October 1, 2021 • 50 mins
Carlos talks to American actress Logan Browning about how she first got involved in acting, her experience starring in the Netflix series Dear White People and her journey with meditation.
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Logan Brownie grew up in Atlanta, Georgia, and moved to
Los Angeles to pursue her acting career at fourteen years old.
After booking her first acting gig, she has continued to
appear on the big screen, like in the teen series Summerland,
v H one's Hit the Floor, and the Netflix series
Dear White People. On this episode of The Carlos Watson
Show podcast, Logan Brownie reflects on how she first got
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involved in acting, her experience starting in the Netflix series
Dear White People, and her journey with meditation on my
own no longer. You are no longer on your own,
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but you are a good singer. So, uh is that
your shower song? Or what is your shower song? What
is my showers song? Honestly, I just think a lot
in the shower, Like I think about I think about
a lot of things, and then I'm like, I need
to get out of the shower and go write that down.
What's your shower song? What is my shower song? I'm
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probably too embarrassed to tell you my shower song. It's
the truth. Unto embarrassed, like a Nicki Minage CARDI B
you know what cardis my girl. I like her. She's
she's bud, she's alive, She's good on the stage of boat,
good on the stage. I like the boat. It's uh,
who's your who's your favorite singer? Who? If I was
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throwing a concert for you, who would I have performed? Well,
I'm actually going to see Erica Badoo at the Hollywood
Bowl um in l A. So, I mean, she's not
my favorite performer, but she's gonna be my first paid
concert that I go to post pandemic. Have you been
Have you seen her before? We'll this she the first time.
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I don't Yeah, I don't think that's I think I
would remember if I say, yeah, I haven't seen her
at No. You know, she's one of those ones who
I kind of miss, like I wish she was around more.
I feel like she kind of disappeared for most of
the last fifteen years. She kind of like lives her
life like she kind of has this this like I
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don't know how if she's one daughter more than one daughter,
but she I think, just has this beautiful family and
like a beautiful like she has a garden and she
grows her own vegetables and lettuce, and she has videos
on the Internet where she's like picking her lettuce and cleaning.
I'm like, this is the content that I for. So
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I love that. I love that. I love. Now are
you a green thumb? Are you a are you a chef?
Any of that? Well? I I do a green thumb.
I have my snake plant here. Um. Uh. Yeah, my
mom and my brother are both vegans, so um, holidays
have to be mostly vegan menu. Um. And I'd say
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they're both pretty good vegans because a lot of vegans,
you know, end up just only eating carbs, not really
healthy foods. But yeah, they're both really good chefs. And uh,
I kind of learned from them a little bit. And
how did they become vegan? And are you guys from
Los Angeles? So where you guys from? Uh? They were
from Georgia. Um, and they became when my brother became vegan.
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First it was, um, when my dad got sick. My
dad ended up getting colon cancer or prostate cancer, and um,
he when he passed. I think my brother decided. I
think my brother also watched What the Health or something
like that, and then he just decided to make that
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lifestyle change. Um, because my dad had you know, very
like regular eating habits like the rest of us, and
you know, smoke cigars and drank and all these things.
So when my brother became vegan, my mom did it
to support him. I did it to support him. But
then what had happened? I was gonna wait, because you
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didn't introduce yourself as a vegan, brother and father as vegan.
But you didn't. You didn't take the crown for yourself. Okay, yeah,
I try, I try. I did try. Um. I just
at the time, I was on a show that was
very like physically demanding, and I needed protein at the time.
But I'm kind of I'm for the most part, I
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feel like I'm pest caterian maybe. Okay, okay, okay, but
now what about your cooking skills? What? What do we know?
Anything special there? Are you? Are you just a terrific eater.
I'm a pretty good baker. My great great grandma May
made this incredible pound cake. And you know, in her day,
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she didn't have a stand mixer, and she would sift
out all the ingredients and separate them into six and
each of those six ingredients are like the sixth of
the ingredients would go in at a time, and then
you have to stir until it was gone, and then
the next one and it was like a one to
three hour process and then has to make for an hour.
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That's baking and baking that specifically, it's kind of my
pride enjoy it. But I started doing it when I
was a teenager. I took over that family recipe, and
my family every Christmas, they're like pound cake logan okay, yeah, okay,
I like that, and then you put ice cream with it,
you heat it up to you, you surround it in
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love or no. Yeah, you know it's it's the most
simple pound cake. It's only got vanilla extract. It's got
a really thick, like dark, darker brown crust, so the
outside is like hard and crunchy and the inside is
very like soft. It's moist, it's got that vanilla and
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it's just so good. And yeah, you put your vanilla
ice cream on on holidays, I will say, maybe maybe
my whole family is not vegan. Okay, you know what
that's okay, I like that. I like the little holiday vacation. Um.
I was quietly the family cook growing up. I was
never the baker, though my youngest sister was the baker
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and key line pie was her specialty instead of pound cake.
But pound cakes is not a bad option. That's a
good option. Chef for you, what kind of chef was?
I apparently people don't it. Uh, But just like these
former vegans drift towards that's gutariut, I drifted it towards
consumer Um. You know what I made? All sorts of
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thing I made, uh, certain kinds of chicken. We did skirts,
seak we I guess we were meat eaters, lamb um.
My sisters were little at the time, and they saw
something on TV once about short ordered cooks and they
really liked that. So they used to leave me little notes,
but kind of what they wanted and so uh and
so we we came up with all sorts of things
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depending on what they were hungry for. So we had
lots of lots of good things. I love that you
sound very close to your family. I love that. Yeah,
but will your brother. I've now heard you bring up
your brother a couple of times. Since are you guys
close in age or where are you guys? Yeah? My um,
I have three brothers. My younger one is the one
I'm closest to, age two. We're thirteen months apart. And
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then I have two older brothers and the one that's
right about me, we're thirteen years apart. So nice. Yeah,
it is a lot of different age gaps. Uh. But yeah,
I got three brothers and they mean the world to me.
I'm the only girl. My dad would say, you know,
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I'm your opposite because you're the only boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's a good deal. It's a good deal. It's a
good deal. Did they take good care of you where
they take good care of you and vice versa. Yes,
So my older two brothers, my the one right above me. Um,
when my dad went to uh, desert storm, he was
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still that. My my brother was thirteen to he was
still in the house, so he took care of me
and my little brother when we were babies. He helped
my mom out. Um. And then when I was fifth teen,
I was living in l A. I had been living
with my godfather and he got sick and my brother
was in his early twenties and became my guardian in
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l A. So I could stay out here at fifteen
and pursue acting. And that was like I mean, he
was he had just graduated Howard, he was working managing
a hard rock in d C. He was like he
had a wonderful girlfriend. He was living the life and
like picked up came to l A and was I mean, sorry, godfather,
he was a better, a better guardian than my godfather was.
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Like he just naturally was a perfect guard you know.
Because the thing is you gotta when when you have
a fifteen year old girl child really like, you have
to stimulate them. You can't just let them watch TV.
Like you have to take them to music UM's and
take them to the movies and take them to do
things you know, I need. That's so funny, did you
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say it? So? I have a niece and nephew, and
years ago they came to stay with me and they're
separated by twelve years. I think he said thirty years
by twelve years. So they came to my little nephew
I think was two or three and my niece was
about fifteen, and I thought I was being the great
uncle and I thought it was giving them lots of
time and they could do any big And about two
days and she said we need to have a talk.
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She said, first of all, we need to have a structure.
We can't just eat it any old time and you
can't keep taking us the big Donalds. I thought I
was doing something great. It's like, no, that's not great,
that's not okay, Like somebody's gotta rustled better. So, you know,
fifteen year old sometimes canna stimulate you to be your
best self. So, um, you did that for your brother. Honestly,
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I think I did because my brother used to say
that he, you know, wasn't really someone who wanted kids,
and I reminded him. He said this a couple of
years ago. I reminded him that he already had had one.
I was like, you know, you raised a fifteen year
old girl like that is the test. That is the test.
And now he has um to he is twins. He
has one year old twins. Oh nice girls? Boys? Oh nice? Okay, okay,
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good well he he got plenty of plenty of good practice.
Said that that is that was He still in Los Angeles.
Does he get to see you a lot? Yeah, he's
still in l A. And actually my oldest brother, um
just moved back to l moved to l A. My
oldest brother went to college in California and now he's
back in l A. Too. So I have two brothers
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in l a and my nephew. I have a lot
of family out here now. All of a sudden, you
were magnet. You drew, you drew people to A to
a good place. Do you like l A? Do you
like living in l A? I? I don't have any
complaints really. Um. I think it's a beautiful city. I
think it's the thing that I love about it is
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that it has everything to offer. I mean, I want
to go hiking, if I want to go to the beach,
I want to go some to the mountains and be cold,
whatever cuisine I want, Like, if I want to be
in the city, anything I want is like is very
close proximity to me. Um, I find that really liberating.
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It feels like it kind of feels like quintessential America,
like where you can just go wherever you want to go,
Like the idea of it is here to me. Yeah. Yeah,
I like l An. That's where my niece and nephew
live and uh and my sister, my brother in law.
We're kind of your bird bank Mission Hills if you
know where Mission Hills is. Yeah, and uh. And that's
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so funny the way you describe it. You describe l
A like somebody from the Department of Tourism, like really positively.
Uh yeah, we do scare it. So I'm sure they're
where they were watching and appreciate it, which is good board.
