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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I
am your host Movie Mike. Today I want to talk
about controversial scenes that were so bad they had to
be pulled from movies. It's actually inspired by this week's
movie review, Lelo and Stitch. Could you believe they pulled
a scene out of Lelo and Stitch? Which I've been
waiting for this movie for so long. I've been following
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all of the campaign, all the merch that's been dropped.
If you are a longtime listener to this podcast, you
know Lelo and Stitch is my favorite Disney movie of
all time.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Did they do it justice?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Or will I be sobbing here on the podcast because
they ruined my favorite movie? In the trailer Park, we'll
be talking about F one and why I think Brad
Pitt is never going to play a grandpa. Thank you
for being here, Thank you for being subscribed. Shout out
to the Monday Morning movie crew. He Now let's talk
movies from the Nastrolle podcast network and this is movie
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Mike's Movie Podcast. Some of these scenes are so bad.
I just say to myself, what were they thinking? How
did they think this was going to be perceived of
course they were gonna end up eating to cut this.
Sometimes I feel like filmmakers or some animators were just
trying to get one over on people. Other times I
think it was just bad timing when things happen in
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the real world that you had no idea that was
going to happen when this movie comes out two years later.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Just unfortunate timing.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But what inspired this entire topic is, did you know
there was a scene from Lelo and Stitch that had
to be taken out because they were worried that kids
were gonna.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Start doing it?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And this is a thing that I didn't really think
a whole lot about as a kid, But once you
see movies come out and kids trying to emulate what
they see on the big screen, you have a problem.
And there is a scene in Lelo and Stitch that
was taken out of the Disney Plus version where Leelo
is hiding from her sister and she goes into a dryer.
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And you watch that scene, you probably think nothing of it.
Leelo getting in a dryer trying to hide from her sister.
Her sister gets on top of the dryer and makes
it sound like she has left the room by kicking
the door with her foot, and then Lelo, thinking the
coast is clear, gets out of the dryer, but her
sister has left the trap she left down like this
little blanket thing or a big towel, and then immediately
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swoops up Lelo and traps her in there, and she's
now captured her. The reason they cut this scene is
because what we're kids gonna do? They were gonna see
Lelo getting into a dryer and thinking that is okay,
and you can't do that, you can't have that. There
were even instances where back in the day, whenever they're
making back to the future, the original concept for the
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time machine was not the DeLorean.
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It was a refrigerator.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But what would kids have done. They'd got into the refrigerator.
So same thing happened here, except back to the future.
It never made it to the film Lelo and Stitch.
This actually came out. This is the version I know.
I have rewatched it on Disney Plus. And what they've
replaced it with is Lelo gets into all almost this
little end table that when you look at the layout
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of the room, that it's a launder room really doesn't
make sense. It's almost like this little cupboard and she
hides behind a pizza box that's kind of in the
opening of the cupboard, so it was really just them
taking out the dryer, putting in this cupboard, and she
just peacefully hiding behind a pizza box. They didn't want
kids climbing into dryers causing real life injuries. Some people
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argue the other side, saying they're being a little bit
too sensitive and overprotective. But you got to think about
childhood safety, and you think about Disney not wanting to
get sued. So with some of these edits, there's this
line you have to walk between the artistic vision of
what the filmmaker wants, in this case, director Chris Sanders,
and what the studio wants to make sure that they
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don't get in trouble over a scene.
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And this wasn't the only thing they had.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
To change for Leelo and Stitch, but the other thing
they changed never made it to theaters and never made
it to home video. And the version we all know
there's a scene where a spaceship it's hijacked by some
characters and they're flying it over the ocean and it
ends up crashing. In the original version, a plane, a
commercial plane gets hijacked and then flies through a city
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and crashes into buildings. Now, Lilo and Stitch came out
in two thousand and two, and it was being made,
it was being developed prior to the attacks that went
down on September eleventh, So before this was the thing
that you just commonly see. Now you may say, maybe
that's a little bit too adult for a family Disney movie,
but that aside, it wasn't out of the norm for
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a movie, an action movie to have a scene like
this of somebody taking over a plane and crashing it
into something. Look at con Air, But in a post
nine to eleven world, you couldn't do that, especially right
after they ended up changing the commercial airplane to a
spaceship and instead of it being in downtown, they moved
the scene out to the Hawaiian mountains. So I think
that one was a great call. Next up, this one's
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along the same lines. Movie also came out in the
year two thousand and two.
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But in two thousand and one they put out.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
The first teaser trailer for Spider Man, the first one
with Toby McGuire, And this was the first thing I
remember seeing about this movie that had my jaw on
the floor because me being such a huge Spider Man fan,
I was like, this movie looks amazing. And in this
pro mo, you see this group of burglars robbing a
bank and they all go in with their guns. So
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they robbed the bank, then they get away in a helicopter.
Then Spider Man comes to save the day. They shoot
some webs, he catches their helicopter between the Twin Towers,
so you have this helicopter dangling in between Tower one
and between Tower two. And this was the big focal
point of Spider Man, the first time anybody had seen
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the character at this level, and the Twin Towers just.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Happened to be a really big part of that.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
In the poster that first came out for Spider Man,
you see Toby Maguire's and in the reflection of his
bug eyes you see the Twin Towers there.
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And they use this a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
To show that this movie was taking place in New
York City, because what is more iconic than the Twin
Towers in New York City pre two thousand and one.
But then the teaser trailer comes out and nine to
eleven happens, so they pulled the teaser. They pulled the posters,
and none of this footage was ever included in the
real movie, which I tried to find some info on
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why this was even created because Sam Raimi was working
on the movie.
