December 16, 2025 • 20 mins
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OAN’s Pentagon correspondent Gabrielle Cuccia joins Buck Sexton to break down the unexplained use of Biden’s autopen to sign executive orders, the $1 trillion defense budget, and where that money is really going. Plus, they discuss the two Navy jets lost from the USS Truman—and why that matters.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio
app or wherever you get your podcasts. Were there a
bunch of executive orders signed by Biden that are invalid
and it involves an autopen A lot of discussions to
be had about this, but also the transband inside of
the Pentagon, the Hohofy's Trump, so many things to dive into.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Gabby Kucia is with us once again.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
She is the Pentagon oaan correspondent and she comes to
us now from inside of the studio that she operates in,
but not in fact from the Pentagon, but she covers
the Pentagon every day.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
What's good?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Do I need to call? Secretary Hegseth? How come you're
not set up yet inside the Pentagon? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Correction? I am this is actually the first time, Buck,
you're the exclusive.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
This is the first time that we are.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Phis Okay you are yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
We're in the Pentagon building with Wi Fi as of
this week, of which it usually takes at a minimum
three months apparently to get any service when you come
into the Pentagon.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But there's reporters that don't.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Have Internet access that haven't had it for like over
a year, just in certain parts of the press core
wing so pretty wild. Usually I just run outside and
report my news from the outdoors.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
But we're inside. This is insider. Look, we're almost done.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
How is the food in the Pentagon. I've never been
to the Pentagon, you know, I've I've worked in Langley
for years. Never I went to all of the White House, Congress,
don't you different, Intel, Intel Agency buildings. Never went to
the Pentagon.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Well, listen, Buck, haven't you you know this doesn't the CIA.
The CIA always has the best food, the best ye
Lot cafeteria.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
That stuff still stands.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
But I will say the Pentagon Pentagon slaps when it
comes to the food because I worked at the White House,
you know, so like I saw the cafeteria, I see
the Capitol Hill Cafeteria. Pentagon Cafetia is pretty good. The
IA one is definitely still number one. But yeah, they
got a courtyard. Actually, funny funny fact about the courtyard.
It used to there's in the middle of the courtyard
(02:21):
is a pot bellies now, but it used to be
a hot dog stand and back in like the nineties,
I believe it was the nineties eighties or nineties, Russia
was trying to do surveillance on the Pentagon and they
thought that this hot dog stand was They didn't know
it was a hot dog stand. They thought it was
some sort of like secret part of the Pentagon that
no one knew about. And so then Peegon officials drew
a bull's eye on top of the hot dog stands
(02:43):
and let Russia know it was in fact a hot
dog stand.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Anyway, there's that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, Langley, we used to I used to get like pressed,
fresh pressed panini and with my cappuccino. You know, it
was a very I'm big serious by the way, like
they actually had pretty good, pretty good food over there.
I hope that internet works, considering that you're at the
institution that has the biggest military budget on the planet,
so hopefully the internet can stay.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, they're moving. They're bumping up, which I'm sure you've
talked about this already. It's true, around nine hundred billion
spending and now they're bumping it up to one trillion,
which I imagine that a lot of that has to
do with the.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Golden Dome at a minimum, but.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
They do have DoD does have some questions that need
to be answered, considering that the f eighteens of the
USS Truman, two of which over the last week have
been lost.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
What's the Golden Dome?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The Golden Dome, you know, the Golden Dome.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It's similar, of course to the Iron Dome in which
we are anticipating that the dog is going to roll out.
