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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:23):
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the interview. Brutle CAV Podcast special guest in here, Bizarre

(00:47):
it's back. What is going on? He's back. He's back.
He's back. He's back. He's back.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
He's back, he's back.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
You are on a promo run right now? What do
we promote? He's not all great, that's good. Not being
on cracks an important? Were you ever uh crack? I
know you've wrapped about it. But was that like ever
like a a problem?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
No, man, everybody think I won't crack?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Did you ever recreationally dabble? No cav? I mean, hey, no, no,
no I do. I do always say though that if
I to try it, if I could ever try any drug,
and no, I wouldn't get addicted. It'd be crack.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
They say, most uh crack users start from their spouse,
girlfriend or their significant other.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean my homie who's sixty.
He said they used to smoke crack while they fuck
in the eighties, like it was like a sex drug.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
But I feel like any drug that would make you
like leave your wife, kid's family, be homeless, potentially give
falatio to a male if you're a male. You know
what they say, it must be great.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, you know what they say homeless in La know
where they stay forced to be gay?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Mm hmm. I didn't know they said that.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's what we made though, But it's true.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Though it flowed, it flowed now. I feel like now it's.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Movie stars. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
You see a movie called Hollywood, It's just called Hollywood.
It's about just watch the movie, man, It's just called Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's about It's about stars and actors moving to Hollywood
and doing I think it's based on Harvey Weinstein.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Is it new? It's like four or five years shout
to Harvey. Man looks like he might be getting a
second a second chance.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's about male escorts.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Man, there's a lot of them. I'm sure out here.
I feel like here in Washington, d C. Probably is
the male escort hub Washington, d C. Damn Yeah, the politicians,
bro oh wow, the powerful.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
But y'all got boys down here though, Man and Monica.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah that area. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Okay, how you doing, man? How's the family?

Speaker 1 (03:08):
I think you know, staying off Fenanyl. You know.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
That's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
That's good for sure. Got your dude, I won't say
who it is, a good friend of the show, Okay,
records in the studio with the can of Narkan or
what is it the can with nark Can in the studio?
You never had to use Narkin? No, Man, is that

(03:33):
is that hard for you to like be? Everyone thinks
you're just like who you are in your wraps, So
I'm sure like fans come up to you just say
some wild ship or like I.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Mean, I just wanted to do some wild ship.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, like, Yo, let's go fucking punch a baby and
smoke some crack. Bizard, I got a training in the
hotel room with a pack of crack.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Why the fuck are you not going come on my
fucking hotel room and smoke some crack with this trainning?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah? Like, nah, it's just the salt, it's a character.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Where's the lake at?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Man?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I want to go fishing?

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah? Are you a big fisher Yeah, a big fisherman,
So like, uh, that's bizarre. Yeah, so that's like a
real real deal. You're really addict. Take him on tour.
Are you like catching? Like? What what? What is the
great holes? Man?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
We'll catch your holes, not fish fishing holes? No, man,
I'm catching Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I like uh, white bass, silver bass, crappy?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Is that? Uh? In the Great Lakes?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah? The Great Lakes Michigan. A lot of super bads
in Michigan.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
That's dope. Do you ever go to the Cabella's or
the bash Shop? No?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I can't afford that ship man, I mean at Walmark
with my poles. Oh yeah, I'm a fake ass professional fisherman.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Man, do you know how to like like when you
catch the fish. You eat the fish.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Uh cooler, No, But I did see this dude on TikTok.
You see you see the dude on TikTok. He was
in China and he had like China. He had like
a little grill. It was already heated with the grease
and everything, and he was catching like these little minto
sized fish out the water. He would catch him out
the water, take him off the hook. He had a knife.

(05:12):
He cut the belly right there while he still was alive,
dipping and flower a deep deep Friday two minutes and
he already had like five pieces already ready to.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Throw it back in the water and catch another one
that's fire. So he's just like catching, like while he's
cooking in real time.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
He's cooking and catching the same.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
There's this Japanese dude who cooks meals in his car.
Have you seen him? He cracks the egg and he
got this and he eats it like super fast, like
full meals on this like little like you put like
plugging like a stove top hot plate into your car
lighter and yeah, Chicktak's wild. And then there's like the

(05:50):
the truck are you are you at all into the
truck driver algorithm. No, yeah, the truck drivers there, Like
I'm in a lots though. I was gonna say, they'll
air out the lot lizards, Okay, Yeah, well you guys
were touring the world, you guys would bring a lot

(06:11):
lizard to the bus or would you take them down
to the to the truck stop, so you would take
them down like at the at the truck stop bathroom,
no parking lot.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
No, I'm just talking shit man.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I mean listen, if you ever see a lot lizard, man,
it's rough.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, it's almost like drug addict.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Right. You would think you would think if there was
a prostitute that was of any you know, quality, that
they would not necessarily be hanging out a truck stops.
Fucking yeah. I mean listen, they're.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Needed because it wouldn't for them, your package would be
making it that's true.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, they're taking care of men's packages so you could
get your packages on time.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Damn we needed actually good ass fucking topic weekend.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, put it on a bumper sticker. That takes care
of me. Baby. Oh, I wonder what a lot of
lizard's going, right is Like I feel like it's less
than a hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
How to ask thirty thirty hot ass thirty not thirty
Hot to ass thirty difference. No high ass thirty means
it is probably your last thirty in your pocket. That's
a little bit thing we see in Detroit. Hot ass.
I got to how to ask forty to?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I mean, like, at certain point in time, it's like,
if you're only paying thirty or forty dollars for a broad,
It's like, do you even want.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
To do that?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
That sounds like a bad business.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I might not have forty, but you're gonna have sympathy
for me if I say how to ask forty?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I got how to ask forty though.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's all I got so last, I don't even know
how many. As shit, we got one chipping on wis
I got a hot ass twenty. I got the kid,
I got you gonna respect them? I said, I got
hot as twenty. I got hot and ready in the
in the truck. No, Little Caesars is different and at
twenty and I'll be somebody's fucking for Little Caesars in
the twenty. I don't know who, but somebody, probably a

(08:03):
fat bitch.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Butch is a Little Caesarsny Island Oh god, man, we
were in Detroit.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I did not like the Coney's. Oh my god. I'm
not hating, it's just it's not It's just what whatever
is breakfast? I know they got almeles, they got eggs,
they got chicken wings, they got cheesecake, they got ready cheese, fries, smoothies,

(08:30):
they got everything. It's a one stop shot. It's like
a really bad cheesecake factory. You ever go to cheesecake
factory and look at the menu and you're like, there's
just too much shit on this menu. There's too much
shit on the coney menu.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
But it depends on what cony you went to.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So the baby took me to one that was okay, okay.
I had a sandwich and.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
You said, okay, what's the name of it?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I don't know, but I'll tell you which one sucks.
What Mickey D's on eight mile? Oh my god, By truth.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Man, what did you eat? Eat from there?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
What did we get? Mother? I was just ordering hell
is ship.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
You can't order it, Coney, Don't order no chicken fingers
from there.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I pulled up bumping M and M. That's it. Remember that,
I was like, wait, ron eight miles about to get
a coney what play Run, Rabbit Run, and this motherfucker
on a hundred dog.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Order.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I don't know everything, dude. Everybody was passing it around
and nobody was impressed. And then everybody was like it
nikkids or Mickey, do you know what? I'm sure you
should now that is true. I have a feeling we
were out there and we had some uh, we had
some some homies looking after us, you know, and the

(09:48):
night that we all wanted to go to the strip club,
they couldn't come. So I wanted to go to Truth. Okay,
they sent us to Babylons. Does that some white club?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay, you're talking about the club announcers be like.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's like a steakhouse in there. It was fucking The
girls all looked like Juggalos bros. A lot of tasty
white bitches in there.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's an eight miles literally, was it Trump or something?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
No? I could fuck?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I might be saying the name.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
We did go to King of Diamonds King. Yeah, Mazi
was performing. That was fun. See, that's more of my speed.
I do think Detroit has the most beautiful black women
in the world.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, just give it up for Detroit. Man Noise from
my city.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Man, fucking love Detroit. It's a good, good place.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Man, Corney Island.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I just it's not that I don't funk with it.
It's just I mean, you know, did you start off
with the breakfast first? I think I don't know, dude,
he had Breakfkay what you eat? Almor figure out an almid?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Do you want to funk with them? You want to
funk with Dominic?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's just it's just whatever. It's like, it's like fucking
you know, it's like going and eating like at the carnival.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, it's like carnival food. It's not bad. But listen
to Detroit. You see more Coney's than you see McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
For sure. No, No, it's its own thing for sure.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Because whos could you go and get like a burger
in the fry for like seven dollars?

Speaker 1 (11:20):
A real I respect it. I wish we had more
of that shit out here.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
It don't work everywhere, though. I think they tried one
in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
It didn't work. Yeah, they've tried it. You know, I'm
from Phoenix. They've tried to do Coney's a bunch of
times and they never last.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
But you know, so what's popular in Phoenixos Mexican Food,
Mexican Food and Mexican Food twenty four to seven.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Okay, yeah, have you been able to connect in the
studio at all with the sun Proof Proof? So no,
I haven't done anything with the son. Shout out to
Massan though. Have you seen how hilarious he is? Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Man, he's a genius.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I wish I could get him to direct one of
my videos.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Bro, Bro, He's so funny.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
He's a fucking genius.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
He came up here talking about that he had real
booty clappers. Did you see it was? It was everywhere
that he was. He's funny, man.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
He hilarious, Man, he is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I feel like he's like a mixture of you and
Proof in terms of like his sense of humor. Yeah,
and like his lyrical ability obviously. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
He definitely came up in the new era.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Man. He really paved the way for itself.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
He could have he definitely could have took the route
of coming behind Proof, but he wanted to take a
different route, right, So he just kind of like it
was a while before people even knew he was his son.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Right, No, for sure, which you gotta respect because It's
like most people will probably would lead with something like that, right, like, Yo,
by the way, yeah this is proof sons. Oh ship
that's proof son. It's crazy. That's like you remember the
rapper camouflage from Atlanta back Yeah, yea, his daughter is
a rapper su Yeah, ship man, trying to test me.

(12:58):
I'm more much ship man, more much shit? I know
are you? And uh? Well, first of all, what are
you promoting? Because I know you and your boy found
mouth be putting out a ship to the music. Yeah, man,
we're just putting out ship shit on top of shit.
How many projects would you say you've dropped in the
last because you're very active.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, I said, we've dropped five projects in the last.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Two years.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Two years?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Two years? Yeah, two years.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Man, I don't know. I feel like I'm seventeen again.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
What is it for you that like, it's the motivation
that just like I mean like like you obviously got
that itch, like does it come and go?

Speaker 4 (13:37):
No?

