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December 10, 2024 40 mins

Listener Erica called in for some advice with an ex-husband situation and it's CRAZY. Bobby gets the full story on what happened. We give our Tuesday Reviews Day that includes Bobby watching a new show called Black Doves. Bobby also shares how he hit a big bet last night on the Bengals/Cowboys game.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wake Up, Wake Up in.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
The morn and.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
It's on the radio, and the dogs tidy in lunchbox,
mor game too stevered at it, trying to put you
through the fog. He's running this week's next bit, The
Bobby's on the box, So you knowing.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
This the Bobby ball school Erica back on. Hey, Erica,
when I venmode you that I wrote the wrong message.
I wrote boom, no need for the lower. I meant
no need for the loser. I just wanted to get
her back on because I wrote the wrong thing, Okay.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
So I just figured it was don't go row.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, that works.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Erica called us earlier and said that she has an
ex husband who won't pay and her kid needs some
money for school, and her ex husband cheated with her stepsister.
That is some Jerry Springer type stuff. How did you
even find that out here?

Speaker 5 (01:00):
So my husband, we were married for twenty years, and
he always said, you know that my stepsister is ub noxious.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
He can't stand.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Her, YadA, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
He didn't like going to family functions because she would
be there, and all of a sudden, they just they
started hanging out. I was like, that's kind of odd.
So my stepsister was like, Oh, I met this new guy,
YadA yah, He's so perfect, and you know, she's just
always talking about him. And then my husband's like, oh,
I talked to so and so today it's like, why
did you talk to her? And he's like, oh, I

(01:29):
don't know. She contacted me. So there was a.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Lot of little flags.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
And so he left his laptop open one day and
I snooped, and sure enough they had been contacting each other.
And so I'm kind of vindictive. So I put cameras everywhere,
put cameras in my house. I put cameras in his truck,
and I.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Got proof and I.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Sent everything to her command. I got her kicked out
of the military. I can't do much to him because
you know, he's not in the military anymore. So I
blasted that to her command, and I sent an email
to the family, and see seed everybody in it. Everybody knew.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
So a lot did the family react, because again, they
have you, they have a stepsister, it's a family dynamic.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
What did they say? My dad was mad.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
It caused a lot of friction between him and his wife.
And everybody expected it from my stepsister because that's just
the type of person she is. Whenever she would deploy,
you know, she'd come back and be like, oh, you know,
I met this person, I met that person, I did this,
and I did that. So everybody expected it from her,

(02:42):
but not from my husband.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Are they Are they still together? Your husband and your stepsister? No,
I wouldn't think so. Yeah, that's kind of shady and
shady people keep doing shady's things, even if not right away.
They shady's kind of in the blood. I'm that's traumatic,
and I'm very sorry that happened to you. Were you
able to ever find another good dude, remarry anything like that.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
That's not on my radar right now. I'm trying to
get my daughter through college, so that's my main concern.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I totally understand that.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, you have the venmo, do the six hundred bucks,
so you have it, right, that is you, I do
have it yet, awesome. I'm so happy to do it.
You put me out none. I just want you to
know that, listen. I have a job that rocks now
and have money, and so I'm happy to help people out.
That's my favorite thing about being successful. So feel no guilt.

(03:32):
Don't contact your loser husband. You don't need this six
hundred dollars anymore. If you do decide to contact him,
get six hundred bucks from him, and then go buy.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Some clothes or something.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah, that won't be happening.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Okay, Well, Erica, we appreciate you listening, and I'm sorry
that you had to go through all of that because that,
like all serious. Since we've had some jokes, that's some
traumatic stuff and I hate that happened to you. And
I hope you have a merry Christmas, and I hope
your daughter is able to finish your school stuff and
hopefully we'll we'll.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Meet again soon.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Okay, yes, sir, thank you guys so much.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
I met you guys one time when you guys were
in Austin at the Outlet Mall, when you guys were
on the hip hop station. I met you and Lunchbox
with a rapping was having a rap rap concert.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
No, that's a long time, my Captain Caucasian, A long
time ago.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, Erica, thank you for calling and having mary Christmas.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
And we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Okay, awesome, Thank you guys so much.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Time for the news.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Bobby's story Amy Dorothy's ruby red slippers from Wizard of
Oz went up for sale.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's kind of a weird thing to do because if
you over guess, it's not going to be that fun.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I already know you, already.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Good for you for being honest. Eddie Guests had one million.
That's a lot. One million dollar. I mean they're so famous. Yeah,
thirty two point five million. Oh, whoa, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
It was crazy too, is Remember we talked about how
they had been stolen. So if they got stolen, who
sold them?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I think it was another pair that got stolen.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
I heard Dorothy's ruby slippers worn by Judy Garland. I
would imagine there were a couple. Yeah, maybe. And the
Wizard of Oz sold at an auction Saturday for thirty
two point five million, making the Sparkling shoes the most
valuable movie memorabilia ever.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
That's amazing. Thirty two million, That is wild.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
The slippers are one of four surviving pairs from the
nineteen thirty nine movie, and we're once stolen from a museum.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
These are them? Those were the ones.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
The winning bid was twenty eight million, and the buyer
had to pay an additional four point five million in
fees to the Dallas based auction house bidding for the pair. Yeah,
it's what you go, Oh my goodness, and uh, they
were thought to go for three million or more. They
went for thirty two point five million. That's from NBC.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
That's crazy. That's trade. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
A CEO of a tech startup has openly said that
he's looking for employees who are willing to work long hours,
specifically up to eighty four hours a week.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
How's that.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Mathematically? That that out, Mike.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
It's like sixteen hours a day.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
And something to say about that. But let's see what
we got here.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
He leads a company called Grettile that focuses on artificial intelligence.
He shared on social media he expects his team to
be available from nine am to eleven pm at least
five days a week. Here's the thing I like about it, though,
he is saying, right now, here are the expectations.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
He's not going.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
So you know, right, he's not going, you're gonna work
long hours and you really don't know, but then it's
gonna pay a lot.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's from k r N four, but he says eighty
four hours a week.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
If you do twelve hours per day, seven days a week,
that's eighty four right.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
But he wants five days a week. So now you're
looking at what sixteen hours a.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, but you got weekends off? How about that?

