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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to After Hours with producer Alli.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And producer Greg.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Welcome back, Yes, and just to bring people up to
speed about what after Hours is. It kind of like
an easter egg to be found from time to time.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You never know when it's going to show up.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I would say things that people want to know about
going on behind the scenes of the Clay and Buck show.
We get emails, talkbacks and questions what do you do
in this case or how do you guys do that?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
So we thought we.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Would answer a question that came up recently having to
do with getting sick.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
What happens when Clay and Buck come down with the
stomach flu for instance, or a fever and can't do
the show.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
And how do we manage to steer the ship behind
the scenes with a limited staff, because after all, we
are not AI, we are humans and we have to
do some very human jobs.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
There's a little bit of chaos this week. Can only
imagine what you were going through because I was a
little bit removed from it. You were dealing with it.
What was going on, and Buck was sick and Clay
was going on vacation, and it was.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
A perfect storm of events. I will say, though, kudos
to Buck, he really did not want to have Clay
miss the first day of his vacation. Clay was more
than willing to set it back one day so that
he could fill in for Buck while he was on
the bathroom floor in the fetal position, and I was
scrambling because Clay had already left for his vacation down
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to Orlando, Florida, So I was scrambling trying to set
up a studio for Clay to run on over to
to broadcast the show. So I do want to give
a quick shout out to WFLFAM and Orlando. Rick Ken
and Frank were so cool about the last minute request
accommodating and they were going to be there to help
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Clay get the show on the air if Buck was
not able to host.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Kudos to Clay too for being willing to step up
in that case as well and say, Okay, we're going
to be on vacation and I'm going to send the
kids off to the park or whatever, and I'm willing
to come in for the you know, three hours a
little bit plus so he could do some show prep
and cover. I thought that that was really selfless of
him to be able to.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Do that yeah, we are a really great team here,
and everyone has everyone else's back or behind. We actually
had speaking of an emergency four minute clip and case
Buck had to pull the rip chord, so to speak,
and run to the bathroom. And that's why having a
home studio is so convenient, because imagine if he was
here in the studio, the bathroom's like half a mile away,
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it really is.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, no, he'd be He never would have made it.
And yeah we did. We had that ready to go,
and you called it something really disgusting, and I just said,
you know, I don't even remember what you call.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
The VD clip. Oh wait, that sounds even worse. It
stands for the things that happen when you're sick.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
A very disgusting clip.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Oh, actually that's.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Even better, the very disgusting clip.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Four minutes of filler hoping that nobody would be the
one if Buck had to pull the ripcord in make
a break for it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Exactly, And we didn't need it, fortunately.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
But all of this got us thinking about times in
the past where people have called and said, we remembered
Buck's great story of the first time he filled in
for Rush Limbaugh as a guest host at the time
you and I were working with Rush.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
That's right, I met Buck.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I had no idea he was as sick as he
was that very first day. So to hear him retell
that story kind of cool to hear from my perspective.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I had no idea either. I wasn't really even aware.
We were just doing our jobs and living our lives
and whatever. And only later did I find out, Oh
my god, that poor guy who was on the air,
who we didn't know who he was at that point,
this more Cia guy.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It's a fun story that kind of feels like the
plot line and so many movies where the protagonist is
up against all odds. Everything is going wrong, there's one
hurdle after another, and just when you think there's no hope,
a miracle happens. One of our listeners, Steve, actually sent
in a talkback message remembering that fateful day and wanted
to know more about it. Little does he know, just
(04:06):
went on into getting Buck on the air.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Take a listen, Hey guys, this is Steve from Pittsburgh, PA,
listening via whlo Am six forty a acron got a
question for you, Buck. It was eleven years ago today
that you made your debut behind the Golden Eib. Micropote
would like and it was good. Friday too, would like
to know your thoughts recollections from that day, How did
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it come about? Anything like that you might want to
share to us with us and be really interesting. Thanks guys.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
First of all, play incredible memory from this guy. He
is not a cousin or an uncle of mine. I
did not put him up to this. I know that's
a pretty wild recall. This guy's got.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
It's ridiculous love affair here that he would remember. But
credit to him eleven years ago. Eleven eleven years not
even like it was ten or five. It's like, you know,
eleven's kind of a no fence to anybody celebrating their
eleventh wedding anniversary. But usually it's not like, oh my goodness,
but yes, this is impressive.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
So Steve, I have Yes, it was eleven years ago.
