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Speaker 3 (01:00):
Come on, who let keV here man. We got a
special guest, my Dog Demrick, Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Back, whatever.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Brother. Yeah, it's been a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You got a new album out that you and Austin
worked on together.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yep, shout out my boy Austin Sexton and Ot the Undefeated.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
They produced. The whole album is called.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
OHI Yeah, this guy Austin is like an alien. Huh
could do it all man, kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I didn't even know he had the bag that he
went into on this one as far as like the production,
like the sampling and all that. When you meet him
and you know he could do pop records and all
that stuff. Him seeing him on that kind of vibe
is definitely a switch up.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, how many albums out do you have altogether?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I counted, bro, it's like thirty thirty albums. Thirty albums
when you're like.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, it's crazy too because you always like like you're
obviously you've been independent pretty much your whole career.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, so I wonder like because I feel like some
artists don't kind of understand, like catalog is like, really.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
What keeps the lights on exactly?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
If you got thirty albums, man, it's like all that
shit adds up every month, right, it definitely does.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, hell yeah, you know, catalog I think even when
I realized that that because before that, right, it was
all blog era shit. Right, It's like it was just
putting it out for free, trying to catch some some
vibe and then a label might sign it, right uh,
And a lot of people that were in that era
didn't make it out of that era, you know. So
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the ability to you know, first put your shit on
iTunes made a difference, and then when streaming happened, that's
started to bring the hustle mentality out of.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Me, right right?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Right? Do you feel like because I feel like there
is like a hustle to being an independent rapper. You
have so many different like things You're part of you
and dizzy you and h hop a y obviously the
serial killer shit?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Like do you kind of have to have your hand
in a bunch of different pots musically, like to really
kind of like because I feel like there's so many
independent artists or talented but just can't fucking make enough
money to keep it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Going, just to keep it going.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think early on because you remember,
like even when you met me the first time, like
I was featured on b Reel's album, and I was
hype manning, right, So I realized, I think the very
first check I got in music or money wise from
music was going out as a hype man, right, and
then being featured on records and then a songwriter. And
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then you know, it was a while, like I said,
before music was even being sold, during the time when
I was really catching my opportunities as far as like
the blog era is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
So yeah, I did it all.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I still do a lot of shit, Like when I
seen that you could give money and like doing shit
for TV and film and sync placements and all that stuff.
And I realized, like if I just kept feeding and
my fans, they would be the ones that turn into
they'll be promote for me.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So just strengthen numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Bro, what is it like working on the serial killer shit?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like, because that's got to be just I mean, like
this is the fifth go go around with these guys,
and I mean just being those are your friends. You've
been on the road with these guys, you obviously shared
the stage with them for over a decade each. What's
it like just kind of getting in and like creatively
locking in with two guys like that two Jedis.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I mean, yeah, it's like every time, it's all it's
just about upping it with them. You know, they're b
Reel's pens still sharp. X is a fucking beast, you know.
Kingmakers are crazy incredible and it's uh, you know, getting
in with them. And then on this one we brought
in Scoop Deville. He produced the whole shit oh shit,
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So we took it back to the very first record
we ever did was Don't You Dare Laugh on b
Reil Smoking Mirrors album. That's the first time me X
and b Rail were on a song and it was
reduced by Scoop, So we brought them in.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
He produced Old Ship.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
So just getting in the in the studio with with
them and creating this album, you know, it's it's just
always a great feeling to be working with people that
like especially Exen like, I mean, come on, I was
I was in high school freestyling over fucking the paparazzi instrumental.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
That's wild, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So to be five albums deep in a group with
him toward the whole world so many times over is
like a blessing.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Obviously. Cyprus Hill legendary should be real as a master
of this ship.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
If you were to, like, because you have so many
series of projects, whether it's Stony Point or You and
Dizzy or the Serial Killer stuff, which which one of
those three ventures you think has the best discography quality?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Pounding, Damn, damn, that's wow. That's that's a crazy question.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I don't know. It's hard for me.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's hard for me to do that because me and
Hopa Shit is like special. Now this I'm not gonna
I've about to give a long winded answer. I would
say I would I would say, uh Mi and Hoppa
shit is special because I started to catch like even
though it's that's more of.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
A producer, rapper duo type thing.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So that was special because that's a lot of my
own that's like almost like my solo shit over a
special like a special kind of production. So that holds
a place in my heart because I was able to
go out there and do Stony Point headlining tours. First
time I ever went on my own tours where it
was a line of fans coming to check out my
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music just solely for me was Stony Point. So that
has a special place in my heart, you know, Blaze
with a series with Dizzy. I felt like it was
really important pushing the cannabis movement in such a special
time in it, you know, twenty fifteen, sixteen seventeen, kind
of like the heyday of the legalization and kind of
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like what was happening in the in the era. So
that shit is special. And me and him get booked
time for time for to go do shows and we
just do a bunch of Blaze with us material, So
that's special. And then Serial Killers is special to me
because I'm working with legendary icons and hip hop. So
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I don't know which one's the best one, but I'm
partial to the Stony Point stuff because it opened a
lot of a lot of solo doors for me.
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Speaker 2 (09:11):
Do you feel like because I feel.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like not enough artists will like lock in with a
producer for full projects. But you've done that a lot obviously,
Mike and Keys and Yeah hop A, Austin Sex and ot.
