September 26, 2024 • 29 mins
Natasha Rothwell has gone from the writer’s room at “Saturday Night Live” to on-screen roles in HBO’s “Insecure” and “The White Lotus” to becoming a leading lady in her own show, Hulu’s “How to Die Alone.” Natasha joins the Bright Side to discuss her newest series, why she wants to give people a character to root for, and how it’s a humbling thing to have your dream come true in front of people.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey fam, Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Today on the bright Side, we're joined by Emmy nominated actor,
writer and producer Natasha Rothwell. Her new Hulu series How
to Dialan is out now.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I wanted to give people someone to root for because
that's how I got to where I am. You know,
It's being able to cheer myself on and having my
friends cheer me on as I'm fuck up and make
mistakes as I'm growing.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Natasha is telling us how she's ready to take center
stage and revealing the Steve Martin quote that guides her
every single day. It's Thursday, September twenty sixth I'm Danielle Robe.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
And I'm Simone Boyce and this is the bright Side
from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together
to share women's stories, laugh, learn, and brighten your day.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
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take a second to welcome all you new listeners that
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take a listen to our conversations that aim to inspire, educate,
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and empower women as we tackle life each and every day.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Ay. Welcome to the party, y'all, and today's guest is
the true embodiment of inspiration and empowerment. As we mentioned,
Joining us today is actor, writer and director Natasha Rothwell.
You all know her as Kelly Prenny in the Ray
created series Insecure. Insecure did something so revolutionary. It created
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a cast of characters that felt so incredibly viscerally real,
Like we all felt like, I know these people.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I've got a Kelly in my life. Oh my god,
that's so well said.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Natasha was actually hired on Insecure as a writer and
so she didn't come to be on the cast until
later in the show, and she became a fan favorite
so quickly. She was known for like her clever comebacks,
her one liners.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
A lot of people say Kelly was the funniest character.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
We also can't forget Natasha's Emmy nominated performance as Belinda
in The White Lotus because she's set to reprise that
role in the upcoming third season of the series, which
makes her one of the only actors with a recurring
role on the show, so she's also a favorite of
that show.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
It's so funny because she was one of the most
colorful characters on Insecure, and then on The White Lotus
she plays the straight man, which is a term in
comedy to describe the person who is behaving normally when
everyone else around them is chaotic.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So I think that just speaks to her range.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I mean, she's had some truly iconic roles throughout her career,
always in a supporting role until now, because she's taking
center stage.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
In a big way.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Her new series is called How To Die Alone, and
it is out now. She created it, she executive produced it,
she starred in the show, and it follows her character Melissa,
which is quote a broke, fat JFK airport employee who's
never been in love and forgotten how to dream. But
then she has an accidental brush with death and it
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leads her to finally taking charge of her own life.
So now Natasha's here to talk to us about it all. Natasha,
welcome to the bright Side.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, we're so excited, and a huge congratulations is in
order because your new show just came out. Simone and
I both loved it, were excited to finish the season.
And you've really been a part of shows that have
shaped culture in the last few years, shows that everybody's
talking about. And now you're stepping into this major creative role.
And Simona and I were like, she's literally the main
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character now, it's so exciting. And speaking of cheering you on,
Gail King, she picked your show as a must watch
for this fall, which I.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Do not know this. No, Oh my god, we're breaking
news right now.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
This is and you're not pulling my leg? Is it serious?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Girl, it's an Oprah Daily. Wow, I did that. I
did an interview with her and she was so kind,
but I didn't know it was a I'm gonna need
the vapors in a minute.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
What I think we have to put your Google alerts
on so that you catch.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I've been so this is the busiest I've been in
my life in a way where I'm just like, because
I don't have main character energy in real life, truly,
I don't, and so having to do all of the
press for all of it, and like I just haven't
been on my phone, like I usually.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Am, and so I love that you broke this news.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I'm very excited. That means she probably told Oprah about it.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Am. I this is one step closer.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
To you are literally one degree away, half a degree.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
They talk every day.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Have you met Opri yet? Oh no, no I haven't.
My soul would leave my body.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Okay, So your soul is going to leave your body.
I give I give it literally six months, you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Meet your mouth from your mouth to God's ears. Okay.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Just because you haven't seen this article yet, I feel
like we need to read it to her, Danielle. The
headline is Gail King found the perfect solve for your
end of summer scaries. Natasha Rothwell's new series How to
Die Alone is part of Gail's September lineup.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Wow wow wow wow wow wow. Yeah that is I Yeah,
it's so funny to me being in this moment and
having empathy in hindsight for Taylor Swift. Hear me out
(05:39):
there are Okay, So you know, okay, you know she
was kind of you know, lampooned for her shucks you know,
all shucks campaign every time she won an award, and
everyone's like, you should be used to it by now,
there is no version of my existence where I will
get used to people consuming things that make seeing me,
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supporting me in mass, having people who.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I look up to see my work and validate what
I do.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Each one of those instances doesn't play on my heart
and soul in a small way. They're like these mighty explosions.
