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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Special guests, Bop Kosher welcome. Yeah you uh. First of all,

(00:47):
the best jewelry I've seen on a rapper just tech
deck with the terrifier on it.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
What the fuck is that guy's name? Art the clown?
I just saw Universal Studios just announced, you know they
do Halloween Horne Nights every year. They're gonna have a
like a hundred house around the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I got a slid.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
That's it. What do you think about Part three? Though?
Part three was pretty pretty fucking it was a lot.
I mean they're all a lot. It's just very gory.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I said, Gore for real?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
How much is a tech deck like that?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Run you?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I'm just curious. Let's let's count your pockets for a
little bit. This is thirty thirt.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Thirty. Wow, Trader was twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
So fifty on the neck. And that's without even considering
the that's a serious you know Cuban link you got there?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Is that white gold?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
This is silver?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Good for you? Yeah, that was a good business move.
What's the difference investment? I see you like that. I
like the mismatch. You got gold teeth, silver chain. Yeah, yeah,
you get to cover all bases.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I want to do. I want to do like an
ice style Cuban like rose Gold eventually, but just taking
Emily taking time.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Your new album is out?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
What is that brackish? What is that?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's like the water in Florida where the swamp and
the ocean water mix.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
M I know, what that's like. I lived in Tampa.
Oh yeah, I know that water. I don't know if
that's what it was called. Yeah, brackish water. It's like
a solution. You fanly mm hmm. What part of Florida
you from again.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm from Deerfield.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Deerfield, Deerfield, trapland pat from their eigighthood from there.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Where is that at? Is that up north?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
So it's the it's the most north city, Embrower. Okay,
So it's like it's like, yeah, so Pompino and Boca
Deerfields in between both, but got it. If you're going north,
the last city in brows Deerfield. If you're going south,
the first city in Brower is Defel.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
That makes sense. Yeah, Boca man shouts to Boca.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
The mall, good mall in Boca. Good downtown area.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I feel like if you're like when you're older, as
an older Jewish person, Bocu's the spot dog. Yeah that's
where yo. I feel like that shits lit over there.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's like one of the nicest places in the country,
like low key people to understand, Like everybody from like
New York and that's got money. They always retire there. Yeah, Boca.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, Boca's a nice golf city and like you family, recreational,
good place to raise a jit if you have a ji.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I feel like, Yo, it's crazy too because I feel
like when like, I feel like you are like quietly
like one of the like most like dynamic lyricists in
hip hop right now. But I feel like you don't
get enough credit for it. Appreciate that shit, bro, But
I do feel like you know you're also like I
think most people might think that you're not necessarily like

(03:45):
tuned in, but when you're like hopping on premiere tracks
with Benny and shit, like, what is the I guess
the connection between you being like, yeah, let's work with
DJ Premieer, Like do you grow up listening to that shit?
Does Premo reach out to you? Like, how's that happen?

Speaker 3 (04:00):
He like reached out to me from a complex interview
where I had mentioned them like on people that I
look up to him and Guru like on the first
rap song that I've ever heard was on the Dave
Mirror soundtrack the video game Moment.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Of Truth that is one of the greatest albums of
all time, The Truth the Whole Project is Career. That
song is incredible.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, real shit, that was That song was the first
rap song I ever heard, like ever hearing rap you family,
So like that's what got me into like rap. And
then he he heard the interview and he was like
reaching out talking about like I respect how you doing
this shit for your dead homies, just like how I'm
still trying to do it for Guru so keeping his

(04:42):
name alive. So that was just like the first OG
that reached out to me. I was just telling the
last interview I did this too, like yeah, he really
just like the the first like OG that really like.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Super G and like he's like a lot of people
have him as the greatest pretty of all time. Nine
he's like top three, top four though, and like boombap
as fuck. So would you say that like you grew
up like kind of that, did you? Did you? Because
obviously a lot of your influences like pretty obvious, right,
Like you grew up in Florida. I'm sure you grew

(05:16):
up listening to the Kodak Black, you grew up listening
to certain ship from that from your from your region. Yeah,
I mean that SoundCloud era was crazy. I'm sure when
you're coming up with X and ski Mask, Yeah them too, Denzel,
And but do you also like tap in with like
older ship, like, oh ship, there's this gang star they
got the song on this game. I'm gonna go fuck

