#443 - Coyote

Interview with Coyote on The Bootleg Kev Podcast.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, Man, Boulet Cap Podcast special guests in here,
Coyote here.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cracking.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Are you guys coyote for hire officially? Now?

Speaker 3 (00:11):
I think so, Man, because you become for googling, well
for listen, for Google reasons.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I feel like when I Google coyote a lot of
other things, like as you know, the search engine optimization,
that's your purposes only. I feel like you guys should
go with the coyote for higher h.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
I feel like people knows for that. People shout us
out for that, and we don't shot away from it.
Our record label is Coyote for Hire. But we're still Coyote.
You know why we're still Coyote because I heard Pitbull say.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Some real shit.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
He was like, you know what, I know I made
it when pit Bull came above the and the dog
when he when you.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Google, that's true, you know what that's true?

Speaker 5 (00:51):
So you guys at least can see what hey, when
you google pit Bull, the dog don't come up, you guys.
You guys have your goal set.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, so that's what I was saying. That's finish line.
But I like Coyote for a little ring to it,
you know what I'm saying? A little abbreviation as well.
See four h.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
You can play with that.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Calls whatever you want. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
People, by the fault, you become your Instagram handle by
the fall.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, for sure, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
So but when you look us up on Spotify and ship,
it's just Coyote. But the record label that releases all
our music is Coyote for Hire, So I think we
pop up even though someone try to take that name too.
And now artists called Coyote for Hire that pops up
on our ship, and I'm trying to fucking figure.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
They might have strate strategically did that to get us
to give them some money or something and buy her
fucking name back.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
You know what happens a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
They be dropping music too, and they drop music, then
they're just fucking they're just biting.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah exactly. But we'll find them, is what it is.
And all the time we'll find you and we'll kill you.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Allegedly we're Coyote. Coyote man. Two of us are fucking idiots.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I really like the Yode's.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I've been trying to push the change Coyote to the Yotis.
But you know coyote represents it's two of us, and
it represents one of us, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
So, yeah, you guys a few different fucking AKA.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
The thing was like, you know, when you hear Queen,
it's like singular.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
I mean it's singular, and it's like all these great
Linn Park, Lincoln Park. So it's like when you see him,
you see me, when you see me, you see him
mob deep Yeah exactly, Well yeah, mob I gus gang stars.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
They didn't call the gang stars exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
It fucking irks me when motherfuckers called us the coyotes.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I'm like, what, don't add an S to it?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Man, If you're gonna say you're gonna add the s,
just say the Yodi's.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
I got to say, I'm super proud of you guys, man,
because talking to you a lot about yeah, in the
last couple of years, your journey and yeah, checking in
everyone you.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Hated us when you first met us, so you know
what I mean, both no, but I with y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
I remember like telling him, like when you guys came out,
I was like, man, this dude's got like a fucking
sick ass.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Look like this song just sucks.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, shout out the head too, man. He just shouted
us out not too long ago. He said, everything we've
been doing for the past twelve months is fucking fire.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
You know, bullshit, and you.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Know it means a lot coming from Head. He's a
tough fucking critic, you know what.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Let me say one thing, bro, when it comes I'm
gonna give Kevis flowers when it comes to this Mexican
rap shit.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
This anyone talking about Mexicans.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
The only person whoever brings us up in every conversation
or at least several that I've heard in the media's keV.
In the media spaces bootlet keV. Motherfuckers can't bring up
Mexican rappers and keV don't throw our name in there, bro.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
So for that, because Kevin knows what's up. Man.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
You already know he's a true hip hop head and shit.
So man, he's always showing us love and you know
it's gonna be away.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
You guys are joke, man, And like you know, I
always use you guys as an example now because I
have like upcoming artists coming up here or they'll be
recording in the studio and then like if I walk
by the like, hey, you got any game, and I'll
be like, man, you know, like at the end of
the day, bro, like what you guys are doing with
like freestyles and just like yeah, fucking putting up using
cap cut and putting your lyrics like you know, like

(04:05):
at the end of the day, everybody's got an excuse
for why, Well, I don't have a content guy, or
I don't have someone to shoot this shit, or I
don't have this like bitch, you got an iPhone in
your pocket.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
So either you apply yourself enough to figure out how
to fucking do shit on your own, because I remember
you and I were talking and you're like, Bro, I'll
just find a cool spot, you set up the.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Phone and record, and then I'll edit it and then
it's up. And then anytime you guys have ever come
on my show, you're very adamant about, like, Yo, send
me the raw shit so I can put the lyrics
on it, so I can click it up myself.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
And we started that way.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Man.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Now, if you're on Instagram, and if now you're go
on Instagram, there's a lot of motherfuckers that are doing
that little formula that we were doing back then. Now
we're switching it up, you know, because you can't. You
can't be a fucking a single trick pony and shit.
But you know what I mean, we damn near inspired
a whole little wave of people.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Trying to do that formula. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
There's a track record, you can find it. I guarantee
if we're not the first, we're one of the first
to take that real form just with iPhone, single shot,
semi creative and put the lyrics in it, and it
started working for us. The thing is when it starts working,
then it comes becomes easily duplicated. Sure, and we gave
a lot of people the game. A lot of homies
were hitting us up. I won't say names like we

(05:16):
do my artist elections.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I remember I was like, bro like, and you should
do that because we have eight billion people on the phone.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Your job is to just find them. So that's why
I say getting best for us, when we got best
was the best thing that could have ever happened to
us because we knew we were those guys. So because
we had a chip on our shoulder, we're like, man,
fuck that, like We're gonna prove to them we are
those guys, and the only way to prove it was
to attack the Internet. And because we were on our

(05:46):
ass and we couldn't drop music, we just were forced
to get creative.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Well, I want to talk about that because obviously, like
I'm very hip to your guys's journey with whatever's going
on in the background. But for people who don't know,
you know, a lot of people were introduced to you
through being.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Signed to Whack. Yeah, right, shot to Whack. Whack's my guy.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Give people kind of a breakdown because you guys are
currently not with Whack anymore.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Correct, we are not so whack. Essentially, he found us
when we were just an idea. We had just created Coyote,
like two months prior, and we shot two videos, which
was Viva Mexico and one that never came out, and
it got into Wax's hands and he's like, oh, well,
it got into a lot of people's hands, a lot
of labels, and they were all interested, but of course

(06:29):
they wanted to see logistics, what the numbers were like,
and they're like, well, it's just an idea, it doesn't exist.
Whack liked that it didn't exist, and he's like, fuck it,
we'll take you from the ground up. Blah blah blah.
So within two months of inception, we were signed to
Whack and we were on tour with Blue Face and
he put he put his money where his mouth. Us
put a check in our in our bank account, first