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So how did you get into acting? Like, I'm always
curious when I hear people got in early? Were you
like a six seven eight year old? You were like,
I want to be on TV? I like, what's happening there?
Like how did that? How did it happen? Yeah? Just
like that, Um, I I was My mom had me
in ballet when I was really small. Um, and I
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really liked performing. Me and my little brother, we liked performing.
We were I mean, I feel like most kids did.
Like you know, everyone was on their fire in front
of the fireplace, putting on performances for family. Like that's
just like a write of passage. As a child, I think, um,
and my mom had us modeling. I was in a
commercial when I was young, and then um my mom
had actually put me into like a modeling and acting school.
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But she did it to make me more fine, so
she says, I think, uh, maybe more lady. Like you know,
I grew up ground boys. All my cousins are boys,
like I just I thought I was one of them,
you know, and uh so I and it was great
because basically she just exposed me to like these other
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young women who you know, we were all learning about
like grooming and think it was really like a very
helpful experience. Um. And then there was a competition that
we went to that was in l A. And the
competition had agents as the judges, and then I met
one of them and then they were like, if you're serious,
you should move out to l A. It's pilot season.
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I'm like, what is a pilot season? Because I was fourteen?
And then we just did it like a month. It
wasn't That was in January, um of two thousand four,
and a month later, Uh, me and my mom got
on a plane and moved to Pasadena. Wow yeah Wow?
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Did you did you feel like it was gonna happen?
Or it was like it was a dream and even
if it didn't fully happen, like who gets to do that?
And that you were just looking forward to it. Uh.
You know, my parents asked me, they were like do
you want to do this? Like do you want to
move towle? And I felt like I had to say
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yes for every fourteen year old, like girl on the planet.
I was just like, yeah, who, Like I mean, I
was very very privileged, Like that is a huge blessing
and privileged for your parents to offer that to you.
I feel like most most parents also was a really
good kid. But I think most parents probably wouldn't trust
their fourteen year old girl to just go because, like
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I said, I was going to be living with my godfather,
I was leaving home. I was going to be homeschooling
and in this completely new town that Hollywood. You know,
Hollywood always had this kind of like, oh be careful,
it's Hollywood about it. And I just I came out
here and within the first month, I booked a job
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and started working. Wow, that's kind of uh. I agree
with you. For every fourteen year old, that's kind of
like not a bad We know, who are your parents,
because that is a certain mindset and a certain openness, Um,
Like who are Like I know your dad tasks, but
like were they in media? Were they in um, you know,
television or movies of some sort or what did they do?
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Who were they were open to do it? This? I
think my parents are just hippies at heart. Um, But
my dad was a dentist. Um. He's a very prominent
dentist in Atlanta. He had his own practice. Um, and
my mom has been a lot of things. Um, she's
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in essence, I would call her an am album between
a businesswoman, entrepreneur, and an event planner. That's kind of
her world. She has done all of those things. Um.
And we come from like my mom's side of the family,
like our entrepreneurs. I don't know. I mean, I think
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both of them left home for college, you know, when
they were younger. Um, they all I mean they would
they would send me and my brother away to camp
for two weeks at a time. We used to go
to camp for a month at a time, and we
we always traveled. My parents just never wanted us to
feel like we were stuck anywhere, and like they just
kind of always encouraged this idea that the world is
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out there for the taking, that it's to be explored. Um,
and to not be afraid, you know. I mean, I
think that's the other thing. I think a lot of
fourteen year old kids would be afraid to leave home
and go to this new strange place through this new
strange career. You know, I'm didn't I knew my godfather
but I never lived with him before, you know, And
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I was just like, I'm kind of a flow kind
of person. So I was like, okay, and do you
like la I live in the Bay Area and uh,
like I said, I've come down sometimes to see family.
But do you enjoy it? Is that l A? You said,
l A? I guess you you said you take advantage
of all of it. Yeah, yeah, l A is Georgia
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will always always be my home. UM. And I think
that you know, in l A. I don't have a
large of a of a circle like I keep a
very close tight knit circle in l A. UM. But
actors or no mainly actors, they are actually are the
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most part actors or started off as actors and then
segued into you know, other professions. UM. And I also, yeah,
I I do kind of keep my friends from my
different uh jobs that I've I've worked on. You you're
excited about being a producer director? Uh at some point?
Is that A? Yeah? Yes? Know I, UM, when I
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was younger, I used to or I've looked at photos
from when I was younger, and I actually used to
have this little, this little digital super eight camera and
it was it was an American Girl product they sold.
When I was a kid, and um, I used to
make little movies. It was my parents had got me
a PC and I would record little digital movies and
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and make you know, make them on my little PC.
And when I look back at those photos as an adult,
I think, oh, oh wow, like you, you came into
this industry as an actor. But what if your little
self really wanted to be a filmmaker. And what if,
like an actor is in proximity to that, But what
if you're what if that's really what she wanted? Because
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that's the you know, ever since I was a kid,
the person on set who I am the most drawn to, well,
really it's it's all of the departments. I've always been
drawn to, like each of the departments on a set.
But you know, directors are the captain of the ship,
and how they are is really how the tone of
the set will be. And so yeah, that's kind of
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Are are you a basketball player at all? I had
a basketball who growing up? Could I play? Now? Probably? Not? Okay, Okay,
it's funny. Something you were just saying about the captain
of it reminded me of some point guards. I don't
know if you're a basketball fan, but reminded me of
the people who are off being kind of the captain
on the basketball play. And you said it in a
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way of really natural point guards love to be in charge,
love to come to a set and kind of figure
out who should do what and move people around. And
I got the feeling that you might you might really
enjoy that. Are you telling me that maybe I should
go be a point guard instead of a director? You know,
it depends on how much type and how much speak
we have follow you. I'm really sure I'm fine too.
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I don't think they're I don't think I'm gonna make
it to the w b A anytime soon. Yeah, you
know what, you never know. I have a good friend
from Vietnam who always reminds me when I'd say, if
I astar, are you tall? Just depends on where in
the world I am and somebody like I've got good
height in other parts of the world. You know, I'm
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not going to be at the w n b A,
So uh, I say, it depends on what event I'm
out of, which you i'm wearing, you know, and maybe
I'm in a platform. You never know. We wait, now,
what's the tallest shoe you have. How many inches have
you done before? Oh? Well, I mean I don't. Well
maybe like a like an eight inch platform elevating eight inches.
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I want to show and tell if you got it nearby.
I want to see a you know what? You know what?
I know where? Back? I do know where? There's eight inches?
All right, I'm getting the HI receiving. So what do
you have there? Do you have a dog? You have
a cat? What do you Yeah? Yeah, I'm actually just
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stopping of myself. I have two names for myself. Yea,
this is my dog. Let me wrestle. Put me. I
know you're like, oh, you don't want to have to
respect his boundaries. He doesn't always maybe later, okay, but
I do have the shoe. So this I have this guy,
This isn't the tallest shoe I've worn. This is actually
not as tall. But this is also an Alexander McQueen
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vintage hell that I snubbed. Can you move in that shoe?
Can you like really move or are you like, yeah,
things going on when you're in that shoe? No? Like
a platform bam. A platform is so umful to walk
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in because it's like it's this this elevation right here
makes it very comfortable. Okay, okay, Oh, so I'm not
gonna get the CD eight insurer is it? I'll see
it another day even less you have a five, I
think it. Let's see. Yeah, okay, Now, I don't know
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how my measurings take so I'm not sure if this
is an inshoes, but this I have this guy. Wow,
it was a lot taller, but they're kind of they're
kind of the same. Yeah, are no are you? Are
you a shoe junkie? Are you? Okay? Yes, clearly. Yeah.
I love love, love love shoes, love fashion, love shoes.
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Are you? Um? I am not. But I've had a
friend described herself as an art collector. She's got lots
of shoes from all over the globe, and I think
that's an interesting way to think about it. So I
respect people like him that much and who take care
of them, you know, like this, I mean both of these,
and they have story to tell. A lot of my
clothes are actually hand me downs from my mom or
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from friends. Um, And like I said, these are these
are vantage So I got these that it can assignment shop.
I have no idea who wore them before. But Alexander
McLean is legend, and I got them for not a
lot of money. And then these, you know, I wore
them so much that uh I broke the side of it,
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but I took it to the shoe repair shop and
got it fixed. It's like when you love us shoe
that much and you have a history with it and
you can remember where you bore it, and like, you know,
they they are part of you now, granted their things
and at the end of the day, you're not your things.
But if you can, you know, develop that that genuine
relationship to the things in your life, then you take
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care of them more. They're reflective of how you are
with people, with yourself, you know, like if you come
home and you're just throwing things around, which I obviously
am guilty of, but like if you are throwing things around,
you're gonna start treating yourself and other people like that.
It's your relationship to the world. You know. I loved that.
Uh I love that you have found all that good
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stuff that I loved. It almost sounds like books. They
used to do all those great movies about bookstores and
uh uh you know kind of the history behind certain
books and who owned them and what stories passed between
the people who who enjoyed them. So I like that, Um,
talk to me about Dear White People. Uh for a second,
have you enjoyed that? You have four seasons? Is that right? Yeah?
