#555 - Tash

Interview with Tash on The Bootleg Kev Podcast.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Yo, what's up with it?

Speaker 2 (00:00):
This boy task right here for the world famous alcoholists
and right about now I'm telling them a boot Leg
cav podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
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That's right, let's get into the interview. Bootleg CAB Podcast
special guests in here, the legend tash tash what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh man, same fight, dimming around, just working man, working, working, working, just.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
As people might know, and everything from the group of alcoholics,
of course, and as people might know that a lot
of that that that living up to the image caught
up to me.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
So are you trying to tell me that a member
of the alcoholics is not drinking as much as.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
This sober halics that's what we call it. You guys
are sober holics.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Now, we don't really drink like that.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
When that it took a toll like twenty something years
of just every single night as a party, every single
day you wake up as a party, every time you
got something you know to do that day. Uh, you know,
drinking is involved with it some kind of way. So
you know, I had to, you know, kick back and
and pull on the rains like Santa Claus slowed down
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
So I always wondered this because you guys are amazing
m season. I mean you, I mean, damn dude. You
guys got classic albums. You guys have your fingerprints on
so much of this West Coast shit that people don't
even realize it's insane. But was ever a certain point
in time where y'all got like two or three albums
in where you were like, I know, because I know

(02:10):
you guys went from the Alcoholics to the Licks right right,
were you guys regretted just going all in with the
alcoholics thing?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I mean, you know, with a name like the Alcoholics.
First of all, we was a young group, kind of
sure and everything, so people miscing screwed the word alcoholics
with like the bomb in the streets, with the little
you know, the three dollars vodka and all this. You know,
they they took the name and we got boycott, not boycott,
but we called it. We got banned from a lot
of shit like we had. We got invited to Soul
Train and then we showed up there and they saw

(02:40):
the name and they was like, hold on, we can't
put Alcoholics on national TV. And like we we couldn't
tour with trycoll Quest through the Bible Belt because of
the name, and a lot of TV shows and shit
turned it down because it was like we're trying to
get away from the negative word alcoholics, you know what
I'm saying. But we spelled it different and told motherfuckers
that we you know, we're really anti drinking and driving.

(03:00):
We had a lot of positive ship to say too,
but that get overlooked.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know, but did you did you guys? I mean,
obviously everyone should be getting triagered to driving, but I
can imagine once you guys start losing out on ship,
it's like okay.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, but see that's whatened that ship backfire too, because
when we I don't know if somebody's idea was, let's
change the name. Since they called us the Licks. You know,
it's the Licks, baby, it's the Licks. They call us
that anyway, let's change the name officially to the Alcoholics.
So we did that for one album, which was a
disaster because nobody that really fucked with us on the
alcohol you know what I'm saying with the experience, right yeah,

(03:34):
XO experience, we call ourselves the Licks, and it did
not work because we got no more you know, say,
we didn't get it else that we wasn't getting as
the Alcoholics.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
So that was the last album on Loud.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't know, I get I get mixed up, man,
but that was that was the single. Yeah you can yeh,
and actually it was it wasn't. That was the most
selling single that we ever put out. It was one
that tongue vibe for sure.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
So and that was like, oh one, I don't it
was around I'm just trying to think of my head
what year of school I was in.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
We we've been over here.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
We got signed in ninety three, so a lot of
the dates and times and like that due to you
know what, I was all this. I get mixed up
because I know time pierce. Like when we told with
Big I know that was ninety six, ninety five before
he passed, right, And then it's kind of like it's
kind of like I get things. I got all the

(04:31):
memories of my head, but the day got time.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
You got to like work backwards, you remember what.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I got to remember a physical thing, what was happening
right then to know what day and time it was?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Though? How did you Eat Swift and Jerrow initially meet
back in the day.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Man East Swift?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
We was We was already rocking as a group called
Task Is Swift in the eighties and East Swift met
Jay roll Through. I don't know if it was cousin
keV or we got home with named cousin Kevin. I
think he bought Jo to the table and we met
J Rowd.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
That's what the King T's and the you know mixed
Matter of Space DJ Pools and we started you know,
running with them, and it just turned into were just
part of the you know we Telor wanted to do
a Taylor's King T by the way, he wanted to
do like a posse thing like he was.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
He had an album coming out and.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Instead of That's why I always say We're forever grateful
Tuning because instead of putting out his single as just
King T and everything, he said, nah, I got this
group called the Alcoholics.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I want to put them on.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
So his first single on the Active Full album or
the Trifling album, he featured the Alcoholics. And really that's
how we got our start and never looked back, and.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Never looked back. Where year was that? What youre was
the King T? Well, I guess you would have to
do a lot of drunken DISCREMT.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
No, we started, we started runing with King T.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
The first time I really kicked it with him was
the act of full videos at the liquor Store.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I'm in that motherfucker somewhere. It says I got to
look back.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
But from that point on and then East Swift got
hired on a random He was already DJing for Me
and Jro. Me and Jael had a demo you know
this and that, and King T had a DJ named
Keith Cooley.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I know you've rather the name Keith Cooley.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, she shot out on the thing. And I don't
know what happened with Keith Cooley.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
But the night before Teeler was going on tour with
n W A Scarface, I mean n W A Ghetto
Boys and all this, something happened with Keith Cooley.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
With Tiler needed to DJ, and Swift.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Just happened to be over there cutting his head because
Swift he good on the cuts, but he cuts, you know,
so he he basically was cutting King T's hair. It's
God's work and shit, Tiler needed the DJ right then,
so he Swift went to go cut.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
King T's hair, came back with a DJ and job.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, and he packed his ship up because I was
living with Swift and it's pops and ship at the time,
and so he packed his shit up and went on
the road with King T and never looked back.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
You know, that is amazing. So when I was a kid.
My best friend's name is rams. It's Rockers little brother
from Dilated. I know, I know, yes, So listen. So
Ramses came to LA when he was sixteen seventeen. I'm
like twelve. So he's died brother too, yeah, like baby

