December 15, 2025 • 18 mins
Chuck Todd blasts Donald Trump for his despicable post about Rob Reiner where he attributed the murder to politics and made it about himself. He argues that Trump only knows how to “go low” and that the post is a red flag that something is seriously wrong with the president’s mental state.
Timeline:
00:00 Rob Reiner & his wife found murdered in their home
00:30 So much grief from Brown & Australia shootings & now Reiner…
02:15 Trump’s post about Reiner’s death was beyond despicable
03:45 Trump implied that Reiner’s political disagreements got him murdered
04:45 Trump’s lack of empathy during Covid contributed to election loss
06:00 Reiner should be celebrated for his art, not attacked for his politics
07:45 Trump is a virus of polarization & exploitive of any situation
08:30 Trump represents America, and his post was classless & embarrassing
10:00 Trump is leaving a terrible legacy
10:45 Trump is the most successful failure in American history
12:45 We want a president who knows how to “go high”, Trump only goes low
13:45 Nobody in Trump’s inner circle stays there for long
14:30 You can’t chase every Trump outrage, but this one stood out
15:30 Trump’s behavior will accelerate perception that he’s losing it
16:45 This is a red flag that something is seriously wrong with Trump
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, I'm coming to you after the news I taped previously.
I taped the episode on Sunday evening, but before we
found out about Rob Reiner. And I'll be honest when
I think about the introduction to the episode earlier for
my podcast, and it was focused more of what happened
in Australia. You know, by the time I woke up
Monday morning, it was felt like a totality of just grief,
(00:26):
you know, had sort of been piled on top of us.
Whether you're thinking about what happened at Brown University, what
happened in Australia, and then just the gruesome attack on
Rob Reiner and his wife and the murder of those two,
it was just collectively, you know, just you wake up
(00:47):
in sort of a funk, feeling just really just I
can't you know, look, look, everybody processes these things differently.
I don't want to assume other people are processing but
you're just feeling really just down, you know. I happened
to Actually, my wife and I just watched spinal Tap
(01:10):
two Friday evening. It was you know, there we were
looking for something to watch. We finished Ploribus and we
weren't ready to fall asleep. We had seen the new
sort of that, and I was like, oh, I've been
meaning to take a look. And I think the second
Spinal Tap finally started streaming this weekend, so it was
getting certainly promoted on my algorithm because I am a
(01:31):
gen xer, right, I am the target audience for this.
And in fact, my wife and I and were remarking,
just you know, not all of these sort of throwback
sequels work, right, You've heard me say Naked Gun didn't work.
But this one worked, and it was sort of it
was because Reyner knew, you know, I just understood whatever
it was. He just sort of he understood what Spinal
(01:53):
Tap was trying to be, what they were, and it
was just sort of it was just well done. Not
all those sequels are easy to pull off. Sometimes they're
just simply money grabs. This one didn't. It felt sure
there was a there was there was an opportunity, but
it felt like it was well constructed, well thought out,
and had the right right amount of throwback and look forward.
(02:19):
And then I saw what the President said about Rob
Reiner and it was so disgusting, It was so awful,
It was so classless, and I know we're all exhausted
from being exhausted by him, right, But at the end
of the day, whether we like it or not, the
President of the United States is our representative, is our
(02:40):
collective representative. And you know, I certainly go into the
voting booth thinking about that. You know, is this person
the best representative of America? You know, and a moment
when you need somebody to put the country first, at
a moment when you need somebody to be empathetic, does
this person have that skill set? And look, we've had
presidents that have been better at it than others. Some
(03:01):
are really good at it. They just have that that,
you know. Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, all
three of them always felt like, you know, they met
moments when they when it needed to be done. Ronald
Reagan would meet moments when he'd done. H. W. Bush
Actually he had a harder times at times. It maybe
explains why he didn't get a second term. Right. Bill
(03:24):
Clinton just had had that extra factor to it. But
in general, we've always had a president that knew how
to put you know, sort of not put them insert
themselves into everything. And you know, just to the comment himself,
the idea that the President the United States implied that
(03:48):
Rob Reiner's political disagreements with Donald Trump or what got
him murdered. It's essentially what he's saying. Can you just
pure and utter in sanity to think that that's a
level of sick narcissism? And I'm not going to sit
here and say I'm an expert at trying to diagnose people,
(04:09):
But my god, how narcissistic do you have to be
to assume everything is about you, that everything is about
this moment about you, and you have to assert you know,
there's the cliche, you know, the famous quote about Teddy Roosevelt.
