#588 - Conway The Machine on Griselda’s Future, New Music Hiatus, Health Update, KD & The Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the interview. All right, man, Bootleg keV Podcast special guests
in here. It's been a couple of years. My brother

(00:44):
Conway the machine. What's up? What's up? What's up? This
is I don't know. I think this is like appearance
number four on the Podyah welcome, tis welcome. I think
the last time we did like a real sit down
was in well obviously we hung out in Denver, but
I want to say it might have been we were
in Buffalo and we got news of DMX passing in

(01:06):
the middle of our interview.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, that might have been the last time we which
was a couple of day, Yeah, which was this crazy day.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Man. What's been going on? Man? We were talking last
night and I know this is like the longest gap
between albums we've had from you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Man, I've just been, you know, quietly working behind the scenes,
you know what I mean, putting it together, putting that
wave together. Man, we want to drop the album real, real, sorely. Uh,
you can't kill God with bullets.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's this. It's just this. This one of the ones
right here.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I ain't gonna lie this one of them, This one
of them ships.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Do you feel like, uh, because you are known to
I feel like always kind of have something on the
way or being working on something, do you feel like
this is the first time you're able to kind of
like breathe a little and take your time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, this it is man, It is it is. I
wasn't in no rush, and I ain't really wasn't under
no pressure, you know what I'm saying. And none of that,
and I was I'm kind of kind of glad I
took a little time to just chill a little bit,
you know what I'm saying, and just work and take
my time and you know, meticulously, you know what I mean,

(02:18):
put put it together.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
So do you feel like this is?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Because I feel like you've had kind of God is
like an underlying theme of a lot of your albums,
like obviously from a King to a God, God don't
make mistakes, et cetera. It's just kind of like, would
you say the linea like a lineage of those projects.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, you can say that. You can say that, Yeah,
you can say that.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's that, It's that, It's that feel. Man, this this,
this project feels good.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm gonna let you hear. I'm gonna make sure before.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I leave, I'll leave with it, please you, for you
to you know what I'm saying, pair witness what it
just got that feel? Man, it feel good. It feel different.
I know what you're saying, like far as like with
the titles and all that long long and so yeah,
I'm gonna answer that. Yeah, but it just feel different.
It's nothing like you know what I'm saying, Nothing like
I've done what is in a sense if that makes sense,

(03:18):
because it's that classic, that feel, that that that the
fans miss.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I'm assuming Darrender's goot production.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Darren got the joint on there, the joint on there.
Any alchemist alchemists got a joint on there?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, yeah, hit Boy, No no head boyd Boy, Damn
shout out my dog head.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Boys that record because he did the Day's record, right,
Yeah did that? Yeah? What about because of what they
were a couple of weeks away from the release? Man,
I mean, are you how future heavy is this? No? None? Really,
I ain't got no features on here.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I got about like eighteen tracks, eighteen nineteen songs or
something like that, But I don't really got no features
on there. I got rock Marciano on there. I got
I got on Kendricks.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
The artist I'm working with, you know what I'm saying.
We were doing this drum work ship together, and uh ship,
that's really it?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
What what is? Uh? Obviously Jay Skis is still drum
work the drum work album. You guys finally put the
drum work album out? Was it last year? Was it
the year before? No?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I got matter of fact, I just thought about something.
I think I got something something on the on the way,
something that's in motion though, like a guess appearance of
catastrophic proportions for this album and if that comes through
after finish, yeah after yeah, yeah it could.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
It have been anything uh related last night? No, okay,
I don't know, because I saw you with.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
God say, I see it the way your mind working, Well,
that's something else is growing with that. But yeah, this
one right here, this is gonna I'll tell you. I'll
tell you off interview. But if I get this, everybody
could who would drop albums this year pretty much could
say good night.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay yeah, Steph Curry, Steph Curry drank. Yeah. When you're
on there, I mean you've also I mean I feel
like you have been active on feature. Your feature on
the Ray album is super dope. Oh yeah, thank you man.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah yeah, I did that verst a minute ago. Though,
you know what I mean, I ain't gonna lie. People
love that fucking verse. I love verse too, but I
don't know. I guess that's the MC I mean around here.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
That's what I'm like.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Damn, man, I wish I could have you know what
I mean I did that should a minute ago, I
could have did something right now.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know you have that issue because I feel like
a lot of artists will have like I guess you
would call it demo itis. But if you hear, if
you hear something that's old, just because it's old, you
automatically are like now, but I'm better.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, because you're always improving because exactly exactly, and like
you might be talking about some ship that's probably not
as relevant any more, you know what I'm saying. I
was in a different space. That's not out back. I mean,
that's not hot, no more club. He was out of signing,
like you you know what I mean. So I run

(06:11):
into that a lot because you know, I do a
lot of like sports reference in my bar traded, right,
I went through that a lot. I had a couple
of lines where I had to like take them ships
off the verse because nigga got traded.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
When's the time that happened when someone got traded and
you were like, damn, we gotta change that line.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Damn I think it was. But I didn't even get
a chance to change the line. Uh course, what I'm saying.
Corsided in Portland, Carmelo Anthony Back and some ship.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
But why the time that ship came out, he was
on to two other teams right then. Yeah, I forgot.
Mellow was on the Blazers for like a second and
then he went to the was it the Lakers next? Damn?
Mellow's career was wild because like you'll never see those
jerseys and it was disrespecting that nigga. Man, I'm saying, like,

(07:03):
imagine you go like like in twenty years you go
to the Vince's jersey shop and they got a fucking
I want them to Lakers Mellow jersey. You be like
I forgot about this one one that Lakers Blazers ship. Okay,
see Mellow Okay, See Mellow was solid though. Yeah, yeah,
he solid all them getting eighteen yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Off the bench, So it was a key he was man,
But it was that was disrespectful to Melock like career.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Doing it with Brody A crazy Ones.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's like when you that type of player like that,
like I had the piss kind of like I don't
know man's tolerance. It seemed like in the NBA like
they they kind of way to find a way to
bump you up out of there collectively.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, no. I feel like when we think about some
of the random jerseys, like Rashid Wallace was on the
Hawks for like he got traded there, I'm not sure
he really played. I remember they had Rottman on the
Mavericks like for like thirty days. Tracy McGrady on the
Nick Yeah, what the fuck he was? He was with
the Spurs. Got a ring too with the Spurs team

(08:07):
Ac on the Spurs ray Ana. That's that shot ray
Anna took on the Heat I think because that's when
they played, they died. That's when they died. They uh
with with the Miami Heat game. What's the latest with
with with drum work in terms of the roster. I
know we talked a little bit about it last night,
but I know Jays still down as everybody else's dealers

(08:28):
kind of ran out. What's the crew looking like? No,
the crew crew looking good? Man? You feel me.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
We ain't really you know, everybody it wasn't really signed
to me, you feel me.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
They was just like, you know, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Just just watching just watching it and getting you know,
courtse I see, like just getting getting a real hands
on Paul's lesson, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
And with what. You know, we'll do some business when
that time comes.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
But in the meantime, just you know, pipe up, man,
get your ship off, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
So a lot of a lot of.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
The homies that you see be seeing around and I
be fucking would it really be a thing like that?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Like I ain't in it on that type shit.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
But like you know, Jay Skis, you know that's been
the one constant for the entire drum work Ship since
day one. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And we're
working with Kendricks now. We're working on Kendricks and my
brother Goose right away, we're working on his ship. You
know what I'm saying. His album actually done. We about

