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October 8, 2025 47 mins

Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel talk about their favorite baseball teams and how much they are watching the postseason.  Matt recaps his weekend are joined by Super Bowl Champion Dallas Clark (@Dallaslark44). Dallas explains how he went from a LB to a TE and ended up getting a scholarship at Iowa after being a walk-on player. Matt and Dallas get after each other about USC and Iowa playing in a bowl game against each other. 

Dallas reveals why he didn't wear gloves but did he ever give it a try? Matt asks about the culture of the Colts when Dallas arrived and how he worked with a coach that hated him. Matt and Dallas recall how harsh coaches talked and how much things have changed in today's game.  Dallas also reveals some of the rookie pranks they played during training camps. Dallas wraps up with his Top 3 live concerts he's ever attended, including going to one solo. 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots, just say, we got lots to save
what Becker and we hope you say because we got
lost said, Yeah, we got lots just say.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Here's Bobby that. We have an excellent interview with Dallas
Clark coming up in a second.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
One of my favorite of all time. And you know Dallan, Yes.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
We've run into each other a number of different events
and things like that over the years. We've got a
lot of friends. They're mutual friends. So he's an awesome dude.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, and obviously we've recorded the interview. It's one of
my favorite ever. I the word I shouldn't be surprised.
I can't believe he's so big.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Six', five like two fifty two fifty, five ran like
a four to six four four six five. Flying that's,
crazy crazy. Athlete so we'll talk to.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Him coming up in just a. SECOND a couple of
THINGS i want to ask. You number, one do you
have a favorite baseball? Team favorite baseball TEAM i would
have to go with THE La.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Dodgers and it's not Because i'm a front runner and
because we have an all star team and we're, awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
And you've won, championship and.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
We've won championships. Recently BUT i did grow up In Los,
angeles so it's. Easy are you watching Any i've been
watching a little. Bit it's still a bit early in.
Playoff i'm a Massive cups, Fan, OKAY i have been
my whole. Life so we win The Visional.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Series pretty cool when two or three from The Padres
padres are playing pretty good. Ball we know we don't
have pitching, death but our depth won the. Game we
got into. It The, brewers they scored nine runs in
the first two, Innings game one.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Over that's a. Lot that's a. Lot it's a. Lot
and then On monday night.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
We played Them game, two we go up three, zero
and then quickly it's four to three and then we've
so it's five game. Series AND i was with one
of my best, Friends brett is From, illinois and we're,
like all, right we're gonna win this series and we're
going up for the FREAKING.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Nlc, yes, yes it. Ain't it's not. Good we live one. More,
yeah you're down To it's, okay it'll be. Great bestive
get in a. Row you gotta win three in a.
Row tony, up let's. Go if it were up to,
me we'd be. Winning if you're up to, me would
would be up. Starting i'd be the.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Year, Yes i'd be owing in the it's the same,
time be, pitching.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Pitching and playing first dropping. Bombs they would need a first.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
BASEMENT i would be doing both so we could have
an extra outfielder BECAUSE i could get to.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Both that's HOW i. Do i'm Just i'm a. Ballplayer
how was your game this? Weekend?

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Game this week we went To Ohio. State we're at,
show which was great. Environment they Played. Minnesota there's a
little bit of difference in terms of the type of
players that you saw on each. Team minnesota had a
great first, drive goes, down kick a field, goal and
then that was about. It Then Ohio state, said, hey we're,
home let's rock and. Roll but Watching Ohio, STATE i

(03:11):
Mean Jeremiah, smith that kid's going to be top draft.
Pick they've Got Carnell tits another wide. Receiver they've got
dudes all over the. Field that young, Kid Julian sayan
was his five, star number ONE qb playing great. Football
so just all all in, all there there's a reason
they're the number one team in the.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Nation you like, SAYING i mean because before the year,
started it was, like who's going to start a?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Quarterback like is he the? Guy now he's the. Guy
he's the.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Guy he's just a natural thrower of the, football redshirt,
freshman and you can see the arm. Talent he can
make every single. Throw he's got a quick, delivery good decision.
Maker and then when you surround, Him, yeah with those,
GUYS i, mean he got the keys of the. Ferrari
so if you can play the position and throw the
ball to those, guys you're gonna be just.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Fine my debate, is DO i go To knoxville On
saturday to Watch arkansas At.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Tennessee that would be. Awesome it will be a great.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Environment it's not a noon, game which is great for, environment,
right because it's a worse ironment if you go to
an ELEVEN am or a noon game in central time.
Zone it's eleven o'clock, games, right but That's, eastern so
to be a noon, game but it's a it's a
three twenty five.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Game BUT i know we're probably gonna get.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Run, well especially wasn't it last year that they beat
him and upset them by.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Day you mean we yeah, YEAH i mean you yeah,
me because you KNOW i.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
DO i freaking pony up when it's time to.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
So might as well go and see what.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Happens but we fired a coach obviously right that, rallies
the team had an off, week and Now Bobby petrino's
the head coach. Again you know he's going to come
up with some stuff for this. GUY i want to
ride his motorcycle In. No, NO i don't want to
go and get beat seventy to.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Nothing THOUGH.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
I don't think you guys will get beat seventy to.
Nothing LIKE i, said you guys got a decent, squad
but it'll be. ROCKING i, mean seventy and nothing's a
hell of a score right. There that means you just
like lay down and.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Die the problem is if you Go, toville you leave
and for three days all you hear in your head
Is Rocky.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Top oh for, sure that's all they play. At that is.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
All they especially what every time they, Score AND i
just know it's gonna be full Of Rocky. Top So
i'm deciding IF i want to go or. Not and
they have a pregnant wife so that's my excuse IF
i don't.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Go it was, like, oh she's. Pregnant she wasn't feeling,
great so you're. GOING i don't.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Know are you a supporter of the program or? Not
are you gonna be there For Bobby? PATRINA i am
a supporter of the program in many. Ways bobby needs you.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
THERE i don't Think bobby knows.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
He has. Not, okay so you're gonna hear. Me now
go to an intro Of Dallas.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Park all, Right now over To colt's great tied, End Dallas, clark,
which by the, way On Instagram Dallas clark underscore forty,
four twenty fourth overall pick in the two thousand and three,
draft won A Super bowl With Colts Super bowl forty
one versus The. Bears was the first tied end with