(06:50):
big check as rappers, and that's pretty tight, right yeah.
But then twenty twenty happened, So that was late twenty nineteen.
Twenty twenty happened. It started off eight we were on
tour with Game all over Europe, killing it, you know
what I'm saying, And then we come back to the
world being shut down, which in turn led to us
being benched. And then when we got benched, we kind

(07:15):
of just decided to take matters into our own hands
and we started moving independently even though we were signed
and WAC never stopped it. Soul shut out to him,
and then we really stepped on the gas twenty twenty two,
and then as of last year, it started gaining a
lot of momntums. So naturally he was calling because you know,
he put some money in our pocket, and we just

(07:37):
made it right with him. We're like, what's your number?
He said his number, We gave it to him, and
it's all up, bro, he caused the phone. I'll still
answer vice versa.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
So you guys, essentially, you guys bought your contract.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, yeah, we pretty much brought ourselves out of our contract,
you know, just trying to make the business right, because
you know, this is a fucking just the music business.
So not trying to leave any bad blood or whatever.
But we just had to do what was right for
us because we were already moving independent. So it was
like we might as well be independent, Like why are
we still pigeonholding to this you know what I mean,
this contract? So you know what I mean, We just

(08:11):
had to make it right. We made it right, and
now bet on yourself exactly, bet.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
On yourself and shout out to him because he never
blocked us when we were because we were releasing on
DSPs and all that, and he kind of let us
do our thing even when we were contractually.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
On his shine.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
He could have been like, hey, y'all ain't putting that
music if it in through one percent.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
So he kept the solid. So when he named his price,
we kept the solid right back. And it's still all
ve man, but as of twenty twenty four, we've been independent.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Congratulations man, Thank you man, thank you man.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
And ever since then, man, we've been moving and doing
cool shit. And the more shit we do, the more
shit happens. So like, fucking like, I'm excited to what
the future is going to hold for us, because man,
we finally got the ball rolling.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
We're growing every fucking day for sure.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Give me for people who don't know, Like, obviously you
kind of gave us a quick You guys created the
group not long ago.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I mean it's what five years ago?

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, about five years ago.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
You guys were cutting hair.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we own a barbershop on Melrose.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
You guys still got the barbershop.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, okay, yeah, give me the background of like, because
because obviously that's kind of crazy, you.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Know, like, let's rap.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah yeah, so, well, we were already rapping before that.
We've been in many factions, you know, we've been rapping
for a long time.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Then we met Marcus.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Black I don't know if you know Black, course, Yeah,
and we met him at our Bark relationship Google.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, exactly exactly. One of the sicks in the game
for so great guy.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Pen Game's crazy games are crazy, super crazy. One of
the few people that I feel like Drake stole his
whole flow and just ran with it.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I mean a little bit.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
You never heard Marcus Black before Drake, No, not before Drake.
He sounds like Drake, except.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
I've heard it. I've heard him obviously, I've heard it ship,
you know.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Like, and there's some little insight that would kind of
solidify that, but whatever, I don't know, that's all hear saved, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
But but he's fucking an animal.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
He's one of the few people that I take his
insight when it comes to my bars, if he feels
I could have done better.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
So anyways, when he came.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
To our shop, he was the first to really tell
us like, hey, you guys are dope, but you don't
have no branding. You're not you're not going hard enough.
He's like, so, you guys are just dope. But he's like,
if I would just being dope enough, And I kind
of was like, it kind of irked.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Me even at the time.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
But then that's when my brother came up with the
idea of rebranding, and he came up with Coyote because
we were going through something.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
I got all the genius ideas we're going through something
personally too that that just makes this guy takes credit
for him.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
No, but you know what coyote is right obviously. Yeah,
And at the time our pops was deported and Marcus
was like, everything I gotta do should be subtly, like
with what's going on in your life with like y'all Mexican,
that's really all superpower. He's like, so everything down to
your names should be even if it's subtle, it should

(11:09):
be kind of all time in together for trying to
put it put your culture.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
On our back.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Is your dad back?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Huh No?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
No, damn.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Where in Mexico's living. He's in TJ. So he stays close,
you know what I'm saying. So we could go over
there and go back and forth taking lunch.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Was at the Dennis last week. I was I had
to get my crown reattached. Did you ever go to
Lionfish and TJ? I don't know the restaurant in the world.
It's like, uh seafood, oh my god, yeah, busting for sure.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
The tackles by his house, all the tagos are fire
out there.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
So so he's still in TJ. So he's not far
so you know, it's not like at least that's good.
How often you guys go back.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And see him pretty often?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Now? Yeah? Pretty often?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Probably like ship every day?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, I don't know every day we see him every day?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Oh yeah Chinese fluid, So Chinese food is great over there.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
But yeah, shout out to my pops.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Man.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
He he don't even know he was the inspiration for
the name, and he used to hate that we rapped,
but he's starting to get it.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Are you, like, do you like show him ship? Like, Dad, Look,
we have a song with Shaq.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah, I mean, like everybody knows who Shack is, Like.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Like, I mean, I feel like a lot of our
family members were like, damn, what the fuck Shaquille Neil,
this is really possible, Like y'a already doing this ship
And we even have cousins that were artists and stuff,
and like we're inspiring them to like get back into it,
which is kind of cool to watch, you know, but
it's like, you don't want to do this, man, get
the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
It looks better than what it.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Really is, but it looks better than the feelds we've
inspired My dad.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Did you see the Poto video? So he was the
one with Mario Lopez.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, we had yeah, yeah, we had his song playing
in the beginning, and then we did a real, real
form the real ship that we do. We had him
playing the guitar, singing a song that he did in
one take, which was pretty fucking impressive, and we just, uh,
he was singing in front of a campfire with his
guitar and we're just chilling to promote that bultchoal rollout

(13:20):
and it.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Came out pretty fire.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
And then once we posted it, he seen he got
like fifteen hundred likes or something like that.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
He was.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
He was like, he's like, he was like, wait till
I give him that next one. And I'm like, what,
ain't no next one?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Get here? Start your own page.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
But that's gonna be the altro to our album. Is
my dad's song.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh that's fire.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
So he did that one take, bro, because I wanted
him to sing them I'm throwing it on netas, but.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
He couldn't get it.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
And then I was like, I was like, bro, just
give me a song, you know, like the back of
your hand, right, And I just pressed record one, took
it and you could hear it at the end of
the recording and I'm like, that's the one. That's the one,
and I just stopped it. He killed it, So it's
gonna be we might have him on all of our
album as trust Fire.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I love the video because you guys have like Concrete.
Kemp Flores was in here.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Just trying to incorporate the culture. Man.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
By the way, I think Concrete is one of the
most ridiculously hilarious human being.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
That fucking you don't even you don't even got to
like say anything like this motherfucker just makes facial.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Express skis have gotten over the years. And then I
just saw I never seen him do stand up. I
know he's been blowing up doing stand up. He's not
doing him for a while. And I saw him the
other night at the Haha Club in North Hollywood, and
this motherfucker had me leaking out of my face, but
I was dead.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Bro, future Goat go or future Legend. He's already he's
gonna do.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
He gotta do movies, bro, like he got to write.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
He's a good actor. We had Kemp Floors on there too.
He's fucking.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
To stand up. Yeah, just he's gonna be on the
podcast soon.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I saw you saw he's funny as we're supposed to
have him on the video too. With that fool got
to Hollywood is blowing up now He's like, man, I
go through my agent.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Really, he just couldn't made Mario Lopez. By the way,
what happened?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Man?

