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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Trump saying that he is not going to debate again.
I think I said yesterday, Clay, I don't think he will,
and I don't think he could. I didn't put a
bet on this one because I'm sick of having to
buy you expensive stakes. But or I guess we're even
Stephen as of a few weeks from now. But I
decided that it was probably in Trump's best interest. That
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seems to be I think the move for him right now,
given where the polls are and everything else. I know
you want to dive into some internal reporting at CNN
about internal polling on the Kamala side of things that
is encouraging for Trump. Look, you've got people that are
coming out and saying, at the election were held today,
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Trump would win. You've got some others who are saying
if the election were held today, Kamala would win. No
surprise there. Nobody really knows the answer, and nobody will
know until election day. All Right, I feel very strongly
that Trump is ahead, but not by a lot. I
think he's ahead, but this is this is a tight race,
and it's gonna come into the final stretch and yeah,
(01:16):
I think that's remember clear we were at the Kentucky Derby.
We had so much fun. We're entering the phase where
you know, the horses are running and everyone's like, oh,
the horses are running, and it's like, oh, I think
I saw them. And then when they get into the
final stretch, because we're near the finish line, everyone stands
up and there's all that electricity and excitement. It's gonna
be like that. Okay, no one's getting lapped here, and
the horses are gonna be right on top of.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Our Boss Julie Talbot from Kentucky took us to the
finish line of the Kentucky Derby and it was amazing
for those who did not know she and her husband Michael.
And that is where we are now full sprint for
the next fifty three days.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, the crowd is standing and at that last stretch
with the final final leg of the race happening right
in front of us. So that's where we are. A
couple of big things keep in mind. First off, the media,
I really just think that Their strategy at this point
is to run through the run through the end of this,
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taking as many hits and shots as they have to
on behalf of Kamala by lying for her about things
that are easily disprovable. I'll get to one of those
in a second. And we also have an idea that
Clay and I were texting about yesterday that we want
to raise with you. Maybe we've already raised it to
the Trump campaign. Maybe we've already said, hey, guys, here's
a good idea. But I think that the media, Clay
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knows that they're gonna have to lie about a lot
of things because Kamala's got huge, huge vulnerabilities based on
what she has been saying. For Oh, I don't know
her entire life in public office. And here's one of them.
This is a new Trump ad. They said that she
didn't after that debate. They said Kamala didn't support transgender
operations on illegal aliens in prison, because that's quite a mouthful, right,
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problem is, she did. Here's this Trump ad play three.
He did things that nobody would ever think of.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Now she wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens
that are in prison.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
This is a radical left liberal Paris Voice support for
cutting funding for ICE and for using taxpayer money to
fund transgender surgery for detained migrants.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
In twenty nineteen, tax.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Pair funded gender transition surgeries for detainment Chain Marke actually
said she supported.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
She wrote both wrote and answered in the affirmative.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
When she was asked this, and she said, you just
supported it for federal prisoners.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
These are things that you know, you would be hard
to think that you would come up with taxpayer funding
gender transitions for for detained migrants.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
This was just a couple of her positions back then,
Clay there, I really just think that they're hoping to
continue to just take these shots and push through whatever
the damage to their credibility is what they don't They
don't care.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
They've got to go all in for Comma, even if
it means blowing up their credibility at every step.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I do think Buck, this is where twitter x being
owned by Elondilk makes a big difference, because I don't
know if you paid attention to this, but the community
notes section on Twitter has become very valuable because people
like Jamal Bowman, people like the New Yorker Writer, a
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lot of them came out and said, hey, this is
a crazy thing that Trump said during the debate that
Kamala Harris wants to provide sex change operations funded by
taxpayers for illegal immigrants in detention centers as well as criminals,
and she actually did. And our friend Ryan Gerdusky was
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on CNN when Van Jones tried to make excuses for
Kamala Harris by saying, yeah, you know, the whole Democrat
Party kind of lost its mind in the twenty twenty campaign,
and Ryan shot back, Yeah, BLM was the cause of
all of it, but really it was everybody was trying
to get left of Bernie and left of Elizabeth Warren
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because that's how they thought they ended up the nominee
against Trump. And so Kamala came out with all these
crazy left wing propositions, and unlike in twenty twenty when
it might have been stifled or when the and it's
so important fact checkers might have been given precedence. I
saw buck. I loved it is that the Seattle Post,
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whatever the main newspaper is in Seattle, came out and
said Trump lied about parts of Seattle being taken over
by protesters during twenty twenty, and then community notes fact
check the actual Seattle newspaper with an article from them
about Chaz. I mean, are they just going to pretend
that didn't happen? The autonomous zone that was taken over
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in the center of Seattle by protesters, and so the
lies are getting recognized. My question is are they sort
of swing voters who are open to them seeing them?
You and I are, most of our listeners are. I
think it's puncturing through the bubble of left wing of
the lies, but I'm not sure it certainly is doing
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more than in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So here's our idea, and we're hoping that some of
our friends from the Trump campaign who listen to the
show as often as they can, some almost every day,
as I understand it. Here's our idea. And I will
note that people have been saying this. This has been
percolating on x on Elon's platform. Trump should hold a
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town hall in Springfield, Ohio, where we get to hear
from the residents of this town what's really going on.
They we get to have it presented for everybody to hear.
I don't want to hear David Muir say, I called
the city manager. What does the city manager do, I.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Mean, and why would he be honest if he's trying
to protect the city, why would he say honestly anything
that's true to your point?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You know, I'm supposed to make sure there's no potholes
and like you know, the electrical grid doesn't go down
or whatever, and you know, calls the utility company. I mean,
I don't know what a city manager in Springfield's doing
day to day, but I do know that he is
not omniscient and doesn't have the answers to what has
gone on everywhere. He's not the cops. Okay, he's not
somebody who's even on the front line seeing what's happening.
And I just think it's kind of funny, like, oh, well,
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since you talk to the city manager, I guess we
have to think that everything's fine. Other it's a city
manager democrat that anyone even find out? Do we know
it's a city What are the chances of democrat? Pretty high.
I'm not saying he is. Maybe he is, Maybe he is.
I think he is. Well there you go, Oh, what
a shock, the city manager who's a Democrat. He's probably
a big tim Walls fan. Anyway, I think that we
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need to have Trump with the people of Springfield having
an open conversation. Remember if Fox News, that's the obvious
place for it to be house. Sorry, we're radio not video,
so I have to seed this one.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I would love it to be yes, although if nobody
else will do it, you and I would go and
host a town hall in Springfield with Trump. We would
be happy to do that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I'm totally you, totally doing That's actually a good idea.
I like where Clay's head is out. But anyway, someone
just needs to do it, because here's here's what happens
now when you have when you have this this call
it content reporting, whatever you want to say. When it's
out there now, it filters out throughout the rest of
the ecosystem, and it puts pressure on the legacy media
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that is carrying all of the water for the Harris
campaign right now to have to at least deal with
this reality because it can reach a critical mass where
if they don't address it, they're losing the messaging war
on it. We have to do this. Unfortunately, all the
time they lie about Trump. We can't just let the
lie sit out there. We have to address it. And
you know, the cycle is rinse wash and repeat every day. Clay,
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we both know that if we're talking, we're texting about
this yesterday, if we get the people of Springfield out there,
I forget everyone wants to make it about the dogs
and the cats living together, mass hysteria, whatever. That's not
even what I want to focus on. What has happened
to this town under Biden Harris's watch.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yes, that's it, and that's why I would go do it,
and I think for people out there. So Springfield is
emblematic of a lot of towns in America that had
a culture before the Biden Harris administration suddenly allowed in
ten million plus illegals and flew in an additional mass
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number of illegals under different amnesty provisions.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Remember we talked yesterday to the Congressman about this parole
program that I have brought up to you, Clay. They
are bringing people in under a family reunification loophole that's
supposed to be case by case hundreds of thousands of
people here.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And this is where I think is so important. They're
going to immediately say, oh, it's racist because you're focusing
on the community with patients things like that. Let me
just ask this question, Buck if a town of fifty
or sixty thousand in Japan should suddenly got twenty thousand
Germans shipped into that town, do you think it would
change the culture of that town in Japan? I would
(10:15):
submit yes, and probably for the worst. If a town
in Nigeria suddenly got twenty thousand Italians shipped into it
of fifty or sixty thousand, do you think that would
change the culture of the town and be difficult?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
This is about changing the culture of towns and how
it is impacting lives in a massive way, regardless of
where the people are from. It's a story that needs
to be told.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's also about resources. It's about people who are told
by the government where they live. You give us money,
you pay your tolls and your taxes and your and
you obey our regulations or else. And then they take
that money, in the case of say New York City,
billions of dollars of that money, and they start giving
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it to people who are not supposed to be here.
And what people in the case of Springfield have known
us as well is there seems to be a prioritization
going on of oh, well, we have to go above
and beyond for the new arrivals. There are poor Americans
in Springfield. Yeah, there are poor Americans who are white, black, Latino.
They're already there and they're being told, yeah, you know,
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you may get cut off from your Medicaid. But we
got these Haitians that have just arrived. We've got to
go above and beyond and do everything. We've got to
subsidize their housing, we got to give them EBT, give
the clay. It's a microcosm the point of Springfield. And
this is why I think it's so important. This is
why I really think the Trump campaign needs to go.
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I don't tell them what to do, but I really
think this is a good idea. Agree right now. I
think this really matters. Springfield is a microcosm of what
Biden Harris has done to the country in New York City,
in Chicago, in name a major city that has had
a huge inflow of migrants. And see when it's smaller,
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it's more acute, it's more obvious, you can sense greater
the strain on public resources. But it's no different in
New York City. It's just masked by the number of people.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Sounds like the Simpsons, but there is a Springfield in
every state in America right now, there is a community
like this that has been impacted, which is why I
think the Trump team should go and have a town
hall and let all these citizens talk. Because remember Buck,
this story didn't start because of the Internet. It started
because of the citizens showing up at the council meeting
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discussing the challenges that are being wrought in this community.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know what you'll see as well. We've seen these
videos they're circulating online. I guess you know, the legacy
media is going to tell us all these people are frauds.