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Four seasons? Yeah? Do you enjoy that? I mean, I
know it's some level you do, but I guess I'm
asking almost at an even heightened level, like does it
bring you joy still in season four? To be a
part of it and to do it absolutely? Um? You
know this show, well, Dear White People was a film
first justin Simmy and made this film, and I remember
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when it came out. I thought, now, why on earth
would someone make a movie and call it Dear White People? Why?
Why would they do that? And I was like, I'm
not I'm not going this is foolish. I am not
going to see this and then cast me off. Mine
was like, Halogan, I'm going to this screening. They actually
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shot this movie? Um where I'm from? Because if they
shot it in um, cold city, cold city, Uh above me?
Why can't I think of this city? Salt Lake City,
Vancouver lower than Vancouver, not Canada. Um uh Seattle, Portland's
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not Portland's Oh wow, this is so strange that I've
completely forgotten where they filmed George Floyd where what state wasis? Yes, yes, Minnesota, Yeah, Minneapolis.
Oh interesting, what an interesting choice, you know, I had
justin on the show. I don't even know if we
talked about that. We should have oh yeah yeah yeah.
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So I don't know if it was Minneapolis specifically, but
I know it's Minnesota because where she my castmate, was from,
and that's and she was like, I'm going to see
this screening because it was shot in my town, the
town I'm from, and went and it was your white people,
and I loved it. It's like it is literally the
same thing that anyone who's ever watched the show, how
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it happens to them. They like, they're like, why like
this title, you know, silly title, racist title, whatever people
want to say, And then you watch it and you're like, oh, okay,
have you changed over the four seasons? Like even as
an actor, have you changed? Very much? Absolutely? Absolutely, I've
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changed as an actor. I've changed as a person. I
guess I should say I've evolved, Um have experienced. I've evolved.
I've been on a journey. Um, you know, I've had
things I've endured things, whether it's through getting these scripts
and then showing up and performing them and then feeling
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very visceral because of their subject matter, or um, you know,
dealing with real life trolls, real life people who would
rather not seem here shining living um too. Uh, you know,
having to unpack my own life for the world, you know, um,
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and dissecting myself as as well as dissecting Sam. Uh.
It's a lot has definitely been been five It's really
been five years of um of joys, of of pain,
and fear of excellence. Um. It honestly feels like I
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had a collegiate experience within your white people, you know,
like a lot of those things happen in your your
collegiate experience. And uh yeah, And what is it preparing
you to do? Do you think? Not that it has to,
but but when I hear you say collegiate, and and
I can tell in the ways in which it's allowed
you to grow and push and change and try things,
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and as you said, even feel things, you know, feel
the emotion of it. Do you feel like it's preparing
you for something special? Is there something you would love
to consider doing next? Or down the road. Yeah. I
mean I think I believe that every every job I
have is death has set me up. Every experience I've
had has set me up for the next thing. And
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so I think I truly can't know what comes next,
but I do know that this journey, this show has
made me much more compassionate, much more present, much more
um it's maybe more thoughtful. It's it's um, it's it's
made me. It's forced me into seeking therapy, seeking, you know,
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meditative practices. Um, it's it is, it is pushed me into, Yeah,
just a different part of my womanhood. Like I couldn't
have I couldn't have imagined that. And so what comes next?
You know? Who? Who? I have? No, I have no idea.
I really like that when you said push you in
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a different part of your womanhood? What part of your
womanhood do you feel like you're in now? Because you're
making making me wonder? Have you correct? But where I am?
And where should I push myself? Like that was actually
a very interesting way you put it. We're where do
you think you are in your womanhood? I feel like
I'm I'm at a place of I'm just I'm at
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a place of I listen more, I I accept more,
I allow more. Um, I think I'm not I'm not fighting.
I think I'm not like fighting fighting anymore, like fighting
myself fighting other people fighting. Um, what happens in my life?
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I think I've you know what it is. I was
talking in circles, but I there's a guru who I
sometimes meditate under, and you know, he used to ay
this when we would talk about the purpose of life
and having purpose in life. He would say this thing
that I thought was so controversial. Most people would think
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it's controversial, but I've sat with it since then, and
it's that, you know, he would say, you know, life
has no purpose. The purpose, life is the purpose. And
I'm like, no, you can't say that. You can't say
life has no purpose like that's He's like, oh, I'm
saying that. I'm saying that life is the purpose, like
just to live and to be is the purpose. And
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that becomes, you know, very complicated, because then you have
to look at us as humans and in order for
us to go from one day to the next, we
have to wake up with a will to live and
and something to seek, you know, and do we have
to have a but to find we actually have to
find um purpose in our lives. But I think I'm
in a place in my life where I'm able to
understand and balance what it means for my purpose in
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this world to just be the It's like it's a
it's a relief to be like my purpose is literally
just to be here. However, I can live each day purposefully.
I can choose passion, choose service, choose you know, things
like compassion and things like that to guide me. But
it's just a relief to not feel like I have
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to achieve something by a date. You know, did you
did you used to feel like that? Did you pre
this show? Did you have that sense of I don't
even know what the right phrasing is and the right
framing is, but a sense that I, like I need
to be doing this in this way and this speed
and achieving things by this time. I would be shocked
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at most people didn't feel like that. I mean, I
grew up in the church and like I remember, you know,
one of the books we read was was it Rick
Warren's a purpose driven life? And I think as a kid,
I got I didn't understand the difference between like, you know,
having purpose and like m and having a purpose to
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be here. And I think that a lot of people
find themselves. I mean, we all end up in dark
places at different times in our lives because of different
things and what we deal with. But I think that
that's what gets so confusing when you're in that that
like kind of I call it the dark room. I
kind of referenced it like a like a photographer would film,
because everyone sometimes has to go into the dark room
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and it need you need time to develop to see
the full picture sometimes and if you stay out and
if you stay out too much, if you if you
don't take that moment to go into the dark room,
then you just stay underdeveloped and exposed, and then then
you then you never become So you know, whenever I'm
in going into like a you know, having a moment
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in my dark room, now I am able to do
I'm able to have that difference of like of never
questioning that I'm supposed to be here. And so yeah,
I I really would be surprised if have you ever
have you not? Have you ever felt like that growing up?
Like as I don't know how you feel about it now,
but like how do you associate purpose and passion and
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all of those things those words. Um, well, it's centraally.
As I hear you talk about it, you clearly have
thought about it in some ways, even more than I have,
and more differently. And even as I hear you talk
about a guru, it sounds like you also have had
the advantage of being in conversation about it with someone
who's also being thoughtful about it. Um. I have, um,
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And I mean clearly, I think we all do. What
would I say to that? Have I thought about my purpose? Um?
Maybe not in exactly the way that you were saying.
I think I've thought about things that I would love
to do. Um. I thought about my fundamental appreciation for
being alive or being healthy. As an example, I had
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a very bad car accident when I was a kid.
They thought I wasn't gonna walk again, and so I
probably have a greater appreciation every day even just walking,
or if I get to play basketball reduced. I think
it probably brings me a greater level of joy uh
than than otherwise. Um Um. But but I probably that's
entering the way you describe a dark room. I might
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want my dark room to be in Hawaii. That's fine,
darker n place I was gonna say there may be
some light coming in, but yes, I understand your point,
and I could. I probably could. Uh I could use
that and would enjoy it and we would get really
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good joy out of it. I'm someone who also I
think part of my you called it dark room, part
of my thinking space or my feeling space or what
have you, also sometimes lives in pages and so whether
that's people would call it journaling, but it's not exactly
or writing on a white board and kind of thinking
out loud. I think, I think, are you saying you
do that too? I literally and like, can I show
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you this one I have? I have three white boards.
I'm like, look's not this one. I can't show you
this one, but I have three, I literally have. I
have a big one and I have a little one
that I have one to just to get things out.
I get that. Yeah, yeah, it does something good for
you to kind of put it out there and let
people kind of really see that, uh in that in
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that really really good way, which I uh yeah, I enjoy. Yeah,
I definitely enjoy. Did I hear that you teach meditation
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at schools? Uh? Yeah, So I don't necessarily teach. I
don't necessarily teach meditation in schools, but I did take
my teacher training uh in meditation so that I could
go back to the schools to where I'm from and
talk about meditation and how we can um put it
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in our schools. Because there are some there's some really
cool elementary middle schools in Maryland I think, who are
already implementing this kind of programming where they don't have detention.
They have like yoga rooms and quiet rooms and meditation rooms,
which I mean, this is what grown adults have. You
walk into any text base and they have quiet rooms,
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So why not have those for kids? Like? You know,
why are adults the only ones that need quiet and
taking time to walk away from the rest of your
co workers? Like don't you think kids need that too?
Do you know? I really I like that. I love
that creativity. I love that possibility. I definitely was a
kid who would have benefited from uh from that. I
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definitely would have benefited from that. It's not a it's
not a punishment, you know, it's a it's a it's
it's an opportunity. And that's why I wanted what I
love that those these schools and these public schools in
Maryland are doing um is they but they have someone
who you know, if you're for whatever reason, a child,
a student is acting out in class, they go to
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this room and they'll learn yoga exercises and breathings and
breathing practices and UM. And these kids you can look up.
These internets are all I mean, these interviews are all
over the internet, and these kids will very eloquently share
how this has affected them and that this is exactly
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what they needed in that. You know, they'll they'll tell
a story about how like, yeah, you know, um, this whatever,
this happened at home and it just made me really anxious.
