#541 - Wiz Khalifa

Interview with Wiz Khalifa on The Bootleg Kev Podcast.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeh, what ups you boy?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Whiz Khalif for Man and make sure you check me
out on the Bootleg CAV podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Hey, before we start the episode, we're gonna remind everybody, Man,
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(00:49):
That's right, Let's get into the interview Brutleg CAV Show.
Blutlet Cab podcast. We got a special guest in here,
Christian Orgrews two. It's out right now. I just told
Will today it might be your best album.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I think in terms of official releases, mixtapes aside. I
think it's your best album.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I think it might be better than Rolling Papers.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
It is. I say it on the album it's the
best one yet.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah. And then like, you know what I loved about
this project? Well, first of all, I was like very
nervous because when you name something after you know, a
classic like Cushion Orange Juice, the expectations are crazy. And
then sonically I'm like, well, damn, like it's twenty twenty five,
whereas west Head's going to be at But like man,

(01:37):
sonically it was right in that pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Production wise, like very very happy that that's the reception
of it.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
It was incredible. And then for you, like when you
started working on this, was it like intentional or did
it start to just feel like, oh, I think we
could do a Cushion Orange Juice too, or was it
like we're going to do a cushion Orange Juice too.
Let's go find those, let's go, you know, let's get
with Cardo let's give it, you know, the crew.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Like, yeah, it was. It was intentional, but it's something
that took a minute because you know, I had to
figure out like what that was like for real, Chris,
Cushion Oorjers is the music, but it's the feeling as well.
And I started the concept of Cushion Oorjews too really

(02:25):
like around this time last year, like when I started
thinking about doing it and I announced it to my
fans because I was in the studio and I was working,
and I was going through beats and I was just
trying to figure out like what direction I wanted to
go in, and I really just felt like taking it
back to my roots. I was like, I don't really
feel like trying anything new. I liked the newer styles

(02:49):
of music, like I love the production and I love
the energy and things like that, but I just couldn't
see myself like doing that for my next full project.
And yeah, to me, like the most exciting full project
for my fans and for anybody who really fucks with me.

(03:10):
I think Cushion Orange Juice Too would just be a
no brainer because if I try to make some ship up,
you know, it might hit or it might miss. But
with Cushion Orange Juice too. That's something that the fans
been asking me to do forever.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, you're exciting, you're exciting the basis.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, and they've also asked me to do it, and
I said I would. I never would, So I was like,
I'm never doing that, Like why would I do that?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Like why would I touch a classic?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
So it was kind of just me like going back
to my roots and doing exactly what I know my
fans want me to do as opposed to trying to
make up some new ship.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
And yeah, it was will and yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
It was a process of finding the sound, finding the pocket,
getting people ready for to embrace it and digest it,
and then doing the things that I know that they
were like, like you said, getting with Cardo. Cardo is
so essential to the Cushion Orange Juice sound. It wouldn't

(04:11):
be what it is if I don't have these Cardo
beats on there.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
And there's just moments and things.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
That I do or my delivery or you know, just
the way that I rap or my tone of voice.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
That I think your tone is important. Yeah, yeah, I
feel like these freestyles that tone is like, yeah, it's different. Yeah,
like it feels like like fucking BLOGI.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, for sure, And that's something that I was able
to turn on, you know, just by being in touch
with the fans. Like it's not it's still my performance
voice is what you hear when I'm on stage and
things like that. But you know, there might be songs
where are like what's happening is a little bit more
laid back. There's there's songs where I can you know,

(05:00):
relax my voice or whatever whatever. But on this particular project,
I know, as soon as you hear it, what's gonna
sound like cushion orange juice. And it's not just me
like making this up. It's based off of my fans
in their reaction the.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Max Water Water, thank you, the Max be interlude, the
way you came in on that motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Thank you man, it was crazy, thank you good?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Look what what how new is that? Max Be? Uh?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Like?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Was that something? Because it sounds good. Obviously it doesn't
sound like it's on the phone. It sounds like he
he probably you know, I don't know how he gets
that good, but whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's all energy drinks in there round water.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I have a big ass jug in the car if
you want to. Yeah, no, I'm glad the vocals sound
good on there.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I'm glad everybody's.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Damn near sounds like you've had it for like since
before he.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Was Nah, I mean, I definitely it's definitely a recent verse.
It's definitely something that you know, was specialized in, you know,
given to me personally from him. And I'm just glad
that it came off the right way, you know, because

(06:19):
that was like in my head, that was the Godfather moment,
you know, just to keep the wave alive and to
you know, show Max be his respect, but also like
bring it into now.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
And like the way that I wanted to use it
in the.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Album was to keep the album flowing and not like,
you know, depend on this Max b moment, but have
it really paint the picture of the whole scenery of
what's going on. And that's why I think it does too.
It blends in as well as like stands out, you
know what I mean, because it was one of my

(06:55):
favorite songs from the beginning. I've had that song for
a year.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, I just feel like you came in, like it
reminds me of like when Rick Ross came in on
Devil in a New.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Dress, Like, Yeah, yeah, Sledgroing produced that one, so shout
out the Sledgeer.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
You also like on this project, you have a very
very vulnerable for for whis Kalif a very vulnerable record.
The record with Rumor, the just to See You Smile
record where you dedicated to your your mother, your mom,
shot to moms and your brother who passed away. Was
that like when when you get into stud because I've
been in the studio with you, Is that the kind

(07:30):
of record where you could write that and record that
with the because your sessions are usually pretty vibe for
the most part. Yeah, Or is that some ship where
you got to like kind of clear the room, like
what was what was laying that down like and writing
that record?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I actually wrote that one at my house and but
I was on live.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I was on I Live.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, so it was something that I wrote in front
of people that I don't know it was like it
might have been like twenty five hundred people in the
live that day. But yeah, that was something that again
I wanted to feel confident presenting that to my fans and.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
To the people who loved me. So if you're gonna
hear it later.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I want you to hear it while I'm making it
so I can know what pocket to be in and
what feels good and what was not. So that was
something that I was confident, more confident in making than
it was difficult to make. And me and Rumor we
had made. I think we did three songs in our
session that could have went towards Christian Orange Juice too,