(05:38):
with their albums or like what like do you do
you do you kind of dig into any of the
older ship too?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah? Hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Matter of fact, you know, X did a lot of
music with like Joey Badass and sure, yeah, I just
talked to Joey about that. Actually, yeah, I was always
listening to like I mean, even the songs that would
like with like Ski Masks, some kind of X that
those inspire me, like those that to duo you feeling
sure like that Freddie and Jason's on they.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
That shit is crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I feel like ski Mask is one of those slept
on MC's just that dude's a fucking alien.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah he got some real words here words Smith too,
and for.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Real his new record and video that just drops crazy
crazy for sure. Yeah, No, that's dope, yah, because I
feel like I feel like X and ski Masks, like
I just remember like that era of Florida music and
a little bit before them was like Fat Nick and
Pooh Yeah and uh and those guys. But Yeah, Florida

(06:39):
shiit was crazy. Talk to me, man, like what has
been for you? You know, there's I feel like you're
getting a lot of respect, but you're also kind of
like in this like middle place where like people necessarily
maybe they see you and they write you off already,
or maybe they're not giving you the flowers you deserve.
Do you feel like you have a chip on your
shoulder at all when it comes to the rap shit?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
I feel like it's like sometimes it's like a cult
hate base and a cult fan base, so it's like
I can't really like that's never gone away, Like that's
been there since the start, and like at the end
of the day, like that just comes with just like
you feel me.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
You feel like you have a because I know you
have a cult, Like you have like subreddits on wridit
and shit about you, and like you have fans that
like are like super super tapping. Do you feel like
you have a like people who just hate you?

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I mean every rapper gonna deal with that, you feel me,
But like, yeah, that shit just comes with the you
family signed up for that ship coming with the game.
But yeah, I don't I don't really let that ship
like the thing is brou It's like, I don't like
that shit bother me because it's like, realistically, it's just

(07:55):
you feel me. It's just the rap, the rap world,
the politics and the internet, social media, especially nowadays without
all the short form shit.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
You feeling short form shit, it's a problem.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I hate that shit, bro, that s it's a problem forever.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, because it's like now people aren't even like creating
content for like longevity. It's like, yo, this will work
on a real even if it's like the interview space.
I mean even like with the streaming shit. These guys
just fucking what is the ship that they be doing?
The clip forming? They just be clip forming. They're just like, yo,
I'm anna just this is gonna be great. It's a
forty five second clip on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now, I hate that because it takes away from like
the music video shit.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
But I ain't tripping about it.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
But it's like, I know, I low key noticed like
music videos nowadays or just like I don't even know
if people be watching music videos. I'm a huge music
video fan. Like I don't like how like music videos like.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Aren't like you feeling like well, like you know, I'm
sure as an artist is like people can you could
put X amount of dollars into this big production and
shoot a video, but it's probably not gonna do as
well as I if you do like ten little short
pieces of content where you go do the thing where
the MIC's performance, you know what I'm saying, The MIC's
hanging and you know what I'm saying, like that shit,
It just kind of is it. But you're right, Like

(09:10):
right now, I feel like music videos like it's strictly
for the art and like it's like a business card
to your ship. But it's not like the return on
investment if you're spending serious money on videos, it's not there.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, I think it's gonna come back though, music videos
going be you know, come back to being real important again.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I feel like eventually, I hope so.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
And I feel like the important artists are still putting
very like high quality like visuals out because it matters.
It's part it's an extension of the art.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, Like we just can't, like the real true artists
can't stop doing the music videos. Like you could still
promote the fuck out of stuff on the on the internet,
but like and be active on social but you still
gotta put like I still want to see, like all
of us artists like go drop cheese into like a

(09:57):
director and come up with a you feel me storyline
music video with what a treatment and shit like still
gotta do that regardless of what the like is going
on in generation.