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But it almost feels.
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Like they shot a mini movie just to give the
studios some test footage. So maybe that's all this really was.
We were never supposed to have a bank robbery scene
like this in the first Spider Man movie because it
really doesn't fit in anywhere. But it's just kind of
eerie to think that the Twin Towers were such a
big part of this movie's DNA in the beginning, in
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the marketing and the tragedy that happened soon after this
up next from nine teen seventy seven The Rescuers, And
before I talk about what happened with the Rescuers, I
want to address one of the biggest rumors that I
remember about Disney growing up. There's a scene about three
fourths away through the movie when you see Simba, Pumba
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and Timone in the first Lion King movie and they're
all laying on their backs. They're looking up at the stars.
Simba gets up and walks over to an edge of
a cliff because he's kind of being made fun of
by the two other guys. They don't really get him,
so he goes to the edge of the cliff. He
flops on the ground and then a cloud of dust
is just erupted. And the big rumor, the big myth,
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was that the letters sex gets spelled out in that dust.
And this was largely due to the fact that at
this time VHS's were now really popular. And this was
right before I probably five, six, maybe even ten years
before DVDs. But people were now pausing things because you
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can watch it at home, and before you could kind
of hide things in movies because you were watching it
in theaters. You weren't watching it again, so if you
missed something in a second, you aren't going to catch it.
But I looked all through the bowels of the Internet
and this was completely just a rumor. There was no
truth to it. Maybe now some screen grabs have been photoshopped.
It never spelled the words. Disney never admitted to it.
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It didn't really happen. There were other instances where Disney
was accused of hiding other adult things on VHS covers.
I think The Little Mermaid was one where there were
a couple with.
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The Little Mermaid.
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One was that Homeboy gets an erection while giving a
speech during the movie, and the other one was on
the VHS cover that if you look in the middle
of all the golden things, that you see something that
resembles something naughty. And those were always this myth that
went along with Disney that they were working things into
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their movies that were not appropriate for kids. But before
VHS and before DVDs, you could probably get away with
some of these because it's just a quick second. If
you don't see it, it's gone. But what happened with
The Rescuers in nineteen seventy seven was not a myth.
This one actually happened. They had to go back and
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fix it after it came out on VHS, so this
was actually seen in theaters. There is a scene in
The Rescuers that a very questionable background image appears where
you see the two characters, the rodent heroes, Bianca and Bernard.
They're flying through the city on a sardine box on
the back of their buddy Orville, which I loved Orville
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in The Rescuers and The Rescuers down Under, and what
do you see inside one of the buildings. It's an
image of a topless woman who can be seen through
one of the windows. It's not even an animated character.
It was one of the animators who took a nude
image of a woman and just like pasted it onto
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the background. Because it happened so quickly that you would
not see it if you did not pause it. I'm
quite surprised how anybody even discovered this back in the day,
because Disney was forced to re release the VHS with
the edit. So maybe it's just one of those instances,
like right now, I'll be watching something and I'll posit
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it to go grab a drink or something from the kitchen,
and it's always kind of funny when I pause it
on something where like somebody looks like they're sneezing. I'm like,
that's an unfortunate screen grab.
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I kind of think.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's what happened here, because why else would you posit
in the scene. You're probably just getting up to do something.
You hit pause, and you're like, wait a minute, it's
not a naked woman in this animated movie. So that
was a big controversy. Disney did say that it wasn't
one of the animators, but instead it was inserted in
post production. I don't know if that was true or
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they were just covering themselves, but it's just crazy to
me that this got through and they had to recall
three point four million copies of this video. You know,
not everybody, if anybody wants send back in their copy
of The Rescuers to get the new version without the
topless woman.
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This is now a relic.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Next up, since we're talking about Disney, I do love Disney,
but man, they have a checkered past. If you look
into the early Disney vault, there are some questionable movies
that they try to erase from our memories. But it's
something that I've learned as cinema is forever. And in
nineteen ninety three they put out an R rated movie
about college football starring Halle Berry, and it instantly found
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a place in cinematic infamy. Not really for the performances
of anybody, because I think otherwise this wouldn't be as
memorable of the movie, although I do hear a lot
of people say this is one of their favorite sports
movies of all time, but it is the program and
the craziest part about the program. In this controversial scene,
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is this was actually shown in theaters. The moment in
the movie where you have several players we're trying to
cope with the pressures of playing football at a major university,
and they're all dealing with this pressure in different ways.
Some of them are drinking, some of them are doing drugs.
Others are just studying and trying to keep their mind
focused on the game. But the scene that was cut
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from the movie shortly after its release was them getting
in the middle of a road and lying down in
between oncoming traffic. I understand the message they were trying
to get across. Here's the actual scene from the program.
It's still on YouTube. It's not a great high quality rip,
but here is that moment when one of the players
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tries to convince everybody else, Hey, come lay in the
middle of the road with me. Hoy, let's get out
of here.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Hey fo.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
They're talking about how good I amazur pressure, what's some
drinks across the line the past.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
You can't take the heat off the highway.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You can't take the heat get out of the highway.
So he is trying to prove to all of his
other teammates that I can do this, I can stay calm,
cool and collected and lay here in the middle of
the street reading I think it's a newspaper or a book,
and he's just chilling there as cars are zooming past him.
This scene actually came out in theaters. I was reading
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some of the YouTube comments and some people say they
went to the theater on opening night, this scene was there,
their friends saw it maybe the next night in a
different city, and it was gone. And the reason it
was removed was because of the death of a kid
named Michael Shingldecker who he along with the group of friends,
tried to imitate this and he died. And they did
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this because they saw the movie. Probably did it, I
think on opening night, and there were a lot of
other copycats who did this around the country. So you
had the one in Pennsylvania, the one in New Jersey.