(08:35):
but that one, to me, was the most meaningful and
the most It was the most It was the one
that stood out to the people who saw me recorded
the most as well. So wed I we decided on
that one, and when he gave me the hook, he
gave it to me, it was like, Yo, I know
you just had a daughter, so you know you might

(08:55):
be able to write the song about your daughter. And
but it just made me think about my mom more
than anything, cause she just moved out here to la
and I've been seeing her a lot, and she's been
hanging out with my kids, and it just, you know,
made me really just grateful for our relationship.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
And then it also made me think about my brother
who passed.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Because during the month of February is when I was
writing a lot of this stuff and that's the month
that he passed away, and that's usually like a difficult
month for me. But as time got you know, as
more time went by, and especially this year, I was
just in a really good headspace. I was able to record,
I was able to work. I was able to you know,

(09:38):
play my son's birthday party, playing my mom's birthday party,
get a lot of my album you know, completed, and
do a lot of work on myself as well. So
it just felt really good to you know, kind of
just talk about you know, him too in our relationship.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
What do you uh, you know, in terms of this
energy you've been on man with these freestyles, just bringing
back the nostalgic like even the style of these like
quick shoot music videos. Yeah, it just just very much
like puts me in that twenty ten eleven twelve space.
You know what inspired you to? I mean just because

(10:16):
I'm man, you've been in your back like in a
very very strong way. What has inspired the energy?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I knew I was getting into album mode and just
the energy of just keeping going and saying fuck it,
that's really inspirational. I know how that feels to be
inspired by that, and I know how it feels to
own that too, So I kind of just started applying

(10:44):
that and just said, fuck it, I'm a post, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
However many times a day. I'm a post.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
However, whatever time I want to during the day, and
I'm gonna you know, kind of control the narrative and
allow my fans.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And people to really.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Enjoy it as much as I'm enjoying it, because when
they see me having fun and being free, then that
allows them to you know, feed off of it and
do what they do. If I hold on to it
or if I wait, or if I try to surprise them,
then they may or may not get it. But if
I get in my bag and it allows me to

(11:25):
practice too, Like it gives me a lot of like
practice for the things that I'm setting myself up for.
So there was only positive for me getting active and
doing stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I feel like two artists these days, like they don't
even think about Like all they think about is like, well,
if I put this out, I can't I can't really
monetize it. Like for example, you don't squabble up or
the Tupac freestyle, like those are like strictly for your fans. Yeah, yeah,
like you're not able to like put that on Spotify
or I feel like a lot of artists have gotten
so far away from the idea of like getting fans excited.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Right right, because yeah, it's easy to get away from
that because everybody wants that one big moment because they're
waiting for that one thing to go viral or whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
And my whole thing was and.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I talked to a problem or Jason Martin about this.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
It was January, and he was like, man, what's up
with the album? Man? He was like getting frustrated a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
He's like, when we put an album out, I'm like,
you gotta wait, yo, Like, it's not gonna be one
thing that pushes this over. I was like, I'm gonna
be on like my fifteenth freestyle and then people will
finally get it, you know what I'm saying. Like, I've
already planned ahead, knowing that it was gonna take fifteen
twenty however many it ended up catching on way earlier

(12:43):
than I thought it would, but knowing that in the
long run, you have to set it up these small
little things that end up being you know, a big,
big wave that causes motion. But yeah, I'm not depending
on the one little thing I always just wanted to
keep building it up, and that was the idea behind

(13:04):
Christian Orange Juice too, as well as to extend the
experience as much as possible, like not just drop one
focused track and then dropped the track list and then
put the album out, because we would have been done already. Yeah,
so we wanted to extend it. We've been working this
album since October last year, so October, November, December, January, February, March,

(13:26):
and we dropped in April. So we worked the whole
album for six months before we even put it out,
and we put the album cover out back then as well,
So it's been in your brains and that was the
idea behind it.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yo. Did do you know if Kendrick heard the Squabble
up remix?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
He probably did at this point.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, I feel like because I played that shit on
the radio audire so I feel.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Like, yeah, yeah, I've heard that's type. Man. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, great, great, great freestyle. My favorite was
the pop one, the pop one, yea.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
The prom was hard.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
The freestyle's got such a great reception, Like, I'm such
a fan of that and I'm so happy that people
still receive that and that it was able to you know,
revive a feeling.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
For people, because that's what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And I feel like it sets it up for so
much more, like that was only the beginning.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, even like the cloud ship with coal.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Clouds with coal, yeah, all of them. I got a
special place in my heart for all my little babies.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
So that like the col like record. Did he like
so he had sent that to you ahead of time?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, well he sent it to me to clear the
laugh because if yeah, there's like a whiskalif laugh.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
And yeah, he didn't have to. He was just being
cool out of respect.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Out of respect, he showed love and was like, yo,
can we use the laugh? And then this is when
I was doing all the freestyles. I was on one.
I was like, Nigga, let me put a verse on there,
and he's like, all right, cool, So I put the
verse on there. But the same night, I just dropped
it on my Instagram like and then everybody started going crazy,
like people start picking it up, and it just created this,
you know, this whole narrative. So he ended up releasing

(15:03):
it on his website as well. But it was cool,
it was fun.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
No he's doing a real good job of taking like
a non traditional approach to whatever we're in with him,
like this rollout, he's got blog posts and podcasts and YO,
talk to me because I've been saying this, like the
blog era of hip hop, you know, for all of