I sat at the Golden EIB Mike a young buck
thirty Gosh, how old am I? Thirty two years old?
I was either the youngest or maybe Hannity, I don't know, guys.
We got to check on this was Hannity the youngest
to Everest did the EIB Mike at that time or
is it me? I think we're within a year of
each other. So I don't know who gets the uh
who gets the youngest title? But you want to know
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what it was like, I'll tell you about what it
was like. First of all, the team pulled this when
they saw this talkback, they pulled this up. This was
I don't even know what this is going to sound like,
but well, let's just say here's what it was like
years ago. Cut twenty five. Filling in for Rush and
no filling in for Rush Limbaugh.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
He's a national security editor for the Blaze of Farmers
CIA officer who served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's
also worked as a counter terrorism specialist for the New
York Police Department. Ladies and Gentlemen, here's buck Sexton.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Buck Sexton here filling in for Rush Limbaugh today. I'm
also just to bring you up to speed the national
security editor of the Blaze dot com. I'm fighting a
tiny bit of a cold, but couldn't pass up this
opportunity to have a chance to speak to all of you.
Oh so young, I'm so incredibly young. I was, I
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was very young, but beyond that, so this is you
asked what it was like fast forward. I gave Russia's
team reached out. I had filled in for Glenn Clay.
I had filled in for hold.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
On one joke, before you tell your serious story, producer
Greg says a cold.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
He sounds like he's going through puberty. Uh so, wow,
producer Greg at two Greg, right right after the Rangers game.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Greg, really really? Oh, I see how it all right?
Now you can tell your serious story. But I wanted
to let Greg deliver a shot across the bow to start.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
So well, let me let me just say this. This
is a this is all true. And if my mom's listening,
she's gonna have flashbacks because I had been at the
Blaze only for a couple of years at this point.
I'd filled in for Glenn, and then I filled in
for Sean Hannity and then Rush's team. Sure enough, they
said we're gonna let you sit at the at the
Golden Mic. And I was, you know, this was a
huge break in my career. I was incredibly excited, and
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I came down the week of it. I came down
with a cold, and I remember thinking, Okay, this will
be fine because I'll the cold will be bad on
the Monday Tuesday, but by Friday I should be okay.
What I didn't realize is that sometimes if you're going
to get leeryngitis, it happens toward the end of the cold,
or rather you know, mid to end of the cold,
because your vocal chords get so inflamed and dried out
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from the virus clay. The day before I had that show,
I had the only time in my life this has
happened to me. I could not speak at all. I
had no voice whatsoever. And that sounds obviously like I'm
gonna wimp out of this, So I can't. I don't
know what I'm gonna do. So I'm scrambling, I'm drinking tea,
I'm doing all this sort of stuff. And God bless her.
(08:04):
I call my mom, I say, Mom, I got a
fill in for rush tomorrow. Oh, by the way, I
was like, ah, that, I mean, I had nothing, no voice, nothing.
And she finds she's just scrambling. We're doing online research.
She finds somebody who is the person the doctor in
New York who opera singers go to when it's opera night,
and they have and there's something that she can do
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and so my mom and this is all my mom
I gotta say. My mom calls this doctor who says,
I'm not open tomorrow. I'm going to the Hamptons. My
mom says, my son is filling in for the biggest
radio show in the country. I guess in the world.
I don't know if there's a bigger show in China,
but you know, bigger show in the world. Can you
please just help him, like whatever you can do. She goes,
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all right, the day of I go in there, and
I go in there ten o'clock in the morning. She
looks at my vocal cords. It's doctor Coravin. She looks
at my vocal cords, Clay, and she goes, you are cooked.
There is no chance you're going to be able to
do this show. The only option is I'm going to
give you a steroid shot. The steroid shot will bring
the inflammation of your vocal cords down, but it will
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only last three to four hours. Oh wow. So it's
like ten thirty in the morning the day of the show.
