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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We are joined now by President Trump, who was so
fired up by what he saw happen in the Olympics
that he wanted to weigh in. So I appreciate you
calling into the show, mister President. Let me start with
this though. I got concerned Buck was too that the
final interview you might do for your whole life was
going to be on this show, because we talked to
you Friday afternoon, and then Saturday you went up to
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Pennsylvania and you were doing the rally and you came
within about a quarter inch of taking a bullet to
the head, and you took one to the ear instead.
So the first thing I should say is, think the Lord,
you're still alive.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Well, it was pretty amazing actually, according to a lot
of people that know about shooting, like my sons and others,
and they thought it was pretty amazing. And you know,
a great person was killed. I got to know his
family very well. Corey and the two people were very
badly injured. Actually they thought they maybe probably wouldn't make
it and they're going to be okay, they're going to
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be fine. But they went through a lot and it
was a bad day. It was a bad day, no
question about it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We talked to Don Junior up at the r n
C and he said that they were all terrified, as
we all know in the in the family, but that
he decided he wanted to make a little bit of
joke and he asked you about whether your hair was okay.
Can you confirm that that was true and that your
hair was came through fine.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
My hair is good. My hair is good. My ear
was a little bit hit, to put it mildly, but
my hair was left alone.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
That's true, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
All right, let's dive into this. Your granddaughter did an
amazing job. She's a great golfer. We met her, I
think up at Bedminster with you and you took her
out on the course. I know you've been playing with
her a great deal before we get into the Olympics.
In particular, if you found out that she was going
to have to compete against men in golf, you know
the difference. There's ladies teas for a reason. There's a
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tremendous difference. What would you say, as a grandfather, leaving
aside to being a president running for president, all of
those things, what would you say, you're a big sports fan,
just about being fair if you found out that your
supremely talented golfing granddaughter was having to compete against men, Well.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Golf is different. It's first of all, it's a huge
disadvantage anyway, but golf is a lot different than being
punched in the face like that young lady from Italy
was today. Well, she took two shots and she said,
I'm out of here. I never got hit like that
before in my life. And she was supposed to be
a very good boxer, but she said, this is crazy.
But golf's a little because you still have to be
able to putt and other things. But even in golf,
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you know, there's a big difference in distance. That's why,
as you said, better than anybody. That's why they have
the ladies sees and the men's t's and all of that.
So obviously it's you know, a big part of what
I say, one of the things that gets the biggest aplay,
it's just about and it's I have other things that
are very important, like the border. We got to close
the wall. You gotta drill, baby, drill order that. But
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one of the things he gets the biggest applause. And
you know this because you've been to many of the rallies.
I had a great one in Harrisburg last night. It
was unbelievable, actually, And what gets the biggest applause is
we will not allow men to play in women's sports.
And you know, I usually use weightlifting as a good example.
You could use swimming, you could use a lot of
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different but weightlifting is so good. But I think it's
been replaced by boxing because this young lady said, I've
never been hit like that. It was like getting hit
by a horse. So I mean, she took two punches
and she said, that's it. I'm out, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
What do you think about Kamala Harrit's It's incredibly coincidental
because today Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have rewritten Title
nine so that it now includes gender identity. So if
a man wants to identify as a woman, as you
just mentioned, that thing has gone viral everybody reacting to it,
they wouldn't let that person fights as a woman because
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it didn't fulfill the biological requirements. Man beats up a
woman in the Olympics. What did you think when you
saw that video.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well, they've gone. This is where they've been. They've gone,
you know, into the whole thing with men can do
anything they want, they can go into the locker rooms,
they can do whatever they want. They transition and they've been.
That's where they've been. And people don't understand it. To me,
you know, I say, we run a campaign on common sense.
The Republican Party in Maga is about common sense, probably
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more than it is about being conservative or anything else.
That's common sense. We want to have a strong border,
we want to have low taxes, we want to have
good education. We don't want to have men playing in
women's sports. But this is where they are. The whole
party is crazy, and they took him out. They did
a coup with him, and it wasn't a friendly coup.
It was a vicious coup. You know, he had all
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the votes and they just said we'll do it the
easy way of the hard way, and they took come out.
You know, from my standpoint here, we are working against him.
He's down for the count practically, and it's like if
you had a fighter like Dana White, the Great Dana White.
You have a fighter and he's not doing well, and
you take him out, you put somebody else in. But
I don't think she's going to do well because her
policies are so bad. I mean, she wants open borders,
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she wants the all electric cars in a very short
period of time. No more gasoline powered cars or hybrids
or any of that. It's just ridiculous. This the country.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Look you here to.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
The rest of the world when you hear yourself and
jd Vance called weird by Kamala Harris, who believes that
a man should be able to win a women's boxing championship,
that a man should be able to be a women's
swimming champion. We had Riley Gaines on the show earlier.
Who's the weirdo there? What's weird actually letting men pretend
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to be women and win championships or just saying women's
sports should be played by women.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Well, they're the weird ones. And if you've ever seen
her with a laugh and everything else, that's a weird
deal going on there. They're the weird ones. Nobody's ever
called me weird. I'm a lot of things, but weird.
I'm not, and I'm up front and he's not either.
I will tell you JD is not at all.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
They are.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I mean, who wants to have open borders where prisoners
that's weird. We're prisoners and we're mental institution patients are
taken out of hospitals and jails and they're let into
our country. That's weird. Who would want that policy? Who
wants the men in women's sports policy? Who wants to
quadruple your taxes? The whole thing is weird. And the
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way they do elections is weird. And no, they're the
weird ones. But you know what it is. It's a
sound but you've been watching it. Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.
It's all it's sound by and the press picks it up.
Do you notice the evening news. Every one of them's talking.
You know, they introduce the word weird, and all of
a sudden they're talking about weird. Now, we're not weird people,
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We're actually just the opposite you.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I don't know if you heard this yet, but a
little bit earlier, Joe Biden, I don't know if Joe
Biden knows anything I think you kind of showed that
when you knocked him out on June twenty seventh and
ended his political career.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I know you saw me on Jesse Waters.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I mean, we've never seen a knockout like that talking
about it, and I know you posed as he dropped out,
but he was just talking about Russian hostages and he said,
you didn't get Evan Gersovitch back, even though Evan Gersovitch
didn't become a hostage until he became president. I want
to let you hear that, and hear what he said.
(07:35):
I mean, his brain's mush, we know that, but I
want to let you hear it.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Sheff has said.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Repeatedly that he could have gotten the hostages out without
giving anything in exchange.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
What do you say to that?