And so I feel like since this press tour has started,
it's been like every day I'm like Jesus crazy, and
my publicist, you know, she's just been on this ride
with me. But it's purely authentic, and I really I
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understand now in hindsight how you might win the same
award every single year, but it feels brand new because
it's it's that little girl that didn't think that she
was going to get seen. It's that little girl that
didn't know that anyone cared what she had to say.
And she's still around and I'm treating her a lot
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better now, But I think it comes from that, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, thanks for your honesty, Natasha.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
We talk about representation a lot on this show show,
but we try to do it in a way that
is rooted in data and science, right, and we have
seen so much progress. I know that I have so
many more women in TV and film that I can
look to and feel represented by, and yet in twenty
twenty four, it still feels unique to have a show
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like this one with a lead who is a black
woman who isn't a size.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Zero or double zero or two.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
So how did you approach writing her identity as a
plus sized black woman into the story without making that
the story? Because I think that's the goal, right, It's
like this balance of being honest about identity while also
exploring the full breath of who these characters are. Absolutely,
I mean the cornerstone of Big Hattie Productions is that
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the humanity of our character begins on page one. We
refuse to do projects, produce projects, be in projects where
you're wasting page real estate to explain away my otherness,
so then my story can start.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
And for me, I wanted to have a show in
which it's not.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
About, you know, a plus sized girlie who gets bonked
in the head and figures out that the right man
was under her nose the whole time, you know what
I mean? Like, I think we're smarter than that, and
it was important for me to allow someone who looks
like me to exist and not have to make her
existence a radical act of defiance.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
She could just be.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And I think we talk a lot about self love,
but there's not There's starting to be more talk about
body neutrality and the privilege it is to have body neutrality.
It is a burden to have to walk around and
feel like you have to cheerlead the way you look.
It's false positivity that is really, I think, detrimental to
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one's health. And we don't want the negativity. We want
to be able to exist in the world where we
can just exist and we can be more than how
you perceived me. And so the show, to me was
that putting into practice the mission of my production company
and really allowing the protagonist to exist without an astisk
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by her identity.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Have you found spaces in your personal life where you
feel like you exist without the astris.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Depends on the day.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I think that it's not something that you can solve,
and because so much of it is external, but a
lot of it is internal. I mean, the truth of
the matter is is that I grew up plus size
and black and a woman, and for me, those were
things I spent a great deal of time apologizing for
and so it's a hard thing when you have a
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kind of a knee jerk reaction to triggers.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
And you know, thank fuck for therapy. My therapist is
well paid.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And one of the things that I learned is that
you know so much of this it sticks with you.
And it's about having agency in those moments, not to
stay in them and not to give them power. And
so even though I do recognize that I'm Natasha Rothwell
no asterisk, if everyone creeps up, I can easily acknowledge
it and erase it and stand tintes down in who
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I am. But it's not easy. It's a process. It's hard,
especially when you have media and external opinions about your
otherness that can kind of force the narrative. But I'm
proud of the work that I've done, and this show
is a consequence of that, for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I've been thinking a lot lately about the difference between
self love and self worth. I used to think they
were the same thing. And a good friend of mine
called me out.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
She really saw me, which sucks, don't it.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
It hurts like I like to be seen, but not
that scene you know yet exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
She said to me, You've always been so confident, but
I think you have a self worth issue.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Whoo, it's a real friend, that's a real ass friend
who will.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Say that it really is. I started digging on what
the hell the difference was. But I'm wondering if you've
explored that personally or within the show.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, personally, for sure. I think that you're worth and
worthiness it's inextricably linked. And I think feeling worthy of
love and feeling worthy of being the star of a
show that shit creeps up, you know, and it's real.
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Imposture syndrome is real, and loving something and valuing something
it's very different. I can really really love my you know,
favorite pair of earrings, but if I'm really value it,
I'm taking care of it, I'm looking after it, I'm
thinking about it, making and considering it, and making sure
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that everything that I do is in an effort to
protect that item, that things, that person's that their wholeness.
And I think that so much of what we were
taught and sometimes still being taught, is just like, oh,
just love yourself. But what does it mean when you
really think about your worth and your value? And how
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much more am I to value myself more than the
opinions of other people, and that has been a real
journey for me of triaging that priority list, you know,
not caring about what other people think and putting my
needs first and considering what my needs are. And I
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think that's the beauty of having a character like Melissa
to explore, because she's really kind of the for the
unhealed version of myself, and I really wanted to write
a character that was going through that process of trying
to heal. And it's not a straight line, you know,
it's up back, and sometimes you start at square one,
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you're all over the place, but ultimately the momentum leads
you forward. And I wanted to give people someone to
root for because that's how I got to where I am,
you know, It's being able to cheer myself on and
having my friends cheer me on as I'm fuck up
and make mistakes as I'm growing all of that.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
We have to take a quick break, but we'll be
right back with more from actor and creator of the
show How to Die Alone, Natasha Rothwell. And we're back
with Natasha Rothwell. Okay, Natasha, you started on Insecure as
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a writer and then you transition to a role in
front of the camera Kelly, who, honestly, if you read
any Reddit thread, everyone says Kelly's the funniest character on
the entire show. So you were straddling both lanes, which
I think is really rare. When you watched Asa do
her thing, What did you think about her? What did
you learn from her that you implemented now in your
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show How To Die Alone?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, I mean starting on the show as a writer,
I had blinders on. I wanted to be the best
writer possible. I wanted to prove to myself and regrettably
including others in that that I belonged in the room
because I hadn't written for television before outside of sketch,
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you know, coming from SNL. And when Lisa tapped me
to play Kelly, she in that moment saw.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Me as a creator. She didn't limit her vision of.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Me to my vision of me in that time because
I didn't even aspire to act on the show.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I was that in it.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And so one of the ways that I've chosen to
replicate that is CP Powell, who's on the show.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Of that Sean and DeShawn Duo on the tarmac.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
He's a writer in the room, and so being able
to pass the baton to someone who is so funny,
so like side splitting funny and such a just a
powerful contribution to the room and an amazing writer. I
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knew that I wanted to see him as a whole
creator and not limit him just to being on screen.