And you know, she didn't she didn't know. She didn't
know I was doing the show. She didn't know what time.
I'm like, that actually will work? Can you give me
the shot late? How can we do it? And so
that I started out that show, I said I had
a bit of a cold. I was shaking that my
voice the whole time was going to just disappear and
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I would sound like a huge, a huge wimp. And
at the by the end of the show, by the way,
the voice was pretty much gone. And that night I
couldn't speak again. So that was the whole if you're wondering,
and for days at the anxiety level, for days afterwards,
I was just like shaking it home, like, oh my god,
I was so scared my voice was going to go.
But it went well enough they had me back and.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Now here we are, okay, So I want to give
So first of all, that's great. The doctor was there
and she was willing to do this. Did your mom
think on the spot about the idea of opera singers
and how they were treated?
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I actually am curious house.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
I mean, that's a brilliant idea that she would have had,
because we make a living based on being able to talk.
But I wouldn't even have thought. I mean, first of all,
and you're in New York City, I know in Nashville,
I would have been totally in trouble because.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
My mom loves you know, my mom was she was
in the near She was in a ballet at the
American Ballet Theater, and so she loves classical music and
she has friends in the opera in New York and everything,
so she knows that world a bit. But it was
totally her idea, And this is what even thought about it.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
That's Mom saving the day.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Totally saved the day. And the doctor. The doctor looked
at me, she was like, she's like, your vote you have.
She actually said, if I tried to push through without
the steroid, you can do permanent damage because you can
create scar tissue because of all the inflammation in your
vocal box. So this was just at all, all the
stars alive. But people ask, yeah, my eleven day. I
have never been nervous doing anything in media in my
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life before or since. That was the only time and
by far the biggest time I was ever nervous. Yes,
being by behind the Golden eib Mike when you Rush
was having his six hundred and eighty stations or whatever
it was. But Clay the whole time I come back
from break, I was like, I can still talk Okay,
we got one more segment. We got one more segment.
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I told the team, Dude, Ali, you remember you were there,
so was Mike.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I do remember, and I remember meeting you that day.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Buck, I would have had no idea you were cool
as a cucumber.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
I was shaken like a leaf. I was shaking like
a leaf. So yeah, that was I mean, Clay, you're
the same. I can tell you the same thing. Even
when the first time I did TV, like the first
time I was on Cable News, I was like, I
was Cia baby, cool as a cucumber, Like this isn't
gonna phase me. This was when I was like, oh
my god, oh my god, oh my god. So I
remember it, trust me eleven years ago in Mom you
are the greatest mom, but also a genius on the spot.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
I mean, that's what I'm saying, Like, even to think, Okay,
who would be able to treat this, who would be
able to figure out a way to make this happened?
Because this is always an issue for singers, right I know.
I think I came on the air and talked about
the fact that I went to watch Adele and some
of you were like, well, no, it was incredible right,
she was amazing in Caesar's, but then she's had to
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cancel a ton of her performances because of vocal fold
related issues. And obviously, when you are an incredible talent
like that, something as as simple as a cold can
throw everything into an uproar. So I wouldn't have even
thought about that. But credit to your mom because you
probably got how many doctors like that are there in
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the nation.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Specialize that specialize in this, because most people would just say, look,
you got a cold, like go home from work, like
you know, it's just not don't talk as much. Fine,
it's not a major medical issue unless you make a
living and have a performance of some kind with your voice.
But yeah, I like to tell people on such a
vocal athlete that I had to take steroids performance enhancing
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rugs for my vocals.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
So how long did it take for your voice to
get back to normal after you took the steroid shot
to be able to do the show on.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Two to three days? Two to three days? Still just
like being shot? Oh yeah, horse, you know, sounded totally weird,
but yeah, So when I met Ali and the team
and Mike and Mike, Mike Mamoane was there, Mike knew.