(07:12):
and buddy and everybody. So yeah, so listen. So he
comes back from LA and he's like, Yo, my brother's
in this rapt because you know, Rock's dad is Pope,
had a lot of children, you know what I'm saying.
So he comes he comes back from this trip to
beat his brother and shit. And then he's telling me
and he's like, bro, I was hanging out with the
exhibiting alcoholics and and did one of y'all have an iraq?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah? He's like I had a gold thing.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
So so I'm hearing all this shit and not at
the time, I'm like twelve years old, you know what
I'm saying. And uh. And so that's when I got
like exposed to like the liquor cruit thing, you know
what I'm saying. And then I met Raka like right
when the platform dropped. Wow. And then when an expansion
team came out, we took a road trip out here
and we went to like uh Fat Beats, and we

(08:01):
went to the I'm Released party and it was just
but but I got so like I was like entrenched
and being like a fan of like y'all exhibit and
obviously Dilated and all that ship and yeah. So it's
like it's crazy because you because Liquid Crew has so
much to do with like so much amazing parts of
like la hip hop. You know what I'm saying. Between

(08:23):
you guys obviously King T the Architect and the Far Eye,
and you know, I feel like Dilate is kind of
like quasi Liquid Crew. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
They I don't know if there was a liquor Crew,
but they be everywhere.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Like you open up that Focused Daily booklet, you see
evidence in there with a lot of hair and rockets
in there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I still keep a tune with EV all the time
and we're working on something actually. But I'm just proud
of them, you know what I'm saying, because we all
kind of started together, right and I see what V
went well, RockA went with, the group went with this
and that, and you know it's it's amazing. I like
to watch It's like watching a plant grow. It takes
some time. But as you see it, you know, and

(09:01):
I just think that like EB is underrated man, oh
my god.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
For sure. It's almost like he hates being Like Evidence
is such a talented guy. He would prefer to just
make music and no one knew who the fuck he
is exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Like that's what it is, like he he's like an
introvert for sure, you know, talented.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Shout out to Alchemist too, it.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Was yeah, man, shout out my favorite producers right now
for sure. So, uh, you guys, how at what point
in time? Because signing Aloud in nineteen ninety three is very,
very very early. That's pre wou Tang.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
That's why I might think were the first group, but
technically we not, though who is uh let me see?
Uh it was a group called mad Cap okay, okay,
drop the album before we did, and then they signed
Twisted and Twisted what happy with his contact?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
He said, fuck this shit, he did his own thing,
so we can't.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Right after that, So that's crazy ninety three. That's like
that's like ground floor loud record shit.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, that's what I still talked to Steve. You know
a lot of loud records in the house last night.
There was was there in case. I know, we went
to the exhibits album release party last night. He was
it was text but what.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Was I saying?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
All the like it was a whole Loud section there
was Yeah, so no shout out, Noah, Oti Arlene, a
bunch of people from Loud.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Like so, you guys like it's crazy because we think
of Loud as like such a East Coast label and
of course, like obviously in spirit it is and you know, tang,
big pun, et cetera, et cetera. But you're one of
the first groups exhibit is you know, at the speed
of life, restless, forty days, forty nights. What what How

(10:45):
did you guys end up getting like Steve Steve's attention
and like like was that something where he was like
out out west looking for talent or about us? Yeah,
let me get this story straight too.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Basically it was a guy about the name of Fabi
and Dub.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
We called him Fade and he was real close with
Swift us you know this, and that he's a love
war ship.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
We to make these demos and you know, me and
Je was the flood, the l a underground seeing.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Swift was a DJ. He was a popular DJ. He
was getting booked for like colleges us. We're young though,
So basically we went to mad Cap was already on Loud,
and we went to a studio session in Pasadenas somewhere,
and during that studio session we played Fade the demo
and he was like Steve Ripkins right hand man at
the time. Actually, first he got us to deal with

(11:34):
He got us a deal with Freeway Rick. Yes, Freeway
Rick not Rick Wall.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Was the one who interviewed I've interviewed Freeway Rick Ross too.
I just saw him at Snoop Savanthia the other night,
no big extras event. But yeah, so you guys actually
had to deal with Freeway Cross first.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
If you look on Drink Champs and all the rest
of the podcasts that he do, he alway shout us out.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, I was just close to the alcoholics.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
But what happened was he got locked up right you know,
during this time, and he called from prison and he
heard through the grapevine and we had some something else
going on with this Loud record label or something like that.
It was his blessing. He said, man, go get it.
I don't want to nothe just just take it to
the top. You know, and this and that, and but
then he ended up getting out this and that, so

(12:14):
you know, shout out freeway with man. I just see
him in Vegas about I don't know how long ago,
but you know.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, yeah, I know he had told me he was
doing he was doing some like back behind the scenes
financing on some big artists too, like I think you
need a baker, like a lot of.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Real like he always got his hands in something. He
was selling his book. Well that what I said, taking
me a free book.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, he's a hustler, bro, that's evident. But no, but yeah,
I mean obviously, I mean he's known for that. They
kind of stole his life story and did the TV
show great show, by the way, a great show. You
guys end up with loud. At what point in time
does exhibit come into the fold, And obviously you guys

(12:56):
had to have kind of made that introduction. I'm assuming because.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I think I don't remember the how you can I
remember that the Ziba was a he was aggressive, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
And every time I have seen we want.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Some MC ship and Ziba used to get down like
he really like he he looked like that, but he
had like this path he had like a he was
smarter than a lot of people, you know what I mean,
Like he already knew what he wanted. We freestyle of life,
you know what I'm saying, Like we get picked up
by a label, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
If not, we're gonna do this. Unlet's see what happens
with this.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
And that's a crazy statement. We freestyle of life. Yeah,
I like that. Here we are, it's worked out.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, so you know Zif he we we we were
just hanging around the underground circles and we all just
saw some MENI like and this and that, and he started,
you know, really hanging around with us. We start going
up to you know, Friday night flavors and all these
different things serving on them, and then we've got the
serving people in the clubs and it was just.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
That when you used to like see rappers like rapping outside.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Once he became the yes zhibit man, he was like
he he I never seen nobody with a with a
determination is out the world for this, Like like he
knew he knew all this ship the ZIPB is doing
now he told us he was going to do this.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Then that was his plan.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Like we didn't have no plan and shout out to
his dad too was a big part of that too,
because he got a guidance with the military, upbringing and
stuff like that. Destructure I ain't never had no structure
like that. My dad got murdered when I was young,
you know, so I kind of been freestyle in that life,
you know, freestyle of life ever since. But shout out
Exhibit His album came out yesterday.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
It's incredible.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, we went to the ship.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm I'm in my fifties, but man, we hit three
parties last night. Man, we went to Exhibits first, then
we went to Snoop Dogg party, and then we went
to the Busy.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm tripping. That's the day before yesterday.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
You ain't been asleep, But I say we were the
three live ass parties in one night.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because Exhibited two Things did one of
the night before, and then Snoop did yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Night before we went to Zibit Things. We went to
Snoop Dogg Things.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Shout out snow Too returned my text snope and I
saw y'all say what up?