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Just internet fan of a fan. That's what it is, man,
the Internet.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Man.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Like I said earlier, Man, you do cool ship and
more cool shit fucking happens. And for motherfuckers like me
and my bro, you know what I'm saying. First generation
Mexican American Mario Lopez was like one of the first
guys that we seen, like say, by the bet, I
didn't even know he was Mexican. At first, I thought
he was like agent or something.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
But then when.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I found out he was fucking Mexican, all that's pretty cool.
Like we have a space here, you know, in Hollywood
type ship, and.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
He wrapped us the right way, like motherfucker. You know,
always kept making sure he looked good.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
You look good.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Were usually portrayed as fat, fat ass taco eating motherfucker,
and he was like looking good and ship. I don't
know what he'd be doing, bro, motherfucker, don't eat no sugar.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Since I was a kid.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
He was like one of the first proper representations of latinos.
So when he reached out to us, like we weren't
just gonna let it be like oh, he gave us props.
Oh this is cool. So we immediately are our head
starts rolling like all right, how.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Can we and DMUs like, man, you guys are fucking badass.
I love what you guys are doing. And we're already
thinking like, oh you think we're badass, we'll come out
to a video.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Then.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah, it was like a serious production produced by us too.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Shout out to Marmos and Yody Productions.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Are you guys directing all your own ship? Co direct? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Co directing? Damn here you know you.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Guys got this videos out right now? Yeah you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, first man, Yeah, we just all get together and
just kind of just start throwing things at the wall,
spitball in and then like whenever we picked something up,
we just start running with it and just start treading
idea his back, and so.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
We pretty much pitch it tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
We didn't even have a song yet, bro, but we're
just like, yo, we got this idea, which was that
Western idea I sent them the Desperado You ever seen
that esproto of course when Steve he's at the bar
and he sang, fucking course the biggest Mexican I ever seen, bro.
And then we then we incorporated the Selena's dad in

(17:10):
the movie. So I pretty much pitched him the whole
fucking bit. It took him like three weeks to respond,
but once she responded, he's like, man, I'm fucking in.
And what we do with those type of guys him Shack,
We pretty much structure the whole shoot around them.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
You kind of have to their availabilities. Whenever you're available,
we'll make it work. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, he has to do that with me too, Like
he has to like structure it around me because I'll
be like, yeah, Shack.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I just tell this motherfucker where to be. But I'm like,
this motherfucker's fucking day to day too, Dawn there.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, man, he gave us a date.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
And then boom, now we're like said, now we need
a song because we didn't have a song. We made
this song like a week or two before we were
already shooting the video.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Wow. So so that song was recorded after you knew
he was down to this.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
We had two potential songs, but we both He wasn't
sold on one and I wasn't sold on the other.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
So then I was like, A, then we got to
make something else.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
And then last minute we got Magic on it, MC
Magic on it, and then you know, we got the
whole cast legend, the legend shout up, where are you from?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Phoenix?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Phoenix?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Right there? It is, Yes, my bro, I notice sounds
a kid there.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Were going to tap in with Magic tomorrow. We're flying
out the Houston. We're going on the video there headsweek.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
We going to Houston tomorrow to shoot a song with
Mexican O t N, MC Magic and the Yodis. So
we're just tomorrow tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Yeah, ship, I just got invited by OT's dad to
go back out there to shoot hogs this week.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
This week when pull up tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
I got a fucking interview. I got a money back
yo interview on fucking Wednesday. That's tomorrow, tomorrow, Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, how many days you out there just in and out?
No man?

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Magic literally hit us up yesterday midday and I was like, damn,
like we I mean, it's terrible timing, but yes, like
fuck it will be there you know what I'm saying.
So we're gonna be up there some more legendary ship.
We got that be Real ship. I don't know when
this is gonna drop, but I.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Saw the be Real uh trailer look sick.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
You video is awesome. Shout out to be Real man, Like,
We're just it's crazy. We're in this space now where
we're kind of like rubbing shoulders with people that we
grew up admiring and they have a similar admiration to us,
and it's kind of like, uh, hard to grab some time.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
What I think like too, is like you know, like, uh,
I don't like the I've never liked like when you
just box people in on their race, like when people
say like, yo, you're a dope Mexican rapper. Like someone
asked me, uh, I did a podcast yesterday and they were.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Just like, who's Like, who's the dope rapper from LA?

Speaker 5 (19:47):
I mentioned you guys, I think I met, I mentioned
I mentioned Ruccie, but I was like, I like Lefty,
you know he's entertaining, but I wasn't like for a
Mexican guy, you know what I'm saying, Like yeah, and
I feel like, you know you guys as our MC's
happened to be Mexican, and I kind of look at
like OT that way, and I look at like super
guys that way, and it's like, I feel like the

(20:09):
the narrative of Mexican mcs being like boxed in or
like type cast it into like a sohol year.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah you can go do lowrider shows you. I feel
like that ships like starting to finally like got away. Man.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
It is because we got the numbers in this country.
It's the biggest minority in the country, and we're actually
now getting to the point where we can box with
whoever you put us in the ring with, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
So not all of us, but a lot of us.
And I think Mexican OT is one of them. Like
you put them on a song with anyone, he could
probably box or hang. I think me and my brother
are up there, you guys, dough Man, I think is
up there?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Man is crazy? Oh god, he's yeah, she's fired.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
You know what really fucking irks me though, When motherfuckers
be like, oh, this is the Mexican YG or this
is the Mexican Kendrick and Jcob, It's like, man, what
the fuck?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
That just sounds retarded, Bro, I don't hear you know what.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
You know what, you never heard anybody saying that kind
of shit about cypers.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Hill exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Right, because everybody try to make a post about me
and my bro saying we're the Mexican fucking Kendrick and
j Cole, which is way out of line. I think,
like we got our own style, you know what I'm saying.
And I was just like, what the fuck that's fucking weird, Yeah,
fucking super lame.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
What's like almost like what you guys said about the
pitopull thing. It's like you guys, your guys's goals a
lot bigger.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
We're up there for sure, and people, I think that's
why it's taking us longer to get there because people,
I don't know, man, in La, you see what's going on, bro,
Like besides the people that are already huge, like Tyler
and all the TV guys, no one in our realm
of success or fame or a little above or below

