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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, guys, welcome to the Sunday Sampler. Coming up in
a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Caroline Hobby talks with Callie Hardy, who is the wife
of Party, and talks about how he slid into.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Her DMS fast forward. They're married now.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Obviously, sore losers amy a lot of clips here this
week on the Bobby Cast, I sat down with one
of my really good friends, Ben Rector. He shares why
he doesn't think he'll ever win a Grammy although he's
really good. How he defines success, you know, he talks
about getting too golf with his hero, which is super cool.
So Ben Rector, that's what we're gonna start with here
on the Bobby Cast. Thanks for hanging out on the
(00:42):
Sunday Sampler.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
How you been.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I feel like it's nice to be done with the tour,
but I'm also going through a little bit of the
first three days. You're like, this is incredible, and then
you're like, oh my gosh, what am I doing?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
We have other or I mean, you're not retired from
music all the way right, Like this is that you're done?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
No, I'm not, but I honestly I feel like I
I mean, this is probably a conversation for real life.
I feel like I'm always trying to figure out what
I wanted to look like, and this is I have
the symphony shows after this, but not you know, it's
not like in my next huge tour.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
What do you mean look like like the perception of
the artist? Benrecked heor I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Sorry, I'm fixing this, Mike Standon plus should be doing that? No,
what I how I define success? What I want my
wife to look like? Which is too big of a question.
Hillary at this point is so patient but always like
rolls ride. She's just like, you do whatever you want
to do.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Did you know I didn't know this? You may have
known this. Did you know sometimes our wives escape to
talk about us.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Did you know that?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I mean a little bit. I don't know the extent
you know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I only heard about it, like the other day.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Hillary's probably just like been so great, That's what she says, right.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I think when they comparis they compare how great we are?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Who's better?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Who could say I didn't? I I literally didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I know that my wife adores your wife way more
than I adore you, So that their friendship isn't natural.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But no, it's really pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
They had been And my wife doesn't tell me anything
because I'm sure whatever they say they say for each other.
But I think there's probably some neuro tendencies that we
both have that they can talk about and the other
person at least somewhat relates.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
No, I think that's right. I mean, Hary tells me everything,
but I don't know what good. She doesn't good she's mentioned,
she's mentioned that they've connected on that and it's been good.
I think it is good. You know, we're I feel
like we're both a little bit odd, you know people.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, by a odd, you mean extremely good looking.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It's just hot.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, people are always telling me that. Man, I would
say it's a mixture. I'm gonna speak for me and
possibly you. I would say it's a mixture of for
me not understanding really where balance ever is, and then
the line of extremely secure and wildly insecure and not
knowing where that ever is.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Definitely, I think that's exactly right. I think also the
spice of like it being a public job is sometimes lonely,
and probably maybe I don't mean to be like it's
unique like special, but maybe more unique than a guy
who's like, I'm a lawyer and I work too much.
Like there's other stuff kind of like tangled up in it.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Maybe that like a solo identity, meaning you're the only
ben rector.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I don't I don't know what I meant by that.
I think there's weird stuff that comes along with it.
There's like weird side dishes that maybe don't happen with
other meals.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I would agree.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, I would say in the same way that my
friends that are professional athletes that play solo sports are
way nuttier than my friends who play on teas.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Yeah, very fair.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
One of my dearest friends, Andy Rotick, is a tennis player,
the greatest guys, but out of a skull, right, because
everything's on him.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, And the kind of person that self selects into
that and then continues to self select into that is
pretty specific.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He chose and continue to choose to grind away. So
everything's good and bad, it's all on him, right. It's
different than a buddy that plays in the NFL and
has it one of eleven.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, you know that's back there.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, when you say you're coming off tour and you're
figuring it out, so what is it? I still don't
know what you meant, like how it's presented.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I'd say to use a workout analogy. It feels like
when you're doing a tour or making a record or whatever,
you have like a trainer that's like, this is exactly
what you do. You don't have to think about it,
and it's challenging, but there's not a lot of brain
power expended on like what am I doing actually, or
like creatively, what am I doing? And then when you're
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done with that, because when I'm on tour, I'm always like, man,
I'm ready to take a break because it is it's
it is a grueling thing, but there's a part of
you you know that when you're done with that, it's
sort of like, Okay, now what do you want to do?
And you have to make it all up. And I think,
as you were saying a little earlier, like I'm I
feel like I'm always like trying to find balance and
my brain doesn't help me do that very well, because
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like anytime I'm like I'm going to find balance in
this way, it's like you're being lazy, you're being whatever.