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get you a shirt. Let's get back to the interview.
You and a Baby Tron similar cult followings in terms
of people just to preciating how what are your guys's
bars are? Talk about y'all chemistry because he's such a
cool like we hung out with him and the Shooty
Boys in Detroit. Such a nice kid man.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Gee ship Bro. Now he a real legend for real.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
He the song that we did called Irral, that was
like the second song we did, second and third after
we linked from Azotron with lyrical lemonade, and he when
he was in the stew with me, he was like
this time like I'm not fitna rhund with what you say.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
He's like, I'm gonna go first.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
He's like really, He's like no, whipping out your phone,
like only two minutes each and the stood just back
and forth, kept a flowing. That ship pushed my lyrical
like heat in a moment type vernacular like he was
just like you, I'm going first.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's almost like you had like an exercise in the studio.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
He that shit a sports bro. He a real life
lab brad bro. Like on tour when we would do
the collapse tour. That shit probably don't like he probably
done may like three albums on that tour. Bro, shit crazy,
that's fucking wild. Are you what's your process like though?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Are you because like are you are you always recording
or would you let's say you put the album out,
like I'm gonna work the album or you kind of
kick back or you still getting in the lab, Like
what's your process like when it comes to just being
in the studio.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Nowadays, brou I'm recording a lot more like when I
first got like a name and buzz bro, I was
like I was used to just like going in the
stud like just when you pay for studio.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Time, like I'm gona pay for the studio time. Whatever
we do, we're gonna do and then I'm you know.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
And then the rest is just focusing on the video
and ship. So like nah, it's like I'm in the
studio like at least every you family, like every day
or every other day, and like even if I'm not
listening to the beats, I'm writing every bars every day
regardless you're.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Writing ship, Yeah, every day. I always write, like you feel.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Me, I think it's important. So you're not punching in.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I do punch in sometimes, but you're writing that's punching
in is to finish a song, like I don't, I
don't really start, you feel me.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I feel like no one writes anymore, which is why
they suck.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, I'm always writing. Sometimes there's a couple of songs,
like there's a couple of songs off the project that
were punched in fully, but those were just like I
don't rely on that, you feel me.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
It's like the fact you still write it's important because
most artists, man, they're just like, let me fucking just
throw the beat on and I'm a hum and then
we're gonna go. Like, sometimes you gotta have real intention
behind them bars, you know, just like if you're watching
fucking TV or the Summer League or some shit and
like you get inspired to you think of a line, Yeah,
write that ship down. You gotta write, yeah, put it
in your notes.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
When it comes to it's easier to write bars and
lyrics than it is to write flows. You feel me,
like flows come from the punch and shit.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
For sure. The flow is one thing, but it's like
when you think of a funny bar, you think of
a line, You're like, oh, I gotta write that down,
gut that down.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Hell yeah, and writing a whole song too, if you're
trying to stick to a subject that requires like discipline
like sitting alarm and being like, I need to write
songs today one hundred percent, even if they aren't the
most fi like you could you could fix them. But
just like the writing a whole song, like that's important too,

(14:11):
Just like that type of telling yourself like I need
to sit down, actually go on my notes up you
feling right?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
You and a nineteen hundred rugger. I have a song
called dead Cracker from last year. I think people don't
understand that cracker is like a very openly used word
in Florida.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Trope.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, it's like a thing like.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Police or it's just when you white you right.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
But it's a thing that like a lot of like
you know, like I said, I lived in Tampa for
a few years and same P. I actually lived in
the same P. But uh, you hear cracker all the time? Yeah,
to see you two guys put out that song, what
was like, like, I guess that that word it's a
word that I don't think you know, it's it's a
negative connotation because a lot of times when we hear cracker,

(14:55):
we think like, oh, that's a racist ass motherfucker. Like
you know what I'm saying when I hear cracker, like
crack ass cracker, you know what I'm saying. But like, lord,
it feels like it's got its own little thing.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Crackers mean like police, like watch out for the crackers.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
If its plies saying cracker forever.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Dog, Yeah, crack, Like if somebody's smoking in the car
or something you see like a a car that's like
you feel me detect or like it's like a it
could be police, but you don't know because.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
If someone's trying drawing driving a crown Vic.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, it might be like, oh, that's the crackers. Or
if it's like a white man and like he's hanging
out with everybody and like they'll just.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Be like crack like what they do.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Crack like like that's what they That's what I grew
up getting called just because I was like, even JITs
that aren't even white, they could just be a little pale.
They could be Indian people might be like crack. You
feel me like, yeah, crack. Crack could be like crack
up and crack is different like crack might just be
like someone that's like you feel me like Hispanic, they

(15:57):
might they might call him crack. Sometimes there's like even
like Haitians and Zolways that to be like calling each
other crack if they just he femily look different.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Like when you first start like getting into hip hop
and like you get the teeth and all that. What
are your parents saying?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Shit, I ain't gonna lie. They was.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
They was supportive, I know for sure, Like my mom
my biggest fan for real, Yeah, which I fucked with.
She she likes a lot of like to singing songs
though for.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Sure, Yeah, because I feel like, you know, if you
grow up in like a traditional Jewish household, like I'm
assuming like they're not like, yeah you should rap.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, they didn't have a problem. Like my grandma likes
my song called Gravity a lot. That's probably the most
like universal song I have that anybody could fuck with regardless, right,
trying to think of the shit, Like she likes this
song I got called Yoda Cheese on the new album.

