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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo Bootleg cap podcast special guests here. His new album
comes out Friday, highly anticipated Body Your Work. I know
you just dropped the EP, but you're coming right back
with the full full length album. Oh yeah, Paesos here,
How you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The worry my boy? How you doing? I'm doing good?
Thank you fast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
No one's doing as good as you because I just
saw the car you pulled up in and all this
damn jewely you got on. Like what's going on? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Man? Just just a young man having his way out here?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, I see that. What would you say, because like
I feel like you're an independent artist and you've done
a really good job of like staying out of the
way of like doing any goofy shit, but also like
building your fan base like brick by brick, and obviously
it's worked out for you. Like what would you say
is like kind of been like your secret sauce since
getting out and kind of picking right back up where
you left off.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Shit really ain't no secret sauce, honestly, just the really
just my people just uplifting me, and shit, that's really
that's really it. And then on top of like the
Mexican community just fully fucking me the blacks and break
the fuck out of me too. So that's been a
very like, you know, amazing thing to be able to accomplish,
(01:07):
you know, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Not for sure, do you feel like because I do
feel like you get a lot of respect that a
lot of artists who are Mexican like really like like
you said, like you get accepted by a lot of
communities within hip hop exactly. That's not easy for you.
Like what do you think it is about you that
like people have just embraced in general, I don't know,
(01:31):
just yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Quiet out the way. Yeah that's crazy too, because it's
like it's kind of crazy because you were locked up
for a couple of years. Right by the time you
get out, like I feel like everything kind of got
all of a sudden. There's all these huge ig pages
that are like kind of dedicated to like Latin hip hop,
and like the space is a lot different, right because
(01:55):
you know, money Sign Swede was cracking before you got out,
you were you're obviously doing your thing, but when you
get out, it's like, I feel like Mexican hip hop
became like a thing where, you know, major labels are
starting to call and trying to sign full.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think like before Sweden, it was just like basically
like mainly like Chikano rap, like.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Right, it was like the first dude that like he
was on Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Came with like the vibe shit and switched it up
and and he tried short line shot the oh yeah
yeah for sure, oh yeah yeah, hell yeah gez. They
they brought it like a different flavor to like this
rap ship. But before that it was just like really
Chekano rap and like like little all heads, long socks,
like you know what I'm saying. Like it wasn't really
like swaggy ship, right, like dressing dressing with the Truths
(02:42):
and the Robins and ship like that, you know, you
mixing it up like Pro Club with Robbins and like
fly Kicks. It was like a new new little flavor
and ship. So it kind of like it was it
was gonna be the hit, hit or miss, you.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Know, the giant shorts with the socks and the Corteses
and the giant test like with the low.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
That's like right there, you know, shout out, shout out
to our roots, man.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Ye shot all those guys their legends for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, we appreciate.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So, like, did you grow up listening to like empty
Magic or anything. Would you play MC magic for your
bitches or anything back in the day.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
No, not really, to be honest, I grew up off
like My Deep and ship shot to my like myb
Deep and shit.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I just spent a serious amount of money on a
My Deep poster. Spent almost three hundred bucks.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's pretty y.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah. I was at this fucking hip hop store in
Phoenix and they had this framed Hell on Earth poster
and uh sh it was fired dog, So it's not here,
it's at the crib. No, it's not here, it's at
the crib. It's fired though. I was like what, I
was like, Yeah, I'll take it shot to trail in Phoenix.
That's crazy. You grew up listening to like some real dope.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Like yeah, yeah Wu Tang my Deep.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Who put you onto that ship?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
My uncle?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So your uncle was like a hip hop Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, he had real hip hop head, like like hip
hop head like crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So he was bumping Wu Tang and my Lot of
New York ship.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Do you feel like that that that ship kind of
had some sort of influence on like your just appreciation
for hip hop in general.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, for sure, for sure, like it for show boosting
my paying game for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I soaked in a lot of game from it. I
like like the like how real it is? Like you
know how it sounds and Ship the ship they saying,
and ship it don't sound like like you know, like
the new Ship.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, it's very raws like you listening to like thirty
six Chambers like Rizard production. It sounds like.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I wanted to say that, but I didn't know how
it was gonna come out, like you know, I didn't
want to say I like it raw, like you know.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Hey man, there's a whole generation to kids who gotta
stop tripping on eating hot. That's not even a weird
thing to say, like, oh dB got a whole song
where somebody likes it raw? Who baby, I like it
wrang Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah no, not just I like like, you know, how
how how like real it is?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Like you know, like you call it dusty nice dusty
hip hop?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, he says ship, like for sure that boom back
the way it hits it in the core and ship.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So you still listen to that ship?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, that's what's up to you listen to the new
Clips album. Mm hmm, that Ship's fire. It's very good,
very checking out. If you appreciate some good, good rap ship,
you will appreciate that. Have you ever? I feel like
it'd be dope to see like link up with someone
like the Alchemist. You know, the Alchemist is the producer Alchemist.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I'm pretty sure I've probably heard his taggers.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
He's he's like legendary l a guy, but he's worked
with like he just did a whole album of Larry
June and two Change. You got a whole album of
Freddie Gibson. I feel like you guys, it would kind
of put him out of his comfort zone and put
you out of your comfort zone a little bit. Some
l A ship for sure. That'll be dope to al Man.
You got a lot of features on this new album.
Talk about why is the album called Finally Fed? Obviously
(05:49):
if you've seen the cover the cover, I loved how
you the rollout because you would unblur someone's face a
little bit at a time.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Finally fat it is basically like like motherfucker being hungry
this whole time, like and I'm finally about to eat,
Like you know, to take this ship to the next level.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
If you're finally about to eat, what do you call
what you've been doing?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Shit starving?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
What does that mean when you motherfucker you how much
was this chain you got on? You're starving and everyone
else is starting.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Different starving though you know I'm not. That's the thing
about me, Like I'm never like satisfied with the fuck
I have. Grateful for sure, but never satisfied, right, you know,
like I always want more and more and more, Like
I'm not gonna be like I want to see everybody
around me like this, you know, everybody like you know,
(06:38):
everybody pulling. I want to see ten may bag trucks
outside right, not one? You feel me?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
What were you able to do the tax right off
with the mayback truck since it weighs over six thousand pounds?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Uh uh yeah, put my account and he better be
on it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
So, so if you buy a truck like that, just
make sure you write it off and buy it as
your business truck.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You know, I spend everything on my business.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I don't every couple of years, I'll just buy a
new heavy car. You know what I'm saying, Like, damn,
I need a tax right off. Let me just buy
a fucking suburban or a cyber truck.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's all you got. The cyber truck.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah fuck yeah, I wrote that bit shot.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah I won't one.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's cool, but your car is a bunch nicer.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah yeah, I like the cyber trick. Don't downplay it.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's no, it's it's cool. It's cool. It's different. It's
like driving around in like a Halo car. It's like
driving around in an idea.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What the fuck?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, that's dope. You'd be in the cyber truck and idea.
It's like that. I'm like, this feels like it shouldn't
exist type shit, you know, and then it drives itself.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh shit, doesn't. And it's bulletproof, and.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It's bulletproof ish ish like a twenty two won't get through.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Nine we'll get through.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think a nine won't get through either.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
What about seven six two?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think that might get through. But if someone just
shot at you with the glock, as long as you're
not in the like they hit the door, you're good.
The bulletproof cars are expensive, Yeah, I know. It's probably
the cheapest bulletproof car ever made. The windows aren't.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Bulletproof, though, so what the is the point that you.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Just dug down. Someone start shooting you. Get down, man,
Just hope that they just hit the door.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Now the windows are just normal windows. Hard to bit
a cyber truck though, because the windows aren't like you've
been bipped. M someone crack the window. Take anything out
of your car, and how the cops bipped you? They
take anything?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, the TV's out the back of the car and
they fucked up the steering wheel.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Damn, that's fucked up. That's crazy. Do you feel like
for you, man, like, you know, is it always something
because I feel like you're in la Man. It feels
like if the cops know who you are, right, No.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Not necessarily if the cops know who you are.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But but I'm saying like, obviously you've been you've been
locked up, like you have a high profile, but you
don't move like a dumb ass. No, But do you
feel like that the tension is on you a lot
more like if you go out doing music video, shoot
some ship.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm not gonna sit here and be like, oh my god.
It's mainly when we be in the neighborhood, right, you know,
we be in the neighborhood and they feel like, oh
the fuck the motherfucker's up to, Like if we're just
doing some regular ship where they know, like we're not
like realistically, like if we fucking somewhere shooting the video,
like around the neighborhood, they're not gonna come and fuck
(09:26):
with us. But if we out and fucking on the
street fifty homies, they for gonna come shut that ship down.
Like what the fuck y'all got going on?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know? But nah, I mean, for the most part,
for the most part, is better when they when they
when they know when they know you, because I get
pulled over, they already know, like, yeah, okay, cool. Unless
I have a warn or something, they're gonna trip and
do all that extra ship. But now, for the most part,
is cool, like they all they all know me, okay, cool,
all right, we're gonna take the car real quick. You're
(09:56):
on parole. Cool, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
My way, keep it going, keep the So you just
obviously you have to be up very on top of
your p's and q's, which I feel like, you know,
I feel like when someone because I feel like you
were kind of like you had this trajectory going and
then you had to go sit down, and it was like,
you know, a lot of people can take that situation
and either learn from it or you're lost in the sauce.
(10:19):
Do a little meditation in there, get your mind right,
or get out. I mean, cause you get you you
were locked up, you're with seventeen fifteen or sixteen, or
you were like young young, So what was it about
like that experience for you that you were able to
like learn from and then instead of you getting out
and continuing to crash out and do stupid shit like
actually kind of like I feel like you leveled up
(10:41):
mentally when you got.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Out, Like what was my turning point? Type?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, like when you were like I can only imagine, bro,
You're sitting in the cell, like, like, what are the
things you're thinking about? Like, yo, you like plotting the
like Yo, if I get another chance and this rap shit.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm definitely I definitely did think about like if I
got another chance, because I didn't know when I was
gonna come home at first, right or I wasn't going
to come home at first, you know, And then a
lot of people helped out and ship you know, got
me the chance to be able to be out on
the streets. Again and ship, But yeah, I definitely did
(11:20):
think about like what what would I do differently if
I came home, like uh, like different plans to you know,
like like like how Park said he's studying everybody's weakness.