(21:49):
it's doing creative stuff like us, Bro. Not nobody like
point them out, brocause I.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Don't see it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
And sometimes in Las it takes longer because they're used
to seeing the same ship and the same ship.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Works and it's the same the same ship.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Like that's the thing is, like, you know, you guys
aren't doing like running gun hip hop videos. You guys
are doing like really well thought out, like yeah, fucking
movies I did.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Like, are you guys working with one person that shoots
this stuff tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (22:19):
He's been doing our stuff as of lately, but we
gotta we got a couple of dudes we like to
fuck with.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
You know. The visions all feel very like similar to.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, very similar.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, yeah, the ones we've been posting lately, Yes, all
working with Marmo Smatmo Films and the DP.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
He has a super dope to Caesar, shout out to Caesar.
We got a good thing going, man, where they see
our visions and they're able to elevate them and add
their own vision. And sometimes most times we co direct,
but the last one to be real one and even
the Devil one, we kind of step back on that
one and kind of just let them do it because

(22:54):
typically we're so hands on where we probably get annoying
because we're like just like but then when we step
back sometimes we're like we should have stepped in more.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, this last one is coming out.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
I was kind of fucking pissed off about it, but
it's gonna be cool still. At the end of the day,
it's just my own nitpicking and I'm my worst critic,
you know what I mean. So whenever I see space
for improvement, I'm gonna fucking be vocal about it and say, nah,
you fucking should have fucking listened to me, jackass, when
I told you this about fucking film this goddamnit, say that.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
No one's gonna know.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
But you know, but because when we see our contemporaries,
a lot of people like you said one of the
boxers in with the Mexicans, right, which I'll take it, bro,
Like I fuck with the doat Mexican movement going on.
I love it, and you know, we're not the head
of the spirit, but we're on the way. But our
contemporaries to me is like Kendrick lamar Uh Tyler the creator.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Right Creatively, that's that's the bar you're trying.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
To So we have a conversation with ourselves where it's like, Okay,
if this is how we view ourselves, we have to
present it as such, you know, what I'm saying, So, uh,
you know, we're making bread off music.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
It comes to the point so and you.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Guys are obviously reinvesting because these videos are.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Back cheap man. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Motherfuckers go by bust downs and we know we like
to look flying. We got our shit, you know what
I'm saying, But we're reinvesting it in the in the
product because we got to separate ourselves from the bunch,
because they try to put us in with the bunch,
but most.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
People would skim on the video and then go buy
a fucking exactly a Gucci belt or something.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
We're doing the opposite, and we still got enough to
look fly, you know what I'm saying. Right, and we
were the bustdowns are on the way, you know what
I'm saying. We just met up with a dealer and
all that. But for us, it's more like the art
comes first.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
But when I look at these fucking receipts sometimes I'm like,
Namn Man should have just pulled up in front of
a fly as Web with some bitches and just did that,
because god damn, you gotta spend this on that and that,
because the fucking the tab on the clothes and the
gear and all that also adds up, you know.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Well how much Like because you guys, there's a few
western towns you could get around around l A. That's
not cheap cheap.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, put that ship for two days. You've got a
minimum time, Yeah, especially people you two days.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah, just to do the math some motherfuckers out here,
you know what I'm saying, Like, Uh, we don't.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
We don't take this ship lightly. Bro. We spent bag
six figures on videos.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's like like we changed the way we see this ship.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Like like it's like, what could you do for this
for hip hop or or whatever it is? You know,
what can we do for it instead of what it
could do for us?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
So we're trying to give it something great, wow, and
in return that could give us something you know what
I'm saying. We're just trying to track, trying to switch
the way we were thinking because we used to wrap
like to get the money, the fame and all that.
Now it's like, nah, let's do something fucking good. Let's
give it back to the Yeah, that's what we're trying to.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Eat because we want the culture to not only we
want the culture is starting to respect our pen game.
And we said our contemporaries like and all these people
are doing shit for love, Shaq free ninety nine, Mario
Lopez free ninety nine, be real same. So we have
all these people that are pulling up because not only
do they give us a look, a great look, they

(26:14):
trust us that in return, We're gonna give them a look,
you know what I'm saying. So, as crazy as it sounds,
we gave Shack a look. This motherfucker went viral. Snoop
Dogg posted it, TMZ posted us like three times.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
And Rick Ross trying to copy Kobe and hyeah they copy, Yeah,
they for show copied it. But Kobe and Shack of this,
yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
And even Mario Lopez, you know what I'm saying, like
he's showing a mad love.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
But yeah, yeah, Like what the fuck we don't own Shack?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
You can do record, brother, you want? How was that? Like, Shack?

Speaker 5 (26:47):
How you guys are from l A obviously, so Shacks
a Laker legend, for got a statue outside of the
fucking Staple Center.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Love that guy.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
One of the most famous human beings ever walked the
face of the ever.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, his fucking or is crazy. He's like a god
amongst men already.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Third Yodie, how like, first of all, what were the
discussions between him just being a fan because he always
shows loved a lot of different artists. Yeah, yeah, a
lot of independent artists too, But like, how do you
translate that from like him rapping with you?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
So that's that's fucking sick.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
The first time he ever hit us up, which was
also video my brother posted just on his phone again
going back on the phone.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I was parked on the phone.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
And then we had just recorded a song at I
forgot whose studio was. We did a song whatever it
was Holly Morning, yeah in Vegas. Now, this was at
his house over here. I don't know if he still
has it.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
It was a while talking about the Giant House, like
like the White House.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, yeah, long gone with French, I never got oh.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah yeah you said about you take the elevator down?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, that spot. We did a song that he had
a record with French Montana. It never got really sound
about right, yeah, And I was hearing it the next
day and I was like, damn, I gassed this motherfucker.
So I just recorded myself rapping the lyrics posted it,
didn't think nothing of it, and fucking came across Shack's
eyes and then fucking next thing you know, we got
a fucking DM from Shacks ain't dope.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I'll funk with y'all. Y'all dope as fuck like.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
You're going, and he shot us to follow and then
we're fucking super hyped that day.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
It was during the pandemic.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Too, so immediately, like I was legit a fan of
shacks raps, I love no hooks with him.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
I mean, I know people like to try to give
Damian the props, but Shack had fucking jay Z and
Nas on.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
The record and Wool Tang Biggie Black thought you went
platinum as a rapper like most like it was a
different time, but this motherfucker had you can't stand the rain, you.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Understand was fire, So before stopped the ring. Whatever you
can can't stop, the r can't stop. So not only
did we show him admiragers and for being a laker,
but almost immediately we're like above that, like I love
your pen game as a rapper, I respect you too,
So immediately we dropped the seed.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
The first day, like.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
One day, hopefully we get you out of retirement and
get you on a song. And he was just like,
as long as its hardcore, I'm with it, you know
what I'm saying. But that was two years before we
actually got the song done, so it was just like
relationship building. He started sending his means, we were saying
me there was like regular stuff. And then last year
he started sharing our stuff a lot. He was just
sharing what we were doing. So we're like, all right,