And I think at this point, I'm like, oh, I'm not,
you know, twenty one anymore, and I want to see
my kids and having some semblance of a normal life,
So like, what do I want to look what I
want that to look like? But that's a big it's
like a big math problem. I don't know how to
like really try to solve it.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You felt yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Modifying goals because you're not twenty one anymore.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yes, And I'm a bad person to ask about this
because I feel like I have such a complicated relationship
with things like like a goal in like a my
job since because I don't know really what's possible as
far as like, as much as I want to be
like I'm going to win a Grammy four Album of
the Year, my real take is like, I don't know
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if that's really a possibility for me. I don't think
that that's like a thing that is going to happen.
And I can feel the Instagram like hustle people be
like not with an attitude like that it's not. So
there's that, and then there's also the part of it
that's like, as things have gone better and better, I
haven't necessarily become happier and happier, and so I'm like, oh,
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I want to like round this out with some more balance,
but I don't know how to like actually approach that.
It's very difficult, and I think other I envy people
who don't have a complicated relationship with it, the people
that are just like I want to drive the sickest
car in the world. So people look at me and
they're like, what a sick car that guy drives, And
I'm like, well, I wouldn't want to drive that car
because I wouldn't want people to think, well, you know,
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it's just a complex. I don't know, and I just
probably think about everything a little too much. But that
is a challenge for me. I don't know what is
reasonable to aim for goal wise, and uh, I don't
actually know what I want goal wise, as clear as
I can say it. I want to do really good
work and be proud of it. That's like the central theme.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Actually, if they're on goalposts, how do you know where
to kick it?
Speaker 8 (07:12):
Though?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's the deal and this, I mean, that's this is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
We're talking about this right now because I feel like
I'm literally trying to figure that out. And on every
project we were watching the Last Dance. Finally, the basketball
documentary from from COVID. Yes, oh well, there's a called
Love Is Blind.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You should check out.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, we finished the King.
Speaker 9 (07:32):
Yeah we're gonna do it live. Oh the one, two, three,
Sore Losers.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most
about sports, so I'll give you the sports facts, my
sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a sports genius.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Y'all.
Speaker 9 (07:50):
It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
I live on the North side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a
lot of acreage, no animals, of crops. Hopefully soon corn pumpkins, rye,
I believe, maybe a little fescue. Oh to be determined.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Over to you, coach, And here's a clip from this
week's episode of The Sore Losers. You had a kid
that beat his dad with a baseball bat.
Speaker 9 (08:18):
Yeah, I think that was the case.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
How was his swing.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Not funny, Coach? That happened thirty five years was.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
The good launch angle?
Speaker 9 (08:26):
I don't know. I think it was a he had
a loft or something and he said his dad climb
was drunk. Climbed up there, tried to The kid was
stronger than dad was drunk. Dad. The kid was in
seventh or eighth grade.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You don't, you're not. You got to give details. I
don't know. He could have been in high school. Kids drink
in high school.
Speaker 9 (08:39):
Okay, so batter's boxes. Kid's dad's brother's son was in Houston.
Speaker 10 (08:43):
OK.
Speaker 9 (08:43):
Sorry, my details weren't good. The kid had a baseball
bat try in the second loft of their house and
his dad was coming at him and he hit him
with it, and the kid went. The dad went to jail,
and in the process they lost a kid. So and
my mom met him at church and said, well, instead
of him going into the foster system him, we'll just
take him. And I guess it was allowed by law.
I mean, there's no way he just came to our house.
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But he lived with us for a year.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I think, really, and then what happened to him? Oh,
you can look him up.
Speaker 9 (09:10):
He has got a rap sheet, and I guess my
mom sent him money. My sister goes, yeah, he hit
her up on Facebook and said he needed five hundred dollars,
and my mom's like the kindest woman ever and gave
him five hundred dollars. I'm like, mom, where do you
think that one? Hold on, where do you think that
money went? So he'll spell it to you. So M
E T H that's where the money went, and hook
(09:31):
him up online. Yeah, I mean he's just got a
rap sheet. So he after the baseball swing, he never stopped.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
It sounds like, so you're telling me he came into
your house and you guys weren't able to turn his
life around.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
You weren't one of you weren't. Oh no, we turned
his life around.
Speaker 9 (09:43):
My parents made him go to church four times a week,
he had to study. He one time, my mom caught
him out drinking. Got I mean she was about to
kill the kid, didn't he not even her son?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I mean the way Wait, so your mom caught him
out drinking. So when I asked who was drunk, you
were like, oh, my god, of course it was the dad.