He wanted to be the bride at every wedding and
the corpse at every funeral. I mean, this is a
form of that mental illness on display for all of
(04:34):
us to see. But you know there are times, you know,
on one hand, look, I think we're all used to
it by now. Look, I believe the reason he didn't
win reelection in twenty twenty is his inability to have
empathy during COVID Right, he just was not the person
we wanted to deal with that moment. He was not
handling it well, he was not understanding it. He was
not getting it, and it was just like give you know,
(04:55):
we need some we need some restoration of normality. And
Biden was seen as sort of a comfortable figure, a
previous vice president. He sort of he knows how, he
understands the rules of the road. He will do those
basics right, you know, he will show the right amount
of empathy. He will work, you know, not try to
exploit people the way the way the way Trump can
(05:19):
be so exploitive of a moment and you're just sitting
there and you know our inability, you know the fact
that Donald Trump is trying to always make somebody's politics
the first thing you think about, rather than anything else
in their lives is what's broken about America right now?
And he broke it right. He is exploiting this moment.
(05:40):
He is right. The social media companies and Donald Trump
have collectively have tried to break us this way, and
he is he is broken, and he is trying to
apply his broken lack of empathy, lack of emotion on
the rest of us. But he wants to apply politics
to every thing. When Rob Reiner's artistic work deserves to
(06:04):
be celebrated as a great American period, Okay, no matter
his politics, he provided art that entertained so many of
us left and right. Ted Cruz's favorite movie is Princess Bride.
Ted Cruse probably knows every single lie. I know. Ted
Cruz and Rob Reiners don't share the same politics. But
Ted Cruz loved Princess Bride, loved the creation of Rob Reiner.
(06:27):
And I think, no matter what you think of Ted Cruz,
the last thing I think he would do is behave
is horrendously and is inhumane. And that's what this was.
As Donald Trump did about this, there are many people,
whether it's spinal tap, whether it's when Harry met Sally,
whether it's All in the Family, which, by the way,
(06:47):
a program that sort of promoted dialogue between people that
disagree him. The liberal son in law are Chiep Bunker
a more intellectually honest version of Donald Trump, at least
one with empathy. And I'll tell you it is. It
(07:07):
is one of the things that I've pledged to do
with what I want to do here is to try
to be a bit more dispassionate about Trump, because there
is there is you know, some people are so focused
on Trump. We've got to figure out how do we
how do we prevent the next Trump? And how do
we move past Trump? How do we get past this?
We're better than this. We have we have, we have
(07:29):
real we should have real debates between how big or
small government is, how much you know, how high or
low taxes should be? You know, whose responsibility should it
be to provide healthcare? These are important debates. I think
the distinctions between left and right are interesting and should
be negotiated and should be debated. Donald Trump is not
(07:51):
a right winger a left winger. He is he is.
He is a virus of polarization right. He is sort
of the symptom of polarization at its worst. He is
exploitive of the situation in order to garner power. But
you know it is. He is not representative of real conservatives.
He is not representative of normal acting human beings, regardless
(08:15):
of where they are in the political spectrum. Who know
that when there's a tragedy in my goodness, the man
has not been buried yet, his family and friends are
still trying to figure out what the hell happened. There
hadn't even been an arrest yet at the time that
he puts out this tweet. And again, you could sit
here and say, oh, we're obsessing over a mean tweet.