And then I came here and then I you know,
I was doing this in class, but once I came
to UM the meditation room, I feel really better. After
just stretching and breathing, I feel much more calm. Duh,
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like thank you. Everyone deserves this. I really I well,
I'm the son of teachers, grandson of teachers, and I
really I like that sense of creativity. And I've had
a chance to travel and m one of my fun
things I love to do. What I've traveled the world
is I love to see what their schools are like.
And you know, they have these interesting schools and parts
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of Italy in parts of Singapore where they believe that
music is the key and that you can learn your
letters better, you can learn history better, you can learn
reading better, map better if you mix it with music.
That add music and things can go better. Um. But
some of these other thoughts like that as you're describing them,
I remember meeting a wonderful psychologist in India, and now
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that I think about it, she had some of this
thinking as well to um about you know, schools filled
with opportunities and kind of thinking about your full self
and kind of your different needs and uh, and she
she approached it. And I'm not gonna trying to remember
the name of the program she called it, but she
approached it very much in terms of opportunities as you're
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talking about, which I really like. I need imagine. Okay,
I'm imagining being a student in a classroom and for
whatever reason and my personal life, I am being disruptive
and it's now not only making my teacher upset, making
my classmates distracted, and then my to teach. My teacher
decides to send me to a detention room where I
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am I am being punished. I am not, you know,
being nurtured. And now I'm angry and I'm embarrassed and
I'm hurt and I'm scared. And then I'm supposed to
eventually go back into this class and somehow be better.
Now what if I was that same desructive kid, and
then I went into a room and someone welcomed me
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and said, hey, you you know, having a good day, Let's,
you know, talk about it. Do you want to let's
you know, do some breathing exercises, you want to stretch,
you want to jump? Do you want to sing? You
want to dance? Whatever this is? And you know, but
specifically the meditative facts is specifically the paniama's, the breathwork,
the the you know, the just stretching your body. And
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when that that student, when me, the disruptive student, when
I go back into my class, I feel relaxed, I
feel refreshed, I feel calmed. I feel maybe a bit remorseful,
a bit maybe still embarrassed, but better for it. And
and you know, ready to be a part and do
my part and give to this, you know, our little
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mini society or a little mini classroom. And I feel
like it builds compassion in kids, you know, just to
have that, have someone, have someone love on you, like
instead of instead of saying you're not fitting into a box,
so we're going to put you in a box. That's
not right. Yeah, that's so nice that you say that.
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So I, um, when I gotten a lot of trouble
early on as a student, and in those days, they
would kick you out of class. And so my mom
used to tell the stories that she said that not
only would they kick you out, it's crazy to think about,
but for a five year old, they would have me
stand on the side of the road and wait for
her to come pick me up, hugging a flagpole. Absolutely crazy, insane.
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But she said she used to show up, and you know,
she used to say, come here, boy, you need a hug.
And to your point about how you approach someone who
is struggling or clearly is not currently well situated is
such a powerful thing. And the ability to kind of
refill people backed up with goodness or love on them,
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as you said, I think, is a special talent. That um,
that also would be a good class and in addition
to meditation, to be a good class about how to
share love and show love probably would be uh, probably
be a good thing. Um warm. I just love that
your mom did that. Whereas like, I mean, I love
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my parents. My parents gave me a lot love, but
if I got in trouble, I was just in trouble.
Do you know what she was? I used to tell
her that she was. She found frowned. She was the
best mom I've ever met. She was a she was
a teacher, so she had lots of experience with kids,
and had lots of experience with different kinds of kids
in different needs, so I think came to it. She
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also was a latent life mom, so I think that that.
She also always said that she was more sure of
herself and therefore able to you know, be better even
in what might be difficult moments. And uh um and
a little bit like your brother, she had had younger
siblings who she had helped raid, so I think she
brought all of these good things to the table. Plus
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she just was a fun person. And you know the
difference when there's someone who's fun in charge and who
just natural instinct is to have more fun. Because her
feeling was like why shouldn't we have a good time,
Like if we're not gonna have a good time. Which
time are we gonna have? Right? Yes, that's a good uh,
that is uh, And you would always think of I
always think how lucky I am that is true for me,
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and really wish it that was true for everyone, because
I'm sure there are lots of other kids who can
use some version of that. I feel like you're telling
me that your mom wrote the drink line I'm here
for a good time, not a long time? Did tell you?
I love that you're saying she was the mother of Aubrey.
You know, I'll due respect to the young Dreak. You
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know she was Aubrey's mother. You know, maybe, uh, maybe anyway,
between Drake and and Rihanna, you can always find a
line that works. I think between the two of I
like her. I like is it her new song? Or
maybe am I just herian on TikTok? Yeah, I got
the sauce? Is that you had song? I've got the sauce.
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You know I'm saucy. You don't know that song? Yes,
that's new. I thought, well, I don't know if it's
new or not. But for some reason, it is all
over there. You go, all right, it's all over TikTok
but you're you're you're doing that. You're drinking in a
kind way you would to you. That's right, all right,
(43:49):
they're gonna make me go, But before I go, I
want to can I do something with you? I call
rapid Fire where I asked you a couple of quick questions. Okay,
all right, all right? What do you value the most?
Peace of mind? Oh? Everybody shift some peace of mind?
Your favorite movie of all time? Um? Oh no, my
(44:10):
favorite movie of all time. I'm just gonna say sus
tract too, but it's it's really not. But I'll say
substract to I'll live whoopee. I love that. Okay. Um.
If you could get a couple of tickets to go
anywhere in the world, where would you love to go? Um?
I would love to go to outer space? Oh uh
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with your friend Elon must and Jeff Bezosh go with them.
Not really, they're not on the rocket, Jeff, No, no, no,
it's it's me and my friends and we're not We're
not staying for long. We just want to get a
really good view of Earth, uh, and then come back.
I love that. I love that. Okay. I would say
a little bit longer, but it sounds like you know,
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you're not here for a long time. You're here for
good times. That's okay. Um, what's uh what's your nickname
among your family? I have a couple logs Logano, Logan,
boke uh low. One person calls me logers and I
don't meaning to tell him I don't really vibe with logers.
(45:15):
M Yeah, that's too close to some other stuff. All right,
But what's the most interesting thing you've learned so far
about dreaming fearlessly? The most interesting thing I've learned so
far about dreaming fearlessly? Um? That is that is that
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you you can't. You can't. You can't get it wrong.
Even when you get it wrong, you're you're still on
the path. You're still on the path to to something great. Yeah,
you can't get it wrong. Last time you were scared?
I was just watching The Circle on Netflix, and I
get like, they have this part of the Circle that
goes alert and it always makes my heart for you
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kind of jump a little bit of your next big dream.
My next big dream is, um, I mean, this is
gonna Oh my god. Mostly no one pops in my
d m s when I say this. I want a family,
you know, what that's not bad thing to say. It is.
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It is. It is when you know if you say
and then they're like, oh really that was you. I
just want to like, I want to continue to create
my community around me, like I've done a really good
job of like finding the girlfriends in my life. I
got a dog, Like I'm I'm trying to create. You know,
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I've I've realized that I've spent a lot of my
life alone, you know, Like I said, I moved to
l A when I was fourteen. I stayed out here
and moved back out here when I was nineteen by myself. Like,
I just want to make sure that as I go
on in my life, I have proper family. How many kids? Oh,
I don't know. Its many as God wills, but not
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too many. Okay, okay, okay. The most interesting thing you've
learned about love? Oh that? Um it's for everyone. Yeah,
it's for everyone. We all have it to give, we
all need it. Um And that I mean hashtag beetles.
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Love is all we need. I love it? Who doesn't? Like?
Last question? If you could have dinner with absolutely anybody
dead or alive, who would you love their dinner with?
Who would it bring you joy the dead. I mean,
if I could have my tap back and have dinner
with my bat again. I I mean, Q dance with
my father again, because we don't know what he's talking about.
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I would, I would give anything to just you know,
he's missed a lot of my life. And um, I
mean he hasn't missed it. He's been present, you know,
in his own way. But um, I would just I'd
want to. I'd want to hear from him, and I
want to you're like his advice, um and just like share.
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Here's here his big belly laugh again. That's yeah. What
was his name? If you don't mind me ask him?
Larry or Dr b is Everyone in Atlantic knows him.
Dr B Love live Larry, Hey Logan, thank you. It
was so nice to meet you. Um I really I
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appreciate you spending all the time with me. Thank you,
thank you very much. Thank you for having me. This
was nice. Yeah. Yeah, I have a good one and
I hope I meet you in persons at some point.
Oh wait, I'm gonna show you my dog. First call
you guys, say hi Russ. He is like, what are
you doing? Oh? How old is Russell? Russell is about
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three years old. He's a rescue and I got him
in December. Russell's looking all lines of cute and Russell
is hugged on all that and we're the same, We're
like twins. I love that. I love pile started dressing
everybody in the same way. I love that. Why not,
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no fear. I love that. I love that. I need
a dog. I don't think I've ever had a dog.
I need a dog that. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah Russell.
Now is Russell wake you up? Yeah? He does, but
he rustles a really good dog. He's not a barker.
He just he just comes to the side of the
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bed and just does a little stretch on the bed
and he's like, ma'am, it's time. It's time for you
to get up. We gotta go. Um uh, we'll be well.
Have fun at the Erica if I do concert and
uh and I will see you on the basketball court,
all right, see you there. Take care. Yeah. Thank you
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Logan Brownie grew up in Atlanta, Georgia, and moved to
Los Angeles to pursue her acting career at fourteen years old.
