Thurs Post Show (11-17-22)

Bobby reads a list of the most regretted majors. We talk about our majors in college and if we regret them or not. Bobby explains the Allegory of the Cave.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's time for the Bobby Bones post show. Here's your host,
Bobby Bones. Hello, friends, the most regretted college majors. Mine
isn't number one journalism. And you know I was talking
to who oh it was Mike. Who who'd I talked

(00:26):
with about college majors? Jordan Reynolds. So we've been doing
a bunch of Bobby cast to get caught up for
the end of the year. Jordan Reynolds is a songwriter
who wrote a bunch of he'd written a bunch of stuff,
but he wrote a bunch of Dan and Jay massive
song starting with Tequila and all the way down. I
actually had a lot. I had a really good time
with him. That'll be out in a couple of weeks.
But we were talking about college majors and he was

(00:46):
a vocal major, but he's not never a singer. But
he was like, I don't want to do music. So
he moved in it from Saint Louis and I was like, wow,
it's a TV radio major one of my deals, and
you don't need that. And I told the story about
how I went to Texas State and told the kids
in the radio class, don't do this, don't study this,
if you want to do it, just go learn it
on the real world while you go to college and
study something else. Learning it in college doesn't help you

(01:09):
at all because no station, especially in the radio world, goes, oh,
you have a college degree from radio that you here's
the leg up, not one single one. TV different because
there are some skills that you can learn at the
college television station. But I got in a lot of
trouble and they said, don't never come back to the
school again. And then later I got years later, I

(01:30):
got a letter, go and we're sorry about that. You
can come back, but we're talking about that, and I said, yeah,
for like what we do, or like it'd be like
going to podcasting college. You know, you just do it.
You get on the internet, you look up how to
do it, and then you do it wrong, and then
you do it kind to wrong. Then you do it okay,
then you do it pretty good, and if you have
the patience, you end up doing good and you can
make a little bit of money or alive. But journalism

(01:52):
is a number one major and that's me and I agree,
no need number two, sociology, number three, liberal arts, general studies.
But here's the thing. I still think these are valuable
in that you did prove that you could take a task,
look at it, finish it, you have it. But it's
just this specifically is the least valuable of all. I'm
also at a period where I don't even think you

(02:12):
have to go to college. I went to college. My
family had ever been to college. Nobody my family godes
went to high school, but I went up. Was important
to me to go. But if somebody was like my kids,
if we ever kids like, I don't want to go
to college. I want to already know what I want
to do. Cool, you can always go back to college,
Go get it, Go start working on what you want
to work on. I definitely don't think you need to
go to college at this point. Now, there are some

(02:35):
things that college does lead you into a little easier,
a job in finance, you know, specific type jobs. But
I definitely am not a you have to go to
college type guy. Education at five and they keep on
going down. But most people, they say, almost half say
that third job major was stupid and they shouldn't have

(02:55):
done it. Yours, I don't. I mean I liked I
mean I was a political science from fill my junior
year and I hate political science. Yes, no, no, no, no.
A junior, I hated it so much and then I
switched and I just needed to graduate kind of on time.

(03:17):
So my adviser, in order for me to get out
in four and a half years, she switched me to
agricultural development because you have to have not a minor,
but an emphasis in something, and so I mean just
by the classroom if it's no somebody who took a class.
It was like, if you've like my twelve hours of
polycide transferred over because that counted his emphasis. Yeah, at

(03:38):
a minor in French, Oh are you using that? We really? Yeah,
but I mean I don't use mine. Well, I strategized
my French miner because we had to take a foreign language.
For to be a communications major, you had to take
four classes for three hour classes of a foreign language.
Spanish was full. I want to take Spanish, but that

(03:59):
would have been good, and so then I was like, well,
I guess I'll take French. I was terrible at it,
but I finished one two one year, one two. The
next year. Then they said for your minor, we only
need fifteen hours for a minor, and I was like, wait,
any one more class, I have a French miner and
they're like, yeah, so I took a French lit class,
which is all in English. We just learned about literature,
and so the Devin French miner. Nice, that's cool, bog,