(06:06):
a one hundred plus. Season as far as, receptions he
Was All pro AND o nine THE Iowa hall Of
fame in twenty two The Cult ring Of. HONOR i
loved watching him play big. Fan here he, Is Dallas, Clark,
dallas thanks for coming on the show.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Man this is.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Incredible how you guys Doing we are doing.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Awesome we were just having a full conversation about you
And matt was giving me the Entire Dallas Clark collegiate
story of you going To iowa as a walk on.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Linebacker what the?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Heck, yes, sir, yeah you, know everyone's path has been
a straight, Line. BOBBY i, mean you got to have
some pit stops along the, way and you think you're,
tough you think you're a, linebacker and you just want
to be better than your brother who played At Iowa,
state And Coach farrens had enough of. It he was just,

(06:54):
like you, stink and he's, like but you're athletic as,
hell and we need to try to find a spot for.
You and after about a year OF i, mean he
had my Roommate kyle, McCann who is one of my
best friends in our starting quarterback at the, time and had,
him you, know convincing me to make the, change AND

(07:15):
i FINALLY i, did and thank, god OTHERWISE i would
not be talking to you right, now because you would
not want to talk to a hell of a pee,
teacher and you guys would have someone else talk. To
so it worked out pretty.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Good talk about that transition going from, linebacker did you
have offensive experience going back to high school and stuff like,
that or was it something that you're starting at ground.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Zero, well my oldest Brother, dan who was a stud,
quarterback Solid division three, quarterback he just didn't get the.
Heights he's probably the most athletic out of three of
the three OF us. Boys but he SO i was
with all time receiver in the. BACKYARD i MEAN i
was always you, know running routes for him growing. Up
and then WHEN i got to high, SCHOOL i was

(08:01):
the most. Athletic so all, Right i'm the, quarterback you,
know AND i probably about more interceptions than completion, Sometimes,
Matt and, uh SO i could have used some advice from.
YOU i appreciate. That and then uh and THEN i
just was an. Athlete. UH i played linebacker and. Quarterback and,
HONESTLY i just told the. RECRUITS i went and talked

(08:23):
to some recruits At iowa here this last. WEEKEND i
told them, that, HONESTLY i think the only REASON i
got asked to walk on is because my brother was
a linebacker At Iowa. State and you, know in state
rival that's, huge, Right like if you, could like if
if a kid that place For Iowa state it comes To,
iowa that's huge And Iowa state what they had some,

(08:45):
issues and they didn't they didn't talk to me at.
ALL i sent OUT. Vhs i'm, Myself, Bobby i'm dating.
MYSELF i made a highlight video and my brother Played Iowa.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
State.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Right SO i went To colorado AND i went to Uh,
bailey you, know all these. Schools But i'm, like, man
that'd be fun to, play that'd be fun to. Play and,
again no one is looking at. ME i Mean i'm
talking you, like no one like not that division, two not,
one you, know AND i you, know, one double a.
Anything AND i make A vhs AND i send it To, Wisconsin,
colorado all these schools THAT i went to and wanted

(09:21):
to And iowa was the only one that. Replied and
uh maybe it was the only NUMBER i wrote legibly
that they could write call, back but it, LITERALLY i
mean it's the only. One and uh and and AND
i know, that you, Know i'm a true believer that
things happened for a, reason and and the and the
men that were at that, school and and to help
with you, know, uh my mom passed four days BEFORE

(09:43):
i graduated high. School so LITERALLY i went from like
like like like losing my family to my football family
and AND i MEAN i couldn't ask For Coach, Farents Coach,
doyle all those, Guys Coach, Morgan Coach, blama he is my. Linebacker.
COACH i, mean they took me in and, man DID
i give them? Everything? Everything it was.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Awesome did you take to it, well because again it
happened pretty.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Quick you red shirted yet another.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Year but then it seemed again just looking on, paper
that you took to it quick and started to.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Perform is that real life or is that a bit of?
Revision is? History SO i made.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
The decision after my sophomore. Year actually it's my red.
Shirt red. SHIRT i didn't play football for the first two.
Years it's a long, story BUT i broke my collar
bone in my summer of my senior. Year So bielim was, like,
hey why don't your great? Shirt SO i took nine
hours my freshman my freshman, year SO i didn't join

