October 13, 2024 • 53 mins
Trump’s triumphant return to Butler and a trio of candidates talk about important Senate races in Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the Clay,
Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get started. Here are Clay and Bucks.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We are joined now by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin,
who wanted to react to a story that came out
in the Wall Street Journal that said that Democrat Senator
Tammy Baldwin was getting really nervous because she saw Trump
up three in her internal polling, because Eric Covedy, who's
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running to try to replace her, was only down two.
You know the state of a Wisconsin and what it
takes to win senator better than almost anybody. Thanks for
giving us the time. What are you seeing on the
ground and what's likely to be a very close race, Well,
a lot of enthusiasm for President Trump and Eric Covedy
and our Republican canvas up and down the ballot.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Let's face it, when a canadaate releases internal polls that
aren't good, I mean that's a sign of desperation, it's
a cry for help. And so that's a very good sign.
But we take nothing for granted. You know, all these
polls to show big margins in Wisconsin, they're always wrong
because Wisconsin is a very purple state. I would say
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more trending blue quite honestly, when you take a look
at the you know the history of statewide races. But
in this case, I'm believing that it is shifting, primarily
because Republicans now are viewed as the party of the
working men and women of this country. I was at
the Trump rally in Dodge County and I had a
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great conversation with a pretty good group of UAW union
members and they were incredibly enthusiastic. I mean, you know
what going to Trump rallies like, right, I mean you
got yeah, Dan spend a lot of time in line.
It's going to be a eight, nine, ten, twelve hour
day attending and they were happy to do it. So no,
this is you know, if the Cook report has this
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race to toss up. I appreciate you having me on.
Eric Hubday needs your support. Erichobday dot com. Pammy Baldwin's
entire campaign is just a smear, just lying about an
extraordinary individual, a serial entrepreneur has taken his success set
up the Eric hub Day Foundation, which has built shelters
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for trafficked children all around the world, and yet Tammy
Balden rather than run on her record because she has none. All.
Her campaign is just a bunch of livees. Let's face it,
like every other Democrat candidate running for national officer right
now is just a pack of lives. So again, erichobday
dot com. He needs support nationally. This is entirely winnable.
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He needs the resource to refute all the lives.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You have won a couple of races that it came
down to the absolute nitty gritty. Twenty sixteen, I think
they stop spending money on your behalf. You won twenty
twenty two, you won by I think you can correct me,
like twenty five thousand roughly votes. What does in your
mind Trump and Huvedy need to do to win the
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Senate seat and take control of the Senate back, because
make no mistake, that would do it, and also to
win back the presidency. Where is this race to you
likely to be decided?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Ground game? Ground game, ground game. That's always been true.
Democrats have the advantage of being able to mine their
votes in Milwaukee, Madison, a couple other areas. Republicans we
have to mind votes in every little town in Wisconsin.
But that's true. Our advantage because those people in the
rural areas, people that are working smaller factories, they realize
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we are on their side. And so it's all about
ground game. We obviously are pushing early voting. I mean,
listen to your show for those exact same reasons. In Wisconsin,
we could have the miserable day on election day, right,
So we don't want to be ahead on an election day,
and normally we're a few hundred thousand votes behind. We
want to be ahead, and as you've been reinforcing, that
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allows us to concentrate all of our get out to
vote efforts on the low propensity voters who will decide
to see elections. So if you're going to vote anyway,
vote early, get it done. We don't have to waste
our time and resources, you know, calling you up encourage
you to vote. So it's all about ground game.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, and let me reemphasize that too, because look, I'm
in Tennessee. The likelihood that we're going to have some
massive winter storm is low, and so I think some
people don't really pay attention to the weather. But in Nevada,
you know this, the fate of the Senate may well
have been determined by a freak snowstorm that hit in
northern Nevada and drove down turnout. Where you are in Wisconsin,
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the weather can flip in a hurry. Michigan, Pennsylvania, places
where the weather come early November. I mean, you could
speak to it way better than I can. But anybody
who ever watches a Green Bay Packers game has seen
this happen. Suddenly the weather can be bad and people
don't want to don't have the ability or the time
to be in line on election day, right, I mean
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this is so important for everybody.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, and you know Trump's first rally in Green Bay
in April it was miserable. We got three or four
inches of driving sleep. I almost got knocked over from
my walk from the rally to my car. The wins
were so terrible. So no prime example. We have to
get out and we've got to vote early and again
support Eric Hoveday erichoveday dot com because one of the
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things I've been promoting is trip up elections, making sure
that we have as many Republicans on the ball as possible.
Those folks run their campaign, they get their sick, you know,
their second, fifth, and fifteenth cousin out voting for them,
They're gonna vote for people up ball as well. So again,
this is what we've been doing to the Republican Party Wisconsin.
This is what the quite honestly, the large donors in
Wisconsin been promoting the ground game, early voting. So we've
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got the game plan. It's about execution.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
At this point, we're talking to Senator Ron Johnson, who
knows better how to win close elections in Wisconsin than
probably anybody in the country. You heard that internal poll
come out about Tammy Baldwin saying Trump's up three on
Kamala I think you were listening, but the Quinnipiac poll
just just came out having Trump up in Wisconsin. You
say it's a purple state, it's gonna be tight no
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matter what. You saw what happened in sixteen with Trump,
you saw what happened in twenty. How would you compare
the on the ground feeling, which admittedly is anecdotal and
square with what you're seeing in the numbers.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, just compare rallies. You know, I've seen sort of
the you know, they make it look good for Kamala Harris,
but not even close to the number of people that
are coming out for Trump and again it's it's a
real commitment to do that. It's a lot, a lot
of time, a lot of waiting. And you know what's
interesting about those Trump rallies. I don't think people really
understand this. And what is so much fun for people
to attend them is you're talking and you're gathering with
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people who fervently love this country like President Trump does.
I mean, it is a phenomenon. I actually feel sorry
for people who aren't even swing state that don't get
to experience a Trump rally. It is, it is phenomenal.
And you know, again, this is the third year of
a campaign. Here, third campaign the Trump's gone through, and
from my standpoint, the enthusiasm of the Trump rallies is
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as high, it's not higher than it has ever been.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
If people are concerned about election integrity in Wisconsin, what
would you tell them to do? Because I don't know
if you've heard me, Senator, my wife's concerned. She has registered,
she is going to be working the poll at her
local jurisdiction. We get these questions all the time. What
would you tell them they should do in Wisconsin?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Well, volunteer to be election observers. You know, I think
we'll probably have all those shifts filled, but just in case,
we already recruited over five thousand poll workers. Of they've
got to sign up a year ahead of time, but
they've been trained, they get paid, they're the ones actually,
you know, administering the election. So that helped tremendously in
twenty twenty two, where I didn't have to wait till
three four o'clock in the morning because we had put
works in Milwaukee to get the election results in. So
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we've got that. Unfortunately, we have a Democrat governor who
has vetoed all the other election reforms that would have
restored confidence in our election system. So again it's really
all about having eyes on the process and not. My
biggest concern, honestly is illegal immigrants voting. Probably less of
an issue in Wisconsin because we're we're feeling the pain
of the open border, primarily through drug trafficking, but we
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have a migrant population here, and again it's undeniable. We
are seeing illegal immigrants being registered to vote throughout the country,
oftentimes without their knowledge. G how does that happen? So again,
the FBI, all these you know, all these federal officials
are completely ignoring this and President Biden uses his exective
order to order his agencies, his departments to register voters.
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G I'm sure they're doing that a non partisan basis.
So that's my biggest concern is this, these millions of
people coming in here, registering, potentially voting and giving the election.
So to me, that is the biggest problem that I see.
In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
We're talking to Senator Ron Johnson. I want to come
back to you saying that a lot of times Republicans
are having to make up a big deficit because there's
so much early voting. They get out the vote, they harvest,
they do whatever they can. On the Democrat side, do
you think that you're going to see record high early
voting from a Republicans And if so, what sort of
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signs are that are there? And how you said you
can get a lot better targeting. But that means on
election day when Republicans we know we're going to show
up much more. It's just like a sporting event, right,
you don't want to have to make up the biggest
possible deficit.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Well, we've first of all, never had this effort. This,
We've never had. This is our primary mission, our primary
strategy in an election to early vote. So everybody's signed
up for it. You know, the Trump rally, the biggest
banner was vote early. Okay, So no, this is something
we're pushing again. We have to execute on it. Our
repugnants have to you know, follow our directive and get
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out there and do it. But again, people understand what's
at stake. They truly do. They love this country. They're
so concerned about what's happened under Democrat governance. So yeah,
I'm working tirelessly. I know a lot of people are
to actually accomplish this goal.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Outstanding stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Senator, on your way out one more time, What can
people do for Eric Covedy as well?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
He needs resources to refute all the lives Eric Huveday
dot com please flood just campaign with money so he
can again win this this very winnable Senate seat.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Very winnable. Indeed, could put Senator Ron Johnson back in
the majority. Could make a tremendous difference for the country.
Everybody in Wisconsin, listen to us, get out and vote,
Get out and vote early, Take friends and family to
the polls.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Senator, we appreciate you, say, well, take care of thanks.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Look, I mean Ron Johnson knows better than anybody how
to win close races, and I'm telling you he wanted
to come on and he wanted you guys to know.
Eric Covedy can win. And my goodness, if Tammy Baldwin lose,
it is and Donald Trump wins. We are the number
one show in Milwaukee right now. You guys in Wisconsin
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have the ability to deliver the United States Senate and
the presidency to the Republican Party. We just spend an
awesome time with y'all up for the Republican National Convention.
I am telling you the momentum is there. You just
heard me talk about the Quinnipiac polls. Get out and
vote early.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
The weather.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You guys know way better than me that the weather
can flip in a heartbeat. Get your vote banked, and
start working on other people. It came down to twenty
thousand votes in Wisconsin last time. Wisconsin was the closest
of all those states. I'm telling y'all, Kamala can't win
if she loses Wisconsin. The math doesn't math.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
She knows it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
You guys can make this happen. I can feel it.
It's right there.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
If you're listening to twenty the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
We're joined now by man we hope it's the next
next Senator from the state of Pennsylvania, Dave McCormick. He
is running right now against Casey who's been there for
a long time, and he is campaigning in Pittsburgh with
Senator Sullivan of Alaska. And I believe we had Senator
Sullivan on this show recently, so we appreciate him being
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out on the road with you. But Dave, what are
you seeing out there on the road. We know the
momentum for you is through the roof, the amount of
fundraising you've been doing, the crowds, everything else. What are
you seeing in Pennsylvania for your race for Trump and
for the possibility of Pennsylvania as a state that can
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decide not only the presidency but the Senate.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Hey, guys, thanks thanks for having me. You know, I
feel a real momentum shift on the ground, and I
think what happened is Kamala Harris had a sugar high.
But what's happening is Pennsylvania is getting to know Kamala
Harris and they what they're finding out is he is
a San Francisco Liberal with an extreme agenda, and you know,
I think Pennsylvania's maybe the one place where it would
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have been better for the Democrats have Joe Biden, because
Grant and Joe had all these connections to labor and
the Democratic infrastructure. So what you're seeing is, you know,
President Trump is here all the time, he was, did
two rallies yesterday. I think he's got great momentum. He's
turning out the vote. I think people that see Harris
are starting to recognize she's not qualified and is much
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too liberal for Pennsylvania. And then in my race, they
know that Bob Casey is a thirty year career politician.