(15:27):
its strengths and weaknesses, to me, it was an era
where there were actually gatekeepers, but the gatekeepers had good
taste for the most part.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Who do you think we're the gatekeepers?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I just mean, like, you know, if you think about
like not right two dope boys, Like if like these
guys really, if they posted your music, they had the
power to like change your your your your momentum. There
was like a lot of those you know, whether it
was rap radar, whether it was there's so many of
those blogs.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, And I think the cool thing about that blog
era though, like it was blog era because of the blogs,
but it was bigger than the blogs though. It was
about the fans, right and it was everybody. We all
had our own fans, and the blogs were to entertain
the fans. Like we went to the blogs because that

(16:17):
was the underground at the time.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
That was the underground for sure, and.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
That was people's jobs who didn't make music. They were like, okay,
let me right, let me go and get a share.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Getting new music.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
But the blog era the artists like we were on tour,
we were underground. We were just you know, in our fans' faces.
And I think that's bigger than the blogs to me. Like,
I love the blogs, but the blogs didn't make us though,
like Twitter, you know what I'm saying, YouTube and stuff

(16:52):
like that. That's what really really made it crack because
without that, we wouldn't have an outlet to our fans
that the picked up later.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
It was almost like that was the first time that
artists had a direct to consumer.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, and that was good. Yeah, And that
was good because with the blogs, they were directly running it,
so we didn't have to go to anybody, you know,
any higher ups. We had our direct to our fans,
and then we had our direct to our media as well,
so we didn't need anybody to promote us. We were
promoting ourselves through our network. That was the blog era,

(17:29):
and it was cool. It was fun. We were self
sufficient and we all knew each other, We all have
respect for each other, We all you know, we all
assisted each other's come ups, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
I don't think like one.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
You know, like even even people like Drake, he started
exactly where where we all started from, doing exactly what
we were doing. And you know, his plan is what
got him to his super duper stardom, you know what
I'm saying. And even Kendrick too, he opened up for
me and Mac on tour crazy, you know what I mean.

(18:06):
So he was not under us, but we were all
literally on the same you know, path for a long time,
and the trajectory of it just panned out due to
like us as individuals and shit like that. But I
think there's way more strengths to the blog era than
there are weaknesses.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
No, I think it was. I mean, it's my favorite
era of music ever, so.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Other than other than the nineties, like the you know
what I mean, like the Pioneer.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
I just think of like the discovery of new shit
and how excited you were to discover like new shit,
and how easy it was back in the day. Yeah
you had to go to the record store and go
to hopefully find an album used, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I like how safe the blog era was too. We
wasn't worried about too much. We wasn't really like shooting
at each other. Nobody was killing each other, nobody was
you know, using you know, too hard a drugs. Lean
started to like come in towards the end of it,
but it wasn't really about all of that ship like before,

(19:04):
and it was really safe and we were promoting safe stuff.
We were promoting stuff that you know, later on in
life you could still apply these values and more. And
you know, like I said, in the nineties, people were
very diverse, and in the blog era was really diverse
as well. Like you had freaking Freddy Gibbs, and you

(19:27):
had flat Bush zombies, and you had you know, currency,
and you.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Had motherfucker, you had Mike Posner. Mike Posner.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, just like random everybody who was popping up in
a blog eraro was cracking, Like you.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Had a big crid in Ritz and they had like
a fuck yellow wolf. Who else was just crazy ye had?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
So yeah, there's a you had. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Charles Hamilton was hard.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Charles Hamilton, great name in the blog era.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yo pill was dope pill. Charles Hamilton, though sick, he
was one of He.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Was one of the ones.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
He was very consistent, even like the the mood music
ship that Joe Butden.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Joe Budden was doing mood music so good man.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah yeah, I feel like glass House is kind of
like the the quintessential like put it in, put it
on the mantle of blog era rap, thank you? Yeah,
I mean it was on two Black Classic projects.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah we made that at south By Southwest damn.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Rest in peace in the Airbnb.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah yeah, south By Southwest used to be the ship
man ill Moore was cracking.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
The ill Moore was jumping. We just used to roam
the streets the south By Southwest. That's that's she used
to be fun. I was was the blog air days.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
The headline that's going around today, you're the latest flat earther.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
For real? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I saw, she said. I heard your explanation on the
Joe Budden podcast. Yeah, so break because you have obviously
been all over the world. Do you truly think that
we live on a flat plane? Is that I'm just
I'm just trying to just watch out idea a little more.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I just believe more what I see than what I
what you're told. What I'm told, especially the older that
I get and the whole concept of space is way
too big for my imagination anyway, It's too big for
a lot of our imaginations. We would love to believe that,
we could think we know what the shape of the

(21:30):
world is, but the reality behind that is like, it's impossible.
So you choose what you want to believe, even if
they are facts supported by you know, scientists or uh whatever, whatever.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
You believe that. You know what I'm saying, it's a belief.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
It's not they haven't that. It's like most of these
people haven't been in space.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, it's just a belief. You just choose what to believe. Yeah,
that's all. So.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I don't even think that there's right or wrong. I
think that people choose what they want to believe. If
you choose to believe that what the scientists say, cool.
If you choose to travel and find out for yourself
or see as much as you can for yourself and
base your beliefs off of that, then you know that's

(22:18):
another choice. And that's more or less what I did.
And based off of me traveling, I've only moved flat,
I've only moved and looking at the map and how
we in the routes that we take, it doesn't seem
like we're going around anything. It just seems like we're
just going straight over you know what I mean, over

