists. I don't get your assists. If he
makes both free throws, I should get the assist. Do
you get half an assist if he only makes one? No,
half he has to make too, he has to make two.
But it doesn't matter. There's at least an opportunity. I
think you should still be able to get your assist
(33:30):
if it was an assist, had he made that shot
when he was fouled. Okay, I see where you're going
with it. But no, they're never gonna show. So it's
not where I'm going, gets where I ended up. That's
the whole point. I have nowhere else to go. Yeah,
if you're waiting for more, I got nothing else in
the nothing else. They're never going to change it. Yeah,
it was that your second point about that.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
No, I would say that Chicago Bears nine to three
dominated when against Eagles. Did you see the post game
when Ben Johnson came in. He's got muscles, dude. He
took off his shirt and just flexed on the whole league.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
He's waiting for that. He knew he's been doing extra.
He's been waiting. I don't know what he did before pregame.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
He might have run the stairs, but he definitely fasted
that week But the other part about that, did you
see his tan? No that I didn't like. He was
super tan. And dude, you live in Chicago, it's winter time.
Do you think he facing bakes interesting facon bakes. I'm
gonna say, benj it.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm not judging because for years I had a standing
two times a week spray tan appointment because I was
on camera. You would spray tan. I had to spray tan.
You wouldn't go and just lay down in a bed.
You know, it's the razor bad for me? Yeah, yeah,
sorry buddy cancer. Yeah, I would rater. Uh yeah, he
(34:41):
was ripped. He was ripped. That was aw. I didn't
realize the tan, but I will go back and looking
at it. I will respect it.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
And will I respect the tan? I want to huh
no never, you said hump first, probably lying no. Well,
he took me off guard. You asked me if I
have ever spray tans, and I was like, no, never
in my life. I probably have somewhere between eighty and
one hundred and thirty times. Let's do it together. You
(35:07):
don't want to they bring a tent to your house.
I've always done it like hired somebody to come to it.
Because again, if I was I would never do it
for just the general esthetic. I walk around in tan
because I'd wear clothes like I don't have enough muscles
to like be muscleman and so, but if I were
going and there was a I was doing a lot
of television for like four or five years, and so
it was pale, especially like next to like Seacrest, who
(35:30):
was always Tannis Crab or Luke Tannis Crab Luke sorry, Luke.
Bryan already did this, like, Okay, what do you wear
when you spray tann I wear just my underwear.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Some dudes do it but naked. Oh they want the
full thing, full money. I don't want that spread. I'm good, yeah, yeah, no,
I don't want that down there. When I when I
was doing Dancing with the Stars, they would spray Tanni's
like crazy. They made me do it with my shirt.
They made me do an episode with no shirt once.
I have a jacket, but I'm shirtless down that's awesome.
I was so nervous. Pictures please. I actually look okay
(36:02):
because I was in good shape, but I was really
really dark. I was like, if you're gonna make me
take my shirt off, dude, like spray it. Give me
two layers. Yeah, as they say, if you can't tone it,
tan it. I was like, tan in and then give
it draws and draw something with a pencil. All right,
here's my third one. And we alluded to this a bit.
But just the injuries around the league. Sauce Gardner calfstrain,
(36:25):
stopping to calfstrain, not headed to the ir should be
back before the season ends. The Colts, they need sauce.
They need sauce. Next up, justin Herbert hand fracture. He's
dealing with a fracture in the back of his left
non throwing hand. He did undergo surgery earlier in the
week to fix it. He said, he is treating it
as if he's playing Monday. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
The big thing about that when you have a hand injury,
especially to your left hand. Thank god it's your non
throwing him, but you're not gonna be able to get
under center.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
And that leads to me talking about Aaron Rodgers, because
he has a fracture in his hand still and in
his nose busted. But I'm glad you said that because
he did not play under center for that reason, because
this non throwing hand right as risk, right, risk had
to fracture it. So when you please elaborate when you're
under center, is it because the impact of the ball hit.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
The impact of the ball, and also probably you don't
have the same strength in that hand, and so you
don't just you might fumble that snap. So they're going
to put you probably in the pistol to make it
a lot easier for you to get the ball. You're
not going to take the impact on the hand. But
what that changes, especially for an offense like the Chargers
or the Steelers, when they operate a lot under center
(37:36):
and set up their play action games and all their
runs go from under center, that changes the way the
defense looks and how they respond to it. Because you're
a pistol, You'll still be able to run play action,
it's just not as effective as when you're under center
in full selling the run. It's interesting Digs.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
With Cowboys knee injury, they open a twenty one day
of practice windows as he hopes to play versus the Lions,
which is this week. He's been hurt for a bit,
so the Cowboys love to have him back. Yeah, that
would be huge, especially in their elimination game. A big
elimination game and Joey Bose's hamstring. He left the game
early Sunday, but mcgarmott says he's day to day.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Well, Joey, let's get you back to buddy. They've had
some injuries. Man, They've been banged up as well. I mean,
there's a lot of injuries, but that's this time of.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Year or two. I feel like I might be completely
wrong on and off base on this, but there aren't
as many superstars that are gone at this point of
the season as they were the last few years. I
think that you're probably right.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I don't know what the status would be, but i'd
say that there's less quarterbacks out.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
And maybe that's why I feel that way.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Because quarterbacks over the last few years have taken a
big hit where you're seeing a lot of guys out.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I mean, Kyler Murray's out. One that I can think
of right now off the top of my head. Kyl.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
They just don't want to play him right. Part of
it because Jacoby Brissett's been balling, I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
And they're going to trade Murray.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
So but I'm saying quarterbacks that you've seen in the
past that have just been out for the entire season.