I was steading a lot of people's weakness, Like okay,
like you know, if I do come home this, I
gotta do it like this, I gotta do this. I
(11:41):
gotta do that, Like I gotta show, like, you know,
be versatile, like learn different flows, like you got nothing
better to do?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Were you in there writing a lot? Oh hell yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Like crazy every day.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
But like I already stop writing. Man, everybody's doing punch it.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I still write to this day.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I don't punch.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's cool.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But to me, it's like if you're a rapper, like
a rap like melodically, like it's good.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
If you're doing melodies, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But if you're like trying to like really when you're
trying to put them in here, you gotta put.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That ship down, you know what I'm saying. Put some
intent between them line.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So you get out of like how much how much?
How much like dope pads? Were you able to take
all your wraps with you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I got like about like fifteen front and back.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Were you able to like apply any of those raps
to any beats?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I haven't opened them yet. Oh so you haven't even no,
no yet.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You should just do a whole fucking album.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah no, we haven't already ready. But it's just like
a real intimate, like you know what I'm saying. So
it's gonna be some ship.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
That's a dope concept album though, Like Yo, this whole
album I wrote while I was in prison.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, it's gonna be called emotionally unstable.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's fire. Yeah, that's gonna be big man.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Hell yeah, that's the Ghetto Journal. Chapter two I dropped
through when I first got busted. I was busted when
it when it rolled out. Yeah, so yeah, it's gonna
be a chapter two.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Do you feel like you getting locked up kind of
like added to the allure of like you as an artist?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh no, not really, because I was already like they're
out prior to that and everybody already knew that. So
not really, but it definitely did like level me up mentally,
and it made me like realize, like, can't be taking
it like this for granted.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
For sure man, for sure. Yo. You got some pretty
crazy features on this album though, like you, it's damn
near a compilation though. You got to feature on almost
every fucking record.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, almost every record a reason being like from my
whole time, I surfaced or like scratched the you know,
scratched the little board. I never really put on no features,
right I did. Rouchie Hike, I think, yes, Sway put
out a song with us. Rouchie Chike swayed and like Mazi,
(13:42):
I want to say that's it. Don't quote me on it,
but I want to say that shit. I've been out
since twenty twenty. We're in twenty five. That's like five
six years. Wait, no, did I come out twenty twelve
or twenty nineteen, something like that? Five or six years
and I've only put out like three four features.
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Signs swaight on two records.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, ill you.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Like like, have you had those verses from them or
did you have to get them from from those people?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
The one that we recorded Bay Vibes in the Bay.
We went up to the Bay, we went on tour
all up north and we recorded out there. And then
the other one was a tuck like it was tucked away.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
This is some ship that you've had?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah? Is that?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Like I always wonder like if someone like passes away,
it's like harder you have to just talk to his people,
like to make his people my people. You know what
I'm saying. Yeah, like yo, I'm gonna put him on
the album type of ships I heard he's got like
an album coming.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
He has a lot of ship in the cut. Yeah
he not hes gonna He's gonna be dropping music for
a long time for you, Like, uh, nephew just started
rapping too young? Yeah young, No, he's like about my
ajor year older.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Was that something for you? Man? Like sad? You know,
him losing his life could have been something that you
went through. You know what I'm saying behind bars and ship,
Like how did that affect you? Because you know if
it sucked me up?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Bad man overdose a lot after that when I was
locked up over those like five six times after that
on what bullshit. It's embarrassing even talking about it, like
real drugs not really fetano?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Did you know it was fetanal? Like in there do
you guys know?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
It was like hit or but let take this pill.
You might die. Take this pill?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Be high damn. Like so you were just like sad
and you're like, I'm trying to dumb this ship. Fucked up,
fucked up, that's crazy how like did you like get
to the point where you thought you like were gonna
die at any point in time.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, I died like six times.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Promb me backs hospital that kind of ship.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Jesus was like here, like who found it yourself? Mate?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Now it's just like you know, it wasn't just me, Like,
it's just a few other homies, Uh, a few of
the one of the homies passed away risking people.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, did you get hooked to that ship at all? Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah? Low key?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Hell yeah, Well, I feel like what else you're gonna
do in there?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Was walking around like you know, I wasn't. I wasn't
doing the hardcore ship like hair on and you know,
black and ship like that. Like I wasn't doing crazy
ship like that. But yeah, just mainly peels and shipping
lean and ship smoking.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You just get lean in jail, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well not everybody, you know, not everybody can get it.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
They get lean out here nowadays. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah no, but yeah, I was just winding out. So
I was already kind of like like playing like like
passing my time, enjoying my time like before that. But
after sway that I was like, oh no, this ain't
gonna do it, Like damn, I was fucked up.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, imagine, Bro, that's that's crazy. I'm glad you got
on either side of it. Yeah, you've you're you're obviously
clean off all that ship. Now.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, I've been clean even before that, I was clean.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
What's that was that? Was that? Like? Was it those
types like those situations that kind of made you be like, yeah,
I can't do.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
No, I've never been I don't have a I don't
have a like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Don't have that stopping quicken you want.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
To even then, like it doesn't like I don't be
like oh my god, like I want to drink to
have fun, Like I've never being that, Like I don't
have it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I'm glad. You're fucking glad you're here for real, Glad
you made it. Man, what was for you on this album?
You know what I liked about you were obviously working
with the boy, working with Mazi. I think it's important
to kind of like continue to bridge the gap between
like Northern California and Southern California artists because I feel
like there has been like, especially on the Latin side,
(18:24):
there's been like a weird divide. But for you, like
is that important for you to be able to you know,
feed and and tapping with the Bay Area.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, it's definitely dope. But I'm just another pawn on
the board. You know that that that the division is
way bigger than me. You know, I'm just a normal
human being, that's.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Right, Not for sure, for sure? What was your what's
your favorite feature you got on this album? Like when
you heard it, you were.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Like, damn man, so much amazing artists on that. I
can't I can't pig They all dope in they way,
you know, for sure, Majie, he been my favorite, one
of my favorite reppords for a long time. He tapped
in like early on to like his team davel shout
out dab her real one. For sure, they will hear
(19:12):
a real one right there. They will keep me out
the streets for a long time too. Really hell yeah,
when I was on the running ship, like he was like,
man like you need a spy, like coach stay here,
coach they here, like you know, he was like studio like,
he'll keep me in a pseudo like all the fucking time,
like allre you. I'll tell him all like you know, like, oh,
I got a flat all right, I'm about to send
you a black drug.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Was one of the best guys in the game.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
That's my boy right there.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Like I got up working with bad Baby on this album.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's just random as funn She's doing her ship right now.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
No, for sure. She feels like she's gonna beat up
Travis Scott's daughter any day now. Travis Scott, Travis Barker's daughter.
Sorry Scott is crazy Alabama Barker.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Travis Goott is a daughter.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I'm sure he does. Who does? But I was talking
about Travis Barker's daughter. But how the fuck did that happen?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Ship? I think we connected it. We connected it on
social media. She I'm on one of her songs. I
believe with me and Doug. Shout out to Dug, shout
out to Yeah. They She shown me like a song
and ship and then I had a song because I
(20:22):
really don't make music for females and ship, you know,
And I was like I need to step out of
my comfort.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Zone, like yeah, man, bitches like you dog man.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
So finally fed for real, for real.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So so I was like, you know what, I'm gonna
try to make some ship like that, like the girls
could like try to vibe two. I guess I don't
know because it's really out of my comforts on to
make you know, music.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I feel like you got to make some some I
feel like you're the kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Now I got enough time, bro, like I got I'm
growing every day as.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You gotta drop one of them like R and B
records and records.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Now, I'm here for a long time. I'm here for
a long time, so I definitely got.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
For the lovelies as Sam's you know, yeah, the hof bro,
that's crazy. Hey. By the way, yeah, have you been
to Jaguars in Phoenix? I gotta take you Jack.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I've never left l A, brother, You've never left actually,
you know what I'm lying. When I went on to
the Phoenix, we went to AZ and Seattle, damn.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So you've only been there l A in Seattle, in
Vegas to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's the farthest though, But you've never been Texas. You
gotta go to Texas eventually.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
We gotta go kill some pigs with Mexicano.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Tea eventually when it gets cold, though, I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Like, are you are you? Like? Do you have travel
restrictions off are no I have I.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Have no no, No, they're they're very lenient with my
with my line of work. They're very lenient.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Like you got to go to New York. Yeah, you'll
go freeze your ass off. I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I don't fly for I don't like playing dog like.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You've never flown.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I've never flown and I never will.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Wait, you've never taken a flight. We should just go
hop on a fucking spirit flight. Nah, it starts you.
It's just starts you right at the bottom and will
vlog the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, I feel like I'll all freak dude.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
We'll fly to We'll fly the fucking riverside. It'll be
like ten minutes. I actually don't think they have flights
from lay the riverside. That'd be if Yeah, we can
take a flight to Palm Springs.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We can make we can make a flight happen from
here to riverside.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
If someone is drying flying the riverside, they're lazy as fuck,
or they're just I don't know. Yeah, we gotta fly
to Vegas. Yeah, we'll go out there. We'll gamble, it'll
be a good time.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I don't want to fly like I'm really I really
think I'm gonna pass up, but.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You won't die.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I won't see.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You don't know that this is true.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Flights are sucked up right now.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Very like I don't know what it is, just the
whole like not being I'm very like like control my
situation exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Do you drive yourself?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, like mahomie, uh there's you probably heard of the
guy Jelly World, the country singer. This motherfucker is one
of the most famous people on in the United States,
and he refuses to let anyone drive him. This fool
jumps in the front seat of every rental car suburban
and is whipping.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Himself everywhere because it's like it's my fault of something happens, right,
you know, I don't. I don't want to be like
some shit happens and like we gotta hold somebody liable
for you.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You just got to get a good Armenian. You know
what I'm saying. It barely speaks English. Get the Armo drivers.