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah yeah, so and then.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
We went to uh the Far Side and the hieroglyphic.
I mean the Souls of Mischief went platinum the same week,
like two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh shit, so they had a big party for them.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Shout out shinne swoops, rise casts will I am.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
That's crazy. I didn't know that that was it. I
would have went to that party too, funck shout to
the far side and hiro.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, let's say that's how the shit be tripping me out, Like,
how y'all go platinum the same week thirty years later?
I thought it passing me by ben platinum long time ago.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
But you know what it is, a lot of those
like older records, they're probably technically platinum in gold. It's
the label they have to like there's some sort of
like where the label has to reach out to oria
A to make sure it's certified. That like because my
homie had a record, they're actually up on the wall
over there. They're both gold and like they were gold

(15:59):
forever and uh, but he was waiting on his label
to like, I don't know, make get a certified or whatever.
But yeah, like passing me by should be fucking platinum,
Like what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
While I was assuming and then on top of that,
it's like like like how do you judge, Like, how
do you like there's no more physical copies, So if
you sold eight hundred thousand physical copies, what are they
selling now to make.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah that I don't there's a certain amount of streams
that equal and album sale. I want to say it's
I want to say it's fifteen hundred strings equals on album.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Sale fifteen other strange.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I don't want to be don't put that in black
and white, but I think it's something like that.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's ridiculous. But anyway, we need to take our shit back.
That's what I say.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
That's why it's like, you know, like the direct to
fan ship is making a comeback. You know where it's
like if you got a fan base, like fuck the platforms,
Like obviously you want your ship up for everybody, but
you want to be able to like have that direct
connection to fans where they spend money with you.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
You don't you have to be doing right now? We
ask that right now. I got a whole independent thing
going on. Did you hear the record?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yes? I love the video by the way, Okay, yeah,
did a great job.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Shot out to Nate, Nate the great bag God, my
husband and wife.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's what I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're back,
man said, I see you running around.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, I'm trying to, you know, get back into Google because,
like I said, I took a little hiatus just to
get my shit together, you know, sober holic, Yeah, smokaholic, smokaholics.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah. Yeah, but no, it's crazy because like I you know, uh,
I think back to like your your like uh when
I think atash bro used to be like a superhero
to me, dog like he used to be with it
now like for like Wrap Life is one of the
most fucking and it's a perfect album. It's a fucking classic.

(17:52):
It's it's one of them ones man. Yeah, and it's
slept on like for people who don't know, like go
fucking go run and get tash rap Life. That ship
is from track one to the end. It is amazing.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Ple check that man shout out the same mooning Malik Levy,
Steve Riskin, Rich, Isaacson.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
What because that came after Liquidation, right, because Liquidation came
out and then at the time table Okay, yeah, yeah,
it came out after Liquidation.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
It came out after yeah, yeah, yeah, because I.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Want to say rap Life was ninety nine. It was yeah,
so you do that.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I got a song called smoke Fest ninety nine on it.
Cast shout, I was gonna say without cast I was
looking right there.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Okay, yes, sir? What what what was the thought process
you guys? Drop Liquidation? Uh? Hip Hop Drunkies was a
big record for you guys? Shout at what I want
to get into that too? What what what motivated you
to say I gotta I gotta get a solo one off?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I mean to tell you the two we started out
as solo artists as before, right, I met Jo and
everything and the funny Boy bout me and j was
never supposed to do out group, but none of thee
It was like Task.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Was over here, j Row was over here. We have
other people's crew.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, it was a crew. And then we made a demo.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Called I Guess Funky, and we did one called Past
the Joint And I had to be like eighty eight
eighty nine or something like this.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, are old? I was born in eighty seven?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Are you serious? God? Damn, that's where the baby face
come from. Then?

Speaker 2 (19:21):
All right, well but anyway, we did this demo tape.
Oh no, actually we did a song called I Guess
Funky and we used the Roger like the the sample
from Rogers Zapp and Roger. People went crazy for the song,
so they said, may y'all got to do more.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
So we did a couple. We did one called Past
the Joints.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
So we was ahead of the curve before all the weed,
you know what I'm saying, like, uh, past the joint
And then it was unanimous, like everybody was like, y'all
sound so different that y'all should do more shit together
because it's like, you know, when you hear groups and
ship like that's in effects and a lot of groups
they rapped, you can tell they have the same day
in the group because they rapped similar you know what

(20:00):
I'm saying, like EPM D. You know, of course, so
j Row style and my style was like ying and
yang night and day or whatever whatever, So you know,
I think that's what made people pay attention to it.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Kind of yeah, you know, rap life was like, uh man,
just stellar, stellar body of work.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Actually, Steve Ripkins Pops Jewels had a lot to do
with that too. A word Western piece, Yes, you know,
that's who got me over there. On Sony You all this,
but Rap Life was like a I was trying to
do something I was trying to do. I had a
concept for the album because, like you said, everybody thought
it was from New York and so what I wanted
to do was show people that we cool with New

(20:43):
Yorkers and we got a style from the West Coast
that they love over there.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
So I was trying to unify this city or whatever.
R right, Well, ray Ward was on the album, you right.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
If We started out with a lot of the alcoholic
wool tang mob d of course Big One, so we
we we're cool with all these new and they got
an LA office, so we used to be up there
every day. You know what I'm saying. But what was
I saying that was that was the beauty of it.
It was like we had this East Coast, you know,

(21:12):
international love and everything. They ain't really like gangster rapper
kind of pigeonhole for LA, Like this is what LA
sounds like.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
No, for sure, you guys had your own thing going.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Each Swift on the beach, Yes, and then with Rap
Life and everything. What I tried to do was I
wanted to come with a single myself. This one song,
remember the song on there when I with the actually
Doctor Dan and the exhibit and ended up using it.
But I have one first, but the Dunk Dune d D.