(29:18):
he's tapped in, so maybe now is the time to
send him a song. And we had done the song
that was super hardcore, the Three Locals one, and it
was with ghost Face Killer in mind because we talked
to somebody that potentially it could have happened. Yeah, and
it didn't happen, but we had it and we're like,
fucking I'm send it to Shack.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
He's my favorite member.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Really, he's up. There's top three. I love method.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Man, goes Face in my top ten ever, So top
ten ever, Yeah, sure, I think goes Face.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, his new album's Crazy too Fire.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
He never lost it, yeah, he never.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
He hasn't lost a step bro, and even on the features, bro,
he still fucking goes crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Shit with him and nams.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
He went banana, Yeah, I don't never disrespect me records.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
You guys, uh, get get in the record. He sends
it back to you, and now it's like, all right,
well we gotta shoot the video.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah, so again it goes back. He facetimes us. My
brother immediately like this is the thing. We don't let
the opportunity just pass. We shoot our shot if it
felas and felt my brother first thing down there he's
my brother says, was you know, we gotta bring you
out to the video.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Shack's like I'm there, I'm there.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
So we're already like okay, and you know, we hang
up and then we kind of want to not bother him,
and then he keeps texting us. He starts sending us
beats and like da, So I'm like okay, Like Shack's
really like he's fucking.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
With also sending us memes and ship of yeah dying
on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
It was just pretty so all right, we're on the
same you guys.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
We're the saying.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Once you start trading memes with each other, you're like,
all right, this is becoming like a friendship here.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
So it was like all right, he just got.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
A little bit more comfortable, you know what I mean.
He can tell his motherfucker anything.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
So he was on tour.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
I saw he was in La one day and I
was like, shock, if you could give us fucking one hour,
bro that yeah, we'll plan it around done in an hour. Yeah,
he said, yes, we planned it. He gave us two
hours and we did what we did and he we
went stupid viral and that was like another step on
the gas that it boosted us even more than what

(31:22):
we were already doing. Man, he's been a real blessing.
He text us randomly. He's really embodied being the third
member of Coyote. We have a few other songs with him. Yeah,
he just text us randomly like around.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
But there was an award for like the most random
link up. I think that one would have won it
for for sure, the most random link of shack.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
But ship we made that ship.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I would have never thought.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
There Jersey Living.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, we got to songs that we got to.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
We're gonna hang those up at the studio, you know
what I mean. Yeah, but that's the bro And it's
crazy to say that, but it's true, like us to bro,
like we talk to them all the time.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Explain to me, like, how because you guys obviously being
with Whack, I felt like I felt like you guys
were kind of obviously when you sign with Whack, opportunities
come because Whack is a well connected person. Those opportunities
don't necessarily translate into like real fans.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, definitely not right.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
But I feel like what you guys have been doing
the last like year and a half or so, you
guys are building like a real buzz or real fan base.
What was it like that you feel like you guys
started to do differently that translated into people becoming actual fans,
not like passive fans. I'm talking about like people who like,
go buy a ticket, people who buy a T shirt,
people who are like you.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Just you can't cheat the work, bro, You can't fool
the people. You can't cheat the work. Like if a
motherfucker puts a bag behind you and it it throws
you out there, that doesn't mean it's gonna work, you
know what I mean. You can get all the code
signs in the world, but if your shit's not connecting
with anybody, you don't got a message, Like what's your movement?

Speaker 1 (32:59):
What is it for?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Mean?

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Like people aren't gonna fucking follow you because you can't
cheat the system like you need a What we did
was like we started trying to cater to them, and
we fucking forgot what made us get in this position
in the first place. That's why we hit a little
bump on the road, you know what I mean at
that time. But what we fucking started doing is like, nah,
what God is here? The way we were fucking rapping

(33:23):
back then, So let's get back to that and start
connecting with people on a different level so we can
build this colt following that just follows us. And then
once you build that bro like in music, you'll never
go hungry.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Like those motherfuckers are gonna always support you to support,
so they're gonna they're gonna buy buy the sweater exactly
by the heart, special edition whatever.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, So that's what That's what was our mentality going
into it, like, nah, we can't cheat the ship, Like,
let's put the footwork in that's needed instead of like,
all right, let's get this fucking big ass fucking industry
to put their name behind our ship and blasts out there.
Because they did that, and now the hood rat record
that you're a fan of you love so much. Win
but yeah, yeah, to win top forty on rhythmic rhythmic charts.

(34:07):
I don't know if that means anything. I don't know
what the fuck rhythmic.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Charts is, but I remember it's a billboard though.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, and they record is dope.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
But you can't cheat the fucking work, bro, Like you
want to build fans, go out there, let the people
touch you while the fuck you acting famous when you
got fucking whatever followers you got, Like, Bro, you can't
cheat the fucking work.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
And I think also, like again going back to what
you're trying to appeage, there's A and RS and people
telling you when we pull up with our dope shit,
even like the ship we deal with sim but we
pulled up like yo, look what we got, and people
are like, no one wants to hear this ship. No
wants to hear this ship.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
You start beleave in bro and nowadays broke because of
the Internet, there's a space for anybody to find their
crowd and grab them and then fucking eat off of the.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Problem with the people who you're talking about A and
RS is like their livelihood, like them being gainfully employed,
depends on whether or not a song is uote unquote
hit record. So when they get like I would almost
say almost any A and R period, when they give
you feedback, it's coming from a place of job security.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah, and that's why now they're losing their jobs in
the industries and shambles because you have people like us
that we're direct to consumer, like I don't need nobody's approval.
Like once we started doing, like, look, bro, this is
what we want to do. This is not only what
we want to do. This is what we're best at.
Because trying to do the LA sound and all this
other stuff, we could do it. But if I'm Steph
Curry in the three pointers, my fucking go to while