You're not really seeing that as much.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, because we just read that and like the two
quarterbacks I mentioned are still playing. They're just like hurt
but still playing. But otherwise it's defensive guys and not
the defensive guys don't matter. But it's an offensive league, right,
and it's a face of the league is the quarterback? Right?
All right?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
You're aut last point. You know the Steelers chant for
Mike Tomlin. Fire Mike Tomlin. I think it's interesting because
obviously he's one of the most well respected coaches in
all the NFL. I know that what they haven't won
a playoff game since what was it two thousand and seventeen.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Oh, it's been that long. It's been that long. I
know they've constantly been around. They've not been below, they've
been five hundred in the low above. They've been flirting with.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
It, right, And that's the part where you look at
it and you go, Okay, since twenty seventeen, that's a
long time that you haven't won a playoff game. And
I understand the frustration of the fans and the Steeler
nation and all that stuff, but maybe it is time
for Mike Tomlin to move on. I don't think that
they're going to fire him because I don't think that
that organization fires coaches like that. And he's I think
(40:13):
his contracts up in twenty twenty seven. But at the
end of the day, maybe starting at a new place,
similar to an Andy Reid right, it kind of had
run its course in Philadelphia. He gets a fresh start
with the Kansas City Chiefs. And you look at some
of these jobs, like the Giants. Would they not love
to have Mike Tomlin come in with a guy that
(40:36):
they already have a quarterback? You saw it happened with
the Patriots last year. When Mike Rabel comes in, they've
already got a quarterback. The biggest issue for the Steelers
since that time period once Roethlisberger left is they have
no consistency at the quarterback position, and so you go
to a place that even help. You don't know what's
going to happen with the Bengals. Are they going to
(40:57):
keep their coach? I don't know, But would you not.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Want to Arizona's not going to keep their coach. But
I don't think he wants to go to Arizona. I
don't know if you'd want to go to Arizona, but
he'll be the commodity out there. But it just might.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It might have run its course, is what I'm saying
with the Steelers, because you brought it up a few
weeks ago. The hardest part about the Steelers is they're
constantly over five hundred, but they're never in a position
to where they can go get a top ten draft
pick and dedicate that to a young quarterback that they
could maybe potentially develop build a program around. It's winning purgatory.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, it's winning purgatory. It's right, weren't winning enough.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
We're making the playoffs, but we're not winning playoff games
and we don't have a high enough draft pick to
change the future of our franchise because we can't find
a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I think a change of scenery would be awesome, and
it all a change the scenery doesn't always mean that
it's been a failure, and I don't think this would
be considered a failure at all.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
No, Absolutely, nobody in their right mind would say Mike
Tomlin's tenure at all with the Steelers have been a failure.
It just sometimes the organization needs a change. He might
need a change, and when that happens. I just used
a few examples. You're sitting there going, Okay, he's still
that guy, and he's young enough to be able to
do it.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
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You can go. First, Cowboys at Lions Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
I'm gonna run with the hot hand and I'm gonna
go with the Cowboys. Me too, just because I hope
the Cowboys win. It's a complete I'm not a Cowboys fan.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I'm not a hater. All my friends I lived for
twelve years in Texas and all my friends were Mexican
and all of them were Cowboy fans. And I'm in
a threat group, a group text called life long Latino
Cowboy Fans. And I'm not Latino, nor am I a
lifelong fan, and so Viva La Cowboys very much so
so yeah, I'm well, you're not lifelong Latino like I am. No,
(42:55):
I'm not. Yeah, I very much so am yeah. Yeah.
Bengals at Bills Bengals at Bills. Ooh, for the Bengals
at in Buffalo, I'm going with the Bills. For the Bank,
the Buffalo can run like eight teams as dreams in
the next few weeks.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Yeah, I mean, Bengals are living a pipe dream right now,
but they still can ruin their dreams.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
They can. The Bengals can still echin. They can't lose
and listen to the Steelers aren't good right and they
are going to play the Ravens again. And it's not
like the Ravens are world beaters. That's true. So I
don't think the Bengals make the playoffs. But if they
can get to nine wins, Man, this is last year?
Is this not last year exactly? If the Bank or
(43:37):
is it last year or two years ago? Last year?
I really missed. Yeah, dude, I don't even know what's
happened in my brain. If the Bengals can beat the Bills,
they're still in the mix. You're going with the Bills.