I believe it's by twenty twenty seven. The end of
twenty twenty seven, they will have hopefully some sort of
final beta testing for infrastructure to intercept any sort of
missiles or any threats via satellite imagery to be able
(03:56):
to knock down.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Just very similar to the Iron Dome of Israel. And
you know with the Iron Dome, and I'm sure people
know this.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I know that you know this book, but we talk
about the Iron Dome a lot, especially this past week
considering that the foot were able to reach the Iron
Dome Israel saying that there was some sort of technical
failure and they're doing an investigation. But the failure piece
was we have our THAD missiles and our Patriot batteries
(04:25):
that are being utilized. We just gave a second one
recently of literally about a month ago to the date
to Israel, and that portion appeared to have some sort
of malfunction to they were able to detect that missile
coming on through the Iron Dome, but weren't able to
actually respond and intercept it, which is pretty wild considering
the damage that was done.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So hopefully you are something of an autopen expert and
you can tell everybody why that is. And you think
that there's a very good chance that the autopen was
being used in the latter part of Biden's administration, let's say,
perhaps particularly his final year.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Why and what would that mean?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah? Absolutely, so, Yeah, I worked at the Executive Clerk's office.
It's one of the oldest office of the executive branch
and of which those people do not change per administration.
So and before I even worked there, when I was
working in the IT department, I service that office very
regularly during the Obama administration. So I've seen the autopen,
I know how it works, and then utilized it myself
(05:30):
when I was an executive clerk. But it's not even
the last year, I think is where the media was
hyper fixated on whether or not Biden had this cognitive decline.
I mean there's people, I mean, our former reporter here
at Oaan was doing a full special about Biden's decline
mentally well before the media was even talking about that
in the beginning of the administration, So I'm actually saying
(05:52):
he utilized the autopen from the beginning of his administration
all four years. When you look at those signatures, that
autopen signature gets updated and reflective of the most current signature.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Over time.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
People's hands can get a little bit shakier as they
get older or whatever it is they decide to like
add a I don't know, like a little star or
an asterisk over some sort of letter in their name.
Like signatures can change naturally over time, the autopen will
reflect any changes. The autopen was never changed. And the
signature of Joe Biden, the alleged signature, right, the authentic one,
(06:23):
never changed either. Majority of those executive orders within those
four years never had any ounce of squiggle or a
mess for that shows an authentic signature. And I'm sure
being at the CIA right like you see human signature collection.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So being able to discern signatures in and of itself
is it's.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Not that it's it's pretty easy, but someone probably with
your background you could look at that and go Okay, yeah,
that appears to be machinery, especially when it's identical. So
being understanding the autopen and from my perspective from being
in that office, those signatures are mostly autopen. And when
you talk about who has the authority over that, the execus,
(07:04):
I'm not blaming the executive Clerk's office at all. Again,
they've retained historically they are part of an email thread
from the beginning of time for any ounce of document
that requires presidential authority, presidential signature, so most commonly would
be say your executive orders, your proclamations, your memos, disaster declarations,
whatever it may be, you see those from start to finish.
(07:26):
I saw those from start to finish, so from the
drafts to General Counsel being involved and putting in their
two cents, from National Security Council if they're necessary to
be involved, or any other agencies as well. You see
all of those additions from start to finish. At the
very end, the staff Secretary, So that's who the executive
clerks answer to directly. They are given in this email
(07:47):
thread that the very last bless off the words ready
for ap ready for autopen, and that comes from the
main staff secretary When that happens, you print the document
off nice White House bond paper, and you bring it
up to records management, who actually manns the autopen, put
the document under there, watch the signature, go give it
to the West Wing, and that's it. We make a
(08:10):
press release and then that's when everybody knows. And especially
in Biden's case, because compared to say President Trump in
his first term and certainly in the second term, he's
signing everything in person, the press releases are being done,
but press is knowing simultaneously. Not the case during Biden.