Do you feel like that's like an easier process when
you're working on your shit because you don't have to
Like I feel like when you just work with one producer,
it's a lot easier to clear business, right and like.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Way easier to clear business. And also I just I
was in a group originally when I first started this
music shit, and I always treated hip hop as a
as like a team sport, and so to be able
to rock with with somebody, uh and try to get
to a goal, like even when I did the album
with Tony Chopp, you know, it's like I like tapping
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in with a producer, seeing what kind of music they
would make, where they see their vision and with my
and how it how it lines up, you know, and
and uh shout out DJ Mugs because he told me
way early on. You know, find a producer to work
with and and stick with that, you know, And that's
why I even had two projects with Scoop Deville, Like
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I have so many different things where I where I've
worked with one solid producer on projects.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I say, is it for you?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Like is there a chemistry that you I mean, it's
probably Hopper, right, you guys have so much music in
terms of just like honing in with a producer.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I would definitely say I was. I'd definitely say
DJ Hopper. I mean me and I feel like Championship
Rounds and Championship Rounds two with me and Mikey Keys,
like that's some sleep on music. And yeah they did
Blaze with us three, Like the wave that with them
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I mean a lot of these producers, I always lean
back to what working with Hopper because, like I said,
like the doors that that opened, Like I remember when
the first, uh the first A Stony Point album dropped
and going and performing Clouds above Us with Dizzy at
his shows and seeing five hundred people singing the fucking
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song with us, and I was like, yo, that that
music started to take a life of his own and
I could still go out at any one of my
shows and play Stony Point music and people are gonna
sing along with me.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Which producer would you like to do an album but
that you haven't yet?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Damn h Alchemists, I mean, I mean, that's the whole
world is gonna. I mean I've asked him multiple times,
you know, how to you know, chopped it up with
him and uh, you know when the time is, when
the time permiss out, let's run that, you know. But
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you know, there's a lot of dope ass producers that
I like to work with. I actually just got to
work with I did the rock the Bell's Cruise, uh
ship with with X last month or some shit like that.
And I got to do a song with Manny Fresh
oh Fire, So I got to that was cool. And
there's just a lot of producers that I respect, you know,
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Havoc my deep would be crazy, you know, some production
I love. I'd love to do a project with Battle Cat.
I'd love to obviously, you know, uh, just the Aftermath
staff like over.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
There, any type of shit.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, you know, there's there's so many dope people that
I that I admire their work that I'd like to
collaborate with is.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
The Rock the Bells Tour like what I picture the
cruise or yeah, the cruise I mean like is I
just feel like it'd be just like a bunch of
dusty old heads like me.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Just it's it's it's it is.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You want to know something, it's I don't would I
wouldn't consideringly say dusty old heads.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Wouldn't be the words that I would use.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But it's like forty five year old white dudes.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
No, it was all black. Really it was all black, okay,
you know what I mean straight up like.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
A bunch of me and Spencer Breens on the tour,
like on the cruise ship.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And I would say, is it's definitely like thirty to
like you know fifty type of age range and uh
because it was right yeah ll but you know it's
like people that want to go see like on on
the one that we did was uh juvenile with the
with the band loop Loop a fiasco was there?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
The locks exhibit.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Twists the whole time, Yeah, dog pound, you know it's
a long list, and then to like empty Light and
Kji like I got to see bro. I never thought
in my whole life that I would see get to
watch Cougie rap perform. I thought, maybe I have missed
my time to see that, and I want to go
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on this fucking cruise now, Yo, this this ship was
food poisoning.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Food was good.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'm so I've never been I've never been on a cruise,
and I'm like, I have like a hard line in
the sand where I'm like.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Nope, You're like, I won't fuck with it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But that sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
It's cool because it's it was hip hop the whole time,
like you know, the Elevator music and all that ship
might be. You know who tank wan ain't nothing to
fuck with. You know, it's cool, It's great experience.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
For you man, Uh, it's been a pretty dope year
and hip hop outside of your own music. What what
would you put in the Album of the year.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Run besides oh, which I think is I'm just happy
that people were fucking with with lyrics. I like, uh,
the Clips album obviously, I feel like that's a big
time front runner that a lot of people are talking about.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Kingmaker.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I felt like X's album was extremely you know, it's
I don't not slept on because I feel like people
with it. But sometimes shit got to resonate for a
little bit. You're gonna just kind of double back and
be like, that's something something special. I mean, there's a
lot of good music that that that came out this year.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I'm curious, what's your fact?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Clips? The Clips?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I just I like that they just popped out and
people were hip hop's in a weird place though, too, right?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Do you know what?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Ever, I never stopped listening to the Clips album, Like,
I feel like I still listen to it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's for me.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's like Clips are Alfredo too or my two for
the year, and then and then probably the Larry June
now Shit with two Chains.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Love that album.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Life's beautiful. It's crazy, man. There's some great albums this
year though.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, and people fucking with hip hop. But I wanted
to ask you to like, do you what do you
where do you think the state of hip hop is
at right now?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I love I think it's been the best year of
hip hop in a long time.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I think the last time was this good was probably
like twenty twenty twenty. We had some good ship, but
this year it's been I'm like trying to put together
my year end list for the albums, and I'm like, Jesus,
so much good shit came out this year. It's like,
is getting hurt.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
At getting left off to a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Of good music that came out this year.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Man, Like it's but do you feel like this, let
me ask you this. You feel like the staying power
of music is like lasting as long. I don't know
why I felt like shit is dropping and came out.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's kind of been like that for a minute. I
feel like ever since we got to the point where
like it was so easy to release music, like you
just upload your own ship. I just feel like people's attentions.