(10:38):
the team until that spring of ninety. Nine and that's
When farence came. On it's When Hayden fry, Left farence came.
In So FARENCE i came in literally the same. Time and,
uh and thank god they let me in BECAUSE i
Was Hayden fry is doing with asking me to walk
on and and so so WHEN i WHEN i when
he when he made the, decision WHEN i made the,

(10:59):
decision say, Okay i'll do this tight end. Thing we
spent all, Summer LIKE i, Said toyle was my, roommate
and he literally talked me the offense like we're we
would go over the field and he's, like, okay this
is a ten yard out, route and and and talk
about like you, know putting on that like that that
pair of jeans that fits just. Right you, know like
this whole TIME i was playing, linebacker not NOT i wasn't,

(11:24):
ME i mean backyards linebacker called me. Up i'm your,
guy Like i'm first. PICK i, WILL i, WILL i
will tackle the, football but DIVISION i mean, football real real.
Linebacker there's there's. Responsibilities you got, gas you got you,
know it's like the balls over, There i'm gonna go tackle. Foot,
no you got this Gap like that's. BORING i want
to go tackle. Football and so but tight, end give

(11:46):
me a ten yard out. Route get open against this.
Dude it was it was. Natural it felt great and
it was just, like oh my, Gosh i've been fighting
this for so long is so it was uh and
it was. Great it was like, quarterback you, Know kyle
taught me how to run routes and THEN i go
to go To indianapolis and THEN i have another quarterback

(12:08):
that just kind of tells me like, hey get, here
and it's like, OKAY i can do, that you. Know
so it's just it just you, know both both positions
or both places offenses just really click for.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
Me you.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Know nowadays on social, media you see all these videos
of these kids getting granted their scholarship in front of the,
team and it's really cool for me to watch BECAUSE
i remember when it happened when we were AT. Usc
but what was it like when you're going into that
sec that senior year.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Of yours and you were put on.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Scholarship was there a ceremony where you called in the
office like you walk us through.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
That, Well i'm getting goosebumps right. Now and actually you
want to know what, Here i'll show you sorry to.
Leave i'm not leaving. You i'm not leaving.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
You walk off to, me, GUYS i gotta get this is.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
What it means to.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Me.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Guys, uh here's HERE'S i don't know if it's here's
my my first. Scholarship this is my first TIME i
wrote my name And i'm. Sorry there you. Go so
that Is that's WHAT i. MEAN i HAVE i don't
even know where My Super bowl ring, is, right you.
Know so that's like, HONESTLY i gets in a drawer
somewhere around. Here but that thing that has more that

(13:34):
has more of a story than than. Anything and, uh you,
KNOW i mean that was that was a special. Moment
and you, know making making my own meals after, practice
and and NOW i can just go in and just
get in line with the scholarship guys and and just
walk in and they don't tell ME i can't eat.

(13:54):
Here you. Know it's a pretty it's a pretty it's pretty.
Cool uh you. Know and and uh and it was,
hard and it was you know a lot of a
lot of sacrifice and a lot to you, KNOW i
had to like shut the noise out BECAUSE i have
people back. HOME i mean, everything it's, like what is
that kid?

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Doing like he' the?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Visual you, KNOW i you, know IF i listen to
any of, that couldn't, couldn't, RIGHT i, mean it's it's
just Who it's. Awesome it's.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
AWESOME i want to ask one More iowa, question what
was Coach barents.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Like he's he's the, best he is he, is you,
know he just became the winningest coach In Big ten,
history which just says so. Much AND i, mean obviously
that's a record THAT i don't, KNOW i don't know
when that'll be, broke but that one's a big. ONE
i mean taking Down Woody. HAYES i, MEAN i, mean
like you Think, WOODY i, mean that's that's college football

(14:49):
that you, know that IS i mean that that's the
top and uh and so for him to accomplish, that
just the guy that really just makes, it keeps it,
SIMPLE i mean just does not you, know no bs
just you go to work and. Uh and he came
in and you, know one in one and, ten one

(15:10):
and eleven our first year bad, Right and we had
a culture shift that we had to you, know we
had to adjust and they had to adjust and and
had some egos that they had to write and and
uh and and man just put in that culture of
we're gonna out, work we're gonna be, tougher we're gonna be,
stronger we'll be faster and and and and and and

(15:30):
that was that was kind of you know what we
the hook we hung our hat. On and. Uh and
so he just he's just an unbelievable leader of men
and just you, know delegates responsibility and lets his coordinators
and his position guys work and and uh but when
he talks and and it just and and when he

(15:51):
cries after a, win you, KNOW i, MEAN i, mean
tell me a, GUY I i, Mean I'm i'm a,
crier you. Know SO I i mean for a guy
that just like if if you're if you feel it
and if you're passionate about Like I'M i will follow
you how far you into, fire you. Know and so
so he was that. Guy HE'S i, mean he bleeds
blocking gold and and, UH i mean he is the

(16:12):
face of that at, forever for that, uh for that
university and that. Program it's a it's.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Incredible so your senior, year you go, out you ball
out All American mack you, Wait, Matt, Matt.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Sorry i'm sorry to, run BUT i, MEAN i mean you,
guys you guys do a little. BIT i came out early.
TOO i, mean how Cold i'm?