Those press releases were going out because there was hardly
any coverage of live in person signature anyways. Point being
(08:30):
GOP oversight, lots of Republicans hyper focused back at the
end of the term saying was Biden fully aware of
the things that he was signing, and saying that they're
going to do an investigation and using taxpayer funded resources.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I would just.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Say every ounce of anything that President Biden at that
time had ever signed was completely stored in email traffic
from the White House Microsoft Outlook account. So it's all there,
and if you wanted to even look and question anyone
at any given time, you would look at the Staff Secretary,
(09:06):
of which there were three. You had near a tandent,
you had Stephanie Feldman, and you had Jessica Hurtz.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You had three.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And that's all you need to do is look at them,
question and evaluate the email chain for every single thing
that utilized the autopen because it has to be recorded.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
The executive clerks.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Would never ever put out a presidential signature on autopen
without the direct authority from the Staff Secretary.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
That's their main job.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That was the deepest dive on autopen I have ever
heard or experienced. So that is a very interesting background.
Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
We're let's talk here in a second about it's basically
a lot of Biden executive orders. Might it might be
totally null and void, but we'll see if that can
ever be proven. So Trump said that the Hoothies are
going to stop attacking ships.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
What can you tell us about what's going on with this?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, I think that came to a surprise from everybody
because especially with me covering the DoD, I mean that
was we entered into day fifty one starting on Monday,
of daily air precision strikes against the hoo Thies in
the Red Sea, specifically per us EOD. Right, and we
know all these rapid response accounts are very active online
(10:19):
and it has been a constant we will not stop
until they stop, right. I found it really surprising watching
President Trump in the Oval Office talk about this, because
the main crux of the reasoning or directing the DoD
to withhold and refrain from any further engagement with the
Houthis in the Red Sea was that the quote being
(10:42):
we need to take their word for it. I will
take their word for it. I'll take the word of
the Hoothies for it. But then you saw immediately after
that you had personnel from the Hoothis spokespeople or spokesman
from the Houthies directly saying that they're denying all the
accounts of any sort of agreement. But it's a dicey situation, right,
because even if there is a refrain in the Red Sea,
(11:05):
between the WHO and the UK super involved with all
the bombers that we bring into Diego Garcia, for your viewers,
that's a joint base between the US and the UK.
We have all of these assets that are pre set
in stage to act beyond just these air precision strikes.
So you have that one element that's happening in the
Red Sea. Then the other element being like we talked
(11:26):
about earlier when we first started speaking to each other,
was talking about the Iron Dome being infiltrated by a
hoothy strike. Right, So it's dicey because you're we're saying
the United States postures itself to be an ally of
Israel and wanting the HOUTHIS to stop any strikes or
(11:47):
aggression towards Israel. But at the same rate, do we
like kind of pick and choose our wins or our
losses here and be happy that maybe the Red Sea
is actually absolved. I mean, Iran has a really terrible economy,
and that is one of the reasons why China is
a huge fund huge funder to the houthis to include
(12:12):
satcom satellite imagery or the houthis to actually execute their
strikes because Iran's capabilities are just like they're.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Just not a match for China.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So that's kind of the latest and was news to
everyone in that moment at the Oval office yesterday. I
will say we do get, which I appreciated, since yesterday
the Pentagon gave us a full fledged rolodex of foreign
news networks, and so I was looking at Yemen, I
was looking at Iran and parsing out what they were
(12:44):
trying to say via Google Translate. They were confirming that
Oman was the mediator between these conversations alleged conversations between
the United States and the Houthis.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
So I think this is more of a time we'll.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Tell, but a stark, huge pivot from what we've been saying.
What the DoD has been saying since since mid March.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Is that the single biggest thing right now that's on
in terms of conflict, the dood radar or do od
radar or is India Pakistan something that everyone just thinks
is going to be contained.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
So the defense officials haven't been super aggressive on formally
saying too much when it comes to India and Pakistan.
And you know this, like traditionally, the DoD is never
going to get ahead of anything that President Trump says,
if anyone, it's been more of Trump and Marco Rubio
being the loudest in the arena when it comes to
(13:40):
just US agencies talking about Pakistan and India. But there
is this element of you have these two nuclear forces
and neither I'm almost looking at it in a sense
of in this arena, a lot of these countries, to
the US to be included, are stretched a little thin
when it comes to denuclearization or any other further escalations.