And Disney owned Touchstone Pictures initially tried to defend themselves.
Here's the statement they put out. The scene in the
program clearly depicts this adolescent action as an irresponsible and
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dangerous stunt by a troubled and heavily intoxicated individual, and
in no way advocates or encourages this type of behavior.
I understand what they mean in that statement, but they
also made it look cool, and they made that scene
be the most memorable scene. Even me watching it now
on YouTube as I was doing this research, it's a
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really well shot scene. I wonder exactly how they did
it because you see the players all lining up one
after another on the road essentially on the little dotted line, and.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You see the cars getting really close to them.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So I have to assume they probably filmed it on
an empty road with just the players, and then filmed
in that same shot you take away the players and
just have the car zooming by them, and then impost
you mix the two shots together because otherwise you're like, man,
this is making me uncomfortable, even though I know they're
going to be okay. But what they were trying to
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show is like this is the test, Like, hey, you
want to bond with us, You want to show you
can handle the pressure. This is the most pressure. So
I think where Disney and Touchstone messed up was they made.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
The scene look too cool.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And if you make a scene look too cool, people
are gonna want to emulate it and somebody is gonna
get hurt. In this case, people did so long story short,
do not try this at home, kids. Speaking of not
trying things at home, there was a scene cut from Jackass,
the movie, which also came out in two thousand and two.
This is a big history lesson on the year two
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thousand and two, more importantly on what not to do.
But Johnny Knoxville said that they had to cut out
a scene where they got choked out by a stunt man,
a famous stunt guy by the.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Name of Jean LaBelle, who.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Is somebody who was a hero of Johnny Knoxville. He
was a fighter, a stuntman, a professional wrestler. He was
nicknamed Judo Jean. Also called the Godfather of grappling, He
is credited with popularizing grappling and professional ding circles, serving
as a precursor.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
To modern mixed martial arts. So, dude is legit.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And what I love about Jackass is they have the big,
elaborate stunts that they planned, that they spend more money on,
but then they always have these little one off skits
that is probably just them on a rainy day saying, man,
we can't film our big stunt today. Let's just grab
a camera and go do something random, like fight somebody
in a department store with boxing gloves, and I think
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sometimes that has given us some of the best moments
in Jackass. And what they did in Jackass the movie
that they ended up cutting was this stunt man, Jean LaBelle,
choking them out, and it was a great scene. They
all got choked out, and the way he does it,
I guess there's a specific way you can choke somebody out.
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You can cut off their oxygen, which is not good
the person will die, or you can just cut off
the blood circulating to I don't know exactly what part
of the bundy their brain, but LaBelle knows how to
cut off the blood circulation causing you to pass out,
and that is what he did to the Jackass guys.
Johnny Knoxville was the first one to be choked out
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Boom unconscious. He woke up and thought he was still
a child. Chris Pontius said he actually had to get
choked out twice because the first time they didn't film
it right, so he had to get choked out again,
and then they.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Just ended up not using the scene.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Man if I got choked out and woke up and
I didn't know what was going on, and I thought
I'd reverted back to my childhood.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That would be wild.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
So in essence, I guess cutting your blood off is
the smarter way to do it. But if kids saw
this scene and thought, oh, I want to choke out
my friend. Here's how he did it, not knowing that
this guy is actually highly trained, he and I say
he coulse, it'd probably be a kid because it's probably
something I would have done because I love jackass, although
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I never really tried to emulate.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
A whole lot. Probably the only thing I did.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I really wanted to race in shopping carts, but I
also didn't like getting in trouble, so I never did that.
I did go down a giant hill on a skateboard
on my stomach because I thought it was a jackass
type stunt that they would do, and I was wearing
a sweater. My sweater got caught in the wheel of
the skateboard and it just started like twirling around and
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then it spun my hand over and then proceeded to
drag it on the hot street in the Texas summer
and obliterated the skin on the top of my right hand.
Even to this day, I still have this scar where
I peeled off all the skin, trying to be like Jackass.
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So that's the only thing I ever tried to emulate.
But the reason they cut the scene is because dumb
kids like me were gonna see that and try to
choke out their friends and somebody would end up dying.
So maybe they learned from the program. We can't put
this scene in there, even though it looks cool. We'll
move forward to the next decade. Twenty thirteen, Gangster Squad
comes out, and there's a scene that was actually in
the trailer of this movie where you see these gangsters
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trying to assassinate the heroes of the movie, and they
do so in a crowded movie theater, and much like
what we were talking about earlier with Leelo and Stitch
and having somebody hijack a plan and crashing into some
buildings in a pre nine to eleven world, probably not
a crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Thing to include in a movie.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
In a pre twenty twelve world, what happened in Aurora,
Colorado might not have been as crazy of a thing
to put in a movie, But just the year before,
in twenty twelve, a gunman walked into a screening of
The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, Colorado. He opened fire
into the crowd, killing twelve people and injuring seventy, And
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this was such a horrific scene. It was one of
the worst tragedies involving guns in the twenty tens. First
of all, just awful for all the lives that were lost,
all the trauma that the survivors went through. On another level,
I think for me and maybe a lot of other
people who I can recognize, I'm lucky that I didn't
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have to go through this. I didn't lose people in
this tragedy. But I think we also feel things by
seeing things like this in the news, empathizing with people.
But ever since this happened in twenty twelve, I think
about this constantly as much as I go to the movies.