(17:00):
She likes the one with Yak too. Actually she likes
the poetry shit for real, that's dope. It's uh for you,
like when you end up working with Kodak Black. Is
that like a dream come true?

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah? Not g shit? Was he like? I mean, were
you guys in the studio together? Was this something you
said to him? Like how that happened?

Speaker 3 (17:20):
It wasn't a stud It was from Mohesi and his
cousin Wally. That was on eighteen hundred block one night,
and like they just told me pull up and then
I think he said he said pull up to the
stew and then I think everybody just got caught up
at the club just like hanging out and everybody got

(17:41):
tired or something. And then the next day he flew
in and then we happened to be in the same
section and then they said pull up to the student tonight.
Like last night got just got kind of got like
everybody was too tired, So just pull up tonight. But
it was his name, him, the real him, He kind
of put it together and his cousin Wally, Wally a

(18:03):
real one and ship the boys.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Are you in the studio when he laid his vocals down.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Nah, So that song I have made, the O G
song I have made. I think it was my songs
good Dude or some shit. Yeah, I have made a
song and then I had an open for him and
then he was like, matter of fact, just hop on
this one. I got some old ship that I fucked with,
Like he's like, just just hop on this one. It

(18:28):
had a different name, but like it was from like
right when he got when Trump partnered him, and he's like,
I got some show, have you.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Hop on the stead? And then he's fresh out.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I did my verse behind like my verse, so I
redid the verse and then they were just watching like
Squiggins to like like five a M type shit. That
show was crazy though.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Did you did you watch the New Squad game? Nah?

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Them boys was deep into it though. I remember that
night Derek the producer made the beat too and with
his friend and ship.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
For you, man, is uh, is there anybody because like
you said, you and you and Tron went on tour together,
But is there anybody do like a like or want
to do a full collab album with? Maybe it's Pat?
Is it Tron? Who?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Pat and trying. We're definitely working on some collab ship,
like a collab tape. That's definitely the worst. Me and
Pat got a lot of a lot of music too,
for real. For some Florida ship did you.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, I mean it's crazy because a lot of people
don't understand. Maybe Trump's dad used to be signed to
ic P Insane clompossibly like his dad is like a Juggalo.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's crazy. Yeah, he cool. I met bro before.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
He cool. O G Detroit rapper. Yeah, what's your favorite
song of the album? Man on the new album Ship.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Back and Black, Probably I like that right when I
heard that beat, I fucked with the heavy, I fucked
with ship the one with Premium and the book for real,
but with that one heavy for real.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Have you ever been intimidated by an MC when you're
getting on a track with him? Oh?

Speaker 3 (20:08):
No, I mean more just kind of like that feeling
of being like you feel me like this ship a
crazy honor, Like I gotta I gotta really make sure
I spas though. You feel me like damn, this ship
legendary is an honor. You feel me like you just
just feel like you're thinking every time you with like
some sort of like like someone that's a big like

(20:31):
you feel me big time rapper. Like if you start
thinking like just so positive that you're just like Dann,
you gotta snap into the You're tapp into that Penman
ship you family, don't like get too excited because.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
You didn't do your verse yet.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
You gotta yeah, but you gotta, you gotta, you gotta deliver. Man,
you do a record with Benning the Butcher on a
Primo beat, like you gotta go crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, I was satisfy with my verse.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
There's like there's a couple little things in the verse
that like prem snapped on because like he basically like
I recorded it. I recorded it, which he's and then
like there was a couple of bars that like I
was like, damn, I want to redo those bars, but

