Battleground LIVE: Train Wreck Kamala is Imploding

Tonight on Battleground LIVE:

In the arena tonight: Dr. Zama, world class heart surgeon and former candidate for PA Governor 

• What Obama said about Kamala is telling

• Kamala’s disastrous interview with Fox News

• Dr. Zama on his incredible life, his book, and what it was like to date Kamala Harris

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good evening, America, Welcome to battle Ground Live. This is
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to be in America. Got a huge, huge show for
you today. Listen. I've got a guy first time.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I asked you all in the battle crew to throw
some suggestions in the live chat for what we should
call first time joiners or first time guests on Battleground Live.
We got one tonight. His name is doctor Zama. Now listen.
This guy is extraordinary. He's a dear friend of mine.
I love him. I met him on the campaign traill

(01:06):
when I was running for Senate in twenty twenty two
in the Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. He's also a world
class heart surgeon, has one of the most inspirational backstories ever,
like no exaggeration. Hopefully we'll get a chance to get
into it tonight. And he's so much more than this,
but I think it's important given the disastrous Brett Bayer

(01:29):
interview that Kamala Harris had last night. In fact, every
interview that Kamala Harris gives is like a slow motion
train wreck. I mean, this woman is a disaster and
we can't let her anywhere near the Oval. However, doctor
Zama also dated Kamala Harris, so I mean that he's
so much more than that, so much more than that.
But I just thought, like, he really knows her, knows her,

(01:51):
and I'm gonna ask him what he thinks about her
getting close to the White House and why he's scared
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I've been telling you this both with empirical proof, through
polling data with Savage Rich yesterday, or just my sense
of where we are in this country politically. But trust

(03:39):
me when I tell you that the Democrats are in
panic mode. It seems as if things are coming apart
at the seams. There is a political article that came
out yesterday Politico Right, not exactly a conservative bastion for

(04:00):
political thought, right, but when things aren't going well, leaks
start to happen, and the headline of this article is
Pennsylvania is such a mess inside Team Harris's unusual levels
of finger pointing, and I quote some are even pointing
fingers at Harris's Pennsylvania campaign manager, Nikki Lou, who they

(04:23):
say lacks deep knowledge of Philadelphia, where the vice president
must drive up voter turnout in order to win. Now, folks,
listen to me, this is this is what campaigns that
are struggling. This is what happens. Okay, everybody. These campaigns
are so massive they've got staffers everywhere, and when a

(04:46):
campaign is massive, every state, especially swing states, have leaders
in communities that want to make sure they're taken care
of by the campaign. Like the mayor of Philadelphia, by
the way, hardcore Democrat, but is also apparently very very
angry that Kamala Harris has not involved her more in
her campaign. So again, lots of big egos in politics.

(05:09):
If they feel like they're being left by the wayside,
bad things happen. And when this happens, leaks start happening.
And here's why they're here's why these are happening, these
leaks because right now everybody's playing a big game of
c y A battle Crew. You know at CYA means
it means cover your ass. I am telling you, like Democrats,

(05:34):
they don't want to be the leaders in Pennsylvania and
the Democrat Party don't want to be held responsible for
what could be could could could be a Democrat loss
in the state. And I say could because you know,
for those first time viewers and listeners, there's no talk
of red waves on this show. We campaign like we're
ten points down, period, full stop. Yes, things look good

(05:57):
for us, but we sprint to the finish line. So yes,
yesterday there was this video released of Biden and Obama
at Ethyl Kennedy's funeral. It was a video that was
filmed by c SPAN. I'm gonna play it for you
right now. But the folks who like to listen to
the show, what this video is. You won't be able

(06:18):
to hear any actual dialogue. But what this video is
as a conversation with You know, you can't really hear
between Barack Obama and Joe Biden, and both look very concerned.
So watch this and then I'll tell you what happened
with this video. It's set the Internet a blaze. Okay,
So for those who are watching, you saw what I'm

(06:40):
talking about. But for those who are not, again video
of Barack Obama Joe Biden talking. Now. The New York
Post hired a professional lip reader to analyze the interaction
that you just saw again at Ethyl Kennedy's memorial conversation
between Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Joe Biden, according to

(07:05):
this professional lip reader, says she's not as strong as me,
and Barack Obama responds, I know that's true. We have time.
I cannot even begin to tell you that if this
is true, and I tend to think that it is
because a look of concern on their face is evident.

(07:28):
When you add to that all of the leaks that
are happening in the Democrat Party, when you add to
that the polling disaster, especially in the run belt in
the Rust belt Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, but also in the
Sun Belt in Arizona, perhaps Nevada, Georgia, North Carolina seen
internal polling here for Republicans, and even Mark Halpern, who

(07:51):
again is a Democrat, has got great Democrats sources. He's
seen internal polling for Democrats, and on good authority, he
feels like Arizona is Trump's strongest state. Georgia looks amazing.
And if you haven't seen the early vote numbers in Georgia,
they are split right down the middle. And this is
early voting, right, typically something that the Democrats excel at.

(08:13):
But in Georgia the early vote is about tied. North
Carolina internal polling votes for Democrats and Republicans. The general
sentiment is, again, anything can happen, but the general sentiment
is is that Trump is extraordinarily strong there. And of
course Pennsylvania looks good as well. When we talk about
Pennsylvania a lot on this show, why because folks, as

(08:35):
President Trump has said and I've said many times, Pennsylvania
is the ballgame. Does Kamala Harris have other paths to
the White House without Pennsylvania?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Are those paths very, very tough and unlikely? Yes, So
if we can take Pennsylvania off of the board, the
likelihood of Kamala Harris being in the White House goes
down exponentially. In fact, they are sentators out there that
say ninety six percent chance that Trump is back in
the White House should he win Pennsylvania. But I say

(09:07):
all this to say that the Democrats are really, really panicked.
They just are, and they're doing everything that they can
to prop up Kamala Harris. I'm sure you saw the
news of Israel killing in a moss leader today, Yaya
Sinwar was killed in Gaza. Well, what's interesting about this

(09:27):
is they sent Kamala Harris out to address the nation.
There's so much about this that drives me crazy. But
the first thing that came to mind when I saw
her walk out and give this address is where the
hell is Joe Biden. Joe Biden's the commander in chief.
He should look. I know he's an animated corpse. I

(09:49):
know he's pretty much gone, but he's still the commander
in chief. Again, for those who are watching and listening,
it goes without saying I think I think Donald Trump
legitimate twenty I just want you all to know that.
But Biden's in the Oval Office now. He should be
addressing the nation. His responsibility as commander of the United
States Armed Forces, an obligation therein to the American people