That's why it's like, if you, if you for me,
if like I listened to an album more than a
month or.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Two, I'm like, it's a special piece of work.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And there's a bunch of projects this year that I
was just like, I'm like, I just keep going back
to so I love. Honestly, I feel like this is
the even even though there's like all the Billboard narrative
ship that's out there that's a little lacking nuance because
they changed the rules, so a lot of stuff fell
off the chart. But I think it's I think hip
hop's in a good place because it's like the underground
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ship's cracking.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, so it's like.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know, and even the big ship like Laboy cardis
technically kind of still an underground artist. Now, whether you
like him or not, it's one thing. But he has
like a very like his movement is very like underworld
type shit, you know what I'm saying. Like, Yeah, Playboy
cardis doing arenas while still kind of not being like
like a pop culture.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Kind of like the Suicide Boys type shit or the
Biggest version.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yes, similar, similar, yeah, similar in their own little I'd
be cardis a lot more mainstream than Suicide Boys, but
very similar. Suicide Boys are fucking doing arenas and nobody
like they're not household names, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I feel like Christian hip hop popped off this year.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Uh yeah, Miles Minnic had a good year.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, Lacraye, I don't know what else.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I just know Miles.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So I'm an atheist, so the Christian hip hop doesn't
hit as well with me.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But Miles Minnic had a dope album.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, And I'm just really talking about I'm thinking more
of just like what's trend, Like it's just weird. I
feel like the landscape with hips so broad now it's
like Freddie Gibbs in All the Way to Playboy CARDI like,
they're all different.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
They're such different.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
There's a lot of subgenres of rap.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Now there we go.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, it's definitely splintered, which is fine. Yeah, because it's
like that with rock.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
There's folk, there's fucking alternative, there's metal. There all the
same shit. It's actually better, right yeah, I think it's better. Yeah,
it's something for everybody.
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Speaker 3 (20:05):
Well, it's gonna it's this thing of ours is gonna
be the title of the album, and uh, we're gonna
drop it. We're announcing the date, like I say, it's April.
We're gonna drop it in April fire.
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So it's cool.
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It's going crazy right now.
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Easy sample to you know, be real, spoke to uh,
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Speaker 1 (20:46):
And for someone who's known for being such a big pothead,
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Speaker 4 (20:50):
I'm so batter fulled. I ain't drink. I'm rob dogg
in life right now.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
How does it feel?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It's crazy, bro, Like, I feel great though, but I'm
trying to learn how to be social again.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Is it the news?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So the alcohol, the weed the hardest thing to give
up for you.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
You know, I was a big fan of the cross.
I might be one of those people that really loved
the crossfade, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
But obviously.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's like if you're going we do them both.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I mean, you usually see can be stoned and drunk,
you know, but.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Uh, alcohol just is uh you know, it's I feel
like I was, all right, you go to the airport, you
rather get on the flight to go to the show.
You have a couple of drinks, you land, you, you
go to soundcheck, have a drink after soundcheck, go get
dinner before the thing, have some drinks, go do the show,
take a couple of shots through his stage, have some
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celebratory shots out.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
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Speaker 3 (21:50):
It, before you know it, you're doney Sonny and uh
so I feel like I need to put more restraint,
restraint on the drink.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Uh. And I'm happy that I did that.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And I had partied Hella for a long time, so
it's cool to be able to say, all right, let
me do it like this now.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I wonder because it's like, I know so many homies
of mine who's brand to their fans is like wrapped
up in weed. Yeah, and you're like one of those
guys yeah, I forget what I have. Like I think
the old school merch I had of yours had like
was weed and money.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, money and weed.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's the old school yeah, one of my very Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And like so I mean obviously blaze with us and
the Stony Points ship all that is it? Like, is
it hard for you to kind of like remove that
part of your because it's so kind of wrapped up
in some of the music.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Great question, And I feel like it's okay to to say, hey,
I'm not smoking right now?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Am I am?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I saying I'm never gonna smoke again. You know, it's
okay to evolve and grow in this music. Ship, And
like I done did the the Dave hits, the smoke boxes,
the fucking bob rips, and ship I done did. I
don't the days a like proving that you're like can
(23:14):
go run? You know, I'll save that for the designated
people who want that to be their thing. My whole
ship is like, uh, this is actually something new. I
never tried sobriety, so let me give this a shot.
And I feel like people will rock with me because
they they've been they've been along with me on this
(23:35):
whole journey. And then plus in the cannabis market, I
feel like we contributed with the stony point, with the
actual cannabis line. I've done a lot of things. Cool
shit in cannabis that's like doesn't always have to be
with how much can I smoke?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Even that, what was the strain you had with the
Asian brad.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Gaslado, you know, the gasco and that ship blew up
in the street. That ship that's shit really weak off.