(21:18):
like he snapped because he was able to let me,
like last second redo something and that he he you
feel me?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Then, I mean it's crazy. It's like you've got two
beats from Primo, which is more than.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, legends have real that's what That's what the Butcher
was saying for really.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Is like no, like no one's just getting promo beats. Bro.
Yeah he's on two year albums, So that's that's a
fucking honor.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
He a real life legend, bro. He live and breathing
the music. I was just telling who the DJ who
could his shot like that?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Man? Really, Like.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
It's like uh, just he just live and breathing music
every time I talk to him.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yo, Which who's much shot is it? On the Virginier's
single cover with the girl? Who is that girl?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
That girl was like, probably she's from Tampa.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Actually she like the Hillsborough County mugshot.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
That she's like one of my biggest fans. That My
friend was like, Yo, this girl trying to get She
was holding up a sign at the show that said
some like I don't even want to say it out here,
but like I don't know, I can't even I don't
even remember, but like basically like it was just some
crazy sign. My dog was like, bro, like she she
had died hard, like you gotta tap in with her,
and then like just chopped it up with her a

(22:31):
couple of times, and then like she just told me
a story about some shit that happened, and I was like, damn,
I respect you. I was like, matter of fact, I'm
like I'm a f use that ship. I respect how
you ripped it, so i'ma just use that ship. But like, yeah,
it was.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's pretty tight. She got she got a fucking if
you got some love with her mugshot ship. Na not
a bad looking girl to solid mugshot because Mugshotys. Mugshotys
sent me a box shirts and I was wearing the
shirts and shit, is that an Instagram page or something? Yeah, mugshoties,
I think he andre He just he also like a

(23:07):
real So what do they do? They take mugshots of
like attractive people.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I think I think Mudshoties is just bad bitches mugshots,
bad bitches, mugshots. I like that he just put it
on shirts and sent me a box.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
I was like, damn, you know what's crazy is I'm
sure like that page results in so many random girls
just getting money on their books. Hey, you gotta stop
the interview. You want to give a shout out? Man,
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It's literally because they slap You can't smoke a slap woods.

(23:41):
What the fuck are you doing? Get back to you?
So you never got into drugs too heavy?

Speaker 3 (23:48):
There was like a time where I was dealing with
some really slight shit, but it wasn't It wasn't anything.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
That nothing that you couldn't beat. But you smoke weed.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
I did for a little bit that was separate. I
was just regular skate ratshit. But like, so you're not
like a smoker. No, right now, I literally do absolutely nothing,
Like I'll get a Shirley Temple when.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I go to the smart smart man. Yeah, it's a
smart man for you. Man, Like I wonder you know
obviously you are the I mean, look, Drake is Jewish,
but I feel like you represent your culture like outwardly
in a way that no other artist has, especially that's

(24:28):
had the level of success you had for people who
don't understand, Like there's there's certain like ass like we
recorded we recorded some ship in Brooklyn. I forget the area,
but it was where all the Hasidic Jews were at
in Brooklyn, William Bird, I don't know, but they got
they got that ship on lock Bro. They got their
own police, their own ambulances, all that ship. What what

(24:51):
is like are you, like do you come from a
Hasidic background or what is kind of like your background
when it comes to like your religion.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I want to say it, I fucked with the Hasidics heavy.
I look up to more of them, Like but my
mom would read from to me from the guy named
half the time. He was like I'm pretty sure he
was his sitate, and like she would just call me
every Saturday, even though we not post these electronics we've

(25:19):
we wasn't orthodox at all, but like I just seen
her keep culture and I've seen them do it, and
you feel me see how my parents are keeping koshure
not really anyone else except for them, Like I don't
think their parents was culture, but they just I respect
how they took it upon themselves praying and ship. But

(25:40):
like we wasn't like religious. It'll just be on the holidays,
will pop out.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
To the temple. But like you guys were like because
you know, like like you said, like like you're not
supposed to use cerain electronics Shapa right shabba, and that's
you know, there's like loopholes that they make where they
like how they call people and stuff. So you guys
never got to that point.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, it was more just like what what was like
it wasn't easy to just be religious, but they still,
you feel me ripped it. So I was like, you know,
just kind of second nature, but like I was always
taught things that I was like seeing happen in real
life that correlated to something my mom told me.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
So I'm like I was always just taught important.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Things that actually resonated in how to go about certain situations.
So I was like, damn, I'm gonna embrace the fuck
out of it because it's like this shit really is
what I am for, really for sure?