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Fire my off is a motivation, you know what I'm saying?
Basically what I I you know, I kept hearing about him,
you know what I'm saying, and it was like, Yo,
this kid ain't fire off.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
He from Detroit. He's fired, buddy, it's a problem.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
He only works in his basement, right, you know what
I'm saying, So you don't really do it for the
studios and shit. So I went to his basement and
it was like just so fucking hip hop. It was
like type of shit going on. He got like three dogs,
a cat, and girl yelling and screaming, and I'm like,
oh my god, this is heaven right, Like I caught
the bus over here, you know what I'm saying. So

(14:10):
I really kind of lost the love for hip hop,
you know what I'm saying. But just seeing this big
grown ass man that he stays up all night and
just makes it.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Off energy, drinks off, making beats. You gotta fucking feel
on the mullet. Yeah, I feeling there.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
So just seeing him, like the freedom that he had
just and how he highly loved hip hop he was
it just became like an addiction. So I just like,
once he got a gun, one pops, then next you know,
it was two and three and ship after that.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Man, I just just been grunding. Man, that's dope. Man. Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (15:16):
I want to say shout out to the file mouth man.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
He he's on Eminem's last album too.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh yeah, so yeah, which which song?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Anti Christ?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Oh? Great song? That's by the way, that last Eminem album? Yeah,
oh my god spoken. I think it might be. I
think it's his fourth Bess album. I think there's the
three that you Can't Touch, some shady OLP, Eminem Show
and uh marshamadis OLP and then I put the new one.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Damn. Okay, yeah, that's fire.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I think that shit is amazing, dude, and that you know,
I don't know if you guys have some inside information.
I feel like it was purposely made where you could
listen to the album backwards. That is that, Matthew No,
because a part of it is eminem killing slim Shady

(16:10):
and slim Shady killing or Marshall killing slim Shady, and
but if you listen to it the other way around,
it's the other way around. It's fucking man. I got
to really think about the deepest you did. Yeah, there's
so many conspiracy that I started you were think, for sure,
I wish you would have toreed that mother far though.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Man, Man, I don't know. Man, we're getting.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Kind of old man you U and M still keeping
contact regularly, for sure?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, for sure that's the homie. Man.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I've heard like, was he always the way he is?
Because I've heard he these days the studios like treated
like a job, like he clocks out at a certain
time whatever, it's five o'clock, whatever. It's like, there's not
like the all days studio sessions. Was he always like
that when you guys were working where it was like
very militant, like in and out, like.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
We was broke if we didn't have any money, right,
so we was fucking scrambling together.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
In a different basement. Yeah, a different basement in a
different basement.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Trying to get two hours.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
We came from an era where you had to add
your wraps already written went to the studios.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yo, that's real, dude. Yeah, like, hey, look, we only
got enough for two hours, so you better come through,
lay that ship down. If you funk up, we're keeping
it right. That's real. Before you could just go to
Guitar Centering by interface.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, I think I think, what what's I say that?
Would you say this with y'all great with this? I
would say the inbox fucked up studios?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
And yeah, yeah, I think the inbox fu studios.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
And initially it was pretty expensive to get one, but
if you could get one, yeah, they got there was
like five hundred when they came out the inbox, and
then from there it was like the scarlet that like scarlet.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Literally when the inbox came out, motherfuckers just went got
that and a Mini Mac.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Come to the crib. That's it. That's all you needed.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
But your studio suffered.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, I feel like the studio. I mean, I always
tell artists because they'll come to my spine. I got
a pretty basically vocal chain, and I always tell people
like major label artists. I'll be like, hey, you guys,
I got the same vocal chain, Like y'all to pay
seventy bucks an hour here out of your own pocket, right,
or you could fuck off your budget and go pay
two fifty an hour up the street and like yeah,

(18:30):
there's gonna be cookies and a runner. But like quick,
what we're talking about right? For real? And it's really
all about the engineer. Yeah, you gotta have a great engineer.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, you know Orlando Mando.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah from uh yeah, of course, a good guy. H
what's it. I've been to a studio, hip hop lavoratory.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
That's what about to say? His studio is unique. I've
never seen them like that before.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, I've been to that spot.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
You got like five little baby rooms and like pro
twos in every room, but his artists basically going to
record themselves, so they all be in different rooms. And
I kind of wanted some shit like that to hear,
but it was like fo a bunch of songwriters.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I forgot what I was at.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
There's a lot of those out here. It was like
a Japanese K pop shit going on, and some ship Korean.
The K is for Korean.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
They don't all they don't all look the same. Oh,
real Asian. I thought it was called k K pop
is for Korean? You said these Japanese k pop oh ship.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Damn like that, But it's banned from Japan.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Why are you band from Japan?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Because you just let this clip go thro Oh.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Did you ever have any issues traveling like back in
the day, like were you because I know like certain
countries would be a bitch to get get in and
out of.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Uh, Canada, they don't let nobody. I don't funk.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
You can throw a rocket hit Canada from Detroit. Yeah,
I've been to Canada. That's why I said I've been
there like a hundred times. Never had a problem. I
had one case that was dismissed. You know what I'm saying.
Everyone the trial or nothing. And I've been I've been
there on a hundred times. And then one time I
was going to Canada, but I had to go through the.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Seattle Way in to a different way.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, so it wasn't Wednesday the way you're talking about,
Like we were good that way, but I think we
were starting on the West coast, so we had to
fly to Seattle and then drive to Vancouver.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, to the border or whatever.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
And uh.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I got there and the dude was like, told me
to come to the front test. He was like, he
looked at me, said, uh so, what's just on your record?
I said, what are you talking about? He said, I'm
not gonna ask you, but one more time. What was
it on your record? I was like an assult case.
But that got dismissed.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
He was like, see it. He said, you got any
weed on you? I said, no, I would. Why would
I come to Canada with weed on me? He said
that's what Snoop Dogg said yesterday. And guess what, he
didn't get in.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
And he denied me.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
That's fucking crazy. This was on what tour? Was this big?

Speaker 3 (21:25):
I don't I don't think it was a to think
it was like a Canada tour. It was a Canada tour.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's crazy. Jesus Christ, you have never been denied in
the country. Mm hmm. Actually no. I paid my way
in Okay, Mexico. I was going to TJ and I
tried to Yeah, yeah, slide him a twenty, get right
in good place, good place. They got goodental. My Dennis

(21:50):
is there?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
You heard about I've never been there.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Stem cells there he gets stem cell research. Whe Joe
Rogan does his stem cell this Tejuanna.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Wow, Okay, yeah you don't.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, that's probably not the move though, you know what
I'm saying, like, yeah, I don't know. If you want
to get the TJ.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
BBL man, you known't put that in the lyric.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Go to what to Tijuana g bb on and say
you had Chinese food what all three? Yeah, Chinese food
in Tijuana is really famous. It doesn't make any sense,
but it makes sense, man, the greatest Chinese food in
America by anybody.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Moving to Thailand, Man.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Dude, I was in Thailand for Rolling Loud last year,
and I understand why everyone's moving to Thailand. Oh wow,
it's a vibe. The food is super cheap, it's beautiful. Yeah, okay, okay,
everyone's moving there, and like, hell of people are moving there.
They're they're they're like just like Hella, couples are moving

(22:50):
out there and like just making YouTube videos about living
in Thailand and making money. They're giving out digital they're
called digital nomad passports, So if you're if you work
digitally remotely, they'll give you a passport or a visa
rather for a year just no questions asked your year visa.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
I mean you're gonna be blogging about it.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
No, I'm not going. I mean I love Thailand. I'm
gonna go back DJ in August. But okay, I'm not
living there. I would live there if I was retired
and single, couldn't be married. Shout to my wife, not
gonna move her to Thailand, is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
My boy said the horrors are cheap there.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I wouldn't know, okay, Yeah, I've heard that they are though, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Like how cheap were talking about.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I don't know. I heard that they're cheap though, but
I would hope not. That would feel very trafficky, Okay.
I would feel very very like you're gonna fucking go
into the hotel and then like Liam Neeson is gonna
knock on your door like oh like from taking and

(24:01):
kick the door down and take his daughter back going on.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
I don't want no problems with that guy.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Man, Jesus, you never you guys never went to Thailand.
When you never been to Thailand, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
But it was one of the dudes that used to roll.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think he was like one of the crew and
he would like fucking brag about Thailand.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
All the time.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
It's fun. Yeah. And the food.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
He was like, living for nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, it's a good time, dude, good time, beaches, nice food, cats, nice,
went to some multi fights, was crazy, tropicals. Fuck, Bangkok's
got all kinds of malls and ship it's dope. Good
spot about the bugs. I didn't there's bucks, but I didn't. Okay, Yeah,
there's good street food, lots of motorbikes, lots of traffic,
though the traffic is in fucking sane. Yes, wow, Yeah,

(24:48):
it's pretty bad, pretty fucking crazy. This guy's like what
I just drove through. Were you on the road for
the up and Smoke tour with him? Spot dates, spot days?
That was like we had just signed. Yeah, that was
that was pretty early. Yeah, that was that was That
was before Detwelve's World, right before that was night. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, we was like in a fifteen passenger following.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
We was You're like, yo, we're go wait wait, we
can follow the tour. We're following the tour man.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
That was a dope tour, dude class.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I'm mad because I went to that when I was
a kid in the fucking date. I went to the
ice Cube Pastor on Phoenix for whatever reason. So I
saw the tour. It was amazing. No Ice Cube though,
damn great tour though? Was that nineteen eighty nine?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Hell no, I wasn't even born in nineteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Ninety nine, I said ninety ninety. I was born in
eighty seven. I'm not going to contract to too. I
said it was ninety nine, right, or was it two thousand?
I think that was nice.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
I think we got signed. I don't think we got
signed at two thousand.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I was chronic. Two thousand and one came out in
ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
No, did it?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Didn't it?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah? Sure it did?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Hip hop story right there?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Maybe yeah yeah yeah, So then the s would have
been two thousand. Yeah, Devin Dude was on that tour
exhibit Yep. All the random Aftermath artists would come out
and do their verse what's his name? What was the
dude's name? Who was fucking on Aftermath? Hit I remember
Hitman came out and did this.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Ship hit me hit Me? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep,
that was dope. Yeah. They had to do six to
two out to six two.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
When you guys initially signed, what was like the thought
process because that was night was after Marshall Mathers LP.
Are you guys like already having records like put together
playing him for m or is this like we're all
in together? This is like a cohesive effort, because I

(26:51):
feel like there were so many members of the group,
like I can only imagine, like, were you guys pulling
from a bunch of different places for what was going
to make that first album? I don't really remember. I
was hot, I was really this was a heavy drug
drug era, every drug era for Bizarre. So they literally like, look, Bizarre,
this is the song. We just need you to come
and say some crazy shit.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I mean kind of like that, but you know, we
can just kind of the count of went off for
like what beat came on? You know what I'm saying,
And then like you know, whoever felt it, just start
writing to it, Like if you ain't really feel it,
you know what I'm saying, or if it wasn't your
subject matter or whatever, right, you know what I'm saying,
I think you will switch it up.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I feel like that's the album where like eminem really
got in this fucking producer bag too.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Or all all our albums, well we just had too.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, I mean two great albums, amazing albums. Yeah, did
you ever like lay some ship down? And then the
label or am or somebody was like, yo, you gotta
take that out. That's too much, too crazy, I can't
say that.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, yeah on my album. Yeah, I definitely had that.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I mentioned the age like fourteen and some shit.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, it is like you can't in.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
It, honestly, thank god, thank God, that is living. You know,
that's a fair thing to take out. You're like, yeah,
but it's I'm a character. It's a joke, but they're
not laughing. Have you heard Dave Blunts? Yeah, he's fucking
he's kind of like the melodic bizarre. Yeah, because he'd

(28:29):
be saying the craziest ship but that should be really
coming from his heart though, and it's good, Like I
fuck with Dave Blunts. I think he's wildly entertaining. I
actually enjoys music, but just be lying the way he
was saying hard rs and like that, like the F
word and ship like it's like, I'm like Jesus Christy.
I think that's where he comes from, though, he's hilarious.