(09:31):
to drop that. You know, we'll be making that announcement
soon in the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Fire. Yeah, how is your your health? Man? My health?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh man, ship, let me let me fuck it up
some morow no, man, my health all right. Man, I'm
very I've been in the gym going crazy good. I've
been writing on this movie, you know what I'm saying.
I've been working on this some other content ideas and ship.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
You're writing a movie, Yeah, I'm writing a little short movie.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Like a I want to say, like a like an
eighties nineties slasher flick.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Oh ship, like what.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Kind of like a horror comedy in it too or whatever,
like a horror movie. Yeah, I just want to do
something ship. Yeah, I just wanted to do no, not
screamed more like on some like the ship Rob Zombie
be doing.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Oh yeah, like a house ship like that. That was Rejects,
one of my favorites ever. That movie is fucking that
last scene when they could play the goddamn Leonard skinnerd
and they're in the car fucking shoot ship like that.
You know what I'm saying. But it wasn't funny. There
was funny parts of them exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
So I'm all some ship like that, Like I want
to do something different than just like you know, the
typical you know stories that you know, they selling drugs,
shootouts and you know what I mean, all that ship,
the Hood story like the Hood movie that.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, I didn't want to do with that because you
want to do something whenever you want.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, I want to do something kind of trying to
ill something.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Shit Snoop Dogg came out swinging in bones. You remember
when you.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
See what I'm saying he was like that that was brilliant.
That was brilliant.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
By the way, I think this is the first time
anyone's ever called Bones brilliant.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
But the idea, yeah, it was probably royally executed, it
was It was still a good movie. That was a
brilliant idea, the idea of the thought of it, the vision,
the fact.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
He was kind of like the candy man.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
And you know what I'm saying, that ship was ill because,
like I said, we could have went the router like
we're trying to make another you know what i mean,
belly something like that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, everybody,
you're gonna get one hundred. Though every time a rabbits
say doing a movie, that's what I already kind of anticipate.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, the predictable thing would be you be like, yeah,
you know, just telling the story about Buffalo on the
East Side. Yeah, well yeah, eventually that'll probably come. But
it's like, off rip, It's like that's expected.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I want to do something gonna see coming. And I'm
still entertaining too, you know what I mean, everybody could
fuck with like everybody like those old.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Moved I know, I do you know what I'm saying, oh,
for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
You know I'm I'm a little older, so I remember
them days of popping that DVD and I'm bull leg DVD.

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back to the interview. I want to know your thoughts
because it's been such a great, uh last few months
of hip hop, like just from like being a man.
What are your thoughts like when you when you heard
the Clips album, did you fuck with it? I fuck

(14:04):
with it? I fuck with it? I think you know.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
That's the way they got that magic with par Real man.
You know what I'm saying that that cohesion is just
it's different.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
You know, of course push on there going crazy, but Malice,
you know, Malice, No Malice, shout out to the clips
man that was blacking out though, you know, Crazy, I'm
with you though, Like I feel like that's that's the
best album of the year so far to me that
I heard.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
And then Malice, I'm with you. Malice on the Jig album.
You gotta listen to that all the way through. I
heard like a little bit of it. Yeah, gun Kicks album.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
On the short on the short, Yeah, I heard. I
heard the first couple of ships. But I gotta hear.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's funny because they were saying, like I saw someone tweet. Uh.
This person's opinion was that the two best rap albums
of the year so far have the word got in
the titles, like God Him sort them out? And then
God Loves, Like is that what it's called? God Loves?
Is that the name of that called? Then you got
God in your title? You know what I'm saying. I

(15:10):
like it. Top three. You can't kill God with bullets? Yeah,
do you? I remember like we would have these conversations
and I felt like it used to, like, uh, really
fucking piss you off when you wouldn't make certain lists
or you wouldn't like when when we would have those
conversations about who's the best them? See it really like

(15:32):
you have like you always had a chip on your
shoulder about that ship like a beat out drops a
list or whoever drops a list, Like that's some ship
that like you really care about because you really take
this ship series to another level, Like is that something
that you still are like super like like when you're creating,
is that like does that kind of shit still motivate you? Yes?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yes, I use a type of ship for fuel, So
well yeah, that ship, dude, like that should be I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Like I say, like I said before, like I say.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Man, shit, you think you think you know what I mean?
Nigga in the league and trying to make it be
all Star you know what I'm saying, make it the
Pro Bowl, be a the MVP, like I want to
be on the you know what I'm saying, the you know,
the all all all NBA first team ship like that,
Like that's what we played this game for.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
That's what we're in it for, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's what we do it for to be recognized for that,
for that skill set. But I'm not I don't get
this bothered and you know, upset about it as much
anymore because I paved a lot of that A lot
of times that ship is for you know what I mean,
Like outrage generates views, and views generates that check. So

(16:48):
I feel like with everybody lists and people got that
Duty's list, they they putting in their personal you know,
it's subjective.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
They like what they like, you know what I'm saying.
So I don't know. When I think about that, I'll
be like, I know what it is like, you.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Know they put you know, and I don't say no
names or nothing, but like, yeah, they put that person
in there over over over me, you know what I'm saying,
Or over Little Wayne really high, Like every year little
ain't got a no album, I'm like, what the fuck
are we doing?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
And then he'll like refer to like one verse. I'm like, dog, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Shout out to beat out Like I've been feeling like
sometimes they throw somebody on there that that's just they
know for a fact ain't the top.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Ten rapper, but it like shakesap people.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Fuck that on top tend rapper man and it shakes
ship up and we got a million comments.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Man, no, this ship gets shared, tweeted.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
A bunch of times and chang chain the register, ringing
you know what I mean, I'm the viral Google look
up or whatever that makes sense that makes me that
that's like, you know what, the fuck of my truck?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I can't beat that in that right? You know what
I mean? And people don't think you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
That's his opinion for your opinion, whoever you're doing shit
opinion if you ain't got me in.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
The top ten we were talking last night about but.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
The niggas in the top ten got me in the
top five, So for sure I still win in the end.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
We're talking about last night about you were like, Yo,
do you think people still give a fuck about Posse
Cuts because you had the surf and turf record on
the last project with all the all the la guys apps, ol,
TF was it? Jay Worthy was on there in two eleven.
Who's your If you could put together, if you could
like let's say fantasy draft, let's say you're putting the