They're Black Americans who live in Springfield who are like,
what's going on here? Folks? Yes, there are there are
others as well, but I'm saying there there are black
Americans who are saying, hey, this is my country. Why
isn't my government helping? Mean more, these people are new
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arrivals who really aren't even supposed to be here. And
then you get into the kind of this legal gray
area as a TPS. And but they're upset and their
videos are I'm not coming up with this on my own.
The videos are out there of them making their case,
including at that town hall meeting, and the media just
tells us it's all fake, there's nothing. All right, Well,
let's let's see. Let's see how this and and Kamala
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laughed about the whole thing. Kamala thinks the whole thing
is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And it's in the Midwest where the election is going
to be decided. I think it feels a bit to
me like the Trained derailment, when Trump did such a
good job going to that community that Biden was ignoring.
I think this is that all over again, except directly
connected to immigration.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Bucks.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I want to kind of talk about, well, the way
that Trump supporters are talked about on MSNBC. MSNBC in particular,
although it also happens on CNN and certainly is embedded
in much of the reporting that goes on in the
New York Times and in Washington Post, is a level
of personal attack that virtually never happens when it comes
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to the reverse, and when it does happen, they turn
it into a multi day storyline. I'm thinking about Jade
Vance joking with Tucker Carlson a couple of years ago
that a lot of Democrats were childless catwomen, and they
grabbed their faint they grabbed their pearls and fall on
the fainting couch, And oh my goodness, what about the
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rhetoric and what they say about us and all of
those things. There's very little actually negative said about Kamala
Harris voters in general. Trump supporters, on the other hand,
are attacked violently, nastily all the time. And I was
thinking about that this week sum and then this clip
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surfaced from our friend Joy Reid, who frankly may have
the dumbest show of all of the shows that air
on MSNBC, because I regularly see clips from her show
and just think there's no way someone with a functional
IQ could be putting on this kind of program consistently.
So there are lots of dumb people at MSNBC on air,
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there are also people who are willingly lying, Like I
don't think Rachel Mattou is dumb. I think she just
is a propagandist. But the attacks on Trump supporters in
particular are pretty crazy to see, and there are no
functional equivalents to this. I feel quite confident on Fox News,
But here is The Nation's Elie Mustelle telling Joyreid Trump
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supporters are despicable. Listen to cut three.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Everything he does is despicable. The reason why it doesn't
and his career is because his supporters are just as despicable,
all right. Like Trump's whole thing. He's a narcissist, right,
and so his whole thing is to have a complete
lack of compassion and empathy for everybody else. It's all
about him. That's why he lies about nine to eleven.
It's all about him, him, him, me, me, me. He's
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probably the least compassionate president we've had in two hundred
years since Andrew Jackson. And it works for him because
his supporters are just as ungenerous and to have just
as little compassion and empathy for others. And that's why
it never hurts Trump when he takes these crass and
classless actions, is because his supporters think that being crass
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and classless is actually kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Okay. I have met thousands and thousands of Trump supporters
over my life. Buck many of them are listening to
us right now. They are some of the kindest, most patriotic,
most loving of America people that I have ever seen.
I will tell you a little bit of an anecdote,
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there were dueling rallies in Aspen, Colorado. You might remember
a couple of weeks ago, I was out in Aspen
twentieth anniversary wedding anniversary as out there with my wife
and Trump came to do a fundraiser, and there were
that day in downtown Aspen dueling rallies. And a woman
wrote into the local Aspen newspaper and said she was
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an undecided voter, but she went to go visit both rallies,
and I do think this would be emblematic very often
of what you would see. She said. The Trump people
were incredibly welcoming to her, wanted to tell her how
much they loved America and how much they were fans
of Trump, whereas the Kamala supporters, by and large, to
the extent that those people even exist, just wanted to
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tell you how much they hated the Trump people. I
think that's reflected actually in the country. The Trump supporters
that I have met are some of the greatest patriots
and some of the nicest people out there, whereas it
seems to be the Kamala people and before them, the
Biden people by and large have just decided they hate
the Trump people, they don't really like their side as
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much as they hate the other. Does that reflect some
of what you've seen as well?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Of course, also it is right in line with the
truth of the modern Democrat party, which is that it
is a religion, and it's not a religion based around
one person. To be a Democrat a liberal, although that's
a very poor word choice really for what they are.
They're really authoritarian collectivists. They're not in any meaningful way
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liberal about anything. They don't believe in liberty on an
individual basis. Therefore, I think the term liberal for them
is really incorrect. Leftists, Marxists, communist, whatever you want to
call them. Democrats have replaced so much of what we
think of as I don't know if you want to say,
different aspects of your personality, but different aspects of life
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with it's all about being a Democrat. You're a Democrat,
and everything, you're a Democrat. When you're watching a sports game, you're,
you know, a Democrat. At the grocery store, you're and
and they wear this on their sleeve. And I think
it's because it is giving a lot of people. I mean,
if we're getting into the a little bit of Freudian analysis.
Maybe here of the Democrat Party today, it gives people
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purpose who otherwise feel like they lack purpose or they
have an insecurity about what their contribution is, what their
abilities are in a society that is based on individual
stuff instead of just whatever the group affiliation may be.
So yeah, I think there's a lot of unhappy people
who are Democrats. I mean, this is you're talking about
generalizations that affect hundreds of millions of people. So there's
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clearly a lot of you know, I know, happy Democrats.
I'm not saying that, but as a movement, yeah, I
think there's a bitterness at about the Democrat Party. You know, Trump,
they always try to do this thing. And I didn't
get to see Morning Joe this morning, which was a shame,
But whenever I do watch it, one of the most
common themes you come across Clay is Trump hates this country,
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says it's going to hell and all this stuff. Well,
what Trump is saying is that he thinks the current
leadership is running this country into the ground the wrong direction,
but he actually loves America on the merits and thinks
it's a very special place. I think the Democrats, if
you're looking at the ideology of their movement. I think
that they view America as a deeply flawed, deeply racist,
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deeply unfair, rooted in the patriarchy, rooted in oppression. And
these are all negatives, These are all archetypes of a
negative belief. But also what they say on MSNBC. I
don't usually spend too much time on it. The people
on MSNBC are generally not very bright. Just the truth,
They're just definitely not very smart. There are smarter, much
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smarter CNN anchors, for example, who just dance to the
required tune on TV. But at MSNBC, they have some
straight up dumbasses. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I do think, though the it would be such a
great story if we had a true First of all,
we have almost no one who's truly independent media. But
I think if you went to Kamala rallies and you
went to Trump rallies and you just assessed the overall
friendliness of people there, I think what you would find
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is that the Trump people are some of the friendliest
on the planet. And it's not That's why to me,
attacking the Trump supporter is particularly pernicious. Look, we understand
that in this political realm we live in where it's
fifty four days told the election, they are going to
be nasty things said about Trump. There's gonna be nasty
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things said about Kamala. And if you think that's unique,
if you're a history nerd like I am, one of
the most ridiculous and fun things to do is go
back and read what was said about Abraham Lincoln, go
back read what was said about George Washington. I mean,
these guys were attacked in print on a level that
I think would stagger people today because we tend to
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think of them as marble men who did no wrong
and had no opposition in their era. Buck they were savaged.
Andrew Jackson was savaged back in the day. They even
took a shot at Andrew Jackson during that clip and said,
you know, he's an awful guy. But it is kind
of crazy to think that what exactly was going on
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historically probably was worse than what's going on now.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, some of the founding fathers shot each other, yes,
you know, and there were other times where they came
pretty close to dueling, and you know, Monroe had to
step in at one point and prevent Aaron Burr from
getting involved in a different duel. This is Look, politics
is a rough business. You're talking about power, and you're
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talking about things that really affect human beings in ways
that are very real, and so passions are going to
run high. We're heading into an election cycle right now
where people are feeling a little bit more of the
heat than they have certainly since the last election at
this time, and so there's going to be this sense
of exaggeration. But I will tell you the going after
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the other side supporters, I mean, this is why I
just said, MSNBC is just sort of dumb to suggest
that Trump supporters they don't actually know what Trump supporters think,
never mind how Trump's supporters are. They don't have friends
really who are Trump supporters in these left wing circles,
They honestly are completely cloistered from the reality of why
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people Why are people attracted to Trump. It's not actually
because he's mean, you know, it's not actually because of
his narcissism or whatever that guy was saying. The American people,
a lot of them have very real concerns that stem
from poor governance, particularly from what feels like a uniparty
elite that doesn't care as the middle class continuously just
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gets squeezed by policies that involve trillions of dollars of spending,
that punish savers at the and benefit asset holders and
UH and that open the borders wide, and that allow
us to suffer from more criminality than we should because
of concerns over social justice. And these are all very
real things. And they're running an absolute clown to be
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president of the United States right now, and they had
a dementia patient clown before that, and they're gonna they're
gonna lecture us on who should be in charge. I mean,
this is if they were putting forward serious people who
were really bright and really on it and had a
real vision, Clay I would say, that's that's maybe I
disagree with them. These are unseerious people, but unfortunately they
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can do very serious damage to the country.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Not only unserious, lying on a level that we've never
seen a presidential candidate live before. I'm talking about what
they believe in, not whether they get a few facts
wrong or misspeak or things like that. We're gonna play
for you some audio during the course of this program.