(21:40):
I had a song that was about to be my single,
and then I don't know how it happened, but rock
Wiler that we with Redman and them did the beat.
So we had it all set up for me that
to be my single, and then all of a sudden,
Snooping and dropped the.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Dre dropped the same.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Champel was like, hold up time, we can't do this.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
So we had to go back to the drawing board
and I said, let's do the one with Ray Kuan.
And what the plan was. I was gonna come up
with the song with Ray Kuan, let him know that
you know.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
We the song is actually called rap like it's called
rap Life.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
And then I wanted to come right back with the
song I did with Snooping them Snoop, I mean snoop zip.
I did a song called Jesus G's with Me Snoop
corrupt zibit. And I'm trying to sew you know that
that I get down with anybody, you know, no matter
who it is, and that said backfire. Once I did that,
everyone I dropped this ta with Ray Kuan. Everybody's thinking
I'm from New York for some reason, even though I

(22:30):
filmed it right here Inglewood.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
That the race track is crazy, got.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Dayton's and all kinds of la sitting there, they still
say he wants me from New York. So I don't
know what they had to do with anything else, but
I got that stamp a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
What you guys have been on some legendary tours you
mentioned obviously to him with Big Right. I remember you
guys to Wutang too right, Yeah Tang? And what was
the other it was? Who else was on that tour
that was just allowed?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
When it was on the first tour with Wo saying
I was a promotional tour And imagine like you got
twelve like I saw.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
You guys did like a huge festival. I feel like
that was like.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
We do a lot of shit that people don't. It
goes under the radar. I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
What was it like though, you're the West Coast group,
but you're touring with Big Right. This is after Ready
to Die.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yes, First of all, House Biggie, he only had two
albums First of all, what's that like, Biggie.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's why, man, when all the.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Static and the beef and all the East West shit
and all that shit, you gotta understand that we don't
build like long lasting relationships with people from the East
before that. So we wasn't we wasn't about to just
jump in because really I knew that it was not
true about the Biggie setting up Pock and all that.
We know that was bullshit off the rip. So we
just you know, basically, we just played, you know, I

(23:49):
played the fence. We just played the background when it
was jumping. Because they asked us to go on this
tour and they hand picked us, you know what I mean.
So they got love for the West Coast, but I don't.
I don't get another people's politics and shit like that.
But it was weird because it was the only West
Coast group on the tour.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
How as big as a dude though, man.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Like hilarious, man like you know, like he was the
biggest King T fan. He used to tell us every
day like like where's King T.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I'll come in here with you. I forgot why wasn't on
the tour.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
But Biggie was like reciting his lyrics every day like
he was like a super duper you know, king t fan.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know, did he ever try to hang with you
guys when they came to drinking?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Nah, he knew better than that. But he's a smoke
a lot. I see, he wasn't known as a drinker.
He smoked, and back then I wasn't really smoking that much,
so I'd be high drunk.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
You know. We got a lot of tours like.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then uh, you guys obviously have
such a great relationship and working relationship with Woo. I
know y'all kind of helped helped get them on the
on the radar alloud and ship od Uh. I feel
like was kind of like I feel like he was

(25:06):
like your spirit animal, Like when like in a weird
like reverse universe, ODB and Tash on a record could
have been the same person, Like you guys have like
a very unique style of rapping and like very like
you know what I'm saying, Like that's so well, what
was what was it like? Just just just being being
close with a guy like ODB man Like he was.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Just like a different breed of person, like he just
how do you say it? Like he he lived free,
you know what I mean, until he got locked up,
But he was free as a bird. He just did
what he wanted to, said what he wanted to, you know,
like anything else. When you when you when you get
a toxicated and you get too intoxicated, it starts to
be a problem. You know what I'm saying, And this

(25:46):
and that. But as far as him as a spirit
and as far as his his character and his values
and morals and ship like that, he's you can't beat
the odb man. And it's sad how things played out. Damn,
you got me thinking, Man, I won't know what to say,
you know what I mean? He was just wonderful kind man,
one of the kind.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Any crazy road stories with Wu Tang.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
See that's why I was like, I can't do that
Wolf Tang in general. Just I mean ship, everybody does that.
I have said these allion times like the ones and ship.
But ah, man, I remember one time and me and
Meph we said we weren't gonna tell. As a matter
of fact, I can't even tell this story. Put it
this way, mefing man got hands. He beat up a pimp.