(18:34):
price picks lineup together, You're fucking en Posse Cut. You're
on it. And who else?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Damn mm I want to hear a trant. Who are
doing to beat? Who doing to beat?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I'm gonna say, let's go out alchemists beat. Let's go
alchemists beat. I would want with me.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I would want him to I know somewhere, somehow one
of his old computers or hard drives. It got a
long lost Prodigy verse. Throw p on there, Throw coolgie
wrap on that because I wrote a million raps to that,
the relationship you heard in your life? You know what
I mean of off murder music. I wrote so many.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Raps of that beat I would throw.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I would throw that man mace, old school mace, Yeah,
murder mace.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I would throw. I would throw that nigga, that nigga.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Icewear on there, Yeah, okay, yeah, I would throw icewear
on there. I would throw icewear on there. I would
throw herbal on there. Got gotta have kiss on there,
stepping on ship for the culture, you know what I mean?
One more, one more, one more joint.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
You know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna lie. I
ain't gonna lie. I need a raw ass verse out
of Foxy one time. I like that.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, like a Foxy Brown just so they gotta be
that Foxy off like the album Yeah I need that ship.
Yeah that broke the sounds crazy ship gotta be crazy,
bro imagine that.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I was just like I was just listening to the
Broken Silence maybe three or four weeks ago, and I
was just like, damn, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I got a record with g rap too, spinning a
g rap on rage on Reject three fire Legend.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
But like Foxy was like, I don't know, she just
like stopped giving a fuck.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I don't know, man, I never met Foxy.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I feel like we forget about like when we talk
about like.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I want to say, maybe it was just like sometimes man,
you know it's some same some stuff like this hip
hop is rap game business man is it don't be
his priority a top priority in some people life and
artist life, Like I do it because I want to,
you know what I mean, So you know, start having
families and.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
All that ship.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Manucker probably just be like I'm chilling right now, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
But yeah, would love.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Their Foxy Oh like that old school Foxy on an
Alchemist beat.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Crazy will be crazy shout having a run right now. Yeah,
I'm surprised you. I feel like you guys should do
like a whole fucking well, you guys did do a
whole about to do an album. I just saw they
did a ranking of like the top Alchemist collab projects,
and I think Lulu was like two cool. I think
it was complex. Did it.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Get that ship right? You can't name another I'm just
fucking around.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
He's got so many though.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, I'm surprised I can name nigga he did with
Body World School.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I'm saying the ship I did with School on the ship. Yeah,
I'm gonna lose it. Yeah that was crazy. I was crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, we're doing another album. We're doing the whole album.
We already is already in motion. We we we We're
doing it. He just on it on the road, you know,
he with Erica Erica Bado on the road. He's doing
his own ship. He about to hit the role with
Primo like Alchemists done. Turned into the busiest man the show,
but insane.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Primo got like where they're gonna go do like the back,
like the back to back. Yeah, he was like, man,
He's like he was telling me. He's like he's like, man,
some cities I already know I'm just like, I'm gonna
get washed by Primo. He's like, it's not like we're battling.
He's like, but you know, it's like we're going back
back and forth, and like Primo is a different type
of DJ. It's different type man. Like Primos cutting and

(22:50):
doing all the motherfucking tricks and ships the the guy
of the cutting. For sure, you show me. Yeah, I
could definitely catch one of them shows. That's gonna be.
I gotta go to one of them shows. Is there
anybody who you because I feel like you always talk.
I mean, obviously you and jay Z have been on
a song together, but uh, outside of hope, because this

(23:13):
is always a topic about you never asking for it,
Like you haven't asked for the jay Z verse. But
what is that other feature that for whatever reason has
just never happened. It's just it's there, It's just never
for whatever reason, like it's just escaped.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Probably probably I just never never did a song with Nas.
I think Na's probably the only person I haven't got
a song with. I do I got songs with that.
I got a song with Big Daddy Kane, lost the
Ray Kwon Ghost. Everybody can think of a name except nas.
I feel like that's the final piece to my legs.
Like you, man, I was blacked on some shit one time,

(23:57):
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, I even think I feel like you and Kendrick
would be crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Kendrick too. I never did nothing with Kendrick. Absolutely, I'm
glad you yo, that's the fact. I would love to
do something with Kendrick Man.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I would love to just be in a lab with him. Man,
you know what I'm saying. And just even if I'm
just a fly on the wall for one of the
sessions with Corals sessions, I'm just just peeping me, but
I feel like we was on one of them, Like maybe,
like you said, them our joints or something crazy like that,
that'll be crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
When you look back at your discography, what do you
think is your best album? And let's not say the
new one because that's a fucking cheating you know, this
new one coming out? Yeah, we get it.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Let's just say this new one because I love Let's
just say this new one doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Okay, it doesn't exist?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Oh cheat man, Uh, I'm gonna probably say I'm probably
saying God don't make mistakes.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Really, Yeah, I love that album. Yeah, the Beanie Records.
So the fact you got Beanie you see Beanies using
AI to bring his voice back, came to a god
to a guy. For me, that I think that's a
perfect I think that's a perfect. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
That was my most perfect and complete album I ever made.
But it might be I feel like this, you know
what I'm saying. I feel like this. I feel like
I feel like the God don't make mistakes is like my.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Like my it was.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Written that makes sense for King to a godless like
my Illmatic, you know what I mean. So that's what
the man. You know, some people say it was written,
was not album. Some people say ill madic ill Matic
was better. They still two of the Illis albums ever,
one of them is the illess album ever. But it's like,
you know, for me, that's my it's like I battle

(25:53):
with that, like King to what God was crazy? Man,
I got Reject too up there because that's the one
that set this whole, all this ship off and change
my life and everybody lies. Man, the God has got
us where we you know, we was in position and
this ship for real solidified.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
So I put Reject two.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Up there, you know, what I mean heavy, but from
being just a lot of choose one that's probably I
say that's the best I might gotta say. Man, that's
a toss up, bro, I think I got them make
mistakes and from Kingdom of God is probably neck and neck.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
They're close, They're definitely close. You and like you and
Jit have had like a few joints. I feel like
the ballot record obviously scatterbrain scotter bring gold. Yet I
feel like it should be should be gold.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
But we need to look up through numbers. Man, let's
figure that out, Chad, I should be gold. Man, Man,
that's gonna do well for my for my my legacy.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
You gotta you gotta put something on that wall. Man, Yeah,
that would be your first plastn't.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Be the only thing that niggas. Now, niggas, what they
can say? Now you know what I'm saying, for sure?
What can what can they say?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Now? I caught the plaques? I come, what show did
you perform that on? It was a scattering was yep,
Jimmy fallone big deal. I forgot I did that. I
did it was on fallon twice sixty eight million. It

(27:20):
was like a gold plaque to me, tell Gouzi to
get that bitch certified. Come on, Gosi, get me right,
get me right. Thank you Guzi too, you already know Man.
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(27:41):
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(28:26):
Follow him on Instagram at slap woods. Let's get back
to the podcast. There's been like I want to know
your take on just kind of you know where what
is the status between the guys, because you know, I
know you spoke on it on Angelou's things. You Benny
and Gun obviously you guys are family forever, but it

(28:46):
feels like, you know, the last three or four years,
everyone's kind of gone their own ways. You know what
I'm saying. Gun's killing it with his fourth rope shit,
and he's still putting out like five albums a year. BSF,
you had drum work?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Is it like at this point when y'all get together,
is it just when it comes to like time to
get it back, like all right, we gotta go do
a show. Like are y'all like still talking on a
regular basis, like we're talking talk. Yeah, it definitely feels like, uh,

(29:21):
you guys still are working together, Like I feel like
at least two or three times a year, you guys
are on joints together. So in some capacity, would there
ever be another Grisela album. You think we only got
like one of those shit, I'm down, you know, man, No,

(29:43):
I'm sure that will be. I feel like if you
guys did one and you incorporated like Stove God Roam,
Stove on Fire, out the fire going great and no
fucking new album. Man, it's the mo.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's stove on fire and now wrong, wrong, heating up too, wrong, wrong,
doing this ship too.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, the Roma Conductor albums Fire, I think that should
have been dope.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I'm you know what I'm saying, Like it ain't really
you know, even like when when when he was asking me,
was like, no, I was just joking around and shipping
there with shit fucking around, But like that ship.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Really ain't about nothing. Ain't nothing really happened. Nothing happened,
I ain't know nothing going on. Man, It's pretty much
like what you said.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Like, you know, everybody, man, niggas is just as old
as hell and grown now you feel me and niggas
do what they do.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
They're gonna do their own everybody's doing their own thing,
you know, every while y'all get together do the show.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
I was I was, you know, I was an artist signs.
I did a deal out of the business deal.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
The deal's done, as you said, though West owns the land.
But you did do the construction, sir Man, Yeah, I
gotta pay that, you know. And Benny hung up the lights,
you know. You know what I'm saying. He put the
fixtures in. He did like he laid the pipes. You
know what I'm saying. But now I just you know,
I just feel like, you know, obviously, you guys are