They got the driver shit on lockout here man, Oh yeah, yeah,
for sure, the Armenians got it. You gotta keep a
good armaniing around.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You in La.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
You gotta keep a good armor, you know what I mean?
They got they they got, they got everything whatever you need.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, shout out to the opice man, Yeah, shout.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Out to the Armenians. Man, damn, that'scho. Yeah. We gotta
get you on a flight. This has to happen. You
gotta go out to like Detroit, shoot the video Babyface
ray or something. Eventually you're gonna have to fly eventually.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, Like if I had like a tour and like
and like, uh, what the fuck do we talk about?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Like if they book you in Warsaw or something.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You know, I've never heard of that. Where's that?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I think it's in Poland don't don't quote me on that. Man, Hey,
you gotta stop the interview. You want to give a
shout out. Man. The only thing we smoke, ladies and
gentlemen is slap woods. That's right. Make sure you follow
them at slap woods. And you know the reason why
we smoked flat woods. It's literally because they slap You
can't smoke a slap woods. What the fuck are you doing?
(24:33):
Get back to you. There's rolling loud in Thailand.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Oh yeah, they're talking about this, So.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
We gotta get you on that fucking stupid young just
did it? Yeah, no, dude, we gotta get you to
Thailand and Bangkok. There that's a fucking it's craz I
haven't even flew ten minutes. They want to give me
on an eighteen hour flight. What the fuck are we
getting my rolling out of Thailand? Hell, it'll be fucking amazing.
There's elephants, there's tigers and lady boys and what what No,
(25:01):
there's fucking like there's if you go to Thailand, there's
this thing called the Walking Street and so like it's
strip clubs and like bars. But then there's like the
bitches in the street aren't bitches, dog, they're dudes. You
gotta go inside where that's where the real women are.
But you'll funk around, you're you're just there's just hella,
(25:21):
fucking dude, bitches everywhere. It's fucking crazy. By the way,
take that out, Please take out dude, bitches. That sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Lady boys, lady boys in there. That's the thing about
lady boys.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yes, yeah, that's a highlight there. It is. No, Thailand's crazy.
There's there's elephants. They got they got fucking komodo dragons
at the park. Dog like eat something. Don't eat your
chihuahua for sure. Yeah. Yeah, fun, You've never been to Mexico,
New Mexico. You did ros, you did papas and beer? No,
(25:55):
I think I talked to you.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
They're fucking was cracking the first one on the run.
I was out there and ship you.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Was on the run in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, yeah, I live damn.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah. Hey, look man, God forbid you ever going to
run again? Yeah, just don't ever go with it because
with this new president, they ain't going You ain't coming
back though, Yeah for real?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well where were you at when you were on the run?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I was first, and then FROMI I went to someone
of those logos, and then from there I went to
I was, and from there I went I've.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Heard of Did you ever Have you ever been to
Port Nueva where they all the lobster by t J?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
No, I've never been there. And then after that I
went to and then to TJ, and then I just
came back.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Have you ever been to Hong Kong?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
No, I've never been there.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, it's in China. I heard that.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, I've heard of it too. We were supposed to
go after after my show and out there and I
just didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, it's a big flight. That's a long flight, all
the way to Hong Kong. Very long flight. I heard.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
It's very amazing and worth it though.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Great Chinese food I've heard.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, you've never been never your wife's never led you.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
No, My Dennis is in Tia, one of those. Yeah,
great dentnis.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Do you visit him often?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I visited my dentist often. You. I got a lot
of work.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Done, a lot of yeah, a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Lots of cleanings. Ok, yeah, yeah, a lot of drainings.
Maybe quite possibly I did have an abscess. They had
to take care of it, you know what I mean? Yeah,
shouts to my dentists. Her name's uh, she has. Her
name is Tanya Cooper and she's a Mexican lady with
that name. She sounds like a nineties talk show host,
(27:34):
Anya fucking Cooper Man, doctor Cooper Man.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Whenever you need a cleaner, extra set of teeth. So
are you or get drinking or get joined?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah? What are we doing over there? Crystal? Anyway? You
you feel like you're like a you're pretty. You got
a lot of Detroit representation on this album. Are you
a big fan of the Detroit. See yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Shout out to the D everybody really coming up out
of there, Doug from the D right yeah, Doug rio pg.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Reels from Flint. But yes, up there, it's like it's
like it's like Riverside.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
In l A. Oh yeah no, that's not the same thing.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
It almost got you, like, yes, the same thing you're
saying that is the same.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Shout out to Flint, shout out to shout out to
everybody over there with that, with that style like as
hard as fuck?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Do you feel like when the so like there was
like this La Rapper list that came out and uh
Game did his own version, and a lot of people
were doing their own versions. When you see lists like that,
not to say you deserve to be on it or
or don't deserve to be on it, but when you
see those kind of lists and you kind of see
the names on there, are you like does that motivate
you to be like, yo, I'm trying to be considered
(28:46):
like one of the best in l A ever or
do you not give a fuck?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Not really?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, okay, as long as you want to list, I
want to list, right.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Were you on the list? Yeah? Which list? Games list? Yeah, okay.
Who was the other list? Was it complex? Complex? Yeah?
Yeah yeah, well at least you made games list. Have
you ever hung out with the game?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah? Hell yeah, that's my boy.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Good guy. Yeah, well bipolar, but a good guy.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I haven't seen Nat Slider him, but great guy.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
He crashed out on me because I said, get Richard
do try and was better than the documentary on a podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And we're gonna click that out.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
He got that. I mean I got a crazy voice
note from him. I'm like, what the fuck the game?
Good guy? Though?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's boy.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
What's your favorite song on the album my album?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, you're I thought he just threw me a fucking curve. Boy,
I said, what's.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Your favorite song on fucking thirty six Chambers? No, what's
your favorite song on your new album? Man?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I don't got one, I really don't.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You have a song called Harry Nuts with baby with
Babyface Ray. So that is an interesting That's just an
interesting title. It's very nineties titles.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's just one of the things where if you know,
you know, like you know.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I don't know, well, very you're you're a hairy guy, nah.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Just you know? Yeah, hm hmm.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
How many times have you been to a rubbin.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Tug Uh, because it's because of the name massage Butler,
I may not I know what that's about. They know
me about my first name.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You got you got your go to?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Oh no, not really, just my question like.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
When you first go to the tuggy, right, are you nervous?
You because you know I've been told, well, I've been
told like I've never gone. Obviously I'm married, so I've
never gotten. But uh, I've been told by my producer Cook.
He goes all the time that when you go in,
you just gotta like when the girl comes back in,
(30:47):
you just gotta be naked so she knows what's up. Like, oh,
I'm gonna jerk this full off.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
It just depends. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Are the massages ever good though, because that's the best
part about it.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Mass bitch as fucked my backup because she didn't know
what she was doing. Yeah, stupid, I'm thinking she really
know what she's doing. It's my first time ever going
to massage. But I genuinely just wanted to massage.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Right, she right there like so she sucked it up.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I turned around like, bitch, like what are you doing?
Like you being so rough for them? Like the fuck.
And then she's like barely understands me and she and
then she just cuts to the point like suck suck,
and I'm just like, what.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Was she older?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
No? Not really?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, I feel like a lot of those Asian ladies
are like, you know, like forty three.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Uh, probably wasn't touching that old.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah. So did she flip you over and do the
do the deed?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Uh? Yeah? Yeah kind of nice.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah. Hey man, the Tugies people got to make a
living out here, man, you know, for real, the at
the end of the day, those those those massage parlors.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I know, when they really know how to rub your back.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I feel like if you said the best, the massage
the best.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, when they really know what the fuck they're doing.
And then they finished off, It's like, yeah, you know
what if I were you divorced, first thing I'm gonna
do is go to a Tuggy because I want to
try it out.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
One though, Yes, Cook ghosts every day. Fuck so he's
a Pokemon car collector, so he was copping Pokemon cars
off this bitch off offer up and found out she
worked out a massage parlay and he never stopped going
ever since they cracked Pokemon cars together. Damn Yo, your
(32:28):
dad's gonna see this every time I talk about him
on the podcast. His dad gives shots of Pops. Shots
to Pops. Your son's out here getting jerk. Fifty five
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salute to them. Let's get back to the interview. You've
been independent thus far throughout your career, right this is
this is this is another independent album for you. Like
(33:33):
I'm assuming like you've had so much momentum. We haven't
even talked about the Kendrick thing, but obviously on gn X,
I mean, you're the hottest in the city. Like, at
what point in time are you? Like, Man, maybe it's
time to start listening to some major labels now right now?
So after this album drops?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
No, no, uh no, I mean yet now, but not
saying that Empire can't do what the major can't.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Do for sure. I mean, Funk Boozy is the most
popular song I think on Billboard ever.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, so shout out to I'm not really I'm really
going I'm really looking for the best opportunity, right, not
necessarily the money or like the likeness of this label.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Right, So for you, it's like more about the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
What could you do for my career that I can
break this? Nah, I don't want to say I'm like,
I don't have the lid on the I wouldn't say that, But.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
You want to get through the ceiling and you feel like, exactly,
we've been in so far, how do you take the
next step?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
It makes sense for you, It's like not because you
know what's gonna happen is like everyone's going to give
you to be a bidding war and you're gonna have
to decide, well, this advance is bigger.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
But we've already been turned down, Like like that's not damn.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
What's the most of you've turned down?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Like five, six or like seven something like that for
a deal? Yeah? Or what was it? It was like
like two three projects just for a for a whole
it was like two or three projects something like that. Damn,
something like I forgot.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Six point five million for two projects you turned.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Down or something like that, six or seven something like that?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
What made you say? Like, nah? What? What wasn't right
about six six and a half million dollars? Doc, I'm
gonna lie? I ain't a lie. I won't do for
six and a half million dollars.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Nah. It's it's just I feel like it's just telling
me like here, I'm gonna give you this money, but okay,
how am I gonna make How you gonna help me
make it back? Though, Yeah, I don't want to be
stuck in no debt and just get shelved if I
have one bad like.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
If the first album don't do what y'all wanted to do,
then I'm gonna be stuck.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
They stopped, they stopped funding you after ship like that
not funding you, but they stopped putting the building behind you,
or they're not motivating no more. For sure they want
to be stuck in one of those situations because with
this music shit, it's like me being independent. This whole
time of shit is a roller coaster.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
For sure, And you got to do everything yourself exactly.