Speaker 6 (06:34):
You do?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And I mean like lawyers will end up working crazy
hours like that, and to your point, it's sort of unknown.
Depending on the case, they may be there all night.
So at least this is known.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Can I tell you I probably work seventy five hours
a week?

Speaker 6 (06:48):
You break, dude, So you need to know.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Be forced to do it?

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yes? And I love what I do, right? No, no,
you know you guys do that. No, no, no, you
get no. Mine is not a negative. I did not
say that as a negative in any way. And you
guys heard that's the wrong way because you take that
as a negative. Right, we're still processing.

Speaker 7 (07:03):
I love anybody who says seventy five hours a week
that's too much.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
It's not a brag. It's not a flex Some people
have to do. I love what I do. Therefore, if
you love it, you want to get really good at it.
And if you get really good, it's just one to two.
If you love something, you're gonna do a lot. You
know you're passion about, so you can do it a
lot regardless. If you do it a lot, you're gonna
get better at it, and if you get better at it,
you're gonna be rewarded for it. Now, reward doesn't always
have to be money. It could be a lot of stuff, freedom,

(07:28):
it could be fulfillment. But yeah, I think I love.
I love what I do. There are times when I'm
burned out, like mentally. But here's also what I'd like
to say about this. And I tell people if I
like go to colleges or if I'm talking to people online,
it's like, in your twenties, it goes hard as possibly can.
There's no need for balance in your twenties unless you
get somebody pregnant. You gotta have a kid and be

(07:48):
there for the kid or something that happens. Yeah, that
happens in your twenties. That's when you go as hard
as you possibly can. In your thirties you start to gauge, Okay,
what am I doing? What's important? Late thirties then you
start to go, we need to prioritize some of this stuff.
But in your twenty go because you'll be so happy
you did once you get to your thirties. Go on,
let people be like, you know, you need balance. You
might if there are other factors that well.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Also, you'll learn later in life that balance is really
like version. There's more sacrifice.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, balances all sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, because like his parents in the room, we know
like there's where it's like okay, yeah, there's no balance
because sometimes it's like okay, you're choosing work or you're
choosing the kids, and you just have to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
To be perfectly balanced. Is a lot of work.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Everybody acts like there's only so much work if you're
just like working all the time.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
No, there's everything is work.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Everything is sacrificed and whatever you want regardless, great parent,
medium parent, great worker, it's going to take a lot of.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Sacrifice and it'll fluctuate like some weeks I'm a great parent,
another week i am not.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
That's funny. Yeah, if you're in your twenties, go go
as hard as you possibly can.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Let it rip.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Next up, a bear Steals and Malls a Family's Grinch inflatable.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh oh okay, that's good. Yeah, mall decoration hated it
was annoyed by it.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
That's from EPI The Best Christmas Movies Ready to strain
their comedies. You know the number one Christmas movie that
I feel like is often not considered to be a
great and I should say most underrated but still rated.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Okay, is the Santa Claus with Tim Allen so good?

Speaker 4 (09:14):
It's like the and people never put it in like
the top five of Christmas movies. Now, maybe I've only
ever seen like two Christmas movies ever, and that's why
I put it up there. But that's awesome. ELF is great, obviously,
but the Santa Claus is money.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Wouldn't you agree?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah? No, it's it's my favorite, And you're right, and
I've seen a lot of Christmas movies.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I want the Hot Chocolate took her thousands of years
to come up with the recipe, Like let's see, have you.