(10:13):
is critically important. But Kamala Harris delivered the message that
yah Ya Sinhwar was killed in Gaza.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Listen today, Israel confirmed that yah Ya Sinhwar, the leader
of Hamas, is dead and justice has been served and
the United States, Israel, and the entire world are better
off as a result. Sinwar was responsible for the killing
of thousands of innocent people, including the victims of October

(10:42):
seven and hostages killed in Gaza. He had American blood
on his hands. Today, I can only hope that the
families of the victims of Hamas feel a sense and
measure of relief. Sinwar was the mastermind of October seven,

(11:02):
the deadliest day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust,
a terrorist attack that killed twelve hundred innocent people and
included horrific sexual violence and more than two hundred and
fifty hostages taken into Gaza, including seven Americans living and
deceased who remain in captivity. A terrorist attack that triggered

(11:28):
a devastating war in Gaza, A war that has led
to unconscionable suffering of many innocent Palestinians and greater instability
throughout the Middle East. In the past year, American special
operations and intelligence personnel have worked closely with their Israeli

(11:51):
counterparts to locate and track Sinnoar and other Hamas leaders,
and I commend their work. And I will say to
any terrorist who kills Americans, threatens the American people, or
threatens our troops or our interests, know this, we will

(12:13):
always bring you to justice. Israel has a right to
defend itself and the threat Hamas poses to Israel must
be eliminated. Today there is clear progress toward that goal.
Hamas is decimated and its leadership is eliminated. This moment

(12:36):
gives us an opportunity to finally end the war in Gaza,
and it must end such that Israel is secure, the
hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the
Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom,

(12:59):
and self de termination. And it is time for the
day after to begin. Without Hamas in power, we will
not give up on these goals, and I will always
work to create a future of peace, dignity and security

(13:20):
for all. I thank you all.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So at the end there. I'm sorry first of all
for playing that. It's like, uh, I realized that maybe
your IQ fell listening to her. Because what's crazy to
me is that she can't even give a basic statement
about a terrorist being killed without reading from a little
piece of paper. Right, She's so utterly clueless that she

(13:46):
can't even do that. She can hardly read the piece
of paper. But like, I played the entire thing because
the end was very important to me. A reporter asked,
and I don't know if you could hear it, but
are you an end to the war?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
And she has an answer. She just walks away. Folks,
this is why Kamala Harris is hemorrhaging the Muslim vote,
especially in states like Michigan. This is absolutely critical. But
if you want peace, global peace, the answer is not

(14:26):
Kamala Harris and the liberal left. And imagine this, by
the way, at some point in time in your life,
the Democrats have become the party of pro war. The
Democrats are the forever war party. Like that is absolutely
crazy to me. I did not have that on my
twenty twenty four Bingo card. But if you want peace,
you vote for Trump. And I think that's why Muslims

(14:46):
are completely walking away from from Kamala Harris in huge
numbers and now tallying up for Trump. He's got Muslim
endorsements all throughout the state of Michigan. But I just can't.
I can't get over over here. Something else I just
got to get to. So Kamala says all of this

(15:07):
right and takes credit for it, because that's clearly what
she's trying to do. Where the hell's Joe Biden new
to Hell knows Eaton is putting somewhere on Air Force one,
probably has no idea he's on Air Force one, right,
But Kamala Harris was against any sort of attack in
Gaza or Rafa before she tried to claim credit for it.

(15:28):
Just listen.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
We have been clear in multiple conversations and in every
way that any major military operation in Rafa would be
a huge mistake. Let me tell you something. I have
studied the maps. There's nowhere for those folks to go.
And we're looking at about a million and a half

(15:50):
people in Rafa who are there because they were told
to go there, most of them. And so we've been
very clear that it would be a mistake to move
been to Rafa. With any type of military operation.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
A mistake, but would there be consequences if he does
move forward.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Well, we're going to take it one step at a time,
but we've been very clear in terms of ours.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Don't worry everybody. She studied the maps, so.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
Since she was against it, right, she was completely against
any sort of invasion in Darrafa. She was completely against
Israel going after terrorists, leaders, rescuing hostages.

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Zama here in a few minutes. But let me like this,
Kamala Harris, Fox News interview. I gotta talk about this
for just a couple of seconds. What's truly amazing to me.
So this interview with Brett Bay was a disaster on
so many levels, and I was anxious to see it.

(19:03):
After the show yesterday, I came upstairs. I turned to
my wife, Commander Melanie, and I said, Melanie, Oh my god,
I have never, and I mean never seen an interview
that was that bad for anyone on either side of
the aisle who's running for president. Just that bad. You

(19:26):
gotta look, Kamala Harris. We have just made the point
that the Democrats are panicking, that her campaign is struggling
to gain traction and swing states all across this country.
She gotta shake things up. She's got to shift fire.
Here with nineteen days to go, not a good place
to be. But in order to shift fire, she's got
to do more media interviews. In order to win this race,

(19:49):
she has to sway undecided voters or maybe even some
moderate Republicans that she's a safe choice. Hence the reason
why she goes on Fox News to do this. There's
no other reason for her to do this other than
she is struggling and needs to bring voters in. Elections
are about addition and not subtraction. That's what she's trying

(20:11):
to do. What's truly extraordinary and also tragic at the
exact same time is that Kamala Harris has not been
asked any of these questions yet. And they aren't gotcha
questions either. They're just as basic as they come. So

(20:34):
even after prepping, because you've got to believe she's got
hundreds of campaign staffers that are prepping her for these
questions right behind the scenes, even after prepping for what
seems like weeks and ignoring the media for what seems
like weeks, Kamala can still not answer even what our

(20:58):
basic questions.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
To me.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
That is absolutely crazy in the media. I think Sonny
Hosten was on MSDNC. The media is already screaming sexism
and racism and all this bullshit. I mean, that's how
you know, by the way, that the interview was a
complete disaster, because when they have nothing else that's what
the left does is just trot out that bullshit. But

(21:27):
listen to this. Just this is how the interview started.
This was the first question that Brett Baher asked. It's
the easiest question in the world, and if you're being honest,
you just answer it, right. But the problem is is
that people on the left, they conflate, they gaslight, they lie,
and they simply can't be honest. And if you can't

(21:50):
be honest, you can't really answer direct questions, right. So
what Kamala Harris tried to do throughout this interview was
just filibuster, not really answer question. Brett Baher only had
twenty five minutes, right, so her I think her goal
was just a filibuster through the whole thing. But listen
to the very first question, as basic as it comes,

(22:12):
did not go well for her.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
You know, voters tell polsters all over the country and
here in Pennsylvania that immigration is one of the key
issues that they're looking at this election, and specifically the
influx of illegal immigrants from more than one hundred and
fifty countries. How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your
administration has released into the country over the last three