(28:51):
It's from Iowa.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, that's why that's why. I said, that's.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Probably yeah, I was a wild place. Yeah yeah, what
was uh the day?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Let no for sure about him here before?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah? Super nice guy, like super nice guy part time
walking to the podcast. But okay, very nice guy. He's
got to get his health in order as saying that. No,
he I told him, I said, Bro, you're gonna die.
I ain't say that. I did. You could tell. He
was like, I get it. I hear it all the time.
I know, Oh, because you're really into that health shit, right,

(29:23):
I wouldn't say I'm really into it.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Why you ain't tell me I was gonna die? I'm
big as hell.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
No you're not. You're not. Listen listen bazarre. You're gonna
die if you keep you are you are? There's this
difference between we had to get out of there. We
had to get a different chair for Dave. Okay, yeah, right,
what do we pull over the couch? Right? Where did
he sit? I forget? Or we put two chairs? Well,
we put these two white chairs together. It was a

(29:51):
double double double chair. Yeah it's different. Okay, So you
said when you were working on a double's night, you
don't remember a lot of it because of the drugs?
What was like peak drug use for you?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Oh, Blue and Yellow Purple Peels.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Just listen to the song. Listen to the song the song, Yeah,
listen to the song. What the fucking it's Blue and
Yellow Purple Peels? What was like the because back I
mean obviously nowadays everyone's on like fucking insane amounts of
just crazy medication that was not around back then. So
was it like vicodin? Was it? What was like the

(30:31):
main fucking to go to heroin and crack? Yeah, we
already established that you didn't smoke crack though earlier in the.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
About Heroin thoughtioning about their dogs, It's is true.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I'm just fucking with you.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
No, I know. Was there anybody in the group that
was sober? All of us is sober? Really?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
At a certain that's not true.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
You say sober? That sounded like what the fu?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
I just mean, like, was there ever anybody who was there, like,
who was the calmest dude in the group when you
guys were like in like working on Devil's Night, Was
there like somebody who was like kind of was it
the one? Like, what was like the the guy who
held everything together? When the sessions would get a little crazy.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
I think we all hype. I averyready thought about that
question you said. I think it was all Yeah, that
must have been fun.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, could you be that hype and be around like
a guy like doctor Dre or would he be like,
because Doctor Dre so calm, like, would you guys ever
be like super turned up around Dre and you're like, yo, yoh,
we got a chill.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
No, I don't say two words around I just you
just sit there. Yeah, man, just vibe about man like damn,
it's a legend.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Man, Its fucking doctor Dre. For sure. Did you like
I feel like there was this like back then when
artists would have groups, it was always like I guess
there was like a negative stigma about it. But I
feel like you guys kind of were like the group
that broke that in terms of like catching like big

(32:09):
hit records and and like everybody, I mean I would
say everybody. Everybody. I mean, look all y'all pretty much
had like a really dope like ship to one's like
fucking incredible producer. I just heard him on a Snoops
new album. Yeah you obviously even downything, mister Porter, mister
Porter man. Uh, But was it always like we're gonna

(32:31):
do D twelve and then we're gonna do solo ship.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Uh yeah, yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I was a solo artist before I was in right,
So yeah, I had put an album out called Attack
of the Widows.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
That was my first It's a great name.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, it came in a game on some bullshit.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I like that was that because you were a big guy.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
No, I was just fucking weird though. I used to
fucking talk to myself in school. They thought I was
fucking talk to myself, but I really was just writing reps.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
It's crazy too, because if you think about Detroit, like
the craziest some of the craziest rap is from Detroit
back of the day, the horror course, Shake and forty
and Sham and obviously the insane the insane guys by
the way, wildly entertaining dudes before. Yes, Violent Ja is

(33:22):
a hilarious guy. He's a character. Shaggy Tudo is pretty calm, okay,
I feel like he's like the like the chill dude.
Shaggy Tudo is very much the adult of the group.
But Violent Jay hell, he's fucking shrewman. He's off the
Keademene damn in his fifties like a g and then

(33:43):
they'll sit down and do a fucking interview. So yeah, damn,
he's told. No. I mean we talked about it on
the podcast. He went on. He no, he went he
went on. He went on the Legion of Skigs podcast. No,
he went on the Legion of Skigs podcast. Fucked up
off Academy. They talked to about it. They're like, He's like,
I just did a bunch of academy shout to a

(34:04):
shout to violent j man. Uh yeah, so yeah, what
do you guys? I mean, obviously you're on a promo run.
You're in l A. You've be running around. I saw
you with the Alchemist. Uh was it yesterday? Uh? Did
you guys work on anything? Mm hmm yo my boy.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
No, No, that's.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
You guys.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
You got some plans.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I mean, you're in the studio. If you're in Santa Monica,
you're at a studio. So you guys work on music? No, No,
we just playing back, Okay, okay, but there might be something.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
What's this weed you gave me?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
I didn't give you that. We didn't mean that's your weed.
I didn't give you that weed. You brought that weed.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I did.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Have you ever worked with al before? Nope?

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I worked with him. I didn't work with him, but
I was gonna beat the song. Uh get back totally
touch Yeah, bout time for me ship for sure.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
It's crazy how Alchemist is like quietly like that.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
It was incredible, man. J Yeah, so he got so
many fucking ships, but to come out.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Oh my god, did he play you any Alfredo two? Yeah?
Amazing fire. Yes, I don't want it to be there's
some crazy features on that ship. Yeah. He's got Larry
Larry June in the pocket right now. But they got
a whole fucking album out. They have an album out

(35:45):
Alchemists and Larry haven't and then him and two Chains
and Larry got an album out. They've done two albums. Again.
What I'm saying, I think he got Larry like him
and Larry they worked together very well. I didn't know that.
I didn't say they got new ship coming.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
You said Larry's on the album though, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
I said he. I said he's got Larry his pocket.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Like, oh, okay, you switched it up.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Okay, I Sailarry's afraid too, even though he is. At least.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
They get the feed.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Sure, this is Friar Radio right here.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Man. For sure, were you said when the Pistons got
a limited Nope, because you guys fucking are good again?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, man, I was. I was very proud proud of.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Him, for sure. I mean, after you go through the
many Williams ship show of a season terrible and you
bounce back as a real team, It's like, yo, for whatever,
we're in.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
The game now and we almost beat the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
For sure, that boy cunning? Is That tells you how
like coaching is so important because it's damn near the
same team, said Tobias Harris this year and Hardaway Yeah,
Tim Hardway. But it's like essentially all the young cores
the same guys, but now they're good. It's like coaching
is really don't difference bets in there a couple ofs.

(37:04):
So so what you got coming out? I mean, I mean,
you're here here, what are we promoting here? There?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
We are promoting it. Bring Bring my guy in here, man,
let him let him talk.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Bring bring Detroit stev On in the building.

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Yo.

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the basement? Should you know? Why do you only work
out of this basement?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
No? No, keep it real, keep it real, keep it real.
Why why?

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Like what software you use? I use acid Pro That's why. Yeah, okay,
that's all say.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
I'm giving you waves. You're not getting the session.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
That's why acid Pro. Yeah is the reason that you
because you couldn't.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Gobody else really and be like ye, yeah, yeah, I
use acid No, yeah, how did you?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Because of what he used it?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
No, that's why I asked. That's the first questions. I
was like, he has to record on some obscure.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
I'll just play the beats. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Is wild that's Sony ship, so you gotta be on
a PC.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
It's not Sony no more. It's magic used to I.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Used to use, which is like acid but yeah, identical.
He won't pro tools. Do you know these pro tools?

Speaker 6 (40:47):
Uh no, No, I've just watched a couple of people.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
I can tell you, like a couple of options to
do something that's as good as he.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Gives about the line.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
No, no, I'm gonna tell you I can't even run.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Nope, acid pro. You're coming to the house. The cats there,
the kids are there, the dogs are there. You better
like some shedding. Bring a fucking limp brush.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Damn.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
I can tell you about the good engineers.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I use it.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
That's about it.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
How'd you end up getting with them for the I
mean obviously, I mean you know, getting on the eminem Aum.
I had to be dream come true.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
Oh yeah, it was incredible, uh crazy, dream come true?

Speaker 4 (41:25):
It was uh. I like when it was coming like
he was like, yeah, man, you know, tight's gonna be
pretty crazy, Like he just said it like all subtle
and normal like everything.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
He had a party for it.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
You had a party because you made the album.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yes, having parties everything was like I wasn't going to
until it happened. It didn't happen, and it was like
my birthday too, But.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
That's worth having a party for it. Tell your plan though, you.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Wanted to when they dropp was gonna play the song
in the back and you know home He's supposed to
be like.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Which I wanted.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
I wanted to be playing like partying while I was hearing.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
It for the first round, Anti Christ great song.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
I did the second half of it to joint.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
He's a yeah, fire, what do you get a party?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
So you had a party after the album came out.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
I wanted to do it the night. I wanted to
do it the night it came out, But once I realized,
like I was like overwhelmed, I actually started getting like
anxiety from it because it's I knew I had a
chance to be such a big record. I haven't been
a part of something that big. So instead of having
the party that night, I ended up having the next night.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So you didn't even have it that night.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
No, I didn't, but I had a whole plan. I
was like, yea, I'm gonna everybody over and we're gonna
go live while I was playing, and then the day
of I completely changed my mind on it.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
So when you first heard it, were you like, like,
did you hear it before it came out?

Speaker 4 (42:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Oh, that had to be sick the first time you
hear that ship.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
Do you know how sick? I was all right, So
I meant sick by the way.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Well, I was sick in a bad way.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
So you've heard the record, right, Yeah, So all of
a sudden, he gets done and and Biz starts doing
Dance with the Devil the lyrics over that other Beatitch,
do you know how long that six or seven seconds took.
I stood up in front of my girl and I said,
I didn't make it. Oh man, you were sad because
I thought I heard him. I never heard him wrap

(43:13):
over that beat. We recorded that together. So when I
heard that part over the beat, I said, whoa, this
is crazy. It's a whole different tempo. And then it
kicked in. While standing up and told my girl and
I think I might not have made it. She says,
this is completely done, and I was ready to cut
myself out because.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
She say, fuck you, you're a loser, beg you fucking liar.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
I knew it.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
You were a fucking lion.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
You're a fucking liar.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
It's crazy, man.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Six or seven seconds I was out there and then
it came on and then you want to slow it
down and hit and I said, wow, here in the
mix like that, Like it's so different than what you
give them, you know what I mean? It was a
It was a beautiful moment.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Has that opened up any new opportunities for you on
the production.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Side, Yes, but I'm gonna be honest, like the opportunities
that it's opened up, I've still mainly focused on my
guys and a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
And because he won't leave the basement.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
M hmm, all right, see, I'll leave the basement.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
You know, you could learn pro tools if you're just
go on YouTube, but it won't do you make beats
on acid?