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Crazy is that that's even? Better you're LIKE i could
play it extra. Year But i'm. Ready, Okay i'm. Ready i'm.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Ready i'm. Ready SO i came out. Early so SO
i mean senior, year senior?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Year who needs senior? YEAR i was when you, know you,
know when you know you? Know but to be, fair
was it your fourth year since you did gray?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Shirt, actually, Actually, bobby it was probably my sixth.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
YEAR i mean he took a yellow yellow shirt gray.
SHIRT i read of.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
PILLERS i was it literally? WAS i mean so age,
WISE i. WAS i was definitely. Ready maturity, WISE i
was definitely. Ready h school, WISE i was already a.
DOCTOR i mean, athletically it was time to, go you. Know,
SO i, mean, LIKE i THINK i would have probably
gotten arrested IF i came back for my Senior you're, like,

(17:19):
dude you're you're, collecting you have a four OHE, k
how why do you still thinking? Football so got out
and sorry, Interrupt so back to your.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Question, No so the question is were you anticipating going first?
Round you didn't? Know and then where'd you watch the?
Draft and when you got your name called it twenty?
Four what was that like to The Indianapolis?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Colts, well you, know and still TODAY i wake up
with kind of a walk on. Mentality so like WHEN
i was WHEN i WHEN i was deciding whether to come,
OUT i was, like man And Robert gallery was a.
Year we were in the same, grade same, class and
we were both like he was the, dude and we

(17:59):
had these conversations, Like, hey you, Going I'M i don't.
Know are you?

Speaker 4 (18:01):
GOING i don't?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Know how are you? Going how do we find? Out
do you? Know so you just don't? Know, Right robert
decided to go back to senior, year becomes the second
pick of the. Draft, yeah great, call great. CHOICE i
was just mentally. Ready and we played in The Orange.
Bowl we got our butts kicked BY. USC i.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Actually was on that.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Team, yeah it was a Good it was a good
start for you.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Guys do you remember, That, hey.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Hey, Hey matt uh talk about not doing? Research, man
why couldn't you, hey why couldn't you be? Hot carson Paul,
ER i mean had a little, hitch had a little
hitch in his.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Throw, yeah, man, yeah come.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
That, YEAH i felt LIKE i could throw it sixty
yards down the field on a.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Time oh my, Gosh, hey that, Team, okay you guys
got screwed. That you were the best team in the.
Country that you guys were freaking, loaded AND i mean,
HOLY i mean it was not a weak position and

(19:02):
it was. Unreal uh but, yeah so, yeah we got butts.
Kicked SO i. Apologize, Congratulations Ring ring.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Fits it was, Awesome it was.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
AWESOME i appreciate you guys looked awesome and warm up,
though and that first kickoff return that you guys had was.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Unbelievable, okay, okay we're going. There, yeah so you know. What,
okay so full circle, Here, Matt how crazy is? This
so we Played Donna mimy right, right that's where The
Orange bowl. Was four years, uh four years, Later i'm
playing in The Super bowl in the exact same. Stadium
i'm on the exact same, sideline and guess what happens

(19:38):
on the first play.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Of the game kickoff Return Kevin.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Hester Touchdown, bears And i'm sitting there and the place
is going. Nuts i'm, Like i've seen this. Before and guess.
What the team that has the opening kickoff for a
touchdown does not. Farewell both teams are zeroing, Too So
i'm just HAPPY i was on the one with the,

(20:03):
big the Big Lombardi. Trophy so, Offense hawk, guys but,
uh uh, yeah so but, yeah that was uh that
Was uh so back to your question about what WAS i.
READY I i had no, idea and BUT I i
just felt in my. Heart it's, like so ONCE i
made the, decision told coach, parents, uh let's do, this

(20:25):
and he, WAS i mean he was great and obviously.
Supportive and and then when that and and my brother
was supposed to get drafted two years, earlier he was
a stud linebacker FOR i Of state AND i he
had the draft, party you, KNOW i back home and
we had you, know, neighbors, friends, family and he didn't get,

(20:49):
drafted and oh, MAN i saw that AND i. WITNESSED
i WAS i, mean that's. Hard that was. HARD i was, like,
okay so you, Know i'm gonna learn from. That and
so WHEN i did, It, uh at that, time my
brothers had had a, little had a little had a
little that had actually both of them had a couple of,
kids and so it was, like, okay let's do a.

(21:10):
Pool it's you, know someplace where we can run. Around
so we just did OUTSIDE i was city or inside
you know outside ioa city was a small nice hotel
and it WAS i told no one told no one
it was LIKE i was so. NERVOUS i was just, Like.
Okay we went and played, golf got back about picked,
twelve sat, down had had had had a, sandwich And

(21:31):
Bill pollyne. CALLS i, said, hey we're going to take
you at the twenty fourth. Pick and And matt as
you know like, that there's nothing there's nothing better than
that phone. Call and uh and and and, YEAH i
mean your life literally. Changes and and the WAY i
looked at, it it's just a hell of an, opportunity you.