I was nervous as hell. But anyway, when I was there,
they were there, and that was how it all went.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Greg, I really love your little joke there about Buck
going through puberty.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well did you hear his voice? I mean, he really
sounded so much younger than he does today.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And when was that twenty fourteen?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yes, I think that that sounds about right.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Wow, his voice really does sound different.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
It really, It's so unusual, and it could be there's
a lot of things that go into that. There's processing,
and the microphone itself was different and that sort of
same thing.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Technology changes, Technology.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Changes, so there's a lot of things that could be
going into I'm sure had nothing to do with the
fact that he was, you know, ten years younger than
he or eleven years younger than he is currently. So
it's just so funny how difference that it it does make.
I mean, you know, just as a quick aside, we
have made times there have been times where somebody records
something in a spot, a commercial or that sort of thing,
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and then we've got to go back and correct something
we need to have it from and we've even done
it here on the podcast where we've got to go
back and pull from a different version or re record
something and then drop it in. You have to have
the same mic and the same conditions because otherwise it
doesn't sound the same. It's really, it really makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Now, Greg, just as a personal aside, what has been
your worst day in terms of coming to work and
being sick.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Have you ever had a.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Situation where we might have need to use the VD
clip for you?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
No? Well no, I was never running to the bathroom
like that. But I have come to work sick before. Yeah,
and it's this is pre COVID, so I mean years
and years and years ago.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I know. It's amazing, right when you look back like
you would you would almost be expected to come to
work sick, and and my god, you took a sick day.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Now we're like, if.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You show up with even the slightest sniffle, that you
get any of us sick.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
It's such a different mindset, it's a different world now.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I've literally thrown up in the trash can next to
my desk because I came to work sick.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Oh no, yeah, well I actually had walking pneumonia, so
I was here with pneumonia just do what you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Do you remember what Rush would do when he got sick.
He had a secret in terms of how he would
clear his voice.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Do you remember, I know that he has to do
with something.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
You love, that zycam, that zinc products. He liked having zinc.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
So what do you call it when you have a hack?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Like a little remedy remedy?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yes, his a little remedy he would always use when
his voice wasn't well.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
And he would swore by these these plural.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Cigars. Cigars is the only thing I get.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It involves chocolates, really chocolate donuts. Remember Rush used to
always say chocolate donuts cured him.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I don't remember that. That's see, this is I'm learning
new things. Yeah, just with you too, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, And I'm trying to remember the only time in
the twenty years I worked with him that he actually
didn't make it on the air because he was actually
I don't even know if he was sick. He might
have gotten in traffic or something happened that day and
suddenly Snurdly had to start the show. Remember that you
remember that day? Yeah, all of a sudden we hear
Snurdly and we're like, Oh, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
We were looking at each other in our in our
little alcoholic just trying to figure out what was going
on because we weren't totally up to speed that this
was going to be happening. It was, or we might
have gotten win like a minute before the show started,
that this was going to be happening. It was really unusual.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
And he did start right out of the gate with
a joke just to you know, ease everyone's feelings immediately.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
But it was that was fun for Snurdley.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh yeah, and SNDY could do stuff like that, you know.
And then of course he was quickly off Mike again
because Russia always had a rule that the staff never
had a microphone.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
So yes, and as you're listening to this podcast, you
might be like, well that would be why.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's a good rule.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I think.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Get these two people off the bike.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I think the only other crazy instance at work in
terms of being sick is one time the board operator
I was working with. It was a freelancer. It wasn't
our Mike mamone. It was a freelancer. Was in that
day I think someone had a day off and he
had an event like I thought it was a hard event,
but he suddenly couldn't do anything, and he was pounding
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his chest, and I panicked because he was making you know,
when someone's choking, they make the signal.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
He was basically making the signal, but to his chest.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Oh no.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And I ran into the kitchen and remember Rush used
to have tons of snapple. Oh yeah, he had some
snapple in there. I mean it was expired like ten
years prior, but it was still in the fridge, the
peach snapple. I grabbed that and handed it to him
and it was a blood sugar thing, so he was okay.
But it was one of those moments where I'm like,
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oh my god, what do you do when air traffic
control goes down?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Because that's essentially what the board op.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Is, yeah, exactly, which is what they're finding out what's
going on in Newark. And I don't think peach snapple
can help any of those people in Newark right now.