(14:02):
When you have what's going on between Ukraine and Russia,
but you have what's going on in Gaza, and then
of course all these these ongoing conversations, which again that
deadline for Iran to denuclearize, that deadline has far pasted
at this point. So there's a lot of unknowns, and
it doesn't bode well for any party, right, because you
have India, you know, the United States aligning a lot
(14:23):
more with India, right considering our history, especially because Mody
is such an ally with President Trump. But then on
the other end, you have China Beijing, both of which
US and China have been mimicking the same thing, saying
that they would call for a de escalation. But I mean,
since nineteen forty seven, there's been what been three wars
(14:43):
between the two, They've had constant escalation. I do find
it interesting that it's happening now at a time where
there's again these other other forces, because again, this has
always been an ongoing thing between India and Pakistan I
will say I can't imagine it going much further considering
that the day being today May seventh, India announces their
(15:06):
operation against Pakistan and allegedly loses Pakistan, saying they took
down five aircraft. Other outlets British officials were saying about
two could be three. So you lose that many aircraft
within twenty less than twenty four hours of announcing your
operation strikes. At the same time is constantly saying and
(15:28):
reiterating over and over again, hey, we're doing this in
retaliation of that April twenty second terror attack and nothing more,
versus saying that we kind we want to completely and
indefinitely deter and eliminate Pakistan or terrorists within Pakistan right
like that is significantly different than what we see, say
(15:50):
in Iran, in Gaza, or even between Ukraine and Russia.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
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what is the latest on what's going on in the Pentagon?
I know that the court has now ruled in favor of
the Trump administration and Secretary Hag sets moves, But just telebody,
what was the trans ban is what people are calling
(17:21):
it in the military. You know, has it gone into
effect and what happens now?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, absolutely so it did go into effect.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
And this was one of the first big memos that
hag Set had rolled out about two months ago at
this point, and there was a lot of noise. People
defiant in the sense that basically what this is watering
it down is that if you are transgender fully medical, mental,
all of those evaluations transgender, you are not fit to serve.
(17:49):
You're not fit to serve in combat locations. You're not deployable.
That's the keyword, right, deployable. And it comes down to
very simply outside of any of this, no different than
whether or not you're medically compliant, is that you if
you're not medically compliance, case closes, it's over. And then
there's also that element of operationally, if you were to
be on a deployment and needed to be in contact with,
(18:11):
say your medical provider, have medications, have a psychiatrist, of
which most transgenders do, no matter what part of the
transition they are in, that already is a security threat
in and of itself. You can't just have an open
line or have open access or a full on supply
for however long you need. When it comes to certain medications,
(18:33):
all that type of stuff needs to be cleared for
whatever deployment you're going on. So this is no different
and very much in compliant on the medical side for
the military. Well before any of this was kind of
rolled back, and it was all rolled back during the
Biden administration in which they allowed for a transgender So
it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Going back to we're gonna cut the fat.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
If you're not deployable, then we're not You're not employable either,
because other than that, if you're not going on these
trips or these assignments or tasking orders, then you're sitting
at a desk instead or being given some sort of
other job to fulfill in the interim of the rest
of your unit going on missions. So this is kind
(19:18):
of this is good news. This is good news. It's
completely compatible. I mean, this is no different than you
want to run it back for a hot second. This
is no different than say during uh I mean actually
it's very different. But this the crux of it being
like the CIA, for example, the military did it, all
the agencies did it. You're undeployable if you didn't get
the COVID vaccine.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Now that's like was was Buck Wilde.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Literally, But if that's how they determine deployability, then okay,
like it's wrong if anyone, but like, okay, but this
is like purely because they thought it was like a
real you know, not a plandemic.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It was a real issue. Sure, but if you crack
at what.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I'm saying, maybe not maybe I get you. I get
I get what you're putting down. Yeah, thank you, I
believe it.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We gotta leave it there for today, but people can
go watch your latest reporting, Miss Gabrielle Kucia at One
America News.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
She us their PA A gone correspondent. Gryelle, thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Thanks appreciate you
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio
app or wherever you get your podcasts. Were there a
bunch of executive orders signed by Biden that are invalid
and it involves an autopen A lot of discussions to
be had about this, but also the transband inside of
the Pentagon, the Hohofy's Trump, so many things to dive into.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Gabby Kucia is with us once again.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