This is a guy who who, when the bullet starts flying,
ducks his head and has voted for his week. He's
voted for this extreme liberal agenda of Biden Harris ninety
nine percent of the time, and he'll do the same
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with Harris Waltz. So that's why you see this shift.
My pullings all closing. I feel great momentum on the
ground and I think I think we keep this up,
we're gonna win.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
How much are you seeing I mean, I think you're
in a phase here where Democrats generally Dave are a
little cornered and feeling a little desperate in a lot
of places. Klenn Iver was talking beforehand, We're hopeful that
you'll be joining him on this edit. But it looks
like Tim Sheehey, for example, is just blowing out incumbent
Tesla and Montana. So there's some really good trends right now.
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The wind seems to be at the back of top
tier GOP candidates.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Including you.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Looks like you're really close to being able to pull
this out against Casey, which would be the Democrats would
be upset about this one, Dave, which would be great.
The more upset they are, the happier we are. Are
they trying to pull last minute abortion stuff. I'm just wondering,
what is the desperation playbook for Casey in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
I'm not really a Democrat, I'm a Maverick. What are
they doing? I'm just want to be familiar with with
where they are.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Well, the starting point is just you know, they have
more money. I mean, I've raised a lot of money and.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I'm a wealth.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Finance candidate, and I'll be outspent by one hundred million
dollars in Pennsylvania with his attack ads on all sorts
of lies regarding my Pennsylvania roots, my business career, abortion,
just one lie after another. It makes you you just
can't believe the amount of lying. So that's the first
thing they're doing. And then Bob Casey literally doesn't have
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a record to defend because he's been a real failure
as a senator. So ninety percent of his campaign is
about attacking me. But I don't think it's working. And
the reason I don't think it's working is because people
want to know I have leadership that's going to take
him in the right direction. And that's why the polls
are closing. The second thing in the great twist of fate,
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I was with Trump yesterday and I mentioned this to him.
Bob Casey's actually running an ad saying that he worked
with President Trump to put the China tariffs in place.
I mean, it's just so ridiculous. Like I don't think
I've ever met Bob Casey. What's he looked like? I mean,
this is this is absolutely shows you vulnerability. And then
and then Bob Casey's flipping all his positions a good example.
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It may seem small, but in Pennsylvania it's big. Bob
Casey's been opposed to whole milk in schools.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
The farmers hate him.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
The dairy farmers in particular hate him because he's not
been for this. He's sort of bought into Michelle Obama's
ridiculous ideas that we should take whole milk out of schools.
And just last week he flip foffed on this issue.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
He's flip flopped.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
On many issues. He's all of a sudden a strong
supporter of fracking, even though he's been a foe of
fracking in every way. Possibly you can ban fracking well
without ever banning fracking. You just have regulations and red
tape and lawsuits and and don't do anything. And that's
exactly what he's done. So he's he's starting it. He's
starting it to panic and and I think that's right
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where we want him. And you know, I've got a
experience with.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
This in wrestling.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
I know, I wrestled in college. I was the K
cabinet team and Army. I would always know if I
could get into the third period within a point or two,
I'd win, Because the third period is not about wrestling.
It's about mental toughness, it's about heart, it's about staying
in offense. It's about just keeping pressure on this guy,
and he's under pressure. He's never had this before, and
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I think that's why he's wavering.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You absolutely rocked him. I watched the debate. I thought
you did a fantastic job. I'd encourage people to check
it out if they haven't. I'm coming up with you.
I know you've got a billion events between now and then,
but I want our audience to know you and I
are going to be doing an event surrounding the Penn
State Ohio State game on November two, that's the Saturday
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before the election. I think if I've got that date
right and we're going to be in state college.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
There are events, and there are events. This is Clay Travis,
Penn State, Ohio State, a white out, a huge tailgate,
you and I save in America. That's what this is about. No,
this is going to be epic. I'm so glad you're coming,
and it's gonna be fun. We're going to have a
huge turnout and it's going to be three days before
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the election, so this is going to be a big one.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So people out there who are college football fans and
also people who believe that we need to take the
country back. I will be there. I cannot wait. That's
going to be an awful lot of fun. I did
want to ask you associated with that you were at
the Butler rally when Trump was shot July thirteenth. You
mentioned you went to West Point, you were at Army.
You've been around and heard a lot of gunshots over
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the years. What did it feel like to be back
in Butler. What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Well, you know, as you know, that was quite an
experience the first time because I had gone up on
the stage and then President Trump had asked me to
sit back down because you wanted to talk about the border,
and then have me back up later, and the bullis
follows and thereafter this was you know, I have two
reactions to the second Butler Rally. One was you just
feel this enormous sense of both relief but recognition. It's
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a time for strength and the President Trump we saw
on that stage at the first Butler rally shot under fire.
I know Senator Sullivan knows the same thing. When one
hundred people get shot, at ninety nine of them stay down,
and it takes a rare person to stand up and
President Trump stood up on that day and showed a
lot of courage, and I think that's what people want
more than anything Else's strained. Second reaction was I sat
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next to the Compertour family, his widow and his two daughters.
Once twenty eight was twenty four. As you know, Clay,
I have six daughters, and it was just heart wrenching.
I mean, they were so I think, honored to have
their father paid such tribute as an American hero who
threw himself in front of them and saved their lives.
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But it was also just you know, a family that
lost lost dad, lost a husband and seeing it through
their eyes a tribute to their husband, Corey the father,
but also just the sadness of the loss was really
it really it almost hit me much more by being
with them than the first rally did, even though I know,
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you know, we had lost his life, seeing it like
that really really left the mark.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Speaking to Dave McCormick, he's running for a critical Senate
seat in Pennsylvania battleground Pennsylvania the most important state in
this election, it seems, by far, across the board, both
of the presidency and then obviously a very important Senate
battle underway there amazing to hear that you're being out
outspent by, not that he's spending one hundred million dollars,
that you're being outspent by one hundred million dollars. I
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know that the presidential side of this is three hundred
and fifty million. I mean, I don't be the money
being thrown into these media buys has got to be crazy.
Tell me this, though, when you do you come across,
When you come across, I'm sure you do, because you're
out there doing what you do and campaigning and you
know it's it's the absolute sprint part of this campaign, Dave.
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When you come across and undecided, or when someone comes
up to you and says, I like you, but I'm
not sure yet. You know what I mean, I'm sure
you have this. What do they need to know or
what do they want to know that they don't yet
that can push them over the line.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Like, when you come across one of these undecideds, what
are they undecided about at this point?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Well?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I think it's I'm still you know, I'm running against
the dynasty and people ask me about that, and I
say the thing about dynasties is they all had at
some point, And so people who I am so I
talk about three things. I say, Basically, you know the
country's going in the wrong direction, and most people agree
with that. I say, this is a choice between a
seventh generation of Pennsylvania and outsider, a business guy at
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a west point, grab a combat bet against someone who's
been a career politician, who's been weak, and who has
voted for these extreme liberal policies. And then I am
by saying, listen, if you think the status quo is okay,
then you should probably vote for center Casey. You're going
to get more of that. If you think we're in trouble,
do you think we need change, you think we need
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someone who's gonna fight for Pennsylvanian, doesn't know anybody anything
other than Pennsylvanians, then I'm your guy. And that seems
to convince most of those folks on the fence that
they should take a chance on new leadership.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
We're talking to Dave McCormick.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm curious in Pennsylvania political circles Democrat, Republican, Independent, are
there people starting to look around saying what in the
world was Kamma of thinking picking Tim Walls instead of
potentially Josh Shapiro the governor there, because there have to
be you have to come across not only at a
buck's point people who are trying to decide how they're
going to vote, but even Democrats have to be a
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little bit panicked right now with what they're seeing right.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Well, totally Well, i'd say center Sliv and I were
just talking about that. I'd say two things. One, just
as a political matter, I think it was a bad calculus.
I mean, I think governorship he who He and I
have a number of disagreements, but he's a very able
person and he would have been very strong in Pennsylvania,
and he's very very strong nationally in supporting that ticket.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
But I think it says a lot about the Democratic Party.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
I think it's impossible to imagine that the fact that
Governor Shapiro's Jewish didn't factor into her thinking, Yeah, because
she did not want to alienate the extreme elements of
her party. And I think that's really all you need
to know about where that party is and what kind
of decision maker she is that she wouldn't pick someone
who's far more able and far more capable of stepping
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into the presidency than what Governor Waltsh is demonstrating every day,
which is he's just in over his head. This is
not a guy who's ready to assume the mantol of leadership.
And certainly that couple with Kamala Harris, who's proving in
every day with every interview, that she's not capable of
taking the mandol leadership. I think it was a miscalculation
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that showed weakness and moral.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Failure, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Look what in the very end here, Dave, we got
a few weeks, We've got you know, the ballots are
already being filled out, sent in all this stuff in
different states. What can people do? We have a lot
of listeners in Pennsylvania. We could have just taken an
hour of calls, the first hour of people calling in
from Pennsylvania. What can people do to help both push
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you President Trump and other Republicans across the finish line here?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Well, first, when I talk about me and my race,
everything you do for me and other candidates really helps
us up and down the ballots. It's a team sport.
And so I'm so grateful for all the support that
we're getting. And we got to have a big turnout,
and so for you listening, you must vote. You can't
not vote, that's the first thing. But you got to
get other people to vote, people to register, people to
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get out there, people to submit their ballots early, not
take a risk of bad weather that day, and convince
people who are Republicans to get out there, and convince
people that are independents or Demoocrats who aren't you know,
who are on the fence that we need a good,
good leadership to take us forward. I'm a Republican, I'm
a conservative, but I'm running to represent all Pennsylvanians, and
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uh we need leadership and change. And these these problems, uh,
the sky high prices, the fentanyl crisis, the war on
fossil fuse, these are these are problems that affect every
single Pennsylvanian and uh so I'm hoping we can get
people listening today to be energized again. Dave MCCORMICKPA dot
com for details about my campaign, my positions, an opportunity
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to volunteer there for people want to volunteer. But we
got it. We got to energize our voters because this
is the most important election of our lifetimes.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com. You just heard it there. I
will be with him in PA in a couple of weeks.
We may need to get you on again before that,
but certainly I look forward to seeing you in State College,
PA for that big game and helping to to also
win back the country.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Keep up the good work.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Thanks guys, Thanks thank for having me.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
You're listening to twenty four the Most Important Tier in
Politics with Clay Travis and Box Sexton.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
We are joined now by Senator Ricketts of the Great
State of Nebraska and Senator I think this is the
first time you've been on with us. Appreciate you making
the time. I want to start with a question that
is extremely local in scope but could have major national residents,
and that is what do you think happens in Omaha?
The one electoral vote there? We got a lot of
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people listening on kfab We love you in Omaha at
a fabulous time at the College World Series.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Great group of people. What are you seeing their?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Senator, how does that shake out not only in the
electoral college but also I think there's a toss up
congressional race there.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
Yeah, absolutely for your listeners may not be aware the
Seon Congressional District in Omaha is also at standalone electoral
College vote because of frankly, a partisan move by Democrats
back in the nineteen nineties to split up our electoral
College votes by congressional district. So if you win the
state overall, you get two electoral college votes, and then
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every congressional district stands alone. You have to win that individually.