Speaker 8 (09:34):
Guys not seen the about there's even a TV show
with all of them.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Now, yeah, that'sing that one. But I appreciate you telling
me that.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
National Lampoon's christom Vacation at five, Scrooged at four, ELF
at three, Bad Santa at two, a Christmas Story at one.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Bad Santa with the Billy Bob it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Else is it three?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Because Bad Christmas Story? It makes sense at once. It's
the best, right out kid, The Santa Claus is at eleven. Man,
that's so good.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
It's on Disney.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Plus all these are streaming right now, which is why
they're doing that. And then finally, I have the most
undateable professions. Number ten customer service representatives, often underpaid and
emotionally drained.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
You did this, what did you do?

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I made bank I did sales, I know, but you
like answer the phone for a cable company.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, so we It wasn't cold calling. People would call us,
so it was actually very enjoyable and can I get update?

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
They would just want a basic thing, and then I
would soup them up with every package we possibly had,
and then three months later they call back and complain,
but you still got your bonus. Oh yeah, of course,
yeah yeah. Number nine a chef, unpredictable, long working hours,
high pressure work environment. Number eight a frequent traveler. Well
you know why they're gone. No, yeah, they also could

(10:47):
just have gone.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
They're not all doing that, yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Number seven nightclub worker, you know why? And the number
six a musician or an artist. You know what. That
one though viewed as financially unstable, anything in the art
world is financially unstable, but they're unpredictable.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Schedules.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Five is a lawyer. H four is a social media influencer. Yeah,
that'd be tough.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Because you're just always filming filming them.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Three is an adult entertainer. We know how to put
that on. Hey, that one for sure, that's like Tom.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Number two professional gambler. The number one undtable profession is
a politician. Absolutely not trustworthy, not trustworthy in anyway whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Those are the most undatable professions.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Good luck, everybody, go get them all right, that's the news, Bobby's.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
It's called what are the odds? Like this segment of
three stories? I'm like, what are the freaking odds? This?
Whatever happen?

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Number one Identical strangers with the same jobs and same name.
Let's say it again. Identical strangers with the same job
and same name take DNA tests to discover if they're related.
Two men both named Brady figel fbigl. It's not like
it's Smith or Jones whoa and the first name too,
who look almost identical what they both pitch baseball? It

(12:12):
took a DNA test to see if they were long
lost brothers. Despite their similar appearance and shared profession, they
are not related. Really, same guys and they look I'm
not gonna say identical twin look, but they look like
their brothers. What brothers would look like, same name, same job,
not related. There's somebody out there in the world that

(12:32):
looks so much like you that you're not related to,
because is there only a certain amount of ways that
the human face can be constructured?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
So they found their person. Yeah, but when people send
you a picture of like, someone looks like you, never
really looks like I'm always insulted.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
No one's ever sent me a picture of someone that
looks like me, and I'm like, oh, thank you for
sending that. It makes me feel better about myself. It's
like people only send me the troll version of myself.
And maybe it's not. Maybe it's not the troll version.
Maybe that's what I really look like. No, and maybe
I just am off base. But anytime someone that goes, hey,
I'm in Des Moines, Bobby Belins, are you here? And

(13:04):
they tag somebody and it looks like me if I
got hit with a butt in my face for like
five minutes straight, and you know what, what's unfair about
that is it may not be maybe what I look like,
But when someone says it looks like you.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
It always looks like a bad version of me. Never
has anyone.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Texted like a model like this model looks like you, Bobby?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Or is this you? Are you here?

Speaker 4 (13:25):
And it's like somebody with ripped up abs in a
hard chin and glasses and I'm like, oh no, that's
not me, but thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Usually it's like a it's like sloth from the goonies,
or glasses and hair, so it's just the glass. But
you're right, man, No one ever tags me in somebody
good looking that's like, is this you?

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Or looks just like you?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, it's always like the malnourished twin of the two,
like if somebod's having twins, there's like the one that doesn't.
That's what that's it's that's the me version of it. Anyway,
they're not related. Sorry that really he said one thing.
It triggered me so bad. Yeah, man, crap all.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Time to me.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
So this is a legit what do they call it? Doppelganger?

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah? These two very much.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I mean how do they have the same name, crazy
and the same job, everything, same size? Basically does this
make you think about any kind of like would one
of them cross from some parallel.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
You should you should say we walk, We'll go like a.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
The picture and just walk around real because I don't
know I see it if if.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
I'm them, if they're they're who they are, and they're
single and they're not married, even if they're not gay,
they have to date because it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Tell me that's what I'm saying. Really, the beard, the red.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Beard that both pitched the glass and the glass you
can just put on.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
But yes, yes, wow, same name.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Tell me that ain't crazy exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
A test is lying? Okay? Anyway, Hey, somebody call us.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
You have one of those good stories about you took
the DNA tests and you found something out.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I like those stories. Those are cool.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
My version of that is I took one to twenty
three and me, and every time I do, like like
if I'm doing stand up somewhere, I got like the
third cousin. It's like, hey, I'm here, can I get tickets?
And I'm like, I don't even know who you are.
They're like says twenty three and meter we're related all
because of the DNA and I'm like, I ain't third cousin.
That's like eighth or ninth and most of my family
is one tree. As I've stated before, Arkansas No, non,