Speaker 7 (07:45):
What do you say to President Trump?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Now to former president why didn't he do?
Speaker 8 (07:49):
Who he is president?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Okay? I mean, how crazy is this?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, he's incompetent, and you know he was so adjudged
by his own his own if you take a look
his own council, if you look at the prosecutor who
we called a prosecutor, they call it a council. And
he came out and he said with respect to the
document's case. He said essentially that he's incompetent. You know,
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that was an interesting thing. He's incompetent to stand trial,
but he's allowed to be president. That's a very interesting thing.
Can't stand trial because he's grossly incompetent.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
No, fascinating.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
No, I heard that. I heard he said this. Why
didn't Trump get him out? And he was taken during
that time? You know, I got out fifty nine different people,
fifty nine and I didn't pay money. I didn't pay money.
You know, once you do that, these deals are going
to happen more and more because the amount of things,
including cash, that we give up is so astronomical. This
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is a big deal. And they allowed some really rough
people out, you know that, right, And they did the
case of Britney Griner also they allowed what was.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
The merchant of death.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
They traded her for the merchant of death, which is
maybe a worse trade than our friend her back in
the day.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
The greatest arms dealer in the world, you know, And look,
these are rough deals. To make these deals sometimes you
have to be different. But we got out fifty nine
without having to pay. I got people out of North
Korea that you don't get tougher than that.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Last question.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Last question for you, because I know I told your
team you had to run. You've got a ton of things.
Last question for you. Can you pledge that when you
are president, men will not be winning women's championships, That
you will reverse these Title nine rules that I can't
believe we even have to have this discussion, but that
men will compete in men's sports and women will compete
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in women's sports, and this will be ended once and
for all.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
From day one. From day one, it'll be ended. It'll
be ended, and there'll be no tax on tips, and
seniors won't have to pay tax on Social Security. And
we'll do lots of different things the seniors. You know
that's been really hitting the seniors paying tax on Social Security.
It's a lot and we're not going to do that.
So all of that, but I can tell you one thing.
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Men will not be playing in women's sports. And you
guys can write it down, Mark it down, and never
speak to me again. Although that might be an honor
for me, it'd make my life easier, but never speak
to me again if I violate that. Nope, it won't happen.
When you look at this young lady from a different country.
What difference does it make? Just look and say, oh man,
what hit me? I just got hit by a horse,
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and she just I've never seen that. We're two jabs
and she said, I've had enough, and you know you
can't take it. It's ridiculous. The whole thing is ridiculous.
The whole country is a laughing stock. Our country has
become a laughing stock all over the world. That we're
going to change it and we're going to make America
great again, and you guys know it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Amen, mister President.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
By the way, it's the thirty sixth anniversary of Russia
emboss starting this show that Buck and I get to
do every single day. So it didn't plan on this
because I didn't think this crazy story was going to happen.
But I appreciate you calling in and sharing with the
audience and fighting the good side of the fight Fight,
Fight Fight, one of the most amazing things we've ever seen.
Thank you for the time, sir.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Thank you, and Rush would be proud of you.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I can tell you that I knew him well.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
He was great. He's really missed.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Have a good time. Thanks fellas.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
No doubt that is President Trump absolutely fantastic. We'll break
down that with you when we come back. But he
wanted to reach out and just let all of you know,
not on my watch, we're going to end once and
for all men being able to compete against women.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And just think about how crazy that is.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Would you have ever believed a decade ago that the
future president of the United States would have to call
in and say, hey, guys, just want you to know
when I beat Kamala Harris, who's crazy on this issue,
among many others, We're going to once and for all
end men being able to compete as women. I sometimes
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I think you have to take a step back and
think about how far down the road to crazy town
and we've really gone. Thirty six years after Rush started
this show, President Trump's like, hey, can you know, we
reach out. We want to make sure that we address
this issue. Just absolutely bonkers that we could ever be there.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
You're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
They are all in on this warp speed Kamala campaign,
perhaps ludicrous speed for the space Balls fans. It is
a three month presidential campaign, really, is what you're seeing.
Because we're basically in August, so August, September, October and
vote ninety days to convince the country that Kamala Harris
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is the leader that we need in this moment, which
I can't even really say without starting to chuckle a
little bit, But here's what we have to take seriously.
All the Democrats are now mobilized and on the same page.
We had a summer of fractured Democrats because of the
Biden fiasco of the debate. They didn't put the full
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force of the apparatus behind Joe Biden. Now they are
absolutely doing so. And then some with Kamala Harris, they
are playing the gender card, the race card, all the
cards and all the DEI apparatus that they can utilize. Here, Clay,
they're doing it. And we've got a couple of things
groups that have emerged, and I think they're official. There
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was a White Dudes for Kamala group that had a
conference call yesterday, which we'll get to, and also a
White Women for Kamala group. Let's start with White Dudes
for Kamala includes Joseph Gordon Levitt. I think the actor's
Jeff Bridges, an excellent actor, but you know, unfortunately this.
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I hate this. Why can't I know why? I asked
the question quickly. So many of these great actors are
communist morons and they're just good at one thing, and
they're good at acting, but they don't understand the.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Reality of the world we live in.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
But Governor Tim Waltz, who is very important in the
state of Minnesota because Democrats think that they can defend
that one, I think pretty easily, given Waltz sitting where
he does in the state. He was on the White
Dudes for Kamala call. That's what. By the way, that
is what they call it. I want to be clear,
I'm not like mocking it by calling it to white
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Dudes for Kamala. That is their self description. Here's the
governor of Minnesota explaining what their mission is.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
Here's the great news. How often one hundred days do
you get to change the tr directory of the world.
How often one hundred days do you get to do
something that's going to impact generations to come? And how
often in the world do you make that bastard wake
up afterwards and know that a black woman pick his
ass and send him on the road, And you know
that's something that guy's going to have to live with
for the rest of his life.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Clay, this is the Kamala. The Kamala for President campaign
is essent actually going to turn into a blitz kreeg
of nonsense. It's going to be all in on telling
us things that are not true as fast as they can.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think it's actually the most authentic version of the
Democrat Party right now because it's all based on identity politics.
Nothing matters except what you look like. They had white
women for Kamala, black women for Kamala, black men for Kamala,
white men for Kamala, all specific race based events that
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are designed to define yourself by your identity politics and
on some level, coming out of COVID, I think the
most clarifying election we could have had was Ron DeSantis
against Gavin Newsom. We talked about that they're the two
biggest states that adopted the most diametrically opposed leadership. DeSantis
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was right on everything, Gavin Newsom was wrong on everything.