She is the Pentagon oaan correspondent and she comes to
us now from inside of the studio that she operates in,
but not in fact from the Pentagon, but she covers
the Pentagon every day.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
What's good?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Do I need to call? Secretary Hegseth? How come you're
not set up yet inside the Pentagon? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Correction? I am this is actually the first time, Buck,
you're the exclusive.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
This is the first time that we are.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Phis Okay you are yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
We're in the Pentagon building with Wi Fi as of
this week, of which it usually takes at a minimum
three months apparently to get any service when you come
into the Pentagon.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But there's reporters that don't.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Have Internet access that haven't had it for like over
a year, just in certain parts of the press core
wing so pretty wild. Usually I just run outside and
report my news from the outdoors.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
But we're inside. This is insider. Look, we're almost done.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
How is the food in the Pentagon. I've never been
to the Pentagon, you know, I've I've worked in Langley
for years. Never I went to all of the White House, Congress,
don't you different, Intel, Intel Agency buildings. Never went to
the Pentagon.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Well, listen, Buck, haven't you you know this doesn't the CIA.
The CIA always has the best food, the best ye
Lot cafeteria.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
That stuff still stands.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
But I will say the Pentagon Pentagon slaps when it
comes to the food because I worked at the White House,
you know, so like I saw the cafeteria, I see
the Capitol Hill Cafeteria. Pentagon Cafetia is pretty good. The
IA one is definitely still number one. But yeah, they
got a courtyard. Actually, funny funny fact about the courtyard.
It used to there's in the middle of the courtyard
(02:21):
is a pot bellies now, but it used to be
a hot dog stand and back in like the nineties,
I believe it was the nineties eighties or nineties, Russia
was trying to do surveillance on the Pentagon and they
thought that this hot dog stand was They didn't know
it was a hot dog stand. They thought it was
some sort of like secret part of the Pentagon that
no one knew about. And so then Peegon officials drew
a bull's eye on top of the hot dog stands
(02:43):
and let Russia know it was in fact a hot
dog stand.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Anyway, there's that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, Langley, we used to I used to get like pressed,
fresh pressed panini and with my cappuccino. You know, it
was a very I'm big serious by the way, like
they actually had pretty good, pretty good food over there.
I hope that internet works, considering that you're at the
institution that has the biggest military budget on the planet,
so hopefully the internet can stay.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, they're moving. They're bumping up, which I'm sure you've
talked about this already. It's true, around nine hundred billion
spending and now they're bumping it up to one trillion,
which I imagine that a lot of that has to
do with the.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Golden Dome at a minimum, but.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
They do have DoD does have some questions that need
to be answered, considering that the f eighteens of the
USS Truman, two of which over the last week have
been lost.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
What's the Golden Dome?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The Golden Dome, you know, the Golden Dome.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It's similar, of course to the Iron Dome in which
we are anticipating that the dog is going to roll out.
I believe it's by twenty twenty seven. The end of
twenty twenty seven, they will have hopefully some sort of
final beta testing for infrastructure to intercept any sort of
missiles or any threats via satellite imagery to be able
(03:56):
to knock down.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Just very similar to the Iron Dome of Israel. And
you know with the Iron Dome, and I'm sure people
know this.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I know that you know this book, but we talk
about the Iron Dome a lot, especially this past week
considering that the foot were able to reach the Iron
Dome Israel saying that there was some sort of technical
failure and they're doing an investigation. But the failure piece
was we have our THAD missiles and our Patriot batteries
(04:25):
that are being utilized. We just gave a second one
recently of literally about a month ago to the date
to Israel, and that portion appeared to have some sort
of malfunction to they were able to detect that missile
coming on through the Iron Dome, but weren't able to
actually respond and intercept it, which is pretty wild considering
the damage that was done.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So hopefully you are something of an autopen expert and
you can tell everybody why that is. And you think
that there's a very good chance that the autopen was
being used in the latter part of Biden's administration, let's say,
perhaps particularly his final year.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Why and what would that mean?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah? Absolutely, so, Yeah, I worked at the Executive Clerk's office.