(22:34):
and a half years.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Well, I'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because
I agree with you. It is a topic of discussion
that people want to rightly have and you know what
I'm going to talk about.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, but do you're just a number? Do you think
it's one million, three million?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Brett.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Let's just get to the point, okay. The point is
that we have a broken immigration system that needs to
be repaired.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
So your Homeland Security secretary said that apprehension.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
I'm not finished.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
We have a we have a refreshment of six million
people have been released into the country, and let me
just finish.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I'll get you the question.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
I promise you.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
I was beginning to.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Answer, and when when you came, Kamala tried to trot
out that I'm speaking like ten times in that interview.
It was really unbelievable. But hey, how many people as
your administration let in your policy. You should know you
were appointed. The borders are for goodness sake. Seems like

(23:31):
a pretty straightforward answer, but she can't answer it all. Also,
I see you stay in Salty. Thank you for the
rumble rant tip, she says, Sean Commander, Melanie and Cindy
battle crew, you rock.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I really appreciate that, and I really appreciate you all
being with us here on the show like you have
been for the last year. We're so lucky to have you.
Thank you for that, Salty, I appreciate that. But this
interview completely went off the rails from her and it
did not get better from there. Kamala Harris again was

(24:03):
asked about Lake and Riley and other Americans who were
killed by illegal aliens. Again, she had to know this
question was going to be asked, had to know it
was a layup. I mean, folks, there were so many
instances from this interview that would have effectively ended anybody
else's campaign out there, like for some reason, like she

(24:25):
is just the most unqualified person to ever run for
president ever. But listen to the question about Lake and
Riley and other people murdered by illegal aliens. It didn't Again,
horrible answer.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Jocelyn Hungary, Rachel Morin, Laken Riley. They are young women
who were brutally assaulted and killed by some of the
men who were released at the beginning of the administration,
well before a negotiated bipartisan bill. Former President Clinton actually
referred to Lake and Riley Sunday campaigning for you and
Georgia saying, if those men had been properly vetted, Lake

(24:56):
and Riley probably would not have been killed. So if
it would have happened, this is well before any negotiation,
This is well before Donald Trump got involved in the politics.
This is a specific policy decision by your administration to
release these men into the country. So what I'm saying
to you, do you know those families really I think
an apology.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Let me just say, first of all, those are tragic cases.
There's no question about that. There is no question about that.
And I can't imagine the pain that the families of
those victims have experienced for a loss that should not
have occurred. So that is true. It is also true

(25:41):
that if a border of security had actually been passed
nine months ago, it would be nine months that we
would have had more border agents at the border, more
support for the folks who are working around the clock
trying to hold it all together.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Madame Vice pressent ensure.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
That no future harm would occur. And this election in
twenty days will determine whether we have a president of
the United States who actually cares more about fixing a problem,
even if it is not to their political advantage in
an election because there was a solution.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
Brat Madame Vice President. It was a policy decision in
the early part of your administration. I will let one
of the mothers talk about it.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Take a listen.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Because of the Biden Harris administration open border policies catch
and release, they were enrolled in the Alternatives to Detention program.
This meant that they were released into the United States.
It was not even a full three weeks later that
they would take my daughter, Joscelyn Nungerray's life. I believe
the Biden Harris administration open border policies are responsible for

(26:48):
the death of my daughter.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
That's the early days.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
So do you owe them an apologies?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
I shall tell you that I am so sorry for
her loss. I'm so sorry for her loss.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Sincerely, the Biden administration, along with Kamala Harris again, she
was put in charge of the border. Her title, her
title was Borders Are. Her title was Borders Are, and

(27:23):
her title was borders Are. And it's just unbelievable to me.
Rolls back ninety plus executive orders from President Trump that
kept this border secure and she can't even say, she

(27:45):
cannot even say that she's sorry for the loss of
these Americans at the hands of her own policies, like
look at this and how the media has responded. I
got a show you this. Look at this from NPR.

(28:06):
Harris interview on Fox gets testy, but also gives her
a do over from CNN. Kamala Harris spars with Fox
News anchor and testy interview AP. Harris's interview with Fox
News is marked by testy exchanges over immigration and more.
Kamala Harris is Fox News interview from The Hollywood Reporter

(28:29):
opens with testy exchange and interruptions from host. If you
watch this interview, Brett Bayer could not have been more
soft spoken, He could not have been more professional, and folks,
I was a little worried that Brett Bayer was going
to ask her softball questions, but he did not. How
about CNA Fiery Harris vows to break from Biden and

(28:53):
testy Fox interview. What do you see from all of
these things? The same word testy, testy, and I have
half of me. I kind of wonder, folks, listen, like
who's passing out the talking points to the media that
they all say the same thing. I mean, this is
truly unbelievable stuff, is it not. Okay, So I've got

(29:18):
the great doctor Zama here on deck, and I want
to bring him on here right now because I know
his time is valuable. But let me tell you a
little bit about him. I met doctor Zama, if you
weren't here at the top of the hour on the
campaign trail when I was running for Senate in Pennsylvania
in twenty twenty two. He was running for governor of
Pennsylvania at the same time. It's just an extraordinary guy.

(29:39):
He's a world class heart surgeon, and he's the author
of a book, Mommy, Please don't die without further ado.
Doctor Zama, my friend, how you doing? Brother? A long
time man you are? You are like one of the
most amazing people that I met. I met obviously tell
people that like I met you on the campaign trail,

(30:01):
but you have one of the most inspirational backstories and
immigration stories about coming to America, why you came to America,
And I thought, before we get into politics, maybe you
could share that with people if you feel comfortable.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Sure, sure, sure, Well, really, my journey is like a
lot of people out there, and well, it's just a
little special because of the circumstances that preceded it. And
as many of you know, I was actually born in
this small country called Cameroon. It's in Africa, right south

(30:39):
of the Sahara Desert, and I grew up in this
tiny village and.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
The missionaries came open to school.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
You know, I'm really a product of the missionary you know,
work in Africa and all over the world. And I
left school. I saw at h three I started first grade.
I was finding I was crying out temper tatrum. I
wanted to go to school, and and I really had
various stute parents and they said.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Well, we'll let him go to school. It wasn't because they.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Thought education was going to be great for me at
age three, but I was just such a pain in
the ass. And so I started.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
And I'm telling you, I have distinct.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Clear memories of the experience the first day in school,
and I just never came back emotionally. I just started
learning a lot and skipped a couple of grades. And
then my mom and my dad started talking about there's
a great the best secondary school in the country. It

(31:44):
goes we want you to go there, And I said
this just going back to the whole school choice thing.
You know, people debate about it here too illiterate subsistence
farmers in the grass hut in Africa wouldn't pull the significance.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Of school for the billions of dollars here fighting and
giving a pushback. And what in my case is unfortunate
because I'm only about ten years old. She goes to
give birth and she bleeds to.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Death, and I'm scaring your mother, my mom.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
She's only about twenty nine thirty years of age, and
I think it's my seventh sibling. And the baby comes out.
I'm actually standing there with her h and she's bleeding.
I could see the blood flowing out of her. I
was actually leaning against her bed, this rinking, dainty thing