And you just proved my point.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
No good point. I would I was a little overreactive. Sorry,
but I mean my dad's six six, So he'd listened
to my dad, and my dad would have beat the
crap out of him. But I mean, so he'd lived
with us, though, did he go to school with you. Yeah,
we all went to the same school together. But he
like made fun of us, like thought I was a loser,
Like like, dude, I'm like, I was like one of
the coolest kids in school. And he comes in and
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he's like, hey, you guys, you guys know Ray, Like
how you guys think he's all cool?
Speaker 6 (10:25):
You should see him at his house.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
He's a worry war and he does weird stuff. And
I'm like, bro, why would you out me like that
to all my friends? And then they all look at
me weird and I was like not popular anymore. Then
the kid that we took the shirt off our back
for started making fun of me at school and he'd
be like, here a loser. He'd see me in the
hall and like call me a loser and stuff. It
was the most bizarre thing ever. But he lived with us,
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and did you share a room with you? My point
is this, me and Bas have a foster kid for
a year and then we're gonna send him on his way.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
So he moves out right after a year or whatever.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Yeah, because I think then his parents could get him back.
They they with the court system, or they proved that
their marriage was better and they went to some counseling.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And did you stay in contact with him?
Speaker 9 (11:10):
We did it because we moved though, so it was
in Yeah, it was around the same time within the
next year. Then we moved to Michigan, so we just
never saw or hurt it. But then because of Facebook,
that's how we were able to keep in contact. And
I learned about him and I can look up his
name and I was like, oh, man, he looks the same,
but he looks like he got involved with me. Eh,
(11:31):
I am going to need the name. Yeah, And I
know we're not going to say the name on here,
but I want to look.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
And the charges it was.
Speaker 9 (11:40):
What was one who he was at a laundry mat.
He would rob people and then he'd steal their cars,
so stuff like that. But I think it was all
drug related. So he just couldn't he couldn't get away
from the sticky stuff.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Sadly so.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
But if that dude ever hits me up on Facebook,
hey man, can I get five hundred dollars for me et?
I'm gonna say, dude, do you remember when you were
an eighth grader and I was a seventh grader, and
I had these chicks that liked me and my friends
were cool with me, and then they weren't impressionable because
you were eighteen or he was eight. We were maybe
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sixth They listened to everything he said, and all he
did was make fun of me. Football team made fun
of me. Dude, this dude showers for like thirty minutes.
How we're every little idiosyncrasy I have? He outed me
to every person. It was the weirdest thing ever. And
then I'd go home to the dude and it gets
even weirder.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
What was it? What was it like at home with him? Like?
Did you guys? Were you guys cool?
Speaker 9 (12:38):
I mean, he taught us tough. Like we had never
lifted weights, but we had a bench we just never
lifted and he's like, what do you he's doing? Man,
why aren't you guys lifting? So dude, we'd come home
at night and we'd start bench We never did it before.
We just had it sitting there and we go, oh,
you really you can do that, and he goes, yeah, dude,
you just really clinch your vince together and that's how
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you do a uh bench press. So he taught us
how to bench press. He taught us how to chew.
We're up in the upstairs attic. Dude, We're like doing
a chew all throwing up, dude. It was the craziest
year ever, so many different ways.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Your mom, like your family dynamic is crazy. First of all,
the fact that your mom just brings this kid home,
like like the Blindside, but it didn't turn out like
the blind Side, So you didn't get a movie, you
didn't get a book deal.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
It was a poor version of the blind and it was.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
The exact opposite, you know, the Blindside. He turns his
life around, he goes the NFL, he becomes this big
success story. You guys bring this kid in and he
ends up in prison, in and out of prison, addicted
to drugs.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
But his grades improved.
Speaker 9 (13:40):
It we didn't. It wasn't a blind Side type situation.
We weren't trying to make a Disney movie. My mom
was just keeping him away from his parents so that
they didn't get another attict fight with the baseball.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I understand that. But then the fact that you had
two foreign exchange students, I didn't. I've never known anybody bro.
Speaker 9 (13:58):
It gets crazier. One of the foreign exchange students paid
a dude to do a drive by shooting and he
shot at my family, and we got invested, not investigated,
whatever it's called. We had to meet with cops when
I was like in third grade and explain the cops
that I was shot at, and I thought every time
I was going to jail.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
But with that said, he that said, where were from Germany?
Speaker 11 (14:24):
Why?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
They were from Germany?