We may wait till twenty eight to see a race
like this, but right now what we have, which would
not have occurred if Joe Biden were still at the
top of the ticket, is a direct identity politics election. Now,
Joe Biden hinted at this during his twenty twenty campaign,
sometimes quite explicitly, like when he said, if you're not
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voting for me, you ain't black, when he said Trump
will put you back in chains. All of those things
are direct calls to identity politics. But Democrats in twenty
twenty actually wanted to have an unthreatening, old white guy
that they selected to run against Trump because they thought
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people in the Midwest would respond better to Scranton Joe
Biden than they would have to Bernie Sanders or Kamala
Harris or Elizabeth Warren or any of the other and right, Unfortunately,
and now that mask is off, that old white grandpa
mask that they put on Joe Biden, which was never
an accurate fit, but they were able to characterize him
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that way. Now it is entirely identity politics based, and
you will see I think, nakedly aggressively race based demagoguery
in this race to a level that we haven't seen
in a very long time. And I think this is important, Buck,
because if you go back, and I know it seems
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like ancient history now, but if you go back to
Obama two thousand and eight when they elected Obama two
thousand and eight, when the country did, which is, by
the way, I think the only election in the twenty
first century that nobody fought right. People were like, Obama
beat McCain, whatever you'd think of politics. I think everybody
acknowledged that election, whereas in every other election there have
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been people saying, oh, it was stolen, cheated both directions.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So Obama two thousand and eight actually was a America
is so awesome that my candidacy is possible.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
It was Bill.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Clinton nineteen ninety two, like the Man from Hope. It
was Ronald Reagan nineteen eighty. Obama two thousand and eight
had more in common with those two campaigns and anything else.
By twenty twelve, it was nakedly partisan identity politics, race politics.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
To get him VLM started under Obama.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It's worth remembering to get him reelected.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Certainly, Hillary in twenty sixteen was I'm a woman, It's
time to bust the ga glass ceiling. Let's send a
message about how inclusive America can be. By Hillary twenty sixteen,
it was one hundred percent identity politics. They actually vanished
on identity politics because of COVID. I think on some
level and just put in an old white guy and
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tried to say, oh, he's Scranton Joe, he's you know,
he's the guy who will return normalcy. Now we're right
back to an even more aggressive version of identity politics
with Kamala.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Right.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
It's a bit like what was the after Warren G.
Harding passed away when he was in office and Calvin
Coolidge took over. I think the whole premise was just
keep things normal, you know. It was just we're not
gonna do anything. We're not gonna we're not gonna shake
things up. And with Biden, it was, hey, this guy's
been in politics forever. Nobody really knows what he stands for,
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but you know, things are scary out there, and so
we'll have a guy that will just not only will
he make things normal, he'll bring the country together. It
was all a total lie. I mean, I would offer
that a lot of the central promise of Obamaism from
two thousand and eight was also a total lie, as
we saw over the the following eight years. But in
this case, it's interesting, Clay, because there's there's the lack
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of subtlety on the media's part to try to promote
these narratives that generally, and then this is a little
secret from the from the radio business or podcast listening
or anything. Right, frequency is its own power. This is
true and a lot it's true in basic advertising on TV.
You see commercials on TV and you're like, Ah, I'm
not gonna go buy that particular type of you know,
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drain cleaner, Like, but if you see it ten times,
all of a sudden, you're in the store and you're like,
you know what, the drain cleaner. That seems like pretty
good deal to try that one out, you know, yep.
And what you have with the Democrats now in politics
is generally in an election year they can rely on
the flood the zone strategy on messaging over a period
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of time, and that gives them a tremendous advantage the
way that CBS News is going to cover things, the
way that the New York Times, the La Times, the
Miami Herald, the Chicago Tribune, and et cetera, et cetera.
Because they have had a candidate switch so late later
than this has ever happened before. It's worth noting this
is all totally unprecedented. They are having to compact that
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entire propaganda strategy into a ninety day period. So, I mean,
you're totally right, this is about identity politics, but it's
not going to be a little story here, a little
story there, drawing people along to hope, but they slowly
persuade them. It's just like jd Vance is so racist.
I mean they're just coming out and saying crazy stuff.
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We even have you want to play this clip? I
saw you tweeted this one out.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
Molly jung Fast, who is like a left wing loon
journalist type on MSNBC. She says that jd Vance only
wants white babies in America.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Play this clip.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
That's are there more and more Americans choosing not to
have kids, which again emphasizes why Jade Vance's comments about
childless Americans childless caladies could be so politically damaging.
Speaker 10 (21:24):
Well, so what's interesting is this is this natalism that
comes from an authoritarian playbook, right, that there need to
be more white children. Right, that's the idea that there's
you know, this is about great replacement theory racism, right,
this is what this is. So don't misunderstand it. For
him wanting more children, he wants a certain kind of
you know racist thing.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Jd Vance only wants white babies play As you pointed
out in your there's a problem with this, Yeah, this
premise she has, why don't you tell everybody with the problem.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Of this his kids are mixed race.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And look, the idea is so ridiculous, kind of just
just that.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Makes them brown under left wing theory. Just to be
very clear, like my little nephew is half brown, therefore
he qualifies as brown.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I would submit to you that choosing to have a
spouse who is a minority and having under these definitions
minority children three of them would be pretty strong evidence
that jd Vance doesn't just want white babies, and that
if you were remotely honest as a television network when
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that is said, you would push back and say, well,
to be fair, jd Vance himself actually has mixed race kids.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Did you see the one of these left wing journalists.
And this is the other part of this, just to
be clear, because they're having to speed this up, and
because they've just turned the dial up to eleven on
the propaganda, the EDOC is going to be more free flowing.
Because there was some left winger who came after jd
Vance's wife saying, well, you know, why don't she should
support all the immigrants like her, And some people are like, yes,
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the immigrant who was born in California to two US
citizen parents. By the way, the argument is a stupid
one anyway, But they don't even know the basic facts
because they're just trying to manufacture a perception right.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Off the bat here and also just not even basic research.
There are lots of ways that you can attack JD Vance.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I think it.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I would love to know whether she knows this and
just lied and didn't care. But the network, to me,
has an obligation as the host to point back and say, well,
you know, he does have three mixed race kids. And
by the way, I think I can speak for JD
on this. I think what he would certainly say is
we want more babies born in America to American citizens.