And so that's something definitely I took from Issa, is
to use the gifts that are in front of you
and not allowing other.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
People to get in their own way.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
And I think that was just very generous of her
to not allow me to get my own way and
really saw me and wanted to use me. And of
course when she did, I activated, because of course I
love to do both. You know, That's what I'm doing
with the show now, and so I'm just really grateful
for her ability to see through my bullshit and allow
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me to flourish as a creator and not just you know,
staying in one lane.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Okay, So I heard you have a frame Steve Martin
quote and it says, be so good they can't ignore you.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Why did you frame that quote?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I think primarily for me again, walking through the world
as a plus size black woman being overlooked was something
that was par for the course of having people fully
walk into me on the street because they're not looking
or not seeing myself represented on TV, and feeling like
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I had no power in this situation, that I was powerless.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And I remember coming across that quote very early on
in my time at.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
University of Maryland, and it sparked in me this agency
that I didn't know I had. Where it's just like,
I can't control other people's willingness to see me, willingness
to support me, and I don't want to exhaust myself
in trying to appease their idea of who I should
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be or live within those limitations. But I know what
I love to do, and I'm just going to do
it the best fucking way I know how, and I'm
going to invest in myself and I'm going to read
the books and take the classes. And it wasn't about
proving other people wrong. It was proving me right, being like, oh, I'm.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Good at this. I'm really fucking good at this.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So even though my existence might be something that you're
wanting to ignore or are predisposed to ignore, my talent
is going to make you sit up and take notice.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And that's it.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
That is a word that is I'm going to frame
that quote. Wait, give it to me one more time, Natasha,
be so good.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
They can't ignore you, And yeah, that's the quote, and
that's that's the one you gotta frame. But you just
got to tap into the fact that you're going to
be a bad bitch by yourself for yourself, and people
will take notice.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I have a question about that voice, the proving yourself right.
I interviewed Kevin Hart a few years ago and I
asked him, like, you know, he was finding this incredible
success that other comedians hadn't found monetarily financially, and I
was like, did you always know when you were in
Philly selling shoes?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Did you have that voice?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And he looked at me and he was like, no,
I had no idea my life was going to turn
out like this. And I didn't freaking believe him. And
I want to know if you had that voice and
have that voice still.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Here's what I've always known. I've always known I've been
called to do this work. I've always known that my
purpose is to put myself in a position of visibility
so other feel seen.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Those two I know to be true.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
This life that I currently have, I didn't know that
it would happen, and I think that's just true. But
and I understand why he said that. But I'll tell
you what I did do. When I was in New York,
broke as can be, I wrote a check to myself
in the total amount of my college debt that I
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could never cash less go to jail, and I kept
it in my wallet.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
That's how big my dreams were. My dreams were.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I just want to be able to pay off my
college debt and do what I do for a living,
and to me, that really was success. I wanted to
be able to pay my rent and do my art
and not be in debt. That was the trifecta of
my goals at the time. And so to be in
a position where I have a production company, I'm starring
in my own show, at the distinct privilege of being
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a part of some of the most iconic shows that
have been around in the last ten years, it is
so unfathomable to me that this is my life. And
I think this is where I the Taylor Swift all
Shucks sort of analogy comes in, because it just's I
feel so lucky, I feel so blessed, and.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's overwhelming to wake up every day to this life.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And yes, it's a life that I worked for and
that I've prayed for and did vision boards for and
got crystals for. But even still, it's a humbling thing.