You gotta have a good team. Yeah, you guys are
doing all the heavy lifting. You guys are doing a
lot of the ship.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
That like, it's a lot like a lot of people
think like, oh, like I want to be independent it
that shit is a bitch, bro, you know like that
it's a bitch. But yeah, definitely was like I wanted
to see how they can help me or not necessarily
help me, but I didn't want to just be stuck
(36:37):
with a big ass bag. And then you know, keep
in mind that's the only bag you're gonna touch for
a minute, for a minute, on top of that, like
I wasn't necessarily worried about like not touching the back
is obviously endorsements come yeah, yeah, I was really worried
about that.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
There's other money out there for you to get, but
it's just.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Like being so young with all that money, it was like, bro,
I was gonna run through that fuck it off, not
fuck off everything, because I'm not stupid, like, but you're
gonna if you got I was gonna fuck off a
good amount.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, there was gonna be some radom. There'd be a new.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Chain, definitely, it would have been a few new change yeah.
Like but yeah, so I was just kind of like
not spoke of the situation, but just kind of like
I didn't want to be self if I had a
bad year.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
It happens, man, it happens all the time. Yeah, and
then you end up, you know, having a sour taste,
and it might make you uninspired and you might be like,
fuck this musica, what for you? Like, as an artist,
we always hear like, uh, like the streaming ship is
like one thing, like you know, but there's so many
artists that have like figured out other ways to monetize
their brand besides just whatever streaming and sales. Is there
(37:47):
anything you guys like are doing just to kind of
make sure you're like kind of keeping your fan base
on their toes and like put money in your pocket.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Oh not really, like no merch, No, not really, I'm
gonna drop some merch. I'm doing pretty good food, Like
I can see that I'm doing pretty good. Not saying that,
you know, an extra penny won't hurt, but it's kind
of just I'm focused on one thing. I don't want
to be a jack of all trades right now. I'm
(38:15):
really just focused on one thing, and it's putting out
good music, right you know, That's really what I'm invested
to right now. That's where my mind's at. And yeah,
I'm kind of I missed out on the lot, so
I had to catch up. It's a lot of catching
up I have to do. I'm not really worried about
scraping the money here here, here, here, here, you got
you gotta put some merch out, yeah, not for sure,
(38:35):
for sure, So.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Some fucking you know, paye panties or something, pennies, Like,
I know I ain't got music for y'all, hose, but
I got some panties.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Now, Yeah, I definitely not. We we we do talk
about it, but I'm just really focused on on the
music right now.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yo, walk me through the concept of like how you
ended up kind of landing on doing like a last
step or style album cover because this ship was fire.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
It wasn't, it's not. So it's more like when I
say finally fed, right, like I'm thankful to be eating.
So I kind of went for like a Thanksgiving type
of vibe, King's Table type.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Of vibe, right, So it's kind of not necessarily the
last supper.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, I see the interpolation after, you know, right, but
I kind of went for that. And on top of that,
we're in the trap house. Yeah, we're in the trap and.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Ship and there's a rat on the cover.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
We're just in the trap and we're eating, you know,
like that's kind.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Of no Mexican food on the table though.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, just Thanksgiving shit, you can't even.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Represent for your people. Don't put table Thanksgiving Tomy's.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But yeah, no, it was. It was definitely one of
them like where people just ate too much of what
was put out, like put we gave them this, and
the motherfuckers ate the whole table, and it's like chill.
It was not that deep. It's literally just us.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Who did the painting. Fuck I forget. I don't even
know how to fire.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I don't know how to pronounce his name, but he's crazy.
He's a very good artist.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
You You obviously got some relationships with some L A O.
G's like Greto obviously you know, Uh, Phoenix and and
Uh and Jeez and those guys. What has been like,
Who's who's kind of been like your big homie in
this rap ship man, that's really just kind of like
helped helped you out, gave you some game.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Ship. I wouldn't necessarily call nobody a big homie, but
some of these are gonna help just just somebody. Yeah,
definitely help been a good friend, helping Hash. We can
name him helping Hash. Phoenix was definitely one of them.
He tapped in early on. Mazie was a big one.
He tapped in early on. Who else Gez obviously ship
(40:53):
just really everybody in La embraced me. Shout out to
everybody from the land, Like everybody really embraced me. Shout
out to everybody doing this ship or trying to do
this ship for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah for you, Uh, what was the feature that you
were the most excited that, like, oh ship, Like you
got Tiger on the album, you got fucking Kevin Gates.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
On everybody, everybody on there, and you.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Got crazy Like Kevin Gates is a legend.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah, he's a legend.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
That's not an easy feature to get.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, you're a real one. Shout out to Gates.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Even Tiger, Like Tiger is like a fucking superstar.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Super legend. Hell yeah, they all legends, everybody on that bit.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Were you in the studio with Tiger or did he
send it over?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Sent over?
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah? What was it? Were you in the studio for
any of these features or was it mostly just kind
of like the back and forth?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, man, like back and forth. Me, I and Grido
were in the studio. Shout out the baby face. He's
fucking hard.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Grito is an alien in the studio. That dude just
fucking just man, he could do an album in two hours.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, Me, Me and Rouchie Tigan swayed. We're in the
studio for vibes.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Hold on this. They say you spent You spelled little
Yachti's name wrong on the.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Let him do that.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
That's a little Yachi Yo.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yacht is going crazy. And win a studio together as Dope, Super.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Dope, the Rag and the Leaves on the album and
on the album Doug and Not Clevin Let's go. Yeah,
I mean, listen, we got a massage parlor song and
we got a song that dedicated to not shaving your
pubes on this album. So it's crazy for you. Do
(42:39):
you feel like because obviously you've talked about the Kendrick
Think a million fucking times over and over, but do
you feel like there was because we always like, I
feel like there's the gift in the curse of being
put in that situation where you're on one of the
biggest albums of the last you know, year, ship in
the last decade, and you're probably gonna win a Grammy
for it, because there's no way that album doesn't win
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at least a Grammy.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I believe it's Diamond.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Right, Yeah, but like it's gonna get nominated for every
every single album category you know, these next Grammys, for sure.
But is there like a like the expectations are now
like at a whole new level.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
I mean yes and no, because it's like like yes
and no, Like if that was true, everybody on that
that was up and coming, I have like a fucking
super crazy deal right now.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Right yeah, yeah, I mean I just mean like a
lot of the people who were up and coming on
that project doesn't necessarily maybe have shit lined up for
to take advantage of that situation. But I feel like
for you it just kind of added to like to me,
you've been doing your thing and already so verified that
it just was like more of a stamp.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, hell yeah, shout out to die as opposed to
like I feel like for me, it was more of
a first of all, it was the experience to me
was crazy a lot, you.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Know, for sure, dope hold on yeah, sneeze yeah, fuck
it's fine, sneeze towards cook.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
It was definitely like super dope, opportunity, super dope. Even
if it never came out, it was dope as fuck
to even do it or be in the same room
chop it up, you know, and definitely like another wake
up call, another like you know, motivation, like oh ship,
like this ship is real, I gotta snap the fuck
out of it. Like I was fucking up a little bit,
(44:35):
and then it kind of brought me back like oh shit.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Oh like almost like you're you're kind of like, you know,
fucking up a little and then that opportunity comes you're like, damn,
I gotta get exactly.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah, it was one of them type of you know situations.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Do you even think about like hitting Kendrick to be
like to get on your ship? Nah? Why not?
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I don't know it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
The worst thing that happen is he says no, and
who cares. I rather just you know, you gotta get
Kendrick on one of your records.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, that'll be dope, not for show eventually later on
down the downe the line. But you know, I ain't
thirsty for it, Like.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
No, it's not. Motherfucker's gonna sit back like it's being thirsty.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
I don't. I don't mean thirsty like that, like.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Ain Kendrick I got. But you will know when you
got the one.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Exactly when you got the one, you're like, you think
we got to put that call in? Yeah? No, that's
you know.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Did you were you able to go to the GNX tour? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah? That was a fucking crazy was dope? Did you
go to so far? But you don't leave La, So
it's like I've never been anywhere. We gotta get you
on a plane. We gotta get you to uh somewhere
in we gotta get you out of out of this
time zone. So the whole PST is a wrap you
at least gotta go to fucking Wyoming or Texas or something. Yeah,
(45:49):
you're going to tour soon. I'm I was going to
drive to Texas. See that's stupid. What's inefficient? That's so far?
Fucking Texas is huge, dog, It's just I don't want
to play nah nah listen, man, listen. Uh the album
is coming out Friday, everyone goes support it, shout out.
(46:10):
We got a freestyle coming out. I had him wrap
on Sierra's one two Steps unprepared too, so it was
totally just off the rip. And uh no, I'm just playing.
But anyway, albums coming out Friday, go support it live,
show will being out soon, yep. And uh, anything else
you got going on you want to you want to.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Talk about just the album, man, stay tuned for that.