And President Trump won this district in twenty sixteen but
lost it in twenty twenty, and so it just shows you,
I mean, in just in general, this district is very
it's like one of the few purple districts left in
the country. It's split very fifty to fifty. So it's
always a tough congressional seat. So Don Bacon, my congressman,
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is always has a tough race. He won it by
two points last time around in twenty two and it's
going to be a tough race again this year for him,
and it's going to be a tough race for President
Trump as well, So it's definitely going to be a challenge.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Senator Ricketts, appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
The Republicans had a chance to change the situation of
the Omaha district and didn't.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Is that correct? And what I mean, what can you
tell us about that?
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Because for a lot of people, it's they have the
power to change it. It was a partisan move when
Democrats did it. Why not set it right and put
it in line with a vast majority of the rest
of states.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Absolutely, Well, that's something that we tried when I was governor.
We attempted to do it every year I was governor,
tried to get a change back to winter take call,
which is what forty eight other states do, and we
always got blocked by the Democrats. So in our one
house legislature, we have a fillbuster rule, so you need
to get thirty three of the forty nine centers to
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pass anything that's controversial, and the Democrats always had enough
votes to be able to block us from getting it
done when I was governor. And sadly it's the same
thing with Governor Pillan. We did have a Democrat reregistered
as a Republican, but he basically changed his party registration.
It's not a philosophy, and so he would not go
along and put out a letter saying he was not
going to vote for winner take Call, and so we
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did not have the thirty three votes we needed to
be able to get that change this year. Something we're
going to have to keep trying and just work.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Wait, that's that's really important, because I haven't heard that
said anywhere. You basically have a stealth Democrat with an
R by his name who is blocking the change to
a winner take all electoral college in Nebraska, and that
sounds like what's going on here, Well, he's.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
Not a stealth Democrat. Everybody knows he's a Democrat.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Well, well, yeah, you guys all know. The rest of
the country, though, is all thinking, wait, a Republican blocked this?
Speaker 8 (29:29):
Yeah, okay, well from that stan point, Yeah, but he
just reregisters al you as a Republican this year. So
it was not like a you know, he did this
a while ago. And when I was governor, for example,
I served with him, he was in the legislature, and
he was always a Democrat when I was there, So
again it was not shocking. We made a run at him,
try to get him to go along with it, but
as I said, he'd like changed his party registration, but
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not a philosophy.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Okay, so let's go in.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
We also have a big Senate race and for people
who may not be paying a lot of attention. I
know a lot of our audience is. But in Nebraska
you can speak to this.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You know the.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Difference between being the majority and the minority, huge difference.
West Virginia is going to flip. Thank you West Virginians. Ohio.
Bernie Marino is looking like he has a really good
chance of beating Sharad Brown. Tim Shah, who we've had
on the show quite a lot, is looking very good
to beat. John Tester got competitive races in Pennsylvania, Michigan,
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and Wisconsin that could be going our way. What about Nebraska?
What do people need to know there? And what is
the difference between my majority and minority from your perspective?
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Yeah, so I am actually in cycled. So my story
is that I was governor from twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty three, and then Ben SaaS stepped down as our
junior senator, and Governor Pillen appointed me to the position.
So I'm running in a special election this year to
be able to finish out the last two years of
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Ben Sasa's term, and then would have to run again
in twenty twenty six for a six year term, and
then the regular cycle deb Fisher is up for election,
so we actually have both our Senate seats are up
in Nebraska this year, Okay, and dev has a tough
race because she's running against an independent who has got
Sorow's money behind her. He's out spending her on TV
two to one, and all the public polling I've seen
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shows that they're pretty much in a dead heat right now.
So we got to work to get the word out
to all Republicans say, hey, you got to vote for
deb Fisher. This guy, Dan Osborne is an independent, but
he's really a Democrat. He's getting you know, Acblue is
behind him. He was in Hollywood last week raising money.
I mentioned the Soro's money already. I mean, this is
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the profile of a Democrat, right and he's gonna even
though he hasn't said, I'm quite certain he's going to
caut us with the Democrats. So to your point about
getting control of the Senate, it would make it that
much harder if dan Osmann were to win. So we
need deb Fisher within and she just has to get
out there. We need to get Republicans on board. We
need to get republic to you know, come back to
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the Republican party, And remember that Deb is the conservative
Republican in this race, not Dan Osborne. He may have
some nice slick commercials where he talks about being independent,
but at the end of the day, we need to
make sure that we're taking control of the Senate for
two reasons. One either to God forbid Harris gets elected,
be a firewall against the crazy things she's going to
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want to do. Or in the case that we get
President Trump elected, we need to move fast to be
able to work on his agenda and quickly undo all
the damage that Biden Harris administration is done and do
things like get the twenty seventeen tax cuts, you know,
reupt and we need to make sure we'll get his
people confirm, you know, get his cabinet members in. So
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this is a big deal and Republicans of Nebraska really
need to, you know, make sure that they're voting for
Deb Fisher and turn out and vote because this is
this is an important part of the election.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Speaking of the Senator Ricketts of Nebraska, Senator, this is fascinating.
You know, we have seen very much coverage at all
of what's going on here in the Senate races that
you've been You've been talking about. And I got to say,
is this is this one of these moments where the
national level GOP and even more right leading media just
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a little little uh asleep at the wheel on this one.
It sounds like you got Sorow, a Soros back Democrat
pretending to be an independent, trying to steal what should
be a very winnable Senate seed. I mean, that's that's
something we got to raise the alarm over.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Yeah. Absolutely, it's something that we certainly has kind of
actually come upon us relatively quickly, like within the last
six weeks or so, because that's because that's when Osma's
been dumping money in the race. I mean he's out
spending Depth two to one, and we always get outspent
on the air, right in most of these competitive races,
Democrats always have more money. I mean, this is a
party of the rich elites, so they're getting all the
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sorrows money and you know, Tom Steyer and everybody else.
And in this case, you know, the thing to remember
about Nebraska is we're also very populist and we've had
that history here for one hundred years. So when somebody
comes along and he's got the nice slick ad and
says he's an independent that does appeal to Nebraskans. And
that's why we've got to remind, especially our conservative Republicans,
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that you can't be fooled by this guy's ads. We
need to vote for the conservative Republican and that is
Deubb Fisher. It's not going to be the other guy.
And of course the osmoren Nane is very popular here
in Nebraska because Tom Osborne, you know, got us some
national championship back in the nineteen nineties in football.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
But this is the guy that's not related.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
It's not anybody related.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
That's actually super important.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Again, it goes to me trusting college football fans more
than anyone. You guys are having a little bit of
a resurgence with the Nebraska Cornhusker program.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Big game coming up soon.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I think you're what five and one or four and one,
only one loss to Illinois one.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
Yeah, we're five and one actually looking pretty good at
the Big Ten right now, and we got Indiana coming
up in a couple of weeks, so that's gonna be
a big game. We win that game, then will be
bowled for the first time in a long time. So
we're really excited.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
This year, all of that rolling together. So again, like
just to kind of bring it home, you've got people
who are not actually in the best interest of the
country trying basically, i'll say it, to steal a race
that would not be winnable if this guy were running
as a Democrat, because I think you would acknowledge and
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probably recognize too, the Democrat brand in the heartland is
really toxic. So they're trying to do this sneakily by
running this guy as an independent. I think that's important
for Nebraskans to know.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
That is important for Nebraska's to know. In fact, the
Democrats have said this that they think the way to
win in red states is by running an independent, and
they're trying it here in Nebraska. And what we have
to do is show them, no, this is a bad idea.
You're not actually going to be able to win in
states like Nebraska because we actually are conservative. And to
your point, the Democrats have gone so far left. If
you look back in the nineteen nineties here in Nebraska,
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all of our state would elected offices. We're actually Democrats. Yeah,
and the Democrats have gone so far left with the
things they're doing. You know, they want abortion up until
the moment of birth. That's what this guy is running against,
my congressman, you know, is doing. He wants abortion up
in the moment birth, won't say when he would cut
off abortion. They're just crazy radical on that. And we
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know all the like boys playing girls sports. And of
course the spending is just out of control, the weakness
they show on the international stage, inflation, the open southern border,
I mean, all these things that Democrats are doing are
just not what Nebraskans want. And that's what you're going
to get with Dan Osborne if you if you vote
for him, that you're going to get high prices and
open borders, which is what this administration has been all about.
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You know, Harris has been all about this open border,
high prices, like, don't vote for more of that with
this guy who's exciting independent, is really a Democrat.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
No doubt, then, Senator, we appreciate it, and good luck
to the corn Huskers getting Bowl eligible and fighting their
way potentially into some big ten competent. A lot of
fun to watch them resurging. But remember this is not
Tom Osborne's relative, this is not your daddy's Nebraska Cornhusker connection.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Thank you for the time.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
Great, thanks a lot, appreiate it, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
I know I've been very impressed by the corn Husker defense.
Clay also the offense.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Very good.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
You're wearing your red because you knew we were talking
to Nebraska Cornhusker fans today. It was particular with that's
I think the first visit from from a senator from
Nebraska on the program.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So we'll do whatever we can to help.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
I know that Senate race issue that have you heard
that honestly talked about on any shows anywhere? Trying to
hide a seat playing site. That's exactly they're They're doing
it quietly because that's how they know they could pull
it off, because there's no way that a Republican shouldn't
win a Senate seat statewide race in Nebraska. Well, you
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know they're very sneaky. Soros money in there, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Be careful again, just ask the question, who are you
going to caucus with independence? In states like Nebraska, they
run as independence. Is what Joe Manchin did, This is
what Kirsten Cinema did. They eventually said, oh, I'm an independent,
but they continue to caucus with the Democrats. Well, an
independent who caucuses with the Democrat is a Democrat. Don't
let them hide from you what they are trying to
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sneak by. Again, we got the huge audience in Kfab
listening to us right now in Omaha. That electoral college
seat matters potentially a great deal, that is that one
electoral vote. But my goodness, just pay attention to what
they're trying to it's a fast one that they're trying
to slip past you there.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
If you're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact
with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
We are joined now by Sean Parnell, who was at
the massive Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania that ended July
thirteenth with a assassination attempt. Trump went back, had an
unbelievable crowd. Now get to that in a second, But first, Sean,
have you recovered from Dak Prescott's late touchdown pass last
night to beat your beloved Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 9 (39:11):
You know, I knew you were gonna lead off with
a question like that, and I'll tell you it was
a rough night here in Fort Parnell, because not only
did the Steelers fall to three and two, backsliding two
straight losses with Justin Fields at quarterback. But the Impeachables
my fantasy team unless Kareem Hunt comes off the bench
tonight for Monday Night Football and turns in a fifty
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point game. Yes, it looks like the Impeachables are going
to fall to three and two as well. Not good,
not good.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I'm in a tough spot in my fantasy league as well.
Anita some miracles to fight and I'm gonna fall to
three and two also. But let me get okay, that
is out there. Sorry for all the Steelers fans out there,
I had to hear about that. But let's go to
the rally itself. I believe you spoke there. What was
the what was the environment like? What did it feel like?
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Take us for those of us who were not there,
which the vast majority of listeners into that experience.
Speaker 9 (40:08):
Well, I have to say it was. It was crazy
and it was surreal to be back there. I did
a walk through the night before and I'll tell you
and for all the listeners, the setup was a little
bit different. But President Trump was absolutely insistent on that
stage being in the exact same location, and I think
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that's because he wanted to send a message to the
people of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that we're not finished yet.