(31:11):
the last great crew in hip hop. So it's always
good when you guys do to know it's gonna be playing,
it's gonna be more.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Man, we don't woke niggas up now, you know what
I'm saying. What Griselda and I came through and did
and we've been we've we've gifted the world with you know,
some inspiration and motivation and collectively, you know what I mean,
getting that bag and collaborate and you know, do something
special with your with your guys, you know what I'm saying,
With your team, Like I felt like that was something

(31:38):
else that was lost in the sauce, Like everybody just
wanted to man, just be the individual, the biggest act.
But you know what I'm saying, So I don't feel
like we would be the last you know what I'm saying.
I'm sure people were saying that about locks or wool
or whatever, like it's the last of the you know
what I mean, outcast, it's the last of the gross
and damn we come out of nowhere ten years later,

(31:59):
you know what I'm saying, and become you know, everybody's,
you know, one of everybody.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
That's why I feel like what the clips thing obviously
get their brothers and like they stopped doing stuff together
for other reasons. Like now it's kind of just nobody
batter the eye. But if you think about it, like
if you guys did a grosela that album like eight
years from now or something, I don't know, motherfuckers would
just be like it would be crazy. Man. It's a
it's a play.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
It's a play that you know that's been discussed and
all that. Like it's you know what I mean, I
ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
You know, if it was up to me, we would
have been dropped and been done. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I ain't saying that in a way, you know what
I'm saying, No negative way, nothing, nobody's blocking it or
nobody nowhere ship like that. I'm just saying, like, you know,
people ask me a lot, and like, you know, I'm
not like I'm against it now. I ain't against that ship,
you know what I'm saying. I think the streets would
love that.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I mean, we did get Hall in Nash too. We
do the tour. Hall of Nash Too was great with al.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, we recorded a lot of that ship before before
we even did what was se gun do. We recorded
a lot of us ship in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen to.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
The Hall of as two ship. A lot of that
was that old. Yeah, a lot of that ship, you
know what I mean. We didn't We went to our
house one day recorded that ship in like a day.
We went to that nigga creb bro. We recorded seven
eight songs. So what was it like? Hey guys, song
do you guys remember ours? Got like eight songs of
ours that are just sitting there. Should we we should
just like let's put these fucking out. Let's other people here.
You know what. For me, I ain't gonna lie. I

(33:27):
wasn't even.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I don't even know I'd be so out the loot
with ship, my nigga. I ain't even for me, I
fhond out, like I got the phone cause I forgot
all about them ships. I forgot all about them songs.
And then our hit like yo, shit about about about
len about to let this fly? Like he already had
to play already, I'm about to let this fly. I'm like, oh, world,

(33:50):
let's go.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah shit. It was an easy call for me. It's
crazy because I was talking with al a few weeks
ago when we were talking about how he's kind of
this like run he's on with how he's dropping music
and then doing the vinyls, and he gave it up
to y'all. He was like, well, like you know, Griselda
like really kicked this whole ship off. He was like, essentially,

(34:11):
like when it came to like super monetizing the body
of work, yeah, through like physical media, Like you guys
really kind of I feel like, kicked off the renaissance
of people like going out and trying to get the
limit edition vinyls, like different variants, yeah, and all that shit,
and now everybody's doing it. Yeah. I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I think I think what it was was, I mean
everybody was doing the vinyls and ship and having not
a part of the what they call that ship like
they they you know what I mean, they merched or whatever.
But I think, you know, the way we hustled it
and it show like it was some money. I think
we woke the woke niggas up, Like, Yo, there's some
money in the vinyl game, you know what I'm saying,

(34:56):
Like it's some good money in the fucking with the vinyls.
Realizing like it's a whole world. It's a whole underworld
of collectors worldwide. Dog. That's like dog, most knowledgeable dudes
on this earth when it comes to this hip hop shit.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
They're the ones there, Like, to me, I look at
that shit like.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
A motherfucker preserving you know, artifacts throughout history like they
keeping the hip hop.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
They preserving hip hop, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
The show shout out to all the collectors and the
diggers and the you know what I mean, guys like
Alchemists and Derrengers and and all of that shit.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Man, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I didn't know that collector that vinyl collecting shit was
such a proper.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
A big deal. Like people. It's like people want to
support you outside of streaming if they fuck with you.
But it's like you got to give them. It's like
when people drop albums and they ain't got merch to
go with it, or they ain't got the physicals.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I'm like, man, but no, what I'm saying is I
see me. I ain't even know like the difference. I'm
thinking that shit was gonna be out the window when
like you know, it's it's strange, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Like that's the old school way.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
That's like people collecting that ship and they want to
hear the album in that vinyl quality, Like that ship
is a big deal to them.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
You drop their ship to scratch it, or it's a
dent in the in the fucking sleeve. Crazy. They ready
to choke their mama over that vinyl. Some of the
vinyls be going on eBay for like you feel me.
That's what I'm trying to say, same amounts of money,
That's what.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I'm trying to say, Homie, I ain't know that world
even existed until they did.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Do you keep like one or two of each? I do?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I got, I got, I got a couple of copies
of all my ship I think somewhere, I just don't
know where I put them. I get stoned and forget
what I did my ship in my store somewhere.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
But hell yeah, I'm looking on eBay right now. We
got to reject to white Vinyl rare for two hundred dollars.
This much is the rich Og reject too. I don't
know what I'm I'm looking at the fifty round drum
mixtape for a buck fifty, you know what I'm saying.
Mixtape and let me get that, let me get that

(37:03):
smoke for sure. The Lulu Vinyl picture disc new and sealed,
nineteen out of a thousand for three hundred dollars on
eBay right now. Mhmm. Yeah, fuck, it's funny those most
recent ship. You gotta pull up the old ship. That's
what I'm trying to scroll. Black Tape Vinyl LP test
Press two fifty, my goat album. I'm trying to see.

(37:27):
I'm trying to let me see if I could just
sort it. I want to see what the most expensive
one is. That's sort of by price fly price or
the Hitler h h W H two highest price, Damn
signed Conray, the Machine, vinyls more steroids and Everybody is Food.
Both of those together are one thy, eight hundred and

(37:48):
fifty dollars. Uh, you and Gun. That's me selling that.
Y'all caught me. Everybody is food, the limited, the five
hundred vinyls, five hundred, the first haul in Nash a fifty.
It's like worst comes the worst. You could just like

(38:08):
sell your own vinyl on eBay. You know, if this
ship don't work out and you just end up in
this like expensive hoodie, let's see, let's see. I'm just no,
they resell the hoodies and ship to the clothes. I'll
trust me.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I know which one of the probably the fly guy
or to reject, the first reject already.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
All right, so the most expensive hoodie right now is
three eighty five. It is the Donkey Scared Now hoodie
Dead's stock sized medium. Then you got the uh, you
got the reject champion with your face right here, fifty
two hundred. Yeah, damn. One of the hoodies I got

(38:46):
is going from one to fifty. Okay, it's what you
and Gun on the bike. I got that, I got
that one, and I got yeah, I got a bunch
of these. I got the I got the I got
the lemon one with the Woo Tang Tang. I got
that one. I was very rare. I got hella bro
one time chat show caps and ship he about to

(39:07):
go down? Chat right now, I have the navy drum work.
I got the all kinds of ship. And then that
time I went to Buffalo and I went to the
fucking Griselda store with the Buffalo Kids Gallery. God damn,
that was when we did that interview, right yeah, is
that ship still open?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
That was gone mad at the you know, I think
somebody did that vandalize the store or some ship.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Like Buffalo. We get to get to hating sometime, not me.
I remember we went to a steakhouse in Buffalo and
it was the worst service we ever had in my life.
It was like a fresh steakhouse. The food was good,
but I remember we literally were waiting for food for
like two hours with you. Where we went, where we go?
We was there all fun?