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I mean, like, I can't believe this is considered controversial.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I sit around.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
You know, we have to hear about climate change and
exidential threats to the world. If you look at population trends,
Japan's population is collapsing, China's population is collapsing. It'll population
is collapsing. If you look at the trends. Right now
in the twenty first century, we may have already peaked
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at global population. There is a projection by the end
of this century that the world population will be half
of what it is now. And once you start that's
not gonna happen. Once you start to decline in population,
once the average woman doesn't have two point one children,
population collapses in a hurry, like what's happening in China
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right now.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Yeah, And you need you need a you know, you
need a new generation of humanity in order to continue
all of the prosperity and the advances and the research
that we already have, right I mean, at some level,
I know people say, well, AI will kick in and
everybody will just be served by what was that show?
(24:50):
The Jetsons? I just feel like it was a great show, which.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Is said in the modern day, by the way, we're
all supposed to be flying around in air cars by now.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
But I do think that that if you were to
look at the countries that have particularly strong future and
also look, it's important for national defense, important for a
whole range of reasons. But jd vance advocating for families,
the fact that advocating to have families is a controversial
point in America. Shows you, I think where the Democrat
Party is right now. It's like we're all supposed to
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be in the matrix before we're red pilled, kept in
some pink sludge and just sort of sucked of our
energy to have the apparatus continue.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
To rule over us.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We have ever believed there would be a political attack
on an American political candidate for saying that he wants
everybody to have more babies. I mean, yeah, Democrats are
the party of stopping a million babies a year from
being bored through abortion.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
So they're actually but.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
They're even more explicit on it now, Like it's not
even just the abortion. It's like, hey, like this it's
racist and anti anti What I mean this is I
can't even believe that this is now the argument that
Evans wants too many babies to do you want to.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
See Democrats heads really explode, start to use They use
the disparate impact formulation to undermine so many other wise
legitimate laws or ideas. They should look at the disparate
impact numbers in the abortion industry.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, for who is.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Overwhelmingly being aborted and what those numbers are and then
you have to wonder, why do they not care about
this one?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in
Politics with Clay.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Travis en Box Sexton.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Senator Ran Paul was up on Capitol Hill during the
biggest news story really of certainly the day on the
domestic front, which is the Secret Service hearing. Senator Paul
was there. He was asking questions and he is fresh
off the floor and joining us now, Senator Ram Paul,
always a pleasure to have you. Sure, thanks for making
the time for us.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Hey, guys, thanks for having me. Yeah, we had quite
the hearing combined Judiciary and Homeland Security to probably twenty
five thirty senators, and we had the new head of
the Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You were there.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
We were doing the show during it, so we were
pulling it on the fly, the cuts and clips and
quotes as we could. We wanted to just let you
tell everybody, Senator Paul, your biggest takeaways as somebody who's
been in this game a long time and knows what
to expect, what were the most important things.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Well, if you compare the new director to the old director,
there's night and day difference. She went and answered the
questions she came only to obstruct the truth, and she
was an awful administrator, and she had never been in
the job, and I think was a political hire. This
guy seems to have been in the Secret Service for
quite a while. He seems like a straight shooter. He
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said there will be disciplinary hearings. He's not saying who's
going to be fired or will they be fired, but
he's the least saying that are going to be disciplinary hearings.
He said in his opening added my questioning that it
was not defensible. It's indefensible to leave that rooftop open
and not have snipers on that. He says he's changed
the policy. They don't get a choice. Now there will
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be Secret Service snipers on any building. One of the
things that didn't come out in the hearing, but it
comes out when you see some of the photographs of this.
The Washington County, which is a neighboring county to Butler County,
had a sniper team there for the local police. They
were three hundred yards away on the other side. And
this hasn't been mentioned much, but they stationed snipers three
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hundred yards away from the stage, but then failed to
stations snipers one hundred yards away. So I mean, just
it was completely ineptitude. But it's also when your job
is to protect lives, if you fail that job, it
means you can't get it again. It doesn't mean you're
a bad person, you made a terrible error, but it
means you don't have the confidence to be in that position.
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And so I said, you know, the world wants to
know there'll be accountability, but the world also wants to
know that these people aren't going to be at the
next Trump rally guarding him, and that they're not going
to be in charge of the Democrat National Convention. And
he kind of said they weren't, but then he kind
of said, well, we can't really talk about who they
are because they're still there working. And it's like, well,
maybe they need to be at a desk job for
a while till we figured out, you know, how they
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could have left that roof open, and how they let
a suspicious person go ninety minutes the gas fline drones
at three point fifty one in the afternoon. He cited
at least a half a dozen times, they take pictures
of him all over the place. He's walking around the
backpack in it within ar fifteen that he unfolds on
the roof after running across four roofs, being spotted by
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the crowd, and still nobody warns the President to leave
the stage completely. To my mind, in Defensive one.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
We're talking to Senator Ran Paul.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
When I hear these guys testify, whether it's the chem
cheetle who was fired or the new acting director, what
I really want to hear to the details you just
gave are from let's say, the sniper who took out
this shooter in the Secret Service? Will we hear testimony
from actual Secret Service agents on the ground that day,
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as opposed to kind of an elaborate game of telephone,
which is the director testifying as to what someone told him,
as opposed to hearing directly from the people on the
ground that day.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
We have a bipartisan note insisting on that. So Chairman
Peters is a Democrat from Michigan. I'm the ranking Republican
on homand security. The letter's been signed by the two
of us, plus another Republican and another Democrat insisting on
individual interviews from the Secret Service. Now, he said, is
hearing it's going to happen, but we don't want it
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to happen in six months or six years. We want
it done. We gave him till all this ninth now
they have not officially responded to that, but it acts
like it's going to happen. But what gives me some
misgivings is the Secret Service is investigating this, you know,
for possible disciplinary action. They have not interviewed any of
the local So it's a couple of weeks now and
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they have not interviewed any local police. Our congressional staff
went last weekend, four different Senate officers went to Butler
County and we interviewed the local police officers. So and
we're not even you know, we're the oversight for the public,
but we're not the disciplinary committee. We're not the Secret Service,
and they haven't interviewed anybody from the local police. It
also concerns me that there's a little bit of pointing
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fingers from the new director saying, oh, well, the Secret
Service assigned that to the local police. Well, we've interviewed
the local police and they say they brought up the
strategic problem of leaving the roof unattended, And the Secret
Service says, we've got this. You do what you're told
and they never told them to be on the roof.
So it's a little bit of he said, she said.