(04:23):
but yeah, we're worthless, right, worthless lunch watch you Oh
easy speech, communication nailed it, and public relations made the
list and minor in general business. That's why I'm a businessman.
I'm making business deals trying to get that money. I mean.
The most ridiculous one was my roommate. Though he got
a degree in philosophy to teach philosophy. That's pretty cool

(04:45):
be a philosopher, though I feel like I am a
lot of times. You can just call yourself one. Yeah. Yeah.
He was gonna go into criminal justice. He went, and
but it was gonna take four and a half years.
So he switched to philosophy. And he would come home
and argue with me, Hey, how do you know we're
awake right now, We're not dreaming? Absolutely, do you know
we're not a simulation? And I'm like, oh my god,
you don't know. That's the point of it. You don't know.
But that is what he did all day. He got
a degree in that. Yeah, I love it. Those classes

(05:08):
changed my life in many ways that I continue to
take philosophy classes even after my first two. I'd tell
you start about my philosophy professor. How do you know
he's real? I don't. I don't know anything real. The
only thing we know is real really is us. And
then we're confused about that. I don't know what you're thinking.
I can't see in but here's what happened. You know
what I'm thinking. No, I go to my fo. He's
an idiot. I'm thinking, like, what are you talking about? Yes?

(05:28):
But are you just saying that to me? Made me
question the fact that I shouldn't be figuring out what's
happening in here? Oh right? I mean it's yeah, See,
this is what I'm talking about. This was my roommate
living with him, and it was just like, I can't
I can't talk to you because you come up with
these dumb conversations, and I don't think it's dumb. I
went and I learned about the cave, the allegory of

(05:49):
the cave, and it was one of the greatest things
I'd ever learned, because what it taught me was I
don't know anything going on, I see things my perceptions
do say, I see touch, feel, but I really don't
know anything. And they start to wondered, what is there
even a known? However, I learn it, I'm gonna go
into it, but I'm so moved by it. I dial

(06:10):
in on this class. I don't even want to take
this class because they're like, this, professor is so hard.
And I take the class because it was the only
one I could get into. At that point, I was working,
and I had to be selective on what times I
could take things. Heaps working a full time job, so
I couldn't just go take the class. Oh, I really
want that class, Well, it's only offered it three Well
I had to drive an hour to get to work
by then, so I couldn't. So I took this really

(06:30):
hard class. And it's really hard professor. They said, don't
take and I'm like, God, I can know, So I
go on. I learned about the cave Plato's rocking It Man.
People lived in a cave the whole time. In the cave,
they were basically chained to the ground. Right, these these
two people three two or three chained to the ground,
and they lived in the bottom of a cave, and

(06:51):
on the wall of the cave, all they saw was
like lights, and that was from the outside of the
cave coming in. It was like the fire made reflection
on the lights. But they had never actually left the
cave because they were chained to the ground and they
could only look forward in their entire world. Was this
what they saw in front of them? It'd be like
what you see every day in your life, what's in
front of you. But all they ever saw was in

(07:12):
front of them. One of them was freed. He goes
out of the cave and he sees the whole world,
and he sees birds, and he sees mountains. He breathes
there differently, and he sees green grass. He's his colors
he's never seen before because the only they'd ever seen
ever in their whole life was the reflection of the
fire in the cave and on that wall. And he's

(07:33):
able to experience all these things. He's only out for
a little bit. They put him back in the channer,
back down to the position he's been his whole life,
and he goes, yess, you're never gonna believe this. Out
there colors, birds, little things that fly other people, mountains, clouds,
blue skies, rain water coming from and they're like, what
are you talking about. There's no they can't even comprehend

(07:54):
what those persons saw. They don't even believe he left.
They couldn't see him. He just got quiet. They don't
they don't know that he left and ran around and
so all this stuff felt these things. So they're like,
you're the biggest idio ever. You're so stupid. That doesn't happen,
That can't possibly exist. He's like, no, I went out
of the cave. I saw it all. They're like, no,
that you're so dumb. That can't happen, because the whole

(08:15):
world is just here. What we see, this is our
whole world. There's nothing more than this. And he's like,
what what we think? But we haven't had the ability
to actually get out of here. But they let me.
I was able to go, and so again we were
able to let feet. The walk got stopped. Okay, you're
you're now insane. You're now insane, and we're not going

(08:36):
to be your friend anymore. Now he left cave. He
was able to see all this stuff. And what that
is is, how do we know there are people that
can see and do things that we can't the fire
to us what we see every day in our life
and what we're able to take in with our eyeballs
and our ears and our senses, and we're not even
able to see things that our dogs can see or people.