(15:25):
Arkansas rude.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
You wanna trigger me again? No, no, no, I'm just joking.
Let's dance.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
No, my mom and her sister, my aunt, mom and
sister married my biological father and his brother. So any
of the kids that happened from there were all like
double cousins. I mean, and yeah, we make out and stuff,
but still no, we don't.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Well, if someone did show up on your at your show,
the neighbor, third, fourth cousin, you could make out with them.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
I'm married.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I thought we determined that, yeah that I'm married. I know,
but let's say you weren't we determined.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
They had to lie like getting in going like because
they will be there and be like, hey, can I
get some ticket?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
The first last for tickets, And I'd be like, I don't.
I don't know who you are.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
But that's that's what you say, Like you're so far removed.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Like let's make out. I'm any video for you, wed.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I'm just saying like we're not close enough to where whatever.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Okay, here's another what are the odds? A man spends
three weeks in jail and the cops mistake calculm powder
for drugs. You're telling me you can't look at that
and put it under the microscope and figure that out
quicker than three weeks.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
And don't they taste it? I don't think.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, I don't think the cops go, we got a
big stash of coke.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Everybody rub it on your gums. I thought they did.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
I thought they do, like some liquid.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
In bags, they start snorting the cocaine to see if I'm.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
But I feel like I've seen on TV they kind.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Of on TV, and that's like a drug age.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
We have somebody in our situation here that is it
was a drug officer. We can ask them during the break, okay,
which that would be different if you're around it all
the time. If you're like a cop and it's a bust,
let me taste that. It's a bunch of heroin. Give
me a needle, guys, shoot me up. Let's see if
this is right.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
It's not. It's a penicillum.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Uh yeah, last October, do you want the story or
do we the Chaco powder story? Yeah, he was stopped
and they found eighteen contenders of tacom powder.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Brow Why you cart eighteen chocopoate on the bus. It
doesn't matter. I don't want to Yeah right, I don't
want to judge you.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
It must be wearing a lot of leather pants and
you gotta travel with them. But they were like, why
do you have all this taco powder? It's like for
personal use, and so they held up for drug possession,
and I mean I would probably hold him to like no, no,
I hear you. Listen to this. I'm gonna say the
headline again. Three weeks okay, we don't the cost tested
the taco powder. They put it on the legs, see
if it would work. That's crazy. Three weeks later, when

(17:48):
the test came back, what is this the A C
T S A T.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's a long too. Those results to come ang time.
Moving on, what are the odds?

Speaker 4 (17:56):
A North Carolina man accidentally went one hundred and seventy
seven thousand dollars is an online lottery game. He was
playing the demo version. He thought it wasn't a demo
He played epic Jackpot. I thought I was playing demo mode.
He thought even one hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars
of demo coins, well, that's cool too. He only played
for one dollar and it wasn't demo coins, it was money.

(18:19):
That's that's from UPI I had some good money last
night betting. I was torn, but you know I get
it yesterday. I'm gonna give you a quick story because
nobody cares on twenty five Whistles our sports show.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
I hope everybody will listen to.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
We had a former commander's coach, Ron Rivera on He's awesome,
super funny. After that, we had my friend zach On.
Zach took fifteen dollars and turned it into twenty nine
thousand dollars. It took him a couple of weeks, but yeah,
he turned it into twenty nine thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
What betting. He bet every last week.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
And again he's not somebody who claims to be a
great better, so it's not like he's like follow my
So he's just like guys, goofballs, right. He bet every
NFL game, just put us one parlay and if one loses,
everybody loses. And he bet like teams that would he
hit every game and it's crazy. So that one alone
only but fifteen bucks and he ended up winning like

(19:17):
ten thousand or something.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Crazy. It was crazy. But he got up just like,
must do something like that. Eddie does it all every week.
He does like a nickel for one hundred games. But
why that's crazy is that hardly ever happens. You never
hit it.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
And I'm a big DraftKings guy. And he comes on
and he had one more bet. It was a parlay
last night. Parlay means multiple games and if one of
the games loses in the parlor, you lose it all.
But if they all hit, you win like extra, like
a bonus. And he was like Cincinnati and I'm over
Dallas money line. I was like, I'm in on that.
I bet way too much. And it was real close
last night, so close, closer than he should have been.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
But we hit. Oh I heard your We already talk
about you being mad at me. Yes, yes, we talked
about that. Okay, because I'm still hearing that I heard.