(32:37):
that called a bed, but the blood was soaking my shorts.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
And I'm holding her hand and she's screaming, son, I'm dying.
Go home.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
She didn't want to want me to see her die.
And there was a nurse standing in the room who
kept crying. She says, there's no doctor. They only have
one doctor in that hospital. Well, unfortunately she went on
to die, and it was really difficult, and she was
my cheerleader. She was the toughest month took no prisoners.
She sat with me and have me, watched me study

(33:07):
every night. And I've told that story a thousand times
to my children. And and they'll take turns with my dad.
So I couldn't escape. They had to, you know, short
leach and uh. And so I'd gotten at the foundation,
and so as I walked out of the hospital, a
couple of things, And to this day, those two things

(33:29):
drove me to where I am today. One I never
wanted and nothing I wanted to be a doctor. So
no child would ever have to experience what I just experienced.
And number two, no parent will have to suffer like
my mom had. And so uh that has really underlined
everything I've done in my life to make sure patients

(33:49):
get the best care and uh and and and be
very mindful of what's important and the fundamentals of building
a child.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
And making a child grow up to be useful member
of society.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
So educational empowerment well so a missionary and American Peace
Corps volunteer. At that secondary school I finally enrolled, got
kicked out a thousand times because I couldn't afford tuition.
I had to buy mangos and pineapples and sell to
pay tuition.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
That's just a mess.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
And but this peace call volunteer from And when I
was running for governor town tried to track the gentleman
down and it didn't work.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
God, but he looked at me and he says, Son,
he loved to read. He would feed me books.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know some of the books that the American Church
members is to donate to African kids. Well, I wanted
the beneficiars. I would read like a book of Day sometimes.
And he's I says, I want to be a doctor.
He says, if you go to America, he says, and
you work hard. Two words, work hard, you can be
the doctor you want to be. So my dad saw

(34:54):
the farm, got twenty dollars, No, got three hundred dollars
for the farm. Bought me a one way ticket, and
the family got together and donated twenty dollars, and I
hopped on a plane.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
And by the way, Charn just a couple of months ago,
in August twenty eighth, I took my kids to Paris,
where I made that stop on the way to the
US and stayed at the same hotel years ago.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
And so I left the country with two twenty dollars
and a rved to New York City and I went
on and to work hard. Like the Peace Corps volunteer
had said, homeless lifted the YMC. You can read it
in the book, and it still brings tears to my
eyes when I think about it. This is the greatest
nation in the world. And then finally got trained as
a cardiothoristic surgeon at Harvard Medical School. Got a master's

(35:43):
degree from Harvard as well, and went on to Cleveland
Clinic training to.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Be a surgeon.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Had the best medical training on the planet. Did a
PhD in chemistry as well. I loved this country and
I've spent time doing missionary work. Just a few months ago,
I was in South Africa doing heart surgery for free.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Teaching people and operating on kids. I've traveled to Cambodia.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I used to fly kids to Bradford County when I
was a director at the Guthrie Clinic. People still remember
bringing them from Cambodia. Take teams there to do surgery,
break some of the kids and operate.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
That's what America is. The greatness of this nation, and
you know it's just it's I don't want this to
be ruined.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Why Because whatever we do in life, it only has
me if it hinges on the value proposition, proposition to
our children. So opening the borders wide open, letting legals
come into this country, spending billions of dollars on them,
when our kids up in Bradford County, in Philadelphia and

(36:45):
Pittsburgh and places all around this great nation of ours
can't even afford to get a decent education, and we're
spending billions.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Doctor Nama, Can I ask you a question?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:59):
How did you? How did you? And forgive me if
this is too direct, but so many people experience horrible
loss in their life, and it sends them on a
trajectory that perhaps isn't super it's not a good one,
but you seem to have used it almost as rocket

(37:19):
fuel and accomplished extraordinary things. Like as you're telling the story,
so many things are going through my mind, But one,
how did you process the death of your mother and
and turn it into something that has propelled you to
where you are today? Number one? And number two, when
you got to America? What the hell did you do
with twenty bucks? Like what you do when you got here?

(37:42):
How does that even work?

Speaker 1 (37:44):
You're you're unroofing a tumor here, very very uncomfortable, but
with you, you know, I got the GfK real quick,
and I've got I got out of extensive money, twenty
dollars exactly. My destination was actually Baltimore, but I just

(38:05):
wanted to get to America. And I get to New York,
you still have to get to Baltimore. Well, I got
scammed out of the twenty dollars by and not so
nice time.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
What that's the first thing that happens to you when
you get to America. Somebody scams you.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
And yeah, I was I'm just, you know, really barely
fourteen fifteen. And the gentleman he says, where you from?
I says Africa. So I didn't realize in saying that
a lot of my vulnerability because I thought he was
just a nice guy. So I says, I want to
go to Baltimore. So I needed to get there and

(38:42):
get to Port Authority and catch a bus and and
so he dropped me off somewhere and he goes, it's
going to be twenty dollars, and I would find.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Out later it was just a few dollars the trip.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
So now I'm out of money and I'm homeless in town.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
So I wound up spending the night behind a library
right there on forty second Street. I tears still rolled
down my you know, out of my eyes when I
get down to forty second in New York around Times
Square and the greatness of America. I always said, you know,
there's like there's a silver lining wherever you find find darkness.

(39:20):
I'm holding my luggage and I'm like lost, totally lost,
and a gentleman comes up to me and he goes,
you know, where are you trying to go?

Speaker 3 (39:29):
I says, babi bah. He says, well, you got to
take a bus this, that, and you know I have
no money.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
He grabbed my stuff with me and I talk about
this in the book and walk me took a Softway
pint and I know I'd never.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Been in a Softway, knew nothing about it.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
And finally we got the port authority gave me twenty dollars,
got me a ticket to ball.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Great country. You know.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Wow. Yeah, So doctor Zama like, so you get here.
Another question? Why get involved in politics? Like it's just one.
I mean, it's important that we have amazing people like
you run and try to throw your hat in the ring.
But at the same time, it just you meet some

(40:12):
of the well, I mean, I suppose it's like anything
else in life. You meet the best and worst people
in it. But there are like why try to run
for office?