He wanted to make good on his commitment to them,
but he also wanted to send a message to our enemies,
you know, both here and abroad, that as Americans, we
don't bend the need to fear, we don't bend the
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need to tyranny, and come hell or high water. President
Trump was standing on that stage and finishing what he started,
and I have to say I have a ton of
respect for that man for doing it, because you know,
I wasn't crazy, and I know my wife wasn't crazy
about going back to that place, but we felt like
we had to go back there because we had a
duty to go there, and President Trump clearly felt the
same way.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Sewn. I always appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Battleground Live podcast is on the Clay and Buck feed
for everybody listening. And also we're gonna have Sean filling
in on this show around Thanksgiving time, So Sean, you're
going to be in charge for all three hours at
the con.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
My friend, it's going to be exciting.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
In the meantime, What were some of the biggest takeaways
from just that day and also President Trump's speech and
and all of all of which you were able to
gather together. I mean a lot of us weren't able
to be there. So what what what did you walk
away thinking and feeling?
Speaker 7 (41:48):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 9 (41:49):
It was absolutely exhilarating on so many levels because it
was just one historic moment after the next.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
You know, I'm sitting there in the crowd and I hear, you.
Speaker 9 (42:00):
Know, God blessed the USA, right the Trump the song
that Lee Greenwood song that Trump walks out to, and
I'm thinking, dang, this sounds really good. And Lee Greenwood
walks out on stage ten feet in front of me.
He's saluting Trump, and I'm like, dang, this guy knows
how to entertain. And of course, much of what Trump
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talked about, especially in the early phases of his speech,
was Corey Coppertore's family and the other folks in the
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania who were wounded, and He's got this opera
singer coming out and everything else. And then there was
a woman at one point Buck and Clay up in
the stands who had a medical emergency. President Trump stopped
his speech in the middle of that, and then one
hundred thousand people spur of the moment started singing the
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Star Spangled Banner. It was just it was just an
unbelievably powerful moment and a powerful night on so many levels.
And again, not just a testament to President Trump's toughness,
but a testament to the character of the people of
Commonwealth of Pencil Venue who also wanted to show up
that day to send a message that we're not afraid
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and you know, we're going to be heard. And it
was just I have to tell you both, it was
amazing to be on that stage and look out over
what was definitely one hundred thousand people and like, look,
I was on stage with President Trump five days before
the November twenty twenty election in Butler County almost at
the same location, sixty five thousand people there. This was
this was different. There was something in the air that
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was special.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
And it just leads me.
Speaker 9 (43:29):
To feel real, real good about the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
in this election cycle.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Okay, let's dive into that, because you know Pennsylvania really well.
We're talking to Sean Parnell. Encourage you to listen to
his podcast as part of the Clay and Buck podcast
and Network twenty sixteen. It was an earthquake that Trump
won Pennsylvania in the political class twenty twenty, they pulled
out all the stops to try to find a way
to win it back. The absentee ballot request were through
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the roof. In terms of data, what I have seen,
Sean is that the enthusiasm for Democrats when it comes
to absentee ballot request nowhere near.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
What it was in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
And for people out there who say, well, there's not
a COVID going on, people are going to vote in
person more Republicans have actually had similar numbers when it
comes to absentee ballot requests in both twenty twenty and
twenty twenty four. So that would cut against that argument.
What are you seeing on the ground, what do you feel,
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and what from a data perspective does the math look
like to you?
Speaker 9 (44:37):
Yeah? Okay, So first of all, I've said here on
this show before that Pennsylvania is a state that closes
late and closes fast, and now you're seeing that play out. Well,
so what does that really mean? Well, look, Democrats can
win this state without a single Republican vote. Now we've
closed the voter registration deficit in Pennsylvania, by over fifty percent,
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six hundred and fifty thousand plus more Democrats in twenty
twenty then there were Republicans. That number is now three
hundred and twenty five thousand more Democrats than Republicans. Still
a big number, right, But the point is is that
we are we are. In order for Republicans to win
this state, you've got to win moderate Democrats, and you've
got to sway independence. Every single pole that I've seen,
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not just between Trump and Harris and Pennsylvania, but especially
between McCormick and Casey, has shown probably two months ago
McCormick down anywhere between seven and ten points in Pennsylvania
will now in almost every single pole they're tied. And
that tells me that moderate Democrats and independents are breaking Republicans.
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So the state is closing lateness, closing fast as it
typically does. Another thing that I need people to pay
attention to is look at the counties of Erie, Pennsylvania,
which is in the northwest of Pennsylvania, and Northampton, which
is in the northeast of Pennsylvania. Those are two blue
collar union Democrat counties. They are the bell weather of
the state of Pennsylvania, and President Trump is up in
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these two Bellweather counties on not just the top line polling,
but on all of the issues. From the border, he's
up fifteen. On inflation, he's up seven. On the economy
in general, he's up six. So issue after issue after
issue in these blue collar union Democrat counties are breaking Trump.
And again you see that play out in the polls
as well. Clay as well, Buck with Kamala just is suffering.
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She is hemorrhaging men right. And I cannot see for
the life of me, a blue collar union Democrat, somebody
who's worked with their hands their entire life in either
of those counties saying yeah, I'm gonna vote for Kamala Harris.
It's just not gonna happen. And last point I'll make
about the data. You look at the current mail in
request data. Democrats nine hundred and forty five thousand mail
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in ballot requests, Republicans four hundred and nineteen thousand, Independents
one hundred and sixty one hundred and seventy six thousand.
Now in twenty twenty, Republicans had six hundred and sixty
eight thousand requests five hundred and twenty four thousand returns
Democrat Democrats one point six at one point five million returns.
So in twenty twenty we lost the vote by mail
by nearly one million. But we're actually doing a lot
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better than we were in twenty twenty because let's say
of those one hundred and seventy six thousand independents who
have requested a mail in ballot, let's say forty percent
of them break our way, we are going to be
well over five hundred thousand ballots requested in twenty twenty four,
which is more than we had in twenty twenty. And Democrats,
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by contrast, they need that floor of twenty twenty mail
in ballots to be successful in that state, and they are.
They're not there yet, and at nine hundred and forty
five thousand they got to get to one point five
million returns. That the clock is ticking, guys, and I
just don't think that there's enough time for them to
make it up.
Speaker 6 (47:55):
Sean, what the ground game that Trump has, how is
it looking? How is it in these final weeks? And
you know you're telling you you're giving us a sense
of what spots in the stage should be highlighted to
try to bring it across the finish line.
Speaker 7 (48:08):
But is the infrastructure there, the.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
Door knocking, the ads on TV, I mean, you know
what are you seeing in terms of that?
Speaker 9 (48:17):
Well, the ads on TV are just the market is
absolutely saturated. And it's particularly tough to run ads in
Pennsylvania running a state wide campaign because there are five
different media markets, whether it's Philadelphia, scrant and York, Pittsburgh, eerie,
unbelievably expensive. But yeah, there's a political ad on TV
every couple of seconds here. But the ground game for
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President Trump is really, really, really strong. And again, by contrast,
look at Kamala Harris. You don't get the teams to endorsement,
you don't get the the endorsement of the National Firefighters Union. Now, yeah,
that might be a political hit optically for Kamala Harris,
but when they don't endorse, you don't get their infrastructure,
you don't get their door knocking, you don't get their
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ballot chasing, you don't get union organization. And that's gonna
hurt her in Pennsylvania. And again you see that in play,
you see that playing out in the polls.
Speaker 7 (49:06):
Right.
Speaker 9 (49:06):
So not only are people inclined to I think vote
for Trump because they're they're hurting where like on kitchen
table issues in their pocketbooks. But Kamala is not going
to have the ground game that old scrant And Joe
from Pennsylvania had.
Speaker 7 (49:20):
And you know that's another thing. You know, at the
top of the ticket.
Speaker 9 (49:22):
You know, most people in Pennsylvania that aren't tethered to
politics every day are looking at Scranton Joe and saying, hey,
he's one of us. Old moderate Joe Biden, you know,
works across the aisle. Kamala Harris is not Joe Biden
in that regard, and so she's got all sorts of
problems in Pennsylvania. I think it's pretty clear now that
Kamala has a Pennsylvania problem. But I say all that
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to say, we've got a campaign, like we're ten points down.
We got to sprint across the finish. I mean, all
of these things are good, but we're in the execution
phase of this election operation and we got to close
the deal. We got to get the ball across the
goal line.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Sean, you making a football analogy, and this is where
Buck has said for some time, I automatically trust college
football fans more, NFL fans more. If you like football,
I figure out you can't be that bad of a
guy or gal. I just come back, and I know
I started with you with the Steelers question. I just
come back to what I see on the ground. I
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don't know if you saw me post this, but for
the Georgia Alabama game, the sign said, you know, Georgia
fans love Kamala, and all the Georgia fans on social
media said some insults just cut too deep. They had
a big rally for the College Democrats at the Auburn
Georgia game on the campus in Athens. Nobody shows up
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regular everyday football fans. You see them in Pennsylvania a lot.
They're the backbone. I think of much of that blue
collar mindset. They're not showing up and voting for Kamala Harrison.
And I just think a lot of people are slowly
realizing it. And then her outreach. I mean, Sean, how
many Steeler fans you think listen to call her daddy
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Howard Stern and watch Stephen Colebayer, like, how is she
going to change their mind going to those outlets.
Speaker 7 (51:10):
She's not.
Speaker 9 (51:11):
And you're right, if you go to any sort of
SEC game, you know Trump shows up at Alabama Georgia
and the crowd goes wild for him. And I think
the reason why the crowd goes wild is it people
that are attending those college football games. They're just normal.
They're not politicals like us, right, They're just normal people.
They're really struggling. They look at life three years ago
and said, hey, life was pretty great. Three years ago
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under Trump, it was easier. Life Now it sucks, not
just here domestically, but the world is on fire. And
I just you cannot see Kamala Harris or or Walls
showing up at a college football game and getting nothing
but just NonStop.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
There is It's a great point.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
There isn't a stadium in America where Kamala Harris could
show up and be cheered like Trump is cheered all
over the country at football games.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
It just doesn't exist.
Speaker 9 (52:01):
Yeah, I mean, he's and this is why I say
he's the most I'm obviously a Trump guy, but this
is why I say he's the most electrifying political figure
of my lifetime. And I think there's a political underpinning
to all of this is that the next generation, these
kids that are eighteen to twenty five years old, in
many ways, they've been priced out of the American dream
that was not so three years ago under Trump, when
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you have mortgage interest rates at two point five percent,
where you could graduate from college, get a job working
for maybe forty five fifty grand a year, and afford
to buy your first home and earn your way into
the American dream. These kids today, they don't have that
same opportunity. And we're at risk here in our country,
guys of you know, because every parent wants to say
to their children, Hey, I want my kids to have
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a better life than I did. But we're at a
point in time in this country where that might not
be the case for the first time in a very
long time. And I think these kids are waking up
to it. And I just think they're not going to
be voting for Tim Wallace or Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (52:57):
I think you're everybody, Sean Parnell, go check out Battleground
podcast or the Clay Buck Network.
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How do you listen? You subscribe and you go to.
Speaker 6 (53:04):
The iHeartRadio app, you download that listen there or wherever
you get your podcast. Shawn, thank you so much, man.
Hopefully we'll be having a Pennsylvania victory celebration with you soon.
Speaker 7 (53:14):
Hopefully take care, guys, hope hopefully.
Speaker 6 (53:16):
Otherwise, it's gonna be sad. It's gonna be a sad
day in Pennsylvania for all of us.