And it's not so much that I get scared every
time I go. It's more so when I see somebody
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get up out of the corner of my eye, or
I see somebody walking around that maybe doesn't look like
they know where they're going, or they walk in halfway
through the movie and I'm like, why are you just
walking in now? My head always goes to this incident.
So this is one of those cases where not only
did it affect everybody there who lost their lives, who
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lost the loved one, I think it also sent a
wave throughout the country and throughout the world of taking
a place that we all feel safe at. For me,
I feel the most safe in a movie theater. That
is my comfort zone, like me in a dark room
watching a movie. It allows me to escape the world
and go to places that I never would have otherwise.
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It's like my dreams in real life because I just
walked through a hallway and immediately I'm engulfed and immersed
in this different world. That is my safe place. But
when this happened in twenty twelve, it took that away
a little bit, and it made it feel just like, oh,
this isn't as safe as I wanted to be, as
I needed to be, And I suddenly started to feel
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very vulnerable at times and had to start thinking of
how would I get out of here? Do I want
to be in this theater right now? And anytime somebody
gets up, my head always goes there. So obviously Warner
Brothers knew that this scene wasn't going to fly post
twenty twelve. They ended up removing it and replaced it
with a sequence taking place in Chinatown. To date, this
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scene has not been released in any form, And for
me now, this is what I remember most about Gangster
Squad and how they had to cut this controversial scene.
And like I said, not all of these were awful
decisions from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Sometimes it's just a time and place.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And they had no way to know that something like
this was going to happen when they filmed the scene.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Just overall, just awful.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Got a few more left for you here The Santa
Claus in nineteen ninety four. Tim Allen in the movie
pretended to call a sex hot line. There is a
moment where he jokes around and he calls the number
one eight hundred Spank Me, And the filmmakers didn't know
this at the time, or later they claimed they didn't
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know this at the time, One eight hundred Spank Me
was a real sex hot line. So this scene made
it out into theaters, it made it onto the home release,
and two years after the release of the movie, the
hot line was still available, meaning that anybody who watched
The Santa Claus saw that number and ended up calling
it would actually get a service on the other side
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of it. The scene was eventually cut from the movie
to prevent any impressionable audience. Again me ninety four, while
I was probably three years old, I would be impressionable
and want to call that number just because I thought
it was funny.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And as a kid, I love prank calling people.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It doesn't matter whether there was a number, if I
could find it, I would grow through the phone book
if anybody gave out their number in any way. Sometimes
my school would send out directories, which I.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Don't know why they did this.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I don't think they do this anymore, but they would
have like all the families listed in their numbers, and
I would prank call people. I would be in third
grade pre calling people I didn't even know in fifth
grade just because I thought it was funny. And it
is always interesting to me whenever movies or TV shows
include numbers, and a lot of the times just big
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fake numbers that are so blatantly fake, like five five
five six two two two, which I hope that's not
real number, but you gotta be careful about things like this.
So yeah, that was pretty dumb and that could have
been easily prevented. Also in nineteen ninety nine, Toy Story
two a scene that was later cut from the movie
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is there's a moment where Stinky Pete, who is the
old prospector, he is talking to two barbies and he
is being kind of creepy, and he offers the two
barbies a role in Toy Story three, with the implication
that they might give him something in return. So you
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think old creepy guy in a position of power talking
to too young in this case dolls, but they represent
women saying, you know you want to roll in this
next movie. If you do a little something for me,
I can do a little something for you. And the
reason this was cut was in twoenty and nineteen, the
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Me Too movement came around and suddenly things like this
weren't funny anymore. Not only were they not funny anymore,
we should have never been joking about things like this,
And the fact that it made it into a Pixar
movie joking about getting girls a role in an upcoming
movie is pretty awful. The fact that things in Hollywood
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have happened that are just horrible when it comes to
casting people and much like Stinky Pete in the situation
being in positions of power to offer roles to young
women with the hopes of getting something else out of them.
That that is so prevalent that a Pixar movie would
include it as a joke, saying like, oh, here's this all, Oh,
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I know what he is doing. Oh oh that is awful.
That is really bad and shows you just how just
dark Hollywood can be. So I'm glad that something like
this would never be included, never even be thought about anymore.
But back in nineteen ninety nine, this went through all
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the layers. The other thing that is just astonishing about
this is animation takes forever. There are so many levels
that a scene has to go through to make it
to a movie, and Toy Story just have these infamous
scenes at the end of the movies where it's like,
here are these bloopers. Even those have to be edited
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and drawn, and there's so many levels where you don't
have leftover b roll footage from an animated movie because
you have to work on every single scene.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It takes a lot to cut something out of a movie.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
So all that work that goes into it, all of
these layers that it has to go through to make
it into the movie, and this joke made it into
Toy Story.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Too. Crazy that doesn't make me feel good. Let's move on.
I have two final movies for you here.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
In twenty nineteen, a movie we can all laugh at
was The Cat's Live Action Movie, Awful all.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
The way around.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Probably one of the biggest box office bombs of all time,
definitely the worst movie of the twenty tens.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You had so many famous.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
People in this movie too, like Taylor Swift, who thought
this was a good idea. But what happened here and
what was cut and changed from this movie is something
I've never really heard of. They actually went back in
and tried to fix some of the CGI because the
controversy this movie created was that it was so bad
people were walking out of the theater. It was getting
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dragged on rotten Tomatoes. They hated this movie so much
audiences and critics alike that they had to change scenes
to make them look better, because a lot of it
came from the CGI where there were moments where you
had these cat characters suddenly have human hands because they
forgot to edit in and change the human hands into
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cat hands.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Cat pause.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
There were other moments where things were left on the
characters that shouldn't have been left on the characters, where
it just made them look like they did know what
they were doing when putting out cats. So they actually
sent out a memo to theaters saying, Hey, we're gonna
provide you guys with a new and updated version of
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this movie that you can start showing. So this one
happened while this movie was still in theaters. They went back,
made changes and it didn't help. Didn't do this movie
any good. But what an unusual turn. And finally, let's
talk about the Mean Girls musical remake that came out
last year. It was a big deal for them to
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get Lindsay Lohan to come back. A lot of headlines
came out that was part of her return to the Spotlight.