But that's an amazing story. I don't yeah, I mean
I don't remember that because again, there was no one
else in that control room at that point who probably
knew what buttons to push in a pinch. I mean,
I don't know if Kit was still around, then Kit
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might have been able to do it, but you know,
or maybe Brian down in Florida. But no, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
This reminds me.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
If any of you out there have any stories of
crazy things that happened to you on the job where
you had to either fill in for somebody else's role
and you'd never done it before because of a last minute,
sixth situation, or any kind of crazy work story, send
it into producer Greg and I and we'll collect them all.
You can use the talkback feature and tell us what
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happened to you, or if you're a VIP, you can
send us an email with your tail.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
We love hearing stories.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Like this absolutely and if you send it in, you
never know, it might get on the next podcast, the
next after hours podcast, easter Egg, which just shows up randomly,
just like an Easter egg does. You never know when
it's going to be there.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So, as far as other things that happen behind the
scenes when people are out, what would you say, Greg
has been the most challenging in terms of how big
our staff is and when people are out.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Well, it's funny because I don't want to scare you.
But on the days that you're out. It's it's I
always have a bit of a panic, especially the first day,
just because I know that there's some big shoes to fill.
You There's a lot that you do and I have
to be in and I have to do not only
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do I do my job, and I've got a lot
of help with this. Producer Mark is fantastic with this,
and the guys on the digital team always step up
and help whenever they can as well. But I always
have this tension that in myself that I feel like
I'm gonna let Ali down.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Oh, quite the opposite. And you're about seven feet tall
because you have to wear a million hats that day.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
A little bit of anxiety inducing though, it's definitely some
definitely some stress. What about yourself.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I think the.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Biggest fear I have when we are short staffed is
just managing like octopus arms, Like, how are multitasking all
the different things and making sure it all goes together
smoothly so that people listening will have no idea that
there's mad chaos going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, that's the idea. It's it's we need to remember
that this is you know, at the end of the day.
This is showbiz and we're playing without a net here,
and we need to just make sure that the only
thing that people see or hear in this particular case
is what we're putting out on the stage and not
what's going on behind the curtains, in the rafters and things.
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And as long as the audience doesn't know any better,
then it's a good day. You go home, You go yeah,
it's a miller time. I earned this one, and you
crack a beer and enjoy. That's right, you've burned it.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I will say that sick Buck had an incredible sense
of humor. His text messages had me in stitches some
real stand up comedy material.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'm telling you, this has been fun and we haven't
done this in a while and it's been good to
catch up with you.
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you know, even if your a state is rather modest,
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it's still in a state. You have to make sure
that it's going to where you want it to and
not to the state, because you know, here in New
York where we're producing this, the state will take everything
out of Oh and I've.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Heard horror stories from you know, for close friends of
mine who've unfortunately had a situation in the family and
they weren't prepared. My friend's husband had a heart attack.
It age thirty eight. It was the last thing in
the world they even contemplated having happened.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And she was two.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Weeks away from giving birth to their second child. So
she told me, in hindsight, she really I just should
have had these things in place. I should have had
my affairs in order. It was just at that time
in our lives, we weren't even They had just gotten
married a few years prior. They thought they had their
whole lives ahead of them, and it was something that
she regretted not being prepared.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, we don't teach our kids about this sort of stuff.
And coming out of college, there's a couple of things
that you really should have in addition to getting yourself
a good job. But once you get that job, get
yourself a retirement account, and you get your affairs in order,
your wills and your living wills so people can know
your advanced directives and that sort of thing. So if
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you end up in a coma and that sort of
thing as well, and we don't talk about it enough,
and so this is your opportunity, you know, find somebody
who's close to you and go and talk about this
stuff and go to Trust and Will dot com. It's
going to be a lifesaver, so to speak. If your
pardon them, I'll.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Pardon that pun, Greg.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That was this episode of After Hours with us, the
producers of the Clay and Buck Show. You'll find us
in the feed from time to time. Like we said,
a random little easter egg of content about what goes
on behind the scenes of the Clay and Buck Show.
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