(26:31):
One time he beat up a pimp.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
That's how I can't say that, you.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Know, because I don't know what nigga situations is.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
That's how you get sucked up with mother talking though
you today he's supposed to be talking. But we had
a lot of a lot of great times with Wolf
Tang and ship like that. We all married with children now,
so I can't tell you that.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
All you gotta know is Mathew Man beat up a
pimp road.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, see met the man got hands in the circumstances
in which every reason too. Man, if I told you
the circus, that's why meth said, don't ever tell nobody
this story and ship.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
But I heard him tell the motherfucker somewhere. Oh he
told it.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, but he ain't give me permission too, So that's it.
He married. I mean, not gonna see I'm talking too much.
Shot to anyway, shout out the meth Man.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
All like I say is just like we was there
and just like I said, watching a plant grow and
everything like when we went on that first promotional tour,
I didn't see the shit working like it, did, You
know what I'm saying. Because you got ten people with
different personalities hoosters, you know what I'm saying, They're not
used to a promotional tour that we don't get paid for.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
This were just promoted for.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Loud recording, the albums coming out and this, and so
it just led to a whole bunch of just.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well, I mean we got a little bit of like
that what's that documentary that came out the show? Remember
the show Big was in it. But you kind of
saw a little bit. I mean, when you have like
you said, when you got ten people, nine people, whatever
it is, it's like there's just no way that there's
not going to be like shit going on.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, and then a lot of times that everybody got
their own life. So people, you know, it'll be eight
of them and then two of them's at home doing right.
I just to trip off Ghosts man, ghosts, peoples and ship.
But ghost was like intriguing to me because it's the
way the map this back when he used to way
the math everywhere and sit like that. I was like this,
you know what I'm saying. I was just looking like
they different. They got it, man, they got it.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
So you were on the first promo run where you
guys are are you guys pushing coast to coast or
twenty one and over with with them at that time.
Twenty one.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Now we're pushing we're pushing twenty one over. I don't
know if it came out yet, but I know Make
Room is the Lick Baby, Yeah, that was out, and
then then they're pushing Meta Man and Protect your Neck,
got it. So it's before the first albums came out.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Damn. That's crazy, dude.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, And it would just be like like like everybody
knew that Wu Tang was going to do something, but
I didn't know it was gonna be.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
The biggest group to ever like this cultural klys I did.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
They got their own Nikes and there's a Wu Tang
video game.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Incredible man, Hit Kwan. Everybody had their own nicks.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
It was interesting, you know what I'm saying, Like having
all these personalities all different, you know what I mean, who.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Did you bond with the most on the road? Who
did y'all have like the most, like the biggest bond
with out hanging when you guys are on that run.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Back then, I probably say I just wanted to probably
O dB yeah after wow, you know, but but we
all bill we pours with all of them, like Ray Kwan,
that's my boy, shout out the way Meth, Me and
Meth was club Matthews to get out of bitches, though,

(29:23):
like for some reason he was like the flys and
ship like.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah, I mean like that's kind of like you know
he was.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, everybody wanted Meth.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
But that's what's up though, But but I got my
own story with all of them for sure.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Was yo was h shout out to uh On. You
mentioned the song a little bit earlier on Rap Life.
You had Outcasts on Smoke Fast ninety nine trying to
fill the agony to what if that's it is a
crazy like just to think back, like you had ray
Corn on that motherfucking album Outcast. Did you an outcast

(29:57):
have like already like a relationship or was it something
where you were like, ya, I'm working on an album. I
want to get outcast to reach out.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, like like rest in peace to reco away everything.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
But he used to like this back before, like the
smartphones and all this shit and everything. But he just
show me so much love. He's like, anytime you come
to Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Organized noise man.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, but this is back when the Freaknick Remember the
freak Nick I listen.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I was born in nineteen eighty seven. I've only heard
about that.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Okay, damn, I keep forgetting you.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
But of course, of course I know what the Freaknick is.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yes, but I used to go out there Atlanta and
funk with them during that them times and shit, and
they just open their doors to us.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
And you know what was the freaknick?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Like, oh man, it was freaky. It was like before
social media.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
You know, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
A trip because it was like not I'm gonna say lawless,
not lawless as far as crimes and shit, let that go.
But it's like the whole city got took over by that.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
There's just no rules.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah by this this this, this freaknik shit. It was
just cracking everywhere you went in Atlanta. It was crazy.
I got thrown it. I went a couple of years
in the whole and one one year I got thrown
in jail right when I got off the plane. And
why to listen to Freaknick through.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
The like they're waiting for you.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Was somewhere and the next thing I know him in
jail and you could kind of see like they had
these little windows of the jail everybody taking turns looking
at it. Because the freaknick was going on right outside
of the jail.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
They lied me up for the.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Weekend and ship until you missed out that one. Yeah,
but that was just one of the mini.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I know you're working on you just like you said,
you just dropped the new song, sir, you are you
working on a new album? Are you? What do you?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, well, actually I got a bunch of albums worth
shit ready to go and everything. I'm just looking for
the right the right situation, I guess, you know. So
I dropped this song right here. It took legs of
I mean groo legs of his own. It's called Attention
as a Drug and if you hear it, we we
sampled a sample that try call Quest used before. Right,

(31:47):
So with that being said, it's only right for the
remix and shit I had to do, you know, get
somebody from Tried, So I got q Tip on the remix,
I got Exhibit on the remix, I got King T
and the Licks on the remix, Dang the Far Why,
and I got Sway in the Morning doing the intro
at the intro and everything.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
So everybody that heard said it is about to be.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
The song of the summer.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
So you got the Far on there.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah, the Far is on it too. He set it off.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Man. Focused Daily is such a great album. You guys
should do, Like I feel like there should be like
a uh we never got a Liquid Crew album. You
guys should come together and just be like, hey.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's my bucket list. Man, it's hard to get.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Did y'all ever like even kick the idea around of
like doing like a compilation.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, we did, and I think that it's still gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
But I just think that everybody that was a vested
initially because you have understand like Madly was in the
Liquor Cool he went on the dude, you know, mad
living shit, he out of here multi and shut out
the map.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
By the way, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
You don't know that.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
When I think of the Liquid Crew, I think, if
you guys king t X, we took.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Him on the fuck we went. We went on the
Warp Tour.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
We took That's crazy, by the way, we took the
Liquor Cool with Is, We took Exhibit we took Mad Live,
the Farwide, filled the Agony Recipes, Beef and Dontrell.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
We took all these people and they just ended up
being superstars.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Mad It's crazy, one of the most prolific.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's what they It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
That's another one. I was there when he was just
getting his feet wet in the thing shout out to
his brother.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Oh no too, Yeah, Oh that was incredible. Man? Were
you like? Was his beat always like super unique? Alway?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
When I met him, That's what happened, like Jack. I
met Jack first, and he gave me a demo of
the loop Pack. I think it was a loop packed demo.
I know they was thinking about. I don't know if
there's just something independent before that, but I remember when
I heard it, excuse me, mad Lib mad lists production
reminded me of e Swift, like it had that that

(33:49):
sounds like.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Something something producers and ship like.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
If you hear that beat, you could tell that damn
before you even know who did the beat. And that's
what Mad lived. It struck me as a like a
DJ put like he got something different. So I just
drive the ox now daily and you know, pick him
up bring run he Mad. I mean, uh, Mad live,
believe it or not dead? A couple did they say
twenty one and Over is our classic album?