Speaker 9 (19:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I think we're working.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Out of it all right now. But I'll give you
one to either today or tour. I'm ready draft Kings
it up, baby, but only do it. It's fun like
it should be in its entertainment.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I think that's what I do it for you.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yes, I'm talking to everybody else.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
It doesn't impact me, like I'm not betting so much
that it's impacting me. It makes it more fun and
enjoyable to watch the game, and I'm not losing enough
to where I'm going to get mad about it.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
That's it. If it's fun, you do it. If it's
not fun, you don't do it. If it's like, oh no,
my job, like check my kids. But last night I
lost and the cop was lost, so it wasn't fun.
I did it for fun.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
You bet it was me. You were fading me after that.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
You never do that as friends, And it's a rule
friends never bet against friends, even if but.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
It was nothing. It was Nichols. There's nothing. Eddie went
full fade.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Okay, we're going to talk about the there's been a
there's been a conspiratle development in the guy who shot
the CEO.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
What's the conspiracy part?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I saw the news.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
It's more than the news, something you put online and
he put up a tick. So we'll talk about that, which,
by the way, this guy's Ivy League graduate valedictorian we'll
talk about in a second. Had more abs than I've
ever had. Did you see him with a shirt off
in a backpack on.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
His parents own a bunch of country clubs.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Did you see him with all that fun? You see
him the shirt off in the backpack, that's what you're
It's unbelievable. Did you see his sister, no smoke show,
good look a family?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh man, you gotts see all that.

Speaker 7 (21:23):
Oh it's her on the beach in bikini and I'm like, wow.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Why is that online?

Speaker 7 (21:28):
Because it's a picture of him and her, And of
course they find that one.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
He's so ripped. Okay, thanks whole thing. Yeah, that thing's
just terrible. It's terrible.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, I mean he's really good looking.
If I was that good looking, I would do nothing wrong.
I'll just walk around shirtless, no crimes.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
You know. He had a book club and that some
people were like, uh, we're gonna go ahead and bow
out some of the content he wanted to read and
stuff he wanted to talk about. They're like, I think
we're good. This book stuff is a little it was
kind of freaking out, so they didn't want to be
a part of it.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's about what protein to eat for abs because I
don't think.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Okay, back in a second, I was shocked to say
they caught the guy yesterday got the shot the ceo
in New York City. I was shocked too that he
was just chilling at a McDonald's with all of his
stuff in his bag. And I was like, well, that
seems weird. Why would you have this stuff? It almost
felt like he wanted to be caught.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
I mean, I'm right, it feels like.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Like you wanted to be got.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
And did he tell.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
The McDonald's guy, hey, you might want to call the
police because if he walked into here I wouldn't recognize him.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
The woman some picture of his face had been released. Nah,
I guess still even mostly eyes. But she I think
it was a woman who was working there was the
one that called. And they're saying she's a hero. So
let me read you some stuff before we go all
cockumining with theories.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
And also why was he okay? Yeah, read the thing
that like, why was he only three hours away?

Speaker 1 (22:51):
For five days?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah for sure?

Speaker 4 (22:54):
And McDonald chilling and that he had stuff with him
for five days. The man who killed a health insurance
ceo and a mean Manattan Street seemed to have vanished
yesterday morning. A McDonald's employee Altuna, Pennsylvania notices a familiar
looking young man eating a meal called police. Two officers arrived,
as the man if he'd been to New York recently,
he became quiet, and then he started to shake. The man,
twenty six year old Luigi Mangione, appeared to be the

(23:17):
one they'd been searching for. In his backpack, he had
a gun, a silencer, a manifesto why you would go
to a man to keep reading First surveillance. McDonald's employee
called police after recognizing from images that the police had released.
The police were able to get those images, including ones
with a suspect of Peter that a mask, by coming

(23:38):
through hundreds of hours of camera footage from streets, in
a hostel and a taxi cab. A lot of this
stuff you're already gonna know. Here's what we know about him.
He comes from a privileged life. He was a high
school valedictorian. That's hard to work. I wouldn't say that
part's privilege, but okay.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Id a like Rellian, prestigious all male boys, all male school.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
If you're a Alledctorian mounta Pine High school that was
still prestigious.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yes so that but yeah, ivyy graduate.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think he went to Penn he was from a
prominent family in the Baltimore area. They own country clubs,
not even members of country clubs. They own country clubs.
Are they own a nursing home company at talk radio station?
People who knew MANNGI owned because he oh, his cousin
is a Republican state delegate in Maryland. As a cousin though, yeah,

(24:28):
so I mean the family listen. I often say politicians
are just rich people who get bored or want want fame.
I'm not sure if they're that kind of fits that though, right,
rich person. People who knew mansion in Hawaii, where he
lived recently, said he suffered a debilitating back pain and
had undergone several surgeries. He fell out of contact with
his friends and family. He had a robust online presence

(24:50):
on good Reads, where he uses rate books. He gave
a review of the Unibomber's Manifesto, So that's kind of that.
What was weird to me was that he still had
everything with him and he was just eating in a McDonald's,
like a couple of things. One you just gonna go
to McDonalds by yourself in chill pretty close in the region.
When he like took a bus from Atlanta, EASi to

(25:11):
take a bus back to Atlanta, Dallas, Arizona, get the
crap out of town. Secondly, he had his gun with
him with a silence or don't you get rid of
that somewhere, you would think, right. So I'm glad they
got him because he murdered somebody in cold blood. Absolutely,

(25:32):
we cannot do that. It's a little somethings a little
weird about it all. Either he wanted to be caught,
which Morgan and I were talking before we came on
about this video that we both saw the video this
morning and it was about something he had put up
on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Right.