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But in the in the end, though, it doesn't really
matter who's in charge. If you are the charge, if
you are the CEO of this battlefield, if you're in
charge of safety for Butler County, you can't do this again.
You failed in your job because you left a roof
unattended with a direct line of sight, and you didn't
stop the proceedings when you had a suspicious person reported
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upon by multiple officers for ninety minutes. How could you
not have an all points bulletin with people rushing around
and getting that kid if they had gotten him, he
was on the roof at six oh six, he's rushing
and running across four roofs to get to his shooting position.
All you had to do is get him any time
between four fifteen when you spot him and six oh
six when he gets on the roof and stop him
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because his backpack hasn't an AR fifteen. Then he's going
to be stopped and it's going to be foiled. And
one man wouldn't have lost his life and Donald Trump
wouldn't have almost been killed. So it's just it's a
tragic comedy of errors but really malfeasance. And you look,
it doesn't mean the person's a bad person. They probably
feel upset that they missed this too, But it's such
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a profound judgment are that you can't do this again,
and you just preclude yourself from that kind of responsibility
for a job ever again.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
So I'm glad to hear that you guys have requested
and potentially are going to be able to talk to
the guys that were actually on the ground that day.
Would that be a public hearing, would that be a
closed hearing? What would that look like for those of
us out here who want to get the full story
of the failures that day.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I can understand not wanting them put them up because
there is a little bit of political grandstanding where people
are yelling back and forth each other. I do think
the officers deserve more respect than that, and so I
think it should be transcribed and we should do first
private interviews that will be part of a public record,
and I think that saves them sort of. So for example,
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the person in charge, we have the names, they won't
they're not making the names public, but we've asked for
ten specific individuals to be interviewed. We've already interviewed the
local police ourselves, we've been there, but those ten people,
I think they should get to be interviewed without people
yelling and screaming at them and hear their stories. Compare
the different stories, because there's probably going to be different stories.
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The local police are going to say one thing. I
think Secret Service is probably going to say another thing.
But then there are some things that really they're saying,
Oh well at six oh eight when people seem on
the roof, they never told the Secret Service until right
before the shots were fired, and it's like, well, you know,
they say, oh are they're broadcast walkie talkies don't communicate
with ours, Andam's like, you know, what kind of world
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do we live in? You could go out in a
a in a Best Buy and buy two hundred walkie
talkies on the same frequency that broadcasts out loud and
say hey, why don't you go all carry them for today?
And they will take them next week when Trump's in
Las Vegas. Send somebody else will It's not rocket science
to figure out how everybody could be on one channel.
Simply been giving everybody an extra device that communicates with
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the local broadcast, but the local police chief or whoever's
in charge of the security from the local position is
supposed to be standing next to the Secret Service commander
in a command post. So when they hear the broadcast
that his officers are searching frantically and have seen someone
in a roof. The second some one said there's a
gun a roof. That's at six o' eight. You have
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three three and a half minutes till the shooting starts.
So you have three minutes, which doesn't sound like a
long time, but that's plenty long enough for a broadcast
message to get out to have taken Trump off the stage.
And it may be if he's just motivated to kill
Trump and he doesn't fry the shots and kill the
other people either, you know, kill the other the local
fire chief, if Trump were taken down. So yeah, it's inexcusable.
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Three minutes is a long time, But at the same time,
you know, you don't want to denigrate the officers. I mean,
the marksman sniper that took the shooter out did it
with one quick shot within I think within fifteen seconds
of the shots being fired. But really, that's why you
have security those to try to make sure you know
that's done before he gets a shot off.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
Speaking the Senator Ram Paul of Kentucky Senator Paul, are
are there any unanswered questions in your mind when it
comes to the shooter? I mean, we know the motivation
was to kill Donald Trump obviously, so people talking about motivation,
but in terms of whether he had any assistance, whether
there are any other actors that played any role in
this whatsoever, anything about training, anything about social media? Are
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there are there further unanswered questions that you're looking into
on that score? Do you think that we that you
know now with the access you have, what you need
to know?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
You know, since the it's an absence of knowledge on
the social media right now. So it's not that they
haven't found much. That doesn't mean they won't find anything.
And I think the FBI is still pursuing that he
did communicate on some encrypted platforms. And you know, some
of the people who don't you want to destroy all encryption,
are like, oh, why don't we just get rid of encryption.
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When you have a warrant, you can go to any
company that has encryption and they have to divulge the
contents of the communication. So I'm not sure I understand
the problem unless it's a company outside the US that
we don't have control of. But if it's a company
that encrypts messages within the US, they'll accept a warrant
and they should unencrypted messages and we should be able
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to get those. But no, there's nothing really right off
hand that I know of that we're missing about motive.
It's a little surprising to most people that there wasn't
more political discussion, more motivation that the ODD today mentioned
that there is a bunch that they have found like
two hundred some odd messages, but they're not positive it's him,
but they went ahead and released that today at the hearing,
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and so I think once we know more for certain
with that, I think the amazing thing about this to me, though,
is this shooter's picture has taken half dozen times ninety
minutes four but the last pictures taken of him as
six oh five. The shooting happens at six ' eleven,
so it's six oh five. He's on the ground with
a backpack. It's a big backpack and probably the guns
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in it, but they don't locate him. It's six oh six.
He gets on the roof, but the roof is of
four different buildings that are connected to each other by roofline.
Is to hop up and down four or five feet
at a time. But he's got to make fifty yards
on the roof from where he hops up where they
think he hopped up. He's got to run fifty yard
yards with the gun, lay down and assemble it. And
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he's just on the roof at six oh six and
then he starts shooting I think at six eleven and
three seconds, so really he's got five minutes to traverse
fifty yards on the roof. People are yelling at him,
Hey got a roof, Look got a roof. You know.
Police see him at six oh eight. I guess they
don't see the weapon, but they see him, which means
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probably at six o eight he's still carrying the backpack.
But he's got to be pretty fast by the time
he lays down at six oh eight or six oh nine,
he has to assemble the gun and then you know,
the shots are fired at six eleven and he's killed
fifteen minutes fifteen seconds later.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
What were the snipers?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Do we know yet?