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
People don't know that Mad Lift did a couple of
joints on there Make Mary Jane, He's Smoke the song,
turned the Party out, a couple other ones, and then
he did a lot on the second album, Too Coast
to Coast right album, but out of the madd we
just did a benefit concert because he fire relief concert
and everything for him a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Man, I just you know, obviously there's things that you
can replace, you know, and then there's things you can't replace. Yeah,
that's a that's the fact, which is rough. I can
just imagine all the music you know that he had
had just on hard.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Drives and yeah, he he just he's just a talented dude.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Man. Like, Yeah, I met I met him a couple
of times with Freddy and uh, I just you know,
I feel like he's like a I feel like he's
like an enigma, you know what I'm saying. Like he's
like he's like he's like a like a shadow. It's
got an aura, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
And he don't pick up the phone. But nobody was
like the Wizard of Oz or something, right, right, right.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, it's crazy. They said that he did like all
the beats for a bandana on a fucking iPad, And
I was like, I believe it because that fools just
so crazy, Like it's not about the tools.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
He's an amazing motherfucker. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, that's crazy man for you. Uh I always you know,
I feel like when we talk about West Coast hip
hop the era of and you guys were a little
bit more commercial than what I'm about to make it.
But there was like this kind of like this underground
l a movement that was that that that got a

(35:43):
lot of people signed the major labels.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Good Life and all that.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
I'm obviously like guys like yourself, like the Dilated Ship
like you mentioned Luke Pac. Obviously there's then there was
like J five and there.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Was Michael nine.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah you know yeah, Freestyle Fellowship, Planet Asia, fucking Roscoe.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
How do you know about this eighty seven?

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Because I'm telling you, I'm a fucking hip hop head. Bro.
I came when I was thirteen. I came out here
and hung out at Fat Beats with record Iris.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
We need more than him man. The seventh, like the
shit you talking about it? That happened like two years.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
After he was born. Yeah, actually doing he was born.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
But but no, but it's it's crazy because like there's
like this there's this huge like scene in LA where
it was like just a lot of dope, backpack boom
back ill rap ship that wasn't gangster rap exactly right,
but it didn't mean that you got like you guys
are on Loud, the far was on Capital or delicious. Fine,

(36:44):
who did the what what did it focus did? Oh,
Tommy boy, Tommy Boy, you know, Dilators on fucking Capitol Records.
J five is fucking J five man, so Charlie Tuna
and all those guys.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
And this was the from my albums A Beat, a Killed.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Man, Shot a Kill shout out to Cut Chemists, New Mark.
But there was like this huge just like other side
of what what you know, LA hip hop was that
I feel like, for whatever reason, like fast forward to today,
like I feel like it doesn't get talked about it enough,
doesn't get enough love, you know what I'm saying. I
feel like it was so important though, and it was
like there's so much good music, so many incredible artists

(37:21):
that came out of that era. Do you do you
feel like that that kind of scene in LA gets
the flowers it deserves.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
And today I got a soul coming out.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
It's it's not a podcast, it's actual so yeah that
it kind of addresses that it's called underrated and what
it is is like it's basically so I created that.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Basically, I just.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Wanted to put the sign on anything underrated don't have
to be music. They don't have to be rappers and
singers and this that it could be a you name
it restaurant, right that everybody lines up around the corner,
but a lot of people don't even know this place exists,
you know what I'm saying, And there gotta be a
reason for that. So we're just trying to get you know,
people to the to tap in with who we think