Speaker 9 (14:29):
All right, and they.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Tried to shoot at us.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
They were hot though what I remember, they were very attractive.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But dude, wait, adoption they were chop they were chicks.
Speaker 9 (14:39):
Yeah, they're both. The two chicks were foreign exchange students.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Wait the chick had people shoot at your house? Yes,
because my.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
Parents were strict and would make her go to church,
and so she told her her friends in high school,
you guys should shoot at this guy and or in
this family. He comes around with a gun, sawed off
shotgun and shoots at us. Dude.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
So, with all that said, did they shoot out the windows?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (15:01):
Out the window, but we had three acres, so the
road really never went right next to our house, and
there was bullet holes in the ground. It was a
bad shot and we all ran inside. So but with
all that said, we want me and Baser want to
provide that same thing to a family and do foster
care or foreign exchange students.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I have never known someone.
Speaker 10 (15:24):
After all of that, after this, we still want to
open our doors, but only for one year I and
then get the hell out of my house and don't
ever come back.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
But let me know how things go.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
And don't never end up on a jail website.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Man, I have never known someone to, hey, bring a
foreign exchange student to their house Like that is mind blowing, baffling,
the craziest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 9 (15:53):
Yeah, it doesn't happen as much anymore.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Like where I where did you?
Speaker 12 (15:58):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
How did that happen? Where you grew up? I don't
even know how that happens, dude. My mom is just
so smart. Like there was no internet, so.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
My mom exactly, they would send pre internet, bro. They
would send you a book and you would get to
pick the foreign exchange student that you wanted to come visit.
Who you thought. They would say no pet so and
we had all nothing but pets, so we couldn't pick
that person. We would pick out the foreign exchange student
we wanted.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
So it was like a male ordered for the foreign
exchange student. She bought it out of a magazine or
was it through school or was it through the church.
Speaker 9 (16:26):
It was never through the church. It was just a
booklet they would send and you'd pick them out, and
then then they'd come over to America.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Ow and were they there for like a year or
two years?
Speaker 11 (16:39):
A year?
Speaker 9 (16:39):
It was always a year, the one chick, the second one,
the first one. I know Inga and Silky. I don't
remember Silky as much. We were young, but Inga is
the shooter that hired the dude to shoot at us.
She took over the whole basement. We used to go
down there, play nerve football, we played basketball, watch TV.
Her room became the basement and so as kids, we
go Mom, I understand Christianity being nice, but she just
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took our whole rec room and Inga just be down
there having sex songs everywhere.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Hey, it's Mike d And this week a movie.
Speaker 13 (17:20):
Mike's Movie Podcast, I talked about the most and least
profitable movies of the last year, and every single week
I give you a spoiler free movie review. This past
week I talked about If, which did okay at the
box office even though it had a really big budget,
had an a list cast. I broke it down in
the review and gave you my theory on what was
lacking from this movie. So if you like spoiler free reviews,
(17:42):
be sure to subscribe to my podcast. But right now,
here's just a little bit of my IF review. Let's
get into it now. A spoiler free movie review of
If from writer and director John Krasinski, who you would
know from the office.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
He's also a directing movies like A Quiet Place.
Speaker 13 (17:57):
And this may surprise you, but I am not a
ca And you're gonna ask, why is this thirty two
year old going on about a kid's movie? Why is
he so passionate about it? As a former kid, I
hold these movies to a high regard, anything in the
family and kid category, because it was the reason I
fell in love with movies initially. So I don't want
any movie to rob any kid of that experience. You
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can rip me off as an adult, you can sell
me a bomb. I go watch a movie and I
hate it, that's fine. I'm an adult. I can take it.
But for a kid to go to a theater to
experience something that they want to take them out of
this world or to help them understand maybe something that
they can't learn from their parents, or they're struggling, maybe
don't have a parent. A movie can do that, and
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a movie can be powerful in many ways. So that
is why I hold these movies to such a high regard.
I don't review these as a thirty two year old me.
I review them me as a kid sitting in that theater,
but also taking the cues and the emotions that I
feel in the theater. So that is just my little
preface here. But what the movie is actually about. You
have this girl named Bee who is going through a
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traumagic experience. She just lost her mom and now her
dad is in the hospital. And during these times, as
she is interpreting all these emotions she's twelve years old,
she starts seeing other kids, imaginary friends. She has this
ability to see them, no one else can see them.