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, you gotta represent it. Man, do you feel like,
have you seen any I don't want to get into
like the specifics of politics or anything, but have you
have you gotten any like outwardly negative shit just being
Jewish lately? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:51):
You know that I wasn't flagging when I said I
get that threats every day, like stetting mag on every
drake because I get that threats.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
It wasn't the first song. Yeah, now that shit true.
But the thing is like.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I'm sure other rappers get their threats just because they
rappers and shit, like I mean bro rappers in general.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
That it's a dangerous gig, man think being a public
figure in general, and it's like especially in hip hop
because you know all these people's fans. Yeah, I mean
I think about like I think they win, Like you
just never know, man, fans be crashing out some weirdo shit.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
I think right now anywhere, Like even when I was
legit to Like the thing is, people don't realize, like
when people say, like, oh, like antisemitic, anti semitism, this
and that, it's like I never like called nobody, like
I've never used that because like I've never let myself
be the victim, Like like I'm never I don't have

(27:50):
that victimhood life in me, like you feel me.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Right, Yeah, I think, I mean like and I think
at the end of the day, that term is like
it's gotten thrown around to the point where it's almost
like the gift in the curse of using that term
so much recently has made it easier to be anti Semitic. Yeah,
because so much things that aren't anti Semitic being labeled
as that.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Ship you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
People think that I'm like they think that we go
around trying to accuse crag Like, bro, my ancestors was victims.
But I'm not going around trying to like I've been
through real Like I know, real neo Nazis Lake in Florida,
fucking like.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Oh man, Florida's where it's at.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I know, real some REDNA in Florida That's why I
know how to tell the difference, like without saying names
like music industry ship for sure, there's nobody that's like
gonna make me feel threatened like this. So you grew
up in the South, do like I know real Neo nazis.
You feel me right that I've had smoked with like
this music shit is like the Internet.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Ship is like you had smoke with Neo nazis fake?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Like the Internet is fake, bro? You feel me?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Oh, It's a fake place for sure.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
And the thing is people think like I'm like the Internet.
It's like, no, I go on there to drop my music.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Is my career. Like I love my fans, but like
I don't live on the.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Internet beef in with people in the comments because like
I know the difference between real and fate.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
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salute to them. Let's get back to the intervie. Give
me an old head rapper. You want to work with
old heads only? Oh shit, Hopson about to do a
song about skating. You would hit me about Hopson?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Your interview with.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Him, right, Hobson's my boy man, good guy.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
He uh makes some shit with him about skating for real?
Not five feet bro for real? That she'll be legend.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Are you really good at skating?

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Ship?

Speaker 3 (30:27):
When I was younger, that's what I was doing for real.
Because there's some rappers that could get down. Hopson is
probably the best. Uh, but you know who's like slept
on this. Rich the Kid can skate his fucking asshole.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
He could skate for real. He good as a bit.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, like Wayne's Wayne. But I feel like Rich the
Kid and Hobson are like the two guys that like,
I don't know if they're up there. Man, you wouldn't
think about but Rich the Kid could get down.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, they were trying to set up a game of
skate with Rich the Kid. I think we're gonna rip
it eventually.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Crazy. Have you ever been to the Tampa skate Park?
Mm hmm that places.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Fire absolutely Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I went there for Tampa Am for real, Like I
ain't make it, but ship my, that was probably the
best shit I ever did with my Tampa A run
and I ain't get in. I don't think so you're
trying to compete. I was.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I was set. I think I was seventeen, Like, oh, so.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
You're like fucking getting down for if you're trying to
go compete at the Tampa AM shit.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
I was trying to do Tampa AM. I had a
good run. That was probably the best shit I ever
did with my run. Like I got an.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Archive on ig.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
But do you have like footage of all that?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, I got, I got. I think I got the
clip of the Tampa Am run that I was trying
to put.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
That should be crap. You should put that in a video.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Ship that's big. My friend Ring was feeling that shit.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I remember that shit in the good old Eboor City.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Man, go try to like the TMS.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
They'll be real like my bad. They'll be like drunk.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
And like my dog would go try to like talk
to them while they drunk to get sponsored and ship
that's smart. They'll be like go to bricks eboard and
try to talk to them about the Yeah, and all
them boys will go do that.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I'll stay back.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Eboard is a movie. Shout out to Ebor City, Man,
one of my favorite places in the world. They have
wild chickens running around at night.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Ship bro, that place is crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Last time I went to Ebord City, I did my
show at Janice Live. Bro.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, Janis is a that's in that's in s Pete.
But that's a great great venue. I was.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I was sliding the Ebor will and that ship got
like popped out. Bro. It was a big mass shooting.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Oh the shooting you were there that night.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I was supposed.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I was like after my show, if you were in
town when that happened, I.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Was like pulling into Eboring and I called my dog,
I't be and he was like, don't even pull up, bro, Bro.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
That shooting fucked up a lot of ship in Tampa
because that kind of like it ruined like the night
life in Eboard City for like a year.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
You know who a real start coming out Tampa's Flow
Bay Flogo coming out of the artist car.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I got to tap in.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, he's hard.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I got a lot of homies, like the O G's
in Tampa, but like uh Tom G and Christall and
then like there's there's some great guys in Tampa. But yeah,
obviously Rod waves from Saint Pete. Yeah, Doci's from Tampa.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Legendary, she got a Grammy. She the freaking queen.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
You know what's dope about Doci is she did her
solo tour when she went to Tampa. She didn't do
Jannis Live, she didn't do she did the Crowbar in
Ebor City, which is like one hundred and seventy five capacity.
That is like a legendary Tampa venue. And I was
like she's doing the crow bar, she's really damn what
the fuck? Like I saw fucking ritz and crooked eye there, Like,