Speaker 7 (38:43):
What were the the the good guy snipers? The counter
sniper teams looking at, if not the nearest roof, which
was entirely unsecured.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
They are looking in that direction. I think they're warned,
and so, you know, for people say there was no warning,
sure there was warning at five point forty one, and
the Secret Services notified that there's a suspicious individual with
a rangefinder. And to most of us, we think that
that's enough warning that they should have taken Trump off
the stage. Secret Service is pushing back and saying, well,
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that's kind of suspicious, but not enough, you know. To me,
it's obviously not enough to shoot somebody. You don't shoot
somebody the rangefinder, but somebody with the rangefinder in a
big backpack who the local who have been following for
ninety minutes. Obviously the proceedings should have been stopped, and
they should have They should have located him, and they
would have gotten him, maybe before he got on the roof.
But I think they're looking towards his position because they
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get a message to look at three o'clock, and three
o'clock's on a dial pointed towards where the shooter is.
So the ones you see on the roof behind President
Trump are looking in the direction of it. They don't
know he's a shooter, and they don't know he has
a gun. They're being told suspicious individual. The people on
the roof behind President Trump also can't see where he's
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going to shoot from. They're not the ones that show.
There are trees between him and the snipers on the
roof behind President Trump. There are snipers farther. So if
President Trump is speaking to the crowd to Donald Trump's left,
there are counter snipers from the Secret Service, maybe another
twenty or thirty yards to President Trump left and above
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him either another barn or another high spot. They're the
ones that take the shot because they can see him
on the other side of the tree. And even with that,
you have to realize it's a pretty remarkable shot to
them because they have to do it stantaneously, and he's
hiding behind about a five inch tall aluminum at the
apex of the roof. It's not a real steep roof,
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it's fairly flat, but the apex is a little bit
of illumin siding. He's kind of down below, but he's
got to get his head up a little bit and
he's got to put his gun over the tip. But
they do it and take him out with a single shot,
which by most people. This is why I don't want
to get tapped in the idea that, oh, we're just
going to beat up on the Secret Service. I think
buying large. There incredible people. This discounter sniper is a
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I don't know his name, but has a long history
apparently one of the great martsmanship of being, you know,
a hero.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
So yeah, Senator Paul, appreciate you being with us today.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Thank you. Senator. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (41:19):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
I want to pivot here to what happened yesterday with
Trump at the National Association of Black Journalists. Kamala Harris
did not appear. We are now in the I believe
eleventh day, it might be the twelfth day, where Kamala
Harris has done zero interviews, has actually answered zero questions
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from any journalists, has not done a single event off
of the teleprompter since she took over the campaign from
Joe Biden. They are going to run the weekend at
Bernie's two campaign with Kamala Harris, not even with Joe Biden.
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Remember all the media out there that was demanding Joe
Biden to a press conference, Joe Biden do interviews. I
haven't seen any of the same media demand that Kamala
Harris do anything. They are going to try and hide her,
just like they hid Joe Biden in twenty twenty. At
least then he was old and he had COVID. But
the lesson they took away was if we don't do
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any challenging interviews, our candidates don't get exposed. Meanwhile, Trump
will go anywhere and talk with anyone, and when he does,
and those interviews are combative, it's used against him. We're
not playing by the same set of rules. And we
said this on this program. We had RFK Junior on
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I believe multiple times. We have invited Gavin Newsome on
this program. We've invited Joe Biden on this program for
four straight years. I would gladly so would buck have
Kamala Harris on this program, and we would ask genuinely
tough questions, fair questions. Sometimes some of you have gotten
(43:17):
mad at us because we've been too hard on the
people that we've interviewed who are Republicans. Mike Pence won't
come back on the show because I pressed him, I
think fairly on whether he believed that Trump should be
put in prison for the rest of his life, and
whether if he were president, he would keep that from happening.
Mike Pence wouldn't really answer, So I don't want to
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deal with hypotheticals. Well, sorry, that's offensive to me. The
entire purpose of a presidential campaign is to deal in hypotheticals.
All you do is tell us what you would do
if you won the election. That's how campaigns work. So
when you try to dodge a question, I'm offended, as
I would be if I'm a listener. Buck couple of
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years ago got into Christy Nome. People were not happy.
Sometimes when you ask tough questions and the questions aren't answered,
there is an opportunity, I believe, even an obligation on
the part of the show, to get answers to questions
so that you guys can make better decisions. So we
would welcome I'd welcome Joe Biden right now if he
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called in. I would welcome Kamala Harris right now if
she called in. I would ask all sorts of questions.
I would ask a question not as combative as the
one that Trump started with.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
At the NABJ.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
But for those of you who didn't hear it, I
just guys, can you stop it right after the question
because I think Trump actually did an okay job answering it.
But I want to on the fly answer this question
as I think Trump could have answered it if he
had delivered a perfect response to a question that we
should have seen coming. This is how the National Association
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of Black Journalists and ABC News reporter how she began
the interview with Donald Trump.
Speaker 11 (45:07):
You have told four congressmen women of color who were
American citizens to go back to where they came from.
You have used words like animal and rabbit to describe
black district attorneys. You've attacked black journalists, calling them a loser,
saying the questions that they ask are quote stupid and racist.
You've had dinner with a white supremacists at your Mariologue resort.
(45:28):
So my question, sir, now that you are asking black
supporters to.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Vote for you, why should.
Speaker 11 (45:34):
Black voters trust you after you have used language like that?
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Okay, so that's the opening question. Not Hey, great to
see you, appreciate you giving us the time. Thanks for
getting on your airplane flying all the way to Chicago
and having the decency, unlike Kamala Harris, to answer questions
and address us directly.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
None of that.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Trump walked in to the Lions Den and they went
after him.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That was the opening question.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Now, in an ideal world, Trump would have responded, Now,
I don't have anything written down.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
I don't do teleprompters. You guys know this. But in an.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Ideal world, here's what I wish Trump would have said.
I wish Trump would have said, Well, first of all,
it's great to see you, appreciate you guys having me here.
I'm looking forward to record levels of black support because
a lot of people are seeing through the lies incarnate
in the question that you just asked. I'll answer your
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question here momentarily, but first let me pivot and ask
you a question, and ask all of you in this
gathering of black journalists here a question as well. Have
you ever asked Kamala Harris a question like that to
start off an interview? And led with a couple of
questions that I think are actually pretty significant. First of all,
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you called Joe Biden a racist in your failed twenty
twenty presidential campaign. On the stage, Joe Biden said he
didn't want his kids to go to a racial jungle
for school.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
One day, you reference that Kamala.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Have you ever asked Kamala how she could justify serving
as vice president for a man that she believed and
was publicly willing to say, was racist. I don't know
that Kamala Harris has ever been asked that question. That
seems like a pretty significant question. You also had Joe
Biden in He said you ain't black if you don't
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vote for me. He said Republicans were going to put
you back in chains. Have any of you ever pressed
Joe Biden on that question and asked him why your
race should dictate how you vote? Because I think that's insulting. Now,
pivoting back to your question, I'm sometimes a jerk. Occasionally
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I may behave like an ass, but the one thing
I'll say is I don't treat anybody differently. If a
black person asks a stupid question, I call him out
on it. If you, as a black woman, leads off
the interview in a contentious manner in a way that
you never would if Kamala Harris were sitting here, I
think that's racist of you. I'm going to call that out.