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Were you there?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Chat? Oh my god? Worse sir. If it's if it closed?
I know why, I know why fucking close? No. It
took so fucking Rick left and got subway and came back.
Oh yeah, I was Rick, where'd you go? He's like
this got subway.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I'm like, wait, you got someway and we're waiting.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
For Brock flying man, my apologies.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Where did what's the wingspot? We went to?

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (40:26):
It was like one old white lady who looked like
she smelled Marlboro's Kelly's Corner, Kelly's Corner. Now that's that
that I liked it. That didn't you? It was good.
I liked it because the lady who took our order
also made the food and also served this liquor. Shout
out to that broad holding on a whole bar, whole ship. Hey,

(40:47):
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for this album. Man, like are you? Are you like?

(41:10):
Fully just engage? Right? Is this is gonna be last
album and the your wee get from You're gonna just
keep reatting back to old Conway Pacer, I mean.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I want to, I got I got Reject three man,
that clip pretty much loaded to the top. I'm just
doing some last minute little tweaking on that, getting that right.
And I wanted to drop I wanted to drop it
on like on Halloween. Gotta be crazy because it's the
ten year anniversary since I dropped Reject too.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Excuse me, gotta be crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
So I wanted to drop that ship then, and we're
doing like we're already doing like an anniversary concert for
it in New York City and in Buffaloe in Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
So I wanted to have an album and shit to
go with this and merge all that shit. I'm gonna
take it so long with this, with the Can't Kill
God with bullet shit man, that it's like I'm looking
at the timetable, like you know.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
What I mean. I mean that's two months away, right,
So it's like, but if you were to do it,
do it on the ten year anniversary, got sol got
So if it's already done, yeah, then do the box
Then you're going to do the box set with all
of them, that'd be crazy, Yeah, and Reject on steroids
in there too. What is something you learned because you

(42:25):
went through like two years in a row. You guys
did drum work fests and throwing concerts is the biggest
pain in the ass ever, especially throwing a festival. What
are the things that like the lessons you learned from
going through that process? Don't do it. It's a pain
in the ass, permit.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, it's a tough process, and especially when you're doing
it somewhere like you know, that's like your hometown, your
home city.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Everybody wants to get in.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, you give away about five hundred free vip is
and ship, you give away pretty much all the money
he was gonna make, and fucking free tickets and passes
and and just don't nobody know how to do nothing anymore.
We're a part where I'm at the door, what door
I'll get in? What I do, and it just would
come ahead of everybody want to perform, Oh man, you

(43:17):
know anybody, I gotta just let the whole city come perform,
you know what I'm saying, Which I don't mind because
I want, you know what I mean, ship, I respect,
there's only so much time, But that'd be the part,
you know what I mean, It's not much you only
can do. It's like and it's a lot man like
you said the permits and the safety element, Like you

(43:40):
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Were they profitable? It was profitable. It's probable. Yeah, your
too is Gucci might getting a right Gucci Jadakiss came through.
Oh yeah, no, they're good. I'm still doing but I'm
just figuring out a fresh idea, like I want to
maybe like would you do it on the.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Road, That's what I was saying, maybe taking on the
road to sign or overseas.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Overseas I feel like, you know what I'm saying, and
do like different country, like what you were in Europe?
Right where were you in your first second? That wasn't
just in Europe? And then South America before that. It's
crazy because it's like the I remember the the scale
of how crazy is the show gets when it's y'all

(44:30):
three together. Where was that? What's that that venue out
here that they did a few years ago, Novo, No, No, No,
bigger after Novo, the goddamn with the that ship that's
got the crazy like hot dressing rooms that's been there
since the god damn forties. Fuck, what's the name of
that big ass venue? It was like huge? Oh here, yeah,

(44:59):
fucking see if I'll tell you no, for it's like
it's by usc all right, that's when I brought some
Marrison over there to meet you. I don't remember the
I think I do remember that ship. It was like
upstairs the shrine, right, the shrine, right, isn't that it?

(45:22):
I think I remember that ship. Yeah, that ship was.
It's like fucking five thousand people in there. Yeah, yeah,
that was. What do you think is your biggest market
outside of the States, Like if you had to go
to like is it London? Is a Paris? Is it Amsterdam? Oh?
That's that's tough. That's tough. H ship. I don't know.

(45:44):
I can only well, I haven't been to Japan. I
have been in Africa yet, Russia yet. You gotta go
to Asia, bro, I haven't been Asia. You ain't been
there like Thailand. No, I ain't been in Asia yet.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I'm gonna say, you know, I'm gonna say probably out
there in Greece like Europe pretty doingly good, like Italy, Greece,
South America, it's crazy, like Brazil or Columbia.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I didn't do.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Brazil, but I did Santiago, Chile, I did Columbia, I
did Argentina.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I did Nigga. Unbelievable, you know what I mean. I
shot the I shot the video for seventeen five out
there Bogota.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, Jesus had a homie little souper in there, A
big big artists down from down there.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
They say, the women in Columbia are just insane, like
you could just fall on like a dime listen. Working
at the fucking McDonald's. It's like, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Are you going to be hitting the road after this
ALM comes out? Oh? Yeah, I'm getting on that road.
I live on the road, man. You know, I'm the
greatest show on Earth right now, you know what I man?
So I'm I was.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I was working on the tour right now for the
end of the year, like around November December. Oh you know,
hopefully I'm be doing it with you know, somebody. I
was putting that together, you know what I mean. That's
that's what I was discussing, you know what I mean
last night at the Joint. But we're working on the

(47:21):
tour for that ship. Yeah, like November, how crazy? Was Like?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
What did you learn about like? Because I feel like
I got to see you once when you were in
the wheelchair. But there's got to be like a whole.
You got to really be able to captivate a crowd
to be able to pull that off, to like be
down with that injury and still have a crowd in
your hands.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Man's fan love man us fan love Man. That's that's
you know, when people feel you and fuck with you,
you know.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
They with you. You know what I mean, they with
you through it all.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I'm you can name all the greats, you know what
I mean, from our day listen, growing up, listening to
hip hop.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Before when we was just probably on our way to
school or on a bus, or on a way to
work or something. It's the artist that you know what
I mean, you felt something, got something from them, man,
you know what I mean. And I think that's what
why people kind of love me, you know what I mean.
If I have to sit back and think about it,
it's like I'm I'm just a genuine, transparent, humble, talented dude.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
You know what I'm saying that.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I ain't really trying to punchline you to death, you
know what I mean, and all that shit, or just
wrap about one particular thing, Wrap about this that like
I'm trying to you know, I'm painting my picture, my story.
I'm giving you something that pain like shit you could feel,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
But I feel like that's always That's what I'm saying.
I think that's why people love me. Man. I'm telling
that to Ghost. I'm like, oh, she one of the
most vulnerable rappers of all time. Like there's certain verses
that make you like ghosts, like the verse impossible Dog,
but like your verse on the Cows, Like, yeah, fucking
you know with that ghost face. But it's one of
I'm saying, it's one of them. Yeah, it's one of them, exactly.