After booking her first acting gig, she has continued to
appear on the big screen, like in the teen series Summerland,
v H one's Hit the Floor, and the Netflix series
Dear White People. On this episode of The Carlos Watson
Show podcast, Logan Brownie reflects on how she first got
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involved in acting, her experience starting in the Netflix series
Dear White People, and her journey with meditation on my
own no longer. You are no longer on your own,
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but you are a good singer. So, uh is that
your shower song? Or what is your shower song? What
is my showers song? Honestly, I just think a lot
in the shower, Like I think about I think about
a lot of things, and then I'm like, I need
to get out of the shower and go write that down.
What's your shower song? What is my shower song? I'm
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probably too embarrassed to tell you my shower song. It's
the truth. Unto embarrassed, like a Nicki Minage CARDI B
you know what cardis my girl. I like her. She's
she's bud, she's alive, She's good on the stage of boat,
good on the stage. I like the boat. It's uh,
who's your who's your favorite singer? Who? If I was
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throwing a concert for you, who would I have performed? Well,
I'm actually going to see Erica Badoo at the Hollywood
Bowl um in l A. So, I mean, she's not
my favorite performer, but she's gonna be my first paid
concert that I go to post pandemic. Have you been
Have you seen her before? We'll this she the first time.
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I don't Yeah, I don't think that's I think I
would remember if I say, yeah, I haven't seen her
at No. You know, she's one of those ones who
I kind of miss, like I wish she was around more.
I feel like she kind of disappeared for most of
the last fifteen years. She kind of like lives her
life like she kind of has this this like I
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don't know how if she's one daughter more than one daughter,
but she I think, just has this beautiful family and
like a beautiful like she has a garden and she
grows her own vegetables and lettuce, and she has videos
on the Internet where she's like picking her lettuce and cleaning.
I'm like, this is the content that I for. So
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I love that. I love that. I love. Now are
you a green thumb? Are you a are you a chef?
Any of that? Well? I I do a green thumb.
I have my snake plant here. Um. Uh. Yeah, my
mom and my brother are both vegans, so um, holidays
have to be mostly vegan menu. Um. And I'd say
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they're both pretty good vegans because a lot of vegans,
you know, end up just only eating carbs, not really
healthy foods. But yeah, they're both really good chefs. And uh,
I kind of learned from them a little bit. And
how did they become vegan? And are you guys from
Los Angeles? So where you guys from? Uh? They were
from Georgia. Um, and they became when my brother became vegan.
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First it was, um, when my dad got sick. My
dad ended up getting colon cancer or prostate cancer, and um,
he when he passed. I think my brother decided. I
think my brother also watched What the Health or something
like that, and then he just decided to make that
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lifestyle change. Um, because my dad had you know, very
like regular eating habits like the rest of us, and
you know, smoke cigars and drank and all these things.
So when my brother became vegan, my mom did it
to support him. I did it to support him. But
then what had happened? I was gonna wait, because you
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didn't introduce yourself as a vegan, brother and father as vegan.
But you didn't. You didn't take the crown for yourself. Okay, yeah,
I try, I try. I did try. Um. I just
at the time, I was on a show that was
very like physically demanding, and I needed protein at the time.
But I'm kind of I'm for the most part, I
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feel like I'm pest caterian maybe. Okay, okay, okay, but
now what about your cooking skills? What? What do we know?
Anything special there? Are you? Are you just a terrific eater.
I'm a pretty good baker. My great great grandma May
made this incredible pound cake. And you know, in her day,
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she didn't have a stand mixer, and she would sift
out all the ingredients and separate them into six and
each of those six ingredients are like the sixth of
the ingredients would go in at a time, and then
you have to stir until it was gone, and then
the next one and it was like a one to
three hour process and then has to make for an hour.
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That's baking and baking that specifically, it's kind of my
pride enjoy it. But I started doing it when I
was a teenager. I took over that family recipe, and
my family every Christmas, they're like pound cake logan okay, yeah, okay,
I like that, and then you put ice cream with it,
you heat it up to you, you surround it in
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love or no. Yeah, you know it's it's the most
simple pound cake. It's only got vanilla extract. It's got
a really thick, like dark, darker brown crust, so the
outside is like hard and crunchy and the inside is
very like soft. It's moist, it's got that vanilla and
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it's just so good. And yeah, you put your vanilla
ice cream on on holidays, I will say, maybe maybe
my whole family is not vegan. Okay, you know what
that's okay, I like that. I like the little holiday vacation. Um.
I was quietly the family cook growing up. I was
never the baker, though my youngest sister was the baker
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and key line pie was her specialty instead of pound cake.
But pound cakes is not a bad option. That's a
good option. Chef for you, what kind of chef was?
I apparently people don't it. Uh, But just like these
former vegans drift towards that's gutariut, I drifted it towards
consumer Um. You know what I made? All sorts of
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thing I made, uh, certain kinds of chicken. We did skirts,
seak we I guess we were meat eaters, lamb um.
My sisters were little at the time, and they saw
something on TV once about short ordered cooks and they
really liked that. So they used to leave me little notes,
but kind of what they wanted and so uh and
so we we came up with all sorts of things
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depending on what they were hungry for. So we had
lots of lots of good things. I love that you
sound very close to your family. I love that. Yeah,
but will your brother. I've now heard you bring up
your brother a couple of times. Since are you guys
close in age or where are you guys? Yeah? My um,
I have three brothers. My younger one is the one
I'm closest to, age two. We're thirteen months apart. And
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then I have two older brothers and the one that's
right about me, we're thirteen years apart. So nice. Yeah,
it is a lot of different age gaps. Uh. But yeah,
I got three brothers and they mean the world to me.
I'm the only girl. My dad would say, you know,
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I'm your opposite because you're the only boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's a good deal. It's a good deal. It's a
good deal. Did they take good care of you where
they take good care of you and vice versa. Yes,
So my older two brothers, my the one right above me. Um,
when my dad went to uh, desert storm, he was
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still that. My my brother was thirteen to he was
still in the house, so he took care of me
and my little brother when we were babies. He helped
my mom out. Um. And then when I was fifth teen,
I was living in l A. I had been living
with my godfather and he got sick and my brother
was in his early twenties and became my guardian in
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l A. So I could stay out here at fifteen
and pursue acting. And that was like I mean, he
was he had just graduated Howard, he was working managing
a hard rock in d C. He was like he
had a wonderful girlfriend. He was living the life and
like picked up came to l A and was I mean, sorry, godfather,
he was a better, a better guardian than my godfather was.
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Like he just naturally was a perfect guard you know.
Because the thing is you gotta when when you have
a fifteen year old girl child really like, you have
to stimulate them. You can't just let them watch TV.
Like you have to take them to music UM's and
take them to the movies and take them to do
things you know, I need. That's so funny, did you
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say it? So? I have a niece and nephew, and
years ago they came to stay with me and they're
separated by twelve years. I think he said thirty years
by twelve years. So they came to my little nephew
I think was two or three and my niece was
about fifteen, and I thought I was being the great
uncle and I thought it was giving them lots of
time and they could do any big And about two
days and she said we need to have a talk.
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She said, first of all, we need to have a structure.
We can't just eat it any old time and you
can't keep taking us the big Donalds. I thought I
was doing something great. It's like, no, that's not great,
that's not okay, Like somebody's gotta rustled better. So, you know,
fifteen year old sometimes canna stimulate you to be your
best self. So, um, you did that for your brother. Honestly,
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I think I did because my brother used to say
that he, you know, wasn't really someone who wanted kids,
and I reminded him. He said this a couple of
years ago. I reminded him that he already had had one.
I was like, you know, you raised a fifteen year
old girl like that is the test. That is the test.
And now he has um to he is twins. He
has one year old twins. Oh nice girls? Boys? Oh nice? Okay, okay,
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good well he he got plenty of plenty of good practice.
Said that that is that was He still in Los Angeles.
Does he get to see you a lot? Yeah, he's
still in l A. And actually my oldest brother, um
just moved back to l moved to l A. My
oldest brother went to college in California and now he's
back in l A. Too. So I have two brothers
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in l a and my nephew. I have a lot
of family out here now. All of a sudden, you
were magnet. You drew, you drew people to A to
a good place. Do you like l A? Do you
like living in l A? I? I don't have any
complaints really. Um. I think it's a beautiful city. I
think it's the thing that I love about it is
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that it has everything to offer. I mean, I want
to go hiking, if I want to go to the beach,
I want to go some to the mountains and be cold,
whatever cuisine I want, Like, if I want to be
in the city, anything I want is like is very
close proximity to me. Um, I find that really liberating.
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It feels like it kind of feels like quintessential America,
like where you can just go wherever you want to go,
Like the idea of it is here to me. Yeah. Yeah,
I like l An. That's where my niece and nephew
live and uh and my sister, my brother in law.
We're kind of your bird bank Mission Hills if you
know where Mission Hills is. Yeah, and uh. And that's
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so funny the way you describe it. You describe l
A like somebody from the Department of Tourism, like really positively.
Uh yeah, we do scare it. So I'm sure they're
where they were watching and appreciate it, which is good board.
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So how did you get into acting? Like, I'm always
curious when I hear people got in early? Were you
like a six seven eight year old? You were like,
I want to be on TV? I like, what's happening there?