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Yeah, that's how I got to that point. I never
meant to be an engineer. I made beats on there
and then was like, well, why don't we just record
over the stumps?

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, maybe you shouldn't be the record Maybe you should.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Oh no, we don't have issues with the mixers, and
just maybe I should be using these other things.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
You just don't want to be the guy who like
you get a call and you're like, yo, you got
to pull up to the studio, or Yo, we're gonna
go to LA and you gotta plug in and work,
because then you're gonna be like, hey, so alchemists like
I like you a lot, and and uh, I know
you just I know you just told me that I

(44:54):
could give you some loops.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
This problem break up the left.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
The problem is is, uh, you gotta come to my
basement in Detroit. I'll pay for the flight. Pay for
the flight. You could come. I got lovely animals. Do
you like animals? Are you an animal guy? Because if
you're an animal guy, let me tell you about my.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
No, I'm just a laptop. You just bring out the laptop,
plug me in.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Your laptop has gotta be a gnarly PC.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Just oh yeah, it's it's it's actually older than dirt computer. Yeah,
mine right now is so full. It's ridiculous, bro, it's
crazy full. I'm about to get a new computer.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
You get the kids together, foul mouth.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
I know the computer's good.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Just have a song, and I just need to you
just you didn't fucking you don't fucking fell into some
good ship. Yeah, Peter, your way onto the eminem album.
It's time gets prop since it's magic whatever the it's Sony,
It's fucking Sony. You and I know it's Sony. Oh

(45:57):
damn Jesus. So you guys, I got a new album coming.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, July tenth.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Is this part five?

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Part five dropped the EP in between two. It's actually
a sixth project.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Wow, that's dope. So who else would you consider your guys?
You say you have your guys.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Yeah, guys from Detroit that I work with and do
plenty of albums with, Isaac Caster, Jalen Frasier, King Cole.
These are guys I work personally with. Your album after album,
they'll come to They're all nice and yeah they go
to the basement. Yeah, they're all nice too.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
We're trying to get him with the Benning Butcher's but
you gotta ain't coming to.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
You gotta go to Buffalo. No, you actually got to
go to Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Actually, his people came to the basement there, came.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
To the basement because no one knows. Rick Hide quite
possibly the bizarre of the black black soprano family. Do
you think so he's the heaviest of the grow for her?
Damn what I got to do with this rapping. I
didn't say rapping. I just maybe I was talking about physique. Okay, okay,
Rick Hide's Great's got great big. Yeah. I've been in

(47:01):
the gym to I see that. What are you working on?
Are you're working on like cardio weightsates? That's not really
at a gym. Is it's like a plate studio. You
being there with some single moms.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Man, No, no, I never did. But I want to
do some exercise, but the old ladies being there.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I've thought about doing hot yoga, but I'm just so
afraid of the smell of funky, funky ass Broad's and
the and the and the cooters. Just imagine being let
me imagine being in a room with twenty five people
and there's just the funk from everybody. Huh p balance,

(47:46):
Oh yeah, the pH balance is cracking in area.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
I went to a Maryland Manson concert two weeks ago.
Could you imagine what it smelled like. I was directly
in the pet. Here's the pet. I'm the guy in
front of it.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Why were you in the pit?

Speaker 4 (47:57):
No? We were. I love MARYL. Manson, so I was
trying to get as close as possible and we couldn't
really get closer than we were on ground level. I
couldn't get any closer than like five rows back, which
was directly in front of people just killing each other.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know who's going
to like. I mean, I feel like I feel like,
if you're going to Maryland Manson concerret these days, hopefully
you're like, because that's what ninety nine when not work.
We're kids. I don't know what you are. I'm thirty eight,
but I feel like, you know, now, I'm like I
could go to a Maryland Manson concert and shower before
and enjoying myself now that I'm an adult.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
No, those same kids are adults.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
I see.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
There was a guy, Yes, they were like there was
one kid. He might have been maybe thirty, but he
was huge. He was like probably sixty three three fifty,
but he just kept taking crazy hits and when he'd
be on the ground, he'd stay down there hold his
head for a while and it was over and over.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
I went to a Tech nine concert in Detroit and
it was doing everything. Being there, it was amazing. No, no, no,
I've seen Tech nine. I don't know, like, like literally
people probably a hundred times. I'm talking about the people
in the crowd. I understood Detroit whites. Oh yeah, different, different.

(49:20):
I was like, oh, you weren't you there? And we
were just looking around, just people watching, and You're like,
these are a bunch of Marshall Mathers, like if like
Eminem might have been in that room if he hadn't
made it in hip hop, you know what I mean.
It was just like a bunch of like just people

(49:41):
who look like the auto industry left, you know, and
and they're and they're picking up the pieces of like
their parents and grandparents. It was just like like it
was like a nice level of people watching good Detroit
white trash. I understood it. Like I was like, ah,
because you know, I've been to a lot of tech shows,
but I'm always on the West Coast. So you have
your Juggalos in there, and there's jugglers there, You'll have

(50:01):
your like fucking the Natives love Tech nine, so there's
like a bunch of Native Americans that would come out.
But in Detroit it was just like Detroit white trap.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I was like, fuck, yeah, we're in about it.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I was like, we're fucking swimming in it in here. Hell, yeah,
I get it now, Detroit rock City, Baby, let's go.
Great venue. What's that venue called by Eminem's restaurant? No,
it's like maybe it's right next to the restaurant right fillmore.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Yeah, across the street from that's where it's where I
went for a real ro Manson show.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Oh that had to be dope to see him there.
That venue, it's not but it's not too big. It's
like perfect, like perfect, that was a great show. Yeah,
good times, good times. Do you guys like when you're
growing up in Detroit Little Caesars Obviously it's a staple.
It's from there. A lot of people don't understand that
where the pizza is always five dollars. No, No, I

(51:01):
feel like that was like a thing that happened later.
They got cheaper later, right.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
Yeah, I can explain it pretty good.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
They started on Mondays, So this is like ninety nine
two thousand, five dollars pizzas on Mondays, and I believe
it was like nine bucks every other day for a
large pepperoni and cheese. But on Mondays it was cracking yep.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
And they were like, yo, why are we iced to
do it all the time? Why are we only doing
this Monday.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Wow, they changed. It's like metro PCs out there. It changed.
It forced all the bigger places that go down on
their price.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Did the pizza change the taste before?

Speaker 4 (51:38):
I hate It's like I want to naturally say, yes,
I love pizza. But as a kid, I love Little
Caesars pizza. They had the big foot remember that? Oh yeah, man,
that was I love Little Caesars as a kid. But
I'm obsessed with New York style pizza.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
So you're not a Detroit style guy, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
No. I do like certain ones though, Like I could
tell you the good spots for with the cheese crown
around it. Yep, Square, it's a good, good Detroit pizza.
Square usually got the pepperoni under it. Yeah, but I'm
obsessed with a good New York pizza Chicago.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
That's you've been a pizza populist. I've been too.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Pizza it's about the size of a poet, like four
slices of it.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
See to me, that's not pizza.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
And something else me too. I swear to got us
at the exact same thing because if you got to
use a fork to eat it, to me, that's not pizza.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yeah, I like the pie. Yeah, Detroit pizza is the
number one Google type of pizza right now. Really a
pizza restaurant like five minutes from here.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
So yeah, speaking of that car, why do you invite me?

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Man?

Speaker 1 (52:44):
I mean you're invited. We go have dinner there. We
need to get some Detroit legend.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
I heard about this restaurant. Matter of fact, somebody told
me to ask you about the restaurant. Yeah, so what
did you inspire to?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
What up?

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (52:57):
It's funny because obviously it's like a Detroit saying you
know it. But when we initially I thought of the name,
it was more of like my old partner, he he
was thinking a dough boy from uh from No from
uh No. He was thinking, he's just like a this

(53:17):
is like an old ass fool who's just like, yo,
I want to do a hip hop inspired pizza ria.
He was thinking a do boy from Boys in the Hood.
So it's like, what up though, Like and I'm like, yeah,
that's also a Detroit thing. But he's like, yeah, we're
gonna have Detroit style pizza. So it just made sense
and we've had we've had some Detroit guys pulled up. Yeah,
it's fucking amazing. We have Detroit Roman in New York

(53:38):
style or New York's amazing. You like the New York.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
So we're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Foul Mouth. Will be the tester. I believe you.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
He went around like eighteen pizza shops and I go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Okay, so are you also? So this is great? It's
the guy who won't be He's Houston, Tony Acid. He
won't leave the basement. He's also he can tell you.
He could tell you all about any pizza and he could.
He's also, by the way, this is a hardcore stereotype.

(54:14):
He's got a mull that he's white, and he's into
Monster energy drinks.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
I'm actually I'm a big fan of the Monsters.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
No, of course not. They're too sweet. I don't know.
I don't want to.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
The girl loves them.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
I'm here and there.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Bro, you're so you're in a is your right? Just
the lemonade?

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yeah? Just the lemonade.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
You guys are in the an energy drink relationship.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Definitely.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
I got her into him because she could drink a
mountain dew. I'm dead serious. She needed some caffeine and
I also I was like, man, do you drink an
energy drink, and I knew she wasn't gonna drink the
ones I drink. I'm gonna if I go to a
store and I see some ship that says Bubba's Energy drink,
I'm like, what is this?

Speaker 1 (54:56):
No? I think the funniest part was the I don't
think you understand the fact you said.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
It's been drinking Mountain.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Dewe switched rover code red, Baja blast, sweat stroke. The
white trash is just e can through the pod right now?
Oh fago did you beat her on an icy p show?
Jesus Christ? This guy to the gas man, what'd you say? Yeah?

(55:29):
I see it.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
You got chicken spots over there? Good ones, he's there.
We double up on that place.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
You're the kind of guy I feel like you're in
a circle K seven eleven and you'll see that. You'll
see like the hot dog doing this, and you'll be
like the burrito say, hey, how long have that been? Nothing?

Speaker 6 (55:47):
Yep, hey, we just we just drove by that seven eleven.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
My first was let's stop at seven love. I said, great,
We're gonna go in there, grab a little bit of
food and go back over there.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
That sounds high fucking dinond fucking seven to eleven. They
got pizza too, bitch.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
All that pizza, the nachos all do then over there
like no.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Yo, your stomach is lit.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
You gotta take a mean ship every night like a
fucking sp oh yeah, oh, Mike, you're painting the bowl, bro,
both from the no carb Yeah. Oh you guys going keto.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Fucking up, sucking up, ye yesterday.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
We've been killing it since we got here.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Have you lost it? Anyway?

Speaker 4 (56:32):
I bro, first time I care, I was like to
eighty or some shit. I'm like fifty pounds later. Six No,
I'm like sixty five pounds later, And I wasn't the
first time. That's good, but I was down twenty five
more and then I had eaten season during the winter.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
So what did you grow up listening to in Detroit?