(35:31):
the fuck am I not shooting the three Yeah, So
that's kind of the angle we started taking. And if
we fell on what we're good at, at least it's
on our fucking it's on us, it's on you.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
You're like going out your way, Like hey man, I
can't blame this on anybody because you could at least
go to sleep at night knowing we did it our
way and it didn't work, and that's fine. But if
you go to sleep at night and it didn't work
because you followed trends, or you followed with some.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
That doesn't feel good, that feels terrible, that's work because
you agree with them. I remember people started saying it
about hood right even when you guys told us and
a few other people, I was like, man, the fuck
the things I agree with these motherfuckers. I hate this song,
you know what I'm saying, But now I appreciate it
because it did put a battery in our back.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
And No, but when you guys, even when you guys
came and rapped, you guys killed it. Yeah, I was like, well,
these are hard like shit like dope for uh, for
you guys, man, like give me you guys obviously have
a guy with two belts, oh.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, with a tag team chests.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
But these are our belts really too for everyone I
think you know what I'm saying, like.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Kind of heavy, so we need a big, strong, hefty
guy in the back hold of them for us.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
We actually won these too. This ain't no belts have
been given this the homicide one.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Those are WWF's by the way, too, so you didn't
those aren't fucking like I went to the w W
shopping bottom recently. No, because that's a w.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
W like if you know, you know, you know what
I mean. We're fucking big vintage fans.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
You know I'm walking some vintage right now. And you
guys areso wrestling guys.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, grew up wrestling, Yeah, I mean I fucking almost
killed this guy at one point.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Can you say you grew up wrestling in the dockyard? Yeah,
in the backyard.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
It was doing a backyard.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Table ladders, real matches.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
That shit became like a thing where our parents would
be like when they leave the house and then leave
us there no wrestling.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
It was like we didn't know it was fake.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
So we're over here really making each other cry because
we had belts that we would It was a twenty
four to seventh thing where you could win the belts, right,
so any given.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Time and then you win the hardcore belt. Was this
stuff alcohol right, twenty four to seven belt. I'll be
walking out the motherfucking bathroom in this motherfucker steel chair.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
But but legit making each other cry, like putting each
other through tables. He threw a center block in my head.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I got I was an accident, though it was an
accident because look one of the little my little cousin Anthony.
He ended up throwing the belt over the fence because
we were fining for one of these belts right here
back in the days, though not these exact belts, but yeah,
he threw it over the fence and we couldn't wrestle
anymore because we were trying to climb the ladder to
get the belt.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
You guys have a ladder match, terrible ladders and in
the backyard.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, so we were all like, damn, I didn't want
to jump the fence. I could have jumped the fence,
but I kind of pretend I can't. Yeah, I try
to act like my fucking ankle was heurt or whatever.
And then he was like, all right, I'll fucking do it.
But he couldn't get up there because he was a
little chunky kid, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Put the center block on the floor.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
So he put the center block on the floor, still
on the center block, jumped over, and he was like,
but when I jump over, I need the cinder block
to jump back.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
So when I land, you threw the cinder block so
I can step on it.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Wait one second.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
As he jumped over, I grabbed the cinder block, said
fuck you. I didn't even think I just threw it.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I don't even want.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I heard was.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I was like, I got I know there was a ladder.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Now and then no one could jump to the defence.
But not everyone don't.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I'm scared, like, oh no, he's hurt adrenaline. This guy,
we don't use the block to jump back over. It
was covered like his whole face was red. Leading mom
just stished me up all the time. I'm thinking, like
how am I getting? How am I going to get
out of this ship with my mom? She's gonna fuck
me up?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
And I was like, I got it. I'm gonna blame Anthony.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
He's only four years old. The first we're blaming a
four year old.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, he threw the seconds, but he chucked it. He
got fucking straight. I said, if.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Anthony would have never threw the belt over the fence,
he would have never got crabbed.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
I said, I fell off the fence.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
He shot the Anthony man, he was a real one.
He took my mom's chew out like a champion and
wrapped me out. He just sat there and cried him,
almost chewing him out.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Like you motherfucker, you throw the belt. Look at what
happened A big Yeah. They just stished me up out
there on the kitchen table.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
Have you guys got to link with any wrestlers yet?
Anybody chat or tapping off?