Like how did that? How did it happen? Yeah? Just
like that, Um, I I was My mom had me
in ballet when I was really small. Um, and I
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really liked performing. Me and my little brother, we liked performing.
We were I mean, I feel like most kids did.
Like you know, everyone was on their fire in front
of the fireplace, putting on performances for family. Like that's
just like a write of passage. As a child, I think, um,
and my mom had us modeling. I was in a
commercial when I was young, and then um my mom
had actually put me into like a modeling and acting school.
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But she did it to make me more fine, so
she says, I think, uh, maybe more lady. Like you know,
I grew up ground boys. All my cousins are boys,
like I just I thought I was one of them,
you know, and uh so I and it was great
because basically she just exposed me to like these other
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young women who you know, we were all learning about
like grooming and think it was really like a very
helpful experience. Um. And then there was a competition that
we went to that was in l A. And the
competition had agents as the judges, and then I met
one of them and then they were like, if you're serious,
you should move out to l A. It's pilot season.
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I'm like, what is a pilot season? Because I was fourteen?
And then we just did it like a month. It
wasn't That was in January, um of two thousand four,
and a month later, Uh, me and my mom got
on a plane and moved to Pasadena. Wow yeah Wow?
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Did you did you feel like it was gonna happen?
Or it was like it was a dream and even
if it didn't fully happen, like who gets to do that?
And that you were just looking forward to it. Uh.
You know, my parents asked me, they were like do
you want to do this? Like do you want to
move towle? And I felt like I had to say
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yes for every fourteen year old, like girl on the planet.
I was just like, yeah, who, Like I mean, I
was very very privileged, Like that is a huge blessing
and privileged for your parents to offer that to you.
I feel like most most parents also was a really
good kid. But I think most parents probably wouldn't trust
their fourteen year old girl to just go because, like
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I said, I was going to be living with my godfather,
I was leaving home. I was going to be homeschooling
and in this completely new town that Hollywood. You know,
Hollywood always had this kind of like, oh be careful,
it's Hollywood about it. And I just I came out
here and within the first month, I booked a job
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and started working. Wow, that's kind of uh. I agree
with you. For every fourteen year old, that's kind of
like not a bad We know, who are your parents,
because that is a certain mindset and a certain openness, Um,
Like who are Like I know your dad tasks, but
like were they in media? Were they in um, you know,
television or movies of some sort or what did they do?
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Who were they were open to do it? This? I
think my parents are just hippies at heart. Um, But
my dad was a dentist. Um. He's a very prominent
dentist in Atlanta. He had his own practice. Um, and
my mom has been a lot of things. Um, she's
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in essence, I would call her an am album between
a businesswoman, entrepreneur, and an event planner. That's kind of
her world. She has done all of those things. Um.
And we come from like my mom's side of the family,
like our entrepreneurs. I don't know. I mean, I think
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both of them left home for college, you know, when
they were younger. Um, they all I mean they would
they would send me and my brother away to camp
for two weeks at a time. We used to go
to camp for a month at a time, and we
we always traveled. My parents just never wanted us to
feel like we were stuck anywhere, and like they just
kind of always encouraged this idea that the world is
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out there for the taking, that it's to be explored. Um,
and to not be afraid, you know. I mean, I
think that's the other thing. I think a lot of
fourteen year old kids would be afraid to leave home
and go to this new strange place through this new
strange career. You know, I'm didn't I knew my godfather
but I never lived with him before, you know, And
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I was just like, I'm kind of a flow kind
of person. So I was like, okay, and do you
like la I live in the Bay Area and uh,
like I said, I've come down sometimes to see family.
But do you enjoy it? Is that l A? You said,
l A? I guess you you said you take advantage
of all of it. Yeah, yeah, l A is Georgia
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will always always be my home. UM. And I think
that you know, in l A. I don't have a
large of a of a circle like I keep a
very close tight knit circle in l A. UM. But
actors or no mainly actors, they are actually are the
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most part actors or started off as actors and then
segued into you know, other professions. UM. And I also, yeah,
I I do kind of keep my friends from my
different uh jobs that I've I've worked on. You you're
excited about being a producer director? Uh at some point?
Is that A? Yeah? Yes? Know I, UM, when I
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was younger, I used to or I've looked at photos
from when I was younger, and I actually used to
have this little, this little digital super eight camera and
it was it was an American Girl product they sold.
When I was a kid, and um, I used to
make little movies. It was my parents had got me
a PC and I would record little digital movies and
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and make you know, make them on my little PC.
And when I look back at those photos as an adult,
I think, oh, oh wow, like you, you came into
this industry as an actor. But what if your little
self really wanted to be a filmmaker. And what if,
like an actor is in proximity to that, But what
if you're what if that's really what she wanted? Because
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that's the you know, ever since I was a kid,
the person on set who I am the most drawn to, well,
really it's it's all of the departments. I've always been
drawn to, like each of the departments on a set.
But you know, directors are the captain of the ship,
and how they are is really how the tone of
the set will be. And so yeah, that's kind of
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Are are you a basketball player at all? I had
a basketball who growing up? Could I play? Now? Probably? Not? Okay, Okay,
it's funny. Something you were just saying about the captain
of it reminded me of some point guards. I don't
know if you're a basketball fan, but reminded me of
the people who are off being kind of the captain
on the basketball play. And you said it in a
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way of really natural point guards love to be in charge,
love to come to a set and kind of figure
out who should do what and move people around. And
I got the feeling that you might you might really
enjoy that. Are you telling me that maybe I should
go be a point guard instead of a director? You know,
it depends on how much type and how much speak
we have follow you. I'm really sure I'm fine too.
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I don't think they're I don't think I'm gonna make
it to the w b A anytime soon. Yeah, you
know what, you never know. I have a good friend
from Vietnam who always reminds me when I'd say, if
I astar, are you tall? Just depends on where in
the world I am and somebody like I've got good
height in other parts of the world. You know, I'm
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not going to be at the w n b A,
So uh, I say, it depends on what event I'm
out of, which you i'm wearing, you know, and maybe
I'm in a platform. You never know. We wait, now,
what's the tallest shoe you have. How many inches have
you done before? Oh? Well, I mean I don't. Well
maybe like a like an eight inch platform elevating eight inches.
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I want to show and tell if you got it nearby.
I want to see a you know what? You know what?
I know where? Back? I do know where? There's eight inches?
All right, I'm getting the HI receiving. So what do
you have there? Do you have a dog? You have
a cat? What do you Yeah? Yeah, I'm actually just
(20:59):
stopping of myself. I have two names for myself. Yea,
this is my dog. Let me wrestle. Put me. I
know you're like, oh, you don't want to have to
respect his boundaries. He doesn't always maybe later, okay, but
I do have the shoe. So this I have this guy,
This isn't the tallest shoe I've worn. This is actually
not as tall. But this is also an Alexander McQueen
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vintage hell that I snubbed. Can you move in that shoe?
Can you like really move or are you like, yeah,
things going on when you're in that shoe? No? Like
a platform bam. A platform is so umful to walk
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in because it's like it's this this elevation right here
makes it very comfortable. Okay, okay, Oh, so I'm not
gonna get the CD eight insurer is it? I'll see
it another day even less you have a five, I
think it. Let's see. Yeah, okay, Now, I don't know
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how my measurings take so I'm not sure if this
is an inshoes, but this I have this guy. Wow,
it was a lot taller, but they're kind of they're
kind of the same. Yeah, are no are you? Are
you a shoe junkie? Are you? Okay? Yes, clearly. Yeah.
I love love, love love shoes, love fashion, love shoes.
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Are you? Um? I am not. But I've had a
friend described herself as an art collector. She's got lots
of shoes from all over the globe, and I think
that's an interesting way to think about it. So I
respect people like him that much and who take care
of them, you know, like this, I mean both of these,
and they have story to tell. A lot of my
clothes are actually hand me downs from my mom or
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from friends. Um, And like I said, these are these
are vantage So I got these that it can assignment shop.
I have no idea who wore them before. But Alexander
McLean is legend, and I got them for not a
lot of money. And then these, you know, I wore
them so much that uh I broke the side of it,
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but I took it to the shoe repair shop and
got it fixed. It's like when you love us shoe
that much and you have a history with it and
you can remember where you bore it, and like, you know,
they they are part of you now, granted their things
and at the end of the day, you're not your things.
But if you can, you know, develop that that genuine
relationship to the things in your life, then you take
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care of them more. They're reflective of how you are
with people, with yourself, you know, like if you come
home and you're just throwing things around, which I obviously
am guilty of, but like if you are throwing things around,
you're gonna start treating yourself and other people like that.
It's your relationship to the world. You know. I loved that.
Uh I love that you have found all that good
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stuff that I loved. It almost sounds like books. They
used to do all those great movies about bookstores and
uh uh you know kind of the history behind certain
books and who owned them and what stories passed between
the people who who enjoyed them. So I like that, Um,
talk to me about Dear White People. Uh for a second,
have you enjoyed that? You have four seasons? Is that right? Yeah?
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Four seasons? Yeah? Do you enjoy that? I mean, I
know it's some level you do, but I guess I'm
asking almost at an even heightened level, like does it
bring you joy still in season four? To be a
part of it and to do it absolutely? Um? You
know this show, well, Dear White People was a film
first justin Simmy and made this film, and I remember
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when it came out. I thought, now, why on earth
would someone make a movie and call it Dear White People? Why?