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Man, you just strike me as Shan was. I was
gonna say, rolling off the Psychopathic Records kind of fellah, Okay,
I'm just saying he strikes me as it like if
I saw you at the.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Gathering albums the first couple of albums, I think we
all were like, you couldn't help it when it first
came out, you know, not all of Us, but well
in there out in Detroit, it's like you couldn't miss it.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
We like we lived close.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
My cousin had the great MALINKO and he loved that ship.
I mean, that's the only album I ever listen.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
I was like an original, like I heard like dog
Beats and Ringmaster Carnival of Carnage their first few albums.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
I was really.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Sham and Ghetto Boys. That was like my my favorite.
Three six Mafia two. Yeah, I'm on. I bought Mystic
Styles like before, like Tartor Club Up came out like
just because I seen it at media play and was like,
what's this?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
And I grew up and purchased it. Gangst in it.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
I don't know, you know Texas, Oh you got research man? Man,
that was like forty eight.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
I'm thirty six, Okay, no thirty I'm thirty eight. Wait,
you just threw me off. Why did I say I
was thirty six because we were talking about three six
Mafia thirty eight. I was born in eighty seven. Okay, yeah,
so you know. So who's your favor? Ever, that's a

(58:06):
hard question. I would my first inclination is to say nas,
but favorite is different than who I think is the greatest.
I would say my favorite rapper of all times probably
two of my favorite rappers of all time. Favorite are

(58:30):
Freddie Gibbs and push A t Mmmm that Royce Black Thought.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
That's four.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Now the greatest to me is nas j z M.
It's differently, who do you think? I gotta ask you
this question because sure, because I always have this conversation
with people. There's like there's like very there's like a
some conversation you can have about who's like lyrically the

(59:04):
most astute artist. And it's like, am I think Royce
is in that combo Black Thought loop A Kendrick? Would
you say that that's like a fair like Jedi club
of just like insane wordsmiths, And it's still red Man

(59:30):
in it too. I don't know if Redman has like
the I mean, I think Red Man is one of
the greatest rabbits of all time. And be clear, I
just mean in terms of like Ryan patterns and just
like the ability to like do some really fucking insane
aerobatics when it comes to bars, and like, I just
I think that that's kind of like the group. I mean,

(59:52):
there's probably some underground folks, but I think Royce Black
thought like Loupe is a fucking I mean, he's a maniac.
I think Eminem is the guy you know obviously, who
do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
I think you named a lot of the right guys.
If you're adding like extra guys in there, maybe they
don't necessarily get mentioned. Like Pharaohs incredible for sure. Do
you guys are gonna do something crazy? That's them and
nobody else can really do besides them?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
For sure? Gino was a fucking beast.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Cannabis his his first his first couple of albums, Man,
his first album, Monster.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
You know, you guys had a you know, a little
cannabis thing going. Yeah, the cannabis. That was interesting, Evan.
I mean, I feel like y'all was beefing with all
kinds of ill fucking people like Dilated People's ever Last,
And there was like the the mainstream beefs that like
made the albums, and then there was like the random

(01:00:52):
like mixtape beefs that didn't quite make the albums. You
had to be like kind of like following like what
was going on to be like, wait a minute, why
does Eminem not like evidence from Dilated People's going on? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
I remember feeling that way. I'm just a few years
off from you, and I remember when I first heard that.
I was like, damn, evidence, what's going.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
On with Yeah? Good times? Those are the man, some
of those it sucks because like a lot of that
dope ass, like the mixtape Airship is just like you
gotta find like shitty YouTube links because I think that
Pip's gone now. Yeah, yeah, that pips are raps out here.
I think a live mixtapes is still run. But I
think a lot of like those, like a lot of

(01:01:29):
like fucking Green Lantern eminem Ship, like all that ship. Yeah,
super dope, so good man, so good, so good, so good.
Any features on the new album.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Yeah, I just did a single it be real dope, yep,
So we just have that video to be real man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Yeah, one of the ghosts. Man, it's just a fucking
legend and underappreciated.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Like, man, that's the first dude I've really smoked with out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Here, man, really Yeah the Rainbow Room, you know what
I'm saying, of course, Okay, man, I was like, damn,
we are here, we can smoke and eat.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
And I think somebody like overdose, like a famous person
overdosed upstairs. Yeah you know who used to always be
in there. Every time you go to the Rainbow Room.
Ron Jeremy would be there before he went to jail.
He was there every like when I say every single night,
I mean like seven nights a week. Ron Jeremy, Like

(01:02:26):
Ron Jeremy's at the Rainbow Room just kind of like
existing there, getting free drinks and food off of being
Ron Jeremy, is what they used to say. What because
we're like, yo, you're Ron Jeremy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Let me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
I saw Ron Jeremy at the Rainbow Room. And that
was the night that my wife really realized how sick
of a fuck I was, because she was like, I
was like, oh, ship, ron Jeremy. My wife doesn't know
who the fuck that is. She's like, yo, who is
that guy? By the way, Ron Jeremy is a really
weird looking motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, oh,

(01:03:03):
that's like he's a porn star. And my wife's like,
why do you know the names of the dudes? By
this time, this was the second dude porn star that
I pointed out in our time together. And then but
this guy's because we also saw Brian Pumper.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Okay, that's got not my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
But he's you know, he's Brian Pumper. I'm like, oh shit,
Brian per what are you doing? Why are you living
out of your CenTra? Are you good? Yeah? But uh,
Bron Jeremy, that's the guy. If your girl is not
into porn, it doesn't understand the nineties. And you say,
oh no, no, you understand. He's got to really like
he's a legend, Like he's you know, he's like the dad. Yeah,

(01:03:46):
you're a sick fuck you over here fucking geeking out
on a fucking porn porn dude at a restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
How are you supposed to point at him and say, look.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Like it's Ron Jeremy call tricon. True he is, yep,
he is, man, he is.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
But if you don't know he is so.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
B reals on your guys project, yeah, yep, yeah, video
shot yep. Uh are you wrapping on there? Are you
just making the I am on.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
A track wrapping yep?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Damn? How you know that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
You just asked, is the first time I made it on?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Is?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Uh? Did you try to make it before? And he
said no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
I would I quit. I quit rapping for ten years
and then one day I just felt like rapping again.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Right, I don't know if you tried before, and he
was like, we had.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Like twelve songs basically an EP, but nothing made it right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
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do you how do you? How does he make that

(01:05:43):
transition making the beats? If you him, you should, Hey,
I got something, play it and then don't tell them you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
You ever been in the studio when the artists is
doing a song.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
What his boy there? What he kind of like right
to the beat? He don't read everybody to know he
got them. He want everybody to, oh, yo yo, what
you work? What you got?

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
What you oh?

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Trust me. I've been in a million of these sessions
where there's just a room full of artists, but there's
only like one to two people who like matter and like,
I don't want to say not matter. You know people,
but you know what it is. It's like, but they're
writing and they're doing it in a way they want
people to know they're doing it. They want to get
invited to the booth. Damn, oh yo, you got something?
Go ahead, Yeah, see what you got, bro?

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
So how do you break that down? But does the
manager got to come in to be the bad guy?

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
How do you guess it? It just all depends the situation.
You're at his house, in his basement, so he could
do whatever the fuck he wants.

Speaker 6 (01:06:39):
I'm not the one, but we watch it all happened
a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
That's why we really.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Happened so much. I want to be like, honestly, I'm
a dick, right, So, like I have an artist and
names Alexis is pretty successful artists. So I'll just say, yo,
you can then records it, just so you know it's
not gonna come out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Ah you saying that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Yeah? Damn. Like there's been so many songs he's done
with his homies and I'm like, you know, what the
fuck is this dude on this song? Take it off
like it's not coming out with this, Like, God bless him. Yeah,
I had to take him off of songs, you know. Cyrus.
Shout out to Cyrus, who's producers the podcast. He also
happens to be an aspiring artist. He's such an aspiring
artist that he resigned from being the producer of the

(01:07:25):
Bootleg cap podcast so he can chase his dreams at
thirty one. So maybe he could come out to Detroit,
Cyrus and Foulmouth can work on the Basement album Volume two.
He's about he's about the This is like his last
week is the producer, because he's gonna pursue his his
aspirations as a musical artist. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yeah, so as long as you've never just homeless in La.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Yeah mm hmm, to be this the second time you
drop that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Bar, it's reality here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
How many movie stars that you got coming in on
the bus who want to be a movie star?

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
How about this? We go to this extra we go.
I go to this restaurant right here, it's called Magnolia Grill.
We go every fucking morning. Were sitting in the corner,
we got our table, me and my co host and
my producer from my radio show. And there's like a
wall of h what are those the shots called? Like
that the black and white the headshots of just like

(01:08:28):
like when I say nobody's I mean like there's not
a soul on this fucking wall. Anybody in the world recognize.
So we're sitting in this corner and uh and we're like,
uh talking to the lady and we're like, yeah, who
are these fucking who are these people on this wall?
Like obviously they're actors, they're just regulars. And I was like, yeah,
but like, is anybody like, oh, see that guy, that's

(01:08:52):
him right there. So it's this guy, and so we
he's I don't know, he's an actor by trade. You
he looks like he's not doing the greatest. To be fair,
that being said, we start we start a conversation with
him and he's telling us about his new show. He's like, Yo,
have you heard of the show The Pit. It's on HBO.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
Max.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
I was like, yeah, I heard of it. It's like
the New Yar. He's like, yeah, I'm in the show.
He's not really in the show, but he's in the show.
But it's a lot of folks who are like, you know, gigging.
They'll call it right like, yeah, you're a fucking maybe
you're a patient, maybe you had surgery in the show,
or you know whatever, Like My My Coast James was
an episode of Gray's Anatomy. Yeah, real quick, like fucking

(01:09:35):
hundred dollars. You know. Would you ever do movies? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Yeah, I was supposed to be in the uh one
of the lead roads in the Longest Yard with Adam Sandler.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Really, I was supposed play Cheeseburg Eddy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
What happened? He was on tour? Man? Damn? Yeah. Do
you ever think about like, what if? What if? What if?
Which tour wasn't Uh? It was the first D twelve tour,
so you can'tnot be there. And it went like it
was like amatory be like yo, y'all would be fine
without me. And it was like ten days before the

(01:10:09):
tour starts. Oh, who was it? Was it Adam Sander?
They reached out or Adam reached out? Did you ever
try to spend the block like Adam?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Adam come, Adam spending the Black Man?

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Adam?

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Yeah, I'm coming for the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
You gotta Adam people, all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I feel like I feel like if someone did a
Detroit R rated comedy about like him would be hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Yes, yes, man, this dude right here, man, listen, I
think you should be offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
If you talked to the about sports, he can break
down every defense, what position.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
I don't played mad in a long time, actually, but.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
You like you can like read o, it's a fucking
three four.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
Extremely good at super tech Mobile. As weird as that sounds.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Wow, but he can do you are full of surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I'm gonna tell you about any defense.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
This motherfucker said, I'm really good at extreme technical Just
be clear, what the fuck? What the fuck? How do
you play that? What are we supposed to do?

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
They still do tournaments like updated teams? Yeah, super Techmobile?

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
In fact, you know that you're you're on? Are you
on like the techmobile reddit? You don't understand they're still They.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Just destroy people. I got a sub five down there.
I just crushed people on that. Boy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
What does a seventy five inch TV look like? If
Technobi is on? How pixelated is that ship?

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Oh man, it's it's a straight line. Here's what used
to be.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
That was the game of Bo Jackson, right yep? Yeah
tech Mobile? Yeah? So, uh you're a football football is you're? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
Definitely? It's always always should I know?