So it was cool to be able to say, like,
you know, I've really contributed in that world on a
on a couple of different levels. I don't think that
it's all attached with me smoking weed every day.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I just it's it's like, I don't you remember when
Snoop like supposed to be quit. It was all this
outrage like quick we yeah, and I was like, damn,
I didn't last very long.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But I wonder if, like the like like when people revolt,
if Wiz ever said I'm giving up weed, I think.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
People would be like what the fuck? Like why is he?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
You know, they probably really want to know. But you know,
even for the for the serial killers, like they're like, oh,
we're gonna do a smoke box for the for it,
you know, on the to be real. Yeah, exactly, and
I'll just sit in the smoke box and kick it.
It's not like, you know, I still love it, but
I'm just not doing it. I'm just choosing not.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
To do it right now.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You it's like more about the alcohol.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yes, And it's the one and the two, you know,
the one the two. And I think once I get
things more leveled and really prove to myself that I
could do, you know, handle things and the way I
need to, then yeah, I'll address the situation.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Then, are you?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Uh because nowadays when you guys drop, you gotta kind
of do content, right.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You gotta do fucking vertical stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So much content is that something that is easier hard
for you to kind of adjust to.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
What I used to say about me is that I
used to you know, I was really cool with the
director of mad Alonzo, who was killing shit back in
the day, and uh so I was always shooting music videos.
So to me, short form content is a very easy
thing to do, and I've always been doing it.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's just you have to like up it.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I have a hard time with shooting twenty pieces of
content of the same song and shit like that, right,
because and because I have so much of a catalog too,
I'm like, let's do this. But sometimes it's that or not.
Sometimes a lot of times it's the concentrated effort into
one thing that can move the needle. So it's just
the adjustment. I always been doing it. I think what
(26:09):
I have a problem with, brother, is rapping in front
of the camera, freestyling and all that shit, Like that's
my specialty. That's what I've leaned into. That's opened a
lot of doors for me. Rapping has moved me forward,
just the actual ability to rap, but showing my life
and all this other stuff that they're like, what else
(26:29):
is part.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Of your brand?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And da da dah this and like showing all that stuff.
Maybe the weed was an easy thing for me to
show because I always was around with you know, Philly,
you know, it was always a part of me since
the beginning. So Demrick rapping, weed, hustler, like those were
my you know, So how do I show more of
(26:53):
my real life to create these these fans when or
to make the fans resonate with you more? When all
I can really do is is rap, tell you my
life story through song and music and hope that it
catches you that way. So I think my hard thing
is like figuring out that other side of social media
(27:13):
and not wrapping in front of the camera short form content,
just spinning the sixteen on the street like we was
doing that when we was sixteen years old.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Is it like when you got to pull X and
be Real together to be like, hey guys, we got
to shoot some reels.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yo yo, and you see. I don't know if you've
seen that, but we've been dropping reels for that. So
I'm really I'm really happy that we all, you know what,
the company we're working with, we sat down and we
we devised the game plan and that's part of it.
And we if you take a look, they're working exceptionally well,
(27:46):
you know. And so I think, yeah, it's just the
way of the game. But in the beginning it's I
think for for them, it might have been like then,
you know, be Real is really in the in this
media game.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
He's one of ojees. He's been doing b Real TV
forever bro.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So he understands the he understands the power of it.
And I think that this project is really putting that
short form content shit in the forefront of his mind,
Like damn, I could pop off for real at at
the studio and you know a million motherfuckers will we'll
see it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
You just never know. You got to keep shooting shots
and algorithm.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Exactly bro, And uh yeah, I'm all with it.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's the new rules.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I'll be like, you can you can complain or you
gotta play by the rules, dog like it is what
it is.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm just like trying to figure out that how to
show and I think actually popping back out and doing
more of this, Like people will be reminding me, like, Yo,
you need to go do this. I've done the Boulet
keV show, right, I don't know you need to do
it again. You gotta do it, Sam, you gotta do
this shit every year, so you could clip it up
and show people your personality and really give that try
(28:51):
to drop some knowledge and connect with people in a
different way than just just wrapping.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You already got twenty twenty six lined up in terms
of what you're going to be working on.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, well you know, we know Serial Killers project coming
in April.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yeah, and then it's either gonna you know, me and
Scoop Deville. We got a.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
We got a whole new album that we have. Uh
so it's either gonna be that or or UI too.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I'm surprised you never dropped the project with berner Man.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You know, me and Berner we we had conversations. Just
never uh it never, It never happened. You know, He's
featured me on a lot of.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Stuff, you know, big records.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, I said, And he took me on tour a
bunch of times. And good dude, it's crazy. Me and
Cosmo have a He produced the whole album for me
that I just have sitting sitting, you know, somewhere. It's
on my laptop. I'm like, I'm like, when can I
find time to put this motherfucker out. It's it's dope
(29:52):
ass album. And shout out to those dudes really embraced
me in a cool way and and put me on
with their audience and ship like that. Burner, super solid dude.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Super solid man.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
We'll listen new album Mollie out Serial Killers album in April.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Stay locked in, dem. I appreciate you, brother, Thank you,
brother bo
Speaker 4 (30:17):
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Speaker 3 (01:00):
Come on, who let keV here man. We got a