We have never had a candidate run for political office
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who is on record as a political candidate espousing the
opposite opinion, not something that's a subtle variation, the opposite
opinion like we have with Kamala Harris. I mean, it
truly is staggering. And this is why she's not actually
doing any media because even reporters are embarrassed by how
much she has changed her opinions.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Imagine if Donald Trump had come forward in just the
last month or so and said, I'm all about an
open border. I want more illegals. The more legals, the better.
I want more abortion, abortion everywhere, paid for by the taxpayer.
I want higher taxes on everybody, less business growth. I mean,
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everybody would say, what the heck is going on here?
That is what Kamala has done, just from the other side,
and we're supposed to accept this.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
And Bernie spoke the truth here where when he said,
and I think this is so important, and we played
this clip earlier this week. Oh, she doesn't believe any
of this. She's just saying it because she needs to
get collected.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Of course, he.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Said the quiet part out loud, and I think that's
a hundred percent accurate.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You're listening to twenty four the most important tier in politics.
With Clay Travis end Bock Sexton.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
We are joined by Captain Sam Brown. He is running
for Senate in Nevada, a critical Senate race. He is
a combat veteran, a Purple Heart recipient, got a new
book out as well a live day. Captain Brown, honored
to have you on the program, sir, first time I'm
get a chance to talk to you. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
It's great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
And look, if I may just for a moment, you
guys are doing a terrific job promoting this segment. I
got a text from my mother saying I hear you're
going to be on the show today, So mother out there,
I love you. You took care of me for six months
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after I was wounded, and I just want you to
know that I am the man I am today in
large part because of your your love and support.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Captain Brad, if I can just say, first off, your
mother sounds like an amazing mom and a great American,
and she also has phenomenal taste in radio, so we're
off to a very strong.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Appreciate her listening and being aware and also having done
a fabulous job as a mom as our own moms did.
But your story is a compelling one. Buck you want
to dive right back in here.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, Sam, I want to give you the opportunity to
just tell everybody about your story a bit and set
the table before we dive right into the thick of
your critical senate race in Nevada swing state. But what
does everyone what should everyone know about how you got
to where you are today and why you're running for senate?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yeah, Like it started with parents that that loved this
country and instilled that in me as a child. And
so look, I'm of the generation I called, you know,
the post nine to eleven generation. I was a senior
in high school when our country was attacked, and I
had gone through the process applying to military academies, and
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before the end of two thousand and one, I got
accepted to West Point and reported there in July of
o two, and I kind of put me on the
trajectory where I ended up, you know, commissioning as an
infantry officer serving in Afghanistan. You know, just the greatest
you know, honor and privilege of my life was to
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be entrusted with you know, those those men, uh and
on mission for this country, and in two thousand and eight,
another unit had been ambushed. They needed support, and we
were the closest ones to it. And you know, I
still believe that when you've got Americans under fire or
under threat, the right risk sponsors to run to the
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sound of the guns and go provide that support. And
that's what we did, and unfortunately hit a roadside bomb
in the process. But you know it, it left one
of my soldiers killed and four of us wounded. But here,
here's the here's the thing I guess I want people
to know and in part why I'm here. The greatest
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lesson I ever learned in my life didn't come from
a from a former president, didn't come from you know,
a commanding general. It came from one of my soldiers,
a young man from South Texas. As I was burning there,
laying in the desert and getting to the point where
I knew I couldn't put the flames out myself, and
I didn't know if anyone else was going to get
to me. I was wrestling with the thoughts of how
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long is he going to take to burn to death?
What's the transition from this life to the that's going
to be like and I gave up to love to live.
And then that next moment, I heard the voice of one
of my soldiers and he screamed out, sir, I've got you,
and it gave me a little spark of hope. But
his words weren't enough. If he just stood away in
safety and screamed out I've got you and didn't bring
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himself to me through the fire and begin to put
out the flames, then I would have died. But he
did come to me. It was his actions that actually
saved my life. And look, I've detailed that story and
kind of the rest of my life in this book
that I just released last week on the sixteenth anniversary
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of my Live Day. It's called a Live Day. Anyone
can get it on Amazon. But that moment has propelled
me to where I'm at today, and I believe that
America is hurting. There's a lot of people that are
in that moment of crisis in their life, and we've
got people who will just call out, like you know,
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I've got you, but won't do anything about it. My
book is about it's not a political book. It's about
giving people hope who are desperate to just survive. And
in my book is sharing that story that message, and
me running for the Senate is me following through. I'm
doing more than just talking but taking action.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown, and that story you
just told us is incredibly compelling, and I want to
go back to it for a moment. You said in
that moment you were thinking how long does it take
to burn to death? I can't even imagine what a
feeling like that would be. But as you are now
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running for the Senate, I would imagine that whatever can
be said about you when you have stared down death
as you did, it can't really come close to really
kind of getting to you. What do you think that
moment has meant for your ability to serve Nevada and
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still continue to serve your country. I guess that connection
to me is really compelling. Take us into that worldview
if you.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Could, absolutely so so when you're when you're teetering at
that moment, and I literally I gave up the will
to list because death was going to be relief from
what I was at and and so to survive, you
know this kind of this miraculous way. I've never lacked
(32:28):
conviction that my life was spared for a reason. And
so you know, this was this was kind of my
my point of really finding faith in God. And and
that has that that went from being kind of just
I head knowledge I call it, you know, acknowledging of
you know, historical facts and becoming something that I really
truly believe in my heart. And but I believe that's
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true for everyone, that we're all here for a purpose
and a reason. Uh. And and that experience in the
three years that fall out, I mean, my recovery took
three years. I was in and out of the hospital
over thirty surgeries. It was grueling, and that was just
the beginning of the rest of my life. But it
steeled me, It hardened me for just such a time
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as this. And we all have the option in life.
Are we going to engage? Are we going to use
the talents we have or the endurance we've built for
a for a higher purpose. And having come through that,
I never lack conviction. And if anything, the you know,
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the the circumstances that we find ourselves in, this gives
me additional conviction and helps me dig in even more.
And in my pursuit of trying to serve others who
who frankly need a champion.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
We're speaking to Captain Sam Brown, who is running in Nevada,
telling us about his story. His book is A Live Day, Sam,
you are, I mean, it's an amazing story and this audience,
you know, in particular, appreciates it. A lot of current
or former military and a lot of military families listening in.
(34:11):
You're stepping into the arena. You're in the arena right now,
running against an entrenched democrat in Nevada. It is always
uphill going against a democrat. I wanted you to tell
everybody how this race is shaping up so far, and
what the differences are between the leadership that you would
bring the United States Senate versus your opponent, Jackie Rosen.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yeah. So most of the listeners, because they're you know,
politically attuned, are going to be familiar with the name
Harry Reid. And so, you know, Jackie Rosen is her
start point is Harry Reid. She was a protege of
his and even though he's dead now, you know, his
legacy still lives on and he created you know, somewhat
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of them machine here that brought her into the Senate
in twenty eighteen. She had served one term in the
House starting in twenty sixteen, but she's really been absent
from the state. And as you can imagine, someone who
didn't have to really work hard and create her own
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path to representing the people of Nevada, she's just well
conditioned to follow leadership, whether it's Chuck Schumer or Joe Biden.
Kamala Harris, she has been just a follower along the way. Now,
the impact that it's had here in the state is
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we've got the second highest unemployment rate in the nation,
We've got the second highest energy costs in the nation,
and people have been really economically hurt by this. She
also sits on the Homeland Security Committee, a committee in
a position where she got to be able to push back,
bring a accountability, provide oversight on the border crisis. And
(36:04):
yet when President Trump was still in office, she tried
to slow roll and pushed back on his initiatives and
under you know, Kamala Harris, as the borders are in
Joe Biden's leadership, she's done nothing to bring accountability there.
My offer to the folks is quite the opposite. We
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do need someone who understands the hardships of these economic policies.
Here's an interesting contrast. Six years ago, while she was
running for Senate as a congresswoman, I was working in
an Amazon warehouse. I know what it's like to work hard,
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you know, a ten hour shift to be able to
afford just just enough. Today. You know, I'm a successful businessman.
I'd started a business over these last six years, but
you know things are still tight from my family, just
like a lot of Nevadas. I bring that perspective, and
that's what we need to someone who understands the impact
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of the policies and can lead on them.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown. You're going to be
with President Trump later today in Nevada, which is a
battleground state for people out there that are listening to
us right now. We know the Senate race in twenty
twenty two came down to a razor's edge. I would
imagine that your polling and your data shows that the
whole state of Nevada is going to come down to
(37:30):
a couple of thousand votes one way or the other.
In all sincerity, how can people help you? What do
you see on the ground and what are you expecting
with this rally that Trump is going to have with
you later this afternoon this evening.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Yeah, people are hungry for leadership. And you're right, just
two years ago it was the closest Senate race in
the nation. It was a razor's edge. We're seeing polling
kind of shaping up like that again. But we've got
additional things in our favor. One of the reason is
that race was lost last cycle is we had Republicans
not turning out. There was over one hundred thousand Republicans
(38:06):
that just didn't come out to vote. And so we've
got to get everyone committed to voting and and you know,
being involved to the extent they can. People can go
to Captain sand Brown dot com to contribute from across
the nation. But if you live in Nevada, you know,
people in Nevada. At the end of the day, it's
not who raises the most money that wins. That's who
has the most votes that wins. And our polling is
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showing that it's very close. But we're we're pushing into into,
you know, groups of independents who haven't traditionally voted for Republicans,
and Republicans haven't really pursued. But I believe that you know,
sort of a business philosophy. Anyone can be a customer,
any voter can any any registered voter out there could
(38:50):
vote for me. I need to go make the case.