(22:40):
top of where it could look like a circle. It
could be circular if you rounded it out, but if
it's just one thing, it connects exactly the same.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
So I just don't see the difference.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
That's fair. Yeah, I also find it very peculiar that
we were able to go to the Moon in the
sixties but we have yet to do that.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Again, that's questionable. A lot of stuff is questionable.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Like I think the whole moonshit was.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
When you start allowing me to question things, that's when
I start to believe other things right, And I'm not
like sold on anything, but it's just from my experience
it really don't even matter to me all like that
because I'm not leaving Earth anytime soon to find out.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Are you going to if Jeff Bezos hit you to
take the Katy Perry flight, are you doing it?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
And no, I'm good man, I won't I won't gain
I won't gain anything from that. But it's just funny
to me, like how like people are so tripped out
about either the Earth being around or the Earth being flat,
Like you can argue about that all day, Like you
can't argue that that hat is black. That's that black hat, right, correct? Yeah,

(23:51):
so like we can't argue about that that's a fact.
It's not a fact of either, like you know what
I'm saying. It's just whatever you believe, even like you.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
So, yeah, it might seem cool to like go back
and forth and all of this, but nobody really fucking
knows who knows who knows?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
I feel like if there's like anybody who would have known,
they wouldn't They obviously probably wouldn't be here anymore because
they would have fallen off the who knows the side
who knows? The permuter triangle could be where the Earth ends,
because a lot of people disappear when there's that permute,
A little that's probably a vortex, some sort of alien.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
So much stuff as possible.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
They say that that that this is where we live,
and that there's so much earth. There's like ice walls
that we can't go past. Have you heard about that?

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah? So my producer, my producer is, do you believe
that's a flat earther? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
But do you believe in the ice walls? I don't
why not.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I don't know. See, I don't how about this, I
don't know, you don't want to how about this? I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
You don't know what.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
We don't know exactly who knows? It's my whole entire
approach approach. That's my approach with religion because I'm not
a religious person. But like the people who would know
what happens to you after you die are dead, so
like we just choose.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
To believe, Like I don't think that they're dead, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
I'm saying that those people, like whatever whatever happens once
we transition to whatever is next, how do we It's
not like we could find out firsthand what they had,
what they went through once they passed away. Like, so
I feel like most religion is you know, it's it's
it's all very similar and it's all very man made.
But like who really knows?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
You know what I'm saying, and not who as in who,
but who.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
You. I know you've done a lot. I know you've
done a lot of shrooms and ship do you feel
like when you've I don't know if you've had like
that like kind of spiritual breakthrough or you feel like
super small on psychedelics. I feel like that is being
like super fucked up on mushrooms. I think I ate
eighth ones and I was just I was tore back, dude.
It's like the closest thing I've ever been to like believing,

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like damn, maybe there's some other shit going on.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
There has to be some other shit going on. We
are a speck in the universe. That's that's for real.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
That believe aliens.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, I believe in aliens. I believe that.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I read a lot of books and stuff like that,
and in some of the books they talk about like
sharing technology with aliens.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, since at least the seventies.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
At least I think Roswell was before then, though, Yeah,
because I just saw like an article where they said
that they tried to reverse engineer or whatever the Roswell
crash was back then and they failed.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah. But to me, it's like much cooler to believe
that shit than to not believe it.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
It also makes sense it does.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
To me too, bro, how this world is, because like, damn, bro,
you know, they would love to like keep us blind
and just keep us right where we're at. But the
more we start to like get the information, they're like Oh,
they won't believe it.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
It just sounds fucking crazy, so they'll never believe it.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Did you know, I don't know, Like last year they
had those hearings about the UFOs and the Pentagon acknowledged. Yeah,
but during that time, there was so much political shit
just getting thrown at the wall that it just like
came and went like if that shit was like in
like ninety nine and they told us UFOs are real,
be the biggest fuck. Everybody be losing their fucking mind. Yeah,
it was just another too, like no one cared.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Here, nobody gives a fuck.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
This is so much going on, and we're like, even
if they like start exposing it, people will be completely
fine with it because it's like there's so much other
shit going on.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
I think we've been preconditioned with movies and TV shows
to if we found out aliens are real, we all
are kind of mentally, whether we know or not, just
kind of like okay with it.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, well I think they that they like, like you said,
they conditioned us, but they made aliens look like little roundhead,
little bug eye things.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
If they like, yeah, if they will they look like
the predator, We're all freaking out.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
They might look like us.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
They might feel me.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
They might look exactly like us, And that's why they
did all of that to throw us off.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
If anyone's an alien, my money, if you had, you know,
the betting favorite in Vegas would probably be Elon. You
think I think he'd be the betting favorite.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
He might be mixed with alien maybe, yeah, I think
he's like a hybrid.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I'm trying to think who else is very like alien like?
Kanye is not? No Victor Webmanyanna from the.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Spurs all right, shout trying to think about alien.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Like people, alien like people. Breeze could be an alien.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Trying to think of a real deal freaking alien. I
don't know, man, they hear though.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I feel like most of the tech guys are very
like like Mark Zuckerberg feels like he could be like
like inside of his brain, there's like do you remember
from the Ninja Turtles Crane like inside life on men
and yeah, and he's like driving the person and ship.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh yeah, that type of stuff.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Talk to me. You obviously, you know you were ahead
of the curve in terms of like doing the vlog thing.
You still do it. You still do the day to
day stuff, and then recently you've started to embrace like
the new wave of hip hop media and just media
in general, and where the attention is at the streaming shit.
What what's your thoughts on the streaming ship? I know

(29:53):
you were with Playboy Max and you went over to
h dd G ship. You're at DG sh right, Yep, Yeah,
that was a production. Yeah it would you ever dip
into the like you're obviously have gone on live with
fans and stuff, like an official Whiz stream on Twitch.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I would do a stream, I would fuck with one
or two, but I wouldn't become a streamer. I wouldn't
do it like full time.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
It's a commitment.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's a huge commitment.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
A lot goes into it, gotta there's ups and downs
every stream, ate the one, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
And then you're super exposed.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Hell exposed, and it just takes all the time away
from all the other stuff that you have to do.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Which is cool if that's how you're coming up.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, because those dudes put a lot of time into it,
put a lot of effort into it, and the ones
who win are the ones who outstream each other. It's
not a popularity contest. It's a work, hard, grind contest,
and I love that for them because they're able to
you know, come from nothing and start from real humble