It's a humbling thing to have a dream come true
in front of people.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It's a humbling thing.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
It's amazing how dreams will make you so well because
you need to believe in something larger. It's like otherwise
it's crazy making.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
It is crazy making, it really really is.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And like before I moved to La, I didn't know
any like I knew my birth sign, I didn't know anything.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Now a bitch got crystals.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I'm invested in the mystery of life because I can't
explain my good fortune. And I'm not gonna cry. But
I just had my premiere last night, and I took
a moment just to stare at the audience, and I
asked them for permission, just to be weird, because and
I didn't plan on doing it, but I was just
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standing there and I was about to get into the
thank yous, and I looked out and I saw the
faces of all these people that I love and have
supported me showing up for my own show, and I
was in a bit of disbelief, so I needed to
pause and take a look at it. And yeah, it's
crazy making to think that life led me to that
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moment when I just I have all of these acute
memories of the struggle and being in New York and
leaving an improv show and not having enough money on
my Metro card and picking up cards on the subway
floor just so I could get home because I had
no money in my account because I've overdrawn it because
I needed a prop for a sketch, you know what
I mean. And to go from that to last night,
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it could be crazy making if you don't acknowledge that
there's something else going on.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
De Lulu is the Sululu.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Lululu is the Sululu. I'm trying to look. I have
this beautiful beat.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm trying not to waste the face, and I'm holding
back tears, but I'm just trying to enjoy the ride.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
But yeah, I think De Lulu is the Sululu.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
We need to take another short break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
We're back with Natasha Rothwell, Natasha, we saw that you're
going to be developing an adaptation of a very wild
TikTok series that went viral earlier this year. Simone and
I watched many many clips from it. It's called Who
Who the F? Did I Marry? It's a fifty two
part series from Reesa Tisa all about her ex husband
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who was a compulsive liar or pathological liar. What did
you see in it? Why did you want to bring
this to life?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
A couple of things.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
One in February when she dropped the series, I was
in Thailand.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I was working, and I was being tagged.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
On her story like constantly on social media, and I
didn't have the time because I was working to explore
what it was. But then it popped up on my cousins,
like all the cousins in my family we have a
chat in on our phone, and I was just and
it was someone mocked up the cover of what an
adaptation would look like and had cast me in the
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part of her. And I was like, Okay, I'll go
check it out. And I watched all eight hours and
I was blown away by this act of radical vulnerability.
She did not know that this was going to turn
into what it was. She just knew that she had
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to tell her story for herself. Uninterrupted with the details
as a way to cleanse it and to get it
out of her. And when I saw that, I was
just genuinely moved. I understood why it had four hundred
and fifty million impressions and how she gained three million
TikTok followers in the span.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Of three weeks.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
People are attracted and become addicted to that vulnerability, that honesty,
and not only that, she's an amazing storyteller, and that's
a hallmark of what Big Hattie Productions like, what we
look for is centering a marginalized voice and telling a
story that we haven't heard from that specific pov.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
And it was a very intense battle to.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Get the rights because a lot of people through their
hat in the Ring, and this was a really trust
the universe moment because there are a lot of bigger.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Names than mine that tossed their hat in the ring.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
But when I sat down with her to do our
pitch of like what I was thinking about for the series,
we just connected and I let her know that as
moved as I was by her act of vulnerability and
how compelling the story was, I was more interested in
the woman telling the story, and I wanted to approach
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it from that pov of not just what happened to
you as a result of having married a pathological liar,
but what has happened to you after viral fame and
people are eating up your trauma like capital t trauma
for sport.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
And how does that affect you as a person?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And I think we just connected on that really wanting
to not just capitalize on a hot moment, but to
really use this as an opportunity to do what I
did with how to die alone and really work out
some shit and get real with some shit and have
fun with it at the same time.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
And so yeah, I'm just really grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
You seem so clear on what your production company wants
to be a part of. To me, that signals like
a very strong value system. Personally, I'm wondering what your
most deeply held belief is that guides your life's work
or guid's your life and your work.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Let me put it that way.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I operate from a place of kindness and being
nice and kind or vastly different.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
One is hollow and one is you know, substantive.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And it's not because I want something from someone. It's
because I'm operating from that place of empathy and understanding
first and grace.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
It's how I was raised.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But outside of that, it makes the most sense of
me as a person. And so I think that kindness
can sometime and be looked at as weakness, and.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I can say fuck you in a very kind.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Way, do you know what I'm saying. So don't mistaken
for weakness, but for me seeing people, meeting them where
they are, looking at them in the eye, auditing what
it is that I have and how it might be
of service to someone else, Not because I want something back,
but because it.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Feels good to do. I just.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
It's literally it's who I am, and I think the
world could use a little more of it. But yeah,
I think it's kindness can be sometimes an underrated sort
of guiding principle.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
But I think it's very important.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Natasha.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
It's been such a pleasure getting to know you a
little bit better over the course of this interview, because
of course I've only gotten to see your work on
TV and you've had me in stitches. There are three
words that come to mind when I think of you
now that we've had this conversation. Kindness, for sure, expansiveness,
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that act of taking up space. And then finally it's
this phrase that you disdropped, radical vulnerability, And I feel
like that's the title of this episode, Danielle.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I don't know, let me know.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
What a radical vulnerability because I see that in your characters,
the kind of work you want to do, what you
want to be known for.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
That seems to be the through line.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Thank you. That means a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I feel very seen by you two, and I'm just
so appreciative for this conversation. I love to chinwag about
deep things and this has been just such a treat.
And yeah, just thank you for your support for this
show and for always. It's lovely to hear and it
means everything.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Thanks for your heart, Natasha, thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Natasha Rothwell is an Emmy nominated actor and the creator
and star of Hulu's new show How to Die Alone.