(08:57):
Some people can think things differently better, But we are
the people in the cave, and that wall is what
we're able to see and experience every single day, and
what's on it, And we go, no, there's no, there's
no way outside of our earth there can be things living.
It doesn't have to even be that. It can be
things here with us that we can't smell or see

(09:17):
your touch, or it can be it can be a
limit less amount of things because we probably can't even
think of them. And are we those people in the cave? Yeah,
in some way sure, because we can't ever see anything
but what's on the wall. Anyway, that's the allegory of
the cave. I wanted to apologize everyone listening and let
you guys in here, I should have never brought up

(09:39):
philosophy in my roommate. Getting changed change my life, right,
And so then I started to just dive into all
of these different philosophers. Everybody from I mean, somebody called
this that was this morning or was it recorded about Voltaire?
When I was like, no, Voltaire actually said it was
Voltaire who said it, who said I may not agree
with you, but I'll fight to the death. You're right

(09:59):
to say it paraphrase. And so but I started to
study all of these philosophers and everything that I had
learned growing up. And I grew up in a in
an environment that wasn't very welcoming to new ideas, wasn't
very inclusive because everybody just went to work. There was
no there was no we don't want to learn it. It

(10:21):
It was like there's no time to learn it, there's
no welcoming it because you got to pay the bills.
And a lot of my even belief system was tilted
because of all the things I learned that I didn't know,
which taught me all the things that I knew I
could never learn. So why would I say things couldn't
happen when I don't have the ability to understand what

(10:42):
can and can't. So all this stuff in my mind
is just I just boom every day. And it was
a hard class too, But every day I was challenged
with the point where I would be exhausted, and I
would be sad. I would be really sad because here
I am questioning a lot of things that I was
taught for no reason. I was just taught it because
people around me were taught it, and you just pass
it down without actually knowing it. But because it was

(11:02):
told you from a generation before, you just go up,
must be true. That's a hard thing to do, to
have to start wondering, oh, all that that was told
to me, for all the that maybe isn't true, or
some of it's true, none of it. You have to
start questioning everything again. It was the first time I
had any sort of education to start questioning things that
I had been conditioned to learn and know. As professor

(11:25):
was just bus people's balls too, no curve, you just
took test people just people were quit in class, struggling,
struggling like BC. I never got to see in college
until French I did get to see, but I was
in that low B spot. I didn't want to get
to see it, and I ended up with a lob.
But the class was so hard, and but that teacher

(11:47):
I really and I don't think he even knew who
I was. But I was a student that was very
dedicated to learning because I was so interested. I was.
I was curious, and I really appreciate at him because
you could tell he cared even though he was very hard.
He walked to school every day, and a lot of
times I'd see him. I don't want to pick him up,

(12:07):
but I was like, oh, I'm he didn't want to ride.
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, I don't know. He
just walked with his books. Older guy Beard. He come in,
loved philosophy, wasn't didn't it wasn't the warmest, nicest guy,
wasn't mean, but just came in, do the job, passionate
about it, a little, a little weird. Then would leave.
And so finally the whole summer I was just working.

(12:31):
I was like, many, when I go back, I'll call
him mister Jones. Like I'm gonna go back. I cannot wait.
I'm gonna go to mister Jones. I'm gonna go to
his office and knock on the door and I say, hey,
mister Jones, you've changed my life. You don't even know
who I am and his Bobby. I was in your class.
There were eighty other people in this class. But I'm
gonna tell you you changed my life, and I planned
because I had wanted to do or reach out to him,
I never did. And I was like, you know, if
I see him on the side where I'm picking him up,

(12:53):
because I had all these new feelings and emotions, and
I had a lot of growth, most of my growth
utalizing at a lot to row. And so first day
of school, I go and I look, and they they
built a new building because we were in like those
temporary trailers, like I don't know what they portables for

(13:13):
that part of of the campus. His office wasn't a
portable for it. And And I'm trying to find out where
his office is because they just rebuilt one of the halls.
And I go over and I look, and I can't
find his name on the list. Must be another building.
So I go over to the little center where you
ask you have any questions, I say, Hey, what happened
to mister Jones. They said he died like two weeks ago.