special guest, my Dog Demrick, Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Back, whatever.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Brother. Yeah, it's been a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You got a new album out that you and Austin
worked on together.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yep, shout out my boy Austin Sexton and Ot the Undefeated.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
They produced. The whole album is called.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
OHI Yeah, this guy Austin is like an alien. Huh
could do it all man, kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I didn't even know he had the bag that he
went into on this one as far as like the production,
like the sampling and all that. When you meet him
and you know he could do pop records and all
that stuff. Him seeing him on that kind of vibe
is definitely a switch up.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, how many albums out do you have altogether?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I counted, bro, it's like thirty thirty albums. Thirty albums
when you're like.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, it's crazy too because you always like like you're
obviously you've been independent pretty much your whole career.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, so I wonder like because I feel like some
artists don't kind of understand, like catalog is like, really.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
What keeps the lights on exactly?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
If you got thirty albums, man, it's like all that
shit adds up every month, right, it definitely does.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, hell yeah, you know, catalog I think even when
I realized that that because before that, right, it was
all blog era shit. Right, It's like it was just
putting it out for free, trying to catch some some
vibe and then a label might sign it, right uh,
And a lot of people that were in that era
didn't make it out of that era, you know. So
(02:34):
the ability to you know, first put your shit on
iTunes made a difference, and then when streaming happened, that's
started to bring the hustle mentality out of.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Me, right right?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Right? Do you feel like because I feel like there
is like a hustle to being an independent rapper. You
have so many different like things You're part of you
and dizzy you and h hop a y obviously the
serial killer shit?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Like do you kind of have to have your hand
in a bunch of different pots musically, like to really
kind of like because I feel like there's so many
independent artists or talented but just can't fucking make enough
money to keep it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Going, just to keep it going.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think early on because you remember,
like even when you met me the first time, like
I was featured on b Reel's album, and I was
hype manning, right, So I realized, I think the very
first check I got in music or money wise from
music was going out as a hype man, right, and
then being featured on records and then a songwriter. And
(03:37):
then you know, it was a while, like I said,
before music was even being sold, during the time when
I was really catching my opportunities as far as like
the blog era is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
So yeah, I did it all.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I still do a lot of shit, Like when I
seen that you could give money and like doing shit
for TV and film and sync placements and all that stuff.
And I realized, like if I just kept feeding and
my fans, they would be the ones that turn into
they'll be promote for me.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So just strengthen numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Bro, what is it like working on the serial killer shit?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like, because that's got to be just I mean, like
this is the fifth go go around with these guys,
and I mean just being those are your friends. You've
been on the road with these guys, you obviously shared
the stage with them for over a decade each. What's
it like just kind of getting in and like creatively
locking in with two guys like that two Jedis.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I mean, yeah, it's like every time, it's all it's
just about upping it with them. You know, they're b
Reel's pens still sharp. X is a fucking beast, you know.
Kingmakers are crazy incredible and it's uh, you know, getting
in with them. And then on this one we brought
in Scoop Deville. He produced the whole shit oh shit,
(04:50):
So we took it back to the very first record
we ever did was Don't You Dare Laugh on b
Reil Smoking Mirrors album. That's the first time me X
and b Rail were on a song and it was
reduced by Scoop, So we brought them in.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
He produced Old Ship.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
So just getting in the in the studio with with
them and creating this album, you know, it's it's just
always a great feeling to be working with people that
like especially Exen like, I mean, come on, I was
I was in high school freestyling over fucking the paparazzi instrumental.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
That's wild, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So to be five albums deep in a group with
him toward the whole world so many times over is
like a blessing.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
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of this ship.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
If you were to, like, because you have so many
series of projects, whether it's Stony Point or You and
Dizzy or the Serial Killer stuff, which which one of
those three ventures you think has the best discography quality?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Pounding, Damn, damn, that's wow. That's that's a crazy question.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I don't know. It's hard for me.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's hard for me to do that because me and
Hopa Shit is like special. Now this I'm not gonna
I've about to give a long winded answer. I would
say I would I would say, uh Mi and Hoppa
shit is special because I started to catch like even
though it's that's more of.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
A producer, rapper duo type thing.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So that was special because that's a lot of my
own that's like almost like my solo shit over a
special like a special kind of production. So that holds
a place in my heart because I was able to
go out there and do Stony Point headlining tours. First
time I ever went on my own tours where it
was a line of fans coming to check out my
(06:43):
music just solely for me was Stony Point. So that
has a special place in my heart, you know, Blaze
with a series with Dizzy. I felt like it was
really important pushing the cannabis movement in such a special
time in it, you know, twenty fifteen, sixteen seventeen, kind
of like the heyday of the legalization and kind of
(07:03):
like what was happening in the in the era. So
that shit is special. And me and him get booked
time for time for to go do shows and we
just do a bunch of Blaze with us material, So
that's special. And then Serial Killers is special to me
because I'm working with legendary icons and hip hop. So
(07:25):
I don't know which one's the best one, but I'm
partial to the Stony Point stuff because it opened a
lot of a lot of solo doors for me.
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Speaker 2 (09:11):
Do you feel like because I feel.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like not enough artists will like lock in with a
producer for full projects. But you've done that a lot obviously,
Mike and Keys and Yeah hop A, Austin Sex and ot.