We've been doing that and we've seen the polls really
tighten up and we're right within the margin. Evra now.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Outstanding stuff. Captain Sam Brown. If we were in Nevada,
we'd be voting for you. We know your mom is
thank her for listening. But we would also encourage everybody
out there in the state of Nevada get out work.
If you can afford, go donate at Captain Sam Brown
dot com. Tell President Trump we said hi, and have
a great event this evening.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Well, dude, thank you both, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
And thank you for your service.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Sam, you're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact
with Clay and.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Buck, and I would encourage all of you to do
what my wife Laura did, who was fired up about
election security. She is volunteering in our local poll and
I'll be working there.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
She spent Yeah at this, she'll be there on election day.
She got trained. She is ready to go. H And
also when we had wat Lee on at the RNC,
he told all of you we appreciate the email we
really do to us saying hey, you need to let
people know they're going to cheat, they're going to try
to rig the election, all these things. We appreciate it.
(40:07):
But what would be better than you emailing Buck and
me is if you out there could make the decision
to volunteer yourself to help with election security. And the
RNC is signing people up left and right, particularly if
you have the time. Some of you are lawyers and
(40:27):
you want to be poll watchers. They are desperately asking
for you to be involved. So if you truly care
about the sanctity and security of the election, the best
thing you can do is give your labor over to
the RNC to help ensure we have fair and faithful
and secure elections.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
And I'm just gonna say it, I mean the Trump
team legally speaking, was outmaneuvered by the twenty twenty COVID stuff.
Well we don't have COVID now, okay, But the way
that the laws were changed or even broken, ey would
are you in some states to allow voting patterns that
would be more favorable to Democrats. There's been plenty of
time to challenge all that. Plenty of time to get
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in front of you know, it's what happened in twenty
twenty in part, and please don't tell me, but what
about this and what about that? I don't have six
hours to talk about this right now, but one part
of it was, Hey, they did this. They shouldn't have
allowed those votes to be in in that way that
they at the time were allowed to be cast. Once
votes are cast and people have been told, you're allowed
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to cast them that way, even if it violates the
state constitution, as I believe it did in Pennsylvania, to
have it's very You're just not going to get a
judge to be like, well, people voted in good faith,
so that doesn't matter. We're just gonna say it didn't count.
They're just not going to do it. And I remember
I said that at the time. My point here isn't
oh but nothing matters. My point is they've got to
(41:49):
get ahead of it. They've got time to get ahead
of it. They've had four years. I'm not saying that
we won't see shenanigans. I'm saying we need to be
ready for it. And going into this with well, they're
gonna cheat, we're not. We don't sit and cry in
advance of seeing what the scoreboard is run. Let's beat
the cheat and run the scoreboard up so high that
it would be laughable to think that Donald Trump hasn't
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won this election.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, and let's expand the number of states where we
are putting them in play. This is why I mentioned
New Hampshire and Virginia. Everybody focused on Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
deservedly so, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. But keeping
a lot of states within a close margin makes it
(42:35):
really hard. The great analogy, or the great sort of
metaphor for this, which you've seen in cartoons forever, is
the guy who's trying to plug the dam that starts
to pop with a bunch of different holes in it,
you know the cartoon. That is what needs to happen
in twenty twenty four. And we are now the race itself.
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Even if you talk to the most dieheard Democrat, it's
all on Democrat Party twenty twenty twenty one states, with
the exception of North Carolina. The other six agreed upon battlegrounds,
and we could expand it to again New Hampshire and
to Virginia, but all of the battlegrounds are Democrats having
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to defend right now, North Carolina. I feel like a
lot of you listening in North Carolina is going to
go red. Got to show up and vote, got to
do everything. But Trump won North Carolina in twenty sixteen,
he won North Carolina in twenty twenty. I don't think
that suddenly Kamala Harris is gonna win in twenty twenty four.
A lot of work to be done, but that's the
only state buck that they're even spending money on. That
(43:41):
is a quote unquote red state from twenty twenty. Every
other battleground state, blue state that Biden won that Kamala
is trying to defend, they're on their back heel. We
just got to pour on more steam here. And that's
what I think the elect the debate tomorrow can do
if Trump shows up and deliver versus a solid performance.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
We'll get into this more when it happens, but I
just have been thinking about it a bunch already. If
Trump wins this debate tomorrow, I don't think he should.
I don't think he should debate again because Kamala's going
You're gonna know that he has won because of not
only what the polls show, but then the campaign, the
Kamala campaign, will be open to.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Suddenly she's going to show up desperate, begging for another
opportunity to change the trajectory.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
And if I'm Trump, at that point, I just said, no,
why we did this once? You know that's all you
agreed to, and you know I'm not playing this game anymore.
And she can go around and whine because the whining
at that point would be obvious to everybody, is just
a function of she knows she's losing. I mean, here's
the the neck and neck narrative and the oh, it's
(44:46):
so close. Two weeks ago, it was Kamala's winning in
every swing state. Haha, Kamala is going to win Comma.
You know that was the story from the media. The
only reason they're saying it's neck and neck now is
because they want everyone to think it's very, very close
and not. Oh so, Kamala is losing ground and Trump
is gaining ground with each passing day, which is what
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is actually happening.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Did you see the panic though, when the New York
Times poll came out, because they know the New York
Times is not rigged in favor of Trump. The left
wing panic when they came out yesterday and showed Trump
up forty eight forty seven, up two points in a
multi candidate field. By the way, was legion. They are nervous,
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they're afraid, they know that Kamala has tried to hide.
They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to move
the needle. And this is where to your point, Buck,
I think they're so challenged and why an October surprise
would be so difficult. Everybody knows what they think about
Donald Trump. Everybody knows. You've had since twenty fifteen to
(45:56):
decide where you are and what you think about Donal
Donald Trump. And to me, the most interesting part of
the New York Times Pollbuck, was that Trump is at
all time favorability highs in the New York Times poll.
They have spent nine years attacking him with everything they've got.
They tried to put him in prison in New York,
South Florida, d C. Georgia. They tried to bankrupt him,
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They charged him with inappropriate behavior from over twenty years ago.
They changed the statute of limitations to allow these lawsuits
to even exist. And after all that, Buck, after billions
of dollars they have spent. Trump is more popular as
we are talking to you right now than he ever
has been in his entire political career, and to your point,
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based on all the polling, he's in better shape right
now than he ever was in twenty sixteen or twenty
twenty as we get ready to start voting.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
One of my biggest concerns with the way that they
have waged the law fair campaign against Trump has been
all along the precedent that it sets, and everyone has
talked about the crossing of the rubicon because it is
something that we have never seen before. I truly mean
this to me. The only way to even try to
(47:14):
put that genie back in the bottle is for Donald
Trump to win this election and therefore for it to
be a clear rejection of the lawfair tactic to try
to win a presidential election, to have left wing Democrat
prosecutors and a left wing Democrat judge and a left
(47:36):
wing Democrat jury come up with some just absurd, absurd
case and you know, criminal allegation, all this stuff. If
Donald Trump loses, it's going to be hard not to
think that this won't be replicated in the future. If
Donald Trump wins, I think it will at least be
something of a rebuke to the lawfair narrative, which is
(47:58):
really important. Honestly goes beyond even just Trump in this election.
It goes to the future of the country.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
So I think it also Buck to your point, not
just law fair. I think if Trump wins, the entire
concept of identity politics is going to have to get
re examined by Kamala Harris because she is the ultimate
DEI candidate black woman that supposedly is going to unite
all the different people of various ethnic groups in America
(48:24):
and bring him out to the polls and take back
control of the country from awful old white men like
Donald Trump who are racist. And I think if she loses,
I really do buck. I think they're going to have
to go back and recalibrate that stuff.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
I don't think so, man. I think they just need
a better minority politician. I just think.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
That might be true, But who is that person. The
one thing I think they certainly have done is they
underrated Barack Oboba's talent as a minority politician or as
a politician period. Look, Corey Booker tried it. Kamala Harris
has tried it. There have been a bunch of people
who have tried to pick up the Barack Obomba mantle,
and they're just not anywhere near as likable or charismatic
(49:04):
or in frankly I think, intelligent as he was. And
I don't think Barack Obamas are easy to replace, just
like Ronald Reagan's are not easy to replace. It's hard
to find really talented politicians.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Comparing Obama and Reagan. Hey, we got calls coming in.
In terms of the actual appeal of the nation, I
think there have been three really yeah, three really talented
politicians in the last forty years, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Seriously, George w vote, but he was a supremely talented politician.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Oh that's what you know.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
I do.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Use was telling you, no, no, no, you have to He
was a He would have won. Look, here's a good example.
There are three presidents in my life that if they
could have run for a third term, they would have won.
Reagan would have won an eighty eight. Clinton would have
won in two thousand, Obama would have won in sixteen.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Clinton's win in two thousand leading into September eleventh, because
it would have happened on his watch would have changed
the entire reality of the Clinton presidency. And also if
he had to deal with the stock market crash that came,
because the stock market boom from the Internet was really
what gave the Clinton economy the whole Oh my gosh,
it's amazing. But but but you.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
But you, Billy?
Speaker 3 (50:22):
And it was Bill good with people? Was he good
at kissing baby?
Speaker 5 (50:25):
Well?
Speaker 3 (50:26):
I mean, you know, was he good at doing the
things that he did. I'm just you know, there's nobody else.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
You and I are have been alive basically for every
election since eighty there's only three presidents that could have
won a third term. I think since nineteen eighty those
are the three.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I mean, I think, yeah, I think Bill Clinton might
have won a third term. But I think that would
have been that would have changed the narrative in a
lot of ways.
This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Trump saying that he is not going to debate again.