(49:18):
That's crazy that you That's all I know. That's what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
You're very knowledgeable and student of this hip hop sh
because that's probably one of the greatest best compliments I've
ever got from that cow verse, because that's what.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I think it is. It's in that vein, It's in
that vein that uh the impossible.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Although forever album m there's too called the Jamie. That's
one of the greatest verses of mank history.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
So good and it's so crazy too because it came
been kind of unexpected. Is that record, everybody was just
kind of getting their ship off and then ghost comes
on and just takes it, just drops Elvis versus all
time on that bit crazy. Who's your favorite? Who's your
favorite ghost Face Tank member? If you had to say,
like your favorite, my favorite, You've worked with fucking so

(50:07):
many at this point, I mean, like my favorite. I
ain't gonna lie m Man, I hate because I can't
just pick one, but it's just like not now.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I'm like Math mathove Man for Math Mathem, Mathematic, but
I equally love the Rizza.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I mean, the architect, the fucking one of the greatest
producers of all time, and Bobby Digital that first one.
I'm the same. Math Math was my my favorite. You
know what about what's your favorite? What do you think
is the best non Wu Tang clan solo Like, what's
the best solo album from a Wu Tang member.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
From a Wool Tang member? Yeah, mm hmm, I'm gonna
have to go Purple Tape. That's probably was struggling with

(51:04):
it between is a toss.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Up with that and Iron Man.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I'm gonna put them one A one B liquidsurs is
Crazy to and Liquids Source one A one B, one
C in any order for Liquid Source is probably it's
up there. You know, how could I could?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I forget? What about? What is your favorite? What do
you think is the best non Conway Griselda album? Like
Who Niggas and Griselda was? It could be, it could be,
it could Let's say the qualifying artists are gun not
Conway correct the best, the best one of all time.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
It's probably gonna be a one, A, one, one B answer.
But I won't have to say.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
H w H two and uh Tanna Talk three? Tanna
Talk three? Yeah, yeah, I think I think personally, I
think it's Pray for Paris. Okay, I think Pray for
Paris is such a like I don't know, man, it
was so like incredible album. It was just so like

(52:24):
I feel like it was just like a like a peak,
like Tyler was on the album, Freddy was on the album.
It was just so like it was a dynamic album.
But I feel like Tanna Talk three is right there too,
for sure. Yeah. And then but I feel like the
best is I think I think your shit, yeah for sure.

(52:46):
I mean I feel like From King to a Guy
is one of the best albums the last decade for sure.
Said that was twenty twenty was lit. Pandemic was cracking.
We got that album, we got the first Alfredo, we
got a Burden to Proof. It was a good fucking
twenty little pandemic year was good. Rank where you ranked
that album of that year, Like where you ranked from

(53:07):
king to a God? I made a list I had
number one and you number two. Okay, but I did
make the list I posted it. Yeah it was. That
was a twenty twenty. You know what I fucked it
about the pandemic as motherfuckers was like not in the club.
They weren't they was they were really list You had
to find something to do. Yeah, they was listening, applying

(53:30):
themselves to listen.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
That's when all that everybody had to make it start
the list and all that shit started happening.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yep, and then it's like the best of Grammys that
year was it was Kings. That was the album bust
year in hip hop, one of the best years in
hip hop. I feel like in recent memory. Yeah, yeah,
I feel like this here shaping up to be that though.
So let's so let's break it down.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Look at the chance, So he's saying, and one of
the best years in recent memory of hip hop.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
I had one of the best of the year. I'm
the last. We solved it this year. This year, we
solved it.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Now I'm about to Yeah, I gotta drive you home now. Man,
I'm just getting started though, for her. For her, that's
the thing about I'm really only on first base and
everything they heard. You know what I'm saying. This next
ship right then, I'm telling you, this next ship is crazy.
We donna listen to it.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
You gotta GETNAS on something. Man, never gonna make that happen.
Now it happened. It happened. I feel like it's like
just you and nas on some ship to be crazy.
I got something real, man, if.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
You listened and I got something to change, I got something. Uh,
I could forward immediately. Have you ever tried to reach out? No,
I never tried mass appeals on the run. I feel
like you should.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
What would it hurt? I feel like not except it
was to do it. Listen.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
I'm sure that's I'm sure that's nothing. I know when
I yo, I spoke about this, when I was talking
to you about it.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Like I see everybody, like, man, what you scared scared of?

Speaker 2 (55:07):
It's not so let me say this. It's not like
scared like fear, like, oh man, it's not that, it's
actually honor and respect. You know what I'm saying, Nas
is that he warrants that this is Nas we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I just don't think.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I don't and I'm just not that type of guy
anyway and outside of this rap shit, but I just
don't feel like I need to be just like my
first interaction with Nas, I don't feel like that's my
place to be, like, yo, man, let me sing you
a joint, Let's do something now.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
He might not mind. He might be because close mama,
don't get fit.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
We met a couple of times. I've seen him on
at the the Canelo fight in Vegas. I went to
one of the fights and on Vegas, I was walking
my bro my bro Kyla playing to the ring and shit,
and I was, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
After the fight, I seen I ran in the naves,
back in the lunge. But also love like he showed
love like I'm sure, nah, that love just the same way.
I wouldn't want to work with him. You want to
do it, I'm sure you would, but I feel like
you and push because you guys, have you next time
we link, I'll ask you and Push only did that
record on Burners album, right yep, like you guys never

(56:17):
really did like a real fun Like I feel like
Burner is like a fucking an r Shordinarraw. He just
be taking mofuckers and put them together. That would not ever,
you know, But I feel like you Push, I feel
like I can have him. I show love, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Like I don't seen guys and stuff and all that
have been around niggas, and you know, I love that.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I ain't I'm not a groupie. Just looking for something
for people all the time, sometime just showing love. I
just want to be out to show show love, watch you,
watch you kill ship.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
I ain't looking for actually to have your phone number
and go back and forth just because I want to,
you know what I mean, get something from Yeah, I
don't want to learn from you for nobody.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
I love to collab though, but you're feel like, at
the end of the day, it's important that you're a
fan first, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I'm a fan first, bro, and that's why my album
ain't got a lot of features and ship on it
right right now. And I ain't with that feature ship
right now. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
I want I want to work.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
To speak for itself. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Said, rock it, rock marks on it. That's my brother though.
I got Kendricks on that ship. I got I got
Lady London on that ship. Okay, he's dope and uh
that's it, man, just me, just me now, just mean man.
It's lonely, it's lonely.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, you're good man, you always get you.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
You got Chad Man trying to fuck with me like that, bro,
he just only want a camera on you feel me?
As soon as y'all so, Chad, you know what I man,
As soon as we leave here, I ain't gonna hear
from Chad for about a week.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
And a half. He's got to decompress after he's been
around all this fucking tequila, fucking blood smoke and fucking
a night at Rhymefest, I have me fucking stressed out.
They had you all in there with no God named
wristbands last night, No Gotten everybody performed, They ran out
of wristbands at fucking three o'clock. They gave me DJ

(58:17):
quick sparking pass. I'm like, well, what about when he
gets here? Yeah, yeah, I don't know, get fired. It
was it was for sure. It was a good time. Man.
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Do you have high expectations for your Buffalo Bills this year?