This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the Clay,
Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get started. Here are Clay and Bucks.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We are joined now by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin,
who wanted to react to a story that came out
in the Wall Street Journal that said that Democrat Senator
Tammy Baldwin was getting really nervous because she saw Trump
up three in her internal polling, because Eric Covedy, who's
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running to try to replace her, was only down two.
You know the state of a Wisconsin and what it
takes to win senator better than almost anybody. Thanks for
giving us the time. What are you seeing on the
ground and what's likely to be a very close race, Well,
a lot of enthusiasm for President Trump and Eric Covedy
and our Republican canvas up and down the ballot.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Let's face it, when a canadaate releases internal polls that
aren't good, I mean that's a sign of desperation, it's
a cry for help. And so that's a very good sign.
But we take nothing for granted. You know, all these
polls to show big margins in Wisconsin, they're always wrong
because Wisconsin is a very purple state. I would say
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more trending blue quite honestly, when you take a look
at the you know the history of statewide races. But
in this case, I'm believing that it is shifting, primarily
because Republicans now are viewed as the party of the
working men and women of this country. I was at
the Trump rally in Dodge County and I had a
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great conversation with a pretty good group of UAW union
members and they were incredibly enthusiastic. I mean, you know
what going to Trump rallies like, right, I mean you
got yeah, Dan spend a lot of time in line.
It's going to be a eight, nine, ten, twelve hour
day attending and they were happy to do it. So no,
this is you know, if the Cook report has this
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race to toss up. I appreciate you having me on.
Eric Hubday needs your support. Erichobday dot com. Pammy Baldwin's
entire campaign is just a smear, just lying about an
extraordinary individual, a serial entrepreneur has taken his success set
up the Eric hub Day Foundation, which has built shelters
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for trafficked children all around the world, and yet Tammy
Balden rather than run on her record because she has none. All.
Her campaign is just a bunch of livees. Let's face it,
like every other Democrat candidate running for national officer right
now is just a pack of lives. So again, erichobday
dot com. He needs support nationally. This is entirely winnable.
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He needs the resource to refute all the lives.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You have won a couple of races that it came
down to the absolute nitty gritty. Twenty sixteen, I think
they stop spending money on your behalf. You won twenty
twenty two, you won by I think you can correct me,
like twenty five thousand roughly votes. What does in your
mind Trump and Huvedy need to do to win the
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Senate seat and take control of the Senate back, because
make no mistake, that would do it, and also to
win back the presidency. Where is this race to you
likely to be decided?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Ground game? Ground game, ground game. That's always been true.
Democrats have the advantage of being able to mine their
votes in Milwaukee, Madison, a couple other areas. Republicans we
have to mind votes in every little town in Wisconsin.
But that's true. Our advantage because those people in the
rural areas, people that are working smaller factories, they realize
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we are on their side. And so it's all about
ground game. We obviously are pushing early voting. I mean,
listen to your show for those exact same reasons. In Wisconsin,
we could have the miserable day on election day, right,
So we don't want to be ahead on an election day,
and normally we're a few hundred thousand votes behind. We
want to be ahead, and as you've been reinforcing, that
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allows us to concentrate all of our get out to
vote efforts on the low propensity voters who will decide
to see elections. So if you're going to vote anyway,
vote early, get it done. We don't have to waste
our time and resources, you know, calling you up encourage
you to vote. So it's all about ground game.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, and let me reemphasize that too, because look, I'm
in Tennessee. The likelihood that we're going to have some
massive winter storm is low, and so I think some
people don't really pay attention to the weather. But in Nevada,
you know this, the fate of the Senate may well
have been determined by a freak snowstorm that hit in
northern Nevada and drove down turnout. Where you are in Wisconsin,
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the weather can flip in a hurry. Michigan, Pennsylvania, places
where the weather come early November. I mean, you could
speak to it way better than I can. But anybody
who ever watches a Green Bay Packers game has seen
this happen. Suddenly the weather can be bad and people
don't want to don't have the ability or the time
to be in line on election day, right, I mean
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this is so important for everybody.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, and you know Trump's first rally in Green Bay
in April it was miserable. We got three or four
inches of driving sleep. I almost got knocked over from
my walk from the rally to my car. The wins
were so terrible. So no prime example. We have to
get out and we've got to vote early and again
support Eric Hoveday erichoveday dot com because one of the
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things I've been promoting is trip up elections, making sure
that we have as many Republicans on the ball as possible.
Those folks run their campaign, they get their sick, you know,
their second, fifth, and fifteenth cousin out voting for them,
They're gonna vote for people up ball as well. So again,
this is what we've been doing to the Republican Party Wisconsin.
This is what the quite honestly, the large donors in
Wisconsin been promoting the ground game, early voting. So we've
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got the game plan. It's about execution.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
At this point, we're talking to Senator Ron Johnson, who
knows better how to win close elections in Wisconsin than
probably anybody in the country. You heard that internal poll
come out about Tammy Baldwin saying Trump's up three on
Kamala I think you were listening, but the Quinnipiac poll
just just came out having Trump up in Wisconsin. You
say it's a purple state, it's gonna be tight no
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matter what. You saw what happened in sixteen with Trump,
you saw what happened in twenty. How would you compare
the on the ground feeling, which admittedly is anecdotal and
square with what you're seeing in the numbers.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, just compare rallies. You know, I've seen sort of
the you know, they make it look good for Kamala Harris,
but not even close to the number of people that
are coming out for Trump and again it's it's a
real commitment to do that. It's a lot, a lot
of time, a lot of waiting. And you know what's
interesting about those Trump rallies. I don't think people really
understand this. And what is so much fun for people
to attend them is you're talking and you're gathering with
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people who fervently love this country like President Trump does.
I mean, it is a phenomenon. I actually feel sorry
for people who aren't even swing state that don't get
to experience a Trump rally. It is, it is phenomenal.
And you know, again, this is the third year of
a campaign. Here, third campaign the Trump's gone through, and
from my standpoint, the enthusiasm of the Trump rallies is
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as high, it's not higher than it has ever been.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
If people are concerned about election integrity in Wisconsin, what
would you tell them to do? Because I don't know
if you've heard me, Senator, my wife's concerned. She has registered,
she is going to be working the poll at her
local jurisdiction. We get these questions all the time. What
would you tell them they should do in Wisconsin?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Well, volunteer to be election observers. You know, I think
we'll probably have all those shifts filled, but just in case,
we already recruited over five thousand poll workers. Of they've
got to sign up a year ahead of time, but
they've been trained, they get paid, they're the ones actually,
you know, administering the election. So that helped tremendously in
twenty twenty two, where I didn't have to wait till
three four o'clock in the morning because we had put
works in Milwaukee to get the election results in. So
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we've got that. Unfortunately, we have a Democrat governor who
has vetoed all the other election reforms that would have
restored confidence in our election system. So again it's really
all about having eyes on the process and not. My
biggest concern, honestly is illegal immigrants voting. Probably less of
an issue in Wisconsin because we're we're feeling the pain
of the open border, primarily through drug trafficking, but we
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have a migrant population here, and again it's undeniable. We
are seeing illegal immigrants being registered to vote throughout the country,
oftentimes without their knowledge. G how does that happen? So again,
the FBI, all these you know, all these federal officials
are completely ignoring this and President Biden uses his exective
order to order his agencies, his departments to register voters.
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G I'm sure they're doing that a non partisan basis.
So that's my biggest concern is this, these millions of
people coming in here, registering, potentially voting and giving the election.
So to me, that is the biggest problem that I see.
In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
We're talking to Senator Ron Johnson. I want to come
back to you saying that a lot of times Republicans
are having to make up a big deficit because there's
so much early voting. They get out the vote, they harvest,
they do whatever they can. On the Democrat side, do
you think that you're going to see record high early
voting from a Republicans And if so, what sort of
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signs are that are there? And how you said you
can get a lot better targeting. But that means on
election day when Republicans we know we're going to show
up much more. It's just like a sporting event, right,
you don't want to have to make up the biggest
possible deficit.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Well, we've first of all, never had this effort. This,
We've never had. This is our primary mission, our primary
strategy in an election to early vote. So everybody's signed
up for it. You know, the Trump rally, the biggest
banner was vote early. Okay, So no, this is something
we're pushing again. We have to execute on it. Our
repugnants have to you know, follow our directive and get
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out there and do it. But again, people understand what's
at stake. They truly do. They love this country. They're
so concerned about what's happened under Democrat governance. So yeah,
I'm working tirelessly. I know a lot of people are
to actually accomplish this goal.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Outstanding stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Senator, on your way out one more time, What can
people do for Eric Covedy as well?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
He needs resources to refute all the lives Eric Huveday
dot com please flood just campaign with money so he
can again win this this very winnable Senate seat.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Very winnable. Indeed, could put Senator Ron Johnson back in
the majority. Could make a tremendous difference for the country.
Everybody in Wisconsin, listen to us, get out and vote,
Get out and vote early, Take friends and family to
the polls.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Senator, we appreciate you, say, well, take care of thanks.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Look, I mean Ron Johnson knows better than anybody how
to win close races, and I'm telling you he wanted
to come on and he wanted you guys to know.
Eric Covedy can win. And my goodness, if Tammy Baldwin lose,
it is and Donald Trump wins. We are the number
one show in Milwaukee right now. You guys in Wisconsin
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have the ability to deliver the United States Senate and
the presidency to the Republican Party. We just spend an
awesome time with y'all up for the Republican National Convention.
I am telling you the momentum is there. You just
heard me talk about the Quinnipiac polls. Get out and
vote early.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
The weather.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You guys know way better than me that the weather
can flip in a heartbeat. Get your vote banked, and
start working on other people. It came down to twenty
thousand votes in Wisconsin last time. Wisconsin was the closest
of all those states. I'm telling y'all, Kamala can't win
if she loses Wisconsin. The math doesn't math.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
She knows it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
You guys can make this happen. I can feel it.
It's right there.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
If you're listening to twenty the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
We're joined now by man we hope it's the next
next Senator from the state of Pennsylvania, Dave McCormick. He
is running right now against Casey who's been there for
a long time, and he is campaigning in Pittsburgh with
Senator Sullivan of Alaska. And I believe we had Senator
Sullivan on this show recently, so we appreciate him being
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out on the road with you. But Dave, what are
you seeing out there on the road. We know the
momentum for you is through the roof, the amount of
fundraising you've been doing, the crowds, everything else. What are
you seeing in Pennsylvania for your race for Trump and
for the possibility of Pennsylvania as a state that can
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decide not only the presidency but the Senate.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Hey, guys, thanks thanks for having me. You know, I
feel a real momentum shift on the ground, and I
think what happened is Kamala Harris had a sugar high.
But what's happening is Pennsylvania is getting to know Kamala
Harris and they what they're finding out is he is
a San Francisco Liberal with an extreme agenda, and you know,
I think Pennsylvania's maybe the one place where it would
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have been better for the Democrats have Joe Biden, because
Grant and Joe had all these connections to labor and
the Democratic infrastructure. So what you're seeing is, you know,
President Trump is here all the time, he was, did
two rallies yesterday. I think he's got great momentum. He's
turning out the vote. I think people that see Harris
are starting to recognize she's not qualified and is much
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too liberal for Pennsylvania. And then in my race, they
know that Bob Casey is a thirty year career politician.