And yeah, like you said, crazy show coming up, just
gonna get thrown out there, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
For sure, man. And then the next time you do
poppers and beer, let me know, all right, so I
can see my dennist let's do it. Yep, there it
is my guy. Hey so boom,
Yo Bootleg cap podcast special guests here. His new album
comes out Friday, highly anticipated Body Your Work. I know
you just dropped the EP, but you're coming right back
with the full full length album. Oh yeah, Paesos here,
How you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The worry my boy? How you doing? I'm doing good?
Thank you fast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
No one's doing as good as you because I just
saw the car you pulled up in and all this
damn jewely you got on. Like what's going on? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Man? Just just a young man having his way out here?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, I see that. What would you say, because like
I feel like you're an independent artist and you've done
a really good job of like staying out of the
way of like doing any goofy shit, but also like
building your fan base like brick by brick, and obviously
it's worked out for you. Like what would you say
is like kind of been like your secret sauce since
getting out and kind of picking right back up where
you left off.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Shit really ain't no secret sauce, honestly, just the really
just my people just uplifting me, and shit, that's really
that's really it. And then on top of like the
Mexican community just fully fucking me the blacks and break
the fuck out of me too. So that's been a
very like, you know, amazing thing to be able to accomplish,
(01:07):
you know, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Not for sure, do you feel like because I do
feel like you get a lot of respect that a
lot of artists who are Mexican like really like like
you said, like you get accepted by a lot of
communities within hip hop exactly. That's not easy for you.
Like what do you think it is about you that
like people have just embraced in general, I don't know,
(01:31):
just yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Quiet out the way. Yeah that's crazy too, because it's
like it's kind of crazy because you were locked up
for a couple of years. Right by the time you
get out, like I feel like everything kind of got
all of a sudden. There's all these huge ig pages
that are like kind of dedicated to like Latin hip hop,
and like the space is a lot different, right because
(01:55):
you know, money Sign Swede was cracking before you got out,
you were you're obviously doing your thing, but when you
get out, it's like, I feel like Mexican hip hop
became like a thing where, you know, major labels are
starting to call and trying to sign full.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think like before Sweden, it was just like basically
like mainly like Chikano rap, like.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Right, it was like the first dude that like he
was on Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Came with like the vibe shit and switched it up
and and he tried short line shot the oh yeah
yeah for sure, oh yeah yeah, hell yeah gez. They
they brought it like a different flavor to like this
rap ship. But before that it was just like really
Chekano rap and like like little all heads, long socks,
like you know what I'm saying. Like it wasn't really
like swaggy ship, right, like dressing dressing with the Truths
(02:42):
and the Robins and ship like that, you know, you
mixing it up like Pro Club with Robbins and like
fly Kicks. It was like a new new little flavor
and ship. So it kind of like it was it
was gonna be the hit, hit or miss, you.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Know, the giant shorts with the socks and the Corteses
and the giant test like with the low.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
That's like right there, you know, shout out, shout out
to our roots, man.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Ye shot all those guys their legends for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, we appreciate.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So, like, did you grow up listening to like empty
Magic or anything. Would you play MC magic for your
bitches or anything back in the day.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
No, not really, to be honest, I grew up off
like My Deep and ship shot to my like myb
Deep and shit.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I just spent a serious amount of money on a
My Deep poster. Spent almost three hundred bucks.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's pretty y.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah. I was at this fucking hip hop store in
Phoenix and they had this framed Hell on Earth poster
and uh sh it was fired dog, So it's not here,
it's at the crib. No, it's not here, it's at
the crib. It's fired though. I was like what, I
was like, Yeah, I'll take it shot to trail in Phoenix.
That's crazy. You grew up listening to like some real dope.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Like yeah, yeah Wu Tang my Deep.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Who put you onto that ship?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
My uncle?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So your uncle was like a hip hop Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, he had real hip hop head, like like hip
hop head like crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So he was bumping Wu Tang and my Lot of
New York ship.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Do you feel like that that that ship kind of
had some sort of influence on like your just appreciation
for hip hop in general.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, for sure, for sure, like it for show boosting
my paying game for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I soaked in a lot of game from it. I
like like the like how real it is? Like you
know how it sounds and Ship the ship they saying,
and ship it don't sound like like you know, like
the new Ship.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, it's very raws like you listening to like thirty
six Chambers like Rizard production. It sounds like.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I wanted to say that, but I didn't know how
it was gonna come out, like you know, I didn't
want to say I like it raw, like you know.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Hey man, there's a whole generation to kids who gotta
stop tripping on eating hot. That's not even a weird
thing to say, like, oh dB got a whole song
where somebody likes it raw? Who baby, I like it
wrang Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah no, not just I like like, you know, how
how how like real it is?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Like you know, like you call it dusty nice dusty
hip hop?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, he says ship, like for sure that boom back
the way it hits it in the core and ship.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So you still listen to that ship?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, that's what's up to you listen to the new
Clips album. Mm hmm, that Ship's fire. It's very good,
very checking out. If you appreciate some good, good rap ship,
you will appreciate that. Have you ever? I feel like
it'd be dope to see like link up with someone
like the Alchemist. You know, the Alchemist is the producer Alchemist.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I'm pretty sure I've probably heard his taggers.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
He's he's like legendary l a guy, but he's worked
with like he just did a whole album of Larry
June and two Change. You got a whole album of
Freddie Gibson. I feel like you guys, it would kind
of put him out of his comfort zone and put
you out of your comfort zone a little bit. Some
l A ship for sure. That'll be dope to al Man.
You got a lot of features on this new album.
Talk about why is the album called Finally Fed? Obviously
(05:49):
if you've seen the cover the cover, I loved how
you the rollout because you would unblur someone's face a
little bit at a time.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Finally fat it is basically like like motherfucker being hungry
this whole time, like and I'm finally about to eat,
Like you know, to take this ship to the next level.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
If you're finally about to eat, what do you call
what you've been doing?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Shit starving?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
What does that mean when you motherfucker you how much
was this chain you got on? You're starving and everyone
else is starting.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Different starving though you know I'm not. That's the thing
about me, Like I'm never like satisfied with the fuck
I have. Grateful for sure, but never satisfied, right, you know,
like I always want more and more and more, Like
I'm not gonna be like I want to see everybody
around me like this, you know, everybody like you know,
(06:38):
everybody pulling. I want to see ten may bag trucks
outside right, not one? You feel me?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
What were you able to do the tax right off
with the mayback truck since it weighs over six thousand pounds?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Uh uh yeah, put my account and he better be
on it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
So, so if you buy a truck like that, just
make sure you write it off and buy it as
your business truck.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You know, I spend everything on my business.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I don't every couple of years, I'll just buy a
new heavy car. You know what I'm saying, Like, damn,
I need a tax right off. Let me just buy
a fucking suburban or a cyber truck.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's all you got. The cyber truck.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah fuck yeah, I wrote that bit shot.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah I won't one.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's cool, but your car is a bunch nicer.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah yeah, I like the cyber trick. Don't downplay it.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's no, it's it's cool. It's cool. It's different. It's
like driving around in like a Halo car. It's like
driving around in an idea.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What the fuck?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, that's dope. You'd be in the cyber truck and idea.
It's like that. I'm like, this feels like it shouldn't
exist type shit, you know, and then it drives itself.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh shit, doesn't. And it's bulletproof, and.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It's bulletproof ish ish like a twenty two won't get through.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Nine we'll get through.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think a nine won't get through either.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
What about seven six two?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think that might get through. But if someone just
shot at you with the glock, as long as you're
not in the like they hit the door, you're good.
The bulletproof cars are expensive, Yeah, I know. It's probably
the cheapest bulletproof car ever made. The windows aren't.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Bulletproof, though, so what the is the point that you.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Just dug down. Someone start shooting you. Get down, man,
Just hope that they just hit the door.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Now the windows are just normal windows. Hard to bit
a cyber truck though, because the windows aren't like you've
been bipped. M someone crack the window. Take anything out
of your car, and how the cops bipped you? They
take anything?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, the TV's out the back of the car and
they fucked up the steering wheel.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Damn, that's fucked up. That's crazy. Do you feel like
for you, man, like, you know, is it always something
because I feel like you're in la Man. It feels
like if the cops know who you are, right, No.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Not necessarily if the cops know who you are.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But but I'm saying like, obviously you've been you've been
locked up, like you have a high profile, but you
don't move like a dumb ass. No, But do you
feel like that the tension is on you a lot
more like if you go out doing music video, shoot
some ship.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm not gonna sit here and be like, oh my god.
It's mainly when we be in the neighborhood, right, you know,
we be in the neighborhood and they feel like, oh
the fuck the motherfucker's up to, Like if we're just
doing some regular ship where they know, like we're not
like realistically, like if we fucking somewhere shooting the video,
like around the neighborhood, they're not gonna come and fuck
(09:26):
with us. But if we out and fucking on the
street fifty homies, they for gonna come shut that ship down.
Like what the fuck y'all got going on?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know? But nah, I mean, for the most part,
for the most part, is better when they when they
when they know when they know you, because I get
pulled over, they already know, like, yeah, okay, cool. Unless
I have a warn or something, they're gonna trip and
do all that extra ship. But now, for the most part,
is cool, like they all they all know me, okay, cool,
all right, we're gonna take the car real quick. You're
(09:56):
on parole. Cool, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
My way, keep it going, keep the So you just
obviously you have to be up very on top of
your p's and q's, which I feel like, you know,
I feel like when someone because I feel like you
were kind of like you had this trajectory going and
then you had to go sit down, and it was like,
you know, a lot of people can take that situation
and either learn from it or you're lost in the sauce.
(10:19):
Do a little meditation in there, get your mind right,
or get out. I mean, cause you get you you
were locked up, you're with seventeen fifteen or sixteen, or
you were like young young, So what was it about
like that experience for you that you were able to
like learn from and then instead of you getting out
and continuing to crash out and do stupid shit like
actually kind of like I feel like you leveled up
(10:41):
mentally when you got.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Out, Like what was my turning point? Type?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, like when you were like I can only imagine, bro,
You're sitting in the cell, like, like, what are the
things you're thinking about? Like, yo, you like plotting the
like Yo, if I get another chance and this rap shit.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm definitely I definitely did think about like if I
got another chance, because I didn't know when I was
gonna come home at first, right or I wasn't going
to come home at first, you know, And then a
lot of people helped out and ship you know, got
me the chance to be able to be out on
the streets. Again and ship, But yeah, I definitely did
(11:20):
think about like what what would I do differently if
I came home, like uh, like different plans to you know,
like like like how Park said he's studying everybody's weakness.