So it is her mission now throughout the movie to
pair up these imaginary friends who no longer have kids
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to play with, and find new kids for them so
they can continue to live on. Kayleie Fleming plays Bee,
who really dominated this movie. My favorite performance from a
young actor probably since Violet McGraw and Megan who also
carried that movie. I feel like we've gotten a little
bit away from letting kids lead movies. And I feel
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like her performance in this surpassed Ryan Reynolds and even
surpassed the als voice actors that were voicing all the
characters in this movie. So what she is struggling with,
even though she's twelve years old, she doesn't want to
be called a kid because she's experienced life, She's experienced
heartache and loss, and she he acts so much more
mature than she actually is. Meanwhile, in this time, her dad,
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John Krasinski, who's in the hospital, is doing all these
really playful things to keep the spirit really a light,
to kind of keep her mind off of why he
is actually there. She's like, Dad, stop doing that. I'm
not a kid. I don't need you to coddle me.
For her to have that kind of emotion really reminded
me of me as a kid, because as far back
as when I was in elementary school, I remember my
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teacher telling my mom that, hey, this kid acts way
more mature than he actually is. He doesn't really like
all the more childish things. And I had a real
hard time just being a kid because I was always
more mature. I had a brother and a sister who
were seven nine years older than me. So I think
it was me always trying to be cool in their
eyes that I didn't allow myself to be a kid.
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Probably past like eight or nine years old. I always
wanted to be like them, so even at eight or nine,
and I was probably acting more like a late teenager.
So that part of the movie really resonated with me,
because there are kids who have to grow up faster
because of the things they experience in life, and I
really haven't seen that represented in a movie yet, so
I think kids now being able to identify with a
character like that is really important. The other thing I
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identified with, which is more of what the movie focuses on,
is having an imaginary friend. Because b is connecting with
all these imaginary friends, they all have different personalities, and
I think seeing this as an adult reminded me of
my imaginary friend. I created him because I was really lonely.
I grew up in a trailer park and it was
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really hard for me to make friends. I had two
really solid friends in the trailer park that I made
on my own. I also had a cousin who was
like a built in best friend, and in the trailer
park I lived in. Everybody would eventually just move away
and you would never see him again again. This was
late nineties early two thousands, where internet wasn't as prevalent
as it is now. Once somebody left the trailer park,
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they were gone. My first best friend moved away, and
the ultimate move away from a trailer park is you
get a house. That was the ultimate goal. To go
from living in a trailer park to having a brick
house was the dream. So Zach was the first one
to do that. My other friend Eric moved away, my
cousin moved away, and it was just me by myself.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
It was hard for me to make new friends.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
When more kids would move into.
Speaker 13 (22:14):
The trailer park, I always felt like they were younger
than me, so it was hard for me to find
kids my age, and I was also just really awkward
and more mature. So I created an imaginary friend. I
don't really remember a whole lot of details about him,
probably because it was created at a trauma or something,
but I remember the last time playing with my imaginary
best friend.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It was raining.
Speaker 13 (22:33):
We were sitting on some steps and I think he
just evaporated, and that was me saying goodbye.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
To my childhood, I guess so.
Speaker 13 (22:39):
I think watching this movie as an adult will transport
you back into your childhood, especially if you had an
imaginary friend. The big problem I had with IF is
it felt really unoriginal, and it also took a really
long time to get going. It was probably forty five
minutes until anything really big happened, and that is hard
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to do kids movie. I felt the audience getting a
little bit restless because you need those big, fun moments
that kids are gonna get invested in, and I think
that was overall what this movie struggled with. It very
much felt more like an adult telling the story to
kids and thinking, oh, this is probably what kids like
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instead of what I like. In kids and family movies,
you forget that an adult is even involved in the process.
It feels more like it's a kid at the helm
calling all the shots, and it feels like a kid
movie being told from the perspective of a kid. I
think that is when a movie like this truly shines.
It reminds me of watching Nickelodeon as a kid, and
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that channel very much felt like there was no adult influence.
It felt like cartoons being made for kids by kids,
and all the adults were lame. A little bit of
that memory has been tarnished with quiet on the set now,
but I'm choosing to remember just the animated chosen, the
really early Nickelodeon stuff. So overall, I felt like it
was more of a movie made for adults. The overall
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message of the story was don't let yourself forget to
be a kid, don't be afraid to be a kid.
And it felt like it would resonate more with adults
watching it than it would kids. So overall, for if,
I give it three point five out of five Big
Purple Monsters.
Speaker 14 (24:21):
Adam Carolne She's a queen and talking and it was
so she's getting really not afraid to feed?
Speaker 15 (24:39):
Which episode soul?
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Just let it flow?
Speaker 14 (24:42):
No one can do we quiet car line it sound
for Caroline.