(21:51):
Know and it was it was time to go to,
work and and just uh just went in with a
freaking ballifier to see WHERE i could fit in and
help this organization.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Out why no?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Gloves, okay well we kind of touched on it all.
Right so that, summer When kyle was throwing me the,
ball it is eight thousand degrees In. IOWA i was wearing,
gloves and you, know after an hour of running, routes
AND i mean they're just, sweat you, know they're just dripping.
SWEAT i take them off and we keep working and it's,

(22:24):
like oh my, gosh this feels so. Good this this this,
THIS I i can feel the ball and uh AND
i mean it just and SO i and like gloves to,
ME i don't, know it's kind of my meat heead,
ish Like i'm a linebacker, tough you. Know BUT i
took those gloves, off put wristbands, on helped stop control

(22:45):
the sweat a little bit on on my on my.
Hands and and then WHEN i made that transition to you,
know you Had reggie And marv look at, me, like,
bro you're not. Working you're not gonna work. Gloves i'm,
LIKE i don't think so like SHOULD? I i don't.
Know let's see how it. Goes let's see how it.
Goes so and of course trading camps In terajta are

(23:09):
equally as hot and, humid and so no gloves were
the way to. Go it, was it, Was it was.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
Awesome did you ever regret in a game going in
that was cold not wearing gloves or did you ever
actually wear gloves as a kid and as a professional,
ATHLETE i.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Never WORE i ACTUALLY i take that, BACK i wore. Glove. No,
NO i didn't wear gloves in high school, either BECAUSE
i was, quarterbacks SO i wasn't gonna take them on
and take them off and do all. That so but,
no THERE i did wear. Gloves we were in AS
i was playing For baltimore and it was a it
was a WINDY i, mean it was a horrible day

(23:48):
and it was just uh and kind of wet ish
and and kind of and it was it was one
of those rains where it. COLD i put them on
AND i AND i caught my five hundredth reception wearing,
them WHICH i was kind of you, know like, sacrilegious
Like i'm getting soft gets off and it's kind of
probably the REASON i knew it was, Like, okay it's
time to time to shut her. Down but but, no,

(24:10):
yeah the the gloves did come on for for that.
Game but but, no it was it was just it
WAS i mean now THAT i got my LIKE i
got knuckles that you, KNOW i, mean you, know so
it's just, yeah SO i you, know you, know my
hand modeling career is. Done it's. Shot you. Know so
that was a, bad you, know post career. DECISION i

(24:31):
could have definitely used that extra uh extra money on
on my, hand uh you, know modeling for tag you,
know watches or. Something but, uh but, yeah you, know
SO i had TO i had to move.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
On when you got at you a hundred balls in a,
season does it feel like you're getting the ball all the.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Time, well, NO i feel LIKE i have four eyes
staring at me Named marvin And reggie, going, heyde your
your tight, end go block so we can catch the.
Ball so that was The that was my weekly, battle,
like you, know just kind of, like, UH i was,

(25:26):
open you, know just if you, want you, know just
if you need one paydon you Know i'm open on,
that you, know just, SO i mean it was it was.
AWESOME i mean it. WAS i LOVE i love those.
Guys they made me better watching those guys. Practice but,
no it was the sad, thing the one like the

(25:46):
one THING i really wish it would have played. Out
it was the year after The Super bowl twenty ten,
Season week, Six we're PLAYING dc Or washington And sunday
Or monday night game AND i go across the middle
like three minutes, LEFT i, mean game, done AND i
land AND i tear three ligaments in my. Wrist and

(26:08):
at that POINT i don't even know WHAT i, MEAN
i was on pace for something. STUPID i, mean it
was just like it was video game like cheat, code
like like like up, down up, down, left, right left
right contra type, stuff and, SO i it was. AMAZING
i WISH i could have finished that season out because
the ball was. HUGE i was getting. NO i MEAN

(26:31):
i felt. Invincible you. Know that Was peyton AND i
were just on a you, know we're just, connected AND
i mean that was that Was, oh that was gonna
be a fun. One that was gonna be a fun.
One that that that was too.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Bad talk to me about just the organization of culture
at that. Time when you walk, In you've Got Peyton,
manning you Got Marvin, harrison you Got Reggie, Wayne Edrin
james on the other, Side Fringy. MATHIS i, mean was
it such an environment that the players set the standard
and controlled the locker room and that the coaches didn't
really have to say Much Like, Tony.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
YEAH i mean we we we had our, lanes, RIGHT i,
MEAN i mean you name those guys AND i mean
you're GETTING i mean it's JUST i, mean you have dudes.
THERE i, mean those guys are. STRONG i mean some
of the best Competitors i've ever played with or. AGAINST I,
mean those guys just love. Ball ego was just, minimal you,

(27:25):
KNOW i mean. Controllable you, know so you have, that
which is a huge. PLUS i mean limits the drama
and and they're just so you, know at, home there's
drama and locker, rooms all, right it's just sorry, there
it's just it's it's sometimes the locker room isn't big
enough for the egos and then and all. That, so

(27:46):
but it was one of those things WHERE i mean
literally WHEN i got in, There i'm trying to figure
out did you call the right? Guy like why what
AM i here for? It because you guys are, loaded
uh you. Know so it was just really kind of
a a place to Just, OKAY i need to make my,
NICHE i need to find my and SO i kind
of brought that walk on mentality BECAUSE i MEAN i

(28:08):
was surrounded by dudes and so it's kind of, Like,
OKAY i GOTTA i want them to believe THAT i.
Belong and so Following Reggie wayne And Marvin, harrison how
they practice how they care. Themselves Peyton manning obviously well
documented on how his Leadership Jeff saturday and watching Just
Dwight freeny and his nuances of eating steak and rice

(28:33):
every morning because his blood metabolism sugar all it's just
like what you do what like no like every day
and still. Does but it just it was the coolest locker.
ROOM i mean we had, personnality we had. Everything and
so but when it was time to come on the,
field we, WORKED i mean and we freaking got after