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Well, so running for political office. The way I look
at it is this is something I've been doing. I've
been politics all my life. Politics is everything we do.
It's it determines what kind of education our children get,
what type of housing we get, the type of jobs,
the type of security, and all the major pillars in
our lives. So when you look at what I've been

(40:44):
doing as a doctor working with teams, I don't like
to think of myself as saving lives because I always
think about it as a team, the great nurses and
the other doctors and technicians that.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
I work with. So we're all in politics.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Why is that commitment to human sell service on a
different platform? And so what I did was the same commitment,
the same banner, but on a different platform, so I.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Can be empowered. Power is important, and being in politics
gives you the power.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Power is the ability to affect change, and I got
I threw my hat in the ring because I wanted
to be empowered to bring about the effect change to
improve the lives of the lots of people in Pennsylvania,
great stay of Pennsylvania, the children in the communities all
across the state. We have a terrible situation with suicide

(41:36):
rates going through the roof, and especially with COVID, we're
going through that time.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
The way the COVID was.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Mismanaged, I couldn't sit there as a doctor and as
an advocate for humans, for humanity and do nothing about it.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
And I thought that the talents that God has given
me not just what I know.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
I'm not saying I have knowledge about everything, but I
have the capacity to understand and empathize with human suffering
and put together the right type of team that can
address those issues. And just like surgery, when you grab
as capital, you own the outcome. I knew so I've
been trained to be a leader. That's how I looked

(42:16):
at it. And if I grabbed that scalpel or whatever,
the key to the house directorship of the state as governor,
I knew that I could put together a good team
to transform human life in Pennsylvania at the highest level
of excellencey.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Just like I had done with Servant God, Doctor Zama this.
Let me just tell you something. You know you are
clearly I mean, this country we are better for having
somebody like you in it, Like we are so lucky
to have great people like you. Talk about this country
being amazing. It's amazing because we have people like you
living in it. That's just a fact. So how does

(42:53):
a guy like you, you know, a public servant, absolutely
unbelie believably tragic and inspirational backstory? How the hell conservative? Right,
clearly conservative, like down to your core. How the hell
does a guy like you meet Kamala Harris? How does
that happen? You gotta tell me about this interesting story.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
So what happened is briefly, and the early two.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Thousand I was invited with how late President George Bush Senior,
and at that time I was president of the Heart
to Heart Foundation.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
It's a medical humanitarian organization on the Who's auspices.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I was able to travel the world and do free
surgery and teach and help specifically children because I did
pediatric heart surgery. And so I had done so much
humanitarian work overseas and lectured about it, helped set up
healthcare infrastructures in a minute, developing countries.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
That work got out and I got invited to the.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
European Economic Conference in Athens, Greece, to discuss the UH,
help educate European leaders.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
I mean, we had Searon of Israel there.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
We had all these leaders in attendance from friends Germany,
Herman Cole of Germany, who became very good friend of
mine after that, and I became this doctor Chancellor of Germany.
But during that, it was during that meeting, after my speech,
that I got a call from a friend of Prince

(44:25):
Alexander of former Yugoslavia.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Wait you know wait, wait wait you know princes yeah, yeah,
well how that doctor zahmah, what the hell? Man like
this is insane.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Well the details of this in the book. But after
the meeting I get that night, I get so many
knocks on my door. We were staying at a steel
palace hotel in Athens, very secure, Like I said.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
You got all these European leaders right there under the
same roof.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
And later at night I gotta knock on the door
and I opened it in a couple of six service guys.
They said, Chancellor Cole wants to meet you and talk
to you. He was moved by your speech today, and
I was My speech has been on the economic implications
of challenging contemporary health issues. Remember we were grappling with
anthrax at that time, you know, and and stuff like that,

(45:19):
stem cell research, you know. And so I went and
spent three hours with him. We were chatting, came back
to the room and and he asked me that would
you be my doctor? So and for confidentiald the's.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Sake, I can't go into the d of course, of
course book and.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Actually in my book to see pictures of he and
I we took when we were there in Greece. But
then I got a phone call and.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
It was a friend of the prince, Prince Alexander, you know,
the former King Alexander. If you remember the history and
you could stop your Second World War, Tito.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Just to be clear, I don't know the history of Yugosla.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
The king, the royal leader was King Alexander.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
He was chased out by Emperor Tito and the family
moved to London, where Prince Alexander, talking about now, I
was born and so years ago, after the Boston War,
he decided to come back and he wanted to do
something for his country and the children's hospital.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Had been bombed during the war and he wanted to
rebuild it.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
He wanted a fundraiser to affect this, and so he
heard about me, and he says, maybe I could help
him out given my international experience. So while I'm there
in Serbia, I traveled there for the fundraise. I met
for Prime Minister Jingik, who unfortunately got assassinated. A lady
that told me a lady from California had donated I

(46:43):
believe it was twelve to fifteen furnished ambulances to the effort,
and I thought.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
That was great.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
And so we have dinner and I'm sitting with the
Prime Minister of Serbia Jingi and his wife, and this
lady comes and taps me on his shoulder and want
to chat with me.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
And her name is Didni. He's hail h a l E.
Now she's the Uh she was.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
The widow of mister Manelli, Liza Manelli's ex husband.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
What yeah, so Liza. So now not only do you
know princes, but you know the family of Liza Minnelli.
Doctor Samah, what who the hell are you? Are you
like some damn superhero or something like you're are you
like this moonlight as a as a cardio surgeon. Are
you really Batman? Is this just your alter ego? What
the hell is going on here?

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Well, it was starting Tiffany, this this lady is obviously
a humanitarian and not impressed me. See what warms my
heart is what you do for others and you're concerned
about the welfare of others. So when I when I
met her, then, uh, I says wow, I says, I
heard about all the ambulances he donated.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
That's really great. I'm impressed. She goes, you gotta come
out and visit me. She was very motherly to in
San Francisco. I didn't know who she was. I didn't
know this history of her Manelli. So I fly out one.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Weekend I was off now alcohol to California, and we
were talking.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
I got to meet a lot of her friends and
great lady. And then during a.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Second visit, she goes, there's a young lady here who's
running for district attorney. It says she needs a nice guy,
professional man, you know, And she talked about the things
that have been ongoing. And my response immediately remember was no,
I'm busy, I've got to I'm you know, I'm flying

(48:35):
operating and doing stuff. I mean I was really busy.
I mean I was doing a lot of heart surgery
than doing missionary works. I have no time for relationship. Well,
she kept insisting, and she goes, you know, I think
you should be give it a So during a subsequent
visit where they're having dinner and I believe a couple
of the with the San Francisco Symphony the just performed

(48:56):
after an event, was sitting somewhere in walks and a
lady I didn't oh she was, and she came up
to me, and she already heard about me, and she
came up. Look, Doctor Zomer says, yeah, she was. My
name is caml And so I says, okay, So it
was kind of noisy. I said, let's go outside and
talk and we exchange full numbers, and that's how I got.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
To know her.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
So I have to admit, I'm like, doctor Zama is
one of the smartest people I know. And now clearly
like you know, an international spy and maybe even Batman
with all your international connections. Like but I was like, man,
doctor Sama is a smart, smart guy. How the hell
does he get wound up dating Kamala Harris? Like, so
now it all makes sense through Liza Minelli's family, which