She'll be reprising her role on The White Lotus in
its upcoming third season.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
That's it for today's show. Tomorrow, we're popping off with
the co host of the Talk Amanda Klutes.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Today on the bright Side, we're joined by Emmy nominated actor,
writer and producer Natasha Rothwell. Her new Hulu series How
to Dialan is out now.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I wanted to give people someone to root for because
that's how I got to where I am. You know,
It's being able to cheer myself on and having my
friends cheer me on as I'm fuck up and make
mistakes as I'm growing.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Natasha is telling us how she's ready to take center
stage and revealing the Steve Martin quote that guides her
every single day. It's Thursday, September twenty sixth I'm Danielle Robe.
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Speaker 5 (01:15):
Ay. Welcome to the party, y'all, and today's guest is
the true embodiment of inspiration and empowerment. As we mentioned,
Joining us today is actor, writer and director Natasha Rothwell.
You all know her as Kelly Prenny in the Ray
created series Insecure. Insecure did something so revolutionary. It created
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a cast of characters that felt so incredibly viscerally real,
Like we all felt like, I know these people.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I've got a Kelly in my life. Oh my god,
that's so well said.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Natasha was actually hired on Insecure as a writer and
so she didn't come to be on the cast until
later in the show, and she became a fan favorite
so quickly. She was known for like her clever comebacks,
her one liners.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
A lot of people say Kelly was the funniest character.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
We also can't forget Natasha's Emmy nominated performance as Belinda
in The White Lotus because she's set to reprise that
role in the upcoming third season of the series, which
makes her one of the only actors with a recurring
role on the show, so she's also a favorite of
that show.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
It's so funny because she was one of the most
colorful characters on Insecure, and then on The White Lotus
she plays the straight man, which is a term in
comedy to describe the person who is behaving normally when
everyone else around them is chaotic.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So I think that just speaks to her range.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I mean, she's had some truly iconic roles throughout her career,
always in a supporting role until now, because she's taking
center stage.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
In a big way.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Her new series is called How To Die Alone, and
it is out now. She created it, she executive produced it,
she starred in the show, and it follows her character Melissa,
which is quote a broke, fat JFK airport employee who's
never been in love and forgotten how to dream. But
then she has an accidental brush with death and it
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leads her to finally taking charge of her own life.
So now Natasha's here to talk to us about it all. Natasha,
welcome to the bright Side.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, we're so excited, and a huge congratulations is in
order because your new show just came out. Simone and
I both loved it, were excited to finish the season.
And you've really been a part of shows that have
shaped culture in the last few years, shows that everybody's
talking about. And now you're stepping into this major creative role.
And Simona and I were like, she's literally the main
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character now, it's so exciting. And speaking of cheering you on,
Gail King, she picked your show as a must watch
for this fall, which I.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Do not know this. No, Oh my god, we're breaking
news right now.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
This is and you're not pulling my leg? Is it serious?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Girl, it's an Oprah Daily. Wow, I did that. I
did an interview with her and she was so kind,
but I didn't know it was a I'm gonna need
the vapors in a minute.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
What I think we have to put your Google alerts
on so that you catch.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I've been so this is the busiest I've been in
my life in a way where I'm just like, because
I don't have main character energy in real life, truly,
I don't, and so having to do all of the
press for all of it, and like I just haven't
been on my phone, like I usually.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Am, and so I love that you broke this news.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I'm very excited. That means she probably told Oprah about it.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Am. I this is one step closer.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
To you are literally one degree away, half a degree.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
They talk every day.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Have you met Opri yet? Oh no, no I haven't.
My soul would leave my body.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Okay, So your soul is going to leave your body.
I give I give it literally six months, you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Meet your mouth from your mouth to God's ears. Okay.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Just because you haven't seen this article yet, I feel
like we need to read it to her, Danielle. The
headline is Gail King found the perfect solve for your
end of summer scaries. Natasha Rothwell's new series How to
Die Alone is part of Gail's September lineup.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Wow wow wow wow wow wow. Yeah that is I Yeah,
it's so funny to me being in this moment and
having empathy in hindsight for Taylor Swift. Hear me out
(05:39):
there are Okay, So you know, okay, you know she
was kind of you know, lampooned for her shucks you know,
all shucks campaign every time she won an award, and
everyone's like, you should be used to it by now,
there is no version of my existence where I will
get used to people consuming things that make seeing me,
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supporting me in mass, having people who.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I look up to see my work and validate what
I do.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Each one of those instances doesn't play on my heart
and soul in a small way. They're like these mighty explosions.
And so I feel like since this press tour has started,
it's been like every day I'm like Jesus crazy, and
my publicist, you know, she's just been on this ride
with me. But it's purely authentic, and I really I
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understand now in hindsight how you might win the same
award every single year, but it feels brand new because
it's it's that little girl that didn't think that she
was going to get seen. It's that little girl that
didn't know that anyone cared what she had to say.