(08:35):
But he's all of our representatives right at the end
of the day, our president is our president. And it
is embarrassing. It is classless. And I'm going to quote
my friend David Brodie of the Christian Broadcasting Network. He
put it in another way. He just he called it
sad because what it tells you. It says so much
about who Donald Trump is. Right, he is a man
(08:56):
with you know, I've brought this up before. He is
so broken emotionally. He has no there's no set of
people that are his friends. The reason he has to
go out to the mar A Lago dinner table all
the time and to celebrate with is he has no
personal friends people. It's clear there aren't people that people
(09:17):
that are around him because they want to be close
to power and they think they can grift him or
exploit him. People don't hang around with him. Maybe they
hang around him because he's he's entertaining for all the
wrong reasons, Like you can't believe what he'll say, you
can't believe the gossip he wants to gossip about, so
he's like shut He's sort of like a shock jock. Right,
it's entertaining, but you realize you don't want to leave
(09:40):
your kids with him. You don't want your grandkids to
learn from him. You don't want people to copy that behavior.
And you know, he it's so funny. He's so desperate
to be famous, and he's so desperate to leave a legacy.
(10:04):
He's leaving a legacy, and it's people are gonna, they're
gonna they're going to race to erase him in different ways.
You know, he's trying to force his way onto the
zeitgeist of America. Right, he's going to insert himself into
America's two an and fiftieth birthday. He wants to put
his name on the Kennedy Center. He wants to put
his name on the White House, so that you know,
(10:25):
there's the Truman Balcony and there'll be the Trump Ballroom, right,
he wants he's hoping that that's somehow going to give
him something that I guess life has not been able
to give him. Right. He has been sort of one
of the most successive failures in American history. Right, He's
a failed casino owner, a failed developer, a failed an
(10:50):
owner of golf courses, meaning that He's never made money
on these businesses, and only his political power and fame
has allowed actual value to created with his developments and
all of this stuff. But he was actually failures at
all of those things. Probably the most successful thing he
was able to do was have a TV show in
The Apprentice, that was a failure, a success until it
(11:14):
became a failure, and ultimately he's going to be considered
a political failure. He knew how to get elected, he
knew how to get campaign. But when you behave this way, right,
it's everybody I'm sure that has had a moment where
(11:36):
you've had a tragedy in your life. You always remember
the people that surprised you and that positive or negative,
And this is one of those where in some ways
Trump isn't surprising by his behavior, but I think this
is one of those where even those that want to
(11:58):
defend him and I look, I know that there are
people that voted for Donald Trump who didn't like them,
and in fact, he is sort of the you know,
I call it the a whole constituency, right, meaning there
are people who believe politics is so seemly, seeming unseemly,
it's so such a such a sort of pit of
(12:20):
grimy people and grifters that hey, guess what it's going
to take an a whole to govern and to get
involved in politics. I know there's some people think that, right,
I mean, there's you know, I happen to believe that that, yes,
there's no doubt is a griminess to politics. There's the
metaphor that, you know, the sausage you don't want to
(12:42):
see the sausage, the sausage made in how Congress acts.
But I think a lot more of us want to
know that we have. You want the president to be
able to go high and low, and this president only
knows how to go low. As president, never knows how
to go high. And anytime he's even tried to pretend,
(13:04):
he's always reading so you know, sort of directly in staccato,
like from the prompter, it's clear he's never personally felt
these feelings. And again, all you have to do is
look at it. You know, he's His personal relationships don't
last about every six years, he has a new band
(13:24):
of advisors. This goes back through his entire professional career.
I've studied it, going all the way back to when
he got his start with his father, in the early seventies,
and whoever was in his inner circle lasted somewhere between
six and eight years, and they were gone, and they
were gone because he wanted him out and they want
it out. Right. Michael Cohen is just one of the
(13:45):
you know, the most recent examples of John Kelly. And
there is a pattern here, right. Everybody who breaks away
from him never has anything nice to say about him,
and it's because of moments like this. And he did
his inability to read a room, his inability to be
(14:05):
an American before he's a partisan exploiter of our polarization,
and that's what he did. It's gross, it's sick, and look,
it's going to get an outsized amount of attention. And
you know, some of you may even be criticizing some
of us that are trying to bring more attention to it, right,
And this is a case where we could chase every outrage,
(14:26):
and I try not to chase every outrage, but this one,
this one really pissed me off because it was one
of those things where I just I was just feeling
so down about humans, right, about society, about what happened
in Australia, about what happened to brown and then you know,
you realize how much Rob Reiner sort of created so
(14:50):
many things that sort of defined pop culture for gen X.