(49:42):
is the random thing in the world, by the way. So, okay,
so you're dating Kamala Harris. I don't. I don't, don't. Really,
you know her better than you know the real her.
Why does it scare you what that she could be
in the Oval office?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Well, so, first of all, you know people by their actions.
One of the problems we had in conflict was from
the very start because I don't look at political affiliations.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
I look at somebody's heart. Yes, I'm a Republican. It's
the only party I've ever been part of.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
A card carrying memory, all right, But there are some
people in the Democratic Party who believe in the values
of America in the system, and like many of us
in the Republican Party, even clothing our President Trump, You've
supported them based on the fact that these are true
blue Americans, because the whole idea is supporting your country,
loving your country. But from the very beginning I noticed

(50:44):
she was concerned when she asked me, I didn't actually
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Know what a party affiliation was. This is why I says, probably,
I said, I'm a Republican. I believe in Republican value. Oh,
I can't believe that.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Well, she wasn't happy with that, And I thought that
happened to me a lot, because I guess because of stereotypes,
people look at me and they just assume that I
would be a Democrat.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
And also when I treat people as a doctor, it.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Doesn't matter to me what their party affiliations are, so
that magnanimity and just what I project on who I
am kind of it's very neutral, and so it allows
people to make assumptions sometimes about maybe my political affiliation.
So that was a problem with them, and so I

(51:30):
tried to, you know, push that aside. I say, if
you're trying to run for others, because you want to
make a difference in the lives of the people in
this community, and I remember talking specifically about their children.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
So you want to get a political person, get their attention.
See how much they talk about children's lives and how
they're can to alter.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
That's somebody who has a commitment, because that's a commitment
in pepetuity.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
But I didn't see that, So I try, I says,
like all, like many people, people like.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Myself, doctors who a challenge becomes an opportunity. I set
out to see what I can do to really get
her on the right track as far as what so.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
You thought you could fix her?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Well, so.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I'm just.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Well I helped support her in many ways and and
and it just came to a point on that trip
overseas where I have to say, and I speak objectively, that.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Sometimes you gotta know when something is beyond you. You
know what I mean? And I just walked away.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
So you wait, you broke up with her?

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yes, So I mean, what what's your character?

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Like?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
What seriously?

Speaker 3 (52:47):
What like?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Tell me is she? I mean, I I don't want
you dish it. I mean, this isn't the National Inquirer,
but like people need to know the kind of person
that might be controlling the nuclear code.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Put it this way, you don't have to look at
the great big things people do in life. How you
do anything is how you're going to do everything. Think
about it and look at the border crisis. What did
Biden say, You're in charge of.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
The border.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
And the border is the worst it's ever been.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
When President Trump was running, what did he say, we
need a walk? What did they call him from acrost?
He's a racist? He's terrible. We need to be building bridges.
All this nonsense. I've traveled the world.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
I can't just go to Japan.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Now I'll pitch attend and says I'm Japanese, you know,
bring all my folks to live.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Every sovereign nation has a right to protect this border.
Why does America have to be an exception? And he
an American who believes that America should be an exception.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
That American, the.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
American animal, whatever they profess, need to be questioned. And
if you are, borders are And by the way, Trump's
policies on immigration have not been altered. And now many
on that site, including US out, have been talking about
building a wall. But for you four years, I've not

(54:18):
seen anything. If anything, it's worse. It's free for all.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
Up of the world.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Even this reason, that's just a couple of weeks ago.
I was in five European countries. What they keep saying,
they like Trump.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I don't know, doctor Zama, the crazy like you're you're
an immigrant yourself, and yet you talk about illegal immigration
almost as if it's insulting to you.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Well, the thing about it is this country is people
talk about this was.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
The land of immigrants.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
That's true, but we can't go back to the years
where we didn't have borders. People forget to critically think
that there are certain consequences for keeping your borders poorous.
All right, there comes a time when you're building the house.
The first thing you don't build is a wall. You
build a house, but then you need to protect your

(55:08):
family and protect your property, so you fence it around.
You have a perimeter that defines who's here, and anybody
has to have access. Who needs access to your house
has to have permission to come in. You can't just
bodge it.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
But then if you.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Amplify that to the level we're talking about nationally, every
nation embraces that.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Why is it that there are people out there, I call.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Them traders who are saying America shouldn't unless you're using
that for political experiencing. And it's not the person that
I would trust for the future of our children. Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
How you do one thing is how you do everything.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
You said that, like you and I were just talking
prior to the interview. You said that that Kamala and
I am not trying to go back to Kamala, but well,
I mean, it's everything We're nineteen days out from my
think the most important election of our lifetime. But you
had mentioned something to me that like stuck with me,
my friend, and it was about pressure. If you're the
president of the United States, you are going, I mean,

(56:11):
this is why people go into office and they come
out with gray hair. You know what I mean? Like
you are under unbelievable amounts of pressure. I'm sure as
a heart surgeon, unbelievable amounts of pressure. Can Kamala handle
the job? Because you said, well, she kind of buckles
under pressure.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but
is that what you said?

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Yes? Is that what you believe?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
I am concerned about that, and I want to speak
objectively as a doctor. Now, you probably saw what I
wrote about Biden. And then a few weeks after that,
there was an opera on the Democratic ranks and they
said he can't be because I said, what, he has
Parkinson's disease. I believe I'm oh what the first person
who was taking it to the social media, and I

(56:52):
gave all the characteristics of Pompinson that he has, even
though they refused, I'm well.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Trained doctor experience, I've seen it in him.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
His cognitive decline with something that many deny it, but
you don't have to be a doctor to.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Discern, and including Kabalin. Like last night on the interview,
Doctor Zama's Brett Bayer is like, hey, when did you
notice his decline? You sat with him every day. She
couldn't even answer it.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Well, see something here, and so I talked about the
stresses of the presidency.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Now I know stress.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
When you take somebody, you put them to sleep, you
saw their chest open, you stop the heart.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
The clock is ticking.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Well, man, if I didn't do well under pressure, I
wouldn't be sitting here today. I would be somewhere floating
on a on an ocean, somewhere on the on the
bottom of the ocean, somewhere or right. So can he
handle that pressure? I tell you somebody who's traveled internationally,
now we know domestically the issues that a president has

(57:55):
to deal with.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
It says, but you still need a leader. People say, well,
you just get the right people around you.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
You know what I mean. It takes more than that.
And the ones that kill me are the ones that saying, well,
we need a woman president. I t and I go,
wait a minute, So you've got a potential war in
Southeast Asia, Taiwan and China. China would invade Taiwan as
soon as they realized that there's not a guy like
Trump who is unpredictable because he, like he said before,