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beginnings and based off of their work ethic and their
you know, communication with their fans, they're able to build
you know, their own companies and make other companies a
lot of money, which is cool.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I love.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I mean you were doing you were doing a game
like I've been your video game.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I've done that stuff, which is in
support of my you know, efforts to get in that world.
But for me personally, I can't see myself putting all
of that time into it because you know, that's what
they do.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Like that's like asking them, one of them to come
on tour, ye.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
You know, put an album out, put an album out promoted,
go on promo tour, go on tour after it different.
They might want to do a song or two, but
they ain't trying to do all of that. So it's
the same thing. Like I think when it works for
me to pop in, I pop in, I show love.
I understand the importance of the platform and support it genuinely,
and that's pretty much how that goes.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yo, you got to Uh, you were on a Jelly
Rolls album. Yep, you've done Stagecoach before. Would you ever
like do like a like a country esque like body
of work because a lot of rappers are doing country
songs right now.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I tried.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I recorded like a little country pack, Yeah, and I
listened to it and I just didn't. I didn't think
it was I didn't think it sounded right.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Thank you for that, buddy. I thought for sure you
were cooking something.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah. Yeah, because I saw like.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
You do, like a big ex of the player has
done such a good job because he's just doing him.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Thank you for putting it out. No, for sure, Yeah, no,
it wasn't it. It's not what people want from me.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah. I feel like I feel like, you know, you
gotta know what people want. You gotta know what people
want from you, and you gotta, you know, be very
self aware when you're like, yo, this sounds like I'm forcunate.
It's got to be organic too, Like.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
It's got to be organic.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
It was fun, it was cool, and as much as
I would just love to just love my own music,
it was like, that's not what I wanted to represent
myself with. And that's not I'm people. They don't want
that from me. They want to.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
One hundred. Is there a song of yours? Because you
I like the tour this summer, because you're you're doing
smaller venues. It's Taylor Gang tour. You know what I'm saying.
Chevy's opening and and Bonics will be there. Obviously Bonics
is all at all the shows, but he's on the bill.
Shouts to Bonics. Is there a song you're tired of performing?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Like?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
What is the one song? If if you? I mean,
obviously you have so many big records, but there's got
to be one that where you're just like, no.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
No, I don't have any songs that I'm tired of performing.
I love performing all my songs. I explained it as
there could be somebody who's been a fan of mine
for at least fifteen years. Christian Orange is fifteen years old,
So you can be a fan of mine for at
least fifteen years and not have ever been able to
be able to make it to one show.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
And this might be the show that you make it to.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
And if I'm tired of performing your favorite song, and
god forbid, I don't perform it or perform it with
not enough energy.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
That's gonna ruin your whole experience. It's not on me,
it's on you. I got you.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Are you going to bring out any like B side
shit or any any like random for the Newtoria. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, we're starting off like the intimate running. Then we're
gonna go do amphitheaters after. And so with the intimate run,
that's the exact point is to start with the new
music and kind of engrave that and the people show
them how to move to it, get them used to it,
and try some stuff out for the bigger stages as well,

(34:52):
and create that sense of urgency too. Like I was
talking with somebody and they told me that there was
a concert that only had two thousand tickets and that
they were just so pissed because they couldn't get one,
as opposed to.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Like, you know, having the option to get one. I
may or may not go.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
They were like, I need to get a ticket, and
I'm like, that's that's a really good feeling. It's a
good opportunity for me to connect with fans who haven't
been to some shows, or you know, sometimes the show
may be a little too far out, or it might
cost a little bit too much money do some merge.
It just creates a really good experience that I know

(35:30):
lasts forever, and especially with having new music, I've had
this feeling before. I know what this this feels like,
like you said, like this being one of my best albums,
my best album actually just as far as albums, but
as far as my collection goes. I've had projects where
I've dropped them and I felt good about them. I've
had projects where I've dropped them and I wasn't, you know,

(35:51):
as connected to them, but knowing how Cushing Orange Juice
felt just as a whole reaction wise and plan wise,
trajectory wise, this feels, you know, very very familiar. So
I love this feeling that I'm capitalized on off of it,
and I'm doing all of the right moves to make
this whole experience what it's supposed to be, not just

(36:13):
the music, but make memories.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
I saw a mixtape mount Rushmore floating around online. Did
you see that? Yeah, Big fifty was on there. Wayne.
I feel like you got to be on there because
I feel.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Like, yeah, for sure, Christian or Juice is.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Probably the greatest mixtape of Maybe I make the next one,
but who I mean, I think some somebody just generated
it on j GPT. But with that being said, who
would you have up there with you on the mixtape
Mount Rushmore. Let's say your era though, because I think
it's easy to say fifty fifty e fifties, like forever
up there.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Currency me Max B.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
So for everybody who's on the album, Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah exactly, and you're talking about like twenty ten. Yeah,
who's stay consistent with mixtapes?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Little bee shout, Yeah, it'll be.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Had a lot of ship out. Yeah yeah, and yo,
someone needs to bring back the dance, the cook the
cooking d Yeah, and everybody was saying swag yeah, yeah
shouts a little bee man, protect a little be at
all costs. Once you said that you're gonna do ampathey

(37:32):
to run after the intimate run, Yeah, have you figured
out because you're the summer that's.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
What you do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, we haven't announced it yet, but that announcements coming
real soon.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Are you How often are you doing more tie a week?

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'm still doing five days a week.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, I'm doing muy Thai five days a week. I'm
doing hot yoga three days a week now so I'm
doing all that stuff now.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Is it like, while you're working on the album you
have late night studio sessions? Is it a bitch? Like
we'll get up the next day and still nah nah,
Like like are you napping? You got like a cool
nap hour?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Like yeah, do I get a little napping?