And she's still around and I'm treating her a lot
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better now, But I think it comes from that, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, thanks for your honesty, Natasha.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
We talk about representation a lot on this show show,
but we try to do it in a way that
is rooted in data and science, right, and we have
seen so much progress. I know that I have so
many more women in TV and film that I can
look to and feel represented by, and yet in twenty
twenty four, it still feels unique to have a show
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like this one with a lead who is a black
woman who isn't a size.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Zero or double zero or two.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
So how did you approach writing her identity as a
plus sized black woman into the story without making that
the story? Because I think that's the goal, right, It's
like this balance of being honest about identity while also
exploring the full breath of who these characters are. Absolutely,
I mean the cornerstone of Big Hattie Productions is that
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the humanity of our character begins on page one. We
refuse to do projects, produce projects, be in projects where
you're wasting page real estate to explain away my otherness,
so then my story can start.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
And for me, I wanted to have a show in
which it's not.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
About, you know, a plus sized girlie who gets bonked
in the head and figures out that the right man
was under her nose the whole time, you know what
I mean? Like, I think we're smarter than that, and
it was important for me to allow someone who looks
like me to exist and not have to make her
existence a radical act of defiance.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
She could just be.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And I think we talk a lot about self love,
but there's not There's starting to be more talk about
body neutrality and the privilege it is to have body neutrality.
It is a burden to have to walk around and
feel like you have to cheerlead the way you look.
It's false positivity that is really, I think, detrimental to
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one's health. And we don't want the negativity. We want
to be able to exist in the world where we
can just exist and we can be more than how
you perceived me. And so the show, to me was
that putting into practice the mission of my production company
and really allowing the protagonist to exist without an astisk
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by her identity.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Have you found spaces in your personal life where you
feel like you exist without the astris.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Depends on the day.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I think that it's not something that you can solve,
and because so much of it is external, but a
lot of it is internal. I mean, the truth of
the matter is is that I grew up plus size
and black and a woman, and for me, those were
things I spent a great deal of time apologizing for
and so it's a hard thing when you have a
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kind of a knee jerk reaction to triggers.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
And you know, thank fuck for therapy. My therapist is
well paid.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And one of the things that I learned is that
you know so much of this it sticks with you.
And it's about having agency in those moments, not to
stay in them and not to give them power. And
so even though I do recognize that I'm Natasha Rothwell
no asterisk, if everyone creeps up, I can easily acknowledge
it and erase it and stand tintes down in who
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I am. But it's not easy. It's a process. It's hard,
especially when you have media and external opinions about your
otherness that can kind of force the narrative. But I'm
proud of the work that I've done, and this show
is a consequence of that, for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I've been thinking a lot lately about the difference between
self love and self worth. I used to think they
were the same thing. And a good friend of mine
called me out.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
She really saw me, which sucks, don't it.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
It hurts like I like to be seen, but not
that scene you know yet exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
She said to me, You've always been so confident, but
I think you have a self worth issue.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Whoo, it's a real friend, that's a real ass friend
who will.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Say that it really is. I started digging on what
the hell the difference was. But I'm wondering if you've
explored that personally or within the show.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, personally, for sure. I think that you're worth and
worthiness it's inextricably linked. And I think feeling worthy of
love and feeling worthy of being the star of a
show that shit creeps up, you know, and it's real.
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Imposture syndrome is real, and loving something and valuing something
it's very different. I can really really love my you know,
favorite pair of earrings, but if I'm really value it,
I'm taking care of it, I'm looking after it, I'm
thinking about it, making and considering it, and making sure
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that everything that I do is in an effort to
protect that item, that things, that person's that their wholeness.
And I think that so much of what we were
taught and sometimes still being taught, is just like, oh,
just love yourself. But what does it mean when you
really think about your worth and your value? And how
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much more am I to value myself more than the
opinions of other people, and that has been a real
journey for me of triaging that priority list, you know,
not caring about what other people think and putting my
needs first and considering what my needs are. And I
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think that's the beauty of having a character like Melissa
to explore, because she's really kind of the for the
unhealed version of myself, and I really wanted to write
a character that was going through that process of trying
to heal. And it's not a straight line, you know,
it's up back, and sometimes you start at square one,
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you're all over the place, but ultimately the momentum leads
you forward. And I wanted to give people someone to
root for because that's how I got to where I am,
you know, It's being able to cheer myself on and
having my friends cheer me on as I'm fuck up
and make mistakes as I'm growing all of that.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
We have to take a quick break, but we'll be
right back with more from actor and creator of the
show How to Die Alone, Natasha Rothwell. And we're back
with Natasha Rothwell. Okay, Natasha, you started on Insecure as
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a writer and then you transition to a role in
front of the camera Kelly, who, honestly, if you read
any Reddit thread, everyone says Kelly's the funniest character on
the entire show. So you were straddling both lanes, which
I think is really rare. When you watched Asa do
her thing, What did you think about her? What did
you learn from her that you implemented now in your
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show How To Die Alone?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, I mean starting on the show as a writer,
I had blinders on. I wanted to be the best
writer possible. I wanted to prove to myself and regrettably
including others in that that I belonged in the room
because I hadn't written for television before outside of sketch,
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you know, coming from SNL. And when Lisa tapped me
to play Kelly, she in that moment saw.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Me as a creator. She didn't limit her vision of.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Me to my vision of me in that time because
I didn't even aspire to act on the show.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I was that in it.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And so one of the ways that I've chosen to
replicate that is CP Powell, who's on the show.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Of that Sean and DeShawn Duo on the tarmac.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
He's a writer in the room, and so being able
to pass the baton to someone who is so funny,
so like side splitting funny and such a just a
powerful contribution to the room and an amazing writer. I
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knew that I wanted to see him as a whole
creator and not limit him just to being on screen.