(38:04):
is underrated. So shot some episodes and everything, Like I said,
shout out you know Alchemist jay Worthy. The first one
that come out, it's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
About the alcoholics, because that's all we've been called ever since.
We you know, had to deal with Like everybody sees
the body of work that we did, right, we got
songs with who you know, They got songs with wool Tang,
then turn around to do a song with for real,
they do a song with kid rock crazy to do
a song with.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I mean we did it.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I tried to do an album called what's the name
of the album? I forgot the name of the motherfucker,
But I just put my features on.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
It, you know what I'm saying. Oh, so all features,
all features.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
That's just because people might know that we did a
song with Snoop, but not mind know we did a
song with whoever.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
You know what I'm saying. What was the kid rock
song on that loud rock compilation?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Nah, he just did a beat that was sugar rad.
I was Sugar Rated.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, yeah, I remember, like it was like a random
album that if you find it by it because it's
just rad. It was like some blue buff dude on
the cover, like a cartoon, and like it had a
bunch of loud artists like doing songs around.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
You know, I don't even know it they did.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I was I don't know where it was that when
they did it, but they are you you coming rapping
at the end because they did the song without me.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I don't know what it was that when they So
you guys did.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Your guys' records with Sugar Red. Yeah, yeah, it was
like so it was some of them. Ships were very random.
It was kind of like the you know, Lincoln Park
and jay Z did it, but y'all like loud and
that did it, you know, fuck five years earlier.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
That's funny you mentioned that because my boy EFN called
me yesterday tried to the drink champs here. Now he
didn't call me, hit me on the text, and he
just said he interviewed Lincoln Park and they said that
we were the alcoholics, were a big influence to them.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah, because I mean low key like Mike Shinoda.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Is like a Mike, Yes, and then he said that,
so I just reached out.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
We just reached out like yesterday and trying to get
in touch with him. Yeah, he was a part of
uh what I'm trying to think of a rap group.
He was runn and around with that was like an
underground like backpack fucking because he had this four minor
album and I remember there's all kinds of like backpack
la shit on. That was like what the fuck, Like,
who the fuck Mike, Mike should just tapped in.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, but he but EFN said he wanted to get
in touch with us, So we're doing that right now.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Socoholic Lincoln Park.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
That'd be big Man, that'd be big. Yeah, it's crazy
because just that era of music. I think it's like
your album. I think the J five Ship, I think,
you know, Expansion Team is a classic to me.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
What's going on with Phil the Agony Man, little cousin
phiel Man?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
He actually big cousin Phil. He he chilling man. I
just saw him couple of weeks ago and everything.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
He's put some fucking music Outum, that's what I feel,
the Agony Bro.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
He sent me some incredible shit and I'm asking what
he's waiting on. But like we, like you said, that's
who I was hopping it up with about the Liquid
Cool album and shit. And there's a lot of associates that,
even if they don't use the word liquid creul and
everything like crime.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Don you know what I'm saying. Of course, you know
a bunch of people that cry.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
On an exhibit? Are they good? Now? I guess that's
an exhibit question.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I don't even know this beefing.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
The strong arm steady thing happened, and you know, yeah
that was something back that so long ago you would
think it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
And if I ain't here what happened?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
And probably I don't know, man, but anyway, I know
everybody good and good spaces and everything, like I just
send Quinn a uh mad live thing and everything.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah, he's incredible and he's acting. Now.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's something about this liquid
cool shit. We don't breathe failures, you know what I'm saying,
something about you know, so.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
You guys in the best you can do. Your guys,
biggest single in terms of sales, right, just the labels
say hey we got we like at that time Forrel's
hottest fish Grease Neptunes are on fucking fire. Is that
like a thing where like the labels like, yo, we
got to get y'all with the Neptunes or nationally.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
That's what That's what I tip off of how people's go.
They grow into their own self, I guess. But when
we met for real, he requested us. He was like,
I want to do I don't know if he went
in the Steve rif Swift or whatever, but he said
Alcoholic is one of his favorite groups and he would
love to do something.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
And then he.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Called somebody and said I got this beat that I
no is gonna be a hit record. And it sounds
perfect for that. Then when he played it, it ain't
sound let nothing like what we was expected because he
was fresh off of like like the clips, grinding and
all that, so I expect to hear some of that.
And then when he played the ship, we went to
Virginia to Pharrell studio.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
We flew out there to do.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
The song with him, right, and I can honestly say
I ain't seen him since.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
But I got a record.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Though, yeah, we got a record. But it's like, but
you see what he grew into, Like he the face
of Lois with Gucci's. I don't know what he's doing.
Look I think Louis, but shout out to Pharrell. Though. Man,
it's like, you know, I got a chance to work
with a legend.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
You know, it's crazy to think about like everybody off
work with like Stoles p fucking the list on.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Real And I mean this some pretty.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Wild Would you ever? Did you ever entertain uh, doing
a sequel to Rap life.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Like a rap like part two? I might call the Douces.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
It has been a minute because now I'm living a
different rap life, you know what I mean. I don't
want to call it square because I still be having
fun with my life. It's just I cut out the drinking.
It just seemed like a lot of parties are more boring,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Do you feel like you getting sober has like just
improved the quality of life in terms of just like
because I feel like, man, that alcohol, it weighs on
your bath.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
You got to see a lot of the That's what
my problem was.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I was so blessed to, you know, with the loud
situation and this and that. Then I didn solo.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I was just so blessed to just just be one
of the millions, Like you know what I'm saying, one
of millions kind of you know, I got money, I'm young,
I ain't an ugly motherfucker. We got calls, we got jewel,
we got all this.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
And when you get, you know, into that thrown into
that cycle, it's like you're.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Living up to the image now, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Every car got be a vet or every house gotta
be big or it ain't really you know.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
So I just tried to keep up with the Joneses.
The Joneses, they should have you fucked up in that
trying to keep up with the Jones that have your
as homeless.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yo, you guys did the Taylor Swift thing. What's that
where you guys re recorded clash.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
We were going through this big thing with that. Let me
let me explain that right there, we did and it was.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
The same thing Taylor Swift did. That's right, man. She
she re recorded all her old albums.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Okay, this is east with not Taylor's Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
The biggest artists in the world. She did the same.
She didn't she had the mastss thing going, so she recorded.
She re recorded her first like three albums, right, and
they all went number one.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I was just saying as a coincident that Swifts did
the same exactly. But but what they did they wanted
to get one of the songs. I think Clail Patrick
of the record label wanted to get one of the
songs in a movie or something like that. And then
they presented it to us to do it, to re
record the shit, and they said they had a live
band that could we play the songs and shit, And
I was like, okay, well, and then we Swift ended

(45:08):
up stripping all the tracks down so the band would
have something like a reference right to play. And this
and that, and then we did we did our vocals
and we sent them to the record label, and I
don't know what happened. They just sent it as long
as apology and all this, but they ended up putting
out the stripped down version that Swift sent to them
to replay on accident. I don't know what they hell

(45:30):
or whatever, but we got some shit going on with
them like.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
That, because when I saw it, I was like, oh,
you guys, man, mean, I don't know if your master's
situation will loud, but a lot of times if an
artist does that, it's like, yeah, we're gonna put out
our classics re record them, so we own the masters technically.
So it wasn't that that was that kind of the
player though. Yeah, But it was like.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
The version that they put out they still had simples
in it, so it didn't make no sense, Like why
is up?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
How did this happen?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
You know what I'm saying. But they cleared it up
out so they I think that they've already put up
the the correct versions and everything. So I really ain't
paying attention going I have so much shit going on
right even you know, look up, but shout out clear
Patrick Record suave the far side.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Are you? Are you putting out the solo stuff independently?

Speaker 2 (46:19):
That's what I'm I'm waiting for my I want my
next move to be my best move. So I got
some killer ship, so I don't want to just put
it out and you know nobody hears it.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
You know what I'm saying for sure?