It's one of the oldest office of the executive branch
and of which those people do not change per administration.
So and before I even worked there, when I was
working in the IT department, I service that office very
regularly during the Obama administration. So I've seen the autopen,
I know how it works, and then utilized it myself
(05:30):
when I was an executive clerk. But it's not even
the last year, I think is where the media was
hyper fixated on whether or not Biden had this cognitive decline.
I mean there's people, I mean, our former reporter here
at Oaan was doing a full special about Biden's decline
mentally well before the media was even talking about that
in the beginning of the administration, So I'm actually saying
(05:52):
he utilized the autopen from the beginning of his administration
all four years. When you look at those signatures, that
autopen signature gets updated and reflective of the most current signature.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Over time.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
People's hands can get a little bit shakier as they
get older or whatever it is they decide to like
add a I don't know, like a little star or
an asterisk over some sort of letter in their name.
Like signatures can change naturally over time, the autopen will
reflect any changes. The autopen was never changed. And the
signature of Joe Biden, the alleged signature, right, the authentic one,
(06:23):
never changed either. Majority of those executive orders within those
four years never had any ounce of squiggle or a
mess for that shows an authentic signature. And I'm sure
being at the CIA right like you see human signature collection.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So being able to discern signatures in and of itself
is it's.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Not that it's it's pretty easy, but someone probably with
your background you could look at that and go Okay, yeah,
that appears to be machinery, especially when it's identical. So
being understanding the autopen and from my perspective from being
in that office, those signatures are mostly autopen. And when
you talk about who has the authority over that, the execus,
(07:04):
I'm not blaming the executive Clerk's office at all. Again,
they've retained historically they are part of an email thread
from the beginning of time for any ounce of document
that requires presidential authority, presidential signature, so most commonly would
be say your executive orders, your proclamations, your memos, disaster declarations,
whatever it may be, you see those from start to finish.
(07:26):
I saw those from start to finish, so from the
drafts to General Counsel being involved and putting in their
two cents, from National Security Council if they're necessary to
be involved, or any other agencies as well. You see
all of those additions from start to finish. At the
very end, the staff Secretary, So that's who the executive
clerks answer to directly. They are given in this email
(07:47):
thread that the very last bless off the words ready
for ap ready for autopen, and that comes from the
main staff secretary When that happens, you print the document
off nice White House bond paper, and you bring it
up to records management, who actually manns the autopen, put
the document under there, watch the signature, go give it
to the West Wing, and that's it. We make a
(08:10):
press release and then that's when everybody knows. And especially
in Biden's case, because compared to say President Trump in
his first term and certainly in the second term, he's
signing everything in person, the press releases are being done,
but press is knowing simultaneously. Not the case during Biden.
Those press releases were going out because there was hardly
any coverage of live in person signature anyways. Point being
(08:30):
GOP oversight, lots of Republicans hyper focused back at the
end of the term saying was Biden fully aware of
the things that he was signing, and saying that they're
going to do an investigation and using taxpayer funded resources.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I would just.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Say every ounce of anything that President Biden at that
time had ever signed was completely stored in email traffic
from the White House Microsoft Outlook account. So it's all there,
and if you wanted to even look and question anyone
at any given time, you would look at the Staff Secretary,
(09:06):
of which there were three. You had near a tandent,
you had Stephanie Feldman, and you had Jessica Hurtz.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You had three.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And that's all you need to do is look at them,
question and evaluate the email chain for every single thing
that utilized the autopen because it has to be recorded.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
The executive clerks.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Would never ever put out a presidential signature on autopen
without the direct authority from the Staff Secretary.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
That's their main job.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That was the deepest dive on autopen I have ever
heard or experienced. So that is a very interesting background.
Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
We're let's talk here in a second about it's basically
a lot of Biden executive orders. Might it might be
totally null and void, but we'll see if that can
ever be proven. So Trump said that the Hoothies are
going to stop attacking ships.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
What can you tell us about what's going on with this?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, I think that came to a surprise from everybody
because especially with me covering the DoD, I mean that
was we entered into day fifty one starting on Monday,
of daily air precision strikes against the hoo Thies in
the Red Sea, specifically per us EOD. Right, and we
know all these rapid response accounts are very active online
(10:19):
and it has been a constant we will not stop
until they stop, right. I found it really surprising watching
President Trump in the Oval Office talk about this, because
the main crux of the reasoning or directing the DoD
to withhold and refrain from any further engagement with the
Houthis in the Red Sea was that the quote being
(10:42):
we need to take their word for it. I will
take their word for it. I'll take the word of
the Hoothies for it. But then you saw immediately after
that you had personnel from the Hoothis spokespeople or spokesman
from the Houthies directly saying that they're denying all the
accounts of any sort of agreement. But it's a dicey situation, right,
because even if there is a refrain in the Red Sea,
(11:05):
between the WHO and the UK super involved with all
the bombers that we bring into Diego Garcia, for your viewers,
that's a joint base between the US and the UK.
We have all of these assets that are pre set
in stage to act beyond just these air precision strikes.
So you have that one element that's happening in the
Red Sea. Then the other element being like we talked
(11:26):
about earlier when we first started speaking to each other,
was talking about the Iron Dome being infiltrated by a
hoothy strike. Right, So it's dicey because you're we're saying
the United States postures itself to be an ally of
Israel and wanting the HOUTHIS to stop any strikes or
(11:47):
aggression towards Israel. But at the same rate, do we
like kind of pick and choose our wins or our
losses here and be happy that maybe the Red Sea
is actually absolved. I mean, Iran has a really terrible economy,
and that is one of the reasons why China is
a huge fund huge funder to the houthis to include
(12:12):
satcom satellite imagery or the houthis to actually execute their
strikes because Iran's capabilities are just like they're.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Just not a match for China.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So that's kind of the latest and was news to
everyone in that moment at the Oval office yesterday. I
will say we do get, which I appreciated, since yesterday
the Pentagon gave us a full fledged rolodex of foreign
news networks, and so I was looking at Yemen, I
was looking at Iran and parsing out what they were
(12:44):
trying to say via Google Translate. They were confirming that
Oman was the mediator between these conversations alleged conversations between
the United States and the Houthis.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
So I think this is more of a time we'll.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Tell, but a stark, huge pivot from what we've been saying.
What the DoD has been saying since since mid March.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Is that the single biggest thing right now that's on
in terms of conflict, the dood radar or do od
radar or is India Pakistan something that everyone just thinks
is going to be contained.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
So the defense officials haven't been super aggressive on formally
saying too much when it comes to India and Pakistan.
And you know this, like traditionally, the DoD is never
going to get ahead of anything that President Trump says,
if anyone, it's been more of Trump and Marco Rubio
being the loudest in the arena when it comes to
(13:40):
just US agencies talking about Pakistan and India. But there
is this element of you have these two nuclear forces
and neither I'm almost looking at it in a sense
of in this arena, a lot of these countries, to
the US to be included, are stretched a little thin
when it comes to denuclearization or any other further escalations.