But in this version of the movie, Megan the Stallion
who plays herself, makes a joke about Lindsay Lohan. She's
like filming this video like on TikTok or Instagram, and
she says, we are going back, red Y two k
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Firecrotch is back. And this is in regard to Lindsay
Lohan's character. Why would you ask somebody to come back
and make a big cameo in one of the movies
that she's most known for, only to make a firecrotch joke,
which is also such a dated joke that is so
nineties or early two thousands. When the original Mean Girls
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came out, knowing that people had used this term against
Lindsay Lohan and tabloids and just in the media to
degrade her, why would you ask her back to this
movie and then have this joke. So Lindsay Lohan took
public issue with this joke, saying she was very hurt
and disappointed by this reference in the film. So they
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actually went back in once the movie was released digitally
and on streaming, they took that joke oheat of the movie.
So justice for Lindsay Lohan. I'm glad this movie didn't
do as well as they wanted it to. It should
have never made fun of her. I'll come back and
I'll give my spoiler free review of Leelo and Stitch.
Did I love it or did I hate it?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Let's get into it now.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
A spoiler free movie review of Leelo and Stitch, the
live action movie. I've been waiting for now for twenty
three years. Leelo and Stitch is my favorite Disney movie
of all time. I went all out. I reverted back
to my childhood at the end of this review. If
you're watching on YouTube or if you're only listening on
the podcast, you gotta go watch it because I got
all of the exclusive merch to regal. So I'm gonna
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do a review of my popcorn bucket, which I got,
the one that looks like Stitch. It is my favorite
thing ever now and there's actually a big story behind
it of how Kelsey tracked it down for me and
then we went to go see it in theaters and
I just couldn't help myself to get all this merch
because it's all so cute and adorable. So stick around
to the end of this review to watch it on YouTube,
and if you're only listening to it on the podcast,
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go to YouTube dot com slash Mike Dstro or follow
me on TikTok because I'm gonna post some stuff over
there as well. Well, let's get into this review. As
I said, aside this popcorn Bucket for now, which I
can't really spoil it, I'm only going to talk about
some of the differences that changed it a little bit.
But overall, my feeling going into it is I didn't
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want them to ruin my favorite Disney movie, and I've
been critical of live action Disney movies in the past.
I've called some of them cash grabs, And then whenever
you see your favorite one get made, you see your
feelings start to change and you really see how it's
a lot different when it's your favorite movie. What I
realized was they had to change a lot of things
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in adapting it to live action, because when you look
at the story of Lelo and Stitch, it's actually quite sad.
Leelo loses her parents and her sister, Nannie is now
her mom, and their relationship has changed because they were
really good at being sisters, but now Nannie is having
to be the mom and the dad taking care of her,
trying to keep a job, trying to keep a roof
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over her head, and Lilo is going through a lot
by losing her parents. She also doesn't have friends, and
that's all you want. She just wants to have a friend.
She wishes upon a star, which is actually Stitch's spaceship
crash landing into Hawaii, and then she meets Stitch, and
then Stitch becomes this new force in her life who
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was designed to destroy, was designed to tear everything up
that he came in contact with. By Jumba, who was
played in this movie by Zach Galifanakis. So overall they
change things because I realized that story is actually quite sad.
When you start seeing this with real life people and
you see Leela as not an animated character, you see
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how it really kind of talks about people who lose
their parents are being threatened by the state to be
taken away from each other. You see it as somebody
who is struggling to keep a job and just pay
the bills. At the start of the movie, the social
worker comes out and sees all the unpaid bills on
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their table, and you see also how the kids are
bullying Lelo, and you're like, man, the story is quite
sad here. When whenever you see it in animated form,
even though at its core it's still a sad story,
it doesn't really hit the same way because it's a
little bit more playful. It's a little bit more fun
when the girls are being mean to her. It doesn't
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cut like a knife quite like it does in a
live action movie. But when you hear the girls that
Lelo goes to school as being so rude to her,
you're like, man, she's really going through a lot right now.
So overall, I've found a live action version to be
a lot more emotional than the animated version, and what
it sacrificed a little bit with some of the comedy,
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because I think a lot of the comedy came from
things you can only do in animation that don't translate
the same way. One of the things that was very
different here is you realize how much violence was used
in the original one one at the very beginning of
the movie. Whenever she gets into the altercation with the
kids it's school.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
There is a fight.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Also, the way that her and her sister communicated and
chasing her around the house, you start to think, like, man,
she really couldn't do that in this movie. That would
straight to be child abuse and she'd be taken out.
Stitch himself is also more destructive and gets into a
lot of fights and firefights. So they kind of had
to pull away from some of the action and they
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sacrificed a little bit of the big moments. But what
they really emphasized more was that connection between Nannie and
Lelo and their relationship. That is really what developed more.