I was steading a lot of people's weakness, Like okay,
like you know, if I do come home this, I
gotta do it like this, I gotta do this. I
(11:41):
gotta do that, Like I gotta show, like, you know,
be versatile, like learn different flows, like you got nothing
better to do?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Were you in there writing a lot? Oh hell yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Like crazy every day.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
But like I already stop writing. Man, everybody's doing punch it.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I still write to this day.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I don't punch.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's cool.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But to me, it's like if you're a rapper, like
a rap like melodically, like it's good.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
If you're doing melodies, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But if you're like trying to like really when you're
trying to put them in here, you gotta put.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That ship down, you know what I'm saying. Put some
intent between them line.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So you get out of like how much how much?
How much like dope pads? Were you able to take
all your wraps with you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I got like about like fifteen front and back.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Were you able to like apply any of those raps
to any beats?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I haven't opened them yet. Oh so you haven't even no,
no yet.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You should just do a whole fucking album.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah no, we haven't already ready. But it's just like
a real intimate, like you know what I'm saying. So
it's gonna be some ship.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
That's a dope concept album though, Like Yo, this whole
album I wrote while I was in prison.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, it's gonna be called emotionally unstable.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's fire. Yeah, that's gonna be big man.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Hell yeah, that's the Ghetto Journal. Chapter two I dropped
through when I first got busted. I was busted when
it when it rolled out. Yeah, so yeah, it's gonna
be a chapter two.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Do you feel like you getting locked up kind of
like added to the allure of like you as an artist?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh no, not really, because I was already like they're
out prior to that and everybody already knew that. So
not really, but it definitely did like level me up mentally,
and it made me like realize, like, can't be taking
it like this for granted.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
For sure man, for sure. Yo. You got some pretty
crazy features on this album though, like you, it's damn
near a compilation though. You got to feature on almost
every fucking record.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, almost every record a reason being like from my
whole time, I surfaced or like scratched the you know,
scratched the little board. I never really put on no features,
right I did. Rouchie Hike, I think, yes, Sway put
out a song with us. Rouchie Chike swayed and like Mazi,
(13:42):
I want to say that's it. Don't quote me on it,
but I want to say that shit. I've been out
since twenty twenty. We're in twenty five. That's like five
six years. Wait, no, did I come out twenty twelve
or twenty nineteen, something like that? Five or six years
and I've only put out like three four features.
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Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, ill you.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Like like, have you had those verses from them or
did you have to get them from from those people?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
The one that we recorded Bay Vibes in the Bay.
We went up to the Bay, we went on tour
all up north and we recorded out there. And then
the other one was a tuck like it was tucked away.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
This is some ship that you've had?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah? Is that?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Like I always wonder like if someone like passes away,
it's like harder you have to just talk to his people,
like to make his people my people. You know what
I'm saying. Yeah, like yo, I'm gonna put him on
the album type of ships I heard he's got like
an album coming.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
He has a lot of ship in the cut. Yeah
he not hes gonna He's gonna be dropping music for
a long time for you, Like, uh, nephew just started
rapping too young? Yeah young, No, he's like about my
ajor year older.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Was that something for you? Man? Like sad? You know,
him losing his life could have been something that you
went through. You know what I'm saying behind bars and ship,
Like how did that affect you? Because you know if
it sucked me up?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Bad man overdose a lot after that when I was
locked up over those like five six times after that
on what bullshit. It's embarrassing even talking about it, like
real drugs not really fetano?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Did you know it was fetanal? Like in there do
you guys know?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
It was like hit or but let take this pill.
You might die. Take this pill?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Be high damn. Like so you were just like sad
and you're like, I'm trying to dumb this ship. Fucked up,
fucked up, that's crazy how like did you like get
to the point where you thought you like were gonna
die at any point in time.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, I died like six times.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Promb me backs hospital that kind of ship.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Jesus was like here, like who found it yourself? Mate?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Now it's just like you know, it wasn't just me, Like,
it's just a few other homies, Uh, a few of
the one of the homies passed away risking people.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, did you get hooked to that ship at all? Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah? Low key?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Hell yeah, Well, I feel like what else you're gonna
do in there?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Was walking around like you know, I wasn't. I wasn't
doing the hardcore ship like hair on and you know,
black and ship like that. Like I wasn't doing crazy
ship like that. But yeah, just mainly peels and shipping
lean and ship smoking.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You just get lean in jail, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well not everybody, you know, not everybody can get it.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
They get lean out here nowadays. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah no, but yeah, I was just winding out. So
I was already kind of like like playing like like
passing my time, enjoying my time like before that. But
after sway that I was like, oh no, this ain't
gonna do it, Like damn, I was fucked up.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, imagine, Bro, that's that's crazy. I'm glad you got
on either side of it. Yeah, you've you're you're obviously
clean off all that ship. Now.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, I've been clean even before that, I was clean.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
What's that was that? Was that? Like? Was it those
types like those situations that kind of made you be like, yeah,
I can't do.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
No, I've never been I don't have a I don't
have a like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Don't have that stopping quicken you want.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
To even then, like it doesn't like I don't be
like oh my god, like I want to drink to
have fun, Like I've never being that, Like I don't
have it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I'm glad. You're fucking glad you're here for real, Glad
you made it. Man, what was for you on this album?
You know what I liked about you were obviously working
with the boy, working with Mazi. I think it's important
to kind of like continue to bridge the gap between
like Northern California and Southern California artists because I feel
like there has been like, especially on the Latin side,
(18:24):
there's been like a weird divide. But for you, like
is that important for you to be able to you know,
feed and and tapping with the Bay Area.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, it's definitely dope. But I'm just another pawn on
the board. You know that that that the division is
way bigger than me. You know, I'm just a normal
human being, that's.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Right, Not for sure, for sure? What was your what's
your favorite feature you got on this album? Like when
you heard it, you were.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Like, damn man, so much amazing artists on that. I
can't I can't pig They all dope in they way,
you know, for sure, Majie, he been my favorite, one
of my favorite reppords for a long time. He tapped
in like early on to like his team davel shout
out dab her real one. For sure, they will hear
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a real one right there. They will keep me out
the streets for a long time too. Really hell yeah,
when I was on the running ship, like he was like,
man like you need a spy, like coach stay here,
coach they here, like you know, he was like studio like,
he'll keep me in a pseudo like all the fucking time,
like allre you. I'll tell him all like you know, like, oh,
I got a flat all right, I'm about to send
you a black drug.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Was one of the best guys in the game.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
That's my boy right there.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Like I got up working with bad Baby on this album.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's just random as funn She's doing her ship right now.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
No, for sure. She feels like she's gonna beat up
Travis Scott's daughter any day now. Travis Scott, Travis Barker's daughter.
Sorry Scott is crazy Alabama Barker.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Travis Goott is a daughter.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I'm sure he does. Who does? But I was talking
about Travis Barker's daughter. But how the fuck did that happen?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Ship? I think we connected it. We connected it on
social media. She I'm on one of her songs. I
believe with me and Doug. Shout out to Dug, shout
out to Yeah. They She shown me like a song
and ship and then I had a song because I
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really don't make music for females and ship, you know,
And I was like I need to step out of
my comfort.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Zone, like yeah, man, bitches like you dog man.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
So finally fed for real, for real.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So so I was like, you know what, I'm gonna
try to make some ship like that, like the girls
could like try to vibe two. I guess I don't
know because it's really out of my comforts on to
make you know, music.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I feel like you got to make some some I
feel like you're the kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Now I got enough time, bro, like I got I'm
growing every day as.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You gotta drop one of them like R and B
records and records.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Now, I'm here for a long time. I'm here for
a long time, so I definitely got.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
For the lovelies as Sam's you know, yeah, the hof bro,
that's crazy. Hey. By the way, yeah, have you been
to Jaguars in Phoenix? I gotta take you Jack.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I've never left l A, brother, You've never left actually,
you know what I'm lying. When I went on to
the Phoenix, we went to AZ and Seattle, damn.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So you've only been there l A in Seattle, in
Vegas to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's the farthest though, But you've never been Texas. You
gotta go to Texas eventually.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
We gotta go kill some pigs with Mexicano.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Tea eventually when it gets cold, though, I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Like, are you are you? Like? Do you have travel
restrictions off are no I have I.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Have no no, No, they're they're very lenient with my
with my line of work. They're very lenient.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Like you got to go to New York. Yeah, you'll
go freeze your ass off. I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I don't fly for I don't like playing dog like.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You've never flown.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I've never flown and I never will.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Wait, you've never taken a flight. We should just go
hop on a fucking spirit flight. Nah, it starts you.
It's just starts you right at the bottom and will
vlog the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, I feel like I'll all freak dude.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
We'll fly to We'll fly the fucking riverside. It'll be
like ten minutes. I actually don't think they have flights
from lay the riverside. That'd be if Yeah, we can
take a flight to Palm Springs.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We can make we can make a flight happen from
here to riverside.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
If someone is drying flying the riverside, they're lazy as fuck,
or they're just I don't know. Yeah, we gotta fly
to Vegas. Yeah, we'll go out there. We'll gamble, it'll
be a good time.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I don't want to fly like I'm really I really
think I'm gonna pass up, but.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You won't die.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I won't see.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You don't know that this is true.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Flights are sucked up right now.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Very like I don't know what it is, just the
whole like not being I'm very like like control my
situation exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Do you drive yourself?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, like mahomie, uh there's you probably heard of the
guy Jelly World, the country singer. This motherfucker is one
of the most famous people on in the United States,
and he refuses to let anyone drive him. This fool
jumps in the front seat of every rental car suburban
and is whipping.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Himself everywhere because it's like it's my fault of something happens, right,
you know, I don't. I don't want to be like
some shit happens and like we gotta hold somebody liable
for you.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You just got to get a good Armenian. You know
what I'm saying. It barely speaks English. Get the Armo drivers.