(28:56):
each other and we and AND i mean the game
was almost the game was, easy, RIGHT i mean we've
MADE i, mean and obviously it Was peyton was the
leader of, that but it was OUR i, mean we
had some we had some coaches Like Howard mudd rest
In peace was THE i, mean he hated.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Me he hated.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Me he hated Tight ends because we got in the
way of linemen and we made his lineman oh targ
glen and we made them look bad and all. That
oh we got to teach these you, know these poor.
Kids we need to teach them how to block the,
edge you. Know and and so it was just hated,
me hated me and and and got mf every fricking.
Day AND i loved. IT i loved.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
It And Tom.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Moore hated, me and, uh and so it was. AWESOME i,
mean you, yea would it change?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
It and?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Uh and SO i mean it was you. SHOW i,
mean you didn't have an off. Day you didn't you
couldn't just show up and Say i'm gonna go through the.
Motions and then you hear, like you, know especially now
you hear you hear back from old, players and you,
know like The Baltimore, ravens you, know like how they
would go Out friday Night, saturday you, know Like friday,
night maybe Even, saturday and maybe slip away a little
Bit saturday. AFTER i, mean it's just like, wait, What

(30:07):
like we couldn't roll like, that but they'd go on
they they would shine On, sunday you know WHAT i.
Mean and you, know but it was it was very
like everyone knew their role and you showed up every
day and there was no. Letdown there was no no
room for. That and it was. AWESOME i mean it
was it was and people could strive in that. Environment

(30:29):
and some people crashed and. Burned AND i had that
locker next to me that was that was the crash
and burn. LOCKER i, mean it was like every freaking,
year every six, weeks it was just, oh, hey how you.
Doing I'm Dalla. Stark nice to, me tight and nice
to meet. You oh, hey, hey, Nice, oh welcome to the.
Team welcome you, know it's just so it wasn't for

(30:50):
the faint of, heart that's for.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Sure if you, jumped if you, held if you ran
the wrong route and you came back to the, huddle
what Was peyton.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Like, mmmm, Well, bobby you you made sure that never.
Happened uh and then and, uh you, KNOW i mean
it was you, know it was it was obviously that, happens,
RIGHT i mean that's ball and and and uh and
and certainly you know the biggest thing is you just
make sure you don't happened. Twice you. Know so if

(31:19):
it happens on A, tuesday you, know you hope it's
like Next wednesday when that happened. Again but if it Happens,
wednesday you, know or you, Know, thursday you, know and
then it's then we got a, problem you. Know and
so it's just it was it was just always. THAT i,
mean you just always had you just had, it you
know that you had that THAT i don't know what it,

(31:40):
was but it With Tom moore just like looking at
you overs glusses. Ghosts, hey we don't play Any northwestern.
Here we everyone's, scholarships you, know and so everyone has
A tom more. Voice and SO i mean it WAS i,
mean and and and we watched the film the next you,
know the next, day so like you screw up and

(32:00):
you HAD i, mean you had to go home and,
LIKE i, MEAN i should have had a therapist a.
Home OH i. Did it is is my black Lab,
Indy AND i mean it would go throw a stick
Because i'm, like, hey hey, girl guess What i'm Gonna
i'm gonna get yelled at really really bad. TOMORROW i,
RAN i missed the hot route And peyton Got peyton got,
sacked you, know and SO i it's just it's that
type of stuff that you just like you just know

(32:22):
it's coming and and you learned to you learn to take.
It but it's, definitely, uh it was. Awesome it was
ALL i. Mean AND i don't know IF i think
it's like that. ANYMORE i don't. Know AND i hate
to sound like that old, guy BUT i just feel
LIKE i don't. Know i'm not even gonna get on that.
Topic but it JUST i, mean, MAN i, mean they.

(32:44):
Would then you have Coach dungee who is, like will
never swear LIKE i heard him swear my very first.
Game we're Playing cleveland and we won nine to. Six
And Nick harper. Missed he forgot to blitz and they
got the first down and he took his. Headset i'm
sitting on down and it's eight thousand degrees in the

(33:04):
icy so and he runs downside AND I i THINK
i heard him. SWEAR i SWEAR i heard him. Swear
but that's about the only, time you. KNOW i, mean
that guy is the best. Human he's the. Best he is, unreal.
Unreal he just turned seventy here two days. Ago it
was it was it was sweet to send him that

(33:24):
that that that birthday.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
TEXT i love hearing.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
That other, organizations they kind of have the same mentality
when it comes to. COACHING i remember getting sacked on
a three step, drop which is the ultimate no No
Dante scarnaki and.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Our old line.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
COACH i can hear him from the sideline going do castle,
you And i'm.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Like, GOD i don't want to walk over there right
now at.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
All it was just it was a different mentality back,
then like that's just how we grew.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Up but uh my next question would be the, Best, yeah,
best who did you? Say?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Man, OKAY i talk way. Too i'm. SORRY i understand
how this, works but like so like when you watched
the game right, Now, Matt, LIKE i, mean it's it's
just completely, different, RIGHT i, mean it's just it Is
it's like everybody finds their role and you've got a
few players that step.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Out but you don't see these coaches just raging on
the sideline like they used. TO i remember walking off just,
going oh my, god he's about to rip into me so.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Bad, Right and AND i just, DON'T i, DON'T i.
DON'T i MEAN i was just At indie for for
the first game for Mister ersay's uh induction in The
ring Of, honor and and you just watch the sideline
and and and and and we get to be behind
the scenes and it's just and it's, yeah it's just so.