(33:37):
what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Like?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
That's crazy? Yeah. Would you ever like I feel like
you have like a you're very smart when it comes
to your bars and you're writing, and you also are
pretty funny. Would you ever want to get into like
any other any other aspects of the entertainment game, whether
it's like TV or acting or writing other shows or.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Voice like voice like voice and ship voice acting for
like a cartoon. I'll be down to do some ship
like that, for like a lick car like water. Yeah,
some ship gotta be fire for like if they ever
do Period of Platypus again, the Platypus, that'd be dope. Man.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
So are you are you going to be doing another tour?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Oh yeah, we're about to do Europe for the first time.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Where are you going in Europe?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I could check right now.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Actually, let me see how many dates is it off?
But it was like, I think it's like.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Seven and eight shows.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
It to be quick.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
It's like, I know, for so poland the UK, Berlin
had to be crazy Berlin from the field crazy though
the Spies in Berlin.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
I heard Berlin is like low key, like one of
the funnest cities to partying. Yeah, what about Amsterdam? I
feel you got to go to Amsterdam.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I think we got that.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
It's just it's like, you know what you should try
to do. You should try to get because you've done
rolling loud before. Get on rolling about Thailand. Go to Thailand.
That ship is crazy. They got elephants and ship monkeys
and shit tigers and ship and lady boys and it's crazy.
It's fucking crazy that hard. I was out there last

(35:14):
year with Wiz and we was We was all over
that brotherfucking country. Tyler is the best country I've been to.
That ship is a movie out there.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Well, that should be.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Have you ever been to Israel?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I've never been. They telling me the slide.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
I feel like you should go, man, I mean maybe
not now. I don't know. I don't know, if you know,
once the temperament cools down with whatever's going on with
the I think the Iran shits kind of chilled out,
but I think you should. Yeah, you gotta go, man, Yeah,
go do a show out there one day for real.
I think that'd be big.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Well, look, your album is out right now. People could
go support it, and uh, I'm sure you're gonna be
you know you got merchant all that too.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Hell yeah, we're about to do a show in Miami.
I'm excited about Oh in Miami. When is it the
seventeen July seven.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'm sure you're gonna have some special guests.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, hell yeah, bringing a couple of special.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Guests maybe nineteen hundred yeah, yeah, g ship maybe maybe
Baby trying it takes the flight from the d that Yeah,
hopefully you and Baby trying to get that fucking joint
project together.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, that shit gonna be crazy though, one hundred percent
got to do that.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Ship. Well, look, man, I appreciate you pulling up. Go
get the new album, man, go support it. You guys
gonna be droping any vinyls or anything.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Uh shit, we should think you got to, man everybody.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
That's how fans want to support because they want to
buy their music, but they also want to collect some ship.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, sh ship, no, we need to do it. I
feel like the merch. We about to do some some
cool merchs for.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Sure, right So yeah, yeah, I appreciate you pulling up.
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