Speaker 4 (40:02):
We know the homie Santana Proud what's his name?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
From New York? You guy should work with?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
You know there's a guy named st Strickling is the
a W champ? A rapper really hard? You know him? Yeah?
He last week we're doing the record fuckers that had
been crazy.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
We're trying to throw an event where we mixed hip hop,
wrestling and comedy.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Bro, y'all should do it. Fucking let's go. We're talking down,
I'm down, and let's do it.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
We got Rakisi right, we still got Rakeshi's number. We're
talking with a lot of these guys. Man, let's do it.
We're gonna have Vernee and Ken hosted.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I know all kind of wrestlers.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Dog, let's say less, bro, don't tell.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Me super tighted with someone like like ah, like a
few of the USO guys like U Zilla, who's to
Who's uh the Roman Ranges?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I think it's his cousin? Fire him, bro? Yeah, I
know a lot of those guys.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
We're trying to do like a festival bow where's a
called Yodi Man and ship show.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Where it's wrestling, comedy and rap. But in the coolest way.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Where would you do that in the States. The ring,
it's going to be a wrestling ring. Whoever performs, the
performers are rapping in the ring. Yeah, everything in the ring.
The comedy is in the ring, spying in all in
the ring. It's gonna be a complete ship show. Chaos
but beautiful sounds fire.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
You heard don Coyote.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
The venue they have like.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
But they already throw wrestling events there. They throw wrestling events.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
They're already. We could put the ring in there, and
we could put bleachers in there. We got the connection
for bleachers and then they got an upstairs part balcony
wraps around it.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
All that you're down. What were trying to make it
like a yearly.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Fucking complete circus should be hard Midget strippers.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Midge strippers, that would be hard.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I I got a lap dance from a single midget
stripper before.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
What you smashing is it wasn't married.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
If you were married, I'm no, of course not, but
if I wasn't married, you're a single. I give it
a just to just to say I did it.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
I guess for the story, like very like chunky.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, you know, they.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Got definitely got. They're definitely thick. They thick in the
forehead too. Their faces looks like Rihanna's look like Rihanna
on a small body.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Gorgeous is what I'm saying. But you know they got forehead.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like Rihanna is like a
full grown midget.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
US bad mission just kept going.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
I think she's one of the battest girls out there.
But you know, yeah, for sure there's a resemblance there.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, I know there's a resemblance there. For sure.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
When I see a bad midget, I'll be like, man,
I look like Rihanna.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's great. So talk, let's talk about the album. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
LT Aliens dropped this before after before before on the twelve,
I think, so, I think, so that's the day we're
aiming for right now.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
That's you know, on the corner, Yeah to light twelve.
So we we we're gonna have a release show.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Fourteenth is the fourteenth, Friday Friday.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
I don't know what today is, so I don't fucking
around that time, sometime in June.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I think it's July.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
July, yeah, July, Okay, July twelve.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
L Dot Aliens featuring the Yodis, Shaq, west Side, Bugie.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Rigan, Ricky Blanco, Ricky Blanco, the Game, Dom Man, Jesus.
There's a lot of dope ship on there, Sucker Free
the Homie from Lantic one on four. It's gonna be dope, man.
I'm super proud of it. Uh.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
We might have a show at the Saint Rock in
the South Bay. I know people like to stay in
fucking hot, so we're trying to move people out of
Hollywood and go to our side of town. That might
be the final Roxy though, I know. But they're out
of business right now.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
They're they're not going to open till September or some
ship like that.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'm glad they're fixing it. Every time you have to rock,
you're like, what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (44:16):
I think they're opening it back up in August, but
I think August is already booked, so they're thinking about
booking us there in September.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
The South Bay show, and then you gotta spin the
block and do the Roxy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah, it's gonna be more of a like listening type
of party, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I don't know. I still don't know what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
That we might do, I mean, Ship, we might pull
out the midges and tables and ladders and chairs there Ship,
who knows it's still away from now.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
The echo that echoes it's an echo park. That's that's
the first time OT was in TOWNY did the echo
It's it's a it's a good room.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
I think we went there.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I think it's like four or five hundred tickets.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Oh, it came to the studio after that night. Yes, yeah,
I remember that was that. I think that was the Echo.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
So there's the Echo Plex and then the Echo. They're
like one's it's super fucking weird because one's like below
the other.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
But so you got to like go down the stairs
and like walk past all the homeless piss to get
to the real. But there's two venues in that space,
one of them smaller, one of them is bigger. But
it's a good venue, I mean Ship.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
The thing about the same rock, I think we got
it for free.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
They don't like pain.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
We don't even pay our producers deal Ship because you know,
the hardest process for us is just kidding, man, shout
all the motherfucking producers.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Man.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
So we go through I swear people think we're joking,
but we'll probably go through five hundred beats to find one,
and like I guess, we could write to anything, right, Like,
if I have to do a.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Song, I will.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
So it's the hardest part for you, Yeah, just because
lately we've been we've been.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Fighting the beat and then getting the first line is
probably the hardest part. You know, Once we got that
and then everything just starts flowing.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Like you ever hear people say the worst has come
to me. So that's what we're searching for now. So
I hear it.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Bet I want the worst to come. Yeah, just nothing forced.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
I don't want to thinking, oh I like this beat,
and then I'm thinking thinking thinking which I can if
I have to. But lately what I'm looking for is
I want the beat that pull the ship out of
me pretty.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Much, So going there with some fully loaded clips.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
It takes fucking going through five hundred beats, and sometimes
we find them on YouTube or beat stars will pay
the forty dollars fucking lease or whatever. Sometimes forty dollars
exclusive you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
YouTube, Like, YouTube is a great place to find beats.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Yeah, but you know, once it shit really starts popping off.
I know we're going to get a lot of.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
People type beat records on this project that we're putting in.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
So when you find the type beat type record, you
just fucking just in the bio.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah, there's this thing called it's called transfer YouTube to
MP three, no trust, copy baste and then they go
straight to the iTunes and then boom, I get on it.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Listen. The best way to I'm not even I fuck
with a lot of producers, but the best way to
really steal a beat is to just send it to
a producer who's good enough and be like, can you
reproduce this?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah, that's facts, that's fact.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Now that's frowned upon.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Yeah you shouldn't. I get it. Producers probably hate us.
But if we know the producers different, we'll give them
the splits and all that. But there's been times where
we find a producer on YouTube or beat start them
and we'll hit them up and there there's no response.
I'm like, all right, I'm gonna just upload your ship,
you know what I'm saying. Like the dude, we did
with Shack. He's never reached out that beat, so he
don't know that he has.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
You must have like giving up on his dream. Has
no idea that Shacks wrap it on his beat.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
No fucking clue, you know what I'm saying. But again,
when the producers reach out, we get the business right,
you know what I'm saying. But oftentimes we just find
the beats on the women. It's like, all right, I
don't know who this saying. Yeah, and it's hip hop.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Man, you're independent, you know ship hip hop.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
It was made off stealing, so yeah, for sure. Whatever. Yeah,
we've had people what.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Was that dude that hit us up? Was like, hey,
I bought this beat? You guys are rapping up, Like,
all right, buddy, hits ours now? Like, what do you
want to do? Suis sue me?

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Fuck it? Take it down? Yeah? How many streams did
you get on the one that you bought? Nothing?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Nothing?

Speaker 3 (48:18):
It was nothing because we looked it up and we're like,
what the fuck this shit got like fucking thirty plays?
Bro and the kicker is a lot of people use
that beat, so I send them a lot of songs
I love.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
How many people use this beat?

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Like, while you hitting us up because he's seen it
was the most traction, like, hey this is my beat,
I bought it, I used it, blahlah blah blah blah.
And I was like, what are you gonna do, Suis
fuck it dude, the producer.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Fuck dudecause you already let eight other rappers wrap over
there too.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Motherfuckers used to resell beats.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
I'm trying to get sued, bro, to be honest, I
want to get sued. It's gonna show me that I'm
doing something right.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
Alchemist once had a beat that he sold to Jadakiss
and raz Cast and raz Cast disstant On van Goya,
at least on the Van Go demo that they were
passing out of Tower Records.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Okay, you know Alchemists. Yeah man, I'm trying that. That's
our next collab project. We're trying to well.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
Alchemists is, in my opinion, uh to Go, possibly the
greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yeah, up there he's up there, Bro.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
What I like for what we like?

Speaker 5 (49:15):
Think about the run he's been on the last like
fucking five or six years, bro, Like Alfredo Grammy nominated
he did with Larry June, Like all these collab albums
he's doing like it's like his second breath is so
crazy and for the ship that like you definitely I
think Kanye, Timberland, all those guys you know who.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Got a sick This is like you know who got
nick as second breath of fresh air, Bro, Limp, Biscuit,
Fred Durst and them out of nowhere. Bro, They're going crazy.
They're the world fucking packing that ship out. And it's
not like old motherfuckers in the crowd. There's a bunch
of young motherfuckers in the crowd going crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
I'm not gonna lie, dude.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
You know we got a Fred Durt's feature coming to
we did? We linked up with Dj Lethal Legend.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yeah, he's been fucking shopping Biscuit.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I liked Significant Other a lot. That's a great album.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
The first album I ever stole was the Chocolate Star Fist.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Hot Flavored Water. So some of their songs haven't aged
the best.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
No, I haven't heard that album along.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
You know roll that Rolling song was a smash right
from what I remember. That's but now, like when you
hear it, rolling is kind of hard. Breakstuff is breaks
up is hard rolling, and you hear it is kind
of cheesy.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Bump break stuff to but like that ship the ship
with method Man pretty hard hardest, hardest.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
That beat is still one of its beats.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Ever, when a freestyle over that.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I think, I think I've written to that beat multiple times,
but then the verses goes somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Yeah, fire beat.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Rocking, Yeah, all that a good era.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
That was a good era, bro, your t R my
childhood exactly, DM mad Black Kid. You know, and what
you think of Eminem ship Man. I saw you do
a post about it, the verse or the video he rapped.
It's like, the video is fucking great. No, the video
is great. I thought he had some videos artis. But