They got the driver shit on lockout here man, Oh yeah, yeah,
for sure, the Armenians got it. You gotta keep a
good armaniing around.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You in La.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
You gotta keep a good armor, you know what I mean?
They got they they got, they got everything whatever you need.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, shout out to the opice man, Yeah, shout.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Out to the Armenians. Man, damn, that'scho. Yeah. We gotta
get you on a flight. This has to happen. You
gotta go out to like Detroit, shoot the video Babyface
ray or something. Eventually you're gonna have to fly eventually.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, Like if I had like a tour and like
and like, uh, what the fuck do we talk about?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Like if they book you in Warsaw or something.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You know, I've never heard of that. Where's that?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I think it's in Poland don't don't quote me on that. Man, Hey,
you gotta stop the interview. You want to give a
shout out. Man. The only thing we smoke, ladies and
gentlemen is slap woods. That's right. Make sure you follow
them at slap woods. And you know the reason why
we smoked flat woods. It's literally because they slap You
can't smoke a slap woods. What the fuck are you doing?
(24:33):
Get back to you. There's rolling loud in Thailand.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Oh yeah, they're talking about this, So.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
We gotta get you on that fucking stupid young just
did it? Yeah, no, dude, we gotta get you to
Thailand and Bangkok. There that's a fucking it's craz I
haven't even flew ten minutes. They want to give me
on an eighteen hour flight. What the fuck are we
getting my rolling out of Thailand? Hell, it'll be fucking amazing.
There's elephants, there's tigers and lady boys and what what No,
(25:01):
there's fucking like there's if you go to Thailand, there's
this thing called the Walking Street and so like it's
strip clubs and like bars. But then there's like the
bitches in the street aren't bitches, dog, they're dudes. You
gotta go inside where that's where the real women are.
But you'll funk around, you're you're just there's just hella,
(25:21):
fucking dude, bitches everywhere. It's fucking crazy. By the way,
take that out, Please take out dude, bitches. That sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Lady boys, lady boys in there. That's the thing about
lady boys.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yes, yeah, that's a highlight there. It is. No, Thailand's crazy.
There's there's elephants. They got they got fucking komodo dragons
at the park. Dog like eat something. Don't eat your
chihuahua for sure. Yeah. Yeah, fun, You've never been to Mexico,
New Mexico. You did ros, you did papas and beer? No,
(25:55):
I think I talked to you.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
They're fucking was cracking the first one on the run.
I was out there and ship you.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Was on the run in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, yeah, I live damn.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah. Hey, look man, God forbid you ever going to
run again? Yeah, just don't ever go with it because
with this new president, they ain't going You ain't coming
back though, Yeah for real?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well where were you at when you were on the run?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I was first, and then FROMI I went to someone
of those logos, and then from there I went to
I was, and from there I went I've.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Heard of Did you ever Have you ever been to
Port Nueva where they all the lobster by t J?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
No, I've never been there. And then after that I
went to and then to TJ, and then I just
came back.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Have you ever been to Hong Kong?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
No, I've never been there.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, it's in China. I heard that.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, I've heard of it too. We were supposed to
go after after my show and out there and I
just didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, it's a big flight. That's a long flight, all
the way to Hong Kong. Very long flight. I heard.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
It's very amazing and worth it though.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Great Chinese food I've heard.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, you've never been never your wife's never led you.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
No, My Dennis is in Tia, one of those. Yeah,
great dentnis.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Do you visit him often?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I visited my dentist often. You. I got a lot
of work.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Done, a lot of yeah, a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Lots of cleanings. Ok, yeah, yeah, a lot of drainings.
Maybe quite possibly I did have an abscess. They had
to take care of it, you know what I mean? Yeah,
shouts to my dentists. Her name's uh, she has. Her
name is Tanya Cooper and she's a Mexican lady with
that name. She sounds like a nineties talk show host,
(27:34):
Anya fucking Cooper Man, doctor Cooper Man.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Whenever you need a cleaner, extra set of teeth. So
are you or get drinking or get joined?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah? What are we doing over there? Crystal? Anyway? You
you feel like you're like a you're pretty. You got
a lot of Detroit representation on this album. Are you
a big fan of the Detroit. See yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Shout out to the D everybody really coming up out
of there, Doug from the D right yeah, Doug rio pg.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Reels from Flint. But yes, up there, it's like it's
like it's like Riverside.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
In l A. Oh yeah no, that's not the same thing.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
It almost got you, like, yes, the same thing you're
saying that is the same.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Shout out to Flint, shout out to shout out to
everybody over there with that, with that style like as
hard as fuck?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Do you feel like when the so like there was
like this La Rapper list that came out and uh
Game did his own version, and a lot of people
were doing their own versions. When you see lists like that,
not to say you deserve to be on it or
or don't deserve to be on it, but when you
see those kind of lists and you kind of see
the names on there, are you like does that motivate
you to be like, yo, I'm trying to be considered
(28:46):
like one of the best in l A ever or
do you not give a fuck?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Not really?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, okay, as long as you want to list, I
want to list, right.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Were you on the list? Yeah? Which list? Games list? Yeah, okay.
Who was the other list? Was it complex? Complex? Yeah?
Yeah yeah, well at least you made games list. Have
you ever hung out with the game?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah? Hell yeah, that's my boy.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Good guy. Yeah, well bipolar, but a good guy.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I haven't seen Nat Slider him, but great guy.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
He crashed out on me because I said, get Richard
do try and was better than the documentary on a podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And we're gonna click that out.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
He got that. I mean I got a crazy voice
note from him. I'm like, what the fuck the game?
Good guy? Though?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's boy.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
What's your favorite song on the album my album?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, you're I thought he just threw me a fucking curve. Boy,
I said, what's.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Your favorite song on fucking thirty six Chambers? No, what's
your favorite song on your new album? Man?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I don't got one, I really don't.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You have a song called Harry Nuts with baby with
Babyface Ray. So that is an interesting That's just an
interesting title. It's very nineties titles.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's just one of the things where if you know,
you know, like you know.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I don't know, well, very you're you're a hairy guy, nah.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Just you know? Yeah, hm hmm.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
How many times have you been to a rubbin.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Tug Uh, because it's because of the name massage Butler,
I may not I know what that's about. They know
me about my first name.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You got you got your go to?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Oh no, not really, just my question like.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
When you first go to the tuggy, right, are you nervous?
You because you know I've been told, well, I've been
told like I've never gone. Obviously I'm married, so I've
never gotten. But uh, I've been told by my producer Cook.
He goes all the time that when you go in,
you just gotta like when the girl comes back in,
(30:47):
you just gotta be naked so she knows what's up. Like, oh,
I'm gonna jerk this full off.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
It just depends. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Are the massages ever good though, because that's the best
part about it.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Mass bitch as fucked my backup because she didn't know
what she was doing. Yeah, stupid, I'm thinking she really
know what she's doing. It's my first time ever going
to massage. But I genuinely just wanted to massage.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Right, she right there like so she sucked it up.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I turned around like, bitch, like what are you doing?
Like you being so rough for them? Like the fuck.
And then she's like barely understands me and she and
then she just cuts to the point like suck suck,
and I'm just like, what.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Was she older?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
No? Not really?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, I feel like a lot of those Asian ladies
are like, you know, like forty three.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Uh, probably wasn't touching that old.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah. So did she flip you over and do the
do the deed?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Uh? Yeah? Yeah kind of nice.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah. Hey man, the Tugies people got to make a
living out here, man, you know, for real, the at
the end of the day, those those those massage parlors.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I know, when they really know how to rub your back.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I feel like if you said the best, the massage
the best.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, when they really know what the fuck they're doing.
And then they finished off, It's like, yeah, you know
what if I were you divorced, first thing I'm gonna
do is go to a Tuggy because I want to
try it out.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
One though, Yes, Cook ghosts every day. Fuck so he's
a Pokemon car collector, so he was copping Pokemon cars
off this bitch off offer up and found out she
worked out a massage parlay and he never stopped going
ever since they cracked Pokemon cars together. Damn Yo, your
(32:28):
dad's gonna see this every time I talk about him
on the podcast. His dad gives shots of Pops. Shots
to Pops. Your son's out here getting jerk. Fifty five
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salute to them. Let's get back to the interview. You've
been independent thus far throughout your career, right this is
this is this is another independent album for you. Like
(33:33):
I'm assuming like you've had so much momentum. We haven't
even talked about the Kendrick thing, but obviously on gn X,
I mean, you're the hottest in the city. Like, at
what point in time are you? Like, Man, maybe it's
time to start listening to some major labels now right now?
So after this album drops?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
No, no, uh no, I mean yet now, but not
saying that Empire can't do what the major can't.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Do for sure. I mean, Funk Boozy is the most
popular song I think on Billboard ever.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, so shout out to I'm not really I'm really
going I'm really looking for the best opportunity, right, not
necessarily the money or like the likeness of this label.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Right, So for you, it's like more about the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
What could you do for my career that I can
break this? Nah, I don't want to say I'm like,
I don't have the lid on the I wouldn't say that, But.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
You want to get through the ceiling and you feel like, exactly,
we've been in so far, how do you take the
next step?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
It makes sense for you, It's like not because you
know what's gonna happen is like everyone's going to give
you to be a bidding war and you're gonna have
to decide, well, this advance is bigger.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
But we've already been turned down, Like like that's not damn.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
What's the most of you've turned down?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Like five, six or like seven something like that for
a deal? Yeah? Or what was it? It was like
like two three projects just for a for a whole
it was like two or three projects something like that. Damn,
something like I forgot.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Six point five million for two projects you turned.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Down or something like that, six or seven something like that?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
What made you say? Like, nah? What? What wasn't right
about six six and a half million dollars? Doc, I'm
gonna lie? I ain't a lie. I won't do for
six and a half million dollars.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Nah. It's it's just I feel like it's just telling
me like here, I'm gonna give you this money, but okay,
how am I gonna make How you gonna help me
make it back? Though, Yeah, I don't want to be
stuck in no debt and just get shelved if I
have one bad like.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
If the first album don't do what y'all wanted to do,
then I'm gonna be stuck.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
They stopped, they stopped funding you after ship like that
not funding you, but they stopped putting the building behind you,
or they're not motivating no more. For sure they want
to be stuck in one of those situations because with
this music shit, it's like me being independent. This whole
time of shit is a roller coaster.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
For sure, And you got to do everything yourself exactly.