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Is football about any random defense? And just see what
you're saying? Just test it out?

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Okay, give me what type of defense? Does I mean that? Okay,
that's easy. Yeah, Aaron Glenn left right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Yeah, but it's still a hybrid. It's like a hybrid
four to three. It's got like elements of a three four,
but it's more of four to three. It's a four
to three front. I think the safeties are more like
a three fourth set up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Though. Dude, this guy's a big Yeah. This guy's a landbacker.
This guy's a hoot. He's a fucking hoot man. What
is that? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
So please, I'm not trying to figure out the way
to scrap.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Is a fucking hoot man? Like, you know, that's fucking
found mount He's a real hook. You go over to
his house. We can play tech mobile, we can pet
the cat. Yeah, I mean his wife's fucking kicking empty
fucking mountain dudes down the stairs. I quit, man, jesus,
are you a Mountain dew fanatic as well? Recovery Younger

(01:12:55):
not Fagoagels are pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Yeah, it smokes black and mom wow, two packs of two.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Yeah you're drinking three energy drinks. Yeah, two packs of
black of miles, Like, what the fuck, there's a crazy part.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
We're gonna die. I run three miles a day, six
days a week. I know it's a lot, right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Did you start two weeks ago? Is this a Detroit mullet?
Is this what's going on with I'm over? Is this
like a thing you just have banged for a while?
This hair does lest Yeah, nice girl, it looks like it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
She does.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
I bet she does right after hitting that monster. Your
kids have moments, You're no, No, mullets would be kind
of cool, little matching mulley gang.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
Actually no, he's got my girls, saw nah? I help
her raise him. He's got a mullet too. Of course.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Saves money, right, Like, I'm either shaving your bald or
you're getting them on the fucking the Detroit theoba we're doing,
it's mullets or shaved heads. And it's too cool to
have a shaved head in Detroit.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
I feel like, because what I'm just getting this cut
when it's fucking negative eight in February. Bro, it's that ship.
It's a tough right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
What have you been able to uh connect with the
obviously the Detroit music scene? Is you get fucking insane
to Detroit? You know a lot about the mix? Yeah,
I like a lot of Then you come here like
one time for like a special something Yeah, I was
out there for like a week. Yeah, it was good.
I mean we hung out with I mean I'm a
type with like like Vez was my dog, like a
good guy. The baby is a good friend. Skill a

(01:14:46):
baby shot to Wan. I ran into you know what?
I ran into one randomly in Jamaica. Oh ship, Yeah,
good guy. But yeah, I think the Detroit scene is
it's crazy too, because it's all it was always?

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Because there was it felt like there was always like
a certain level of like I don't know if it's animosity,
resentment or just like like the newer Detroit guys or
the street side having towards like am not necessarily paying
attention to what they had going on or or or
embracing it. Is that fair to say? Right? Right? Did you?

(01:15:24):
Because I know roys will bring m shit and like
try to put them on a certain artist, but like,
was that ever something that, like you, it felt like
coming up because there was even when you guys were
fucking cracking like on the road D twelve ship, there's
this whole other side of the Detroit music scene. It's
going on like like the you know, the gangster shit,

(01:15:44):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Right, which is really real, which is really the majority.
We really had a minority, right, so it's just happened
to the minority, you know, on first right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Because it's like slum village. It's you know, it's Guilty Simpson,
Guilty into a crazy black milk Dylan, like a different genre.
But it was like that that nationally cracked out of that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
But that was like our escape goat from Detroit. What's
the hip hop that saved us? You see what I'm saying.
But it was like, you know what I mean, but
the norm of how our cousins and uncles and act
is more how te grizzly, you know what I'm saying.
That's that's like a Detroit style really right, So it's

(01:16:32):
kind of weird how I'm explaining it, but.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
It makes sense, yeah, because it's it's crazy because it's
almost like the counterculture of of of out there ended
up cutting through more than what the norm would be
because it's like Detroit. It's either super like sham i CP,
super like sensationalistic like imagery, or it's like rapping ass,

(01:16:55):
rapping ass.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
You know, it seemed like Detroit just out of nowhere
to just start building this foundation, like because all of
us got on, but none of us got on at
the same time. So it was like guilty was doing
this thing, slum was doing anything then D twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Or Obi Trice and shot Obi Trice man.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Yeah, so all that just but we all come from
the same era, right, so it just made it, you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Know what I'm saying, because who were like the street
like back then? Uh who the guy we were hanging
out with in Detroit, who's helping us just kind of
move around? Street Lord one yeah, Street one yeah, og yeah,
super o G yeah, super nice guy. That's the guy
who sent us to the White Strip club by the
man Okay, because I was like, yo, I want to
go to Truth. He's like, yo, no, I got you.
I got the spot for you. And he said this.

(01:17:42):
We walked and we're like, oh, he probably thought you'all
wanted the white No god, no, he want a hood bars.
I mean, I just I'm not in the white women
many My wife's Mexican. Okay, I'm just you know, I
don't want to fuck anybody look like I could be
related to. Okay, yeah, this is not for me. Oh

(01:18:04):
so you're white, I'm white, Okay, Yeah, I'm about to do
a Spanish, not at all German and Irish. Okay, I'm
I'm foul mouth white.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
Everybody. Everybody's got preferences like that's how you see it.
You want to fuck somebody?

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
What? What? What? What's your mixture of caucasidy?

Speaker 6 (01:18:26):
Who really knows what the truth is?

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
But German, nice, Dutch, Irish, nice, Irish, Native American. My
mom's twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Every white dude, every white dude, every white dude, every
white dude, every white dude's got to say I'm native
to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you will never beat a
white person that doesn't say that. You can see it
right right right, yeah to mind too. No, my great grandma,
you could see it in her too. Oh yeah, we're

(01:18:58):
all fucking Every white person is Native American. If you
let him break down their fucking heritage. We're all full
of ship. We are the colonizers.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
Who knows what we really are? I mean right ancestry
dot com day?

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Who we are? What really gives the fun?

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Who we are? Yo? Are you taking who on the
on the higher tier of Detroit Lions quarterbacks? Would you
put uh Jared Goff above Stafford yet?

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Really?

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
The second you want a playoff game. How many Stafford
winning twelve years?

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Yeah, but he had just terrible coaching.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
He did it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
But here's the thing in.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
The fucking GM. Who was that GM?

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Martin Mayhew. He was good at first, and then it
just you start feeling a lot of drafts.

Speaker 6 (01:19:46):
You know what, he was good when.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
They had the obvious picks Stafford.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Sue, Megatron or Saint Brown. There's only one right answer here.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Come Batron God. But right, I mean obviously, like I
hate to just even go against sat On right now
because he's so good right now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
But he's not Megatron good.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Well, Megatron's uh, talent wise, he's going He's like the
Lebron of receivers talent.

Speaker 6 (01:20:09):
Wise, who Lebron?

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Who Maga Trump?

Speaker 6 (01:20:12):
Yes, that's the physical talent.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Yes, yes, nine seasons he played or ten?

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
I think, just not eight o seven to fifty nine seasons?

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
No, Barry Sanders played nine.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Yep, I think I think Megatron isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Like the the greatest players in franchise history fucking were like,
you know what, fuck Detroit, We're losers. I'm out, I'm
tired of this ship.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
It was. I hate to say that's so that's literally
what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Barry Sanders like I'm out Mega Tron. If you didn't
want to get hurt, no, I know, but if you
if the fucking Lions were fucking in the mix.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
Barry lost his love though even said it he was
coming off the worst season of.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
His career was when you played for the Lions. Back then,
it wasn't I just can't playing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
For the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
He used to try to convince ourselves, like, man, they
got a chance this weekend, like Patriots coming down?

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Are you did Dan Campbell? Because I could place I
see it. I No, I just see it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Listen, bro, We're around a lot of big rappers, Bro,
and I'm used to it. But when I went to
Disney on Ice and I Ben Johnson with his.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Family, the offensive coordinator, Yes, I was talking about let
me ask you a question.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
I was losing it over him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Do you think you have a man crush on Dan Campbell?

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
I love him, not sexually, of course, like in the
way that in the way that like Elon loves Trump,
Do you love like loves Trumph? Yeah, Kid Rock loves Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
But it's all of them. You gotta give Brad Holmes
his credit for draft and these guys like, look at
men guys. He said on Draft Crazy, we got like
five Hall of Fame guys are on Hall of Fame projectories.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Right this Lions podcast. I'd love to do that. Yeah
he should, right as Sam Linebaker, what's the same, But yeah,
who's the same line lineback?

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
It's like, uh, you can play a red girl linebacker.
It can be like a pass rusher or basically just foumblits.
And he's he's more of an inside guy who can
play on the outside. Though, So when you line up
to inside linebackers behind your behind your defensive line, he's
gonna play like strong side or Weeks Sideway's gonna play
a little bit closer.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Could you could you change a pair of break pads?

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
But no, I couldn't do nothing to a car. I
can barely change a light ball, but the house I
get my friends to do it. I'm like, I can't
figure this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Guy for grass man. M hmm, I don't know that
means it means he's not cutting his grass in the cities.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
Yeah no, No, I pay people to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
My girl, does it be for me?

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Which are you?

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Are you the type of guy whose yard gets a notice?

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
Like I did once, but we're usually pretty good. My
girl keeps up with that. She's pretty good about it. Well,
remember when my lawnmower doing yard. No, she likes doing
that stuff. She's gonna be doing like taking she makes
the she makes it, likes it all. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
It's funny is if you're not alone with that. My
wife does the does the loan because I'm at work,
like fucking it all day every day. But she does
it resentfully.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Yeah, so is mine.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
So what will happen is I'll be at home and
I'll look outside and she's doing this, and she's doing
the lawnmower, and I'll be like, I'll go on. I'll
be like, yo, yo, I'll do it, watch out and share. No,
if I need you should already have done it. I'm
already doing it. Now leave me alone. She should. I'm like, no,
let me get it. Yes, I shouldn't have to ask you.
What the fuck? If you just tell me what to do,

(01:23:31):
I'll do it. I'm stupid, I'm an idiot. Tell me
what to do and then I do. I'm not gonna
take the initiative to do ship. Yep, for fus sakes.

Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
Maybe bro, my girl walk over and hand me all
these bills.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
I'm like, what are these? She's like some of them
are three weeks old? And then I get even I
get scared. I'm like, all right, put them down.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
I want to look at them.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
Walk out the room. I'm like, am I dealing with
this right now? If you would let me grab it,
no problem?

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Kick the can down the road? Yeah, m damn. So
once see I'm dropping July what July tenth? Man, July tenth? Anything? Uh?
You got twenty year anniversary for your album? Man? Yeah,
you should do do something special.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Man. I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Man, I mean you're missing out on like one hundred grand,
so you can need to think about it or make
one hundred grand. What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Because I'm an only fan, only fan, A lonely man
with an only fan.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
How many times have you use that in a wrap?

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
But I want to do it again?