I'm also going to go with the Bills. It's it's
just tough to go to Buffalo in December, yeah, and win,
it really is. And then Bears at Packers. This is
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almost like the NFL's Ohio State Michigan, except not as passionate.
The fans are as passion but the players don't care
as much because they're professionals. It's not like a real rivalry.
But to the fans it is Bears that Packers. I'm
gonna go with the Packers at home. They're just.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
The Packers are playing well right now. Just went on
the road beat the Lions. Jordan Love, he did look
greatt he looked great. The fourth down conversions were a
thing of beauty. And that defense man they can get
after the best, best of offensive line.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
So I'm going to go with the Packers at home.
If the Bears beat the Packers, I am never going
to bet against them again. Yeah. I'm going to take
my shirt off and get a spray TN. I just
the Bear, Yes, yes, yeah, do some curls and get
a spray tan. Yeah, one hundred percent. I'm going to
stop down in the Bears at all if they beat
the Packers in Lambeau.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
Uh.
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Speaker 1 (45:43):
Slash audio question for you? Are you done with college?
For wall? Now done? Just finished the last week?
Speaker 4 (46:04):
So thirteen straight, hitting the road hard, no home for
the holidays. I'm all yours, babe.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I didn't like that you said to your wife. I'm
back them all years, and she's like, go on the
road again. She like it that you got some time
to go do stuff. I think that she'll appreciate me
being home on the weekends. I mean, it's a lot
on her, man.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
She takes on when I leave on Thursdays, she's got
the kids, and then like Friday nights usually were the
football nights, and she would take all five kids of
the football game because that's kind of like the social
event for school. And then weekends we've got some different activities,
whether it's a birthday party or sports event or something
like that. So it's a lot on her during season.
So I'm sure she's gonna appreciate me being home.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I know I will. You know what, I appreciate it.
Too bad. We can't go golf now.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
I know.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
I tried many times, many times. Hey may you'll play off,
I can't. I can't. Hey by me play golf. Okay,
hey may you'll play off. I can't. I can't. And
then I stopped. I've stopp playing golf. I'm stop doing everything,
like the stupid boot on. Still, how long is that on?
Foreanuary till January? Come on? I go, well, I go
this week on Friday. I've been going to rehab twice
a week.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Is it just mobility stuff or like the band work
trying to strengthen the muscles and doing all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
All And also they have this. It's two really cool things.
And I'm sure as a professional athlete you got to
experience the technological side of rehabilitation. It's crazy. It's crazy.
But there's this one thing and they do and I'm
familiar a bit with a lymphatic massage where it's not
like a massage for your muscles, but it like basically
trains your lymphatic system all the excess liquid. I could
(47:40):
be saying it wrong. No, you're doing great, thank you.
And they have this. It's basically a current where the guy,
my physical therapist, puts it on his belt so it's
connected to him and runs through the machine and then
I hold it. But then when he touches my ankle,
it's an electric current and so as he's as he's
on my ankle, it's like a like he's got gloves on. Yeah,
it's like electric powder on there. It's crazy, it's crazy,
(48:03):
it's wild, right, yep. And so that is pretty cool,
and the other you think it works some of these
things that they do, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
Probably there's definitely scientific evidence if they're using it, but
some of them, I'm like, I just don't know if
that's working much.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
There's also a machine that they use I wish I
knew the name of it, and they wrap it around
your foot and it's got a like a tube to it.
It's like ice, but there's there's no ice. It's like
called a game changer or something.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
It's the best thing ever. It's like the little black
box right there, and they put ice in there with
water in that. Cold water runs through and wraps.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Oh. I don't know if it's that, but that's also cool.
It's fantastic. It's like like electricity makes it cold as
it's on your foot and it's instant and it freezes. Yeah.
Let's see hold on, hold on, uh cold therapy machine wrap,
(49:04):
injury wrap. Let's see what it gives me. That's your assistant.
Let's see what it gives me. It's not called game right.
Oh here, it is game ready. Yeah, game ready. That's
exactly ready. Okay, so we could have been talking about
the same thing, but there's no they don't put water
in that yes, they do. They Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
So you see that the black tube that they sit
in there, and that connects to the thing that you're
talking about, the that wraps around they put ice and
then water and that cold water goes through.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
It's amazure that they didn't give that to you right
after the surgery. What do you mean normally some some
surgeon's like my brother just got his shoulder redone and
they gave it to him from the doctor's office because
the machine.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
You know how much the machine costs. Let's preaty. I
mean they let him borrow it. It's three thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
They didn't ask them to buy it. Oh, there's no
way of using it if he had to pay three didn't.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Let me borrow it. I got online. I was like,
do I need to buy this? I didn't. You can
rent it. You definitely bought one. I didn't. I thought
about it though. You're going to do it today though
I'm not. Possibly. That's it. Thank you guys for being here.
If you missed the first episode, we already did one
to go check it out for earlier this week. That
is Matt Castle. That is kicked off Kevin. That is
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Morgan over there running cameras. I'm Bobby Bones. We've had
lots to say. We'll see you next week. Everybody by
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