(34:40):
Anyway but but HERE i. Am i'm sure the old
boys in the seventies and, eighties you, know probably look
at us like H Kareem madonna's you, know you guys
know soft you, know SO i, think you, Know i'm
sure that's just a thing of getting. Old does that
just mean we're?

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Old we?

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Are we are we?

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Are, yeah Dog, ess.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Who would you say was the funniest or most underrated
personality when you go into those locker room into your locker.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Room well later, on later on we Had pat, mcfeet you,
know which he was destined from day one to be
who he is and and and have the the following
and and the impact that he has because that, GUY
i remember and we just talked about this. Here uh

(35:41):
WHEN i was back In india and he came to
me and he's, Like, Dallas he's, like you, KNOW i
THINK i might be, done uh, not you know in
a few. Years i'm, like uh, No, pat, hey we're
football like, that there's nothing left for like that is
all we can. Do he's, like, NO i Think i'm
Gonna i'm gonna do this radio. THING i think it's

(36:01):
gonna work. Out i'm, Like, pat kicked until your damn
life falls. OFF i, mean that, guy he saw, it
he saw, it and and AND i love. IT i
LOVE i LOVE i love things like. That BUT i,
mean But, peyton obviously he's the only one that could
like get away with everything and and it shined during training.
Camp we shined during training. Camp last. Night it was

(36:25):
kind of you, know everything everything, was everything was fair.
Game and so we would and we got some great
video and, uh but we would take fifty five you,
know fifty five gallon garbage, cans and we'd be in the.
Dorms we'd be a tear hope And i'm sorry cleaning,
People uh, sorry not, Sorry, uh but we'd feel these

(36:47):
we'd go into, showers feel these things about halfway go
to a, Rookie go to a kid that you, know
maybe just you, know kind of annoyed us a, little you,
know just like you, know it kind of had a
little you, know ego kind of came, in you, know
a little. Cocky we had kind of you, know cut
him down a few, notches you, know just lean that
up just, perfect and bang on their. Door and they

(37:08):
would open that, door and we'd run down the sideline
or down the hall and we'd just be peeking out
and you could hear the wave of water just overtaking
the dorm room some of. Them and we would take
off running and then we'd go go grab the. Canon
we'd we'd get someone, else AND i, mean it was it.

(37:30):
Was we took a golf. Cart we took one of
Our Scottie gore Or Jeffrey, gorman he was A pr
guy or he was kind of our radio. Host we
took his golf cart and we put it out on
the on the raft that The Terra hot has this
fun little pond on their. Campus and we a couple
of linemen went out and drug the raft into the onto,

(37:52):
shore parked the golf cart onto the, raft and then
drug the raft out back down to the. Pond and
so he wakes up his car on the. RAFT i,
mean you just can't make. THIS i mean it is
and that's and and and here's the, thing and and

(38:12):
that stuff equals. Wins AND i, MEAN i, MEAN I
i don't have a theory or an equation to make
it how it. Works but when you have that connection
with your, dude and and AND i mean sometimes in
that fourth quarter down by, four need a, touchdown minute
thirty seven on the. Clock you're In New england or

(38:33):
you're in you, Know, nashville and and division, rivals you
find a. Way you find a. Way and because you're
rolling with your dog and and and you're, you're, you're
you're you, know they're gonna do their job And i'm
gonna freaking do my, job and we're gonna find a.
Way and AND i know that that is that was

(38:53):
our niche that was our thing for our team like
we we, loved we loved each. OTHER i mean we
we FREAKING i mean even to this. DAY i mean
when we get, together it's, like, man you know it's it's.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
It's special final question and thanks for the. Time this
is really it's really one of our favorite interviews. Ever
what do you what do you do?

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Now? Like what's fulfilling to? You you say, that you
KNOW i have not said it to one. Person i'm just.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Kidding CAN i say something about, you? Dude first of,
all big? Fan, Uh, MATT i know you AND i
would go way back and and UH i had some
great great battles uh and uh and we have equal
friends uh With Ryan. Lilja but, UH i HAVE i

(39:42):
have a story for, You bobby that SO I i,
FARM i farm back here and uh and we're about
ready to harvest beans, tomorrow Which i'm really excited. About
BUT i have, cattle and So i'm in my skids
here AND i don't know so your your your. SHOW
i listened to The Bobby Bone show in the morning
and my skids here and you and your CREW u

(40:05):
AND i think it's like ninety four or. FIVE i
don't even. KNOW i have three preset, station because that's
about only stations that that that that that come in
clear and your show is, on and, Dude I've i've
enjoyed your show and the things you guys talk. About
And i'm A i'm a music junkie and so like
it it. Is uh SO I god gave me a

(40:27):
terrible gift of the passion for, music but zero. ABILITY
i can't sing the damn. THING i can't. Play i've
tried to play the guitar like seventeen. Times but, DUDE i,
mean BUT i will go AND i will freaking air
guitar any live show and uh and be the best
uh probably probably the best in the. STADIUM i, MEAN i,

(40:48):
mean but, anyway, no but big fan of. You and
uh this is when you WHEN i got this on
the when this email came, Across i'm, like, both no,
way like it's it is talent that low right. NOW
i mean they are. SCRAPING i am like, that like
that third like macaroni and, cheese like that that third

(41:09):
noodle that you're really trying to scrape out of the,
barrel you, know the. Pan i'm, like, what, okay, wait
you guys.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Are let me do this then then here's the final final.
Question what give me your top three favorite concerts you've
ever been to live?