Speaker 3 (38:10):
I feel like you kind of need it.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, I needed a little napping. After two o'clock is
when I get out of yoga. So between like I
get home around like three and I eight lunch, So
between like four and six, I get a little nap
because then I'm up and then I make sure my
kids go to sleep and all that. I'm usually I'm
awake with my kids in the morning before I go

(38:33):
to the gym, and I'm with them before they go
to bed, and then that's when I go to the studio.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
What is the difference been, Because there's obviously there's the
experience of being a dad for the first time, yeah,
and learning everything. What has been the experience having your
second kid and and and you know now that you've
cause you're your son bashes like he a little dude,
Like he's grown.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, he's up there.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
But like, what is the experience been like the second
go around for you.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
It's really awesome, like for me because I'm in a
great headspace. I'm in a great space for my family,
I'm in a great space just like as a human being.
So just having that and knowing where my values are
as well being able to do all of this stuff

(39:22):
like you said, and then make it home to my
babies in my newborn you know what I'm saying. Like
people think that you have to sacrifice that, like you
have to like for sure, you know what I mean.
But I'm like, no, I'm doing all of this and
I'm waking up going to sleep next to this motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
So it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Just to be able to balance that and know that
that's where my superpowers come from.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's dope. Yeah, Like you said,
people feel like if you have to have a certain
level of success, like your fatherhood's got to dip off, Yeah,
your personal life's got to And yeah, at times I'm
sure can but at times.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
But those times are like when it's absolutely one necessary,
when there's no other option.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
You know, it's not me giving in and you know,
saying that I can do that later. Everything revolves around
that and when the time comes then of course, you know,
we do what we have to do. But for me,
I just know how important that is to do both

(40:32):
as opposed to just one or the other.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
And you got to learn how to, like, you got
to really know how to say no to shit too.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
You gotta know when to put your foot on the
guys and when to you know, just let the car cruise.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
You still have motion, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Do the baby mamas get along. Everything's kosher.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
The baby mamas get along.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Everybody's everybody's Cool's one big, happy family.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
As far as parenting goes.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Of course. I mean you guys have always been great
co parents.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, yeah, we're really cool.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
The respect level is super duper high, the fun level
is super high, the communication is good. What else, It's
just a good team, man, Yeah, really good teams.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
You've somehow hacked that shit well, everybody being these toxic
as relationships with their ex and their kids. Mom, you
and Amber have had the shit hacked for like ten years.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Not for Shure, man.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
We figured it out for sure, And you know, I
wouldn't say it's not easy, but it is easy with her.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
We don't we don't really go through anything.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Do you feel like like when you see, like obviously
she was a big Trump supporter, she spoke at the RNC. Yeah,
but like it was funny to see like so many
people who like fucked with Amber turn up on her online,
Like like when you see that kind of shit, does
it like bother you?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I don't really read that stuff. I don't look at
that that shiit like, I'm not into it. It's better
to just act like it doesn't exist because it's not
real life. It's the Internet. It's fair.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, and that's what I explained to her too, Like
when she even made that decision, I was like, you know,
if people stop fucking what you based off of what
you do, they was just looking for a reason and
not fuck with you anyway. Yeah, so it's like it's
not even worth it.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
One hundred Yeah. Would you ever do another movie?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Wiz? Yes? Absolutely. I feel like I'm working on a
movie now.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
It's called Moses the Black Oh really yeah yeah, it's
with Omar Ebbs and some other cast members.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
I feel like you have obviously you have a you know,
a cult classic with Snoop and then you have the
really really the weird Cowboy movie.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, yeah, I have a cameo in a Cowboy movie.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
It was funny though. I liked that.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
You know, it's funny too, because like I looked at
that movie, like I'm sure like when we were growing up,
like you'd see like Nas would be in a movie,
like you go to Blockbuster and they just have a
picture of Nas, yeah, and then you'd rent it and
it would be like a quick cameo, die real quick.
Or then there'd be like you know, bust A rhymes
and exhibiting full clip.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah, you've ever bro It's the DVD days right there,
straight to dvd.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
What do you think is the worst rap movie ever?
I'm gonna say Belly too, starting the Gamers.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I didn't even watch that. What's the worst rap movie
that I've seen? I usually like all the rap movies.
I like like Kill the Season, Classic, Yeah, I like
State Property.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
I Got the hook up? Was that ship?

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I got the Hookup? Was hard? All master P movies
was hard. I'm about it was hard.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
I'm about it was dope. Yeah, master P man he
had some ship.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Mac and Devon go to high school
was hard bro for sure.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
That was a good movie.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
I always say that Belly is the best worst ever.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
The storyline gets a little trip, yes, but it's like
they threw all these like all your favorite like yeah
parts of your favorite, like yeah, all into.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
One out of respect.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I just love it though, Oh instead of I'm just
mad Hip Williams didn't do more movies because it was
in the.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Cop like started getting the DMX to like kill the
dude like that was.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
That's when it started to take a turn. They were
like like weird Malcolm X type shit going on, and
it was like there was like scarfaced remnants and then
shout out to nas who's you know? Just I love Belly,
though I love Belly. Some classic moments in that.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Oh, Snoop made like some really good The Wash that
was a good movie. Wash Bones Yeah, Bones was fire.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Yeah the wash was solid. Bones was interesting. Yeah, there's
been Yeah, shout to uh, shout to Snoop. I think, uh,
baby Boy one of the best feelings of all.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Time, baby boy bossing up? That was a good one.
Good Snoop movie you've seen bosting up?