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Yeah? Because it's just I'm a lonely fan. It's almost
like I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
A lonely Man's a special words and doll new design
behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
It could be your song. You could get only fan
chicks in it. You know, I don't have found out
solicit from from his account.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
I can do some shots with us, you know what
I mean. That's about it nice.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
We'll look support the album. July seventh, July tenth. My
birthday is July fifth, so it's gonna be a birthday.
Past celebration party, release parties, past porn party, past porn party.
Is that it's gonna because there's gonna be porn stars.
Is because all the guys are gonna be watching porn together.

(01:25:19):
Because this makes it way different to have a party.
When you say.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
Porn party, I guess it is a little bit different.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Because when you just say it's gonna be it's gonna
be a porn party, It's like, Okay, what's that mean exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
It's gonna be a lot of it comes lunch.

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
I don't know what that means, mouth finishes.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
There's gonna be a lot of horse.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
No, he comes lunch, as he's saying to him and
his boys used to use when they used to, when
they used to do math, when they used to.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
When we see my mom walking in like food here
comes to lunch, we get all happy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
You are you trying to say that were your friends
trying to bang your mom?

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
It's free tell them about your boys, we're here, like
fifteen when he used to have this competition. He thought
it was funny to bring this girl over. He used
to give everybody hud and try to see you would
say the funniest thing to her when they were coming.
And so somebody turned everything into a competition.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Someone was coming in, they said, here, come, here comes launch.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
For my basement. Hurd him upstairs.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
What'd you say?

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
Just laughed?

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
You know, what'd you say when you came? I wasn't
part of it, just so you just hosted the blowdrop.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
There was other people that were red high. I didn't join.
I didn't join the party.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
They're like, yeah, let's go to foul Mouth's house. We
know he's gonna let us get our dick stuck over there.
That fucking loser, What the fuck you're not gonna particu.
You gotta be first in line to get the head.
It's at your house. Hey, guys, I'm down, but just
be clear. Won't be no sloppy seconds over here. I'm
getting my cock suck first. I'm hosting this shin dink. Yeah,
what the fuck? Don't you? Foul Mount? You were fucking up?

(01:26:58):
Was she ugly? Was she fat? Well? She had a baby.

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
You know, it was like an average girl. She wasn't
like hot, but she wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
We had a girl called the slop Monster.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
Okay, okay, now we're talking.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Now we talk.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
She was a beast of a woman, A beast of
a fourteen year old.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
I was fourteen too, by the way, okay me, I
was fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Just disgusting, but uh could suck the chrome off of
a fucking you know carbu writor you know they suck
a fucking golf ball through a water? Was that one,
the slop Monster? I stole her DVDs. Well, she was
sucking my friend's dick at her house. I emptied out.
You know, back then DVDs were expensive. She had a

(01:27:39):
sick ass collection. I took every disc out of the
case and just put the cases back, so when she
came out, it looked like everything was fine until they
wanted to go watch So they wanted to see better
Black three Bitch and it was missing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Fuck out of here, had no company.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
I mean, her parents probably weren't too happy with her
once they came home and they realized that all their
movies were gone. Die Hard with a Vengeance was mine?

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
No more?

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Yeah, she once once we uh, I think later on
that night, she said, Hey, did you guys happen to
take my movies? I don't care, just I'm not you know,
just I want to just let you guys know, I
don't care. I don't know if we were replied. I
think my boy Ramsa just went back over there for sure,
which was risk for sure? Yeah, yeah, shots taking a

(01:28:26):
shot for a shot, shot money shot all right, album
coming out July tenth, and uh, foul mouth anything else
going on with you? Besides? I don't know. A bunch
of fucking white trash excellence.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
A bunch of white trash excellence.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Detroit Lions one hundred days away. He got a fucking
mountain dude, he got the guys, got energy drink New
Beat Energy drinks. About to get the basement together, about
to build a booth down, said pro.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
Yeah, equipment making Tony Hawk, well, Tony Hawk pros.

Speaker 6 (01:29:00):
No, I never, I never got into that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:01):
I had a bunch of friends wis scated but tech mobile, Yeah,
lots of Technoba.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Resident evil kind of guy you are, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Nah?

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
I didn't play many games. I will pac Man in Techmobile.
That's about it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
Yeah, yeah, I love pac Man. How old are you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Forty two?

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Now you're not How how can you be four years
older than me and say you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
Love I didn't get. I didn't get.

Speaker 6 (01:29:25):
We had PlayStation one, yep, I got put up on
it like twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Motherfucker said, I'm not kidding, fucking I love pack Man.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
I got crazy into it when I finally played it.
Oh my, yeah, you're You're a peculiar guy.

Speaker 6 (01:29:37):
One hundred and thirty thousands of my high score.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
It's a good score.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
It's a good score. I'm telling you, that's a good score.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
Once time I want to. I had a job and
when I first played a nine to five and I
went to work thirty minutes late because I was so
unstoppable on pac Man that I had to keep playing
and called and called it made up a f excuse
while was still going because I couldn't believe it that
it was happening like this. So I called the job
and let them know that somebody in the family was

(01:30:07):
sick because I was on fire.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Were you playing Golden Tea at your local bars? Too?

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
Just just pack bad?

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Just well, appreciate you guys for coming do a podcast.
Please Hey, what's your basement?

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Smell like Black and Miles Rose looking. I'm the best
thing that ever happened to them. This is Black and
Mile Select. I spend fifteen dollars a day on these guys,
four hundred and fifty dollars a month for my friends.
And at some point they're going to have to hit
me up so we can get a sponsor. So anybody

(01:30:43):
knows what's going on over there at Black and Mile.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
I love how dead Seriously He's like, look, guys, this
for fifty I really like to make that even Yeah,
send me a box a month.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Man, I leave his house. That's my Black and Miles.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
Giving these guys almost twenty five great Uber driver. They
rode the windows. I'm completely invested.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
What's your energy drink of choice?

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
If it was by choice the original, it's the orange
rippet Citrus, but it's so I.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
Don't even know what what is RiPP it? I don't
know if it is.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
Next if time we go to each it's a Fago brand.
It is incredible, though Citrus. It's an orange one.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
Okay, so what about everywhere? What's the main what's your main? Okay?
Not everyone's got fucking Fago and ripping.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
The little sugar free red Bulls because they're so easy. Okay,
but I'm the guy who wants to try some weird shit,
you know, like you know, you almost a fake looking redit.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
I am subscribed to the energy drink Reddit real yeah,
cheap stories.

Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
It's like it's fake red bullets.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
There's a few of those, and they almost like it's
the same color. Red thunder, red thunder. Yeah, they're good
to No, I'm not a red Bull. I'll drink a
red Bull if I have to, but I'm like, give
me the big, big two hundred milligrand three hundred milligram.

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
Can you do the little ones? It makes me feel
better about my self not drinking one of those. I know,
I'll just keep going afterwards. It is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Appreciate you guys coming through and uh man, thanks for
having me. Congrats on the Keto Journey and the new
album and man, new music video would be real just
got up. So it's coming soon, coming soon. Man, that's
more surprises. Any other features songs you just got to recording?
How on the Alchemist? Yeah, so that we gotta I

(01:32:26):
got Cassidy Cassidys.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
I was just about to say, I don't think we
even mentioned that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
But Cassie, he kills become in the basement.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
I wish you would have about introduced with my dogs.
My girl could have gave him a.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
He said he was sending it through the Pro Tools email.
You want. I bet he did. I bet you wants
everyone to come.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
I got to tell him to sell me waves because
people will send me the pro tool session and it's
hilarious the way Acidpro opens it up. I think they
all open them up like that. If it's not Pro Tools,
it's like two thousand tracks.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Have you thought about just getting pro Tools?

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
I mean, no, I'm down, but I'd prefer to sim
with a good engineer and learn the correct way so
I can get all the shortcuts.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
You know what I mean, I get it. Well, listen.
I appreciate you guys coming through uh Go Sport. The
new album is the pre order out yet pre order up?

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
No, no, I didn't be up here the next couple
of weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Next couple of weeks. New album on the way, Bizarre.
Appreciate you man, Thanks, thanks for a wow boy.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
M hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
Somebody's for Little Caesars in the twenty I don't know who,
but somebody probably a fab No.

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
No Little Caesars. Coney Island.

Speaker 1 (02:01:35):
Oh god man, we were in Detroit. I did not
like the Coney's.

Speaker 2 (02:01:38):
Oh my god, I'm not hating.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
It's just it's.

Speaker 3 (02:01:46):
Not It's just what is whatever is breakfast?

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
I know they got homeless, they got eggs, they got
chicken wings, they got cheesecake, they got ready cheese, fries, smoothies,
they got everything. It's a one stop shot. It's like
a really bad cheesecake factory. You ever go to cheesecake
factory and look at the menu and you're like, there's
just too much shit on this menu. There's too much
shit on the Coney menu.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
But it depends on what cody you went to.

Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
I went to two or three Cony, so the baby
took me to one that was okay, okay. I had
a sandwich and you said, okay, what's the name of it?
I don't know, but I'll tell you which one sucks.
What Nickey D's on eight Mile? Oh my god, by truth, man,
what did you eat eat from there? What did we get? Mother? Oh?

(02:02:29):
I was just ordering hell ship.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
You can't order it, Coney Don't order no chicken fingers
from there.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
I pulled up bumping M and M. That's it. Remember
that I was like, wait'n eight mile, about to get
a coney? What play run, Rabbit run? And this motherucker
on a hundred dog order. I don't know everything, dude.
Everybody was passing it around and nobody was impressed. I was,

(02:02:57):
And then everybody was like, is it Nikkid's or mickey?

Speaker 4 (02:03:00):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (02:03:00):
I'm sure you should have ate truths now that is true.
I have a feeling we were out there and we
had some uh, we had some some homies looking after us,
you know. And the night that we all wanted to
go to the strip club, they couldn't come, So I

(02:03:21):
wanted to go to Truth. Okay, they sent us to Babylons.
Does that sound some white club?

Speaker 3 (02:03:29):
Okay you're talking about the club announcers be like.

Speaker 1 (02:03:36):
Like a steakhouse in there. It was fucking The girls
all looked like juggalos, brot of tasty white bitches in
the mile. Literally, no I could fuck I might be
saying the name. Did we did go to King of
Diamonds King? Yeah, Mazi was performing. That was fun. See
that's more of my speed. I do think Detroit has

(02:03:57):
the most beautiful black women in the world.

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
Yeah, just give it up for Detroit. Man, noise from
my city.

Speaker 1 (02:04:04):
Man, fucking love Detroit. It's a good, good place man.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Just Coney Island.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
I just it's not that I don't funk with it.
It's just I mean, did you start off at a
breakfast first? I think I don't know, dude, he had
breakfakay what you eat? Almort Figure had an almid.

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
Do you want to fuck with the DOMI do you
want to fuck with the omelet?

Speaker 1 (02:04:28):
It's just it's just whatever. It's like, it's like fucking
you know, it's like going and eating like at the carnival.
It's like Carnival.

Speaker 3 (02:04:35):
It's not bad. But listen to Detroit. You see more
Coney's than you see McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (02:04:41):
For sure. No, it's its own thing, for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:04:43):
Because could you go and get like a burger and
the fry for like seven dollars A real I respect.

Speaker 1 (02:04:49):
I wish we had more of that ship out here.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
It don't work everywhere though. I think they tried one
in Atlanta and it didn't work.