Why would they do that? And I was like, I'm
not I'm not going this is foolish. I am not
going to see this and then cast me off. Mine
was like, Halogan, I'm going to this screening. They actually
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shot this movie? Um where I'm from? Because if they
shot it in um, cold city, cold city, Uh above me?
Why can't I think of this city? Salt Lake City,
Vancouver lower than Vancouver, not Canada. Um uh Seattle, Portland's
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not Portland's Oh wow, this is so strange that I've
completely forgotten where they filmed George Floyd where what state wasis? Yes, yes, Minnesota, Yeah, Minneapolis.
Oh interesting, what an interesting choice, you know, I had
justin on the show. I don't even know if we
talked about that. We should have oh yeah yeah yeah.
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So I don't know if it was Minneapolis specifically, but
I know it's Minnesota because where she my castmate, was from,
and that's and she was like, I'm going to see
this screening because it was shot in my town, the
town I'm from, and went and it was your white people,
and I loved it. It's like it is literally the
same thing that anyone who's ever watched the show, how
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it happens to them. They like, they're like, why like
this title, you know, silly title, racist title, whatever people
want to say, And then you watch it and you're like, oh, okay,
have you changed over the four seasons? Like even as
an actor, have you changed? Very much? Absolutely? Absolutely, I've
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changed as an actor. I've changed as a person. I
guess I should say I've evolved, Um have experienced. I've evolved.
I've been on a journey. Um, you know, I've had
things I've endured things, whether it's through getting these scripts
and then showing up and performing them and then feeling
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very visceral because of their subject matter, or um, you know,
dealing with real life trolls, real life people who would
rather not seem here shining living um too. Uh, you know,
having to unpack my own life for the world, you know, um,
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and dissecting myself as as well as dissecting Sam. Uh.
It's a lot has definitely been been five It's really
been five years of um of joys, of of pain,
and fear of excellence. Um. It honestly feels like I
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had a collegiate experience within your white people, you know,
like a lot of those things happen in your your
collegiate experience. And uh yeah, And what is it preparing
you to do? Do you think? Not that it has to,
but but when I hear you say collegiate, and and
I can tell in the ways in which it's allowed
you to grow and push and change and try things,
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and as you said, even feel things, you know, feel
the emotion of it. Do you feel like it's preparing
you for something special? Is there something you would love
to consider doing next? Or down the road. Yeah. I
mean I think I believe that every every job I
have is death has set me up. Every experience I've
had has set me up for the next thing. And
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so I think I truly can't know what comes next,
but I do know that this journey, this show has
made me much more compassionate, much more present, much more
um it's maybe more thoughtful. It's it's um, it's it's
made me. It's forced me into seeking therapy, seeking, you know,
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meditative practices. Um, it's it is, it is pushed me into, Yeah,
just a different part of my womanhood. Like I couldn't
have I couldn't have imagined that. And so what comes next?
You know? Who? Who? I have? No, I have no idea.
I really like that when you said push you in
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a different part of your womanhood? What part of your
womanhood do you feel like you're in now? Because you're
making making me wonder? Have you correct? But where I am?
And where should I push myself? Like that was actually
a very interesting way you put it. We're where do
you think you are in your womanhood? I feel like
I'm I'm at a place of I'm just I'm at
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a place of I listen more, I I accept more,
I allow more. Um, I think I'm not I'm not fighting.
I think I'm not like fighting fighting anymore, like fighting
myself fighting other people fighting. Um, what happens in my life?
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I think I've you know what it is. I was
talking in circles, but I there's a guru who I
sometimes meditate under, and you know, he used to ay
this when we would talk about the purpose of life
and having purpose in life. He would say this thing
that I thought was so controversial. Most people would think
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it's controversial, but I've sat with it since then, and
it's that, you know, he would say, you know, life
has no purpose. The purpose, life is the purpose. And
I'm like, no, you can't say that. You can't say
life has no purpose like that's He's like, oh, I'm
saying that. I'm saying that life is the purpose, like
just to live and to be is the purpose. And
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that becomes, you know, very complicated, because then you have
to look at us as humans and in order for
us to go from one day to the next, we
have to wake up with a will to live and
and something to seek, you know, and do we have
to have a but to find we actually have to
find um purpose in our lives. But I think I'm
in a place in my life where I'm able to
understand and balance what it means for my purpose in
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this world to just be the It's like it's a
it's a relief to be like my purpose is literally
just to be here. However, I can live each day purposefully.
I can choose passion, choose service, choose you know, things
like compassion and things like that to guide me. But
it's just a relief to not feel like I have
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to achieve something by a date. You know, did you
did you used to feel like that? Did you pre
this show? Did you have that sense of I don't
even know what the right phrasing is and the right
framing is, but a sense that I, like I need
to be doing this in this way and this speed
and achieving things by this time. I would be shocked
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at most people didn't feel like that. I mean, I
grew up in the church and like I remember, you know,
one of the books we read was was it Rick
Warren's a purpose driven life? And I think as a kid,
I got I didn't understand the difference between like, you know,
having purpose and like m and having a purpose to
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be here. And I think that a lot of people
find themselves. I mean, we all end up in dark
places at different times in our lives because of different
things and what we deal with. But I think that
that's what gets so confusing when you're in that that
like kind of I call it the dark room. I
kind of referenced it like a like a photographer would film,
because everyone sometimes has to go into the dark room
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and it need you need time to develop to see
the full picture sometimes and if you stay out and
if you stay out too much, if you if you
don't take that moment to go into the dark room,
then you just stay underdeveloped and exposed, and then then
you then you never become So you know, whenever I'm
in going into like a you know, having a moment
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in my dark room, now I am able to do
I'm able to have that difference of like of never
questioning that I'm supposed to be here. And so yeah,
I I really would be surprised if have you ever
have you not? Have you ever felt like that growing up?
Like as I don't know how you feel about it now,
but like how do you associate purpose and passion and
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all of those things those words. Um, well, it's centraally.
As I hear you talk about it, you clearly have
thought about it in some ways, even more than I have,
and more differently. And even as I hear you talk
about a guru, it sounds like you also have had
the advantage of being in conversation about it with someone
who's also being thoughtful about it. Um. I have, um,
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And I mean clearly, I think we all do. What
would I say to that? Have I thought about my purpose? Um?
Maybe not in exactly the way that you were saying.
I think I've thought about things that I would love
to do. Um. I thought about my fundamental appreciation for
being alive or being healthy. As an example, I had
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a very bad car accident when I was a kid.
They thought I wasn't gonna walk again, and so I
probably have a greater appreciation every day even just walking,
or if I get to play basketball reduced. I think
it probably brings me a greater level of joy uh
than than otherwise. Um Um. But but I probably that's
entering the way you describe a dark room. I might
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want my dark room to be in Hawaii. That's fine,
darker n place I was gonna say there may be
some light coming in, but yes, I understand your point,
and I could. I probably could. Uh I could use
that and would enjoy it and we would get really
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good joy out of it. I'm someone who also I
think part of my you called it dark room, part
of my thinking space or my feeling space or what
have you, also sometimes lives in pages and so whether
that's people would call it journaling, but it's not exactly
or writing on a white board and kind of thinking
out loud. I think, I think, are you saying you
do that too? I literally and like, can I show
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you this one I have? I have three white boards.
I'm like, look's not this one. I can't show you
this one, but I have three, I literally have. I
have a big one and I have a little one
that I have one to just to get things out.
I get that. Yeah, yeah, it does something good for
you to kind of put it out there and let
people kind of really see that, uh in that in
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that really really good way, which I uh yeah, I enjoy. Yeah,
I definitely enjoy. Did I hear that you teach meditation
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at schools? Uh? Yeah, So I don't necessarily teach. I
don't necessarily teach meditation in schools, but I did take
my teacher training uh in meditation so that I could
go back to the schools to where I'm from and
talk about meditation and how we can um put it
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in our schools. Because there are some there's some really
cool elementary middle schools in Maryland I think, who are
already implementing this kind of programming where they don't have detention.
They have like yoga rooms and quiet rooms and meditation rooms,
which I mean, this is what grown adults have. You
walk into any text base and they have quiet rooms,
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So why not have those for kids? Like? You know,
why are adults the only ones that need quiet and
taking time to walk away from the rest of your
co workers? Like don't you think kids need that too?
Do you know? I really I like that. I love
that creativity. I love that possibility. I definitely was a
kid who would have benefited from uh from that. I
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definitely would have benefited from that. It's not a it's
not a punishment, you know, it's a it's a it's
it's an opportunity. And that's why I wanted what I
love that those these schools and these public schools in
Maryland are doing um is they but they have someone
who you know, if you're for whatever reason, a child,
a student is acting out in class, they go to
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this room and they'll learn yoga exercises and breathings and
breathing practices and UM. And these kids you can look up.
These internets are all I mean, these interviews are all
over the internet, and these kids will very eloquently share
how this has affected them and that this is exactly
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what they needed in that. You know, they'll they'll tell
a story about how like, yeah, you know, um, this whatever,
this happened at home and it just made me really anxious.
And then I came here and then I you know,
I was doing this in class, but once I came
to UM the meditation room, I feel really better. After
just stretching and breathing, I feel much more calm. Duh,
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like thank you. Everyone deserves this. I really I well,
I'm the son of teachers, grandson of teachers, and I
really I like that sense of creativity. And I've had
a chance to travel and m one of my fun
things I love to do. What I've traveled the world
is I love to see what their schools are like.