I think the hardest part was connecting them all back
to Stitch. It was almost like Stitch was on his
own journey in this movie, and it wasn't really until
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that third act where him and Lilo really connected.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I think that was the hardest part overall.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
That this live action adaptation had, was it is hard
to take a child actor and have it connect with
something that's not there. And while they do interact, while
they do love each each other, and why they do
become friends like they do in the original. I think
the obstacle was meshing those two characters together in the
live action version. And if anybody has a problem with
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this movie, that's probably gonna be the biggest thing because
it is called Leelo and Stitch. But I just found
that that bond together wasn't as strong as it was
in the original movie, and I think some of the
things had to change, but everything I was looking for
was still there. There were other elements of stitches emotional
development that weren't quite there. So in this he was
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a lot more cute and cuddly, and I think Disney
was really trying to emphasize that, mainly to sell more
merch to people like me and the kids, because he
spoke a lot more in this movie. It did emphasize
a lot more of his high jinks, and I think
overall that was kind of the driving force of Okay,
we can't do some of the action that we did
in the original because it doesn't quite translate, So let's
make him do more funny things. And I think that
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really worked. Overall. The reason this movie didn't feel like
a cash grab to me is because I thought overall
the special effects were pretty good because Stitch looked great,
He looked adorable, he looked cuddly. I thought it was
gonna be hard to make him look like an actual
alien dog, because in the original, you think, man, how
could anybody look at Stitch and think that he is
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a dog not an alien? I always thought that was
the hardest thing to believe in the original, But here,
the way they made him look aside from the fact
that he's blue, he does look like a dog and
act like a dog. So it was really important to
make him look good, make him look like you fit
in this world, and I think that was the most
important part that they got right, and they made him
look good. So the fact that his character design was
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down great, even though he liked a little bit of
character development, which is probably asking a lot for a
Disney live action movie geared towards kids. Overall, I was
really happy with it, and at the end of it,
it just made me feel joy. It made me happy,
and I think it's because it made me sad at
a lot of times. And the actress Maya, who is
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seven years old and played Lilo, did a fantas plastic
job because I think that was the hardest thing of
not only bringing Stitch to life, but having someone be
the real life version of Lelo, and she completely crushed it.
And Disney rarely takes risks like this anymore because there
are a lot of sequences. Whereas just Lelo and Stitch
on screen, you have a child actor and a CGI
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character that is tough to do. And overall, where this
movie did not fumble the bag was the emotional scene
that we all know and love, the one I have
done numerous times on this podcast, which for some reason
you haven't seen Lelo and Stitch. You haven't heard me
talk about this scene posted on Dick dok or heard
my interview with Chris Sanders, who is the creator and
voice of Stitch. I've talked about this scene a lot,
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so mild spoiler alert here, even though the original is
twenty years old and it is a remake. I feel
like we're all okay with this spoiler, but if for
some reason you haven't, just skip ahead like thirty seconds
right now. But there's a moment when Stitch is going
to be taken away and he talks about finding his family.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
That is my.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Favorite part of the entire movie. It is the most
emotional part in the original and it was still the
most emotional part here. And what I noticed by listening
to it and watching it, I think they took the
audio from the original movie and used it again here
because it had the same inflection. Everything about it was
the same. I have to imagine Chris Sanders was like,
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I don't know if I could act it out any
better than that. Can we just use that original voice
recording and place it into this scene?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
And it worked perfectly.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I was on the verge of tears in that moment,
and I was worried for a little bit that they
were going to cut it out of the movie, not
include it, because there was a lot of things that
felt like they had to fit into this movie because
the original is an hour and twenty minutes and with
them adding more to the story of Nannie and Lee Lo.
This one clocked in right under an hour and forty minutes, but.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
It was there. They nailed it.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
The thing I did notice is some of the kids
in the theater, which I think Kelsey and I were
the only adults there without children, they started to get
restless around.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
The hour in ten Mark.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
So I am finding that younger kids do have shorter
attention spans, and it is kind of hard to make
a movie like this geared towards kids where there is
a lot of emotional development that's not just a quick
coco melon episode. So a little bit I fear for
what films are going to be like in the future.
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And that's not just with kids. I think all of
our attention spans are getting shorter and shorter. But that
was the only thing I noticed from the audience reaction
throughout the movie. Is about an hour and ten minutes,
people were getting up to go pee. They were like,
all right, let's wrap this thing up. We got to
get these kids home. But overall, there was very little
that I did not enjoy about this, and I was
surprised because I haven't liked a lot of the Disney
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Live action movies, but this one was hard to mess
up because the story was still there. Stitch looked phenomenal,
Leela was great, Nannie was great, David was great. I'm
not sure Zach Galafanakas gave it his all in this role,
but but aside from that, it was all there for me.
So when it comes to rating this, nothing is going
to touch the original. The original movie will always be
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a five out of five. But again, I'm gonna have
a huge bias here. But for Leelo and Stitch twenty
twenty five, I gave it four point five out of
five pineapples. So if you're only listening on the podcast,
the next part is only gonna be on YouTube, so
you have to go to my YouTube channel to go
see me review all the merch I got from Leelo
and Stitch at Regal. Go to YouTube dot com slash
Mike Distro. It's time to head down to movie Mike
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trailer Paul grand Grandpa.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
That's a behind the scenes of me screwing up there.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
I was gonna say Grandpa, or maybe I was thinking
Grand Charismo, because I better talk about Brad Pitt's new
racing movie.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
But what I was wanting to say is Brad Pitt.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Is never gonna play at Grandpa because he looks too good.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
He's sixty one years old.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
He is in grandpa age, but by the looks of
him in this trailer, he's not there, and I don't
think he's gonna be there in another ten years. I
feel like him is an actor. He could take those roles.