(14:02):
When you have what's going on between Ukraine and Russia,
but you have what's going on in Gaza, and then
of course all these these ongoing conversations, which again that
deadline for Iran to denuclearize, that deadline has far pasted
at this point. So there's a lot of unknowns, and
it doesn't bode well for any party, right, because you
have India, you know, the United States aligning a lot
(14:23):
more with India, right considering our history, especially because Mody
is such an ally with President Trump. But then on
the other end, you have China Beijing, both of which
US and China have been mimicking the same thing, saying
that they would call for a de escalation. But I mean,
since nineteen forty seven, there's been what been three wars
(14:43):
between the two, They've had constant escalation. I do find
it interesting that it's happening now at a time where
there's again these other other forces, because again, this has
always been an ongoing thing between India and Pakistan I
will say I can't imagine it going much further considering
that the day being today May seventh, India announces their
(15:06):
operation against Pakistan and allegedly loses Pakistan, saying they took
down five aircraft. Other outlets British officials were saying about
two could be three. So you lose that many aircraft
within twenty less than twenty four hours of announcing your
operation strikes. At the same time is constantly saying and
(15:28):
reiterating over and over again, hey, we're doing this in
retaliation of that April twenty second terror attack and nothing more,
versus saying that we kind we want to completely and
indefinitely deter and eliminate Pakistan or terrorists within Pakistan right
like that is significantly different than what we see, say
(15:50):
in Iran, in Gaza, or even between Ukraine and Russia.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
We'll finish up here in a second. With the change
in the well, I should say the Court's latest action
with regard to the transgender military issue. The first of
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I know that the court has now ruled in favor of
the Trump administration and Secretary Hag sets moves, But just telebody,
what was the trans ban is what people are calling
(17:21):
it in the military. You know, has it gone into
effect and what happens now?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, absolutely so it did go into effect.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
And this was one of the first big memos that
hag Set had rolled out about two months ago at
this point, and there was a lot of noise. People
defiant in the sense that basically what this is watering
it down is that if you are transgender fully medical, mental,
all of those evaluations transgender, you are not fit to serve.
(17:49):
You're not fit to serve in combat locations. You're not deployable.
That's the keyword, right, deployable. And it comes down to
very simply outside of any of this, no different than
whether or not you're medically compliant, is that you if
you're not medically compliance, case closes, it's over. And then
there's also that element of operationally, if you were to
be on a deployment and needed to be in contact with,
(18:11):
say your medical provider, have medications, have a psychiatrist, of
which most transgenders do, no matter what part of the
transition they are in, that already is a security threat
in and of itself. You can't just have an open
line or have open access or a full on supply
for however long you need. When it comes to certain medications,
(18:33):
all that type of stuff needs to be cleared for
whatever deployment you're going on. So this is no different
and very much in compliant on the medical side for
the military. Well before any of this was kind of
rolled back, and it was all rolled back during the
Biden administration in which they allowed for a transgender So
it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Going back to we're gonna cut the fat.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
If you're not deployable, then we're not You're not employable either,
because other than that, if you're not going on these
trips or these assignments or tasking orders, then you're sitting
at a desk instead or being given some sort of
other job to fulfill in the interim of the rest
of your unit going on missions. So this is kind
(19:18):
of this is good news. This is good news. It's
completely compatible. I mean, this is no different than you
want to run it back for a hot second. This
is no different than say during uh I mean actually
it's very different. But this the crux of it being
like the CIA, for example, the military did it, all
the agencies did it. You're undeployable if you didn't get
the COVID vaccine.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Now that's like was was Buck Wilde.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Literally, But if that's how they determine deployability, then okay,
like it's wrong if anyone, but like, okay, but this
is like purely because they thought it was like a
real you know, not a plandemic.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It was a real issue. Sure, but if you crack
at what.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I'm saying, maybe not maybe I get you. I get
I get what you're putting down. Yeah, thank you, I
believe it.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We gotta leave it there for today, but people can
go watch your latest reporting, Miss Gabrielle Kucia at One
America News.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
She us their PA A gone correspondent. Gryelle, thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Thanks appreciate you
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