Do you feel like that's like an easier process when
you're working on your shit because you don't have to
Like I feel like when you just work with one producer,
it's a lot easier to clear business, right and like.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Way easier to clear business. And also I just I
was in a group originally when I first started this
music shit, and I always treated hip hop as a
as like a team sport, and so to be able
to rock with with somebody, uh and try to get
to a goal, like even when I did the album
with Tony Chopp, you know, it's like I like tapping
(09:53):
in with a producer, seeing what kind of music they
would make, where they see their vision and with my
and how it how it lines up, you know, and
and uh shout out DJ Mugs because he told me
way early on. You know, find a producer to work
with and and stick with that, you know, And that's
why I even had two projects with Scoop Deville, Like
(10:13):
I have so many different things where I where I've
worked with one solid producer on projects.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I say, is it for you?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Like is there a chemistry that you I mean, it's
probably Hopper, right, you guys have so much music in
terms of just like honing in with a producer.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I would definitely say I was. I'd definitely say
DJ Hopper. I mean me and I feel like Championship
Rounds and Championship Rounds two with me and Mikey Keys,
like that's some sleep on music. And yeah they did
Blaze with us three, Like the wave that with them
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I mean a lot of these producers, I always lean
back to what working with Hopper because, like I said,
like the doors that that opened, Like I remember when
the first, uh the first A Stony Point album dropped
and going and performing Clouds above Us with Dizzy at
his shows and seeing five hundred people singing the fucking
(11:16):
song with us, and I was like, yo, that that
music started to take a life of his own and
I could still go out at any one of my
shows and play Stony Point music and people are gonna
sing along with me.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Which producer would you like to do an album but
that you haven't yet?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Damn h Alchemists, I mean, I mean, that's the whole
world is gonna. I mean I've asked him multiple times,
you know, how to you know, chopped it up with
him and uh, you know when the time is, when
the time permiss out, let's run that, you know. But
(11:56):
you know, there's a lot of dope ass producers that
I like to work with. I actually just got to
work with I did the rock the Bell's Cruise, uh
ship with with X last month or some shit like that.
And I got to do a song with Manny Fresh
oh Fire, So I got to that was cool. And
there's just a lot of producers that I respect, you know,
(12:17):
Havoc my deep would be crazy, you know, some production
I love. I'd love to do a project with Battle Cat.
I'd love to obviously, you know, uh, just the Aftermath
staff like over.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
There, any type of shit.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, you know, there's there's so many dope people that
I that I admire their work that I'd like to
collaborate with is.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
The Rock the Bells Tour like what I picture the
cruise or yeah, the cruise I mean like is I
just feel like it'd be just like a bunch of
dusty old heads like me.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Just it's it's it's it is.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You want to know something, it's I don't would I
wouldn't consideringly say dusty old heads.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Wouldn't be the words that I would use.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But it's like forty five year old white dudes.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
No, it was all black. Really it was all black, okay,
you know what I mean straight up like.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
A bunch of me and Spencer Breens on the tour,
like on the cruise ship.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And I would say, is it's definitely like thirty to
like you know fifty type of age range and uh
because it was right yeah ll but you know it's
like people that want to go see like on on
the one that we did was uh juvenile with the
with the band loop Loop a fiasco was there?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
The locks exhibit.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Twists the whole time, Yeah, dog pound, you know it's
a long list, and then to like empty Light and
Kji like I got to see bro. I never thought
in my whole life that I would see get to
watch Cougie rap perform. I thought, maybe I have missed
my time to see that, and I want to go
(13:56):
on this fucking cruise now, Yo, this this ship was
food poisoning.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Food was good.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'm so I've never been I've never been on a cruise,
and I'm like, I have like a hard line in
the sand where I'm like.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Nope, You're like, I won't fuck with it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But that sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
It's cool because it's it was hip hop the whole time,
like you know, the Elevator music and all that ship
might be. You know who tank wan ain't nothing to
fuck with. You know, it's cool, It's great experience.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
For you man, Uh, it's been a pretty dope year
and hip hop outside of your own music. What what
would you put in the Album of the year.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Run besides oh, which I think is I'm just happy
that people were fucking with with lyrics. I like, uh,
the Clips album obviously, I feel like that's a big
time front runner that a lot of people are talking about.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Kingmaker.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I felt like X's album was extremely you know, it's
I don't not slept on because I feel like people
with it. But sometimes shit got to resonate for a
little bit. You're gonna just kind of double back and
be like, that's something something special. I mean, there's a
lot of good music that that that came out this year.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I'm curious, what's your fact?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Clips? The Clips?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I just I like that they just popped out and
people were hip hop's in a weird place though, too, right?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Do you know what?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Ever, I never stopped listening to the Clips album, Like,
I feel like I still listen to it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's for me.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's like Clips are Alfredo too or my two for
the year, and then and then probably the Larry June
now Shit with two Chains.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Love that album.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Life's beautiful. It's crazy, man. There's some great albums this
year though.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, and people fucking with hip hop. But I wanted
to ask you to like, do you what do you
where do you think the state of hip hop is
at right now?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I love I think it's been the best year of
hip hop in a long time.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I think the last time was this good was probably
like twenty twenty twenty. We had some good ship, but
this year it's been I'm like trying to put together
my year end list for the albums, and I'm like, Jesus,
so much good shit came out this year. It's like,
is getting hurt.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
At getting left off to a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Of good music that came out this year.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Man, Like it's but do you feel like this, let
me ask you this. You feel like the staying power
of music is like lasting as long. I don't know
why I felt like shit is dropping and came out.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's kind of been like that for a minute. I
feel like ever since we got to the point where
like it was so easy to release music, like you
just upload your own ship. I just feel like people's attentions.