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
Yeah, they've tried it, you know, I'm from Phoenix. They've
tried to do Coney's. A bunch of times and they
never last.

Speaker 2 (02:04:59):
But so what's popular Phoenix, Mexican.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
Food, Mexican food and Mexican Food twenty four to seven.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
HM shout out to the five mouth man.

Speaker 3 (02:05:34):
He he's on Eminem's last album too.

Speaker 1 (02:05:37):
Oh yeah, so yeah, which which song?

Speaker 2 (02:05:39):
Anti Christ?

Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
Oh? Great song? Ye, that's by the way, that last
Eminem album. Yeah, Oh my god, spoken, I think it
might be. I think it's his fourth last album. I
think there's the three that you can't touch some Shady
lp em and m Show and Marshamadows and then I

(02:06:01):
put the new one.

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
Damn. Okay, Yeah, that's fire.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
That ship is amazing, dude, and that you know, I
don't know if you guys have some inside information. I
feel like it was purposely made where you could listen
to the album backwards.

Speaker 2 (02:06:18):
That is that, Matthew, because.

Speaker 1 (02:06:21):
A part of it is Eminem killing slim Shady and
slim Shady killing or Marshall killing slim Shady, and but
if you listen to it the other way around, it's
the other way around. It's fucking man's amazing. I gotta
really think about the deepest you did. Yeah, there's so
many that you would think for sure. I wish you

(02:06:44):
would have toreed that modifier though.

Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
Man, Man, I don't know. Man, we're getting kind of old, man.

Speaker 1 (02:06:49):
You You and M still keeping contact regularly.

Speaker 2 (02:06:52):
For sure, Yeah, for sure that's the homie.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
Man. I've heard like, was he always the way he is?
Because I've heard he these days the studios like treated
like a job, like it clocks out at a certain time. Whatever,
it's five o'clock whatever. It's like, there's not like the
all days studio sessions. Was he always like that when
you guys were working, it was like very militant, like
in and out.

Speaker 3 (02:07:14):
Like we was broke care if we didn't have any money, right,
so we was fucking scrambling together.

Speaker 1 (02:07:20):
In a different basement.

Speaker 3 (02:07:22):
Yeah, in a different basement, in a different basement, trying
to get two hours. We came from an era where
you had to add your wraps already're written for you
with the studios.

Speaker 1 (02:07:29):
Yo. That's real, dude, Yeah, like, hey, look, we only
got enough for two hours, so you better come through.
Lay that ship down if you fuck up. We're keeping
it right, that's real. Before you could just go to
Guitar Centering buy interface. Did you ever have any issues

(02:08:12):
traveling like back in the day, like were you because
I know like certain countries would be a bitch to
get get in and out of.

Speaker 3 (02:08:18):
Uh Canada, they don't w't let nobody out of the fun.

Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
You can throw a rocke heit Canada from Detroit.

Speaker 3 (02:08:25):
Yeah, I've been to Canada. That's why I said. I've
been there like a hundred times. Never had a problem.
I had one case that was dismissed. You know what
I'm saying, everyone with the trial or nothing. And I've
been I've been there a hundred times. And then one
time I was going to Canada, but I had to
go through.

Speaker 2 (02:08:42):
The Seattle Way in a different way. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:08:45):
So it wasn't Wednesday the way you're talking about, Like
we were good that way, but I think we were
starting on the West coast, so we had to fly
to Seattle.

Speaker 2 (02:08:53):
And didn't drive to Vancouver. Yeah, to the border or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:08:58):
And uh I got there and the dude was like.

Speaker 3 (02:09:02):
Told me to come to the frontastic and he was
like he looked at me, he said, uh so, what's
just on your record?

Speaker 1 (02:09:09):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:09:09):
I said, what are you talking about? He said, I'm
not going to ask you, but one more time, what
was it on your record? I was like an assault case.
But that got dismissed.

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
He was like, they can still see it. He said
he got any weed on you? I said, no, I would.
Why would I come to Canada with weed on me?
He said, that's what Snoop Dogg said yesterday. And guess
what he didn't get in.

Speaker 2 (02:09:36):
And he denied me.

Speaker 1 (02:09:38):
That's fucking crazy. This was on what tour? Was this big? Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:09:44):
I don't I don't think it was a toy. I
think it was like a Canada toy. Was a Canada tour.

Speaker 1 (02:09:48):
That's crazy. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
You have never been denied in the country.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
Mm hmm. Actually no, I paid my will.

Speaker 2 (02:09:59):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:10:00):
I was going to TJ and they tried to Yeah,
slide them a twenty. Get right in good place, good places,
good place. They got good dental. My Dennis is there.

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
You heard about it. I've never been there.

Speaker 1 (02:10:13):
Stem cells there he gets stem cell research. What Joe
Rogan does his stem cell this Tijuana?

Speaker 2 (02:10:17):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (02:10:18):
Okay, bbl's too Yeah you don't. Yeah, that's probably not
the move though, you know what I'm saying, like, yeah,
I don't know if you want to get pick TJ bb.

Speaker 2 (02:10:29):
L man, you know don't put that in the lyrics.

Speaker 1 (02:10:32):
Go to what to Tijuana? Go on and say you
had Chinese food?

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
What all three?

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
Yeah, Chinese food in Tijuana is really famous. It doesn't
make any sense, but it makes sense. Man, the greatest
Chinese food in America.

Speaker 2 (02:10:45):
In what you think by anybody moving to Thailand?

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
Man, dude, I was in Thailand for Rolling Loud last year,
and I understand why everyone's moving to Thailand. Oh wow,
it's a vibe. The food is super cheap, it's beautiful. Yeah, okay, okay,
everyone's moving there, and like Hella, people are moving there.
They're they're like, just like Hella, couples are moving out

(02:11:10):
there and like just making YouTube videos about living in
ten Yea and making money. They're giving out digital they're
called digital nomad passports, So if you're if you work
digitally remotely, they'll give you a passport or a visa
rather for a year, just no questions asked, your year visa.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
I mean you're gonna be blogging about it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:31):
No, I'm not going. I mean, I love Thailand. I'm
gonna go back in DJ in August, but okay, I'm
not living there. I would live there if I was
retired and single, couldn't be married, shouts to my wife.
I'm not gonna move her to Thailand, is what I'm
trying to say. My boy said the horrors are cheap there.
I wouldn't know. Yeah, I've heard that they are though, Yeah,

(02:11:53):
like how cheap were talking about.

Speaker 4 (02:11:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:11:57):
I heard that they're.

Speaker 2 (02:11:59):
Cheap though, But dollar dollar fifty, I would hope not.

Speaker 1 (02:12:03):
That would feel very trafficky. Okay, that would feel That
would feel very very like you're gonna fucking go into
the hotel and then like Liam Neeson is gonna knock
on your door like from taking and fucking kick the
door down and take his daughter.

Speaker 3 (02:12:21):
Back going on. I don't want no problems with that guy.

Speaker 1 (02:12:27):
Man, Jesus, you never you guys never went to Thailand.
When you never been to Thailand, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:12:32):
But it was one of the dudes that used to roll.

Speaker 3 (02:12:34):
I think he was like one of the crew and
he would like fucking brag about Thailand all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:12:40):
Fun yeah, and the food.

Speaker 2 (02:12:41):
He was like living for nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:12:43):
Yeah, it's a good time, good time, beaches, nice fouquets,
nice went to some multi fights. Was crazy tropicals. Fuck
Bangkok's got all kind of malls and ship it's no
good spot about the bugs. I didn't. There's bucks, but
I didn't. Okay, yeah, there's street food, lots of motorbikes,
lots of traffic, though the traffic is in fucking sane. Yes, wow, Yeah,

(02:13:07):
it's pretty bad, pretty fucking crazy. This guy's like, what
I just drove through?

Speaker 4 (02:13:12):
Eli, you sure did?

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
Did you ever like lay some shit down? And then
the label or am or somebody was like, Yo, you
gotta take that out. That's too much, too crazy. I
can't say that.

Speaker 3 (02:13:50):
Yeah, yeah on my album, Yeah, I definitely had that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:54):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
I mentioned the age like fourteen and some shit.

Speaker 1 (02:14:01):
That's fair. Yeah, honestly, thank god, thank god that isn't living.
That's a fair thing to take out. You're like, yeah,
but it's I'm a character.

Speaker 2 (02:14:14):
It's a joke, but they're not laughing.

Speaker 1 (02:14:17):
Have you heard Dave Blunts. Yeah, he's fucking he's kind
of like the melodic bizarre because he'd be saying the
craziest ship but that should be really coming from his
heart though, And it's good. Like I fun with Dave Blunts.
I think it's wildly entertaining. I actually enjoy his music,
lying the way he was saying hard rs and like that,

(02:14:39):
like the F word and ship like it's like, I'm
like Jesus Christy. I think that's where he comes from,
though he's hilarious. It's from Iowa.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
That's that's what I said.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
That's probably yeh. I was a wild place when you

(02:15:18):
guys initially signed. What was like the thought process because
that was night was after Marshall Mathers LP. Are you
guys like already having records like put together playing him
for m or is this like we're all in together?
This is like a cohesive effort because I feel like

(02:15:40):
there were so many members of the group, Like I
can only imagine, like, were you guys pulling from a
bunch of different places for what was going to make
that first album? I don't really remember I was. I
was really this was a heavy drug drug era.

Speaker 2 (02:15:55):
Every drug era for Bizarre.

Speaker 1 (02:15:57):
So they literally like, look, Bizarre, this is the song.
We just need you to come into some crazy shit.

Speaker 3 (02:16:01):
I mean kind of like that, but you know we
could just kind of the kind of went off for
like what beat came on?

Speaker 1 (02:16:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:16:08):
And then like you know, whoever felt to just start
writing to it, Like if you ain't really feel it,
you know what I'm saying, or if it wasn't your
subject matter or whatever, right, you know what I'm saying,
then you will switch it up.

Speaker 1 (02:16:20):
I feel like that's the album where like Eminem really
got in this fucking producer bag too.

Speaker 3 (02:16:24):
Or all all our albums, well we just.

Speaker 1 (02:16:29):
Had two, yeah, I mean two great albums, amazing albums. Yeah.
Was there anybody in the group that was sober? All
of us is sober? Really? Yeah? At a certain that's
not true.

Speaker 2 (02:16:46):
You say sober? That sounded like what the fu?

Speaker 1 (02:16:48):
I just mean like, was there ever anybody who was there, like,
who was the like calmest dude in the group when
you guys were like in like working on Devil's Night,
Was there like somebody who was like kind of was
it the one? Like, what was like the the guy
held everything together when the sessions would get a little crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:17:03):
I think it was all hype. I already thought about
that question you said. I think it was all Yeah,
that must have been fun.

Speaker 1 (02:17:10):
Why could you be that hype and be around like
a guy like doctor Dre or would he be like
because doctor Dre so calm, like, would you guys ever
be like super turned up around Dre.

Speaker 3 (02:17:20):
And he's like, yo, yo, we got a chill d no, no,
I don't say two words of them around.

Speaker 1 (02:17:24):
I just you just sit there.

Speaker 2 (02:17:26):
Yeah, man, just vibe about man.

Speaker 1 (02:17:28):
Like damn, it's a legend. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
It's fucking doctor Dre for sure,
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