Speaker 16 (24:50):
Hey, y'all, it's Caroline Hobby from Get Real with Caroline Hobby.
And here is a clip from this week's episode.
Speaker 11 (24:57):
Okay, how did you and Michael meet? Speaking of romance?
How did John meat? Was it love at first sight?
Speaker 12 (25:01):
It was?
Speaker 15 (25:01):
Speaking of romance, Michael slid in the DMS?
Speaker 17 (25:04):
He did?
Speaker 11 (25:04):
How did he find you?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So?
Speaker 8 (25:06):
Biggest mystery to this day we do not know, slid
in the deep, slid in the DMS, and it was
pretty it was a pretty iconic DM.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
Okay, what did it say?
Speaker 8 (25:17):
So he didn't say anything. He sent me a video
of him. He was he was deer hunting and he
was in you know, his camo.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
You didn't know he existed. This is a random message,
just showing.
Speaker 8 (25:29):
So random, just showing up in my inbox. And he
just sent me a video of him and he was
wearing all camo. He was deer hunting and he just
was drinking Evan Williams just out of the bottle.
Speaker 16 (25:37):
That's what he sent you. And I was like that
could honestly also freak you out.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
For sure, but like if you know me, I did
not freak me out, Like heh yeah, who is this?
Speaker 11 (25:47):
He is he reading my mind? Because it could have
gone one of two ways.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Well no, I mean so like from California. But I
was like, I mean, like I always.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
Was, did he say anything or did he just take
a sip? And then he just like just video, just
short little video.
Speaker 16 (26:01):
Now he's just gonna see if that hit Yeah, I
guess yeah, So what happened after that?
Speaker 15 (26:06):
So I immediately was like yeah, like what's up?
Speaker 8 (26:12):
So I texted him back and I was just like
I said, some so like cringey and thirsty, embarrassing. I
was like, oh, like save me some oh save me
so bad. I wish so badly that I screenshoted those
like first few messages that we had together because maybe
it's for the best, but it probably is. But yeah,
(26:36):
I mean I was just like, who is this, Like,
country boy, are you in Nashville? I was, No, I
was in college. I was so I went to Ole,
miss So I was in Mississippi. So he oh, okay,
we all got Oh. It was probably like a little
bits like Mississippi like thing that just I don't know,
maybe he was somehow popped up.
Speaker 16 (26:52):
He had his eye on some Mississippi girls. Probably no
one it compared to you, but like he was looking
for maybe Mississippi maybe yeah, for sure for sure.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
And I was at home for winter break and I
was just like, ok so, yeah, that definitely caught my eye.
We just started chitchatting like nothing crazy, just like he was.
I think he was intrigued. He was like, I see
you're from California, Like why are you down here? And
we just started talking very casual, very casual, like nothing
(27:23):
long conversations, nothing like that. I mean, I didn't he
told me he was a songwriter. I was like, what
does that mean? Like I okay, and actually funny, this
is funny. I went to lurk his instagram, as one
does when someone damns you, and he had a lot
of pictures with Tyler and b K on the road
(27:44):
from FGL, and he had these like passes on which
like you know, we're just credentials.
Speaker 15 (27:49):
But I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 11 (27:51):
Because you were loving SBL.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
But I was like he's a super fan, Like he
is an FGL superfan, and that's fucking weird.
Speaker 16 (27:59):
Like I was gotten so tired that now he's like backstage,
Like I was like cringe.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Like ew, like he's a super fair like following them
around because he had like pictures with them throughout and
I was like I don't know about all.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
This, like like this is too Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
I was like, oh god, he's so. I just didn't
really say anything about that, and we just you know,
I was like the conversation like okay, okay, I needed.
Speaker 15 (28:22):
To hold that against him.
Speaker 11 (28:23):
I need to dig into this, but we'll get there.
Speaker 15 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
So basically we just kind of I don't know, just
like kept chatting very casually, like here and there. And
then I was back at school and the Lyric is
the little music venue in town, and he had his buddy,
Jameson Rogers was playing a show with the Lyric, and
then his other buddy, Hunter Phelps, was opening up for Jamison,
and he was supposed to be out on the road
(28:47):
writing but Jamison or Hunter's drummer got sick and last
minute asked Michael.
Speaker 11 (28:51):
To fill in. Can he drum?
Speaker 15 (28:53):
So he can?
Speaker 8 (28:55):
But even better, this wasn't the real drums. It was
the Kohen like the box drum. So, like, my man is.
Speaker 11 (29:01):
Up there on stage, this is the first time I met.