Speaker 2 (59:22):
I believe, I'm telling you, and I'm put this on
my soul. I believe that Josh Allen, a number seventeen,
will lead the Buffalo Bills to his first Super Bowl
appearance since.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
The early nineties this year.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
This year, Okay, possibly a back to back MVP, but
I'm standing on the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Do you worry that Mahomes looked bad in the Super
Bowl and he's gonna come back like a psycho this year?
Because I watched that Quarterbacks documentary from a couple of
years ago. Patrick Mahomes is a sick fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Listen, you gotta worry, You gotta worry Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I want to punch him. He's out of this world.
It's not you can do. Really, his dad's fucking you
can't do you driving his wife's Maggie trumpet and he's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Hey, yo, listen, man, you gotta have you can't beat
You're not gonna win that game with a mediocre or
sub power defense, you can't have no weaknesses, no holes,
Lissah look even look at even like the Bills. This
is one of the greatest games played by a quarterback ever.
Josh Allen and lost for the thirteen second he went

(01:00:43):
down the field. It's like, you gotta have you heat
if you have any holes in your defense. Patrick Mahomes
is gonna cut through that ship with surgical precision.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I think, uh, what I want to see just for
the losers, and I'm a Cardinals fan, so I know
what it's like to be a loser. It would be nice.
The last couple of years, I've been rooting for a
Lion's bill Super Bowl because those might be the two
bottles gonna happen last year, those might be the two
most torture fan bases. That was my play last year.
That was a f of neither team. I'll be happy

(01:01:16):
of either of them one because I'm like man, because
I fuck with the Lions. I think this the year man.
Dan Campbell's a fucking psycho. I love it. I think
that yea. You know what I'm saying. Do you think
your coach is the right coach?

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I do I do, and I hate when people will
be like calling for his like yo, switching up da
da da, Like, man, he's a listen, we haven't been
we haven't seen any postseason's success or even if we
ain't even sniffed the postseason for about twenty years until
he came.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
We want to get rid of him. Like you know
what I'm saying, I got to hang out with this
guy for boy, Dave Ball, really, Dave Man, don't get
fucking fired this year if the Giants sucked, though, I
told him, I said, I said, I met Brian Dabo,
I said who's starting, and you know Russ. Of course
I was like, I said, hey, man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
You just gonna leak that out of the thing like that,
I said to him, I said, you know they got you.
I said to day Ball, I said, you're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
This just in. I told Brian Dabo, I said, I
look at the sports books, and you're you got the
best ds the worst coach to get fired it's him
and Mike McDaniel. That's a good bet. Hey, the Giants
still got They got a lot of quarterbacks, dog like,
not all of not e of them are incredible, but
they got the rookie the Jackson Dart. They got goddamn

(01:02:36):
Winston and his crab legs stealing ass, and they got
mother fucking that's what looking Winston is. Just always he'll
show you a flash where you're like, what the fuck
he could he could do anything? And then and then
you know, then you listen to him in his pregame
speech and you're like, there's no way anyone on this
team takes his main serious respect. And that's what it is.

(01:02:59):
What the fuck wide receiver he's randing that? Who receivers?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
We got Josh Palmer from the Chargers, brought him over there. Okay,
yeah he only had he only went over a thousand yards, not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Sure, Yeah he did, no fucking hould it up. There's
no fucking way, because I had him on my fantasy
team and I dropped that motherfucker. Hold on, hold on,
you might have been in jerk maybe the year before,
you know, pull it up, Chad, look it up, give
me the receiving yards last year. But anyway, we got him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
We got the stud second year rookie, Keon Cole Mill
he's good, Khalil Shakur, we got motherfucker who else we got?

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Yeah, last year. Just over, just over Cliff, Wait wait wait,
just over clear Josh Palmer twenty twenty four, thirty nine
catches five hundred and eighty four yards. It was hurt
out to twenty twenty three thirty eight catches five hundred
and eighty one yards. Wait wait wait twenty twenty two
seventy two catches seven hundred and sixty nine yards. Exactly.
He's never had a thousand yards. Mentioned the touchdowns in Yeah,

(01:04:02):
one touchdown, two touchdowns, three touchdowns, four touchdowns. We might
have got a different Parmer. Now you got that. He's
I'm looking at sw that's the same guy. He's never
even had eight hundred yards in the season. He was herd.
He ain't have Josh either. I'll tell you what happened
last year. They were like the he have Josh, nobody
had Herbert. Who's overrated? Okay, who's more operrated? Herbert or

(01:04:26):
old boyfriend the Jaguars? What Lawrence? Trevor Lawrence? I mean
they're crazy. It's the boy's both nice. It's just they
just man, fuck man, they gotta have Herbert, right, try
to get boughed on. Yeah, I gotta want to have Herbert.
Herbert is nice man. Herbert is nice.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
So I can see why he makes everybody's list, Like
when you watch the shows, like he in the top ten,
top five somewhere Herbert and he having won, he.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Got wide receivers. Now he got Brian Thomas, he got
Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Is definitely was like scratch on my head when he
got that big contract and on it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
I'm like watching this. Yeah, he gave up that lead
in the playoffs against the It was like it was
up by like thirty diabolic yea, So everybody gotta get
fired anyway, We'll be all right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Got we got steal k, got knocks cook We just
we just locked cooking. We got the best offensive line
in football. We got the best quarterback in the football.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
I think you do have the best quarterback. Put it.
We got the best offensive line. You didn't google that too?
They were number one on Google. I ain't gonna lie.
I'm love so all right. So that was coming out
in a couple of weeks, and then hopefully Rejects three
will be for the ten year anniversary.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna try to squeeze that into balls.
We're gonna get that right, Yeah, that'll be crazy as
uh be before the end of the year or the
top of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Yeah, this year, like it would be like like I said,
it'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Around if we can get that album out of it,
be like around a Halloween, probably like early November.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Would you like you have sely have a song called Katie?
You're cool with Katie? Would you let Katie executive produce
an album? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Hell yeah, kt KD gotta yo. Let me tell you
Katie gave me Katie the reason why I ended up
even buying.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
The studio, againing studio quipment in a lab what what
was it about? Nothing? I was at his crab.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
We was you know what I'm saying, smoking and ship
I'm smoking at his crib and that nigga like yo,
He's like, shit, will you be recording now? You gotta
laugh at your crib. I'm like, hell no, I'll be
going you know what I'm saying. And I think he
heard me. I think what brought it up is he
I was venting probably the chat to somebody like they'll

(01:06:51):
lock the studio where that nigga with the studio, like
Buffalo is hard to get studio time. It's only like
a couple of handful of studios and they always both
up crazy type shit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
It so ain't you ain't got your all lap And
I didn't even know he was gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Then Nigga went upstairs, went in the room where we
like we was in his crib like and brought brought me,
like some students, a mic fucking interface or type of
ship like here you go, like gave me, gave me
my first stetup, my first studio KT Kevin Durant. And
that's when I'm like, damn, like no, you always got
to have your own ship, you know. I learned from

(01:07:30):
just having that. I mean I still had to go
get like some cores and some other pieces and speakers
and all that shit, as far as you know, the
nuclear something like he passed me that ship on the
arm like here you okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Katie is a very nice guy. I only met him
one time, actually one and a half times. I met
him matter who lounge in Phoenix. Actually I may have
met him three times because he was in I think
he went to my club, but K spent to K
I had a Rex Chapman Sun's jersey on I went
to Freddy's birthday. It was at Katie's house in the

(01:08:03):
middle of the pandemic. This is when he was hurt
on the net nets. Yeah, nobody have masks on and
ship and I was like, like, look at you violating
league rules in here. He guess we won't be seeing
you in the bubble hunk Kevin. But then he ends
up coming to the Suns and you know we uh
you know ship Man, Bradley beal Man, you know fut Yeah. Yeah,