Speaker 8 (25:47):
Yeah, he has a whole YouTube channel where there was
a countdown clock. The countdown clock turns off and on
the screen it reads all is scheduled and then in
the corner like an Easter Eggs is December eleven, which tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
And then apparently.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
Another video was supposed to be uploaded, but his YouTube
channel got like shut down, So I don't know if
this video that's supposed to come out tomorrow is happening.
But also in his like bio on YouTube, the photo
he has is him holding a McDonald's happy meal.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Weird.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, that part.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
I saw that, and I did not put that together
that that's where they also got him.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, he's like the Golden Arches and the little Yeah.
So I do feel like.

Speaker 8 (26:27):
If this is legit his channel and that this is
all something that he's planned out in some former fashion.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
He's also a very smart guy, right He again high school.
Valukatorian went to an Ivy League university. There were some
people saying that his back hurt him so bad, there
was some spinal issues that he was kind of tripping
a bit at times.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh yeah, I could see how that could change you
and depending on what medications you're on and.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Other than the news story I read at the very beginning.
At this point, we're just all speculating, yeah, because we're
not going to come on and claim. Sometimes people they're
for sure about stuff on TikTok and I believe them.
Then I found out they didn't. They weren' sure at all.
Lunch block sides, man, I find it so weird.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
So what was the backpack in Central Park that we've
been they've been talking about.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
On the news.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Two things, Either one a dummy backpack that somebody else
had put out, or was it even the same and
we had a backpack. But was it the same backpack
because he could have had a different backpack with him
with all with this gun and silenceer and stuff, because
I don't know that I read that it was the
same exact backpack.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
Right, but they were linking it to him, saying it
had monopoly money in it.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
And there was that backpack, Yes, I'm talking about the
one he was wearing when he got busted.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I don't know that saly.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
He planted one in Central Park and that.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
The money had on in Central Park. But I think
he had one with him and McDonalds had the other
stuff in it. I don't think it was the same backpack,
but I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
And then his family said he went mi i A.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
They even reported and missing in November, like they hadn't
heard from him, Like he just went off the radar.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
Like he just was gone.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
And if you have three days to get away, I
think you'd go further than altun Apar.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
No, we didn't think he'd be anywhere near New York City.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh, I didn't you know the autoo somehow he was
so smart out of the country Mexico man.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
The crazy thing on that video too, is it the
countdown started when it says if you're seeing this, I'm arrested,
like he intentionally so.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Is somebody then running the countdown for him that page
and was able to go He got got because he
wanted to get got therefore hit the button.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Because there are times where people.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Will go and I've seen I mean, I've mostly just
seen this in TV shows and movies where they're like,
if you kill me, I've got like packages of going
to all the newspapers and all the outlets, so go
ahead and kill me. But it's a trigger. So maybe
he had somebody that or maybe in a lot, but
that's it. I couldn't believe you e lasted this long
with that get caught. Secondly, you just don't see people

(28:51):
that come from privilege, both financially and physically, like he
was a great looking kid, had a bunch of money
do something like this unless I mean, I was very smart,
very smart, Unless they're to him, there's something more macro
about it than micro.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
You got anything else I'm just thinking about.

Speaker 8 (29:13):
I just mean, from like a YouTube perspective, there isn't
a way somebody had to push that button. There's a
way to schedule things and publish them at a certain time,
but there isn't a way to schedule them, like on
an arrest, you know what I mean, Like somebody had
to push the buttons that.

Speaker 10 (29:29):
Count down, Like was it accurate to the like to
the point I.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Don't know if it was too exactly the point I
don't time he was arrested, but he could have said
it and then kind of know to McDonald's and like
today I'm gonna get caught because that's the purpose of.

Speaker 8 (29:42):
Today and that he could have done, like this is
going to be published in an hour and I'm going
to make somebody see me.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
And what's now we just have to wait till December.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
But we're never going to know. If they don't want
us to know, we're never going to know. They're not
telling us about Epstein stuff. You know, who knows what
we'll know about the ditty stuff the government doesn't want
us know stuff they'll lie to us, or they'll say
other stuff to throw us off, or we'll just never know.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
So it just kind of depends what they what they now.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
I'm saying pictures of like other the guy in the
mask and like little facial things about him, that doesn't
match this guy. And I'm not saying that's the same
but they're like, look at his nose and his bridge
and how close his eyebrows are.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
This is not the same guy. I'm not saying it's
not the same guy.

Speaker 10 (30:18):
Did they come out and say that this is the
guy or finally suspect Okay, finally they did say they
they arrested him, yes.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Because of the And I think that was one of
the questions, like how is this all happening like so quickly,
And it's because of whatever he used to check into
the hostel. He had on him that same identification, okay,
and he had IDs on him that was the fake
in the gun. Yeah, ah that Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:42):
They said that the YouTube channels he has not posted
on seven months. The other one was an impersonator and
they removed that. Also, that's what investigators are.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Saying or what is it not? Because again, too much
they can just say, they just say crap.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
They were on Monday. They were updated and changed to
that his handle after he was arrested.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
So okay, but how would they have a photo of
him with a happy meal out.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Of McDonald's social media.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
No, no, But I'm saying he's holding the photo, and
then he gets arrested at McDonald's. She's saying that those
two things. Is that the weirdest coincidence ever?