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Shows live.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
SHOWS i Saw kings Of leon At Red, rocks which
is like The Red rocks is like that was like
The pinnacle AND i And I've i've become really good
friends with The folwells and and so to experience it
backstage with them and and watch them freaking crush it
that that. Place if you have not, been go it's.

(41:47):
Unbelievable and then, actually my my my very first, concert all,
right my very first concert equals my very FIRST. CD
i my very FIRST cd Was Simon GARFUNKLE I Love My.
Day like we would go ride with him to go get.

(42:07):
Parts he's a mechanic and listen to the oldies and
in the sixties and and uh and SO i just
love the oldies and so uh my oldest Brother dan
got A cd. Player Santa claus brought me a couple of.
CDs uh and and you Two Joshua tree And uh And,
Uh Simon Golf uncle And uh The boxer was one

(42:31):
of like the jam BUT i think it was their
greatest hits. Album and So Simon gouncle back on TOUR
i am a second, year no rookie year In Indian.
Afflix they're coming to In. Deflis there can canseco, fieldhouse.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Go around the locker.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Room hey, Guys, hey you want to? Go you want?

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Who? Who?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
What?

Speaker 4 (42:53):
What? Hey?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Hey Hey Payton, Simon, no my dad's not in. Town
archie would go with you, probably but, NO i have
a reputation to. Uphold And i'm, like, WHAT i it's game,
night it's it's It's, thursday it's you, know gott to.
KNOW i bought one. TICKET i, went let's, go and
AND i sat next to these sweet old ladies and we.

(43:16):
Sang they sang. Harmony they were. GREAT i was Definitely
paul and uh and AND i sang MY i sang every. Word.
Uh they were a little. Pitchy. Uh they could have,
helped you, know they could have you, know warmed up
a little bit. More but we freaking crushed. It AND
i still have my simargulf on The Old Friends TOUR t.
Shirt AND i walked out OF i, mean, yeah So

(43:40):
i'm not afraid to go to a concert by my,
Side I'M i, mean but it, WAS i, mean and
then you, know now With art with his with his,
vocal you know all that, stuff AND i mean talk about.
DRAMA i mean those, guys geez boys get it together
like you're, Amazing like don't we kind of need each?
Other like LIKE i, mean could you Imagine PEYTON i
didn't GET i, mean come, on it was kind of

(44:02):
Like Marvin. PEYTON i mean they would have their, like Hey,
peyton you need, him he needs. You can we all
just get? Along just throw that that that sweet deep
route that you, know that deep. Post all, right just
make sure you have that On. Sunday all, right you
guys get this figured. Out so you got one. More
you got one. More you Got kings Of Leona Simon.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Garre you said.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
THREE i would have to, say, WELL i, mean, Uh Garth. Brooks,
uh it's the venue is not you, know it's not.
Impressive but my man. Asked so we became friends over the.

(44:44):
Years i'm in the stands and he's playing In De,
mooinne just the the arena In De mooyne and uh
and he's, like, hey you guys have a pretty good
uh kid From iowa that's you, know represents your. State
but he wouldn't have a hair on his ass if
he didn't come up and sing this next song with.
Me and before he could, SAY i am jumping down

(45:06):
towards the stage And i'm finding a. WAY i get.
Up he gives me Freaking tricia's bedazzled extra the nose,
microphone AND i get up there and we sing friends
in low, places AND i am GETTING i mean. IT
i MEAN i could have gotten hit by a bus
leaving that arena AND i would have been, like, yep

(45:28):
let's go, run you, KNOW i mean it was that
was that was that was. Incredible that was. Incredible so
he's a stud and phenomenal entertainer and and he you,
KNOW i might have carried him TO.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I Feel that's what the newspaper. Said the next day
we read the.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Article they saw it, too AND i was, LIKE i
WAS I i THOUGHT i kind of felt, it but you,
KNOW i didn't have my EAR i didn't have my ear.
PIECE i couldn't.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Hear we have taken away too much of your.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Time this has been a, Plus, like, seriously seriously love
watching you and. THIS i think this is my ever
an interview. Ever i'm gonna put it. Up i've never said.
THAT i think this is number.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
One. Now that is a true. Statement that is a
true statement By bobby.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Right, Matt, Matt, Matt, Hey, matt.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
We have, This we've got this.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
CODE i would right, there, yeah around.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Truth, truth that's, right all, Right. Dallas good luck with the.
Seeds good luck with those seeds this.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Week, hey thank. You it's, uh it's gonna and you,
guys if ratings ever, dipped you, know give me.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
A call and Then i'll get.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Replaced, no, okay this Is.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Dallas have a great. Today there is the Great. Dallas dallas,
man all, right that was, awesome Does Dallas. Park what
a fantastic. INTERVIEW i thank you.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Guys if you're you, know let's Say spotify for, example
if you don't mind leaders of comment in this, Section
like anytime you guys communicate with, us the algorithm.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
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Speaker 3 (47:01):
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Speaker 2 (47:07):
Love to see you.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Share that will make us feel. Good Bobby, bonones It's Matt.
Castle That's, Kickoff, kevin That's Brandon. Ray we've had lots
to say, goodbye, everybody.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
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