(01:08:28):
the no trade cloes dog Ship that worst trade ever.
It's fine, our owners just playing two k blindly. Now
we have Jalen Green and Devin, which makes sense on
the basketball court, No, it doesn't. Oh, I think we're
gonna I think we're winning twenty nine games this year,
twenty nine games and that and going going in the

(01:08:48):
next year. Devin Booker requests a trade. Oh no, no, boys,
getting the boys getting in there, at least getting the
first round. They're gonna go and Jalen Green. Yeah, listen
to what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
They're gonna whoever gonna have to play them boys in
the play and gonna have their hands for I'm just.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Happy that at least d again. See, so now I
can book Dre at my nightclub. For like a lot
less who she lives in town. So I'll be like, yo, Drea,
gonna get this money, bring your bring your brutal. We
fucking suck. I like the malladwatch kid from Duke that
we drafted. I mean I think I like him. He
averaged eight points and six rebounds a game in college,

(01:09:27):
so whatever the fuck that translates into the league. We
have the angry little Canadian dude with the forehead. What's
his name, Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Listen, all right, watch what I tell you. Remember I said,
I hope your Phoenix songs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Phoenix songs. I hope you're right. Because who in the
West that's gonna be good? Everybody? How do you know
the Mavericks is gonna be good? Hyrio?

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
What if?

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
What if? He We ain't seen him yet though we
don't know. We hadn't seen anything one of his rockets.
I like the longest team ever. They just got length
for no reason. The Clippers are the oldest team in
NBA history, but they're healthy. They got crazy. That was crazy?
Was that a possible? Yeah? They have some long guys

(01:10:15):
on the I mean they got named Katie. They got
the Lamar Thompson yeah, Clippers, Hey the Clippers, Bari Smith
Ji how the Rockets are gonna be in there, the
thunder thunder gonna be in there. Nuggets are going to
be the two seed. I think the Nuggets look the

(01:10:35):
most on off season.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Lakers, Clippers. You're gonna say Rockets, Warriors, Fuck the Warriors.
That's seven and that's what I'm saying that last year.
So everybody else you don't think Phoenix.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Can beat and get that ah C who else left?
I think we're worse than the Mavericks, Utah, We're worse
than the Lakers, y'all. Lakers got Luca listen, eighty could
possibly be hurt. Kyrie is hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
So now you got Cooper flag Gafford and the fucking
PJ Smith bro who could be hurt?

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Shot to PJ Washington, Man, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
What I'm saying, Shot the PJ Washington The niggas is
do I'm just saying, but that's only your I'm not
sure I don't want to put Mavericks ahead of Phoenix
right now. You got a healthy Jalen Green who got
a chick on their shoulders. We're getting traded, getting let
down in the playoffs. You ain't doing ship. We've seen
him with a dinner forty point game in the playoffs,
though the rest of the games that were single ditches.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
But we've seen them go crazy one game. I appreciate
the level of that. He still got Booker, you got
Dylan Brooks. We've seen what he do. He all he
played on the successful teams. That's all these.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
The Houston was the number one, they had number two,
Seeds three two, the Ship, the Raptors one.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Who was he on the Raptors? Now he was on
the Who did he come from? On the gzz They
was fifty five wins every year. I think the Grizzlies
might have a little So you got you got that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Nice as long as is gonna be nice? What you who?

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
If it's Memphis and Phoenix and for the play in
an a spot, you don't think Fenix got to com
beat them with a healthy Booker and Jalen Green.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
I'm just being very very I'm cooked, man, my whole life. Listen.
I put it with me. You gotta bet with me.
When we traded for Katie, I popped the bottle of
champagne in the street while wearing a Michel Bridges son's jersey.
Videotape that ship and put it on TikTok and Instagram
and screamed that we're winning the championship. And I was

(01:12:41):
wearing I said, I got the mckel jersey. Without you, Michel,
we wouldn't have Kevin. Thank you, mchelt. It was brutal, man.
And guess what fucking new owner syndrome bites us in
the ass. Fucking Bradley Beal. Such a sweet guy, I'm sure,
but for fuck's sake, man, oh, Bradley Bill, he can't

(01:13:02):
go nowhere in Phoenix something I mean, man, whenever the
Clippers come to Phoenix and it's just some rough fans too,
all right, man with Bray. We're waiting for that album?
Was it August? What twenty second? No, No, I ain't
coming on that'll be just Friday. It ain't coming on
this right now? Wait when' day I'm coming out? I
don't know. Yeah, our Stone, when I said that, oh

(01:13:26):
so we don't have a day. We ain't got no
day yet? Well, ship, but you did say the twenties
what I was? I want to make sure. I'm like,
I know, I ain't fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Stone, but we're gonna I think we're gonna get it
out like sometime in like maybe mid September.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Second on Halloween. You better get this ship out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We we we, we gotta speed.
We have to figure it out now. Chat ain't sucking
up this time. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
I gotta say. I gotta stand up with my boy
chat Chat TV. You ain't fuck this ship up. There
it is, man. So look, the new Apps not coming
out Friday, nah, and it's not coming out in August,
but it is coming out in September.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Maybe no, no, no, maybe we just ain't got the
actual day yet. I was coming out in September, Okay,
I stand on that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
So September New Conrie album. I like it. There it is,
and uh being on the road too, and I'm sure
you're gonna announce a tour after all that goodness. Yep,
November is the tour.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Were just finalizing everything with that, and we're gonna get
this ship going.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Man. You know what I'm saying, y'all gonna see a
lot from the machine. You're gonna see.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
You know, we got the album, we got the tour,
We we we We're gonna do some other cool content things.
You know what I'm saying, I'm about to start getting
into this space right here. I'm just getting myself prepared,
shopping in my.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Blade for that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
So we're gonna y'all gonna see Machine in this in
this space right here.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
You know what I mean, the podcast, Yeah, the machine.
You know what I'm saying, So I could talk contact
people don't like you about sports. You know what I mean?
For your own team. I'm clamoring for your own team,
you is, you know what, sir, I have no expectations.
All of a sudden, I'm rooting for fucking the Phoenix

(01:15:19):
Mercury because they're like nineteen and twelve right now. So
I had, like, I like everybody in this Mercury. That's
an as trying to everybody who pretends to watch female basketball.
You watching it? Nah, I just pretended to watch their records. Yeah,
I'm like, oh, look, we're nineteen and twelve, so they

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want to ring. You're gonna celebrate. You're gonna be a
new fair at the parade Champagne best, Hey, the best
ship that's happened in this year. And when they started
checking in green diodles and everybody started watching. You're gonna
make millions of dollars all that. Can you imagine if
motherfuckers went at NBA games and started throwing pussy? How

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diabolical would that be? A flesh flesh light just fucking
hits you in the face.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Yo, what.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
M anyway? So all right, that'd be dope. I feel
like you're doing a podcast. I feel like the Jadakis
in Joe podcast is so funny. Oh my goodness, Yeah,
it's hilarious. I don't even like I know you said
you sat down with them, right, so that's probably coming
out soon. I like it when itsues them too, Yeah,
I know. And fat joke I love more than those

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fat Joe stories.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Oh my god, he told his story when that ship
come on the ship we did. Oh my god, you're
gonna be in tear. People are gonna be in tear
on the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
When this guy was hurting. I drink twenty five thirty
dire cokes a day. Yeah, that's so much. That's a
that's an improbable amount of anything to drink a day. Anyway,
con I appreciate your mandy. Oh man, this ship was dope, man, Yes,
sir boom h m hm