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I believe, for better or worse, that everybody should be
treated the exact same. Does that sometimes mean that, as
you pointed out, I might be a little bit glib
and a little bit mean and a little bit unfair,
maybe even to journalists, because I think a lot of
you are worthless.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, it does, But it.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Doesn't mean that I think black people, Asian people, Hispanic people,
or white people should be treated differently based on your race.
You know why, because I'm a Republican. That's what Democrats believe.
So the reason I came here is to cut through
all the fluff and all the lies that you guys
regularly peddle and sit down and directly tell Black voters,
Hispanic voters, Asian voters, white voters, I want all your
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votes because I'm going to be the best damn president
you've ever seen. Okay, that's me, unscripted, no teleprompter.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
That answer.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
If you're not gonna deliver home run answers, don't go
to people who hate you and expect that it's gonna go. Well,
that's my biggest thing on the NABJ imagine. And I'm
not saying that's the perfect answer. I think it's close
to a perfect answer. Imagine if Trump had done that.
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Imagine if he had delivered that response that I just gave. Now,
his response wasn't awful. I shared it. I think it
was a solid single to left field. But if you're
gonna do these interviews, you have to swing for the fences.
You have to try to hit grand slams with the
bases loaded. We know Kamala Harris is not gonna do him.
She's not gonna come on this program. Open invite, Kamala.
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You're saying Trump's a coward because he won't debate you. Okay,
here's the reality. You are a coward because you won't
come into a show like this and sit down and
talk to this audience and respect them for twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
You won't do it.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
Open invite anytime, any place, anywhere. We'll even tape Kamala Harris.
Open invite for Joe Biden. He's had one for four years.
Come on this show, actually ask challenging questions.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
They won't do it. If they're not.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Going to do it, why should Trump do it? I
get some of you out there. You want to beat
your chest and say, oh, he'll go on anywhere. Yeh,
does he actually persuade anybody with the way that interview went.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
With the NABJ.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Gambling odds drop five percent after that interview that he
was going to be the next president of the United States.
Now maybe they'll come back. You guys know that I
like gambling odds. That's the market at large saying this
was not a positive for Donald Trump. What did he gain? Yes,
he showed up. You knew what questions were coming. If
you're not willing to put them in the upper deck,
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why are you swinging the ball swinging the bat. This
is a conversation I have all the time with my
team at OutKick. I say, singles are good. You make
a good living as a as a singles hitter. But
when somebody hangs a curveball for you, you got to put
it in the upper deck. That opening question, to me,
you knew it was coming. It was a hanging curveball.
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Trump hit a single, and then there were later moments
where I don't think he even got base hits. I
don't think he benefited from that interview. Now some of
you are going to say, oh, he totally you're already
voting for him. We're roughly ninety days out. To me,
Everything that Trump does for the next ninety days should
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be designed to try to persuade people who otherwise wouldn't
be voting for him that they should.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
The bass is in the bag.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
I would crawl on broken glass at this point to
get my vote in Donald Trump. My wife right now
is working because it's primary day in the state of
Tennessee where we are. I mentioned that she's concerned about
voter integrity. She's working volunteering all day at our local
voting place to make sure that she's getting all the
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votes in the best way that she can. Same way
that I would encourage all of you if you're fired
up about the election integrity where you live, donate, volunteer
your time and actually make a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
But what does he gain?
Speaker 3 (52:33):
And I'll open your calls. Maybe there's something that I
am missing here. If you're doing something that the other
side won't do, and you're being judged harshly when you
do it, what would the headlines be of Trumpet stayed
all day at Mar a Lago yesterday and just flown
to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania and done his event. I think they'd
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be better for him. I don't think the gambling odds
would have swung by five percent. I think a lot
of people saw that and said this was an unforced error.
If Kamala is not playing by the same rules, if
the media is not even going to demand that she
come off a teleprompter, does Trump gain by coming off
the teleprompter and going into the lions? Then I just
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want you guys to be thinking about that. Would you
fight a tiger if the other side wasn't I don't
think I would. Can Trump play with the lead? These
are big questions. I think they're important questions.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in
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Speaker 7 (53:48):
The political situation with Kamala Harris is is getting Ah boy,
it's going to be a close race.
Speaker 5 (53:57):
Everybody.
Speaker 7 (53:58):
I was hoping it wouldn't be here. I was hoping
this would not be how this plays out, But it
is going to be I think pretty close. We have
the latest Susquehanna polling says Harris ahead four points in Pennsylvania.
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We'll talk more later about how Pennsylvania's Governor Shapiro maybe
and is favored currently in the betting markets to be
the vice president for Kamala Harris. I still think Mark
Kelly is a very high up on that list. I
think it's Hammer, it's Shapiro. I still would I still
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would probably go with Mark Kelly of the two. We'll
discuss why Mark Kelly was on. You know, I was
watching Morning Joe this morning and putting down my copy
of Kamala's Way, the biography of HERUS that I have.
Now I'm becoming a Kamala Harris expert. I will have
you know in real time. I even have her autobiography,
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which was sold out because of the run on this.
Now no one read this thing before, but now she's
the presidential candidate, so we've all the journals, all the
media folks got to read. It was like out of
copies on Amazon. So anyway, I've got that coming. So
I'm reading the Kamala books. So I will be a
Kamala expert. I know. This is the dedication that I
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have for all of you. Just think about that for
a moment, like there's I could be reading Thucydides instead,
I'm reading the Kamala Harris autobiography. Yay, But that's where
I am. I got to make sure I know what's
going on here. She is four points ahead Mark in
Pennsylvania according to according to one poll. I know it's
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just one poll, but they're going to point to this
now they're trying to create a sense of Kamala momentum.
And then there's Mark Kelly on Morning Joe this Morning.
We'll get to this, Uh, Joejoe Biden was supposed to
be before he stepped down, and I really think we
can say was shoved aside.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
He wasn't.