(13:35):
I never told him. Always I wanted to tell him
before I left, And I was like, oh wait, I'll wait,
I'll wait, I'll tell him a new year, I'll tell him,
I tell him, I tell him he died two weeks
before I was able to go and actually go. Hey, man,
your passion for this and your ability to express it,
and you how you challenge me in this class has

(13:57):
shaped who I know I'm not. And I built it
up and I waited too long and I was two
weeks late, and I regret that, and I don't regret
many things. I pushed a button that costs a million
bucks once. That was tough, But that's really a big
regret for me because that I could have done it

(14:20):
at any point. I could have done it when the
school end, I had the same feeling. I was just
nervous to do it and scared to do it. But
then when I went to do it, he was dead
or was he? What? There? So anyway? So good thing
about your roommate, Huh? How about that? Yeah? Man? Shout
out John. For those that are new to this show,

(14:45):
this is how a five hour show used to be.
We played no music. We come on five o one.
Something I'd have on a piece of paper and I
would go, oh, how about this as a shortage and
toilet paper shortages, man, and it'd be an hour of
some weird and we would just go for five hours
no music. Sometimes we'd be like, let's just skip commercials.

(15:06):
We get in trouble for that one. Yeah, we or
then we play like two commercial blocks back to back
because we'd never get to them. But that is kind
of what this show used to be, and then it
is what it is now. We've play a couple of
songs and we have to get commercials because if we don't,
our affiliates leave us and we don't need that. They
don't need to be in the allegory of the cave
right in the middle of it and leave me, you
know what I mean. So anyway, that's that, that's the

(15:29):
whole story. That didn't I mean, I obviously didn't plan
to get there because it wasn't the idea. Yeah. Well,
Also a takeaway from that for listeners, don't punt. Don't punt,
go do it. Oh yes, go for it like you're
gonna regret it. Don't punt crap. If you have something
you would like to say to someone, go ahead and say.
Never a perfect time for anything. It's not even about
saying something. There's there's not a perfect time. You want

(15:52):
to have kids and a perfect time that's true, You'll
never be ready if you're waiting to get a house
because you're not exactly and you don't know when. There's
not a perfect time. There's not a perfect time. The
perfect time is right now. Now. Don't do anything it's
gonna get well, not even rash. Don't do anything that
is irresponsible. But if you're like, you know, we could

(16:14):
right now. But what we need is for this to
in the market to and there's not a perfect time.
There's not a perfect time for anything, because you can't
predict unpredictable things, which I could do another hour on
people to go expect the unexpected. That's the dumbest thing
you ever heard. You can't possibly expect something that's unexpected
because it's unexpected. Now, you can expect for things to
happen that you weren't told we're going to happen, but

(16:36):
you can't expect the unexpected because it's unexpected. And if
it's unexpected, there is you can't get to the expect expectation. Anyway,
We're done, Yeah that fifteen minutes do we hit the market.
I had a question, but I'm scared. I want to
know what happened to philosophy degree. He went to the

(16:58):
Marines and then became a jag. Now he's a he
has a law firm. That's awesome. Yeah, shout out John,
How just a good job. Philosophy degree, you guys act
like yeah something sad no no no wait wait wait,
this whole thing started with philosophy degree is one of
the worst ones, right, Yes, and this dude's a jag lawyer. Yeah,
but he didn't study law. Different You can get any
degree then go to law school. Yeah, he went the Marines.