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, Honestly, when I first thought, I was like, God,
this guy likes McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
But also it's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
But against a happy mal too, like will rob an
adult to be holding up a happy mail. Yeah, there's
a lot to it. We're only gonna know what they
want us to know. Sucks somebody to get killed for it.
Somebody says, I'm back there. It's crazy, it's good wild
you always have.

Speaker 11 (31:37):
Like my theory was I got thrown off because I'm
in a group text, the one that you're not in,
and Lunchbox sent a link and it says, let's talk
about his sister, And it's like a picture of her
and a bikini and her moves showing I'm like, all right, Lunchbox.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
That's where he wanted to go.

Speaker 7 (31:53):
Like if the family saw him, they saw the pictures
on the news, they had to see it.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
It was everywhere.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
Did they call in and say, hey, that's my Do
you think they just said, I'm going to be silent
If they catch him, they catch him, that's what I
started thinking, like, you're deflecting what my question was.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, but they're not going to tell us that as
it's happening. They could at some point tell us that,
but they're not going to say, yeah, they called us
and we're looking for him.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I mean, we would have to hope. So with as
viral as that was, you would think his family or
somebody they maybe had been placed in calls, but we
just maybe wouldn't know about it. I mean because what
we y'all would call right away if that was your kid, right.

Speaker 10 (32:33):
I think so, right, like especially if I haven't seen them,
and I probably already like did a missing person's report.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I don't have a kid, so nope, wouldn't tell.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
But you know what, maybe not. I mean there are
some families they just try to if you.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Have a bunch of money, like like the Fix and
you have. And also it's like your family that's a politician.
You could look bad on a you know, politicians are
they'll do anything.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well, I'm going to assume the best for the time being.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
So that's what we know, which is not a lot.
We read the story, then we speculated for ten minutest.
Welcome to the show, but he only went three hours
away there, it's weird in the fact that he still
had the same gun on him. That all that's weird,
and the manifesto saying, I'm the only one that's weird.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
I'm gonna save you the time. I'm the only I've
I acted alone. I had no help. I'm going to
die soon, I think.

Speaker 11 (33:18):
But he has some sort of disease or issue, and
that's why he's so pissed off and upset about the
insurance company.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
He's gonna die. So it feels like he's gonna die
like I've been so much.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
That's different though, like hurting so bad and gonna die
soon or two different things.

Speaker 11 (33:32):
Well, you meet, you could be in so much pain,
you could be debilitating pain where you're like, I just
don't want to live anymore. But before I go, I'm
going to get this jerk out for whatever he did
to me and made my life difficult, whether it be
some sort of insurance related issues or not getting the
proper care whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
The YouTube, but that but that guy specifically didn't do
anything to him right, right, but the company maybe, And
so he sees him as the person like you call
somewhere like who's your manager, And he found out who
the manager of the manager was, he's, well, I'm going
after that guy.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
It just makes me sick to my stomach. Of certain
people online, like the news is even covering like the
dark part of the web. We're like, oh, this guy's
a hero because of insurance. They're taking care of it.
And it's like, no, this guy is the.

Speaker 7 (34:08):
Problem with corporate greed and all.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
This, and we can't mask this way.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
And by the way, however, he grew up the corporate
people that made a bunch of money or what spent
money at his family's business that had him. So that's
just so sad.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
Oh well, I mean, I just think, like he's an
avid outdoorsman.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
Why he didn't just go out in the wilderness.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Maybe he was done. He wanted to get caught.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Again, I think Bobby's I think he wanted to get caught.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Listen. I never thought it was a professional killer. I
said that.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I thought it was just somebody who knew how to
use a gun. He I felt like, you wanted to
get caught. He set it up where he's just like
I'm done, I'm gonna get caught. Hey, maybe they got
better insurance than jail. Think about it.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I mean, that's a real thing. Possibly he's rich, but
that's what I'm saying. He's rich like insurance.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Well sometimes just because your parents are rich doesn't mean
you have all the money.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah kind of.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Or you maybe or if you're against corporate Greek maybe
he like he distanced himself extremely and he didn't want
to take any of their money.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
You only use his trust fund, so taking I don't know,
Bobby Bone show up today.

Speaker 7 (35:10):
This story comes to us from England. A forty three
year old man was wanted by police. He skipped out
on his veil, didn't show up for court, so they
posted his mugshot saying hey, if you see this guy,
you know, let us know. And it was a real
bad picture. Is when he was hungover and he saw
it and he contacted police said hey that mugshot.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
I was hung over.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Here's a better picture and it's him on the beach.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
And they used the beach and they were able to
locate him a week later.