I mean, I've probably seen a few Good Men more
parts of that movie more than any movie I've seen,
maybe pulp Fiction and Big Lebowski would be second and third.
For those of you that know me, I just it's
(15:11):
Rob Reiner deserves to be celebrated. And I'm I'm hardened
to see so many normal left and right thinking people
on social media be disgusted about how the president's behaved
over this. But this is one of those moments and
when you're when when Republicans are trying to figure out, boy,
(15:31):
why are they you know, why is it harder to
motivate the base and why is it harder to win
over swing voters? He's becoming less likable every day and
when he and this is one of those other things politically,
the economy is not feeling great and he's behaving unlikably,
it's a toxic mix that actually can accelerate the perception
(15:53):
of he's losing its status, right, And that's the other
thing you have to ask yourself, like this is we
know as you get older, the filter goes away. We
know he's never had much of a filter as it is,
but I actually think Donald Trump of eight years ago
would have had a little bit more, a little bit
(16:15):
more of a small g governor on himself about this
moment and maybe have at least waited a few days
before doing what he did. But to insert himself the
way he did, because ultimately he thinks everything is about
him and every moment is about him. And just to
imply the disgusting implication that somehow this murder had something
(16:43):
to do with Donald Trump is just it to me,
should be a red flag that there's something wrong in
that Oval office at the moment, and perhaps more people
need to speak out. We've talked about that in the
previous administration. Are if you see something, say something, as
anybody in this inner circle willing to say, whoa this is?
(17:07):
You know, do we have an issue here? Do we
have a problem here? Because this was this is this
is unhinged. And if put it this way, if any relative,
and I'm guessing, and I'll just speak for myself, if
I had a relative that sort of behaved this way,
I'd be questioning what was going on inside their lives
at the moment that this is how they're thinking. You're like, wow,
(17:30):
you are living in a deluded world in a moment
that that maybe you ought to you ought to not
be making very important decisions at the moment. So look,
I think this is It's both revealing and not surprising,
and yet the gut punch in the shock is awful.
(17:52):
So I don't know. I think this is one that
will you know, nothing lingers in the Trump era, but
some things, you know, this may be this, this may
stick to him for a little bit longer than usual,
especially by doing this sort of in this moment that
he chose to do it. All right, I just thought
i'd check in on that. If you want more of
(18:14):
this or I've got uh please check out the The
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or anywhere else you go. Thanks for listening. H
Well, I'm coming to you after the news I taped previously.
I taped the episode on Sunday evening, but before we
found out about Rob Reiner. And I'll be honest when
I think about the introduction to the episode earlier for
my podcast, and it was focused more of what happened
in Australia. You know, by the time I woke up
Monday morning, it was felt like a totality of just grief,
(00:26):
you know, had sort of been piled on top of us.
Whether you're thinking about what happened at Brown University, what
happened in Australia, and then just the gruesome attack on
Rob Reiner and his wife and the murder of those two,
it was just collectively, you know, just you wake up
(00:47):
in sort of a funk, feeling just really just I
can't you know, look, look, everybody processes these things differently.
I don't want to assume other people are processing but
you're just feeling really just down, you know. I happened
to Actually, my wife and I just watched spinal Tap
(01:10):
two Friday evening. It was you know, there we were
looking for something to watch. We finished Ploribus and we
weren't ready to fall asleep. We had seen the new
sort of that, and I was like, oh, I've been
meaning to take a look. And I think the second
Spinal Tap finally started streaming this weekend, so it was
getting certainly promoted on my algorithm because I am a
(01:31):
gen xer, right, I am the target audience for this.
And in fact, my wife and I and were remarking,
just you know, not all of these sort of throwback
sequels work, right, You've heard me say Naked Gun didn't work.