This is a guy who who, when the bullet starts flying,
ducks his head and has voted for his week. He's
voted for this extreme liberal agenda of Biden Harris ninety
nine percent of the time, and he'll do the same
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with Harris Waltz. So that's why you see this shift.
My pullings all closing. I feel great momentum on the
ground and I think I think we keep this up,
we're gonna win.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
How much are you seeing I mean, I think you're
in a phase here where Democrats generally Dave are a
little cornered and feeling a little desperate in a lot
of places. Klenn Iver was talking beforehand, We're hopeful that
you'll be joining him on this edit. But it looks
like Tim Sheehey, for example, is just blowing out incumbent
Tesla and Montana. So there's some really good trends right now.
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The wind seems to be at the back of top
tier GOP candidates.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Including you.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Looks like you're really close to being able to pull
this out against Casey, which would be the Democrats would
be upset about this one, Dave, which would be great.
The more upset they are, the happier we are. Are
they trying to pull last minute abortion stuff. I'm just wondering,
what is the desperation playbook for Casey in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
I'm not really a Democrat, I'm a Maverick. What are
they doing? I'm just want to be familiar with with
where they are.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Well, the starting point is just you know, they have
more money. I mean, I've raised a lot of money and.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I'm a wealth.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Finance candidate, and I'll be outspent by one hundred million
dollars in Pennsylvania with his attack ads on all sorts
of lies regarding my Pennsylvania roots, my business career, abortion,
just one lie after another. It makes you you just
can't believe the amount of lying. So that's the first
thing they're doing. And then Bob Casey literally doesn't have
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a record to defend because he's been a real failure
as a senator. So ninety percent of his campaign is
about attacking me. But I don't think it's working. And
the reason I don't think it's working is because people
want to know I have leadership that's going to take
him in the right direction. And that's why the polls
are closing. The second thing in the great twist of fate,
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I was with Trump yesterday and I mentioned this to him.
Bob Casey's actually running an ad saying that he worked
with President Trump to put the China tariffs in place.
I mean, it's just so ridiculous. Like I don't think
I've ever met Bob Casey. What's he looked like? I mean,
this is this is absolutely shows you vulnerability. And then
and then Bob Casey's flipping all his positions a good example.
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It may seem small, but in Pennsylvania it's big. Bob
Casey's been opposed to whole milk in schools.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
The farmers hate him.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
The dairy farmers in particular hate him because he's not
been for this. He's sort of bought into Michelle Obama's
ridiculous ideas that we should take whole milk out of schools.
And just last week he flip foffed on this issue.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
He's flip flopped.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
On many issues. He's all of a sudden a strong
supporter of fracking, even though he's been a foe of
fracking in every way. Possibly you can ban fracking well
without ever banning fracking. You just have regulations and red
tape and lawsuits and and don't do anything. And that's
exactly what he's done. So he's he's starting it. He's
starting it to panic and and I think that's right
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where we want him. And you know, I've got a
experience with.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
This in wrestling.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
I know, I wrestled in college. I was the K
cabinet team and Army. I would always know if I
could get into the third period within a point or two,
I'd win, Because the third period is not about wrestling.
It's about mental toughness, it's about heart, it's about staying
in offense. It's about just keeping pressure on this guy,
and he's under pressure. He's never had this before, and
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I think that's why he's wavering.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You absolutely rocked him. I watched the debate. I thought
you did a fantastic job. I'd encourage people to check
it out if they haven't. I'm coming up with you.
I know you've got a billion events between now and then,
but I want our audience to know you and I
are going to be doing an event surrounding the Penn
State Ohio State game on November two, that's the Saturday
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before the election. I think if I've got that date
right and we're going to be in state college.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
There are events, and there are events. This is Clay Travis,
Penn State, Ohio State, a white out, a huge tailgate,
you and I save in America. That's what this is about. No,
this is going to be epic. I'm so glad you're coming,
and it's gonna be fun. We're going to have a
huge turnout and it's going to be three days before
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the election, so this is going to be a big one.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So people out there who are college football fans and
also people who believe that we need to take the
country back. I will be there. I cannot wait. That's
going to be an awful lot of fun. I did
want to ask you associated with that you were at
the Butler rally when Trump was shot July thirteenth. You
mentioned you went to West Point, you were at Army.
You've been around and heard a lot of gunshots over
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the years. What did it feel like to be back
in Butler. What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Well, you know, as you know, that was quite an
experience the first time because I had gone up on
the stage and then President Trump had asked me to
sit back down because you wanted to talk about the border,
and then have me back up later, and the bullis
follows and thereafter this was you know, I have two
reactions to the second Butler Rally. One was you just
feel this enormous sense of both relief but recognition. It's
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a time for strength and the President Trump we saw
on that stage at the first Butler rally shot under fire.
I know Senator Sullivan knows the same thing. When one
hundred people get shot, at ninety nine of them stay down,
and it takes a rare person to stand up and
President Trump stood up on that day and showed a
lot of courage, and I think that's what people want
more than anything Else's strained. Second reaction was I sat
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next to the Compertour family, his widow and his two daughters.
Once twenty eight was twenty four. As you know, Clay,
I have six daughters, and it was just heart wrenching.
I mean, they were so I think, honored to have
their father paid such tribute as an American hero who
threw himself in front of them and saved their lives.
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But it was also just you know, a family that
lost lost dad, lost a husband and seeing it through
their eyes a tribute to their husband, Corey the father,
but also just the sadness of the loss was really
it really it almost hit me much more by being
with them than the first rally did, even though I know,
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you know, we had lost his life, seeing it like
that really really left the mark.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Speaking to Dave McCormick, he's running for a critical Senate
seat in Pennsylvania battleground Pennsylvania the most important state in
this election, it seems, by far, across the board, both
of the presidency and then obviously a very important Senate
battle underway there amazing to hear that you're being out
outspent by, not that he's spending one hundred million dollars,
that you're being outspent by one hundred million dollars. I
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know that the presidential side of this is three hundred
and fifty million. I mean, I don't be the money
being thrown into these media buys has got to be crazy.
Tell me this, though, when you do you come across,
When you come across, I'm sure you do, because you're
out there doing what you do and campaigning and you
know it's it's the absolute sprint part of this campaign, Dave.
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When you come across and undecided, or when someone comes
up to you and says, I like you, but I'm
not sure yet. You know what I mean, I'm sure
you have this. What do they need to know or
what do they want to know that they don't yet
that can push them over the line.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Like, when you come across one of these undecideds, what
are they undecided about at this point?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Well?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I think it's I'm still you know, I'm running against
the dynasty and people ask me about that, and I
say the thing about dynasties is they all had at
some point, And so people who I am so I
talk about three things. I say, Basically, you know the
country's going in the wrong direction, and most people agree
with that. I say, this is a choice between a
seventh generation of Pennsylvania and outsider, a business guy at
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a west point, grab a combat bet against someone who's
been a career politician, who's been weak, and who has
voted for these extreme liberal policies. And then I am
by saying, listen, if you think the status quo is okay,
then you should probably vote for center Casey. You're going
to get more of that. If you think we're in trouble,
do you think we need change, you think we need
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someone who's gonna fight for Pennsylvanian, doesn't know anybody anything
other than Pennsylvanians, then I'm your guy. And that seems
to convince most of those folks on the fence that
they should take a chance on new leadership.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
We're talking to Dave McCormick.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm curious in Pennsylvania political circles Democrat, Republican, Independent, are
there people starting to look around saying what in the
world was Kamma of thinking picking Tim Walls instead of
potentially Josh Shapiro the governor there, because there have to
be you have to come across not only at a
buck's point people who are trying to decide how they're
going to vote, but even Democrats have to be a
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little bit panicked right now with what they're seeing right.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Well, totally Well, i'd say center Sliv and I were
just talking about that. I'd say two things. One, just
as a political matter, I think it was a bad calculus.
I mean, I think governorship he who He and I
have a number of disagreements, but he's a very able
person and he would have been very strong in Pennsylvania,
and he's very very strong nationally in supporting that ticket.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
But I think it says a lot about the Democratic Party.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
I think it's impossible to imagine that the fact that
Governor Shapiro's Jewish didn't factor into her thinking, Yeah, because
she did not want to alienate the extreme elements of
her party. And I think that's really all you need
to know about where that party is and what kind
of decision maker she is that she wouldn't pick someone
who's far more able and far more capable of stepping
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into the presidency than what Governor Waltsh is demonstrating every day,
which is he's just in over his head. This is
not a guy who's ready to assume the mantol of leadership.
And certainly that couple with Kamala Harris, who's proving in
every day with every interview, that she's not capable of
taking the mandol leadership. I think it was a miscalculation
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that showed weakness and moral.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Failure, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Look what in the very end here, Dave, we got
a few weeks, We've got you know, the ballots are
already being filled out, sent in all this stuff in
different states. What can people do? We have a lot
of listeners in Pennsylvania. We could have just taken an
hour of calls, the first hour of people calling in
from Pennsylvania. What can people do to help both push
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you President Trump and other Republicans across the finish line here?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Well, first, when I talk about me and my race,
everything you do for me and other candidates really helps
us up and down the ballots. It's a team sport.
And so I'm so grateful for all the support that
we're getting. And we got to have a big turnout,
and so for you listening, you must vote. You can't
not vote, that's the first thing. But you got to
get other people to vote, people to register, people to
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get out there, people to submit their ballots early, not
take a risk of bad weather that day, and convince
people who are Republicans to get out there, and convince
people that are independents or Demoocrats who aren't you know,
who are on the fence that we need a good,
good leadership to take us forward. I'm a Republican, I'm
a conservative, but I'm running to represent all Pennsylvanians, and
(25:12):
uh we need leadership and change. And these these problems, uh,
the sky high prices, the fentanyl crisis, the war on
fossil fuse, these are these are problems that affect every
single Pennsylvanian and uh so I'm hoping we can get
people listening today to be energized again. Dave MCCORMICKPA dot
com for details about my campaign, my positions, an opportunity
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to volunteer there for people want to volunteer. But we
got it. We got to energize our voters because this
is the most important election of our lifetimes.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com. You just heard it there. I
will be with him in PA in a couple of weeks.
We may need to get you on again before that,
but certainly I look forward to seeing you in State College,
PA for that big game and helping to to also
win back the country.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Keep up the good work.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Thanks guys, Thanks thank for having me.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
You're listening to twenty four the Most Important Tier in
Politics with Clay Travis and Box Sexton.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
We are joined now by Senator Ricketts of the Great
State of Nebraska and Senator I think this is the
first time you've been on with us. Appreciate you making
the time. I want to start with a question that
is extremely local in scope but could have major national residents,
and that is what do you think happens in Omaha?
The one electoral vote there? We got a lot of
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people listening on kfab We love you in Omaha at
a fabulous time at the College World Series.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Great group of people. What are you seeing their?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Senator, how does that shake out not only in the
electoral college but also I think there's a toss up
congressional race there.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
Yeah, absolutely for your listeners may not be aware the
Seon Congressional District in Omaha is also at standalone electoral
College vote because of frankly, a partisan move by Democrats
back in the nineteen nineties to split up our electoral
College votes by congressional district. So if you win the
state overall, you get two electoral college votes, and then
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every congressional district stands alone. You have to win that individually.