That's why it's like, if you, if you for me,
if like I listened to an album more than a
month or.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Two, I'm like, it's a special piece of work.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And there's a bunch of projects this year that I
was just like, I'm like, I just keep going back
to so I love. Honestly, I feel like this is
the even even though there's like all the Billboard narrative
ship that's out there that's a little lacking nuance because
they changed the rules, so a lot of stuff fell
off the chart. But I think it's I think hip
hop's in a good place because it's like the underground
(16:56):
ship's cracking.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, so it's like.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know, and even the big ship like Laboy cardis
technically kind of still an underground artist. Now, whether you
like him or not, it's one thing. But he has
like a very like his movement is very like underworld
type shit, you know what I'm saying. Like, Yeah, Playboy
cardis doing arenas while still kind of not being like
like a pop culture.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Kind of like the Suicide Boys type shit or the
Biggest version.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yes, similar, similar, yeah, similar in their own little I'd
be cardis a lot more mainstream than Suicide Boys, but
very similar. Suicide Boys are fucking doing arenas and nobody
like they're not household names, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I feel like Christian hip hop popped off this year.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Uh yeah, Miles Minnic had a good year.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, Lacraye, I don't know what else.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I just know Miles.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So I'm an atheist, so the Christian hip hop doesn't
hit as well with me.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But Miles Minnic had a dope album.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, And I'm just really talking about I'm thinking more
of just like what's trend, Like it's just weird. I
feel like the landscape with hips so broad now it's
like Freddie Gibbs in All the Way to Playboy CARDI like,
they're all different.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
They're such different.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
There's a lot of subgenres of rap.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Now there we go.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, it's definitely splintered, which is fine. Yeah, because it's
like that with rock.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
There's folk, there's fucking alternative, there's metal. There all the
same shit. It's actually better, right yeah, I think it's better. Yeah,
it's something for everybody.
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Speaker 3 (20:05):
Well, it's gonna it's this thing of ours is gonna
be the title of the album, and uh, we're gonna
drop it. We're announcing the date, like I say, it's April.
We're gonna drop it in April fire.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
So it's cool.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
We dropped two singles now, s k Anthem was the
first one, called the Cops with the LL sample on
the on the hook.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
It's going crazy right now.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Easy sample to clear since you did his cruise.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Easy sample to you know, be real, spoke to uh,
spoke to him directly dope, you know. So it's cool
to that that kind of energy can happen with with that.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Record, right right, right, right right now. That's so all right.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
And for someone who's known for being such a big pothead,
you're not smoking weed anymore.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I'm so batter fulled. I ain't drink. I'm rob dogg
in life right now.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
How does it feel?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It's crazy, bro, Like, I feel great though, but I'm
trying to learn how to be social again.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Is it the news?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So the alcohol, the weed the hardest thing to give
up for you.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
You know, I was a big fan of the cross.
I might be one of those people that really loved
the crossfade, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
But obviously.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's like if you're going we do them both.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I mean, you usually see can be stoned and drunk,
you know, but.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Uh, alcohol just is uh you know, it's I feel
like I was, all right, you go to the airport, you
rather get on the flight to go to the show.
You have a couple of drinks, you land, you, you
go to soundcheck, have a drink after soundcheck, go get
dinner before the thing, have some drinks, go do the show,
take a couple of shots through his stage, have some
(21:46):
celebratory shots out.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Then you then you're smashed before you know.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
It, before you know it, you're doney Sonny and uh
so I feel like I need to put more restraint,
restraint on the drink.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Uh. And I'm happy that I did that.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And I had partied Hella for a long time, so
it's cool to be able to say, all right, let
me do it like this now.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I wonder because it's like, I know so many homies
of mine who's brand to their fans is like wrapped
up in weed. Yeah, and you're like one of those
guys yeah, I forget what I have. Like I think
the old school merch I had of yours had like
was weed and money.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, money and weed.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's the old school yeah, one of my very Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And like so I mean obviously blaze with us and
the Stony Points ship all that is it? Like, is
it hard for you to kind of like remove that
part of your because it's so kind of wrapped up
in some of the music.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Great question, And I feel like it's okay to to say, hey,
I'm not smoking right now?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Am I am?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I saying I'm never gonna smoke again. You know, it's
okay to evolve and grow in this music. Ship, And
like I done did the the Dave hits, the smoke boxes,
the fucking bob rips, and ship I done did. I
don't the days a like proving that you're like can
(23:14):
go run? You know, I'll save that for the designated
people who want that to be their thing. My whole
ship is like, uh, this is actually something new. I
never tried sobriety, so let me give this a shot.
And I feel like people will rock with me because
they they've been they've been along with me on this
(23:35):
whole journey. And then plus in the cannabis market, I
feel like we contributed with the stony point, with the
actual cannabis line. I've done a lot of things. Cool
shit in cannabis that's like doesn't always have to be
with how much can I smoke?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Even that, what was the strain you had with the
Asian brad.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Gaslado, you know, the gasco and that ship blew up
in the street. That ship that's shit really weak off.