I think I said yesterday, Clay, I don't think he will,
and I don't think he could. I didn't put a
bet on this one because I'm sick of having to
buy you expensive stakes. But or I guess we're even
Stephen as of a few weeks from now. But I
decided that it was probably in Trump's best interest. That
(00:35):
seems to be I think the move for him right now,
given where the polls are and everything else. I know
you want to dive into some internal reporting at CNN
about internal polling on the Kamala side of things that
is encouraging for Trump. Look, you've got people that are
coming out and saying, at the election were held today,
(00:55):
Trump would win. You've got some others who are saying
if the election were held today, Kamala would win. No
surprise there. Nobody really knows the answer, and nobody will
know until election day. All Right, I feel very strongly
that Trump is ahead, but not by a lot. I
think he's ahead, but this is this is a tight race,
and it's gonna come into the final stretch and yeah,
(01:16):
I think that's remember clear we were at the Kentucky Derby.
We had so much fun. We're entering the phase where
you know, the horses are running and everyone's like, oh,
the horses are running, and it's like, oh, I think
I saw them. And then when they get into the
final stretch, because we're near the finish line, everyone stands
up and there's all that electricity and excitement. It's gonna
be like that. Okay, no one's getting lapped here, and
the horses are gonna be right on top of.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Our Boss Julie Talbot from Kentucky took us to the
finish line of the Kentucky Derby and it was amazing
for those who did not know she and her husband Michael.
And that is where we are now full sprint for
the next fifty three days.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, the crowd is standing and at that last stretch
with the final final leg of the race happening right
in front of us. So that's where we are. A
couple of big things keep in mind. First off, the media,
I really just think that Their strategy at this point
is to run through the run through the end of this,
(02:14):
taking as many hits and shots as they have to
on behalf of Kamala by lying for her about things
that are easily disprovable. I'll get to one of those
in a second. And we also have an idea that
Clay and I were texting about yesterday that we want
to raise with you. Maybe we've already raised it to
the Trump campaign. Maybe we've already said, hey, guys, here's
a good idea. But I think that the media, Clay
(02:35):
knows that they're gonna have to lie about a lot
of things because Kamala's got huge, huge vulnerabilities based on
what she has been saying. For Oh, I don't know
her entire life in public office. And here's one of them.
This is a new Trump ad. They said that she
didn't after that debate. They said Kamala didn't support transgender
operations on illegal aliens in prison, because that's quite a mouthful, right,
(02:59):
problem is, she did. Here's this Trump ad play three.
He did things that nobody would ever think of.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Now she wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens
that are in prison.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
This is a radical left liberal Paris Voice support for
cutting funding for ICE and for using taxpayer money to
fund transgender surgery for detained migrants.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
In twenty nineteen, tax.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Pair funded gender transition surgeries for detainment Chain Marke actually
said she supported.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
She wrote both wrote and answered in the affirmative.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
When she was asked this, and she said, you just
supported it for federal prisoners.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
These are things that you know, you would be hard
to think that you would come up with taxpayer funding
gender transitions for for detained migrants.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
This was just a couple of her positions back then,
Clay there, I really just think that they're hoping to
continue to just take these shots and push through whatever
the damage to their credibility is what they don't They
don't care.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
They've got to go all in for Comma, even if
it means blowing up their credibility at every step.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I do think Buck, this is where twitter x being
owned by Elondilk makes a big difference, because I don't
know if you paid attention to this, but the community
notes section on Twitter has become very valuable because people
like Jamal Bowman, people like the New Yorker Writer, a
(04:26):
lot of them came out and said, hey, this is
a crazy thing that Trump said during the debate that
Kamala Harris wants to provide sex change operations funded by
taxpayers for illegal immigrants in detention centers as well as criminals,
and she actually did. And our friend Ryan Gerdusky was
(04:48):
on CNN when Van Jones tried to make excuses for
Kamala Harris by saying, yeah, you know, the whole Democrat
Party kind of lost its mind in the twenty twenty campaign,
and Ryan shot back, Yeah, BLM was the cause of
all of it, but really it was everybody was trying
to get left of Bernie and left of Elizabeth Warren
(05:10):
because that's how they thought they ended up the nominee
against Trump. And so Kamala came out with all these
crazy left wing propositions, and unlike in twenty twenty when
it might have been stifled or when the and it's
so important fact checkers might have been given precedence. I
saw buck. I loved it is that the Seattle Post,
(05:32):
whatever the main newspaper is in Seattle, came out and
said Trump lied about parts of Seattle being taken over
by protesters during twenty twenty, and then community notes fact
check the actual Seattle newspaper with an article from them
about Chaz. I mean, are they just going to pretend
that didn't happen? The autonomous zone that was taken over
(05:55):
in the center of Seattle by protesters, and so the
lies are getting recognized. My question is are they sort
of swing voters who are open to them seeing them?
You and I are, most of our listeners are. I
think it's puncturing through the bubble of left wing of
the lies, but I'm not sure it certainly is doing
(06:18):
more than in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So here's our idea, and we're hoping that some of
our friends from the Trump campaign who listen to the
show as often as they can, some almost every day,
as I understand it. Here's our idea. And I will
note that people have been saying this. This has been
percolating on x on Elon's platform. Trump should hold a
(06:41):
town hall in Springfield, Ohio, where we get to hear
from the residents of this town what's really going on.
They we get to have it presented for everybody to hear.
I don't want to hear David Muir say, I called
the city manager. What does the city manager do, I.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Mean, and why would he be honest if he's trying
to protect the city, why would he say honestly anything
that's true to your point?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You know, I'm supposed to make sure there's no potholes
and like you know, the electrical grid doesn't go down
or whatever, and you know, calls the utility company. I mean,
I don't know what a city manager in Springfield's doing
day to day, but I do know that he is
not omniscient and doesn't have the answers to what has
gone on everywhere. He's not the cops. Okay, he's not
somebody who's even on the front line seeing what's happening.
And I just think it's kind of funny, like, oh, well,
(07:28):
since you talk to the city manager, I guess we
have to think that everything's fine. Other it's a city
manager democrat that anyone even find out? Do we know
it's a city What are the chances of democrat? Pretty high.
I'm not saying he is. Maybe he is, Maybe he is.
I think he is. Well there you go, Oh, what
a shock, the city manager who's a Democrat. He's probably
a big tim Walls fan. Anyway, I think that we
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need to have Trump with the people of Springfield having
an open conversation. Remember if Fox News, that's the obvious
place for it to be house. Sorry, we're radio not video,
so I have to seed this one.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I would love it to be yes, although if nobody
else will do it, you and I would go and
host a town hall in Springfield with Trump. We would
be happy to do that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I'm totally you, totally doing That's actually a good idea.
I like where Clay's head is out. But anyway, someone
just needs to do it, because here's here's what happens
now when you have when you have this this call
it content reporting, whatever you want to say. When it's
out there now, it filters out throughout the rest of
the ecosystem, and it puts pressure on the legacy media
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that is carrying all of the water for the Harris
campaign right now to have to at least deal with
this reality because it can reach a critical mass where
if they don't address it, they're losing the messaging war
on it. We have to do this. Unfortunately, all the
time they lie about Trump. We can't just let the
lie sit out there. We have to address it. And
you know, the cycle is rinse wash and repeat every day. Clay,
(08:54):
we both know that if we're talking, we're texting about
this yesterday, if we get the people of Springfield out there,
I forget everyone wants to make it about the dogs
and the cats living together, mass hysteria, whatever. That's not
even what I want to focus on. What has happened
to this town under Biden Harris's watch.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yes, that's it, and that's why I would go do it,
and I think for people out there. So Springfield is
emblematic of a lot of towns in America that had
a culture before the Biden Harris administration suddenly allowed in
ten million plus illegals and flew in an additional mass
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number of illegals under different amnesty provisions.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Remember we talked yesterday to the Congressman about this parole
program that I have brought up to you, Clay. They
are bringing people in under a family reunification loophole that's
supposed to be case by case hundreds of thousands of
people here.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And this is where I think is so important. They're
going to immediately say, oh, it's racist because you're focusing
on the community with patients things like that. Let me
just ask this question, Buck if a town of fifty
or sixty thousand in Japan should suddenly got twenty thousand
Germans shipped into that town, do you think it would
change the culture of that town in Japan? I would
(10:15):
submit yes, and probably for the worst. If a town
in Nigeria suddenly got twenty thousand Italians shipped into it
of fifty or sixty thousand, do you think that would
change the culture of the town and be difficult?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
This is about changing the culture of towns and how
it is impacting lives in a massive way, regardless of
where the people are from. It's a story that needs
to be told.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's also about resources. It's about people who are told
by the government where they live. You give us money,
you pay your tolls and your taxes and your and
you obey our regulations or else. And then they take
that money, in the case of say New York City,
billions of dollars of that money, and they start giving
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it to people who are not supposed to be here.
And what people in the case of Springfield have known
us as well is there seems to be a prioritization
going on of oh, well, we have to go above
and beyond for the new arrivals. There are poor Americans
in Springfield. Yeah, there are poor Americans who are white, black, Latino.
They're already there and they're being told, yeah, you know,
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you may get cut off from your Medicaid. But we
got these Haitians that have just arrived. We've got to
go above and beyond and do everything. We've got to
subsidize their housing, we got to give them EBT, give
the clay. It's a microcosm the point of Springfield. And
this is why I think it's so important. This is
why I really think the Trump campaign needs to go.
(11:45):
I don't tell them what to do, but I really
think this is a good idea. Agree right now. I
think this really matters. Springfield is a microcosm of what
Biden Harris has done to the country in New York City,
in Chicago, in name a major city that has had
a huge inflow of migrants. And see when it's smaller,
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it's more acute, it's more obvious, you can sense greater
the strain on public resources. But it's no different in
New York City. It's just masked by the number of people.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Sounds like the Simpsons, but there is a Springfield in
every state in America right now, there is a community
like this that has been impacted, which is why I
think the Trump team should go and have a town
hall and let all these citizens talk. Because remember Buck,
this story didn't start because of the Internet. It started
because of the citizens showing up at the council meeting
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discussing the challenges that are being wrought in this community.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know what you'll see as well. We've seen these
videos they're circulating online. I guess you know, the legacy
media is going to tell us all these people are frauds.