Speaker 12 (35:36):
Oh my gosh, because there mugshots, man, they're ugly, but
they actually he actually sent a picture from where he
was currently too.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
It's not even it's like I got through mine. There's
like a good one in Vegas, a good one in California.
Never from where I am right then, all.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Right, good one. I'm lunchbox.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
That's your bonehead story of the day.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
It's Tuesday Reviews Day.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
I reviewed a show called Black Doves four and a
half out of five on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Mike didd a y two K movie. What'd you give it?

Speaker 9 (36:02):
Gread of five?

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Amy not able to watch anything yet?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, I'm watching. I'm just not done right, so I
can't give a full review.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
No soft reviews. That's right, because we started something new
as well. It's pretty good? Is it to show the
agency on Paramount Plus?

Speaker 2 (36:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Okay, okay. Tuesday Reviews Day, Eddie.

Speaker 12 (36:19):
I went to the movie theater, the actual movie theater,
and I watched Malwana two within my Family.

Speaker 9 (36:24):
And here's the thing. I love mo Wana one. I
love the beach. It's all about beach life.

Speaker 12 (36:29):
This girl she's like she's there to save her whole tribe.

Speaker 9 (36:33):
Maana too.

Speaker 12 (36:34):
Man, it's not good like I wanted to like it,
but it's not good. The songs aren't as good. The
first one has great songs, this one not so much.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
But did you think the songs in the first one
were great the first time you heard them?

Speaker 9 (36:46):
Yeah? Or can I say except You're welcome? Yes, dude,
it's awesome.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Did you feel that way though? After the songs became
kind of a cult phenomenon.

Speaker 9 (36:57):
No, after I watched the movie the first time.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Do you watch Monitor? Yeah, it's because Linna Manuel Miranda
didn't do the music in this movie.

Speaker 9 (37:03):
He did it in the first one.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
He's working on the Lion King, so they had someone
else take over.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Why can I think of like Scott Storche or something.
Do you remember Scott Storge? Scott Steorge like he did?
Never mind, Hey, that's one of the jokes.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 9 (37:18):
So I'm gonna give it three coconuts out of five.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Good. It's made so much money, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (37:24):
Because people win rand Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, Morgan.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (37:27):
I finished season two of Lioness on Paramount Plus.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
You like that show? Oh my gosh, I'm so obsessed
with it. And it's just so action packed.

Speaker 8 (37:36):
And Zoe Sedona is so good in it.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
It's just really good.

Speaker 9 (37:39):
Zoe Soldania get hate on her.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
We know, we all.

Speaker 9 (37:46):
Knew.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Everybody knew what she was saying. Maybe not they did
they did lunchwalks?

Speaker 7 (37:52):
Oh yeah, I watched this show called Squid Games.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
I've been telling everybody the whole world is the greatest
show ever for two years point.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Right now, Oh my god, I want to remind people
of this is a live show.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, yeah, today, that is intense.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
First of all, I thought it was a reality show.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Well, there is a game show they made afterward with
real people, but they didn't kill them.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
Well, I had no idea going in.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I thought it was a reality show.

Speaker 7 (38:18):
And then it starts out it's not a reality show,
and oh my gosh, I had no idea what was
going to happen.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
And I was just like, it.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Is maybe the best show of all time, dude. I've
been saying this for two years.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
It is unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (38:34):
Like I started it on Thanksgiving, we were all trying
to come to a conclusion what to watch. We watched
that first episode and the family left town and I
looked at my wife and I was like, we gotta
finish this, and that is I mean, we've been It
was unreal.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Did you watch it subtitles written out and them speaking
in English or them speaking in Koreean with subtitles.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
No, we watched them with English. Just that's it.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
They were just talking English. Subtitles.

Speaker 7 (38:59):
Yeah, I kept going I thought there were subtitles on this,
but I didn't never know how to change it. I
literally just hit play and they were talking English.

Speaker 9 (39:09):
Yeah there's a menu, but yeah, it's the whole thing.

Speaker 7 (39:11):
You just hit Guys, let me tell you drop whatever
you're doing. This show will take you all over the
map like highs, lows, every I mean, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
It sounds like you're telling us to get on this
new app called TikTok.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
But yes, it's awesome.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Squid Game Game Season two premiere's December twenty sixth, So
you know, look, I've been waiting two years to the
stupid thing.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Oh yeah, it's good.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
By the way, Scott Stort just so everybody knows, it's
always fun to let people in on what's up.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
He is a producer.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
He has produced stuff Beyonce's Baby Boy, Terar Squads, Leaned Back,
fifty Cents, Candy Shop, Marios, Let Me Love You, Chris
Brown's Run It.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
He's been nominated for eight Grammy Awards.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
Thing. Yeah so he should have done, moaned tot Storch.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Say his name up in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
All right, thank you very much by Everyboddy the Bone Show.
The Bobby Bones Show theme song, written, produced and sang
by Reid Yarberry. You can find his instagram at Red Yarberry,
Scuba Steve Executive producer, Ray Mundo, Head of Production.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I'm Bobby Bones. My instagram is mister Bobby Bones. Thank
you for listening to the podcast.
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