So it was cool to be able to say, like,
you know, I've really contributed in that world on a
on a couple of different levels. I don't think that
it's all attached with me smoking weed every day.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I just it's it's like, I don't you remember when
Snoop like supposed to be quit. It was all this
outrage like quick we yeah, and I was like, damn,
I didn't last very long.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But I wonder if, like the like like when people revolt,
if Wiz ever said I'm giving up weed, I think.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
People would be like what the fuck? Like why is he?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
You know, they probably really want to know. But you know,
even for the for the serial killers, like they're like, oh,
we're gonna do a smoke box for the for it,
you know, on the to be real. Yeah, exactly, and
I'll just sit in the smoke box and kick it.
It's not like, you know, I still love it, but
I'm just not doing it. I'm just choosing not.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
To do it right now.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You it's like more about the alcohol.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yes, And it's the one and the two, you know,
the one the two. And I think once I get
things more leveled and really prove to myself that I
could do, you know, handle things and the way I
need to, then yeah, I'll address the situation.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Then, are you?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Uh because nowadays when you guys drop, you gotta kind
of do content, right.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You gotta do fucking vertical stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So much content is that something that is easier hard
for you to kind of adjust to.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
What I used to say about me is that I
used to you know, I was really cool with the
director of mad Alonzo, who was killing shit back in
the day, and uh so I was always shooting music videos.
So to me, short form content is a very easy
thing to do, and I've always been doing it.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's just you have to like up it.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I have a hard time with shooting twenty pieces of
content of the same song and shit like that, right,
because and because I have so much of a catalog too,
I'm like, let's do this. But sometimes it's that or not.
Sometimes a lot of times it's the concentrated effort into
one thing that can move the needle. So it's just
the adjustment. I always been doing it. I think what
(26:09):
I have a problem with, brother, is rapping in front
of the camera, freestyling and all that shit, Like that's
my specialty. That's what I've leaned into. That's opened a
lot of doors for me. Rapping has moved me forward,
just the actual ability to rap, but showing my life
and all this other stuff that they're like, what else
(26:29):
is part.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Of your brand?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And da da dah this and like showing all that stuff.
Maybe the weed was an easy thing for me to
show because I always was around with you know, Philly,
you know, it was always a part of me since
the beginning. So Demrick rapping, weed, hustler, like those were
my you know, So how do I show more of
(26:53):
my real life to create these these fans when or
to make the fans resonate with you more? When all
I can really do is is rap, tell you my
life story through song and music and hope that it
catches you that way. So I think my hard thing
is like figuring out that other side of social media
(27:13):
and not wrapping in front of the camera short form content,
just spinning the sixteen on the street like we was
doing that when we was sixteen years old.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Is it like when you got to pull X and
be Real together to be like, hey guys, we got
to shoot some reels.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yo yo, and you see. I don't know if you've
seen that, but we've been dropping reels for that. So
I'm really I'm really happy that we all, you know what,
the company we're working with, we sat down and we
we devised the game plan and that's part of it.
And we if you take a look, they're working exceptionally well,
(27:46):
you know. And so I think, yeah, it's just the
way of the game. But in the beginning it's I
think for for them, it might have been like then,
you know, be Real is really in the in this
media game.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
He's one of ojees. He's been doing b Real TV
forever bro.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So he understands the he understands the power of it.
And I think that this project is really putting that
short form content shit in the forefront of his mind,
Like damn, I could pop off for real at at
the studio and you know a million motherfuckers will we'll
see it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
You just never know. You got to keep shooting shots
and algorithm.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Exactly bro, And uh yeah, I'm all with it.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's the new rules.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I'll be like, you can you can complain or you
gotta play by the rules, dog like it is what
it is.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm just like trying to figure out that how to
show and I think actually popping back out and doing
more of this, Like people will be reminding me, like, Yo,
you need to go do this. I've done the Boulet
keV show, right, I don't know you need to do
it again. You gotta do it, Sam, you gotta do
this shit every year, so you could clip it up
and show people your personality and really give that try
(28:51):
to drop some knowledge and connect with people in a
different way than just just wrapping.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You already got twenty twenty six lined up in terms
of what you're going to be working on.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, well you know, we know Serial Killers project coming
in April.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yeah, and then it's either gonna you know, me and
Scoop Deville. We got a.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
We got a whole new album that we have. Uh
so it's either gonna be that or or UI too.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I'm surprised you never dropped the project with berner Man.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You know, me and Berner we we had conversations. Just
never uh it never, It never happened. You know, He's
featured me on a lot of.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Stuff, you know, big records.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, I said, And he took me on tour a
bunch of times. And good dude, it's crazy. Me and
Cosmo have a He produced the whole album for me
that I just have sitting sitting, you know, somewhere. It's
on my laptop. I'm like, I'm like, when can I
find time to put this motherfucker out. It's it's dope
(29:52):
ass album. And shout out to those dudes really embraced
me in a cool way and and put me on
with their audience and ship like that. Burner, super solid dude.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Super solid man.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
We'll listen new album Mollie out Serial Killers album in April.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Stay locked in, dem. I appreciate you, brother, Thank you,
brother bo
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Mhm
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