But this one worked, and it was sort of it
was because Reyner knew, you know, I just understood whatever
it was. He just sort of he understood what Spinal
(01:53):
Tap was trying to be, what they were, and it
was just sort of it was just well done. Not
all those sequels are easy to pull off. Sometimes they're
just simply money grabs. This one didn't. It felt sure
there was a there was there was an opportunity, but
it felt like it was well constructed, well thought out,
and had the right right amount of throwback and look forward.
(02:19):
And then I saw what the President said about Rob
Reiner and it was so disgusting, It was so awful,
It was so classless, and I know we're all exhausted
from being exhausted by him, right, But at the end
of the day, whether we like it or not, the
President of the United States is our representative, is our
(02:40):
collective representative. And you know, I certainly go into the
voting booth thinking about that. You know, is this person
the best representative of America? You know, and a moment
when you need somebody to put the country first, at
a moment when you need somebody to be empathetic, does
this person have that skill set? And look, we've had
presidents that have been better at it than others. Some
(03:01):
are really good at it. They just have that that,
you know. Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, all
three of them always felt like, you know, they met
moments when they when it needed to be done. Ronald
Reagan would meet moments when he'd done. H. W. Bush
Actually he had a harder times at times. It maybe
explains why he didn't get a second term. Right. Bill
(03:24):
Clinton just had had that extra factor to it. But
in general, we've always had a president that knew how
to put you know, sort of not put them insert
themselves into everything. And you know, just to the comment himself,
the idea that the President the United States implied that
(03:48):
Rob Reiner's political disagreements with Donald Trump or what got
him murdered. It's essentially what he's saying. Can you just
pure and utter in sanity to think that that's a
level of sick narcissism? And I'm not going to sit
here and say I'm an expert at trying to diagnose people,
(04:09):
But my god, how narcissistic do you have to be
to assume everything is about you, that everything is about
this moment about you, and you have to assert you know,
there's the cliche, you know, the famous quote about Teddy Roosevelt.
He wanted to be the bride at every wedding and
the corpse at every funeral. I mean, this is a
form of that mental illness on display for all of
(04:34):
us to see. But you know there are times, you know,
on one hand, look, I think we're all used to
it by now. Look, I believe the reason he didn't
win reelection in twenty twenty is his inability to have
empathy during COVID Right, he just was not the person
we wanted to deal with that moment. He was not
handling it well, he was not understanding it. He was
not getting it, and it was just like give you know,
(04:55):
we need some we need some restoration of normality. And
Biden was seen as sort of a comfortable figure, a
previous vice president. He sort of he knows how, he
understands the rules of the road. He will do those
basics right, you know, he will show the right amount
of empathy. He will work, you know, not try to
exploit people the way the way the way Trump can
(05:19):
be so exploitive of a moment and you're just sitting
there and you know our inability, you know the fact
that Donald Trump is trying to always make somebody's politics
the first thing you think about, rather than anything else
in their lives is what's broken about America right now?
And he broke it right. He is exploiting this moment.
(05:40):
He is right. The social media companies and Donald Trump
have collectively have tried to break us this way, and
he is he is broken, and he is trying to
apply his broken lack of empathy, lack of emotion on
the rest of us. But he wants to apply politics
to every thing. When Rob Reiner's artistic work deserves to
(06:04):
be celebrated as a great American period, Okay, no matter
his politics, he provided art that entertained so many of
us left and right. Ted Cruz's favorite movie is Princess Bride.
Ted Cruse probably knows every single lie. I know. Ted
Cruz and Rob Reiners don't share the same politics. But
Ted Cruz loved Princess Bride, loved the creation of Rob Reiner.
(06:27):
And I think, no matter what you think of Ted Cruz,
the last thing I think he would do is behave
is horrendously and is inhumane. And that's what this was.
As Donald Trump did about this, there are many people,
whether it's spinal tap, whether it's when Harry met Sally,
whether it's All in the Family, which, by the way,
(06:47):
a program that sort of promoted dialogue between people that
disagree him. The liberal son in law are Chiep Bunker
a more intellectually honest version of Donald Trump, at least
one with empathy. And I'll tell you it is. It
(07:07):
is one of the things that I've pledged to do
with what I want to do here is to try
to be a bit more dispassionate about Trump, because there
is there is you know, some people are so focused
on Trump. We've got to figure out how do we
how do we prevent the next Trump? And how do
we move past Trump? How do we get past this?