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Oh wait, was that the new one where he's that
was paid?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
That was the pen movie.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Though I didn't see Boss It Up.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
You should watch that.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
I watched all the Member the Pimp documentaries.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, dude, Yeah, Pimp Hose down.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Down there was like, mister white folks, it was pimping.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Can they don't? They don't. They denounced themselves from that movie.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Recently, did they?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, because they said it was like, you know, pushing
poverty on America.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
I don't, I don't. I don't disagree with him.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yeah, I mean there was that era. I mean, you're
like former.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
You know what I'm saying. They grew out.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Of there, they grew up. Yeah. Yeah, shout out to uh,
shout out to those guys. Se I just remember that era,
like pimping was like a fucking Godfather was on.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
W w F Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
He had the whole train dog Like.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
He'd be like, you want some hose? Don't you just
giving people hose?

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:50):
I just saw him. I went to WrestleMania this past
weekend and he I went to an indie show and
he went.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Form being in the Nation of Domination, of being Godfather.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
And before that he was Papa Shango. Oh he was guy,
but he's running. Ah, he runs cheetahs. In Vegas now
the Strip Club, the Godfather Run Cheetahs.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Man, we've got the real host trade now. I love it.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Man, is there gonna be a de lux for this?
I feel like you kind of already kind of put out
the Deluxe because there's some stuff after the outro obviously.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yeah, its already done. You guys got everything, Cushion, Orange Juice.
I don't think I'm done.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Working for the year, though. I think I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Release some stuff that based off of like the freestyles
that I was doing, and then it would be cool
to do a Tailor Gang album before the end of
the year.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
That'd be Dopey who always would be on the Tailor
Gang album.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
These days, pretty much everybody who you heard on my
album j TI.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, pretty much every everybody.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Who you heard on on my album would be on
the Tailor Gang album, plus a few other artists maybe producers.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Are you like still actively signing new artist? Is Taylor Gang?
Or is it like I feel like you got a
lot of people you just fuck with?

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, that's really what it is. I haven't signed anybody
in a minute. We've done some management deals. Those have
been more made more sense than actual record deals.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
And things like that.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
But now that we get into like releasing more projects,
and you know, after the success of this one, just
seeing the rollout and how it happened, it's going to
open up a lot of opportunities for us to do
some things.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
What is uh, you know, obviously you're insane entrepreneur. How
did you get involved with Liquid Death?

Speaker 1 (47:38):
They came to me a.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Long time ago, definitely before COVID, but just pre you know,
blow up, and it was kind of just as far
as like growing the company and adding to to to
what the already expanding business was. But just you know

(48:02):
what I'm saying, pushing that over the top. And there
was an investment and there was also percentages and things
like that that.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
I'm shout tour boy Will who hit me up like
three days before the deadline and he was like, hey,
you got X amount of money you can get in.
I'm like, buddy, that's seventy two hours from now. Thanks
for the fucking heads up.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but it was like, yeah, it was
an investment and there's percentages that that that were you know, negotiated,
and then here we are years later and it's super
duper successful and we're happy to be part of it.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
You've done so many like side hustles. So I mean
obviously the PFL was there ever an investment we haven't
heard about. It just didn't work out, of course.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, it was like what was it?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Probably like some apps that I invested in that we
thought were going to be next level, some social media
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, some shit that we
tried out.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
It's not like anything that you know, I would like
freaking wouldn't do.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I mean with those it's like you got to shoot
a shot.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
It's hit or miss.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, some stuff works, some stuff doesn't. And you know,
the narrower the scope began to be, we were able
to focus on actual, real companies that we could help grow,
as opposed to just try to like latch onto the
next thing.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, because that's gat's gambling. I mean, when you're trying
to if you're trying to find the next Twitter.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, good luck.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, it seems like you know, sometimes it seems cool.
Sometimes you just gotta get out of there before it
even turns into anything. And a lot of those situations
like that's what it was, was we were out of
there before it even you know, turned into that.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Yo, You and Currencies relationship has been so like you
guys are synonymous with each other. Your guys' careers are, like,
you know, very similar trajectory wise. You guys been working
together for over fifteen years, right, so yep, just gave
us an album a few years ago together. Talk about
y'all's friendship and just y'all's bond because Currency and You,

(50:15):
like you guys obviously had a very similar come up.
He continued to just run up the underground, run up
the catalog, turn into this icon culturally obviously you go
and you're you've turned in a fucking pop star, you
know what I mean? Like, but you guys always stayed
locked in with y'all's relationship, Like, man, how important is that?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Super important?

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Just because that's like my real friend and besides music,
you know, it took us like two months to record
our album because we were just watching movies.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
And smoking the whole time.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Who we didn't want to record. We just wanted to
hang out. And as long as we have that, like,
that's all we really care about. Like the music is
is a byproduct of our lifestyle. And I always see
him happy he's buying cars like every freaking week, and
that's like.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
The model cars.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Like he does like a whole channel for that, like
where he like commentates and everything, and he's that's the
stuff that he's passionate about. And that's what the people
who love Spita, they love him for that because he
goes on tour and he wraps literally so he can
do that to support his Yeah yeah, yeah, and you

(51:30):
know that's why we love him. And for me, like
it was always my plan to like kind of you know,
navigate the industry and do the whole marketing and you
know what I'm saying, Like that was always my thing.
Like even when we met, I would be on the
couch on my computer and you know what i mean,

(51:51):
tapping in blah blah.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Blah, and he was just.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
He would he would admire like my work ethic when
it came to that, because he understood parts of that world.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
But he wasn't.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
He would just put his music out and be like,
you know what I mean, it's cool, like whatever happens happens.
And the people who love him took care of him,
and I was more like we got fans in Arizona,
we got fans and blah blah blah, like the technical
you know what I'm saying. So it's like we've always
played our roles when it comes to that, and we

(52:27):
always will and we always include each other, you know,
and everything that we're doing, which is just because we're
more brothers than anything. And it's like with this album,
our song on there, it sounds so freaking good, you
know what I mean, because it is we never lost

(52:48):
that combination and no matter what worldwide record I do,
I'm always able to get back on my bro and
make that sound that people love us for. And you know,
so that's the music side of it that I'm that.
I'm really happy that people always get to enjoy in