(58:25):
I'm not gonna tell him what I'm planning. They will
if you, if you vote for her and you put
her in the White House, you better be ready to
sign off ten years if you have teenagers or children,
because they're.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Going to be in the war. That's how long it
takes for the war to get over. I tell it,
it's no joke.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
And another thing, the pressure of that office impacts not
just US Americans, but the globe in general. As much
as people may say things about Trump, do you know
why the Europeans like it? Because he lost his country
and guess what you peace? And now I'm looking into
this whole immigration process in their countries and looking at

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what Trump did and trying to, you know, obstruct some
of Trump's ideas to impart them in their policies and
their countries. So if you take, if you I've watched
her interviews, what the public sees as novelty to me
is deja view, and it concerns me because, like I said,

(59:24):
I'm not being negative. I don't think we should be
trashing anybody. But let's be objective because the officer president
of the United States of America.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Yes, it's not a popularity.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Come absolutely absolutely. I mean, what do you, doctor Zama,
what do you make You heard all the jokes about
her drinking and stuff. Do you do you see anything
like that when you're dating? Do you have a problem drinking?
Do you think?

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Yeah? Well, put it this way.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Sometimes people only expose a little bit to you, but
oftentimes a tip of the iceberg is just a the
festation or demonstration of something bigger beneath.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
So you think, so, do you think she drinks too much?

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Well? I'm not sure, but some of the I'm a
little bit concerned about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
When you're preparing your running for office and you're asked
simple questions yes and listed spontaneous responses.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
You don't have to be a rocket scientist, you understand.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Yes, I mean, doctor Zamba, That's what I was saying.
That's what I was saying, Like like everyone, like the
left was so mad at Brett Bayer yesterday. I was like,
these are just you ran for office at a high level.
These are just basic questions and she can't answer them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
You couldn't have a too great education.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
And if they asked you a question about issues that
truly resonate in your your answer is natural, your answers honest,
your answers spontaneous, and your inability to come up with that, Well,
the questions life to a president of the United States
and not the simplistic ones that you and I ask

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for candidate. And if you see that, that may be
just a symptom of a greater malady. And guess what,
the ones that support that may wind up having to
hold the basket.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Wow, doctor Zama, let me ask you another question. Let's
shift gears to medicine, which I mean, we're kind of
all over the map here, but like you, what do
you make People in the chat are asking, like, what
do you make about the way that woke ideology is
crept into pediatrics into medicine and you know, uh, the

(01:01:37):
trans kids like diversity, equity and inclusion. How do you
feel about all that and how does it impact the
medical community.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Well, let me tell you for those of you who
may not be aware of if you there was an
article that was published and so I decided after the
election that I was going to be involved in many ways,
and I contributed to some degree to the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Issues of diversity, equity and inclusion.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I believe that many of those policies that were crafted
years ago have come to hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
The very ones that were supposed to be the beneficiary. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
And if you see an article here in New York Posts,
I don't know if you can see that, and it's
a New York Posts if you google it and it
says why this African born surgeon helped defeat unfair DEI.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
A top medical school. Is that is that you? Are? You?

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
The African surgeon, the one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
A lot of people don't know when it came crashing
down last year, how I was involved. I traveled to
North Carolina and spoke at Duke, spoke at the University
of North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Remember there were.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Two test schools, Harvard in University of North Carolina. And
I worked with another gentleman, Kenny Zoo, that you've heard about.
You read the article, you will see now. I got
some hate mail, but a lot of people who didn't
know who I was wrote back and said, this is good.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
On any day, at any level by any criteria excellence.
Trump's diversity.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Wow, if I'm looking at my children and they go,
what's more important to you? Diversity of excellent excellence?

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
I said, there's no diversity, no affirmative action in global commerce.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
We're living in a challenging world. Now we should be
telling our kids the only banner you carry is a
banner of excellence.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
And so you can't take children who Now I haven't
heard Kamala Harris or Joe Biden address the educational system
head on like was doing, because you got to start
at the roof cause of it. You can't take children
with a deficient, with an educational deficit, get them a

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spot in medical school or college where they are not qualified.
It is not by merit, because you seek to meet
a certain quarter.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
That's not fair to the kid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
When I was in medical school, let me confess to you,
I just said, tutor, and some of those students, they're brilliant,
they're smart, but they just didn't have the background.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
And they got them in medical school.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Many of them flunked out, not because they didn't have
the rudimentary intelligence, the fundamental intelligence. They were diversity, they
were equity, they were affirmative action.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Students, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
And so if you want to go to a doctor,
how do you feel if your doctor is a doctor
who got into there, got the medical school, got trained,
and was pushed through the ranks because you had to
meet a gender or racial court. I said, it's not
fair to the individuals, and a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Them will tell you that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
So I'm saying, I want to transform the educational system.
I want to make our children competitive. I want to
tell them that we're all human beings. The whole racial
concept is created by humans. There's only one race really.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
And they're different tribes, whether you're a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Nordic tribe or an African tripe, or you're an Irish tribe.
I said, but we're all Americans at the end of
the day, and that I want the children to carry
banners of excellent. I want to strive hard to contribute
to this society, to mike something better off myself because
educational determinism, you know what it does. It actually, it

(01:05:48):
uplifts you as an individual. It addresses many of the
ills that we are grappling with. Housing issue, the judicial system,
health access, oh, the health system.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
For those individuals, I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Don't see this administration doing that, and so they're paying
lip service to it. And that's why many minorities in
the last election moved in draves and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Droves towards at the Trump camp. And this year it's
been a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
So Obama you heard him talking recently trying to get
men to support Kamela.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
And most of them are saying no.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I'm not saying well, I'm saying the vast majority of them,
over sixty percent at least the statistics powers, are saying no, enough.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Of this stuff. Who've been fooled long enough.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Hispanic men, minorities, they're going for Trump, and even the
African American women, Expanic women and others.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
It's because they've failed these communities.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
And another thing, they're promoting sex change in our children.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Yes, I want to tell people this, my brothers and sisters.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
I was just overseas and I have a huge spot
in my heart for children, and I think we've betrayed
them this leadership. And I'm saying some members of the
Democratic Party because not all of them believe in this crowd.
Because we're turning perfectly healthy children into lifelong patients, we're

(01:07:18):
inductrinating them. That they can change their sex. Sex is biology?
Are we crazy? Have we lost our minds? If you
cut off your penis, or remove your vagina, or inject
yourself with hormones, that does not change the DNA that
God put inside you. And you know now why so

(01:07:41):
many African Americans are disenchanted because of their religious beliefs that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
You can just open the door and says it's a
free for all.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Determine your own sex, determine your own gender, This, that,
and the other.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
First of all is not biologically realistic.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
But we're try to embrace a farhood falsehood and then
propagate it as well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Now you see why I'm disenchanted.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
I have been for a long time with this administration,
and I'm just a reflection microposm of what's happening out there.
So we gotta go out in droves and send a
radical message to America.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
And not just to America, to the world. Which she
went to Africa.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Kamala Harris, and she was preaching not gender equality, which
I embraced, gender e posy, but respectful.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Sexual devanccene.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Think about it that people should embrace a child in
Uganda who decides to be a boy who decides to
be a girl. She got chased out of there because
they're saying, what heresy is this?