(17:19):
Then he decided, you know, I'm become a lawyer. And
so then we had to pay for him and go
to law school. You did. Yeah, he called me up
and said, hey, man, I'm gonna you're gonna to pay
for me to go to law school because he was
in the Marine. So we pay for the government, the
people taxes. But that's what but no, no, no, no,
that's what he told me. He called me, he goes hey, man,
I'm gonna need you to do me something. I'm gonna
need you to pay for me to go to law school.

(17:39):
And so then when he graduated from the University of
Nebraska law school, he called me, goes, hey, thanks man,
I got my law degree, thinking thank you get the call.
I know my taxes too, waits there and then he
was a jagon. Now let me roll through these stories
real quick. Jimmy Allen is gonna host New Year's Eat
special on CBS. That's my friend that did that job
I was talking about earlier. Oh yeah, right, I couldn't

(18:01):
do it, And I was like, who they got because
I've known for a long time, love that it's Jimmy.
That's my dude. He's gonna do a great job, and
he performed on it last year and it's gonna be awesome.
So I mean, I'm not encouraging you guys to watch
it because they weren't really able to meet my needs.
But if you need to watch one, this is the
one you watch. Jimy's gonna do a great job. What
I thought it was gonna be me? I thought they're
gonna call dang they did. Rumored painting of Shakespeare set

(18:23):
to sell for twelve million bucks. A man thinks he
has a previously unknown painting of William Shakespeare. The current
owner brought it in nineteen seventy five four hundred bucks.
Leading Shakespeare expert Michael Dobson says that the idea it's
a portrait of Shakespeare's wishful thinking, and I think that's
because we've kind of invented what Shakespeare looked like. Yes,
by the way, they don't even know if there's one Shakespeare,
or if it was a bunch of people, or if
Shakespeare was a fraud and just stole. Everybody's worried because

(18:47):
there's so many. It's so derivative of other things, like
another hour. I like that though. That's cool. It's like
the telephone game with history. It is and there is
a thing. There's what we remember of Shakespeare and what
they've drawn this painting, and it's a whole thing. But
some people swear on their life there was no single Shakespeare.
There was a group of like a troop. Some people

(19:10):
think there was a Shakespeare body stole everything, or and
some people think there was there was a Shakespeare, but
he was just an idiot and they used him for
all the really good works, and they used him as
like the mouthpiece of it, to be like I wrote this,
So it was someone who could be the face of it.
That's amazing. There's a lot of theories about that. A

(19:32):
doctor doctor seeing more pickaball injuries, nothing serious, but just
people are playing more so they're geting hurt more. And
then vandals free more than ten thousand minks from a
farm in Ohio on Tuesday. An active screwp called Animal
Liberation Front maybe may have been behind it. A lot
of minks were killed crossing a road next to the property.
Low weird cats like like coats. Yeah they're not cats,

(19:55):
but I'm just they've got the fur and boots with them.
I mean, I guess they were gonna die anyways. Yeah,
but it's a good thing. They're fair with a cat fur.
Yeah yeah, yeah, Ay. What was your question? Real quick?
If we have to go, did you have one? Oh? Yeah?
About philosopher? And I hit it. I don't I'm not
an expert. I just tell you what well, I mean,

(20:17):
I've enjoyed everything. Are you gonna ask? Are there any
modern day philosophers? Oh my god, Lizzo? Why man? I
think Lizzo says them really in depth stuff. Yeah, it's
in her fun little catchy and she songs and Lizzo
is awesome. But yes, there are some modern day philosophers.

(20:38):
I think Lizzo is quite remarkable. Question real quick? I
think it was about the unexpected. It was more so
like can you expect the idea and be open to
the unexpected. Could that be what it's saying, to expect
the unexpected? Okay, you can't, it's unexpected, but you can

(21:01):
expect things that you had no idea we're going to happen.
You can't expect okay, Yeah, you can't run fast slow? No,
you can't. Can you run fast slow? Because can you
expect unexpected? No, because it's unexpected. The idea of the unexpected.
You can expect the idea, but you don't know what
it is. Right, you can't expect the unexpected. You can't

(21:22):
run fast slow, right, Okay, I just like the idea
of being open to the unexpected talking about this stuff. Okay,
let's go not in that way, all right. We're out
of here, so you go by