We're better than this. We have we have, we have
(07:29):
real we should have real debates between how big or
small government is, how much you know, how high or
low taxes should be? You know, whose responsibility should it
be to provide healthcare? These are important debates. I think
the distinctions between left and right are interesting and should
be negotiated and should be debated. Donald Trump is not
(07:51):
a right winger a left winger. He is he is.
He is a virus of polarization right. He is sort
of the symptom of polarization at its worst. He is
exploitive of the situation in order to garner power. But
you know it is. He is not representative of real conservatives.
He is not representative of normal acting human beings, regardless
(08:15):
of where they are in the political spectrum. Who know
that when there's a tragedy in my goodness, the man
has not been buried yet, his family and friends are
still trying to figure out what the hell happened. There
hadn't even been an arrest yet at the time that
he puts out this tweet. And again, you could sit
here and say, oh, we're obsessing over a mean tweet.
(08:35):
But he's all of our representatives right at the end
of the day, our president is our president. And it
is embarrassing. It is classless. And I'm going to quote
my friend David Brodie of the Christian Broadcasting Network. He
put it in another way. He just he called it
sad because what it tells you. It says so much
about who Donald Trump is. Right, he is a man
(08:56):
with you know, I've brought this up before. He is
so broken emotionally. He has no there's no set of
people that are his friends. The reason he has to
go out to the mar A Lago dinner table all
the time and to celebrate with is he has no
personal friends people. It's clear there aren't people that people
(09:17):
that are around him because they want to be close
to power and they think they can grift him or
exploit him. People don't hang around with him. Maybe they
hang around him because he's he's entertaining for all the
wrong reasons, Like you can't believe what he'll say, you
can't believe the gossip he wants to gossip about, so
he's like shut He's sort of like a shock jock. Right,
it's entertaining, but you realize you don't want to leave
(09:40):
your kids with him. You don't want your grandkids to
learn from him. You don't want people to copy that behavior.
And you know, he it's so funny. He's so desperate
to be famous, and he's so desperate to leave a legacy.
(10:04):
He's leaving a legacy, and it's people are gonna, they're
gonna they're going to race to erase him in different ways.
You know, he's trying to force his way onto the
zeitgeist of America. Right, he's going to insert himself into
America's two an and fiftieth birthday. He wants to put
his name on the Kennedy Center. He wants to put
his name on the White House, so that you know,
(10:25):
there's the Truman Balcony and there'll be the Trump Ballroom, right,
he wants he's hoping that that's somehow going to give
him something that I guess life has not been able
to give him. Right. He has been sort of one
of the most successive failures in American history. Right, He's
a failed casino owner, a failed developer, a failed an
(10:50):
owner of golf courses, meaning that He's never made money
on these businesses, and only his political power and fame
has allowed actual value to created with his developments and
all of this stuff. But he was actually failures at
all of those things. Probably the most successful thing he
was able to do was have a TV show in
The Apprentice, that was a failure, a success until it
(11:14):
became a failure, and ultimately he's going to be considered
a political failure. He knew how to get elected, he
knew how to get campaign. But when you behave this way, right,
it's everybody I'm sure that has had a moment where
(11:36):
you've had a tragedy in your life. You always remember
the people that surprised you and that positive or negative,
And this is one of those where in some ways
Trump isn't surprising by his behavior, but I think this
is one of those where even those that want to
(11:58):
defend him and I look, I know that there are
people that voted for Donald Trump who didn't like them,
and in fact, he is sort of the you know,
I call it the a whole constituency, right, meaning there
are people who believe politics is so seemly, seeming unseemly,
it's so such a such a sort of pit of
(12:20):
grimy people and grifters that hey, guess what it's going
to take an a whole to govern and to get
involved in politics. I know there's some people think that, right,
I mean, there's you know, I happen to believe that that, yes,
there's no doubt is a griminess to politics. There's the
metaphor that, you know, the sausage you don't want to
(12:42):
see the sausage, the sausage made in how Congress acts.