Maybe they've been pitched to him, but I don't think
Brad Pitt is ever going to play at Grandpa because
he looks too dang good at sixty one years old.
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In the trailer four at one, there's even a comment
of the racer he's going to train.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
His mom comes to visit.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I think both of his parents come to visit and
they see a picture of Brad Pitt and they're like, man, he's.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Not that old. He's a really good looking man.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
That leads me to believe that we're never gonna get
to see Brad Pitt in the way that we're starting
to see Tom Hanks right now, who I feel like
it hasn't been until maybe the last five years that
Tom Hanks has started to take like an older grandpa
role where he lets the Grays come through. Tom Hanks
is sixty one years old. He is only seven years
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older than Brad Pitt, but they look so different, just
a seven year difference.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
And the roles you.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Take, the wardrobe you decide to put yourself in, how
your hair error is colored, can vastly change how the
audience perceives you.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
So I just don't see it. For Brad Pett sixty one,
he's still rocking it.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
If he gets to Tom Hanks age at sixty eight
and still doesn't want to take these roles, I think
he could still pull it off. And if I was
as good looking as him, I would hold on to
that for the rest of my life. I wouldn't let
anybody call me grandpa. I would not take those roles.
I'd say, you take that sweater and shove it right
up your wardrobe hole. I don't know where you're gonna
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put that thing. But let's talk about F one. I
like me a good racing drama. In this movie, A
Brad Pitt plays a guy named Sonny Hayes, who was
a former Formula one driver who had a career ending
accident in the nineteen nineties. He is brought back into
the sport by a guy named Rubin Servantis, who was
a team owner played by Harvier Bardem, who you might
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remember from No Country for Old Men. He played Anton
Sugar had the wildest haircut in cinema, and he hated
that haircut, by the way, because he said, Man, no
woman is going to want to get with me after they.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
See me in this movie.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
But his character is in a position where he wants
to go back to doing F one. He's currently doing
NASCAR at the beginning of the trailer, he just won Daytona,
but now he wants to go back to What I
learned is the more difficult of the two. Not discrediting NASCAR,
that is a legit sport. What I found in my
research of this, and you can correct me if I'm wrong.
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The reason F one is seen as being more difficult
is because in NASCAR, you're just turning the exact same
way throughout the entire race. Even though I believe in
NASCAR you race much faster, but in F one sometimes
you're racing in actual cities, on courses where the turns
are all over the place. You have more intricate courses,
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the cars have more buttons and controls, and overall take
a little bit more to operate, so even though you're
not driving as fast as you are in NASCAR, all
the other logistics are ramped up. But the movie is
about Brad Pitt returning to the sport, mentoring a young
racer who hates his guts. So before I get into
more about F one, here's just a little bit of
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the trailer. Formula one is a team sport. It always was.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Listen, let's get this straight.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
We all lose our jobs if you can't put off
a mirror coad. No pressure on.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
The only question here is why does Sonny who's come
back to F one? I think it's really wonderful to
apex and given second chances to the elderly, I take
it right, you're.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Just right on quicker than you.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
The tension between teammates.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
What really sticks out to me about this trailer and
the first time I actually saw it in theaters, not
the movie, but the trailer, is their use of sound
and sometimes the absence of sound in the trailer that
makes everything feel more cinematic, where sometimes you're just hearing
the roar of the car, you're hearing the breathing, and
then it just goes to silence, and that is so powerful.
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In a theater where you're seeing a really beautiful shot,
usually in a racing movie, it's a crash and they
always go to silence when a crash happens because it
makes it so much more impactful to see a car
flipping but you hear nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
It is a really eerie image.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
So I really love the way they use sound to
build that up. In one of the first teaser trailers,
all they did was use a queen song and it
was just so loud and the sounds of the cars
were just roaring over it that it matched together perfectly.
This movie was also made in collaboration with Formula One,
using real team drivers, so it definitely adds that authenticity
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to it. Because when you're doing a movie based on
a sport where you're good to notice if things aren't
done just right, it is important to have those people
overlooking it. And that really makes me buy into the movie.
Because I don't really know a whole lot about F one.
I did look up some differences, Like I was mentioning earlier,
most F one races are nine minutes, so it's a
lot quicker. One of my favorite race movies is Ford v. Ferrari,
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and those races and that take forever. So I think
there's some more instant gratification here with there being a
ninety minute race versus a really long race. I think
when watching it in movie form, you get more of that. Okay,
I feel the tension, I feel what this is important,
and it's gonna make everything feel like there's a lot
more on the line. And the F one cars can
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reach speeds over two hundred and thirty miles per hour
on average. The drivers are going about one hundred and
twenty miles per hour, which I didn't think that was
as fast as I thought they would be because I
see these cars flying. But I've also never gone that
fast in a car. I think the fastest I've gone
is probably ninety. And that was one of those situations
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where in Texas, which is where I'm from, they have
roads that go up to eighty miles an hour, and
living now in Tennessee, we barely go fifty five. But
in Texas we like driving fast, and sometimes you get
it's so comfortable going eighty You're like, what's eighty five?
And I remember just one time being on I think
a toll road that was like eighty miles an hour.
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Eighty five, and then I looked down. I'm like, oh crap,
I'm going ninety. But it didn't feel like I was
going that fast. But one hundred and twenty is probably
a lot when you're having somebody in front of you,
behind you, and you're trying to navigate a pretty complex course.
I did say they can reach speeds over two hundred
and thirty miles an hour. That is what I'm talking about.