And President Trump won this district in twenty sixteen but
lost it in twenty twenty, and so it just shows you,
I mean, in just in general, this district is very
it's like one of the few purple districts left in
the country. It's split very fifty to fifty. So it's
always a tough congressional seat. So Don Bacon, my congressman,
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is always has a tough race. He won it by
two points last time around in twenty two and it's
going to be a tough race again this year for him,
and it's going to be a tough race for President
Trump as well, So it's definitely going to be a challenge.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Senator Ricketts, appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
The Republicans had a chance to change the situation of
the Omaha district and didn't.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Is that correct? And what I mean, what can you
tell us about that?
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Because for a lot of people, it's they have the
power to change it. It was a partisan move when
Democrats did it. Why not set it right and put
it in line with a vast majority of the rest
of states.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Absolutely, Well, that's something that we tried when I was governor.
We attempted to do it every year I was governor,
tried to get a change back to winter take call,
which is what forty eight other states do, and we
always got blocked by the Democrats. So in our one
house legislature, we have a fillbuster rule, so you need
to get thirty three of the forty nine centers to
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pass anything that's controversial, and the Democrats always had enough
votes to be able to block us from getting it
done when I was governor. And sadly it's the same
thing with Governor Pillan. We did have a Democrat reregistered
as a Republican, but he basically changed his party registration.
It's not a philosophy, and so he would not go
along and put out a letter saying he was not
going to vote for winner take Call, and so we
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did not have the thirty three votes we needed to
be able to get that change this year. Something we're
going to have to keep trying and just work.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Wait, that's that's really important, because I haven't heard that
said anywhere. You basically have a stealth Democrat with an
R by his name who is blocking the change to
a winner take all electoral college in Nebraska, and that
sounds like what's going on here, Well, he's.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
Not a stealth Democrat. Everybody knows he's a Democrat.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Well, well, yeah, you guys all know. The rest of
the country, though, is all thinking, wait, a Republican blocked this?
Speaker 8 (29:29):
Yeah, okay, well from that stan point, Yeah, but he
just reregisters al you as a Republican this year. So
it was not like a you know, he did this
a while ago. And when I was governor, for example,
I served with him, he was in the legislature, and
he was always a Democrat when I was there, So
again it was not shocking. We made a run at him,
try to get him to go along with it, but
as I said, he'd like changed his party registration, but
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not a philosophy.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Okay, so let's go in.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
We also have a big Senate race and for people
who may not be paying a lot of attention. I
know a lot of our audience is. But in Nebraska
you can speak to this.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You know the.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Difference between being the majority and the minority, huge difference.
West Virginia is going to flip. Thank you West Virginians. Ohio.
Bernie Marino is looking like he has a really good
chance of beating Sharad Brown. Tim Shah, who we've had
on the show quite a lot, is looking very good
to beat. John Tester got competitive races in Pennsylvania, Michigan,
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and Wisconsin that could be going our way. What about Nebraska?
What do people need to know there? And what is
the difference between my majority and minority from your perspective?
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Yeah, so I am actually in cycled. So my story
is that I was governor from twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty three, and then Ben SaaS stepped down as our
junior senator, and Governor Pillen appointed me to the position.
So I'm running in a special election this year to
be able to finish out the last two years of
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Ben Sasa's term, and then would have to run again
in twenty twenty six for a six year term, and
then the regular cycle deb Fisher is up for election,
so we actually have both our Senate seats are up
in Nebraska this year, Okay, and dev has a tough
race because she's running against an independent who has got
Sorow's money behind her. He's out spending her on TV
two to one, and all the public polling I've seen
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shows that they're pretty much in a dead heat right now.
So we got to work to get the word out
to all Republicans say, hey, you got to vote for
deb Fisher. This guy, Dan Osborne is an independent, but
he's really a Democrat. He's getting you know, Acblue is
behind him. He was in Hollywood last week raising money.
I mentioned the Soro's money already. I mean, this is
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the profile of a Democrat, right and he's gonna even
though he hasn't said, I'm quite certain he's going to
caut us with the Democrats. So to your point about
getting control of the Senate, it would make it that
much harder if dan Osmann were to win. So we
need deb Fisher within and she just has to get
out there. We need to get Republicans on board. We
need to get republic to you know, come back to
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the Republican party, And remember that Deb is the conservative
Republican in this race, not Dan Osborne. He may have
some nice slick commercials where he talks about being independent,
but at the end of the day, we need to
make sure that we're taking control of the Senate for
two reasons. One either to God forbid Harris gets elected,
be a firewall against the crazy things she's going to
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want to do. Or in the case that we get
President Trump elected, we need to move fast to be
able to work on his agenda and quickly undo all
the damage that Biden Harris administration is done and do
things like get the twenty seventeen tax cuts, you know,
reupt and we need to make sure we'll get his
people confirm, you know, get his cabinet members in. So
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this is a big deal and Republicans of Nebraska really
need to, you know, make sure that they're voting for
Deb Fisher and turn out and vote because this is
this is an important part of the election.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Speaking of the Senator Ricketts of Nebraska, Senator, this is fascinating.
You know, we have seen very much coverage at all
of what's going on here in the Senate races that
you've been You've been talking about. And I got to say,
is this is this one of these moments where the
national level GOP and even more right leading media just
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a little little uh asleep at the wheel on this one.
It sounds like you got Sorow, a Soros back Democrat
pretending to be an independent, trying to steal what should
be a very winnable Senate seed. I mean, that's that's
something we got to raise the alarm over.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Yeah. Absolutely, it's something that we certainly has kind of
actually come upon us relatively quickly, like within the last
six weeks or so, because that's because that's when Osma's
been dumping money in the race. I mean he's out
spending Depth two to one, and we always get outspent
on the air, right in most of these competitive races,
Democrats always have more money. I mean, this is a
party of the rich elites, so they're getting all the
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sorrows money and you know, Tom Steyer and everybody else.
And in this case, you know, the thing to remember
about Nebraska is we're also very populist and we've had
that history here for one hundred years. So when somebody
comes along and he's got the nice slick ad and
says he's an independent that does appeal to Nebraskans. And
that's why we've got to remind, especially our conservative Republicans,
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that you can't be fooled by this guy's ads. We
need to vote for the conservative Republican and that is
Deubb Fisher. It's not going to be the other guy.
And of course the osmoren Nane is very popular here
in Nebraska because Tom Osborne, you know, got us some
national championship back in the nineteen nineties in football.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
But this is the guy that's not related.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
It's not anybody related.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
That's actually super important.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Again, it goes to me trusting college football fans more
than anyone. You guys are having a little bit of
a resurgence with the Nebraska Cornhusker program.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Big game coming up soon.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I think you're what five and one or four and one,
only one loss to Illinois one.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
Yeah, we're five and one actually looking pretty good at
the Big Ten right now, and we got Indiana coming
up in a couple of weeks, so that's gonna be
a big game. We win that game, then will be
bowled for the first time in a long time. So
we're really excited.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
This year, all of that rolling together. So again, like
just to kind of bring it home, you've got people
who are not actually in the best interest of the
country trying basically, i'll say it, to steal a race
that would not be winnable if this guy were running
as a Democrat, because I think you would acknowledge and
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probably recognize too, the Democrat brand in the heartland is
really toxic. So they're trying to do this sneakily by
running this guy as an independent. I think that's important
for Nebraskans to know.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
That is important for Nebraska's to know. In fact, the
Democrats have said this that they think the way to
win in red states is by running an independent, and
they're trying it here in Nebraska. And what we have
to do is show them, no, this is a bad idea.
You're not actually going to be able to win in
states like Nebraska because we actually are conservative. And to
your point, the Democrats have gone so far left. If
you look back in the nineteen nineties here in Nebraska,
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all of our state would elected offices. We're actually Democrats. Yeah,
and the Democrats have gone so far left with the
things they're doing. You know, they want abortion up until
the moment of birth. That's what this guy is running against,
my congressman, you know, is doing. He wants abortion up
in the moment birth, won't say when he would cut
off abortion. They're just crazy radical on that. And we
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know all the like boys playing girls sports. And of
course the spending is just out of control, the weakness
they show on the international stage, inflation, the open southern border,
I mean, all these things that Democrats are doing are
just not what Nebraskans want. And that's what you're going
to get with Dan Osborne if you if you vote
for him, that you're going to get high prices and
open borders, which is what this administration has been all about.
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You know, Harris has been all about this open border,
high prices, like, don't vote for more of that with
this guy who's exciting independent, is really a Democrat.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
No doubt, then, Senator, we appreciate it, and good luck
to the corn Huskers getting Bowl eligible and fighting their
way potentially into some big ten competent. A lot of
fun to watch them resurging. But remember this is not
Tom Osborne's relative, this is not your daddy's Nebraska Cornhusker connection.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Thank you for the time.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
Great, thanks a lot, appreiate it, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
I know I've been very impressed by the corn Husker defense.
Clay also the offense.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Very good.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
You're wearing your red because you knew we were talking
to Nebraska Cornhusker fans today. It was particular with that's
I think the first visit from from a senator from
Nebraska on the program.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So we'll do whatever we can to help.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
I know that Senate race issue that have you heard
that honestly talked about on any shows anywhere? Trying to
hide a seat playing site. That's exactly they're They're doing
it quietly because that's how they know they could pull
it off, because there's no way that a Republican shouldn't
win a Senate seat statewide race in Nebraska. Well, you
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know they're very sneaky. Soros money in there, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Be careful again, just ask the question, who are you
going to caucus with independence? In states like Nebraska, they
run as independence. Is what Joe Manchin did, This is
what Kirsten Cinema did. They eventually said, oh, I'm an independent,
but they continue to caucus with the Democrats. Well, an
independent who caucuses with the Democrat is a Democrat. Don't
let them hide from you what they are trying to
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sneak by. Again, we got the huge audience in Kfab
listening to us right now in Omaha. That electoral college
seat matters potentially a great deal, that is that one
electoral vote. But my goodness, just pay attention to what
they're trying to it's a fast one that they're trying
to slip past you there.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
If you're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact
with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
We are joined now by Sean Parnell, who was at
the massive Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania that ended July
thirteenth with a assassination attempt. Trump went back, had an
unbelievable crowd. Now get to that in a second, But first, Sean,
have you recovered from Dak Prescott's late touchdown pass last
night to beat your beloved Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 9 (39:11):
You know, I knew you were gonna lead off with
a question like that, and I'll tell you it was
a rough night here in Fort Parnell, because not only
did the Steelers fall to three and two, backsliding two
straight losses with Justin Fields at quarterback. But the Impeachables
my fantasy team unless Kareem Hunt comes off the bench
tonight for Monday Night Football and turns in a fifty
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point game. Yes, it looks like the Impeachables are going
to fall to three and two as well. Not good,
not good.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I'm in a tough spot in my fantasy league as well.
Anita some miracles to fight and I'm gonna fall to
three and two also. But let me get okay, that
is out there. Sorry for all the Steelers fans out there,
I had to hear about that. But let's go to
the rally itself. I believe you spoke there. What was
the what was the environment like? What did it feel like?
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Take us for those of us who were not there,
which the vast majority of listeners into that experience.
Speaker 9 (40:08):
Well, I have to say it was. It was crazy
and it was surreal to be back there. I did
a walk through the night before and I'll tell you
and for all the listeners, the setup was a little
bit different. But President Trump was absolutely insistent on that
stage being in the exact same location, and I think
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that's because he wanted to send a message to the
people of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that we're not finished yet.