But I think a lot more of us want to
know that we have. You want the president to be
able to go high and low, and this president only
knows how to go low. As president, never knows how
to go high. And anytime he's even tried to pretend,
(13:04):
he's always reading so you know, sort of directly in staccato,
like from the prompter, it's clear he's never personally felt
these feelings. And again, all you have to do is
look at it. You know, he's His personal relationships don't
last about every six years, he has a new band
(13:24):
of advisors. This goes back through his entire professional career.
I've studied it, going all the way back to when
he got his start with his father, in the early seventies,
and whoever was in his inner circle lasted somewhere between
six and eight years, and they were gone, and they
were gone because he wanted him out and they want
it out. Right. Michael Cohen is just one of the
(13:45):
you know, the most recent examples of John Kelly. And
there is a pattern here, right. Everybody who breaks away
from him never has anything nice to say about him,
and it's because of moments like this. And he did
his inability to read a room, his inability to be
(14:05):
an American before he's a partisan exploiter of our polarization,
and that's what he did. It's gross, it's sick, and look,
it's going to get an outsized amount of attention. And
you know, some of you may even be criticizing some
of us that are trying to bring more attention to it, right,
And this is a case where we could chase every outrage,
(14:26):
and I try not to chase every outrage, but this one,
this one really pissed me off because it was one
of those things where I just I was just feeling
so down about humans, right, about society, about what happened
in Australia, about what happened to brown and then you know,
you realize how much Rob Reiner sort of created so
(14:50):
many things that sort of defined pop culture for gen X.
I mean, I've probably seen a few Good Men more
parts of that movie more than any movie I've seen,
maybe pulp Fiction and Big Lebowski would be second and third.
For those of you that know me, I just it's
(15:11):
Rob Reiner deserves to be celebrated. And I'm I'm hardened
to see so many normal left and right thinking people
on social media be disgusted about how the president's behaved
over this. But this is one of those moments and
when you're when when Republicans are trying to figure out, boy,
(15:31):
why are they you know, why is it harder to
motivate the base and why is it harder to win
over swing voters? He's becoming less likable every day and
when he and this is one of those other things politically,
the economy is not feeling great and he's behaving unlikably,
it's a toxic mix that actually can accelerate the perception
(15:53):
of he's losing its status, right, And that's the other
thing you have to ask yourself, like this is we
know as you get older, the filter goes away. We
know he's never had much of a filter as it is,
but I actually think Donald Trump of eight years ago
would have had a little bit more, a little bit
(16:15):
more of a small g governor on himself about this
moment and maybe have at least waited a few days
before doing what he did. But to insert himself the
way he did, because ultimately he thinks everything is about
him and every moment is about him. And just to
imply the disgusting implication that somehow this murder had something
(16:43):
to do with Donald Trump is just it to me,
should be a red flag that there's something wrong in
that Oval office at the moment, and perhaps more people
need to speak out. We've talked about that in the
previous administration. Are if you see something, say something, as
anybody in this inner circle willing to say, whoa this is?
(17:07):
You know, do we have an issue here? Do we
have a problem here? Because this was this is this
is unhinged. And if put it this way, if any relative,
and I'm guessing, and I'll just speak for myself, if
I had a relative that sort of behaved this way,
I'd be questioning what was going on inside their lives
at the moment that this is how they're thinking. You're like, wow,
(17:30):
you are living in a deluded world in a moment
that that maybe you ought to you ought to not
be making very important decisions at the moment. So look,
I think this is It's both revealing and not surprising,
and yet the gut punch in the shock is awful.
(17:52):
So I don't know. I think this is one that
will you know, nothing lingers in the Trump era, but
some things, you know, this may be this, this may
stick to him for a little bit longer than usual,
especially by doing this sort of in this moment that
he chose to do it. All right, I just thought
i'd check in on that. If you want more of
(18:14):
this or I've got uh please check out the The
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