(51:16):
I think that as a song.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
To me, he made that song for people like me
who remember nostalgia because because when he used to put
his old albums.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
His first, his first record is always the one picking.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
But it's like, how I love I don't.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I don't like eminem slander at all. You know, I'm
a hip hop d I understand.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
And I actually thought music to be murdered by it.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
This is my album, and I got excited about kill Jady,
the whole thing that he's doing right now.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
I'm a little.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Excited about I'm excited to the title kN slim Shady's
dead or whatever. But I think him doing the guess
Who's back all the time, Like how many guess whose
back songs do we need?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
This is what I say.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
I think I understand. I understand what he was trying
to do. Yeah, I thought there was some good rapping
on their. Eminem is always gonna be good rapping.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
For sure.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
I don't love the song. My friend hates it. Who
I posted his text.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
He was like, I've never wanted somebody to be addicted
to drugs again. See, I'm an Eminem stand So dude,
you have to listen because I am an Eminem fucking
fan and I've been so vocally like hating from like Recovery.
I like recovery, but anything out of recovery recovery, but
anything after that relapse recovery where no relap.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Recovery is good, but relaps wasn't relapse. Relapsed to me
was his last good album.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
I think I think good.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I like Recovery good, bro, if you look at the
raps in there and the.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Content, it's one of the lyrically strongest album. Accent was weird, bro.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
I know once you get past the accent and you're
looking at his wordplay and the concept of his records.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Three Crazy whatever will so Cold, the song will go.
That song crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
So to me like anything after Recovery so like I
hated Marshall Mathers LP two. I thought Revivals. I think
Revival is one of the worst albums.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
That I don't know. If I heard Revival, it's.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
It's the worst. It might be the worst hip hop
album by a major artist. It is an absolute I
don't I don't stand by these words. Kama Cozi was
very hard.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I didn't hear Kamaki you.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Know what to murdered by was fucking fire good. That's
eminem album since probably I heard it once.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
I heard it once and I never went back to it,
so I probably got to go back.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
To you remember like on like Eminem Show and the
g and the Ship, like he was like making beats
that sound like you would used to be able to
hear Eminem produce beating me like, oh, that sounds like
an Eminem bat. Like when he did nas is the Cross,
like like Renegade did the Cross?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yes, the version Mary carry the Cross that's.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
On that's a minem bat. What he pretty.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
That was God. I love that song.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
I don't know this is the thing, like I feel
like music to be murdered by. It sounded like a
fucking Eminem album. Again, it wasn't like him trying to
and then other thing like I wish you was stopped
working with Skyler Gray Dog.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Like he's trying to make the records and like.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
At least like you know, they got some records. I
can appreciate the sky of the Great Pink Songs gotta.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Stop, though.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I like him when he's on his demonic ship and
he's like when he's darking on drugs for sure, like
that song with.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
I think this motherfucker is just speaking Chinese to us
because he got so technical and good that it's like
not good. You know, it's like so many like damn,
you got to rewind and hear what he said here
and this.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Like cannabis man, like two thousand BC was tough.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
I think I think Eminem is strictly on how good
it is and not focused on is this a good how.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Good of a rapper am I going to be on?
I like, listen, I like music to be murdered by.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I need to hear it.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
It's a really really, really really good album.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I'm excited about that.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I'm excited for the album too, because at the end
of the day, if you know, this is the warm up,
and this is like a vintage eminem warm up, for sure,
it should be a good album.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
He was gussing the videos dope, video is dope. It's
just to me, I guess I didn't like that. It
was two nostalgic for me a couple because I want
to hear something new, right Versus's.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Thing obviously made that for people like us who are
like into his like but if it didn't connect.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
With us, yeah, but it did, though it didn't connect
with a lot of.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
But but I'm saying, like, who's the demographic for this ship?

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah it was it.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Ain't nobody belove thirty. Ain't nobody really like you know
what I'm saying. Like, But a lot of people love it.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
I think it's just I mean that shit went stupid viral.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Maybe it was number one. People do love it.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
And for the record, I don't even hate it. I
think it's just okay.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Middle America is pretty big, exactly, But you know.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
What, we need him over like them nineteen ninety nine
beats like the fucking I just don't give a fuck
beats like bringing back to some Boom back.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
I didn't think KI was absolute. I thought it was
just I'm like, dog, I'm not going to re listen
to this. Yeah, Like I get it. The video was cool,
the concept was cool. Like the visually. I feel like,
if you want, if you listen to the song, because
I fucked up and I heard the song before I
watched the video and I was.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Like, this ship is whatever.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Then you see the video and you're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yeah, just what he was doing.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
I get it. It's paying how muge to all his
old videos. I get it, Like hopefully there's some dre
fucking beats on me and hopefully, you know, just not
Skylar Gray Bright.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
What was that song, bro, the Devil in Side where
he's like when the Devil comes and he's like suspending
an animation like somebody's hold like hold to me there,
Like when he's just on his fucking like comic book.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Characters before all of that infinite he's talking about like
a hunted house or something, right, and he's like the
books are flying off, flying off shelves. Yeah, I love
That's one of my biggest influences.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
I like Eminem when I hear him and he sounds
like a fucking comic book.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
You know. My favorite Eminem era was eminem Show and
then all the gun It mixtapes and all the like
Green Lantern mix tapes.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Yeah yeah, I like the Slim Slim Shadyop was My
favorite album is eminem Show and then Slim Shadio P.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Then I had Marshall Baders.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
There was good album classic yeah, yes, class the first three.
I love that guy. He was one of my biggest
influences to this day.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
When after eminem Show that had just lose It and
had uh It had Curtain Curtain Call that was the
greatest hits uh not.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
It was like, but there was all right, fuck Eminem,
Aliens June, what's the date today?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Look, I get it right, Aliens. You know what I'm saying.
That is gonna be crazy Core Encore. I liked Encore.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
There's some ship on.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
The mocking Bird song on there.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
They had that ship with Obie Trice that you better
love me. I just want know. That was on the
eight Miles soundtrack.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
I fucked it on Core. I fucked with everything until
I think relapsed. I stopped kind of listening.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah that's fair. Well, look man, L dot aliens. Sometimes
sometimes July Is think it's in tune.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
So he wants to rap or not.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Bro, I know we weren't here to rap, but I
kind of like to sure this guy always wants to rap.
I mean, want to put that hustle in the house
on there. Man, We're just gonna wrap in the house
rap everywhere. He damn if it was the interview segment.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
You are now there's the freestyle segment.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah, let's go all right on a different YouTube video now.
But we fumble this. We're not gonna drop it.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Okay, So if you don't see it, they fumbled it. Yeah,
you won't rap or not sure rap. I get