They're Black Americans who live in Springfield who are like,
what's going on here? Folks? Yes, there are there are
others as well, but I'm saying there there are black
Americans who are saying, hey, this is my country. Why
isn't my government helping? Mean more, these people are new
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arrivals who really aren't even supposed to be here. And
then you get into the kind of this legal gray
area as a TPS. And but they're upset and their
videos are I'm not coming up with this on my own.
The videos are out there of them making their case,
including at that town hall meeting, and the media just
tells us it's all fake, there's nothing. All right, Well,
let's let's see. Let's see how this and and Kamala
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laughed about the whole thing. Kamala thinks the whole thing
is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And it's in the Midwest where the election is going
to be decided. I think it feels a bit to
me like the Trained derailment, when Trump did such a
good job going to that community that Biden was ignoring.
I think this is that all over again, except directly
connected to immigration.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Bucks.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I want to kind of talk about, well, the way
that Trump supporters are talked about on MSNBC. MSNBC in particular,
although it also happens on CNN and certainly is embedded
in much of the reporting that goes on in the
New York Times and in Washington Post, is a level
of personal attack that virtually never happens when it comes
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to the reverse, and when it does happen, they turn
it into a multi day storyline. I'm thinking about Jade
Vance joking with Tucker Carlson a couple of years ago
that a lot of Democrats were childless catwomen, and they
grabbed their faint they grabbed their pearls and fall on
the fainting couch, And oh my goodness, what about the
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rhetoric and what they say about us and all of
those things. There's very little actually negative said about Kamala
Harris voters in general. Trump supporters, on the other hand,
are attacked violently, nastily all the time. And I was
thinking about that this week sum and then this clip
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surfaced from our friend Joy Reid, who frankly may have
the dumbest show of all of the shows that air
on MSNBC, because I regularly see clips from her show
and just think there's no way someone with a functional
IQ could be putting on this kind of program consistently.
So there are lots of dumb people at MSNBC on air,
(15:32):
there are also people who are willingly lying, Like I
don't think Rachel Mattou is dumb. I think she just
is a propagandist. But the attacks on Trump supporters in
particular are pretty crazy to see, and there are no
functional equivalents to this. I feel quite confident on Fox News,
But here is The Nation's Elie Mustelle telling Joyreid Trump
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supporters are despicable. Listen to cut three.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Everything he does is despicable. The reason why it doesn't
and his career is because his supporters are just as despicable,
all right. Like Trump's whole thing. He's a narcissist, right,
and so his whole thing is to have a complete
lack of compassion and empathy for everybody else. It's all
about him. That's why he lies about nine to eleven.
It's all about him, him, him, me, me, me. He's
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probably the least compassionate president we've had in two hundred
years since Andrew Jackson. And it works for him because
his supporters are just as ungenerous and to have just
as little compassion and empathy for others. And that's why
it never hurts Trump when he takes these crass and
classless actions, is because his supporters think that being crass
(16:43):
and classless is actually kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Okay. I have met thousands and thousands of Trump supporters
over my life. Buck many of them are listening to
us right now. They are some of the kindest, most patriotic,
most loving of America people that I have ever seen.
I will tell you a little bit of an anecdote,
(17:08):
there were dueling rallies in Aspen, Colorado. You might remember
a couple of weeks ago, I was out in Aspen
twentieth anniversary wedding anniversary as out there with my wife
and Trump came to do a fundraiser, and there were
that day in downtown Aspen dueling rallies. And a woman
wrote into the local Aspen newspaper and said she was
(17:30):
an undecided voter, but she went to go visit both rallies,
and I do think this would be emblematic very often
of what you would see. She said. The Trump people
were incredibly welcoming to her, wanted to tell her how
much they loved America and how much they were fans
of Trump, whereas the Kamala supporters, by and large, to
the extent that those people even exist, just wanted to
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tell you how much they hated the Trump people. I
think that's reflected actually in the country. The Trump supporters
that I have met are some of the greatest patriots
and some of the nicest people out there, whereas it
seems to be the Kamala people and before them, the
Biden people by and large have just decided they hate
the Trump people, they don't really like their side as
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much as they hate the other. Does that reflect some
of what you've seen as well?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Of course, also it is right in line with the
truth of the modern Democrat party, which is that it
is a religion, and it's not a religion based around
one person. To be a Democrat a liberal, although that's
a very poor word choice really for what they are.
They're really authoritarian collectivists. They're not in any meaningful way
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liberal about anything. They don't believe in liberty on an
individual basis. Therefore, I think the term liberal for them
is really incorrect. Leftists, Marxists, communist, whatever you want to
call them. Democrats have replaced so much of what we
think of as I don't know if you want to say,
different aspects of your personality, but different aspects of life
(19:03):
with it's all about being a Democrat. You're a Democrat,
and everything, you're a Democrat. When you're watching a sports game, you're,
you know, a Democrat. At the grocery store, you're and
and they wear this on their sleeve. And I think
it's because it is giving a lot of people. I mean,
if we're getting into the a little bit of Freudian analysis.
Maybe here of the Democrat Party today, it gives people
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purpose who otherwise feel like they lack purpose or they
have an insecurity about what their contribution is, what their
abilities are in a society that is based on individual
stuff instead of just whatever the group affiliation may be.
So yeah, I think there's a lot of unhappy people
who are Democrats. I mean, this is you're talking about
generalizations that affect hundreds of millions of people. So there's
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clearly a lot of you know, I know, happy Democrats.
I'm not saying that, but as a movement, yeah, I
think there's a bitterness at about the Democrat Party. You know, Trump,
they always try to do this thing. And I didn't
get to see Morning Joe this morning, which was a shame,
But whenever I do watch it, one of the most
common themes you come across Clay is Trump hates this country,
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says it's going to hell and all this stuff. Well,
what Trump is saying is that he thinks the current
leadership is running this country into the ground the wrong direction,
but he actually loves America on the merits and thinks
it's a very special place. I think the Democrats, if
you're looking at the ideology of their movement. I think
that they view America as a deeply flawed, deeply racist,
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deeply unfair, rooted in the patriarchy, rooted in oppression. And
these are all negatives, These are all archetypes of a
negative belief. But also what they say on MSNBC. I
don't usually spend too much time on it. The people
on MSNBC are generally not very bright. Just the truth,
They're just definitely not very smart. There are smarter, much
(20:53):
smarter CNN anchors, for example, who just dance to the
required tune on TV. But at MSNBC, they have some
straight up dumbasses. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I do think, though the it would be such a
great story if we had a true First of all,
we have almost no one who's truly independent media. But
I think if you went to Kamala rallies and you
went to Trump rallies and you just assessed the overall
friendliness of people there, I think what you would find
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is that the Trump people are some of the friendliest
on the planet. And it's not That's why to me,
attacking the Trump supporter is particularly pernicious. Look, we understand
that in this political realm we live in where it's
fifty four days told the election, they are going to
be nasty things said about Trump. There's gonna be nasty
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things said about Kamala. And if you think that's unique,
if you're a history nerd like I am, one of
the most ridiculous and fun things to do is go
back and read what was said about Abraham Lincoln, go
back read what was said about George Washington. I mean,
these guys were attacked in print on a level that
I think would stagger people today because we tend to
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think of them as marble men who did no wrong
and had no opposition in their era. Buck they were savaged.
Andrew Jackson was savaged back in the day. They even
took a shot at Andrew Jackson during that clip and said,
you know, he's an awful guy. But it is kind
of crazy to think that what exactly was going on
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historically probably was worse than what's going on now.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, some of the founding fathers shot each other, yes,
you know, and there were other times where they came
pretty close to dueling, and you know, Monroe had to
step in at one point and prevent Aaron Burr from
getting involved in a different duel. This is Look, politics
is a rough business. You're talking about power, and you're
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talking about things that really affect human beings in ways
that are very real, and so passions are going to
run high. We're heading into an election cycle right now
where people are feeling a little bit more of the
heat than they have certainly since the last election at
this time, and so there's going to be this sense
of exaggeration. But I will tell you the going after
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the other side supporters, I mean, this is why I
just said, MSNBC is just sort of dumb to suggest
that Trump supporters they don't actually know what Trump supporters think,
never mind how Trump's supporters are. They don't have friends
really who are Trump supporters in these left wing circles,
They honestly are completely cloistered from the reality of why
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people Why are people attracted to Trump. It's not actually
because he's mean, you know, it's not actually because of
his narcissism or whatever that guy was saying. The American people,
a lot of them have very real concerns that stem
from poor governance, particularly from what feels like a uniparty
elite that doesn't care as the middle class continuously just
(24:00):
gets squeezed by policies that involve trillions of dollars of spending,
that punish savers at the and benefit asset holders and
UH and that open the borders wide, and that allow
us to suffer from more criminality than we should because
of concerns over social justice. And these are all very
real things. And they're running an absolute clown to be
(24:24):
president of the United States right now, and they had
a dementia patient clown before that, and they're gonna they're
gonna lecture us on who should be in charge. I mean,
this is if they were putting forward serious people who
were really bright and really on it and had a
real vision, Clay I would say, that's that's maybe I
disagree with them. These are unseerious people, but unfortunately they
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can do very serious damage to the country.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Not only unserious, lying on a level that we've never
seen a presidential candidate live before. I'm talking about what
they believe in, not whether they get a few facts
wrong or misspeak or things like that. We're gonna play
for you some audio during the course of this program.