Speaker 12 (29:04):
Yeah, so so he's coming to play a show at
your college, so it's probably like a big deal.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
It was, but like, so my friends and I were
already going are show.
Speaker 11 (29:12):
Did they like pack out?
Speaker 17 (29:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's fun, like all the all everyone goes
buy the tickets are like twenty bucks.
Speaker 16 (29:17):
Soever, this could not be a more perfect time to
see how you're going to feel in person.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Yes, And I was like so nervous, but I brought
a couple of my friends and I was like, you
guys have to come, like you guys, we're going to
the show, right, like you have to come with me
because like this guy's going to be there now.
Speaker 15 (29:31):
And so we went, yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
I didn't even know like he's he's like I'm gonna
be in the band. And I just see him up there,
like sitting on this little.
Speaker 15 (29:37):
Box like.
Speaker 11 (29:39):
Did that did that fill the vibes up or down?
Speaker 15 (29:42):
Honestly?
Speaker 8 (29:43):
I was having the time of my life, Like I
was laughing my ass off like at him with him,
just like what is happening right now? And we wiggled
our way to the front and we were like Michael
like trying to get his attention. And he swears to
this day that he never saw us. We were like hey, really,
like hey, I'm like to be.
Speaker 15 (30:01):
Taller than everyone in this crowd. I'm like never saw me. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
So and he was like okay, like after the show,
like let's find up with spot to me and we'll
just meet in there.
Speaker 11 (30:09):
And I was like okay, yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
So they finish the set and we go meet up
up at the balcony meet up and we're just like hi,
And I saw him coming from a distance, and I
just like chugged my drink and I was.
Speaker 11 (30:23):
Like, oh my god, like are you excited?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 15 (30:25):
I was really excited.
Speaker 16 (30:26):
So the actual like laying eyes on each other was
like good because do you know when you talk to
someone online though sometimes you never know.
Speaker 11 (30:32):
I's going to translate into the human form for.
Speaker 8 (30:34):
Sure, but I was like what, like who cares? Like
why do you have to lose? Like okay? And I
was with my friend and my friend ran up to
him first and she was like you're Callie's are you
Cally's friend? And he was like yeah yeah, and so
I was like hi, and we hugged and it.
Speaker 12 (30:47):
Was and his first thought was She's like damn, this
girl's tall, like my god, and he said my voice
was like deeper than he thought it would be.
Speaker 15 (30:55):
I was like, great, off to a good start.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
I'm Shrek like fabulous.
Speaker 11 (31:03):
Thank you appreciate it?
Speaker 8 (31:06):
Like that is so him too, if you know him,
like he will be trying to give a compliment and
then it's like it just doesn't.
Speaker 15 (31:13):
I'm like, oh, you were.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
All clothes, like, oh my god, like you should hear it,
like when he tries to compliment my like Award show dresses.
Like he just says the most weird shit, and I'm like,
give me an example, like I wore I wore this
one dress with like this big structured like silver ruffle
on it, and he was like, you look like silver bacon,
like a big silver bacon. And I was like yeah,
(31:37):
like yes, So that just like sums.
Speaker 16 (31:43):
It all perfectly because he love bacon though, so that's great.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
I mean, yeah, like you want to like silver. So
that was like, that is like week the silver bacon dress.
This is the silver bacon dress. You guys can go
find it, like there's a picture of it and you will. Honestly,
looking at it, it does look like a giant piece
of like ruffled little bacon. But that is a perfect example.
So she showed me exactly who you are from day one, honestly.
Speaker 17 (32:23):
Good.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Cats up little food for yourself, Lie saying, oh it's.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
Pretty behave it's pretty beautiful thing beautiful. That for a
little more exciting, because of course said he can't your
kicking with four with Amy Brown.
Speaker 18 (32:50):
Hey, it's Amy Brown from Four Things with Amy Brown.
And here's what we talked about this week on my podcast.
The opening lyrics of Same Drunkers sister's hooked on another jackass,
Mama's hooked on looking young, Daddy's hooked on cutting the grass,
brothers hooked on smoking Some is like, we all can
have our things that we're using to mask what the
(33:12):
real issue is. And so what you're saying is the
last eight years you've been having to address and figure
out what that is and work through it.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Yeah, and I'm in.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I don't know if whatever gets to the bottom of it, Like,
I don't know if there's any answer. I just find
a lot of peace and just going Okay, that's what
we do. Like Lenny and I we're gonna be married
twenty years and I have yet to wake up and
love her not selflessly. That saddens me, but it also
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kind of frees me to go, oh, that's kind of
what's wrong with humanity. That's people's downfall, you know, And
it's good to analyze those motives and go, I'm sorry, Lenny.