I also like Brad Pitt's characters tattoos. It very much
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reminded me of Ryan Gosling in the Place Beyond the
Pines where his tattoos look sick, even though I would
never put those on my body because they're very random.
And I think that has become more of a trend
lately of people getting tattoos that don't really match up.
And I am a fan of the look. I don't
know how it's going to age, which you could tell
me with my tattoo. It's like your tattoos are going
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tot h poorly, and I'm all about getting tattoos that
just look cool. I think maybe in like the nineties,
early two thousands, big thing with you got to get
something that means a lot to you. I just want
something that makes me look a little bit cooler. But
that trend is interesting where it almost feels like people
are getting things that they just would otherwise doodle on
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their paper in like math class, and they're getting it
on their skin. It looks cool right now, But I
just wonder how that is gonna age. But again, people
are probably saying that about my dad doos right now,
But that is kind of what Brad Pitt's character has,
and I guess he is sixty one in this, so hey,
maybe it's gonna age just fine. This movie is also
directed by Joseph Kazinski, who did Top Gun Maverick, and
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that makes me feel that the action is gonna be
at the level of Top Gun Maverick. And I'm already
seeing in this trailer because what I loved about Top
Gun Maverick is it really puts you in the seat
of the person flying the plane. You were right there
with them. They put the camera on the wing of
the plane, so not only do you see it from
their perspective, you see it from a perspective that nobody
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else could see.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
The action was just so great.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
And dialed in that it made that movie feel like
an experience, like something you needed to experience on the
big screen. And that is also the vibes I'm getting
from F one. So I'm not always the biggest fan
of race movies because the hard thing about them is
they kind of always have to end the same way.
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If your person doesn't win, it feels like you get
ripped off as the viewer. But if you know they're
gonna win, it's like, oh, man, I already know what's
gonna happen. Of course he's gonna come through with a win.
Of Course him and his teammate are going to get
over their beef and they're gonna be good by the end,
and they're gonna be having that trophy held over their
heads by the end of this movie. And of course
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somebody is gonna crash and you're gonna fear for their life.
That always happens no matter what the racing movie is.
Those are just the elements of racing. Hero has to win,
and there's gonna be a moment where they're not gonna
win because they just went through an injury. I don't
know if they're gonna make this race happen, and then.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Boom, they end up doing it.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
So the formula one feels a little bit predictable. But
I think in the case of this movie, if you
have somebody like Brad Pitt, also Harvey Erbardam, who I
really enjoy, a great director, I think is gonna be
an experience. It's also my birthday week movie. It comes
out on June twenty seventh, and I always have a
special place in my heart for the movies that come
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out around my birthday, so I will be checking this
one out. Where will it rank on my favorite racing
movies of all time? I think my favorite is Ford
me Ferrari. I just loved me some Christian Bale. I
thought that story was really interesting and overall had the
best acting of any racing movie I've ever seen. In
my opinion, Talladega Knights is also up there because I
love me some comedy. I love me some Ricky Bobby
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Grand Tarismo was pretty good. That's the last one I
saw in theaters. I wouldn't put it in my favorites,
but in recent history, that is the last one I
remember going to see in theaters. And you know what
I would like to put on my list. I know
they're gonna make more super Mario Brothers movies. But they
need to just make an all out Mario Kart movie.
Take the formula of a racing drama and apply that
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to Mario Kart. I know they spoofed that one time
on SNL and I wanted to see that with Pedro
Pascal in that Skit was super Mario driving a car.
Oh man, that would be so good. So instead of
doing another animated movie, let's do a live action Mario
Kart movie. I'll give you my money right now. But again,
F one is coming out in theaters on June twenty seventh.
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Head that for was this week's edition of Movie by
Framer Bar and Dad is gonna do it for another
episode here of the podcast. But before I go, I
got to give my listener shout out of the week.
How do you go a listener shout out of the week.
All you have to do is comment on social media TikTok, Instagram,
You can send me an email movie Mike d at
gmail dot com. If you ever forget any of that,
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it is always in the episode description notes of this podcast.
But this week I'm going over to my YouTube channel,
which is YouTube dot com, slash Mike Distro and man
I was getting hit pretty hard on my Final Destination
Bloodlines review, which I just gave my honest opinion, and
I was very upfront saying that overall, this isn't one
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of my favorite horror franchises. But boy did I learn
that Final Destination has some hard core fans who did
not like my opinion, and I decided to go over
there and well, the YouTube comments are always I sometimes
shield my eyes because they're usually the most rude about
my physical appearance, unlike any other platform. But this week's
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Listener shout out goes to Sark on YouTube, who said
Final Destination five not being memorable to you is wild.
It has some of the best and most well known
shot kills in the entire series, the gymnastics scene and
honestly the premonition being standouts. Not even commenting about the
new movie, just the.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
FD five slander.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
So Sark, I have to imagine you did not agree
with my entire review on Bloodlines, but the fact that
my comment about FD five rattled you so much. I
even mentioned that gymnastics scene, how that was one of
those moments from that movie that lingered with me that
made me never want to do gymnastics. But I think
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overall it is still pretty forgettable, so you don't have to.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Agree with me.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
That's why I go read the comments to see what
you guys feel about these movies and how you differ
from me. I think that is the great thing about
having a movie podcast, is opening up that discussion and
getting different perspectives from different people or fans of franchises
that I just.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Don't always love.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
So always feel free to tell me when you think
I'm wrong, when you think I'm being an idiot, just
leave my physical appearance out of it.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Please, Thank you, Sark.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Thank you right now for listening wherever you are, and
until next time, go out and watch good movies and
I will talk to you later.