We have never had a candidate run for political office
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who is on record as a political candidate espousing the
opposite opinion, not something that's a subtle variation, the opposite
opinion like we have with Kamala Harris. I mean, it
truly is staggering. And this is why she's not actually
doing any media because even reporters are embarrassed by how
much she has changed her opinions.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Imagine if Donald Trump had come forward in just the
last month or so and said, I'm all about an
open border. I want more illegals. The more legals, the better.
I want more abortion, abortion everywhere, paid for by the taxpayer.
I want higher taxes on everybody, less business growth. I mean,
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everybody would say, what the heck is going on here?
That is what Kamala has done, just from the other side,
and we're supposed to accept this.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
And Bernie spoke the truth here where when he said,
and I think this is so important, and we played
this clip earlier this week. Oh, she doesn't believe any
of this. She's just saying it because she needs to
get collected.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Of course, he.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Said the quiet part out loud, and I think that's
a hundred percent accurate.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You're listening to twenty four the most important tier in politics.
With Clay Travis end Bock Sexton.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
We are joined by Captain Sam Brown. He is running
for Senate in Nevada, a critical Senate race. He is
a combat veteran, a Purple Heart recipient, got a new
book out as well a live day. Captain Brown, honored
to have you on the program, sir, first time I'm
get a chance to talk to you. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
It's great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
And look, if I may just for a moment, you
guys are doing a terrific job promoting this segment. I
got a text from my mother saying I hear you're
going to be on the show today, So mother out there,
I love you. You took care of me for six months
(27:07):
after I was wounded, and I just want you to
know that I am the man I am today in
large part because of your your love and support.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Captain Brad, if I can just say, first off, your
mother sounds like an amazing mom and a great American,
and she also has phenomenal taste in radio, so we're
off to a very strong.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Appreciate her listening and being aware and also having done
a fabulous job as a mom as our own moms did.
But your story is a compelling one. Buck you want
to dive right back in here.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, Sam, I want to give you the opportunity to
just tell everybody about your story a bit and set
the table before we dive right into the thick of
your critical senate race in Nevada swing state. But what
does everyone what should everyone know about how you got
to where you are today and why you're running for senate?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yeah, Like it started with parents that that loved this
country and instilled that in me as a child. And
so look, I'm of the generation I called, you know,
the post nine to eleven generation. I was a senior
in high school when our country was attacked, and I
had gone through the process applying to military academies, and
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before the end of two thousand and one, I got
accepted to West Point and reported there in July of
o two, and I kind of put me on the
trajectory where I ended up, you know, commissioning as an
infantry officer serving in Afghanistan. You know, just the greatest
you know, honor and privilege of my life was to
(28:39):
be entrusted with you know, those those men, uh and
on mission for this country, and in two thousand and eight,
another unit had been ambushed. They needed support, and we
were the closest ones to it. And you know, I
still believe that when you've got Americans under fire or
under threat, the right risk sponsors to run to the
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sound of the guns and go provide that support. And
that's what we did, and unfortunately hit a roadside bomb
in the process. But you know it, it left one
of my soldiers killed and four of us wounded. But here,
here's the here's the thing I guess I want people
to know and in part why I'm here. The greatest
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lesson I ever learned in my life didn't come from
a from a former president, didn't come from you know,
a commanding general. It came from one of my soldiers,
a young man from South Texas. As I was burning there,
laying in the desert and getting to the point where
I knew I couldn't put the flames out myself, and
I didn't know if anyone else was going to get
to me. I was wrestling with the thoughts of how
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long is he going to take to burn to death?
What's the transition from this life to the that's going
to be like and I gave up to love to live.
And then that next moment, I heard the voice of one
of my soldiers and he screamed out, sir, I've got you,
and it gave me a little spark of hope. But
his words weren't enough. If he just stood away in
safety and screamed out I've got you and didn't bring
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himself to me through the fire and begin to put
out the flames, then I would have died. But he
did come to me. It was his actions that actually
saved my life. And look, I've detailed that story and
kind of the rest of my life in this book
that I just released last week on the sixteenth anniversary
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of my Live Day. It's called a Live Day. Anyone
can get it on Amazon. But that moment has propelled
me to where I'm at today, and I believe that
America is hurting. There's a lot of people that are
in that moment of crisis in their life, and we've
got people who will just call out, like you know,
(30:48):
I've got you, but won't do anything about it. My
book is about it's not a political book. It's about
giving people hope who are desperate to just survive. And
in my book is sharing that story that message, and
me running for the Senate is me following through. I'm
doing more than just talking but taking action.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown, and that story you
just told us is incredibly compelling, and I want to
go back to it for a moment. You said in
that moment you were thinking how long does it take
to burn to death? I can't even imagine what a
feeling like that would be. But as you are now
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running for the Senate, I would imagine that whatever can
be said about you when you have stared down death
as you did, it can't really come close to really
kind of getting to you. What do you think that
moment has meant for your ability to serve Nevada and
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still continue to serve your country. I guess that connection
to me is really compelling. Take us into that worldview
if you.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Could, absolutely so so when you're when you're teetering at
that moment, and I literally I gave up the will
to list because death was going to be relief from
what I was at and and so to survive, you
know this kind of this miraculous way. I've never lacked
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conviction that my life was spared for a reason. And
so you know, this was this was kind of my
my point of really finding faith in God. And and
that has that that went from being kind of just
I head knowledge I call it, you know, acknowledging of
you know, historical facts and becoming something that I really
truly believe in my heart. And but I believe that's
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true for everyone, that we're all here for a purpose
and a reason. Uh. And and that experience in the
three years that fall out, I mean, my recovery took
three years. I was in and out of the hospital
over thirty surgeries. It was grueling, and that was just
the beginning of the rest of my life. But it
steeled me, It hardened me for just such a time
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as this. And we all have the option in life.
Are we going to engage? Are we going to use
the talents we have or the endurance we've built for
a for a higher purpose. And having come through that,
I never lack conviction. And if anything, the you know,
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the the circumstances that we find ourselves in, this gives
me additional conviction and helps me dig in even more.
And in my pursuit of trying to serve others who
who frankly need a champion.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
We're speaking to Captain Sam Brown, who is running in Nevada,
telling us about his story. His book is A Live Day, Sam,
you are, I mean, it's an amazing story and this audience,
you know, in particular, appreciates it. A lot of current
or former military and a lot of military families listening in.
(34:11):
You're stepping into the arena. You're in the arena right now,
running against an entrenched democrat in Nevada. It is always
uphill going against a democrat. I wanted you to tell
everybody how this race is shaping up so far, and
what the differences are between the leadership that you would
bring the United States Senate versus your opponent, Jackie Rosen.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yeah. So most of the listeners, because they're you know,
politically attuned, are going to be familiar with the name
Harry Reid. And so, you know, Jackie Rosen is her
start point is Harry Reid. She was a protege of
his and even though he's dead now, you know, his
legacy still lives on and he created you know, somewhat
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of them machine here that brought her into the Senate
in twenty eighteen. She had served one term in the
House starting in twenty sixteen, but she's really been absent
from the state. And as you can imagine, someone who
didn't have to really work hard and create her own
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path to representing the people of Nevada, she's just well
conditioned to follow leadership, whether it's Chuck Schumer or Joe Biden.
Kamala Harris, she has been just a follower along the way. Now,
the impact that it's had here in the state is
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we've got the second highest unemployment rate in the nation,
We've got the second highest energy costs in the nation,
and people have been really economically hurt by this. She
also sits on the Homeland Security Committee, a committee in
a position where she got to be able to push back,
bring a accountability, provide oversight on the border crisis. And
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yet when President Trump was still in office, she tried
to slow roll and pushed back on his initiatives and
under you know, Kamala Harris, as the borders are in
Joe Biden's leadership, she's done nothing to bring accountability there.
My offer to the folks is quite the opposite. We
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do need someone who understands the hardships of these economic policies.
Here's an interesting contrast. Six years ago, while she was
running for Senate as a congresswoman, I was working in
an Amazon warehouse. I know what it's like to work hard,
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you know, a ten hour shift to be able to
afford just just enough. Today. You know, I'm a successful businessman.
I'd started a business over these last six years, but
you know things are still tight from my family, just
like a lot of Nevadas. I bring that perspective, and
that's what we need to someone who understands the impact
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of the policies and can lead on them.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown. You're going to be
with President Trump later today in Nevada, which is a
battleground state for people out there that are listening to
us right now. We know the Senate race in twenty
twenty two came down to a razor's edge. I would
imagine that your polling and your data shows that the
whole state of Nevada is going to come down to
(37:30):
a couple of thousand votes one way or the other.
In all sincerity, how can people help you? What do
you see on the ground and what are you expecting
with this rally that Trump is going to have with
you later this afternoon this evening.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Yeah, people are hungry for leadership. And you're right, just
two years ago it was the closest Senate race in
the nation. It was a razor's edge. We're seeing polling
kind of shaping up like that again. But we've got
additional things in our favor. One of the reason is
that race was lost last cycle is we had Republicans
not turning out. There was over one hundred thousand Republicans
(38:06):
that just didn't come out to vote. And so we've
got to get everyone committed to voting and and you know,
being involved to the extent they can. People can go
to Captain sand Brown dot com to contribute from across
the nation. But if you live in Nevada, you know,
people in Nevada. At the end of the day, it's
not who raises the most money that wins. That's who
has the most votes that wins. And our polling is
(38:27):
showing that it's very close. But we're we're pushing into into,
you know, groups of independents who haven't traditionally voted for Republicans,
and Republicans haven't really pursued. But I believe that you know,
sort of a business philosophy. Anyone can be a customer,
any voter can any any registered voter out there could
(38:50):
vote for me. I need to go make the case.