I want to love you, not for myself, for just you,
because you deserve I love you and I don't want
anything in return. I'm not doing the dishes tonight, so
you'll make out with me later. I think if you
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step back and look at life. It's just nice to go, oh,
we we're kind of like, that's kind of what we do,
you know, that's that's what's wrong with us. And so yeah,
to me, that's my that's my therapy, being like, oh man,
it's so free to learn about humans and our tendencies
and our downfalls and things like that that have been
(34:27):
going on for a gazillion years. But you're right, you know,
sometimes like I always sing an AA or saying drug
and I'll see I'll see somebody in the crowd and
I'll be like, I'm not judging.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I'm just saying what it is.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Like if you're drink it.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Out there, let's go, it's all good, you know. But
that is an interesting moment that happened at my ship.
Speaker 18 (34:50):
Well, I think for you there's probably been a lot
of therapeutic moments in your songwriting obviously, and for those
of us to get to enjoy what amazing songwriters like
you put out there. I mean, there's so much healing
for us, like when we're listening to it, and there
I bet through your vulnerability through your music, there are
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those aha moments of people and they don't they don't
feel judged by you. They just feel like, oh, maybe
there's this this connection. They feel like, I can't imagine
that you haven't heard stories. I don't know, maybe from
beer and a fridge. Has anybody reached out to you
about After listening to that song and being like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
that hit a little too close to home and it
woke me up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, I mean, what a gift from God. You know,
as a parent, you're gonna I mean, I'm gonna get
emotional when I started telling on this could I'm in
the thick of it with my kids, just on a
few things that they're struggling with. And this isn't like
woe is me, but like I was, I was a
lonely kid, you know, and lonely it is dark. One
(35:53):
of my least favorite places could be is in the
house with Laney. But very hateful and resentful is when
you're lonely next to someone. That's the worst. I mean,
oh my god, Like nothing is as painful as loneliness.
And so you know, maybe that's why I am so
vomited with my things, as almost as if to say, hey,
(36:17):
I gotta tell you, I struggle with this. Oh my god,
it's just carry me up inside because I'm lonely with it.
And I just just want you to know how I
struggle with this and that that has been such a
relief to communicate with her, to communicate with my kids
and go, hey, you know you put down on this pedestal.
Let me tell you, son, I have trouble with what
(36:38):
I look at on social I have trouble with what
I look at in the gym. I have trouble with
where my eyes go. I need to share this with
you because I don't want to be alone with this
this stuff, because it's really tearing me up. I had
coffee with the guy today that this dude he read
glad you're here and the loss of a kid kind
(36:59):
of just destroyed his marriage. But he, honestly, I think
he just want a friend. Like I don't think he
cares whether I'm famous or not. He just got a
glimpse of some stuff, you know that's happened to me
and was just like, maybe and stud would have coffee
with me.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I need him as much as he needs me. It's
definitely scary.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Sometimes to be like, hey, I'm kind of an a
hole and I kind of am not good at this
and I kind of struggle with this, but I've never
regretted just admitting it and the blessings that come out
of other people, you know, sharing with me, and that
(37:39):
unification that we share and just and we need help.
I need camaraderie. I don't want to be by myself
with this. It's not the easiest thing, you know, to
be like, hey, everyone, I am weak as a dude.
That's not like the funnest, most inviting place you know
to be, but it's it's really what keeps my wife
(38:01):
and I just kind of feeling like the Lord has
us doing what we're doing for for a kind of
a reason. If that makes an instrument.
Speaker 18 (38:09):
Yeah, everything you've been through, it's like, well, you can
filter it through what has this made possible for your family?
And you're one on one connections with people that you
don't even know. They live halfway around the world, who knows,
But there's that connection through the gifts and talents that
you've been given and because you're willing to be vulnerable
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and amid things that other men might be like what
I would never tell anybody that, but they see you
doing it, and then it's a domino effect.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, it's been magical, but it's also calling from a
lot of brokenness. But it's just everybody. Every single person's
fighting some battle you don't know about. And so yeah,
Lenny and I really felt, always felt compelled to just
fit it all out there and quit acting like everything's
just hockey Dory over here.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Thanks for listening to this week's sampler.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
If you liked any of the clips, maybe you want
to hear more of that episode, go and check it out.
Just search for them wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks,
I'm great Sunday, Bye, everybody.