And so that's something definitely I took from Issa, is
to use the gifts that are in front of you
and not allowing other.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
People to get in their own way.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
And I think that was just very generous of her
to not allow me to get my own way and
really saw me and wanted to use me. And of
course when she did, I activated, because of course I
love to do both. You know, That's what I'm doing
with the show now, and so I'm just really grateful
for her ability to see through my bullshit and allow
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me to flourish as a creator and not just you know,
staying in one lane.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Okay, So I heard you have a frame Steve Martin
quote and it says, be so good they can't ignore you.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Why did you frame that quote?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I think primarily for me again, walking through the world
as a plus size black woman being overlooked was something
that was par for the course of having people fully
walk into me on the street because they're not looking
or not seeing myself represented on TV, and feeling like
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I had no power in this situation, that I was powerless.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And I remember coming across that quote very early on
in my time at.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
University of Maryland, and it sparked in me this agency
that I didn't know I had. Where it's just like,
I can't control other people's willingness to see me, willingness
to support me, and I don't want to exhaust myself
in trying to appease their idea of who I should
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be or live within those limitations. But I know what
I love to do, and I'm just going to do
it the best fucking way I know how, and I'm
going to invest in myself and I'm going to read
the books and take the classes. And it wasn't about
proving other people wrong. It was proving me right, being like, oh, I'm.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Good at this. I'm really fucking good at this.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So even though my existence might be something that you're
wanting to ignore or are predisposed to ignore, my talent
is going to make you sit up and take notice.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And that's it.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
That is a word that is I'm going to frame
that quote. Wait, give it to me one more time, Natasha,
be so good.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
They can't ignore you, And yeah, that's the quote, and
that's that's the one you gotta frame. But you just
got to tap into the fact that you're going to
be a bad bitch by yourself for yourself, and people
will take notice.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I have a question about that voice, the proving yourself right.
I interviewed Kevin Hart a few years ago and I
asked him, like, you know, he was finding this incredible
success that other comedians hadn't found monetarily financially, and I
was like, did you always know when you were in
Philly selling shoes?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Did you have that voice?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And he looked at me and he was like, no,
I had no idea my life was going to turn
out like this. And I didn't freaking believe him. And
I want to know if you had that voice and
have that voice still.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Here's what I've always known. I've always known I've been
called to do this work. I've always known that my
purpose is to put myself in a position of visibility
so other feel seen.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Those two I know to be true.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
This life that I currently have, I didn't know that
it would happen, and I think that's just true. But
and I understand why he said that. But I'll tell
you what I did do. When I was in New York,
broke as can be, I wrote a check to myself
in the total amount of my college debt that I
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could never cash less go to jail, and I kept
it in my wallet.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
That's how big my dreams were. My dreams were.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I just want to be able to pay off my
college debt and do what I do for a living,
and to me, that really was success. I wanted to
be able to pay my rent and do my art
and not be in debt. That was the trifecta of
my goals at the time. And so to be in
a position where I have a production company, I'm starring
in my own show, at the distinct privilege of being
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a part of some of the most iconic shows that
have been around in the last ten years, it is
so unfathomable to me that this is my life. And
I think this is where I the Taylor Swift all
Shucks sort of analogy comes in, because it just's I
feel so lucky, I feel so blessed, and.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's overwhelming to wake up every day to this life.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And yes, it's a life that I worked for and
that I've prayed for and did vision boards for and
got crystals for. But even still, it's a humbling thing.