Speaker 3 (46:29):
You know I think what you got to do, man
is you got to do it independently. But you you
have to partner with someone on vinyls exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Okay, So yes.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
You're you're, you're, you're you're. I mean where you're gonna
be able to hit the lick is vinyls cassette games,
because what your fans are gonna want to buy it
like Collect collected.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
But whether you play a vinyl if it doesn't map bro, listen,
Vinyls you got all mapped out.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Like I'm telling you right now, Vinyls out selling everything.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
That's what it's doing.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
If you go to Target, there's no CD, there's vinyls.
The vinyl aisle at Target is cracking. There's like this
whole entire because now fans any Target, you go to
go to the where the electronics are and the books
there's a giant vinyl area.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
I've been targeting. Sometimes you gotta do a vinyl.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Make sure all of your branding is like use your
old logo like you want, like you want your fans
to be like at the end of the day, like
your fans want to collect something because they can stream
it all day. That's the thing. Nowadays, it's like it's
it's it's like you can stream the album, but the
fans still want to own something, so you got to

(47:39):
give them something to own.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
You feel me like I just looked at it, like
if you ain't got no turntables, what you're gonna do
with it?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
But but look now, when I tell you you're finna
go to Target, go to Walmart, You'll see the vinyl
with Walmart. It's a lot, bro. It's it's the it's
the it's so like guys like Freddy and al and
all these guys are making millions of dollars, Like ask Alchemists.
Alchemist makes millions of dollars yl I'm talking about He'll

(48:09):
sell a vinyl with just beats and that shit sells
the fuck out. So you got it. I'm telling you,
whatever you do next, collaborate with someone to the distribution
on vinyl evidence go ahead, yeah, hit ev hit out whoever.
You could do it with Empire they do the vinyl thing.
Or you could and then do like a super limited
run like cassette tapes and then you'll bro that she'll

(48:30):
sell out.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I thought the vinyl only sold overseas with some reason.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
No, no, no, no, no it is.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
And then it set tle.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
My son is nineteen years old and has like two
hundred vinyls. He collects vinyls. Wow. Yeah. And now like
the turntables that they're making nowadays, you know, back in
the day you had to have run a turntable and
do a motherfucking am tool. No, they got usbat turntables
for these.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Bro, that's the tea cold.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
No, it's it's crazy. Yeah, you got you would murder it.
So whatever you do next, it's got to have a vinyl.
So if you're doing an album, if it's a rap
live two, make sure.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
That our work is you got to map down there.
You might be my silent partner six figure bag. You're
just sitting there just waiting for you.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, for sure. Like that's the thing. It's like I
was like, like the and the thing is too. With
the with the record shit is like you have to
plan it out because the record plants are like three
months behind. That's why when like Kendrick did the super Bowl,
they planned it out perfectly, where his so gn X
have been out for months, but the vinyls dropped denied

(49:35):
to the super Bowl and then bitches he he sold
another one hundred thousand units just because he sold one
hundred thousand pieces of a vinyl.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah that's perfect.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Now you gotta do the vinyl shit man, especially Yeah, yeah,
it'll go crazy. And then if you guys ever do
like any talk shit. I don't know what Loud's doing,
but I would tell Loud to reissue, like, yeah, we
should do like a I don't know at what point
in time the big a big anniversary for like twenty
one and over, but.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I think I think it's like after a certain amount
of years we own the rights to fuck it.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
I would. I would do like a super limited edition
twenty one and over vinyl pressing. It will sell out. Listen,
it'll sell out.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
That's what we're doing with the that's what we're supposed
to do with the the one.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
The re release, I'm.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Saying, ah, yeah, like the Vinyl.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Fans that like collect ship and they want to support
you guys. Man Like, So yeah, dude, I don't know
if ABB still does vinal stuff.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
But it's not a contract we signed with Clio Patrick.
Vinyl was in there to make the money because streaming
is whatever, dude.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Like if you're like a like, like like any artist
that's independent, it's like yo, when you throw your shit
up on streaming, it's it's like an advertisement so that
people can come and spend money with you at the
shows or merch or whatever. So so do you have
a timetable the new songs out, but do you have
a timetable on when you think you want to put
another solo project out? Like you said, you're trying to

(50:58):
figure that out.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
I'm gonna drop two more, gonna drop this remix, like.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I said, with a big remix, Yes, yes, yes, but
we got big big it's gonna crack.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
But I got a shoot. I being a song called
Shoe Fits.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
It's called if the Shoe Fits, And that's just like
some tasks like all my MC ship, you know what
I mean. There's like an inspirational song just about kind
of like the old task that's having fun, rambling, you know,
just talking about my life and everything. And after that,
I see a lot of a lot of tour days
coming up, you know what I'm saying, the alcoholics and solo,
solo and ship. So I'm gonna be on the road

(51:33):
to like Christmas fire and looking for more. So, but
anybody out there on some on a difference on a
side note and everything, I am looking for some management.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
And what I mean by that is just like I'm
handling them my career. You know what I'm saying. It's
just I can't manage myself and do the music, yeah,
and do all this other shs. I got my hands
a lot of cookie jars. So anybody out there to
see that, they hear the attention is a drug. And
you know, like the remix has no home yet, you
know what I'm saying. I mean, he's always got a
home if you put it out. Independent for sure, but
you know, I just see the bigger picture. So get

(52:07):
at me, Bo cash Man.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
I appreciate you pulling up new song is out, Go
support it, go street, run it up and uh the
videos out, Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Shout out to Dave Sapel and Fatty Lumpkin.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Shout Dave Chappelle.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
I had to say that guy had to chest to
go to his quib, I mean, not his quib. But
he lives in this little town called Yellow Springs in Ohio.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Yeah. Yeah, he's like his compound.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Right, Yes, and he invited me out to come out
and hang out with him for a couple of hours
of this shit, and it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Yeah, I've heard, I've only heard about it, but it
looks I mean, I've had a few homies who were
going there during COVID to watch on his shows. Yeah,
and I heard it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah, it's dope shit.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
But the crazy part is that one of the rules
is you can't videotape, right, So that's why I said,
shout out Dave Schapelle. I can't post nothing of this
and that. But it's incredible though. Man, you got this
little town on lot Yellow Springs. Yes, so this is
his new movie, Oh fire. Shout out to Chappelle.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Man, Yeah, he's got at Harriet's in West Hollywood. It's
at the top of one hotel. Uh. Yes, it's on
corner there. It's called Chappelle's Corner. Wow. So you get
like sat that's.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
What if you go to this town. I got the
video camera right here.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I saw you the town that they got spelled logo
like stores and.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Oh that's like his town.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Damn it, that's like is sepel Ville. That's great, dude though.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Man's just you know, he told us a lot of
love that didn't have to just me and my cousin
and shout out Jay Ross.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Yeah, Boom, I appreciate you pulling up. Man. Can't I
wait to hear what you got in the store. I
can't wait for the remix.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
It sounds crazy, so we clicked hit you with it.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Boom, My guy.

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