Speaker 7 (56:10):
He didn't step down. Joe Biden did not look at
the numbers and look at things and say, you know what,
I'm going to do what's best for the party. No,
he decided that he would do what he had to
do because the party bosses came to him and said
or else. But he was going to be the DNC
in Chicago closing speaker. Isn't it amazing way history doesn't repeat?
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But at rhymes right, nineteen sixty eight Chicago DNC convention.
Here we are party in disarray, a lot of lunatics
running around, of course Democrats, and it's going to be
in Chicago. But Biden was going to be the DNC
closing speaker as the as the party's nominee. And the
latest on this is that apparently he's speaking on the
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convention's opening night to talk about what a great job
his White House has done before he is once again
shoved decide so that the focus can be entirely on
Kamala Harris. And it turns out that Kamala Harris is
the only candidate to qualify for the Democrat Party's presidential
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nominating ballot according to the DNC. So the fix is in,
or perhaps it has been fixed in Kamala's favor. Her
VP pick is coming up next Tuesday. We're going to
be told when Kama's VP or who the VP will be,
which I think is very interesting. But there's something else
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these ads that have started to come out here. You know,
I understand that in politics you're gonna sometimes feel like
the other side is lying, but when it comes to
the Harris campaign, this is the most overt gas lighting
I can remember in the American political sphere, for certainly
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for a presidential election. You know, when Obama was running
in two thousand and eight, I knew what we were
getting into.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
I knew he was a radical.
Speaker 7 (58:10):
I knew that they were covering up stuff. But you know,
he's he was somebody who didn't have a long history
in public life, and so they were able to largely
get away with the fabrication of Obama. In fact, his
two books, which did he write these books? His two autobiographies.
I always said, that's a huge red flag if you're
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a guy who's not yet even fifty and you have
two autobiographies. Wow, But his two autobiographies. But it was
all a construct, and the Democrats were very savvy about it.
They found somebody who was a good spokesperson for the
construct of Obamaism, and they were able to make that work,
and he was president for eight years. As we know,
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the problem they have with Kamala Harris is that she
has been a senator and now vice president and has
set things in an era when a lot more is
captured also and put on the internet. You know, so
we have endless Kamal eclipse where she is talking about
amazing things like being unburdened by what has been. And
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we know this, we can see it, we can hear it.
So when they try to rewrite the history, they're doing
so with full knowledge that you and I know they
are liars. And if you're wondering how much or how
strong they are gonna how strong are they're going to
pursue this tactic. They are claiming that Kamala Harris, the
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failed Borders are who we will all remember, sat down
with Lester Holt of ABC News and remember this. We
should pull this clip guys for later, just through just
a little trip down memory lane. He said, Kamala, have
you been to the border, And she said, We've been
to the border, and he had to look at her like,
I mean, no, l you haven't actually like sorry, like
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there's a lot I could do for you here, but
you haven't been to the border. So why haven't you
been to the border. And then she said something like
you know, well I've been to Europe.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
And everybody was just wow, you know.
Speaker 12 (01:00:16):
This is this is the person that this is like
the third VP of the HR department at some you know,
middle tier company that's making parts for printers or something,
and you're just amazed.
Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
That this person has a job where you work.
Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
You go, wow, this person's in charge of something.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I'm yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
That was Kamala's That was Kamala's moment. She is now claiming, though,
after after saying she wasn't the borders are Remember that
they tried to run away from that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
That was a few days ago.
Speaker 7 (01:00:50):
Now it's that she is really tough on the border.
I wanted you to hear this is Kamala Harris her campaign
and add about how good she is on border issues.
Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Is cut three play it on the border. The choice
is simple.
Speaker 9 (01:01:07):
Kamala Harris supports increasing the number of border patrol agents.
Donald Trump blocked a bill to increase the number of
border patrol agents. Kamala Harris supports investing in new technology
to block fetanyl.
Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
From entering the country.
Speaker 9 (01:01:22):
Donald Trump blocked funding for technology to block fentanyl from
entering the country. Kamala Harris supports spending more money to
stop human traffickers. Donald Trump blocked money to stop human traffickers.
Kamala Harris prosecuted trans national gang members and got them
sentenced to prison. Trump is trying to avoid being sentenced
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to prisons in this election.
Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
Why let's let's it okay, Notice how everything they say
about Kamala Harris is she wanted to spend money in
unspecified ways that can be vaguely associated with.
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Something at the border.
Speaker 7 (01:01:59):
That's the best they can do for her, because we
all know that when Kabalaharis was the borders are what
did she do? She flew to Central America and gave
the American people from these countries that she was visiting
lectures about how we have to deal with the root
causes in those countries that are making people come to
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this country, because.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
It is our fault.
Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
That's right, it is our fault that people somehow everyone
wants to come to America, but America does all these
bad things all the time, according to Democrats, and they
never see that as in any way in conflict these
two thoughts. Everyone wants to be in America, but America
is so bad and horrible. The other thing is when
you talk about resources for the border or more money,
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that means nothing. The problem is there are too many
illegals coming in because Democrats want them to come in.
And we know this because well everything, but also there
have been plenty of illegals who have showed up at
the border and said I'm here because I want some
of that Biden amnesty that I know is coming. They've
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more or less said just that they've showed up with Biden.
They've truly showed up with Biden t shirts on That
is a thing that has happened because they know that
the Democrats want to import the third world. They want
to import people from poor developing countries with no English
language skills, with limited, if any education in any language,
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so that they will become dependent on state resources, enlarge
the bureaucracy, and create a massive and undefeatable, unbeatable, better word,
real word, unbeatable pool of voters going forward to effectively
change the demographics of this country for all time and
change therefore the politics and the nature of this country
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for all time. That is the plan. We know it.
That they've said it. They're very open about it, actually,
And to say that you want to put more money
forward and that that somehow deals with this. No, if
you won't deport people, it doesn't matter. We have a
system right now that they will refuse to address. It's
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even more complicated than that. They could do a lot
more at the border, they just choose not to. They
could turn people away, and they could deport people, and
they would change the incentives. And if they change the incentives,
then you would have fewer legals. But they won't. But
they won't even tell you that. This is the part
that's so gross. That's so wrong. Kamala Harris is effectively
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an open borders zelot who is now with ninety days
give or take before the election, running as a border
hawk who wants to secure the border. And you and
I can sit here and roll our eyes and say,
what just what mendacity, what an absurdity, But you know
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what they think. If they can just fool enough people
some of the time, they can be in charge all
of the time. That's the plan. You got to hear
what they say about Trump on the border too.