He wanted to make good on his commitment to them,
but he also wanted to send a message to our enemies,
you know, both here and abroad, that as Americans, we
don't bend the need to fear, we don't bend the
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need to tyranny, and come hell or high water. President
Trump was standing on that stage and finishing what he started,
and I have to say I have a ton of
respect for that man for doing it, because you know,
I wasn't crazy, and I know my wife wasn't crazy
about going back to that place, but we felt like
we had to go back there because we had a
duty to go there, and President Trump clearly felt the
same way.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Sewn. I always appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Battleground Live podcast is on the Clay and Buck feed
for everybody listening. And also we're gonna have Sean filling
in on this show around Thanksgiving time, So Sean, you're
going to be in charge for all three hours at
the con.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
My friend, it's going to be exciting.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
In the meantime, What were some of the biggest takeaways
from just that day and also President Trump's speech and
and all of all of which you were able to
gather together. I mean a lot of us weren't able
to be there. So what what what did you walk
away thinking and feeling?
Speaker 7 (41:48):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 9 (41:49):
It was absolutely exhilarating on so many levels because it
was just one historic moment after the next.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
You know, I'm sitting there in the crowd and I hear, you.
Speaker 9 (42:00):
Know, God blessed the USA, right the Trump the song
that Lee Greenwood song that Trump walks out to, and
I'm thinking, dang, this sounds really good. And Lee Greenwood
walks out on stage ten feet in front of me.
He's saluting Trump, and I'm like, dang, this guy knows
how to entertain. And of course, much of what Trump
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talked about, especially in the early phases of his speech,
was Corey Coppertore's family and the other folks in the
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania who were wounded, and He's got this opera
singer coming out and everything else. And then there was
a woman at one point Buck and Clay up in
the stands who had a medical emergency. President Trump stopped
his speech in the middle of that, and then one
hundred thousand people spur of the moment started singing the
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Star Spangled Banner. It was just it was just an
unbelievably powerful moment and a powerful night on so many levels.
And again, not just a testament to President Trump's toughness,
but a testament to the character of the people of
Commonwealth of Pencil Venue who also wanted to show up
that day to send a message that we're not afraid
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and you know, we're going to be heard. And it
was just I have to tell you both, it was
amazing to be on that stage and look out over
what was definitely one hundred thousand people and like, look,
I was on stage with President Trump five days before
the November twenty twenty election in Butler County almost at
the same location, sixty five thousand people there. This was
this was different. There was something in the air that
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was special.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
And it just leads me.
Speaker 9 (43:29):
To feel real, real good about the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
in this election cycle.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Okay, let's dive into that, because you know Pennsylvania really well.
We're talking to Sean Parnell. Encourage you to listen to
his podcast as part of the Clay and Buck podcast
and Network twenty sixteen. It was an earthquake that Trump
won Pennsylvania in the political class twenty twenty, they pulled
out all the stops to try to find a way
to win it back. The absentee ballot request were through
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the roof. In terms of data, what I have seen,
Sean is that the enthusiasm for Democrats when it comes
to absentee ballot request nowhere near.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
What it was in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
And for people out there who say, well, there's not
a COVID going on, people are going to vote in
person more Republicans have actually had similar numbers when it
comes to absentee ballot requests in both twenty twenty and
twenty twenty four. So that would cut against that argument.
What are you seeing on the ground, what do you feel,
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and what from a data perspective does the math look
like to you?
Speaker 9 (44:37):
Yeah? Okay, So first of all, I've said here on
this show before that Pennsylvania is a state that closes
late and closes fast, and now you're seeing that play out. Well,
so what does that really mean? Well, look, Democrats can
win this state without a single Republican vote. Now we've
closed the voter registration deficit in Pennsylvania, by over fifty percent,
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six hundred and fifty thousand plus more Democrats in twenty
twenty then there were Republicans. That number is now three
hundred and twenty five thousand more Democrats than Republicans. Still
a big number, right, But the point is is that
we are we are. In order for Republicans to win
this state, you've got to win moderate Democrats, and you've
got to sway independence. Every single pole that I've seen,
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not just between Trump and Harris and Pennsylvania, but especially
between McCormick and Casey, has shown probably two months ago
McCormick down anywhere between seven and ten points in Pennsylvania
will now in almost every single pole they're tied. And
that tells me that moderate Democrats and independents are breaking Republicans.
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So the state is closing lateness, closing fast as it
typically does. Another thing that I need people to pay
attention to is look at the counties of Erie, Pennsylvania,
which is in the northwest of Pennsylvania, and Northampton, which
is in the northeast of Pennsylvania. Those are two blue
collar union Democrat counties. They are the bell weather of
the state of Pennsylvania, and President Trump is up in
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these two Bellweather counties on not just the top line polling,
but on all of the issues. From the border, he's
up fifteen. On inflation, he's up seven. On the economy
in general, he's up six. So issue after issue after
issue in these blue collar union Democrat counties are breaking Trump.
And again you see that play out in the polls
as well. Clay as well, Buck with Kamala just is suffering.
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She is hemorrhaging men right. And I cannot see for
the life of me, a blue collar union Democrat, somebody
who's worked with their hands their entire life in either
of those counties saying yeah, I'm gonna vote for Kamala Harris.
It's just not gonna happen. And last point I'll make
about the data. You look at the current mail in
request data. Democrats nine hundred and forty five thousand mail
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in ballot requests, Republicans four hundred and nineteen thousand, Independents
one hundred and sixty one hundred and seventy six thousand.
Now in twenty twenty, Republicans had six hundred and sixty
eight thousand requests five hundred and twenty four thousand returns
Democrat Democrats one point six at one point five million returns.
So in twenty twenty we lost the vote by mail
by nearly one million. But we're actually doing a lot
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better than we were in twenty twenty because let's say
of those one hundred and seventy six thousand independents who
have requested a mail in ballot, let's say forty percent
of them break our way, we are going to be
well over five hundred thousand ballots requested in twenty twenty four,
which is more than we had in twenty twenty. And Democrats,
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by contrast, they need that floor of twenty twenty mail
in ballots to be successful in that state, and they are.
They're not there yet, and at nine hundred and forty
five thousand they got to get to one point five
million returns. That the clock is ticking, guys, and I
just don't think that there's enough time for them to
make it up.
Speaker 6 (47:55):
Sean, what the ground game that Trump has, how is
it looking? How is it in these final weeks? And
you know you're telling you you're giving us a sense
of what spots in the stage should be highlighted to
try to bring it across the finish line.
Speaker 7 (48:08):
But is the infrastructure there, the.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
Door knocking, the ads on TV, I mean, you know
what are you seeing in terms of that?
Speaker 9 (48:17):
Well, the ads on TV are just the market is
absolutely saturated. And it's particularly tough to run ads in
Pennsylvania running a state wide campaign because there are five
different media markets, whether it's Philadelphia, scrant and York, Pittsburgh, eerie,
unbelievably expensive. But yeah, there's a political ad on TV
every couple of seconds here. But the ground game for
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President Trump is really, really, really strong. And again, by contrast,
look at Kamala Harris. You don't get the teams to endorsement,
you don't get the the endorsement of the National Firefighters Union. Now, yeah,
that might be a political hit optically for Kamala Harris,
but when they don't endorse, you don't get their infrastructure,
you don't get their door knocking, you don't get their
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ballot chasing, you don't get union organization. And that's gonna
hurt her in Pennsylvania. And again you see that in play,
you see that playing out in the polls.
Speaker 7 (49:06):
Right.
Speaker 9 (49:06):
So not only are people inclined to I think vote
for Trump because they're they're hurting where like on kitchen
table issues in their pocketbooks. But Kamala is not going
to have the ground game that old scrant And Joe
from Pennsylvania had.
Speaker 7 (49:20):
And you know that's another thing. You know, at the
top of the ticket.
Speaker 9 (49:22):
You know, most people in Pennsylvania that aren't tethered to
politics every day are looking at Scranton Joe and saying, hey,
he's one of us. Old moderate Joe Biden, you know,
works across the aisle. Kamala Harris is not Joe Biden
in that regard, and so she's got all sorts of
problems in Pennsylvania. I think it's pretty clear now that
Kamala has a Pennsylvania problem. But I say all that
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to say, we've got a campaign, like we're ten points down.
We got to sprint across the finish. I mean, all
of these things are good, but we're in the execution
phase of this election operation and we got to close
the deal. We got to get the ball across the
goal line.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Sean, you making a football analogy, and this is where
Buck has said for some time, I automatically trust college
football fans more, NFL fans more. If you like football,
I figure out you can't be that bad of a
guy or gal. I just come back, and I know
I started with you with the Steelers question. I just
come back to what I see on the ground. I
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don't know if you saw me post this, but for
the Georgia Alabama game, the sign said, you know, Georgia
fans love Kamala, and all the Georgia fans on social
media said some insults just cut too deep. They had
a big rally for the College Democrats at the Auburn
Georgia game on the campus in Athens. Nobody shows up
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regular everyday football fans. You see them in Pennsylvania a lot.
They're the backbone. I think of much of that blue
collar mindset. They're not showing up and voting for Kamala Harrison.
And I just think a lot of people are slowly
realizing it. And then her outreach. I mean, Sean, how
many Steeler fans you think listen to call her daddy
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Howard Stern and watch Stephen Colebayer, like, how is she
going to change their mind going to those outlets.
Speaker 7 (51:10):
She's not.
Speaker 9 (51:11):
And you're right, if you go to any sort of
SEC game, you know Trump shows up at Alabama Georgia
and the crowd goes wild for him. And I think
the reason why the crowd goes wild is it people
that are attending those college football games. They're just normal.
They're not politicals like us, right, They're just normal people.
They're really struggling. They look at life three years ago
and said, hey, life was pretty great. Three years ago
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under Trump, it was easier. Life Now it sucks, not
just here domestically, but the world is on fire. And
I just you cannot see Kamala Harris or or Walls
showing up at a college football game and getting nothing
but just NonStop.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
There is It's a great point.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
There isn't a stadium in America where Kamala Harris could
show up and be cheered like Trump is cheered all
over the country at football games.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
It just doesn't exist.
Speaker 9 (52:01):
Yeah, I mean, he's and this is why I say
he's the most I'm obviously a Trump guy, but this
is why I say he's the most electrifying political figure
of my lifetime. And I think there's a political underpinning
to all of this is that the next generation, these
kids that are eighteen to twenty five years old, in
many ways, they've been priced out of the American dream
that was not so three years ago under Trump, when
(52:22):
you have mortgage interest rates at two point five percent,
where you could graduate from college, get a job working
for maybe forty five fifty grand a year, and afford
to buy your first home and earn your way into
the American dream. These kids today, they don't have that
same opportunity. And we're at risk here in our country,
guys of you know, because every parent wants to say
to their children, Hey, I want my kids to have
(52:42):
a better life than I did. But we're at a
point in time in this country where that might not
be the case for the first time in a very
long time. And I think these kids are waking up
to it. And I just think they're not going to
be voting for Tim Wallace or Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (52:57):
I think you're everybody, Sean Parnell, go check out Battleground
podcast or the Clay Buck Network.
Speaker 7 (53:02):
How do you listen? You subscribe and you go to.
Speaker 6 (53:04):
The iHeartRadio app, you download that listen there or wherever
you get your podcast. Shawn, thank you so much, man.
Hopefully we'll be having a Pennsylvania victory celebration with you soon.
Speaker 7 (53:14):
Hopefully take care, guys, hope hopefully.
Speaker 6 (53:16):
Otherwise, it's gonna be sad. It's gonna be a sad
day in Pennsylvania for all of us.
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