And you know, they have these interesting schools and parts
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of Italy in parts of Singapore where they believe that
music is the key and that you can learn your
letters better, you can learn history better, you can learn
reading better, map better if you mix it with music.
That add music and things can go better. Um. But
some of these other thoughts like that as you're describing them,
I remember meeting a wonderful psychologist in India, and now
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that I think about it, she had some of this
thinking as well to um about you know, schools filled
with opportunities and kind of thinking about your full self
and kind of your different needs and uh, and she
she approached it. And I'm not gonna trying to remember
the name of the program she called it, but she
approached it very much in terms of opportunities as you're
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talking about, which I really like. I need imagine. Okay,
I'm imagining being a student in a classroom and for
whatever reason and my personal life, I am being disruptive
and it's now not only making my teacher upset, making
my classmates distracted, and then my to teach. My teacher
decides to send me to a detention room where I
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am I am being punished. I am not, you know,
being nurtured. And now I'm angry and I'm embarrassed and
I'm hurt and I'm scared. And then I'm supposed to
eventually go back into this class and somehow be better.
Now what if I was that same desructive kid, and
then I went into a room and someone welcomed me
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and said, hey, you you know, having a good day, Let's,
you know, talk about it. Do you want to let's
you know, do some breathing exercises, you want to stretch,
you want to jump? Do you want to sing? You
want to dance? Whatever this is? And you know, but
specifically the meditative facts is specifically the paniama's, the breathwork,
the the you know, the just stretching your body. And
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when that that student, when me, the disruptive student, when
I go back into my class, I feel relaxed, I
feel refreshed, I feel calmed. I feel maybe a bit remorseful,
a bit maybe still embarrassed, but better for it. And
and you know, ready to be a part and do
my part and give to this, you know, our little
(40:14):
mini society or a little mini classroom. And I feel
like it builds compassion in kids, you know, just to
have that, have someone, have someone love on you, like
instead of instead of saying you're not fitting into a box,
so we're going to put you in a box. That's
not right. Yeah, that's so nice that you say that.
(40:34):
So I, um, when I gotten a lot of trouble
early on as a student, and in those days, they
would kick you out of class. And so my mom
used to tell the stories that she said that not
only would they kick you out, it's crazy to think about,
but for a five year old, they would have me
stand on the side of the road and wait for
her to come pick me up, hugging a flagpole. Absolutely crazy, insane.
(40:58):
But she said she used to show up, and you know,
she used to say, come here, boy, you need a hug.
And to your point about how you approach someone who
is struggling or clearly is not currently well situated is
such a powerful thing. And the ability to kind of
refill people backed up with goodness or love on them,
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as you said, I think, is a special talent. That um,
that also would be a good class and in addition
to meditation, to be a good class about how to
share love and show love probably would be uh, probably
be a good thing. Um warm. I just love that
your mom did that. Whereas like, I mean, I love
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my parents. My parents gave me a lot love, but
if I got in trouble, I was just in trouble.
Do you know what she was? I used to tell
her that she was. She found frowned. She was the
best mom I've ever met. She was a she was
a teacher, so she had lots of experience with kids,
and had lots of experience with different kinds of kids
in different needs, so I think came to it. She
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also was a latent life mom, so I think that that.
She also always said that she was more sure of
herself and therefore able to you know, be better even
in what might be difficult moments. And uh um and
a little bit like your brother, she had had younger
siblings who she had helped raid, so I think she
brought all of these good things to the table. Plus
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she just was a fun person. And you know the
difference when there's someone who's fun in charge and who
just natural instinct is to have more fun. Because her
feeling was like why shouldn't we have a good time,
Like if we're not gonna have a good time. Which
time are we gonna have? Right? Yes, that's a good uh,
that is uh, And you would always think of I
always think how lucky I am that is true for me,
(42:44):
and really wish it that was true for everyone, because
I'm sure there are lots of other kids who can
use some version of that. I feel like you're telling
me that your mom wrote the drink line I'm here
for a good time, not a long time? Did tell you?
I love that you're saying she was the mother of Aubrey.
You know, I'll due respect to the young Dreak. You
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know she was Aubrey's mother. You know, maybe, uh, maybe anyway,
between Drake and and Rihanna, you can always find a
line that works. I think between the two of I
like her. I like is it her new song? Or
maybe am I just herian on TikTok? Yeah, I got
the sauce? Is that you had song? I've got the sauce.
(43:28):
You know I'm saucy. You don't know that song? Yes,
that's new. I thought, well, I don't know if it's
new or not. But for some reason, it is all
over there. You go, all right, it's all over TikTok
but you're you're you're doing that. You're drinking in a
kind way you would to you. That's right, all right,
(43:49):
they're gonna make me go, But before I go, I
want to can I do something with you? I call
rapid Fire where I asked you a couple of quick questions. Okay,
all right, all right? What do you value the most?
Peace of mind? Oh? Everybody shift some peace of mind?
Your favorite movie of all time? Um? Oh no, my
(44:10):
favorite movie of all time. I'm just gonna say sus
tract too, but it's it's really not. But I'll say
substract to I'll live whoopee. I love that. Okay. Um.
If you could get a couple of tickets to go
anywhere in the world, where would you love to go? Um?
I would love to go to outer space? Oh uh
(44:33):
with your friend Elon must and Jeff Bezosh go with them.
Not really, they're not on the rocket, Jeff, No, no, no,
it's it's me and my friends and we're not We're
not staying for long. We just want to get a
really good view of Earth, uh, and then come back.
I love that. I love that. Okay. I would say
a little bit longer, but it sounds like you know,
(44:54):
you're not here for a long time. You're here for
good times. That's okay. Um, what's uh what's your nickname
among your family? I have a couple logs Logano, Logan,
boke uh low. One person calls me logers and I
don't meaning to tell him I don't really vibe with logers.
(45:15):
M Yeah, that's too close to some other stuff. All right,
But what's the most interesting thing you've learned so far
about dreaming fearlessly? The most interesting thing I've learned so
far about dreaming fearlessly? Um? That is that is that
(45:36):
you you can't. You can't. You can't get it wrong.
Even when you get it wrong, you're you're still on
the path. You're still on the path to to something great. Yeah,
you can't get it wrong. Last time you were scared?
I was just watching The Circle on Netflix, and I
get like, they have this part of the Circle that
goes alert and it always makes my heart for you
(45:58):
kind of jump a little bit of your next big dream.
My next big dream is, um, I mean, this is
gonna Oh my god. Mostly no one pops in my
d m s when I say this. I want a family,
you know, what that's not bad thing to say. It is.
(46:19):
It is. It is when you know if you say
and then they're like, oh really that was you. I
just want to like, I want to continue to create
my community around me, like I've done a really good
job of like finding the girlfriends in my life. I
got a dog, Like I'm I'm trying to create. You know,
(46:39):
I've I've realized that I've spent a lot of my
life alone, you know, Like I said, I moved to
l A when I was fourteen. I stayed out here
and moved back out here when I was nineteen by myself. Like,
I just want to make sure that as I go
on in my life, I have proper family. How many kids? Oh,
I don't know. Its many as God wills, but not
(47:01):
too many. Okay, okay, okay. The most interesting thing you've
learned about love? Oh that? Um it's for everyone. Yeah,
it's for everyone. We all have it to give, we
all need it. Um And that I mean hashtag beetles.
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Love is all we need. I love it? Who doesn't? Like?
Last question? If you could have dinner with absolutely anybody
dead or alive, who would you love their dinner with?
Who would it bring you joy the dead. I mean,
if I could have my tap back and have dinner
with my bat again. I I mean, Q dance with
my father again, because we don't know what he's talking about.
(47:44):
I would, I would give anything to just you know,
he's missed a lot of my life. And um, I
mean he hasn't missed it. He's been present, you know,
in his own way. But um, I would just I'd
want to. I'd want to hear from him, and I
want to you're like his advice, um and just like share.
(48:05):
Here's here his big belly laugh again. That's yeah. What
was his name? If you don't mind me ask him?
Larry or Dr b is Everyone in Atlantic knows him.
Dr B Love live Larry, Hey Logan, thank you. It
was so nice to meet you. Um I really I
(48:26):
appreciate you spending all the time with me. Thank you,
thank you very much. Thank you for having me. This
was nice. Yeah. Yeah, I have a good one and
I hope I meet you in persons at some point.
Oh wait, I'm gonna show you my dog. First call
you guys, say hi Russ. He is like, what are
you doing? Oh? How old is Russell? Russell is about
(48:53):
three years old. He's a rescue and I got him
in December. Russell's looking all lines of cute and Russell
is hugged on all that and we're the same, We're
like twins. I love that. I love pile started dressing
everybody in the same way. I love that. Why not,
(49:16):
no fear. I love that. I love that. I need
a dog. I don't think I've ever had a dog.
I need a dog that. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah Russell.
Now is Russell wake you up? Yeah? He does, but
he rustles a really good dog. He's not a barker.
He just he just comes to the side of the
(49:37):
bed and just does a little stretch on the bed
and he's like, ma'am, it's time. It's time for you
to get up. We gotta go. Um uh, we'll be well.
Have fun at the Erica if I do concert and
uh and I will see you on the basketball court,
all right, see you there. Take care. Yeah. Thank you
(50:14):
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