It's a humbling thing to have a dream come true
in front of people.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It's a humbling thing.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
It's amazing how dreams will make you so well because
you need to believe in something larger. It's like otherwise
it's crazy making.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
It is crazy making, it really really is.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And like before I moved to La, I didn't know
any like I knew my birth sign, I didn't know anything.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Now a bitch got crystals.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I'm invested in the mystery of life because I can't
explain my good fortune. And I'm not gonna cry. But
I just had my premiere last night, and I took
a moment just to stare at the audience, and I
asked them for permission, just to be weird, because and
I didn't plan on doing it, but I was just
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standing there and I was about to get into the
thank yous, and I looked out and I saw the
faces of all these people that I love and have
supported me showing up for my own show, and I
was in a bit of disbelief, so I needed to
pause and take a look at it. And yeah, it's
crazy making to think that life led me to that
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moment when I just I have all of these acute
memories of the struggle and being in New York and
leaving an improv show and not having enough money on
my Metro card and picking up cards on the subway
floor just so I could get home because I had
no money in my account because I've overdrawn it because
I needed a prop for a sketch, you know what
I mean. And to go from that to last night,
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it could be crazy making if you don't acknowledge that
there's something else going on.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
De Lulu is the Sululu.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Lululu is the Sululu. I'm trying to look. I have
this beautiful beat.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm trying not to waste the face, and I'm holding
back tears, but I'm just trying to enjoy the ride.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
But yeah, I think De Lulu is the Sululu.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
We need to take another short break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
We're back with Natasha Rothwell, Natasha, we saw that you're
going to be developing an adaptation of a very wild
TikTok series that went viral earlier this year. Simone and
I watched many many clips from it. It's called Who
Who the F? Did I Marry? It's a fifty two
part series from Reesa Tisa all about her ex husband
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who was a compulsive liar or pathological liar. What did
you see in it? Why did you want to bring
this to life?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
A couple of things.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
One in February when she dropped the series, I was
in Thailand.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I was working, and I was being tagged.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
On her story like constantly on social media, and I
didn't have the time because I was working to explore
what it was. But then it popped up on my cousins,
like all the cousins in my family we have a
chat in on our phone, and I was just and
it was someone mocked up the cover of what an
adaptation would look like and had cast me in the
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part of her. And I was like, Okay, I'll go
check it out. And I watched all eight hours and
I was blown away by this act of radical vulnerability.
She did not know that this was going to turn
into what it was. She just knew that she had
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to tell her story for herself. Uninterrupted with the details
as a way to cleanse it and to get it
out of her. And when I saw that, I was
just genuinely moved. I understood why it had four hundred
and fifty million impressions and how she gained three million
TikTok followers in the span.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Of three weeks.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
People are attracted and become addicted to that vulnerability, that honesty,
and not only that, she's an amazing storyteller, and that's
a hallmark of what Big Hattie Productions like, what we
look for is centering a marginalized voice and telling a
story that we haven't heard from that specific pov.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
And it was a very intense battle to.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Get the rights because a lot of people through their
hat in the Ring, and this was a really trust
the universe moment because there are a lot of bigger.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Names than mine that tossed their hat in the ring.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
But when I sat down with her to do our
pitch of like what I was thinking about for the series,
we just connected and I let her know that as
moved as I was by her act of vulnerability and
how compelling the story was, I was more interested in
the woman telling the story, and I wanted to approach
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it from that pov of not just what happened to
you as a result of having married a pathological liar,
but what has happened to you after viral fame and
people are eating up your trauma like capital t trauma
for sport.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
And how does that affect you as a person?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And I think we just connected on that really wanting
to not just capitalize on a hot moment, but to
really use this as an opportunity to do what I
did with how to die alone and really work out
some shit and get real with some shit and have
fun with it at the same time.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
And so yeah, I'm just really grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
You seem so clear on what your production company wants
to be a part of. To me, that signals like
a very strong value system. Personally, I'm wondering what your
most deeply held belief is that guides your life's work
or guid's your life and your work.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Let me put it that way.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I operate from a place of kindness and being
nice and kind or vastly different.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
One is hollow and one is you know, substantive.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And it's not because I want something from someone. It's
because I'm operating from that place of empathy and understanding
first and grace.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
It's how I was raised.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But outside of that, it makes the most sense of
me as a person. And so I think that kindness
can sometime and be looked at as weakness, and.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I can say fuck you in a very kind.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Way, do you know what I'm saying. So don't mistaken
for weakness, but for me seeing people, meeting them where
they are, looking at them in the eye, auditing what
it is that I have and how it might be
of service to someone else, Not because I want something back,
but because it.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Feels good to do. I just.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
It's literally it's who I am, and I think the
world could use a little more of it. But yeah,
I think it's kindness can be sometimes an underrated sort
of guiding principle.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
But I think it's very important.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Natasha.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
It's been such a pleasure getting to know you a
little bit better over the course of this interview, because
of course I've only gotten to see your work on
TV and you've had me in stitches. There are three
words that come to mind when I think of you
now that we've had this conversation. Kindness, for sure, expansiveness,
(28:08):
that act of taking up space. And then finally it's
this phrase that you disdropped, radical vulnerability, And I feel
like that's the title of this episode, Danielle.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I don't know, let me know.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
What a radical vulnerability because I see that in your characters,
the kind of work you want to do, what you
want to be known for.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
That seems to be the through line.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Thank you. That means a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I feel very seen by you two, and I'm just
so appreciative for this conversation. I love to chinwag about
deep things and this has been just such a treat.
And yeah, just thank you for your support for this
show and for always. It's lovely to hear and it
means everything.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Thanks for your heart, Natasha, thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Natasha Rothwell is an Emmy nominated actor and the creator
and star of Hulu's new show How to Die Alone.
She'll be reprising her role on The White Lotus in
its upcoming third season.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
That's it for today's show. Tomorrow, we're popping off with
the co host of the Talk Amanda Klutes.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
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Speaker 5 (29:29):
You tomorrow, folks, Keep looking on the bright side,
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