You gotta have a good team. Yeah, you guys are
doing all the heavy lifting. You guys are doing a
lot of the ship.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
That like, it's a lot like a lot of people
think like, oh, like I want to be independent it
that shit is a bitch, bro, you know like that
it's a bitch. But yeah, definitely was like I wanted
to see how they can help me or not necessarily
help me, but I didn't want to just be stuck
(36:37):
with a big ass bag. And then you know, keep
in mind that's the only bag you're gonna touch for
a minute, for a minute, on top of that, like
I wasn't necessarily worried about like not touching the back
is obviously endorsements come yeah, yeah, I was really worried
about that.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
There's other money out there for you to get, but
it's just.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Like being so young with all that money, it was like, bro,
I was gonna run through that fuck it off, not
fuck off everything, because I'm not stupid, like, but you're
gonna if you got I was gonna fuck off a
good amount.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, there was gonna be some radom. There'd be a new.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Chain, definitely, it would have been a few new change yeah.
Like but yeah, so I was just kind of like
not spoke of the situation, but just kind of like
I didn't want to be self if I had a
bad year.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
It happens, man, it happens all the time. Yeah, and
then you end up, you know, having a sour taste,
and it might make you uninspired and you might be like,
fuck this musica, what for you? Like, as an artist,
we always hear like, uh, like the streaming ship is
like one thing, like you know, but there's so many
artists that have like figured out other ways to monetize
their brand besides just whatever streaming and sales. Is there
(37:47):
anything you guys like are doing just to kind of
make sure you're like kind of keeping your fan base
on their toes and like put money in your pocket.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Oh not really, like no merch, No, not really, I'm
gonna drop some merch. I'm doing pretty good food, Like
I can see that I'm doing pretty good. Not saying that,
you know, an extra penny won't hurt, but it's kind
of just I'm focused on one thing. I don't want
to be a jack of all trades right now. I'm
(38:15):
really just focused on one thing, and it's putting out
good music, right you know, That's really what I'm invested
to right now. That's where my mind's at. And yeah,
I'm kind of I missed out on the lot, so
I had to catch up. It's a lot of catching
up I have to do. I'm not really worried about
scraping the money here here, here, here, here, you got
you gotta put some merch out, yeah, not for sure,
(38:35):
for sure, So.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Some fucking you know, paye panties or something, pennies, Like,
I know I ain't got music for y'all, hose, but
I got some panties.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Now, Yeah, I definitely not. We we we do talk
about it, but I'm just really focused on on the
music right now.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yo, walk me through the concept of like how you
ended up kind of landing on doing like a last
step or style album cover because this ship was fire.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
It wasn't, it's not. So it's more like when I
say finally fed, right, like I'm thankful to be eating.
So I kind of went for like a Thanksgiving type
of vibe, King's Table type.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Of vibe, right, So it's kind of not necessarily the
last supper.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, I see the interpolation after, you know, right, but
I kind of went for that. And on top of that,
we're in the trap house. Yeah, we're in the trap and.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Ship and there's a rat on the cover.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
We're just in the trap and we're eating, you know,
like that's kind.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Of no Mexican food on the table though.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, just Thanksgiving shit, you can't even.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Represent for your people. Don't put table Thanksgiving Tomy's.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But yeah, no, it was. It was definitely one of
them like where people just ate too much of what
was put out, like put we gave them this, and
the motherfuckers ate the whole table, and it's like chill.
It was not that deep. It's literally just us.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Who did the painting. Fuck I forget. I don't even
know how to fire.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I don't know how to pronounce his name, but he's crazy.
He's a very good artist.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
You You obviously got some relationships with some L A O.
G's like Greto obviously you know, Uh, Phoenix and and
Uh and Jeez and those guys. What has been like,
Who's who's kind of been like your big homie in
this rap ship man, that's really just kind of like
helped helped you out, gave you some game.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Ship. I wouldn't necessarily call nobody a big homie, but
some of these are gonna help just just somebody. Yeah,
definitely help been a good friend, helping Hash. We can
name him helping Hash. Phoenix was definitely one of them.
He tapped in early on. Mazie was a big one.
He tapped in early on. Who else Gez obviously ship
(40:53):
just really everybody in La embraced me. Shout out to
everybody from the land, Like everybody really embraced me. Shout
out to everybody doing this ship or trying to do
this ship for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah for you, Uh, what was the feature that you
were the most excited that, like, oh ship, Like you
got Tiger on the album, you got fucking Kevin Gates.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
On everybody, everybody on there, and you.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Got crazy Like Kevin Gates is a legend.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah, he's a legend.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
That's not an easy feature to get.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, you're a real one. Shout out to Gates.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Even Tiger, Like Tiger is like a fucking superstar.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Super legend. Hell yeah, they all legends, everybody on that bit.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Were you in the studio with Tiger or did he
send it over?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Sent over?
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah? What was it? Were you in the studio for
any of these features or was it mostly just kind
of like the back and forth?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, man, like back and forth. Me, I and Grido
were in the studio. Shout out the baby face. He's
fucking hard.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Grito is an alien in the studio. That dude just
fucking just man, he could do an album in two hours.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, Me, Me and Rouchie Tigan swayed. We're in the
studio for vibes.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Hold on this. They say you spent You spelled little
Yachti's name wrong on the.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Let him do that.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
That's a little Yachi Yo.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yacht is going crazy. And win a studio together as Dope, Super.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Dope, the Rag and the Leaves on the album and
on the album Doug and Not Clevin Let's go. Yeah,
I mean, listen, we got a massage parlor song and
we got a song that dedicated to not shaving your
pubes on this album. So it's crazy for you. Do
(42:39):
you feel like because obviously you've talked about the Kendrick
Think a million fucking times over and over, but do
you feel like there was because we always like, I
feel like there's the gift in the curse of being
put in that situation where you're on one of the
biggest albums of the last you know, year, ship in
the last decade, and you're probably gonna win a Grammy
for it, because there's no way that album doesn't win
(43:00):
at least a Grammy.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I believe it's Diamond.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Right, Yeah, but like it's gonna get nominated for every
every single album category you know, these next Grammys, for sure.
But is there like a like the expectations are now
like at a whole new level.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
I mean yes and no, because it's like like yes
and no, Like if that was true, everybody on that
that was up and coming, I have like a fucking
super crazy deal right now.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Right yeah, yeah, I mean I just mean like a
lot of the people who were up and coming on
that project doesn't necessarily maybe have shit lined up for
to take advantage of that situation. But I feel like
for you it just kind of added to like to me,
you've been doing your thing and already so verified that
it just was like more of a stamp.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, hell yeah, shout out to die as opposed to
like I feel like for me, it was more of
a first of all, it was the experience to me
was crazy a lot, you.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Know, for sure, dope hold on yeah, sneeze yeah, fuck
it's fine, sneeze towards cook.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
It was definitely like super dope, opportunity, super dope. Even
if it never came out, it was dope as fuck
to even do it or be in the same room
chop it up, you know, and definitely like another wake
up call, another like you know, motivation, like oh ship,
like this ship is real, I gotta snap the fuck
out of it. Like I was fucking up a little bit,
(44:35):
and then it kind of brought me back like oh shit.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Oh like almost like you're you're kind of like, you know,
fucking up a little and then that opportunity comes you're like, damn,
I gotta get exactly.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah, it was one of them type of you know situations.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Do you even think about like hitting Kendrick to be
like to get on your ship? Nah? Why not?
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I don't know it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
The worst thing that happen is he says no, and
who cares. I rather just you know, you gotta get
Kendrick on one of your records.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, that'll be dope, not for show eventually later on
down the downe the line. But you know, I ain't
thirsty for it, Like.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
No, it's not. Motherfucker's gonna sit back like it's being thirsty.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
I don't. I don't mean thirsty like that, like.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Ain Kendrick I got. But you will know when you
got the one.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Exactly when you got the one, you're like, you think
we got to put that call in? Yeah? No, that's
you know.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Did you were you able to go to the GNX tour? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah? That was a fucking crazy was dope? Did you
go to so far? But you don't leave La, So
it's like I've never been anywhere. We gotta get you
on a plane. We gotta get you to uh somewhere
in we gotta get you out of out of this
time zone. So the whole PST is a wrap you
at least gotta go to fucking Wyoming or Texas or something. Yeah,
(45:49):
you're going to tour soon. I'm I was going to
drive to Texas. See that's stupid. What's inefficient? That's so far?
Fucking Texas is huge, dog, It's just I don't want
to play nah nah listen, man, listen. Uh the album
is coming out Friday, everyone goes support it, shout out.
(46:10):
We got a freestyle coming out. I had him wrap
on Sierra's one two Steps unprepared too, so it was
totally just off the rip. And uh no, I'm just playing.
But anyway, albums coming out Friday, go support it live,
show will being out soon, yep. And uh, anything else
you got going on you want to you want to.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Talk about just the album, man, stay tuned for that.
And yeah, like you said, crazy show coming up, just
gonna get thrown out there, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
For sure, man. And then the next time you do
poppers and beer, let me know, all right, so I
can see my dennist let's do it. Yep, there it
is my guy. Hey so boom,
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