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
This is not the Bible?

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Is this the message we want to be receiving from America?
I thot it was more advanced than that. This is
certain type of leadership that this nation needs.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
You understand. Yes, Trump called them shiphole countries.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
They're kind of They realized that because some of their
leaders are not worth you know, being in leadership, they
understood that they could trust him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Now can you trust her?

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Well, that's a question for the individual, and the decisions
you make a couple of weeks will resonate whatever way
possitive for negatively for years to come.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Doctor Zama, you are I'm going to tell you something.
You to me like, look, this is just me talking,
But I think you need to be either a very
close advisor to President Trump, working with you know, RFK
Junior and making America healthy again, being somebody is involved
in the Trump administration in some way. I mean, if

(01:09:59):
if you got to ask to do something like that,
would you say yes, I would love to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
But you know, the access to barriers to entry, as
you know, become a lot more difficult for some of
the political feet.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Yeah, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
I was actually in Amsterdam and when they had the
debate and I sent some pointers to someone I don't know.
They got the trumble and I got you know, I
just wish I had a chance to you know, his
heart is good.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Remember Trump is the said, the first first individual to
support you know, Jesse Jackson when he ran for president.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
I know, I know, racist.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Every major black leader was kissing his ring and hugging
and him being on TV giving him a words for humanitarianism,
Oprah and the rest of them, and all this hypocrisy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Drives you and I and all of us crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Why is all of a sudden it's this guy being
demonized and that Actually, if you're a critical thinker, you
should step back and stay away a minute. The Democratic
Party has been a plantation. They've used many people. Let's
talk about minorities in particular for what they're forced. Their
lives haven't been uplifted. Only three percent of black kids

(01:11:19):
graduating from high school have met a minimal requirement in
the sciences, in the stem science, you know, technology engineering,
they're not.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Prepared, and yet you're pushing quarters in industry. It's not
fair to them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
You know, it's like you have cancer and somebody gives
you an aspray. No, you need radical surgery from what's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Doing well, Doctor Zama. Tell tell you know, we have
thousands of people that listen to the show and watch
the show. Tell them all right now, how they before
before we let you go, how they can support you,
and where they can find you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
I can be reached oftentimes now in social media people
see the Doctor z minutes. And actually, by the way,
I started a company about a year ago producing premium,
scientifically proven nutritional supplements, and it's one of the reasons
I was actually meeting with the leadership in Finland because

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they're interested in getting the products in the country. Ninety
percent of your supplements out there do not contain what
the labels proclaim. And I set up especially when I
read out of a Philadelphia newspaper that over ninety percent
of pre nail vitamins don't even contain what they're supposed
to be. And I said, pre Nail, that's really close

(01:12:48):
to my heart. That's when I lost my mouth. So
I set out to design supplements. And there are many
of you out there listening who are already taken them
to address it's preventive medicine.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
A lot of oh to prevent a lot of the
ills that are so prevalent in our society. And that's
been keeping me busy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
And the company is Miami Mack's Life and Miami obviously
because it concious images of better life, better living and vivacity.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
So that's what I've been doing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Tell us again.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Miami Max's Life.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
So if you google miamimaslife dot com you will see
those parts. I would there say they're the purest products
out of the market. And it's the only supplement company that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Has a third party that independently and analyzes them for
content and the results have come out one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
I have a PhD in chemistry, so partnership with the
three guys Alahomad Medical School and two guys at Columbia
to produce this, and we're all over the world people
who are looking to lift healthier lives, you know, more
productive lives and you know it's endless wellness really coming
to Miami Mac's Life now to get get out of profit.

(01:13:58):
So that's what's kept me busy. But if people want
to reach me, you can actually send a message through
Miami Max's Life. You both did intead a message to
me or on Facebook. I'm doctor Z minutes. In one word,
doctor d R and Z minutes. I have a show
that just talking about human health, how to take better
care of yourself, and debunking a lot of the nonsense

(01:14:21):
and jump out there from Lton's who are not experts,
but who are very convincing in their words. I want
people to be healthier because I believe that having a
healthier body and taking control of your unhealth puts you
in a better position to take care of yourself and others.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
God, doctor Sama, you are awesome, my friend. Thank you
so much for joining us, and I would love, love,
love to have you back at some point in the future.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
My pleasure, my pleasure always fun, and I look forward
to seeing you again soon.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Yeah, absolutely, Doctor Samma, thank you, and remember, members of
the battle Crew, go out and get Miami Max Life
like go check it out, go buy his product, Go
support this patriot. He's he's a great American patriot and
we're very lucky to have him here on the show. Yep,
So everyone support him, all right, folks, And the Democrats

(01:15:20):
really are in a rough place right now. I feel
like they're divided. They're certainly struggling here in the great
state of Pennsylvania, and otherwise they wouldn't be leaking stuff
to the media about how their campaign is dysfunctional and
starting to point fingers. But for us, we just have
to make sure that we execute. We have to make
sure that we sprint to the finish. You know, as

(01:15:43):
doctor Zama said, Hey, look, doesn't matter where we come from,
or what color your skin is, or what God you worship,
We're all Americans. And if you love this country and
you and you want to preserve it for our children
and our children's children, you know, we have to fight
for it. You know, freedom wasn't passed to us in
the bloodstream from one generation to the next. As Ronald
Reagan said, you have to actually fight for it, rise

(01:16:03):
up and fight for it. And that time, folks, is
right now. We've got nineteen days until election Day. Is
the most important election of our lifetime. And believe me,
I have a run for political office twice. People say
that all the time, but I really believe that now.
You know, I believe that, you know, if we lose
this thing, and look, I think if we show up.
We're going to win. But if Kamala Harris somehow wins

(01:16:26):
and finds her way into the White House, I shudder
to think what America will look like over the next
several generations. It will like I'm here to stay to
fight to fix this country and the eventual if God
forbid something like that that happens, and never give up
on America. But the damage that she will do to
this country is extraordinary. So we have to fight for it.

(01:16:48):
And so in nineteen days, sprint to the finish campaign
like we're ten points down. Also want to thank Jen
for the rumble rant, Tip and rad Askur. Thank you
all very much. One hundred percent of what we get
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(01:17:31):
week has gone as fast as it has, but here
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good night, and I will see you tomorrow