We've been doing that and we've seen the polls really
tighten up and we're right within the margin. Evra now.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Outstanding stuff. Captain Sam Brown. If we were in Nevada,
we'd be voting for you. We know your mom is
thank her for listening. But we would also encourage everybody
out there in the state of Nevada get out work.
If you can afford, go donate at Captain Sam Brown
dot com. Tell President Trump we said hi, and have
a great event this evening.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Well, dude, thank you both, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
And thank you for your service.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Sam, you're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact
with Clay and.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Buck, and I would encourage all of you to do
what my wife Laura did, who was fired up about
election security. She is volunteering in our local poll and
I'll be working there.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
She spent Yeah at this, she'll be there on election day.
She got trained. She is ready to go. H And
also when we had wat Lee on at the RNC,
he told all of you we appreciate the email we
really do to us saying hey, you need to let
people know they're going to cheat, they're going to try
to rig the election, all these things. We appreciate it.
(40:07):
But what would be better than you emailing Buck and
me is if you out there could make the decision
to volunteer yourself to help with election security. And the
RNC is signing people up left and right, particularly if
you have the time. Some of you are lawyers and
(40:27):
you want to be poll watchers. They are desperately asking
for you to be involved. So if you truly care
about the sanctity and security of the election, the best
thing you can do is give your labor over to
the RNC to help ensure we have fair and faithful
and secure elections.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
And I'm just gonna say it, I mean the Trump
team legally speaking, was outmaneuvered by the twenty twenty COVID stuff.
Well we don't have COVID now, okay, But the way
that the laws were changed or even broken, ey would
are you in some states to allow voting patterns that
would be more favorable to Democrats. There's been plenty of
time to challenge all that. Plenty of time to get
(41:07):
in front of you know, it's what happened in twenty
twenty in part, and please don't tell me, but what
about this and what about that? I don't have six
hours to talk about this right now, but one part
of it was, Hey, they did this. They shouldn't have
allowed those votes to be in in that way that
they at the time were allowed to be cast. Once
votes are cast and people have been told, you're allowed
(41:29):
to cast them that way, even if it violates the
state constitution, as I believe it did in Pennsylvania, to
have it's very You're just not going to get a
judge to be like, well, people voted in good faith,
so that doesn't matter. We're just gonna say it didn't count.
They're just not going to do it. And I remember
I said that at the time. My point here isn't
oh but nothing matters. My point is they've got to
(41:49):
get ahead of it. They've got time to get ahead
of it. They've had four years. I'm not saying that
we won't see shenanigans. I'm saying we need to be
ready for it. And going into this with well, they're
gonna cheat, we're not. We don't sit and cry in
advance of seeing what the scoreboard is run. Let's beat
the cheat and run the scoreboard up so high that
it would be laughable to think that Donald Trump hasn't
(42:11):
won this election.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, and let's expand the number of states where we
are putting them in play. This is why I mentioned
New Hampshire and Virginia. Everybody focused on Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
deservedly so, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. But keeping
a lot of states within a close margin makes it
(42:35):
really hard. The great analogy, or the great sort of
metaphor for this, which you've seen in cartoons forever, is
the guy who's trying to plug the dam that starts
to pop with a bunch of different holes in it,
you know the cartoon. That is what needs to happen
in twenty twenty four. And we are now the race itself.
(42:56):
Even if you talk to the most dieheard Democrat, it's
all on Democrat Party twenty twenty twenty one states, with
the exception of North Carolina. The other six agreed upon battlegrounds,
and we could expand it to again New Hampshire and
to Virginia, but all of the battlegrounds are Democrats having
(43:19):
to defend right now, North Carolina. I feel like a
lot of you listening in North Carolina is going to
go red. Got to show up and vote, got to
do everything. But Trump won North Carolina in twenty sixteen,
he won North Carolina in twenty twenty. I don't think
that suddenly Kamala Harris is gonna win in twenty twenty four.
A lot of work to be done, but that's the
only state buck that they're even spending money on. That
(43:41):
is a quote unquote red state from twenty twenty. Every
other battleground state, blue state that Biden won that Kamala
is trying to defend, they're on their back heel. We
just got to pour on more steam here. And that's
what I think the elect the debate tomorrow can do
if Trump shows up and deliver versus a solid performance.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
We'll get into this more when it happens, but I
just have been thinking about it a bunch already. If
Trump wins this debate tomorrow, I don't think he should.
I don't think he should debate again because Kamala's going
You're gonna know that he has won because of not
only what the polls show, but then the campaign, the
Kamala campaign, will be open to.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Suddenly she's going to show up desperate, begging for another
opportunity to change the trajectory.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
And if I'm Trump, at that point, I just said, no,
why we did this once? You know that's all you
agreed to, and you know I'm not playing this game anymore.
And she can go around and whine because the whining
at that point would be obvious to everybody, is just
a function of she knows she's losing. I mean, here's
the the neck and neck narrative and the oh, it's
(44:46):
so close. Two weeks ago, it was Kamala's winning in
every swing state. Haha, Kamala is going to win Comma.
You know that was the story from the media. The
only reason they're saying it's neck and neck now is
because they want everyone to think it's very, very close
and not. Oh so, Kamala is losing ground and Trump
is gaining ground with each passing day, which is what
(45:08):
is actually happening.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Did you see the panic though, when the New York
Times poll came out, because they know the New York
Times is not rigged in favor of Trump. The left
wing panic when they came out yesterday and showed Trump
up forty eight forty seven, up two points in a
multi candidate field. By the way, was legion. They are nervous,
(45:33):
they're afraid, they know that Kamala has tried to hide.
They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to move
the needle. And this is where to your point, Buck,
I think they're so challenged and why an October surprise
would be so difficult. Everybody knows what they think about
Donald Trump. Everybody knows. You've had since twenty fifteen to
(45:56):
decide where you are and what you think about Donal
Donald Trump. And to me, the most interesting part of
the New York Times Pollbuck, was that Trump is at
all time favorability highs in the New York Times poll.
They have spent nine years attacking him with everything they've got.
They tried to put him in prison in New York,
South Florida, d C. Georgia. They tried to bankrupt him,
(46:21):
They charged him with inappropriate behavior from over twenty years ago.
They changed the statute of limitations to allow these lawsuits
to even exist. And after all that, Buck, after billions
of dollars they have spent. Trump is more popular as
we are talking to you right now than he ever
has been in his entire political career, and to your point,
(46:44):
based on all the polling, he's in better shape right
now than he ever was in twenty sixteen or twenty
twenty as we get ready to start voting.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
One of my biggest concerns with the way that they
have waged the law fair campaign against Trump has been
all along the precedent that it sets, and everyone has
talked about the crossing of the rubicon because it is
something that we have never seen before. I truly mean
this to me. The only way to even try to
(47:14):
put that genie back in the bottle is for Donald
Trump to win this election and therefore for it to
be a clear rejection of the lawfair tactic to try
to win a presidential election, to have left wing Democrat
prosecutors and a left wing Democrat judge and a left
(47:36):
wing Democrat jury come up with some just absurd, absurd
case and you know, criminal allegation, all this stuff. If
Donald Trump loses, it's going to be hard not to
think that this won't be replicated in the future. If
Donald Trump wins, I think it will at least be
something of a rebuke to the lawfair narrative, which is
(47:58):
really important. Honestly goes beyond even just Trump in this election.
It goes to the future of the country.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
So I think it also Buck to your point, not
just law fair. I think if Trump wins, the entire
concept of identity politics is going to have to get
re examined by Kamala Harris because she is the ultimate
DEI candidate black woman that supposedly is going to unite
all the different people of various ethnic groups in America
(48:24):
and bring him out to the polls and take back
control of the country from awful old white men like
Donald Trump who are racist. And I think if she loses,
I really do buck. I think they're going to have
to go back and recalibrate that stuff.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
I don't think so, man. I think they just need
a better minority politician. I just think.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
That might be true, But who is that person. The
one thing I think they certainly have done is they
underrated Barack Oboba's talent as a minority politician or as
a politician period. Look, Corey Booker tried it. Kamala Harris
has tried it. There have been a bunch of people
who have tried to pick up the Barack Obomba mantle,
and they're just not anywhere near as likable or charismatic
(49:04):
or in frankly I think, intelligent as he was. And
I don't think Barack Obamas are easy to replace, just
like Ronald Reagan's are not easy to replace. It's hard
to find really talented politicians.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Comparing Obama and Reagan. Hey, we got calls coming in.
In terms of the actual appeal of the nation, I
think there have been three really yeah, three really talented
politicians in the last forty years, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Seriously, George w vote, but he was a supremely talented politician.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Oh that's what you know.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
I do.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Use was telling you, no, no, no, you have to He
was a He would have won. Look, here's a good example.
There are three presidents in my life that if they
could have run for a third term, they would have won.
Reagan would have won an eighty eight. Clinton would have
won in two thousand, Obama would have won in sixteen.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Clinton's win in two thousand leading into September eleventh, because
it would have happened on his watch would have changed
the entire reality of the Clinton presidency. And also if
he had to deal with the stock market crash that came,
because the stock market boom from the Internet was really
what gave the Clinton economy the whole Oh my gosh,
it's amazing. But but but you.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
But you, Billy?
Speaker 3 (50:22):
And it was Bill good with people? Was he good
at kissing baby?
Speaker 5 (50:25):
Well?
Speaker 3 (50:26):
I mean, you know, was he good at doing the
things that he did. I'm just you know, there's nobody else.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
You and I are have been alive basically for every
election since eighty there's only three presidents that could have
won a third term. I think since nineteen eighty those
are the three.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I mean, I think, yeah, I think Bill Clinton might
have won a third term. But I think that would
have been that would have changed the narrative in a
lot of ways.
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