(53:10):
our friendship. Ain't never going nowhere, never has and never will.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Yo. You you it was obviously speculating, and you've talked
about it because I remember when you got on the
Super High remix with Ross and Neil, I for sure
thought you were gonna sign with MMG.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Yeah, that was a crazy time.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
That was a great record, by the way, Yeah, because
that was like your I would say, like your mixtape
Buzz was just so crazy at that time, G felt
like the biggest shit ever they just signed Meek Mill,
something made came out? What what was was there? Like,
obviously you you made the intentional decision to you know,
do your own thing. But was there ever like a

(53:51):
a like that situation or another situation that you seriously
considered doing before just deciding like now we're gonna do
this our own way.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
No, I never considered signing with anybody all. Always knew
I wanted to just do Taylor Gang and build my
own way. I didn't know what it looked like, but
I definitely knew that I had put myself up there
with those guys as opposed to like being somebody like

(54:19):
right that they and I love Ross and that was
like a you know, it was a huge compliment for
him to want to sign me, but that was just
the wrong time to.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Try to do it because I was just so popping
on my own.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
It was like yo, like nothing that nobody could have.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Done for me ever that I wasn't going to do
for myself. And I was very self aware of that.
And it takes like a real person to tell you that, like,
I love you, but you can't do more for me
than I'm going to do for myself.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I saw you fanning out, which was a dope moment
to see.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Yeah, I feel like sometimes we just get so jaded
by like going to shows enjoying shit.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah, a lot of people I don't know, man, I'm
not too cool to just show my appreciation.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Wrap the words.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
That's what I go to concerts for, to get loose
and to trap the words. And I want to experience
it and to see it live. You know, Wayne is
influential to a lot of different you know, generations, but
for us, he's always gonna be our goat, our allegend.
We're gonna remember, you know, the Lighter Flick. We gonna

(55:26):
remember the mixtapes. We remember Money on My Mind, we
remember go DJ like we're gonna remember you know everything.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
My father like son, very underrated.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Come on, man, so yeah those we were singing that outloud.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Shout out to Tie too. Ty's performance look insane. Yeah,
on the screen he had Draysonatra dressed like a fucking CEO.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
It was tight. He made me wear a jail outfit too.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
How dope has it been? Because I feel like, you know,
Ty has been on a pretty crazy run with the
Vulture stuff Carnivals a number one how dope was it
for you to just kind of see as a friend
as like a fan, like just like that wave. Obviously
you and you have other connections, but I'm just curious, like,

(56:14):
what was it like for you to just see that,
because like it was it was so dope just to
see Tye go to an arena or a stadium and
just play his like they won't even perform, there's no
fucking microphone.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
I love seeing the people that I respect and admire
get that same love, respect and admiration across the board
because aside from being you know, friends with Tie, he's
a super talented artist, Like he's alien extremely talented artist

(56:47):
in the studio, he's like a monster, you know. And
just to know that somebody that people consider one of
the greats and you know, uh, somebody who if they
say it's good, then the rest of the world say
it's good. You know what I'm saying talking about, Yay

(57:07):
have that much respect for ty and push him to
the top and push him on his platform, and I
mean that's like that's a win to me for everybody.
And I just see it as like That's why I'm
your friend.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Because I see you saw from the jump.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yeah, I mean not even just from the jump, but
just I know what they see at you, like I
see that exact same thing. I know exactly why they
feel that way. Sorry, my phone's usually off.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Obviously You've done a lot of collab projects. Would you
do because I'm hearing you and Larry on this album,
I'm hearing the l Russell record. I know you and
the Russell I think did two?

Speaker 1 (57:46):
I got we did two that day, We did three
that day.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Actually, would you do just throwing those two names out there,
because I feel like a Larry June Whiz project would
be insane? But would you do another collab project with
another artist?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:58):
I would definitely do another, uh collab project with an artist.
That might be the best thing for me to do
after this solo joint.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Yeah, let the solo shit, you know. Yeah, either do
the Taylor gam or do it like a low collab project.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah, that might be the best thing to do.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
And then you're kind of like you're like independent now right.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
I think a lot of people know that.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Yeah, I think they know because.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
You were with Atlantic forever before that Warner Time.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
We released this album through BMG and They were really cool,
super cool with the whole process. But it's like a
licensing through BMG. BMG, so we still own it. But
excuse me. Yeah, BMG was really really cool to work well.
We did have meetings every week everything. They came to

(58:51):
the studio listen to the album like four times. They
waited for me to get done, all the way till
the last final day till I turned it in. Yeah,
they weren't tripping at all. It was a really good
process too for me to feel free, but to still
also use a system to get this album to where

(59:11):
it was supposed to be at.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Yo, is it like when you heard? Because because I
think to see you again. The biggest biggest music video
on YouTube is.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
One of them. It's definitely top five.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
I think it's like top two or three.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
It's top three maybe.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Yeah, it's like insane. I think it's like the what
was the Asian guy's.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Name, Gangham style?

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Dude, that gam style.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
I think it's like either that or baby Sharks.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Those are the three.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Then yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
That is insane.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Yeah, that's gotta be cool.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Yeah, and I feel like that song you could take
that like like you performed that song after Kobe passed
away and the Lakers game, which had to be a tough.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Thing that it was tough, but it was an honor
as well.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, and as that song is gonna live forever, yeah,
world worldwide.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Well, the new album is incredible. Go get it. Yes,
Vinyls on the Way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Vinyls on the Way, Tour on the Way, Merch on
the Way. Yeah, yep, go support it. Man Cushions used
two of them things, two of them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Let's go bulet cap show boom fire.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
To this camera.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Ye just say check me out on the Blue Leg
Cap podcast. Ready, Yo, what up your boy? Whiskalief for man? Okay,